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skaetslangasek around?01:44
GrueMasterUgh, these SD cards are freaking slowww.  oem-config has been running for 30 minutes on my beagleXM.  Also need to restart the kubuntu-moble omap4 image testing (SD corruption).03:56
GrueMasterAlmost done booting into kubuntu desktop on my beagleXM.  Past the login screen, just waiting for something to happen.03:57
skaetGrueMaster, thanks04:07
GrueMasterI am almost finished with armel testing.  The biggest time consumer is filing bugs and adding to the tracker.05:08
GrueMasterI need to take a break (dinner and minor down time).  Will be back in an hour to finish kubuntu-mobile on omap4.05:09
GrueMasterI want to fail kubuntu-mobile on armel, but iso tracker requires a bug number.  Problem is there is no display manager in the image.06:55
ScottKGrueMaster: nodm is by design.06:59
GrueMasterWell, I don't think console only is by design.  Otherwise you might rather run headless.07:00
ScottKTrue.07:00
GrueMasterAm I miising a trick to running this?07:00
GrueMaster(bad typing excluded)07:01
ScottKDunno.  I'd ask rbelem or apachelogger on #kubuntu-mobile.07:01
ScottKI do know it's supposed to have nodm instead of kdm so you don't have to login.07:01
* ScottK needs to sleep. Good luck.07:01
GrueMasterI'll give it one more go, then I'm out.07:02
* skaet nods07:03
GrueMasterskaet: I'm out.  Get some sleep.  :)07:35
skaetThanks for your efforts!  soon for me too...07:36
pittiGood morning08:05
skaetpitti, jibel,  good morning.  :)   Interesting discussions with cjwatson on nasty wubi/grub bug in #ubuntu-testing backscroll - FYI.08:36
pittiskaet: hey, good morning08:36
pittiskaet: FYI, I just gave https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview some polishing08:36
pittiskaet: oh, wubi still broken? I noticed that cjwatson did a CD respin last night for wubi08:36
skaetyeah,  memory corruption issue in grub exposed it looks like.08:37
jibelHi skaet good night! I've read it.08:37
skaetIn the introduction on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview08:37
skaetis the probably response to it.   ie. we don't recommend using wubi.08:38
skaetwith beta 1.08:38
pitti*nod*08:38
jibelpitti, the respin was to fix the label of the iso that wubi was not recognizing as a valid Ubuntu ISO.08:38
skaetpitti, feel free to go into the TechOverview and do more polishing.   I still haven't finished translating/reviewing as worthy of mention, all those lovely new bugs.    Big gap for me is the desktop/unity side.  :)08:39
pittiskaet: ah, I was about to ask whether I should go through the known issues08:39
skaetyes please.08:40
pittisure08:40
skaetalso,  feel free to start in on as much of the release checklist as possible.   cjwatson only went to bed about 4 hours ago, so not sure when he'll be rolling on.08:41
pittiskaet: I can start the image publishing and all that, so that the mirrors can start pulling from the firehose08:43
skaetpitti, that would be good.   The images that are there are the one's we'll be going with now.08:43
pittiskaet: ok, so aside from wubi no other catastrophes?08:43
skaetI do think there are some of the arm/kubuntu varients we may need to selectively review whether worth shipping or not,  but you'll need ogra's input I think.08:44
pittiwell, I'll run through the iso tracker again anyway, to pick up new fatal bugs08:44
skaet#u-testing, and look at GrueMaster's comments.08:44
skaetthanks.08:44
* skaet feels that now that pitti is awake, its in good hands, and she can go to sleep. :)08:45
pittiskaet: heh, sleep well!08:45
skaetthanks.08:45
mvogood night !08:45
jibelskaet, sleep well!08:46
cjwatsonpitti,skaet: I'm here at the moment, though I normally start late on Thu08:56
pittihey cjwatson08:56
cjwatsonpublish-image-set.py --prepublish should be fine to do08:57
pitticjwatson: I'm currently updating the known issues on tech overview, and can then start the image publishing, if you want me to08:57
cjwatsonsure, that'd be great08:57
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cjwatsonhow about I fix publish-image-set?08:57
cjwatsonshould work now (r236)09:00
pittihm, publish-image-set doesnt seem happy (only has very few images), investigating09:38
