[00:47] <snap-l> waldo323: You are in on irc
[00:48] <snap-l> waldo323: You are in on irc
[00:48] <waldo323_> yay
[02:35] <jjesse> evening
[02:36] <_stink_> yo
[02:43] <jjesse> on web chat
[02:43] <jjesse> there needs to be some standard on what "high speed" internet means
[02:43] <_stink_> hah
[02:43] <jjesse> QoS per quest
[02:43] <jjesse> Quality of SErvice per quest
[02:43] <jjesse> dang it
[02:43] <jjesse> guest
[02:54] <jjesse> been this quiet all week?
[02:54] <greg-g> pretty talkative during the day today, not sure about what though :)
[02:55] <jjesse> hahaha
[02:56] <jjesse> i'm sure it was fascinating
[03:00] <greg-g> oh of course
[03:40] <snap-l> Evening
[04:01] <rick_h_> ok, keyboard seems cleaned ok
[04:08] <Blazeix> awesome! was it hard to get the keys off/on?
[04:08] <rick_h_> well, the big keys have a metal bar holding them in
[04:09] <rick_h_> so you have to pop them loose, without pulling them off the bar
[04:09] <rick_h_> so those were tricky, the main keys just pop off, it's a bit scary though
[04:13] <widox> rick_h_: did you spill coffee on your keyboard?
[04:14] <rick_h_> earl grey with honey in it :/
[04:14] <rick_h_> not a ton though, so not a full bath
[04:15] <widox> whoops
[04:15] <widox> how was CHC?
[04:15] <widox> wasn't able to make it out :-/
[04:16] <rick_h_> was ok, got started on pgsql fulltext support for bookie, Blazeix did some updates to the badge/chrome extension stuff
[04:16] <rick_h_> and the other matt is having a kid in Oct
[04:16] <rick_h_> crazy
[04:16] <widox> whoa
[04:16] <widox> good stuff then
[04:16] <rick_h_> yea, good stuff
[04:24] <snap-l> rick_h_: so is it unstuck, then?
[04:24] <rick_h_> yea, shift key seems unstuck
[04:25] <snap-l> I just found out something cool about the Squeezebox
[04:25] <snap-l> I can stream to any mp3-streamable device with it
[04:25] <snap-l> just point them to http://lister:9000/stream.mp3, and it'll see it as another device
[04:26] <snap-l> so I have a device called "Mozilla from 192.168.1.109" along with "Happy Radio"
[04:27] <snap-l> only problem is it takes about 30 seconds for it to buffer
[04:27] <rick_h_> ah, sucky
[04:28] <snap-l> but I can have N number of devices streaming
[04:28] <snap-l> Though not all playing the same stream. They're all independent
[04:29] <snap-l> oh, wait, they can be synchronized
[04:34] <snap-l> The syncing is a bit off, though
[04:34] <snap-l> depends on the buffering
[13:27] <wolfger> morning
[13:28] <rick_h_> party
[13:29] <wolfger> is it Friday already?
[13:30] <rick_h_> not yet :(
[13:32] <wolfger> then I'm confused as to why we're partying
[13:47] <brousch> because COFFEE
[13:48] <tjagoda> COFFEEEEEE
[13:48] <tjagoda> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[13:48] <tjagoda> EEEE
[13:49] <tjagoda> E.
[13:49] <wolfger> Coffee Part > Tea Party
[13:49] <tjagoda> Truth
[13:50] <wolfger> Man, I've been having a lot more problems with typos lately
[13:50]  * wolfger wonders if mental degradation is beginning already
[13:58] <snap-l> u rgubj ura oiaauvkw
[14:00] <wolfger> Stop exercising my brain!
[14:00] <wolfger> :-p
[14:00] <wolfger> or should I say, "dyp[ rcrtvodomh ,u ntsom@
[14:01] <tjagoda> Anybody in here ever worked with Adtran hardware?
[14:01] <brousch> why does that sound familiar?
