[00:01] <ScottK> Kmail seems much faster.  Maybe that's related to Akonadi failing to start.
[00:03] <Riddell> ScottK: did you get akonadi errors?
[00:04] <ScottK> I did.
[00:04] <ScottK> I filed a bug about it too.
[00:04] <ScottK> Usual failed to start stuff, but it claimed another process was already running, so maybe it started twice.
[00:09] <Riddell> we could probably do with more people who test kontact
[00:15] <ScottK> Maybe I'll switch to Kontact when the new laptop comes.  It's got a little bigger screen.
[00:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer's is still bigger though and I'm completely comfortable with admitting that.
[08:19] <rbelem> ping Riddell 
[08:21] <valorie> hi rbelem
[08:21] <valorie> how is life as a daddy?
[08:21] <rbelem> hi valorie :-)
[08:21] <rbelem> valorie, it is going fine :-)
[08:21] <valorie> I'm glad to hear that
[08:21] <rbelem> valorie, he is groing so fast...
[08:21] <valorie> new babies are so fun, but also exhausting
[08:22] <valorie> exhausting
[08:22] <valorie> they do that
[08:22] <rbelem> that's true, i've been sleeping much less since he born
[08:23] <valorie> you won't miss it later -- it is so worth it
[08:23] <valorie> I do remember how tired i was, though
[08:23] <rbelem> but my wife is much more exhausted than me
[08:23] <valorie> yep
[08:23] <valorie> that's why you young people are the ones having the babies
[08:23] <valorie> lol
[08:24] <rbelem> :-D
[08:24] <Tm_T> valorie: young?!
[08:24]  * Tm_T hides
[08:24] <valorie> I'm too old for babies
[08:24] <valorie> literally
[08:24] <rbelem> he just wake up
[08:24] <valorie> holding them is great, then I hand them back to the parents
[08:25] <rbelem> and it is 3:24 am here
[08:25] <rbelem> :-D
[08:25] <valorie> yikes
[08:25] <Tm_T> I remember when I was young, although I don't remember much of it, anyway, a one day...
[08:25] <rbelem> that's what my mon says
[08:26] <Tm_T> rbelem: staying up all night is more fun than sleeping, every baby knows that
[08:26] <rbelem> hahahah :-D
[08:27] <rbelem> i hope soon he enjoys a good night of sleep
[08:27] <valorie> right, and you too
[08:27] <valorie> now I get wakened by my old dog
[08:28] <rbelem> hahaha
[08:28] <valorie> but at least he goes back to sleep after going out to pee
[08:28] <rbelem> you have a good dog
[08:29] <valorie> yep, good old guy
[08:29] <valorie> 16 years old
[08:29] <rbelem> wow
[08:29] <valorie> it's worth it to keep him happy while we can
[08:30] <rbelem> :-D
[08:30] <valorie> makes it hard to leave for the UDS, the Amarok Sprint, and Desktop Summit, though
[08:30] <valorie> I hope it all works out
[08:30] <valorie> :-)
[08:30] <valorie> are you coming to UDS, rbelem?
[08:31] <rbelem> i'm not sure
[08:31] <rbelem> i did not receive the sponsorship confirmation
[08:32] <valorie> it just closed yesterday
[08:32] <valorie> they make everyone wait sooooo long!
[08:32] <valorie> drives me nuts
[08:32] <rbelem> hahaha :-D
[08:33] <rbelem> uds is a really nice event
[08:33] <valorie> I loved meeting everyone
[08:33] <valorie> what an excellent team to be part of
[08:33] <rbelem> that's the best part, i think
[08:33] <valorie> right
[08:35] <rbelem> it is nice make friends and some become good friends
[08:38] <valorie> exactly
[08:39] <valorie> I think Canonical is spending their money in good ways
[08:40] <rbelem> me too
[08:40] <rbelem> canonical is a great company
[08:42] <rbelem> i hope canonical soon become one of the giants of the tecnology
[08:42] <rbelem> :-)
[08:45]  * rbelem goes to bed
[08:47] <valorie> sweet dreams, rbelem
[08:49] <bambee> morning
[10:22] <Riddell> Go go beta 1 testing! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[13:28] <doko> Riddell, or somebody else, please could you look at the kaffeine and kubuntu-docs build failures?