cjwatson--prepublish doesn't have many because only a few need prepublication09:41
cjwatson(that got me too)09:41
pittiah, of course09:41
pitticjwatson: we don't have source isos on releases.u.c.?09:42
pitti(good from a mirror POV, just not sure about the legalese)09:42
cjwatsonthat reminds me, I need to run cron.source (running)09:42
cjwatsonwe don't09:42
pittigood09:42
cjwatsonideally we'd link to the source images09:43
cjwatson(directly rather than generally to cdimage)09:43
cjwatson<p>This directory contains the most frequently downloaded $CAPPROJECT09:43
cjwatsonimages. Other images, including DVDs and source CDs, may be available on the09:43
cjwatson<a href="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/">cdimage server</a>.09:43
pittibefore publishing I'll do some cleanup first; at a3 we ran into -ENOSPC issues which caused a lot of confusion09:43
cjwatsonI did some cleanup yesterday / the day before which may have helped09:44
cjwatsoncheck with IS how much space is free, I guess09:44
pittiah, good09:45
pittiok, removed quite some old images (including two old edubuntu DVDs, etc.)09:55
pitticjwatson: mirrors are busy now10:00
pitticjwatson: can I also already publish the source isos? (as they take aaages to sync, even just to cdimage mirrors), or does your cron.source thing still need to run?10:03
pitticjwaston: ah, I see the cronjob, nevermind10:09
pittiI'll wait for that10:09
* pitti goes back to banging on techoverview10:12
pittiskaet_zzz: FYI, I'm summarizing related bugs in the tech overview, and also remove unimportant ones (such as deprecation warnings), to make the page a little easier to understand and read10:18
pittiogra_: would you like to review the "Ubuntu Netbook on ARM" and "Ubuntu Headless" sections on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview ?10:36
pitticjwatson: publishing beta-1 source isos to cdimage now (as this takes ages)10:46
pitticjwatson: I also moved the alpha-3 images to ../old-images, but did _not_ sync that yet10:52
pitticjwatson: so the remaining thing to do now is the publish-image-set.py minus src10:53
pittiI need to disappear for a couple of hours for doctor appointment, some errands and lunch, sorry; should be back when the action resumes, though11:08
cjwatsonsource> ta11:14
cjwatsonI get upset mails and bug reports from John Gilmore if we don't get the source images done properly11:14
ogra_pitti, added and reviewed11:24
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cjwatsonout for a while (taking the car for its yearly test, so of course I'll have to walk back)13:43
pittire13:48
pittiogra_: thanks13:48
ogra_pitti, about the kubuntu arm images, i have no idea which ones should get published, you will need to ask the owner13:51
pittiRiddell, ScottK: who owns/decides about the maturity of kubuntu arm images?13:52
ogra_there was a wikipage with a list of owners13:52
* ogra_ digs 13:53
ogra_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseImageContacts13:53
pittiah, thanks13:54
pittibug 712061 sounds like it would affect omap3 and omap413:55
ubot4`Launchpad bug 712061 in kubuntu-mobile-default-settings (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "kubuntu mobile images fail to load (affects: 1) (heat: 70)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71206113:55
pittipinged rbelem in devel13:56
ogra_pitti, we dont have live images on armel13:58
ogra_so loop device or squashfs issues are not for us13:58
ogra_hmm, that bug turns into something completely different at the end13:59
ogra_pitti, the nodm stuff might or might not affect armel, the initial bug description surely *isnt* an armel issue14:01
pittisince this is "it", I wonder whether we could just thaw uploads again14:32
cjwatsonhas skaet said she's OK to go with what we have?14:32
pittithat's what she said this morning, /me checks logs14:33
pitti2011-03-31 09:43:30     skaet   pitti, that would be good.   The images that are there are the one's we'll be g14:33
pittioing with now.14:33
pitti(argh, c&p from less sucks14:33
pittiso, wubi is officially declared broken, and the kubuntu mobile images as well14:34
pittithe rest looks okay14:34
ScottKpitti: I think powerpc is broken too.14:35
