[03:17] <Leandrort> hey, can anyone give me some help??
[03:17] <holstein>  
[03:17] <holstein> with?
[03:17] <holstein>  
[03:18] <Leandrort> im really a linux beginner, and i am trying to set up a ubuntu server to route my network connection to my lan
[03:19] <holstein> Leandrort: what?
[03:19] <holstein> you want ubuntu to act as a router?
[03:19] <Leandrort> yes
[03:19] <holstein> did you google that?
[03:19] <holstein> Leandrort: wireless router?
[03:20] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-314932.html
[03:20] <Leandrort> yes, i have a bunch of sites opened here, but my problem is that I want to configure ubuntu to use 2 internet connections to route them to my lan
[03:20] <Leandrort> load ballance...
[03:21] <holstein> http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[03:21] <holstein> OK
[03:21] <holstein> i havent done that
[03:21] <holstein> you might need to track down some server guys for that
[03:21] <holstein> i know #ubuntu-server can be slow
[03:21] <holstein> feel free to camp out here though :)
[03:22] <AndrewMC> perhaps the forums?
[03:23] <Leandrort> yeah, the thing is that I think I maybe too beginner to do something like that, so I thought on hitting the chat here to try and get some cool blog addresses like the one holstein suggested, thanks btw
[03:26] <holstein> Leandrort: you read...
[03:26] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656209
[03:26] <holstein>  ?
[03:26] <holstein> a little dated maybe
[03:26] <holstein> but relevant it seems
[03:27] <kevin5949173> did you say load balancing Leandrort?
[03:28] <kevin5949173> i would think that would be more involved than just setting it up as a router, but router is probably the first step
[03:28] <Leandrort> well, holstein`s last link is exactly what I am looking for...
[03:28] <holstein> yeah, id take it slow
[03:28] <kevin5949173> yeah, looks like it.  i'm reading
[03:28] <holstein> chip away at one thing at a time
[03:29] <holstein> thats not a trivial setup you are going for
[03:29] <holstein> do-able AFAIK
[03:30] <Leandrort> I understand
[03:30] <kevin5949173> hmmm, link doesn't have a solution, really
[03:30] <kevin5949173> they say to use something other than ubuntu
[03:31] <Leandrort> yeah
[03:31] <kevin5949173> i mean, if you have 3 nics, there must be some configuration you would have to do to select them
[03:31] <had_matter> relevant it does seem.
[03:32] <had_matter> this is what I am doing...
[03:32] <had_matter> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[03:32] <kevin5949173> i'm going to read the router one
[03:32] <Leandrort> well, I got some good info from one of holstein`s links, at least to set up a first basic routing with one internet connection
[03:32] <had_matter> this is where I am stuck....
[03:32] <had_matter> Install dnsmasq and ipmasq using the following command
[03:32] <had_matter> # apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq
[03:33] <holstein> had_matter: in what way?
[03:33] <holstein> are you familiar with apt?
[03:33] <holstein> or what that does?
[03:33] <had_matter> package ipmasq is not available...
[03:33] <kevin5949173> i wonder if there's any official documentation on router set up
[03:33] <holstein> hmmm
[03:33] <holstein> does it give you any suggestion about what the pacakge changed to?
[03:33] <had_matter> this may mean the package is missing...
[03:34] <kevin5949173> oh here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[03:34] <holstein> sometimes they get updated
[03:34] <holstein> kevin5949173: yeah, i bet that is more current
[03:34] <had_matter> nope. no reference
[03:34] <kevin5949173> here's another one:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyRouter
[03:34] <had_matter> but it is referred to by another package
[03:35] <holstein> yeah, what package?
[03:35] <holstein> thats probably going to be fine
[03:35] <had_matter> @ me?
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[03:35] <holstein> not sure
[03:35] <holstein> for a minute i was thinking Leandrort = had_matter
[03:36] <had_matter> thats not me
[03:36] <holstein> yeah ;)
[03:36] <holstein> had_matter: but you are trying to install those packages as well?
[03:37] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[03:38] <had_matter> i tried to install both, dnsmasq, ipmasq
[03:39] <kristian-aalborg> a server to stream music from via ssh... what would it cost?
