GrueMasterSo, does anyone in kubuntu have armel hardware?  Specifically omap (beagle, beagleXM)?00:22
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ScottKGrueMaster: rbelem has beagle.01:25
ScottKUnfortunately due to a USB related kernel bug he can't test.01:25
* ScottK has a stack of mx.51, but that doens't help.01:25
GrueMasterSigh.  Ok I'll test the remaining omap image01:26
ScottKGrueMaster: If it had been Canonical that made armel hardware available to Kubuntu devs, then there'd be a better chance of it being hardware Canonical cares about supprting.01:27
ScottKAh, apachelogger has n900.  01:27
ScottKThat doesn't help either ...01:27
DaskreechJust reading the Nokia VP explanation of Symbian and Qt07:41
DaskreechWhy is the arguement given behind the statement "All together, this means your investment in Qt is a safe choice for skill competency, monetization opportunities and brand awareness amongst our millions of users." supposed to be compelling?07:41
valorie"look over here at Qt, not over there at WinPhone"07:49
Daskreechhttp://wl4.peer360.com/b/OZ4Y0HB4qe2y4P0Aobr0/main.asp <--- Full verbage 07:51
Daskreechvalorie: Did you do the KDE survey?07:59
valorieyes, I saw it on the www chan08:00
valorieand I think I dented it08:00
valorieyou ok, Daskreech?08:02
valorieit sounds like you are having a bad day08:03
* Daskreech is just annoyed at lots of stuff08:03
DaskreechThanks :)08:12
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Riddellbeta beta beta!09:44
ghostcubehello guys a little article postet in ubuntu-de-offtopic10:40
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | beta 1 bugs http://goo.gl/HbXHe
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | beta 2 bugs http://goo.gl/HbXHe
afiestasRiddell: We should release today if everything (and all tests) go fine11:19
Riddellafiestas: bluedevil?11:19
afiestassince we don't have much time to test before final kubuntu release I'd like to take some time to test everythign myself11:19
afiestasRiddell: yes11:19
afiestasRiddell: how is the obex-data-server update going?11:20
Riddellafiestas: it got packaged but can't be uploaded because we're in freeze for today's beta11:23
Riddelluploads start tomorrow11:23
Riddellor indeed just after beta gets released11:23
Riddellsteveire: I added you to ~kubuntu-members, congratulations on getting membership, your <lpid>@kubuntu.org e-mail should start working in the next day or two, you can add yourself to planet ubuntu if you wish11:32
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers created11:36
RiddellI guess we should work out how to do a mass branch migration11:37
ScottKsteveire: Congratulations.11:42
ScottKRiddell: I'd say let's do the branch migration after release while the toolchain's being updated and no one can upload stuff anyway.11:43
Riddellgood plan11:44
afiestasRiddell: oks, thanks!11:53
steveireRiddell: ScottK: Cool, thanks :)12:13
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Riddellhow's this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu ?14:32
tsimpsonI think this line could be worded better "1) Insert the alternate CD, open it in a new window, open the Run Command dialog by pressing Alt+F2 or if this is not working right click on the desktop or as a last resort, run a terminal window. Type kdesudo "/media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" in the command box and press the return button."14:37
tsimpson"1) Insert the alternate CD, open it in a new window, open the Run Command dialog by pressing Alt+F2. If this does not work right click on the desktop and choose Run Command, or as a last resort, run a terminal window. Type kdesudo "/media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" in the command box and press the return button."14:38
tsimpsonnot sure if s/return button/enter key/ is needed too14:38
shadeslayerRiddell: at the end, i think it should be mentioned that they might have to boot into recovery and/or switch to a vt14:38
shadeslayerto run those commands14:39
rbelemRiddell, did you get the patches for kdelibs so we will be able to build latest plasma-mobile?14:44
Riddellrbelem: I've not looked at them and I won't be able to until monday14:45
Riddellrbelem: are they all suitable for post beta?  i.e. very low risk of regression?14:45
rbelemRiddell, oki14:46
rbelemRiddell, i think it is14:46
rbelemRiddell, i have tested these days in my desktop and i have not experienced regressions14:47
rbelemRiddell, and latest plasma-mobile is a little bit faster14:47
rbelemRiddell, have a built in virtual keyboard14:47
rbelemRiddell, and some other new features14:47
rbelemit has its own kdeinit now14:48
shadeslayerRiddell: btw, in case you decide to .. take a break ... which team are you going to join?14:53
Riddellshadeslayer: bzr/launchpad15:01
shadeslayerRiddell: in that case we shall bug you to fix memory issues with bzr15:02
shadeslayerwe = yofel_ Quintasan_ and me15:02
Riddellmmm, la la la15:06
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Quintasansteveire: gratz15:38
Riddellconfusing, this is not JontheEchidna https://launchpad.net/~jonoomph15:50
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ScottKThis is not the Jonathan Thomas you are looking for ...16:05
ScottKRiddell: Would you please make kubuntu-council an admin for kubuntu-packagers?16:07
RiddellScottK: done16:11
c2tarunoops sorry16:21
steveireQuintasan: Cheers16:33
steveireWhere can mpitt be found? Doesn't seem to be on irc16:35
Riddellsteveire: pitti is on #ubuntu-devel, what are you after him for?16:35
steveirehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/680088 His comment there. It doesn't seem relevant to me because I'm trying to go from 10.04 to 10.10 and he seems to be talking about going from 10.10 to 11.0416:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 680088 in update-manager (Ubuntu Maverick) "Upgrade fails "Can not mark 'kubuntu-desktop' for upgrade "" [Undecided,Fix committed]16:36
apparleguys, I have messed the file associations such that, man:<something> in krunner opens with firefox, how to change it to rekonq16:40
Riddellsteveire: I think he's just said that because the bug was still open for current development release, I've marked it as invalid now so it's only opn for maverick16:40
