[01:44] <skaet> slangasek around?
[03:56] <GrueMaster> Ugh, these SD cards are freaking slowww.  oem-config has been running for 30 minutes on my beagleXM.  Also need to restart the kubuntu-moble omap4 image testing (SD corruption).
[03:57] <GrueMaster> Almost done booting into kubuntu desktop on my beagleXM.  Past the login screen, just waiting for something to happen.
[04:07] <skaet> GrueMaster, thanks
[05:08] <GrueMaster> I am almost finished with armel testing.  The biggest time consumer is filing bugs and adding to the tracker.
[05:09] <GrueMaster> I need to take a break (dinner and minor down time).  Will be back in an hour to finish kubuntu-mobile on omap4.
[06:55] <GrueMaster> I want to fail kubuntu-mobile on armel, but iso tracker requires a bug number.  Problem is there is no display manager in the image.
[06:59] <ScottK> GrueMaster: nodm is by design.
[07:00] <GrueMaster> Well, I don't think console only is by design.  Otherwise you might rather run headless.
[07:00] <ScottK> True.
[07:00] <GrueMaster> Am I miising a trick to running this?
[07:01] <GrueMaster> (bad typing excluded)
[07:01] <ScottK> Dunno.  I'd ask rbelem or apachelogger on #kubuntu-mobile.
[07:01] <ScottK> I do know it's supposed to have nodm instead of kdm so you don't have to login.
[07:01]  * ScottK needs to sleep.  Good luck.
[07:02] <GrueMaster> I'll give it one more go, then I'm out.
[07:03]  * skaet nods
[07:35] <GrueMaster> skaet: I'm out.  Get some sleep.  :)
[07:36] <skaet> Thanks for your efforts!  soon for me too...
[08:05] <pitti> Good morning
[08:36] <skaet> pitti, jibel,  good morning.  :)   Interesting discussions with cjwatson on nasty wubi/grub bug in #ubuntu-testing backscroll - FYI.
[08:36] <pitti> skaet: hey, good morning
[08:36] <pitti> skaet: FYI, I just gave https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview some polishing
[08:36] <pitti> skaet: oh, wubi still broken? I noticed that cjwatson did a CD respin last night for wubi
[08:37] <skaet> yeah,  memory corruption issue in grub exposed it looks like.
[08:37] <jibel> Hi skaet good night! I've read it.
[08:37] <skaet> In the introduction on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview
[08:38] <skaet> is the probably response to it.   ie. we don't recommend using wubi.
[08:38] <skaet> with beta 1.
[08:38] <pitti> *nod*
[08:38] <jibel> pitti, the respin was to fix the label of the iso that wubi was not recognizing as a valid Ubuntu ISO.
[08:39] <skaet> pitti, feel free to go into the TechOverview and do more polishing.   I still haven't finished translating/reviewing as worthy of mention, all those lovely new bugs.    Big gap for me is the desktop/unity side.  :)
[08:39] <pitti> skaet: ah, I was about to ask whether I should go through the known issues
[08:40] <skaet> yes please.
[08:40] <pitti> sure
[08:41] <skaet> also,  feel free to start in on as much of the release checklist as possible.   cjwatson only went to bed about 4 hours ago, so not sure when he'll be rolling on.
[08:43] <pitti> skaet: I can start the image publishing and all that, so that the mirrors can start pulling from the firehose
[08:43] <skaet> pitti, that would be good.   The images that are there are the one's we'll be going with now.
[08:43] <pitti> skaet: ok, so aside from wubi no other catastrophes?
[08:44] <skaet> I do think there are some of the arm/kubuntu varients we may need to selectively review whether worth shipping or not,  but you'll need ogra's input I think.
[08:44] <pitti> well, I'll run through the iso tracker again anyway, to pick up new fatal bugs
[08:44] <skaet> #u-testing, and look at GrueMaster's comments.
[08:44] <skaet> thanks.
[08:45]  * skaet feels that now that pitti is awake, its in good hands, and she can go to sleep.  :)
[08:45] <pitti> skaet: heh, sleep well!
[08:45] <skaet> thanks.