[14:02] <tjagoda> Its integrated communications hardware
[14:02] <tjagoda> 3 T1's come in to it, one PRI interface is split out of it and the rest is data stream
[14:02] <tjagoda> There is a local telco vendor which uses Adtran instead of Cisco
[14:02] <tjagoda> I do not know if I am comfortable hopping off the Cisco name
[14:03] <brousch> no one ever got fired for buying cisco
[14:04] <tjagoda> http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/108908
[14:07] <wolfger> brousch: that just makes me want to form a company and then fire somebody for buying Cisco. :-p
[14:07]  * wolfger is contrarian
[14:10] <snap-l> I think there's a cream for that
[14:13]  * ColonelPanic001 offers some cream
[14:13] <brousch> did someone ask for cream? http://xkcd.com/
[14:14] <ColonelPanic001> nicely done
[14:17] <rick_h_> gah, more sticky keys today. I'm going to have to take a picture, pull all the keys, and give this thing an alcohol bath
[14:19] <brousch> rick_h_: we're talking about cream and comics with goo, and you start complaining about sticky keys?
[14:19] <wolfger> I will not ask rick_h_ why his keys are sticky. I will not ask rick_h_ why his keys are sticky. I will not ask rick_h_ why his keys are sticky.
[14:19] <brousch> not good. not good at all.
[14:19] <rick_h_> brousch: hah, guess I should start paying attention to you guys :P
[14:21] <Milyardo> rick_h_: I have a problem more with hairy keys than sticky
[14:23] <_stink_> ..
[14:23] <brousch> that is not less disgusting
[14:25] <Milyardo> :(
[14:25] <_stink_> well done everybody!
[14:25] <wolfger> yes it is, actually
[14:25] <wolfger> unless the hairs are *stuck* to the keys
[14:26] <wolfger> but that's an "and", not an "or"
[14:26] <wolfger> _stink_: what did we do well?
[14:26] <rick_h_> waldo323: http://linuxmafia.com/~garrett/jordan/drinking-game.txt
[14:27] <_stink_> wolfger: this conversation
[14:29] <wolfger> rick_h_: what is that?
[14:29] <rick_h_> wolfger: a drinking game built around a series of books waldo323 and I read
[14:29] <wolfger> RJ? WoT? DFS?
[14:30] <rick_h_> RJ == Robert Jordan, WoT == Wheel of Time
[14:30] <wolfger> ah, ok
[14:31] <brousch> ug, i think my step dad read those
[14:32] <wolfger> I got, I think, halfway through either the second or third book before I quit
[14:32] <brousch> way too many plot threads and characters
[14:32] <wolfger> They were good and yet also not good at the same time
[14:32] <rick_h_> at the 3rd? That was one of the best in the series
[14:32] <rick_h_> and it was only 1/3 as large by book 3...maybe even 1/4
[14:33] <brousch> gotta love it. we have a quarterly report that's been run the same way since ~1995. now they say it is wrong and meaningless. way to be on top of it!
[14:33] <wolfger> as I recall, I was really frustrated by the main character never actually doing much of anything other than by luck.
[14:33] <wolfger> I dunno. It's been years.
[14:34] <rick_h_> heh
[14:35] <wolfger> I've also got a stack of books that I haven't even begun reading.
[14:36] <wolfger> The existence of the internet has really doomed my book reading efforts
[14:36] <brousch> i have a physical stack and an ebook stack
[14:41] <Milyardo> The last Arc tech article on Honycomb is pretty disappointing. Why does a Tablet need to have applications rewritten for it just because it has a different screen resolution?
[14:45] <brousch> android apps have defined resolutions
[14:47] <brousch> http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
[14:51] <Milyardo> This states that layouts by default of screen resolution independent, though the expected screen resolutions aren't completely arbitary
[14:51] <Milyardo> *by defualt are
[14:52] <snap-l> I have a lot of books, both physical and virtual that need reading
[14:52] <wolfger> Yeah, I know.
[14:53] <wolfger> I'm still waiting for a book review per week from you, mister.
[15:10] <jrwren> snap-l: do you know Regenerator?  I just listented to what I think is the original of everyone folow, but I'm more familiar with a remix, only i don't know from where is the remix.
[15:10] <snap-l> Not placing it at the moment
[15:59] <snap-l> I <3 conference calls
[16:00] <greg-g> nap time?
[16:00] <snap-l> Hasn't started yet.
[16:08] <wolfger> Gah!!!! Hate CNN. Stabbity stab stab.
[16:09] <wolfger> Not sure why I keep going there for my news. Nothing better, I guess.
[16:09] <wolfger> Which is a shudder-worthy thought.
[16:21] <jrwren> wolfger: fox news.
[16:22] <wolfger> thou shalt not utter the name of such tripe
[16:33] <jrwren> I want to watch fox news so that when I watch Onion News Network it is funnier.
