| cg2916 | how do I make it so that the grub shows the menu on startup instead of the command line? | 00:09 |
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| pmp6nl | a | 00:40 |
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| Jon-- | Is Unity the default window manager for Ubuntu 11.04? Will Gnome2 continue to be well supported, and how easily is it to use GNOME instead, of Unity is the default? | 01:28 |
| trism | Jon--: unity is the default, but you can select classic gnome on the login screen | 01:29 |
| Jon-- | trism, And this is GNOME2? Does it include all the packages that, say, 10.04 include? | 01:30 |
| trism | Jon--: I haven't used it much, but it doesn't seem any different from previous ubuntu desktops | 01:31 |
| Daekdroom | Jon--, it does use GNOME 2.32 | 01:40 |
| Daekdroom | libgtk3 is available, but not used by default. | 01:40 |
| johnjohn101 | do you think someone will package gnome 3 for 11.04? | 01:41 |
| Daekdroom | johnjohn101, it's currently available through a PPA, but not very stable. | 01:49 |
| Daekdroom | https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 | 01:49 |
| johnjohn101 | thanks | 01:49 |
| johnjohn101 | i'm going to probably wait a few iterations before moving to different uis | 01:50 |
| Blue1 | will gnome be available with the next ubuntu, or am I stuck with unity? | 03:23 |
| nit-wit | Blue1, you can have xfce, xubuntu, openbox, fluxbox, ubuntu classic, kde, and other desktops | 03:29 |
| nit-wit | gnome and gnome 3 as well | 03:30 |
| Blue1 | gnome-desktop? | 03:34 |
| charlie-tca | You can choose classic-desktop at login which is the gnome desktop that you are used to | 03:38 |
| aberhow | it's got to be march 31st somewhere right? I need muh beta... | 04:54 |
| frewsxcv | my ubuntu 11.04 is getting stuck at cheking battery state | 04:55 |
| linux-noob | what is the default FS in Natty ?? btrfs or EXt3 | 05:52 |
| linux-noob | what is the default FS in Natty ?? btrfs or EXt4 | 05:53 |
| linux-noob | what is the default FS in Natty ?? btrfs or EXt4 | 05:54 |
| aberhow | 4 | 05:55 |
| aberhow | linux-noob: btrfs hasn't even been released as stable yet | 05:56 |
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| SwedeMike | aberhow: I thought it had, but reading up shows you're right, but the btrfs authors said that there won't be any more on-disk design changes anymore... but I am very conservative about filesystems, I usually wait at least 2 years after stable before starting to use it :P | 06:18 |
| aberhow | SwedeMike: yea I wouldn't trust any "new" filesystems for a while, and i'm pretty sure Ubuntu wouldn't trust it as a default either. | 06:19 |
| SwedeMike | I sure hope so. | 06:20 |
| jonsaint | hi all. does anyone know when the next ubuntu is out?? i know its april but is there a release date? | 07:53 |
| rww | !schedule | 07:54 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Natty Narwhal (11.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | 07:54 |
| jonsaint | many thanks | 07:54 |
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| Trron | will there be overlay scrollbars by default in natty? | 08:06 |
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| === SethP is now known as |Seth| | ||
| fireboy | hi :) I'm with kubuntu with intel graphics driver, and it seems compositing has got a problem. When I activate desktop effects, I get a message saying they cant be activated, and that I should check my X config. Any clue what could be the problem ? | 08:59 |
| susundberg | Is it even supposed to work? | 09:00 |
| fireboy | works with maverick | 09:01 |
| susundberg | dont know, you would need to debug what is going wrong, or search for open bug .. | 09:05 |
| fireboy | my guess is that I'm missing a little bit of conf or something, but what could it be ? | 09:05 |
| susundberg | Well that might be the case but it really should work 'out-of-box' | 09:06 |
| susundberg | while waiting for someone more skilled to help you, you might want to read: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/628930 | 09:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 628930 in mesa (Ubuntu) "[i945GME] KDE Desktop effects not active by default" [High,Incomplete] | 09:07 |
| fireboy | dont think thats relevant, quite old | 09:12 |
| trijntje | Hi all, will there be a notification in this channel when the beta is released today, or is there some other place I should watch? | 10:58 |
| susundberg | you can always download daily image | 11:06 |
| coz_ | good day all | 11:24 |
| susundberg | hello | 11:29 |
| |Seth| | 'lo susundberg | 11:35 |
| |Seth| | oh wait | 11:35 |
| * |Seth| facepalms | 11:35 | |
| Ian_ | how come the fglrx driver doesn't show up in jockey yet? | 11:36 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, libraries won't be in /usr/lib/ anymore ? | 11:59 |
| susundberg | I some parts will be there as it used to be.. | 12:00 |
| susundberg | at least i haven't heard anything else.. | 12:00 |
| susundberg | what makes you suspect that? | 12:00 |
| AnAnt | susundberg: debian bug #620122 | 12:01 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 620122 in libjna-java "libjna-java: JNA does not support multi-arch system library paths" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/620122 | 12:01 |
| AnAnt | see the post of James Page | 12:01 |
| susundberg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec | 12:03 |
| susundberg | Ok, so i learned something new .. seems like they are really going to move the lib path | 12:04 |
| susundberg | But as James writes "has started to make the transition" .. that might take a while i guess .. | 12:05 |
| ohsix | its taken 5 years | 12:07 |
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| LiJunLe | has beta1 released now ? | 12:48 |
| alkisg | How can I say "aptitude why ntp" in a default Natty installation? (i.e. the equivalent apt-get line)? | 12:53 |
| susundberg | same way you could in maveric i guess .. | 12:58 |
| susundberg | what do you want to do? | 12:58 |
| susundberg | install, remove query package ntp? | 12:58 |
| alkisg | susundberg: in Lucid aptitude is preinstalled, so I supposed that in Natty something else would do the same function as `aptitude why` | 13:12 |
| alkisg | E.g. `aptitude changelog` has been implemented as `apt-get changelog` | 13:12 |
| alkisg | Yes, I want to see why some package was installed (manually, as a dependency etc) | 13:13 |
| susundberg | oh, you might want to read the apt-get manpage? Or install aptitude? | 13:17 |
| susundberg | don't know sorry. | 13:18 |
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| jacco | Beta1 not available yet? | 13:44 |
| richthegeek | !topic | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 13:45 |
| BUGabundo | jacco: join the announce mailinglist | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo | and you will get an email when its out | 13:46 |
| jacco | BUGabundo: thanks, I'll do that, link on testing page is frustrating me... | 13:47 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 13:47 |
| BUGabundo | get a daily | 13:47 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: any idea if Canonical is shipping 10.04.2 CDs, or are those still 10.04? | 13:48 |
