=== jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [01:44] slangasek around? [03:56] Ugh, these SD cards are freaking slowww. oem-config has been running for 30 minutes on my beagleXM. Also need to restart the kubuntu-moble omap4 image testing (SD corruption). [03:57] Almost done booting into kubuntu desktop on my beagleXM. Past the login screen, just waiting for something to happen. [04:07] GrueMaster, thanks [05:08] I am almost finished with armel testing. The biggest time consumer is filing bugs and adding to the tracker. [05:09] I need to take a break (dinner and minor down time). Will be back in an hour to finish kubuntu-mobile on omap4. [06:55] I want to fail kubuntu-mobile on armel, but iso tracker requires a bug number. Problem is there is no display manager in the image. [06:59] GrueMaster: nodm is by design. [07:00] Well, I don't think console only is by design. Otherwise you might rather run headless. [07:00] True. [07:00] Am I miising a trick to running this? [07:01] (bad typing excluded) [07:01] Dunno. I'd ask rbelem or apachelogger on #kubuntu-mobile. [07:01] I do know it's supposed to have nodm instead of kdm so you don't have to login. [07:01] * ScottK needs to sleep. Good luck. [07:02] I'll give it one more go, then I'm out. [07:03] * skaet nods [07:35] skaet: I'm out. Get some sleep. :) [07:36] Thanks for your efforts! soon for me too... [08:05] Good morning [08:36] pitti, jibel, good morning. :) Interesting discussions with cjwatson on nasty wubi/grub bug in #ubuntu-testing backscroll - FYI. [08:36] skaet: hey, good morning [08:36] skaet: FYI, I just gave https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview some polishing [08:36] skaet: oh, wubi still broken? I noticed that cjwatson did a CD respin last night for wubi [08:37] yeah, memory corruption issue in grub exposed it looks like. [08:37] Hi skaet good night! I've read it. [08:37] In the introduction on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview [08:38] is the probably response to it. ie. we don't recommend using wubi. [08:38] with beta 1. [08:38] *nod* [08:38] pitti, the respin was to fix the label of the iso that wubi was not recognizing as a valid Ubuntu ISO. [08:39] pitti, feel free to go into the TechOverview and do more polishing. I still haven't finished translating/reviewing as worthy of mention, all those lovely new bugs. Big gap for me is the desktop/unity side. :) [08:39] skaet: ah, I was about to ask whether I should go through the known issues [08:40] yes please. [08:40] sure [08:41] also, feel free to start in on as much of the release checklist as possible. cjwatson only went to bed about 4 hours ago, so not sure when he'll be rolling on. [08:43] skaet: I can start the image publishing and all that, so that the mirrors can start pulling from the firehose [08:43] pitti, that would be good. The images that are there are the one's we'll be going with now. [08:43] skaet: ok, so aside from wubi no other catastrophes? [08:44] I do think there are some of the arm/kubuntu varients we may need to selectively review whether worth shipping or not, but you'll need ogra's input I think. [08:44] well, I'll run through the iso tracker again anyway, to pick up new fatal bugs [08:44] #u-testing, and look at GrueMaster's comments. [08:44] thanks. [08:45] * skaet feels that now that pitti is awake, its in good hands, and she can go to sleep. :) [08:45] skaet: heh, sleep well! [08:45] thanks. [08:45] good night ! [08:46] skaet, sleep well! [08:56] pitti,skaet: I'm here at the moment, though I normally start late on Thu [08:56] hey cjwatson [08:57] publish-image-set.py --prepublish should be fine to do [08:57] cjwatson: I'm currently updating the known issues on tech overview, and can then start the image publishing, if you want me to [08:57] sure, that'd be great === skaet is now known as skaet_zzz [08:57] how about I fix publish-image-set? [09:00] should work now (r236) [09:38] hm, publish-image-set doesnt seem happy (only has very few images), investigating [09:41] --prepublish doesn't have many because only a few need prepublication [09:41] (that got me too) [09:41] ah, of course [09:42] cjwatson: we don't have source isos on releases.u.c.? [09:42] (good from a mirror POV, just not sure about the legalese) [09:42] that reminds me, I need to run cron.source (running) [09:42] we don't [09:42] good [09:43] ideally we'd link to the source images [09:43] (directly rather than generally to cdimage) [09:43]

