[00:22] <hads> Hmm, it seems the GMA500 chipset drivers are dodgy
[00:24] <hads> That will be the video card problems you were talking about chilts
[00:25] <hads> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_500_on_Linux
[00:28] <ojwb> not so good
[00:34] <hads> No, I think that puts me off. If it doesn't work out of the box it's probably too much effort.
[00:39] <ibeardslee> make sure you let them know that is why
[00:39] <ibeardslee> might not be able to change the way they do things
[00:41] <ajmitch> poulsbo chipset?
[00:42] <hads> Yeah
[00:42] <hads> I will tell them, I imagine they've heard it before. I bet they got stung by it too, they used to provide Ubuntu as an option and I wondered why they stopped, that's probably the reason.
[00:43] <hads> Man it's annoying finding pre built systems to run Linux. So often something like this comes up and throws a spanner in the works.
[00:44] <ojwb> wonder if the preinstalled mint works
[00:44] <ojwb> it'd still be useful for non-video applications, but you're probably paying extra for hardware you aren't using
[00:45] <hads> Surely it would, though there seem to be many tales of the proprietry bits causing upgrade issues.
[03:41]  * thumper is upgrading laptop to natty
[03:41] <thumper> about 16 hours remaining to download packages
[03:41] <thumper> although it ranges from 5 - 16 hours
[03:41] <thumper> server however won't
[03:42] <thumper> as it thinks there is a checksum failure on the partner repository
[03:43] <ibeardslee> ouch
[03:52] <ojwb> who wants the partner repo though...
[03:52] <ajmitch> thumper: that seems a bit off
[03:52] <ajmitch> even on a bad day I wouldn't think it'd take that long to download packages
[03:52] <ojwb> dear me, it must be close to release day
[03:52] <ojwb> how time flies
[03:53] <thumper> beta time
[03:53] <thumper> well, beta RSN
[03:54] <snail> we need a bittorrent-like protocol that works well in situations like this
[03:54] <ojwb> there have been ideas
[03:54] <ojwb> the tricky part is that bittorrent works well for larger files than the typical package
[03:55] <snail> bittorrent works really well for huge (>5GB) isolated files rather than collections of middling files
[03:57] <ojwb> yeah
[03:57] <ojwb> so you could bittorrent a pack of the essential packages for a new release usefully
[03:58] <ojwb> though if you pay by data transferred, bittorrent isn't so appealing
[03:59] <snail> ojwb: oh yes it is
[04:01] <ojwb> well, it doesn't appeal much to me...
[04:01] <ojwb> if I ran a mirror I'd feel differently
[04:01] <snail> bitorrent means would mean we wouldn't have to re-ftp a 1400MB PDF whose transfer time rivaled out network's mean-time-between-failures
[04:02] <ojwb> for package upgrades I mean
[04:02] <ojwb> but you can continue transfers for FTP can't you?
[04:02] <ojwb> or using PASV
[04:03] <ojwb> oh MTBF, not timeout
[04:05] <snail> ojwb: yes, what you say holds true for all but the largest of packages
[19:38] <ajmitch> morning
[19:56] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:56] <ibeardslee> karora: still heading up to mix it with the poor people?
[20:01] <snail> morning
[20:01] <snail> the poor people?
[20:04] <ibeardslee> http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/internetnz-slashes-price-of-nethui
[20:04] <karora> Heh.
[20:04] <karora> Yeah, I think I shall.
[20:04] <karora> I should fit right in :-)
[20:04] <karora> How about you?
[20:06] <ibeardslee> unlikely
[20:07] <ajmitch> that's quite a price difference
[20:08] <ibeardslee> very
[20:09] <ajmitch> http://uds.ubuntu.com/ <-- what I'd like to go to in may, but would cost just a bit much :)
[20:11] <ibeardslee> sigh yeah .. must buy lotto ticket
[20:11] <ajmitch> heh
[20:22] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: as long as you promise to sponsor a few of us to go to UDS :)
[20:25] <ibeardslee> hell, I'd take the whole of #ubuntu-nz
[20:26] <ibeardslee> or even better .. organise one for NZ
[20:26] <ajmitch> that could still cost quite a lot
[20:27] <ibeardslee> still be plenty of change from the $27mil
[21:52] <Atamira> morena