| kklimonda | or anyone? | 13:49 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 13:49 |
| jacco | Wanted to read release notes, but if I can't wait I'll get a daily anyway | 13:49 |
| BUGabundo | email them | 13:49 |
| kklimonda | it's pretty OT for the channel, but then I'm not sure where to ask about it ;) | 13:49 |
| BUGabundo | at shipit@ | 13:49 |
| kklimonda | good idea | 13:49 |
| BUGabundo | usually you get a fast reply | 13:49 |
| jacco | Joined the announce list, save canonical some refresh bandwidth, thank BUGabundo | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | hiyas | 14:07 |
| BUGabundo | hey | 14:07 |
| BluesKaj | hi BUGabundo supposedly the beta 3 is coming down the pipe today ..haven't seen anything yet. | 14:10 |
| BluesKaj | err Alpha 3 | 14:11 |
| BUGabundo | beta1 | 14:11 |
| kklimonda | Beta1 | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | oops scuse my mistake , the greek letter and number :) | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | next | 14:12 |
| kklimonda | I haven't heard of any problems, so it should be released today as planned. | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | odd , suddenly I have 2 dropbox icons in the taskbar | 14:13 |
| BUGabundo | mine is gray | 14:15 |
| BUGabundo | no idea why | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | I'm on kde so using kfilebox , which shows as such , but the other icon is plain dropbox ..weird | 14:17 |
| BUGabundo | got a code for 25% off on a Fonera 2.0. get it's the fastest one to reply :D | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | /var/cache/apt/archives/ ..gonna look | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | wow, lotsa old gnome apps from previous installsin that file | 14:21 |
| ceed^ | Hi, Anyone know if the ia32 vs Flash problem from yesterday has been fixed through updates? I am running an older ia32 until I know it's been fixed. | 14:22 |
| BUGabundo | I'm half fine here cee | 14:23 |
| BUGabundo | I had probs with audio | 14:23 |
| BUGabundo | and some videos in fullscreen | 14:23 |
| shrodes | pretty sure it is fixed | 14:23 |
| shrodes | with ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu11_amd64.deb | 14:23 |
| shrodes | according to: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/gepwu/for_those_of_you_running_1104_who_had_flash_stop/ anyway | 14:23 |
| ceed^ | Well, I'll give it a try! :) | 14:24 |
| ceed^ | Oh, that's the fix using an older ia32, right? | 14:24 |
| ceed^ | I see it now, it seems to have been fixed. thanks! | 14:25 |
| shrodes | no worries | 14:25 |
| sacha | hey guys | 14:25 |
| sacha | i was testing out the daily build on march 30 and everything was working perfect. it was awesome. except i accidently made my boot partition 'btrfs' and grub didnt like that. i got the march 31 daily build and installed that but with ext2 boot this time.. now things went haywire! | 14:26 |
| sacha | first up, it just boots to black screen so i have to manually run 'startx'. then -- there's no unity anymore? it's running gnome? | 14:27 |
| sacha | vgaswitcheroo has disappeared so im guessing this has something to do with the new 11.4 catalyst build right? | 14:28 |
| ceed^ | sacha: I've run btrfs on a couple of laptops. it's fast, but it's buggy. and a buggy file system is a certain way to disaster. | 14:28 |
| sacha | what sort of bugs ceed^? | 14:28 |
| ohsix | the great unknown | 14:29 |
| sacha | bad to use it for /home? | 14:29 |
| ohsix | there are real bugs, but no real assurances that its fir for purpose, yet | 14:29 |
| ceed^ | sacha: sudden data read errors. i suddenly had an unreadable partition. just disk spinning and numbers on the screen. | 14:29 |
| ohsix | if /home is where you store important files, no :D | 14:29 |
| sacha | oh :( what's good for my intel ssd then? back to ext4? | 14:30 |
| ceed^ | sacha: Very bad for home. I ran it as / | 14:30 |
| sacha | im running it as / right now :\ | 14:30 |
| BUGabundo | I have my all disk on ssd with btrfs | 14:30 |
| BUGabundo | without any stress | 14:30 |
| BUGabundo | only have /boot on extfs | 14:30 |
| arand | It's been working fine for me, untill I started messing about with ma snapshots to do a rollback, but that was mainly due to misunderstandings and missing feauter which I expected to exist, I reckon | 14:32 |
| sacha | yeah same here. that's no good? | 14:32 |
| ceed^ | It worked flawlessly for me for almost two months. then I had one partition die. on the other laptop files began to dissapper. never had problems like that with any file system. there's no real way to repair btrfs yet either | 14:32 |
| sacha | oh yeah, reminds me.. ubuntu complains that it can't find a btrfs.fsck every time it boots up -- that's normal? | 14:32 |
| ceed^ | yea | 14:32 |
| arand | Well, from what I've heard, btrfs isn't meant to fail in the first place with it's cow magic ;) | 14:33 |
| arand | *meant* | 14:33 |
| sacha | the cow magic might interfere with ubuntu's cow magic | 14:33 |
| sacha | so im just wondering.. did unity disappear today? or is it because i used 'startx'? | 14:34 |
| arand | Drivers not working? Does it work better if you instead start gdm? | 14:35 |
| sacha | yeah but dont know why drivers worked in mar 30 build and not mar 31 build | 14:36 |
| sacha | it gets confusing because i have switchable graphics (an intel core i5 and an amd 5650) | 14:36 |
| arand | Well, it's definitely material for a bug report. | 14:36 |
| sacha | but this march 31 build doesn't seem to have vga_switcheroo (mar 30 one did) | 14:36 |
| sacha | coincidentally, fglrx (proprietary graphics) came out with a special 11.4 version for ubuntu 11.04 yesterday. it includes powerxpress or something that does the same thing as vga_switcheroo | 14:37 |
| sacha | and im guessing it's broken because they are swapping them | 14:37 |
| sacha | cause i chose option to install proprietary drivers when i installed | 14:38 |
| sacha | glxinfo is giving me segfault today :( | 14:39 |
| xapel | is the beta still being released today? | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | should so | 14:47 |
| xapel | what about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/banshee/+bug/604699 | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 604699 in banshee (Ubuntu) "Music purchased from the Ubuntu One Music Store does not appear in music library" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:47 |
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| pmatulis | amorphous1: o/ | 14:49 |
| amorphous1 | pmatulis, hello | 14:50 |
| pmatulis | amorphous1: good to be here while running pre-release, check topic before upgrades... | 14:50 |
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| ceed^ | My major natty gripe is that Google Calendar currently won't work with Evolution. | 14:54 |
| sacha | anyone notice that, in the daily build today, the search button doesn't seem to work on the home page? | 14:54 |
| sacha | on about:startpage | 14:55 |
| arand | Yea, I saw that as well on 30th I tihnk | 14:57 |
