[00:00] <brightspark> jayant: packages.  including those that contain applications.  :)
[00:00] <anotherjesse> Need help with a preseed automation question - is there a better channel for those questions?
[00:00] <erUSUL> jayant: all apps in ubuntu come in one ( main + others ) packages. not all packages area complete app
[00:00] <hossam> hi
[00:01] <hossam> any one here ?
[00:01] <jayant> th0r: ok..thanks a lot...the applications you named, fall under which category. I mean, how can i search for alternatives to the apps i already have?
[00:01] <jayant> brightspark: ok thank you
[00:01] <hossam> iam use backtrack ok and have problem
[00:02] <FlipStonE> hello, can someone help me with a little banshee problem?
[00:02] <th0r> jayant: I think if you install 'xfce4-desktop' or 'xubuntu-desktop' (can't remember which it is) you will install most of what I have mentionied. Also, a lot of folks on #xubuntu can help you find 'faster' packages for older hardware
[00:02] <jayant> on #xubuntu someone told me that lubuntu is even lighter than xubuntu.....What should i go for ?
[00:02] <th0r> jayant: also, if you check the xfce homepage there is a lot of info there
[00:02] <bastidrazor> hossam: you should ask in #backtrack-linux
[00:03] <jayant> th0r: ok thank you, BTW, it's 'xubuntu-desktop'
[00:03] <Stelpa> heyo
[00:03] <th0r> jayant: you can install both xfce and lxde and see which you prefer
[00:03] <Stelpa> I have a question, not about ubuntu, but about open source in general
[00:03] <Stelpa> I was at radioshack the other day, and I saw under the software section a usb drive being sold simly as "software package"
[00:03] <Stelpa> It had a list of included software
[00:03] <Stelpa> It was all open source and free
[00:03] <jayant> th0r: ok...thanks you
[00:04] <jayant> thanks a lot to everyone for all the help ! :)
[00:04] <Stelpa> Thunderbird, Firefox, Open Office, ect
[00:04] <Stelpa> Is that legal at all?
[00:04] <Stelpa> They obviously had no permission to be selling these free programs
[00:04] <th0r> Stelpa: were they selling the software, or the usb drive?
[00:05] <Stelpa> They were advertising the software on the usb drive
[00:05] <Stelpa> But I am sure in court they would argue that the drive is what is being sold
[00:05] <th0r> Stelpa: there is nothing in the rules that says they can't include the software on something they are selling
[00:05] <Guest84979> how can I execute more than 7 processes in the same file ? I mean I know I have to type "./process" to execute each one, but O would like to execute them in one file ! how can I do that ?
[00:05] <Stelpa> However, even the size of the drive is not even listed
[00:05] <Stelpa> It is all about the software
[00:05] <Stelpa> I mean, its called "software package"!
[00:06] <lefty_> Ok  NEED help How DO i GET right click working ON HP MINI 210-1100 SERIES?
[00:06] <lefty_> Ok  NEED help How DO i GET right click working ON HP MINI 210-1100 SERIES?
[00:06] <alien_> Stelpa: All depends on the type of licence that the software has ...
[00:06] <mrdeb> is there another good image editor that's simple, besides gimp
[00:06] <Stelpa> I dont know, I really think it is kind of ridiculous
[00:06] <Polah> !ask | lefty_
[00:06] <Stelpa> Selling open source stuff
[00:06] <th0r> lefty_: not by shouting
[00:06] <Stelpa> Gimp was on the list too, btw
[00:06] <lefty_> SRY FOR SPam
[00:06] <Polah> Stelpa: They will argue that they are charging for the drive and packaging. Regardless of if they are charging more for the presence of such software.
[00:07] <Stelpa> :\
[00:07]  * Stelpa sighs
[00:07] <Stelpa> i suppose
[00:07] <Stelpa> thanks for letting me know :)
[00:07] <Stelpa> its a bit of an injustice, though
[00:07] <lefty_> th0r : is this better?
[00:07] <th0r> lefty_: much
[00:07] <FlipStonE> if someone could help me: banshee makes his own playlist right? but when i add my music map, where everything is in it's own directory, then banshee reorganises this in the playlist.  Can't i clear it that the playlist is the same as my music directory listing?
[00:07] <Stelpa> it was probably a 2gb drive, and they were selling it for like 20 bucks because of the "state of the art software" included
[00:07] <Stelpa> its ridiculous >_<
[00:08] <dezi> by
[00:08] <cg2916> how do i make it so that the grub displays the menu on startup instead of the command line?
[00:08] <lefty_> th0r : okay so you think you can help me with this small predicament?
[00:08] <Stelpa> there was a similar "games pack" which had the exact same idea
[00:08] <th0r> lefty_: haven't seen the question yet
[00:08] <Kondry> sup guys?
[00:09] <Stelpa> Just a bunch of open source games being sold for 25 bucks on a tiny usb drive
[00:09] <lefty_> Ok  NEED help How DO i GET right click working ON HP MINI 210-1100 SERIES?  <-- th0r
[00:09] <th0r> lefty_: and I told you...not by shouting. I won't even bother reading a question that can't be posed in a civil fashion
[00:10] <lefty_> Ok  need help how do i get right click working on HP MINI 210-1100 SERIES?  <-- th0r
[00:10] <brightspark> Stelpa: as far as I know, you can sell the stuff under GPL if you want to.  Of course, nothing prevents potential buyers from just going and downloading it for free.
[00:10] <th0r> lefty_: what have you tried thus far? Have you attempted to get it working with another mouse? Have you checked the mouse config ?
[00:11] <lefty_> th0r i have tried mouse config and tried diff mouse
[00:11] <th0r> lefty_: http://www.google.com/search?q=hp+mini+210+right+click+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[00:12] <cg2916> how do i make it so that the grub displays the menu on startup instead of the command line?
[00:12] <Polah> cg2916: Hold shift
[00:12] <Stelpa> brightspark: we need to go out there and put notes on the back of all those things saying that you can download them all free online
[00:12] <Stelpa> because the packaging certainly doesn't mention that
[00:13] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i add things to my boot config after installing ubuntu if i can't get to the login screen?
[00:13] <cg2916> Polah: ok
[00:13] <linux_is_my_hero> like "nomodeset" for example
[00:13] <brightspark> Stelpa: well of course the packaging won't say that!  and I'd encourage you to read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
[00:15] <Stelpa> thanks, brightspark :)
[00:15] <lefty_> thanks th0r
[00:15] <th0r> lefty_: np....the first one seems to be a pretty good how to
[00:16] <lefty_> th0r now i am going to boot into ubuntu but omce i get in here gimme this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8816327&postcount=6
[00:16] <Stelpa> i understand the philosophy... its just, it feels bad to know so many people out there are getting ripped off by a company selling other people's work when its out there for free
[00:16] <brightspark> Stelpa: no problem.  In fact, I think it's good that they are distributing free software more than it is bad that they charge for it.
[00:17] <induz> is anyone familair with wine door??
[00:17] <Stelpa> its like selling copied paintings, when they are out there for free on the internet in high res anyway
[00:17] <linux_is_my_hero> vertical bars on startup
[00:17] <induz> is it similar to wine tricks
[00:17] <linux_is_my_hero> GAY
[00:17] <Stelpa> and thats not even a perfect analogy >_<
[00:17] <DizzieScim> type can anyone help me?>
[00:17] <muneeb> Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[00:17] <DizzieScim> anyone?
[00:17] <DizzieScim> i need some help
[00:17] <Suhn> i has a problem
[00:17] <muneeb> anyone can help me?
[00:18] <linux_is_my_hero> dizziescim: it's not late enough
[00:18] <DizzieScim> can anyone help me install a wireless pci card?
[00:18] <DizzieScim> oh, not late enough?
[00:18] <linux_is_my_hero> dizziescim: the nerds are still playing video games and eating pizza
[00:18] <Suhn> ha
[00:18] <linux_is_my_hero> dizziescim: they're not in here just yet.
[00:18] <DizzieScim> lol!
[00:18] <Suhn> Hey, i run a server
[00:18] <Suhn> a minecraft classic server with monop
[00:18] <DizzieScim> are you any good at it?
[00:18] <Suhn> mono
[00:18] <linux_is_my_hero> suhn: you can make a lotta $$$ doing that
[00:19] <Suhn> and sometimes it just completely freezes
[00:19] <linux_is_my_hero> me? I'm gunna search google and play some mw2 on my ps3.
[00:19] <Suhn> ill get home and the computer has been frozen since 10 am
[00:19] <linux_is_my_hero> later 8-)
[00:19] <brightspark> Stelpa:  I get what you mean.  If this was a concern to the authors, they would probably choose to licence it under something like the creative commons noncommercial licence.
[00:19] <Suhn> i have no idea why
[00:19] <muneeb> Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64    how do i make it use 32 bit libs?
[00:19] <DizzieScim> linux, are you good at linux :P
[00:19] <Kondry> obviously not
[00:20] <Tusker> anyone able to help me with chromium-browser ?
[00:20] <Kondry> yes
[00:20] <DizzieScim> well you never know, i kinda just dove right in here so
[00:20] <Kondry> what about chronium?
[00:20] <Kondry> chromium*
[00:20] <alex86> any suggestion about mp3 player?
[00:20] <Kondry> MOCP for mp3
[00:20] <Tusker> chromium-browser hangs with "kill pages", but google-chrome works no problems... was wondering how to debug why it's failing
[00:20] <taho> audiacity
[00:21] <DizzieScim> quit
[00:21] <Kondry> audacity is a pile of shit
[00:21] <Kondry> use mocp
[00:21] <maco> !language | Kondry
[00:21] <Stelpa> brightspark: ahh, forgot about that license
[00:21] <Kondry> kay..
[00:21] <Stelpa> yeah, thanks for entertaining my concerns, you helped a bunch :)
[00:21] <Stelpa> the radioshack employee had no idea what open source meant, too, lol :P
[00:22] <brightspark> np.
[00:22] <alex86> guys, suggest something to play music with?
[00:22] <Kondry> why would he stelpa?
[00:22] <irule> how may I make ubuntu boot into text only?  I want to gui
[00:22] <Kondry> he gets paid 4 75 an hour
[00:22] <th0r> alex86: audacious
[00:22] <Stelpa> true :P
[00:23] <lefty_> th0r
[00:23] <Kondry> can anyone help me with IRC? im trying to DDoS and my bots are listening to me, im a heckster, ik, but plz help
[00:23] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r : link please
[00:23] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: looking for this?....http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8816327&postcount=6
[00:23] <alex86> th0r: thanks. does it have radio?
[00:23] <lefty|ubuntu> Yes Thank you
[00:24] <lefty|ubuntu> Yes Thank you th0r
[00:24] <th0r> alex86: not sure. You might also consider using vlc since it handles streaming very well
[00:24] <maco> Kondry: we don't discuss illegal activities here
[00:24] <Suhn> Do you think linux would freeze up for 5 hours
[00:24] <Suhn> just becuase i was out of RAM
[00:24] <linux_is_my_hero> suhn: i ran a linux machine once without reboot for a year straight
[00:24] <Suhn> yea,
[00:25] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i access the command line in 10.10 instead of booting?
[00:25] <Suhn> its so stable
[00:25] <alex86> th0r: yeah, i have it. will use for watching video
[00:25] <th0r> alex86: and you might look at miro....although I think it is more tailored to video
[00:25] <maco> linux_is_my_hero: why are vertical bars gay? i know stripes have an orientation, but i didnt think they had that sort!
[00:25] <linux_is_my_hero> maco: its just irritating, because i did a fresh install of ubuntu 10.10 and my dell doesn't like it. something about nvidea drivers :-(
[00:25] <maco> linux_is_my_hero: more seriously:  that word's not really insulting, so stop trying to pretend it is
[00:26] <DizzieScim_> hey anyone on that can help me?
[00:26] <Loshki> Suhn: freezes (hangs) are more often than not hardware-related. In your place, the first thing I'd do is run memtest overnight...
[00:26] <Suhn> memtest
[00:26] <DizzieScim_> memory test
[00:26] <grumbly> Hey, i'm having a problem with LVM and Ubuntu as VMware Guest.  It was working then suddenly it says the UUID is no longer valid
[00:27] <Suhn> system>administration
[00:27] <grumbly> any suggestions?
[00:27] <Suhn> ?
[00:27] <Loshki> !memtest
[00:27] <Suhn> Loshki: is that a command in the terminal?
[00:27] <brightspark> I installed mozplugger as per the Forums, but cannot get evince to display pdfs inside firefox.  I'd appreciate any help you can give.
[00:27] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know how to edit the grub2 configuration file so i can disable nomodeset?
[00:27] <Bing0> Hi.  Ubuntu 10.10....mild question re: apt-get.  I ran "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" today and one of the items was urbanterror-data.  Yes I have it installed but what is the best way to find out exactly was updated in this video game?  Thanks!
[00:28] <genii-around> linux_is_my_hero: sudo nano /etc/default/grub      And put the modeset line there. Then sudo update-grub
[00:28] <linux_is_my_hero> genii-around: how do i get to the tty from boot?
[00:28] <linux_is_my_hero> i can't boot until i fix nomodeset, its giving me nvidea driver issues.
[00:28] <genii-around> linux_is_my_hero: Should be the shift key
[00:29] <linux_is_my_hero> genii-around: when?
[00:29] <liTTle-FoX> clear
[00:29] <genii-around> linux_is_my_hero: ( to see the grub menu during boot)
[00:29] <linux_is_my_hero> genii-around: yes
[00:29] <linux_is_my_hero> genii-around: right after boot?
[00:29] <genii-around> linux_is_my_hero: Pretty much right after POST
[00:30] <maco> Suhn: it can be run from a live cd's boot menu but should also be available from your grub menu. hold shift on boot to access that menu
[00:30] <Suhn> So apperently there is a memory leak with the server software im running. Could taht cause it to freeze up for good?
[00:31] <maco> Suhn: yeah
[00:31] <maco> Suhn: if its too out-of-memory to execute an out-of-memory (OOM) kill...
[00:31] <Suhn> I think its wierd the memor leak never effected me with windows
[00:31] <Suhn> even though ubuntu is twice as stable and uses half the ram
[00:31] <maco> Suhn: possibly it only exists on the linux version of the software?
[00:32] <Suhn> Its all the same software
[00:32] <Suhn> im running it with mono
[00:32] <Suhn> its c++
[00:32] <Suhn> but
[00:32] <Suhn> i was in the server when it froze today
[00:32] <Suhn> the server had no lag
[00:32] <Suhn> and it suddenly just froze
[00:33] <Suhn> can these OOM just happen very fast?
[00:33] <grumbly> Better yet, Can someone help me with Grub2 and LVM?
[00:33] <induz> what is wine door
[00:35] <grumbly> I have a system with LVM and Grub2 (as a vmware guest) and it has stopped booting saying the uuid is not found (or something).  Anyone???
[00:36] <Loshki> induz: you mean this? http://maketecheasier.com/easily-install-windows-applications-in-linux-with-wine-doors/2010/02/11
[00:37] <brightspark> I installed mozplugger as per the Forums, but cannot get evince to display pdfs inside firefox.  I'd appreciate any help you can give.
[00:38] <RobSpectre> Just upgraded from Lucid to Maverick and now getting errors that X can't find the nvidia module.
[00:38] <RobSpectre> Anyone else encounter this?
[00:39] <induz> Loshki, yes but i have already installed wine and tricks... is it the same?
[00:39] <LittleRed> RobSpectre: did you load a generic driver?
[00:40] <RobSpectre> LittleRed: Affirm.  Loads with nouveau.  It seems nvidia-current is installing itself as "nvidia-current" instead of "nvidia"
[00:40] <RobSpectre> LittleRed: Can't modprobe nvidia with it installed.
[00:40] <chobito01> When is firefox 4 coming to Ubuntu?
[00:41] <th0r> !ff4
[00:41] <Loshki> induz: Sorry, I dunno. Try asking on #winehq
[00:41] <LittleRed> RobSpectre: I had to uninstall the old one first then load current
[00:41] <boss_mc> I'm having issues with my computer locking up completely after a few hours of use.  Can anyone help me diagnose this issue please?
[00:41] <induz> how can i install wine doors?
[00:41] <induz> its not on repo
[00:41] <RobSpectre> LittleRed: Already gave that a go.  No dice.
[00:42] <induz> is there any website for downloading wine door??
[00:42] <chobito01> th0r: Will that replace firefox 3.6 completely, or just give me a firefox 4 side by side - I would prefere the latter.
[00:42] <th0r> chobito01: I think it will give you side by side, but not sure
[00:43] <th0r> induz: several links about installing doors in ubuntu via google
[00:43] <Kondry> does anyone know if you guys can run omegle.com in w3m?
[00:43] <Loshki> induz: check out the url I sent you above
[00:43] <chobito01> th0r: Well, if the package name was "firefox4", then maybe I could assume that, but otherwise I think it probably does a replace..
[00:44] <th0r> chobito01: once you add the ppa and update synaptic you can see if the package name is the same
[00:44] <induz> that link is not working for downalod
[00:44] <yeats> chobito01: if you add the stable repo, it will replace ff 3.6
[00:45] <LittleRed> RobSpectre: what I actually ended up doing was going back to the old version > upgrading the driver then using update manager to upgrade the version... works perfectly now
[00:45] <chobito01> yeats: Any way to avoid that? Like running 3.6 and 4.0 side by side?
[00:45] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r : What about 2 finger scrolling?
[00:46] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: I have no idea.....don't have a mini so only know what I read in the search
[00:46] <yeats> chobito01: if you add the mozilla daily repo, you can install both, but they are less stable and don't always work with add ons
[00:46] <Rehan> anyone here running ubuntu on a sony vaio?
[00:47] <yeats> chobito01: ff4 is a definite improvement IMHO, so you may not miss 3.6 ;-)
[00:47] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: there is a package for managing the touchpad, but I can't recall the name....touchsyn or something like that
[00:47] <genii-around> induz: https://launchpad.net/~rzr/+archive/ppa
[00:47] <Patrick___> Cannot connect via wireless or ethernet
[00:47] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r : >.< help me find
[00:47] <lefty|ubuntu> plz
[00:48] <shaosin> there is something of teamviewer
[00:48] <shaosin> fopr linux
[00:48] <shaosin> ?
[00:48] <chobito01> yeats: What if I download the binary from mozzila directly, and use that? I'm afraid it will trounce over ~/.mozzila/firefox
[00:48] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: see if 'synclient' is in the repos
[00:48] <brightspark> I installed mozplugger as per the Forums, but cannot get evince to display pdfs inside firefox.  I'd appreciate any help you can give.
[00:49] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r let me check
[00:49] <pr3nt1c3> howdy
[00:49] <Patrick___> newby
[00:50] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r : nope
[00:50] <Patrick___> On my netbook I installed Mint
[00:50] <yeats> chobito01: it's more complicated if you do it that way... but you can use System -> Preferences -> Main Menu to edit the FF entries to add '--profilemanager' to the end of the command, which will allow you to use a specific profile for each
[00:50] <Patrick___> No problem connecting
[00:50] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: let me get the vm booted up
[00:50] <lefty|ubuntu> kk
[00:50] <Patrick___> I installed ubuntu 10.4 and I cannot get coonected
[00:51] <lefty|ubuntu> Patrick__
[00:51] <Patrick___> netbook aspire one  D255
[00:51] <lefty|ubuntu> have ethernet cable and a  modem/
[00:51] <Rehan> Patrick___: how do you like mint?
[00:51] <Patrick___> mint immediately located need driver
[00:51] <Patrick___> I love mint
[00:51] <Patrick___> I have enthernet cable
[00:51] <LittleRed> anyone here use ubuntu as the OS for a media box?
[00:52] <toby_> hello all i booted up my system this morning and it says wifi disabled. i am on a laptop with and internal wifi card i have tried using my fn button and the wifi button on my keyboard but it didnt change anything i still cannot connect via wifi any help out there?
[00:52] <induz> genii-around, how can i install?
[00:53] <Rehan> LittleRed: that sounds interesting, are you trying to set it up as a media server?
[00:53] <pr3nt1c3> I recently bought an LG blu-ray drive... a BH10 (P/N MAY62348807, Version B)... it is not automagically recognised by nubuntu... how would I go about a) finding the device and mounting it... and b) writing a script to allow others to just run it and be done with it?
[00:53] <pr3nt1c3> haven't used ubuntu in over a year... and I'm on x64 10.10
[00:53] <Kor9999_> hi everybody, i have a problem, ubuntu turns off my wireless card every time i shutdown my laptop, suspend or hibernate. The problem is i have to turn it on every time i want to use it; and if i want to use windows, it does not recognize the wireless card. How can i leave it on all the time?
[00:53] <pr3nt1c3> !bluray
[00:53] <pr3nt1c3> hmm
[00:53] <pr3nt1c3> !LG
[00:54] <LittleRed> Rehan: yes... just for streaming and downloads mostly..
[00:54] <chobito01> yeats: What I mean is, if I start firefox 4, the binary from mozzila, it will go into ~/.mozzila/firefox, and create a new place for ff 4 settings/profiles/whatever - it won't mess with 3.6 stuff, right?
[00:54] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: tpconfig kcm-touchpad and gsynaptics, depending on what touchpad you have
[00:54] <pr3nt1c3> I also want to set up this box like LittleRed just described... as I'll be getting 2 new PC's soon
[00:55] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r is that sudo?
[00:55] <yeats> chobito01: I don't know.  If you add the '--profilemanager' switch to the command, it will let you explicitly choose
[00:55] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: the three are packages in synaptics....install them like any other package
[00:55] <toby_> any help formy wifi issues?
[00:55] <toby_> for my
[00:55] <linux_is_my_hero> genii-around: how do i get it to stop freezing on updates?
[00:55] <Spanishhhhh> hellooooooo
[00:55] <Spanishhhhh> australiannn
[00:56] <ariel_> hello everyone
[00:56] <chobito01> yeats: Coose what - a profile, or a temporary directory where ff 4 can store all settings it needs to store?
[00:56] <chobito01> *Choose
[00:56] <LittleRed> Rehan: I'm looking into what is the best video card supported by 10.10...monitor will be a sony TV. no issues there works well with my laptop but this box holds a 2 TB drive
[00:56] <Patrick___> any easy way to locate wireless driver?
[00:56] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r you have teamviewer?
[00:56] <induz> how can i install wine door?
[00:56] <yeats> chobito01: a profile
[00:56] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: nope, and you just crashed my vm
[00:57] <induz> I have added ppa[unsupported]
[00:57] <Patrick___> or even just connect to ethernet?
[00:57] <Rehan> which IRC program do you guys recommend for Ubuntu?
[00:57] <ariel_> I have done many lookups for this one issue on 10.10 and Evolution Email.  I can't get it to work with an Exchange 2010 server. Google as lots of info but nothing there has worked. Anyone have any idea on how to get this working?
[00:57] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r get it  plz and how?
[00:57] <bastidrazor> Rehan: irssi
[00:57] <toby_> hello all i booted up my system this morning and it says wifi disabled. i am on a laptop with and internal wifi card i have tried using my fn button and the wifi button on my keyboard but it didnt change anything i still cannot connect via wifi any help out there?
[00:57] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: get what?
[00:57] <genii-around> induz: Actually it was wrong ppa. Is actually https://launchpad.net/~rzr/+archive/rzr-tmp At any rate, you can do: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rzr/rzr-tmp           then sudo ap-get update  and after that you should be able to install by packagename of wine-doors  . If on 10.10 then change "maverick" inside of file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rzr-rzr-tmp-maverick.list  to lucid .The 10.04 version works fine on 10.10
[00:57] <chobito01> yeats: I don't want ff 4 to "migrate" anything from 3.6, and I don't want it to modify current 3.6 settings/profiles - so I can just launch ff 4 and worry about that?
[00:58] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r temviwer
[00:58] <chobito01> *not
[00:58] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r teamviwer
[00:58] <Spanishhhhh> uglysssssssss
[00:58] <Spanishhhhh> everyone
[00:58] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: nope. I won't hold your hand. You can install those as well as I can...if one of them works you are in business, if not, you can uninstall them and try google
[00:58] <brightspark> I installed mozplugger as per the Forums, but cannot get evince to display pdfs inside firefox.  I'd appreciate any help you can give.
[00:58] <Rehan> bastidrazor: irssi? have you tried xchat? I am using xchat right now but for some reason can't get sounds to work on it
[00:58] <lefty|ubuntu> th0r but im confused on what to get
[00:59] <Kor9999_> hi everybody, i have a problem, ubuntu turns off my wireless card every time i shutdown my laptop, suspend or hibernate. The problem is i have to turn it on every time i want to use it; and if i want to use windows, it does not recognize the wireless card. How can i leave it on all the time?
[00:59] <th0r> lefty|ubuntu: I just gave you three package names from synpatic. Try the first one, if it doesn't work for you uninstall it and install the next one
[01:00] <yeats> chobito01: I feel like I'm just repeating myself, but 1) I don't know what FF4 will do if you install it that way - I would assume it *will* use the default profile folder, and 2) if you don't want it to use the default profile folder, you can control that with the '--profilemanager' switch -- does that help? ;-)
[01:00] <linux_is_my_hero> kor9999_: get rid of windows, it will simplify things for you. then troubleshoot linux, and when you get it right, you'll laugh ever time bill gates is seen.
[01:00] <linux_is_my_hero> kor9999_: the only thing linux ISN'T good at is video games, but that's what big screen tv's and ps3's/xbox/wii are for
[01:00] <chobito01> yeats: Ok, ok - sorry to bother you.
[01:00] <yeats> chobito01: no problem ;-)
[01:01] <induz> i failed to see wine door on repo after those command
[01:01] <Rehan> anyone here use xchat?
[01:01] <toby_> i do
[01:01] <fizyplankton> how can i make it so that if say a user named "remote_user" were to SSH into my computer and login to "remote_user", and if they were to execute a certain .sh file, how can i make it pop up in a terminal window on my ("main_user")'s screen. or even better, have it create a new window in screen on a terminal running screen?
[01:01] <_redpanther_> I do
[01:01] <Rehan> toby_: do you get sound on it?
[01:02] <toby_> Rehan, no idea i am a noob
[01:02] <Rehan> mine says that the sound files are supposed to be in /home/user/.xchat/sounds but there's no /.xchat folder in my home dir
[01:02] <linux_is_my_hero> i edit grub to include nomodeset instead of quiet flash, and everytime i reboot it changes back.
[01:02] <ariel_> Is there something like tops via the desktop gui to that can kill a program?
[01:02] <linux_is_my_hero> SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE
[01:02] <fizyplankton> Rehan: hit ctrl-h
[01:02] <induz> now i can see wine-door on repo... thanks..lets see if that does the tricks
[01:02] <Jareth> is there any way to open a .max file in ubuntu
[01:02] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: shouting won't help
[01:02] <Rehan> fizyplankton: doesn't do anything
[01:02] <linux_is_my_hero> th0r: true dat.
[01:03] <fizyplankton> Rehan: are you pressing it in nautilus?
[01:03] <bastidrazor> Rehan: i have not tried xchat. there is an #xchat channel
[01:03] <Kondry> ?
[01:03] <toby_> hello all i booted up my system this morning and it says wifi disabled. i am on a laptop with and internal wifi card i have tried using my fn button and the wifi button on my keyboard but it didnt change anything i still cannot connect via wifi any help out there?
[01:03] <_redpanther_> Rephan: I get sound on xchat
[01:03] <fizyplankton> Rehan: if that fails still, go to nautilus and hit view>show hidden files
[01:03] <Rehan> fizyplankton: yeah, i am, it seems to refresh, doesn't do anything
[01:04] <dougl> how do I install flash on 10.10 instructions I followed yeild fail to fetch error?
[01:04] <Kor9999_> linux_is_my_hero: well i actually use only ubuntu, but windows for games. can you help me with my wireless card?
[01:04] <tomov> is natty beta1 out?
[01:04] <dougl> Kor9999_, google wich\
[01:04] <Rehan> fizyplankton: oh ok, it probably is showing the hidden files, but i don't see any .xchat folder
[01:04] <linux_is_my_hero> kor9999_: i would love to but i have to get my desktop to stop changing its own config settings
[01:04] <dougl> Kor9999_, google wicd
[01:05] <fizyplankton> Rehan: on *nix systems. a file/folder beginning with "." such as ".xchat" is hidden. thats how you show them
[01:05] <xangua> dougl sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:05] <linux_is_my_hero> kor9999_: i edit my grub boot loader config file and then when i restart it goes back to quiet splash from nomodeset
[01:05] <fizyplankton> how can i make it so that if say a user named "remote_user" were to SSH into my computer and login to "remote_user", and if they were to execute a certain .sh file, how can i make it pop up in a terminal window on my ("main_user")'s screen. or even better, have it create a new window in screen on a terminal running screen?
[01:05] <Rehan> fizyplankton: oh ok, i found the directory
[01:05] <linux_is_my_hero> kor9999_: :-(
[01:05] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: is this grub or grub2?
[01:05] <Rehan> fizyplankton: no sound files in .xchat2
[01:06] <linux_is_my_hero> grub2 i think.  it ubuntu 10.10
[01:06] <Lew> Hi, yesterday my laptop suddenly wont boot to ubuntu it just goes black screen. There is something wrong with the hdd because I cant mount it or format it, "daemon is inhibited"
[01:06] <linux_is_my_hero> th0r: ubuntu 10.10, so i guess its grub2
[01:06] <linux_is_my_hero> Lew: you probably have a hardware failure
[01:06] <fizyplankton> Rehan: i have no idea. i left xchat long ago. i use irssi now
[01:06] <Lew> I cant try fix or repair it just says the same thing
[01:07] <ejv> i need some help, im getting ABYSMAL mdadm resync performance on a brand new raid6, for a 4 x 2T array, it's taking nearly 22 hours, what is the problem? thanks.
[01:07] <Lew> but its like new...
[01:07] <toby_> hello all i booted up my system this morning and it says wifi disabled. i am on a laptop with and internal wifi card i have tried using my fn button and the wifi button on my keyboard but it didnt change anything i still cannot connect via wifi any help out there?
[01:07] <Lew> It worked in the morning then when I came home, nothing
[01:07] <dougl> xangua, Err http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/multiverse flashplugin-installer amd64 10.2.152.27ubuntu0.10.10.1
[01:07] <dougl>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[01:07] <fizyplankton> toby_: it may be a hardware driver or it may be a bios setting
[01:08] <brightspark> Can anyone here help me troubleshoot viewing pdfs in firefox with evince?
[01:08] <Jareth> toby what type of wifi card do you have
[01:08] <xangua> dougl change to the main server in software sources
[01:08] <Lew> hero, it says relocated sector count
[01:08] <toby_> fizyplankton,  i doubt its an bios or driver seeing as it worked before any other ideas?
[01:08] <Lew> in smart data tests
[01:08] <dougl> xangua, err - looking
[01:09] <vena> ciao
[01:09] <mickster04> brightspark: error messages? more details are needed
[01:09] <vena> !list
[01:09] <linux_is_my_hero> th0r: any ideas?
[01:09] <xangua> dougl or try the 64 bit plugin ppa
[01:09] <xangua> https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[01:09] <cannonfodder> hey you guys. how do i make a bootable windows flash drive from ubuntu...and that is my only option..please dont tell me about putting it on a disk; thank you.
[01:09] <Lew> linux, do you know what relocated sector count means
[01:09] <Lew> on my HDD
[01:10] <brightspark> mickster04: I'm using mozplugger.  When I click a link to a pdf, I get the loading icon in the tab for a second and then nothing happens.
[01:10] <induz> how can i update packages?/
[01:10] <cannonfodder> hey you guys. how do i make a bootable windows flash drive from ubuntu...and that is my only option..please dont tell me about putting it on a disk; thank you. i have a windows .iso file btw
[01:10] <aeon-ltd> induz: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:10] <dougl> xangua, how do I change to the main server in software sources?
[01:11] <xangua> dougl software centre>edit>software sources
[01:11] <induz> what is upgrade??
[01:11] <cannonfodder> hey you guys. how do i make a bootable windows flash drive from ubuntu...and that is my only option..please dont tell me about putting it on a disk; thank you. i have a windows .iso file btw
[01:11] <induz> I dont want to upgrade to marverick from lucid?/
[01:12] <Lew> RELOCATED SECTOR COUNT
[01:12] <Lew> fixable?
[01:12] <xangua> cannonfodder: /join #windows
[01:13] <magicianlord> cannonfodder: are you in windows or ubuntu
[01:13] <bdamos> cannonfodder: stop posting the same message repeatedly. also: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[01:13]  * yangzhiwei2 is ok
[01:14] <induz> wine -ddor has some problem how can i correct the install/
[01:14] <dougl> xangua, not available on main server.
[01:14] <induz> how can i remove it and re-install it??
[01:14] <mark49> @search "the time pit"
[01:14] <linux_is_my_hero> th0r: you there?
[01:14] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: yeah....got dropped
[01:14] <linux_is_my_hero> th0r: its grub2
[01:14] <th0r> !grub2
[01:14] <pr3nt1c3> repost::::  I recently bought an LG blu-ray drive... a BH10 (P/N MAY62348807, Version B)... it is not automagically recognised by nubuntu... how would I go about a) finding the device and mounting it... and b) writing a script to allow others to just run it and be done with it?
[01:15] <mickster04> brightspark: well i can't help i was just asking for more info incase anyone els can
[01:15] <pr3nt1c3> there's nothing online
[01:15] <pr3nt1c3> and wine doesn't want to install the drivers
[01:15] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: you can't edit the config in grub2 like you did in grub
[01:15] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: I haven
[01:15] <linux_is_my_hero> so im fucked then?
[01:15] <mark49> hi
[01:15] <xangua> !language | linux_is_my_hero
[01:15] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: I haven't worked much with it, but the ubuntu links have a pretty good description of how it works.
[01:16] <Graphic> How do I isntall a Lenovo s10's wireless card at the command line?
[01:16] <linux_is_my_hero> sometimes i wish i stayed with 9.10...:-(
[01:16] <pr3nt1c3> lol @ linux_is_my_hero :: same here
[01:16] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: a lesson most of us learn at some point...if it works...don't improve it
[01:16] <linux_is_my_hero> maybe ill just buy a 3000-dollar desktop cpu from system32
[01:16] <xangua> pr3nt1c3: you don't install drivers with wine, it doesn't work that way
[01:16] <linux_is_my_hero> then a custom triple monitor setup
[01:16] <Mediarocker> Ugh My grub failed too
[01:16] <Mediarocker> Just now
[01:16] <mark49> Is there a fix for "lost mouse pointer after suspend bug" in Lucid?
[01:17] <linux_is_my_hero> and 7.1 surround with subwoofer
[01:17] <pr3nt1c3> I know xangua ... but I figured I'd try it anyway...
[01:17] <nickals> #pugbot needs TWO to start NOW! come .join TODAY!
[01:17] <pr3nt1c3> can't find the source files anywhere
[01:17] <linux_is_my_hero> th0r: 10.10 is faster though
[01:17] <royale1223> !nmap
[01:17] <linux_is_my_hero> then anything ive ever had (9.04, 9.10, 10.4)
[01:17] <th0r> linux_is_my_hero: so is a cray, but I don't need either
[01:17] <linux_is_my_hero> well...
[01:17] <Mediarocker> 10.10 is slick. It fixed my Radeon issue
[01:18] <linux_is_my_hero> im running on 6 year old hardware and i can still boot in under 30 seconds ;-)
[01:18] <linux_is_my_hero> TRY THAT WITH WINDOWS!
[01:18] <linux_is_my_hero> F**KERS!
[01:18] <FloodBot1> linux_is_my_hero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:18] <Mediarocker> Linux, dude chill man masking is just as bad
[01:18] <johnjohn101> anyone using 11.04 yet?
[01:18] <bastidrazor> johnjohn101: those in #ubuntu+1 are
[01:18] <mark49> Is there a fix for "lost mouse pointer after suspend bug" in Lucid?
[01:19] <Mediarocker> johnjohn101, no, I'm wanting to look at the updates
[01:19] <Lew> what does relocated sector count mean
[01:19] <brightspark> I installed mozplugger as per the Forums, but cannot get evince to display pdfs inside firefox.  I'd appreciate any help you can give.
[01:19] <Lew> ???
[01:19] <linux_is_my_hero> well the other thing is, linux only does what its told, it doesn't get all fancy. i don't need remote access, i prefer to not be hacked. i don't want my computer to poo itself everytime someone downloads music or adult material for free
[01:20] <Mediarocker> mark49, I have no idea. 10.10 fixes alot of issues.
[01:20] <Lew> ...
[01:20] <Kondry> lol
[01:21] <Mediarocker> linux_is_my_hero, Just because someone doesn't publicly have their heart set on taking down the linux community, but to be honest Linux is just as "hackable" as windows.
[01:21] <mark49> thanks Mediarocker. I'll wait until 11.4
[01:22] <Mediarocker> mark49, I've been having a similar issue with my notebook.
[01:22] <mark49> No much trouble for me in my Thinkpad T43 but confuses my friends
[01:22] <Mediarocker> mark49, maybe someone will patch it. Gotta debug.
[01:24] <MK`> Ubuntu does not hibernate properly for me :( I heard this is sort of a common error?
[01:24] <atm235> esta aqui alguém que fala português
[01:25] <atm235> ?
[01:25] <Loshki> !br | atm235
[01:25] <ayecee> MK`: it's not uncommon, but the causes vary quite a bit
[01:25] <Jon--> My power light is blinking on my laptop like it is in sleep mode. How do I control this in ubuntu?
[01:25] <MK`> I assume it was some hardware error
[01:25] <Jon--> It's clearly not in sleep mode :P
[01:25] <MK`> incompatability*
[01:25] <MK`> Suspend works fine, it's just hibernation doesn't work properly at all
[01:25] <DrFalcon> Linux + hibernate is not always a match made in heaven.
[01:25] <MK`> heh
[01:26] <zetoh> can i install ubuntu 11.04 beta1 on my PC and just update to latest release and end up with final? like fedora ?
[01:26] <Jon--> Linux + hibernate is the result of *censored activities* preformed in Hell.
[01:26] <MK`> When I click it is says "failed to suspend" and hangs until I cut power.
[01:26] <MK`> when I try to hibernate again it gives me errors and I again need to cut power
[01:26] <mickster04> !11.04 | zetoh
[01:27] <DrFalcon> It is possible to get hibernate set up properly on almost any physical machine in linux, but getting the settings right for your motherboard can be a huge pain, and it's slightly different for various setups.
[01:27] <zetoh> yes i know they are unstable but can it  be updated until the final version?
[01:27] <diffract|> i wrote a simple server program that requests the time from my machine, but ubuntu is refusing the connection to localhost, how do i enable it?
[01:27] <ayecee> zetoh: yes
[01:27] <MK`> ah
[01:27] <MK`> I'll just disable hibernation for now
[01:28] <ayecee> diffract|: enable what?
[01:28] <Jon--> My power light is blinking on my laptop like it is in sleep mode. How do I control this in ubuntu?
[01:28] <diffract|> ayecee: i don't know.. make ubuntu allow server programs to connect to it? i'm not really sure what i want
[01:28] <DrFalcon> I managed to get it working on my machine only after hours of googling and hacking away at various config files. Try googling your motherboard model + "hibernate ubuntu". You never know, someone may have figured it out for you.
[01:29] <diffract|> ayecee: i ran this on a Mac and it returned the current time
[01:29] <diffract|> but on ubuntu it says "connection refused"
[01:29] <ayecee> diffract|: what port does it use?
[01:29] <diffract|> ayecee: 2000
[01:30] <Jon--> My power light is blinking on my laptop like it is in sleep mode. How do I control this in ubuntu?
[01:30] <ayecee> diffract|: I don't know of a time service that runs on port 2000
[01:30] <ayecee> Jon--: no one here found out since last minute.
[01:30] <diffract|> ayecee: oh i just remembered, the instructor said to change the port to 3000 because 2000 is reserved
[01:30] <Jon--> ayecee, hogwash.
[01:30] <ayecee> Jon--: what you do with your hogs is none of my business
[01:30] <MK`> Additionally: The little internet light on my laptop is on whenever it's not connected to the internet, when it should be off.
[01:31] <DrFalcon> lol it's always the little things with linux.
[01:31] <Jon--> DrFalcon, It's sometimes the big ones.
[01:31] <boone> Very new to Ubuntu - need help please - using 'Wine to install games - will not unmount - or- proceed @ second disk
[01:31] <Jon--> My light didn't start blinking until I changed my screensaver to ElectricSheep.
[01:31] <Jon--> D:
[01:32] <xangua> !appdb | boone
[01:32] <ayecee> Jon--: does it return to normal after a shutdown and restart?
[01:32] <DrFalcon> boone: if you have a windows partition, often you can install into windows, then just copy the whole program folder over to your linux partition, then run it with wine. This gets you around install programs not running properly in wine.
[01:32] <Jon--> ayecee, Probably would. I care not to test it right now, was looking for a quick answer if anyone knew what app or file monitors the sleep status of the computer and communicates it to the LEDs on the notebook
[01:33] <boone> Ty DrFalcon - but no windows partition here
[01:33] <knightrage> DrFalcon: that method wouldn't work in situations where the program checks registry entries
[01:33] <ayecee> Jon--: there isn't such a process that i'm aware of, the blinking lights in sleep mode is normally controlled by acpi firmware.
[01:33] <ayecee> Jon--: I suspect your firmware got confused somehow.
[01:34] <DrFalcon> yeah, it doesn't always work, but often it does
[01:35] <tacotron> hi guys.. wondering if i could get some help with rdesktop.. im following the guide on the ubuntu site but it isnt working. I have a Windows XP computer, ive already spoofed it as professional and enabled Terminal Services, but whenever I try to connect to it, rdesktop gives me ERROR: #my ip Unable to connect?
[01:35] <datakid> is there some way to configure cron to use a different MTA? instead of the OS supplied, I've got a system with a collab system in /opt/collab/
[01:35] <Jon--> ayecee, strange. Never had an issue with it. All I've done recently is change screensaver from blank screen to ElectricSheep (installing from package)
[01:36] <datakid> so I need cron to send via /opt/collab/bin/whatever
[01:36] <ayecee> Jon--: yup, i've never heard of exactly that happening before either.
[01:36] <datakid> presume that I don't want to ln -s in the off chance that a future upgrade will over-write
[01:37] <alex86> i have a short question. I have failed to install Songbird player and now I just wanna delete all its component. Will it be enough just removing folder?
[01:38] <DrFalcon> alex86: I reccomend using the package manager to remove, rather than deleting folders
[01:40] <alex86> DrFalcon: actually i even can`t find it in package manager. It just failed to install so maybe removing folder won`t be a sin
[01:40] <sdimkov> what's unity's channel
[01:43] <brightspark> sidmkov: I believe it is #ayatana
[01:47] <Blue1> !squid
[01:50] <The_Pugilist> anyone know how to set the default runlevel in ubuntu 10.10?
[01:50] <The_Pugilist> im looking configure it so it boots without the gui
[01:51] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i add pidgin to the envelope menu on the top bar of 10.10?
[01:51] <boone> Very New Ubuntu  - When Trying to install multi-disk games -  1st disk will not unmount & second disk fails to proceed with installation - help please
[01:52] <genii-around> !runlevel | The_Pugilist
[01:52] <The_Pugilist> so is there a way to configure upstart to acomplish such a goal?
[01:54] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i add pidgin to ubuntu's messaging menus?
[01:54] <brightspark> The_Pugilist: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1688953 and see post 4
[01:55] <Kor9999> hi everybody, i have a problem, ubuntu turns off my wireless card every time i shutdown my laptop, suspend or hibernate. The problem is i have to turn it on every time i want to use it; and if i want to use windows, it does not recognize the wireless card. How can i leave it on all the time?
[01:55] <xangua> linux_is_my_hero: install pidgin-libnotify
[01:55] <linux_is_my_hero> xangua: much thanks :-)
[01:55] <The_Pugilist> brightspark, thank you much :)
[01:55] <fisix> hey guys, how do i replace the icons under Applications?
[01:56] <brightspark> The_Pugilist: no problem
[01:57] <alex86> I  `ve failed to install Songbird player and I want to remove all its components, so is it save just to remove folder songbird?
[01:57] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: have you checked the /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state  ?
[01:57] <alex86> fisix: right click EditMenu
[01:58] <brightspark> alex86:  It is most likely safer to remove it properly using dpkg.
[01:58] <fisix> alex86, yep i know that actually. was just wondering where i can dl some big packs and replace em all perhaps?
[01:58] <Kor9999> LittleRed: no, how do i check it?
[01:58] <alex86> fisix: no ideas
[01:59] <brightspark> fisix: gnome-look.org
[01:59] <toby_> guys i need elp my wifi adaptor says disabled.. it wokred yesterday i tried gooling answers i am at a loss
[01:59] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: its a file... the wireless enable = true
[01:59] <alex86> brightspark:if I am in the directory there is this folder i run: dpkg songbird?
[02:00] <jayant> hello everyone. I downloaded the xubuntu-desktop package from the terminal and after the download was complete i got a message on the terminal screen asking for the default display manager "gdm" and "lxdm" are the two options, which one should i choose and what is this ?
[02:00] <pixelead0> hello, what is the command to  download the updates of ubuntu?