[08:45] <mvo> good night !
[08:46] <jibel> skaet, sleep well!
[08:56] <cjwatson> pitti,skaet: I'm here at the moment, though I normally start late on Thu
[08:56] <pitti> hey cjwatson
[08:57] <cjwatson> publish-image-set.py --prepublish should be fine to do
[08:57] <pitti> cjwatson: I'm currently updating the known issues on tech overview, and can then start the image publishing, if you want me to
[08:57] <cjwatson> sure, that'd be great
[08:57] <cjwatson> how about I fix publish-image-set?
[09:00] <cjwatson> should work now (r236)
[09:38] <pitti> hm, publish-image-set doesnt seem happy (only has very few images), investigating
[09:41] <cjwatson> --prepublish doesn't have many because only a few need prepublication
[09:41] <cjwatson> (that got me too)
[09:41] <pitti> ah, of course
[09:42] <pitti> cjwatson: we don't have source isos on releases.u.c.?
[09:42] <pitti> (good from a mirror POV, just not sure about the legalese)
[09:42] <cjwatson> that reminds me, I need to run cron.source (running)
[09:42] <cjwatson> we don't
[09:42] <pitti> good
[09:43] <cjwatson> ideally we'd link to the source images
[09:43] <cjwatson> (directly rather than generally to cdimage)
This directory contains the most frequently downloaded $CAPPROJECT
[09:43] <cjwatson> images. Other images, including DVDs and source CDs, may be available on the
[09:43] <cjwatson> <a href="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/">cdimage server</a>.
[09:43] <pitti> before publishing I'll do some cleanup first; at a3 we ran into -ENOSPC issues which caused a lot of confusion
[09:44] <cjwatson> I did some cleanup yesterday / the day before which may have helped
[09:44] <cjwatson> check with IS how much space is free, I guess
[09:45] <pitti> ah, good
[09:55] <pitti> ok, removed quite some old images (including two old edubuntu DVDs, etc.)
[10:00] <pitti> cjwatson: mirrors are busy now
[10:03] <pitti> cjwatson: can I also already publish the source isos? (as they take aaages to sync, even just to cdimage mirrors), or does your cron.source thing still need to run?
[10:09] <pitti> cjwaston: ah, I see the cronjob, nevermind
[10:09] <pitti> I'll wait for that
[10:12]  * pitti goes back to banging on techoverview
[10:18] <pitti> skaet_zzz: FYI, I'm summarizing related bugs in the tech overview, and also remove unimportant ones (such as deprecation warnings), to make the page a little easier to understand and read
[10:36] <pitti> ogra_: would you like to review the "Ubuntu Netbook on ARM" and "Ubuntu Headless" sections on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview ?
[10:46] <pitti> cjwatson: publishing beta-1 source isos to cdimage now (as this takes ages)
[10:52] <pitti> cjwatson: I also moved the alpha-3 images to ../old-images, but did _not_ sync that yet
[10:53] <pitti> cjwatson: so the remaining thing to do now is the publish-image-set.py minus src
[11:08] <pitti> I need to disappear for a couple of hours for doctor appointment, some errands and lunch, sorry; should be back when the action resumes, though
[11:14] <cjwatson> source> ta
[11:14] <cjwatson> I get upset mails and bug reports from John Gilmore if we don't get the source images done properly
[11:24] <ogra_> pitti, added and reviewed
[13:43] <cjwatson> out for a while (taking the car for its yearly test, so of course I'll have to walk back)
[13:48] <pitti> re
[13:48] <pitti> ogra_: thanks
[13:51] <ogra_> pitti, about the kubuntu arm images, i have no idea which ones should get published, you will need to ask the owner
[13:52] <pitti> Riddell, ScottK: who owns/decides about the maturity of kubuntu arm images?