[16:34] <jrwren> wolfger: the political blog upsetting you?
[16:35] <rick_h_> heh, fox news, or fox opinion? need to schedule correctly
[16:35] <jcastro> rick_h_: is dbo's interview out yet?
[16:35] <snap-l> was released yesterday
[16:36] <jrwren> wolfger: why you complain about CNN?
[16:36] <snap-l> jcastro: http://lococast.net/archives/464
[16:36] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, last night
[16:36] <wolfger> jrwren: I avoid reading the political blog. Upset about yet-another-radiation-scare-that's-really-not-anything-to-see-here-please-move-along
[16:37] <wolfger> jrwren: Also a piece about "the female Indiana Jones", who is not an archaeologist, nor does she carry a bullwhip or even wear a fedora.
[16:37] <wolfger> she's not even a professor in her non-adventuring hours
[16:38] <wolfger> in fact, the only facet in which she is similar to Indy is that she travels to exotic countries.
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[16:38] <wolfger> I know... a horribly geeky thing to get miffed over.
[16:39] <jrwren> its importatn!
[16:50] <rick_h_> man, sometimes it's so hard not to troll my co-worker
[16:51] <jcastro> rick_h_: listening now
[16:51] <rick_h_> jcastro: heh cool, I've not had a chance yet so hope it comes out ok
[16:53] <wolfger> rick_h_: why avoid the temptation? ;-)
[16:53] <rick_h_> " (btw: I know I can highlight a range in VIM and do replaces in there.. but that's not exactly convenient)"
[16:53] <rick_h_> wtf, how is that not convienent?
[16:53] <snap-l> rick_h_: It requires multiple keystrokes. ;)
[16:54] <rick_h_> this is where the trolling comes in, I know the answer
[16:54] <rick_h_> "because my function is 400 lines long and involved 50 lines of a docblock comment at the start
[16:54] <rick_h_> and 400 is a good one
[17:10] <rick_h_> DBO: ping, you see the interview came out?
[17:10] <rick_h_> sorry for the delay, got it out later last night
[17:12] <DBO> rick_h_, yeah I saw :)
[17:12] <rick_h_> k, awesome
[17:13] <brousch> rick_h_: i listened to the mark ramm interview. very good
[17:13] <rick_h_> brousch: cool, glad you liked it. Thought that one went pretty well
[17:14] <brousch> i can scrape a bunch of questions out of it to ask dave brondsema on monday when he gives an allura presentation to grpug
[17:14] <snap-l> There you go. :)
[17:20] <jrwren> allura?
[17:20] <jrwren> sounds like a drug.
[17:20] <rick_h_> heh, allura == new SF site
[17:21] <rick_h_> http://sourceforge.net/p/allura/home/
[17:21] <jrwren> side effects include erectile disfunction, sweaty palms, coughing, uncontrollable bowls and death.
[17:21] <jrwren> does that include git/hg web ui browsing?
[17:21] <rick_h_> think so
[17:21] <jrwren> hawt.
[17:22] <rick_h_> listen to the interview :P
[17:22] <jrwren> k
[17:22] <rick_h_> http://lococast.net/archives/436
[17:22] <rick_h_> and of course, listen to the rest while you're there: http://lococast.net/tag/interview-2
[17:23] <rick_h_> crap, missing tags
[17:25] <rick_h_> http://lococast.net/category/interview is better
[17:32] <snap-l> Have to say, rick_h_ is rocking these interviews.
[17:37] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/gfmqc/lococastnet_interview_with_jason_smith_from/
[17:42] <jcastro> haha man, great interview guys
[17:42] <jcastro> hilarious
[17:42]  * jcastro just finished it
[17:45] <snap-l> jcastro: awesome. Glad you liked it!
[17:46] <jcastro> I tweeted
[17:46] <jcastro> <3 the music too
[17:46] <jcastro> that must be craig
[17:46] <snap-l> :)
[17:53] <greg-g> hey, thanks for mentioning the UGJ on the lococast, guys!
[17:54] <greg-g> hahah, and I love the special appearance of mrs rick :)
[17:57] <snap-l> heh. ;)
[17:57] <snap-l> Yeah, that was too precious to cut out.
[17:59] <snap-l> jcastro: You need to check out Sekshun 8, Revenge, and Wendigo. They're my go-to balls-n-chunk CC bands.
[18:00] <snap-l> And Sequence the Silence is definitely running up into 4th place.
