[00:06] <Hamra> what version of kubuntu are you using?
[00:09] <ScorpKing> agnese: mv ~/.Skype ~/.Skype.old
[00:09] <ScorpKing> agnese: and run skype again. that's the easiest way to fix skype problems
[00:10] <Hamra> let's hope he still has skype, and it's not uninstalled already...
[00:10] <ScorpKing> yep
[00:10] <agnese> i unistalled
[00:10] <ScorpKing> agnese: try using apt-get to reinstall
[00:10] <agnese> i had repository disabled i think
[00:11] <Hamra> skype is in partner repository
[00:11] <agnese> yes. i eneabled, updated and now looks like it is installing
[00:12] <Hamra> good :)
[00:12] <agnese> ok, installed. now let's see if it works
[00:12] <agnese> same... 8( it not connecting
[00:12] <agnese> mv ~/.Skype ~/.Skype.old  in terminal, right?
[00:13] <agnese> \o/
[00:13] <agnese> it worked!
[00:13] <ScorpKing> :)
[00:13] <agnese> love you dearss ;)
[00:14] <agnese> thanku thanku
[00:15] <ScorpKing> agnese: most apps store info in hidden files or folder in your home directory. if they give problems try moving the related files and that resets the app settings so they should work again
[00:22] <pc_> :D
[00:41] <sekou> slt
[00:43] <Hamra> ?
[00:49] <Fieldy> !firefox
[01:13] <genii-around> !firefox
[01:17] <basy> hi why chromium and google chrome always goes maximalised ???
[01:19] <basy> whatever i do they come back to maximalised...
[02:30] <naomi_> In terminal I'm in my Downloads folder, how do I move 2 files from this into my Videos folder?
[02:30] <James147> naomi_: mv file1 file2 ~/Videos
[02:30] <James147> naomi_: i would like to note that tab completion on the names in very useful
[02:31] <James147> naomi_: you can also use * to match any number of any character ^^ so to move all .avi files you could use "mv *\.avi ~/Videos"
[02:31] <Daskreech> !tab
[02:32] <James147> ^^ and ~ is a alias for your home directory and is equlivent to the $HOME envroment varible (which you can see if you use "echo $HOME"
[02:32] <naomi_> mv: cannot stat `*.avi': No such file or directory
[02:32] <naomi_> >.>
[02:33] <James147> hmm
[02:33] <Daskreech> naomi_: do you have any avi in that folder?
[02:33] <James147> there is a time that ends with .avi in the current directory?
[02:33] <naomi_> Lol yeah. I'm trying to move 2 .avi files from my downloads to videos.
[02:33] <Daskreech> naomi_: if there is none then it's correct there is no such file or directory
[02:34] <Daskreech> naomi_: ls | grep avi
[02:34] <James147> whats the out put of "ls"?
[02:34] <James147> ^^ it better yet that
[02:34] <naomi_> the .avi is a file withtin a folder within the downloads. if that makes sense
[02:34] <James147> naomi_: ahh, then that gets a little more complcated :)
[02:35] <James147> naomi_: and, do you want to move the files to the root of the videos folder, or within sub folders in the videos folder?
[02:35] <naomi_> Just to the root.
[02:36] <naomi_> Well, hang ong.
[02:36] <naomi_> On.^
[02:36]  * James147 would use find ^^ though there is probally another way
[02:36] <James147> or possibally use */*.avi  ^^
[02:37] <naomi_> I have 2 folders in my downloads that are dvd's. Like one of the folders is called Tangled and within that it has an .avi and a readme or something. I just want to move the entire Tangled folder to Videos.
[02:37] <Daskreech> naomi_: mv Tangled ~/Videos
[02:38] <James147> "find . -iname "*.avi" -exec mv \{} ~/Videos \;"   would move any file ending in .avi to ~/Videos in any folder in the current directory
[02:38] <naomi_> That worked Daskreech thanks.
[02:38] <James147> ^^ then what Daskreech said :)
[02:38] <naomi_> Thanks james. :)
[06:40]  * Daskreech uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs valorie
[06:46] <noaXess> good morning
[06:46] <noaXess> hey Daskreech
[06:46] <Daskreech> hi
[06:46] <noaXess> still have a fancy kpackagekit update window :) http://imgur.com/Y4zmF
[06:48] <areichman> noaXess: I have the same window! Thought it was just my computer
[06:48] <areichman> it looks like it stops using the Oxygen style for some reason
[06:48] <James147> running it as root?
[06:49] <areichman> just clicking on the update package icon in the system tray
[06:49] <noaXess> no.. not really.. the strange thing is, if you open kpackagekit normally, it's as it should.. only if you click the update icon in system tray this fancy window comes up
[06:49] <areichman> right
[06:49] <noaXess> James147: no normal user..
[06:49] <noaXess> just click the update icon
[06:52] <James147> noaXess: what happen if you run kpackagekit as root? (kdesudo kpackagekit)
[06:52] <noaXess> James147: gime few seconds
[06:53] <James147> ^^ and areichman
[06:54] <noaXess> James147: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/whtx749g/kpackagekitroot.png
[06:55] <James147> :S
[07:00] <noaXess> James147: on your kubuntu, no such problem?... it's just a layout problem.. so i can live with it ;)
[07:00] <areichman> James147: running it as root makes it use the GTK-looking theme
[07:00] <areichman> running at as my normal user it looks normal (kpackagekit)
[07:00] <James147> noaXess: not running kubuntu atm :) but will check my vm...