[13:52] <ogra_> there was a wikipage with a list of owners
[13:53]  * ogra_ digs 
[13:53] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseImageContacts
[13:54] <pitti> ah, thanks
[13:55] <pitti> bug 712061 sounds like it would affect omap3 and omap4
[13:55] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 712061 in kubuntu-mobile-default-settings (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "kubuntu mobile images fail to load (affects: 1) (heat: 70)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712061
[13:56] <pitti> pinged rbelem in devel
[13:58] <ogra_> pitti, we dont have live images on armel
[13:58] <ogra_> so loop device or squashfs issues are not for us
[13:59] <ogra_> hmm, that bug turns into something completely different at the end
[14:01] <ogra_> pitti, the nodm stuff might or might not affect armel, the initial bug description surely *isnt* an armel issue
[14:32] <pitti> since this is "it", I wonder whether we could just thaw uploads again
[14:32] <cjwatson> has skaet said she's OK to go with what we have?
[14:33] <pitti> that's what she said this morning, /me checks logs
[14:33] <pitti> 2011-03-31 09:43:30     skaet   pitti, that would be good.   The images that are there are the one's we'll be g
[14:33] <pitti> oing with now.
[14:33] <pitti> (argh, c&p from less sucks
[14:34] <pitti> so, wubi is officially declared broken, and the kubuntu mobile images as well
[14:34] <pitti> the rest looks okay
[14:35] <ScottK> pitti: I think powerpc is broken too.
[14:35] <pitti> right
[14:36] <cjwatson> the wubi bug looks like it may be due to an incorrect limit in GRUB's NTFS implementation
[14:37] <cjwatson> the error isn't actually printed, but gdb seems to be revealing a "read out of range" error, which is only generated in a single place in ntfs.c
[14:38] <ScottK> If we're ~sure this is it, perhaps I could go ahead and accept gcc-4.4?  It will take a long time to build and isn't the default gcc, so even if we are wrong and respin something it's unlikely to have any effect?
[14:38] <cjwatson> I'd be happy with that
[14:38] <ScottK> OK.
[14:39] <ScottK> Done.
[15:11] <pitti> cjwatson: hm, I can't find a bug report about the wubi failure (i. e. the grub2 memory corruption), is there one? (I checked wubi and grub2, and the ISO tracker)
[15:12] <pitti> hey skaet, good morning
[15:12] <skaet> morning all
[15:12] <skaet> any new breakages overnight from the remaining tests?
[15:13] <jibel> pitti, I filed bug 746257 but the title is not really clear since I didn't know what's the problem was.
[15:13] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 746257 in wubi "Wubi fails to boot. User dropped to a grub shell (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746257
[15:13] <pitti> skaet: nothing new; so wubi, powerpc, and kubuntu mobile are officially declared broken, the rest ought to work
[15:13] <pitti> jibel: ah, thanks; I'll add that as a reference to the tech note
[15:14] <skaet> thanks pitti.
[15:14] <pitti> skaet: ok, that just fixed the remaining "TODO" item in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview, should be fairly complete now (also see my mumblings in backscroll)
[15:14]  * skaet looking
[15:14] <pitti> skaet: images are pre-published and should be mirrored, old images cleaned up
[15:15] <pitti> skaet: so I'm by and large now waiting for "the word" to publish the images, and have natty unfreeze (stuff is queueing up and we really don't want to land that on a Friday)
[15:15] <ScottK> pitti: Once we start unfreezing, I'd suggest we let loose things like the pkg-binarymangler that might affect other builds first so we don't end up with another late Friday post-milestone breakage problem when no one is around.
[15:15] <pitti> skaet: note that publishing the images will still take a bit
[15:16] <pitti> ScottK: both pkgbinarymangler and pkg-create-dbgsym are rather harmless really, but can do
[15:16] <ScottK> That was just an example.
[15:16] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:16] <pitti> right
[15:21]  * skaet went through backscroll and all looks reasonable. :).   
[15:21] <skaet> pitti,   thank you for the editing of the bugs!
[15:21] <pitti> yw
[15:21]  * skaet *hugs* pitti
[15:21]  * pitti hugs back Kate
[15:22] <pitti> skaet: so, please let me know when I should push the publish and thaw buttons
[15:23] <skaet> pitti,  will do.  negotiating with web publishing now (rhlee is doing it this time)
[15:23] <pitti> skaet: as I said, we'll need at least one or two hours time in advance to the web publishing
[15:23] <pitti> well, let's say one
[15:24] <skaet> heh.
