[00:53] due to heavy cough, my voice is so low I could work as a voice over man [01:22] good night everyone [02:18] How can I add my own music onto U1, to be available as purchased music is? [02:34] vadi2, to stream it? [02:35] Yeah [02:35] and sync between computers as well [02:35] vadi2, just make sure the folder where the music lives is being synced [02:36] I don't know where U1 put the purchased music though, I'd like to use the same one [02:40] vadi2, ~/.ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One/ [02:41] ty [07:55] morning all [07:56] mandel: im going to start an hour later to get more time with ralsina later [07:56] so ill be starting in an hour rather than now [08:17] fagan: sure, np [08:17] fagan: but remember that he wants you do seom exercises before he arrives [08:18] mandel: yeah loads of time id say [09:02] ok so mandel what is my task :) [09:03] fagan: give me a second and I'll find it for you, one sec [09:03] or min :P [09:03] sure its cool [09:05] * fagan makes tea [09:11] fagan: ther you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/587264/ [09:16] mandel: ok [09:24] fagan: it would also be nice if you try to use a more advance editor than gedit to do it like vim/emacs [09:26] mandel: well I did orignally but then always settled on gedit [09:26] but ill give it a go [09:27] fagan: it takes time to get used to one of them, but ti is an advence tool, and once you get used to it, you will work a lot better [09:27] mandel: sure [09:28] fagan: I use vim and I can give you a hand setting it up, I have no clue about emacs, but I know thisfred and vds can help you to set ip up for python devel very quickly [09:28] you can even add a pylint/pyflakes plug in to help you with the pep8 things etc.. [09:29] fagan, hello! ping me if I can be of any help. [09:29] vds: you are great :) [09:29] vds: cool thanks [09:29] mandel: just installing [09:29] mandel, I'm just big... :P [09:30] vds: hehehe :) [09:30] * fagan was just scanning down synaptic for vim stuff to try out [09:40] Yeah I think I realised what I never got into using vim [09:40] :) [09:44] fagan: there is a nice tutorial tht you can run within vim to start using it, should be a good start [09:44] fagan: but do take a look at emacs too, some people find it hard to get their head around vim due to the way it works [09:45] mandel: yeah I remembered that I couldnt figure how to save a file back in the day when i tried first but I got it now [09:45] (esc+:w) [09:46] the esc bit was what I never did [09:47] mandel: oh there is only 1 think id like now and that is undo [09:47] u [09:47] mandel: :u ? [09:48] redo: ctrl+r [09:48] oh its just ctrl u [09:48] fagan: when you are not in edit mode [09:48] is just u [09:48] where edit mode is i [09:48] thats interesting because everywhere else its ctrl+z [09:48] in vim you want to be in edit mode as little as possible [09:49] so that you can use dw, dd, etc.. ithout having to do esc all the time [09:49] thats why I say, try also emacs, so that you see which one fits you better [09:49] ah ok [09:50] ill give vim a go today and give emacs tomorrow and see which I like [09:52] I'd say a week each [09:53] Chipaca: well I pick up on stuff pretty easy so a day would be good enough to get the flavor [09:53] But I could go a week and see anyway [09:53] also: if you have somebody close to you who uses one of them, use that -- having somebody point you at productivity tips kills anything the software might give you (in this case, i mean, where they're pretty much the same, if completely different) [09:55] I think we have people on both sides of the fence, so without starting yet another editor war, I think we have enough people to give you a hand :) [09:55] religious battle on!! [09:55] The winner gets me [09:59] mandel: I think I can do this task in the lowest amount of code [09:59] :) [10:00] fagan: cool, when done ping me if you want so I can take a look [10:00] if ralsina is not here, I think he wanted to do that [10:01] mandel: well its still early there [10:04] fagan: if he says he will be up early , generally he is [10:04] yeah I know [10:04] I presumed early would be like now or in an hour I suppose [10:04] I'd not be surprise if he is here in an hour or earlier :) [10:05] mandel: oh 1 more question whats the binding for pasting? [10:05] (ctrl+v in most other editors) [10:06] p [10:06] fagan: here is how it goes, there are diff ways to copy in vim [10:06] for example yw il copy the word you are on [10:06] and p will paste it [10:06] yy will copy the entire line [10:06] and p will paste it [10:07] ofcourse if you want to copy more than one word, for example 3 you can do: [10:07] 3yw [10:07] and if you want to paste something more than once you can do [10:07] 3p [10:07] :) [10:07] ahh [10:07] x is cut :) [10:08] d == delete [10:08] dw == delete word [10:08] dd == delete line [10:08] and ofcourse the use of number to repeat actions, 3dw, 