[07:01] <noaXess> James147: hehe ;)
[07:01] <James147> areichman: sounds like the root settings are screwy :S
[07:01] <areichman> how would I change those settings
[07:01] <noaXess> breakfas time.. see ya..
[07:01] <areichman> (I just ran kate as root and it looked messed up)
[07:02] <areichman> I can't log in as root, can I?
[07:02] <areichman> not by default, anyway
[07:02] <James147> areichman: its not advised
[07:02] <areichman> so how do I change the theme for the root account?
[07:02] <James147> areichman: run systemsettings as root and see if you can change the appeaarence
[07:03] <areichman> my widget style for root is oxygen...
[07:03] <areichman> it looks right in the preview but wrong everywhere else
[07:03] <James147> and if you change it?
[07:04] <areichman> it doesn't do anything... I hit apply and it looks like everything has worked but nothing has changed
[07:04] <James147> yeah, have the same here ^^ not sure why
[07:06] <James147> resetting roots profile didnt help :(
[07:07] <James147> areichman: noaXess: what kde version are you running? 4.6.1 here, and I am not seeing the same problem with 4.5.X in the vm of kubuntu
[07:11] <areichman> 4.6.1
[07:13] <James147> posibally a 4.6 regression?
[07:15] <areichman> seems that way. I need to head to bed now, thoug
[07:19] <valorie> !alis
[07:30] <xorxorxor> i installed my ATI graphic driver, now KDE is not booting.
[07:30] <xorxorxor> ATI HD5870m
[07:34] <keithzg> Not booting? What stage is it getting to?
[07:36] <keithzg> Also, what method did you use to install the (I assume) Catalyst drivers?
[07:36] <xorxorxor> well it shows me plain terminals
[07:36] <xorxorxor> i did "sudo sh ati-....bin"
[07:36] <keithzg> erkkk
[07:36] <xorxorxor> worked on gnome +) so i assummed
[07:36] <keithzg> In my experience it's far better to use the drivers provided in the repos.
[07:37] <xorxorxor> how do i do that? using git?
[07:37] <keithzg> Nope, using a package manager :)
[07:37] <xorxorxor> ahhh
[07:37] <keithzg> Although for this specific case you might be better off using Jocket-KDE
[07:37] <keithzg> err, I mean Jockey
[07:37] <xorxorxor> uhm.. should i reinstall kubuntu and give that a stab?
[07:37] <keithzg> since it not only uses the package management backend to download the drivers, but then also enables them for you.
[07:38] <keithzg> You should be able to just uninstall the ATI one you installed.
[07:38] <xorxorxor> oh i didn't know that. through terminal?
[07:38] <keithzg> Err, probably.  Been ages since I did that old fashioned route of using the actual vendor-provided packages to install, heh
[07:38] <xorxorxor> ;)
[07:39] <xorxorxor> ok i'll search for a way to remove the driver
[07:39] <xorxorxor> thanks a lot for your help!
[07:39] <keithzg> np
[07:39] <keithzg> fyi, from what I recall the install script might've left a "fglrx-uninstall.sh" script lying around somewhere for you to use
[07:52] <James147> xorxorxor: renaming /etx/X11/xorg.conf should make xorg use the default drivers again, alloing you to login
[07:53] <xorxorxor> i wish i got that message 5 minutes earlier, reinstalling kubuntu.. lol
[07:53] <James147> :)
[08:05] <xorxorxor> how do i use jockey-kde?
[08:07] <valorie> from the kmenu, or the console, or krunner
[08:07] <valorie> all work well
[08:07] <xorxorxor> it shows no proprietary driver
[08:20] <James147> xorxorxor: on a fresh install? did you update the packagelist?
[08:22] <xorxorxor> James147: oh, I didn't know I had to update the system. Now I see one. thank you!
[08:22] <James147> xorxorxor: you dont have to update ^^just refresh the packagelist :) .. but you may as well upddate
[08:23] <ubuntu> hey, if i am running off a usb can i still update the one on the usb to 4.6?
[08:24] <James147> ubuntu: a live disk? I would say you can... though I do not know if it is presestant or not
[08:24] <andrewh192> present?
[08:24] <andrewh192> what ya mean?
[08:25] <James147> ^^ persistent ^^ meaning the changes will not be undone on a reboot
[08:25] <andrewh192> oh
[08:25] <andrewh192> gotcha
[08:26] <andrewh192> yeah... that was something i was wondering about some other stuff when i boot up from this
[08:26] <andrewh192> says that i could add stuff to add functionability to stuff
[08:26] <andrewh192> but not sure that would do any good past this time using the drive
[08:39] <xorxorxor> the graphic driver is working well. thank you :)
[08:49] <xorxorxor> is it just me, or KDE window redrawing is laggy?
[09:40] <keithzg> xorxorxor: sounds like an issue with the ATI driver's 2D acceleration, there might be ways to tweak around that.
[10:31] <roland> how to make amarok send audio to subwoofer? when I press the subwoofer button in phonon, I hear sound through sub, but when listening to music nothing...