pittiright14:35
cjwatsonthe wubi bug looks like it may be due to an incorrect limit in GRUB's NTFS implementation14:36
cjwatsonthe error isn't actually printed, but gdb seems to be revealing a "read out of range" error, which is only generated in a single place in ntfs.c14:37
ScottKIf we're ~sure this is it, perhaps I could go ahead and accept gcc-4.4?  It will take a long time to build and isn't the default gcc, so even if we are wrong and respin something it's unlikely to have any effect?14:38
cjwatsonI'd be happy with that14:38
ScottKOK.14:38
ScottKDone.14:39
pitticjwatson: hm, I can't find a bug report about the wubi failure (i. e. the grub2 memory corruption), is there one? (I checked wubi and grub2, and the ISO tracker)15:11
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pittihey skaet, good morning15:12
skaetmorning all15:12
skaetany new breakages overnight from the remaining tests?15:12
jibelpitti, I filed bug 746257 but the title is not really clear since I didn't know what's the problem was.15:13
ubot4`Launchpad bug 746257 in wubi "Wubi fails to boot. User dropped to a grub shell (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74625715:13
pittiskaet: nothing new; so wubi, powerpc, and kubuntu mobile are officially declared broken, the rest ought to work15:13
pittijibel: ah, thanks; I'll add that as a reference to the tech note15:13
skaetthanks pitti.15:14
pittiskaet: ok, that just fixed the remaining "TODO" item in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview, should be fairly complete now (also see my mumblings in backscroll)15:14
* skaet looking15:14
pittiskaet: images are pre-published and should be mirrored, old images cleaned up15:14
pittiskaet: so I'm by and large now waiting for "the word" to publish the images, and have natty unfreeze (stuff is queueing up and we really don't want to land that on a Friday)15:15
ScottKpitti: Once we start unfreezing, I'd suggest we let loose things like the pkg-binarymangler that might affect other builds first so we don't end up with another late Friday post-milestone breakage problem when no one is around.15:15
pittiskaet: note that publishing the images will still take a bit15:15
pittiScottK: both pkgbinarymangler and pkg-create-dbgsym are rather harmless really, but can do15:16
ScottKThat was just an example.15:16
ScottKThanks.15:16
pittiright15:16
* skaet went through backscroll and all looks reasonable. :). 15:21
skaetpitti,   thank you for the editing of the bugs!15:21
pittiyw15:21
* skaet *hugs* pitti15:21
* pitti hugs back Kate15:21
pittiskaet: so, please let me know when I should push the publish and thaw buttons15:22
skaetpitti,  will do.  negotiating with web publishing now (rhlee is doing it this time)15:23
pittiskaet: as I said, we'll need at least one or two hours time in advance to the web publishing15:23
pittiwell, let's say one15:23
skaetheh.15:24
GrueMasterMorning.  I'm looking over the TechOverview and see one thing that can be removed.  Under Ubuntu Netbook on Arm, No visual feedback on the splashscreen during jasper run. (728335) is now working.15:25
skaetGrueMaster,  cool.   just go delete15:25
pittihm, sorry, I thought I already removed all the fix released bugs15:25
skaetpitti,  they are a shifting target right up to the last minute.15:25
GrueMasterApparently the bug wasn't properly updated.15:26
pittiah, phew15:26
skaetpitti,   where are the headless, arm, kubuntu mobile images going to be coming down from.    We're also not shipping the uce-images,  so we probably need to make some mention of that.15:28
* skaet goes and deletes the uec-images ref from the download beta 1 list 15:28
pittiskaet: everythign but ubuntu/kubuntu desktop/alternates/server will be on cdimage, as usual15:30
pittiskaet: i. e. arm, xubuntu, ubuntu DVD, source, tec.15:30
pitti"etc"15:30
ScottKI think we won't ship any kubuntu-mobile this milestone.15:30
ScottKRiddell: ^^^ ?15:31
pittithat, too (see above)15:31
Riddellright, don't15:31
skaetpitti,  where are the ec2 images?15:31
pittiskaet: that's a mystery I still haven't learned about -- smoser usually does the right thing to them to publish them15:31
smoser:)15:31
smoserare we ready to push go ?15:32