[02:00] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: I view the file and all options are = true
[02:01] <pixelead0> i dont like
[02:01] <pixelead0> modo grafico
[02:01] <xangua> pixelead0: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:01] <brightspark> alex86: dpkg --purge songbird
[02:01] <trism> jayant: it is the screen where you log in, and probably want to stick with gdm (which is the default in ubuntu)
[02:01] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: run this command as root  "rfkill unblock all"
[02:01] <brightspark> alex86: you probably need sudo
[02:01] <xangua> jayant: depends if you like gdm or lxdm more
[02:02] <alex86> pixelead0: try maybe apt-get upgrade
[02:02] <jayant> trism: hmmm...ok..its like i want to use xubuntu(lsdm) or ubuntu(gdm) ?
[02:02] <alex86> brightspark: thanks i `ll try
[02:02] <pixelead0> thks
[02:02] <toby_> guys i need elp my wifi adaptor says disabled.. it wokred yesterday i tried gooling answers i am at a loss
[02:03] <mickster04> pixelead0: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <<into terminal
[02:03] <LittleRed_> toby: laptop?
[02:03] <trism> jayant: you can use both with gdm, just select the session after you click your username, lxdm is just another option, which may be lighter than gdm
[02:03] <toby_> LittleRed_,  yes
[02:03] <mickster04> toby_: have you right-click on the icon and tried enabling it?
[02:03] <alex86> brightspark: here that i have: dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove songbird which isn't installed.
[02:03] <LittleRed_> toby: have you checked the /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state  ?
[02:03] <toby_> mickster04,  yes enable is grey
[02:04] <jayant> trism: ok..thank you
[02:04] <toby_> LittleRed_,  yes wireless says false i did edit to true but no help
[02:04] <pixelead0> very nice, thnks
[02:04] <brightspark> alex86: just check that it's all spelled & capitalised correctly.  If so, then it can be removed safely.
[02:05] <mickster04> toby_: mouse hover over it, and tell us what it says?
[02:05] <LittleRed_> toby: did it work on the initial upgrade?
[02:05] <Grey_King> Hey everyone
[02:05] <toby_> LittleRed_,  initial upgrade?
[02:05] <Grey_King> sorry to interrupt
[02:05] <Grey_King> I have an init.d question
[02:06] <toby_> mickster04,  hover over what now?
[02:06] <mickster04> Grey_King: you're not interrputing, just be as detailed as you can
[02:06] <LittleRed_> toby: came late to your issue... what version?
[02:06] <mickster04> toby_: they greyed out enable butotn
[02:06] <lacus> Grey_King: you're not... what mickster04 said
[02:06] <genii-around> Kor9999: If your adapter is usb you can also put usbcore.autosuspend=-1 in the file /etc/sysctl.conf
[02:07] <alex86> brightspark: it is not removing. thanks for help
[02:07] <toby_> mickster04,  there is no "enable" button the wiresless section is greyed out and says disabled
[02:07] <mickster04> toby_: have you check your bios? do you have a wifi switch on the laptop?
[02:07] <Grey_King> sure thing, I want to run my minecraft server on startup so I'm adding the command as an init.d script, but it's an interactive program. I'd like to be able to send commands to it
[02:07] <Grey_King> is there any way to resume the script so I can see output and run commands into the server?
[02:07] <toby_> mickster04,  no option is bios for wifi no switch but there is a swithc using my fn key but that doesnt help either
[02:08] <ceo> haii alll..
[02:08] <mickster04> Grey_King: there is a way to stat programs in a screen session at start up, that screen session you can resume in terminal but i don't know how to set it up :/
[02:08] <Grey_King> I'm also familiar with the screen command
[02:09] <Grey_King> I'm not sure how I would start it and have it run that command automatically
[02:09] <mickster04> toby_: hmm, you should be able to enable wifi from there :/
[02:09] <brightspark> alex86:  Okay.  Since dpkg is confident it's all squared away, you are probably safe to delete it now.
[02:09] <toby_> mickster04,  agreed..... back to windoze... :
[02:09] <toby_> :(
[02:09] <mickster04> Grey_King: well screen is a way of starting up a termoinal, and then you can close it without closing it if you get me, you can close the terminal program, but the screen will still run, so you can reattach it later, though i would consider working out a way of logging into the server with a user that can run those commands
[02:10] <LittleRed_> toby: can you connect wired?
[02:10] <JJ_> You mean back to Microdunce?
[02:10] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: Ok, i did what you said (sudo rfkill unblock all)
[02:10] <lacus> Grey_King: for instance, I run my irc on a remote server under screen, close out of the terminal and can log back in and resume some other time.
[02:11] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: and?
[02:11] <mickster04> Grey_King: but it would be easier to start that manually
[02:11] <JJ_> I am a noobie, so I am going to ask, with all these fancy Linux distros being developed, if Linus Torvalds, the authority on the Linux Kernel, were to suddenly retire or die, how would that affect the kernel?
[02:11] <JJ_> Would it fragment with the distros and become so distant that it becomes incompatible with other distros?
[02:12] <Grey_King> lacus: are you able to specify the command to run when using "screen" or do you wait until the terminal opens
[02:12] <spacetur1le> Hey there, is php5-fpm not in 10.04? I do not see it when I do an apt-cache search
[02:12] <spacetur1le> is it in php5.3.2 now?
[02:12] <Grey_King> Mickster04 I can do that too, but if I run it with '&' then I don't know how to resume it to issue commands
[02:13] <Patman> I need help...
[02:13] <fisix> does anybody know any ubuntu chat clients that can receive/send custom emoticons? pidgin keeps failing to receive
[02:13] <lacus> Grey_King: I start screen like "screen -S irc", start the irc client. THen I quit terminal, open a new terminal and type "screen -rx irc" and I'm back in.
[02:13] <brian_> When you have a checkbox selected, how do you tick it on or off?
[02:13] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: now all is unblocked, but wireless is like this    -- Soft blocked: yes --
[02:14] <Patman> Every time I I update my Ubuntu softwre an additional option appears in my bios to boot from...  How Do I delete the previous boot options?
[02:14] <lacus> Grey_King: not sure if that answers your questions or not
[02:14] <Graphic> Patman: are you saying that there is an aditional boot option in GRUB?
[02:14] <Guest87199> Is there a known bug in how NFS handles group permissions? 10.04 lts
[02:15] <Patman> No, I have a 500gb HD 350gb is for windows and the rest is for Unbunu
[02:15] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: what does it say in the network connections?
[02:15] <ines> re
[02:15] <Patman> So when I turn on my PC I have the option of either booting from the windows pertition or the Ununtu partition
[02:15] <yeertai> hi all.
[02:16] <Guest87199> drwxr-s--- owner mygroup /dir # I want members of group 'mygroup' to have read-only access to this when I NFS export it to other boxes
[02:16] <Guest87199> 'mygroup' has the same integer gid on all the boxes
[02:16] <Patman> when I install an update to my Ubuntu OS It creates a new botable option, the old version is still there and the new version ius there too
[02:16] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: where do i see that?
[02:16] <Guest87199> the users all have secondary group membership in 'mygroup' on all the boxes
[02:17] <syskk> how can I prevent ubuntu from showing the welcome message when logging onto ssh
[02:17] <Guest87199> and yet; -bash: cd: /dir: Permission denied
[02:17] <infinitux> I'm running a variant of ubuntu right now. If I were to install just straight ubuntu to my system, could I install in a way where I would keep all my personal data and configurations from the other system?
[02:17] <Graphic> Patman: Ok but updating your software should have no effect on your "bios" actually nearly nothing should effect your bios options
[02:17] <infinitux> i'm thinking of loading 10.10 on here.
[02:17] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: System > pref> network connections> wireless tab
[02:17] <Patman> That's why I'm freaking out...
[02:17] <infinitux> The variant I use is great, but is antiquated.
[02:17] <xangua> infinitux: save your home
[02:17] <Grey_King> lacus that helps a little bit, but I'm trying to start a screen session on startup in init.d then resuming it when needed
[02:17] <Patman>  :-)
[02:18] <mickster04> Grey_King: so type in screen into terminal the enter (if it's the first time it'll give you a message) then type in your minecraft server start up command, then ctrl A,  ctrl + d. to get back to that session type in screen -r
[02:18] <Graphic> Patman: I think its just your kernel getting updated
[02:18] <Graphic> Its not something to worry about
[02:19] <mickster04> Grey_King: was that perhaps not clear enough
[02:19] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: Connect automatically
[02:20] <infinitux> xangua: will the installer allow me to do it, or do I need to do that seperately?
[02:20] <Grey_King> mickster04 I think I understand, is there a way to resume a backgrounded script if I run it with "minecraft-start &"
[02:20] <infinitux> haven't installed ubuntu since version 8
[02:20] <infinitux> but I run on a variant called moonos.
[02:20] <TULeGiT> Is a toast file the same as an iso?
[02:20] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: give me a sec to boot my lap up so i cans see what mine says
[02:21] <_useless_> group perms r-s not allowing NFS user to cd into directory.  Works locally, but not over NFS.  uid's and gid's are matching on both client and server.  Any ideas?
[02:21] <Paddy_NI> Patman: if you are curious about customising that bootloader here is the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[02:21] <brightspark> I installed mozplugger as per the Forums, but cannot get evince to display pdfs inside firefox.  I'd appreciate any help you can give.
[02:21] <Graphic> patman: I think when the kernel gets update you get additional boot options, the ones for the old kernel and the ones for the new, you can remove the old ones with that link Paddy_NI gave
[02:21] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: Ok Thanks
[02:23] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: do you have an SSID for your wifi? You may need to enter it
[02:24] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: Idon't know, how can i check that?
[02:26] <Kahr-Parker> I need help installing ubuntu...
[02:26] <LittleRed_> Kor9999: you have to get into the router to see it... on the top of the svreen do you see the little wifi icon?
[02:26] <LittleRed_> "screen
[02:28] <lacus> Grey_King: I thing "fg" will do it
[02:29] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: i think yes
[02:29] <LittleRed> Kor9999: see if it senses anything by hovering over it
[02:30] <fisix> does anybody know why i can't send/receive files in pidgin?
[02:30] <sancas> anyperson use conky?
[02:30] <genii-around> Kor9999: Is your wifi adapter USB based?
[02:31] <Grey_King> lacus, thank you!
[02:31] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: no, is an internal wifi card
[02:31] <lacus> :D
[02:31] <Grey_King> mickster04: thank you too!
[02:31] <Paddy_NI> fisix: What service are you using to IM the file with
[02:32] <Paddy_NI> fisix: or rather which IM service are you trying to send the file through
[02:32] <fisix> Paddy_NI, msn
[02:32] <Paddy_NI> fisix: How big is the file?
[02:32] <Paddy_NI> fisix: and what is it?
[02:32] <fisix> Paddy_NI, from pidgon to the newest windows live mess. any sized file, from a few kb to mb. a 4 mb song lets say
[02:32] <genii-around> Kor9999: Many internal adapters are still usb. If: lsusb       shows it there and not in: lspci    Then I might have a generalised solution for your issue of it going into suspension
[02:32] <fisix> Paddy_NI, or a few hundred kb word doc
[02:33] <Paddy_NI> fisix: what happens when you say you cannot send it?
[02:33] <jayant> i just installed the lubuntu-desktop package. The LMTerminal has a background image. How do i remove that ?
[02:33] <genii-around> Kor9999: Many internal adapters are still usb. If: lsusb shows it there and not in: lspci Then I might have a generalised solution for your issue of it going into suspension
[02:33] <fisix> Paddy_NI, oh it just doesn't appear for my friend on the receiving end
[02:33] <Paddy_NI> fisix: And have you enabled a firewall or anything like that?
[02:33] <fisix> Paddy_NI, i don't see files that friends try to send me either
[02:33] <fisix> Paddy_NI, firestarter/iptables
[02:34] <genii-around> Sorry about double-post :)
[02:34] <Paddy_NI> fisix: you may need to forward a port
[02:34] <fisix> Paddy_NI, do i need to add an exception for the pidgin port?
[02:34] <jayant> ok...i got it..
[02:34] <fisix> Paddy_NI, good call.. lemme try that
[02:34] <Paddy_NI> fisix: yeah, you can disable the firewall temporarily to see if that works
[02:34] <Paddy_NI> fisix: just to test
[02:36] <Kor9999> genii-around: i put lsusb i didn't see the wireless card there
[02:36] <fisix> Paddy_NI, i used to be able to send/receive custom emoticons as well. now i can't. perhaps the problems are related..
[02:36] <fisix> Paddy_NI, would i need a port forwarded? or change the pidgon port to something like 8080?
[02:36] <raylee> hi does anyone know what an iframe trojan is i keep finding it in my clam av
[02:37] <Paddy_NI> fisix: Give me a moment to look this up
[02:37] <Kor9999> genii-around: or i don't know the cards name, how can i see that?
[02:37] <fisix> Paddy_NI, thanks! i tried googling it myself too just for the record. mainly old and irrelevant posts..
[02:38] <raylee> can anyone help Me
[02:38] <atm235> boas pessoal! alguém me sabe dizer como obter o código em linguagem c de um executável linux?
[02:39] <th0r> raylee: plenty of info on that in google
[02:39] <Paddy_NI> fisix: Okay I got it
[02:39] <fisix> Paddy_NI, no way. wat solution?
[02:40] <linux_is_my_hero> for some reason by fresh install of ubuntu 10.10 is rediculously slow over my normally fast 15MBit connection
[02:40] <Paddy_NI> fisix: I think, :)  Okay so quit pidgin open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install msn-pecan" without the quote marks, now start pidgin again and remove your current msn account and recreate it
[02:40] <steev> hi all, i want to modify the file /usr/share/menu/evolution, but i'm wondering, is there any way to do it so that if there is an update it won't overwrite it (maverick); without rebuilding all of evolution's packaging?
[02:40] <linux_is_my_hero> *my fresh install
[02:41] <ScarabDrowner> I have an odd, persistent audio issue. Every time my screen turns off due to inactivity while music is playing, the audio will stutter a few times as the screen shuts off then goes back to normal. I haven't been able to find anything in the forums. Is this normal, or is there a solution available?
[02:41] <Paddy_NI> fisix: when creating the account use the "WLM" option and not the "MSN" one
[02:41] <Hathadar> how do I search within man?
[02:42] <Hathadar> as in manual
[02:42] <Hathadar> man smb.conf
[02:43] <ScarabDrowner> that was weird
[02:44] <ScarabDrowner> rather quiet in here this evening
[02:44] <Paddy_NI> fisix: what stage are you at?
[02:44] <tjiggi_fo> Hathadar, you mean search for a string within a particular man entry?
[02:44] <fisix> lolol gotta love "without the quotation marks". i'm not that much of a noob! D: i've completed everything.. just waiting for my friend to help me test this out hahah
[02:45] <fisix> Paddy_NI, emoticons fail
[02:45] <Paddy_NI> fisix: lol sorry I just assume so to save head aches.. I still get it a lot
[02:45] <LittleRed> Kor9999: were you able to tell if it is even picking up wifi signals?
[02:45] <fisix> Paddy_NI, FILE TRANSFERS WORK!!!!
[02:45] <Hathadar> tjiggi_fo: yes
[02:45] <fisix> Paddy_NI, we're half way there... hahah
[02:46] <Paddy_NI> fisix: Okay so the emote thing is still not working
[02:46] <fisix> correct
[02:46] <ScarabDrowner> 5:10? bots' clocks are off
[02:46] <tjiggi_fo> Hathadar, <forwardslash> <string>
[02:46] <Paddy_NI> fisix: humour me and send two emotes to your friend, :-) and :)
[02:47] <fisix> Paddy_NI, default emoticons definitely work. i can even send custom emoticons that i've received and saved about a month ago
[02:47] <fisix> Paddy_NI, i couldn't send certain custom emoticons however...
[02:48] <fisix> Paddy_NI, some work, some don't (for sending). in receiving, i can't receive any custom emotes
[02:49] <aure_> hi
[02:49] <gunndawg> hi
[02:49] <aure_> sorry but
[02:49] <aure_> I'm new using ubuntu
[02:49] <gunndawg> ok
[02:49] <ScarabDrowner> welcome aure_ ^_^
[02:50] <aure_> and I have a question
[02:50] <aure_> thanks
[02:50] <aure_> can you help me?
[02:50] <ScarabDrowner> we'll try... go ahead and ask
[02:50] <gunndawg> what do you need help with
[02:50] <Jasonn> My xUbuntu computer sometimes has problems booting, as it sais "Read Error" when it tries to turn on, but other times, it works just fine :(
[02:50] <ScarabDrowner> Jasonn: sounds like a drive cable might be loose
[02:50] <Kor9999> genii-around: thanks for your help
[02:51] <Paddy_NI> fisix: I think its his side that is the problem now
[02:51] <aure_> I'm programer
[02:51] <Kor9999> LittleRed_: thanks for your help
[02:51] <Jasonn> ScarabDrowner: Let me check, mate
[02:51] <atm235> hi! my english is not good! this is the question. I have a small linux executable obtained from a compiled c program. all I want is to get de source code. is that possible? how?
[02:51] <fisix> Paddy_NI, nope, i'm testing this with multiple friends
[02:51] <fisix> Paddy_NI, and yes, i've tried restarting
[02:51] <Paddy_NI> fisix: In WLM on windows there is an option in the tools menu to show emoticons and one to show custom emotes
[02:51] <aure_> i'm traying program in android
[02:51] <ScarabDrowner> atm235: where did you get the program?
[02:51] <fisix> Paddy_NI, also tried testing on numerous days in the past week on different networks
[02:51] <aure_> with java and eclipse
[02:51] <sancas> can i use if with conky?? how to??
[02:51] <aure_> ide
[02:51] <aure_> but
[02:51] <Paddy_NI> fisix: still there problem if they are using wlm
[02:51] <th0r> atm235: there is no way to reverse engineer it, but if you compiled the program you already have the source code
[02:51] <Opisky> abiy: hmm
[02:52] <Paddy_NI> *their
[02:52] <atm235> it was send by a teacher
[02:52] <aure_> the eclipse ide dont show me he help menu
[02:52] <aure_> and I need it because
[02:52] <aure_> i need to add the adt plug in
[02:53] <aure_> and I dont know how can i solve this problem
[02:53] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: one sec
[02:53] <fisix> Paddy_NI, their configurations are right. i know this because i use wlm and emote transactions work perfectly
[02:53] <aure_> I investigated in a lot of places... please
[02:53] <fisix> Paddy_NI, should i choose msn? or wlm for the pidgin protocol
[02:54] <atm235> it was no me that compiled the program. all  I have is the linux executable
[02:54] <keyrate> update-manager -d acutally updating to Natty beta1 yet?
[02:54] <linux_is_my_hero> slow internet please help
[02:54] <Paddy_NI> fisix: WLM
[02:54] <fisix> Paddy_NI, i was on wlm, trying msn now..
[02:54] <linux_is_my_hero> i think its my wifi drivers
[02:54] <sancas> ScarabDrowner, gonna your time...
[02:54] <Paddy_NI> fisix: using the "MSN" protocol may break file transfers again
[02:54] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/587636/ this is how I use it in my conky.rc
[02:54] <Paddy_NI> fisix: WLM seems to be the one you need
[02:54] <fisix> Paddy_NI, ur right, file transfer no longer works
[02:55] <fisix> Paddy_NI,  wat do now?
[02:55] <Paddy_NI> fisix: use wlm
[02:55] <sancas> ScarabDrowner, but this is fot mounted and i need use with my network :(
[02:55] <sancas> for*
[02:55] <Paddy_NI> fisix: I guess you may have to do without custom smiley faces and beer icons
[02:55] <Paddy_NI> :(
[02:56] <naomi_> I hate Pidgin. D:
[02:56] <Paddy_NI> hehe
[02:56] <fisix> when i try to log in wlm, i get a "myemail" disabled. unable to authenticate: nexus steam error
[02:56] <fisix> when i click re-enable, it works
[02:56] <Paddy_NI> I prefer empathy it just lacks the vast list of plugins that pidgin has
[02:57] <Paddy_NI> fisix: should be fine.. make sure the msn protocol is not in use
[02:57] <naomi_> I just use amsn or Skype. Pidgin makes me rage.
[02:57] <fisix> Paddy_NI, so i have to click reenable every time..?
[02:57] <Paddy_NI> fisix: hmm.. try logging out and back in
[02:58] <fisix> Paddy_NI, tried. i'm prompted every time to reenable
[02:58] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: syntax should be the same, just use a different variable from http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=Variables that works for your needs
[02:59] <T_N_T> howdy, if anyone can help me with an issue, I was trying to get sound to work with skype on 10.10 64 bit gnome an I deleted pulseaudio and replaced it with esound and now I lost the little applet that controls sound preferences and flash sound is not working anymore either
[02:59] <fisix> Paddy_NI, gotta click reenable a few times for it to actually work..
[02:59] <Paddy_NI> sec fisix
[02:59] <xangua> T_N_T: reinstall pulseaudio
[03:00] <T_N_T> is that the only way to fix it, I can't get audio to work right with skype on pulse but it works fine with e sound
[03:00] <Hathadar> Had a problem with where samba was upgraded to samba 4 and no longer recognized smb.conf.  Uninstalled samba, manually removed /etc/samba.  Installed samba4.  I cannot find my samba directory now.  Not in /etc/, /usr or /usr/local/samba.
[03:00] <silverlightning> hi
[03:00] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: if_up may be what you need
[03:01] <Hathadar> No longer recognized commands from smb.conf*
[03:01] <sancas> ok i'll test it
[03:01] <Paddy_NI> fisix: Has it asked you to accept any certificates?
[03:01] <silverlightning> is it possible to install ubuntu on a separate harddisk, and boot up from usb on  a laptop?
[03:01] <T_N_T> + I already tried that once and it didn't seem to bring back the little applet, I am also running Win2-7 transformation pack
[03:01] <fisix> Paddy_NI, nope
[03:01] <sherorox> does anyone know if iboot can recognize a virtual mounted drive?
[03:02] <Paddy_NI> fisix: have you disabled your firewall
[03:02] <xangua> silverlightning: yes
[03:02] <fisix> GAH forgot, turned it back on LOL
[03:02] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i get updated wifi drivers for my computer?
[03:02] <Paddy_NI> fisix: disable the firewall and re-add the account
[03:03] <Paddy_NI> fisix: remove and add again.. you should get asked to accept a certificate
[03:03] <T_N_T> xangua I have an HP pavillion dv7 1448dx
[03:03] <Jasonn> linux_is_my_hero: sudo apt-get update
[03:03] <jon__> hey guys, do you guys know how to use windows alt+keycodes in ubuntu?
[03:03] <sherorox> does anyone know if iboot can recognize a virtual mounted drive?
[03:03] <mickster04> jon__: you mean for special characters?
[03:03] <th0r> jon__: you can use .xmodmap to remap the keyboard
[03:03] <th0r> jon__: I think there is a gnome app to do that also
[03:05] <fisix> Paddy_NI, disabled firewall, re-added account, restarted pigin. still says "Unable to authenticate: nexus". clicking reenable a few times gets it to work
[03:09] <jon__> yes, special characters like e acute
[03:10] <jon__> which in windows would be alt+130
[03:11] <Paddy_NI> fisix: Sorry to leave you hanging man but I cannot seem to find a duplicate of this problem
[03:11] <Paddy_NI> fisix: plus its 03:11 over here and I need more tea :)
[03:11] <fisix> Paddy_NI, no problem... i couldn't either. got any other ideas for me to try though?
[03:11] <fisix> Paddy_NI, you brit!
[03:11] <Paddy_NI> fisix: Irish
[03:12] <fisix> Paddy_NI, ohhh!!!
[03:12] <fisix> Paddy_NI, know anything about medical school in ireland?
[03:12] <naomi_> Movie player, on the sidebar on playlists, I was getting a song from youtube, searched it and it came up but when I clicked to play it it says "An error occurred : GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error"
[03:12] <naomi_> I'm Irish. >.>
[03:12] <silverlightning> xangua, about the booting, it should boot fine, and no problem with grub or windows 7 on the other harddisk?
[03:12] <fisix> naomi_, whoaa do you know anything about medical schools in ireland?!?
[03:13] <Paddy_NI> lol, I'll chat in a moment fisix I have a kettle to boil
[03:13] <fisix> Paddy_NI, lol k
[03:13] <ScarabDrowner> jon__: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/special-characters-made-easier-in-ubuntu.html
[03:13] <naomi_> Uhhh nope. Sorry. :P
[03:13] <benzaldehyde> irssi guru i am not, i have no picture
[03:13] <benzaldehyde> if you can read this ping me please
[03:14] <ScarabDrowner> just finishing a cuppa here ^_^
[03:14] <naomi_> Cuppa tea and a cone if I'm being honest.
[03:15] <ScarabDrowner> can't ping now
[03:15] <osmosis> is there a DU Meter equivalent?
[03:16] <fisix> you guys and your haggis! lol :p
[03:16] <naomi_> Lol that's Scotland. Part of Britain.
[03:17] <mickster04> Paddy_NI: surely if you're from NI you're a brit?
[03:17] <naomi_> Only some parts of NI are ruled by Britain.
[03:18] <raylee> what is an iframe virus
[03:18] <Paddy_NI> lol
[03:18] <Paddy_NI> You guys really don't know Ireland do you :)
[03:19] <naomi_> I'm a Dubliner myself. :>
[03:19] <Paddy_NI> You really think "british" parents would have a child called Paddy running around ?
[03:20] <Paddy_NI> lets make his life really hard... call him Paddy or Seamus
[03:20] <Paddy_NI> XD
[03:20] <shcherbak> Bad parents? Yes.
[03:20] <Paddy_NI> lol
[03:21] <Paddy_NI> okay sorry but this if offtopic
[03:21] <Paddy_NI> just to step in before I get scolded by an op
[03:21] <tjiggi_fo> raylee, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iframe_virus
[03:21] <naomi_> Aha.
[03:22] <Mathuin> Is there an IRC channel on freenode for general bash/shell-script questions?
[03:22] <wirrr> hello. i am using ubuntu lucid and symantec package manager always crashes when i start it. i cannot do anything with it. this is a recent development. what should be my course of action?
[03:22] <Paddy_NI> Mathuin: #bash
[03:23] <Mathuin> Paddy_NI: Thanks!
[03:23] <mickster04> Paddy_NI: you are definitely british. as NI is part of the UK :p
[03:23] <naomi_> Not all of NI is ruled by Britain. ._.
[03:23] <mickster04> wirrr: try using terminal then sudo apt-get update
[03:23] <Paddy_NI> mickster04: I have two passports :P
[03:23] <mickster04> naomi_: NI = Northern Ireland
[03:23] <mickster04> Paddy_NI: lucky you
[03:23] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: NI is part of the UK
[03:23] <naomi_> Yes.. I'm aware. I live in Ireland.
[03:23] <wirrr> but is there any way i can fix symantec package manager?
[03:24] <fisix> Paddy_NI, any moar suggestions.. :( ?
[03:24] <mickster04> naomi_: well then, seeing as britain includes the uk and the uk includes NI then it makes sense that if you are from NI you are british :p
[03:24] <shcherbak> wirrr: synaptic, what is err?
[03:24] <mickster04> wirrr: try that and see what err it gives
[03:25] <wirrr> it just tries to load, then no longer responds and you have to force quit
[03:25] <naomi_> Yeah I'm thinking of Ulster. Not all of Ulster is part of NI.
[03:25] <Paddy_NI> mickster04: then you start to head to foul territory and this is not the place
[03:25] <mickster04> wirrr: if you try that in terminal it should give errors
[03:25] <mickster04> Paddy_NI: aside from the history, technical accuracy was there
[03:25] <mickster04> :p
[03:25] <naomi_> Anyone else any ideas about this movie player error?
[03:25] <Paddy_NI> yes
[03:25] <mickster04> naomi_: what was it?
[03:26] <naomi_> mickster04: On the sidebar on playlists, I was getting a song from youtube, searched it and it came up but when I clicked to play it it says "An error occurred : GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error"
[03:26] <xzwerm> what is the biggest down side to ubuntu?
[03:26] <ScarabDrowner> jon__: did that help?
[03:27] <wirrr> when i run synaptic from terminal it also tries to run, then stops responding, and you have to force quit
[03:27] <ScarabDrowner> xzwerm: depends... for some people it's the lack of games that work on Linux
[03:27] <fisix> Paddy_NI, that tea done yet?! no moar solutions.. D:
[03:27] <zee313> i want to run "turbo c" on my ubuntu . for that purpose. Now the "Turbo C" folder is my desktop. I have also installed DOSBox Emulator. Now tell me how to give path to open and run that
[03:27] <Paddy_NI> fisix: not as yet.. I am still looking though :)
[03:27] <kudonline> hi
[03:28] <ScarabDrowner> hey sancas, did it work?
[03:28] <xzwerm> hello
[03:28] <mickster04> naomi_: uhm, sounds pretty generic
[03:28] <sancas> yeah ScarabDrowner thanks for all but i have more problems :D
[03:28] <mickster04> wirrr: did you try it?
[03:28] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: uh oh ^_^
[03:28] <sartan> does ntfs-3g automatically allow read-write ?
[03:28] <kudonline> lone
[03:28] <wirrr> yes, again: when i run synaptic from terminal it also tries to run, then stops responding, and you have to force quit
[03:29] <naomi_> mickster04:  how do i fix it? >.>
[03:29] <sartan> i haven't done ntfs on linux for like 9 years when it was still readonly and write support was experimental
[03:29] <sancas> im trying use wireless_link_bar but i dont have goods results :(
[03:29] <xzwerm> ScarabDrowner: what about for example, slackware is very "unix like" is ubuntu kind of the opposite?
[03:29] <sartan> is it safe to drop a win7 disk in fstab and drop virtualbox images on it? -- ntfs-3g.
[03:30] <ScarabDrowner> xzwerm: I wouldn't know, never used slackware. I think Ubuntu is closer to Windows/Mac than straight Unix, though
[03:30] <shcherbak> ScarabDrowner: mh?
[03:30] <alex86> guys, can`t set XChat transparent window.
[03:30] <ljsoftnet> can i use my usb joystick on supertux and supertuxcart?
[03:30] <alex86> transparent backgound
[03:31] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: I've never had luck with the wireless info in conky, other than IP address and up/down speed. I could never get my wifi strength to display
[03:31] <alex86> Transparent background is not found
[03:31] <xzwerm> well ubuntu is very easy to use, its very much for beginners, but does it lack versatility?
[03:31] <ScarabDrowner> shcherbak: sorry, what? I don't understand your question
[03:32] <sancas> but why my wireless interface is eth1 and not wlan0 ???
[03:32] <zee313> answer required from u guys
[03:32] <ScarabDrowner> xzwerm: nope, you can run everything in terminal if you wish
[03:32] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: same thing happened on my system, it was eth1 and not wlan0, I just rolled with it
[03:34] <zee313> ????
[03:34] <mickster04> naomi_: have you tried a different player?
[03:34] <naomi_> mickster04: I'm not sure what other players have the youtube thing built in? But I'll have a look
[03:35] <shcherbak> ScarabDrowner: Silding Ubuntu toward (doubtful) duo M$/MAC on your scale... Let's have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware
[03:35] <epzis> hi everyone i need help mounting and modifying an UDF iso file, problem is that if i extract the whole and create another iso it wont boot if burnt on a cd, is there any way to achieve this?
[03:36] <ExEvillBoSs> hi
[03:36] <sancas> ScarabDrowner, but is best use ${if_existing /proc/net/route eth0} them if_up eth0
[03:36] <mickster04> naomi_: vlc will let you enter urls?
[03:36] <ScarabDrowner> shcherbak: I was speaking from a complete lack of knowledge about slackware, but with some experience with MS/Mac and Ubuntu. As well as a few straight Unix machines in the military.
[03:37] <sancas> because if you desconnect your cable eth0 not be down allways stay up
[03:37] <wirrr> update manager is crashing in the same way. it cannot be used.
[03:37] <epzis> hi everyone i need help mounting and modifying an UDF iso file, problem is that if i extract the whole and create another iso it wont boot if burnt on a cd, is there any way to achieve this?
[03:38] <mickster04> wirrr: what even in terminal?
[03:38] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: if_up eth0 will report up when disconnected?
[03:38] <shcherbak> ScarabDrowner: Then you would want to start from GNU, pretty interesting how things have started.
[03:38] <sacarlson> epzis: there are tools like remastersys and others http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/
[03:39] <xzwerm> shcherbak, how have things started?
[03:39] <shcherbak> wirrr: Can you paste output of: sudo apt-get install -f
[03:39] <sancas> ScarabDrowner, i think :D because that happenend to me with my conky
[03:39] <epzis> sacarlson: i dont need a live cd O.o
[03:39] <folorn> j /kubuntu
[03:39] <sancas> and i use if_existing and disconnect my cable and tachan!! conky change to my wireless network :)
[03:40] <Paddy_NI> fisix: I really don't know man this is strange.. I cannot recreate your problem
[03:40] <shcherbak> xzwerm: history of Open Source...
[03:40] <kiddies> how to set iptables in ubuntu
[03:40] <mickster04> !iptables
[03:40] <sacarlson> epzis: they you could use kb3  to burn custom content disks
[03:40] <kiddies> oohh
[03:40] <kiddies> thanks
[03:40] <fisix> Paddy_NI, ahhh pidgin is a bunch of bollocks :( lemme try restarting..
[03:40] <epzis> sacarlson: i need to mount the iso, remove a file then close it and make it still bootable, any way?
[03:40] <kiddies> i'll check it 1st
[03:40] <Paddy_NI> fisix: lol
[03:41] <glassresistor> is there a correlary for add-apt-repository for removing them?
[03:41] <Paddy_NI> fisix: the trick is to stay calm
[03:41] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: seems that if_existing then if_up together would be the way to go then
[03:41] <Paddy_NI> fisix: you will be Buddha himself by the end of this :)
[03:41] <glassresistor> im trying to get rid of the mozilla daily ppa and use the mozilla stable ppa
[03:41] <qwebirc3504> hello
[03:42] <sacarlson> epzis: as far as I know you can't modify an iso , you can mount it copy the image of it, modify it and recreate another iso
[03:42] <xangua> glassresistor: install ppa-purge and run: sudo ppa-purge <ppa's name>
[03:42] <xzwerm> i like how easy it is to install with deb packages
[03:42] <fisix> Paddy_NI, LOL... <:D
[03:42] <xzwerm> is debian just as easy as ubuntu?
[03:42] <epzis> sacarlson: ouch....... how do i make the new one bootable?
[03:42] <epzis> sacarlson: because brasero doesnt want to do it lol
[03:42] <ScarabDrowner> xzwerm: I believe so, Ubuntu is based on Debian
[03:42] <sacarlson> epzis: I thought you said you don't need bootable
[03:42] <mickster04> fisix: you prolly shouldn't be using pidgin for irc :p
[03:42] <coz_> xzwerm,  it can have some differences... they are strictly gpl
[03:42] <glassresistor> xangua: thanks much
[03:43] <shcherbak> xzwerm: Some setting are different, but mostly, yes.
[03:43] <benzaldehyde> seriously screwed up irssi, i purged it and reinstalled but still i can't see anything
[03:43] <epzis> sacarlson: i do need bootable, if i just copy the files out and burn it doesnt boot
[03:43] <ljsoftnet> can i use my usb joystick on supertux and supertuxcart?
[03:43] <sacarlson> epzis: if you want bootable then look at the above remastersys or http://uck.sourceforge.net/  and others
[03:43] <shcherbak> benzaldehyde: Do you have themes in .irssi ?
[03:44] <shcherbak> benzaldehyde: and config?
[03:44] <ScarabDrowner> benzaldehyde: what do you mean by "anything"?
[03:44] <sancas> jey ScarabDrowner can you show me your desktop
[03:44] <epzis> sacarlson : does it work only for ubuntu?
[03:44] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: one sec
[03:44] <kudonline> do you know bactrack ?
[03:45] <ScarabDrowner> sancas: whole thing, or just conky?
[03:45] <sacarlson> epzis: well after you modify it , then it is no longer ubuntu
[03:45] <wirrr> mickster: yes, even when update-manager is run from terminal it crashes
[03:45] <rww> kudonline: Backtrack isn't a supported Ubuntu derivative. Try #backtrack-linux.
[03:45] <epzis> sacarlson: erm, re you saying that i can modify anything? even say bsd?
[03:45] <kudonline> ok thanks
[03:45] <sancas> ScarabDrowner, whole thing
[03:46] <glassresistor> xangua: any clue why thats not build in as remove-apt-repository or purge-apt-repository?
[03:46] <qwebirc3504> Can I install indicator-sysmonitor (for Natty) in Maverick? Here's the .deb package https://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor/+download
[03:46] <wirrr> hey: it says "bus error"
[03:46] <qwebirc3504> thanks
[03:46] <sacarlson> epzis: I'm not sure probly not, it's geared to find files in a location that may not match for a bsd system,  maybe try the bsd site if you want that
[03:46] <wirrr> also, apt-get is producing the same error. there is a bus error when reading the package list
[03:46] <epzis> sacarlson: erm , actually i dont need to modify an ubuntu cd though lol
[03:47] <coz_> epzis,  you should be able to change/ edit anything in unix as you do in linux  if that is what you meant
[03:47] <alex86> can`t set XChat window to be transparent, can anyone help?!
[03:47] <Blue1> !openvpn
[03:47] <epzis> coz_ : errr i need to edit an udf filesystem, it mounts as read only, thats it
[03:47] <qwebirc3504> alex86: #xchat
[03:47] <sacarlson> epzis: you must not have read what remastersys does,  it makes a total custom bootable cd from what you presently have running on your system
[03:48] <coz_> epzis,   well the suggestion to check with the bsk people is probably the best way to find solutions
[03:48] <coz_> epzis,  let me see if there is a channel
[03:48] <epzis> coz_ : whats bsk now?
[03:48] <epzis> sacarlson: what you mean by running?
[03:48] <coz_> epzis,   yes there is a #bsd channel
[03:49] <coz_> epzis,  bsk was a typo for bsd
[03:49] <epzis> coz_: oh lol
[03:49] <sacarlson> epzis: you customize your ubuntu system you now run the way you like it and capture that to a bootable cd
[03:49] <epzis> sacarlson: yes....but the udf filesystem has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:50] <sacarlson> epzis: you could for example setup a custom system in a virtualbox the way you want the capture that to a cd
[03:50] <sacarlson> epzis: ubuntu supports most file system I know
[03:51] <epzis> sacarlson: i may be the most ignorant person in the whole world but could you explain me why copying in a folder and burning with brasero doesnt boot ?
[03:51] <alex86> qwebirc3504: thanks
[03:51] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i set up a secure print server on my home network that windows can also see without it being hacked from the internet?
[03:51] <qwebirc3504> :)
[03:51] <epzis> sacarlson: and i dont mean "udf filesystem" as a support thing , i mean the udf filesystem is the name of my iso lol my bad
[03:51] <wirrr> tell me if i'm being annoying but i'm sure someone has had this problem before. apt-get, synaptic, and update-manager produce "bus error" when reading the package lists.
[03:52] <epzis> linux_is_my_hero: do you have a router?
[03:52] <Paddy_NI> wirrr: Can you get the full error message?
[03:52] <wirrr> it just says bus error
[03:52] <linux_is_my_hero> epzis: i have a ubuntu desktop with an installed printer, the desktop and all my laptops (2 of them) all have wifi through my wifi router
[03:52] <Paddy_NI> heh
[03:52] <wirrr> maybe i'm not sure what you mean
[03:52] <epzis> linux_is_my_hero: do you know how to set the printer up? (leave the secure bit)
[03:53] <linux_is_my_hero> epzis: the printer is already set up to print from the desktop as a local printer, im just new to doing a print server in ubuntu.
[03:54] <CodeWar> am getting constant system freezes .. using 10.10 its been there despite various kernel upgrades and nvidia graphics drivers
[03:54] <CodeWar> whats the best way to debug it head on
[03:54] <epzis> linux_is_my_hero: so you want the other computers to connect to the desktop to print?
[03:54] <linux_is_my_hero> epzis: yes :-)
[03:54] <Paddy_NI> wirrr: I got it.. just a sec
[03:54] <ScarabDrowner> I have an odd, persistent audio issue. Every time my screen turns off due to inactivity while music is playing, the audio will stutter a few times as the screen shuts off then goes back to normal. I haven't been able to find anything in the forums. Is this normal, or is there a solution available?
[03:54] <qwebirc3504> CodeWar: hardware problem maybe
[03:55] <CodeWar> qwebirc3504, unlikely .. Solaris 11 works great on the system and Ubuntu 10.04 never had any problems either
[03:55] <epzis> linux_is_my_hero: what os do the laptops use?
[03:55] <Paddy_NI> Okay wirrr are you proficient with the terminal?
[03:56] <linux_is_my_hero> they're all ubuntu 10.10, although theres a windows vista laptop the my gf has that i wanna set up later
[03:56] <wirrr> i would say, not very. with basic commands i'm ok...
[03:57] <qwebirc3504> CodeWar: so it's graphics related or memory or cpu .p
[03:57] <Paddy_NI> fair enough.. wirrr just open a terminal and type "sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*bin"
[03:57] <Paddy_NI> wirrr: wait
[03:58] <Paddy_NI> wirrr: "sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin"
[03:58] <ScarabDrowner> spooky
[03:58] <epzis> linux_is_my_hero: im probably not the right person to ask about this but you may want to have a look at this  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-printserver.html and for your joy the "secure bit" https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileprint-security.html    else some vintage documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/cups.html
[03:58] <qwebirc3504> wirrr: it will delete permanently all the .bin files in that folder.
[03:59] <wirrr> done
[03:59] <Hathadar> I just upgraded to samba4.  My original smb.conf is still in place and testparm is giving many errors from the outdated config file.  Is there a way I can reinstall samba4 and force it to overwrite my config so it will be fresh?
[03:59] <linux_is_my_hero> epzis: thanks! :-)
[03:59] <wirrr> i knew what it would do
[03:59] <Paddy_NI> wirrr: now try your package manager
[03:59] <mbrochh> hmmm... i am running ubuntu in a vbox... internet seems to work fine as I can use google chrome. However the update manager has A LOT of updates (63mb). Whenever I click at the install button it hangs when downloading the updates at 0MB
[03:59] <wirrr> it works
[03:59] <ScarabDrowner> Hathadar: can you not just rename or remove the original conf file?
[03:59] <Paddy_NI> wirrr: cool
[04:00] <wirrr> thanks!
[04:00] <Paddy_NI> No probs
[04:00] <epzis> linux_is_my_hero: you re welcome
[04:00] <mbrochh> i started unchecking all and installing them one by one. some of them say "has already been downloaded and can now be installed" - these updates work. some of them say, need to be downloaded - these do not work
[04:01] <LoJak> cant wait for the release of 11.4
[04:02] <wirrr> my laptop has lojak
[04:03] <Paddy_NI> mbrochh: Close your package manager then open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" provide your password and press "y" when prompted
[04:03] <CodeWar> whats the best tool/package to use for taking kernel crash dumps and debugging them
[04:04] <almoxarife> I am wondering is there is something with gui that would allow me to examine changes done to a file/s within my own system, ex: change between version????
[04:04] <Paddy_NI> almoxarife: like a local revision control for documents ?
[04:04] <mbrochh> Paddy_NI, 0% [Waiting for headers]
[04:04] <mbrochh> ... should I wait very long?
[04:04] <almoxarife> Paddy_NI: yes
[04:04] <Paddy_NI> mbrochh: yeah just let it work
[04:05] <mbrochh> Paddy_NI, it hangs at 0%... is that normal?
[04:05] <LoJak> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:05] <LoJak> :)
[04:05] <LoJak> @WIRR THANKS
[04:05] <Paddy_NI> almoxarife: google docs does this well, I have not found a local solution... but I guess you could run a version control system locally
[04:05] <shaneo> can anyone recommend a good tool to repair broken sectors in an hdd
[04:05] <Paddy_NI> mbrochh: what's happening now?
[04:06] <LoJak> I would have eventually done but nows a great time
[04:06] <almoxarife> Paddy_NI: google docs? I have it, there is a comparison feature?
[04:06] <mbrochh> Paddy_NI, Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main libdbus-1-3 i386 1.4.0-0ubuntu1.2
[04:06] <mbrochh>   Connection failed [IP: 141.30.13.30 80]
[04:06] <sacarlson> almoxarife: text files?  gitg is a gui that I use to monitor and commit changes to groups of text files
[04:06] <Paddy_NI> almoxarife: yep... its pretty cool
[04:06] <mbrochh> after that it says 0% waiting for headers
[04:07] <almoxarife> sacarlson: a script is txt?
[04:07] <sacarlson> almoxarife: yes it is
[04:07] <qwebirc3504> is there something like conky but for server (cli only) ?
[04:07] <moondog> LoJak: I just installed 10.10... and 11.4 is coming soon?
[04:07] <qwebirc3504> moondog: yes 28 april i think
[04:08] <Paddy_NI> qwebirc3504: like a server status monitor in ncurses?
[04:08] <moondog> why they skip so many numbers?
[04:08] <qwebirc3504> Paddy_NI: yes with all the info
[04:08] <sacarlson> almoxarife:  I also use git or gitg in /etc dir to monitor any changes there, those are all text files in /etc
[04:08] <ljsoftnet> can i install Faenza icons on xubuntu?
[04:08] <moondog> is 11.4 beta?
[04:08] <mbrochh> moondog, I *think* they release a new version every 6 months
[04:08] <qwebirc3504> moondog: 10= october 10 day
[04:08] <naomi_>  Kay. How on earth would I compile this Minitube thing? Is that like, expert advanced stuff or would a newbie be able to do it?