[15:25] <GrueMaster> Morning.  I'm looking over the TechOverview and see one thing that can be removed.  Under Ubuntu Netbook on Arm, No visual feedback on the splashscreen during jasper run. (728335) is now working.
[15:25] <skaet> GrueMaster,  cool.   just go delete
[15:25] <pitti> hm, sorry, I thought I already removed all the fix released bugs
[15:25] <skaet> pitti,  they are a shifting target right up to the last minute.
[15:26] <GrueMaster> Apparently the bug wasn't properly updated.
[15:26] <pitti> ah, phew
[15:28] <skaet> pitti,   where are the headless, arm, kubuntu mobile images going to be coming down from.    We're also not shipping the uce-images,  so we probably need to make some mention of that.
[15:28]  * skaet goes and deletes the uec-images ref from the download beta 1 list 
[15:30] <pitti> skaet: everythign but ubuntu/kubuntu desktop/alternates/server will be on cdimage, as usual
[15:30] <pitti> skaet: i. e. arm, xubuntu, ubuntu DVD, source, tec.
[15:30] <pitti> "etc"
[15:30] <ScottK> I think we won't ship any kubuntu-mobile this milestone.
[15:31] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ ?
[15:31] <pitti> that, too (see above)
[15:31] <Riddell> right, don't
[15:31] <skaet> pitti,  where are the ec2 images?
[15:31] <pitti> skaet: that's a mystery I still haven't learned about -- smoser usually does the right thing to them to publish them
[15:31] <smoser> :)
[15:32] <smoser> are we ready to push go ?
[15:32] <pitti> smoser: when skaet says the world, we can both push our buttons and see who publishes faster :)
[15:32] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110329/ will be promoted, it has been pre-published.
[15:32] <pitti> "the race of the rsyncs"
[15:33] <skaet> smoser,  what path should I reference in the release notes for folks to pull those images from for beta?
[15:33]  * skaet just reads
[15:34] <pitti> smoser: would that be http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ eventually?
[15:34] <skaet> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ (Ubuntu Server for  EC2)  ?  ok?
[15:34] <smoser> right.
[15:34] <pitti> smoser: btw, you might want to remove http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-3.tmp/ ?
[15:34] <smoser> oh. yeah, sorry.
[15:34] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/
[15:34] <smoser> i'll ditch that tmp file.
[15:35] <smoser> gone
[15:41] <skaet> hmm,  ubuntu-headless looks like it needs to be added to the list.
[15:41] <skaet> pitti, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/releases/natty/beta-1/
[15:41] <skaet> seem about right?
[15:42] <pitti> skaet: yes, looks fine to me
[15:42] <ogra_> yup, thats the right path
[15:42] <skaet> cool.  adding it.
[15:43] <pitti> publish-release.py doesn't know about the headless images yet; I'll try to crowbar that in in the meantime
[15:43] <pitti> cd
[15:43] <pitti> erk, focus
[15:44] <skaet> thanks.
[15:44] <ogra_> oops, sorry, i should have added it ...
[15:44] <pitti> I mean, publish-image-set
[15:45] <skaet> I thought that some of the images would also go on /testing/ as well, but waiting feedback from web team
[15:45] <pitti> ogra_: headless is armel+omap and armel+omap4 as well?
[15:46] <doko> pitti: please could you accept perl before the general unfreeze?
[15:46] <pitti> doko: noted
[15:46] <pitti> doko: and let that publish, or you just want it to start building first?
[15:46] <doko> pitti: start building, so that I don't see that many build failures in the rebuild test
[15:47] <doko> same for doxygen
[15:47] <pitti> ack
[15:47] <pitti> no problem
[15:47] <doko> the latter maybe now, it's not on any image
[15:48] <pitti> doko: done
[15:48] <pitti> in general I'll walk through and accept the lower-level stuff first
[15:49] <skaet> pitti,  hmm,  what about the netboot images?
[15:50] <cjwatson> I'll take care of the HTML pages for netboot
[15:50] <cjwatson> where's the manifest page?