[10:34] <James147> roland: is phonon configured correctly? (using the correct number of channels ^^ the test buttons bypass them i think)
[10:37] <roland> James147: I  only see 1 entry under speaker setup -> sount output: 5.1
[10:37] <James147> are the other profiles?
[10:40] <roland> James147: strange... when I selected 7.1 subwoofer started playing... and when I switched back to 5.1 subwoofer is still playing
[10:40] <James147> roland: what happens if you restart amarok?
[10:41]  * James147 found it be be werid when he was testing it
[10:46] <roland> James147: apparently it doesn't matter if I have selected 5.1 or 7.1. When I restart amarok, no sound comes through .1.... to get sound through subwoofer then I need the change the profile while amarok is running
[10:46] <James147> roland: yeah, i had a similar problem... carnt remember how i fixed it
[10:48] <roland> James147: thanks anyway.. at least I have bass now
[10:48] <James147> roland: try this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Alternative_configurations
[10:48] <James147> ^^ though thats for arch... it might vary slightly
[11:58] <penos> Thanks Ernie - Age 35, New Jersey
[11:58] <penos> My first time was when I was in High School. My friend Ernie and I were fooling around on the floor in his den. I always liked him to take me from behind - it felt naughtier and sexier that way. I was about 17 and he surprised me by running an ice cube along my spine and down the crack of my butt. I shivered with anticipation. He put the ice cube aside and began to rub my ass. He didn't ask
[11:58] <penos> about anal sex. He could see that I was turned on. He pulled out some lube and lubed up his finger, inserting it into my ass. I moaned with pleasure and pushed back towards him. Soon I could hear him pouring more lube onto his cock. At that point I was so turned on I would have let him do anything!
[11:58] <penos> Soon he placed his cock head at my sphincter and said "it's time." Slowly he pushed forward until the head popped beyond the sphincter. Then he stopped to let me relax. After a few seconds of adjustment I started to slowly push back onto him. It was incredible!!!! He reached around and started to play with my clit - I saw stars and came continuously!!! When he came I could feel him swell and
[11:58] <penos> spurt into my ass.
[11:58] <FloodBotK2> penos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <penos_> hi
[11:59] <penos_> Thanks Ernie - Age 35, New Jersey
[11:59] <penos_> My first time was when I was in High School. My friend Ernie and I were fooling around on the floor in his den. I always liked him to take me from behind - it felt naughtier and sexier that way. I was about 17 and he surprised me by running an ice cube along my spine and down the crack of my butt. I shivered with anticipation. He put the ice cube aside and began to rub my ass. He didn't ask
[11:59] <penos_> about anal sex. He could see that I was turned on. He pulled out some lube and lubed up his finger, inserting it into my ass. I moaned with pleasure and pushed back towards him. Soon I could hear him pouring more lube onto his cock. At that point I was so turned on I would have let him do anything!
[11:59] <penos_> Soon he placed his cock head at my sphincter and said "it's time." Slowly he pushed forward until the head popped beyond the sphincter. Then he stopped to let me relax. After a few seconds of adjustment I started to slowly push back onto him. It was incredible!!!! He reached around and started to play with my clit - I saw stars and came continuously!!! When he came I could feel him swell and
[11:59] <penos_> spurt into my ass.
[11:59] <FloodBotK2> penos_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:00] <penos_> hi
[12:00] <penoss> hi
[12:25] <S74rk7> hey everyone... is there an option when running the ./configure command to automatically download missing dependancies?
[12:29] <susundberg> That kind of depends on the package but generally no
[12:30] <susundberg> i find 'apt-file' usefull while hunting 'what package provides that libxyz'
[12:31] <S74rk7> I remember reading on a page before that explained how to work through errors encountered when trying to run the ./configure command.... cant remember for the life of me how it was done... and trying to find it in my bookmarks :-S
[12:31] <vic> howdy all
[12:31] <susundberg> try running the ./configure and check the errors
[12:32] <susundberg> (btw afaik the ./configure is package dependent script and no program or anything -- there is no 'global' rules for that, though some 'standards' exists)
[12:32] <vic> how to know my the gcc version ?
[12:32] <susundberg> gcc -v
[12:32] <vic> command gcc -v òùå ðóäç
[12:33] <vic> command gcc -v not help
[12:33] <susundberg> oh? in my computer it prints "gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-7ubuntu1)
[12:33] <susundberg> " - that is the gcc version afaik. But what do you want to find out? Or what are you trying to do?
[12:35] <vic> i want to find out version
[12:35] <Hamra> gcc --version
[12:35] <vic> i tried it
[12:35] <Hamra> and it says?
[12:36] <Hamra> what does the command output? either a version number, or tell you that you dont have gcc, so please be precise
[12:37] <vic> but request install *gcc or *pentium-builder
[12:37] <vic> what does it mean&
[12:37] <Hamra> can you copy/paste the output?
