[00:01] Kmail seems much faster. Maybe that's related to Akonadi failing to start. === skaet is now known as skaet_afk [00:03] ScottK: did you get akonadi errors? [00:04] I did. [00:04] I filed a bug about it too. [00:04] Usual failed to start stuff, but it claimed another process was already running, so maybe it started twice. [00:09] we could probably do with more people who test kontact [00:15] Maybe I'll switch to Kontact when the new laptop comes. It's got a little bigger screen. [00:15] shadeslayer's is still bigger though and I'm completely comfortable with admitting that. === skaet_afk is now known as skaet === skaet is now known as skaet_ === skaet_ is now known as skaet_afk [08:19] ping Riddell [08:21] hi rbelem [08:21] how is life as a daddy? [08:21] hi valorie :-) [08:21] valorie, it is going fine :-) [08:21] I'm glad to hear that [08:21] valorie, he is groing so fast... [08:21] new babies are so fun, but also exhausting [08:22] exhausting [08:22] they do that [08:22] that's true, i've been sleeping much less since he born [08:23] you won't miss it later -- it is so worth it [08:23] I do remember how tired i was, though [08:23] but my wife is much more exhausted than me [08:23] yep [08:23] that's why you young people are the ones having the babies [08:23] lol [08:24] :-D [08:24] valorie: young?! [08:24] * Tm_T hides [08:24] I'm too old for babies [08:24] literally [08:24] he just wake up [08:24] holding them is great, then I hand them back to the parents [08:25] and it is 3:24 am here [08:25] :-D [08:25] yikes [08:25] I remember when I was young, although I don't remember much of it, anyway, a one day... [08:25] that's what my mon says === zarvox is now known as zarvox_ [08:26] rbelem: staying up all night is more fun than sleeping, every baby knows that === zarvox_ is now known as zarvox [08:26] hahahah :-D [08:27] i hope soon he enjoys a good night of sleep [08:27] right, and you too [08:27] now I get wakened by my old dog [08:28] hahaha [08:28] but at least he goes back to sleep after going out to pee [08:28] you have a good dog [08:29] yep, good old guy [08:29] 16 years old [08:29] wow [08:29] it's worth it to keep him happy while we can [08:30] :-D [08:30] makes it hard to leave for the UDS, the Amarok Sprint, and Desktop Summit, though [08:30] I hope it all works out [08:30] :-) [08:30] are you coming to UDS, rbelem? [08:31] i'm not sure [08:31] i did not receive the sponsorship confirmation [08:32] it just closed yesterday [08:32] they make everyone wait sooooo long! [08:32] drives me nuts [08:32] hahaha :-D [08:33] uds is a really nice event [08:33] I loved meeting everyone [08:33] what an excellent team to be part of [08:33] that's the best part, i think [08:33] right [08:35] it is nice make friends and some become good friends [08:38] exactly [08:39] I think Canonical is spending their money in good ways [08:40] me too [08:40] canonical is a great company [08:42] i hope canonical soon become one of the giants of the tecnology [08:42] :-) [08:45] * rbelem goes to bed [08:47] sweet dreams, rbelem [08:49] morning === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | beta 1 bugs http://goo.gl/23eui | Meeting Wednesday 30th 17:00UTC | Go go beta 1 testing! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [10:22] Go go beta 1 testing! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ === hunger_ is now known as hunger === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [13:28] Riddell, or somebody else, please could you look at the kaffeine and kubuntu-docs build failures? [13:28] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110329-natty.html [13:35] doko: it's on my todo for after beta [13:35] but maybe others here will look before === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:13] Riddell: I think we're looking good (except on powerpc, but that's not just us) for beta. The only true RC bug I've seen (the kdm restart on upgrade bug) is fixed. [14:21] ScottK: I'm inclined to agree although bug 745611 was nasty to come across [14:21] Launchpad bug 745611 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) "Fails to install on Kubuntu amd64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745611 [14:22] since it's an ugly error message during install if you tick the non-free box [14:22] That should be fixed with the latest ia32-libs upload I believe. [14:23] I see it's now "digiKam Software Collection". [14:24] Mighty fancy. [14:24] picking up the least liked part of KDE branding :) [14:26] I suspect it's