[04:08] <qwebirc3504> ;)
[04:08] <moondog> oh I see
[04:08] <xangua> moondog: it's based on date release
[04:08] <moondog> ah
[04:08] <xangua> ljsoftnet: yes
[04:08] <qwebirc3504> oops
[04:09] <moondog> well then 11.4 is a little late I'd say
[04:09] <ljsoftnet> xangua how?
[04:09] <qwebirc3504> moondog: month and year
[04:09] <qwebirc3504> year.month
[04:09] <coz_> moondog,   so 10.10 means  10 = 2010   .10 = October
[04:09] <qwebirc3504> like that
[04:09] <ScarabDrowner> qwebirc3504: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/applications/170421-ncurses-equivalent-conky.html
[04:09] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: they have it in the webupd8 ppa
[04:09] <xangua> ljsoftnet: add it's ppa, it's mentioned on it's page
[04:09] <moondog> alright, thanks for the info
[04:09] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: I would rather that than compiling it every time there is an update
[04:09] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: What on Earth is that?
[04:09] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: Sec
[04:10] <zarbula> Ubuntu, for some reason my Nvidia based motherboard's sound card isn't working so I bought this super cheap one that does work, however when I switch to the correct sound card in alsamixer it doesn't really change :( how can I even prove what linux sound solution my 10.10 install is even using?
[04:10] <qwebirc3504> ScarabDrowner: thanks there is a setting for conky run in CLI!
[04:10] <fizy[laptop]> iv looked thru the man pages and they just dont make any sense to me. how would i SSH into an external ip of say "123.456.789.369" on port "1234" as user "asdf"? what command would i type?
[04:10] <qwebirc3504> out_to_x no out_to_console yes :D:D:D:D
[04:10] <Paddy_NI> qwebirc3504: "IPTraf" seem part the way there
[04:11] <qwebirc3504> Paddy_NI: thats for connections right
[04:11] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: ssh user@ip:port
[04:11] <Paddy_NI> qwebirc3504: yeah
[04:11] <qwebirc3504> iptraf - Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor
[04:11] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: so with your example.  ssh asdf@123.456.789.369:1234
[04:11] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: thanks
[04:12] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: You can also use the -p flag for the port e.g. ssh -p 1234 user@111.222.333.444
[04:12] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: Or hostname: ssh user@server1.example.com
[04:12] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: More questions?
[04:12] <Voting> Some USB hard drive enclosures are compatible with smartctl and some are not, right? How do I find ones that are compatible? If this is not the right room to ask this question, what would be a good one for it?
[04:12] <qwebirc3504> btw I have a problem.. im trying to login to SSH server with private key but I always get permission denied... the other computer uses no encryption
[04:13] <fizy[laptop]> and will that work for external ips? like from school to my home pc? (and yes, i port forwarded right)
[04:13] <qwebirc3504> yes
[04:13] <Hathadar> Where can I find a list of programs available under apt-get?
[04:14] <qwebirc3504> fizy[laptop]: of course.
[04:14] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: If port forwarding is correct than yes
[04:14] <ScarabDrowner> Hathadar: synaptic
[04:14] <fizy[laptop]> qwebirc3504: try using sudo. almost all permission denied issues can be solved with sudo
[04:14] <qwebirc3504> Hathadar: dpkg --list
[04:14] <crunchbang> hi
[04:14] <qwebirc3504> fizy[laptop]: private key has nothing to do with sudo
[04:15] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: iv been running servers for years now. i hate it when people assume that the forwarding is messed up
[04:15] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: The forwarding is the toughest part for new people I think.
[04:15] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: Okay so open a terminal and type "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8" (without the quotes)  press enter and type your password pressing enter again
[04:16] <crunchbang> how can i use telnet? on terminal?
[04:16] <qwebirc3504> yes
[04:16] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: No offense but your not knowing how to ssh (and not knowing that it's the same command for public / private IPs) leads one to believe that you might not be familiar with port forwarding.
[04:16] <qwebirc3504> crunchbang: telnet IP
[04:16] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: once that is done type "sudo apt-get update"
[04:16] <guessswh0> telnet == insecure
[04:16] <edbian> crunchbang: but you probably want to use ssh unless you HAVE to telnet
[04:16] <qwebirc3504> crunchbang: dont forget telnet doesn not use encryption
[04:16] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: yeah. but im such a nerd with computers. iv been able to assemble a computer from parts and dual boot win and linux on it since i was 7
[04:16] <qwebirc3504> edbian: my router doesnt support ssh :p
[04:16] <crunchbang> command not found
[04:17] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: Nice.  Now learn how to ssh :)  (there is always more to learn)
[04:17] <qwebirc3504> only https
[04:17] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: i was just sick of using the remote deeskyop viewer program
[04:17] <crunchbang> thanks!!
[04:17] <edbian> qwebirc3504: Does it port forward?  Just forward port 22
[04:17] <guessswh0> telnet is not secure at all
[04:17] <guessswh0> it should not be used
[04:17] <guessswh0> ssh is secure for command line oprtations
[04:17] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: ssh = terminal.  Terminal is the only way to use your computer :)
[04:17] <guessswh0> operations*
[04:17] <qwebirc3504> edbian: router doesnt support ssh
[04:18] <qwebirc3504> edbian: it uses port 23 80 443
[04:18] <guessswh0> use a router that supports a secure protocol
[04:18] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: ikr? my next ubuntu project is to disable x at startup on my laptop. it uses way too much ram
[04:18] <crunchbang> aha ssh works!
[04:18] <guessswh0> such as ssh, or https
[04:18] <qwebirc3504> guessswh0: ...
[04:18] <edbian> qwebirc3504: The router doesn't need to 'support ssh' it only needs to forward port 22. (or any port for that matter)
[04:18] <littlebearz1> (edbian): but doesn't some router doesn't support port forwarding?
[04:19] <qwebirc3504> edbian: you didnt get. I cannot connect TO ROUTER using SSH
[04:19] <guessswh0> qwebirc3504 so use ssh
[04:19] <guessswh0> since it uses 443
[04:19] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: NO x means no graphics so web is very limited.
[04:19] <qwebirc3504> already tried
[04:19] <edbian> qwebirc3504: I agree.  I don't get it.
[04:19] <guessswh0> you just said it uses 443
[04:19] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: thats what w3m is for
[04:19] <edbian> littlebearz1: I'm not sure.  Probably (really bad ones)
[04:19] <coz_> mm anyone here had any luck in getting mouse over video previews  like mouse over audio previews??
[04:20] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: Yeah but no images, or javascript, or flash, or html 5 video / canvas... the list goes on :)
[04:20] <fizy[laptop]> brb. for some reason, i went into irssi without launching up screen first
[04:20] <qwebirc3504> edbian: of course i can telnet using a ssh tunnel. but thats not what I want.
[04:20] <guessswh0> dude
[04:20] <guessswh0> you just said you can use 443
[04:20] <guessswh0> for https
[04:20] <guessswh0> why not use that?
[04:20] <edbian> qwebirc3504: So you're trying to telnet into the router itself?
[04:20] <fizy[laptop]> my laptop has 128 megs of ram. those dont run anyways
[04:20] <qwebirc3504> yes edbian
[04:20] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: haha,  try puppy linux.  It'll fly
[04:20] <fizy[laptop]> anyways. be back in a sec
[04:20] <edbian> qwebirc3504: Sorry!  I didn't realize that was the goal!  :P
[04:20] <qwebirc3504> :)
[04:21] <qwebirc3504> gui I use https but cli I have to telnet .
[04:21] <guessswh0> why are you helping him administer a router in an insecure manner?
[04:21] <guessswh0> do it over 443
[04:21] <guessswh0> via https
[04:21] <Nautilus> quick Q... whats an appropriate permissions setting for .htaccess?  444?  (IOW, read-only)    Except of course when an edit is being made.
[04:21] <qwebirc3504> guessswh0: dude.. I already know that im stating it doesnt support SSH.
[04:21] <Nautilus> or does apache need execute priveledges?
[04:21] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: didn't change anything. still getting the error. D;
[04:21] <guessswh0> https is not SSH!!!!!!
[04:21] <fizy[laptop]> whatd i miss?
[04:21] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: "the error" ?
[04:22] <guessswh0> https is in no way SSH
[04:22] <guessswh0> they are COMPLETELTY different
[04:22] <qwebirc3504> guessswh0: who said it is?
[04:22] <qwebirc3504> ....
[04:22] <edbian> guessswh0: https is not telnet
[04:22] <intx> okay since this will go on forever
[04:22] <naomi_> Oh wait. I'm talking about the movie player error. So that thing installed Minitube for me or whatever?
[04:22] <mbrochh> Paddy_NI, in update manager i went to settings, and let it chose the best server for my location... now it works
[04:22] <edbian> qwebirc3504: guessswh0 for the record https is also not a hotdog.
[04:23] <sacarlson> guessswh0: beleave it or not some features of some routers can't all be changed with the web interface you still need to telnet
[04:23] <qwebirc3504> guessswh0: my router does not support SSH. so I have to use telnet (CLI) or https (GUI..with browser)
[04:23] <guessswh0> oh, i thought it was a hot dog
[04:23] <intx> i'm going to interrupt.. qwebirc3504 means he wants his router to have a ssh 'server' running on it, probably so he doesn't have to have a computer to do tunneling
[04:23] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: no you need now to type into the terminal "sudo apt-get install minitube"
[04:23] <fizy[laptop]> but yeah edbian when i get the time, im putting a stripped down gentoo install on my laptop. i need every bit of free resources i can get
[04:23] <mbrochh> Paddy_NI, i setup this machine in germany but now i am in singapore... updates worked fine for many months but recently stopped working...
[04:23] <qwebirc3504> intx: no i dont want anything.
[04:23] <guessswh0> if you need to change a router via telnet, you need a new router
[04:23] <Paddy_NI> oh
[04:23] <Paddy_NI> mbrochh: well happy days :)
[04:23] <guessswh0> if you need to change a router via telnet, you need a new router
[04:23] <intx> then why do you care?
[04:23] <mbrochh> Paddy_NI, thanks for your help :)
[04:23] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: That's a lot of work!!  good luck :)  (gentoo is a bit of a pain)
[04:23] <qwebirc3504> guessswh0: via terminal ONLY ACCEPTS TELNET
[04:23] <sacarlson> qwebirc3504: so use telnet then
[04:23] <Paddy_NI> mbrochh: No problem
[04:23] <qwebirc3504> .
[04:24] <qwebirc3504> it's over the LAN anyway.
[04:24] <guessswh0> you need a new rouer
[04:24] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: yeah, but it boots before you let go of the power button
[04:24] <edbian> qwebirc3504: Just ignore him and telnet into your router.
[04:24] <guessswh0> router
[04:24] <guessswh0> ugh...
[04:24] <qwebirc3504> guessswh0: buy me one please :)
[04:24] <intx> i want a router with telnet
[04:24] <guessswh0> does no one in this channel do anything securely?
[04:24] <qwebirc3504> or tell my ISP to give me another
[04:24] <intx> most use http(s) :(
[04:24] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: I'd love to talk more but we're off topic.  Do you need help with Ubuntu?  (arch boots faster I hear...)
[04:24] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: Oh if it prompts you to press "y" then go ahead
[04:25] <Nautilus> guesswh: trying to, see my question above, trying to lock down .htaccess (though I'm not sure how necesssary it is, just seemed like a good idea)
[04:25] <linux_is_my_hero> i think a boot time of 35 second against 1 minute 35 seconds with windows vista sure  is a lot faster
[04:25] <guessswh0> I'll stop if that is not what people do.  But as an information security enginner, I can't promote anything over telnet
[04:25] <Nautilus> guessswh0: ^sorry for typo on your nick
[04:25] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone upgraded to firefox 4 yet? i have x64 so its not so simple
[04:25] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: BTW, as far as boot times go.  Ubuntu is one of the fastest.
[04:25] <qwebirc3504> guessswh0: Im using webchat with encryption, i coulde use irssi+ssl .  or a VPN.. you are not teaching me anything. lol
[04:25] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: actuallt yes. at the risk of sounding like a moron, how can i run a .sh script via command line? im sure im missing something obvious
[04:25] <tass> sudo sh file
[04:26] <guessswh0> I'm not trying to "teach people anything"
[04:26] <guessswh0> just promote secure communications
[04:26] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: either sh file.sh  or ./file.sh  Is the script executable?
[04:26] <qwebirc3504> !ot | guessswh0
[04:27] <sacarlson> qwebirc3504: try man telnet
[04:27] <linux_is_my_hero> ubottu, what is 22 divided by 7?
[04:27] <linux_is_my_hero> lmao
[04:27] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero: Is there a point to that?
[04:27] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: yes. its just one command. one long and ugly command. (my intent is to have my friend be able to ssh into my pc and start up my server if im away. but the command to do so is ugly)
[04:27] <qwebirc3504> sacarlson: I already know how to use it...
[04:27] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: nothing will play for me in Minitube. It searches and finds the video fine but when I press play nothg happens
[04:27] <naomi_> Nothing^
[04:27] <qwebirc3504> sacarlson: i do not want help to telnet or ssh
[04:27] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: have u tried firefox 4 on x64 10.10 yet?
[04:27] <qwebirc3504> ..
[04:27] <linux_is_my_hero> has anyone tried firefox 4 on x64 10.10 yet?
[04:27] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: Clever.  Are you able to get it to run?
[04:28] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero: I am running firefox4 on Debian Stable (32 bit)
[04:28] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: what was your original issue?
[04:28] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: In movie player or with Minitube?
[04:28] <Hathadar> How do I install a fresh instance of a program using apt-get?  Currently apt-get will not write config files if they have been manually deleted before.
[04:28] <linux_is_my_hero> im trying to find a x64 version of firefox 4 without doing the ol' "force architecture" trick, which has inherient instablities.
[04:28] <Paddy_NI> linux_is_my_hero: yes
[04:28] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: movie player
[04:28] <guessswh0> !ot | qwebirc3504
[04:29] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: yes. i can double click it fine. i just want my SSHing friend to be able to run it by typing in sh smp_start.sh rather than a big ugly command in the sh file
[04:29] <linux_is_my_hero> paddy_ni: how is it?
[04:29] <qwebirc3504> !botabuse > guessswh0
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> linux_is_my_hero: use the mozilla stable ppa
[04:29] <qwebirc3504> bye
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> linux_is_my_hero: pretty damn good
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> linux_is_my_hero: I still use chromium though
[04:29] <linux_is_my_hero> paddy_ni: did u have to do a firce architecture command, or did they have a x64 release availible in the ppa?
[04:29] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: If you put the script in /usr/local/bin anybody can run it from anywhere with just the filename.  (make sure the script starts with #!/bin/bash)
[04:29] <linux_is_my_hero> *force
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> well both
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> linux_is_my_hero: nope
[04:30] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Running ubuntu from live disk, the computer has a known hard drive with bad sectors.  I ran sudo badblocks /dev/sda and it scanned it, but I don't think it DID anything.  How do I get badblocks to mark the bad sectors so they will not be used?
[04:30] <guessswh0> qwebirc3504 please start using a secure method for administration, then I can agree with you
[04:31] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: ON the sidebar of movie player when i searched a youtube vid all the videos came up fine but when i tried to play one it said "Error GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error." I googled that and it was some sort of bug.. but idk how to fix it or what to do
[04:31] <linux_is_my_hero> pddy_ni: meaning you didnt have to force architecture or they didn't have the x64 in the ppa?
[04:31] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: alrighties. also, how can i run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" automatically at startup? its annoying having to do that every time i reboot to enable the wifi drivers
[04:31] <Mediarocker> Sorry
[04:31] <Mediarocker> setting up nickserv
[04:31] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: hmm which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:31] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: make a script with that command in it (without the sudo) and use sudo update-rc.d scriptName
[04:31] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: 10.04 lucid
[04:31] <McHearty> Does anyone know if theres a conf for v4l2?
[04:31] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: sounds like a gstreamer issue
[04:31] <edbian> fizy[laptop]: Make sure the script starts with #!/bin/bash as well
[04:31] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: okay one sec
[04:32] <Axlin`> linux_is_my_hero: the ppa does have the x64 version. no force architecture needed
[04:32] <linux_is_my_hero> axlin':it's been awhile since i screwed with a ppa, can u give me a hand with that?
[04:34] <Axlin`> linux_is_my_hero: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: Okay it seems the bug is fixed in the "proposed" repository, so would you like to enable that?
[04:35] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: I'd like to enable whatever the hell will get it working. :P
[04:35] <joexcode> how to make ubuntu as an access point?
[04:35] <Paddy_NI> lol
[04:35] <linux_is_my_hero> adlin': just for understanding of linux, whats exactly is a repository, besides just a place on the internet where linux computers can get install files from?
[04:35] <McHearty> Does anyone know if theres a conf for v4l2?
[04:35] <linux_is_my_hero> adlin': and what keeps virus from going into repos and killing the entire linux world?
[04:36] <Paddy_NI> okay naomi_ so go to "system > administration > software sources"
[04:36] <Hathadar> I manually deleted my smb.conf file for samba and now apt-get will not install a fresh copy.  How do I force it to install fresh copies of all config files?
[04:36] <Axlin`> linux_is_my_hero: that's essentially it. it provides a software source you can use to keep your computer up to date, and to easily find, install, and uninstall software
[04:36] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: Yep.
[04:37] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: do you see a "proposed repo"
[04:37]  * McHearty sighs
[04:37] <S74rk7> anyone know how to minimize full screen applications? shortcut keys or something?
[04:37] <sacarlson> linux_is_my_hero: and encryption keys to verify that the files on the repository are kept to make sure they are not corupted
[04:37] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Software_Sources.png
[04:37] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: Ummm. Nope. What tab? Or whereabouts?
[04:37] <McHearty> S74rk7: what wm are you using?
[04:38] <S74rk7> for example...if I have xbmc open, can I 'switch' to the desktop and minimize xbmc --- instead of having to exit out of it?
[04:38] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: Proposed Updates
[04:38] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: I have that but it's all greyed in. Can't click any of them
[04:38] <McHearty> S74rk7: you could run xbmc on another workspace and switch between them
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> sacarlson: so when i tell my computer to add a repo and then update what exactly is it doing and where do the keys come from to let it into the repo int he first place?
[04:38] <S74rk7> Alt+Tab won't seem to work...
[04:38] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: okay close that
[04:39] <S74rk7> McHearty: I'll give that I try -thanks :)
[04:39] <Kyarra> Sorry to interrupt but can i have some assistance please?
[04:39] <linux_is_my_hero> sacarlson: and whats to keep the repos from being hacked and still have the same keys to unlock them, which would open backdoors on linux machines everywhere?
[04:39] <McHearty> S74rk7: i think for gnomme its ctrl + shift + left/right
[04:39] <McHearty> Can someone help me with v4l2?
[04:39] <Kyarra> Can someone please help my?
[04:39] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: type in a terminal "gksu software-properties-gtk" press enter
[04:39] <Kyarra> me*
[04:40] <Mediarocker> Ok. apparently I'm banned on ##Linux for some odd reason? (I just connected last night... so idk why.)
[04:40] <Kyarra> My android locked me out how do i undo it?
[04:40] <Mediarocker> Either that or unvoiced or something
[04:40] <McHearty> lol what did u do Mediarocker
[04:40] <Mediarocker> Idk
[04:40] <benzaldehyde> Mediarocker: is your nick registered?
[04:40] <Mediarocker> Just registered right now
[04:40] <McHearty> Kyarra: were you rooting it or did it just lock on normal operation?
[04:41] <benzaldehyde> Mediarocker: they might have thought you were spam, give a while
[04:41] <naomi_> Paddy_NI:  it's still greyed in. :(
[04:41] <philip_> Hi guys, during a backup with grsync, i accidentally deleted some folders on the destination usb drive. Can i do something to get them back?
[04:41] <McHearty> Can someone help me with v4l2?
[04:41] <Paddy_NI> naomi_: Give me just a moment.. I need more tea and a smoke :-)
[04:41] <Mediarocker> Yep.
[04:41] <Kyarra> well it exceeded too many attepmts with the password because i kept messing up
[04:41] <naomi_> Paddy_NI: Okie, thanks.
[04:41] <Mediarocker> benzaldehyde, that solved the problem
[04:41] <Mediarocker> I forgot to verify
[04:41] <Kyarra> so i pressed on forgot password and i cant seem to get out
[04:41] <Mediarocker> thanks!
[04:41] <McHearty> Kyarra: just wait for a while its got a timed wait period
[04:42] <benzaldehyde> Mediarocker: :)
[04:42] <McHearty> Kyarra: remove battery if it stays frozen
[04:42] <Kyarra> it happened about 5 hours ago D:
[04:42] <sacarlson> linux_is_my_hero: this seems to explain some of what you want to know http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
[04:42] <McHearty> Kyarra: what rom are you running?
[04:42] <Kyarra> wait what? -sorry-
[04:43] <McHearty> Kyarra: if ur on a stock rom, just remove battery
[04:43] <Kyarra> i tried that, its still not working.
[04:43] <McHearty> did you root your phone?
[04:43] <McHearty> or is it stock?
[04:44] <Kyarra> wait what? sorry i don't really know .
[04:44] <S74rk7> McHearty: it won't seem to work, I tried even the desktops individual shortcut keys and it doesnt work nor the "show the plasma dashboard" shortcut keys ... stumped...
[04:44] <McHearty> S74rk7: what wm are you running?
[04:44] <Mediarocker> Lets see if this reburn of 10.10 will work...correctly.. it already fudged my GRUB.
[04:45] <philip_> Hi guys, during a backup with grsync, i accidentally deleted some folders on the destination usb drive. Can i do something to get them back?
[04:45] <ruan> !undelete
[04:46] <Kyarra> okay so this is what happened , i messed up on my password A LOT, so it exceeded the limit i had to wait for 30 seconds and i accidentaly pressd forgot password now it says log into my google account no matter how many times i try it says its wrong and im sure its right, help?
[04:46] <ljsoftnet> can i downgrade packages from ppa software sources?
[04:46] <McHearty> Kyarra: boot into recovery
[04:46] <S74rk7> McHearty: I'm not running it from a vm... if your referring to a virtual machine - its the XBMC package from the kpackagekit ... unless even that operates as a live cd almost?
[04:46] <Halzen> Downgrade as in revert updates? You'll likely need to reinstall...
[04:46] <McHearty> S74rk7: window manager :P
[04:46] <McHearty> S74rk7: w looks like v -_-
[04:47] <ljsoftnet> Halzen yes, reinstall ubuntu?
[04:47] <Kyarra> McHearty: and how do i do that? -SORRY- >_<
[04:47] <McHearty> Kyarra: i believe its powerbutton + back or powerbutton + home at boot
[04:47] <mikeypizano> anyone here have an asus t91? i need help calibrating the touchscreen
[04:47] <Halzen> No, reinstall your package. Remove it and reinstall it through Synaptic. :)
[04:47] <Kyarra> okay -sorry-
[04:48] <Kyarra> McHearty: Bye the way my phone is an Xperia x10 but its also and android
[04:48] <Halzen> Has anyone tested Gnome 3.0? Does the vanilla Gnome look any different from Gnome 2 when you disable Gnome Shell?
[04:48] <S74rk7> McHearty: ahh I'm an idiot.. sorry mate - switching back and forth..thats what I get reading too quick.. :)
[04:48] <McHearty> Kyarra: Should still apply for all androids
[04:48] <S74rk7> McHearty: Dolphin..
[04:48] <McHearty> S74rk7: you could try running a tiling wm and run windowed borderless
[04:49] <McHearty> S74rk7: same effect and less hassle
[04:49] <Kyarra> McHearty: what do i do after?
[04:49] <McHearty> Kyarra: uhh clear your dalvik cache
[04:50] <McHearty> Kyarra: then when you boot in it'll be like you just got ur phone but ur issue should be solved
[04:50] <ljsoftnet> Halzen is there an easier way?
[04:50] <hariykeyboard> can anyone point me to a good tutorial on how to install a .deb file I just manually downloaded?  All I have ever used has been synaptic so I'm really clueless when it comes to this .config stuff.  Specifically where should I put this package when unpacking it?  Can I only run certain programs in certain places, or can the program ever work like a .exe file that runs anywhere as soon as I click it?
[04:50] <Kyarra> ... my what? -im soo stuupid sorry-
[04:50] <S74rk7> McHearty: I'm not following mate? but could you suggest a tiling windows manager and I'll go search and read up?
[04:50] <McHearty> Kyarra: unfortunately you'll lose apps and but ur sd content will not be changed
[04:50] <Halzen> ljsoftnet: an easier way to do what? O.o
[04:50] <McHearty> S74rk7: there's three really good ones, DWM, WMii, i3
[04:50] <ljsoftnet> Halzen downgrading packages
[04:51] <McHearty> S74rk7: it takes a little getting used to but it's pretty efficient
[04:51] <Halzen> McHearty: Clearing your Dalvik cache shouldn't affect your apps or anything.
[04:51] <Kyarra> McHearty: -im so stupid- whats a dalvich cache?
[04:51] <ruan> hariykeyboard: it depends on the package, but it can be opened with package manager
[04:51] <McHearty> Halzen: It's always dropped me back to stock install
[04:51] <Halzen> ljsoftnet: Not that I'm aware of. When an update breaks my apps, I just apt-get remove them and do apt-get install again.
[04:51] <sacarlson> hariykeyboard: just double click the .deb file it should open the installer
[04:51] <McHearty> Halzen: well for the rom I'm running at least
[04:52] <Halzen> McHearty: Is this with a stock phone or with rooted + Clockwork? None of the three ROMs I use have been wiped in the least by Dalvik clears.
[04:52] <hariykeyboard> ruan: oo! can I just load it into the package manager and it will take care of the dependencies for me?
[04:52] <ruan> hariykeyboard: it should
[04:52] <Kyarra> whats a dalvich cache? im sorry im not used to this.
[04:52] <ruan> hariykeyboard: if they are accessible
[04:52] <McHearty> Halzen: rooted + clockwork
[04:52] <zarbula> Ubuntu, for some reason my Nvidia based motherboard's sound card isn't working so I bought this super cheap one that does work, however when I switch to the correct sound card in alsamixer I still have no sound, and the volume mixer in gnome always shows as blank, and if I click sound preference it just hangs at "waiting for sound system to respond" any idea?
[04:52] <McHearty> Halzen: Running an aosp cm7 2.3.3 build
[04:52] <Halzen> McHearty: That's weird...
[04:52] <sacarlson> hariykeyboard: or in cli just sudo dpkg -i nameof.deb
[04:53] <ljsoftnet> Halzen what does this do? sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[04:53] <Peddy> where does Gnome store mouse settings?
[04:53] <McHearty> Halzen: though it's been a while since I've done it so I could be wrong
[04:53] <Halzen> zarbula: could you tell me exactly what motherboard sound device you're using?
[04:53] <Kyarra> im sorry but can some one help me? I have no idea what to do.xD
[04:53] <ohsix> Peddy: gconf-editor has a search, i think its gnome-settings-daemon
[04:53] <Halzen> ljsoftnext: that fully removes the app, like a full uninstall.
[04:53] <McHearty> Can someone give me a hand with a v4l2 issue?
[04:54] <zarbula> Halzen: It's Nvidia based, and it's currently disabled so I can't.. It was the only way to get sound to play though the other sound card.
[04:54] <McHearty> nvidia based sound device?
[04:54] <sacarlson> McHearty: did you try your cam with cheese ?
[04:54] <Peddy> ohsix, oh, the "search" button sure helped. It's under desktop>gnome. Thanks!
[04:54] <zarbula> Halzen: Now that it's the only sound card it's still doing the same thing :*(
[04:54] <Kyarra> McHearty: Okay, so i know the problem the problem is a bug, but i don't know how to get rid of it
[04:54] <Halzen> zarbula: Unfortunately, there are lot's of Nvidia-based mobos using different sound devices. I'd need you to find the name of the product for me to look up driver options.
[04:55] <McHearty> sacarlson: I want to edit the configuration without thirdparty interferance, webcamstudio is the only working fix but it's cpu intensive
[04:55] <ohsix> look for a chip with a crab logo on it :D
[04:55] <McHearty> sacarlson: but I can't find any solid documentation
[04:55] <theamazingbeat> hey guys i know it is rude to ask a question right when I enter but I really need help with this..... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10620302#post10620302
[04:56] <mikeypizano> anyone know to calibrate an ideacom touchscreen
[04:56] <jiltdil> how to install update of update manager from terminal?
[04:56] <lifestream> Windows has sound effects, for example, Environment, Bass boost, Equalizer, etc. Is there something similar in Linux?  Thanks.
[04:56] <sacarlson> McHearty: so it's a cam problem?   what hardware is it lspci or lsusb if you don't already know
[04:56] <McHearty> sacarlson: I'd like to tweak values like saturation permenantly
[04:57] <Halzen> theamazingbeat: You were getting warmer at the end of your post. It sounds like you need to add SMTP server settings to each of your mailbox accounts.
[04:57] <Kyarra> Anyone know how to reset a XPERIAx10? I mean hard reset? And lose all the data, its okay, but im LOCKED in my phone i need help!!
[04:57] <McHearty> sacarlson: the cam works fine but I'd like it to be forced in black and white
[04:57] <Kyarra> I mean locked out of my phone
[04:57] <sacarlson> McHearty: I guess you could make a script that sets it at some point before you run your app
[04:57] <Halzen> Kyarra: Try this: http://www.technipages.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-hard-reset.html
[04:57] <mikeypizano> my touchscreen works fine but cant seem to find how to calibrate it
[04:57] <jiltdil> how to install update of update manager from terminal?
[04:57] <ruan> how do i make a launcher execute a file in its current working directory?
[04:58] <ruan> jiltdil: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:58] <McHearty> sacarlson: if I was running it through vlc or something I know of a workaround, but I want to set it for flash and am completely lost
[04:58] <theamazingbeat> Halzen, there is
[04:59] <sacarlson> McHearty: so you want to transmit the webcam to flash?
[04:59] <Kyarra> Halzen: thank you i'll try it ( :
[04:59] <ruan> if i try gnome-terminal -x cd directory, it fails to cd 'Failed to execute child process "cd" (No such file or directory)'
[04:59] <Halzen> Kyarra: Good luck!
[04:59] <McHearty> sacarlson: it already transmits to flash, I want to force it to transmit in black and white
[04:59] <jiltdil> ruan:ok thanx
[04:59] <mikeypizano> anyone know to calibrate an ideacom touchscreen?????
[05:00] <ohsix> McHearty: theres v4l2 loopback devices, and effectv
[05:00] <theamazingbeat> the email goes through that is not the problem, the problem is it is basically: Email->Exchange Server(just passes right through it)-> GMail SMTP->Send Email->Reciepent
[05:00] <hariykeyboard> sacarlson, when after double clicking a .deb file and it says "Dependency is not satisfiable" what does that mean?
[05:00] <theamazingbeat> the problem is it goes through the exchange
[05:00] <theamazingbeat> the exchange is my work email
[05:00] <theamazingbeat> and the gmail is my personal
[05:00] <McHearty> ohsix: is there any way to do it without external help?
[05:00] <theamazingbeat> so i think u can figure out why this needs to be changed
[05:00] <Halzen> theamazingbeat: Hmm... I dunno. Have you posted in a Windows 7 forum?
[05:01] <ruan> ok i learned from the main menu..
[05:01] <ohsix> McHearty: generally no, some cameras offer color controls; but its easier just to get software in the middle
[05:01] <theamazingbeat> i realized this because I saw recent contacts in my exchange server that were actually part of gmail
[05:01] <sacarlson> hariykeyboard: must mean that the repository can't find a part of what your deb application needs.
[05:01] <theamazingbeat> yes I have Halzen
[05:01] <McHearty> ohsix: if I wasn't on a legacy machine it wouldn't be an issue -_-
[05:01] <theamazingbeat> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/outlook/thread/d23387d7-d3d8-44b3-8381-2fbb65534c02
[05:01] <ohsix> McHearty: effectv has lots of neat hacks too :] not just black and white
[05:01] <Halzen> theamazingbeat: Well, I'm only familiar enough with Outlook to know why it annoys me. Sorry. =/
[05:01] <ohsix> McHearty: you don't think having black and white will save cpu do you?
[05:01] <McHearty> ohsix: very few cycles to spare for other programs
[05:02] <icedtea> ruan: "cd" is a shell command and not a program on most linux and unix systems I believe, you could have gnome-terminal execute a shell script though
[05:02] <McHearty> ohsix: no haha
[05:02] <theamazingbeat> Halzen, it annoys me to lmfao
[05:02] <ohsix> ok good
[05:02] <sacarlson> hariykeyboard: it might be easier if you told us the name of the application you want to install,  there may be ppa repository to install it
[05:02] <speedrunnerG55> how can i pull up information about my lan and internet ( conection speed) like is it a 10mb/ces or 100mb/sec
[05:02] <Halzen> theamazingbeat: Don't Evolution and Thunderbird support Exchange?
[05:02] <ohsix> speedrunnerG55: ifconfig will tell you the media mode, so will mii-tool
[05:02] <McHearty> ohsix: I was just bring up the cycles because that's why I'll looking for an alternative to software
[05:02] <McHearty> I'm*
[05:02] <hariykeyboard> sacarlson, streamtuner2-2.0.8
[05:02] <speedrunnerG55> ifconfig.
[05:02] <theamazingbeat> i tried thunderbird, doesnt work for me
[05:03] <speedrunnerG55> is thaTY LIKE IPCONFIGH
[05:03] <theamazingbeat> and i dont like evolution at all
[05:03] <jiltdil> my laptop is not connecting to net  via LAN should i use ifconfig eth0 up?
[05:03] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: yea
[05:03] <icedtea> speedrunnerG55: yes;,except better
[05:03] <ruan> yeah i did env WINEPREFIX=
[05:03] <ohsix> speedrunnerG55: no, not like ipconfig, ipconfig does lots of things other than telling you about an interface
[05:03] <Halzen> theamazingbeat: Well, if it were me, I would just forward the Exchange address to my Gmail so that I can handle it within Google's webmail site, but that's just me.
[05:03] <bin_bash> Hello.
[05:04] <Halzen> Hi thar.
[05:04] <ruan> wine's main menu entries taught me how to do i
[05:04] <ruan>                                              ^t
[05:04] <pp7> anyone get GTA4 working in wine?
[05:04] <ruan> pp7: see the appdb
[05:04] <layoer> hi
[05:04] <McHearty> ohsix: so no workaround for it without software?
[05:04] <jiltdil> chanel for window 7?
[05:04] <speedrunnerG55> so were is the connection speed and what is mii-tool
[05:04] <bin_bash> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 on my MBP 5,5 and I am interested in backing up my harddrive to and external one. I would like to back eerything up in the case that I were to lose everything. What is the best and easiest way to do this?
[05:05] <pp7> bin_bash: dd
[05:05] <ruan> !dd
[05:05] <ohsix> McHearty: well, the driver that would do it is software too
[05:05] <Halzen> pp7: Since Windows Live (Games for Windows) doesn't work even a little in Wine, you'd have a rough time getting that to work.
[05:05] <bin_bash> pp7: what is dd?
[05:05] <McHearty> ohsix: is it something I need installed, or something I can edit?
[05:05] <speedrunnerG55> \?
[05:05] <layoer> hello
[05:05] <pp7> bin_bash: dd makes an image of something
[05:05] <ruan> GFWL can be disabled, but im not sure if gta would work after that
[05:06] <pp7> bin_bash: so eg. dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=myimage.iso
[05:06] <speedrunnerG55> what is the difference between lo and etho
[05:06] <Mediarocker> 10.10 install is working! I made a bad burn previously. Rawr. Either way, I just wiped the drive and put 10.10 on the whole drive. :)
[05:06] <bin_bash> pp7: so then how do i know what to put as the first part?
[05:06] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: lo is the internal loopback interface
[05:06] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: eth0 is *usually* your ethernet card
[05:07] <speedrunnerG55> really
[05:07] <speedrunnerG55> when wouldnt it be
[05:07] <Mediarocker> speedrunnerG55, LO is loopback and eth0 is your physical NIC, sometimes it's your wireless card.
[05:07] <pp7> bin_bash: run the df command
[05:07] <ruan> im on ethernet linked to wifi, no wireless card at all
[05:07] <speedrunnerG55> ok
[05:07] <Halzen> Yeah, auto eth0 is what I see for both my onboard LAN and my USB wireless.
[05:07] <Mediarocker> pp7, lol you got me.
[05:07] <speedrunnerG55> rx bytes, is that my speeD?
[05:07] <ruan> just a cable, no cards
[05:07] <bin_bash> pp7: what does the df command do
[05:07] <Kyarra> Halzen: i tried hard reset it still wont work.
[05:07] <pp7> rx is the amount of bytes received
[05:08] <Kyarra> well it did reset but im still having an issue
[05:08] <pp7> bin_bash: i just told you... scroll up :)
[05:08] <speedrunnerG55> wheres the speed
[05:08]  * McHearty sighs
[05:08] <jiltdil> bin_bash:df means disk free just use and see
[05:08] <zee313> is there any downloader in ubuntu?
[05:08] <Halzen> Kyarra: That's trouble. What happens when you try to turn it on? Any lights, sounds, vibration?
[05:08] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: you need another app to see speed
[05:08] <pp7> such as bwm-ng
[05:08] <bin_bash> so if it says /dev/sda5
[05:08] <Halzen> zee313: What do you mean?
[05:08] <bin_bash> then that's what i need to mirror?
[05:08] <pp7> bin_bash: yea that sounds like it
[05:08] <speedrunnerG55> ........are you serious
[05:09] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: serious as cancer :)
[05:09] <ruan> zee313: download managers? yes there are several
[05:09] <speedrunnerG55> its sounds pritty rediculous since windows can tell me this stuff with no troubble
[05:09] <ruan> zee313: i use fatrat and wget
[05:09] <Kyarra> Halzen: well when i turn it , it turns on but, my issue is that im locked out of my phone because of a page that says log into my google account. it'll stay there no matter what.
[05:09] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: ROFL
[05:09] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: just do a sudo apt-get install bwm-ng
[05:09] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: then run bwm-ng
[05:09] <zee313> ruan: thanks
[05:10] <pp7> speedrunnerG55: what has windows got to do with anything?
[05:10] <bin_bash> pp7: How do I know what to copy it to
[05:10] <speedrunnerG55> windows is usually not equiped with usefull tools
[05:10] <Kyarra> Halzen: It only went to that page because of the limit for too many attempts for password.
[05:10] <pp7> bin_bash: are you backing it up to a USB drive or something?
[05:11] <bin_bash> pp7: it's an external hard drive. western digital
[05:11] <pp7> bin_bash: ok so use that :P
[05:11] <bin_bash> right but how do I know the title
[05:11] <bin_bash> or label or whatever
[05:11] <bin_bash> this is my first time backing up from a linux machine
[05:11] <pp7> bin_bash: that'll probably be mounted to /media/something
[05:11] <bin_bash> os x just does it for you
[05:12] <pp7> bin_bash: does osx read your mind too? :P
[05:12] <bin_bash> pp7: yeah basically
[05:12] <bin_bash> :P
[05:12] <speedrunnerG55> type "run bwm-ng"
[05:12] <pp7> bin_bash: ahh great OS then :P
[05:12] <Kyarra> can someone PLEASE help me??
[05:12] <speedrunnerG55> or were is it in the gui
[05:12] <bin_bash> pp7: is there a command to figure out what the external hdd path is?
[05:12] <Kyarra> hi, um well im having a problem with my xperia x10, i ecxeeded the limit of putting in passwords because i kept messing up, so there was an option either wait 30 seconds or this button that says forgot password? I accidentaly pressed it so it lead me to this page , the header was Too many pattern attempts, and said to log into my google account, i wanted to go back but it wouldnt let me, im either thinking its a bug, or technical difficulties
[05:12] <pp7> bin_bash: like before use df
[05:13] <pp7> bin_bash: you'll see under "Mounted on"
[05:13] <speedrunnerG55> its not telling me the avaluable speed
[05:13] <speedrunnerG55> like is it 10 or 100 ms/s
[05:13] <bin_bash> pp7: where would i see that? in nautilus?
[05:14] <speedrunnerG55> and this is a cool app btw
[05:14] <ohsix> McHearty: you'd want to use effectv with vloopback but the one page that has good info on the google is timing out
[05:14] <speedrunnerG55> thnx
[05:14] <pp7> bin_bash: no in the terminal.. run df in the terminal
[05:14] <linux-noob> hello i really like computers and i use ubuntu only and i want to ask here hte easiest way to create (K)ubuntu app is gt /gtk/ mono?? whic is he easiest to create ad maintain GUI??
[05:14] <pp7> bin_bash: or you can just browse to it in nautilus
[05:14] <bin_bash> oh awesome. thanks
[05:14] <pp7> bin_bash: and just copy the location from there
[05:14] <speedrunnerG55> derp?
[05:14] <linux-noob> hello i really like computers and i use ubuntu only and i want to ask here hte easiest way to create (K)ubuntu app is qt /gtk/ mono?? which is the easiest to create ad maintain GUI??
[05:15] <bin_bash> thanks
[05:15] <bin_bash> :)
[05:15] <ohsix> linux-noob: they all have ui builders
[05:15] <bin_bash> pp7: what if i want to put it in a folder in the hadd
[05:15] <bin_bash> hdd*
[05:15] <linux-noob> ohsix, which is the easiest
[05:15] <ohsix> linux-noob: i'd use vala ;] but only because it's new and interesting
[05:15] <ohsix> there is no measure of the ease
[05:15] <pp7> bin_bash: scroll up and read what i said
[05:15] <icedtea> linux-noob: what programming languages do you know or wouldn't mind learning?
[05:15] <ohsix> they all require skilled operators
[05:15] <bin_bash> ok
[05:15] <linux-noob> c++ or C
[05:16] <linux-noob> ohsix, may be python too i like it
[05:16] <icedtea> linux-noob: what do you want to wrint?
[05:16] <icedtea> linux-noob: write?
[05:16] <linux-noob> GUI apps for general use ?
[05:17] <pp7> bin_bash: you dont mean you want to make an image of the harddisk and save it on the same harddisk you are making an image of?
[05:17] <icedtea> linux-noob: it entirely depends on the what your are trying to do, pick the best the tool for the job imho
[05:17] <Logan_> linux-noob: /join #ubuntu-devel
[05:17] <ohsix> just pick one, you won't know whats best for a long time
[05:17] <pp7> bin_bash: i'm sure you can see why that would be silly :P
[05:18] <Logan_> linux-noob: sorry, #ubuntu-app-devel
[05:18] <bin_bash> pp7: no no.
[05:18] <bin_bash> pp7: I want to put ubuntu in a folder on the hdd
[05:18] <bin_bash> the eternal i mean
[05:19] <pp7> bin_bash: on the external.. yea good
[05:19] <McHearty> ohsix: is there a cached version?
[05:20] <ohsix> McHearty: generally the cached version also has a hell of a time loading when the main is timing out, try "effectv vloopback" on google, maybe it loads there
[05:22] <bin_bash> pp7: for the second part of the dd do i do /dev/sdc1 or /media/Elements/Ubuntu
[05:22] <pp7> bin_bash: /media....
[05:22] <bin_bash> pp7:  but the first part is the /dev?
[05:22] <pp7> bin_bash: yea
[05:23] <ruan> is there a plugin for nautilus that adds 'create new > zip file' to the menu?
[05:23] <ruan> or archive at least
[05:23] <ohsix> ruan: if you click on a file you can pick "compress"
[05:23] <ruan> ohsix: thanks
[05:24] <ruan> folder was the case, also worked
[05:24] <bin_bash> pp7: thanks
[05:24] <zee313> how to run "turbo C" compiler in ubuntu. As I am familiar with its environment
[05:25] <h3r0> hi friends
[05:25] <ohsix> zee313: you could run it in dosbox, but you should get familiar with something newer
[05:25] <McHearty> ohsix: I lose so much framerate with virtualizing the webcam output
[05:25] <McHearty> ohsix: drops to like maybe 1fps
[05:25] <Guest70683> i want to ask question... why did when i run commands of "findsmb" in ubuntu it shows me my vmnet ip not my actual host?
[05:25] <slie> you think the admin will be able to find out i used ophcrack for a campus computer?
[05:26] <ohsix> slie: that's a federal offense you know, even if they dont' find out ;]
[05:26] <jiltdil> my mousepad is not working after installation of ubuntu.how to solve this?
[05:26] <slie> ohsix, damn thanks for the heads up
[05:26] <Guest70683> my actual ip is 192.168.0.33 while my vm is 172.16.221.1
[05:27] <slie> ohsix, but you think they will find out will it be a read flag instantly or just if i'm stupid about it do you know/
[05:27] <Haraken> I'm trying to setup a vpn on my ubuntu server using the following guide but I have a question about the bridging part (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN).  My eth0 is an external IP and I only need the ability to have a local network for the VPN that the server can access.  is there something I need to do different from the tutorial to achieve this?
[05:27] <Guest70683> how can i change it to my actual host when i run "findsmb" command?
[05:27] <jiltdil>  my mousepad is not working after installation of ubuntu.how to solve this?
[05:27] <bin_bash> pp7: would it be a good idea to partition my external hdd or is it okay to just put the entire ubuntu hdd into a folder?