[12:38] <vic> output on russian
[12:38] <Hamra> ok, try this: sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:39] <vic> thanks
[12:39] <Hamra> you're welcome
[12:39] <S74rk7> susundberg: the ./configure error reads
[12:40] <S74rk7> configure: Checking for compulsory SDL libraries:
[12:40] <S74rk7> checking for sdl-config... no
[12:40] <S74rk7> checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.3... no
[12:40] <S74rk7> *** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found
[12:40] <S74rk7> *** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[12:40] <FloodBotK2> S74rk7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <S74rk7> *** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the
[12:40] <S74rk7> opps :S
[12:40] <Hamra> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[12:41] <Hamra> assuming you're on maverick
[12:41] <S74rk7> yeah
[12:43] <S74rk7> so is there no exact name of the package that you need... just I can see "libsdl1.2-dev" in the error...
[12:43] <S74rk7> when I ran sudo apt-cache search sdl it brought up loads of results... so was confused..
[12:44] <Hamra> i used the sdl-config comment
[12:45] <Hamra> i just typed in my konsole "sdl-config", it complained with: The program 'sdl-config' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:45] <Hamra> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[12:45] <S74rk7> Hamra: and did you just recognise it and know what package it was from?
[12:45] <S74rk7> yeah I got it downloaded there now
[12:45] <S74rk7> ahhhh
[12:46] <Hamra> and if the needed dependency happens not to be an executable, i use packages.ubuntu.com to search for it :)
[12:54] <S74rk7> Hamra: I cant seem to get the next one ... tried packages.ubuntu.com - no luck... can I pastebin 1 more to you mate... ?
[12:54] <Hamra> sure
[12:55] <S74rk7> Hamra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/587776/
[12:55] <S74rk7> Hamra: Thanks mate
[12:56] <susundberg> Also config.log usually contains more info what failed
[12:57] <susundberg> and possibly the link command that usually contains the library name
[12:57] <Hamra> apt-cache search libsdl image
[12:57] <susundberg> and that library name can be googled or queried with apt-file
[12:57] <Hamra> should give you the hint ;)
[12:57] <susundberg> True :)
[12:58] <Hamra> you, of course, need the dev package for building
[13:25] <bug> hi all.
[13:27] <bug> can anyone help i am trying to install packages thru Kpackagekit, and after i authorise the package, the next pop up is "waiting for package manager lock" then i get the follwing error -dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:27] <bug> any idea's??
[13:27] <tsimpson> open konsole, and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[13:28] <bug> ok
[13:28] <bug> it's doing lots of stuff
[13:28] <tsimpson> usually that happens when, for some reason, a package doesn't install properly
[13:29] <tsimpson> so you have to tell dpkg to try again with the above command
[13:29] <bug> ok it's finished, do i ned to reboot or just try the package install again
[13:29] <tsimpson> just try kpackagekit again now
[13:30] <bug> cool it seems to be working
[13:31] <bug> but it does what it needs and says it's finished , however the in kpackagekit the the packages dont show up as installed
[13:32] <bug> it's Java i am trying to install
[13:33] <tsimpson> Java is available in the repositories, and Sun's Java from the Canonical partner repository
[13:33] <tsimpson> !partner
[13:35] <bug> tried that in terminal and nothing happened, just a square cursor on the next line
[13:36] <tsimpson> you run the exact command: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner
[13:37] <tsimpson> then you update your package list, with kpackagekit or "sudo apt-get update"
[13:37] <tsimpson> then look for "sun-java6-jre"
[13:37] <bug> No command 'deb' found, did you mean:
[13:37] <bug>  Command 'debc' from package 'devscripts' (main)
[13:37] <bug>  Command 'derb' from package 'libicu-dev' (main)
[13:37] <bug>  Command 'dab' from package 'bsdgames' (universe)
[13:37] <bug>  Command 'debi' from package 'devscripts' (main)
[13:37] <FloodBotK2> bug: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:37] <bug>  Command 'xdeb' from package 'xdeb' (universe)
[13:38] <tsimpson> erm, I missed off the start..
[13:38] <tsimpson> this: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[13:38] <tsimpson> make sure you don't miss off the quotes
[13:38] <bug> tried this and got the command lines above - <tsimpson> you run the exact command: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner
[13:39] <tsimpson> bug: yes, I missed off the start of the command, bad paste
[13:39] <tsimpson> bug: just this: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[13:39] <tsimpson> everything from the sudo to the last quote
[13:39] <bug> including the last quote
[13:40] <tsimpson> yes
[13:40] <tsimpson> all of it
[13:41] <bug> did that , i didn't get asked for SU password or anything and  it just went back to my  command line
[13:42] <Hamra> yes, password is temporarly cached for now
[13:42] <Hamra> now try installing java again
[13:42] <bug> i am just doing the sudo apt get update
[13:42] <Hamra> ok, good
[13:45] <bug> i tried the package manager again and same thing happened , it said it was all finished , yet i am able to select it to install again.
[13:45] <bug> is there a verification method i can use to see if it loaded
[13:57] <Hamra> bug: open konsole, and type this: java -showversion
[13:58] <Hamra> if java is installed, it will show a version and some help, if not, it will suggest what you should do to get it
[14:01] <naftilos76> hi, has anyone managed to succesfully downgrade from kde 4.6.1 to 4.5.5?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:46] <masese> anyone who knows how to install skype on kubuntu 10.04?
[14:47] <genii-around> !skype
[14:53] <masese> Ekiga is gnome and i am using kde
[14:56] <genii-around> masese: If you like some kde sip client, kphone is simple and works well.