related to their decision to embed kdegraphics code copies. [14:27] doko: I tried to build kaffeine with pbuilder and it builds just fine here [14:28] bambee: On amd64? [14:28] yes [14:29] its builds with debuild, pbuilder and via the tradiotional way (cmake & make) [14:31] bambee: thanks for checking :-/ [14:33] apparently the build is parallel... [14:34] You can pass -j options to pbuilder. [14:38] I just used one job with pbuilder [14:38] * bambee tries again [14:41] You might try it again with -j > 1. [14:44] schmidtm, i will be at Randa 2011 [14:44] ScottK, will you be there === manish_ is now known as manish [14:45] seiflotfy__: No. Not planning on it. [15:08] ScottK: even with parallel jobs it builds correctly for me [15:08] OK. We so much for that theory. Thanks for checking. [15:08] ScottK: oh btw, Nepomuk will be mandatory in the near future for KDE [15:09] shadeslayer: It is already for some functions. I just don't use them. [15:09] If KDE really wants to go for small devices Nepomuk needs some serious redesign for performance. [15:11] Nepomuk on devices? [15:12] I think my Milestone would break the World's Shortest Battery Live contest with it [15:13] No kidding. [15:14] Meeting's today? [15:15] yes < 2 hours time [15:16] Cool === skaet_afk is now known as skaet_ [16:33] 17:00 UTC is in 1.5 hours, right? [16:33] Ah, [16:33] Already answered. :) [16:33] * steveire gotta run [16:53] anyone else with broken flash on amd64? I think 32bit is working (at least on Ubuntu 11.04) but 64 bit is not on my Kubuntu (11.04) [16:53] rgreening: its known broken [16:54] i saw someone on facebook saying "uh oh, its gonna take me all night to fix broken 64bit flash on natty" [16:54] okies. well I guess I shouldnt have blasted youtube for crummy linux support/error detection :) [16:54] haha [16:54] steveire: it's in an hour, date -u (my mistake earlier, I'm used to living in GMT) [16:55] Riddell: having trouble with BST? [16:55] maco: off by one errors! [16:55] I'll be at the meeting (hopefully). doubly booked but should be able to multi-task :) [16:55] any ideas which package would give me GSTREAMER_INTERFACES_LIBRARY [16:56] * rgreening wonders how Riddel made out with usb-creator RPM land [16:56] ^ Riddell [16:56] * rgreening kant spel ne more [16:56] rgreening and maco: the latest ia32-libs upload (today) should have fixed flash. [16:57] \o/ [16:57] rgreening: is works except for syslinux, I think the version in suse it too old [16:57] * rgreening cant wait to get rid of the ia32libs with multiarch [16:57] ScottK: was that the reason rekonq didn't show videos ? [16:58] Riddell: yeah. likely. you probably need to use the older usb-creator [16:58] or remove the patch for the newer syslinux changes [16:58] meeting in 2? [16:58] heh .. people are going crazy over here [16:58] JontheEchidna: 1 hour [16:59] oh [16:59] oops, forgot to factor for the daylight savings change... [16:59] shadeslayer: No idea. I clicked on the link and no video played. I switched to an actual web browser and it worked. === seiflotfy__ is now known as seiflotfy [17:00] ScottK: chrome ships with it's own flashplugin iirc [17:00] I'll be in class in an hour, so I won't be able to make it. [17:00] shadeslayer: nope, chrome relies on the same flash plugin everyone else uses [17:01] JontheEchidna: don't think so ... [17:01] yup [17:01] last i checked they shipped their own flash [17:01] shadeslayer: At does. I tried videos before I installed flash on chromium and they didn't work. [17:01] google chrome uses built in, free chromium on Linux uses system flash [17:02] it's built disabled or removed in chromium AFAIK [17:02] oh ... [17:02] :) [17:02] it was whining at me for my flash being out of date last week [17:03] good I guess since it was a release that fixed security vulnerabilities [17:03] bah .. broken archive [17:05] meeting here, or #ubuntu-meeting? [17:07] valorie: in #ubuntu-meeting in an hour [17:08] although we could just have it now if we're all expecting it now [17:08] ScottK: were you able to connect to the network after upgrade? [17:08] Riddell: Yes. [17:09] damn, it is 17:00 UT now, isn't it? [17:09] I had to log into a VT and finish the upgrade by hand though. [17:09] I think we should stick with the advertised time. [17:09] valorie: 16:09:45 UTC now [17:10] oh, fail [17:10] alrighty [17:20] valorie: I made the same mistake :P [17:58] ** kubuntu meeting in 3 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting [18:01] ** kubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now [18:01] rgreening: poke [18:08] Riddell: It would be really good to have a pim person at UDS ... [18:26] ScottK: The nepomuk issue - It is much faster with the latest soprano etc. [18:26] I keep hearing that. We'll see. [18:27] ahem, votes... [18:27] The biggest problem is it bogs down the system by demanding lots of resources all at once. [18:32] hehe [18:32] steveire_: there's a new virtuoso as well [18:32] have I to do a feature freeze exception request for qzeitgeist ? (I mean, we want get it into archives.. right ?) [18:34] ScottK: Yeah, there was some broken idle detection, but that seems to work now. [18:34] We'll test it out and see. :) [18:34] Good to hear. [18:35] bambee: You do. [18:35] (if you want it in) [18:36] ScottK: it's required by phonon 4.5.0... I suppose we want phonon it in... so... [18:36] :) [18:36] I don't know if we've decided that. [18:36] that's why I am asking :) [19:05] Riddell: I read the backlog and I am +1 for steveire becoming a member [19:07] hm [19:07] didn't we write down rules for voting quorum and stuff [19:11] I think Riddell will sum up and take it to the list [19:11] * tazz needs the meeting logs. [19:12] We did [19:12] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickCouncil [19:17] tazz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/30/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t17:58 [19:19] ah ok /me was looking in the wrong place https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs [19:26] apachelogger: ping [19:27] Riddell_: erm, any news of those postcards? [19:30] ScottK: not very precise is it now ^^ [19:30] nigelb: pong [19:30] apachelogger: are you working on any app currently? [19:30] define app [19:30] apachelogger: I'm looking for someone for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/LightningTalks [19:31] segfult [19:31] oh noes [19:31] 5 to 6 minutes about an app you're working on. [19:31] * apachelogger is library developer :P [19:31] show off one of the libraries then ;) [19:31] I have a talk about it already :P [19:32] oh, ok. [19:32] nigelb: shadeslayer that lazy frog did not sign up for a talk.... [19:32] I poked him already :P [19:32] frong? [19:32] s/frong/frog [19:32] google frog [19:32] haha [19:32] and where is me bot [19:33] apachelogger: any one else you could possibly suggest with app projects? [19:33] nigelb: sure, muesli [19:34] muesli: ping :) [19:43] apachelogger: That's all we've got. [19:43] apachelogger: Please fill out https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuCouncil and make something better. [19:44] we also don't have voting rules for kubuntu-dev membership [19:45] That we have. [19:46] debfx: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers "majority of those present and at least 3". [19:48] ScottK: ah right, but that doesn't cover voting on the mailing list [19:48] True. [19:57] * nigelb hugs apachelogger [19:57] It worked out :) === skaet_ is now known as skaet_otp [20:44] Riddell Riddell_ ping === sheytan__ is now known as sheytan [20:44] * sheytan is in need of natty logo [20:44] apachelogger ^^ can you help? :D [20:45] what is a natty logo? [20:46] apachelogger the narwhal one :D [20:46] * apachelogger still does not compute [20:46] we haz release logos o.O? [20:47] apachelogger ubuntu makes always images for branding [20:47] in this case a narwhal [20:47] i need a source of that [20:47] svg :D [20:49] *shrug* [20:49] sheytan: drop a mail to the canonical design team I gues [20:50] it was always on the wiki, but i can't find it ;/ [20:51] i hate wikis, really [20:52] * yofel just hates our version of moinmoin [20:52] * apachelogger hates pyth0rn [20:53] * yofel likes python, for scripts < 1000 lines [20:54] * yofel will kill the person that decides to invent another VCS written in pyth0rn... [20:56] hahah [21:01] uh, that sounds like fun? [21:01] where can I get it? === skaet_otp is now known as skaet [21:38] shadeslayer: your diaspora is weird. you are the only one with a @joindiaspora for your name, everyone else just has their name:P [21:38] lolwot [21:38] jussi: i'm special [21:39] speshial? [21:39] yes [21:39] :P [21:39] speshial is a super special form of special, so you *know* it's super special :) [21:45] jussi: check now [21:46] bug fix0red [21:46] awww, not speshial anymore [21:46] jussi: thanks for reporting and making my profile better [21:46] :D [21:46] :P [21:46] I once had a profile === skaet is now known as skaet_afk === barraponto_ is now known as barraponto === skaet_afk is now known as skaet