| sacha | i wonder how something like that happens :P they really change search button? | 14:57 |
| sacha | is there an official way to get compress=lzo in 11.04 from the live cd? | 15:11 |
| sacha | that is, before it installs itself | 15:11 |
| wolter | is the beta out yet? | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 15:18 |
| BUGabundo | wolter: /topic | 15:18 |
| BUGabundo | join the announce mailinglist, and you will get an email when its out | 15:18 |
| wolter | BUGabundo, yes I am aware of the topic LOL | 15:19 |
| wolter | it says march 31 is the date for the beta in the release schedulel, am i wrong? | 15:19 |
| BUGabundo | !date | 15:20 |
| BUGabundo | Thu Mar 31 15:20:09 WEST 2011 | 15:20 |
| BUGabundo | you still have ~9h left :P | 15:20 |
| richthegeek | expect beta1 to land around 8pm UCT | 15:21 |
| richthegeek | *UTC | 15:22 |
| wolter | oh :S | 15:23 |
| mu3en | will there be another truck load of package updates beyond the rolling updates so far? many things look good (apart from a naggy suspend/resume kernel issue here. similar to something a few releases ago which was a "mistaken" warning it turned out.) | 15:24 |
| richthegeek | that could be as much as 4 hours off though - as early as 16:00UTC or late as 23:59 UTC | 15:24 |
| richthegeek | there are a bunch of bugs with unity that hopefully will get fixed in this release - ideally the final month (beta1->rc in old terms) would be polish.. but I suspect a lot of it (beta1->beta2->release) will be full-on bugfixing | 15:26 |
| pmatulis | fg | 15:27 |
| ohsix | if i haven't seen a package push in the last 24hours am i already using beta? it's a rolling upgrade install | 15:31 |
| ohsix | or is there going to be one big dump at 8pm UTC | 15:31 |
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| BluesKaj | I'm looking for a NAS device that runs on linux ..any suggestions | 15:39 |
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| iceroot | BluesKaj: ##hardware would be a good place | 15:45 |
| gnomefreak | ok this is getting old now. my connection has been slow as crrap since monday. last night at 7pm it worked as it should, fast but now its back to a crawl. i guess i call att today | 15:46 |
| gnomefreak | 18% [35 Sources 885 kB/4390 kB 20%] for example | 15:47 |
| gnomefreak | and i cant get speedtest page to open at all for the last 3days | 15:48 |
| Dr_Willis | Been fighting trying to get flash to actually install on this upgraded system. :) | 15:49 |
| Dr_Willis | keep getting some coredump during the install process of some related packages. | 15:50 |
| Dr_Willis | !flash | 15:50 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 15:50 |
| gnomefreak | Dr_Willis: flash has been having issues. i had it installed but it stopped working i ended up reinstalling it after running clean and purge and it fixed it | 15:51 |
| gnomefreak | on 32bit | 15:52 |
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| Dr_Willis | Upgraded 64bit box here. nspluginwrapper keeps coredumopng so it cant even try ti install the flash | 15:52 |
| Dr_Willis | Looking for plugins in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins | 15:52 |
| Dr_Willis | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 15:52 |
| drc | I've read/heard that the proprietary Nvidia drives are/were hit and miss with the Alpha releases. Will they/it be functional and stable for the beta releases? | 15:52 |
| Dr_Willis | there we go.. cleaned out the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins dir.. and it isntalled.. now to see if it worked. | 15:53 |
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| gnomefreak | Dr_Willis: yes before release they will be. atm it is the upgraded versions we are waiting for. IIRC its due to the new/revised API of X | 15:54 |
| gnomefreak | opps | 15:54 |
| gnomefreak | drc: see my comment to Dr_Willis i meant it for you. also read the link in the topic related to the new Xorg stack | 15:55 |
| drc | gnomefreak: thanks | 15:55 |
| * drc really should read the topics...if he didn't turn them off by default :) | 15:56 | |
| linux_ | i look for the ubuntu 11.04 beta 1 | 15:57 |
| drc | gnomefreak: Tha X.org url is 2 months old...I assume that the information there is still relevant? | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo | linux_: join the announce mailinglist, and you will get an email when its out | 15:58 |
| linux_ | where can join | 16:00 |
| ohsix | drc: the freeze is a good time for them to act, but that doesn't mean it'll be there | 16:01 |
| linux_ | Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | !mailinglist | 16:01 |
| gnomefreak | drc: to be sure you may need to read the follow up comments but i havent heard of it changing yet | 16:01 |
| gnomefreak | ok it seems i need to call ISP and see WFT is going on | 16:02 |
| drc | ohsix gnomefreak: I read the one followup I cound find (same date), thanks...Note to self: Patience is a virtue! | 16:02 |
| ohsix | Dr_Willis: nspluginwrapper is vile D: it's never worked properly for me regardless of the distro, and for flash in particular it breaks wmode; if you can stomach checking for updates installing the native 64bit plugin is great | 16:03 |
| shrodes | !mailinglist | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | bbl | 16:04 |
| Dr_Willis | ohsix: its working fine for me now. | 16:05 |
| Dr_Willis | Watching 'Ramen Fighter Miki' on Crackle.com :) | 16:05 |
| ohsix | you should try the native one, it's a treat | 16:06 |
| ohsix | i wish adobe would hurry up and do a release that ubuntu could actually package | 16:06 |
| Dr_Willis | im waiting for HTML5 to kill off flash befor that happens. | 16:06 |
| meganerdca | you will be waiting for a very long time | 16:06 |
| Dr_Willis | I can recall when 'realplayer' was the big thing.. and other things that used to be must have/big thangs.. that are now just 'old usta-bees' :) | 16:07 |
| sud0su | how we do to make ubuntu natty to be beatifull ?? | 16:07 |
| sud0su | sorry my english no so good | 16:07 |
| Dr_Willis | sud0su: change your wallpaper.. :) and clarify what you want to change exactly. | 16:08 |
| Dr_Willis | select a theme you like,. | 16:08 |
| meganerdca | either that or there will be another poorly supported browser plugin that will be become nearly a "must have". I have faith in humanity's ability to screw things up :) | 16:08 |
| sud0su | can we change the unity in left to right | 16:08 |
| Dr_Willis | Im still trying to get recordmydesktop to record system sounds.. so i can capture some of these vids to watch n my cellphone. | 16:08 |
| ohsix | i don't remember realplayer ever being a big thing; it's was a "big thing" back then like it's a "big thing" right now, insofar that cspan has some streams that are still in rm | 16:08 |
| Dr_Willis | sud0su: i dont think thats changeable at this time | 16:08 |
| sud0su | Dr_Willis: thanks | 16:09 |
| meganerdca | ohsix: it used to be the way most videos were played on the net | 16:09 |
| Dr_Willis | ohsix: and some Baseball stuff.. but i definatly recall when realplayer as a big name to watch.. bach when Iomega was big. :) | 16:09 |
| coz_ | good day all | 16:09 |