This directory contains the most frequently downloaded $CAPPROJECT [09:43] images. Other images, including DVDs and source CDs, may be available on the [09:43] cdimage server. [09:43] before publishing I'll do some cleanup first; at a3 we ran into -ENOSPC issues which caused a lot of confusion [09:44] I did some cleanup yesterday / the day before which may have helped [09:44] check with IS how much space is free, I guess [09:45] ah, good [09:55] ok, removed quite some old images (including two old edubuntu DVDs, etc.) [10:00] cjwatson: mirrors are busy now [10:03] cjwatson: can I also already publish the source isos? (as they take aaages to sync, even just to cdimage mirrors), or does your cron.source thing still need to run? [10:09] cjwaston: ah, I see the cronjob, nevermind [10:09] I'll wait for that [10:12] * pitti goes back to banging on techoverview [10:18] skaet_zzz: FYI, I'm summarizing related bugs in the tech overview, and also remove unimportant ones (such as deprecation warnings), to make the page a little easier to understand and read [10:36] ogra_: would you like to review the "Ubuntu Netbook on ARM" and "Ubuntu Headless" sections on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview ? [10:46] cjwatson: publishing beta-1 source isos to cdimage now (as this takes ages) [10:52] cjwatson: I also moved the alpha-3 images to ../old-images, but did _not_ sync that yet [10:53] cjwatson: so the remaining thing to do now is the publish-image-set.py minus src [11:08] I need to disappear for a couple of hours for doctor appointment, some errands and lunch, sorry; should be back when the action resumes, though [11:14] source> ta [11:14] I get upset mails and bug reports from John Gilmore if we don't get the source images done properly [11:24] pitti, added and reviewed === doko_ is now known as doko [13:43] out for a while (taking the car for its yearly test, so of course I'll have to walk back) [13:48] re [13:48] ogra_: thanks [13:51] pitti, about the kubuntu arm images, i have no idea which ones should get published, you will need to ask the owner [13:52] Riddell, ScottK: who owns/decides about the maturity of kubuntu arm images? [13:52] there was a wikipage with a list of owners [13:53] * ogra_ digs [13:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseImageContacts [13:54] ah, thanks [13:55] bug 712061 sounds like it would affect omap3 and omap4 [13:55] Launchpad bug 712061 in kubuntu-mobile-default-settings (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "kubuntu mobile images fail to load (affects: 1) (heat: 70)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712061 [13:56] pinged rbelem in devel [13:58] pitti, we dont have live images on armel [13:58] so loop device or squashfs issues are not for us [13:59] hmm, that bug turns into something completely different at the end [14:01] pitti, the nodm stuff might or might not affect armel, the initial bug description surely *isnt* an armel issue [14:32] since this is "it", I wonder whether we could just thaw uploads again [14:32] has skaet said she's OK to go with what we have? [14:33] that's what she said this morning, /me checks logs [14:33] 2011-03-31 09:43:30 skaet pitti, that would be good. The images that are there are the one's we'll be g [14:33] oing with now. [14:33] (argh, c&p from less sucks [14:34] so, wubi is officially declared broken, and the kubuntu mobile images as well [14:34] the rest looks okay [14:35] pitti: I think powerpc is broken too. [14:35] right [14:36] the wubi bug looks like it may be due to an incorrect limit in GRUB's NTFS implementation [14:37] the error isn't actually printed, but gdb seems to be revealing a "read out of range" error, which is only generated in a single place in ntfs.c [14:38] If we're ~sure this is it, perhaps I could go ahead and accept gcc-4.4? It will take a long time to build and isn't the default gcc, so even if we are wrong and respin something it's unlikely to have any effect? [14:38] I'd be happy with that [14:38] OK. [14:39] Done. [15:11] cjwatson: hm, I can't find a bug report about the wubi failure (i. e. the grub2 memory corruption), is there one? (I checked wubi and grub2, and the ISO tracker) === skaet_zzz is now known as skaet [15:12] hey skaet, good morning [15:12] morning all [15:12] any new breakages overnight from the remaining tests? [15:13] pitti, I filed bug 746257 but the title is not really clear since I didn't know what's the problem was. [15:13] Launchpad bug 746257 in wubi "Wubi fails to boot. User dropped to a grub shell (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746257 [15:13] skaet: nothing new; so wubi, powerpc, and kubuntu mobile are officially declared broken, the rest ought to work [15:13] jibel: ah, thanks; I'll add that as a reference to the tech note [15:14] thanks pitti. [15:14] skaet: ok, that just