[00:58] <bonny> how do i update my skype
[00:59] <bonny> ??????????????????????????
[01:00] <MrChrisDruif> bonny: skype ppa?
[01:01] <bonny> the new one beta
[01:01] <semitones> how can i get envolved in the lubuntu project?
[01:02] <MrChrisDruif> Hai semitones :)
[01:03] <MrChrisDruif> First step is joining the team channel #lubuntu-offtopic
[01:03] <bonny> skype 2.1 beta 2
[01:03] <semitones> lol wait how serious are you being?
[01:04] <Unit193> semitones: It answers your question on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[01:07] <bonny> omg help me
[01:08] <MrChrisDruif> bonny: You've installed skype? From what source?
[01:08] <bonny> from the website
[01:09] <bonny> yes i have skype installed
[01:09] <semitones> and there's a new version now?
[01:09] <bonny> idk
[01:09] <bonny> im asking
[01:09] <bonny> is there
[01:09] <semitones> the linux version hasn't been updated in ages
[01:09] <semitones> :(
[01:09] <bonny> uhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:09] <bonny> :(
[01:09] <semitones> yeah
[01:09] <bonny> ({}
[01:09] <semitones> skype is not nice
[01:09] <bonny> darn
[01:09] <bonny> yeah it is
[01:10] <bonny> its the best
[01:10] <semitones> not to linux users
[01:10] <semitones> it is mean
[01:10] <bonny> oh
[01:10] <bonny> ?
[01:11] <bonny> how do i install puppy on the computer its so complicated can i install it one by one
[01:11] <bonny> srry can i install it but still keeping lubunu
[01:11] <bonny> lubuntu*
[01:12] <bonny> I accidentally created a new panel how do i delete it
[01:12] <bonny> nvm i found it
[01:14] <Unit193> semitones: Is that what you were looking for? also: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <uofm49426> anyone help me with a setup
[04:23] <uofm49426> dual boat setup with windows and lubuntu
[04:23] <Unit193> What do you need?
[04:24] <uofm49426> i use window for school after school it can go
[04:24] <uofm49426> but
[04:24] <uofm49426> anyways
[04:25] <uofm49426> i want to install linux on a sdhc windows cant even see it so it needs the harddrive
[04:26] <uofm49426> its only a 40 hd running at 4200 rpm so it can have it
[04:27] <uofm49426> i cant boot from sdhc but can grub boat it
[04:28] <uofm49426> if its wrote to the harddrive mdr
[04:29] <Unit193> That would mean if you didn't have the card in the computer, you couldn't boot windows
[04:30] <uofm49426> other question can ubuntu win install install the space from seperate hd
[04:30] <uofm49426> i would just keep it in
[04:31] <Unit193> I don't understand the second question
[04:31] <uofm49426> hd is a 1.8 ide hard not cheap to get bigger the 60
[04:32] <Unit193> You can dual-boot with 2 HDDs (I do this)
[04:32] <uofm49426> the program that install ubuntu in a ntfs partion
[04:33] <uofm49426> i want to get a sdhc 16 gb to install linux on
[04:34] <uofm49426> but it will not boat as a default drive its a thinkpad x41
[04:35]  * Unit193 has never used wubi
[04:35] <Unit193> Maybe someone else can help (just wait for them)
[04:36] <uofm49426> if grub is install to the harddrive will it boat a sdhc
[04:36] <uofm49426> if grub is install to the harddrive will it boot a sdhc
[04:37] <Unit193> I don't know, but I would guess it might
[04:39] <uofm49426> see music and videos and stuff i can keep on window for space all things that take up a lot of space and use it from lubuntu so i dont need alot of space for linux
[04:44] <Unit193> During bootup, can you open the boot menu and see the SD card in the menu? if so it might be better not to install grub
[04:51] <bioterror> sd cards aint that different from USB sticks
[04:52] <bioterror> when I made my lubuntu pendrive, I booted lubuntu cd, inserted usb stick, checked that it gets mouted and started installation
[04:52] <bioterror> Unit193, remember to use ext2 as a filesystem then
[04:54] <uofm49426> on the sd read is not
[04:55] <uofm49426> Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 13
[04:55] <uofm49426> that is the device name
[04:56] <uofm49426> laptop is a thinkpad x41
[04:56] <uofm49426> the install does see it
[04:58] <uofm49426> let me try making the card boot able because in its state it not active its just used as space
[05:02] <uofm49426> i really dont want to have usbs device running a os
[07:53] <jubei-za>  When i try to boot up lubuntu with my plasma tv set to RGB mode to use it as secondary monitor, for some strange reason all the fonts are TINY, ive tried to change the font sizes but not luck, ive tried to use this link(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636446) but there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ -im using lxde so not even sure if xorg.conf is used and not sure if there is an equivalent .conf for lxde - could someone point me in
[07:53] <jubei-za> the right direction?