| meganerdca | ah, the good ol days | 16:09 |
| ohsix | meganerdca: the videos i was watching were all with that vivo codec ;] | 16:09 |
| Dr_Willis | back when Quicktime was also a requirement. | 16:09 |
| ohsix | i installed quicktime once to play myst | 16:10 |
| meganerdca | what was Intel's codec, back in the 486 days? Indeo or somethign | 16:10 |
| ohsix | indeo yea | 16:10 |
| meganerdca | 35 is far too young to feel this old | 16:10 |
| ohsix | heh wow, real bought vivo in 98 | 16:10 |
| ohsix | i didn't realize i was on the interwebs watching stuff that early | 16:10 |
| ohsix | i had a bunch of south park episodes in .rm but that was all i pretty much ever used it for | 16:12 |
| ohsix | they were in a vacuum though | 16:12 |
| Dr_Willis | I got 100's of dragon ballz videos in .rm | 16:13 |
| Dr_Willis | For the size of the file. the quality is decent. :) | 16:13 |
| ohsix | for cartoons yea | 16:13 |
| ohsix | the southpark episodes were like 30 megs | 16:13 |
| Dr_Willis | thats all i ever watch basically. :) | 16:13 |
| sud0su | :D | 16:13 |
| meganerdca | I saw my first south park episode as a .rm | 16:18 |
| meganerdca | back when I used photoshop 4 at the University newspaper | 16:18 |
| brobostigon | good afternoon | 16:24 |
| brobostigon | how do i change the ont rendering settings, as i cant find the appearence app, where they usd to be. | 16:24 |
| brobostigon | please. | 16:24 |
| ohsix | i still see them here | 16:29 |
| brobostigon | what is the apps name, so i canstart it from terminal? | 16:30 |
| Dr_Willis | gnome-control-center | 16:31 |
| Dr_Willis | perhaps. | 16:32 |
| brobostigon | ok, let me look. | 16:32 |
| brobostigon | i dont see it. anywhere in there. | 16:33 |
| linux | hi | 16:35 |
| linux | waiting for the ubuntu 11.04 beta | 16:35 |
| meganerdca | ditto | 16:36 |
| * gnomefreak gets the feeling this is going to be a while and most likely disconnect me a few times at the very least | 16:37 | |
| linux | meganerdca do you install it on your main pc | 16:41 |
| unsub | hi folks | 16:43 |
| unsub | a funny thing happened to me on natty today. I had a really bad screen freeze when using VLC on fullscreen and had to do a hard shutdown (im on a macbook5,1). When I logged back in gnome had lost all its setting and the files in ~/{Desktop,Documents,Downloads} have all vanished but files in ~/ are all still there. So I log in using xcfe and I have 2 Desktop folders, 2 Documents folders and 2 Download folders but all are empty. Its probably related to usin | 16:43 |
| unsub | g home folder encryption? | 16:43 |
| unsub | i manually mounted my home folder from another account and the files really are gone | 16:45 |
| unsub | so i looked in my system log and theres nothing, weird, eh? | 16:45 |
| beniwtv | unsub: That's bad :(. Have you tried a fschk? | 16:46 |
| unsub | i havent yet, im on dmcrypt/LUKS | 16:46 |
| meganerdca | linux: I have not been able to get natty installed on my machine | 16:47 |
| unsub | should i run fschk from a live cd? | 16:47 |
| quup | I was looking at the blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/ and sorted by delivery | 16:47 |
| quup | it seems only about 10 out of 170 things are implemented by now | 16:47 |
| quup | is the blueprint not updated? | 16:47 |
| meganerdca | linux: I have 10.10 on my laptop and 10.04 at home, this is a new machine I am putting it on, stupid Sandy Bridge | 16:47 |
| linux | ok | 16:47 |
| beniwtv | unsub: A try could not hurt I suppose. | 16:48 |
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| unsub | beniwtv can you think of a reason why only certain directories were wiped? | 16:50 |
| unsub | im thinking encryptfs over wrote them | 16:50 |
| unsub | ~/movie.avi survived but ~/Downloads/movie2.avi was lost | 16:51 |
| unsub | then i get 2 ~/Download folders which i thought wasnt possible because of duplicate path-names | 16:51 |
| unsub | bbiab | 16:53 |
| needhelp1 | is beta 1 dropped yet | 16:53 |
| meganerdca | unsub: one of the duplicated directories might have a space at the end, which would make it unique | 16:54 |
| === steve_web_mobile is now known as Logan_ | ||
| beniwtv | unsub: I do not think so, ecryptfs works on a file AFAIK, not on the disc | 16:55 |
| ceed^ | crossover linux doesn't show up in applications in unity. I can see all the entries in the Gnome menu. | 16:55 |
| doodoo | at wat tome utc beta will be released? | 16:59 |
| needhelp1 | they usually say it will be released by 23.59 UTC | 17:00 |
| needhelp1 | so anytime today | 17:00 |
| needhelp1 | i keep refreshing this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | 17:00 |
| charlie-tca | It will be announced and the topic will change when it releases | 17:01 |
| needhelp1 | do they usually wait till 23.59? | 17:01 |
| charlie-tca | We usually get the topic changed to re\ | 17:01 |
| charlie-tca | show what milestone we are at. Note it says Alpha3 now. | 17:02 |
| charlie-tca | needhelp1: no, but there is no actual time scheduled to release it | 17:02 |
| needhelp1 | thats fair, i mean if they did say a specific time, i would then ask for the exact second | 17:02 |
| doodoo | hehe | 17:03 |
| doodoo | we all r greedy | 17:03 |
| beniwtv | needhelp1: Probably you would be hitting Ctrl+R so many times the server would crash :P | 17:03 |
| doodoo | wat happens wen we press ctrl+r? | 17:04 |
| needhelp1 | refreshed the page | 17:04 |
| needhelp1 | firefox | 17:04 |
| doodoo | it works :D | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | You should just subscribe to the Ubuntu announcements mailing list, it will come out in an email there | 17:05 |
| needhelp1 | got a link? | 17:05 |
| ChrisBuchholz | I have a problem where ubuntu turns on the mini-jack-in slot on my computer, so the red optic-light is on even though nothing is plugged in. Which package would i report that against :D | 17:07 |
| ChrisBuchholz | woaw, that should have been "?", not ":D"* | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | needhelp1: ^ ^ | 17:08 |
| doodoo | yay its out...beta is out http://goo.gl/q2Pk | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 17:10 |
| charlie-tca | What makes you think the announcement would be youtube? | 17:11 |
| doodoo | narwhals ;D | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | You will see it announced here officially | 17:12 |
| rww | As far as #ubuntu+1 is concerned, it's released when ubuntu-devel-announce@lists.ubuntu.com says it is :) | 17:14 |
| needhelp1 | charlie-tca, rww on the mailing lists, it has an option to receive daily digests, what is this | 17:17 |
| charlie-tca | That means you get a pack of all messages once a day, instead of each message as it comes out | 17:17 |
| needhelp1 | if im subscribing to ubuntu-announce, i should only get like one or two messages right | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | right | 17:18 |
| needhelp1 | alph, beta, and offical release | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | and if you take a digest, you won't get them as they come out, you get them once a day only6 | 17:19 |
| rww | I wouldn't recommend using it, personally, unless it's a high-traffic list that you /never/ reply to. | 17:19 |
