[14:44] <JonathanD> campsite booked.
[15:34] <waltman> along with the bears?
[15:35] <JonathanD> Yes.
[15:35] <JonathanD> Just got off the phone with the zoo
[15:35] <waltman> What kind did you get?
[15:35] <andrew> Which kid are they accepting?
[15:41] <teddy-dbear> if someone wants to pick me up you will at least have a teddy bear :-D
[15:46] <ChinnoDog> JonathanD: You are sending your kids to the zoo?
[15:50] <andrew> He'll tell them it's like a summer camp
[15:54] <ChinnoDog> Like summer camp but doesn't smell as good.
[15:55] <waltman> But with more snakes
[16:09] <InHisName> depending on the kid, snakes might be the BIG draw (appeal) to the zoo.
[16:12] <waltman> If the kid's a Slytherin, for example.
[16:16] <InHisName> Great one, waltman !
[16:17] <JonathanD> yes.
[16:19] <InHisName> My 8y/o daughter likes to 'rescue' worms drowning in the street by picking them up and tossing them back into the grass.   Most girls go ICCH, I'll never touch a worm.
[16:35] <IdleOne> I can say with 100% certainty that I have never and will never touch a worm
[16:35] <IdleOne> I also don't go fishing
[16:35] <IdleOne> last I checked I am not a girl
[16:39] <ChinnoDog> I want to go fishing
[16:39] <ChinnoDog> I have not done that in many years
[16:44] <waltman> We dissected worms in high school biology class.
[16:44] <waltman> There's not much inside a worm.
[16:48] <andrew> dirt
[16:52] <waltman> Pretty much, yeah
[17:48] <InHisName> I dissected quite a few things, a flat worm, eath worm, some bug, frog.   Never go to the pig though.
[18:25] <waltman> I remember doing worms, grasshoppers, and frogs. I'm thinking there must have been one or two more, though.
[18:26] <pleia2> InHisName: my younger sister used to build bug houses, and I once horrified my family by going out with my cousin into the woods and collecting about 50 slugs :)
[18:27] <pleia2> stereotypes need not apply
[18:27] <InHisName> pretty impressive, 50 slugs isn't an easy collection to gather.
[18:29] <pleia2> we spent all afternoon on it
[18:29] <InHisName> Still have that collection ?
[18:29] <pleia2> haha, no
[18:30] <InHisName> Did your mom go,  thanks for grubbin' for dinner ?
[18:30] <InHisName> Just add a little salt .......
[18:30] <pleia2> no she went "EWWWW!!!"
[18:31] <pleia2> my cousin asked for salt
[18:31] <InHisName> too bad . ..
[18:31] <pleia2> my aunt refused :)
[18:31] <pleia2> not sure how I felt about turning them inside out anyway
[18:31] <InHisName> dissecting ?
[18:31] <pleia2> bugs are animals and I like animals
[18:32] <pleia2> I still don't kill bugs when I see them unless there is a compelling need (mosquitos sucking my blood don't have much of a chance, random bugs in my house are safely released)
[18:32] <InHisName> right, rocks less interesting at dissecting...     Unless you bump into a geode.
[18:33] <pleia2> we had to dissect a frog at school, it was not an easy experience
[18:33] <InHisName> I try to convince my kids that spiders are good for eating all the ants etc. around.
[18:34] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5569825138/ spider!
[18:34] <PennBot> Title: img_8656.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at www.flickr.com)
[18:35] <pleia2> that one was at a science academy
[18:35] <pleia2> http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/spider_in_shower.jpg is pretty good
[18:35] <InHisName> My frog was rubberized (latex injected) color coded and hardly seemed like it was ever alive.  Kinda disappointing since I was loaded up with lots of fear and trepadtion.
[18:35] <pleia2> I got in to take a shower, it was there, I was all "I'll just deal with it when I get out"
[18:36] <pleia2> yeah, ours were too, they came in a big sealed bag and smelled funny
[18:37] <InHisName> that first one I've see lotta times in Fla in the woods.  Harmless just JARRING when you nearly run into them with your face on a trail.
[18:39] <InHisName> I had a friend who was at NASA in the early 60's (cape canaveral fla) on contract.   His motel had no AC and screen doors.
[18:40] <InHisName>  He killed this big 2.5" spider in bathroom that lived behind the vanity mirror.
[18:40] <InHisName> Then the next morning was a walking mound of mosquito bites.  Complained to office.
[18:40] <InHisName> They asked if the spider was acting sickly. ?
[18:41] <InHisName> Ooops.
[18:42] <pleia2> oh dear :)
[18:43] <InHisName> pleia2: are you too far west for scorpions ?   Not real fond of those at all.
[18:43] <pleia2> I don't know, I've never seen one outside a zoo
[18:44] <InHisName> Bet you're glad about that.
[18:44] <pleia2> http://sparkless.net/matt/CALdatabase.htm
[18:44] <PennBot> Title: The Scorpions of California (at sparkless.net)
[18:44] <pleia2> but none in my county apparently (my county is san francisco, so not surprising)
[18:45] <InHisName> is it the tinyest square in the middle on the coast ?
[18:46] <pleia2> yes
[18:47] <InHisName> even sacramento has NO records.  They 're in the middle of the state NOT on shore.  Amazing.