pittismoser: when skaet says the world, we can both push our buttons and see who publishes faster :)15:32
smoserhttp://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110329/ will be promoted, it has been pre-published.15:32
pitti"the race of the rsyncs"15:32
skaetsmoser,  what path should I reference in the release notes for folks to pull those images from for beta?15:33
* skaet just reads15:33
pittismoser: would that be http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ eventually?15:34
skaethttp://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ (Ubuntu Server for  EC2)  ?  ok?15:34
smoserright.15:34
pittismoser: btw, you might want to remove http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-3.tmp/ ?15:34
smoseroh. yeah, sorry.15:34
smoserhttp://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/15:34
smoseri'll ditch that tmp file.15:34
smosergone15:35
skaethmm,  ubuntu-headless looks like it needs to be added to the list.15:41
skaetpitti, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/releases/natty/beta-1/15:41
skaetseem about right?15:41
pittiskaet: yes, looks fine to me15:42
ogra_yup, thats the right path15:42
skaetcool.  adding it.15:42
pittipublish-release.py doesn't know about the headless images yet; I'll try to crowbar that in in the meantime15:43
pitticd15:43
pittierk, focus15:43
skaetthanks.15:44
ogra_oops, sorry, i should have added it ...15:44
pittiI mean, publish-image-set15:44
skaetI thought that some of the images would also go on /testing/ as well, but waiting feedback from web team15:45
pittiogra_: headless is armel+omap and armel+omap4 as well?15:45
dokopitti: please could you accept perl before the general unfreeze?15:46
pittidoko: noted15:46
pittidoko: and let that publish, or you just want it to start building first?15:46
dokopitti: start building, so that I don't see that many build failures in the rebuild test15:46
dokosame for doxygen15:47
pittiack15:47
pittino problem15:47
dokothe latter maybe now, it's not on any image15:47
pittidoko: done15:48
pittiin general I'll walk through and accept the lower-level stuff first15:48
skaetpitti,  hmm,  what about the netboot images?15:49
cjwatsonI'll take care of the HTML pages for netboot15:50
cjwatsonwhere's the manifest page?15:50
skaetcjwatson,  manifest page is a bit stale (on the todo), but indicates cdimage for netboot.   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest15:58
dokopitti: please accept gdc-4.4 too (packages b-d on gdc currently ftbfs)16:00
cjwatsonis that architecture list still what you want published?16:00
pittidoko: done16:00
dokopitti: same for gnat-4.4 (which will fail to build immediately, needing manual lamont love (or hate))16:01
pittidoko: done16:01
cjwatsonhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/11.04/beta-1/ (not synced out yet, but that's where it'll be)16:02
skaetcjwatson,  I'll be updating manifest to reflect what we've gotten testing agreement to on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseImageContacts16:09
skaetwill add that netboot path in the release notes - thanks!16:10
pitticjwatson: FYI, r237 now handles ubuntu-headless (erk ugly code)16:11
cjwatsonyeah, that stuff isn't fun.  thanks16:12
dokopitti: and finally gcj-4.416:13
pittiskaet: hm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest doesn't have the headless armel images?16:13
pittidone16:14
pittiI guess that's now "bye-bye buildds" until today :)16:14
pitti"tomorrow" I mean16:14
skaetpitti,  thanks.   yeah,  manifest needs a good scrub.16:14
pittiskaet: do you think it's ok to thaw now? (sorry for nagging, but it's getting late, I need IS for that, and we _really_ don't want to defer that until tomorrow)16:17
skaetpitti,  yeah,  I just checked with jibel, and it doesn't look like anything that's left could become a show stopper (beyone what we know)16:18
skaetpitti,  go ahead with the unthaw and turning on the auto jobes.16:18
skaetjobs even16:18
pittiskaet: ok, cool; I'll accept the low-level stuff then, and ask for thawing16:19
pittiskaet: CD cronjobs can certainly wait until tomorrow, no rush with them16:19
cjwatsonpitti: thanks for dealing with the publishing; I know I was on the hook for the last stages16:19