3dd [10:08] etc... [10:09] I trigged code completion there accidently [10:09] :) [10:10] haha :) [10:10] ill get the hang of it [10:10] fagan: one thing I find very useful are the :split and :vsplit to have more than one buffer open in the same terminal [10:10] so :vsplit /pat/to/file will open a vertical bufffer with the new file [10:11] ctrl+w allows you to move around the buffers [10:11] Oh that sounds like it would be useful [10:11] all this in terminal vim, and dont know how it works in gvim :) [10:12] well I was presuming if I wanted to have more than 1 "window" id have to make some screens [10:17] \o/ I crashed the pep8 checker [10:19] really? [10:20] mandel: yep [10:20] hehe [10:32] mandel: do I have do handle decimal places in this example [10:35] fagan: what do you mean exactly? [10:35] mandel: 13.9% rate $1321.42 dollars [10:35] ...etc [10:36] yes [10:36] I dont exactly know how to do that [10:36] :) [10:38] The good news is im almost done [10:38] what do you mean you dont know? the formula is: [10:38] amount = principal * ((1 + (rate / 100.0)) ** years) [10:39] so, you just get the values from the ui, calculate and return it [10:39] mandel: I have it displaying the decimal places fine but for the spinboxes and stuff [10:39] do I need to have them allowing decimal places [10:40] did you look at the image http://twitpic.com/4ew55l? [10:40] yep [10:40] so it should but I dont know how to do it [10:43] fagan: I'm very tempted to give you the straight answer…. [10:43] ha [10:43] but instead, as I'm a bastard, I'll give you this: http://www.opendocs.net/pyqt/pyqt4/html/qspinbox.html [10:43] :) [10:44] is not directly the answer, but somewhere in there it tells you how to do it [10:44] hmmmmm [10:48] fagan: can you find it? [10:49] mandel: nope :) [10:50] well, if I were you and I was reading docs in a webbrowser and wantd to know that, I'd do a search for double or floating [10:50] right, since 2.3 is a double, but they are represented as a floating point :P [10:52] found it already? [10:52] so there is a double spin box [10:52] yes :) [10:56] Hmmm self.sender.objectName() doesnt work [10:58] why do you need self.sender.objectName() ? [10:58] Oh I can get around it [10:58] mandel: well I wanted to get the name so I knew what was sending the signal [10:58] and then use a bool to check what has been edited [10:58] But maybe I could have do that another way [10:59] fagan: I dont think you are doing the logic correctly, no matter which spinbox sends the signal, you have to recalculate the value, so the slot use for any of the signals is the same [11:00] QObject.connect(self.ui.spin1, SIGNAL('valueChanged(double)'), self.recalculate) [11:00] mandel: ah so I dont need to conditionally check if its been edited and then go do the work [11:01] mandel: i was handling that event anyway [11:01] fagan: if you get the signals, is that the value changed, right? [11:01] I mean, the signal is called valueChanged :) [11:02] mandel: well I was thinking that id have to check if all 3 were edited first [11:02] but that doesnt really make much sense I suppose [11:03] no, it does not, the formula uses the 3 of them, ergo one of the out od date == wrong value for the user [11:06] ok im almost done then [11:11] hi everyone [11:12] hey karni [11:12] * karni waves at fagan \o [11:21] DONE \o [11:22] and pushed [11:22] * fagan dances till ralsina comes to judge [11:23] hi fagan, stop that! ;-) [11:23] hah [11:23] good morning everyone [11:23] * fagan cleans the code up a bit anyway [11:24] ralsina: internet any better? [11:25] apparently [11:25] but I've only been using it 2 minutes ;-) [11:25] anyway, one small thing to consider: the value of loose coupling [11:25] I saw you wanted to check the sender of a signal. 99% of the time, don't do that. [11:26] Oh forgot I have to sort something with payroll real quick [11:26] Usually, requiring to know who triggered the callback is a sign of poor design, and means your callback does too much [11:26] ralsina: yeah I stopped that as soon as I realised that was bad [11:26] fagan: cool. It's a code smell when you are doing Qt [11:27] go ahead with payroll [11:27] ill push the code first [11:28] ralsina: lp:~shanepatrickfagan/+junk/compound_interest [11:31] morning [11:32] morning rye [11:33] fagan: wakeup son time, but I will be taking a look and get back to you in about... 