[14:56] <Hamra> firefox is GTK, yet works on KDE. this hasnt been a problem for years, FTK and QT applications work on both KDE and GNOME with no problems
[14:56] <Hamra> s/FTK/GTK
[16:09] <[mors]> hi gents
[16:09] <[mors]> the notification popup shows many "don't show this message again" buttons http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9681493/popup.png
[16:09] <[mors]> known ? fixed ?
[16:13] <Daskreech> Can't say I've seen that before
[16:13] <Daskreech> That's all the time or just for Kmail?
[16:13] <[mors]> mostly VPN
[16:13] <Daskreech> So it happens for multiple programs?
[16:14] <[mors]> seems it's only network
[16:14] <[mors]> I'm using gnome network manager because the kde one doesn't allow me to set routes
[16:14] <friese> hi guys, i have a strange problem
[16:16] <friese> i have a t60p laptop with fireglv5200, kubuntu 10.10 and the opensource radeon driver. the internal display is 1400x1050. when i connect a externel display over vga to it(1680x1050) and configure it with xrandr or kde systemsettings, it works in expanded mode. if i set it up to only show picture on the external monitore, it doesnt work in native resolution. it shows me some things double, hard to describe... if  run it on 1024x768 it works ok
[16:19] <him> hay
[16:22] <Daskreech> [mors]: Hmm alright not quite sure. Could you ask in #plasma ?
[16:23] <him> hay can any one tell me why my daisy being crashed
[16:24] <Daskreech> Daisy?
[16:24] <him> ya
[16:35] <apparle> guys, I have messed the file associations such that, man:<something> in krunner opens with firefox, how to change it to rekonq
[16:41] <Daskreech> apparle: change the html back to rekonq?
[16:41] <apparle> Daskreech: I want firefox to remain my default browser
[16:41] <apparle> Daskreech: only man, because it doesn't work well in firefox
[16:42] <Daskreech> the overall system doesn't really care about how you get the file Just what to do with it at the end
[16:43] <Daskreech> getting something by man: is the same as getting it from http://
[16:43] <Daskreech> but as you said Firefox is confused by man:
[16:44] <Daskreech> How do you open man: links ?
[16:45] <him_> hay can any one help my daisy is being crashed
[16:52] <apparle> Daskreech: I've to hurry, will continue later... sorry and thanks for help
[17:08] <Daskreech> him_: what's your daisy?
[17:38] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[17:43] <phoenix_firebrd> How to read the S.M.A.R.T of my harddisks?
[17:44] <AMDphreak> hey there, people, I need to report a bug, but I don't know the package, and I have a meeting shortly, so can I leave the bug description here?
[17:44] <DarthFrog> AMDphreak: No.
[17:44] <AMDphreak> PS, I'm using a LiveCD
[17:45] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: install smart-notifier and smartmontools.
[17:45] <AMDphreak> it pertains to Kubuntu 10.10 liveCD not being able to install because it keeps trying to read the primary CD (the liveCD) as a place to install.
[17:45] <AMDphreak> /dev/sr0 keeps causing problems
[17:45] <AMDphreak> DarthFrog, cool name, but what guarantee do I have that you aren't troll-answering?
[17:45] <DarthFrog> AMDphreak: We're not Kubuntu developers.  We're just users helping other users.
[17:45] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: will that report the current health status of the harddisk?
[17:46] <AMDphreak> Um, wouldn't it help if more users were aware of the bug?
[17:46] <AMDphreak> not just devs.
[17:46] <phoenix_firebrd> ha ha ha toll
[17:46] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd:  I've used the command line tools of smartmontools to do so.  Never used smart-notifier but it is a graphical hard disk health status notifier.
[17:47] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: ok , i will try that now
[17:47] <AMDphreak> In my experience users....ARE the devs
[17:47] <DarthFrog> And now that I know about it, I'm going to install it myself. :-)
[17:47] <AMDphreak> alot of the time (ok, not all the time)
[17:48] <DarthFrog> AMDphreak: Go to your meeting then fill a proper bug report later.  Make sure you're not filing a duplicate bug.
[17:48] <AMDphreak> I'm not sure where to file this, because I don't know a package to give it to
[17:48] <AMDphreak> er, tie it to
[17:49] <AMDphreak> ...i'll try to figure out the forums. is there a KDE specific forum?
[17:49] <DarthFrog> Yes.  #KDE
[17:49] <AMDphreak> aha eys
[17:49] <AMDphreak> Oh, even an IRC channel. nice
[17:49] <AMDphreak> Thank you
[17:49] <DarthFrog> But they're KDE, not Kubuntu.
[17:49] <AMDphreak> ...darn. I wonder if this is a coreutils problem or a driver problem.
[17:50] <AMDphreak> well, gg. Thanks for the nontrollish answers. sorry, i'm kinda ticked about a moderator on a forum right now (not Linux-related)
[17:50] <AMDphreak> bye guys, and good luck with the disk smart health ops
[17:50] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: i am getting an error. the app is not starting
[17:51] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: what error?
[17:52] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: one min
[17:53] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: http://paste.kde.org/8635/
[17:54] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: That's not an error and your app is running ("ps aux | grep smart").  It's merely a warning
[17:54] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: oh , i will that
[17:55] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: where is the gui?