[15:58] <skaet> cjwatson,  manifest page is a bit stale (on the todo), but indicates cdimage for netboot.   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest
[16:00] <doko> pitti: please accept gdc-4.4 too (packages b-d on gdc currently ftbfs)
[16:00] <cjwatson> is that architecture list still what you want published?
[16:00] <pitti> doko: done
[16:01] <doko> pitti: same for gnat-4.4 (which will fail to build immediately, needing manual lamont love (or hate))
[16:01] <pitti> doko: done
[16:02] <cjwatson> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/11.04/beta-1/ (not synced out yet, but that's where it'll be)
[16:09] <skaet> cjwatson,  I'll be updating manifest to reflect what we've gotten testing agreement to on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseImageContacts
[16:10] <skaet> will add that netboot path in the release notes - thanks!
[16:11] <pitti> cjwatson: FYI, r237 now handles ubuntu-headless (erk ugly code)
[16:12] <cjwatson> yeah, that stuff isn't fun.  thanks
[16:13] <doko> pitti: and finally gcj-4.4
[16:13] <pitti> skaet: hm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest doesn't have the headless armel images?
[16:14] <pitti> done
[16:14] <pitti> I guess that's now "bye-bye buildds" until today :)
[16:14] <pitti> "tomorrow" I mean
[16:14] <skaet> pitti,  thanks.   yeah,  manifest needs a good scrub.
[16:17] <pitti> skaet: do you think it's ok to thaw now? (sorry for nagging, but it's getting late, I need IS for that, and we _really_ don't want to defer that until tomorrow)
[16:18] <skaet> pitti,  yeah,  I just checked with jibel, and it doesn't look like anything that's left could become a show stopper (beyone what we know)
[16:18] <skaet> pitti,  go ahead with the unthaw and turning on the auto jobes.
[16:18] <skaet> jobs even
[16:19] <pitti> skaet: ok, cool; I'll accept the low-level stuff then, and ask for thawing
[16:19] <pitti> skaet: CD cronjobs can certainly wait until tomorrow, no rush with them
[16:19] <cjwatson> pitti: thanks for dealing with the publishing; I know I was on the hook for the last stages
[16:20] <pitti> cjwatson: no worries; you barely slept for 4 hours, happy to help you a bit
[16:39] <Daviey> Hi, Has the archive thawed now?
[16:41] <Riddell> Daviey: it would explain why all those packages got removed
[16:41] <pitti> thawed, uploads work again
[16:41] <pitti> queues cleared
[16:43] <smoser> pitti, so i should have pushed 'go'?
[16:43] <pitti> smoser: I didn't publish CD images yet, still waiting for skaet's go
[16:43] <smoser> ah. ok.
[16:43] <pitti> smoser: that's just the natty uploads, so that we stop blocking development
[16:44] <skaet> pitti,  smoser,   go ahead now.   I don't see any blockers at this point.
[16:44] <pitti> skaet: ack
[16:45] <Daviey> dandy
[17:02] <tgardner> now that the archive is thawed, could someone NEW linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 ?
[17:04]  * skaet -> food,  biab
[17:13] <pitti> cjwatson: I now published all images and updated HEADER.html, but I didn't mangle manifest yet
[17:13] <cjwatson> want me to?
[17:14] <pitti> is that www/./simple/.manifest ?
[17:14] <cjwatson> yes
[17:14] <pitti> cjwatson: what needs changing there?
[17:14] <cjwatson> I'll do it and you can look at the diff
[17:14] <pitti> thanks
[17:15] <pitti> cjwatson: and where is the counterpart for kubuntu?
[17:15] <cjwatson> diff -u .manifest.full .manifest
[17:15] <cjwatson> it's all in that file
[17:16] <pitti> cjwatson: ah, I see; so that's only temoprary for faster mirror sync?
[17:17] <cjwatson> yes
[17:17] <cjwatson> faster mirror probing actually
[17:18] <pitti> ok, www diff looks good
[17:18] <pitti> anything else? if not, I'll press the sync-mirrors button
[17:19] <pitti> there, syncing
[17:20] <pitti> skaet: I'll supervise the syncing and tell you when it's done
[17:21] <pitti> skaet: oops, TechOverview has "cdimage" for u/kubuntu, fixing
[17:21] <pitti> skaet: it's releases.u.c.