[18:33] <jrwren> work sucks, at least there is good coffee and good tea.
[18:34] <brousch> jrwren: don't quite before sunday
[18:34] <brousch> or quit either
[18:39] <jrwren> oh no.
[18:39] <jrwren> SRT is awesome. the best even.
[18:39] <jrwren> its just my comptuer being stuoid.
[18:39] <jrwren> driving me insane.
[18:39] <jrwren> I'd make comments about windows7 but I've had crazyness in linux too ;)
[18:40] <jrwren> imagine trying to recompile your code while apt-get upgrading your gcc ;0
[18:43] <snap-l> jrwren: Is this something that happens often? :)
[18:50] <brousch> you compile your code?
[18:50] <brousch> barbaric
[19:01] <binbrain> rick_h_: see your using sphinx for your bookie app, have you tried to tie your rst files into source code yet?
[19:02] <jrwren> snap-l: almost never :)
[19:02] <jrwren> rofl @ uncompiled code.
[19:11] <jrwren> rofl at top comment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3qkQROb_k&NR=1
[19:14] <greg-g> wow, I can't believe I just watched that
[19:14] <binbrain> jrwren: OMG, what is that
[19:15] <binbrain> wonder if that's Oracle's attempt at making Java hip
[19:16] <brousch> it cannot be from oracle. it mentions jerking off
[19:16]  * greg-g nods
[19:27] <brousch> please help me. i can't stop watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k
[19:31] <rick_h_> binbrain: yea, I do that on a few projects using autodoc
[19:33] <binbrain> brousch: that's awesome
[19:33] <binbrain> rick_h_: so I'm missing something, what do you use to embed source code from py files in your docs? viewcode?
[19:34] <rick_h_> no, so sphinx has an autodoc thing where you tell it hte module name it and goes through the module and grabs the docstrings out
[19:34] <rick_h_> when you setup a new sphinx project it's got a config flag it asks you "do you want to use autodoc..."
[19:34] <rick_h_> and then if those docstrings have doctests you can enable that as well, where it runs tests I guess on building the docs
[19:35] <rick_h_> I don't do much doctest stuff
[19:35] <rick_h_> but did use it once to try it out
[19:36] <binbrain> the docstr part I see covered, but what about just the source
[19:36] <rick_h_> oh, actually view the source code in the docs?
[19:36] <binbrain> do you have to put the source right in your rst file?
[19:36] <binbrain> yup
[19:37] <rick_h_> oh no, I mean I've done that in some docstrings
[19:37] <rick_h_> Usage :: (block of code here)
[19:37] <binbrain> right
[19:37] <rick_h_> but no, if you want to see source, go to the source browser
[19:37] <rick_h_> gitweb at work, github on bookie
[19:37] <binbrain> I want Usage :: <link to highlighted example.py>
[19:38] <rick_h_> hmmm, I guess I'd put those files under static, the example
[19:38] <rick_h_> but meh, going to suck since you want highlight, etc
[19:39] <binbrain> well, if a pdf is generated and printed, a source browser of the files doesn't help much
[19:39] <rick_h_> you'll need something else for that I think
[19:39] <rick_h_> yea, you want to have a dir of code, with tests that validate they work
[19:39] <rick_h_> and then you want to run through through the highlight lib, and output .html files of them
[19:39] <binbrain> the tests that validate that code can be totally separated out
[19:39] <rick_h_> then you can link to them under static dir
[19:40] <binbrain> man, ok
[19:40] <binbrain> that seems like work
[19:40] <rick_h_> yea, sphinx doesn't do that
[19:41] <binbrain> have you used viewcode
[19:41] <rick_h_> http://code.google.com/p/gwtwiki/wiki/SourceCode2HTML
[19:41] <binbrain> I think it sounds sorda like it, but I'm not sure, I guess I could just try it :)
[19:41] <rick_h_> no, ah, a plugin
[19:41] <rick_h_> yea, not used that extension
[19:42] <snap-l> That Lady Java video is awful
[19:42] <binbrain> I mean, I could probably use pygments for that
[19:44] <rick_h_> right, but that's all viewcode is doing
[19:44] <rick_h_> looking for the code for the extension
[19:45] <rick_h_> https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/src/69acc55585e9/sphinx/ext/viewcode.py
[19:45] <rick_h_> ok, I lie
[19:46] <rick_h_> no pygments there
[19:48] <Blazeix> vim can convert source code to html
[19:48] <Blazeix> :TOhtml
[19:49] <binbrain> Blazeix, um, that's awesome
[19:49] <rick_h_> yea but seems like something that'd you just have some service with a link to a file
[19:49] <rick_h_> and it'd open it, run it through pygments, and show it to you
[19:50] <rick_h_> one file, with a directory to search in or something
[19:50] <Blazeix> yeah, you could do something like "vim test.py -c TOhtml -c wq -c q"
[19:50] <rick_h_> or since sphinx has a build step, you'd just make your script to dump a dir of code to html in to the sphinx static directory
[19:50] <Blazeix> but it's just a neat hack, you might not want to tie infrastructure to vim
[19:50] <rick_h_> for file in $dir of code
[19:50] <binbrain> Blazeix, your my hero
[19:51] <binbrain> didn't know that
[19:51] <rick_h_> lol
[19:51] <Blazeix> related: http://vpaste.net/
[19:51] <Blazeix> vim-powered pastebin
[19:56] <Blazeix> I'd like to point out that rick_h_'s route is the "correct" way. My route is the "huh, that's unique" way...