fixed the remaining "TODO" item in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview, should be fairly complete now (also see my mumblings in backscroll) [15:14] * skaet looking [15:14] skaet: images are pre-published and should be mirrored, old images cleaned up [15:15] skaet: so I'm by and large now waiting for "the word" to publish the images, and have natty unfreeze (stuff is queueing up and we really don't want to land that on a Friday) [15:15] pitti: Once we start unfreezing, I'd suggest we let loose things like the pkg-binarymangler that might affect other builds first so we don't end up with another late Friday post-milestone breakage problem when no one is around. [15:15] skaet: note that publishing the images will still take a bit [15:16] ScottK: both pkgbinarymangler and pkg-create-dbgsym are rather harmless really, but can do [15:16] That was just an example. [15:16] Thanks. [15:16] right [15:21] * skaet went through backscroll and all looks reasonable. :). [15:21] pitti, thank you for the editing of the bugs! [15:21] yw [15:21] * skaet *hugs* pitti [15:21] * pitti hugs back Kate [15:22] skaet: so, please let me know when I should push the publish and thaw buttons [15:23] pitti, will do. negotiating with web publishing now (rhlee is doing it this time) [15:23] skaet: as I said, we'll need at least one or two hours time in advance to the web publishing [15:23] well, let's say one [15:24] heh. [15:25] Morning. I'm looking over the TechOverview and see one thing that can be removed. Under Ubuntu Netbook on Arm, No visual feedback on the splashscreen during jasper run. (728335) is now working. [15:25] GrueMaster, cool. just go delete [15:25] hm, sorry, I thought I already removed all the fix released bugs [15:25] pitti, they are a shifting target right up to the last minute. [15:26] Apparently the bug wasn't properly updated. [15:26] ah, phew [15:28] pitti, where are the headless, arm, kubuntu mobile images going to be coming down from. We're also not shipping the uce-images, so we probably need to make some mention of that. [15:28] * skaet goes and deletes the uec-images ref from the download beta 1 list [15:30] skaet: everythign but ubuntu/kubuntu desktop/alternates/server will be on cdimage, as usual [15:30] skaet: i. e. arm, xubuntu, ubuntu DVD, source, tec. [15:30] "etc" [15:30] I think we won't ship any kubuntu-mobile this milestone. [15:31] Riddell: ^^^ ? [15:31] that, too (see above) [15:31] right, don't [15:31] pitti, where are the ec2 images? [15:31] skaet: that's a mystery I still haven't learned about -- smoser usually does the right thing to them to publish them [15:31] :) [15:32] are we ready to push go ? [15:32] smoser: when skaet says the world, we can both push our buttons and see who publishes faster :) [15:32] http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110329/ will be promoted, it has been pre-published. [15:32] "the race of the rsyncs" [15:33] smoser, what path should I reference in the release notes for folks to pull those images from for beta? [15:33] * skaet just reads [15:34] smoser: would that be http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ eventually? [15:34] http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ (Ubuntu Server for EC2) ? ok? [15:34] right. [15:34] smoser: btw, you might want to remove http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-3.tmp/ ? [15:34] oh. yeah, sorry. [15:34] http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ [15:34] i'll ditch that tmp file. [15:35] gone [15:41] hmm, ubuntu-headless looks like it needs to be added to the list. [15:41] pitti, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/releases/natty/beta-1/ [15:41] seem about right? [15:42] skaet: yes, looks fine to me [15:42] yup, thats the right path [15:42] cool. adding it. [15:43] publish-release.py doesn't know about the headless images yet; I'll try to crowbar that in in the meantime [15:43] cd [15:43] erk, focus [15:44] thanks. [15:44] oops, sorry, i should have added it ... [15:44] I mean, publish-image-set [15:45] I thought that some of the images would also go on /testing/ as well, but waiting feedback from web team [15:45] ogra_: headless is armel+omap and armel+omap4 as well? [15:46] pitti: please could you accept perl before the general unfreeze? [15:46] doko: noted [15:46] doko: and let that publish, or you just want it to start building first? [15:46] pitti: start building, so that I don't see that many build failures in the rebuild test [15:47] same for doxygen [15:47] ack [15:47] no problem [15:47] the latter maybe now, it's not on any image [15:48] doko: done [15:48] in general I'll walk through and accept the lower-level stuff first [15:49] pitti, hmm, what about the netboot images? [15:50] I'll take care of the HTML pages for netboot [15:50] where's the manifest page? [15:58] cjwatson, manifest page is a bit stale (on the todo), but indicates cdimage for netboot. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest [16:00] pitti: please accept gdc-4.4 too (packages b-d on gdc currently ftbfs) [16:00] is that architecture list still what you want published? [16:00] doko: done [16:01] pitti: same for gnat-4.4 (which will fail to build immediately, needing manual lamont love (or hate)) [16:01] doko: done [16:02] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/11.04/beta-1/ (not synced out yet, but that's where it'll be) [16:09] cjwatson, I'll be updating manifest to reflect what we've gotten testing agreement to on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseImageContacts [16:10] will add that netboot path in the release notes - thanks! [16:11] cjwatson: FYI, r237 now handles ubuntu-headless (erk ugly code) [16:12] yeah, that stuff isn't fun. thanks [16:13] pitti: and finally gcj-4.4 [16:13] skaet: hm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest doesn't have the headless armel images? [16:14] done [16:14] I guess that's now "bye-bye buildds" until today :) [16:14] "tomorrow" I mean [16:14] pitti, thanks. yeah, manifest needs a good scrub. [16:17] skaet: do you think it's ok to thaw now? (sorry for nagging, but it's getting late, I need IS for that, and we _really_ don't want to defer that until tomorrow) [16:18] pitti, yeah, I just checked with jibel, and it doesn't look like anything that's left could become a show stopper (beyone what we know) [16:18] pitti, go ahead with the unthaw and turning on the auto jobes. [16:18] jobs even [16:19] skaet: ok, cool; I'll accept the low-level stuff then, and ask for thawing [16:19] skaet: CD cronjobs can certainly wait until tomorrow, no rush with them [16:19] pitti: thanks for dealing with the publishing; I know I was on the hook for the last stages [16:20] cjwatson: no worries; you barely slept for 4 hours, happy to help you a bit [16:39] Hi, Has the archive thawed now? [16:41] Daviey: it would explain why all those packages got removed [16:41] thawed, uploads work again [16:41] queues cleared [16:43] pitti, so i should have pushed 'go'? [16:43] smoser: I didn't publish CD images yet, still waiting for skaet's go [16:43] ah. ok. [16:43] smoser: that's just the natty uploads, so that we stop blocking development [16:44] pitti, smoser, go ahead now. I don't see any blockers at this point. [16:44] skaet: ack [16:45] dandy [17:02] now that the archive is thawed, could someone NEW linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 ? [17:04] * skaet -> food, biab [17:13] cjwatson: I now published all images and updated HEADER.html, but I didn't mangle manifest yet [17:13] want me to? [17:14] is that www/./simple/.manifest ? [17:14] yes [17:14] cjwatson: what needs changing there? [17:14] I'll do it and you can look at the diff [17:14] thanks [17:15] cjwatson: and where is the counterpart for kubuntu? [17:15] diff -u .manifest.full .manifest [17:15] it's all in that file [17:16] cjwatson: ah, I see; so that's only temoprary for faster mirror sync? [17:17] yes [17:17] faster mirror probing actually [17:18] ok, www diff looks good [17:18] anything else? if not, I'll press the sync-mirrors button [17:19] there, syncing [17:20] skaet: I'll supervise the syncing and tell you when it's done [17:21] skaet: oops, TechOverview has "cdimage" for u/kubuntu, fixing [17:21] skaet: it's releases.u.c. [17:37] pitti, cjwatson: can I get linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 NEWed? I hate to nag, but we're about to have a meta package upload for the kernel that also references LBM binaries. not the end of the world for sure, but annoying nonetheless. [17:38] skaet: release.u.c. links added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview, and updated descriptions [17:38] tgardner: done [17:38] pitti, thanks [17:50] http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ is live now. [17:58] edu and kubuntu DVDs finally rsynced, whew [18:01] pitti, thanks. Remind me to corner you at UDS for a description of why the links change from cdimages to releases for beta and the background as to the which images are selected. [18:02] pitti, smoser - just heard back from web team, and http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download (Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server) will be able to be working after all for this release. [18:02] skaet: that's easy: cdimage.u.c. only