[05:28] <Guest70683> please help me friends
[05:28] <ohsix> Guest70683: the manual page says you can pass the subnet broadcast address
[05:28] <benzaldehyde> jiltdil: i had to purge xserver-xorg-input-synaptics to get my touchpad running
[05:28] <Guest70683> what is that mean ohsix?
[05:29] <jiltdil> benzaldehyde:please tell the command
[05:29] <littlestbear> (Guest70683): what I would do is edit host file in /etc/ though donno if that work
[05:29] <zee313> ohsix: I hav installed dosbox , and "Turbo C " is on my desktop. but as I don't know how to use dosbox so can not open Turbo C . I am new in programming and one of my friend gave me a book about C language and I want to practice its different commands on turbo C compiler
[05:29] <benzaldehyde> jiltdil: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[05:30] <Guest70683> littlestbear: i think that wouldn't work?
[05:30] <chobito01> zee313: I would recommend you simply use gcc.
[05:30] <DaPenguin> zee313, there's so many good nix IDEs why would you want to install that?
[05:30] <jiltdil> benzaldehyde : m trying
[05:30] <toluene> hi ! is it possible to list the contents of a package using apt ?
[05:30] <Guest70683> if you use findsmb command what did you see?is it your actual host?
[05:30] <bin_bash> pp7: you still here, bro?
[05:30] <ohsix> DaPenguin: not to mention not needing one at all
[05:31] <DaPenguin> ohsix, of course not, my first c app was written in nano lol
[05:31] <benzaldehyde> jiltdil: you will probably want to stop and start gdm after that. sudo service gdm stop
[05:31] <jiltdil> benzaldehyde:ok thanx i m trying
[05:32] <Mito_> hi
[05:32] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: agh what are you telling people
[05:32] <Mito_> what are the package to have a official theme of ubuntu 10.10?
[05:32] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: only what i went through personally
[05:33] <DaPenguin> that's one thing about buntu i'm still having to get used to. used to handling services from init.d lol
[05:33] <zee313> DaPenguin: Actually the book given by my friend is using that compiler and I as a novice in programming feel it easy to use Turbo C
[05:34] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: if it does not work all one has to do is install the package and it is like it never happened, worth a try right? i like the spaghetti thrown at the wall approach, see what sticks
[05:34] <din> DaPenguin: before you know it chkconfig will be included. ;)
[05:34] <DaPenguin> zee313, the C language doesn't really change between compilers. plus you learn a lot more about the compiling process if you do it from the command line
[05:36] <pp7> bin_bash: yea
[05:36] <Guest70683> DaPenguin:im agree with you but i like scite as an editor :)
[05:36] <bin_bash> pp7: would i be better off partitioning the external?
[05:36] <pp7> bin_bash: y?
[05:37] <bin_bash> pp7: i'm putting some OSX stuff on there too
[05:37] <DaPenguin> Guest70683, usually use emacs these days. better syntax highlighting and simpler to swap between buffers
[05:37] <pp7> bin_bash: you got a macbook pro?
[05:37] <littlestbear> (DaPenguin): is emas better than vim?
[05:37] <bin_bash> pp7: yeah
[05:37] <bin_bash> pp7: I'm sending it in to apple to be fixed
[05:37] <pp7> bin_bash: cool, me too
[05:37] <bin_bash> nice
[05:37] <DaPenguin> littlestbear, that's all personal preference
[05:37] <Guest70683> DaPenguin: i don't know yet how to use emacs.. how unfortunate.. i hope i can learn later
[05:38] <littlestbear> (DaPenguin): been using vim for quit a while , i heard emacs more visual
[05:38] <bin_bash> Yeah I need a new logic board probably
[05:38] <bin_bash> I'm hoping i can convince them to just give me a new one
[05:38] <bin_bash> or something
[05:38] <bin_bash> since this is the second time i've had this exact problem
[05:38] <bin_bash> plus i have to reformat anyway
[05:38] <pp7> bin_bash: does suspend work for you 100% of the time?
[05:38] <bin_bash> since i'm having some kind of memory leak
[05:38] <zee313> DaPenguin: If I want to run a "Hello world " program on command line how will I do that?
[05:38] <littlestbear> same here lol
[05:38] <bin_bash> pp7: it doesn't work for me /at all/
[05:38] <rodhash> Hello guys.. How do I stop sshd service in Ubuntu 10.10? It uses upstart and everytime I try to kill or using init, it bring the service up again
[05:38] <littlestbear> (zee313): which one? bash?
[05:38] <pp7> bin_bash: LOL ok
[05:39] <chobito01> zee313: gcc hello.c -o hello
[05:39] <pp7> bin_bash: works for me about 95% of the time
[05:39] <littlestbear> (rodhash): somewhere in init.d/ i think
[05:39] <bin_bash> pp7: it did before, but then something happened and now it doesb't, and my fan is running at 6500 RPMs and it's barely keeping it at 60C
[05:39] <Guest70683> rodhash: would "kill -9 pid" doit
[05:39] <bin_bash> pp7: when it WAS working, I would get swap crashes a lot
[05:39] <pp7> bin_bash: yea ubuntu tends to run hot on a macbook pro
[05:40] <ruan> i sent a file to my phone via bluetooth but its not showing up, is there a java file browser or something?
[05:40] <rodhash> littlestbear: I tried /etc/init.d/ssh stop too... kill -9 as well.. then sshd gets a new PID.. in other words, upstart bring it up again
[05:40] <DaPenguin> zee313, gcc is the compiler, i'd do gcc -g -o hello hello.c
[05:40] <bin_bash> pp7: when i took it to the mac store, and he ran a diagnostic it was running at 6500 RPMs
[05:40] <pp7> bin_bash: generally everything works flawlessly for me
[05:40] <Harkness> Are there any tools available to create a software based stereo mix? I don't have a sound card in my server, but I want to broadcast a shoutcast stream to a mumble/murmur server.
[05:40] <bin_bash> pp7: so should i partition or can i just use folders?
[05:40] <DaPenguin> zee313, or whatever your .c source file is named
[05:40] <pp7> bin_bash: no need to partition as far as i can see
[05:40] <icedtea> littlestbear: try both vim and emacs, I kinda like them both and can't decide which one I like better.
[05:40] <zee313> how can i install gcc compiler on my ubuntu?
[05:41] <bin_bash> pp7: it won't mess up having two OS's on the same partition?
[05:41] <ruan> zee313: if im not mistaken, it comes with ubuntu
[05:41] <pp7> bin_bash: oh wait
[05:41] <bin_bash> zee313: sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:41] <ohsix> build-essential
[05:41] <pp7> bin_bash: didnt realize you were doing that
[05:41] <bin_bash> pp7: yah i have to put some OS X stuff on here
[05:41] <bin_bash> Not the whole OS
[05:41] <bin_bash> Just some files and stuff
[05:41] <DaPenguin> zee313, just remember the -g flag, makes debugging much easier
[05:41] <pp7> bin_bash: yea probably better to partition it then
[05:42] <bin_bash> pp7: what's the best way to do that?
[05:42] <pp7> bin_bash: probably gparted
[05:42] <bin_bash> pp7: that's what i couldn't remember
[05:42] <bin_bash> thanks
[05:42] <pp7> bin_bash: but that as much as i can help on that
[05:43] <cvam> USB Card reader is not detected.What is the solution
[05:44] <rodhash> Any idea how to stop ssh or any service?
[05:44] <benzaldehyde> I have to move my flat panel slash monitor lower on the wall
[05:44] <pp7> rodhash: sudo pkill -9 ssh
[05:44] <cvam> USB Card reader is not detected.What is the solution
[05:45] <DaPenguin> rodhash, iirc sudo service <service name> stop
[05:45] <zee313> I have applied bin_bash commands and it showed me that the newest one is already installed. But as Ubuntu is also new for me and I am unable to find gcc compiler name in Applications
[05:45] <DaPenguin> rodhash, that being the proper ubuntu way anyway
[05:45] <bin_bash> zee313: type gcc in the terminal
[05:45] <chobito01> zee313: What does it say when you type gcc and hit enter in terminal?
[05:46] <DaPenguin> zee313, gcc is not an ide, it's a compiler that is invoked from the command line
[05:46] <benzaldehyde> Logan_: are you a guy
[05:47] <Logan_> lmao
[05:47] <Logan_> yes
[05:47] <benzaldehyde> Logan_: :3
[05:48] <cvam> USB Card reader is not detected.What is the solution
[05:48] <bin_bash> pp7: what partition type should i use?
[05:49] <pp7> bin_bash: does it matter?
[05:49] <benzaldehyde> cvam: have you tried to mount it
[05:49] <bin_bash> pp7: I have no idea. You have a MBP too, which is why I'm asking
[05:49] <benzaldehyde> bin_bash: ext4 does not work on my machine, ext3 does
[05:49] <pp7> bin_bash: what are you storing on it?
[05:50] <ruan> ext4 works here
[05:50] <bin_bash> pp7: i haven't decided if i'm going to do a full backup or a partial. I was thinking I might do a time-machine backuo
[05:50] <benzaldehyde> runge: :)
[05:50] <benzaldehyde> *ruan
[05:50] <pp7> bin_bash: i know nothing about mac (except for the sexy hardware :P)
[05:50] <wetnon> hi people
[05:50] <bin_bash> lol
[05:51] <bin_bash> the hardware IS sexy!
[05:51] <wetnon> i am trying to fix a problem with my dell laptop brightness
[05:51] <wetnon> looking for someone called kamal
[05:51] <wetnon> mostafa who has applied a patch
[05:51] <wetnon> can anyone else help me out with this?
[05:51] <benzaldehyde> !seen kamal
[05:51] <ruan> !find kamal
[05:52] <cvam> How should I mount USB
[05:52] <littlestbear> fdisk -l
[05:52] <bin_bash> pp7: what's the difference between a primary partition and an extended?
[05:52] <benzaldehyde> ubuttu: then what good are you? hehe
[05:52] <littlestbear> (cvam): then mount /dev/s** /mnt/anythinguwant
[05:52] <wetnon> how do i change the brightness stuff on a ubuntu dell laptop
[05:52] <ruan> cvam: sudo fdisk -l to get its name
[05:52] <wetnon> any suggestions friends?
[05:52] <littlestbear> (wetnon): function key + up
[05:53] <wetnon> no mine is at max
[05:53] <ruan> wetnon: also, there's a monitor settings app
[05:53] <pp7> bin_bash:  dunno :P
[05:53] <littlestbear> (wetnon): depends on your model though, mine's E6410
[05:53] <wetnon> i want to reduce it the hotkeys dont work
[05:53] <wetnon> i have a dell 14R
[05:53] <pp7> bin_bash: primary is obviously one you would boot from
[05:53] <Tigger__`> I have remote desktop working between 2 machines with 10.10... However if I reboot the remote machine remotely I can no longer see or login to it from the client... Could anyone help with this please?
[05:53] <linux-noob> what is the default FS in Natty ?? btrfs or EXt4
[05:54] <benzaldehyde> wetnon: i don't know. is there a resolution you can toggle, perhaps a difference of vga or rgb etc might make a diff
[05:54] <wetnon> the monitor settings do not work
[05:54] <ruan> wetnon: monitor settings from ubuntu software center?
[05:54] <cvam> ruan: I've already used but name is not listed
[05:54] <wetnon> i dont follow u ruan
[05:55] <ruan> cvam: does it show up if you type lsusb?
[05:55] <pp7> Tigger__`: can u ping it?
[05:55] <ruan> wetnon: there's an application called 'monitor settings' on ubuntu software center
[05:55] <Tigger__`> pp7, i'll try that now
[05:55] <cvam> yeah it listed a 5 buses
[05:56] <Tigger__`> i'll have to reboot it :D
[05:56] <benzaldehyde> I have army green backdropped on my irssi--sweet looking
[05:56] <benzaldehyde> *irssi terminal
[05:56] <wetnon> hi ruan
[05:56] <bin_bash> pp7: i have no idea what i'm doing
[05:56] <wetnon> got to the ubuntu software center
[05:57] <wetnon> what next?
[05:57] <linux-noob> what is the default FS in Natty ?? btrfs or EXt4
[05:57] <cvam> visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10616900#post10616900 and help me
[05:57] <pp7> bin_bash: what are you trying to achieve?
[05:57] <wetnon> ok installing now
[05:58] <ajsie> why cant i send a body with -d
[05:58] <bin_bash> pp7: I'm trying to partition but idk whether to use ext2 or ext 3 or primary or extended
[05:58] <ajsie> curl -X PUT http://localhost:3000/way/items/sell_items/add_items -d "asd"
[05:58] <rww> linux-noob: 1) don't crosspost between #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1, 2) #ubuntu+1 already told you.
[05:58] <EvanS> hey, I'm having some problems with a few different things in a recently installed Ubuntu, and I'm not sure if they're related to each other or what.
[05:58] <ajsie> anyone knows how to send a body with curl -X PUT?
[05:58] <pp7> bin_bash: are you going to boot osx from that drive?
[05:59] <redent> benzaldehyde: which one?  http://irssi.org/themes - or a custom one?
[05:59] <din> ajsie: isn't -d post data?
[05:59] <bin_bash> pp7: no i'm not planning on booting at all from it. it's just to restore my OS when i reformat
[05:59] <ajsie> din: yeah but PUT should also be able to send data
[05:59] <pp7> bin_bash: just use ext3 then
[06:00] <wetnon> nope the monitor settings do not work
[06:00] <pp7> bin_bash: you shouldnt have to do anything on that drive
[06:00] <benzaldehyde> redent: just a image i found on google images set in profile prefs as a background
[06:00] <redent> ok
[06:00] <benzaldehyde> redent: i'll tinypic it hold on
[06:00] <pp7> bin_bash: you just want to store an image of a drive on it right?
[06:00] <pp7> bin_bash: the filesystem you use doesn't matter for that purpose (as long as you can store files larger than 4gb etc.)
[06:00] <bin_bash> pp7: No I want to backup my entire ubuntu parition so that when i reformat, i can restore it basically
[06:01] <scriptkids> test
[06:01] <din> ajsie: try curl -X PUT -d @yourfile http://your.url
[06:01] <pp7> bin_bash: just do dd like i said before
[06:02] <ajsie> din: dont want to put the data in a file though
[06:02] <ajsie> :(
[06:02] <bin_bash> pp7: so a mirror will basically be everything?
[06:02] <pp7> bin_bash: then when u restore just do dd if=thefile.iso of=/dev/sdawhatever
[06:02] <din> ajsie: try curl -X PUT -d "asd" http://your.url then
[06:02] <pp7> bin_bash: yes
[06:02] <din> maybe it matters what order the switches are in
[06:03] <Rogan11> Hey there, did a stupid thing... I disabled udev and don't have keyboard or mouse now after boot (I know, idiot.) - I'm in livecd now is there a file I can edit to enable it?
[06:03] <ajsie> din: doesnt work
[06:03] <Mediarocker> I'm getting some verbose on startup...
[06:03] <Rogan11> Or possibly just a boot option to enable it?
[06:03] <Mediarocker> 10.10 is working perfect
[06:03] <Mediarocker> but I'm getting "revalidation failed" verbose at startup..
[06:03] <DrkCodeman> is it just me or does linux mint look like ubuntu?
[06:04] <sacarlson> bin_bash: to backup a partition can be done with sudo cp -a /path/from/ /path/to/  just make sure the partition isn't mounted as root when you copy it
[06:04] <pp7> DrkCodeman: its based on Ubuntu so...
[06:04] <zee313> bin_bash: i have created a file its name is test.c and it is on my desktop. When i wrot the command "gcc -g -o test test.c"  then when i pressed Enter button the message appeared in terminal was gcc: test.c: No such file or directory
[06:04] <zee313> gcc: no input files
[06:04] <benzaldehyde> ahaha Google has a chemistry themed logo tonight, sweet
[06:04] <jiltdil> when i used to mount my partition Data  as mount /dev/sda5 /media/Data and restarts the system and then go to terminal and in Data i didnot find anything using ls why as there are many directories in it,also at the starting time of system it says that mounting error on 0 skip or maually recover?
[06:04] <DrkCodeman> i have had bad luck with ubuntu recently i changed our smb server on ubuntu to windows server 2003
[06:05] <Tigger__> pp7: yes I can ping it... I think it needs to be set as a service... it works if I set to automaticly login & reboot but not the default to login with password
[06:05] <DrkCodeman> after 6 months of usage the file system had gone corrupt
[06:05] <littlestbear> (din): does curl follow 302 ?
[06:05] <DrkCodeman> fsck destroyed it even worse
[06:05] <benzaldehyde> apparently it is Robert Bunsen's 200th Birthday, i wonder what he wants for a present this year
[06:05] <littlestbear> (din): like curl http://u.xxw.ca/xxw
[06:05] <Mediarocker> benzaldehyde, It's Robert Bunsen's 200th birthday.
[06:05] <pp7> Tigger__: yep that sounds correct, set it up as a service
[06:05] <Mediarocker> benzaldehyde, beat me to it XD
[06:05] <jiltdil> when i used to mount my partition Data  as mount /dev/sda5 /media/Data and restarts the system and then go to terminal and in Data i didnot find anything using ls why as there are many directories in it,also at the starting time of system it says that mounting error on 0 skip or maually recover?any help
[06:06] <DrkCodeman> mint is based on ubuntu and ubuntu is based on debian lol
[06:06] <DrkCodeman> i wanna be like mike...
[06:06] <Rogan11> Hi, idiot here... I disabled udev, now after boot I have no mouse and keyboard. Is there a way from livecd I can make it run again? Or a way to do it from terminal before boot?
[06:06] <Tigger__> pp7:  how do i set it as a service? I have forgot now :D
[06:06] <benzaldehyde> Rogan11: :3
[06:06]  * Rogan11 dumbfaic
[06:06] <pp7> Tigger__: dunno, google it :)
[06:07] <red2kic> DrkCodeman: Based on? It's more like a Ubuntu knock-off
[06:07] <Tigger__> pp7: lol - ok thanks for your help anyway :)
[06:07] <DrkCodeman> red2kic: which one mint or debian?
[06:07] <din> ajsie: maybe curl -X PUT -d @$(uuencode asf asf) http://your.url ??
[06:07] <bin_bash> pp7: does this look right? http://imgur.com/y4EUH
[06:08] <pp7> Tigger__: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+vnc+service :)
[06:08] <red2kic> DrkCodeman: Mint.
[06:08] <benzaldehyde> i almost forgot i was tinypicing a screenshot
[06:08] <jiltdil> when i go to  /media/Data  via terminal and uses ls there is nothing shown but when igo to Data without terminal just clicking to it all the contents it it are shown?
[06:08] <din> ajsie: just guessing here. i'm not doing that much research on it. my laptop is going to die soon anyway.
[06:08] <Tigger__> pp7: cheers mate, i'll go look
[06:08] <jiltdil> how to solvethis
[06:08] <DrkCodeman> red2kic: not sure which came first ubuntu or mint but i think it was ubuntu but again ubuntu is based from debian
[06:08] <pp7> bin_bash: why do u need 2 partitions?
[06:09] <bin_bash> pp7: ...i thought we just went over this. so i can have osx and ubuntu
[06:09] <cvam> there is a problem in mounting USB
[06:09] <pp7> bin_bash: ah yea lost track LOL
[06:09] <bin_bash> pp7: lol it's okay. i was just like "oh god did i reformat it for nothing?!"
[06:09] <sacarlson> jiltdil: sudo ls -A ?
[06:10] <zhenbeiju55> dd
[06:10] <benzaldehyde> redent: http://oi56.tinypic.com/2iuxf1c.jpg
[06:10] <pp7> bin_bash: wait.. thinking....
[06:11] <Kimmen> i'm not sure how osx works but I tought you would be able to have 4 partitions (1 for linux core/programs, 1 for os x core/programs, 1 for shared swap, 1 for home)
[06:11] <jiltdil> when i go to  /media/Data  via terminal and uses ls there is nothing shown but when igo to Data without terminal just clicking to it all the contents it it are shown
[06:11] <jiltdil> how to solve
[06:11] <Kimmen> that would be nice, that way you would have all your documents etc in either os
[06:11] <pp7> bin_bash: maybe i'm confused, but if u just want to store an image of your harddrive on a separate drive you shouldn't need 2 partitions
[06:12] <sacarlson> jiltdil: did you try sudo ls -A /media/Data  ?
[06:12] <Kimmen> jiltdil: go to /media/Data/ in terminal and do a ls al
[06:12] <jiltdil> sacarlson:no
[06:12] <Kimmen> ls -al*
[06:12] <bin_bash> pp7: yeah but if i'm going to use time machine, it'll end up using the entire drive and will overwrte my linux stuff
[06:12] <redent> benzaldehyde: the old style camouflage, not the new digital stuff.
[06:12] <pp7> bin_bash: ah I didnt see that part of the picture
[06:13] <bin_bash> so it's safer to have two paritions
[06:13] <jiltdil> sacarlson:nothing hapend
[06:13] <bin_bash> that way i don't risk any kind of overwrite
[06:13] <pp7> bin_bash: are you sure osx will be compatible with ext3 though?
[06:13] <bin_bash> that's what i was asking
[06:13] <sacarlson> jiltdil: nothing? didn't ask for a password?  are you a sudo user?
[06:13] <jiltdil> kimmen:it shows permisson
[06:13] <bin_bash> pp7: lemme google one sec
[06:13] <pp7> bin_bash: i'm not sure so you better research it before :P
[06:13] <benzaldehyde> redent: not familiar with the new digital but this is light camo so i can see the text, any darker and i'd give myself a migraine with all the squinting
[06:14] <jiltdil> sacarlson:yes just password and after then nothing shown
[06:14] <bin_bash> pp7: wtf is the difference between ext2 and ext3 anyway?
[06:14] <Kimmen> bin_bash: it provides journaling
[06:14] <sacarlson> jiltdil: are you sure that your nautilus screen is updated with real stuf (the gui you used to see files in) ?    Try update that reload on top to verify it's see's real updated contents
[06:15] <Kimmen> bin_bash: ext3 provides journaling*
[06:15] <jiltdil> sacarlson:before it i used a command sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/Data after this problem arises
[06:15] <cvam> USB card reder is not detected
[06:16] <pp7> bin_bash: what Kimmen said and not much for your purposes
[06:16] <sacarlson> jiltdil: then there must be nothing in your /dev/sda5 partition I assume
[06:16] <bin_bash> pp7: so am i better off using ext2 for both partitions?
[06:16] <benzaldehyde> bin_bash: the selling factor in ext3 over ext2 is that if you have a power failure you won't have a corrupt hard drive after
[06:16] <pp7> bin_bash: if time machine is compatible with it yea
[06:16] <redent> benzaldehyde: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARPAT new military camouflage patterns. scroll down a little.
[06:17] <linuxtech> See http://www.debian.org/security/2011/dsa-2208 Ubuntu 10.04 bind9 users might be interested in running the backport I setup at https://launchpad.net/~cp/+archive/net
[06:17] <jiltdil> sacarlason:there is lots of documents when i simply mouse click to see it is full of my documents
[06:17] <sacarlson> jiltdil: again did you reload the contents in nautilus or try open one of the files you see
[06:17] <bin_bash> pp7: am i better off just going with ext2?
[06:18] <pp7> bin_bash: why is there a question?
[06:18] <jiltdil> sacarlson:yes i am able to open it via mouse click also its content
[06:18] <bin_bash> pp7: i don't really get the difference and google isn't helping
[06:18] <redent> does any remember Sony BMG rootkit Fiasco?
[06:18] <pp7> bin_bash: just use ext3
[06:18] <Camarata> bin_bash, afaik there are no benefits to ext2 vs ext3 so no reason to not upgrade?
[06:18] <mikejf> Hey, I'm having a problem with printing on a Ubuntu 10.04 server with a HP LaserJet 4100. When I try and print an A4 PDF or PS file it works fine, but if I try to print anything else the print job goes through CUPS but nothing coms out of the printer
[06:19] <sacarlson> jiltdil: That sounds imposible to me,  maybe your on a different system with ssh and not know it
[06:19] <Peddy> what encryption style does ubuntu "encrypted LVM" use?
[06:20] <jiltdil> sacarlson: how rto check that some one is connected to my system
[06:20] <mikejf> I suspect the problem is CUPS not correctly converting the file into the PDF/PS which is needed by the printer and is instead just sending the original file straight through which is then ignored by the printer
[06:22] <sacarlson> Peddy: you can choose serveral not sure what is default I use cryptsetup --cipher aes-cbc-essiv:sha256
[06:22] <redent> Peddy: what do you mean style?
[06:23] <pp7> ok i'm off :)
[06:23] <bin_bash> pp7: thanks for your help
[06:23] <bin_bash> :)
[06:23] <pp7> n
[06:23] <pp7> p
[06:24] <sacarlson> jiltdil: you can look at your logs for a history of who has loged in and also sudo netstat -pant might show connections on your ssh port or other
[06:25] <HoboSteaux> anyone know of an authentication module that can sit in front of a port and force authentication before letting the traffic pass?
[06:25] <jiltdil> sacarlson: no there is no one in port 22
[06:25] <jiltdil> sacarlson: also when i restart my system it says error on mount ) S to skip or M to recover
[06:26] <guohongjun> haha
[06:27] <ylmf> 有人吗
[06:27] <cheshire_fox1> Need help with a broadcom wireless driver issue.  Right now I have the Broadcom b43 wireless driver for BCM4312 (with Low-Power aka LP-PHY) installed (via jockey) but the gnome applet for ethernet/wireless shows that my wificard is disabled.  Turning the card off then on does nothing.  I do not have the option of right clicking and selecting 'enable wireless' as thats grayed out.  I use to have the Broadcom STA driver installed bu
[06:28] <ylmf> 哈喽
[06:31] <kdog> I just got Maverick installed on a MacBook Pro and when I rebooted I get only a command line. It looks like it isn't happy with the nvidia driver. I can't boot into another kernel because the grub menu is skipped. framebuffer dependent on video driver? Any ideas?
[06:31] <draven_sol> if i want an encrypted raid and lvm what is the correct order for setup? ie make an lvm of 4 drives, then raid then encrypt or what order should it be in
[06:32] <plouffe> Has anyone here ever tried installing Ubuntu on external HDD? Does it work ok? Is it easy to switch computers?
[06:32] <ohsix> plouffe: yes yes and yes
[06:33] <plouffe> ohsix, ok ;) thanks, may give it a try
[06:36] <histo> plouffe: it will work
[06:36] <histo> plouffe: switching machines would be okay if you use uuid
[06:36] <histo> pretty sure that's default now
[06:37] <plouffe> histo, in fstab just use the uuid option? Ok, thanks
[06:37] <ohsix> plouffe: it's done for you
[06:39] <Rogan11> One last spam ask. _ disabled xfce-settings-helper and check for new hardware drivers from the gui. on restart (obviously) I have no mouse and keyboard input... Is there a way to re-enable these from either terminal before boot, a boot option or editing a file (using the livecd to mount the drive)
[06:39] <winxordie> Anyone have any luck in using dual screens with ubuntu + nvidia? I'm connected to a TV with HDMI and my mouse keeps getting stuck in the TV X screen when I enter separate screen mode.
[06:39] <Mediarocker> Natty Narwhal is BEAUTIFUL!
[06:40] <ohsix> winxordie: because they are seperate screens in separate screen mode :D
[06:40] <cheshire_fox1> Anyone care to help a girl with a broadcom wifi driver issue?
[06:40] <ohsix> i'll help a eunuch
[06:40] <winxordie> ohsix: right, but I can switch with the mouse from my laptop screen to the TV screen but I can't go back. Herein lies the problem.
[06:41] <ohsix> winxordie: try the other edges of the screen
[06:41] <winxordie> ohsix: I have :(
[06:44] <kdog> wow, I got my gui back. I saw failsafe-x in /etc/init.d/ and ran it.
[06:44] <jesuslinux> hello
[06:44] <jesuslinux> :D
[06:45] <Kimmen> winxordie: perhaps X doesn't know the relationship between TV and latptop so it can't jump from TV to laptop
[06:45] <icedtea> jesuslinux: hi there!
[06:45] <icedtea> kdog: its usually pretty slow though
[06:46] <winxordie> Kimmen: that's a possibility I guess
[06:46] <Rogan11> So... How do I add things to run during boot?
[06:46] <kdog> icedtea: I was shittin' bricks for a while there. I spent hours trying to install onto a new SSD only to figure out that my CD was bad.
[06:47] <cheshire_fox1> someway I will get this damn wireless card to work again -_-
[06:47] <icedtea> kdog: ug, that sucks, is this a netbook?
[06:47] <jiltdil> how to mount partiton automatically on each time system restart?
[06:47] <icedtea> jiltdil: edit /etc/fstab
[06:47] <cheshire_fox1> icedtea: you beat me to it
[06:47] <kdog> I didn't have time to d/l another so I created a mini install cd. It worked great, but I was wishing for a fatter pipe.
[06:48] <kdog> icedtea: MacBook Pro. I slipped 8Gb RAM in while I had the case open :-)
[06:48] <venkatesh> hello everyone
[06:49] <jiltdil> icedtea: i have a partiton name Data and when i uses command mount /dev/sda5 /media/Data on every restart then the contents of Data shows to me if i didnot uses this then content is not showing  what under Data is?
[06:49] <venkatesh> can we access I/O devices memory from user space in ARM architecture
[06:50] <ohsix> venkatesh: yes
[06:50] <jiltdil> icetea: how to see the contents of my Data on every restart without using everytime the command mount /dev/sda5 /media/Data
[06:51] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox1: what is the wireless chip you are using? Is it built-in or USB dongle?
[06:51] <cheshire_fox1> built in
[06:51] <ohsix> jiltdil: mark it mounted at boot in fstab; you could leave it out of fstab and nautilus will mount it when you click on it, too
[06:51] <icedtea> jiltdil: there's a file called /etc/fstab that contains all the drives and folders that are mounted on bootup
[06:51] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox1: what is the chipset
[06:51] <cheshire_fox1> let me run lspci real quick to make sure what it is
[06:51] <cheshire_fox1> BCM4312
[06:51] <icedtea> jiltdil: for instance, I have /dev/sda1 that I want mounted automatically on bootup, so I put an entry in /etc/fstab for that
[06:52] <venkatesh> can we access I/O devices memory from user space in ARM architecture
[06:52] <jiltdil> icedtea:ohsix; i dont know to use it as i also read fstab document but it is not very clear tome please help me to mount it?
[06:53] <jiltdil> ohsix:icedtea: as i am new so ...
[06:53] <cheshire_fox1> Paddy_NI: just to let you know, jockey is of no help.  Right now I'm installing everything related to the broadcom STA drivers for my chipset from the repos.  I'm hoping that might work
[06:54] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox1: wait don't hose your system just yet with driver modules
[06:54] <jiltdil> icedtead:ohsix: the output related to sudo blkid of Data is /dev/sda5: LABEL="Data" UUID="0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17" TYPE="ext4"
[06:54] <ohsix> cheshire_fox1: you need to use b43-fwcutter to install the firmware to use the linux drivers
[06:54] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox1: I think I found the solution.. my mums netbook has the same chip
[06:54] <kdog> Just noticed that I'm now showing 3Gb RAM instead of 8. ??? Something to do with the 2.6.35-28 kernel?
[06:54] <ohsix> cheshire_fox1: i use the STA drivers cuz of other problems (ones that seemingly act like heat issues, but ultimately mean dropped connections over time)
[06:54] <icedtea> venkatesh: I believe so
[06:54] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox1: what ohsix said plus you also need firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[06:54] <cheshire_fox1> ohsix: I haven't needed to use that since 9.10.  Normally the STA driver works but for some reason it uninstalled itself
[06:55] <venkatesh> can we access I/O devices memory from user space in ARM architecture
[06:55] <cheshire_fox1> hold on, doing a restart real quick
[06:55] <cheshire_fox1> also
[06:55] <cheshire_fox1> venkatesh: STOP ASKING THAT OVER AND OVER
[06:55] <ohsix> cheshire_fox1: package name probably changed, i've used bcmwl-kernel-source but i've only ran 10.04 and 10.10 on mine
[06:55] <Kimmen> kdog: perhaps you are running the 32-bit version?
[06:55] <icedtea> venkatesh: most likely yes
[06:56] <venkatesh> thanks icedtea :  can u please tell me how
[06:56] <ubuntu> I'm running ubuntu 10.10 off a live cd on amd64 platform.. When I try to start gparted > http://pastebin.com/PP0GicMa
[06:56] <Roniga> !repeat
[06:57] <kdog> Kimmen: how would I tell?
[06:57] <ubuntu> I mean xubuntu
[06:57] <Paddy_NI> kdog: paste the output of "uname -a" here
[06:57] <icedtea> venkatesh: try this page: http://www.scs.ch/~frey/linux/memorymap.html
[06:58] <kdog> Kimmen: Hold on. "this" is a different laptop. let me connect from the MBP
[06:58] <venkatesh> ohsix: my question was accessing iomem
[06:58] <Kimmen> kdog: uname -m tells you which architecture the kernel is compiled for
[06:58] <Paddy_NI> Kimmen: ah handy to know
[06:58] <Kimmen> kdog: should be amd64 for 64-bit support
[06:59] <cheshire_fox> well, that didn't work
[06:59] <kdog> Linux bodhi 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:40:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:59] <jiltdil> ohsix:icedtea:help me please
[06:59] <icedtea> jiltdil: sure, sorry. What type of filesystem are you mountijng?
[07:00] <Kimmen> kdog: that's a 32-bit kernel. 64 bit has x86_64
[07:00] <jiltdil> sudo blkid for Data is /dev/sda5: LABEL="Data" UUID="0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17" TYPE="ext4"
[07:00] <icedtea> jiltdil: where are you mounting it?
[07:01] <venkatesh> icedtea: My question exactly is in x86 we can use LIDS to access io ports and  io mem directly from user space , like that there is anything like that or can we use the same LIDS in ARM also.
[07:01] <jiltdil> icedtea:/media/Data
[07:01] <cheshire_fox> Paddy_NI: Hmm, if I read the log of jockey, it see that the sta driver can not be installed because the wl module doesn't exist on my system
[07:01] <ohsix> cheshire_fox: wl is in bcmwl-kernel-source
[07:01] <ohsix> it should be trying to install it
[07:01] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox: hmm.. I wonder if the dell dkms module might have anything to do with it
[07:02] <kdog> Kimmen: but the package I have installed is linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic which description states "2.6.35 on x86/x86_64
[07:02] <benzaldehyde> so how do i play youtube videos on powerpc, i tried flash but it does not support my architecture. also tried gnash and swfdec plugins but no video, also i got no dvd playback even though i tried restricted extras and a some other junk, vlc etc
[07:02] <jiltdil> icedtea:sudo blkid for Data is /dev/sda5: LABEL="Data" UUID="0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17" TYPE="ext4"
[07:02] <Guest67596> I got little problems like not being able to move around tabs in firefox and other such issues that did not exist under XP, how do I know if the problem is that of ubuntu, or the various programs etc?
[07:02] <cheshire_fox> Paddy_NI: the b43 driver installs fine.  Except for the fact that the network applet for gnome says that my wireless is disabled.
[07:03] <Paddy_NI> benzaldehyde: add the medibuntu repository and install non-free-codecs
[07:03] <Paddy_NI> benzaldehyde: you may also need dvdcss2
[07:03] <venkatesh> ohsix: My question exactly is in x86 we can use LIDS to access io ports and  io mem directly from user space , like that there is anything like that or can we use the same LIDS in ARM also.
[07:03] <icedtea> jiltdil: you would add a line to /etc/fstab as root: UUID=0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17 /media/Data  ext4  defaults  0 0
[07:03] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: theres a script to install them in libdvdread4, dpkg -L libdvdread4 will get you the name of it
[07:03] <benzaldehyde> Guest67596: move around tabs, ctrl+shift
[07:03] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox: did you install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[07:03] <jiltdil> icedtea:ok but why we are using root
[07:03] <Kimmen> kdog: the generic package installs the kernel that is current for your system, i.e. it installs 32.bit for 32-bit systems and 64-bit for 64-bit systems. Some1 correct me if I'm wrong
[07:04] <Guest67596> .
[07:04] <cheshire_fox> Paddy_NI: no, but I'll do so now
[07:04] <pylix> say you've purchased a larger Hardrive; is there a way to move you ubuntu OS to this drive?
[07:04] <cheshire_fox> it's already installed -_-
[07:04] <pylix> your*
[07:04] <jiltdil> icedtea:should i also add root to it or just go through root
[07:04] <cheshire_fox> that... is awesome
[07:04] <Paddy_NI> hmm.. perhaps the module is blacklisted or is just not loaded
[07:04] <Kimmen> kdog: I think you have to re-install with 64-bit. There are ways to switch from 32 to 64 bit but what I've read it's not recommended
[07:05] <Guest67596> benzaldehyde What is suppose to happen when you press ctrl shift?
[07:05] <icedtea> jiltdil: as long as the kernel is compiled with support for that you should be able to access through /dev as well
[07:05] <Kimmen> pylix: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/8225-clone-your-ubuntu-installation-onto-a-new-hard-disk
[07:06] <jiltdil> icedtea: should i also add root to it in /etc/fstab or just go to add  via root
[07:06] <kdog> Kimmen: After I got the base install done I went into the system monitor and saw 8Gb of RAM with only a sliver used. So I know this install has seen it.
[07:06] <icedtea> jiltdil: via root, you won't be able to write the file unless you use sudo or something similiar
[07:06] <jiltdil> icedtea: i have to add whole of it  root: UUID=0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17 /media/Data  ext4  defaults  0 0
[07:06] <cvam> anybody tell me whether 1 gb ram is enough for ubuntu 10.10 for a good performance
[07:06] <Paddy_NI> cvam: yes
[07:07] <kdog> Kimmen: I then used dpkg --set-selections to install the same packages I had on my other laptop. Maybe that's where things went awry.
[07:07] <Kimmen> kdog: strange. Perhaps you have a new kernel image installed that somehow is 32-bit and the previous was 64-bit
[07:07] <ohsix> cvam: i do ok on my netbook with 1g
[07:07] <icedtea> venkatesh: as long as the kernel is compiled with support for that you should be able to access it that way
[07:07] <cvam> Paddy_NI:But when I launch an application it takes time to run
[07:08] <cheshire_fox> Paddy_NI: I'm fully removing all modules/drivers and anything related to bc
[07:08] <Paddy_NI> cvam: not much
[07:08] <kdog> Kimmen: When I lost the gui, I also lost the grub menu on boot. How do I get that back so I can boot into a previous kernel?
[07:08] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox: determination man.. YES
[07:08] <cheshire_fox> Paddy_NI: I not a man ;-)
[07:08] <cheshire_fox> i am*
[07:08] <benzaldehyde> i don't know what i am looking at with dpkg -L libdvdread4
[07:08] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox: lol
[07:08] <Paddy_NI> sorry
[07:09] <Guest67596>  benzaldehyde What is suppose to happen when you press ctrl shift?
[07:09] <ohsix> cheshire_fox: you'll still have the disconnection/"notworking after a while"-ness if you don't use the STA driver D:
[07:09] <Kimmen> kdog: if you hold down shift key when booting you can't access grub?
[07:09] <cheshire_fox> ohsix: I don't even have any working wifi card right now
[07:09] <benzaldehyde> Guest67596: it is the same as alt+tab but instead of switching between windows of different programs ctrl+shift switches between tabs of firefox
[07:09] <ohsix> ya i know
[07:10] <ohsix> just saying
[07:10] <kdog> Kimmen: Didn't know that trick. I'll give it a try. brb.
[07:10] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: i don't know what i am looking at with dpkg -L libdvdread4
[07:10] <cheshire_fox> ohsix: I use to use the STA driver, then suddenly it just stopped working/uninstalled itself
[07:10] <Guest67596>  benzaldehyde I don't want to switch between tabs, I can do that by clicking on them, I want to be able to drag them around and change their order
[07:10] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[07:11]  * cheshire_fox is *tired*
[07:11] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: i still don't know what that is
[07:11] <zeeshan313> is there any "teamviewer" type software for  sharing computer and assisting others?
[07:11] <ohsix> zeeshan313: vino and "desktop sharing"
[07:11] <icedtea> teamviewer runs on linux
[07:11] <Fuchs> zeeshan313: teamviewer has a linux version
[07:11] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: should i just run that?
[07:12] <ohsix> zeeshan313: look in system -> preferences for desktop sharing
[07:12] <kdog> Kimmen: nope. shift didn't get me there :-(
[07:12] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: doing ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[07:12] <plouffe> Say I install Ubuntu on external HDD: is it possible to create an image backup of that HDD, so in case HDD breaks or gets lost, I could copy the image to a new HDD, and continue using it as before.
[07:12] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: but it says not found
[07:12] <Kimmen> kdog: =( if you run "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image"
[07:13] <Abhijit> zeeshan313, why dont you use teeamviewr only?
[07:13] <Kimmen> kdog: do you have another image installed?
[07:13] <kdog> Kimmen: the bootup is different. Usually there is the Ubuntu logo and the four dots below. Now I get text that says "Ubuntu 10.10" and four text-like dots below. Maybe a frame buffer issue?
[07:13] <icedtea> plouffe: I think ubuntu has a package called clone2fs, which can clone a filesystem, kinda like ghost
[07:13] <cheshire_fox> yay, I fixed it!
[07:13] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox: :D
[07:13] <plouffe> icedtea, thx, will look into it
[07:14] <kdog> Kimmen: I have 2.6.35-22 27 and 28 installed
[07:14] <ohsix> kdog: sounds like kms is disabled
[07:14] <icedtea> plouffe: there's also a utility called 'dd' but that will copy the entire contents, even space on your hard drive that is not used
[07:14] <Kimmen> kdog: sounds like more than just framebuffer issue =/
[07:14] <durpa> how do i make a package out of something i compile from source?
[07:15] <kdog> ohsix: OK. Let me look into that.
[07:15] <durpa> so that i can have specific configure options but be able to remove it later through package manager?
[07:15] <Guest67596>  benzaldehyde I don't want to switch between tabs, I can do that by clicking on them, I want to be able to drag them around and change their order
[07:15] <cheshire_fox> Paddy_NI: I have no idea what went wrong and I have no idea how this fixed it, but I ended up hard disabling it then disabling networking all together then re-enabling networking.  Now it works.  I swear, sometimes ubuntu/w gnome is as weird as windows
[07:15] <cheshire_fox> it may have been just a stupid error in gconf
[07:15] <kdog> ohsix: I have dkms installed. Should I reconfigure it? Or is there an easier way to enable it?
[07:16] <Paddy_NI> cheshire_fox: or just the order certain things are initialised in
[07:16] <ohsix> kdog: kms is kernel mode setting, not dkms
[07:16] <Kimmen> kdog: you can try and edit "/etc/default/grub", set "GRUB_DEFAULT=1" then run "sudo update-grub2" and reboot and see if it boots another image
[07:16] <kdog> ohsix: Oh, then I'll need a bit more help :-)
[07:17] <CooKieMonster> what do i need to run most of the popular video and audio format
[07:17] <kdog> Kimmen: OK. I'll try it.
[07:17] <Guest67596> benzaldehyde I don't want to switch between tabs, I can do that by clicking on them, I want to be able to drag them around and change their order.
[07:18] <benzaldehyde> Guest67596: i don't know how to help sorry
[07:18] <Guest67596> K thanks, anyone else able to help?
[07:21] <kdog> Kimmen: I'm back on the other laptop. When I rebooted, some large text went by and now I'm at a text based recovery menu with "resume", "clean", "dpkg", "failsafeX", "grub", or "netroot" options
[07:21] <zeeshan313> Abhijit: "teeamviewr"          this software is where? I am unable to find
[07:22] <Kimmen> kdog: try grub
[07:22] <kdog> Kimmen: just did. It regenerated the grub.cfg and put me back at the menu. I'll try resume now.
[07:22] <kdog> Kimmen: CLI login :-/
[07:22] <hipitihop> I have a Lucid laptop which has  Wifi and cat5, is it possible to set it up as a hotspot where the cat5 port connects to internet router
[07:23] <benzaldehyde> oops i accidentally downgraded libdvd
[07:23] <Kimmen> kdog: when you were back at the grub menu did you see other images than 2.6.35-28 ?
[07:23] <ohsix> hipitihop: yes, as any linux distro can; but ubuntu doesn't have anything that really makes it any easier
[07:23] <CooKieMonster> what do i need to run most of the popular video and audio format
[07:24] <beautifulmind> how can I display only last 10 entries of log file?
[07:24] <icedtea> zeeshan313: google teamviewer
[07:24] <beautifulmind> cat -n 10 <filename>?
[07:24] <soreau> hipitihop: Yes, if your wifi chip is capable of master mode
[07:24] <soreau> hipitihop: Look into hostapd
[07:24] <hipitihop> ohsix, any pointers as to how to set that up ?
[07:24] <hipitihop> soreau, how can I tell ?
[07:24] <kdog> Kimmen: I have yet to see a grub menu. the output I saw was the same as when I did "sudo update-grub2". then it put me back in the recovery screen
[07:25] <Kimmen> ok
[07:26] <Kimmen> kdog: try: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic"
[07:26] <hipitihop> soreau, ohsix, mind if I pm you ?