75 minutes [11:33] ralsina: cool [11:34] it'll probably take me that long to email about payroll [11:36] morning all [11:36] fagan: I never cared much about payroll. You jumping around and talking about it makes me stressed I'm missing something ;d [11:36] hi duanedesign ! [11:37] karni: ha I have to submit an invoice to get paid so its takes a bit of effort the first time [11:37] hey duanedesign [11:37] fagan: ah! right, that's what I did once as well. [11:38] karni: so I have to find my bank details and then get all the info right [11:38] so its a bit of a pain since I dont have it at hand [11:38] fagan: yes, now I get it. I went through that as well. [11:38] I have called my bank back then for the details. [11:39] karni: well its in my sent mail for my email so its not that hard [11:39] so, people, is there anybody using maverick now? [11:39] * fagan participated in a pyramid scheme [11:39] fagan: i finally found a solution to running history command w/ python: subprocess.Popen(bash -i -c "history -r; history", shell=True, stdin=PIPE, stdout=PIPE, stderr=STDOUT) [11:40] rye: I have a vm, is that of any use [11:40] fagan: o_O you went for that? [11:40] Is there anybody whose gnome-settings-daemon crashes with the newest ubuntuone-client ? [11:40] rye: I havent been using maverick since alpha 1 [11:40] mandel, i also have a vm, but it is not crashing [11:40] :) [11:41] fagan, ah, no, it is in maverick-updates, something is bad with bug #744383 [11:41] Launchpad bug 744383 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash() (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744383 [11:41] crap [11:41] duanedesign: thats nice [11:43] fagan: a few quick observations. [11:43] ralsina: shoot [11:43] its just a first run through though [11:43] fagan: when you are doing a layout that is a column of "label:" widget things? Use a form layout [11:43] ralsina: ah ok [11:44] That makes it look "right" because each platform has different conventions about alignment and such [11:44] yeah thats ok [11:44] also, you are missing a label [11:44] I just did a qwidget I think [11:44] it doesn't matter if it's a qwidget or not [11:44] ralsina: which one? [11:44] QFormLayout is a form of layout, like a grid or a vertical layout or horizontal. [11:44] "Amount:" [11:44] ah ok [11:45] fagan: it started to become a challenge rather then a practical solution :P [11:45] duanedesign: yeah it sounded like a pain [11:45] fagan: since part of the exercise is "make it look like this", attention to detail and *making it look like that* are very important. Remember we are working with wireframes provided by designers. [11:45] fagan: so, iterate, and I'll take another look when I come back. [11:46] fagan: also note, I have not even looked at the code ;-) [11:46] yeah and the css isnt needed there at all I just left it from the old example [11:46] yes, remove the CSS [11:46] ralsina: yeah the code is ok ish but isnt up to standard in terms of style [11:46] oh, and if you use compiled resources, provide a way to create them, even if it's just a file with the commands written on it [11:47] fagan: I really have not looked, so fix all you want and I will not check the commit history ;) [11:47] ralsina: yeah I was going to create a setup.py to make it easier to test [11:47] fagan: that may be overkill for these exercises, but it's ok if you want [11:48] well it wouldnt be hard to make an sh then instead [11:48] basically "pyrcc4 whatever.rc -o whatever.py" and so on [11:49] also, check the IRC log, check what you have discussed with mandel, and try to follow his advice. If you decide not to, have an explanation handy. [11:49] ralsina: yeah im using vim now and all [11:49] and the other stuff I did too [11:50] fagan: cool ;) [11:53] fagan: you are going to think I am nitpicking your little example app to death. That is correct, because that's what doing UI work is, a constant series of nitpicks. Have fun ;) [11:53] ralsina: well thats the joys of an evolutionary approach to learning [11:53] :) [11:54] yep. Get cranking as soon as you are done with payroll [11:54] ralsina: email just sent [11:55] ralsina: the amount label is there ? [11:55] oh and i was wrong I made that as a mainwindow [11:55] fagan: check the image you were given, please. Put them both side by side. [11:56] But you are right, you do have an amount label ;) [11:56] oh I just renamed it [11:59] check the number of rows on both. [11:59] oh [11:59] whoops [11:59] and the number of columns on each row [12:00] so, no more feedback, iterate and come back with another version. [12:00] ralsina: just about to push a new version [12:01] take your time. This one was rushed. Check, run the tools I gave you, fix what they tell you to fix, I am not in a hurry. [12:02] cool [12:20] yay I went from a -214.23/10 to 7.08/10 on pylint [12:20] \o/ [12:33] * mandel walking dog [12:52] ralsina, have you by any chance chased the "tomboy is pointing to edge" thing? [13:02] * fagan lunch [13:14] Standup in the 45 yeah? [13:22] fagan: yes [13:22] beuno: nope [13:22] beuno: noone has touched anything in tomboy, why is it pointing to edge now? [13:23] fagan: feel free to push a branch whenever you have something to show me [13:28] ralsina: branch already pushed [13:28] fagan: cool, I'll take a look right now [13:34] ralsina, the api [13:34] is pointing to the edge servers [13:35] argh [13:35] beuno: ok, I'll take care of it [13:36] fagan: it doesn't seem to actually work [13:37] ralsina: whats the