[03:40] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: i got my current server from the charity shop
[03:40] <holstein> it was 10 bucks
[03:40] <kristian-aalborg> not too bad :)
[03:40] <holstein> serving video to multiple clients might be a different story
[03:41] <kristian-aalborg> I'm thinking something a group of people could use... then have a laptop stream from it
[03:41] <holstein> but, unless you got some crazy new networking gear all around the house
[03:41] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: no video, just music
[03:41] <holstein> thats usually the bottleneck
[03:41] <holstein> and any old box will server audio
[03:41] <holstein> serve*
[03:41] <kevin5949173> why not use apache to stream the audio?
[03:42] <holstein> or ampache :)
[03:42] <holstein> !ampache
[03:42] <kevin5949173> that is interesting that ssh could be used
[03:42] <ubot2> Factoid 'ampache' not found
[03:42] <holstein> :/
[03:42] <holstein> not in the repos i guess
[03:42] <kristian-aalborg> I don't have any preferences... I just thought ssh was the obvious thing to do
[03:42] <kevin5949173> i guess i can think of one way
[03:42] <kristian-aalborg> on a WAN
[03:42] <holstein> i used to use freenas
[03:42] <holstein> easy to set up shares to lin win or osx
[03:42] <holstein> ssh
[03:42] <holstein> ftp
[03:43] <holstein> whatever
[03:43] <holstein> a commandline only ubuntu install with SSH would work great though
[03:43] <kristian-aalborg> yes, that was my thought
[03:44] <holstein> i found a P4
[03:44] <kristian-aalborg> what program do you use for playback? I like ncmpcpp....
[03:44] <holstein> 2.4ghz or so
[03:44] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: whatever
[03:44] <holstein> i like VLC
[03:44] <holstein> but, you just mount the ssh share
[03:44] <holstein> and play it in whatever you want
[03:44] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: that's not old, that's what I'm running on right now
[03:44] <holstein> like its local
[03:45] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: well, that would work great
[03:45] <holstein> my last server was a p3
[03:45] <holstein> 900mhz
[03:45] <holstein> i got it at the same charity shop for $15
[03:45] <holstein> years and years ago
[03:45] <holstein> that would be up to the tast as well
[03:45] <kristian-aalborg> that's a good charity shop you have there :)
[03:45] <holstein> task*
[03:46] <kevin5949173> that's a nice charity shop :)
[03:46] <holstein> yeah, we got a coupld of nice goodwill's
[03:46] <holstein> one of them
[03:46] <holstein> not too far from me
[03:46] <holstein> has a seperate computer outlet
[03:46] <holstein> last time i was there
[03:46] <holstein> they had a stack of p4's
[03:46] <holstein> probably 10 of them
[03:46] <holstein> for like 80 bucks a pop
[03:47] <holstein> with fedora pre-installed :)
[03:47] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: you're probably aware that I'm alwas on the lookout for old laptop memory btw
[03:47] <holstein> i see ubuntu boxes there regularly as well
[03:47] <qwebirc3504> hello
[03:47] <had_matter> is ipmasq required for ICS?
[03:47] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: i have some
[03:47] <qwebirc3504> Can I install indicator-sysmonitor (for Natty) in Maverick? Here's the .deb package https://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor/+download
[03:47] <holstein> qwebirc3504: i say, as long as its a deb
[03:47] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: really old stuff... + 10 years?
[03:47] <holstein> and you can find it
[03:47] <holstein> in synaptic
[03:48] <holstein> and know how to get rid of it
[03:48] <holstein> try it
[03:48] <qwebirc3504> :p
[03:48] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: id have to look but i think
[03:48] <kristian-aalborg> I cannot find ram sticks in synaptic, gimme a break :P
[03:48] <kristian-aalborg> no matter how sudo I am...
[03:48] <holstein> sudo apt-get install old-memory ?
[03:48] <holstein> no?
[03:48] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: please do... we can figure out something with paypal
[03:49] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: remind me
[03:49] <kristian-aalborg> np
[03:49] <holstein> i dont think i can put my hands on them tonite
[03:49] <kristian-aalborg> however, one thing I wonder about with an old desktop... is power consumption and noise
[03:50] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: very valid
[03:50] <holstein> part of why i dumped the p3
[03:50] <holstein> noise
[03:50] <holstein> the p4 is not bad
[03:50] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: one of those netbooks would do that too
[03:50] <holstein> if you could find an early eee701
[03:50] <holstein> with the ssd fried
[03:50] <qwebirc3504> holstein: it works fine :)
[03:50] <kevin5949173> it really is ultimately greener to use up old equipment than to produce something that's new i think
[03:51] <holstein> boot a USB drive on it
[03:51] <kristian-aalborg> I just got rid of one... actually had a nightmare about it a few hours ago
[03:51] <holstein> qwebirc3504: :)
[03:51] <qwebirc3504> :>
[03:51] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: you mean for streaming, not server?