pitticjwatson: no worries; you barely slept for 4 hours, happy to help you a bit16:20
DavieyHi, Has the archive thawed now?16:39
RiddellDaviey: it would explain why all those packages got removed16:41
pittithawed, uploads work again16:41
pittiqueues cleared16:41
smoserpitti, so i should have pushed 'go'?16:43
pittismoser: I didn't publish CD images yet, still waiting for skaet's go16:43
smoserah. ok.16:43
pittismoser: that's just the natty uploads, so that we stop blocking development16:43
skaetpitti,  smoser,   go ahead now.   I don't see any blockers at this point.16:44
pittiskaet: ack16:44
Davieydandy16:45
tgardnernow that the archive is thawed, could someone NEW linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 ?17:02
* skaet -> food, biab17:04
pitticjwatson: I now published all images and updated HEADER.html, but I didn't mangle manifest yet17:13
cjwatsonwant me to?17:13
pittiis that www/./simple/.manifest ?17:14
cjwatsonyes17:14
pitticjwatson: what needs changing there?17:14
cjwatsonI'll do it and you can look at the diff17:14
pittithanks17:14
pitticjwatson: and where is the counterpart for kubuntu?17:15
cjwatsondiff -u .manifest.full .manifest17:15
cjwatsonit's all in that file17:15
pitticjwatson: ah, I see; so that's only temoprary for faster mirror sync?17:16
cjwatsonyes17:17
cjwatsonfaster mirror probing actually17:17
pittiok, www diff looks good17:18
pittianything else? if not, I'll press the sync-mirrors button17:18
pittithere, syncing17:19
pittiskaet: I'll supervise the syncing and tell you when it's done17:20
pittiskaet: oops, TechOverview has "cdimage" for u/kubuntu, fixing17:21
pittiskaet: it's releases.u.c.17:21
tgardnerpitti, cjwatson: can I get linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 NEWed? I hate to nag, but we're about to have a meta package upload for the kernel that also references LBM binaries. not the end of the world for sure, but annoying nonetheless.17:37
pittiskaet: release.u.c. links added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview, and updated descriptions17:38
pittitgardner: done17:38
tgardnerpitti, thanks17:38
smoserhttp://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ is live now.17:50
pittiedu and kubuntu DVDs finally rsynced, whew17:58
skaetpitti,  thanks.    Remind me to corner you at UDS for a description of why the links change from cdimages to releases for beta and the background as to the which images are selected.18:01
skaetpitti, smoser - just heard back from web team,  and http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download (Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server)  will be able to be working after all for this release.18:02
pittiskaet: that's easy: cdimage.u.c. only has a handful of mirrors and only is the DC18:02
skaetDC?18:02
pittiskaet: i. e. we use it for alphas, ports, DVDs, and anything else which won't get millions of download (which our DC alone couldn't sustain)18:02
pittiskaet: data center18:02
skaetahh,  ok.18:03
skaetcool18:03
pittiskaet: releases.u.c. gets mirrored around the world, and has the most popular images18:03
pittiskaet: but DVDs, ports, etc. are simply too big to get mirrored so widely18:03
pitti(and at the same time are much less popular)18:03
skaet:)18:03
skaetAm interested in the criteria used for deciding "popular images",  I imagine its based on some download statistics from James   :)18:05
pittiskaet: right now that's ubuntu/kubuntu desktop+alternate, and server18:06
pittiskaet: the DVDs are too big, and e. g. xubuntu doesn't have so many downloads that it would need a worldwide mirror network, i. e. we can sustain that18:07
skaetpitti,  thanks!18:07
pittiah, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ doesn't have arm, sorry; fixed TechOver18:09
pittilast Ubuntun DVD rsyncing, the rest should be fairly quick18:10
skaetthanks pitti18:10
pittiskaet, cjwatson: I suppose http://releases.ubuntu.com/ html should also have "Ubuntu Natty Narwhal Beta-1" in the release list? want me to fudge the html?18:11
* skaet looking18:11
cjwatsonyeah, that needs to be fudged by hand - I'll do it18:12
cjwatson(.htaccess too)18:13
skaetpitti, cjwatson  yes,  thanks - "Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)"18:13
