[13:05] good morning everyone [19:49] Edubuntu meeting in around 10 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting [21:07] highvoltage: are you around? [21:33] vmlintu: I am indeed [21:36] great.. I just read the logs from the debian-edu meeting and realised that uds is coming soon [21:37] I started thinking if I should finally attend and try to actually get involved in something [21:38] that would be great [21:39] are there any plans for the next cycle yet? ideas? dreams? [21:40] they're being formed, there are some things I'd certainly like to see improve [21:40] ltsp live still needs some work [21:41] if I could even just get the race with network manager fixed that would already be a win [21:41] I've been just stuck with puavo development so I have no idea what is coming with natty [21:42] natty turned out to be quite good (I didn't really expect that, it was quite a bumpy ride with early alphas) [21:44] do you know yet who are attending uds? [21:46] not exactly. I expect to be there. stgraber too [21:46] highvoltage: race with the network manager? meaning? [21:46] there's also linuxtag in berlin during the same week [21:46] For 2 nic systems, you can set eth1 to "manual" in /etc/network/interfaces, then network-manager won't touch it [21:47] alkisg: if you start ltsp-live before network manager has settled down, then network manager resets the IP as set by LTSP live [21:47] highvoltage: on 1 nic systems or 2? [21:47] alkisg: either [21:47] highvoltage: need any help? I've looked into that [21:48] Either from /etc/network/interfaces, with manual, or in /etc/networkmanager/system-connections, define a connection you want [21:48] alkisg: I know what needs to be done, we can basically ask network manager what its status is. I just haven't had time to do it this scycle [21:48] *cycle [21:49] OK. Instead of asking, you can tell network manager to set a connection as you want it [21:49] And since it uses inotify, you can just drop a file there [21:49] And it'll instantly be used [21:49] For single nic systems I'd propose proxydhcp [21:51] alkisg: yeah, I remember we discussed that before, but I just haven't had time for that. I'd like to give the option to either proxydhcp, or start dhcpd on an alias [21:51] No need for aliases [21:51] Network manager supports multiple ips [21:52] multiple ips without aliases? how does that work? [21:52] The aliases along with ifconfig are the old framework [21:52] The new one that corresponds to `ip` can handle multiple IPs on each interface without aliases [21:53] Don't know the theory there, just the tools [21:53] ok, that's interesting. [21:53] do you have any links for examples? [21:53] Supported since linux 2.6 i think [21:53] Network manager has a GUI for it [21:53] Just add another IP [21:53] Then, ifconfig won't show that ip [21:53] But ip addr show will show it [21:53] (ifconfig doesn't speak the new framework) [21:54] is there some command line tool that supports it? [21:54] ip [21:55] It supports both adding and displaying IPs [21:55] I guess it's time to learn new things.. [21:56] E.g. in 2 days I'll do a demo in a lab with public IPs and without a dhcp server. My laptop will have 2 IPs there, one public one and an 192.168.0.1 one, where it will act as a dhcp server with dnsmasq. [21:56] highvoltage: so you can drop 2-3 different connections in /etc/networkmanager/system-connections [21:57] 1) auto eth0 - proxydhcp [21:57] 2) static eth0 192.168.0.1 - normal dhcp [21:57] 3) static eth0 based on the current subnet (queried with ipconfig -n) + second IP on 192.168.0.1 + dhcp there [21:58] And let the user select one of them with just 2 clicks on the network manager applet [22:01] (and it'll probably be easier if "auto eth0/auto eth1" is used first, and wait to see if there's a dhcp server around on each nic or not) [22:01] 'night all [22:35] oops, missed alkis [22:47] hi [22:48] i teach in gymnasium and i have 18 computers i try use oneconf but it don't work in ubuntu 10.10 if this work just in 11.04?