[17:56] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: i cant see any gui of this app
[17:57] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd:  man smart-notifier
[18:10] <maite> Hola gente :)
[18:22] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: the smart-notifier didnt work for me so i downloaded a cli versio of the seatools(seagate app) for linux and used it
[18:22] <DarthFrog> And?
[18:23] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: it worked, i have done some test on my harddisk and it was fine
[18:23] <DarthFrog> Glad to hear it.
[18:24] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: they had a gui version , but the installed was in rpm
[18:24] <phoenix_firebrd> *installer
[18:24] <jimmy51_> hello, i need to make a bootable DOS usb stick so i can update my BIOS.  any easy way to do that within kubuntu?
[18:25] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: you mean MSdos or PCDos?
[18:25] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: i suspect either would work.
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: there is a app to write bootimages to usb pen drives. i forgot the name, can you give me a min?
[18:26] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: sure, thanks for the help
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: found it
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: its flashboot. http://www.prime-expert.com/flashboot/
[18:30] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: ah, that looks good. i'll give that a try.  thanks!
[18:30] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: download a floppy image of pcdos or freedos and write it using flashboot
[18:30] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: yw
[18:32] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: does suse have a partnership with seagate. why wasnt a deb version of seatools available for download?
[18:32] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: Umm, I'm not privy to the inner workings of any company. :-)
[18:33] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: do we have to be?
[18:34] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: But at a guess, RPM (Redhat Package Manager) is used by Red Hat (obviously) which is the foremost enterprise Linux.  AFAIK, no enterprise-intended Linux uses DEB.
[18:34] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: And you can use "alien" to convert RPM to DEB.
[18:34] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: ya thats right
[18:35] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: doh... that looks like it only runs under windows :(
[18:35] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: ya, thats a windows app
[18:35] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: wine cannot write a MBR
[18:36] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: linux itself can't write it?
[18:37] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: no linux can, but wine has no low level disk write privilege
[18:37] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: ok, so if i'm running kubuntu 10.04 and have a USB flash disk, is there a way to make the flash disk bootable DOS so i can run the BIOS update exe?
[18:38] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: you want a linux app to do that , right?
[18:39] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: hopefully.  i don't have a windows machine, just kubuntu.
[18:40] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: try this http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:41] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: thanks for the help buddy
[18:42] <phoenix_firebrd> jimmy51_: i have to go now , bye
[18:42] <jimmy51_> phoenix_firebrd: i'll try that.  thanks.
[18:57] <RussellAlan> hey guys, on the homescreen how do i add the desktop widget? to display my desktop folder
[19:04] <Mithrandir_> RussellAlan: on the panel or on the desktop?
[19:05] <RussellAlan> on the main screen
[19:05] <Mithrandir_> by Ctrl+F12 will get you all the things on your desktop if you like
[19:05] <Mithrandir_> The login screen?
[19:05] <Mithrandir_> DarthFrog: I think officially RPM stands for RPM package Manager
[19:06] <RussellAlan> no just the widget to display the contents of my Desktop Folder
[19:07] <RussellAlan> control f12 did nothing
[19:08] <Mithrandir_> Click on the button on the far right of hte panel and click on Add widgets. in the search type desktop then double click the one you want
[19:12] <DarthFrog> Mithrandir_: If so, that's a latter-day renaming, like GCC.  I ran Red Hat Mother's Day version and it was definitely called RedHat Package Manager back in the day.
[19:12] <RussellAlan> Mithrandir_,  it just has show desktop
[19:12] <Mithrandir_> Mother's day?
[19:12] <DarthFrog> Mithrandir_: I think it was RH 3.03. :-)
[19:12] <RussellAlan> i'm looking for just a widget that contacns the contents of my /home/user/Desktop
[19:13] <Mithrandir_> RussellAlan: Oh I'm sorry. your desktop folder
[19:13] <Mithrandir_> ok Apologies
[19:13] <Mithrandir_> You are looking for the FolderView
[19:13] <Mithrandir_> And you want to drag it to the desktop not doubleclick
[19:14] <DarthFrog> Mithrandir_: No, I'm wrong.  RH Mother's Day was version 1.0.  :-)  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History
[19:14] <RussellAlan> Mithrandir_, : indeed thank you my friend
[19:41] <ubuntu> hi to everybody
[19:41] <ubuntu> i have a q that is ((how can i partishen my hard in kubuntu))
[19:42] <ubuntu> and what is code of delet in kubuntu?
[19:43] <Mithrandir_> what is a delet?
[19:44] <ubuntu> deleat
[19:44] <ubuntu> kill some file
[19:48] <DjangoNoob> why does my kubuntu forget that i have set up multiple monitors? is there an easy solution? thanks.
[19:50] <vic> howdy all
[19:51] <vic> where i can see my file system boot?
[19:51] <vic> kubuntu 10.10
[19:53] <areichman> DjangoNoob: you're using kubuntu 10.10
[19:53] <areichman> ?
[19:53] <DjangoNoob> yes
[19:54] <gomiboy> vic: you mean the boot log?