[03:51] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: sure
[03:51] <kevin5949173> kristian-aalborg: there was a guy in #ubuntu-uk i think that had one of those
[03:51] <kevin5949173> netbooks that is
[03:52] <holstein> really quiet
[03:52] <holstein> and good on the power
[03:52] <holstein> and if the ssd is dead
[03:52] <holstein> a used on of those should be like 20 bucks right?
[03:52] <holstein> with no SSD or battery
[03:52] <holstein> thats all you need
[03:52] <kevin5949173> if you could tuck the older server away somewhere that you're not sleeping in or something, like the garage, or a closet or something it might not matter
[03:52] <holstein> mine is in my crawl-space
[03:53] <kevin5949173> under the house?
[03:53] <kevin5949173> cool
[03:53] <holstein> well, its a 2 story house
[03:53] <holstein> so its easier to get to than that
[03:53] <kristian-aalborg> but it would be on 24/7?
[03:53] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: mine is
[03:53] <kevin5949173> we're in a 2 story house, but there isn't really a "crawl space" between floors
[03:54] <kristian-aalborg> I prefer an old laptop of decent quality to an Eee anytime
[03:54] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: i found a few with bad LCD's
[03:54] <holstein> that would work too
[03:54] <holstein> no LCD
[03:54] <holstein> no battery
[03:54] <holstein> a p4
[03:54] <holstein> headless laptop ;)
[03:55] <holstein> i ripped the screen off a dying dell p3 and used it as a server as well
[03:57] <qwebirc3504> holstein: how do I retrive just the CPU info  in terminal
[03:59] <holstein> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:59] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: I suppose the easiest/ cheapest thing would be a headless desktop
[04:00] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: depends
[04:00] <holstein> id say, just keep an eye out
[04:00] <qwebirc3504> thanks
[04:00] <holstein> you probably see a windows box abandoned somewhere
[04:01] <qwebirc3504> holstein: and no the applet is not working :p
[04:01] <qwebirc3504> now i notice that info is suck
[04:01] <Cheri703> running into an issue: tried to install a .deb, software center says it's installed, and only gives a "reinstall" option. the software doesn't show up in the applications list, nor /user/bin...any thoughts on where to go from here?
[04:02] <holstein> qwebirc3504: yeah, it might not
[04:02] <holstein> qwebirc3504: the official term is 'backporting'
[04:03] <holstein> qwebirc3504: but, its probably something that will show up in a PPA
[04:03] <holstein> OR, just get back ported automatically
[04:03] <qwebirc3504> holstein: The following packages will be REMOVED:   python-psutil
[04:03] <holstein> well, not automatically ;)
[04:03] <holstein> but, without needing to raise much fuxx
[04:03] <holstein> fuss*
[04:04] <holstein> qwebirc3504: that got installed with it right?
[04:04] <qwebirc3504> i guess
[04:04] <qwebirc3504> :)
[04:04] <holstein> lol
[04:04] <holstein> well, you'll find out
[04:04] <holstein> looks like something that is OK to remove
[04:04] <qwebirc3504> yep
[04:05] <holstein> !python-psutil
[04:05] <ubot2> Factoid 'python-psutil' not found
[04:05] <holstein> !python
[04:05] <ubot2> python is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python
[04:05] <qwebirc3504> anyway I use conky
[04:05] <qwebirc3504> but most of the time is hidden
[04:05]  * holstein likes conky
[04:05] <holstein> i dont use it though
[04:05] <holstein> i cant leave it alone ;)
[04:28] <had_matter> is ipmasq required for ICS?
[06:05] <cvam> USB Card reader is not detected.please help me to solve
[06:08] <cvam> I have given some relevant information in page  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10616900#post10616900
[06:08] <cvam>  read my post there
[06:21] <yax51> ok, I have a question
[06:21] <yax51> in Ubuntu, when I plug in a USB device such as an external hard drive, I get the shorcut on my desktop, which is WAY cool
[06:22] <yax51> I was wondering if anyone knew of a program or something that would allow me to do the same thing within windows? I've seen it before but can't remember what it was called
[06:22] <yax51> *is there a way for
[06:23] <cvam> USB Card reader is not detected.please help me to solve
[06:26] <cvam>  usb  is not detected anyone knows how to solve
[06:26] <yax51> which version of linux are you running?