| rww | replying if you only get digests is a mess. | 17:19 |
| rww | or rather, replying properly :) | 17:19 |
| needhelp1 | what is mime | 17:20 |
| needhelp1 | im using gmail | 17:20 |
| rww | needhelp1: either way works on that option, you can just leave it set to the default | 17:22 |
| needhelp1 | how can i tell what version of applications are used on alpha3/beta 1 .. i perticually want to see what version of banshee is used. 1.9.6 im assuming | 17:23 |
| mongy | what version gnome2 is natty btw | 17:24 |
| vish | needhelp1: Help » About | 17:24 |
| rww | !version | 17:24 |
| ubottu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | 17:24 |
| vish | rww: he was app versions not Ubuntu | 17:24 |
| needhelp1 | well, im not on alpha or beta | 17:24 |
| vish | wants* | 17:24 |
| rww | vish: There are two sentences in that factoid :) | 17:25 |
| needhelp1 | is there a page that lists the current package versions | 17:25 |
| arand | needhelp1: apt-cache policy banchee as per above | 17:25 |
| vish | ah! | 17:25 |
| zefyr | is the beta out yet? | 17:25 |
| * vish <- short attention span | 17:25 | |
| rww | needhelp1: apt-cache policy packagename for one, dpkg -l for all | 17:25 |
| arand | s/banchee/banshee/ | 17:25 |
| mongy | gnome itself...not apps. | 17:25 |
| needhelp1 | arand, im not on the alpha or beta version | 17:25 |
| needhelp1 | so doing so would show me what version i have, right | 17:26 |
| rww | zefyr: no | 17:26 |
| zefyr | thx rww | 17:26 |
| vish | needhelp1: if you are not using natty then #ubuntu is the place for such questions | 17:26 |
| rww | zefyr: the channel /topic will be updated when it is :) | 17:26 |
| zefyr | ok | 17:26 |
| arand | !packages | needhelp1 | 17:26 |
| ubottu | needhelp1: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! | 17:26 |
| needhelp1 | mass confusion, im on 10.04, i want to know what version of packages are used on 11.04 alpha 3 or beta | 17:27 |
| mongy | will gnome3 make it into natty by release? | 17:27 |
| arand | needhelp1: ^ Online link there can browse versions in natty, or launchpad. | 17:27 |
| rww | mongy: assuming the last email I read about it is still true, no. | 17:27 |
| needhelp1 | arand, thanks | 17:27 |
| needhelp1 | yeah, from what i understand, no gnome 3 | 17:28 |
| beniwtv | I do not really care about gnome-shell, but I had hoped we would get at least new versions of the popular programs? :( | 17:28 |
| arand | Many parts of it is in, yes | 17:29 |
| arand | Since gnome3 isn't all one huge blob... | 17:30 |
| vish | beniwtv: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-January/002740.html | 17:31 |
| beniwtv | vish: Hadn't seen that, thanks | 17:31 |
| needhelp1 | is it that unity and gnome shell is causing issues between the desktop enviroment ? | 17:32 |
| vish | needhelp1: no | 17:32 |
| ChrisBuchholz | I have a problem where ubuntu turns on the mini-jack-in slot on my computer, so the red optic-light is on even though nothing is plugged in. Which package would i report that against ? Must be alsa right? But which package? | 17:40 |
| beniwtv | ChrisBuchholz: I would first check if it is PulseAudio that enables it, else it would be ALSA (probably you could even disable it with alsamixer). | 17:41 |
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| === help is now known as Guest20614 | ||
| incorrect | how often do kernel updates come out? | 17:59 |
| BluesKaj-den | incorrect, good question ... I have no idea, usually with alpha or beta releases afaik | 18:01 |
| BluesKaj-den | I have no idea about the schedule that is since there are some between as well | 18:02 |
| incorrect | i have a bug with the wifi ath9 driver, its been identified and fixed a few weeks ago, so i wondered when i would see it | 18:02 |
| incorrect | will ubuntu 11.04 make april? there seem to be a fair number of issues still? | 18:05 |
| meganerdca | incorrect: there will always be issues | 18:06 |
| incorrect | this is true | 18:06 |
| Dr_Willis | they always seem to manage to pull it off at the end. | 18:07 |
| incorrect | i must admit unity2d is pretty sweet on my netbook | 18:08 |
| meganerdca | the only spare hardware I have right now is sandy bridge based, so I am currently screwed. | 18:09 |
| incorrect | ah so tomorrow is the first beta release, am i likely to see a ton of updates? | 18:10 |
| mongy | how do you run unity2d? | 18:14 |
| skyjumper | anyone else having synaptics touchpad issues? | 18:15 |
| trism | mongy: sudo apt-get install unity-2d and then select it from the Sessions menu when you log in | 18:18 |
| stianhj | IS there an ETA for beta 1? | 18:25 |
| robin0800 | stianhj, when its ready | 18:27 |
| beerios | Does anyone know of a way to get the nvidia-96 drivers working in Natty (amd64)? | 18:31 |
| beerios | I mean, it's theoretically possible if I downgrade the X server, right? | 18:37 |
| skyjumper | beerios: i imagine you'd be stuck with broken dependencies in that case | 18:38 |
| beerios | hmmm | 18:40 |
| remtodd | anyone use new 11.04 | 18:41 |
| beerios | Well I think I'm going to have to reinstall Maverick and stick with it until I get word of confirmed working nvidia-96 drivers. | 18:41 |
| beerios | before I leave, I'll track down the most useful thing I've read about the problem so far, just in case any of you are interested in working on it :) | 18:43 |
| ChrisBuchholz | beniwtv: how would i check if its pulseaudio? also, i can easily disable it with alsamixer, but it always comes back at some point (even though i save the setting with alsactl) | 18:46 |
| meganerdca | beerios: I am installing 10.10 right for that very reason. I have a sandy bridge machine so the onboard intel also does not work. 10.10 with an nVidia for the short term seems like the least painful option | 18:46 |
| beniwtv | ChrisBuchholz: Try the volume control in Gnome, or temporarily remove pulseausio | 18:47 |
| beerios | meganerdca, it's a usual problem with new distros :) 10.10 didn't have working nvidia-96 drivers at first after changes to the X server | 18:48 |
| gyger | I have the newest version of firefox installed(4.0.whatever), but when i run it, it is still the old version (3.6.something-or-other), does anyone have any ideas? | 18:49 |
| meganerdca | beerios: not really that common of a problem, at least in my experience. | 18:52 |
| meganerdca | gyger: type "which firefox" at a command prompt | 18:53 |
| beerios | Ok, finally found that page again... | 18:56 |
| beerios | This should be helpful to someone with more understanding than I have | 18:56 |
| beerios | http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-612956-nvidia-glx-requires-xorg-video-abi-8-0-but-new-xserver-xorg-core-provides-xorg-video-abi-8-help-202235392.html | 18:56 |
| gyger | meganerdca: /usr/bin/firefox | 18:57 |
| meganerdca | gyger: ls -la /usr/bin/firefox | 18:58 |
| meganerdca | gyger: how exactly did you install ff4? | 18:59 |
| zefyr | http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ looks like its out to me | 19:00 |
| beniwtv | 404... | 19:01 |
| gyger | meganerdca: i updated using the software updater that said the package "firefox" was being updated to version 4 point something as mozilla made it available | 19:01 |