[18:47] <pleia2> I just found this site by googling, I have no idea about accuracy :)
[18:48] <InHisName> Los Angles, San Diego  - gobs and gobs of records.   Nevada county - none.    May be a southern insect.
[18:50] <InHisName> Maybe not, there is paper called "Scorpions of the Northern Californian coast ranges"
[18:50] <pleia2> yeah, the tv tells me they like heat and dry places
[18:50] <InHisName> referenced in San Luis Obispo co.
[18:50] <InHisName> Is that a southern county ? or north of you ?
[18:52] <InHisName> Maybe they are relative to "Baja California" when they say Northern California.
[18:52] <pleia2> I don't actually know :)
[18:52]  * pleia2 would have to look at a map
[19:18] <waltman> In 1986 I camped just outside of Oakland (I think it was Redwood Regional Park) and we found a scorpion under our tent.
[19:18] <waltman> It's the only one I've ever seen in the wild
[19:19] <waltman> We also saw a rattlesnake on that trip.  I think it was at Yosemite.
[19:21] <waltman> So anyway, yes, they have scorpions in the Bay Area
[19:23] <pleia2> neat
[19:24] <waltman> http://baynature.org/articles/apr-jun-2006/happy-trails
[19:24] <PennBot> Title: Happy Trails Bay Nature (at baynature.org)
[19:30] <rhpot1991> spiders are good for you, I don't kill them when I find them in my house
[19:43] <waltman> I kind of like them too, mostly
[19:44]  * waltman opted for green tea this afternoon instead of usual americano from the department kitchen
[19:44] <waltman> s/usual/his usual/
[19:46] <InHisName> I opted for rice pudding.  The closest drink I had since b'fast.
[19:50] <waltman> I got some peanut m&m's, too
[20:13] <InHisName> Hrrrrm, peanut butter and choc.chips, yum.   BRB
[21:26] <ChinnoDog> lamalex: Do you know if there is a way to write Android apps in VB .NET?
[21:27] <lamalex> yeah
[21:27] <lamalex> monodroid
[21:27] <ssweeny> monodroid?
[21:27] <ssweeny> right
[21:27] <ssweeny> but then you have two problems
[21:27] <MutantTurkey> gobble gobble
[21:27] <MutantTurkey> that is disgusting, vb net is almost as bad as droid D:
[21:28] <lamalex> yeah, i don't know why anyone would /want/ to be writing anything in vb.net
[21:29] <ChinnoDog> mono-android.net/FAQ indicates VB isn't supported
[21:29] <ChinnoDog> It only seems to support C#
[21:31] <lamalex> ah
[21:31] <lamalex> ok then
[21:31] <lamalex> there's your answer
[21:31] <lamalex> lucky for you
[21:38] <ChinnoDog> lamalex: not lucky. There doesn't seem to be a way to do it
[21:44] <ssweeny> that's to protect people from using VB
[21:45] <ChinnoDog> :-p
[21:46] <lamalex> yeah really, who cares that you can't write vb.net on android
[21:46] <lamalex> you're better off
[21:46] <lamalex> everyone is better off
[21:46] <bts3685|vps> +1
[21:47] <bts3685|vps> lamalex: back up your shiz on g.rainwreck.com, i'm gonna do a dist-upgrade sometime next week or so
[21:47] <lamalex> ha
[21:47] <lamalex> "ok"
[21:48] <lamalex> oh bts3685|vps by they way hey dude i miss you
[21:51] <bts3685|vps> i miss you too! i hear you're in maine these days
[21:56] <lamalex> truth
[21:56] <lamalex> but not for long
[21:56] <lamalex> may -> back to philly / july -> rio negro, argentina
[21:59] <bts3685|vps> sheeit! what's in argentina? (i'm moving to orlando aprial/may-ish)
[22:00] <bts3685|vps> s/ria/ri/
[22:11] <ChinnoDog> You are moving to Orlando?
[22:12] <bts3685|vps> yeah
[22:24] <ChinnoDog> I finally am going to Nola and you won't even be there.
[22:26] <bts3685|vps> i know!
[22:26] <bts3685|vps> i might bring the girlfriend there on a roadtrip though...
[22:27] <bts3685|vps> hell, i might still be here. i don't know when i can afford to move
[22:28] <ChinnoDog> I know how you feel. :\ Not moving to DC yet...
[22:28] <ChinnoDog> What is in Orlando?
[22:31] <bts3685|vps> girlfraan'
[22:31] <bts3685|vps> better weather
[22:32] <bts3685|vps> better chance of jobs, lower cost of living, lower car insurance
[22:32] <bts3685|vps> (louisiana has the highest rates of car insurance.)
[22:33] <ChinnoDog> Why is the gf in Orlando?
[22:34] <bts3685|vps> i currently pay $220/mo for a lowest possible rate, as in just-state-legal. it sucks.
[22:34] <bts3685|vps> oh, she lives there. grew up there
[22:34] <bts3685|vps> i'm the "long distance"-er
[22:35] <ChinnoDog> long_distance--
[22:36] <bts3685|vps> long_distance-- +1
[22:36] <ChinnoDog> Been there, done that, would not care to repeat it.