[13:28] <doko> http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110329-natty.html
[13:35] <Riddell> doko: it's on my todo for after beta
[13:35] <Riddell> but maybe others here will look before
[14:13] <ScottK> Riddell: I think we're looking good (except on powerpc, but that's not just us) for beta.  The only true RC bug I've seen (the kdm restart on upgrade bug) is fixed.
[14:21] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm inclined to agree although bug 745611 was nasty to come across
[14:22] <Riddell> since it's an ugly error message during install if you tick the non-free box
[14:22] <ScottK> That should be fixed with the latest ia32-libs upload I believe.
[14:23] <ScottK> I see it's now "digiKam Software Collection".
[14:24] <ScottK> Mighty fancy.
[14:24] <Riddell> picking up the least liked part of KDE branding :)
[14:26] <ScottK> I suspect it's related to their decision to embed kdegraphics code copies.
[14:27] <bambee> doko: I tried to build kaffeine with pbuilder and it builds just fine here
[14:28] <ScottK> bambee: On amd64?
[14:28] <bambee> yes
[14:29] <bambee> its builds with debuild, pbuilder and via the tradiotional way (cmake & make)
[14:31] <doko> bambee: thanks for checking :-/
[14:33] <bambee> apparently the build is parallel...
[14:34] <ScottK> You can pass -j options to pbuilder.
[14:38] <bambee> I just used one job with pbuilder
[14:38]  * bambee tries again
[14:41] <ScottK> You might try it again with -j > 1.
[14:44] <seiflotfy__> schmidtm, i will be at Randa 2011
[14:44] <seiflotfy__> ScottK, will you be there
[14:45] <ScottK> seiflotfy__: No.  Not planning on it.
[15:08] <bambee> ScottK: even with parallel jobs it builds correctly for me
[15:08] <ScottK> OK.  We so much for that theory.  Thanks for checking.
[15:08] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh btw, Nepomuk will be mandatory in the near future for KDE
[15:09] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It is already for some functions.  I just don't use them.
[15:09] <ScottK> If KDE really wants to go for small devices Nepomuk needs some serious redesign for performance.
[15:11] <Quintasan> Nepomuk on devices?
[15:12] <Quintasan> I think my Milestone would break the World's Shortest Battery Live contest with it
[15:13] <ScottK> No kidding.
[15:14] <Quintasan> Meeting's today?
[15:15] <Riddell> yes < 2 hours time
[15:16] <Quintasan> Cool
[16:33] <steveire> 17:00 UTC is in 1.5 hours, right?
[16:33] <steveire> Ah, 
[16:33] <steveire> Already answered. :)
[16:33]  * steveire gotta run
[16:53] <rgreening> anyone else with broken flash on amd64? I think 32bit is working (at least on Ubuntu 11.04) but 64 bit is not on my Kubuntu (11.04)
[16:53] <maco> rgreening: its known broken
[16:54] <maco> i saw someone on facebook saying "uh oh, its gonna take me all night to fix broken 64bit flash on natty"
[16:54] <rgreening> okies. well I guess I shouldnt have blasted youtube for crummy linux support/error detection :)
[16:54] <rgreening> haha
[16:54] <Riddell> steveire: it's in an hour, date -u (my mistake earlier, I'm used to living in GMT)
[16:55] <maco> Riddell: having trouble with BST?
[16:55] <Riddell> maco: off by one errors!
[16:55] <rgreening> I'll be at the meeting (hopefully). doubly booked but should be able to multi-task :)
[16:55] <shadeslayer> any ideas which package would give me GSTREAMER_INTERFACES_LIBRARY
[16:56]  * rgreening wonders how Riddel made out with usb-creator RPM land
[16:56] <rgreening> ^ Riddell
[16:56]  * rgreening kant spel ne more
[16:56] <ScottK> rgreening and maco: the latest ia32-libs upload (today) should have fixed flash.