| gyger | meganerdca: /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox | 19:01 |
| doodoo | can i upgrade to natty from maverick by running update manager -d | 19:06 |
| beerios | you can definitely try | 19:06 |
| * needhelp1 waits for beta 1 | 19:07 | |
| * needhelp1 is ready to bug hunt | 19:07 | |
| beerios | beta 1 is out | 19:07 |
| * gyger upgraded a LOOONG time ago... enjoying the new stuff | 19:07 | |
| needhelp1 | i didnt get an email from ubuntu-release | 19:07 |
| beerios | Beta 1: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ | 19:07 |
| doodoo | can i upgrade to natty from maverick by running update manager -d | 19:10 |
| yofel | sure | 19:11 |
| yofel | beerios: the isos are up, but the announcement isn't out yet | 19:11 |
| gyger | meganerdca: any ideas? | 19:12 |
| beerios | just a matter of time before the announcements go out | 19:12 |
| beerios | someone probably stopped to have a nice cold beer before hitting "send" ;) | 19:13 |
| yofel | gyger: how did you install the firefox in /opt ? | 19:13 |
| gyger | yofel: i didn't install it manually | 19:13 |
| yofel | gyger: well, you got it somehow, so... ? | 19:14 |
| gyger | yofel: doesn't it come installed by default in ubuntu? | 19:14 |
| yofel | firefox yes, but not in /opt | 19:14 |
| yofel | so if you say that you have '/usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox' then you did something there | 19:15 |
| yofel | gyger: what does 'dpkg -S /opt/firefox/firefox' say? | 19:15 |
| gyger | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /opt/firefox/firefox. | 19:16 |
| yofel | then you installed that manually it seems, try to purge firefox and reinstall it | 19:17 |
| gyger | yofel: sudo apt-get remove firefox ???? | 19:17 |
| gyger | or am i missing something? | 19:17 |
| yofel | sudo apt-get purge firefox | 19:17 |
| gyger | thank you | 19:18 |
| gyger | ok... THAT'S creepy... | 19:19 |
| gyger | ran it... firefox still runs | 19:19 |
| beerios | run it again | 19:19 |
| beerios | lol | 19:19 |
| gyger | beerios: package firefox is not installed, so not removed. | 19:20 |
| * gyger slowly backs away from the possessed laptop | 19:20 | |
| yofel | it probably now uses the one in /opt, no idea how though | 19:20 |
| gyger | is there a way to tell? | 19:20 |
| * yofel doesn't know how to properly remove that either | 19:20 | |
| yofel | hm, you could try 'ps auxw | grep firefox' - that should tell the path | 19:21 |
| gyger | gyger 17916 0.0 0.0 4156 856 pts/3 S+ 13:21 0:00 grep --color=auto firefox | 19:21 |
| yofel | hm... then it's not running | 19:22 |
| gyger | i can go to a command prompt and type "firefox" and a nice, shiny new firefox window opens | 19:23 |
| yofel | what does 'which firefox' say? | 19:23 |
| gyger | /usr/bin/firefox | 19:24 |
| yofel | and that still points to opt? | 19:24 |
| gyger | yup | 19:25 |
| beerios | derp | 19:25 |
| yofel | ... | 19:25 |
| gyger | rmdir? | 19:25 |
| yofel | well, you can try to remove it, but I'm not sure why the link was still there | 19:26 |
| yofel | I have absolutely no experience will manually installed firefox | 19:26 |
| gyger | me either | 19:27 |
| Digits | Is it possible to disable Unity? I'm not too pleased with the new UI design. | 19:27 |
| yofel | sure, select ubuntu classic on login | 19:28 |
| coz_ | hey all | 19:28 |
| Digits | Wow, how did I miss that one? Thanks! | 19:28 |
| yofel | hi coz_ | 19:28 |
| coz_ | yofel, hey guy :) | 19:28 |
| gyger | yofel: i uninstalled the old one | 19:35 |
| gyger | or rather deleted the directory | 19:35 |
| gyger | tried to reinstall from synaptic... | 19:35 |
| gyger | E: firefox: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 | 19:35 |
| gyger | E: firefox-globalmenu: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 19:35 |
| gyger | E: firefox-launchpad-plugin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 19:35 |
| LULLING_HARD | When 10.10 users upgrade to 11.04 what happens to Gnome? Does it get replaced by Unity automatically or is Unity installed alongside Gnome? I am talking about those of us who do upgrades and not fresh installs. | 19:36 |
| yofel | gyger: what's the error before the 'exit status 2' ? | 19:44 |
| gyger | ***Your system has been left in a broken state by a third party package*** | 19:54 |
| gyger | This is usually caused by installing packages from Ubuntuzilla. Fixing this now | 19:54 |
| gyger | dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package | 19:54 |
| gyger | when removing `diversion of /usr/bin/firefox by firefox' | 19:54 |
| gyger | found `local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu' | 19:54 |
| gyger | dpkg: error processing firefox (--configure): | 19:54 |
| gyger | subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 | 19:54 |
| xapel | is it out yet? | 19:57 |
| arand | xapel: no | 19:58 |
| gyger | yofel: i just realized what it is... i had used ubuntuzilla at one point | 20:05 |
| gyger | but i had since removed it | 20:06 |
| LULLING_HARD | anyone, anyone? | 20:18 |
| Tallken_ | nop | 20:19 |
| kangarooo | hello i have made usb live usb from 29.03.2011 11.04 and live makes all black. when i turn off lights in night in dark i can see in monitor something that its loaded and live is working but it made all screen black.. | 20:19 |
| trism | LULLING_HARD: you can select the classic gnome desktop on the login screen, I'm not sure what an upgrade will select by default | 20:20 |
| kangarooo | so i cant see anything. its on emachines laptop. on dell laptop its working | 20:20 |
| kangarooo | emachine is widescreen | 20:20 |
| LULLING_HARD | trism: OK, so Gnome will be there, it's just a matter of selecting it at login? I want to try Unity, so I would prefer both be selectable. | 20:21 |
| trism | LULLING_HARD: yes they will both be there | 20:22 |
| LULLING_HARD | thanks | 20:22 |
| LULLING_HARD | trism: Also, is Wayland going to be in 11.04? | 20:22 |
| trism | LULLING_HARD: no | 20:22 |
| LULLING_HARD | is it planned for 11.10 or is it just sort of a "whenever it gets ready" type of thing? | 20:23 |
| needhelp1 | whats the command to show the full path in nautilis | 20:24 |
| needhelp1 | ALT something or CTRL | 20:24 |
| trism | LULLING_HARD: well, actually I see it in universe, for people to play with I imagine...from what I've heard, it is still along way off though (so I imagine unlikely for 11.10) | 20:24 |
| trism | needhelp1: ctrl+L | 20:26 |
| LULLING_HARD | ok thanks. that's all my questions. As you were. | 20:26 |
| thiebaude | is the 11.04 beta out yet? | 20:26 |
| guntbert | thiebaude: the /topic will tell you: not yet | 20:27 |
| thiebaude | guntbert, thanks :) | 20:27 |
| guntbert | :) | 20:28 |
| ambrosia2 | i just finished downloading it | 20:28 |
| IdleOne | Can someone help me get flash working? | 20:28 |
| IdleOne | flashplugin-nonfree is installed | 20:28 |
| thiebaude | prob time for me to upgrade from 10.10 | 20:28 |
| IdleOne | or is flash broken for everyone? | 20:29 |
| trism | IdleOne: it works here (32 bit though) | 20:30 |