[19:54] <DjangoNoob> actually ubuntu 10.10 but i have installed kde plasma desktop and set it as default, rebooted many times, no better
[19:54] <DjangoNoob> areichman, i have ibm t60 laptop and intel display graphics
[19:54] <areichman> DjangoNoob: have you installed kde 4.6.x or are you on the stock 4.5.x?
[19:55] <DjangoNoob> areichman, dunno. how can i check?
[19:55] <areichman> it would have been a process to upgrade to 4.6. If you haven't added a repository specifically for it and then installed it from the package manager you haven't done it
[19:55] <areichman> and that's why multiple monitors aren't saved
[19:56] <DjangoNoob> areichman, in the new kde, the monitors are saved?
[19:56] <areichman> 4.5 doesn't have the ability to save multiple monitor configurations. Or if it does, there's no interface for it. 4.6 can do it but it's a bit of work to install it
[19:56] <areichman> and might make your system less stable
[19:56] <DjangoNoob> oh great........... :S
[19:57] <areichman> haha, I wish I had better news for you
[19:57] <areichman> I can tell you that I have 4.6 installed here and it's a good upgrade. Nothing major, for me at least, got borked. But your experience may be different
[19:58] <DjangoNoob> can I install it via apt-get?
[19:59] <vic> none, i mean file boot
[19:59] <areichman> yes, if you add the repository that contains it
[19:59] <areichman> DjangoNoob: here are instructions for it: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6.1
[19:59] <areichman> it's a pretty simple process
[20:05] <gomiboy> vic: please elaborate... there is no "file boot", there is a directory /boot but if you can explain us what you have to do, we'll help :)
[20:13] <vic> I want to find out what processes run at startup
[20:15] <sithlord48> hi #kubuntu .
[20:15] <sithlord48> the KFN page is once again "service unavilible"
[20:21] <gomiboy> vic: in /etc/rc2.d/ are most of the symbolic links to the services that run at system startup
[20:22] <vic> gomidoy: thanks :)
[20:23] <DjangoNoob> areichman, I updated to new KDE and it still doesnt remember multiple monitors :(
[20:23] <areichman> DjangoNoob: open up system settings
[20:24] <areichman> in the Hardware Section, click Display & Monitor
[20:24] <areichman> arrange everything the way you want and then, in the Size & Orientation section, click Save as Default
[20:24] <sithlord48> djangonoob how are you tring to set it, and do u have a properiatary driver instaleld?
[20:25] <areichman> Next time you restart it should remember your settings
[20:26] <DjangoNoob> sithlord48, i have the driver that came with the linux, and intel display adapter
[20:27] <DjangoNoob> areichman, there is no button "set as deafult". maybe "defaults", but its grayed out...
[20:28] <areichman> it's been there in mine since I upgraded to 4.6.1 and that's what I had to do to make it remember my multiple monitor settings... I'm not sure why it wouldn't be there
[20:29] <DjangoNoob> maybe i didnt upgrade.......... how can i check?
[20:29] <DjangoNoob> i addet ppa
[20:29] <sithlord48> for my mulitmonitor neeeds the only problem i ever has is they get set to the same res.
[20:29] <DjangoNoob> and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade...
[20:29] <sithlord48> open dolphin or any kde program and use help-> about kde
[20:30] <DjangoNoob> Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1
[20:30] <DjangoNoob> sorry
[20:30] <gomiboy> DjangoNoob: did you restart your session?
[20:30] <DjangoNoob> it's not new, yes
[20:30] <DjangoNoob> yes
[20:30] <DjangoNoob> wait
[20:31] <DjangoNoob> i think i'll manage
[20:31] <DjangoNoob> 146 not upgraded packages :)
[20:31] <sithlord48> i would start there lol
[20:31] <DjangoNoob> :)
[20:31] <gomiboy> DjangoNoob: i haven't upgraded to 4.6, but maybe you have to apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:31] <gomiboy> ther :)
[20:32] <areichman> don't dist-upgrade
[20:32] <areichman> I think that's a very different process. Just upgrade the packages that need to be upgraded
[20:33] <gomiboy> it's mandatory yo upgrade to kde 4.6 afaik
[20:33] <gomiboy> *to
[20:33] <sithlord48> why not dist-upgrade i always do taht
[20:33] <sithlord48> if you have packages that need to be removed by newer ones you have to do a dist-upgrade
[20:35] <areichman> really? I've never dist-upgraded before
[20:36] <areichman> I assumed it was to upgrade the entire distribution and I just wanted to update one part or particular packages
[20:36] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[20:37] <areichman> interesting
[20:38] <bigbrovar> anyone knows if Kubuntu 11.04 beta has been released?
[20:38] <bigbrovar> words on the street is that Ubuntu 11.04 beta has been released
[20:38] <bigbrovar> am about to head to bed and was hoping to leave my laptop to download it before going to bed
[20:48] <genii-around> bigbrovar: Sometime before midnight in Greenwich
[20:50] <skramer_> anybody else got problems with akonadi after latest update to version 1.5.1?