[17:37] <tgardner> pitti, cjwatson: can I get linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 NEWed? I hate to nag, but we're about to have a meta package upload for the kernel that also references LBM binaries. not the end of the world for sure, but annoying nonetheless.
[17:38] <pitti> skaet: release.u.c. links added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview, and updated descriptions
[17:38] <pitti> tgardner: done
[17:38] <tgardner> pitti, thanks
[17:50] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ is live now.
[17:58] <pitti> edu and kubuntu DVDs finally rsynced, whew
[18:01] <skaet> pitti,  thanks.    Remind me to corner you at UDS for a description of why the links change from cdimages to releases for beta and the background as to the which images are selected.
[18:02] <skaet> pitti, smoser - just heard back from web team,  and http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download (Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server)  will be able to be working after all for this release.
[18:02] <pitti> skaet: that's easy: cdimage.u.c. only has a handful of mirrors and only is the DC
[18:02] <skaet> DC?
[18:02] <pitti> skaet: i. e. we use it for alphas, ports, DVDs, and anything else which won't get millions of download (which our DC alone couldn't sustain)
[18:02] <pitti> skaet: data center
[18:03] <skaet> ahh,  ok.
[18:03] <skaet> cool
[18:03] <pitti> skaet: releases.u.c. gets mirrored around the world, and has the most popular images
[18:03] <pitti> skaet: but DVDs, ports, etc. are simply too big to get mirrored so widely
[18:03] <pitti> (and at the same time are much less popular)
[18:03] <skaet> :)
[18:05] <skaet> Am interested in the criteria used for deciding "popular images",  I imagine its based on some download statistics from James   :)
[18:06] <pitti> skaet: right now that's ubuntu/kubuntu desktop+alternate, and server
[18:07] <pitti> skaet: the DVDs are too big, and e. g. xubuntu doesn't have so many downloads that it would need a worldwide mirror network, i. e. we can sustain that
[18:07] <skaet> pitti,  thanks!
[18:09] <pitti> ah, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-1/ doesn't have arm, sorry; fixed TechOver
[18:10] <pitti> last Ubuntun DVD rsyncing, the rest should be fairly quick
[18:10] <skaet> thanks pitti
[18:11] <pitti> skaet, cjwatson: I suppose http://releases.ubuntu.com/ html should also have "Ubuntu Natty Narwhal Beta-1" in the release list? want me to fudge the html?
[18:11]  * skaet looking
[18:12] <cjwatson> yeah, that needs to be fudged by hand - I'll do it
[18:13] <cjwatson> (.htaccess too)
[18:13] <skaet> pitti, cjwatson  yes,  thanks - "Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)"
[18:14] <pitti> ah, thanks
[18:14] <cjwatson> done.  sync at your leisure
[18:14] <cjwatson> (I haven't synced it out, didn't know what state you were in)
[18:18] <GrueMaster> pitti: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/kubuntu-11.04-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz appears to be from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110330/ not http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110330.1/
[18:20] <pitti> ARCHES='armel+omap armel+omap4' for-project kubuntu publish-release daily-preinstalled 20110330 preinstalled-desktop named beta-1
[18:20] <pitti> GrueMaster: right; I'm afraid our script only builds them together
[18:20] <pitti> GrueMaster: hang on, I'll update it
[18:21] <cjwatson> s/builds/publishes/?
[18:21] <pitti> ^ yes
[18:21] <cjwatson> odd though, I thought I made it notice that
[18:21] <GrueMaster> ls
[18:21] <cjwatson> maybe I missed something
[18:21] <GrueMaster> oops
[18:22] <GrueMaster> I don't think the link was updated on iso.qa when the omap4 images were respun.
[18:22] <GrueMaster> The kubuntu images were done last.
[18:22] <GrueMaster> Not a major deal.