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Riddellafiestas: obex uploaded17:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: around for a QML Query?17:50
shadeslayerRiddell: is there a date till which one has to apply for sponsorship for the Desktop Summit?17:52
* ScottK notes a new release of telepathy-logger was just uploaded.17:58
ScottKapachelogger: ^^^ any relation of yours?17:58
* shadeslayer searches17:59
ScottKNot kidding: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-logger/0.2.6-1ubuntu117:59
shadeslayerScottK: new telepathy logger in archives?17:59
shadeslayeri compile alot of the telepathy stuff17:59
shadeslayerso i thought i missed a announcement or something17:59
shadeslayerScottK: apart from the telepathy-kde, everything builds fine now18:00
shadeslayerwrote a few scripts with help from yoann2118:00
shadeslayerScottK: do you know of a variable we can use in Neon to set the dir where dbus looks for services?18:01
c2tarunI was reading wiki page for backtrace and I found this line gdb <program> 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-<program>.txt can anyone please explain me what is 2>&1 and tee?18:08
c2tarunI got tee from man page18:08
c2tarunjust 2>&118:08
yofel2>&1 redirects output that goes to the stderr stream to the stdout stream18:12
yofelthat's bash18:12
ScottKc2tarun: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/818255/in-the-bash-shell-what-is-2118:12
c2tarunthanks :)18:13
bambeeRiddell: what about phonon 4.5.0 for the next release ? I mean, Is it planned or not ? If it is, I've to ask a FFE for qzeitgeist, that's why I am asking (I asked ScottK yesterday and he did not know)18:26
ScottKAnd I still don't.18:30
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ulysseshm, I don't have a „Share” tab in Dolphin when clicking a folder and choosing the Properties, not even my system or on a live CD19:21
shadeslayerulysses: natty?19:22
ulyssesshadeslayer: yepp19:22
shadeslayerulysses: is samba installed?19:22
shadeslayerrbelem: ^^19:23
ScottKMake sure your hostname isn't longer than 16 characters.19:32
ScottKsmbios is a bit odd in that regard.19:32
c2tarunis there any tutorial that can help me understanding the o/p of backtrace?19:34
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afiestasRiddell: thanks19:47
afiestasgoing to start the bluedevil after the reboot :)19:47
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rbelemulysses, do you have kdenetwork-filesharing installed?21:11
ulyssesrbelem: no, it's not installed default21:12
apacheloggerScottK: I do not have a relationship with telepathy logger21:14
apacheloggerwouldn't mind getting introduced to him though21:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: I was not around, I am sorry21:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: sure no problem21:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: my QML code is foobared21:15
* apachelogger found a bottle of red wine21:15
shadeslayerred? :O21:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: find a bottle of Blue Wine !!!21:15
apacheloggerI dont care21:15
rbelemRiddell, should kdenetwork-filesharing be installed by default on kubuntu-desktop image?21:15
* apachelogger shall acquire some white one at the gas station21:16
apacheloggerout of wine I am 21:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: so, what is foobared21:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/864921:16
shadeslayermy flippable element does not work :(21:16
shadeslayeroh oh21:17
apacheloggeryou realize that apachelogger has introduced the rule that if your indention exceeds 80/2 characters per line you did something horribly wrong?21:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: define not working21:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/865021:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: basically .. the back is not shown21:19
shadeslayereven tho it registers the click21:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: want me to make a git repo?21:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: you do not actually do anything with the flipped property?21:20
Riddellrbelem: yes it ought to be21:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: if i move my MouseArea out of my Delegate i lose flick functionality21:21
shadeslayerapachelogger:  i want to, i haven't fully implemented back yet, so that's why the simple rectangle21:21
Riddellbambee: I'd like phonon 4.5.0 but without zeitgeist since that adds extra packages to the CD and is untested (it's also unused)21:21
shadeslayeri should comment my code :P21:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: my qml does not suffice for that sorta thing21:22
Riddellbambee: so needs a FFe for phonon 4.5.0 and a FFe for uploading qzeitgeist (we should have it in the archive)21:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: but from general reading I would suppose you have a state problem21:22
apacheloggeras the transformation is bound to the state, but the state actually has no relation to any other state21:22
bambeeRiddell: okay21:22
apacheloggerso your item would need 2 states front and back, where former is defualt and latter gets transited to upon property change21:23
apacheloggermaybe I am wrong though21:24
rbelemRiddell, ulysses said it is not installed by default in livecd21:24
apacheloggerwho knows21:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: I would do it in cpp anyway :P21:24
apacheloggerjava > javascript21:24
apacheloggerjava > cpp > javascript21:24
apacheloggerfor that matter21:24
Riddellrbelem: check the .manifest file in the CD download page on cdimage.u.c21:24
rbelemRiddell, it is not listed there http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.manifest21:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: you just did it the wrong way around21:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: git@github.com:shadeslayer/QML-Mockups.git21:27
bambeeapachelogger: my eyes are bleeding ... I did read "java"21:28
* apachelogger has java in his pants21:29
Riddellrbelem: indeed it's not in the seeds, that's very strange, I'm sure I added it21:38

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