[16:57] <rgreening> \o/
[16:57] <Riddell> rgreening: is works except for syslinux, I think the version in suse it too old
[16:57]  * rgreening cant wait to get rid of the ia32libs with multiarch
[16:57] <shadeslayer> ScottK: was that the reason rekonq didn't show videos ?
[16:58] <rgreening> Riddell: yeah. likely. you probably need to use the older usb-creator
[16:58] <rgreening> or remove the patch for the newer syslinux changes
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> meeting in 2?
[16:58] <shadeslayer> heh .. people are going crazy over here
[16:58] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: 1 hour
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> oh
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> oops, forgot to factor for the daylight savings change...
[16:59] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No idea.  I clicked on the link and no video played.  I switched to an actual web browser and it worked.
[17:00] <shadeslayer> ScottK: chrome ships with it's own flashplugin iirc
[17:00] <JontheEchidna> I'll be in class in an hour, so I won't be able to make it.
[17:00] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: nope, chrome relies on the same flash plugin everyone else uses
[17:01] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: don't think so ...
[17:01] <JontheEchidna> yup
[17:01] <shadeslayer> last i checked they shipped their own flash
[17:01] <ScottK> shadeslayer: At does.  I tried videos before I installed flash on chromium and they didn't work.
[17:01] <rgreening> google chrome uses built in, free chromium on Linux uses system flash
[17:02] <rgreening> it's built disabled or removed in chromium AFAIK
[17:02] <shadeslayer> oh ... 
[17:02] <rgreening> :)
[17:02] <JontheEchidna> it was whining at me for my flash being out of date last week
[17:03] <JontheEchidna> good I guess since it was a release that fixed security vulnerabilities
[17:03] <shadeslayer> bah .. broken archive
[17:05] <valorie> meeting here, or #ubuntu-meeting?
[17:07] <Riddell> valorie: in #ubuntu-meeting in an hour
[17:08] <Riddell> although we could just have it now if we're all expecting it now
[17:08] <Riddell> ScottK: were you able to connect to the network after upgrade?
[17:08] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.
[17:09] <valorie> damn, it is 17:00 UT now, isn't it?
[17:09] <ScottK> I had to log into a VT and finish the upgrade by hand though.
[17:09] <ScottK> I think we should stick with the advertised time.
[17:09] <Riddell> valorie: 16:09:45 UTC now
[17:10] <valorie> oh, fail
[17:10] <valorie> alrighty
[17:20] <JontheEchidna> valorie: I made the same mistake :P
[17:58] <Riddell> ** kubuntu meeting in 3 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[18:01] <Riddell> ** kubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now
[18:01] <Riddell> rgreening: poke
[18:08] <ScottK> Riddell: It would be really good to have a pim person at UDS ...
[18:26] <steveire_> ScottK: The nepomuk issue - It is much faster with the latest soprano etc.
[18:26] <ScottK> I keep hearing that.  We'll see.
[18:27] <Riddell> ahem, votes...
[18:27] <ScottK> The biggest problem is it bogs down the system by demanding lots of resources all at once.
[18:32] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:32] <shadeslayer> steveire_: there's a new virtuoso as well
[18:32] <bambee> have I to do a feature freeze exception request for qzeitgeist ? (I mean, we want get it into archives.. right ?) 
[18:34] <steveire_> ScottK: Yeah, there was some broken idle detection, but that seems to work now.
[18:34] <steveire_> We'll test it out and see. :)
[18:34] <ScottK> Good to hear.
[18:35] <ScottK> bambee: You do.
[18:35] <ScottK> (if you want it in)
[18:36] <bambee> ScottK: it's required by phonon 4.5.0... I suppose we want phonon it in... so...
[18:36] <bambee> :)
[18:36] <ScottK> I don't know if we've decided that.
[18:36] <bambee> that's why I am asking :)
[19:05] <neversfelde> Riddell: I read the backlog and I am +1 for steveire becoming a member
[19:07] <apachelogger> hm
[19:07] <apachelogger> didn't we write down rules for voting quorum and stuff
[19:11] <valorie> I think Riddell will sum up and take it to the list
[19:11]  * tazz needs the meeting logs.