[18:22] <pitti> GrueMaster: publishhing the 30.1 image now
[18:23] <cjwatson> GrueMaster: I'm pretty sure skaet and I updated the links between us
[18:23] <GrueMaster> Thanks.  I pull a separate copy of released images and compare them to the daily images I tested with.  That's how I noticed.
[18:24] <GrueMaster> cjwatson: Not trying to point blame.  Just making sure the tested images are the same as in the release.
[18:24] <cjwatson> sure, just a point of information
[18:27] <pitti> GrueMaster: published, syncing out now; the date looks better now, from 15:41
[18:27] <pitti> instead of 05:something
[18:27] <pitti> GrueMaster: thanks for noticing!
[18:28] <GrueMaster> Also, we may want to rename the ubuntu netbook armel images before final.  ubuntu-netbook-11.04-beta1-preinstalled-netbook* is redundantly redundant.  :P
[18:29] <ogra_> how did the last netbook get into that ?
[18:30] <ogra_> i thnk thats coming from the way publish-release was called
[18:30] <GrueMaster> ogra_: Our image names are natty-preinstalled-netbook-armel*.  The release names are s/natty/ubuntu-netbook-11.04-beta1.  Just need to remove the first netbook.
[18:31] <pitti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ has a shiny natty link now, thanks cjwatson
[18:31] <skaet> :)
[18:31] <pitti> ok, CD syncing will still take a bit; I'll grab some dinner in the meantime
[18:32] <GrueMaster> ubuntu-headless is the same namewise.
[18:33] <ogra_> GrueMaster, well, ubuntu-netbook is the flavour name, the imagetype shouldnt get a piece from the flavour added
[18:33] <ogra_> imho it should be <flavour>-<release>-<type>-arch+subarch.img.gz
[18:34] <ogra_> i.e. ubuntu-netbook-11.04-preinstalled-armel+omap4.img.gz
[18:35] <GrueMaster> ok, so the script needs to be fixed to strip out the second redundant name.
[18:35] <ogra_> see pittis call of the script above
[18:36] <ogra_> for-project kubuntu publish-release daily-preinstalled 20110330 preinstalled-desktop named beta-1
[18:36] <ogra_> it just needs the -desktop dropped on the third last arg
[18:39] <GrueMaster> ogra_: Why are you telling me how the process works?  I'm only pointing out a minor naming issue.  I don't care how to fix it or if it gets fixed.  I'm just pointing it out.
[18:39] <GrueMaster> Do you want me to fix it?
[18:39] <ogra_> ??
[18:41] <pitti> GrueMaster: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/ has the current image now
[18:41] <GrueMaster> Ok, thanks.
[18:43] <pitti> hm, all other images are synced now, but http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/natty/beta-1/ is blatantly missing
[18:43]  * pitti fiddles
[18:44] <pitti> oh
[18:44] <pitti> Daily for natty amd64 on 20110329.1 is oversized! Continue?
[18:44] <pitti> well, I suppose "yet"
[18:44] <pitti> "yes"
[18:51] <pitti> skaet: rsync complete; all links on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview "in addition, they can be found" work now
[18:51] <pitti> skaet: the http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download meta-link is still outdated at least for me (it redirects to a nearby German mirror)
[18:52] <pitti> skaet: can you try whether it works for you?
[18:52] <skaet> thanks pitti.   :)  All the direct links are working
[18:52] <pitti> (different mirrors take a different time to catch up)
[18:52] <skaet> checkting testing now.
[18:52] <pitti> hm, another German mirror is behind as well
[18:53] <pitti> seems these still need a bit
[18:53] <pitti> skaet: bug on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing -- it says "Beta", should be "Beta 1"
[18:53] <pitti> (and the link is still broken)
[18:54] <skaet> pitti,  can you fix?
[19:02] <pitti> skaet: no, that needs a webmaster
[19:02] <skaet> or do I need to get webteam on it.
[19:02] <skaet> heh
[19:02] <skaet> that answers that
[19:02] <skaet> - ok,  on it.
[19:02] <pitti> skaet: (sorry, was at dinner; back for real now)
[19:05] <pitti> cjwatson: do you happen to know whether there's somethign we can do about taking outdated mirrors out of the http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download redirector?