[07:55] <Unit193> jubei-za: You need to run "sudo X -configure"
[07:55] <Unit193> Then move the output file into /etc/X11
[07:55] <jubei-za> will that create an xorg.conf i can work with?
[07:56] <Unit193> Yeah
[07:56] <jubei-za> ok lemme try it out, tx
[07:56] <Unit193> You'll need to stop lxdm
[07:56] <jubei-za> arr, just found that out
[07:56] <jubei-za> so i need to go into cmd line only mode?
[07:57] <jubei-za> hangon isnt lxdm the login manager?
[07:57] <Unit193> Just change to VT1
[07:57] <jubei-za> please excuse me only been running on linux for a week, what is VT1 ?
[07:58] <bioterror> virtual terminal 1?
[07:58] <bioterror> I think Unit193 means TTY1 ;)
[07:58] <bioterror> ctrl+alt+f1
[07:58] <Unit193> Yeah, it's 3am and I'm not thinking all that great
[07:58] <bioterror> I forgive you ;))
[07:59] <bioterror> jubei-za, if your plasma-tv is just "hd-ready", I suggest to use 800x600 resolution ;)
[08:00] <jubei-za> its a really old plasma tv, i know its not HD, not sure if its hd-ready, had it working on windows at 1024x768 .. ?
[08:01] <bioterror> linux has more worse fonts than windows
[08:01] <jubei-za> ok that virtual terminal is scary .. is there an easier way to get back into the GUI than typing out "lxdm"
[08:01] <bioterror> that's for sure
[08:01] <jubei-za> ok i'll take your word for it :)
[08:01] <bioterror> ctrl+alt+f7 = X
[08:01] <jubei-za> aaah nice
[08:03] <jubei-za> ok i ran lxdm in ctrl-alt-f1 ("virtual terminal 1" ??) so i dont think its gonna work there, so i tried ctrl+alt+f6 and get the same error
[08:04] <bioterror> sudo service lxdm restart
[08:04] <jubei-za> restart: unknown instance
[08:05] <bioterror> w000t
[08:05] <bioterror> which version of lubuntu are you running?
[08:05] <jubei-za> im frigging confused, i botched the install pretty bad as well, lubuntu over kubuntu over ubuntu(all 10.10)
[08:05] <bioterror> hmmmm
[08:06] <Unit193> !x
[08:06] <ubot5> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[08:06] <bioterror> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[08:08] <Unit193> I think X might be restartin
[08:13] <jubei> ok that didnt go so well
[08:13] <bioterror> how so
[08:13] <jubei> tried that thing in the !x
=== jubei is now known as Guest93603
[08:13] <Guest93603> the restart command
[08:13] <Guest93603> couldnt get back into the gui
[08:14] <Guest93603> cant even remember half the stuff it spewed
[08:14] <Guest93603> had to do a "hard restart" so lost the logs on our convo
=== Guest93603 is now known as jubei-za
[08:15] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/snap.png ;)
[08:16] <bioterror> that's awesome tool
[08:17] <jubei-za> you reckon i should try out arch linux or the snapshot tool? ;)
[08:20] <jubei-za> ok so i went into the tty1 (is this called the virtual console 1?) and i did that sudo X -configure and same error
[08:20] <jubei-za> i lost the logs whats the restart command agan?
[08:20] <jubei-za> nvm
[08:20] <jubei-za> !x
[08:20] <ubot5> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[08:21] <Unit193> You need to stop it, run the command, then start X
[08:22] <jubei-za> i need to stop X?
[08:22] <Unit193> You can't reconfigure X if it's running
[08:23] <jubei-za> side question: is there a way to search the man pages ?
[08:23] <Unit193> I think you can search the online pages...
[08:23] <jubei-za> ok figured that one out, Konsole lets me search it with ctrl+f
[08:23] <jubei-za> my bad
[08:24] <jubei-za> im pretty tired myself
[08:24] <jubei-za> its 9am here in south africa and i been up all night tryna make the tv work
[08:25] <Unit193> I have not searched them in lubuntu
[08:35] <jubei-za> ok so i do the restart script in !x and i get "invalid key MIT_MAGIC_COOKIE1" printed over and over, and then i cant do anything from the other tty'd
[08:35] <jubei-za> tty's*
[08:36] <jubei-za> so i have to hold down the power button to shutdown this laptop
[08:36] <jubei-za> shutdown -h now doesnt work
[08:36] <jubei-za> i dont even get a console
[08:36] <jubei-za> in the other tty things
[08:36] <jubei-za> whats the command to stop the X server?
[08:37] <Unit193> sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm stop ?