[06:27] <cvam> yax51: 10.10
[06:28] <bioterror> cvam, are you sure that the card reader is not detected? you cant find it from the dmesg?
[06:29] <cvam> please tell me how to find it in output of dmesg
[06:30] <bioterror> dmesg |less
[06:31] <cvam> what name should I looking for a usb card reader
[06:31] <bioterror> you tell us
[06:32] <cvam> usb card reader?
[06:33] <bioterror> if it is usb card reader
[06:34] <bioterror> you can plug it off and plug it back and it should be showed in the last line of dmesg
[06:34] <cvam> this line is shown "  0.364226] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found"
[06:34] <cvam> ok ok
[06:35] <cvam> sorry it is not shown
[06:36] <bioterror> have you tried another card?
[06:36] <bioterror> as it is card reader
[06:36] <cvam> yes  but the same
[06:37] <cvam> but 2 days ago it is detected
[06:42] <cvam> Shall send the entries in   /var/log/messages    when reader is last used
[06:42] <cvam> bioterror:
[06:48] <bioterror> it worked couple of days ago and now it doesnt?
[06:48] <cvam> yes
[06:48] <bioterror> and you have not upgraded kernel or anything between?
[06:49] <cvam> What  shall  be the problem
[06:49] <cvam> no I have not do any thing
[06:50] <cvam> IS there a problem in hardware?
[06:50] <bioterror> possible
[06:51] <bioterror> when you have time, give your computer a reboot
[06:51] <cvam> one additional info : I have tried this card reader in win xp there also it is not detected
[06:52] <bioterror> get another reader then :D
[06:53] <cvam> ok thank you for your concern
[08:37] <r4y> hello
[08:37] <r4y> I want an online place to go to add up GBs and MBs, an online calc if you will
[08:38] <rcconf> hello
[08:39] <r4y> ellow
[08:40] <r4y> I guess I can use a conversion program then add them up myself
[08:40] <r4y> bye
[08:40] <r4y> o/
[08:59] <rcconf> hi MrChrisDruif
[09:00] <MrChrisDruif> Hai rcconf
[09:00] <rcconf> :>
[17:36] <davidl_> Hi there... trying to grep for a string in a bunch of files in a directory I'm sitting in... and can't get the syntax correct... what am I doing wrong??  Here's what I'm typing:  # grep -f -l Stream ./*
[17:38] <davidl_> I thought all i needed to do was type grep -f -l <search string> <location>
[17:41] <camelinahat> davidl_: I'm not 100% sure, if it's just in the current directory why not just: grep Stream *
[17:42] <camelinahat> the -f specifies one specific file.
[17:42] <davidl_> well... I guess I was just trying to get the list of files that "stream' showed up in
[17:42] <davidl_> grep -l stream *
[17:42] <davidl_> hehe... thx
[17:43] <camelinahat> leave out the -f option. (-f specifies what file "pattern" is listed in, for instance you'd have to have a file that said just "Stream" and have that as the arguement to the -f option ;)
[17:47] <davidl_> camelinahat: thank you!
[17:47] <camelinahat> Glad to help davidl_ :)
[22:43] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> Hi9
[22:44] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> I have a question about loading ubuntu onto a laptop
[22:44] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> the bios of the laptop is not detecting the usb
[22:44] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> and i cannot boot ubuntu from it
[22:44] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> does anyone have a solution
[22:44] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: cant do CDrom boot?
[22:45] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> i can
[22:45] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> but i dont have the resources
[22:45] <holstein> OK
[22:45] <holstein> have you tried formatting the USB stick
[22:45] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> is there a way i can get the bios of my laptop to recognize it
[22:45] <holstein> and re-making it
[22:45] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> and yes i have
[22:45] <holstein> with unetbooting?
[22:45] <holstein> OK
[22:45] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: either the hardware can boot it
[22:45] <holstein> or it cant
[22:46] <Guest460372> does your laptop support pxe network booting?
[22:46] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> umm
[22:46] <Guest460372> oops, empathy
[22:46] <holstein> you cant add that funtionality really
[22:46] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> i dont know
[22:46] <holstein> yeah, network booting is older id say
[22:46] <holstein> more likely to work
[22:46] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> its an old dell inspiron
[22:46] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> from like 2001
[22:46] <holstein> right
[22:46] <holstein> so it probably doesnt USB boot
[22:46] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> yea
[22:47] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: can you take the hard drive to a machine that does?