pittiah, thanks18:14
cjwatsondone.  sync at your leisure18:14
cjwatson(I haven't synced it out, didn't know what state you were in)18:14
GrueMasterpitti: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/kubuntu-11.04-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz appears to be from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110330/ not http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110330.1/18:18
pittiARCHES='armel+omap armel+omap4' for-project kubuntu publish-release daily-preinstalled 20110330 preinstalled-desktop named beta-118:20
pittiGrueMaster: right; I'm afraid our script only builds them together18:20
pittiGrueMaster: hang on, I'll update it18:20
cjwatsons/builds/publishes/?18:21
pitti^ yes18:21
cjwatsonodd though, I thought I made it notice that18:21
GrueMasterls18:21
cjwatsonmaybe I missed something18:21
GrueMasteroops18:21
GrueMasterI don't think the link was updated on iso.qa when the omap4 images were respun.18:22
GrueMasterThe kubuntu images were done last.18:22
GrueMasterNot a major deal.18:22
pittiGrueMaster: publishhing the 30.1 image now18:22
cjwatsonGrueMaster: I'm pretty sure skaet and I updated the links between us18:23
GrueMasterThanks.  I pull a separate copy of released images and compare them to the daily images I tested with.  That's how I noticed.18:23
GrueMastercjwatson: Not trying to point blame.  Just making sure the tested images are the same as in the release.18:24
cjwatsonsure, just a point of information18:24
pittiGrueMaster: published, syncing out now; the date looks better now, from 15:4118:27
pittiinstead of 05:something18:27
pittiGrueMaster: thanks for noticing!18:27
GrueMasterAlso, we may want to rename the ubuntu netbook armel images before final.  ubuntu-netbook-11.04-beta1-preinstalled-netbook* is redundantly redundant.  :P18:28
ogra_how did the last netbook get into that ?18:29
ogra_i thnk thats coming from the way publish-release was called18:30
GrueMasterogra_: Our image names are natty-preinstalled-netbook-armel*.  The release names are s/natty/ubuntu-netbook-11.04-beta1.  Just need to remove the first netbook.18:30
pittihttp://releases.ubuntu.com/ has a shiny natty link now, thanks cjwatson18:31
skaet:)18:31
pittiok, CD syncing will still take a bit; I'll grab some dinner in the meantime18:31
GrueMasterubuntu-headless is the same namewise.18:32
ogra_GrueMaster, well, ubuntu-netbook is the flavour name, the imagetype shouldnt get a piece from the flavour added18:33
ogra_imho it should be <flavour>-<release>-<type>-arch+subarch.img.gz18:33
ogra_i.e. ubuntu-netbook-11.04-preinstalled-armel+omap4.img.gz18:34
GrueMasterok, so the script needs to be fixed to strip out the second redundant name.18:35
ogra_see pittis call of the script above18:35
ogra_for-project kubuntu publish-release daily-preinstalled 20110330 preinstalled-desktop named beta-118:36
ogra_it just needs the -desktop dropped on the third last arg18:36
GrueMasterogra_: Why are you telling me how the process works?  I'm only pointing out a minor naming issue.  I don't care how to fix it or if it gets fixed.  I'm just pointing it out.18:39
GrueMasterDo you want me to fix it?18:39
ogra_??18:39
pittiGrueMaster: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/ has the current image now18:41
GrueMasterOk, thanks.18:41
pittihm, all other images are synced now, but http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/ is blatantly missing18:43
* pitti fiddles18:43
pittioh18:44
pittiDaily for natty amd64 on 20110329.1 is oversized! Continue?18:44
pittiwell, I suppose "yet"18:44
pitti"yes"18:44
pittiskaet: rsync complete; all links on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview "in addition, they can be found" work now18:51
pittiskaet: the http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download meta-link is still outdated at least for me (it redirects to a nearby German mirror)18:51
pittiskaet: can you try whether it works for you?18:52
skaetthanks pitti.   :)  All the direct links are working18:52
pitti(different mirrors take a different time to catch up)18:52
skaetcheckting testing now.18:52
pittihm, another German mirror is behind as well18:52