[07:26] <kdog> Kimmen: OK
[07:26] <soreau> hipitihop: Keep it here in the channel please
[07:27] <soreau> hipitihop: There is a way to query your card capabilities, I'm looking for it now
[07:27] <Kimmen> kdog: that should "re-add" the oldest kernel image
[07:27] <hipitihop> soreau, np, just avoiding noise for others :-)
[07:27] <kdog> Kimmen: right-o, I'm with you.
[07:28]  * kdog should have thought of that earlier :-P
[07:28] <Kimmen> kdog: after that try and reboot and enter grub again
[07:28] <zeeshan313> icedteam : sorry i could not find such software here
[07:29] <icedtea> icedteam! :D
[07:29] <soreau> hipitihop: iw list
[07:29] <hipitihop> soreau, Just to make it clear what I am trying to do. An apartment building I will visit  is providing internet access via wireless/cat5 but the router only supports single login/device .. I would like to setup my laptop so that it logs in over the cat5, and shares the connection to my phone, xbox etc
[07:29] <kdog> Kimmen: the shift key worked this time. I've finally got the grub menu. :-)
[07:29] <benzaldehyde> what am i doing wrong with playing dvd and video, everything i try i get errors, specifically apt-get says not found over and over
[07:29] <Kimmen> kdog: nice, at least 1 step closer
[07:30] <red2kic> hipitihop: You sure you have the router? Not the switch.
[07:30] <icedtea> zeeshan313: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx (click on linux, then download the "deb" file, and run dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:30] <Abhijit> zeeshan313, ait]
[07:30] <Abhijit> zeeshan313, wait
[07:30] <beautifulmind> what's the command to display last ten entries of log file?
[07:30] <icedtea> tail
[07:30] <soreau> hipitihop: Yes, I understand. hostapd is what you want. 'iw list' should show all capabilities for wifi cards installed (provided the driver is nl80211 compliant (most open drivers are))
[07:31] <kdog> Kimmen: OK, I booted into the 22 kernel and got a graphical login. Now my resolution is all wonky and I still only have 2.7Gb ram. grrr.
[07:31] <icedtea> beatifulmind: tail
[07:31] <Abhijit> zeeshan313, http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx
[07:31] <hipitihop> red2kic, I actually haven't seen the box myself, my partner was there last week and described it, something that was hanging n the wall and you could connect one cat5 or cconnect wireless
[07:31] <kdog> Kimmen: I'll try booting into the 27 kernel
[07:31] <Kimmen> kdog: I'm holding my breath
[07:32] <soreau> hipitihop: You want it to show 'AP' in the 'Supported interface modes' list
[07:32] <soreau> hipitihop: If it doesn't, your card may not be capable of master mode
[07:32] <hipitihop> soreau, installed, looking...
[07:33] <kdog> Kimmen: The shift key didn't work. Maybe I shouldn't hold it down during the mac blue screen and wait for the linux boot.
[07:33] <Softdroid> How can I remove all alsa drivers from my computer?
[07:33] <beautifulmind> icedtea: ahh.. that's it
[07:33] <beautifulmind> thanks a million
[07:33] <icedtea> beautifulmind: anytime! :D
[07:33] <beautifulmind> :)
[07:33] <Kimmen> kdog: press and hold shift after POST =)
[07:34] <hipitihop> soreau, Supported interface modes: * IBSS, * managed, * monitor ... guess that's not promising
[07:34] <soreau> hipitihop: what card and driver are you using?
[07:35] <kdog> Kimmen: is there a POST with EFI? :-) I got it this time. trying 27.
[07:36] <kdog> Kimmen: arggh. Resolution is fine but still no 8Gb joy :-/
[07:36] <Kimmen> kdog: I think there's a POST but really short perhaps? You can try and install: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae"
[07:37] <soreau> hipitihop: This page will show more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode
[07:37] <soreau> I have to go
[07:37] <icedtea> kdog: are you running the 64bit distro?
[07:37] <hipitihop> soreau, not sure will have to try and list it I guess, it is built in on an Acer Aspire 5630 but I guess they can have varied cards, using wicd with wext
[07:37] <Kimmen> kdog: that image enables pae (up to 64gb ram on 32 bit systems)
[07:37] <ohsix> hipitihop: ibss is ad-hoc, and networkmanager can do that for you; some things can't connect to ad-hoc connections, but it's handy
[07:37] <Kimmen> I'm not sure where you were at before the madness began =P
[07:38] <kdog> Kimmen: I have the -28 pae but it is in the 'rc' state.
[07:38] <Kimmen> kdog: try to reinstall a stable pae kernel
[07:38] <kdog> icedtea: I'm not sure anymore :-P.
[07:39] <kdog> Kimmen: OK.
[07:40] <Softdroid> Is it possible to uninstall the alsa driver on Ubuntu?
[07:41] <ohsix> Softdroid: you can blacklist them so it isn't loaded; but why would you want to do that?>
[07:41] <kdog> icedtea: is there a 686-64 iso of maverick. when I d/l, the only 64bit I saw was the amd version
[07:41] <ohsix> kdog: amd64 is the arch name, it works on intel and amd
[07:41] <Softdroid> ohsix: It was not installed by the system, I have installed the alsa drivers. I have problem with my sound
[07:42] <kdog> ohsix: well crap. I sure don't want to reinstall now :-/
[07:42] <kdog> ohsix: maybe over the weekend. This install was a PITA!
[07:42] <ohsix> hhuuhuh
[07:42] <ohsix> i don't know if theres a +mac version for amd64
[07:43] <hipitihop> soreau, ok card is .. Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:43] <Softdroid> ohsix: How can I blacklist the alsa drivers?
[07:44] <ohsix> Softdroid: why do you want to
[07:44] <Softdroid> ohsix: I have pulse driver installed in the system too. The blacklist thing was the one you recommended above
[07:45] <Kimmen> correct me if I'm wrong but isn't alsa the main sound system to recognize and enable sound in ubuntu?
[07:45] <Kimmen> pulse is just a sound server?
[07:45] <ohsix> Softdroid: pulseaudio isn't a sound driver, it uses alsa
[07:45] <kdog> Kimmen: ohsix: LOL, get this, it booted into -28-pae and I've got my 8Gb RAM now, but my resolution is wonky again.
[07:45] <jonsaint> hi all. anyone know when the next ubuntu is due for release? i know its april but dont know when april!
[07:45] <hipitihop> soreau, ohsix, so should I contemplate runnning out and grabbing a usb wifi dongle which supports master ?
[07:45] <Softdroid> ohsix: What is the pulseaudio then?
[07:45] <rypervenche> Is it possible to copy all of the folders from my home directory (but none of the files inside) and send them to another computer? I basically want to sync the folders from one computer with another, but have them all empty.
[07:46] <ohsix> hipitihop: sure, slim pickings, i have one as well for that
[07:46] <Kimmen> kdog: try one more reboot, sometimes my system only works normally at the second boot for a new kernel
[07:47] <ohsix> Softdroid: its something that makes audio nice, theres a plugin in alsa that will redirect alsa programs to pulse, but it still ends up making sound with alsa
[07:47] <kdog> Kimmen: I was ahead of you this time. I'll do a third just to be sure.
[07:48] <Softdroid> ohsix: Ok, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info
[07:48] <kdog> Kimmen: nope.
[07:48] <Kimmen> =/
[07:49] <jguzikowski> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu installed either through Wubi or just on a seperate partition from my Windows installation...I want to try out Jolicloud though, is there anyway I can 'install over' the Ubuntu partition?
[07:50] <jonsaint> when is the next version of ubuntu out? i know its april but not sure when april!
[07:50] <hipitihop> ohsix, slim pickings means hard to get, hmm ... I could run out and grab a wireless router but then I have no idea how this other device does it's session login authentication, I know it was via a browser, sounds a bit hit and miss
[07:51] <kdog> Kimmen: I went to the monitors app to adjust and it pointed me to reconfiguring the nvidia and now I'm good. I'll try a reboot just to be sure.
[07:52] <Kimmen> kdog: nice, I hope you don't run in to more problems. Make a backup of everything just in case ;)
[07:52] <hipitihop> jonsaint, try ubuntu+1 channel
[07:52] <jonsaint> hipitihop, cheers, il give it a try
[07:52] <kdog> Kimmen: Alright. It's all working.
[07:53] <Kimmen> kdog: swell =)
[07:53] <kdog> Kimmen: I still miss the cool Ubuntu boot up graphic, but I can live with it until the Narwahl
[07:53] <Kimmen> kdog: that's a problem with plymouth and nvidia drivers, you can try searching the forum for answers, don't remember how to fix =/
[07:54] <kdog> Kimmen: thanks so much for your help!! and ohsix too!!! That's enough for me tonight.
[07:54] <kdog> Kimmen: thanks, I'll look into it tomorrow.
[07:54] <Kimmen> kdog: np, good night
[07:54] <aron__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[07:55] <rcconf> hello
[07:56] <|Seth|> when's the beta being released?
[07:56] <icedtea> the beta can be tried now
[07:56] <|Seth|> anyo- holy crap
[07:56] <|Seth|> lotta people '_'
[07:57] <|Seth|> icedtea where can I get it?
[07:57] <sabgenton> if a single  executable  works in a newer version of ubuntu but not in an older version what is the most likely thing I need to change
[07:57] <rcconf> !ot |Seth|
[07:58] <sabgenton> the kerrnel would be my first guess but anything else?
[07:58] <|Seth|> um okay then
[07:58] <cluxen> bay ;-)
[07:58] <sabgenton> I got the exe of the net did not complie it for the distro
[07:59] <rcconf> I have a problem: after shutdown the computer CPU and chassis fan keep spinning! and I know it's not an hardware problem because I have just shutdown the computer and fans with power button while I was in the BIOS
[07:59] <rcconf> help
[07:59] <sabgenton> how can I find dependences of the exutable I'm trying to run
[07:59] <rww> rcconf: Please send natty questions to #ubuntu+1, not #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:59] <rcconf> rww: ?
[07:59] <rcconf> ok
[07:59] <rcconf> I didnt notice he was asking sttuf abotu natty
[08:01] <sabgenton> bbl
[08:02] <rcconf> rww: can you help with my issue?
[08:02] <rww> rcconf: nope, I'm about to go sleep
[08:02] <rcconf> sweet dreams
[08:03] <rcconf> dream with my problem :)
[08:06] <Jon--> Is there a way to set up a custom shortcut with gnome-do? I want to type a short string and have it go to a specific folder. I know a bit off-topic but it's a simple questions and a popular package.
[08:07] <hkais> hello all
[08:07] <stupidbot> synchronizze ubuntu 10.04 setting ?
[08:07] <hkais> where does ubuntu store the GSM/UMTS connection infos?
[08:07] <stupidbot> how synchronizze ubuntu 10.04 setting ? is that possible using oneconf>
[08:07] <hkais> I switched my system, and all my connection infos of WLANs and GSM and and and are gone. And I cannot find them
[08:09] <that_is_lg> do any using mongodb
[08:09] <cl3tUs> I created a folder called "/home/public".
[08:09] <cl3tUs> How do I grant everyone full rights to that folder?
[08:09] <cl3tUs> by everyone, I mean, full users.  I was told soemthing about chown777, but I'm new to these commands.  I'm still learning.
[08:10] <icedtea> rcconf: Seth said he is having a problem messaging you
[08:10] <tripelb> Hi Ubbies, I would like an equalizer for my sound. Please advise. (Ub10.04, USB speakers)
[08:10] <rcconf> oh hes not registered x)
[08:10] <rcconf> wait
[08:11] <tripelb> Hi Ubbies, I would like an equalizer for my sound. Please advise. (Ub10.04, I lied - sound card OUT)
[08:11] <fairuz> Ubbies... :D
[08:11] <icedtea> cl3tUs: chmod 777 would give the entire world, any account logged onto the system access
[08:13] <hkais> no hints there so find my connection infos of GSM and WLAN?
[08:13] <icedtea> cl3tUs: you could create a group in /etc/group with the users who you want to have access to that folder
[08:13] <cl3tUs> icedtea, basically, i"m putting the .wine directory there so we can share programs installed using wine.  How do I grant the users I have setup full rights to it?
[08:13] <cl3tUs> icedtea, I don't know commands to create groups.  I do GUI if I can...I am very new to Linux in general.
[08:13] <edwinkcw> ls
[08:14] <cl3tUs> I like to read stuff, but, to be honest, I learn best when someone tells me something, and to be honest, I don't go by the books.  Mult-Windows certified here and I don't really use anything from the books.
[08:14] <ohsix> books are for jerks
[08:14] <ohsix> burn em
[08:14] <bp0> what's the ubuntu equivalent of "emerge emul-linux-x86-sdl"?
[08:14] <tripelb> Hi Ubbies, I would like an equalizer for my sound. Please advise. (Ub10.04, I lied - sound card OUT, USB powered)  --> I found this  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/pulseaudio-system-wide-equalizer-now.html but I'm not sure if it's for me. I am using youtube for wound right now. (dont understand PPA, puseaudio) )
[08:15] <ohsix> bp0: its in ia32-libs
[08:15] <tripelb> ohsix books are for readers
[08:15] <rcconf> ohsix: whats up helper
[08:15] <rcconf> can you help with my problem
[08:15] <rcconf> I have a problem: after shutdown the computer CPU and chassis fan keep spinning! and I know it's not an hardware problem because I have just shutdown the computer and fans with power button while I was in the BIOS...
[08:16] <icedtea> cl3tUs: well ok then. go to the "System" menu, then "Administration", then "Users and Groups"
[08:18] <cl3tUs> icedtea, do you also know a place where I can look up how to do this in terminal?  I'd like to be much better, but I'm still learning.  I am reading through a beginner Linux guide, but it doesn't really cover things like this.  IT covers what is already in the system.
[08:19] <icedtea> cl3tUs: you could "man group"
[08:19] <ohsix> cl3tUs: prefixes arne't safe to share D:
[08:19] <rcconf> cl3tUs: what is the name of guide?
[08:20] <icedtea> cl3tUs: its just a very short page on the group file, it determines what users are in what groups
[08:20] <rcconf> ohsix: you mean the username?
[08:20] <Jon--> My gnome-do cannot open folders. Ubuntu 10.04, running default plugins, doesn't seem to do anything? GNOME + nautilus are installed
[08:20] <cl3tUs> ohsix, what od you mean "prefixes aren't safe to share"?
[08:21] <ohsix> cl3tUs: that .wine dir is called a prefix
[08:21] <cl3tUs> ahh.  Okay ohsix
[08:21] <cl3tUs> I'm okay with it.  I trust that I should be safe :)
[08:22] <ohsix> you can trust that leprechauns exist, doesn't mean they do
[08:22] <cl3tUs> I just want to move the wine directory from one user to a public folder, then share it with everyone that's on the computer so I don't have to install multi GB progs for each user.
[08:22] <cl3tUs> ohsix, I concur.
[08:22] <cl3tUs> Many evil people in the world with ill intent.  I am not one of them.
[08:22] <ohsix> you can share directories in a prefix, but there are lots of parts that you can't share
[08:22] <ohsix> doesn't matter if you're evil or not
[08:23] <cl3tUs> I concur.
[08:23] <ohsix> it matters that stuff in the prefix are per user
[08:23] <cl3tUs> I concur.  Per user is my prob.
[08:23] <cl3tUs> If I install Starcraft II on myown name and my brother's, then that's around 8-10 GB for me.  Then another same for him.
[08:24] <ashray> i am unable to install openjdk-6-jre,it says unable to fetch
[08:25] <rcconf> ohsix: are you ignoring me? :)
[08:25] <rcconf> wine prefix :)
[08:25] <cl3tUs> But, now that I'm looking into other programs so we can learn, I want to isntall it once and use it if I can't use it without wine.
[08:26] <Danielcg25> cl3tUs: lolwut
[08:26] <Danielcg25> You can't use it unless your drunk? What?
[08:27] <cl3tUs> Danielcg25, I want to play games and do some windows only programs that rely on Wine in a shared folder for us without needing to install it for each of us.
[08:27] <cl3tUs> Lots of wated space.
[08:27] <cl3tUs> *wasted
[08:27] <ashray> i am unable to install openjdk-6-jre,it says unable to fetch,i tried to update the repo too,but nothing wored
[08:27] <ashray> *wored
[08:27] <ashray> *worked
[08:27] <Danielcg25> cl3tUs: Um..
[08:28] <Danielcg25> I get the feeling wine isn't referring to alcohol?
[08:28] <cl3tUs> Danielcg25, Correct.
[08:28] <llutz_> cl3tUs: there are docs how to install wine in a multi-user env (using /opt in most cases)
[08:28] <Danielcg25> lol
[08:28] <cl3tUs> llutz, Could you please direct me to them?  I would be much grateful.
[08:29] <llutz_> cl3tUs: not off hand, but g...le should be helpfull
[08:29] <cl3tUs> Oh...I need to ogle correctly?
[08:30] <littlebearz1> cl3tUs»: http://u.xxw.ca/winemulti
[08:31] <TheAnnihilus> hey guys, can someone explain to me why there is no admin group on this ubuntu 10.4 image.  It was installed for me on my rackspace cloud server and im a bit confused.
[08:31] <Danielcg25> What is the password for root?
[08:31] <TheAnnihilus> rofl, yeah yeah
[08:31] <Danielcg25> My user password isn't working :/
[08:32] <Danielcg25> (and yes, its my computer, I am the only user)
[08:32] <TheAnnihilus> root password is Danielcd25.  What a strange coincidence.
[08:32] <ohsix> !root | Danielcg25
[08:32] <ohsix> you can change it, but it's not very useful
[08:32] <rcconf> I have a problem: after shutdown the computer CPU and chassis fan keep spinning! and I know it's not an hardware problem because I have just shutdown the computer and fans with power button while I was in the BIOS...
[08:33] <TheAnnihilus> oh, Daniel wasnt talking to me, sry bud ;)
[08:33] <Danielcg25> Agh!!!
[08:34] <Danielcg25> Inception root password WTF!!!
[08:34] <Danielcg25> =P (so how do I su root?
[08:34] <rcconf> !enter Danielcg25
[08:34] <rcconf> !enter | Danielcg25
[08:34] <littlebearz1> nice bot
[08:34] <icedtea> Danielcg25: use "sudo"
[08:35] <littlebearz1> i should makeone someday to help
[08:35] <rcconf> Danielcg25: sudo or sudo -i
[08:35] <rcconf> is enough
[08:35] <Danielcg25> Isn't there any way to su root?
[08:35] <mtlife> sudo -i
[08:35] <rcconf> littlebearz1: you cant for this channel.
[08:35] <ohsix> sudo -s
[08:36] <rcconf> ohsix: isnt it the same of just sudo?
[08:37] <Danielcg25> So there's no way to su root? Why is "su" even a command then??
[08:37] <varun> hi friends,i am trying to play a game using wine,bu when i opened it,wine is saying,u have less than 1mb of size in your hardidsk,check refernce manual,and then the game opens,and after few seconds it strucks,game is need for speed,..any help
[08:37] <llutz_> Danielcg25: because su can be used for other accounts too
[08:37] <ohsix> you can su to root, just figure out the password first
[08:38] <Jordan_U> Danielcg25: You can su to another normal user.
[08:38] <Danielcg25> Ok
[08:38] <rcconf> "su" doesnt work for me
[08:38] <rcconf> :)
[08:38] <cl3tUs> Danielcg25:  TO my knowledge, the default root pw is blank.  try sudo root in terminal and leave it blank.  Then, any command you do within the same terminal session shouldn't need another pw entry.
[08:38] <rcconf> root pw is blank
[08:39] <Jordan_U> !root
[08:39] <Danielcg25> rcconf: Thanks
[08:39] <cl3tUs> if that doesn't work, try sudo -u root
[08:39] <rcconf> Danielcg25: dude, just use sudo command
[08:39] <rcconf> you are a beginner
[08:39] <rcconf> :)
[08:39] <varun> hi friends,i am trying to play a game using wine,bu when i opened it,wine is saying,u have less than 1mb of size in your hardidsk,check refernce manual,and then the game opens,and after few seconds it strucks,game is need for speed,..any help
[08:40] <rcconf> varun: /join #winehq
[08:40] <cl3tUs> I'm a beginner as well.  If it weren't for this room, I wouldn't know 1/2 of what I know, which isn't much, but I haven't had the oppurtunity to use this as much as I'd like to.  Now, I plan on relying on all of you.
[08:40] <TimR> cl3tUs, the 'canon' way of obtaining a root shell is either sudo -s or sudo -i (depending on whether you want to load envvars or not)
[08:40] <rcconf> lol
[08:40] <cl3tUs> Ahh  Thank you TimR.  That's ne wto me :D
[08:41] <hkais> can someone tell me, there so search my connection infos of GSM and WLAN? I switched my computer and did a reinstall. now I try to find the conf-file, there my connections are stored...
[08:41] <inklesspen> hi, I'm having a problem with SD cards not automounting. I've tried with my laptop's built-in cardreader and with a usb cardreader. In both cases, dmesg seems to show that the cards are recognized, and they show up properly in gparted, but they're not mounted. I checked Nautilus's configuration; it's set to auto-mount.
[08:41] <inklesspen> Where should I look next?
[08:41] <cl3tUs> all of you have a good night!
[08:41] <icedtea> varun: or check www.winehq.org and look in the app database for Need for Speed, often users put comments in there on how to get it working
[08:42] <varun> ok
[08:43] <fairuz> Hi, how to know if a executable depends on which library/other program etc
[08:43] <fairuz> ?
[08:43] <llutz_> fairuz: apt-cache depends package           or for libs: ldd <binary-file>
[08:44] <Danielcg25> Where does Airodump store collected data?
[08:44] <llutz_> *for libs*  see on what libs it depends and which are used
[08:45] <fairuz> llutz_: i tried lld and it says not a dynamic executable, [08:45] <llutz_> fairuz: yes
[08:45] <fairuz> cool
[08:45] <fairuz> llutz_: ty
[08:45] <ohsix> Danielcg25: it stores it wherever you put as the -w parameter
[08:45] <Danielcg25> Oh.. I didn't put a -w parameter =P
[08:45] <Danielcg25> Where is the default?
[08:45] <ohsix> there is no default
[08:45] <llutz_> stdout
[08:46] <ohsix> read the man page
[08:46] <Ja23> I just followed a tutorial for installing a newer version of Gnome, but how do I make it the default?
[08:47] <simar> hello
[08:47] <brandonc503> hello
[08:47] <simar>  how to give voice to someone in IRC like '''ChanServ gives voice to simar'''
[08:47] <brandonc503> can i run/boot ubuntu and windows os at same time?
[08:47] <ohsix> simar: that's not a ubuntu question, but /mode #channel +v person, your client might have a shortcut for it
[08:47] <simar> brandonc503, ya sure, why not
[08:47] <hkais> can someone tell me, there so search my connection infos of GSM and WLAN? I switched my computer and did a reinstall. now I try to find the conf-file, there my connections are stored...
[08:48] <llutz_> brandonc503: using virtualization, yes
[08:48] <simar> ohsix, thanks a lot..
[08:48] <simar> brandonc503, you can dual boot ubuntu and windows or install ubuntu in virtula inside windows as well
[08:49] <brandonc503> would it be best to have windows 100% of drive, then run ubuntu from within and install on remaining c space? or put ubuntu on seperate partition?
[08:49] <Mediarocker> I dual booted for a while... till a bad burn ate my partions.
[08:49] <Mediarocker> it wasn't that bad
[08:49] <Mediarocker> it got tiring however.
[08:50] <simar> brandonc503, no, you have to put ubuntu necessarily on a separate partition..
[08:50] <brandonc503> i had installed win on 100% and then put ubuntu on empty space, but then i had to reinstall windows ( for other reasons) and then it would jump into windows on boot and give me no os selection....
[08:50] <simar> brandonc503, if you want to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[08:50] <ubntu> jj
[08:50] <ubntu> هاي
[08:50] <Mediarocker> You need to setup two different partitions. Install windows first, the install linux and leave space for the swapfile and grub.
[08:50] <ubntu> كيفك
[08:51] <FloodBot2> ubntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <ubntu> مرحباا
[08:51] <YankDownUnder> !arabic
[08:51] <brandonc503> what is the swapfile space for?
[08:51] <simar> ohsix, can i pm you ..  i have one more such question to ask..
[08:51] <naali---> brandonc503, its awfull to install win to a system with linux allready
[08:51] <Danielcg25> !Arabic | ubntu
[08:52] <varun> telugu language support
[08:52] <ferengee> i always carry an usb drive with live ubuntu with me to be able to repair dual boot systems
[08:53] <varun> Telugu support
[08:53] <ferengee> i even have a full install on a 500GB usb harddisk
[08:53] <naali---> =)
[08:53] <Danielcg25> Nice :-)
[08:53] <Mediarocker> ferengee, I got lazy and just wiped it off.
[08:53] <gregnotcraig> brandonc503 swap is 'memory on harddisk'
[08:53] <ferengee> :)
[08:54] <Mediarocker> XD
[08:54] <tdn> How do I install Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro? I cannot get it to boot the USB stick with Ubuntu CD on it.
[08:54] <Mediarocker> I got sick of having to repair it whenever it broke.
[08:55] <Mediarocker> tdn, you should be able to install Ubuntu off of your live disk.
[08:55] <Blinkiz> Hi. I would like to index my files in /Documents/ folder to be able to search for keywords inside mainly pdf and OpenOffice files. What program should I use to do this?
[08:55] <naali---> i just have separate machines to win and linux...
[08:55] <Danielcg25> tdn: Error message explaining why it doesn't work?
[08:55] <ferengee> virtualbox is a nice place for windows too
[08:56] <brandonc503> Blinkiz: right click the folder and Properties, Advanced
[08:56] <Danielcg25> ferengee: Garbage can is a nice place for windows xD
[08:57] <naali---> Danielcg25, =)
[08:57] <Blinkiz> brandonc503, Oh.. I do not have a advanced button or page.
[08:57] <brandonc503> if i run ubuntu install from within windows, only gives me option for c: not my second partition of d:.. do i have to do it to c if installing within windows?
[08:57] <naali---> theres a place for both os
[08:57] <mtlife> windows is not that bad, its just commercialized
[08:57] <Jordan_U> tdn: If at all possible use a CD (Mac's BIOS implementations are buggy when it comes to booting from USB).
[08:58] <ferengee> Danielcg25, where I live we have to separate the garbage
[08:58] <Danielcg25> ferengee: Don't even recycle it xD
[08:58] <Jordan_U> brandonc503: Yes. Even if the installer let you do it it would be a bad idea and is currently not at all supported.
[08:58] <Jordan_U> brandonc503: I recommend doing a normal (not within Windows) install.
[08:59] <brandonc503> cant cds give me errors
[08:59] <brandonc503> the desktop and the alternative installs on cd
[08:59] <tdn> Mediarocker, I cannot boot the live-cd.
[08:59] <Jordan_U> brandonc503: Do you have a flash drive you can use?
[09:00] <YankDownUnder> Does anyone believe in cleaning CD/DVD drives anymore?
[09:00] <tdn> Mediarocker, I have put the livecd on a usb drive with unetbootin, but the mac does not boot on it.
[09:00] <tdn> Danielcg25, no errors. Just booting Mac OS X.
[09:00] <ohsix> YankDownUnder: more like throwing them out
[09:00] <Blinkiz> Hi. I would like to index my files in /Documents/ folder to be able to search for keywords inside mainly pdf and OpenOffice files. What program should I use to do this? I have heard about Beagle but it does not exist in the repository any more
[09:00] <Jordan_U> tdn: Apple's BIOS implementation is buggy. This is a known problem.
[09:01] <tdn> Jordan_U, ok, but booting from a normal cdrom should work? I was told that this would not work though.
[09:01] <bs_> how can we run the windows programm  by wine ???process???
[09:01] <Danielcg25> tdn: You have to press a key during boot. I don't have a Mac, so google what that key is ;-)
[09:01] <ohsix> tdn: it boots efi volumes, not x86 legacy volumes
[09:01] <tdn> Jordan_U, this is the brand new mac book pro. Does it require natty to work? Or will maverick work on it?
[09:02] <Danielcg25> tdn: You have to hold a certain key while booting.
[09:03] <Jordan_U> tdn: Maverick should work (though how well individual pieces of hardware are supported I don't know).
[09:03] <cvam> hey anybody knows where totem movie player save the buffered videos from internet
[09:03] <Jordan_U> tdn: Are you trying to install 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[09:03] <ohsix> cvam: it doesn't buffer them on disk
[09:03] <ohsix> cvam: the browser might
[09:04] <ohsix> but you wouldn't be able to just copy the file
[09:04] <cvam> ok then how can I download the videos from internet
[09:04] <rcconf> cvam: which videos?
[09:04] <bs_> ubbuto,how can we run windows programm through wine???what is the process???
[09:04] <cvam> *.mov  files
[09:05] <naali---> just "save as"?
[09:05] <llutz_> bs_: wine <file.exe>
[09:05] <rcconf> cvam: from apple trailers?
[09:05] <tdn> Jordan_U, preferably 64 bit. Is there any reason to use 32 bit when I have a i7 processor?
[09:06] <cvam> rcconf: no from here http://www.rkm.com.au/animations.html
[09:06] <Jordan_U> tdn: This iso should work (when burned to a real CD): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso If you want the torrent link or the alternate or other install CDs look for the '+mac' versions @ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/ .
[09:06] <tdn> Jordan_U, so there is a specific mac iso? I could not find this via ubuntu.com.
[09:06] <ohsix> Jordan_U: i take issue with you calling it buggy, a hammer isn't bread; the hammer isn't buggy if you can't eat it
[09:07] <rcconf> cvam: those are flash videos
[09:07] <Jordan_U> tdn: Only the 64 bit Ubuntu images have EFI support, this ironically *prevents* them from booting properly on macs due to further bugs in Apple's firmware. The +mac is identical to the normal 64 bit image, but with EFI support *removed*.
[09:07] <ohsix> "bugs"
[09:08] <tdn> Jordan_U, ok.
[09:08] <cvam> is there any ways to save those flash files
[09:08] <montezuma> hello, i have a problem with nm-applet. it is running, but no icon is displayed. it is not an issue of a crashed notification area, it looks the same with all themes. how do i fix this? or can I connect to 3g internet without nm-applet?
[09:08] <Jordan_U> ohsix: This is not just different, it's broken. Apple's BIOS implementation cannot boot from USB.
[09:08] <royale1223> I cant find wireless internet connection in network-applet. How do I fix it?
[09:08] <ohsix> Jordan_U: you know that if an apple mac is the only implimentation of an apple mac, how it works is defined by the one vendor
[09:08] <Kimmen> tdn: no reason not to run 64 bit
[09:08] <ohsix> Jordan_U: that's not a bug
[09:08] <tdn> Kimmen, ok.
[09:08] <bp0> how can I install the 32bit nouveau libs on ubuntu amd64?
[09:08] <ohsix> Jordan_U: that's "can't boot from usb", but it can
[09:08] <tdn> Jordan_U, how do I find that mac iso from ubuntu.com download section?
[09:08] <rcconf> royale1223: is the wireless driver working?
[09:09] <Jordan_U> tdn: It's not linked from the normal downloads page.
[09:09] <rcconf> royale1223: openup terminal and type ifconfig -a
[09:09] <tdn> Jordan_U, why not? Shouldnt it be?
[09:09] <rcconf> royale1223: if wlan0 shows up it's good
[09:09] <brandonc503> gregnotcraig: i got a thumb drive yes
[09:09] <ohsix> Jordan_U: it can't boot certain types of volumes, but it's not a "PC", so you can't assume pc-things are going to be literally transferrable as an experience, it's not a bug
[09:09] <brandonc503> or flash drive . what its called
[09:09] <royale1223> rcconf: its actually mobile broadband
[09:10] <llutz_> ohsix: then its not a bug, its broken by design
[09:10] <Jordan_U> tdn: I don't know. It probably should be. If you file a bug report against the Ubuntu website they may add it (especially since they already have mac specific instructions).
[09:10] <rcconf> royale1223: doesnt matter, maybe ubuntu is not even recognizing it
[09:10] <ohsix> llutz_: a hammer isn't broke because it is not bread
[09:10] <rcconf> ..
[09:11] <ohsix> peoples dislike for what is foreign is very apparent with all these "bugs" and "broken by design" talk
[09:11] <royale1223> rcconf: used to recognize it till yesterday..
[09:11] <llutz_> !ot | ohsix please continue there
[09:11] <rcconf> royale1223: have u installed/uninstalled anything
[09:11] <ohsix> !ot | llutz_
[09:11] <Kimmen> interesting article about 32-bit vs 64-bit: http://www.tuxradar.com/node/33
[09:11] <rcconf> !botabuse
[09:12] <ohsix> llutz_: you spoke up with your churlish comment, i was speaking to Jordan_U
[09:12] <llutz_> it's still offtopic
[09:12] <Jordan_U> ohsix: I'm sorry to have contributed to it myself but this discussion has become offtopic.
[09:12] <ohsix> llutz_: so is your comment
[09:12] <royale1223> rcconf: i installed few apps. I think awn caused it.
[09:12] <drizt> Which utilites exist for working with ppa through terminal?
[09:12] <rcconf> royale1223:  i would purge awn :x
[09:12] <rcconf> drizt: to remove there is ppa-purge
[09:12] <Danielcg25> !ubottu
[09:13] <ohsix> Jordan_U: don't call them bugs, it might be a sufficient handwavy thing to do for stuff people don't need to know anyways, but they aren't bugs
[09:13] <rcconf> drizt: and apt-add-repository
[09:13] <rcconf> etc
[09:13] <brandonc503> what does "Set a Persistent file size for storeign changes.. when puting iso on flash drive?
[09:13] <montezuma> can I connect to 3g internet without nm-applet? using command line or anything?
[09:13] <royale1223> rcconf: already purged.
[09:14] <llutz_> montezuma: try wvdial
[09:14] <Jordan_U> ohsix: If you'd like to continue this discussion (to be honest I don't particularly) please do so in PM or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:14] <royale1223> rcconf: then i purged nm and reinstalled it
[09:14] <rcconf> royale1223: I bet your wireless driver got blacklisted im not an expert tho
[09:14] <ohsix> Jordan_U: an acknowledgement is sufficient, i'm not going to go anywhere to get that, and you clearly aren't offering it, so what conversation is there? you keep prodding me to restate things
[09:15] <royale1223> rcconf: okay, thanks
[09:15] <brandonc503> um it says it needs 995 of the 958 mb on drive.. so there is 3 extra.. wth
[09:15] <royale1223> Jordan_U: can u help me with nm buddy..
[09:15] <montezuma> @llutz_: last time i checked wvdial didn't support 3g
[09:15] <Jordan_U> ohsix: I would like to drop the subject. I don't intend to prod you to continue.
[09:16] <llutz_> montezuma: it does here
[09:16] <ohsix> Jordan_U: ok
[09:16] <drizt> How I can get gpg key for specify ppa?
[09:16] <royale1223> rcconf: is there a cli for nm?
[09:17] <rcconf> royale1223: i dont think so
[09:17] <Jordan_U> royale1223: There is, nmcli, but I don't know if it's packaged for Ubuntu 10.10
[09:17] <drizt> of how i can know which key from which ppa?
[09:17] <ohsix> Jordan_U: it is (nmcli)
[09:17] <montezuma> @llutz_: alright thanks, do you have some sort of tutorial or sth.?
[09:17] <royale1223> rcconf: whats the driver for wireless called?
[09:17] <rcconf> royale1223: dunno
[09:17] <rcconf> !wireless
[09:18] <rcconf> read it up :)
[09:19] <tdn> jor	ok
[09:19] <llutz_> montezuma: you'll need the devicename and your apn. i don't know if wvdial works with all 3g-modems, i had a huawei xxx usb-stick and an Option internal 3g-card running with
[09:19] <Danielcg25> royale1223: its called a driver
[09:19] <royale1223> Dancek_: check out nmcli
[09:20] <royale1223> !info nmcli
[09:20] <royale1223> !nmcli
[09:20] <ohsix> llutz_: network-manager works pretty good with 3g modems
[09:21] <ohsix> llutz_: you just need to add the connection type manually
[09:21] <brando> I hope this is a good place to come for the help I need, apologies if not.  Got a couple general linux use questions
[09:21] <ohsix> they're not unlike vpn connections in their need for extra information to make them go
[09:21] <llutz_> ohsix: i refuse to use nm wherever i can. just on this netbook it works fine (3g/wifi/dun)
[09:22] <llutz_> montezuma: sample config like http://bit.ly/icpCsr
[09:22] <ohsix> llutz_: i'm sure thats a rational and well reasoned position to have, network-manager probably slaughtered your family or something as egregious ;]
[09:22] <Guest34593> holaa
[09:22] <ohsix> llutz_: though your personal dislike doesn't take away from the fact that people should use the tools that are there, rather than wholly go for another solution that might be less supported
[09:22] <llutz_> ohsix: kinda, i prefer ifupdown
[09:22] <brando> I'm trying to copy several image files from a remote apache web server to my local drive.  I assume this is possible and pretty easy to do for somebody that knows what they are doing
[09:23] <Guest34593> holaaaaaaaaa
[09:23] <ohsix> theres a canonical way to do most things, and a general user should be told those
[09:23] <Guest34593> xDD
[09:23] <ohsix> ;]
[09:23] <llutz_> ohsix: and yes, ifupdown is still present
[09:23] <ohsix> no pun intended with the word there, i mean the dictionary definition
[09:24] <NET||abuse> hey guys. trying to start setting up my servers with ssh keys, what's the standard approach for setting up a few servers to use the same ssh key, and distribute it only to people who need access.
[09:24] <royale1223> rcconf: what would cause this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/587714/
[09:24] <jiltdil> to view contents under partiton Data as the mount point is /media  i use to go /media/Data but when i want to see what is under Data it doessnot appear but when i use mount /dev/sda5 /media/Data i am able to see this is to done every time  when i starts my system how to make it permanent help me?
[09:24] <Guest16097> hi, is there a way to permanently disable the grub splash screen? the problem I have is it keeps getting reenabled after every kernel update.
[09:24] <brando> I thought it would be something like "cp www.site.com/path/to/images ./pictures"
[09:24] <rcconf> royale1223: dont expect much help for me about drivers stuff
[09:24] <rcconf> not an expert
[09:25] <royale1223> rcconf: whom should I ask?
[09:25] <ohsix> brando: it's wget, but you usually don't get the information to just copy them all, as the web servers disable indices, but you can use shell scripting to get ones that are sequentially numbered or have an imitatable pattern
[09:25] <rcconf> royale1223: ask in the channel
[09:25] <montezuma> llutz_: thanks, i'll try it. g'bye
[09:25] <rcconf> to all
[09:26] <royale1223> Please help, I have this problem with networkman. http://paste.ubuntu.com/587714/
[09:26] <jiltdil> to view contents under partiton Data as the mount point is /media  i use to go /media/Data but when i want to see what is under Data it doessnot appear but when i use mount /dev/sda5 /media/Data i am able to see this is to done every time  when i starts my system how to make it permanent help me?
[09:26] <brando> thanks, i'll read up on wget
[09:28] <brandonc503> k i got my flash drive now what?
[09:29] <llutz_> jiltdil: you want it being mounted when booting? add it to /etc/fstab
[09:30] <jiltdil> llutz_:please tell me i dont know how to do
[09:30] <brando> ohsix: thanks, I'll read up on wget.  I am able to see an index page that lists all the files and the image files I want all start with the same three letters followed by "-1" "-2" etc...
[09:30] <royale1223> Please help me with this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/587714/ I can use nm
[09:30] <llutz_> jiltdil: what filesystem?
[09:30] <jiltdil> llutz_:media
[09:30] <jiltdil> llutz_:filetype ext4
[09:30] <Mass0Car-Work> hi all, i need some help with ubuntu and the grub bootloader. to get a laptop to work I need to disable the grub splash screen however every time I install a new kernel the splash screen comes back. is there anyway to disable it permanently?
[09:31] <brandonc503> i got iso on flash drive with program.. and says "syslinux 4.03 2010-10-22 chs load error - boot error"
[09:31] <llutz_> jiltdil: add a line like: /dev/sda5  /media/Data  ext4  defaults 0 0" to /etc/fstab (sudo nano /etc/fstab)
[09:31] <llutz_> jiltdil: or better use UUID=xxxx             get UUID with "sudo blkid"
[09:31] <rcconf> royale1223: alt+f2
[09:31] <rcconf> royale1223: alt+f2 and type nm-applet
[09:32] <rcconf> royale1223: then sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[09:32] <rcconf> royale1223: then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:32] <rcconf> logout and login
[09:32] <rcconf> try the basic stuff
[09:32] <jiltdil> llutz:/dev/sda5: LABEL="Data" UUID="0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17" TYPE="ext4"
[09:32] <van7hu> hollo,anyone used bochs?
[09:32] <Danielcg25> Don't broadcast your UUID lol!
[09:32] <rcconf> what is bochs
[09:32] <YankDownUnder> pwnd
[09:33] <llutz_> jiltdil: UUID=0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17   /media/Data ext4 defaults 0 0
[09:33] <llutz_> jiltdil: ^^ that line
[09:33] <rcconf> A universally unique identifier (UUID) is an identifier standard used in software construction, standardized by the Open Software Foundation (OSF) as part of the Distributed Computing Environment (DCE).
[09:33] <rcconf> !uuid
[09:33] <kumar_> Hi everyone, how can i retrieve Ubuntu variables in java.
[09:33] <royale1223> rcconf: doing that..
[09:33] <rcconf> Danielcg25: do you care to explain why ppl shoudnt show their UUID
[09:33] <rcconf> =
[09:34] <llutz_> Danielcg25: you don't even know what a UUID is, right?
[09:34] <rcconf> just because it's unique?
[09:34] <titan6930> hi!
[09:34] <jiltdil> Danielcg25: why please tell me what is the bad effect of broadcasting it,please?
[09:34] <rcconf> hi!
[09:34] <royale1223> rcconf: no change
[09:34] <Danielcg25> Universal Unique Identifier
[09:34] <titan6930> holaaaaaaaa
[09:35] <rcconf> Danielcg25: and?
[09:35] <titan6930> d donde son?
[09:35] <llutz_> jiltdil: ignore it
[09:35] <rcconf> !es | titan6930
[09:35] <jiltdil> llutz_:ok
[09:35] <brandonc503> trying to install ubuntu with usb stick, any suggestions?
[09:35] <royale1223> rcconf: network manager is not running
[09:35] <Danielcg25> DONT LET DAVID HASSOLHOFF TOUCH YOUR OSOLATING FAN
[09:35] <titan6930> esto es una mierda
[09:35] <Mass0Car-Work> can anyone help me?
[09:35] <titan6930> malparidos
[09:35] <rcconf> ..
[09:35] <rcconf> ban.
[09:35] <rcconf> !uy | titan6930
[09:36] <rcconf> titan6930: said this is shit and we are abortions
[09:36] <rcconf> abortations?
[09:36] <rcconf> :p
[09:36] <Danielcg25> lolwut
[09:37] <van7hu> lol,bochs-x
[09:37] <royale1223> rcconf: let me try purging and reinstalling nm.
[09:37] <rcconf> royale1223: sudo apt-get purge ..
[09:38] <rcconf> #ubuntu staff dont forget to ban titan6930
[09:38] <brandonc503> k usb in comp on...
[09:38] <Danielcg25> rcconf what'd he do!
[09:38] <brandonc503> boot options reduced to only usb...
[09:38] <Danielcg25> *?
[09:39] <rcconf> Danielcg25: my UUID=rcconf
[09:39] <brandonc503> SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 CHS Load error - Boot error
[09:39] <brandonc503> thats the what i get
[09:39] <Danielcg25> rcconf: I am going to have my way with your osolating fan.
[09:40] <Mass0Car-Work> hi all, i need some help with ubuntu and the grub bootloader. to get a laptop to work I need to disable the grub splash screen however every time I install a new kernel the splash screen comes back. is there anyway to disable it permanently?
[09:40] <rcconf> osolating?
[09:40] <jorgeasin> hi
[09:40] <rcconf> Mass0Car-Work: use startup manager
[09:40] <rcconf> Mass0Car-Work: or check
[09:40] <rcconf> !grub2
[09:40] <llutz_> Mass0Car-Work: edit /etc/default/grub, remove "splash" and run "sudo update-grub"
[09:40] <rcconf> that way is easier :)
[09:41] <Danielcg25> Moving back and forth
[09:41] <Mass0Car-Work> thanks
[09:41] <jorgeasin> Hi. I would like to know how to script the process System -> Connect to a server -> Windows share
[09:41] <rcconf> !ot | Danielcg25
[09:41] <zefyr> is 11.04 beta1 out yet?
[09:42] <Danielcg25> !ot rcconf
[09:42] <llutz_> !+1
[09:42] <rcconf> Danielcg25: you should read #ubuntu !guidelines
[09:42] <llutz_> zefyr: #ubuntu+1
[09:42] <rcconf> llutz_: !natty works :)
[09:43] <llutz_>  !11.04 too
[09:43] <Zealous> followed a tutorial on creating a new user account with permissions and i change login and i got no permission to do anything........back to the drawing board lol
[09:44] <jorgeasin> Hi. I would like to know how to script the process System -> Connect to a server -> Windows share . I want to make a windows share connection every new session and I want to be asked for the username and password everytime
[09:44] <rcconf> Zealous: what do you want to do?