[19:12] <ScottK> We did
[19:12] <ScottK> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickCouncil
[19:17] <yofel> tazz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/30/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t17:58
[19:19] <tazz> ah ok /me was looking in the wrong place https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs
[19:26] <nigelb> apachelogger: ping
[19:27] <nigelb> Riddell_: erm, any news of those postcards?
[19:30] <apachelogger> ScottK: not very precise is it now ^^
[19:30] <apachelogger> nigelb: pong
[19:30] <nigelb> apachelogger: are you working on any app currently?
[19:30] <apachelogger> define app
[19:30] <nigelb> apachelogger: I'm looking for someone for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/LightningTalks
[19:31] <apachelogger> segfult
[19:31] <apachelogger> oh noes
[19:31] <nigelb> 5 to 6 minutes about an app you're working on.
[19:31]  * apachelogger is library developer :P
[19:31] <nigelb> show off one of the libraries then ;)
[19:31] <apachelogger> I have a talk about it already :P
[19:32] <nigelb> oh, ok.
[19:32] <apachelogger> nigelb: shadeslayer that lazy frog did not sign up for a talk....
[19:32] <nigelb> I poked him already :P
[19:32] <shadeslayer> frong?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> s/frong/frog
[19:32] <apachelogger> google frog
[19:32] <nigelb> haha
[19:32] <apachelogger> and where is me bot
[19:33] <nigelb> apachelogger: any one else you could possibly suggest with app projects?
[19:33] <apachelogger> nigelb: sure, muesli
[19:34] <nigelb> muesli: ping :)
[19:43] <ScottK> apachelogger: That's all we've got.
[19:43] <ScottK> apachelogger: Please fill out https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuCouncil and make something better.
[19:44] <debfx> we also don't have voting rules for kubuntu-dev membership
[19:45] <ScottK> That we have.
[19:46] <ScottK> debfx: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers "majority of those present and at least 3".
[19:48] <debfx> ScottK: ah right, but that doesn't cover voting on the mailing list
[19:48] <ScottK> True.
[19:57]  * nigelb hugs apachelogger 
[19:57] <nigelb> It worked out :)
[20:44] <sheytan__> Riddell Riddell_ ping
[20:44]  * sheytan is in need of natty logo
[20:44] <sheytan> apachelogger ^^ can you help?  :D
[20:45] <apachelogger> what is a natty logo?
[20:46] <sheytan> apachelogger the narwhal one :D
[20:46]  * apachelogger still does not compute
[20:46] <yofel> we haz release logos o.O?
[20:47] <sheytan> apachelogger ubuntu makes always images for branding
[20:47] <sheytan> in this case a narwhal
[20:47] <sheytan> i need a source of that
[20:47] <sheytan> svg :D
[20:49] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[20:49] <apachelogger> sheytan: drop a mail to the canonical design team I gues
[20:50] <sheytan> it was  always on the wiki, but i can't find it ;/
[20:51] <sheytan> i hate wikis, really
[20:52]  * yofel just hates our version of moinmoin
[20:52]  * apachelogger hates pyth0rn
[20:53]  * yofel likes python, for scripts < 1000 lines
[20:54]  * yofel will kill the person that decides to invent another VCS written in pyth0rn...
[20:56] <shadeslayer> hahah 
[21:01] <apachelogger> uh, that sounds like fun?
[21:01] <apachelogger> where can I get it?
[21:38] <jussi> shadeslayer: your diaspora is weird. you are the only one with a @joindiaspora for your name, everyone else just has their name:P
[21:38] <shadeslayer> lolwot
[21:38] <shadeslayer> jussi: i'm special
[21:39] <jussi> speshial?
[21:39] <shadeslayer> yes
[21:39] <jussi> :P
[21:39] <tsimpson> speshial is a super special form of special, so you *know* it's super special :)
[21:45] <shadeslayer> jussi: check now
[21:46] <shadeslayer> bug fix0red
[21:46] <jussi> awww, not speshial anymore
[21:46] <shadeslayer> jussi: thanks for reporting and making my profile better
[21:46] <jussi> :D
[21:46] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:46] <apachelogger> I once had a profile