has a handful of mirrors and only is the DC [18:02] DC? [18:02] skaet: i. e. we use it for alphas, ports, DVDs, and anything else which won't get millions of download (which our DC alone couldn't sustain) [18:02] skaet: data center [18:03] ahh, ok. [18:03] cool [18:03] skaet: releases.u.c. gets mirrored around the world, and has the most popular images [18:03] skaet: but DVDs, ports, etc. are simply too big to get mirrored so widely [18:03] (and at the same time are much less popular) [18:03] :) [18:05] Am interested in the criteria used for deciding "popular images", I imagine its based on some download statistics from James :) [18:06] skaet: right now that's ubuntu/kubuntu desktop+alternate, and server [18:07] skaet: the DVDs are too big, and e. g. xubuntu doesn't have so many downloads that it would need a worldwide mirror network, i. e. we can sustain that [18:07] pitti, thanks! [18:09] ah, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ doesn't have arm, sorry; fixed TechOver [18:10] last Ubuntun DVD rsyncing, the rest should be fairly quick [18:10] thanks pitti [18:11] skaet, cjwatson: I suppose http://releases.ubuntu.com/ html should also have "Ubuntu Natty Narwhal Beta-1" in the release list? want me to fudge the html? [18:11] * skaet looking [18:12] yeah, that needs to be fudged by hand - I'll do it [18:13] (.htaccess too) [18:13] pitti, cjwatson yes, thanks - "Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)" [18:14] ah, thanks [18:14] done. sync at your leisure [18:14] (I haven't synced it out, didn't know what state you were in) [18:18] pitti: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/kubuntu-11.04-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz appears to be from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110330/ not http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110330.1/ [18:20] ARCHES='armel+omap armel+omap4' for-project kubuntu publish-release daily-preinstalled 20110330 preinstalled-desktop named beta-1 [18:20] GrueMaster: right; I'm afraid our script only builds them together [18:20] GrueMaster: hang on, I'll update it [18:21] s/builds/publishes/? [18:21] ^ yes [18:21] odd though, I thought I made it notice that [18:21] ls [18:21] maybe I missed something [18:21] oops [18:22] I don't think the link was updated on iso.qa when the omap4 images were respun. [18:22] The kubuntu images were done last. [18:22] Not a major deal. [18:22] GrueMaster: publishhing the 30.1 image now [18:23] GrueMaster: I'm pretty sure skaet and I updated the links between us [18:23] Thanks. I pull a separate copy of released images and compare them to the daily images I tested with. That's how I noticed. [18:24] cjwatson: Not trying to point blame. Just making sure the tested images are the same as in the release. [18:24] sure, just a point of information [18:27] GrueMaster: published, syncing out now; the date looks better now, from 15:41 [18:27] instead of 05:something [18:27] GrueMaster: thanks for noticing! [18:28] Also, we may want to rename the ubuntu netbook armel images before final. ubuntu-netbook-11.04-beta1-preinstalled-netbook* is redundantly redundant. :P [18:29] how did the last netbook get into that ? [18:30] i thnk thats coming from the way publish-release was called [18:30] ogra_: Our image names are natty-preinstalled-netbook-armel*. The release names are s/natty/ubuntu-netbook-11.04-beta1. Just need to remove the first netbook. [18:31] http://releases.ubuntu.com/ has a shiny natty link now, thanks cjwatson [18:31] :) [18:31] ok, CD syncing will still take a bit; I'll grab some dinner in the meantime [18:32] ubuntu-headless is the same namewise. [18:33] GrueMaster, well, ubuntu-netbook is the flavour name, the imagetype shouldnt get a piece from the flavour added [18:33] imho it should be ---arch+subarch.img.gz [18:34] i.e. ubuntu-netbook-11.04-preinstalled-armel+omap4.img.gz [18:35] ok, so the script needs to be fixed to strip out the second redundant name. [18:35] see pittis call of the script above [18:36] for-project kubuntu publish-release daily-preinstalled 20110330 preinstalled-desktop named beta-1 [18:36] it just needs the -desktop dropped on the third last arg [18:39] ogra_: Why are you telling me how the process works? I'm only pointing out a minor naming issue. I don't care how to fix it or if it gets fixed. I'm just pointing it out. [18:39] Do you want me to fix it? [18:39] ?? [18:41] GrueMaster: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/ has the current image now [18:41] Ok, thanks. [18:43] hm, all other images are synced now, but http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/ is blatantly missing [18:43] * pitti fiddles [18:44] oh [18:44] Daily for natty amd64 on 20110329.1 is oversized! Continue? [18:44] well, I suppose "yet" [18:44] "yes" [18:51] skaet: rsync complete; all links on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview "in addition, they can be found" work now [18:51] skaet: the http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download meta-link is still outdated at least for me (it redirects to a nearby German mirror) [18:52] skaet: can you try whether it works for you? [18:52] thanks pitti. :) All the direct links are working [18:52] (different mirrors take a different time to catch up) [18:52] checkting testing now. [18:52] hm, another German mirror is behind as well [18:53] seems these still need a bit [18:53] skaet: bug on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing -- it says "Beta", should be "Beta 1" [18:53] (and the link is still broken) [18:54] pitti, can you fix? === tgardner is now known as tgardner-lunch [19:02] skaet: no, that needs a webmaster [19:02] or do I need to get webteam on it. [19:02] heh [19:02] that answers that [19:02] - ok, on it. [19:02] skaet: (sorry, was at dinner; back for real now) [19:05] cjwatson: do you happen to know whether there's somethign we can do about taking outdated mirrors out of the http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download redirector? [19:06] pitti: ask LOSAs for a cdmirror probe? [19:07] doing that [19:07] make sure you have a reduced .manifest on releases [19:07] otherwise the probe takes too long to be useful [19:07] slangasek: we do [19:07] ok [19:07] pitti,slangasek. mirrors starting to kick in now. http://ubuntu-releases.eecs.wsu.edu/natty/ [19:08] yeah, I've seen a few German mirrors updating as well [19:08] skaet: I pinged in #is [19:08] pitti, newz2000 will fix the typos. [19:08] great [19:08] anyone else spot any? [19:21] hmm, just spotted we didn't have an NattyUpgrades page on the community documentation side: went and created one. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades [19:21] it still needs some editing though. [19:33] mirror prober seems to have helped, looking good now === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === tgardner-lunch is now known as tgardner [20:39] skaet, on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta the 1rst link at the top of the page (Download Beta) is broken [20:40] it should probably be "http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta#Download%20Beta%201" <- with a 1 at the end [20:41] who is able to edit this page ? [20:54] jibel, newz2000 is helping get it working. thanks for catching. [21:26] evening. are we nearly there yet? [21:35] Riddell: according to omg!ubuntu! beta1 has been released for several hours now :) [21:37] wow, they scoop us every time, how do they do it [21:42] they're the fox news of ubuntuland :) [22:06] Riddell, highvoltage - they see when we're testing the web sites. [22:07] announce will be going out shortly after a last set of edits. [22:25] good night everyone [22:36] good night pitti [22:59] good night pitti [22:59] slangasek, cjwatson, ubuntu-announce has gone out, can you approve. [23:00] I don't have privileges on -announce [23:00] only -devel-announce [23:01] bah, we should've removed the chroot-aware bit from the upstart section, since it doesn't work yet [23:01] ah well [23:01] approved the -devel-announce copy [23:05] thanks cjwatson [23:12] skaet: I'm failing to remember how to get in to approve it; the passwords I have cached don't seem to be doing the job [23:13] or I'm on the wrong page, which is possible [23:13] slangasek, I'll go ping in #is [23:13] can you go change the #ubuntu-devel topic? [23:14] done [23:15] thanks [23:15] :) [23:27] slangasek, can you point me to the runes to let me do the posting on ubuntu release blog? [23:27] * skaet finishing off the to do list [23:27] skaet: log in at https://release-blog.ubuntu.com/wp-login.php; I think you have a login/password, let me know if I need to reset it [23:30] confirmed, your login is there [23:31] ok, sent off the request for it to be reset [23:31] slangasek, thanks. [23:32] "sent off a request" - I don't know where that request goes, probably nowhere useful :) I'll reset it. [23:34] hmmm but I don't have a button to generate a new password [23:35] slangasek, got one via email, and I'm in now. [23:35] ok [23:35] thanks for your help :) [23:35] then maybe I've changed the password on you and locked you out again, heh [23:35] we'll find out next milestone! [23:36] hmmph [23:36] not working now. I'll try the one you just sent [23:38] yup, that did it. Am In now. :) [23:53] yay beta 1 \o/