[19:06] <slangasek> pitti: ask LOSAs for a cdmirror probe?
[19:07] <pitti> doing that
[19:07] <slangasek> make sure you have a reduced .manifest on releases
[19:07] <slangasek> otherwise the probe takes too long to be useful
[19:07] <pitti> slangasek: we do
[19:07] <slangasek> ok
[19:07] <skaet> pitti,slangasek.   mirrors starting to kick in now.  http://ubuntu-releases.eecs.wsu.edu/natty/
[19:08] <pitti> yeah, I've seen a few German mirrors updating as well
[19:08] <pitti> skaet: I pinged in #is
[19:08] <skaet> pitti, newz2000 will fix the typos.
[19:08] <pitti> great
[19:08] <skaet> anyone else spot any?
[19:21] <skaet> hmm,  just spotted we didn't have an NattyUpgrades page on the community documentation side:  went and created one.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
[19:21] <skaet> it still needs some editing though.
[19:33] <pitti> mirror prober seems to have helped, looking good now
[20:39] <jibel> skaet, on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta the 1rst link at the top of the page (Download Beta) is broken
[20:40] <jibel> it should probably be "http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta#Download%20Beta%201" <- with a 1 at the end
[20:41] <jibel> who is able to edit this page ?
[20:54] <skaet> jibel,  newz2000 is helping get it working.   thanks for catching.
[21:26] <Riddell> evening.  are we nearly there yet?
[21:35] <highvoltage> Riddell: according to omg!ubuntu! beta1 has been released for several hours now :)
[21:37] <Riddell> wow, they scoop us every time, how do they do it
[21:42] <highvoltage> they're the fox news of ubuntuland :)
[22:06] <skaet> Riddell,  highvoltage - they see when we're testing the web sites.
[22:07] <skaet> announce will be going out shortly after a last set of edits.
[22:25] <pitti> good night everyone
[22:36] <highvoltage> good night pitti
[22:59] <skaet> good night pitti
[22:59] <skaet> slangasek, cjwatson,  ubuntu-announce has gone out,  can you approve.
[23:00] <cjwatson> I don't have privileges on -announce
[23:00] <cjwatson> only -devel-announce
[23:01] <cjwatson> bah, we should've removed the chroot-aware bit from the upstart section, since it doesn't work yet
[23:01] <cjwatson> ah well
[23:01] <cjwatson> approved the -devel-announce copy
[23:05] <skaet> thanks cjwatson
[23:12] <slangasek> skaet: I'm failing to remember how to get in to approve it; the passwords I have cached don't seem to be doing the job
[23:13] <slangasek> or I'm on the wrong page, which is possible
[23:13] <skaet> slangasek,  I'll go ping in #is
[23:13] <skaet> can you go change the #ubuntu-devel topic?
[23:14] <slangasek> done
[23:15] <skaet> thanks
[23:15] <skaet> :)
[23:27] <skaet> slangasek,  can you point me to the runes to let me do the posting on ubuntu release blog?
[23:27]  * skaet finishing off the to do list
[23:27] <slangasek> skaet: log in at https://release-blog.ubuntu.com/wp-login.php; I think you have a login/password, let me know if I need to reset it
[23:30] <slangasek> confirmed, your login is there
[23:31] <skaet> ok,  sent off the request for it to be reset
[23:31] <skaet> slangasek,  thanks.
[23:32] <slangasek> "sent off a request" - I don't know where that request goes, probably nowhere useful :)  I'll reset it.
[23:34] <slangasek> hmmm but I don't have a button to generate a new password
[23:35] <skaet> slangasek, got one via email, and I'm in now.
[23:35] <slangasek> ok
[23:35] <skaet> thanks for your help  :)
[23:35] <slangasek> then maybe I've changed the password on you and locked you out again, heh
[23:35] <slangasek> we'll find out next milestone!
[23:36] <skaet> hmmph
[23:36] <skaet> not working now. I'll try the one you just sent
[23:38] <skaet> yup,  that did it.   Am In now.  :)
[23:53] <highvoltage> yay beta 1 \o/