pittiseems these still need a bit18:53
pittiskaet: bug on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing -- it says "Beta", should be "Beta 1"18:53
pitti(and the link is still broken)18:53
skaetpitti,  can you fix?18:54
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pittiskaet: no, that needs a webmaster19:02
skaetor do I need to get webteam on it.19:02
skaetheh19:02
skaetthat answers that19:02
skaet- ok,  on it.19:02
pittiskaet: (sorry, was at dinner; back for real now)19:02
pitticjwatson: do you happen to know whether there's somethign we can do about taking outdated mirrors out of the http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download redirector?19:05
slangasekpitti: ask LOSAs for a cdmirror probe?19:06
pittidoing that19:07
slangasekmake sure you have a reduced .manifest on releases19:07
slangasekotherwise the probe takes too long to be useful19:07
pittislangasek: we do19:07
slangasekok19:07
skaetpitti,slangasek.   mirrors starting to kick in now.  http://ubuntu-releases.eecs.wsu.edu/natty/19:07
pittiyeah, I've seen a few German mirrors updating as well19:08
pittiskaet: I pinged in #is19:08
skaetpitti, newz2000 will fix the typos.19:08
pittigreat19:08
skaetanyone else spot any?19:08
skaethmm,  just spotted we didn't have an NattyUpgrades page on the community documentation side:  went and created one.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades19:21
skaetit still needs some editing though.19:21
pittimirror prober seems to have helped, looking good now19:33
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jibelskaet, on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta the 1rst link at the top of the page (Download Beta) is broken20:39
jibelit should probably be "http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta#Download%20Beta%201" <- with a 1 at the end20:40
jibelwho is able to edit this page ?20:41
skaetjibel,  newz2000 is helping get it working.   thanks for catching.20:54
Riddellevening.  are we nearly there yet?21:26
highvoltageRiddell: according to omg!ubuntu! beta1 has been released for several hours now :)21:35
Riddellwow, they scoop us every time, how do they do it21:37
highvoltagethey're the fox news of ubuntuland :)21:42
skaetRiddell,  highvoltage - they see when we're testing the web sites.22:06
skaetannounce will be going out shortly after a last set of edits.22:07
pittigood night everyone22:25
highvoltagegood night pitti22:36
skaetgood night pitti22:59
skaetslangasek, cjwatson,  ubuntu-announce has gone out,  can you approve.22:59
cjwatsonI don't have privileges on -announce23:00
cjwatsononly -devel-announce23:00
cjwatsonbah, we should've removed the chroot-aware bit from the upstart section, since it doesn't work yet23:01
cjwatsonah well23:01
cjwatsonapproved the -devel-announce copy23:01
skaetthanks cjwatson23:05
slangasekskaet: I'm failing to remember how to get in to approve it; the passwords I have cached don't seem to be doing the job23:12
slangasekor I'm on the wrong page, which is possible23:13
skaetslangasek,  I'll go ping in #is23:13
skaetcan you go change the #ubuntu-devel topic?23:13
slangasekdone23:14
skaetthanks23:15
skaet:)23:15
skaetslangasek,  can you point me to the runes to let me do the posting on ubuntu release blog?23:27
* skaet finishing off the to do list23:27
slangasekskaet: log in at https://release-blog.ubuntu.com/wp-login.php; I think you have a login/password, let me know if I need to reset it23:27
slangasekconfirmed, your login is there23:30
skaetok,  sent off the request for it to be reset23:31
skaetslangasek,  thanks.23:31
slangasek"sent off a request" - I don't know where that request goes, probably nowhere useful :)  I'll reset it.23:32
slangasekhmmm but I don't have a button to generate a new password23:34
skaetslangasek, got one via email, and I'm in now.23:35
slangasekok23:35
skaetthanks for your help  :)23:35
slangasekthen maybe I've changed the password on you and locked you out again, heh23:35
slangasekwe'll find out next milestone!23:35
skaethmmph23:36
skaetnot working now. I'll try the one you just sent23:36
skaetyup,  that did it.   Am In now.  :)23:38
highvoltageyay beta 1 \o/23:53

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