| IdleOne | yeah 64bit here, forgot to mention that | 20:30 |
| thiebaude | ok cya guys later going to do an upgrade, i never had beta problems since 6.06 | 20:30 |
| yofel | IdleOne: there were 64bit nspluginwrapper issues yesterday, but that was failing to install | 20:32 |
| IdleOne | yofel: so there is no fix at this time is what you are telling me :/ | 20:33 |
| yofel | well, I'm not sure, I'm on my EeePC currently (32bit) | 20:33 |
| yofel | as long as you have ia32-libs ...ubuntu11 you shouldn't have yesterdays bug | 20:33 |
| yofel | how does it fail anyway? | 20:34 |
| IdleOne | let me check version on ia32libs | 20:34 |
| IdleOne | just tells me I am missing a plugin when trying to watch video on youtube | 20:34 |
| IdleOne | 35 packages to upgrade...maybe just maybe it will fix itself | 20:35 |
| IdleOne | ia32-libs: | 20:37 |
| IdleOne | Installed: 20090808ubuntu11 | 20:37 |
| IdleOne | well the update didn't help me | 20:39 |
| trism | IdleOne: is it listed in about:plugins? | 20:45 |
| AnAnt | Hello, is the beta1 released yet ? | 20:45 |
| gyger | yofel: any ideas on my problem? | 20:46 |
| yofel | gyger: without the actual error message instead of 'exit status 2' - no | 20:46 |
| gyger | i pasted it... | 20:47 |
| gyger | i thought | 20:47 |
| yofel | gyger: there should be a message before the errors you pasted | 20:47 |
| guntbert | AnAnt: the /topic will tell you: not yet :) | 20:48 |
| gyger | heres the entire thing... | 20:48 |
| gyger | Setting up firefox (4.0~rc2+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) ... | 20:48 |
| gyger | ***Your system has been left in a broken state by a third party package*** | 20:48 |
| gyger | This is usually caused by installing packages from Ubuntuzilla. Fixing this now | 20:48 |
| gyger | dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package | 20:48 |
| gyger | when removing `diversion of /usr/bin/firefox by firefox' | 20:48 |
| gyger | found `local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu' | 20:48 |
| gyger | dpkg: error processing firefox (--configure): | 20:48 |
| gyger | subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 | 20:48 |
| gyger | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of firefox-globalmenu: | 20:48 |
| gyger | firefox-globalmenu depends on firefox (= 4.0~rc2+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu1); however: | 20:48 |
| gyger | Package firefox is not configured yet. | 20:48 |
| gyger | dpkg: error processing firefox-globalmenu (--configure): | 20:48 |
| gyger | dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 20:48 |
| gyger | No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. | 20:48 |
| guntbert | !paste | gyger | 20:48 |
| gyger | Errors were encountered while processing: | 20:48 |
| AnAnt | I see some DVD images on cdimage.ubuntu.com, but no CD images | 20:48 |
| ubottu | gyger: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 20:48 |
| yofel | !pastebin | gyger (next time please...) | 20:48 |
| gyger | firefox | 20:48 |
| ubottu | gyger (next time please...): For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 20:48 |
| gyger | firefox-globalmenu | 20:48 |
| gyger | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 20:48 |
| IdleOne | trism: npwrapper.libflashplayer is in about:plugins | 20:49 |
| Pici | gyger: Please use a pastebin. Don't paste into this channel. | 20:49 |
| yofel | urgh, why the hell does a manual package use dpkg-divert... | 20:49 |
| yofel | *manual install | 20:49 |
| gyger | i don't know | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | n | 20:50 |
| yofel | hey charlie-tca | 20:50 |
| yofel | gyger: can you pastebin the output of 'dpkg-divert --list firefox' ? | 20:50 |
| Pici | !pastebin | 20:50 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | hello, yofel | 20:51 |
| gyger | yofel: theres nothing | 20:51 |
| yofel | gyger: hm... and dpkg-divert --list /usr/bin/firefox ? | 20:52 |
| gyger | local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu | 20:53 |
| tasslehoff | is upgrading via apt from 10.10 to 11.04 likely to work atm? | 20:54 |
| skyjumper | tasslehoff: worked for me the other day | 20:54 |
| tasslehoff | skyjumper: cool. guess I'll take the chance :) | 20:55 |
| skyjumper | keep in mind i wasn't using proprietary drivers tho | 20:56 |
| needhelp1 | OMG ubuntu is reporting that beta 1 is out | 20:56 |
| needhelp1 | still no official updates from ubuntu | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | They always try to beat the official announcements | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | Sometimes as much as two days early, but that doesn't make them right, either. | 20:56 |
| yofel | gyger: hm, you can try 'dpkg-divert --remove /usr/bin/firefox' | 20:57 |
| yofel | if that doesn't work read the manpage and see if you can figure something out.. | 20:57 |
| nperry | Anyone use 1&1? | 20:58 |
| nperry | "INSTANT DOMAIN ACTIVATION" adverts. | 20:58 |
| nperry | When you purchase, "you'll get an email within 24 hours to confirm activation" | 20:59 |
| * gyger does the happy dance | 20:59 | |
| nperry | 4 hours down the road :/ | 20:59 |
| gyger | yofel: THANK YOU! | 20:59 |
| yofel | oh cool ^^ | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | nperry: mine activate within 24 hours using Hostgator. sometimes much quicker than that, too | 21:00 |
| nperry | Humm random tweet from ubuntdevs "er" | 21:00 |
| nperry | 1&1 seemed to be the cheapest for .co.uk | 21:00 |
| nperry | Becuase they did the first year 40p cheaper | 21:01 |
| guntbert | !ot | nperry | 21:04 |
| ubottu | nperry: #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. | 21:04 |
| nperry | Oh my bad, wrong window :) | 21:05 |
| nperry | Only just noticed. | 21:05 |
| guntbert | nperry: I *could* have asked :-) | 21:05 |
| magn3ts | Anyone having any success installing the Natty beta in a VM? | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | VirtualBox, yes | 23:03 |
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| * penguin42 had the alpha install in kvm with a couple of hickups | 23:14 | |
| jfi | magn3ts, natty works fine in virtualbox (with a maverick host) | 23:15 |
| sagredo | hi | 23:17 |
| sagredo | I tried to test natty and I can no longer boot | 23:17 |
| sagredo | into x | 23:17 |
| sagredo | bunch of verticle lines... I try to > startx < and it says fatal error: no screens | 23:17 |
| sagredo | any suggestions? | 23:17 |
| penguin42 | sagredo: What hardware ? | 23:17 |
| sagredo | 2.4c, nvidia geforce 5200fx | 23:18 |
| sagredo | 128MB graphical memory | 23:18 |
| BUGabundo | and its out.... one hour close to mid night :P | 23:18 |
| penguin42 | hmm I don't know Nvidia stuff myself | 23:18 |
| sagredo | is there a new command to start the graphical login | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | startx? | 23:20 |
| sagredo | _new_ | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | service gdm start | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | gdm start | 23:20 |
| sagredo | cool | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | something like that | 23:20 |
| sagredo | command not found | 23:20 |
