[07:42] <sakhi> moonin
[07:52] <superfly> heya sakhi
[07:52] <superfly> morning maiatoday
[08:53] <tr4x> hey folks
[09:03] <superfly> morning tr4x
[09:27] <inetpro> good morning
[09:27] <inetpro> superfly: have you loaded Firefox on your N900 yet?
[09:28] <inetpro> if you haven't just go to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/m
[09:28] <superfly> inetpro: I have the RC
[09:29] <superfly> but it's very slow
[09:29] <inetpro> cool, how do you like it so far?
[09:29]  * inetpro has helped a friend install it on his Galaxy Tab and he's extremely happy with it
[09:29] <superfly> I like the interface, it's cool
[09:29] <superfly> but VERY slow
[09:30] <superfly> painful to use
[09:30] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[09:31] <inetpro> interesting review: http://www.androidza.co.za/firefox-for-android-quick-review/
[11:15] <tumbleweed> superfly: feel like designing a theme for the ubuntu packaging guide? :P
[11:15] <superfly> heh
[11:16] <superfly> tumbleweed: I'm afraid I'm *really* busy at the moment, don't think I'll have the time
[11:16]  * tumbleweed guessed as much :)
[11:18] <superfly> tumbleweed: you talking about this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide
[11:18] <tumbleweed> yeah
[11:18] <tumbleweed> e.g. daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/
[11:19] <superfly> ah, using Sphinx
[11:19] <tumbleweed> yar
[11:34] <superfly> tumbleweed: something like this? http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3876/ubuntupackagingguide.png
[11:35] <tumbleweed> I can't view that
[11:35] <superfly> hrm
[11:35] <superfly> http://img140.imageshack.us/i/ubuntupackagingguide.png/
[11:35] <superfly> tumbleweed: ^^ better?
[11:35] <tumbleweed> yes
[11:36] <tumbleweed> mind if I paste that in #ubuntu-motu?
[11:36] <tumbleweed> have I successufully hooked you?: P
[11:36] <superfly> hahaha
[11:36] <superfly> yeah, I'll give it ago this evening
[11:36] <superfly> you're welcome to post it in #ubuntu-motu
[11:36]  * superfly didn't do much, just changed a few colours
[11:40] <tumbleweed> aah. I think they are considering re-using bits from ubuntu-website
[11:40] <tumbleweed> (it's on launchpad)
[11:40] <superfly> yeah, that would be a good idea (that's what I was thinking)
[11:41] <tumbleweed> chat to dholbach if you are still hooked :)
[11:45] <tumbleweed> superfly: can you propose a bzr merge of that?
[12:00] <superfly> tumbleweed: can do
[12:00] <tumbleweed> superfly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/+bug/740044 btw
[16:39] <Symmetria> *HRM*
[16:39] <Symmetria> there needs to be some huge bush fire between capetown and azerfontein
[16:39] <Symmetria> :P so that people stop getting pissy when you wanna dig up their flowers to lay fiber
[16:41] <Tonberry> lol
[16:41] <Symmetria> no one gives a fuck about feinbos :P gimme fiber :P
[16:42] <Tonberry> hahaha
[16:42] <drubin> Symmetria: language
[16:42] <Symmetria> drubin sorry, I dont know of polite language for eco freaks :P
[16:43] <drubin> Symmetria: I don't mind what you call them just not in here
[16:43] <Tonberry> tree huggers
[16:43] <drubin> Symmetria: this is supposed to be family friendly
[16:47]  * inetpro agrees with drubin
[16:48] <drubin> inetpro: ^5
[16:49] <superfly> Ditto here
[18:53] <inetpro> good evening?
[18:55] <inetpro> drubin: what ssh client would you recommend on an android device?
[18:55] <inetpro> drubin: android device like the Galaxy Tab*
[18:57] <inetpro> or anybody else for that matter
[19:07] <|3o|3> erm...
[19:07] <|3o|3> what did I used to use...
[19:09] <froztbyte> connectbot is the one I hear a lot of people use
[19:09] <|3o|3> Yeah inetpro, I think I used that before
[19:09] <inetpro> froztbyte: thanks
[19:10] <inetpro> is there something like rdesktop on android?
[19:11] <|3o|3> there's gmote
[19:11] <|3o|3> but it doesn't relay your screen
[19:12] <|3o|3> Yeah, connectbot is the app...
[19:32] <drubin> inetpro: connectbot is the defecto standard and only one ;)
[19:32] <drubin> inetpro: You got a Galaxy Tab? what are your thoughts?
[19:32] <inetpro> drubin: thanks
[19:32] <inetpro> drubin: no but a colleague has and I would love to have one
[19:33] <inetpro> it's a great device
[19:33] <drubin> it is average
[19:33] <|3o|3> drubin: you're average
[19:33] <drubin> |3o|3: s/above average/average ;)
[19:39] <inetpro> drubin: so what would you rate as better than the galaxy tab?
[19:40] <inetpro> drubin: what hand held device*
[19:40] <Vhata> an iPad2
[19:40] <inetpro> Vhata: no ways
[19:40] <drubin> inetpro: I agree with Vhata 
[19:41] <inetpro> what?
[19:41] <drubin> even the Ipad one is better then the Galexy
[19:41] <inetpro> yikes
[19:44] <|3o|3> Have you seen the new tablet Amazon is selling?
[19:44] <|3o|3> Android 3
[19:44] <|3o|3> Motorola XOOM
[19:48] <inetpro> the ipad is genuinely to big IMHO
[19:48] <inetpro> and very heavy
[19:49] <inetpro> I don't like what google is doing with android 3 but I bet that it's only a temporary move
[19:50] <inetpro> |3o|3: is the XOOM available yet?
[19:50] <|3o|3> Perhaps not in SA... :/
[19:50] <|3o|3> But it is on the Amazon.com site.
[19:53]  * inetpro wonders what all the apple fanboys are still doing on #ubuntu-za 
[20:19] <Vhata> inetpro: so simply appreciating a device for being well manufactured and usable and enjoyable == "fanboy" now?
[20:19] <Vhata> liking anything that isn't the Official Thing That We Like is wrong now?
[20:23]  * inetpro is just wondering
[20:24] <inetpro> my gut feel says that apple is doing it wrong while ubuntu is trying to uphold FLOSS freedom
[20:25] <inetpro> but maybe I'm wrong?
[20:55] <|3o|3> Apple makes pretty good hardware
[20:55] <|3o|3> and software actually...
[20:56] <|3o|3> I personally would never touch any of it, (unless it was given to me ;)
[20:56] <|3o|3> but its still pretty good
[21:01] <inetpro> |3o|3: that I can agree with
[21:11] <nuvolari> ditto
[21:11] <nuvolari> but...
[21:11] <nuvolari> i'll take the hardware
[21:11] <nuvolari> and install ubuntu
[21:12] <superfly> talking of hardware, any way to revive what seems to be a dead motherboard?
[21:12] <nuvolari> providing support to users on support is a tough job :/ very frustrating
[21:13] <nuvolari> superfly: other than buying a new one... not much, I think :-/
[21:15] <superfly> nuvolari: yeah, so I figured
[21:16] <nuvolari> It's pretty sad actually. I look here at my tower that's been quiet for about a year now. Pretty good hardware, but the Mobo is toast