[09:44] <Danielcg25> hides from rcconf
[09:44] <rcconf> !guidelines > Danielcg25
[09:44] <jiltdil> llutz_:thanks now it is working but i restarted my system again and se something like that error in mounting 0  S to skip check or M to manually recover
[09:45] <madmn> does anyone here know how to setup virtual box properly ?
[09:45] <rcconf> jorgeasin: first you need to know the command to connect to windows share
[09:45] <madmn> i would like to use ubuntu on it
[09:45] <llutz_> jiltdil: check the new /etc/fstab line for typos
[09:45] <cvam> In spreadsheet I have values of angle in degree in A coloumn I want sine values in B column.What should I  write in input line
[09:45] <jorgeasin> that's what i'm asking rconf
[09:45] <jiltdil> llutz_:ok
[09:45] <llutz_> jiltdil:it should read:  UUID=0b8c94cb-6b87-4887-9350-38b448fd7e17   /media/Data ext4 defaults 0 0
[09:45]  * Danielcg25 runs
[09:45] <rcconf> jorgeasin: then you paste it into a file save and right click mask as executable then add it so startup applications
[09:46] <rcconf> someone quiet Danielcg25 tks
[09:46] <jiltdil> llutz_: how to check for typos
[09:46] <llutz_> Danielcg25: do you have anything ubuntu-support-related? if not, please respect the guidelines
[09:47] <rcconf> !samba
[09:47] <llutz_> jiltdil: compare /etc/fstab with the line above
[09:47] <jorgeasin> but what is the command rcconf?
[09:47] <rcconf> check that jorgeasin
[09:47] <llutz_> jorgeasin: mount.cifs ....
[09:47] <jiltdil> llutz_:yes same
[09:48] <llutz_> jiltdil: then you have to check the error-msg carefully. what was it exactly?
[09:48] <madmn> is anyone any good at setting up virtual box with ubuntu
[09:48] <czardoz> madmn, just tell what problem you have :)
[09:49] <jorgeasin> mount.cifs requires a username in the instruction and I want to be asked for the username and password by the ubuntu
[09:49] <jiltdil> llutz_:error on starting computer says that Error to mount 0 S to skip or m to manually recover
[09:49] <madmn> i just need to know how to set it up
[09:49] <llutz_> jiltdil: pastebin your /etc/fstab please
[09:49] <madmn> so i can use ubuntu on it
[09:49] <llutz_> !paste
[09:49] <rcconf> madmn: join #virtualbox
[09:49] <jiltdil> llutz_:ok
[09:49] <madmn> is there like a website that explains on how to set it up right
[09:49] <czardoz> rcconf, I think he wants ubuntu on vbox
[09:50] <jiltdil> llutz_:http://pastebin.com/aGiBgDNd
[09:50] <czardoz> madmn, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
[09:51] <cvam> In spreadsheet I have values of angle in degree in A column  I want sine values in B column.What should I  write in input line
[09:51] <llutz_> jiltdil: is the swap-line really wrapped? it has to be 1 line
[09:51] <llutz_> jiltdil: remove the leading " " space in front of the last line
[09:51] <jiltdil> ok
[09:52] <rcconf> czardoz: so he needs to setup virtualbox which is offtopic and he should ask in #virtualbox
[09:52] <czardoz> hmm
[09:52] <Danielcg25> rcconf: GRANDMOMMA, DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE!!!
[09:52] <jiltdil> llutz_:please pastebin to me as i am not understanding
[09:52] <oladejo> how to rescue initramfs
[09:53] <usami> c'è qualcuno che parla italiano?
[09:53] <rcconf> !it | usami
[09:53] <rcconf> Danielcg25: continue and youll be banned
[09:53] <Danielcg25> rcconf: 
[09:54] <rcconf> !ops
[09:54] <Tm_T> Danielcg25: please try to behave
[09:54] <llutz_> jiltdil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/587724
[09:55] <jiltdil> llutz_:thanx alot
[09:55] <evol> Hello there. I need help to change the symbolic link in my ubuntu 10.10 for firefox (instead of pointing to 3.6 for 4.0)
[09:59] <cvam> In spreadsheet I have values of angle in degree in A column  I want sine values in B column.What should I  write in input line
[09:59] <jorgeasin> Please rcconf if i want to connect to a samba share named "docencia" in the 192.168.1.16 server and be asked for the username and password how would de mount.cifs instruction result??
[10:00] <rcconf> jorgeasin: if I knew I would tell you
[10:00] <eveningsky> cvam: in math they call it inverse sine.  i don't know what your command would be in the spreadsheet
[10:00] <eveningsky> but that should help you google it
[10:00] <jorgeasin> thanks anyway rcconf
[10:00] <llutz_> cvam: opencalc    =sin(radians(cell-with-degree))
[10:01] <cvam> thank llutz_
[10:01] <evol> is undernet dead?
[10:01] <rcconf> jorgeasin: you could also try #ubuntu-beginners or something
[10:02] <dyd> hi all
[10:02] <vietred> hi dyd
[10:02] <jorgeasin> i don't think this is a beginners issue rconf
[10:03] <vietred> where can I find oo.o command key? such as Ctrl + B for bold text, etc
[10:03] <dyd> anyone knows how can i quickly rename some files in a folder with lover case chars? some files have extension in upper case.
[10:03] <dyd> i've googled a bit but the commands i found didn't work
[10:04] <llutz_> dyd rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' path/*
[10:04] <jayant_> how can i copy files into a folder which is placed in / I get a permission denied error
[10:04] <Kimmen> sudo
[10:04] <sunit> I am trying to run slon sql1003_cluster "dbname=healthopenstagingdb" as daemon in ubuntu 9.10 so that it will run in startup. please help me
[10:06] <rcconf> jorgeasin: use sudo cp /file/to/copy /destination/path
[10:06] <rcconf> oops.
[10:06] <rcconf> jayant_ *
[10:07] <jiltdil> llutz_:thanx it worked
[10:08] <brando> ohsix: thanks again!  wget did the trick
[10:08] <cvam> how to make graph in spreadsheet I have x and y values
[10:08] <ohsix> brando: cool
[10:08] <dyd> llutz_: thank you, it worked!
[10:08] <llutz_> cvam: /join #openoffice.org
[10:09] <Zigounette> ubuntu burn my graphic card, it's normal ? Problem with driver ?
[10:09] <rcconf> Zigounette: ubuntu is an Operating System he cant burn your hardware
[10:10] <rcconf> it*
[10:10] <Zigounette> with windows, no problem, but with ubuntu, computer send me WARNING !!! IS TO HOT !!!
[10:10] <rcconf> hm
[10:10] <Zigounette> i think, ubuntu it's not synchronised with hardware.
[10:11] <Zigounette> bad driver ubuntu...
[10:11] <rcconf> with your hardware
[10:11] <jayant_> rcconf: ok..thank you..i will try it..
[10:11] <Zigounette> normaly i run with, microsoft windows, users of ubuntu call me, hey !! install ubuntu it's better...
[10:11] <Zigounette> i install ubuntu, and ubuntu kill my computer...
[10:12] <rcconf> !better
[10:12] <YankDownUnder> Zigounette, Research is always a good thing.
[10:12] <rcconf> Zigounette: if you came here to complain it's not worth it
[10:12] <Zigounette> now, ubuntu go out of internet or me kill ubuntu.
[10:12] <Zigounette> ubuntu try to kill my computer, now i kill ubuntu
[10:13] <rcconf> !ot | Zigounette
[10:13] <rcconf> or join ##windows
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> Gotta love fanatics...
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> Oh wait, WE'RE fanatics...nevermind...
[10:13] <jayant_> rcconf: i get this error.: cp: omitting directory `/home/jayant/asd'
[10:14] <rcconf> jayant_: use cp -R
[10:14]  * Zigounette catch rcconf and shoot with arm foot in nuts of rcconf.
[10:14] <jayant_> rcconf: ok
[10:15] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 10.04 moments ago, I had another partition I am positive I did not delete that was in NTFS format (Ubuntu should be able to read it) but I do not see it in the File systems ? Any suggestions
[10:16] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: did you choose to install side by side?
[10:17] <Zigounette> rcconf ?
[10:17] <rcconf> how did you install it?
[10:17] <Zigounette> i kill you with a spoon !
[10:17] <{C9}t00lsh3d> From a DVD
[10:17] <Zigounette> again, again, again and again !!!
[10:17] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Aside from that what do you mean ?
[10:17] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: I mean in ubuntu install
[10:17] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I chose Choose partitions manually ?
[10:18] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: you did?
[10:18] <rcconf> ..
[10:18] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Yea
[10:18] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: didnt you create another partition for ubuntu?
[10:18] <{C9}t00lsh3d> yes
[10:18] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I already had two partitions prior to my ubuntu install
[10:18] <rcconf> did you delete windows partition by mistake?
[10:18] <rcconf> lol
[10:18] <{C9}t00lsh3d> One was simply file storage, the other was Windows
[10:19] <rcconf> if you didnt touch them they are fine
[10:19] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I am positive I kept the file storage (NTFS format so windows and linux could read it)
[10:19] <{C9}t00lsh3d> and deleted windows
[10:19] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Hmm
[10:19] <trond-> {C9}t00lsh3d, can you see if if you do df in command line?
[10:19] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I don't know the command :P
[10:19] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: sudo fdisk -l
[10:19] <rcconf> in terminal
[10:19] <{C9}t00lsh3d> sec
[10:20] <{C9}t00lsh3d> correct
[10:20] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I do see it
[10:20] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: and Nautilus does not?
[10:20] <{C9}t00lsh3d> /dev/sda3           38245       60802   181184512    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:20] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Correct
[10:20] <rcconf> try to moun it
[10:20] <rcconf> mount
[10:20] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Sorry I don't know the command for that either :P
[10:20] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/
[10:21] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I did that
[10:21] <Kimmen> {C9}t00lsh3d: if you run the command mount it shows you which file systems are mounted where, if your sda3 is mounted it should be there
[10:21] <rcconf> and?
[10:21] <{C9}t00lsh3d> And it did nothing but make a new line and I do not see it in File Systems
[10:21] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: cd /mnt/
[10:21] <{C9}t00lsh3d> /dev/sda3 on /mnt type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[10:21] <{C9}t00lsh3d> okay sec
[10:22] <{C9}t00lsh3d> oh
[10:22] <{C9}t00lsh3d> wow
[10:22] <{C9}t00lsh3d> thanks (:
[10:22] <rcconf> but it's weird is not showing in nautilus
[10:22] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Yea I figured it would ^.^ I'm just glad I still have my files
[10:22] <rcconf> yea lol
[10:23] <Pirsch> Hello. I have a file named 'hplip-3.11.3a.run'. How do I install this?
[10:23] <Kimmen> {C9}t00lsh3d: in nautilus try: ctrl+l and type in /mnt/
[10:23] <rcconf> Pirsch: windows file?
[10:23] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Kimmen that just brought me to the location rcconf already told me to go to (:
[10:24] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I think I'm good now :D
[10:24] <{C9}t00lsh3d> thanks guys
[10:24] <rcconf> and you can see the files right
[10:24] <Pirsch> rcconf: No, I got it from HP's site. It's for the missing/updated PPD for my HP deskjet
[10:24] <Kimmen> Pirsch: "chmod +x hplip-3.11.3a.run && ./hplip-3.11.3a.run"
[10:24] <keyUp> chmod 700 7 for user apache and 00 for others is ok for websites directories?
[10:24] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Yea I got the files
[10:24] <userdel> which is the best desktop calendar available which shown lunar cycles and tides and important weather considerations
[10:24] <rcconf> {C9}t00lsh3d: just save the mount command in case you forget
[10:24] <keyUp> when visitor see my website he open files through apache server
[10:24] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Alright (:
[10:25] <Pirsch> Kimmen: that works. Thanks a bunch
[10:25] <user123456> hello
[10:25] <Kimmen> Pirsch: np
[10:25] <rcconf> keyUp: link?
[10:25] <keyUp> um how you mean
[10:26] <rcconf> keyUp: what is your website
[10:26] <MatBoy> it would be awesome to have a php based manager like webmin, but php... I know there is a php extention to the webmin pl files, but this is old
[10:26] <that_is_lg> who are using mongo
[10:26] <that_is_lg> please help e
[10:26] <keyUp> when visitor A opens mywebsite.com/index.html he execute as others or throught apache user on my server?
[10:26] <keyUp> matboy php is not very good
[10:27] <that_is_lg> who are using mongo
[10:27] <MatBoy> keyUp: php is not good ? it's awesome!
[10:27] <rcconf> keyUp: if it's a website is for other people to visit. what is the problem?
[10:27] <keyUp> MatBoy, it dont work with apache mpm-worker
[10:27] <rcconf> that_is_lg: what is mongo?
[10:27] <llutz_> keyUp: the writeaccess for apache-user (www-data) should be restricted on really needed files/dirs
[10:27] <MatBoy> keyUp: mpm-worker ? why ?
[10:28] <rcconf> too much offtopic
[10:28] <keyUp> llutz ok but when visitor open pages basiclly he executesfiles on my server through 'others' or through apache user on my server?
[10:28] <llutz_> keyUp: reading a file != write-access
[10:28] <user123456> :)
[10:29] <keyUp> no
[10:29] <keyUp> ok
[10:29] <rcconf> lol
[10:29] <keyUp> but visitor use apache user on my server to read file
[10:29] <keyUp> or he reads it as 'others' on my server
[10:29] <keyUp> ?
[10:29] <Kingsy> can someone help me.. I have 4 computers on my network I can browse 3 of them with nautilus... when I try to browse the forth it says "Unable to mount location"   how can it work for 3 but not the forth?
[10:29] <llutz_> keyUp: so why do you set a general rwx for www-data?
[10:29] <rcconf> keyUp: he does not have shell access.. he can do anything
[10:29] <rcconf> cant
[10:30] <keyUp> i really dont understand
[10:30] <keyUp> ok let me put this way
[10:30] <rcconf> keyUp: if you setup a website I visit it but can execute anything in there
[10:30] <eveningsky> do I need to use a live cd to unmount my usr partition?
[10:30] <llutz_> keyUp: /var/www should be 755 root:root or 755 root:www-data  with 775 on single directories where www-data really needs to write
[10:31] <keyUp> visitor A opens www.mywebsite.com/index.html basically what he do he reads file index.html on my server but with what user - apache user (www-data) on my server or the user 'others'?
[10:31] <userdel> which is the best desktop calendar available which shown lunar cycles and tides and important weather considerations
[10:31] <rcconf> keyUp: that doesnt matter
[10:31] <jiltdil> llutz_: i hide apache version number but how to hide the name Apache itself?
[10:31] <Kingsy> is there a log or something I can check to see why its failing?
[10:31] <rcconf> keyUp: because the visitor is not in your system!
[10:31] <llutz_> jiltdil: idk, i don't use apache
[10:31] <keyUp> omg
[10:31] <keyUp> rcconf, you really dont get me do you :))
[10:31] <rcconf> no
[10:32] <rcconf> :P
[10:32] <jiltdil> ok
[10:32] <Kimmen> keyUp: yes everything accessed through your website is accessed as www-data
[10:32] <rcconf> keyUp: i understand what you say.. visitor reads files as other.. cannot change or write
[10:32] <keyUp> if i set file index.html chmod 700 owner is apache user visitor can open index.html?
[10:32] <Kimmen> or?
[10:32] <keyUp> Kimmen THANKS
[10:32] <rcconf> .....
[10:33] <llutz_> keyUp: again:  why do you set a general rwx for www-data?
[10:33] <saju_m> http://dpaste.com/527295/  df command parsing
[10:33] <rcconf> Kimmen: if he sets www-data writable for anyone I can change the files on his apache server?
[10:33] <Kimmen> rcconf: what he meant was: when a user connects to the site, which unix user is used on the local system to access files?
[10:33] <rcconf> im just a visitor
[10:33] <Kimmen> yes
[10:33] <llutz_> keyUp: there is no need for www-data (user/group apache runs at) to be able to write to all files/dirs
[10:34] <rcconf> Kimmen: yes to the question?
[10:34] <Guest302> здесь есть русские?
[10:34] <Kimmen> rcconf: I connect to a site running apache2, the user on the host that fetches files for me to be able to see the site is www-data, correct?
[10:35] <rcconf> !ru | Guest302
[10:35] <rcconf> yes Kimmen
[10:35] <Kimmen> rcconf: that's essentially all he wanted to know as I understood it =)
[10:36] <rcconf> Kimmen: ok but i ask: and he can change permissions of files so anybody can change them from the outside? (i know this is stupid and dangerous)
[10:36] <rcconf> just curious
[10:37] <Kimmen> rcconf: yes, he probably wanted the users to be able to have rw access to something
[10:37] <rcconf> Kimmen: hes crazy
[10:37] <rcconf> :P
[10:38] <Kimmen> rcconf: indeed, but perhaps he's smart and have auth
[10:38] <rcconf> ping timeout
[10:38] <llutz_> doubtfull
[10:39] <royale1223> rcconf: nm problem still not fixed. :(
[10:39] <rcconf> which one?
[10:39] <fairuz> Hi, how to empty trash bin for a mounted USB using command line?
[10:39] <rcconf> fairuz: ls -a inside of it
[10:40] <rcconf> then rm -rf .hiddenfolder
[10:40] <royale1223> rcconf: when i do "nmcli nm" it says nm is disabled
[10:40] <rcconf> royale1223: why you want to use nmcli?
[10:40] <fairuz> rcconf: ty
[10:40] <jnlsnl_> if i press ctrl+alt f5-6 i cant scroll or use page up/down in the terminal :/
[10:41] <royale1223> rcconf: bcoz networking is not working. No internet access
[10:41] <catphish> what does the 'interactive' keyword in kickstart do?
[10:42] <rcconf> royale1223: does "ifconfig -a" show the network interfaces?
[10:42] <r0fs3ck5> Can someone help me with a pulse audio problem?  Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 realtek audio
[10:42] <rcconf> royale1223: and  cat /etc/network/interfaces
[10:42] <rcconf> !ask | r0fs3ck5
[10:42] <royale1223> Rcconf: all exept ppp0
[10:43] <rcconf> which is vpn
[10:43] <rcconf> royale1223: paste the /etc/network/interfaces
[10:43] <r0fs3ck5> my media players are extremely glitchy, how do i fix this?
[10:43] <rcconf> royale1223: sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager start
[10:44] <rcconf> royale1223: sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[10:44] <rcconf> r0fs3ck5: you need to give more details
[10:44] <xeviox> hi, I tried to setup ubuntu on a asus running a Geforce M310
[10:45] <rcconf> xeviox: and..?
[10:45] <xeviox> live cd worked fine
[10:45] <xeviox> but now no grafical screen comes up
[10:45] <xeviox> xorg fails with "no screen found"
[10:45] <Kingsy> can someone help me.. I have 4 computers on my network I can browse 3 of them with nautilus... when I try to browse the forth it says "Unable to mount location"   how can it work for 3 but not the forth?
[10:45] <keyUp> can someone please help me I have problem setting up wired internet
[10:45] <r0fs3ck5> rcconf: when I play an audio or video track, it glitches every few seconds, ubuntu 10.04 amd64, 2.6.32-30 generic
[10:45] <keyUp> now I am throught my neigbour wireless
[10:46] <royale1223> rcconf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/587730/
[10:46] <rcconf> lol
[10:46] <JamesJRH> Hello. How do I stay on the current display when I run a command such as this:
[10:46] <JamesJRH> xinit /usr/bin/awesome -- :1
[10:46] <keyUp> the network pulls ip address netmask and all that but still there is no internet
[10:46] <keyUp> i can't even open modem configuration website
[10:46] <rcconf> royale1223: you dont have eth0 setup.. wait a sec
[10:46] <keyUp> techicians were here now said it s my pc on other pc was ok
[10:46] <keyUp> i can ping my ISP but cant ping outside websites like google.com
[10:47] <rcconf> royale1223: does your router support DHCP?
[10:47] <keyUp> with previous ISP was fine
[10:47] <rcconf> auto eth0
[10:47] <rcconf> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:47] <royale1223> rcconf: nm is not running buddy
[10:47] <keyUp> then I deleted wired connection
[10:47] <keyUp> maybe from then it is like this
[10:47] <royale1223> Rcconf: i'm not using a router. Its a mobile broadband link.
[10:48] <xeviox> rcconf: we also tried to setup the nvidia driver (downloaded from nvidia)
[10:48] <rcconf> royale1223: i dont know what services you are running
[10:48] <rcconf> royale1223: but you need nm-applet
[10:48] <break> hello everyone!
[10:48] <rcconf> network-manager and networking
[10:48] <r0fs3ck5> rcconf: I have tried setting nice on pulseaudio to -11
[10:48] <xeviox> just thought it may be a known problem
[10:48] <royale1223> Rcconf: nm applet is running. But shows no conn.
[10:48] <xeviox> I will come back with more information ..#
[10:49] <rcconf> royale1223: well you need to setup the connection......
[10:49] <saju_m>  suppose we have /dev/sda1 and not mounted, in that case output of "df -khP" showing moutnt point blank, right ?
[10:49] <rcconf> saju_m: if it's not mounted it wont show
[10:50] <royale1223> Rcconf: how to setup?
[10:50] <rcconf> hm forget
[10:50] <Kingsy> can someone help me.. I have 4 computers on my network I can browse 3 of them with nautilus... when I try to browse the forth it says "Unable to mount location"   how can it work for 3 but not the forth?
[10:51] <rcconf> Kingsy: try with Places > connect to server
[10:51] <rcconf> and insert the IP of computer
[10:51] <Kingsy> rcconf: do you select windows share?
[10:51] <rcconf> yes if it's windows
[10:51] <jiltdil> i have Apache2 installed in my system but when i open /etc/passwd the apache doesnot seen to me>
[10:51] <rcconf> royale1223: right click the applet.. edit connections
[10:52] <rcconf> royale1223: then Add
[10:52] <llutz_> jiltdil: getent passwd www-data
[10:52] <rcconf> royale1223: are you trying to use ethernet or wireless?
[10:52] <Kingsy> rcconf: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[10:52] <rcconf> Kingsy: try to ping
[10:52] <rcconf> ping <machine>
[10:53] <royale1223> Rcconf: output of "nmcli nm" http://paste.ubuntu.com/587738/ please check it out
[10:53] <jiltdil> llutz_:yes it seen now but why in /etc/passwd it appeared
[10:53] <royale1223> Rcconf: what do you think?
[10:53] <Kingsy> rcconf: yeah it pings just fine
[10:53] <rcconf> royale1223: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:54] <rcconf> royale1223: if ubuntu has drivers for your wireless it should work.. if not install windows driver with ndiswrapper
[10:54] <Guest27290> does any know how to set console font?
[10:54] <llutz_> jiltdil: its the user/group, the apache-daemon runs as
[10:54] <Guest27290> does any know how to set console background?
[10:54] <jiltdil> llutz_:sorry it is in /etc/passwd but why the name www-data
[10:54] <Guest27290> does any know how to set console background?
[10:54] <Kingsy> rcconf: any other ideas?
[10:54] <rcconf> !repeat | Guest27290
[10:55] <Guest27290> ubottu: ok
[10:55] <rcconf> Guest27290: for gnome terminal?
[10:55] <keyUp> please I have big problem
[10:55] <Fudge> hi guys, anyone know of a howto for copying/pasting between consoles and gnome
[10:55] <brandonc503> so seems that 10.4 and 10.10 have issues with my nvidia drivers for vid card.. what are my options?
[10:55] <Guest27290> for vt
[10:55] <keyUp> I can't setup my wired connection
[10:55] <Guest27290> for vitrual console
[10:55] <llutz_> jiltdil: its just a convention, lighttpd also uses this user/group
[10:55] <royale1223> Rcconf: still nothing
[10:55] <rcconf> brandonc503: depends of your video card..
[10:55] <brandonc503> nvidia gforce mx/mx 400 32 mb
[10:55] <jiltdil> llutz_:thanx
[10:56] <jnlsnl_> okay how do i find and kill a program in the console?
[10:56] <jiltdil> llutz: should i change the shell sh to nologin
[10:56] <Guest27290> jnlsnl_: use kill
[10:57] <keyUp> I can't set up my wired connection, everything seems fine my pc pulls needed addreesses (i think) and still I don't have internet and I can't open the modem configuration page 192.168.100.1, I can ping my ISP but can't ping outside like google.com, technicians were here now we checked there is internet connection on other computer
[10:57] <royale1223> Rcconf: how do i check if nm is running?
[10:57] <rcconf> network manager?
[10:57] <rcconf> royale1223: sudo service network-manager status
[10:57] <llutz_> jiltdil: i'd use /bin/false
[10:57] <royale1223> Rcconf: yep
[10:57] <keyUp> I had previous ISP when I changed ISPs I deleted my wired connection maybe this is problem? I checked there is new one made automatically and everything seems fine..
[10:58] <Adam-85> hi all
[10:58] <rcconf> royale1223: the problem is the wireless itself not the network.. you may need to install its drivers
[10:58] <royale1223> Rcconf: it says stop waiting
[10:58] <jiltdil> llutz_:what is difference between false and nologin
[10:58] <Adam-85> I have problem with audio and can't hear any sound
[10:58] <royale1223> Rcconf: stop/waiting
[10:58] <Kingsy> rcconf: through connect to server it says "Cannot display location "smb://192.168.1.198/""
[10:59] <Kingsy> does anyone know why that would happen for only 1 PC on a network ?
[10:59] <rcconf> Kingsy: check windows firewall in that computer
[10:59] <rcconf> or restart it
[10:59] <llutz_> jiltdil: bin/false is the old way (i'm old and old-fashioned), it just refuses logins, whereas nologin gives a message (iirc)
[10:59] <Kingsy> rcconf: I am able to connect to it from other windows PC's tho... if it was the firewall wouldnt nit block other windows PC's aswell ?
[10:59] <rcconf> royale1223: I have these services networking                  network-interface           network-interface-security  network-manager
[11:00] <Fudge> Guest27290 virtual console yes
[11:00] <rcconf> royale1223: why dont you boot up livecd and try to use the wireless? if ubuntu supports the drivers it will work .
[11:00] <jiltdil> llutz_old is gold :)
[11:00] <royale1223> Rcconf: how do i list all services?
[11:00] <Adam-85> Does anyone can help me to fix my audio ?
[11:01] <royale1223> Rcconf: livecd is working perfectly
[11:01] <rcconf> royale1223: the problem is that you messed up something in your install.
[11:02] <rcconf> royale1223: i just wirte "sudo service " and hit TAB
[11:02] <royale1223> Rcconf: yep. How do find out whats wrong?
[11:02] <rcconf> royale1223: check network section ubuntu help website
[11:03] <Kingsy> rcconf: any ideas?
[11:03] <rcconf> Kingsy: try #samba
[11:03] <royale1223> Rcconf: okay, thanks a lot buddy
[11:03] <rcconf> royale1223: you can also try #ubuntu-beginners
[11:03] <rcconf> or google a lot
[11:04] <rcconf> theres too many people asking and few answering :p
[11:04] <Kingsy> rcconf: yeah, I tried samba there is no-one around.. well do you know if the windows firewall would let other windows pc's through and block linux ?
[11:05] <Kingsy> I am pretty sure its a fault in ubuntu somewhere
[11:05] <rcconf> Kingsy: I think i know what the problem is.
[11:05] <Kingsy> rcconf: what?
[11:05] <rcconf> Kingsy: it's the WORKGROUP
[11:05] <rcconf> Kingsy: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:05] <Kingsy> rcconf: naaa I changed the workgroup in smb.conf
[11:05] <rcconf> hm
[11:05] <Kingsy> I changed it to XSC which is correct
[11:06] <rcconf> dunno then
[11:06] <Kingsy> so now if I go into Places->Network I can see all the computers (cos we are on the same workgroup) hehe and I can browse all of them apart from 1
[11:06] <Kingsy> :S
[11:07] <rcconf> Kingsy: you are trying to access which computer from where?
[11:07] <rcconf> (im a bit tired)
[11:08] <Kingsy> rcconf: there are 4 computers connect to the same workgroup, I can connect to 3 of them but not the forth.. the forth one is using wireless tho if that matters
[11:08] <rcconf> what is the OS of 4th
[11:08] <keyUp> I had previous ISP when I changed ISPs I deleted my wired connection maybe this is problem? I checked there is new one made automatically and everything seems fine..
[11:08] <keyUp> I can't set up my wired connection, everything seems fine my pc pulls needed addreesses (i think) and still I don't have internet and I can't open the modem configuration page 192.168.100.1, I can ping my ISP but can't ping outside like google.com, technicians were here now we checked there is internet connection on other computer
[11:08] <Kingsy> rcconf: windows7
[11:08] <keyUp> I had previous ISP when I changed ISPs I deleted my wired connection maybe this is problem? I checked there is new one made automatically and everything seems fine..
[11:08] <keyUp> pls help me I can't continue to work
[11:08] <Kimmen> Kingsy: there has been problems with win7, samba and a program called live sign in assistant
[11:09] <rcconf> keyUp: right click network manager applet...
[11:09] <rcconf> edit connections
[11:09] <Adam-85> Does anyone can help me to fix my audio ?
[11:09] <keyUp> then>
[11:09] <rcconf> keyUp: then add
[11:09] <Kingsy> Kimmen: can I just apt-get that?
[11:09] <rcconf> Kingsy: does your router support dhcp?
[11:09] <keyUp> rcconf,  everything eems fine man wired connection is made automaticaly and it pulls addresses and everything..
[11:09] <Kingsy> rcconf: yes
[11:09] <rcconf> keyUp: so what is the problem?
[11:09] <rcconf> lol..
[11:10] <Kimmen> Kingsy: if you have live sign in assistant or something like that on your win7 box it could be that program that blocks samba from linux
[11:10] <keyUp> rcconf,  I am not sure here is the deal
[11:10] <rcconf> keyUp: the internet is working. isnt that you want?
[11:10] <camer0ff> hi, just wondering how you use PPA's to install an application
[11:10] <rcconf> !ppa | camer0ff
[11:10] <Kingsy> Kimmen: hmm I will check
[11:10] <keyUp> till 2 days ago i had old ISP and everything was fine then change ISP yesterday and I can have internet, i havent doe anything since then except i deleted wired connection but it is made automatically
[11:10] <rcconf> camer0ff: what is the PPA you want to use?
[11:10] <keyUp> i can ping my isp but cant ping google.com
[11:11] <camer0ff> rcconf; i am trying to update mumble-server, and i was told to use http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/
[11:11] <keyUp> rcconf, i am now from my neighbour wireless internet
[11:11] <rcconf> keyUp: that sounds a DNS problem.
[11:11] <keyUp> strage part is if i plug in wired conection i lose wireless internet too
[11:11] <keyUp> rcconf,  pls  Ineed this seriously I can't work i am stuck :S
[11:11] <rcconf> keyUp: you can ping your ISP ? or you can ping your router?..
[11:11] <keyUp> I am not sure
[11:11] <keyUp> technicians pinged
[11:12] <keyUp> any tip to diagnoze where is the problem pls?
[11:12] <rcconf> keyUp: open a terminal and type: ping 8.8.8.8
[11:12] <keyUp> i am new to linux
[11:12] <keyUp> ok
[11:12] <keyUp> i will and return
[11:12] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:12] <rcconf> it's google's dns
[11:12] <keyUp> as I can have internet if i plug in wired conection.. i will be back
[11:12] <rcconf> k
[11:12] <jake> does anyone know a good theme for ubuntu?
[11:12] <rcconf> !themes
[11:13] <jake> ok thx ubottu
[11:13] <rcconf> lol
[11:13] <jake> hes a bot i no
[11:13] <jake> bye
[11:13] <camer0ff>  rcconf; i am trying to update mumble-server, and i was told to use http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/
[11:14] <Kingsy> Kimmen: ok I have removed windows live sign in assistant and it still doesnt connect.. does the windows machine need a restart or something?
[11:14] <Kimmen> Kingsy: yes, restart the win7 box and try again
[11:15] <Kingsy> Kimmen: ok, I will let you know :)
[11:17] <keyUp> rcconf, man I pinged 8.8.8.8 and look 6 packets transmitted, 4 received, 33% packet loss, time 5010ms
[11:17] <keyUp> it was very hard to establish wired connection i succeded from third try
[11:17] <keyUp> what is wrong ?:S
[11:18] <Kimmen> keyUp: run ifconfig and see if there's any errors/collisions
[11:18] <keyUp> Kimmen, ok i will and i will return
[11:21] <keyUp> this is the pastebin of ifconfig http://pastebin.com/UnbstUPa
[11:21] <keyUp> pls see it
[11:21] <keyUp> Kimmen,
[11:21] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Could someone explain how to install Flash player for google chrome on 64 bit Linux ?
[11:22] <Kimmen> keyUp: replace your ethernet cable
[11:22] <gribouille> hi
[11:22] <keyUp> ok sec I will be back
[11:22] <keyUp> but why
[11:22] <gribouille>  how can I determine whether VT-x/AMD-V hardware virtualization is active ?
[11:22] <keyUp> Kimmen, now thechnicians tried it was ok on their laptop
[11:22] <keyUp> no its not that man for sure
[11:22] <Kimmen> keyUp: the number of errors should be 0, if you have more than 0 errors there's usually a bad cable
[11:22] <keyUp> hm ok i will try
[11:23] <keyUp> wait
[11:23] <keyUp> 16000 erros wow
[11:23] <keyUp> ill be back with response
[11:24] <coz_>  good day all
[11:24] <Kingsy> Kimmen: it works!! STUPID windows live crappy features that no-one wants or needs
[11:25] <Kimmen> Kingsy: ;)
[11:25] <Kimmen> Kingsy: it's a problem with samba in ubuntu, there should be a fix out though in a more recent version
[11:26] <rcconf> Kingsy: it works now?
[11:26] <Kingsy> rcconf: yeah.. stupid windows live sign in assistant
[11:26] <Kingsy> thanks guys
[11:26] <rcconf> lol
[11:26] <Kingsy> i appriciate the help
[11:26] <Kimmen> I have had that same problem with my xbmc box and win7 ;)
[11:26] <Kimmen> np
[11:26] <toktik> #drupal
[11:27] <keyUp> even with other cable I cant connected att all 5 tries..
[11:27] <keyUp> omg what is going on
[11:28] <rcconf> Kingsy: so the problem was an windows application ?
[11:28] <Kingsy> rcconf: yup
[11:28] <rcconf> keyUp: you are trying to connect to your router?
[11:28] <rcconf> to get lan IP and internet
[11:28] <camer0ff> can some one help me on how to use a PPC. I have been given the address http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/
[11:28] <rcconf> camer0ff: i tell you
[11:29] <keyUp> rcconf,  to ISP motorola modem
[11:29] <rcconf> hm it's a modem
[11:29] <rcconf> keyUp: check the manual
[11:29] <Renski> how do I limit which interfaces apache listens on?
[11:29] <keyUp> they didnt gived me manual
[11:29] <rcconf> search on the internetz
[11:30] <keyUp> maybe it is modem drivers
[11:30] <rcconf> yeah
[11:30] <keyUp> that i only thing I can think off
[11:30] <keyUp> however when I plug modem to my wireless router still router dont have internet
[11:30] <rcconf> keyUp: you connect the modem directly to computer right
[11:30] <keyUp> hm
[11:30] <keyUp> rcconf, yes
[11:30] <rcconf> modem!= router
[11:30] <keyUp> lol
[11:30] <rcconf> modem sucks
[11:30] <keyUp> you dont understand me man
[11:30] <rcconf> bit tired
[11:30] <rcconf> sry
[11:31] <keyUp> now yes directly to laptop but when I connect modem to my wireless router router dont get internet from modem too
[11:31] <camer0ff> rcconf; sorry but i cannot find where you told me
[11:31] <keyUp> so what can be the problems
[11:31] <keyUp> but isp technicians said they had internet with my connection on their windows laptop
[11:31] <rcconf> lol they had the drivers for the modem..
[11:32] <keyUp> rcconf, but I see ip address in wired connection
[11:32] <rcconf> keyUp: can yu connect to modem page?
[11:32] <keyUp> it pulls address
[11:32] <keyUp> no
[11:32] <rcconf> keyUp: yes
[11:32] <rcconf> keyUp: ping 8.8.8.8
[11:32] <keyUp> funny part is once i opened it 1/3 yesterday
[11:32] <keyUp> its strange
[11:32] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Does anyone know how to install 64 bit Adobe flash player in Google Chrome ?
[11:32] <keyUp> ping to  8 8 8 8 is about 56 ms
[11:32] <keyUp> with 30% pcket loss
[11:32] <rcconf> keyUp: it's good.
[11:32] <keyUp> so
[11:32] <rcconf> open google.com
[11:32] <keyUp> what is the problem is thi strange or what
[11:32] <keyUp> cant open google
[11:33] <rcconf> keyUp: it's DNS problems.....
[11:33] <keyUp> cnt even open modem page strange
[11:33] <keyUp> how to solve :S
[11:33] <keyUp> look http://pastebin.com/UnbstUPa
[11:33] <rcconf> you need to add a DNS server
[11:33] <keyUp> this is ifconfig
[11:33] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <keyUp> look how many errors why ?
[11:33] <keyUp> look how many errors why ?
[11:34] <rcconf> keyUp: open http://74.125.157.99/
[11:34] <keyUp> rcconf, i will try and return but no man i cant open anything..
[11:34] <CoolCoder> Hi i have a problem while installing ubunto 10.10 on my windows 7 Home PC. after downloading the torrent it says "Permission denied", Please check this image for more details http://tinypic.com/r/2zqy5br/7  any help?
[11:34] <rcconf> try to open the page..
[11:34] <keyUp> sec
[11:34] <rcconf> grr
[11:34] <keyUp> ill be back..
[11:34] <rcconf> modem config fault.
[11:35] <rcconf> or dns
[11:35] <rcconf> ..
[11:35] <eveningsky> I booted a live CD to extend my lvm usr partition. When I log back in it still shows up as the smaller size.
[11:35] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Or Epic fail.
[11:35] <{C9}t00lsh3d> lol
[11:35] <royale1223> Jordan_U: hi
[11:35] <rcconf> he doesnt know whats he doing
[11:35] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I can't manage to install 64 bit flash player for google chrome so I'm kind of failing myself
[11:35] <royale1223> Rcconf: who keyup?
[11:36] <rcconf> i cant even ping his machine ping 89.205.61.229
[11:36] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Along with that I also can't get 32 bit to work
[11:36] <royale1223> Jordan_U: hi
[11:37] <royale1223> Rcconf: did u try google dns?
[11:37] <rcconf> he cant even ping it
[11:37] <royale1223> Rcconf: he cant ping 8.8.8.8?
[11:37] <rcconf> royale1223: im not not the one with the PROBLEM!
[11:38] <royale1223> Rcconf: i know?
[11:38] <rcconf> royale1223: he can with 35 packet loss and it's fine
[11:38] <royale1223> I know buddy
[11:38] <rcconf> but then it didnt open a google page using the IP
[11:38] <rcconf> hes playing with us
[11:38] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Or he's retarded.
[11:38] <royale1223> Rcconf: probably
[11:39] <{C9}t00lsh3d> okay could someone please tell me how to get Flash player to work in 64 bit linux ?
[11:39] <royale1223> Rcconf: i'm getting sick of that nmap problem..
[11:39] <CoolCoder> Hi i have a problem while installing ubuntu 10.10 on my windows 7 Home PC. after downloading the torrent it says "Permission denied", Please check this image for more details http://tinypic.com/r/2zqy5br/7 any help?
[11:39] <royale1223> I mean nm
[11:40] <{C9}t00lsh3d> No one uses 64bit linux ? :/
[11:40] <delinquentme> CLI move is just m right?
[11:40] <LjL> delinquentme: mv
[11:41] <grindcrusher> {C9}t00lsh3d, open synaptic, search for 'flash' and select 'flashplugin-installer'
[11:41] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I did that, re opened Google chrome and flash still not working
[11:41] <delinquentme> so i've got arduino sketches .. they're c files .. and theyre locked down for some stupid reason ( i donno ) how do i enable regular privs on them by default?
[11:42] <keyUp> it iss very hard to connect wired connection and I cant open http://74.125.157.99/
[11:42] <royale1223> Rcconf: are you from texas?
[11:42] <grindcrusher> {C9}t00lsh3d, did you apply it?
[11:42] <keyUp> pls help me I am stuck can't continie to work :( omg this is major problem
[11:42] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Doubt it
[11:43] <{C9}t00lsh3d> lol
[11:43] <keyUp> any tip how to diagnose where is the problem?
[11:43] <Kimmen> 35% packet loss is never "fine" or "OK"
[11:43] <royale1223> Keyup: what exactly is your problem?
[11:43] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Could you tell me how to apply is Grindcrusher ?
[11:43] <grindcrusher> click apply
[11:43] <keyUp> I cant connect to wired connection
[11:43] <{C9}t00lsh3d> oo
[11:43] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Well
[11:43] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I did
[11:43] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I guess.
[11:43] <FloodBot3> {C9}t00lsh3d: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <keyUp> I mean I can (hard) it pulls ip address and everything but I can open any website
[11:44] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Lol oops
[11:44] <keyUp> and I can't even open modem page
[11:44] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Uhm yes I did apply it
[11:44] <grindcrusher> hmm, that's all I got and it work for me
[11:44] <keyUp> pls any help i will be very grateful i am in the midle of work stucked for 2 days this is unpleasing
[11:44] <royale1223> KeyUp: what kind of connection are you using?
[11:44] <Kimmen> keyUp: remove your router and connect PC directly to modem, it works then?
[11:44] <keyUp> i am new to linux
[11:45] <keyUp> from my local cable isp with motorola modem
[11:45] <keyUp> cable lan default con
[11:45] <keyUp> kimmen I am not using router
[11:45] <keyUp> modem is directly in pc
[11:45] <{C9}t00lsh3d> okay flash is working apparently
[11:45] <keyUp> but even router donnt get internet when connected to modem and technicians from ISP were here now they said they had connection o their windows laptop?
[11:46] <keyUp> I can only think of modem drivers problem
[11:46] <keyUp> I could ping 8.8.8.8
[11:46] <royale1223> KeyUp: paste "ifconfig -a"
[11:46] <keyUp> this is strange
[11:46] <Kimmen> keyUp: you don't need any modem drivers, that's bull****
[11:46] <keyUp> royale1223, this is -ifconfig without -a
[11:46] <keyUp> http://pastebin.com/UnbstUPa
[11:46] <Kimmen> keyUp: disconnect everything except you modem and pc
[11:47] <keyUp> i dont had anything just modem and laptop
[11:47] <keyUp> i tried everything i can think of
[11:47] <Kimmen> keyUp: disconnect your wireless connection
[11:47] <keyUp> KImmen i did
[11:48] <keyUp> when wired connection is on i lose internet on wireless conection that now i am using from my neighbour even
[11:48] <Kimmen> keyUp: ping 209.85.149.99
[11:48] <keyUp> royale1223, should I paste -ifconfig -a ?
[11:48] <keyUp> i cant ping anything but i can 8.8.8.8
[11:48] <keyUp> sec i will paste ifconfig -a and try to ping that
[11:48] <keyUp> ill be back..
[11:50] <keyUp> here is the pastebin from ifconfig -a and ping
[11:50] <keyUp> http://pastebin.com/BKnPRnFj
[11:51] <delinquentme> unf-ubu@unf-ubu:~/arduino-0021/sketchbook$ sudo chown unf-ubu -R *  just want to check this one .. this will take all file within my "sketchbook" dir .. and all those dirs contained within it .. and give them to unf-ubu right?
[11:51] <Kimmen> keyUp: either the modem, ethernet cable or network card is faulty
[11:52] <keyUp> Kimmen, 2 days ago everything was fine from different isp operator
[11:52] <keyUp> i had internet
[11:52] <keyUp> when I plug modem to router router dont get internet too ad technicians said they had internet on their win laptop from my conection
[11:52] <stianhj> When I open an image with nautilus, nautilus keeps keyboard focus, so when I go to Ctrl-W the image, it closes nautilus instead.. what's up with that?
[11:52] <Kimmen> keyUp: yes and the Titanic was floating hours before it sank
[11:53] <Kimmen> keyUp: if the techs said they had internet connection and were not lying then your network card is bad
[11:53] <keyUp> i changed cable
[11:53] <keyUp> so cable is good
[11:53] <Kimmen> keyUp: then your nic is bad
[11:53] <keyUp> kimmen then router would get internet..
[11:53] <keyUp> but thats not hppening
[11:54] <keyUp> when i plug modem in router
[11:54] <grindcrusher> power cylce your modem
[11:54] <Kimmen> keyUp: how do you know that the router isn't getting internet?
[11:54] <keyUp> it has light for internet
[11:54] <keyUp> when it has conection light is on
[11:54] <Kimmen> keyUp: and you connect your router (WAN/Internet) to your modem right?
[11:55] <keyUp> also when i conect to my wireless router ii dont have internet
[11:55] <Kimmen> not the other way around
[11:55] <keyUp> yes
[11:55] <Kimmen> keyUp: then try another ehternet port on the modem
[11:55] <keyUp> router has place for internet nd 4 lans
[11:55] <keyUp> how you mean
[11:55] <keyUp> how to do that
[11:56] <Kimmen> how many ports are there on your modem?
