[16:09] <charlie-tca> Do we have anyone that can run a couple of tests? We need to test the screen-reader installs for t
[16:10] <charlie-tca> beta1, and since I wrote the tests, it would be better to have someone else run them too
[16:13] <AlanBell> hi charlie-tca
[16:13] <charlie-tca> Hello, AlanBell 
[16:14] <AlanBell> yes, I can run some tests, and I can make a slot in our global jam for that too
[16:14] <charlie-tca> today?
[16:14] <AlanBell> I can test something today (if it can be done in a VM)
[16:14] <charlie-tca> two tests today are needed
[16:14] <AlanBell> the jam is on Saturday
[16:14] <AlanBell> ok, what tests?
[16:14] <charlie-tca> As long as you get sound, to test orca installations
[16:15] <AlanBell> yeah, I get sound
[16:15] <AlanBell> oh, I don't get unity until installing the virtualbox guest additions, but that shouldn't matter for the installer I think
[16:15] <charlie-tca> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopAccessibility
[16:15] <charlie-tca> Can you do 32 and 64 bit?
[16:16] <charlie-tca> or just one?
[16:16] <AlanBell> yeah I can do both
[16:16] <charlie-tca> great!
[16:17] <charlie-tca> I can run them on hardware to verify anything you question, okay?
[16:17] <AlanBell> what build do you want me to test?
[16:17] <AlanBell> daily-live?
[16:18] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20110329.1/
[16:18] <charlie-tca> not mac
[16:19] <charlie-tca> I replaced my keyboard when my trackball wore out, got a qtronics ione 35 with trackball built in
[16:22] <AlanBell> zsyncing both of those
[16:22] <charlie-tca> Awesome! Thanks very much
[21:10] <AlanBell> doing the 64 bit install now
[21:11] <AlanBell> it has booted into classic gnome
[21:12] <AlanBell> problem between step 6 and step 7
[21:13] <AlanBell> alt+f1 takes you to the menu but that isn't where the installer is, the icon for that is on the desktop
[21:13] <AlanBell> oh, might work in Unity, don't know
[21:15] <AlanBell> when scrolling up and down the languages I wonder if espeak could switch languages as it goes
[21:15] <charlie-tca> There should be an is\
[21:15] <AlanBell> because it can't pronounce francais
[21:15] <charlie-tca> there should be an installer icon as the first launcher in Unity on the dock
[21:16] <AlanBell> yeah, but I am in classic gnome
[21:16] <charlie-tca> The test case is designed specific to unity working. One of the issues yet with the "new" ubuntu
[21:17] <AlanBell> ok, the test case should include that when it starts speaking it should tell you
[21:17] <AlanBell> "desktop environment is unity"
[21:17] <charlie-tca> I don't think it does say that in unity
[21:18] <charlie-tca> I will boot one and listen
[21:18] <AlanBell> and if it tells you desktop environment is classic gnome then different instructions are needed
[21:18] <AlanBell> it does
[21:18] <charlie-tca> If they decide which session a11y will use, it would be much easier, huh?
[21:18] <AlanBell> quite a lot of machines will boot to classic gnome
[21:19] <charlie-tca> I will wrio
[21:19] <charlie-tca> I will write another test then for classic, and put it down as you suggest. 
[21:19] <charlie-tca> That's why I needed someone besides me to try this
[21:20] <UndiFineD> I tried natty 6 days ago ... somewhat of a vista experiance
[21:21] <UndiFineD> unity seems unproductive, so I got annoyed with that, switched to classic, which killed my encrypted user home directory
[21:22] <AlanBell> "use underscore device" radio button lable is a bit crap
[21:22] <AlanBell> as is "custom underscore partitioning"
[21:23] <charlie-tca> I agree. 
[21:23] <maco> O_o
[21:24] <AlanBell> I think I might go through this again and make a video and audio recording of it
[21:28] <charlie-tca> so, how bad is the test case?
[21:28] <charlie-tca> Other than it was written for unity and we need to have one for classic
[21:31] <charlie-tca> AlanBell: thank you for doing the tests. It really helps to know where the fails are now.
[21:31] <charlie-tca> I ran it about 5 times, and did not catch some of that stuff
[21:33] <AlanBell> it is pretty shocking :)
[21:33] <AlanBell> I knew that already, but I am still shocked once more
[21:52]  * UndiFineD hears "it's electrifying, go grease lightning"
[21:52] <UndiFineD> :P
[21:53] <charlie-tca> Well, I guess that is one way to put it :-)
[21:54]  * charlie-tca goes to write a new test for classic-gnome; that's what he started with, too
[21:55] <charlie-tca> I will have to install the nvidia card to get it to fall 
[21:55] <charlie-tca> fallback properly
[21:55] <UndiFineD> I had no nvidia trouble on natty
[21:56] <UndiFineD> but I upgraded ..
[21:57] <charlie-tca> If you don't install the hardware driver, unity don't work again
[21:57] <charlie-tca> it was working with one of the default drivers, but now it needs the hardware nvidia driver again
[21:58] <UndiFineD> ah yes I have that