| penguin42 | sounds more like driver trouble though | 23:20 |
| sagredo | service not recognized | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | assuming you have GDM :P | 23:20 |
| sagredo | hrmmm | 23:21 |
| sagredo | sux for me | 23:21 |
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| penguin42 | BUGabundo: The life clock for this instantiation of this channel is starting to flash red again | 23:22 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 23:23 |
| sagredo | what is the header package for 2-6.35.25-generic kernel? | 23:23 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Reference to 1) The fact that +1 will disappear again in a few weeks and 2) The film Logan's Run | 23:23 |
| sagredo | I am gettign a fail when trying to update that | 23:23 |
| sagredo | what isl ogan's run about | 23:23 |
| genii-around | There's not really a short answer to that one | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: believe it or not, its that part of the year that costs me the most... even if I'm not present as much as I used to , I love you guys, and we are all a big and special family ! | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | life changes, jobs change, interests changes. | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | bur real friends are always there | 23:25 |
| charlie-tca | It's here! Natty Narwhal Beta1 | 23:25 |
| penguin42 | sagredo: OT, see IMDB; classic 60/70's post-apocolyptic sci-fi film - watch it (not the remake) | 23:26 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Natty Beta Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta | Caution: Wubi is broken on the beta images, see http://pad.lv/746257 | ||
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: I got the email 30 min ago LOL | 23:27 |
| sagredo | yo | 23:29 |
| sagredo | how can I update to the beta | 23:29 |
| Pici | sagredo: What are you running now? | 23:29 |
| sagredo | no idea | 23:30 |
| Pici | sagredo: You don't know what release of Ubuntu you are using? | 23:30 |
| sagredo | well | 23:30 |
| sagredo | I tried to update to alpha3 | 23:31 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: are you no longer interested in Ubuntu? Are you all for android these days? :) | 23:31 |
| sagredo | but right after GRUB I get a bunch of verticle lines | 23:31 |
| sagredo | and have to hard restart :/ | 23:31 |
| Pici | !final | 23:31 |
| ubottu | If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Natty Narwhal and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Natty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. | 23:31 |
| charlie-tca | BUGabundo: I been busy! | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | sagredo: lsb_release -a | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: I have, as always had, many interessted | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | for a time my main hobby was Ubuntu | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | till recently Android was it | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | no more either | 23:32 |
| kklimonda | oh | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | plus I'm tired | 23:33 |
| sagredo | looks like | 23:33 |
| sagredo | I made the last minutes of alpha :D | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | I've just been on a roll of bad stuff with some good bits in it | 23:33 |
| sagredo | natty 10.04 dev | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | sagredo: natty 11.04 | 23:34 |
| sagredo | lol | 23:34 |
| sagredo | ya | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: http://p.bugabundo.net/why-why-wont-you-leave-me-alone-murphy-what-h | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | I saw that. Is that the new car? | 23:35 |
| sagredo | okay dudes | 23:36 |
| sagredo | I was going to try to install some xorg experimental drivers but it says dpkg is locked | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: its 3yo... still, my car | 23:37 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: ah, aren't we all tired? All I can think of recently is how to make some money, and how much I suck :) | 23:37 |
| charlie-tca | that was a car in really good shape for 3 years! | 23:38 |
| * penguin42 went for a nice walk by the sea today; takes the mind off sucky stuff | 23:38 | |
| BUGabundo | thanks. I try my best | 23:38 |
| kklimonda | yeah, it does look really nice on those photos, especially on the second one. On the other hand it's dark, and the photo was probably taken with the phone :) | 23:38 |
| charlie-tca | kklimonda: when you come up with the money maker, I would like to know, too. | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: meh... even tuffer for me... no client to work for.. .going on a few interviews but nothing secured! | 23:39 |
| kklimonda | penguin42: yeah, at least the weather is getting better | 23:39 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: bah, at least you have balls to go for interviews. I'm currently at the "holy shit, I'm so screwed, I should probably end it right now" part of getting out of the pretty severe case of depression.. :) | 23:43 |
| penguin42 | ah good way to silence a channel | 23:45 |
| irvie | just FYI banshee doesn't display my ipod in the menu. works in rhythmbox and shows up in nautilus | 23:45 |
| kklimonda | yeah :) | 23:45 |
| irvie | i believe it's a 4th gen 30gb | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: I'll be celebrating that by watching 127 hours movie | 23:46 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: I still can't decide whether the movie is positive or not. I'm not up to for watching some sad stories lately :) | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | most of the month home... I've watched *everything* else I had | 23:47 |
| elias | what could cause my notification area icons to go missing after an upgrade? | 23:48 |
| kklimonda | elias: switching to unity | 23:48 |
| elias | forgot to mention, i'm in gnome (i think) | 23:48 |
| elias | i.e. it looks like it always did, so i'm fairly certain :) | 23:49 |
| elias | just there's four black icons with a red circle where the notification icons were | 23:49 |
| kklimonda | try adding the notification area.. oh, so you have some icons? black icons with a red circle.. try changing the theme | 23:50 |
| elias | any specific theme? | 23:51 |
| kklimonda | some non-ubuntu one with different icon set | 23:52 |
| kklimonda | black icon with a red circle sounds like an icon that shows when you are missing the real icon | 23:53 |
| Wicked | hello all. Will virtualbox guest additions work in the 11.04 beta1? | 23:54 |
| penguin42 | elias: it also sometimes happens if the name of the icon changed - e.g. I think I had it in a change of firefox versions once or more | 23:54 |
| Wicked | i had issues with them in the alpha | 23:54 |
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| elias | hm, changing themes made keyboard and mouse input freeze, had to ssh back into irc | 23:58 |
| elias | that is the mouse cursor moves, just no clicks are registered | 23:58 |
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