[11:56] <keyUp> 1
[11:56] <keyUp> one one place for cable
[11:56] <keyUp> and 1 for usb and one for internet
[11:56] <th0r> Kimmen: most wifi routers are not auto sensing....there is only one port for uplink to the net
[11:56] <keyUp> from their source
[11:56] <keyUp> no wait
[11:56] <keyUp> im talking about modem
[11:56] <Kimmen> th0r: I know, but I was talking about the modem
[11:56] <keyUp> there are 43 ports
[11:56] <keyUp> but no
[11:57] <kz3> how to install a tar.gz file in ubuntu?
[11:57] <keyUp> i can connect to router from my laptop either wireless way or ethernet
[11:57] <Kimmen> keyUp: what is the modem model?
[11:57] <keyUp> so no man my laptop card is ok..
[11:57] <keyUp> cable is ok
[11:57] <keyUp> either is modem drivers
[11:57] <keyUp> or
[11:57] <keyUp> my ISP..
[11:57] <brahle> hello! I have a problem with my monitor resolution. I am on an ASUS G73JH A1, using ubuntu 10.10 x64, with graphics card drivers installed. When the external monitor is plugged in (I am using extend displays), the maximum resolution is correctly set to 1920x1080. However, when I unplug my monitor, the maximum resolution to use is 1400x1050.
[11:57] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <keyUp> motorola
[11:57] <Kimmen> keyUp: _MODEL_ ?
[11:57] <keyUp> sec
[11:58] <keyUp> surfboard
[11:58] <keyUp> i had similar modem from my previous isp
[11:58] <keyUp> i tried with that modem too and I think with that modem too i dont have internet
[11:58] <Kimmen> keyUp: and the exact model? SBxxxx?
[11:59] <keyUp> omg this is so frustrating you have no idea
[11:59] <keyUp> sec
[11:59] <keyUp> 113192168
[11:59] <keyUp> model no.
[11:59] <ohsix> keyUp: are all the lights on on the modem? those modems are bridges
[12:00] <keyUp> yes
[12:00] <keyUp> i get ip address
[12:00] <keyUp> net mask
[12:00] <keyUp> all that
[12:00] <keyUp> even though I cant open modem page
[12:00] <ohsix> they have a status page at http://192.168.100.1/ but if you're not getting an address from your isp you need to add the route manually
[12:00] <Kimmen> keyUp: do this: connect your laptop to your router with a ethernet cable then paste your IP
[12:00] <keyUp> yesterday i opened it 1/3 that is funy part
[12:00] <keyUp> so strange
[12:00] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:01] <keyUp> im getting correct ip
[12:01] <Kimmen> ohsix: he gets a public IP
[12:01] <keyUp> my ISP confirmed i get ip
[12:01] <keyUp> static IP
[12:01] <keyUp> i have static IP
[12:01] <keyUp> fixed
[12:01] <Tm_T> keyUp: please don't use enter as punctuation
[12:01] <Kimmen> keyUp: do you have static IP from your ISP?
[12:01] <nawk> can somone please recommend a good video editor
[12:01] <nawk> I need one quick
[12:01] <ohsix> keyUp: some isps have firmware that firewalls you from snmp/the web status page if some unknown things happen
[12:01] <keyUp> ohsix, that modem page I cant even open
[12:01] <nawk> it's kinda important too
[12:01] <Kimmen> keyUp: or have you set a static IP on your PC?
[12:01] <keyUp> yesterday i opened 1/3 funny
[12:02] <ohsix> right
[12:02] <keyUp> yes
[12:02] <keyUp> Kimmen, yes I have static IP from ISP
[12:02] <keyUp> Kimmen, how to do that
[12:02] <ohsix> keyUp: keyUp paste the output of route -n to a pastebin
[12:02] <ohsix> eh
[12:02] <keyUp> from previous ISP I believe i had static IP and everything was fine
[12:02] <keyUp> i never changed anything
[12:03] <keyUp> except i deleted eth connection
[12:03] <keyUp> but now is made again
[12:03] <ohsix> if you have a static ip with a bridge, you still use dhcp
[12:03] <keyUp> ok
[12:03] <Kimmen> keyUp: do as I said above, connect your PC to your router with the ethernet cable, paste the output of ifconfig on pastebin
[12:03] <keyUp> ill be back t opaste route -n
[12:03] <ohsix> they give you your static though dhcp
[12:03] <keyUp> Kimmen, i did man 2 times
[12:03] <keyUp> http://pastebin.com/BKnPRnFj
[12:03] <keyUp> ifconfig -a
[12:03] <keyUp> that is
[12:03] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <keyUp> and ping to one address
[12:03] <ohsix> keyUp: you're using dhcp right? not static config?
[12:03] <Kimmen> keyUp: is that with your PC connected to your router?
[12:04] <jeetu> how to run script automatically
[12:04] <keyUp> ohsix, i havent changed anything in automatic eth conection when i con to eth it make connectio automatically and yes it is dhcp automatic
[12:04] <keyUp> Kimmen, yes
[12:04] <keyUp> no
[12:04] <ohsix> ok
[12:04] <keyUp> sry no directly to modem no router
[12:04] <SgrA> ifconfig shows dhcp working but ping to google fails on xubuntu.. i use Sterlite SAM300AX router
[12:04] <Kimmen> keyUp: ohsix: 89.205.61.229 is a strange address to get with DHCP from a router at home
[12:05] <keyUp> it is static address
[12:05] <keyUp> im not using router man
[12:05] <ohsix> Kimmen: not from a modem/bridge; cable gives you a direct network connection
[12:05] <ohsix> Kimmen: its like an ethernet port in the noc ;]
[12:05] <Kimmen> yes and what I'm trying to figure out is if he's using static or DHCP on PC
[12:05] <tkubacki> is it possible to create VirtualBox image from live WindowsXp installation ?
[12:05] <Kimmen> yes I know what it is
[12:06] <keyUp> Kimmen, i told isp to give me static ip address
[12:06] <ohsix> he said "auto eth0", which is dhcp, unless he edited the profile
[12:06] <r0fs3ck5> !ppa
[12:06] <keyUp> in my connectionn i have configure dhcp automatic
[12:06] <Kimmen> keyUp: ok, the do as I said above for the 11th time
[12:06] <jeetu> ubottu how to run script automatically
[12:06] <kz3> how to install a tar.gz file in ubuntu?
[12:07] <keyUp> no i let dhcp automatic
[12:07] <Kimmen> I want to know if your other hardware is OK since you hav fn >25k errors in less than 15 min
[12:07] <keyUp> ok
[12:07] <nettezzaumana> hi there
[12:07] <keyUp> what to do ?
[12:07] <nettezzaumana> wtf iz dis: `configure: error: gnome-doc-utils >= 0.3.2 not found`
[12:07] <Kimmen> keyUp: connect your PC to the router with a ethernet cable
[12:07] <keyUp> ok
[12:07] <keyUp> then?
[12:08] <ohsix> to the modem.
[12:08] <eveningsky> lvextend from live cd not being recognized by installed system. What can I do?
[12:08] <Kimmen> keyUp: then paste the output of ifconfig on pastebin and paste link
[12:08] <keyUp> to router or modem?
[12:08] <Kimmen> to router
[12:08] <ohsix> you can figure out the router later
[12:08] <keyUp> ok
[12:08] <keyUp> sec
[12:08] <ohsix> deja vu
[12:08] <beniwtv> nettezzaumana: you are missing the package gnome-doc-utils
[12:08] <Kimmen> ohsix: no, he's going to ping the router to see if he's still getting the 75% packet loss
[12:08] <ohsix> rule out the problem one place at a time, man
[12:08] <ohsix> Kimmen: alright, i missed that part
[12:08] <nettezzaumana> beniwtv: well, it's bit of harder, i'm solaris guy and only living GNOME chan is here :P
[12:09] <jeetu> kimmen how we can support msoffice 2007 in ubuntu
[12:09] <Kimmen> yes
[12:09] <nettezzaumana> beniwtv: would you please try to check with me if i have it outdated or so?
[12:09] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. what am I doing wrong here?
[12:09] <NET||abuse> http://jsfiddle.net/lukeab/6Nt2H/2/
[12:10] <eveningsky> jeetu: winedoors is about the best you're gonna do.
[12:10] <beniwtv> nettezzaumana: did you install it before?
[12:10] <eveningsky> i had a mostly usable version running for a while through that
[12:11] <nettezzaumana> beniwtv: not sure, but i should have full gnome installed
[12:11] <beniwtv> nettezzaumana: hmm... see if you have the command xml2po on your system, it's part of it.
[12:12] <keyUp> http://pastebin.com/mXeZrH6S
[12:12] <eveningsky> jeetu. i didn't really try all of office. I just needed word so I wouldn't have to keep reformatting .docs where I was working
[12:12] <ohsix> winedoors is _not_ a good thing to use :[
[12:12] <Kimmen> keyUp: with your computer connected to the router, ping 192.168.1.1
[12:13] <keyUp> that is ifconfig when laptop conected only to router
[12:13] <eveningsky> ohsix: neither is office, so what's your point?
[12:13] <keyUp> sec
[12:13] <nettezzaumana> beniwtv: no, would you please pastebin for me somewhere content of that package?
[12:13] <ohsix> eveningsky: you didn't mention office in a context where it might be taken as a useful suggestion, now did you?
[12:13] <nettezzaumana> beniwtv: i think `dpkg -L $foo` does it
[12:13] <zicho> does anyone have any experience of running panflute with xmms2?
[12:13] <jeetu> eveingsky how to run script automatically
[12:14] <beniwtv> nettezzaumana: filelist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/gnome-doc-utils/filelist, if you have not installed it you can d/l it from gnome: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-doc-utils/
[12:14] <eveningsky> jeetu. I don't remember the steps real well. That was like a year and a half ago.
[12:14] <keyUp> dejan@dejan-laptop:~$ ping 192.168.1.1
[12:14] <keyUp> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[12:14] <keyUp> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=150 time=0.625 ms
[12:14] <keyUp> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=150 time=0.677 ms
[12:14] <keyUp> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=3 ttl=150 time=0.704 ms
[12:14] <keyUp> ^C
[12:14] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <keyUp> --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
[12:14] <ohsix> eveningsky: you made your bed ;]
[12:14] <nettezzaumana> beniwtv: thanks man ... i'm not very good with solving these DE related things
[12:14] <eveningsky> ohsix: :)
[12:15] <keyUp> http://pastebin.com/egKwDAW9
[12:15] <keyUp> sry
[12:15] <Kimmen> keyUp: the modem seems to be faulty
[12:15] <beniwtv> nettezzaumana: no problem :), dependencies are a pain sometimes
[12:15] <jeetu> keyup how to install script automatically
[12:15] <eveningsky> jeetu. are you sure you really need office?
[12:15] <keyUp> ping to 192.168.1.1
[12:15] <eveningsky> office.or is quite good
[12:15] <jeetu> yeah
[12:15] <eveningsky> openoffice.org
[12:15] <keyUp> Kimmen, are you ure?
[12:15] <keyUp> sure*
[12:15] <ohsix> Kimmen: remember the modem is a bridge, theres a network in the middle
[12:15] <keyUp> maybe its modem driver problem?
[12:16] <Kimmen> ohsix: you only get errors on the layer2 link
[12:16] <keyUp> I have similar modem from my previous ISP i will try with that
[12:16] <Kimmen> ohsix: that is between PC and modem
[12:16] <maxsaniel> como entro na lingua português brasil??
[12:16] <Kimmen> between PC and router the link was fine
[12:16] <keyUp> THANKS for your time big time guys
[12:16] <Kimmen> keyUp: I can suggest one more thing
[12:16] <keyUp> im really stuck here :S
[12:16] <keyUp> ok
[12:16] <keyUp> I will try previous modem too to see if its fine with it
[12:16] <ohsix> what is actually failing, pinging the router?
[12:16] <keyUp> but what you suggest else?
[12:17] <Kimmen> keyUp: try a crossover cable, if you already have a crossover cable try a non-crossover
[12:17] <ohsix> er
[12:17] <ohsix> the modem
[12:17] <keyUp> what is crossover cable? :S
[12:17] <ohsix> i have the same modem and it generally does not like being prodded with pings or anything else
[12:17] <eveningsky> still looking for help with my lvm partition.
[12:18] <nettezzaumana> beniwtv: thanks much again mate !! http://susepaste.org/view/raw/43248364 .. i've found it in csw (some kind of custom community repo)
[12:18] <brown12> I've got a question about the way that Ubuntu has mounted my hard drive. The system is a dual-boot Windows with a shared NTFS drive and separate partitions for the / and /home directories.
[12:18] <maxsaniel> alguem pode me ajudar?
[12:18] <Kimmen> ohsix: but the errors in ifconfig suggests that there's a layer2 problem, a problem on the physical link
[12:18] <beniwtv> nettezzaumana: good :)
[12:18] <ohsix> keyUp: your original problem isn't in my buffer, if you could restate ...
[12:18] <Kimmen> keyUp: crossover cable is one type of ethernet cable
[12:18] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Is there something I can use to test my webcam on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[12:18] <Kimmen> keyUp: it usually says crossover on it
[12:18] <nick_name> maxsaniel: pt?
[12:19] <keyUp> ohsix?
[12:19] <ohsix> Kimmen: i see
[12:19] <maxsaniel> sim
[12:19] <nick_name> fala ingles
[12:19] <brown12> Is there an easy way to change the device name for an internal hard drive from /sda1 to /hda1?
[12:19] <nick_name> !pt
[12:19] <maxsaniel> não
[12:19] <nick_name> maxsaniel: vais de ban
[12:19] <jeetu> keyUp how to run script automatically
[12:19] <maxsaniel> quero um chat em  ptbr
[12:19] <beniwtv> {C9}t00lsh3d: Try camorama or cheese or skype
[12:19] <{C9}t00lsh3d> thanks
[12:19] <nick_name> !br | maxsaniel
[12:19] <ohsix> brown12: yes, but no; the decives are all presented as scsi devices now; and thats what they're named
[12:19] <eveningsky> {C9}t00lsh3d: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[12:20] <ohsix> brown12: you can change it by messing with udev but it's not something you want to do
[12:20] <keyUp> jeetu, ??
[12:20] <dirkG> i'm sorry this is nothing to do with ubuntu (i hope someone can steer me to the correct channel) but i'm having trouble with an 'unmountable' xp drive, and i'm looking at data recovery as my only (last-) resort...  if i can get some help here or steered in the right direction, that'd be amazing
[12:20] <brown12> OK. Sometimes on boot, with an eternal hard drive plugged in, the USB drive steals /sda1 from the hard drive and that messes up all the mount points. Files of the shared NTFS become unavailable.
[12:20] <brown12> Is there a way to specify the priority of the SATA over the USB drive?
[12:20] <brown12> Thanks @ohsix
[12:20] <ohsix> dirkG: ntfs-3g will refuse to mount it if its in a bad enough state for windows needing to fix it
[12:21] <ohsix> brown12: use UUIDs instead of device names
[12:21] <eveningsky> jeetu: are you sure you really need to install office? openoffice.org is quite good.
[12:21] <stemann> Can someone help me with ALSA? I have two installations of 10.04 - one (desktop) with sound, one (mini) without sound. Tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[12:21] <{C9}t00lsh3d> When my system starts up it shows an error but goes away to fast to read is there a log I can find this error in ?
[12:21] <jeetu> yeah but support to msoffice not opnoffice
[12:22] <Kimmen> {C9}t00lsh3d: syslog, dmesg
[12:22] <brown12> Where can I read up on UUIDs? I have configured everything via Ubuntu guis, e.g., disk tool and NTFS configuration tool.
[12:22] <beniwtv> dirkG:  I have heard good things about Redo: http://redobackup.org/. maybe it can mount it?
[12:22] <maxsaniel>   /join #ubuntu-br
[12:22] <maxsaniel>   /join #ubuntu-pt
[12:22] <eveningsky> jeetu: what do you need that openoffice doesn't have?
[12:22] <Kimmen> dirkG: I have used a prog called getdataback or ntfs getdataback or something like that
[12:23] <brown12> Maybe I need to start from the beginning with fstab.
[12:23] <ohsix> brown12: i don't know about any ntfs configuration tool; it's probably the thing that broke it
[12:23] <brown12> I'm just afraid to configure fstab without really understanding what I am doing.
[12:23] <ohsix> brown12: just look at fstab and see what it did, make it look like the rest
[12:23] <maxsaniel>   /join #ubuntu-pt
[12:23] <ikonia> maxsaniel: please stop that
[12:23] <eveningsky> jeetu: the best you're going to get with microsoft on your linux box is a very slow and glitchy application.
[12:23] <brown12> @ohsix Thanks again. I will take a few minutes and get to know fstab.
[12:23] <rcconf> maxsaniel: speak english or leave
[12:24] <ikonia> maxsaniel: type /join #ubuntu-pt if you want to join #ubuntu-pt
[12:24] <dirkG> forgive my lack of irc knowledge...   anyway yeah the drive looks to be pretty trashed... recovery console craps out, recovery reinstall just wants to reformat before reinstalling.... i've done data recovery on a reformatted drive before (i don't remember what software i used, that's another question) but i'm concerned about losing or corrupting data
[12:24] <ohsix> oh heh
[12:24] <ohsix> you mean with windows alone :O
[12:25] <safalis> I have a problem connecting to Windows PPTP VPN from Ubuntu 10.10, when I try to connect I get "LCP: timeout sending config requests " and does not connect to the VPN
[12:25] <dirkG> oh i've thrown several distros at it
[12:25] <ohsix> if you're concerned image the drive asap, then work with the image
[12:25] <dirkG> what would you recommend i use to image the drive
[12:25] <Zealous> has anyone used much of fast track the Web GUI loads and it does not bring up the console with green text for testing
[12:25] <rcconf> windows rules... to play minecraft
[12:25] <dirkG> again, i'm sorry i know this isnt the right channel
[12:25] <{C9}t00lsh3d> As I said I was trying to test my webcam and this is clearly a problem
[12:25] <{C9}t00lsh3d> http://pastebin.com/dGuFDTSM
[12:26] <beniwtv> dirkG: dd can do it, but http://redobackup.org/ it supposed to be simpler
[12:26] <maxsaniel> exit
[12:26] <ohsix> dirkG: ddrescue or gddrescue
[12:26] <rcconf> maxsaniel: /quit
[12:26] <ohsix> the latter is nicer
[12:26] <Zealous> eeeewww winblows
[12:26] <dirkG> looking into it now
[12:26] <stianhj> When I open an image with nautilus, nautilus keeps keyboard focus, so when I go to Ctrl-W the image, it closes nautilus instead.. what's up with that?
[12:27] <{C9}t00lsh3d>  :/
[12:27] <dirkG> yeah dude windows sucks, but sometimes we have to work on other people's computers
[12:27] <beniwtv> {C9}t00lsh3d: Do you get any device nodes in /dev/? (/dev/video*)
[12:28] <ohsix> Zealous: opinions are rarely on topic
[12:28] <{C9}t00lsh3d> beniwtv /dev/video* <-- no such file or directory
[12:29] <tuxhack> join #xen
[12:29] <iceroot> stianhj: what should ctrl + w do there? normally ctrl + w is a global shortcut to close the current window
[12:29] <{C9}t00lsh3d> and /dev/ is full of stuff I don't know what I'm looking for
[12:29] <machine_> hi
[12:29] <beniwtv> Huh... anyone noticed ubuntu.com advertising the natty beta, butt giving a 404 :D
[12:29] <iceroot> beniwtv: #ubuntu+1
[12:29] <machine_> how do i uninstall ubuntu from my boot cd
[12:29] <machine_> whenever i click format nothing happens
[12:29] <beniwtv> {C9}t00lsh3d: you are looking for a file starting with video
[12:29] <machine_> need to do a fresh install of ubuntu
[12:30] <{C9}t00lsh3d> beniwtv: nothing :/
[12:30] <iceroot> machine_: just run the installer, it will automaticly delete your old system
[12:30] <keyUp> I tried old modem is connecting perfectly, what I think and I am sure of is this, ubuntu have major problem connecting to my particular model of motorola modem
[12:30] <machine_> whenever i point it to the same hard disk
[12:30] <keyUp> as I thought it is driver issue ..
[12:30] <machine_> it says no root
[12:30] <machine_> blah blah
[12:30] <{C9}t00lsh3d> machine_
[12:30] <keyUp> how to solve it please I am stuck cant contiue to work this is very frustrating
[12:30] <machine_> yes?
[12:30] <{C9}t00lsh3d> put a forward slash /
[12:30] <iceroot> machine_: you want to use the whole disc?
[12:30] <beniwtv> {C9}t00lsh3d: Probably the driver ubuntu has does not work with your camera then, try searching google with your camera model and the error in your log
[12:30] <ohsix> machine_: back up /home and /etc and any other important places; then reformat that partition
[12:30] <{C9}t00lsh3d> in mount location thing
[12:30] <{C9}t00lsh3d> lol
[12:31] <machine_> no not whole disk sir
[12:31] <machine_> i partitioned it before to use 10 gb
[12:31] <machine_> whenever i point to the 10gb partition it says no root
[12:31] <{C9}t00lsh3d> beniwtv: okay thanks
[12:31] <machine_> whats the difference between / and /home?
[12:31] <dirkG> am i reading right that gddrescue will create an image i can work against? or does it simply work against a precreated image?
[12:31] <iceroot> machine_: then tell the installer he should use the 10gb partition to build there /boot / /swap and so on
[12:32] <iceroot> machine_: /home is a subdirectory from /
[12:32] <machine_> im a noob sorry....whats the difference if i use the / or /etc /etc
[12:32] <iceroot> machine_: / is the startpoint of your system
[12:32] <machine_> if i used that i just ereased all my harddsik?
[12:32] <iceroot> machine_: best thing is to let the installer create a partition layout
[12:32] <machine_> i had a partition layout before
[12:33] <machine_> and i want to use it again by installing ubuntu on it again
[12:33] <iceroot> machine_: first, why you need to reinstall?
[12:33] <{C9}t00lsh3d> How do I view my kernel version ?
[12:33] <ohsix> dirkG: it'll copy everything it can & do bookkeeping for parts it cant, from a block device to a file
[12:33] <machine_> kernel panicked after i installed a
[12:33] <beniwtv> {C9}t00lsh3d: uname -a
[12:33] <machine_> video card river
[12:34] <iceroot> {C9}t00lsh3d: uname -r   also can you please remove the { from your nick?
[12:34] <ohsix> dirkG: the file will have a drive image you can try and recover stuff from without causing further damage
[12:34] <keyUp> ubuntu have problem connecting to my motorola modem version
[12:34] <keyUp> that is the case here
[12:34] <keyUp> i just paid for 3 months to my ISP
[12:34] <keyUp> omg
[12:34] <iceroot> machine_: kernel-panik or just a black screen/some other errors?
[12:34] <keyUp> im screwed :S
[12:34] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <keyUp> what to do now
[12:35] <machine_> it says kernel panick before
[12:35] <machine_> oh wait
[12:35] <machine_> its booting up now
[12:35] <bignono1> how can i repair my os from the cd?
[12:35] <machine_> lol
[12:35] <bignono1> using 10.04
[12:35] <iceroot> machine_: only at windows you need to reinstall :)
[12:35] <xangua> repair what bignono1 ¿
[12:35] <machine_> iceroot thanks for the support
[12:35] <keyUp> omg pls help im stuck
[12:35] <machine_> my boot works fine
[12:35] <ohsix> keyUp: try the usb port if you're connecting directly
[12:36] <machine_> i use easybcd in windows
[12:36] <bignono1> i deleted some stuffs and cant get them back
[12:36] <iceroot> keyUp: usefull details please . e.g. what you mean with "problems" error-codes and so on
[12:36] <keyUp> i dont have usb cable but i want eth man..
[12:36] <dirkG> so i can run ddrescue to driveA saving the image to driveB and do all my cool recovery action against B?  also does it care what the filesystem is or what the partition style to destination is? any kind of 'caveat emptors'?
[12:36] <keyUp> iceroot, i can't connect to the motorola modem..
[12:36] <ohsix> keyUp: well, you want what works, right?
[12:36] <bignono1> i deleted as root
[12:36] <keyUp> basically thats it
[12:37] <iceroot> bignono1: you deleted what exactly?
[12:37] <ohsix> dirkG: its all bytes, you don't image to another drive but a file on that drive
[12:37] <keyUp> i checked tested and I know now that ubuntu can't connect to my version of motorola surfboard modem
[12:37] <iceroot> keyUp: does ubuntu show your modem?
[12:37] <dirkG> or that i'm connecting usb drives, or using liveDVDs...
[12:37] <keyUp> is newest I think
[12:37] <bignono1> many things
[12:37] <keyUp> i just paid my ISP for  3 months..
[12:37] <keyUp> pls help..
[12:37] <bignono1> icons
[12:37] <machine_> how can i use my radeon 6850
[12:37] <bignono1> submenus
[12:37] <machine_> i installed a driver from ati before
[12:37] <ohsix> keyUp: people tried
[12:37] <keyUp> iceroot I can connect (from 3 tries and with wait of 1 min or so) and then I cant even open modem page
[12:37] <machine_> it crashed my ubuntu
[12:37] <iceroot> keyUp: stop flooding the channel please, you give as usefull details and put the nickname of the person infront you are talking to
[12:38] <keyUp> this is major problem guys
[12:38] <iceroot> keyUp: but ubuntu shows the modem?
[12:38] <xangua> !enter
[12:38] <keyUp> iceroot, how you mean
[12:38] <iceroot> keyUp: if ubuntu is detecting the modem, maybe its shown in the network-manager?
[12:38] <keyUp> iceroot, tell me what to do to check
[12:38] <keyUp> yes as I said i can connect but hard
[12:39] <beniwtv> bignono1: If they were installed by the ubuntu system, you can probably get these files back by reinstalling the packages, try packages.ubuntu.com to locate files in packages you need.
[12:39] <keyUp> from 5 times 1 and with wait of 1 min it has problems connecting
[12:39] <iceroot> keyUp: right top corner of your display there is the networkmanager-applet (nm-applet) IS IT SHOWING THE MODEM?
[12:39] <keyUp> now it is not connected if I connect it i will lose my internet wireless from my neighbour
[12:39] <keyUp> omg
[12:39] <ohsix> keyUp: if you insist on keeping use of enter for punctuation, could you speak in msg with the person helping you?
[12:40] <machine_> iceroot: how can i install ati radeon 6850 driver
[12:40] <machine_> i dont want to manual install anymore
[12:40] <ohsix> keyUp: you can be connected to both
[12:40] <keyUp> as I said cable is conected to my laptop if I conect from network manager I can connect but it has hard time connecting then it cant open mdoem page
[12:40] <iceroot> !ati | machine_
[12:40] <SgrA> I'm trying to connect to internet on my new installation of Xubuntu 10.10. ifconfig shows that local ip is 192.168.1.2 but ping www.google.com doesn't do anything.
[12:40] <keyUp> i have tried with other version of motorola modem its ok
[12:40] <keyUp> just this version (newest) has problem
[12:40] <keyUp> ohsix, i lose internet if both are connected duno why
[12:40] <bignono1> thank you all
[12:40] <iceroot> keyUp: and why not using a version which works?
[12:40] <SgrA> My router is Sterlite SAM300AX
[12:41] <LiJunLe> when does the beta1 release?
[12:41] <iceroot> LiJunLe: #ubuntu+1
[12:41] <beniwtv> SgrA: Canyou ping by ip, e.g. 209.85.175.99
[12:41] <keyUp> iceroot, because odler version router was from previous ISP now I have new ISP and that older modem dont work with their conection i tried
[12:41] <SgrA> beniwtv, I'm on windows right now, I'll reboot, try and come back to you. Right?
[12:41] <keyUp> but when I connect tht modem to laptop i can open that modem page and new one i cant
[12:41] <beniwtv> SgrA:  yep
[12:42] <keyUp> it also have hard time connecting to it..
[12:42] <iceroot> keyUp: you have a router and then a modem connected to your ubuntu?
[12:42] <keyUp> no
[12:42] <keyUp> modem directly connected
[12:42] <keyUp> this is major problem for ubuntu
[12:42] <keyUp> after all..
[12:42] <keyUp> and I am very veryyyyyy stuck
[12:42] <iceroot> keyUp: last warning, stop using enter that much
[12:42] <keyUp> i can't work and i paid 3 months to my ISP please help please..
[12:42] <ohsix> keyUp: if the modem is new it could be busy updating its firmware, the web server is low priority, it might never load; but the modem is still working
[12:43] <keyUp> iceroot, sry but put yourself in my place.. :S
[12:43] <Jasonn> My xUbuntu computer uses the internal speaker as the default... How do i change this to the speaker plugged in?
[12:43] <iceroot> keyUp: put yourself in my place (without good infos)
[12:43] <beniwtv> Jasonn: On my HP laptop, I can switch outputs in the sound configuration utility (top right, speaker icon)
[12:43] <machine_> that ati catalyst 11.2 doesnt work for my system iceroot
[12:44] <keyUp> i am not sure how new it is here is its model version and everythin : Motorola SurfBoard  model no. 113192168
[12:44] <keyUp> please guys I can't continue working and I paid my ISP for 3 months
[12:45] <Jasonn> beniwtv: Thanks :)
[12:45] <Jasonn> keyUp: Whats the problem?
[12:45] <ohsix> keyUp: what you did with your isp is pretty irrelevant
[12:45] <keyUp> modem is sb5101E
[12:45] <beniwtv> Jasonn: no problem :)
[12:45] <SgrA> beniwtv: It works when I use just the IP
[12:46] <keyUp> ubuntu cant conect right to this motorola modem
[12:46] <SgrA> beniwtv, I could ping google.
[12:46] <keyUp> tht is the problem 10)%
[12:46] <keyUp> 100%
[12:46] <keyUp> I tested everything is fine (my laptop etwork card, cable)
[12:46] <beniwtv> SgrA: Then the DNS servers are incorrect, try adding "nameserver 208.67.222.222" to /etc/resolv.conf (without quotes)
[12:46] <keyUp> motorola surfboard sb5101E
[12:47] <SgrA> beniwtv: Can I use the DNS servers provided by my ISP instead?
[12:47] <keyUp> when i connect to it it has very hard time connecting
[12:47] <Jasonn> keyUp: Is the modem connected and working?
[12:47] <keyUp> then it refuse to open modem page it is loading forever...
[12:47] <keyUp> yes
[12:47] <SgrA> beniwtv, Never mind, I'll use those. :)
[12:47] <beniwtv> SgrA: yes, of course, these are OpenDNS and I just knew them .)
[12:47] <gaelfx> keyUp: what kind of connection does it use? pppoe or something like that?
[12:47] <Jasonn> keyUp: Try typing this im terminal: sudo apt-get update
[12:47] <SgrA> beniwtv, Thanks.
[12:47] <keyUp> modem seems fine, ISP technicians were here said they had internet from my conection to their win laptop
[12:47] <SgrA> * REBOOTS
[12:48] <Jasonn> gaelfx: I think he has a modem-router
[12:48] <keyUp> modem is fine..
[12:48] <ohsix> keyUp: forget the modem page, just forget  it
[12:48] <ohsix> gaelfx: its a bridge, cable modem
[12:48] <beniwtv> SgrA:  of course, there is a change the provider's servers do not work which could be giving you the problem in the first place
[12:48] <keyUp> jasonn, I will and come back here since when i conect modem to laptop i lose my wireless conect thqt i have now from my friend
[12:48] <gaelfx> Jasonn: ohsix: thanks guys
[12:48] <keyUp> gaelfx, not sure
[12:49] <Jasonn> gaelfx: :))
[12:49] <Jasonn> keyUp: Hmm, i dont think that is the problem, i think you are missing the drivers for the internal modem
[12:49] <keyUp> Jasonn it is 100%
[12:49] <janybek>  hi there
[12:49] <ohsix> Jasonn: no internal modem, cable modem with ethernet and usb
[12:49] <Jasonn> keyUp: Does the computer even detect the network?
[12:49] <keyUp> i tested everythi everything is fine believe me 100% 2 days im stuck
[12:50] <Jasonn> ohsix: Yeah, sorry I meant the adapter D:
[12:50] <keyUp> Jasonn, yes it gets even correct ip address and everything when i connect modem to internet
[12:50] <Jasonn> keyUp: What is the IP address of the modem(config page)
[12:50] <janybek> can anybody help me with nm-applet ? it's gone!
[12:50] <keyUp> jasonn yes i think so drivers are problems
[12:50] <keyUp> how to solve this pls pls
[12:50] <Jasonn> keyUp: What is the IP address of the modem(config page)
[12:50] <keyUp> sec
[12:50] <ohsix> loool
[12:51] <keyUp> i cant open modem config page..
[12:51] <xangua> janybek: run nm-appler & add notification area to the panel
[12:51] <Jasonn> keyUp: Just tell me the IP address
[12:51] <keyUp> and also modem has very ahrd time connecting to my ubuntu
[12:51] <ohsix> i'm beginning to think this is a troll
[12:51] <keyUp> sec
[12:51] <keyUp> i will have to go off
[12:51] <keyUp> and come
[12:51] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:51] <Jasonn> keyUp: WAIT Just tell me the numbers
[12:51] <janybek> it doesn't work
[12:51] <janybek> I did it couple times
[12:51] <Jasonn> keyUp: Doesnt matter, i just need the numbers
[12:52] <Kimmen> keyUp: did you find a crossover cable?
[12:52] <Jasonn> EVERYONE: I think keyUp just needs to get a static IP
[12:53] <ohsix> Kimmen: the port on the modem is auto switching
[12:53] <ohsix> jasonn is in on it!
[12:53] <Jasonn> hahah
[12:53] <Jasonn> NEtworking is just my thing
[12:53] <janybek> I added the notification area but the network icon does not appear there :(
[12:53] <janybek> even when I ran nm-applet
[12:54] <Jasonn> janybek: You might have to wait till you get a notif
[12:54] <Kimmen> Jasonn: and I say that the problem lies elsewhere since keyUp has excessive errors on eth0
[12:54] <keyUp_> 89.205.61.229
[12:54] <ohsix> Kimmen: have the original post?
[12:54] <keyUp_> jasonn, that is the ip
[12:54] <keyUp_> i have static ip from isp for sure i told them i want sstatic
[12:54] <Jasonn> keyUp_: D: The one you use to get onto the config page?
[12:55] <keyUp_> no
[12:55] <keyUp_> 192.168.100.1
[12:55] <Kimmen> ohsix: no sorry but I have seen the pastebin where he had 15k errors and 5-10 min later 25k errors
[12:55] <keyUp_> but i cant open modem page
[12:55] <ohsix> Kimmen: his nic might not be autonegotiating right
[12:55] <janybek> is there any way to configure my wifi connection without this applet?
[12:55] <keyUp_> something is wrong with modem conection im 100% is modem drivers
[12:55] <ohsix> keyUp_: forget the modem page, seriously
[12:55] <Kimmen> ohsix: could be, or that the modem doesn't neg
[12:55] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Do you know how to set an IP addr to your comp?
[12:55] <keyUp_> please help me to solve this, I cant continue my work and I paid ISP for 3 months  :S
[12:55] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Do you know how to set an IP addr to your comp?
[12:55] <emma> Where is the public log to #ubuntu-ops-team ?
[12:55] <ohsix> what you did with your isp is irrelevant
[12:56] <emma> Where is the public log to #ubuntu-irc-team ?
[12:56] <keyUp_> jasonn, isp etchnicians were here they said it has to be done dhcp auto it was set that way from their ISP..
[12:56] <Jasonn> Emma: Ubuntu related questions only
[12:56] <induz> why I get this error while updating/installing kpackages; failed to provide authentication
[12:56] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Just try it, do you know how?
[12:56] <Kimmen> Jasonn: he's getting the 89.205.61.229 IP from DHCP when he connects to the modem
[12:56] <keyUp_> how
[12:56] <ikonia> emma: that's not a channel, jump into -ops and I'll help if I can
[12:56] <ohsix> you're online, it's working
[12:56] <Jasonn> Kimmen: No, thats his external IP
[12:57] <keyUp_> i set IP then subnet they said it is 255.255.255.0
[12:57] <Kimmen> Jasonn: no
[12:57] <Jasonn> yes
[12:57] <keyUp_> the for dns and domain resolve dont know what to type
[12:57] <keyUp_> i think i can see their dns from my friend who use them
[12:57] <ohsix> Jasonn: and his real ip; its a _bridge_
[12:57] <keyUp_> but what to put in domain to resolve
[12:57] <Kimmen> Jasonn: that's the IP he gets on the eth0 connection
[12:57] <keyUp_> below dns in network setings
[12:57] <janybek> Jason: how can I connect to wifi without the nm-applet?
[12:58] <keyUp_> ohsix, it is not working ow i use my friend wireless omg man :))))
[12:58] <ohsix> keyUp_: don't put anything in there; and if you have, delete "auto eth0" and let it get created again
[12:58] <keyUp_> Kimmen, yes man omg
[12:58] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Through your computer out the window, and get a windows one *problem solved* <-- done
[12:58] <keyUp_> it is ext ip
[12:58] <beniwtv> janybek: You might want to try wicd from the repos
[12:58] <keyUp_> i think
[12:58] <ohsix> keyUp_: oic
[12:58] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Can i run a ping test on your modem??
[12:58] <keyUp_> yes
[12:58] <keyUp_> i did tht i delete all conection then it created automatically conection but still is bugy
[12:59] <tuxhack> does any body think that I need to recompile the kernel to get xen support ?
[12:59] <keyUp_> guys dont waste your time im positive is driver issue
[12:59] <ohsix> theres no driver brah
[12:59] <keyUp_> i tested 2 days tried diferent cable diferent modem everything
[12:59] <keyUp_> diferent pc
[12:59] <keyUp_> it is modem driver for ubuntu
[12:59] <tuxhack> like said here: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps
[12:59] <keyUp_> modem is motorola surfboard sb5101E
[12:59] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Your modem is not online
[12:59] <ohsix> theres no modem driver, it's ethernet
[13:00] <ohsix> if you were using usb thered be a driver, cdcethernet, but you aren't
[13:00] <Jasonn> ohsix: I think he means the adapter driver
[13:00] <induz> what is correct authentication when installing a s/w from kpackage??
[13:00] <Jasonn> ohsix: His modem/router/watever is not online
[13:00] <ohsix> ethernet adapter?
[13:00] <vlt> Hello. When I'm logged in to my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS gnome session and I lock the session (or the screen saver does) I can't unlock it anymore. Any idea what to check first?
[13:00] <keyUp_> so
[13:00] <keyUp_> what can be THIS STRANGE problem
[13:00] <keyUp_> omg
[13:00] <ohsix> Jasonn: if theres no cpe then its just the bridge, theres no _computer_ online
[13:00] <keyUp_> omg
[13:00] <FloodBot3> keyUp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:00] <Pici> keyUp_: stop that.
[13:01] <keyUp_> 2 days no work i paid 3 motnhs to my isp what to do omg omg pls help :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((9
[13:01] <Jasonn> ohsix: BUT I should be able to ping the modem
[13:01] <ohsix> Jasonn: that its a bridge is an important point
[13:01] <Jasonn> ohsix: I quit
[13:01] <SgrA> firefox doesn't start on xubuntu
[13:01] <keyUp_> with older version of motorola is fine i can access he modem page everything is fine
[13:01] <ohsix> Jasonn: let me put it this way, ping mine; it's 10.64.0.187
[13:01] <keyUp_> this modem has problems connecting to ubuntu
[13:01] <SgrA> "/usr/bin/firefox": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[13:01] <Jasonn> SgrA: Reinstall it
[13:01] <keyUp_> i have nt installed anything
[13:01] <SgrA> Jasonn, Tried that already.
[13:02] <ohsix> Jasonn: it's a bridge & when theres no cpe theres nothing to ping unless you're on the 10. network the bridge is on, ie. his isp
[13:02] <Jasonn> SgrA: Can you try to see if that *is* an executable file?
[13:02] <Jasonn> ohsix:  hmmm
[13:02] <keyUp_> jasonn, how you would ping my modem?
[13:02] <webmaster> ciao
[13:02] <webmaster> !list
[13:02] <SgrA> Jasonn, Its apparently a symbolic link to `../lib/firefox-3.6.16/firefox.sh'+
[13:02] <Jasonn> keyUp_: nvm about that,
[13:02] <SgrA> -+
[13:03] <iceroot> keyUp_: can you paste the output of "ifconfig" to pastebin?
[13:03] <ohsix> Jasonn: with the bridge in the middle what he plugs into acts exactly like an ethernet port as if he were in the noc of the isp
[13:03] <Jasonn> ohsix: But why, i dont get that, i SHOULD be able to ping the modem, no ?
[13:03] <keyUp_> As far as i know there is no driver for any of the SB5100 series. Honestly your best bet it to just get a router.
[13:03] <keyUp_> omg
[13:03] <keyUp_> :S
[13:03] <ohsix> SgrA: did you install that one version of that 3rd party firefox that breaks everything?
[13:04] <Jasonn> ohsix: So, im on rogers, and if someone else is on rogers, i can ping them, but otherwise, no?
[13:04] <Peppson> Hello
[13:04] <ohsix> Jasonn: the modem is on private addresses and you are not on that network
[13:04] <keyUp_> strange is this, when I put modem in my wireless router router dont get internet too...
[13:04] <iceroot> keyUp_: are you a troll? we told you 10 times to stop flooding with your enter-actions
[13:04] <Jasonn> ohsix: So, im on rogers, and if someone else is on rogers, i can ping them, but otherwise, no?
[13:04] <SgrA> ohsix, Nope, the stock installed one on xubuntu 10.10
[13:04] <keyUp_> so really am i missing something here or?
[13:04] <keyUp_> iceroot, http://pastebin.com/egKwDAW9
[13:04] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Yeah, never pay your ISP for 3 montha
[13:04] <safalis> I have a problem connecting to a PPTP VPN windows when I try to connect I get "LCP: timeout sending config requests " and does not connect to the VPN
[13:04] <keyUp_> jasson, i must
[13:04] <iceroot> keyUp_: now reread my question
[13:05] <keyUp_> http://pastebin.com/mXeZrH6S
[13:05] <iceroot> keyUp_: ping != ifconfig
[13:05] <keyUp_> im am sorry
[13:05] <keyUp_> mu second link
[13:05] <ohsix> safalis: i think i've seen someone mention that if you use the wrtong authentication that can happen, failing that it sounds like the connection its doing it over isn't working
[13:05] <keyUp_> guys when i connect modem to router router dont get internet
[13:05] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Call up yer ISP, tell them to fix the problem or you are cancelling
[13:05] <keyUp_> what in hell can be the problem here?
[13:05] <iceroot> keyUp_: then its not the fault of ubuntu
[13:05] <iceroot> keyUp_: time to speak to your isp
[13:05] <machine_> my ubuntu just goes black after installing the ati driver
[13:06] <keyUp_> my isp is fucking with big time most likely
[13:06] <ohsix> demand they replace the modem
[13:06] <keyUp_> jasonn, heh after payig 3 months
[13:06] <Pici> keyUp_: Mind your language.
[13:06] <Jasonn> yeah
[13:06] <keyUp_> they will be happy to cancel :D
[13:06] <machine_> i installed the driver on the "additional drivers" tab
[13:06] <ohsix> and stfu please :[
[13:06] <Jasonn> keyUp_: Tell them you wont pay for anymore
[13:06] <keyUp_> oh
[13:06] <keyUp_> i paid 3 months for nothing
[13:06] <keyUp_> annd they were only choice for static ip :(
[13:06] <Kimmen> keyUp_: shange modem
[13:06] <Jasonn> keyUp_: The *will* fix it
[13:06] <Jasonn> gtg
[13:06] <Jasonn> laters
[13:07] <keyUp_> what in hell they were here told me it is fine to win lptop
[13:07] <machine_> can i delete the partition in windows to fresh install ubuntu?
[13:07] <keyUp_> ah
[13:07] <ohsix> please go somewhere else if you can't stop talking
[13:07] <keyUp_> my local isp are so ..
[13:07] <keyUp_> omg i cant work i lsoe money :(
[13:07] <ohsix> your local isp is who you talk to; it isn't a ubuntu problem
[13:08] <machine_> iceroot: why does my screen just go black when i start ubuntu after installing the ati driver
[13:08] <machine_> i used the auto updat in additional drivers
[13:09] <iceroot> machine_: which ubuntu version? the normal kernel which comes with that version?
[13:09] <keyUp_> wait
[13:09] <keyUp_> i will conect modem to router
[13:09] <machine_> ubuntu 10.10
[13:09] <keyUp_> and try that final
[13:09] <keyUp_> thing before i go to local isp with my gun :)
[13:09] <machine_> ubuntu 10.10 desktop version
[13:09] <keyUp_> ill be back
[13:09] <FloodBot3> keyUp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <ohsix> jesus h
[13:09] <machine_> iceroot: ubuntu 10.10 desktop version
[13:09] <ikonia> KermaperC: ok - calm down with the enter key, you've been asked a few times now, type what you need to, then press enter
[13:09] <machine_> 64 bit
[13:10] <ikonia> oops,
[13:10] <Kimmen> I say that keyUp's modem is bre4kz0rd
[13:10] <ikonia> KermaperC: sorry, that was for keyUp_ who quit as I was typing
[13:11] <keyUp> guys
[13:11] <Lin4> Hi
[13:12] <keyUp> i am sorry but you have to make update to ubuntu for  motorola surfboard sb5101E
[13:12] <keyUp> after all that is the problem
[13:12] <keyUp> i have internet when i connect cable modem to the router then my laptop to the router..
[13:12] <keyUp> so ubuntu can't conect to motorola surfboard sb5101E
[13:12] <keyUp> confirmed...