[20:52] <sithlord48> don't know about 11.04 beta but i had ~ 30 updates this morning for my natty box
[20:53] <skramer_> Kontact always gives me an error notification regarding akonadi, which has not been the case up to version 1.5.0
[21:01] <DjangoNoob> i have updated to new kde. i set up multiple monitors and clicked save as default. it does not remeber at reboot though :(
[21:03] <divi_> Heya, anyone have any idea why my sounds disappear within 2-5 minutes after boot. Using Kubuntu 10.10, fresh install yesterday. Audio interface is E-MU 1212m
[21:04] <divi_> the system still seems to recognize the device (i think)
[21:43] <Thinkerer68> Oh noes! KFN is down!  :-(
[21:44] <areichman> What's KFN?
[21:44] <Thinkerer68> KubuntuForums.Net
[21:54] <genii-around> Thinkerer68: Well, whois shows that their domainname is not expired yet :) But "Service Unavailable" generally means a 503 error, which is that apache or so is not running. Maybe they had a crash or so
[21:55] <Thinkerer68> Agree. I'm also getting "Service Unavailable".
[22:15] <naomi_> Is there any way to get custom emotes on Empathy?
[22:17] <Ratchetman> Ping room
[22:18] <Ratchetman> Anyone active?
[22:19] <genii-around> Ratchetman: Beeter to just say what kubuntu problem you may be having, so that someone may try to help :)
[22:19] <naomi_> genii-around: do you know how do get custom emotes on empathy?
[22:20] <genii-around> naomi_: Nope. I use quassel
[22:20] <naomi_> genii-around: and that had custom emotes? i was using amsn til it kept freezing on me. so i used empathy but i dont like it. can i sudo apt-get install quassel?
[22:21] <Ratchetman> I've been having an issue with Firefox. Origionally I downloaded 3 and when I found on the Kubuntu forum a stable version of 4 and it worked for a day before it wouldn't load or anything.
[22:22] <genii-around> naomi_: I don't think it has that feature much. Although you could probably just write little aliases to something like: /me does this thing and that thing!
[22:22] <genii-around> !ff4
[22:25] <Ratchetman> Oh yeah that was the code I used to get it in the first place. I should save that! Thanks
[22:28] <Ratchetman> Does anyone have a recommendation of a good download or website of commands for the konsole?
[22:38] <vic> where i can find inetd.conf?
[22:39] <tsimpson> vic: in /etc, if you have an inetd installed
[22:40] <vic> ok, thanks ) i didn't installed
[22:41] <tsimpson> there are several, like xinetd, openbsd-inetd, inetutils-inetd, micro-inetd, and maybe others
[22:41] <tsimpson> all basically do the same job
[22:51] <TNZ_> hi all
[22:52] <TNZ_> INFO for Radeon desktop : Catalyst 11.3 are quite good
[22:53] <TNZ_> I just switched in rendering accurate mode & it's great and responsive (and it's nice for the eyes)
[22:53] <TNZ_> bye
[22:59] <Ratchetman> So was that an advertisement to download the new catalyst? lol
[23:10] <Ratchetman> Would commands written for Ubuntu still work on Kubuntu?
[23:11] <marxjohnson> Ratchetman: for the command line?
[23:11] <marxjohnson> if so, yes
[23:11] <Ratchetman> Ok, thank you. Please excuse my noobliness.
[23:12] <marxjohnson> no problem
[23:12] <marxjohnson> Kubuntu is exactly the same system underneath, it just has different GUI applications
[23:13] <Ratchetman> Ok so any of the programs that are compatible with one are compatible with both, correct?
[23:13] <marxjohnson> yes
[23:13] <genii-around> Pretty much
[23:14] <naomi_> I had an old wallpaper with the wallapaper as cube caps too. I've changed my wallpaper and deleted my cube caps but on my cube they still show up. How do I get rid of them? I've tried deleting but they're still there.
[23:15] <maco> naomi_: i think #ubuntu's more likely to know, since people here tend not to use Compiz (the thing giving you the cube)
[23:15] <Ratchetman> Cool! Off to DL some games.
[23:17] <Ratchetman> One more question. I had registered my nick and used the code from the email. Is anything supposed to happen to confirm it's been completed?
[23:17] <Thinkerer68> Ratchetman: http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html
[23:18] <Thinkerer68> Ratchetman: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[23:18] <Thinkerer68> Ratchetman: http://tille.garrels.be/training/bash/
[23:19] <Thinkerer68> Ratchetman: http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.html
[23:19] <Thinkerer68> hth
[23:19] <Thinkerer68> http://linux.die.net/
[23:20]  * Thinkerer68 away
[23:20] <Ratchetman> Thanks a lot Thinkerer68!
[23:21] <Thinkerer68> np. there are a heck of a lot more i use, but those are probably the most important ones
[23:21] <Thinkerer68> ah, one more
[23:21] <Thinkerer68> http://www.tldp.org/
[23:23] <Ratchetman> Woot more information!
[23:32] <yoyo> ty Thinkerer68
[23:37] <Thinkerer68> Ratchetman, yoyo: dont forget to try "help COMMANDNAME", "COMMANDNAME --help", "man COMMANDNAME", "info", and "apropos TOPIC"
[23:41] <Thinkerer68> Ratchetman, yoyo: There is also the RUTEBook http://rute.2038bug.com/
[23:43] <Ratchetman> Wow I didn't know so much documentation was out there. Now if they could make it in an audio format so I could learn in the car while I drive or something.