[22:47] <kevin1394939> if you have another computer with ubuntu on the network, you can set it up for netbooting, let me find the how to on that
[22:47] <holstein> does support USB booting ?
[22:47] <holstein> yeah, or just net-install like kevin1394939 is suggesting ^
[22:47] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> wait
[22:47] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ok
[22:47] <holstein> thats how the pro's would do it
[22:47] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> lol
[22:47] <kevin1394939> find the link, sorry
[22:47] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> but i saw on the dell website that theres a bios update
[22:48] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> for my laptop
[22:48] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> i just dont want to in case something might go awry
[22:48] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: what do you have in the thing?
[22:48] <kevin1394939> i have a toshiba (meh) and updating the bios required burning a cd
[22:48] <holstein> 4 bucks?
[22:48] <kevin1394939> since the bios updater was a windows program
[22:48] <holstein> usually with bioses, i say, if it aint broke...
[22:48] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> what do u mean what do i have in the thing
[22:49] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: im saying its old, so worst case scenario, you end up with a door stop
[22:49] <kevin1394939> here's the how to for netbooting poasjgtnpiahbtna: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[22:49] <holstein> instead of a frustrating old laptop
[22:49] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> right...
[22:50] <holstein> i seriously dont think updating the bios will add USB booting functionality
[22:50] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> the bios was made at 206
[22:50] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> 2006
[22:50] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> so i think it would
[22:51] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> my bios is actually from 2000
[22:51] <holstein> well, never say never right?
[22:51] <holstein> but, ive never seen it
[22:51] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> oh...
[22:51] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> so at this point its either netboot or boot from CD
[22:52] <holstein> or take the hard drive to another box
[22:52] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ok
[22:52] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> i think ill just look harder for the CDs lol
[22:52] <holstein> you can order them
[22:52] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> i know
[22:52] <holstein> if its a burner issue
[22:52] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> its not a burner issue
[22:53] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> i cand find my discs in my house
[22:53] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> and my parents dont want me ordering stuff to be mailed
[22:53] <kevin1394939> too bad a tiny linux install doesn't come on a chip
[22:53] <holstein> well, they'll come in handy
[22:53] <holstein> if you need to go buy some
[22:53] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> yea
[22:53] <holstein> and you're working on older boxes like that
[22:53] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> oh actually
[22:54] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> maybe i can get my bios to look for OSes by reordering what it looks at first
[22:54] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> i know it looks at my hard drive first on my comp
[22:54] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: i dont think you'll get that to boot that USB
[22:54] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> but when i was in the bios it had an option to change the first thing as the USB drive
[22:55] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: let me know if you do :)
[22:55] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> lol
[22:55] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> how
[22:55] <holstein> i have a couple older dells
[22:55] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> and?
[22:55] <holstein> and flashing the bioses never added that funcionaltiy
[22:56] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> oh...
[22:56] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> :/
[22:56] <holstein> to be honest, i dont think i was as commited to the task as you seem to be poasjgtnpiahbtna :)
[22:56] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> lol
[22:56] <holstein> i just kinda tried a couple things
[22:56] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> like>
[22:56] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ?
[22:56] <holstein> while the CD was burning
[22:56] <holstein> and just did that
[22:56] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: like a CD
[22:56] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> oh
[22:56] <holstein> that can boot other things
[22:56] <holstein> which you would need to burn
[22:56] <holstein> and didnt work for me in that situations
[22:56] <holstein> situation*
[22:57] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> hmmm
[22:57] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> well
[22:57] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ill try it
[22:57] <holstein> the gag bootloader
[22:57] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> lolwut?
[22:57] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> well anyways
[22:58] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> thanks for the help
[22:58] <holstein> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[22:58] <holstein> but, you'd need to burn that too
[22:58] <holstein> and it didnt work for me
[22:58] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> byeok
[22:58] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ok
[22:58] <thwrath> hey all
[22:58] <holstein> its a matter of what the machine can boot
[22:58] <holstein> and you should be able to
[22:58] <holstein> somehow
[22:58] <holstein> boot a CD
[22:58] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ok
[22:58] <thewrath> i have a question on the proper set up for an IDS
[22:58] <holstein> and then at that menu
[22:59] <holstein> boot the USB installer
[22:59] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ok
[22:59] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> will do
[22:59] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> thanks
[22:59] <holstein> BUT, thats not going to help you, and it didnt work for me on several occasions :/
[22:59] <holstein> poasjgtnpiahbtna: sure
[22:59] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> ok
[22:59] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> thanks for the help
[22:59] <poasjgtnpiahbtna> bye
[23:01] <thewrath> how is an IDS setup supposed to look like?