[19:59] <rick_h_> hey, that's an awesome "oh shit, I need this in color to put up"
[19:59] <rick_h_> used that myself to open in a browser link
[20:23] <binbrain> rick_h_: you have a way to link to the .html docs that works for latexpdf output? it works for include raw works for html as output, but not latexpdf... hmmm
[20:23] <Blazeix> pygments has a latex output mode, i believe
[20:26] <rick_h_> no, haven't done any latex output
[20:26] <rick_h_> only done one page rst2pdf stuff
[20:50] <binbrain> repoze.bfg docs do what I want, way easier then I thought :)
[20:50] <binbrain> as always
[20:51] <brousch> snap-l: the OMC logo finally popped up in my itunes
[20:51] <snap-l> :)
[20:51] <snap-l> You're welcome. :)
[20:51] <snap-l> I finally figured out how to add it
[20:52] <brousch> lococast is still blank logo
[20:53] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, if you know how to fix it I'd love to know
[20:53] <rick_h_> tried posting to twitter "hey, someone tell me what's long"
[20:53] <rick_h_> the iTunes works, but not in android/etc :(
[20:53] <brousch> rick_h_: i have no clue, but apparently snap-l does
[20:53] <brousch> and i'll tell you what's long ...
[20:54] <snap-l> It has to be embedded into the mp3 file
[20:54] <snap-l> I think that's where it gets the logo from
[20:54] <snap-l> so I need to embed the logo into the next few episodes
[20:54] <rick_h_> oh, well that would explain it then
[20:55] <rick_h_> Man, I spent hours going through the feed xml and such and never could get it to work
[20:55] <snap-l> Yeah, I think that's the reason
[20:55] <snap-l> because I started putting in the OMC logo into the mp3 (and ogg) files
[20:55] <snap-l> around when the Enslaved to Machines interview dropped
[20:57] <snap-l> which was at the beginning of March
[20:57] <snap-l> (damn, time flies when you're having fun)
[20:57] <brousch> yeah, i rarely look at it in itunes so it could have happened a while ago
[20:58] <rick_h_> ok, feel better then. I thought I must be a moron and everyone else had it all figured out
[20:58] <snap-l> rick_h_: You should know by now that you're not a moron. ;)
[20:59] <brousch> none of the other podcasts in my itunes have a logo. omc is the only one right now
[20:59] <brousch> so it's not thet rick_h_ is a moron, it's that snap-l is a genius
[21:00] <snap-l> brousch: You're lucky I'm not drinking anything, or you would have owed me a keyboard
[21:00] <rick_h_> hah!
[21:01] <rick_h_> that's why I let him edit
[21:01] <brousch> or maybe he just intimately understands the way apple works …
[21:01] <rick_h_> now I find out he's been sandbagging on lococast :P
[21:01] <krondor> jcastro:  seen the neon skin since the 10.1 xbmc update?
[21:03] <jcastro> no, should I?
[21:03] <jcastro> is it awesome?
[21:03] <krondor> check it out, looks interesting to me.  http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=97792
[21:04] <krondor> just got added to the official skin list, I think there was a beta of it in github for a bit
[21:06] <jcastro> oh I think I did try this
[21:06] <jcastro> that tv grid looks awesome
[21:12] <krondor> yeah, I was going to try messing with it and Cinema plugin.