[08:38] <bioterror> that's the one
[08:38] <bioterror> jubei-za, your computer sounds weir :D
[08:38] <bioterror> weird
[08:38] <Unit193> Just about to ask where you went ;)
[08:38] <bioterror> I was talking there with two guys
[08:38] <bioterror> they started with fukushima and then we went from thorium power plant in china to volvo cars, and saab cars to politics :D
[08:39] <jubei-za> ok so im gonna go into one of the tty's and and stop the X server? using "sudo etc/init.d/lxdm stop"
[08:39] <jubei-za> and then sudo X -configre
[08:39] <jubei-za> ?
[08:39] <bioterror> yes
[08:40] <jubei-za> ok brb, might have to restart again :)
[08:40] <bioterror> jubei-za, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ there's a guide for creating Xorg.conf
[08:40] <bioterror> about screen resolution
[08:41] <jubei-za> ok tx i'll read up on that
[08:41] <jubei-za> i ran that etc/init.d/lxdm stop
[08:41] <jubei-za> says i should use service lxdm stop
[08:41] <jubei-za> or stop lxdm
[08:42] <jubei-za> but both of those claim no lxdm service runnig
[08:42] <Unit193> ls /etc/init.d |grep dm <--- see what that gives you
[08:43] <jubei-za> dmesg
[08:43] <jubei-za> kdm
[08:43] <jubei-za> lxdm
[08:43] <bioterror> :o
[08:43] <bioterror> kdm
[08:43] <bioterror> is that what you use for logging in?
[08:45] <jubei-za> im using the kdm login manager, tried to change etc/X11/default-display-manager to point to the lxdm, but i couldnt find the binary!
[08:45] <jubei-za> maybe u can help?
[08:45] <jubei-za> one of my many side missions in trying to get this TV to work
[08:45] <Unit193> bioterror: Would it maybe work better to reinstall?
[08:46] <bioterror> njaeh
[08:46] <jubei-za> im pretty sure this is my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636446
[08:46] <bioterror> sudo service stop kdm
[08:46] <bioterror> sudo apt-get remove kde\*
[08:46] <bioterror> sorry
[08:46] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge kde\*
[08:46] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge gnome\*
[08:46] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends
[08:47] <jubei-za> if ive already done apt-get install lubuntu-desktop should i do it again? will it overwrite the original package?
[08:48] <bioterror> it's just a meta package, it will fetch what ever is needed
[08:48] <bioterror> and I can guarantee that it will get removed when you remove all gnome packages
[08:50] <jubei-za> hmm ok, im gonna call it a night, thanks for the help - so nice to speak with someone, i'll probably be back to bug u guys
[08:51] <jubei-za> bye
[08:51] <Unit193> Bye!
[08:51] <bioterror> :)
[08:53] <Unit193> bioterror: Just got the same question in #xubuntu...
[08:53] <bioterror> :-)
[08:54] <bioterror> busy night you have
[08:54] <bioterror> or morning to be honest
[08:54]  * Unit193 needs sleep
[08:54] <bioterror> I slept like 4,5 hours last night
[08:54] <bioterror> not much
[08:56] <Unit193> Other people are helping, I'm now sleeping!
[11:34] <timbba> hello, I installed Lubuntu Natty using 64bit mini.iso.. one problem, tray icons are missing from the panel. Is this known problem and how to resolve it?
[11:48] <timbba> so nobody knows?
[11:52] <NRWlion> hey guys. who can suggest a good working instant messenger? pidgin is not my favorite
[11:54] <Timo_> NRWlion: I think there is this ubuntu preferred one
[11:54] <Timo_> *forgot the name* :P
[11:55] <Timo_> Empathy IM
[11:56] <NRWlion> Timo_, thanks for the hint, ill go check it
[11:57] <Timo_> np, I don't use it, so I'm not sure how it works etc.. but I think it's a bit like pidgin, but with more voice/webcam support and such
[11:57] <Timo_> but you should checkit out yourself, as I personally use Pidgin
[11:58] <NRWlion> i dont like pidgin at all :(
[12:25] <NRWlion> hey kelly
[14:44] <kosaidpo|> hello guys
[14:44] <kosaidpo|> anyone know any light player to dl podcats ?? THanks
[14:51] <MrChrisDruif> Downloading with a torrent?
[14:51] <kosaidpo|> MrChrisDruif: now i use podracer but i want sumthin more good
[14:52] <MrChrisDruif> I don't dl podcasts, so I would know honestly :P
[14:53] <kosaidpo|> : ] okies
[15:32] <bioterror> weird
[15:32] <bioterror> wife's laptop complains about gnome when starting X
[18:23] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! recently my Lubuntu 10.04 has had Xorg misbehaving so much that it is using over 90% of the CPU; has anyone had any previous experience with the same issue? how to solve it?
[18:24] <bioterror> nope :(