[23:01] <holstein> thewrath: that might be a good question for ##security
[23:02] <holstein> naptime...
[23:06] <thewrath> anyone in here have any good ideas?
[23:10] <kevin1394939> thewrath i don't know, but if you figure it out, there is no IDS wiki it looks like
[23:21] <robs58> Greetings!  I am having problems changing my root password.  When I go to do a "passwd root", I get the following  Unknown error
[23:21] <robs58> passwd: unknown user (uid=0).
[23:21] <robs58> any ideas on where to start?
[23:22] <holstein> robs58: you shouldnt have a root password
[23:22] <holstein> robs58: typically, the way ubuntu works
[23:23] <holstein> you just use sudo
[23:23] <holstein> IF you have changed that default behavior
[23:23] <holstein> and enabled a more traditional root account
[23:23] <holstein> you might want to re-examine the meathod by which you did that
[23:23] <robs58> ok
[23:23] <holstein> IF you need to run something as root
[23:24] <holstein> you just do sudo
[23:24] <holstein> sudo command
[23:24] <holstein> and the password you are prompted for will be your user password
[23:24] <holstein> IR you want a root console
[23:24] <holstein> open a terminal and type
[23:25] <holstein> sudo -s
[23:25] <holstein> enter the user pass
[23:25] <robs58> for reasons I can't really go into,  it is necessary to use root....any ideas on what can be causing that message?
[23:25] <holstein> robs58: sure
[23:25] <holstein> what ever guide you followed to enable the root account messed something up
[23:25] <holstein> OR
[23:26] <holstein> you had capslock on when you set the root password
[23:26] <holstein> keyboard error
[23:26] <holstein> could be anything
[23:26] <holstein> robs58: i 'use' root all the time
[23:26] <holstein> with the sudo command
[23:27] <robs999> headnode:~# pwck
[23:27] <robs999> user lp: directory /var/spool/lpd does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> user news: directory /var/spool/news does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> user uucp: directory /var/spool/uucp does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> user list: directory /var/list does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> user irc: directory /var/run/ircd does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> user gnats: directory /var/lib/gnats does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> user nobody: directory /nonexistent does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> user john3: directory /home/john3 does not exist
[23:27] <robs999> pwck: no changes
[23:27] <robs999> headnode:~#
[23:27] <holstein> robs999: you should use pastebin
[23:27] <holstein> OR http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:27] <robs999> ok
[23:28] <holstein> robs999 robs58 thats a lot like what i get when i run that command
[23:29] <robs999> I used pastebin but can't tell that anything happened.  what is supposed to happen
[23:30] <holstein> robs999: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588027/
[23:30] <holstein> thats the output of that command for me
[23:30] <holstein> as root then normal user
[23:30] <holstein> and all is well on my system
[23:30] <thewrath> holstein: thought you were going to take a nap lol
[23:30] <holstein> thewrath: hehe
[23:30] <holstein> yeah, i still am...
[23:31] <robs999> I see
[23:31] <holstein> robs999: sudo is the way to go
[23:31] <robs999> okay
[23:31] <holstein> i cant imagine why you cant use sudo
[23:31] <holstein> gksudo for graphical apps *
[23:32] <holstein> robs999: if you didnt change anything
[23:32] <holstein> there is not root
[23:32] <holstein> there is no root*
[23:32] <holstein> not like in the older traditional sense
[23:32] <robs999> I didn't create the system.  I inherited it...right now I'm just trying to get it temporarily fixed...and THEN...when I have more time...I can invest in the learning curve of using sudo
[23:32] <robs999> And right now...practical matters prevent me from doing os
[23:32] <robs999> so
[23:32] <holstein> robs999: you'll need the user password
[23:33] <holstein> and that can be recovered
[23:33] <holstein> at boot
[23:33] <holstein> the recovery console
[23:33] <holstein> if i were you, i would just reinstall
[23:33] <holstein> and get the box setup the way i want
[23:34] <robs999> I can't just reinstall...this is being used in a production environment.  Reinstalling would impact many users
[23:34] <holstein> robs999: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[23:34] <robs999> thanks
[23:35] <holstein> good luck
[23:35] <holstein> now, naptime :)
[23:59] <thewrath> what is the libpcap package name in 10.10