output? [13:37] nothing [13:37] ralsina: did you run python main.py or ./main.py [13:37] because: AttributeError: 'MainWindow' object has no attribute 'ui' [13:37] oh my bad [13:37] fagan: should be the same thing one way or the other [13:38] ill fix it after standup I was trying to pass pylint [13:38] there was some name issue [13:38] its something small [13:39] fagan: passing pylint is not useful if it doesn't work ;) [13:39] ralsina: yeah I know I just changed a name and thought I tested it [13:39] fagan: every branch you do here will have to pass reviews (2). If you don't check things carefully, you waste the time of 2 other developers. [13:39] yeah I know [13:40] fagan: ok, I'll wait for the next iteration then. [13:40] fagan: you may want to read about "new style" connects in PyQt. let me find that doc... [13:40] yeah its just a 1 minute fix [13:41] fagan: read this, it will make your code cleaner: http://pysnippet.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-style-pyqt-signals-and-slots.html [13:42] cool will look at it after break [13:42] ok [13:44] does anyone know if it's impossible/bad form to pass command line arguments to the executable when using dbus activation? [13:44] ralsina: actually im not doing anything at the moment anyway now so ill come off break now and fix it [13:45] fagan: no need, but feel free! [13:48] ralsina: working and pushed now [13:48] cool, will check [13:49] could you explain what the 2 errors pylint is outputting? [13:49] thisfred, perhaps there's some way to do it from the .service file. [13:49] thisfred, but I don't think that makes much sense. [13:49] ralsina: Ill go fix the style now too [13:49] alecu: When I google it, it seems that it's possible, but of course nowhere is it documented [13:50] alecu: yeah, then you [13:50] 're still locked into a single set of values [13:50] fagan: there must be something wrong with the formula because $100 at compound interest for 0 years should not give you $0, but that's neither here nor there [13:50] and you might as well make them the defaults [13:50] thisfred, right [13:51] alecu: maybe I need to split the service activation and the calling of the method, but I don't know how to do that without creating timing issues [13:52] * fagan googles compound interest [13:52] alecu: actually, it seems calling the method should just work, I don't know why it doesn't [13:53] oh I screwed a little bit of the logic up [13:53] * mandel back [13:54] thisfred, right. The only thing you do from the outside is calling the method; the activation happens automatically if the process is not running yet. [13:54] did I miss the stand up? [13:54] mandel, it's in 5' I believe. [13:54] yep [13:54] cool :) [13:54] alecu: yeah, so when I call the method, the service is started, but it looks like the method is not called, i.e. the panel does not switch [13:54] probably a bug somewhere still [13:55] ah [13:55] I know [13:55] the service file does not point to my branch. Doh [13:55] :-) [13:56] fagan: if you check the object inspector in designer, you will notice there is a problem with the layout [13:56] ralsina: will do [13:56] also, the names you give to the objects are instance names, so they should be like object_name, not ObjectName [13:57] ralsina: ok ill fix it. Thats me going back to my college's naming conventions [13:57] also, the app starts with the objects initialised wrong [13:58] as in, the "output" label is showing the wrong value. [13:58] And, last one: look in your IRC client log for QDoubleSpinBox [13:58] ralsina: the output label should be blank by default I thought? [13:58] fagan: why? [13:58] fagan: the inputs are not blank [13:59] the output should always match the expected result for theinputs [13:59] ralsina: Ok I didnt and I did have it as a QDoubleSpinBox but something dumb happend and I forgot to change it back [14:00] ill fix it now [14:00] don't rush it, compare it to what we asked for before pushing. [14:01] me [14:01] me [14:01] alecu dobey mandel thisfred remember the new standup schedule? Well, it's now ;-) [14:01] me [14:01] me [14:02] nessita is not here but I have her report, so "me as nessita" [14:02] so go? [14:02] me [14:03] go fagan go! [14:03] DONE [14:03] * Did more python/pyqt polishing: - Did a compound interest converter (which passes pep8 and almost passes pylint) [14:03] * Got payroll sorted [14:03] TODO [14:03] * More pyqt stuff [14:03] * harsh reviews from ralsina [14:03] * try out vim and emacs and choose which one I like better [14:03] BLOCKED [14:03] * nope [14:03] mandel: go [14:03] * ralsina is not harsh [14:03] hehe [14:03] * ralsina is a freaking teddy bear [14:04] ;) [14:04] DONE: Fixed branch issue in the windows code of sso which I requested to review to ralsina and nessita. Added extra test to the sso ui on windows so that if the .ui files change we can ensure that everything will work. Added root object to start the qt ui on windows with sso