[09:32] <airurando> morning.
[09:33] <airurando>  anyone know (a) when beta 1 will be out and (b) where will it be available for download?
[09:34] <czajkowski> airurando: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[09:39] <czajkowski> Does Open Source *really* save money? London School of Economics study your chance to prove - simple form to fill in: http://bit.ly/dP74g6
[09:47] <airurando> czajkowski: saw that thanks.  I didn't realise the download link would be available from that page.
[09:47] <ebel> morning all
[09:54] <czajkowski> airurando: no bother
[09:54] <czajkowski> :)
[10:13] <airurando> morning ebel
[15:19] <slashtom> erm... 30 seconds to open a terminal when only firefox is running (Ubuntu 10.10, dual core 2.4GHz system with 4GB RAM)
[15:19] <slashtom> :(
[15:22] <ebel> slashtom: but you have a load of 15!
[15:23] <ebel> Since you didn't menion anything about your system, i shall make assumptions that explain things :P
[15:23] <slashtom> load of 2 or so
[15:23] <slashtom> which is crazy, the system is doing anything
[15:24] <ebel> swapping? what's the cpu usage like? what's io usage like?
[15:24] <slashtom> 0 swap used
[15:25] <slashtom> load is continually over 1, for entire usage
[15:25] <slashtom> without firefox running, that's 16 seconds to open a terminal
[15:26] <ebel> what's using cpu? userspace? iowait? kernelspace?
[15:26] <ebel> run "vmstat 1" to see what your CPU is using
[15:26] <slashtom> i have bloatware installed, so that's not helping
[15:26] <ebel> and then open the terminal and see if anything spikes (e.g. iowait, kernel, io etc...)
[15:28] <slashtom> this has been annoying me for weeks (it's a secondary system)
[15:28] <ebel> you running virtual machines? what's your file cache like?
[15:28] <slashtom> none
[15:28] <slashtom> i'm going to put squeeze on here in a minute
[15:29] <ebel> no file cache? so it has to read the programmes from disk every time?
[15:30] <ebel> You got NIS or anything funky like that?
[15:30] <slashtom> no virtual machines
[15:30] <slashtom> no NIS
[15:30] <slashtom> it's a standalone system
[15:30] <ebel> Any long running scripts in your ~/.profile, /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc etc etc
[15:31] <slashtom> it takes too long to find out, and i'm now trying to copy stuff off here
[15:31]  * slashtom is going to squeeze it
[15:40] <slashtom> 2 minutes 20 seconds to open a terminal (i am doing an 'apt-get install' at the same time)
[15:41] <slashtom> load: 6.03 12.03 7.18
[15:41] <ebel> :(
[16:29]  * slashtom squeezes
[16:37] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:40] <slashtom> hmm?
[17:42]  * ChadMcCool is off to be cool at the Ubuntu Hour :p
[17:43] <ebel> cool
[17:44]  * ChadMcCool thinks that comment is cool!
[17:44] <ChadMcCool> I feel the need to keep this up for as long as possible
[20:31] <airurando> ping infoturtle
[20:33] <infoturtle> hey airurando
[20:34] <airurando> how was UHL?
[20:35] <infoturtle> quite
[20:35] <infoturtle> just meself and 3 cd's
[20:35] <airurando> oh dear
[20:35] <airurando> hope the cds were entertaining
[20:36] <infoturtle> ha, they were a bit of fun, lucky they have wifi and skynews
[20:36] <airurando> infoturtle: we were chatting about UGJ at UHD last night.
[20:36] <infoturtle> oh ya?
[20:36] <airurando> I know you were thinking of giving an intro at UGJL
[20:37] <infoturtle> a bit of one ya, making like a power point intro to explain things
[20:37] <airurando> the idea cropped up of streaming ebels introduction.
[20:37] <infoturtle> bout 10-15 mins
[20:37] <infoturtle> that would be great
[20:38] <airurando> don't want to interfere with you plans though
[20:38] <infoturtle> I'm just going off what the wiki says so a bit of experience would be nice in it
[20:38] <airurando> sound like you are putting effort into it
[20:38] <infoturtle> not at all, thats productive and would help everyone here too
[20:39] <infoturtle> I can keep mine for if two or three more come later in the dat, I don't mind
[20:39] <infoturtle> *day
[20:39] <airurando> powerpoint?....surely not
[20:39] <airurando> ha
[20:39] <infoturtle> no but I forget what open offices one is called
[20:39] <airurando> ebel has given a few before
[20:39] <airurando> low key
[20:40] <infoturtle> well ebel should know were a though crowd to please down here!
[20:40] <infoturtle> so he might wana vamp it up a bit
[20:40] <airurando> we'll see if we get it organised so.
[20:41] <airurando> by we I mean them.
[20:41] <airurando> I'll make the tea!
[20:41] <infoturtle> ha ha, anything helps
[20:42] <airurando> It will be interesting to see if much communication flows between the two venues.
[20:42] <infoturtle> I've two friends with me all day and were think of doing a ustream for recording or those pondering of comming down to see what were doing
[20:42] <airurando> great idea
[20:42] <infoturtle> and we'l be in IRC too for the day so we should be close in contact
[20:43] <airurando> aye indeed
[20:43] <airurando> any plans on testing beta 1 in Limerick?
[20:44] <airurando> no experience of it at UGLD.
[20:44] <airurando> going to give it a go.
[20:44] <infoturtle> I would love to check it out, I'm unsure how the day will go as this is my first
[20:44] <airurando> only my second.
[20:44] <airurando> I thoroughly enjoyed the first.
[20:45] <airurando> Hope this one will also be productive.
[20:45] <airurando> I also plan on adding to our reapproval application wiki page.
[20:45] <infoturtle> I do look forward to this indeed, duno how productive we will be down here as we not great at C but we'll do the best we can
[20:46] <airurando> infoturtle: most important thing is to have fun.
[20:46] <infoturtle> that part will be easy
[20:46] <airurando> build on knowledge for next time
[20:47] <infoturtle> I just look forward to see how the day turns out
[20:47] <infoturtle> did 091labs say if there going to Limerick or Dublin? some of the miLKlabs are comming to this one
[20:48] <airurando> haven't heard about what 091labs are doing.
[20:48] <airurando> just was the comment on the facebook page.
[20:49] <airurando> *saw
[20:49] <airurando> infoturtle: is citizenjonker going to attend?
[20:50] <infoturtle> I was hoping to talk to him tonight but he must have forgotten, I'll txt him in a bit and ask
[20:50] <airurando> he would be good.
[20:51] <airurando> he was at the last one in Dublin.
[20:51] <infoturtle> he would, I'll get in touch with him alright, I must go fill out this important form for U:
[20:51] <infoturtle> *UL