which means that everything is in place to use it on windows. [14:04] TODO: propose merges, package sso as a .exe to be executed at boot time. Talk with clarita about certain parts of the user journey in sso on windows. [14:04] BLOCKED: no [14:04] ralsina: go go go [14:04] * DONE get ubuntuone-couch into natty [3/3] [14:04] - [X] 0.2.0 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-couch/release-0.2.0/+merge/53317 [14:04] - [X] ubuntuone-couch FFE http://pad.lv/729117 [14:04] - [X] wait for the package to get through the upload queue [14:04] * DONE review https://code.launchpad.net/~pedronis/ubuntuone-servers/couchdb-migration-cleanup-retry-n-fixes/+merge/55520 [14:04] * INPROGRESS notifications/alerts of quota events http://pad.lv/702172 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/quota-notifications [14:04] NEXT: ralsinessita [14:04] oops [14:04] DONE: calls, reviews, sprint stuff, wrote a webforum over lunch [14:04] TODO: same things, but more, plus performance reviews [14:05] BLOCKED: no [14:05] ralsinessita! [14:05] DONE: bug #704434, bug #726867. Coded new branch for SRU+UIFE bug #742678, so the register_user API is restored to avoi API changes. While testing a branch, I files bug #744980 and I started to fix it. [14:05] TODO: finish bug #744980, fix bug #729301. If there is time left, fix bug #726612. [14:05] BLOCKED: nopes [14:05] Launchpad bug 704434 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Stop the backend service when UI is done (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704434 [14:05] Launchpad bug 726867 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Devices tab shows nothing when syncdaemon is not responsive (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726867 [14:05] Launchpad bug 742678 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "[SRU] Registration should require user full name (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742678 [14:05] alecu? [14:05] Launchpad bug 744980 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Disable/enable file sync is buggy (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744980 [14:05] Launchpad bug 729301 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "When disabling file sync from Servies tab, update FIleSyncStatus (affects: 1) (heat: 147)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729301 [14:05] Launchpad bug 726612 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Value could not be retrieved: Need to validate OAuth tokens (affects: 1) (heat: 123)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726612 [14:05] DONE: chased zeitgeist issue breaking client tests on maverick. Helped debug webclient non-timeouting on network disconnection. Started looking at client-server tests breaking up. Pre-reviewed the control panel activation branch for thisfred. [14:05] TODO: fix client-server tests [14:05] BLOCKED: no [14:07] ok, I need a volunteer to fix something on tomboy [14:07] comments? [14:07] it's pointing at edge and it shouldn't [14:07] * alecu watches everybody take a step back [14:07] ouch [14:08] * fagan hides [14:08] alecu: :-) [14:08] alecu: beuno has more details, but I don't think there's much more than that, really [14:09] alecu: do ping me to do reviews, I should be able to do some c# :) [14:09] dobey: when you come back, vds is going to do the server side for banshee, please point him to the related banshee client code so he knows what his input is [14:09] ralsina: I think I fixed the calculating problem [14:09] it gives a pretty big number now [14:09] fagan: cool, push the branch whenever you want, I'll take a look at it :-) [14:10] I could cast it though if its too big [14:10] ralsina: already pushed [14:10] fagan: don't worry about that, floats should cover us for all expected purposes [14:10] :) [14:13] fagan: layout still wrong (nested vertical and form layouts, you don't need the vertical one), empty label on startup, no QDoubleSpinBox, missing file to compile the .ui. Please fix that before pushing again. [14:13] ralsina: if you do have time, the merge proposal fro yesterday is now fixed: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/add_windows_startup_script/+merge/54888 [14:14] as I said, don't rush it [14:14] mandel: sure, on it [14:14] ralsina: I forgot to add the setup.sh file whoops. And the layout is vertical to expand the form layout since it doesnt want to normally [14:14] ill go fiddle since I think I might have done it wrong originally [14:15] fagan: it will if you use the form layout as the window's layout. Arrange the widgets, then right-click and "layout in a form layout" [14:17] * alecu will reboot after many upgrades [14:21] alecu, right, so it seems tomboy since Maverick? or before, has edge as its api url [14:21] we need to change that in trunk, and backport the fixes [14:21] beuno, ok, I'll look into it. === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:30]