[13:12] <trasandato_> ci 6
[13:12] <Pici> keyUp: ok - calm down with the enter key, you've been asked a few times now, type what you need to, then press enter
[13:13] <keyUp> Pici, ok but say thanks I found ubuntu bug.. that needs update :)
[13:13] <trasandato_> salve chi mi può iutare a settare xchat?
[13:13] <iceroot> !bug | keyUp
[13:13] <keyUp> omg i was so desperately stuck you have no idea i didnt knew what was going on
[13:13] <Pici> keyUp: That doesn't mean that you can disregard this channel's rules.
[13:13] <keyUp> i will post it now
[13:13] <keyUp> Pici, you are right but is important bug
[13:13] <keyUp> which I am sute will help thousands as this modem seems to be new i think
[13:14] <safalis> ohsix: in debug nt/ppp0 could not get port´s parent device
[13:14] <machine_> any help for radeon 6850 driver for ubuntu 10.10 desktop 64bit PLSSSSSSSS
[13:14] <keyUp> tell technicians to correct it i will post to the bug section now to help others with similar problem
[13:14] <keyUp> omg i am so happy
[13:14] <machine_> its the only sh*t thats keeping me from using ubuntu
[13:15] <jhattara> i have a probelm with pure-ftpd on Lucid server, i have several automated stations that ftp their results to the server, but one of those has now started to malfunction and hogs upto 100% of processor resources into transfer processes that somehow fail and stay open, old Lucid server didn't have any issues with any of the stations
[13:16] <stianhj> iceroot, ctrl-w should close the image.. but the image doesn't get keyboard focus.. so it closes the nautilus window i used to open the image instead.. which is just annoying
[13:16] <franskubuntuque> after several updates, now everytime i reboot, the display shows several messages of linux versions update ! how can i delete the messages, as i only need the last 2 lines . . . of course, i don't need the earlier versions anymore . . . please help or give me some hints . . .
[13:17] <machine_> waaaah
[13:17] <th0r> machine_: that will help
[13:18] <machine_> lol
[13:18] <dyllan> Can anybody give me some ideas as to how to go about setting up a system that ONLY provides, email, browser and office suite? I have a powerful server and 100's of thin clients on the same LAN, i want the users to login to the thin client, check email, browse and do some office stuff if needed.
[13:18] <machine_> cmon i really want to use ubuntu
[13:18] <machine_> but my graphic driver wont install
[13:18] <simion314> hi, what command can i use to see if i installed 64bit or 32 bit ubuntu?
[13:19] <th0r> franskubuntuque: http://www.google.com/search?q=remove+old+kernels+from+grub2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[13:19] <seeeerek> Hi, i installed ubuntu 10.10 and i don't have sound - how to fix that? I don't see any devices on sound preferences :(
[13:19] <hp> Hi I need to convert a mpeg video to quick time format Its a high school basketball game its for school can you give me a hint what software to use
[13:20] <th0r> dyllan: you can uninstall the apps you don't need and just leave the office, browser, and email
[13:20] <ohsix> seeeerek: open a terminal and run "fuser -v /dev/snd/*"
[13:20] <simion314> hp: ffmpeg
[13:20] <hp> thanks simion i have the gui version downloading
[13:20] <ohsix> the qt muxer in ffmpeg is sadsville
[13:21] <simion314> hp: and is some GUI for it but i don remember how is called
[13:21] <seeeerek> ohsix: nothing happens
[13:21] <ohsix> seeeerek: empty output?
[13:21] <seeeerek> ohsix: yes
[13:21] <hp> simion314 winff i have it downloading thank u
[13:21] <dyllan> th0r, it's almost impossible to do that with ubuntu, one app is dependant on the next you start breaking stuff. Plus i dont want any menus, just a clean desktop with the icons
[13:21] <franskubuntuque> ok, th0r . . . thank you so very very much on that tips . . . i'll try that first ... see you
[13:22] <ohsix> seeeerek: did you modify anything after the install?
[13:22] <bda> hello, whats the best virtualization software to use with an ubuntu server host?
[13:22] <simion314> my using free -m command it seems that ubuntu sees only 3Gb from 4, but i remember that i installed 64bit version
[13:22] <airtonix> bda: you should ask that in #ubuntu-server
[13:23] <seeeerek> ohsix: Hmm, yes i installed realtek-linux-audiopack-5.16
[13:23] <th0r> dyllan: I would start with a simple interface like lubuntu, and then do a custom install with only the apps I wanted. You can disable/remove panels, menus, etc. and just leave the wm with the desktop icons. Then image the drive for the other stations
[13:23] <bda> airtonix: thanks
[13:23] <ohsix> seeeerek: theres your problem
[13:23] <dyllan> th0r, ok ill look into it, shot.
[13:23] <ohsix> seeeerek: you'll have to figure out how to undo the damage
[13:24] <hp> Simion314 it doesnt have quicktime as choice
[13:25] <simion314> hp: .mov file? you need to read more see what audio and video codec you use
[13:26] <seeeerek> ohsix: but how?
[13:26] <nettezzaumana> back again
[13:26] <nettezzaumana> what's please a klipper style app in gnome ?
[13:26] <nettezzaumana> s/style/kind/
[13:26] <Pici> nettezzaumana: glipper
[13:26] <ohsix> seeeerek: no clue, thats why i don't advocate anyone install anything outside of a package, the fs gets strewn with untrackable garbage
[13:27] <aliquando> hello i have a question on cpufreq with my netbook. It seems that my cpu is not recognized by linux consequently i can't use cpufreq through classical way. I would if it is possible to control manually the frequency of my cpu
[13:27] <JuNeX> hello
[13:27] <ohsix> seeeerek: you can _try_ and reinstall the kernel imagel hopefully it will overwrite the damage, but i still wouldn't trust it
[13:28] <maxiaofei> h
[13:28] <coz_> aliquando,   http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[13:28] <maxiaofei> hello
[13:28] <eveningsky> why does rescue remix easy flash drive installation rely on windows?
[13:28] <nettezzaumana> Pici: thanks ... and nothing else ?
[13:29] <JuNeX> im using Ubuntu 10.10 dual boot with WinXP thru WUBI. and if i remove/upgrade my windows my ubuntu be lost?
[13:29] <hp> Simon314 thank you
[13:29] <Pici> nettezzaumana: I'm not aware of any others.
[13:29] <Kimmen> JuNeX: yes
[13:29] <JuNeX> i see
[13:29] <aliquando> thx coz_ but these file does not exist because the kernel does not detect my cpu
[13:29] <Kimmen> JuNeX: at least if you remove
[13:30] <lun0> JuNeX: yes, ubuntu really is in file on windows
[13:30] <lun0> where you installed it
[13:30] <JuNeX> kimmen: Thanks but if i upgrade it to Win 7?
[13:30] <coz_> aliquando,  mmm  ok , then also log onto the ##linux channel...someone there may be able to help
[13:30] <JuNeX> Luno: i installed using WUBI
[13:30] <coz_> aliquando,  out of curiosity which cpu is this?
[13:30] <coz_> aliquando,   sudo  dmidecode
[13:30] <aliquando> ok thank you (it is a intel atom D525)
[13:31] <Kimmen> JuNeX: just assume that it will disappear, don't think you can upgrade Win XP to Win7 without full reinstall
[13:31] <coz_> aliquando,  or  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:31] <JuNeX> kimmen: i see thanks!
[13:32] <Kimmen> aliquando: have you enabled the option in BIOS?
[13:32] <aliquando> this option does not exist in the bios (speedrun techno is not compatible with atom series D)
[13:33] <wookienz> guys where do i find a package or howto on making a repo?
[13:33] <Kimmen> aliquando: run: "lsmod | grep power"
[13:34] <Kimmen> aliquando: or: "lsmod | grep freq"
[13:34] <coz_> wookienz,   look here maybe   https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[13:34] <keyUp> can someone help decode motorola error logs when i tried to connect cable motorola modem to my ubuntu laptop?
[13:34] <aliquando> Kimmen, nothing with power and freq
[13:34] <keyUp> i will paste bin ok?
[13:34] <nils-> this is weird, I can't find rsnapshot via apt-cache although it's listed on packages.ubuntu.com
[13:35] <keyUp> can someone help decode motorola error logs when i tried to connect cable motorola modem to my ubuntu laptop?
[13:36] <coz_> wookienz,  you may also want to read this   http://askubuntu.com/questions/28562/how-do-i-create-a-ppa-for-a-working-program
[13:36] <keyUp> basically i get this 3 error lines when i try to connect motorola cable modem to ubuntu
[13:36] <keyUp> 1970-01-01 00:00:02	6-Notice	M571.4	Ethernet link dormant - not currently active
[13:36] <keyUp> 2011-03-31 10:34:11	6-Notice	I401.0	TLV-11 - unrecognized OID
[13:36] <keyUp> 1970-01-01 00:00:11	3-Critical	D003.0	DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response.
[13:36] <FloodBot3> keyUp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <wookienz> coz_:  i would liek to have my own repo mirror
[13:36] <helloer> ohsix, i updated kernel from 27 to 28 and now i have devices
[13:36] <coz_> wookienz,  checking
[13:36] <istok> nils-, i find it fine, maybe you need to edit your sources.list
[13:36] <keyUp> what these mean?
[13:36] <steveyos> I installed ubuntu 10.10 through the windows installer and have windows 7. When I boot into ubuntu I want to browse my windows folder to get my music, but I can't browse anything at all in windows. I've looked this up for hours and can only find network sharing for two different computers. I've done this before on older versions of ubuntu, what's up? Help please
[13:37] <coz_> wookienz,    http://popey.com/blog/2006/10/24/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror/
[13:37] <wookienz> apt-mirror!
[13:37] <wookienz> snap
[13:37] <Kimmen> keyUp: that means that there's something wrong with the connection between modem and PC
[13:37] <ohsix> keyUp: none are relevant to anything, nor ubuntu relevant
[13:37] <keyUp> yeh
[13:37] <coz_> wookienz,    http://www.supportsages.com/blog/2010/05/how-to-create-a-local-ubuntu-repository-updateupgrade-distros-locally-and-thereby-save-bandwidth/
[13:37] <keyUp> ubuntu have problem conecting to this particular new motorola cable modem
[13:37] <xangua> steveyos: make a real install
[13:37] <nils-> istok: already did.
[13:37] <keyUp> pass that to ubuntu technicians dont play smart ohsix :))
[13:38] <istok> did you allow backports?
[13:38] <wookienz> coz_: thanks.
[13:38] <keyUp> it is 100% true trust me i tested everything i am 100% sure
[13:38] <coz_> wookienz,  no problem..hope that pans our for you
[13:38] <steveyos> Do you mean burn it to a DVD? Would that honestly even matter?
[13:38] <keyUp> if you want we can bet on anything seriously now
[13:38] <nils-> removing /var/lib/apt/lists and running apt-get update did the trick
[13:38] <keyUp> 100$ you say it..
[13:38] <keyUp> i pay with paypal :)
[13:38] <Kimmen> keyUp: no, and no you don't need drivers for modem, no ubuntu follows ieee standards for ethernet 802.3 and dhcp
[13:38] <xangua> !enter | keyUp
[13:38] <keyUp> i dont want money if you lose
[13:38] <helloer> ohsix: can you repet command?
[13:38] <keyUp> if I lose you get my money from bet I am death serious
[13:38] <Kimmen> keyUp: if there's a problem it's hardware related
[13:38] <ikonia> keyUp: can you stop with the better stuff
[13:39] <ikonia> keyUp: we are here to help you resolve any ubuntu related technical issues, if we can, if not we can't help
[13:39] <ohsix> helloer: fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[13:39] <iceroot> just kick him
[13:39] <keyUp> no drivers but ubuntu have problems connecting to my motorola cable modem
[13:39] <ikonia> iceroot: please, don't
[13:39] <ikonia> keyUp: no drives, how is it connecting ?
[13:39] <ohsix> oh boy here we go again
[13:39] <Kimmen> ikonia: it's ethernet and DHCP
[13:39] <iceroot> ikonia: try it 5 minutes, then you want it
[13:39] <keyUp> I was to post this bug to ubuntu but found very hard and time consuming to post bug using aunchapd :S
[13:40] <keyUp> if you can pls pass this to technicians
[13:40] <Kimmen> you don't need drivers for that except ethernet card drivers
[13:40] <benzaldehyde> steveyos: mount the drive with the proper fs set
[13:40] <keyUp> ikonia ethernet
[13:40] <ohsix> ikonia: you're the 6th person and this is going to go on all morning at this rate
[13:40] <Kimmen> omg
[13:40] <benzaldehyde> steveyos: most likely an ntfs
[13:40] <Kimmen> keyUp: give it a rest
[13:40] <keyUp> i tried 2 days everything different cable different modem different pc different router
[13:40] <Kimmen> keyUp: really? different PC?
[13:40] <keyUp> and cam up to this ubuntu have problems connectging to this motorola cable modem wait i will say modem number now
[13:40] <ohsix> he paid for 3 months!
[13:41] <ikonia> keyUp: wait - lets work this through
[13:41] <ikonia> keyUp: how have you setup your network card
[13:41] <ohsix> PLEASE DON'T
[13:41] <Kimmen> keyUp: your modem is a bridge, ubuntu doesn't connect to it
[13:41] <keyUp> motorola surfboard sb5101E
[13:41] <benzaldehyde> steveyos: check your /dev/ for the drive and just mount it
[13:41] <ikonia> ?
[13:41] <Kimmen> ikonia: don't
[13:41] <keyUp> ikonia, ok
[13:41] <ikonia> keyUp: I need you to just answer my questions.
[13:41] <ikonia> Kimmen: lets find out
[13:41] <ohsix> ikonia is in on it
[13:41] <Kimmen> oh yes
[13:42] <keyUp> basically that's it because now I am connected to internet through my motorola cable modem which is connected to router
[13:42] <keyUp> so my laptop is conected to router router to motorola surfboard sb5101E
[13:42] <keyUp> and motorola surfboard sb5101E is taking internet from my ISP
[13:42] <ikonia> keyUp: no,  I need you to answer my question, no other comments
[13:42] <ikonia> keyUp: how have you setup your network card
[13:42] <ikonia> keyUp: stop, only warning
[13:42] <jacco> Anybody been able to get beta image yet? Or is the link dead on website?
[13:42] <helloer> ohsix, : /dev/snd/controlC0:  gdm        1362 F.... pulseaudio                     helloer    1539 F.... pulseaudio
[13:42] <ikonia> keyUp: that is the only question you need to answer now
[13:42] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <ikonia> keyUp: answer my question
[13:42] <steveyos> benzaldehyde: I'm switching to ubuntu right now, that sounds like the easiest solution so far so hopefully it'll work I'll be right back!
[13:42] <Kimmen> ikonia: the modem is in bridged mode, i.e. no DHCP coming from it, keyUp gets DHCP address. He also gets excessive packet loss and errors on eth0 in ubuntu when connecting directly to modem. This is hardware problem
[13:43] <iceroot> ikonia: 3 minutes left :)
[13:43] <ohsix> helloer: looks like things should be working again
[13:43] <Abhijit> jacco, #ubuntu+1
[13:43] <keyUp> this way it works, but when I plug motorola surfboard sb5101E directly in my laptop it wont connect like it should it have errors and I dont have internet and I dont can even open modem page
[13:43] <ikonia> keyUp: it certainly sounds like it
[13:43] <jacco> Abhijit, thanks, let'stry that
[13:43] <ohsix> helloer: open the volume control applet and go to the device page, see if its right
[13:43] <ikonia> keyUp: sorry that was for KingTarqo
[13:43] <ikonia> Kimmen: even
[13:43] <shaosin> Hi there, i am using putty, to acess ubuntu, and i installed teamviewer 6, now on putty, how do i start the application???
[13:44] <ikonia> shaosin: team viewer is a gui application isn't it
[13:44] <shaosin> dunno
[13:44] <shaosin> im new at ubuntu
[13:44] <sar_> ya....
[13:44] <Zealous> yep
[13:44] <keyUp> ikonia, i am not sure your question, I delete all eth connections then conect directly motorola surfboard sb5101E into my laptop it makes new conection with auto dhcp it pulls correct static ip that isp gave me ect
[13:44] <shaosin> last nigth, i was at home, and started the teamviewer, but i was there with the server
[13:44] <keyUp> but I cant even open modem page or I cant even open any page
[13:44] <shaosin> now, i am at work, and accessing via putty
[13:44] <keyUp> however i can ping 8.8.8.8..
[13:44] <helloer> ohsix: hmm, no sound
[13:44] <ikonia> shaosin: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/index.aspx
[13:44] <benzaldehyde> ikonia: what's gong on brudda
[13:45] <sar_> putty??
[13:45] <keyUp> it is ubuntu problem with motorola surfboard sb5101E 100% believe me if you don't bet with me on 100$ i will apy paypal if i lose if you lose you dont pay me anything
[13:45] <ohsix> helloer: try unmuting it and turning it up :] (after checking the applet)
[13:45] <lilstevie> 0.o
[13:45] <keyUp> its your chace to get 100$ i am VERY serious
[13:45] <keyUp> 2 days im stucked with this
[13:45] <Kimmen> keyUp: you shouldn't be able to access modem page when connecting to your modem since it's in bridged mode
[13:45] <shaosin> ikonia it was running yesterday, but since i restarted PC, teamviewer is now off, i just need to know, how top execute it, via putty
[13:45] <Zealous> lol keyup
[13:45] <Abhijit> shaosin, you dont need putty etc to use teamviewr. just run teamiver on both computers. and enter the id and pass of target pc on source pc . thats it
[13:45] <ikonia> shaosin: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/index.aspx
[13:45] <iceroot> ikonia: 5 minutes as i told you!!!
[13:45] <ohsix> Kimmen: you can access it, i have the same modem
[13:45] <Abhijit> iceroot, lol :-D
[13:46] <ohsix> Kimmen: isp sets default route through modem :P it responds to 192
[13:46] <shaosin> Abhijit i know, but the thing is, i restarted pc, and now, i need to start the program at home, and i have acess only via putty at home rigth now
[13:46] <keyUp> now motorola surfboard sb5101E is connecte to my router and my router to my laptop and everything is fine i have net and i can  open modem page
[13:46] <ikonia> keyUp: stop
[13:46] <keyUp> ok
[13:46] <Zealous> as Abhijit saud just go team view to team view cut out putty all togeather that is what the program is for
[13:46] <Kimmen> really? then the modem can't be in bridged mode, or the management interface is on the internets and I should be able to access it
[13:46] <Abhijit> shaosin, oh okay. then i dont know. see the teamvier documentatioon at their website
[13:46] <sar_> join #ubuntu
[13:46] <ikonia> keyUp: answer the question asked, nothing else
[13:46] <newbie01> I have taken a screenshot of a black and picture and enlarged it, the picture has become a bit blurry, is there a program in ubuntu which could sort this out easily. i.e. at a push of a button
[13:46] <keyUp> ikonia, can I pm you to not flood channel?
[13:46] <ikonia> keyUp: how did you setup your network card
[13:46] <Pici> sar_: You're already here.
[13:46] <helloer> ohsix: nothing, but mic working;P
[13:47] <ikonia> keyUp: please don't pm me, talk in the channel
[13:47] <shaosin> how to run a program via putty ?=
[13:47] <shaosin> its that i need
[13:47] <shaosin> :S
[13:47] <keyUp> I dont understand your question, i deleted all eth connections then connected directly my motorola surfboard sb5101E and new auto eth connection was made with auto dhcp
[13:47] <ohsix> Kimmen: there are two faces to the modem, one side faces the cpe like a switch port, the other side is on a private network for provisioning them
[13:47] <Zealous> C:Dos/Run Run/Dos/Run
[13:47] <ohsix> helloer: nothing in  the hardware tab?
[13:48] <keyUp> motorola surfboard sb5101E have very hard time connecting to my ubuntu directly, then when it  does i cant open modem page and i dont have internet, but it pulls right tatic ip address from my isp
[13:48] <Kimmen> ohsix: yes and I saw that keyUp got a public ip: 89.x.x.x
[13:48] <edbian> newbie01: You have a picture of what?
[13:48] <newbie01> I have taken a screenshot of a black and picture and enlarged it, the picture has become a bit blurry, is there a program in ubuntu which could sort this out easily. i.e. at a push of a button
[13:48] <Abhijit> !putty | shaosin
[13:48] <newbie01> A chemical reaction
[13:48] <ohsix> Kimmen: his computer did
[13:48] <helloer> ohsix: two devices
[13:48] <newbie01> sarcylic acid
[13:48] <Kimmen> ohsix: something is terribly wrong if your default route is on another l2 net than that 89.x network
[13:48] <ohsix> helloer: pick the one you want to make noises :D
[13:48] <edbian> newbie01: A screenshot of a black and picture?  (what does that mean?)
[13:48] <crazypeg> i have noticed that windows sometimes has trouble starting after i have been using my  usb ubuntu. Does anyone know how to prevent this?
[13:48] <helloer> ohsix: i pick but nothing :(
[13:49] <newbie01> picture = black and white, a screen shot of the chemical
[13:49] <sar_> has anbody using back track?
[13:49] <xangua> crazypeg: install ubuntu and deleter windows¿¿
[13:49] <ohsix> Kimmen: theres a route, and the default route; the default route is for traffic not claimed by that computer
[13:49] <shaosin> Abhijit i have ssh-server installed, and i have acess to server via putty, i just need to know, how to start the program via putty :S the command
[13:49] <Abhijit> sar_, #backtrack-linux
[13:49] <edbian> newbie01: You need to make the image bigger before you take the screenshot of it.  I don't believe there is any other way.
[13:49] <Abhijit> shaosin, i dont know. read the documentation on given links.
[13:49] <Kimmen> ohsix: yes, and that's generally on the same L2 network
[13:49] <Kimmen> else there's no go
[13:50] <van7hu> hello ubuntu
[13:50] <ohsix> Kimmen: just like you can have a 192 address machine on a 10. network, arp says where it is, it goes
[13:50] <newbie01> i.e. in gimp is there a function to clear up the picture i.e. remove the noise
[13:50] <sar_> thanks
[13:50] <Armiya> Hallo
[13:50] <Armiya> i am newby
[13:50] <edbian> newbie01: Yeah but you can't just zoom in on an image and 'enhance'
[13:50] <ohsix> Kimmen: your use of the term "l2" is indecipherable
[13:50] <Armiya> want t join with chanel Ubuntu
[13:51] <Kimmen> ohsix: put a machine with IP 192.168.1.100 on a 10.x network, def route 192.168.1.1 and see how that goes
[13:51] <Abhijit> hi Armiya
[13:51] <Abhijit> Armiya, you are inside ubuntu channel.
[13:51] <edbian> newbie01: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnhanceButton
[13:51] <Kimmen> L2 = subnet
[13:51] <ohsix> no :[
[13:51] <Armiya> i have a problem
[13:51] <Armiya> i wanna to ask u some thing
[13:51] <Kimmen> yes
[13:51] <Armiya> am i?
[13:51] <Abhijit> Armiya, ask with details in one line.
[13:51] <erUSUL> newbie01: i am sure there must be something in filters
[13:52] <ohsix> Kimmen: i've got a 10. network, and the modem is 192
[13:52] <van7hu> I have a virtual dos image (fat32),what I need to provide for '-t' for mount command to mount it?
[13:52] <newbie01> edbian, haha
[13:52] <ohsix> all this stuff seems rather confusing to you
[13:52] <newbie01> erUSUL, does anyone know which
[13:52] <steveyos> Hey I'm on ubuntu now, I can mount my windows 7 drive from /dev how?
[13:52] <Kimmen> ohsix: you need something that routes traffic between your 10.x net and the 192.x net
[13:53] <van7hu> steveyos: what ubuntu do you use?
[13:53] <ohsix> Kimmen: no, i don't, they're on the same segment
[13:53] <arand> steveyos: Usually it is simply a matter of clicking the disk in your file manager instead
[13:53] <steveyos> 10.10
[13:53] <Kimmen> ohsix: then you have one huge subnet
[13:53] <ohsix> but i don't
[13:53] <erUSUL> newbie01: Filter>Enhance category ?
[13:53] <van7hu> steveyos: if desktop,just in place in right-corner
[13:53] <arand> steveyos: Or did you install using the wubi windows installer?
[13:53] <Kimmen> ohsix: then something in your private net routes traffic between the subnets
[13:53] <ohsix> i have a def gw, and something on the way to the internet replying from 192
[13:54] <steveyos> Yeah I used the windows installer
[13:54] <newbie01> erUSUL, ill give it ago tks
[13:54] <Kimmen> ohsix: you can't get from one subnet to another without a router in between
[13:54] <ohsix> and?
[13:55] <steveyos> Should I just install from a dvd? How easy is it to lose your entire windows install nowadays from a dvd install of ubuntu?
[13:55] <Abhijit_> steveyos, if what windows is on same disk as this ubuntu then just click on windows partition name from Places menu. if its on external device just plug it in
[13:55] <edbian> steveyos: You can do it if you do something very wrong.
[13:55] <ohsix> what does this have to do with a bridging device also acting as some fixed devices on the same subnet
[13:55] <van7hu> steveyos: just read english and do carefully
[13:55] <ohsix> a managed switch will do the same thing
[13:55] <xangua> steveyos: if you make a partition for ubuntu, none
[13:55] <steveyos> Abhijit: It's not mounted
[13:56] <steveyos> Well ok but if I install from the dvd instead will windows automatically be mounted then?
[13:56] <Kimmen> ohsix: the point being that keyUp only had a public IP, i.e. to be able to connect to the modem the modem would have a public IP
[13:56] <arand> steveyos: What does the command "mount" output? (pastebin)
[13:56] <Kimmen> or firewalls from ISP
[13:56] <edbian> steveyos: INstall from the DVD as opposed to what?  (mounting windows has nothing to do with deleting it)
[13:56] <ohsix> Kimmen: no, there wouldn't
[13:57] <arand> steveyos: The host filesystem should be automonted and available in wubi as well...
[13:57] <crazypeg> i have noticed that windows sometimes has trouble starting after i have been using my  usb ubuntu. Does anyone know how to prevent this?
[13:57] <van7hu> steveyos: more advaned,read mount command
[13:58] <steveyos> here's the mount command: http://pastebin.com/mb3V7dCj
[13:58] <ohsix> Kimmen: its a bridge, think of eth over atm, except its a cable modem, one side is the bridging segment and theres no reason to give any user facing resources to the management side; they get unrestricted snmp and can actually manage the device on that network without exposing it to the bridge side
[13:59] <ohsix> consequently, i love cable; a bridge allows many shenanigans
[13:59] <arand> steveyos: Your windows filesystem should be mounted on /host according to that
[13:59] <arand> steveyos: See if you can browse to it?
[13:59] <Kimmen> ohsix: explain to me how the traffic flows if your default route is on another subnet than your own? (I hope we're talking about default route == gateway)
[13:59] <edbian> steveyos: You can't just type 'mount' you have to tell it to mount 'this' 'here'   Something like this: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[13:59] <dyd> hi all
[13:59] <arand> edbian: I requested it to se the current mount location.
[14:00] <steveyos> arand: where would it be? I don't see it anywhere
[14:00] <arand> edbian: Since the host fs is already mounted
[14:00] <edbian> arand: oops sorry
[14:00] <dyd> what is the /host/ubuntu/disks
[14:00] <dyd> ?
[14:00] <edbian> steveyos: ignore me
[14:00] <Armiya> any can help me
[14:00] <Kimmen> everything not on your subnet has to reach a gateway to be able to continue to another subnet
[14:00] <steveyos> edbian: ok :P
[14:00] <dyd> missed 1 part: root.disk
[14:00] <dyd> 19 gb file... what's that??
[14:00] <ohsix> Kimmen: the gw gets the traffic since it doesn't match the local segment, it goes through the bridge, bridge replies on the cpe side as if you contacted the _internet_ at the 192 address, and returns traffic as such (no mac address and stuff)
[14:00] <arand> steveyos: Go to "filesystem" in the file browser and the go to "host"
[14:00] <Armiya> any can hl me
[14:01] <Abhijit> Armiya, ask with details in one line.
[14:01] <arand> steveyos: alternatively "cd /host" in the terminal
[14:01] <sar_> like this : mkdir /windows/C  , mount /dev/sda1 /windows/C
[14:01] <sar_> good luck
[14:02] <steveyos> Guess what it's there, I never remember it being like that AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[14:02] <ohsix> Kimmen: its a fun trick anyone can do if they can inject frames into the network as a bridge can
[14:02] <Kimmen> ohsix: first modem I've encountered of that actually does this
[14:02] <benzaldehyde> steveyos: it was mounted all ready?
[14:02] <ohsix> i'm thinking of poisoning the gw and routing through yourself in particular
[14:02] <arand> steveyos: It is a common issue  with using wubi I think, the mount point is not particularly obvious
[14:02] <Kimmen> all others: what comes in goes out
[14:03] <steveyos> Yeah it was already mounted. So the wubi does change it? Because yeah I never remember it being so oddly placed
[14:03] <ohsix> Kimmen: thats really bizarre cuz it's worked like that since cablelabs first certified hardware
[14:03] <ohsix> specifically, what goes in goes over atm in a private network
[14:03] <Kimmen> has to be because I've never had to involve myself in atm and cable traffic =)
[14:03] <ohsix> i see
[14:04] <ohsix> people hate on atm but i dig how it works
[14:04] <arand> steveyos: Yes, wubi does that specifically, if you did a plain dual-boot it wouldn't be automonted, but available to mount in /media/ using a single click in the file browser, where also it would show up in the lfthand list as a filesystem.
[14:04] <Kimmen> I still believe that keyUps problem is hw related =)
[14:05] <ohsix> or its analogue (which might actually be atm) behind the bridge, i think it is after the concentrator, but not between the modem and the concentrator
[14:05] <ohsix> Kimmen: its probably all it could be besides user error
[14:05] <ikonia> ohsix: Kimmen you may want to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic as it looks intersting
[14:05] <benzaldehyde> Kimmen: what was he experiencing
[14:05] <steveyos> arand: Yeahhhh that's right, I wish they woulda told me that.... I guess it's all good though since at least it works, I just gotta write down the location now haha
[14:05] <ohsix> ikonia: you always chime in when i'm done :P
[14:05] <Kimmen> ohsix: probably much to do with error 40
[14:06] <ohsix> ikonia: i try hard to keep ot short, or somehwere else
[14:06] <steveyos> Thanks everyone I didn't even actually have a problem alright!
[14:06] <Kimmen> benzaldehyde: he couldn't access the internet when he connected his ubuntu laptop directly to his cable modem
[14:06] <Kimmen> 30-75% packet loss and excessive errors on eth0
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:08] <ohsix> Kimmen: as i mentioned it could be a negotiation problem too, but who knows; even he wasn't really interested
[14:08] <Pici> !ot
[14:10] <eamon> does anyone know what the "total memory" field in top rofers to cause the figure there is much larger than my physical memory
[14:10] <r41> hello, i have "quiet splash" in menu.lst but some output of init scripts is shown anyway, way to solve it?
[14:10] <marcin_> a
[14:11] <Zealous> hhmm this suxs downloaded a 64bit version of nessus and i can not install the 64bit version as it is AMD64 only while i have a i386 laptop, question is would the 32 bit i386 work just as well on the 64bit i386 laptop
[14:11] <ohsix> eamon: how much larger?
[14:12] <Kimmen> Zealous: AMD64 is for 64-bit processors, both intel and amd
[14:12] <ikonia> Zealous: you can't be running 64bit on a n i386 laptop
[14:12] <eamon> ohsix: I have 512 MB memory it's saying somewhere around 800 MB
[14:12] <Zealous> ikon i know the basics i just downloaded the wrong version being 64 bit laptop just relised the master computer is the AMD lol
[14:13] <ohsix> eamon: curious, what does free -m say?
[14:13] <ikonia> Zealous: ok, if you know the basics why are you asking about 64bit on an i386 laptop, you cannot run anything 64bit on an i386 laptop
[14:13] <ohsix> without qemu
[14:14] <Zealous> at least i am not asking how to install what i downloaded haha
[14:14] <benzaldehyde> ikonia: i think he was just curious whether the inverse is worth worrying about
[14:14] <eamon> ohsix: free -m says 498 MB and now top has fixed itself....
[14:15] <benzaldehyde> ikonia: 32bit software with 64bit processor and so forth
[14:15] <keltic_dave> is anyone available to give me some advice
[14:15] <angelo> hi how can i upgrade the php version of ubuntu to 5.3.3?
[14:15] <eamon> !ask | keltic_dave
[14:15] <edbian> Zealous: 32 bit os works fine on 64 bit hardware.  64bit os does NOT work on 32 bit hardware
[14:16] <edbian> keltic_dave: yes
[14:16] <benzaldehyde> Zealous: i don't know.
[14:16] <Zealous> edbian cheers i got it working now i just need to update and config the bugger
[14:16] <keltic_dave> I bought a compaq presario cq56 my problem is the function keys on the laptop don't work one of which is the wireless and it's currently disabled so I've been unable to connect to the internet with it
[14:16] <edbian> Zealous: :)
[14:16] <benzaldehyde> edbian: i suspected
[14:16] <edbian> benzaldehyde: suspected... correctly!
[14:17] <eamon> !wifi | keltic_dave
[14:17] <benzaldehyde> edbian: i do enjoy being correct
[14:17] <edbian> keltic_dave: What other fn function don't work?
[14:17] <edbian> benzaldehyde: :)  haha
[14:17] <keltic_dave> none at all
[14:17] <Zealous> here we go i got a simple question what does linux use for a email client aka the windows outlook :P
[14:17] <ohsix> keltic_dave: what version of ubuntu? if its 10.10 it should work; i have comprable hardware, but theres also the wireless backports
[14:17] <edbian> keltic_dave: what does sudo iwlist scan output?
[14:17] <keltic_dave> none of the F1 to f12 function keys do
[14:17] <eamon> Zealous: kmail
[14:17] <ikonia> Zealous: there are numerous available
[14:17] <Zealous> cheers eamon
[14:17] <eamon> Zealous: thunderbird
[14:17] <keltic_dave> 10.10
[14:17] <ikonia> Zealous: depends on the desktop, but still many options
[14:17] <edbian> Zealous: There are options.  evolution, thunderbird, kmail etc etc
[14:18] <Zealous> i am running backtrack 4
[14:18] <Zealous> i am sure i will sort it
[14:18] <eamon> Zealous: thunderbird comes from the saem people that make firefox
[14:18] <ohsix> Zealous: "most" people use mutt, grandmas & normal people use evolution, or something like it
[14:18] <heart_hacker> join #fvfreeloaders
[14:18] <Zealous> eamon that sold me firefox FTW
[14:18] <ohsix> Zealous: just a heads up, backtrack isn't supported here
[14:18] <eamon> Zealous: FTW indeed
[14:19] <eamon> !backtrack
[14:19] <keltic_dave> I'll just put it in one second
[14:19] <edbian> keltic_dave: The suspense is killing me
[14:19] <Zealous> i am not asking about it, i had it on the usb stick so i figured screw windows i am replacing you with a distro
[14:20] <keltic_dave> you want me to copy and paste it in here
[14:20] <keltic_dave> or is there a specific one you are wanting me to find
[14:20] <edbian> keltic_dave: no, use pastebin (or just briefly describe it)  www.pastebin.ubuntu.com
[14:20] <edbian> keltic_dave: A specific one?  I'm trying to see the output of one command.  sudo iwlist scan
[14:21] <edbian> keltic_dave: Sorry, bad link.  paste.ubuntu.com
[14:21] <benzaldehyde> Zealous: i use webmail. it's convenient.
[14:21] <ohsix> keltic_dave: even if the buttons don't work you can still see if the wifi is blocked with "sudo rfkill list" in a terminal
[14:21] <benzaldehyde> Zealous: but then i'm more of your desktop non power user
[14:22] <jayant> hello i am running ubuntu 10.10 and i use sakis3g to connect to internet. Empathy and pidgin are not able to use my internet. They say "no network connection" while i am using X-chat right now and it is working fine. Can somebody help me with that please. Thank You !
[14:22] <keltic_dave> :P I did a restart and my wired connection worked just installed the additional driver for the wireless
[14:22] <keltic_dave> function keys still don't work but wireless is
[14:24] <benzaldehyde> keltic_dave: that is good news
[14:24] <haqe17> Hi, im logging into my ubuntu machine remotely (via ssh) , and im trying to play some music on the servers speakers, it works as root but not as a normal user. what do I need to change?
[14:25] <edbian> keltic_dave: That was the hard part ;)   Can you set up the key to work using System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts  ??
[14:25] <wookienz> hi, if i drop a script inside cron.d dir, when does cron look ofr it and execute it?
[14:25] <chipmank> msg NickServ identify theodore
[14:25] <benzaldehyde> chipmank: you might want to change your password
[14:26] <chipmank> well that did'nt work :)
[14:26] <haqe17> chipmank: lol, i think u outo change
[14:26] <jrib> wookienz: you don't drop scripts there.  Why aren't you using crontab via the « crontab -e » command?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> chipmank, do that in the server textbox
[14:26] <chipmank> u guys were'nt supposed to see that
[14:26] <iceroot> wookienz: cron looks every minute in that dir if something is to do NOW
[14:26] <chipmank> have no server textbox
[14:27] <wookienz> jrib: old install of apt-mirror - windering if it still works!
[14:27] <benzaldehyde> chipmank: the eviler side of me wants to /msg NickServ ghost chipman theodore
[14:27] <BluesKaj> chipmank, in the freenoce textbox
[14:27] <benzaldehyde> chipmank: i won't though
[14:27] <BluesKaj> freenode
[14:28] <benzaldehyde> chipmank: just out of curiosity why theodore
[14:28] <edbian> benzaldehyde: baseball and passw0rd where already taken
[14:28] <jrib> wookienz: right, that makes sense... /etc/cron.d is the nice place for packages to place cron jobs.  cron watches that directory for changes (see « man cron »)
[14:28] <chipmank> firstname is alvin
[14:29] <BluesKaj> alvin and the chipmunks ...we get it
[14:29] <jrib> choosing theodore as a password with username of chipmank doesn't seem very smart though...
[14:29] <wookienz> jrib: the cron job runs apt-mirror, should i be able to see the process running through ps aux?
[14:30] <jayant> empathy and pidgin cannot use my internet. Empathy says: "No Network Connection" and pidgin says "Waiting for network connection". somebody help please
[14:30] <benzaldehyde> jrib: it really doesn'y
[14:30] <benzaldehyde> *doesn't
[14:30] <BluesKaj> chip did you choose the freenode / server in the tree/tab , chipmank ?
[14:31] <jrib> wookienz: well if it's running, you would see it running.  You could check for mail from cron too (you need an mta though)
[14:31] <edbian> chipmank is my word of the day today
[14:31] <ohsix> haqe17: if you're not having anyone logon locally, add the user to the audio group, but if people are logging on locally that will break things
[14:32] <haqe17> ohsix: well i am having people log on locally...
[14:33] <ohsix> haqe17: then run something as the logged on user to play music :P or have their pulse server listen for connections and use PULSE_SERVER
[14:33] <wookienz> jrib: yes i see it is running now with two ssh windows open to check. looks like cron is not liking the script then, as cron wont run it, but m,anually invoking it does.
[14:38] <benzaldehyde> i think i've been disconnected
[14:38] <nmvictor> My root partition is running out of space and I just noticed that my /usr/ directory is eating up 6GB of the root partition. I want to have another partition maunt as /usr,  any chance I could achieve this?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> benzaldehyde, I see you :)
[14:39] <edbian> nmvictor: Yes.  Everything folder could be it's own partition.  You could also just grow /
[14:39] <benzaldehyde> BluesKaj: just to be clear, i was 'itching' my nose
[14:39] <jink> nmvictor: If you have space left on some disk, you could partition / format that, and mount it, copy all the data, etc, etc.  Or just grow / if it's on the same disk.
[14:39] <sky1> Has someone practical experience with Request Tracker?
[14:40] <jink> sky1: Too vague.
[14:40] <Zealous> still converting..... In windows you press Windows Key and M to minimize all windows to show the desktop. What is the linux version of this?
[14:40] <wookienz> what is the t at the end of the permissions? dwrx.....t ?
[14:41] <sky1> @jink: do you know an extension which is called rt-form-tools ?
[14:41] <Zealous> taffy
[14:41] <Zealous> Permission to eat Taffy while on nix
[14:41] <Zealous> I like taffy
[14:41] <Kimmen> Zealous: you can set that hotkey yourself
[14:41] <jink> sky1: No. :)
[14:42] <benzaldehyde> Zealous: I did not know that, too bad my windows keyboard is destroyed--i sprayed it with windex :3
[14:42] <chipmonk> an running samba and sharing a internet connection with this computer if i start a video on this machine and connect cable for share computer locks up
[14:42] <Zealous> Benza i was just looking at my keyboard and was wondering why is there a winblows icon on the key could there not be a tux instead
[14:43] <sipior> wookienz: it's the "sticky" bit, restricting deletion of files to their owners only.
[14:43] <tonsofpcs> Zealous: it's winkey+d on windows...
[14:43] <Zealous> So there is linux built keyboards are there
[14:43] <nmvictor> jink: growing / would be my most preferred option although in my case i doubt if its possible, I have / as the only partition, the other partitions are on the Extended partition with only 5gb free in this extended partition, is it possible to grow the / partition with the 5gb free in the extended partition?
[14:43] <Kimmen> Zealous: in gnome it's Alt+F9
[14:43] <sipior> wookienz: commonly set for /tmp, for example.
[14:43] <wookienz> sipior: thanks
[14:43] <BluesKaj> nmvictor, my / partition is 14G and there's about 7.6G being used so 15G should b e plenty
[14:43] <tonsofpcs> Zealous: I have a home key on my keyboard...
[14:43] <Kimmen> sry, that was only current window =)
[14:43] <sky1> @jjink : damn .. anyway thnx
[14:43] <Zealous> tonsofpc's i am a windows user and it is win+m test it
[14:43] <arand> Zealous: crtl+alt+d
[14:43] <Zealous> cheers all once again
[14:44] <jink> sky1: It's still too vague, though.  If you have an actual question, go ahead and ask it.
[14:44] <Zealous> OMG Arand is a nix addict Wooo
[14:44] <ACXTG> hi
[14:44] <Zealous> cheers mate
[14:44] <pratheep> hi everybody
[14:44] <pratheep> checking for LIBXML2... configure: error: Package requirements (libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.0) were not met:
[14:44] <pratheep> No package 'libxml-2.0' found
[14:44] <pratheep> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[14:44] <FloodBot3> pratheep: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <pratheep> so can i fix my proplem
[14:45] <ohsix> pratheep: install the -dev package
[14:45] <pratheep> i install comp..
[14:45] <pratheep> but
[14:45] <nmvictor> BluesKaj: guess that depends with what one does with their linux box, I have netbeans, monodevelop and much developmet stuff so that explains my need for more space, a Gamer with games like Arena wjich take up 300MB disk space wouldn't give your report either.
[14:45] <gribouille> hi
[14:46] <sky1> @jjik: Is it possible to mail an form template for a ticket mask into request tracker ? ......
[14:46] <pratheep> i it can't found.
[14:46] <Zealous> never heard of arena any good?
[14:46] <Kimmen> pratheep: run: "sudo apt-get install libxml2"
[14:46] <sky1> @jink
[14:46] <nmvictor> so I'd narror down my quiestion to thus, is it possible to grow my primary root partition with free space from the extended partition?
[14:46] <benzaldehyde> Zealous: who?
[14:47] <pratheep> Kimmen: wait a minute
[14:47] <nmvictor> any filesystem nerds here? Look at my previous post
[14:47] <pratheep> Kimmen: it have areadly
[14:47] <Zealous> nmvictor mention there was a game called arena and it would be nice to test the gfx on nix
[14:48] <Kimmen> pratheep: then install libxml2-dev
[14:48] <nmvictor> Is it possible to grow my primary root partition with free space from the extended partition?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> nmvictor, I don't see whynot
[14:48] <V01> nmvictor, reformat it completely :P
[14:48] <pratheep> Kimmen: ok .  moment
[14:48] <beli> hi there. does someone else have problem with nvidia drivers under 10.10? i got artefacts/plugin crashs when using flash under firefox. when i disable the nvidia drivers, everything seems ok.
[14:48] <nmvictor> V01: tht be mad of me
[14:49] <pratheep> kIMMEN: IT HAVE TOO
[14:49] <sky1> @jjnk: Is it possible to mail an form template for a ticket mask into request tracker ? ......
[14:49] <V01> nmvictor, the gparted shud help you actually
[14:49] <chipmonk> beli are you using current driver for old card?
[14:49] <pratheep> Kimmen : it show ok thk...and it have another to download..
[14:50] <Kimmen> pratheep: what are you trying to install?
[14:50] <jalmeida> is there any algorithm to analyze images?
[14:51] <chipmonk> i have a computer with a 7300le and twinview works only when in find the older driver
[14:51] <jalmeida> for example satellite images
[14:51] <sipior> jalmeida: yes.
[14:51] <jalmeida> i need a tutorial
[14:52] <jalmeida> =)
[14:52] <pratheep> Kimmer: i want to make file it command to compline program at sourc code....
[14:52] <zeld> hi all
[14:52] <zeld> i've a problem with my ubuntu and screen resolution
[14:52] <pratheep> Kimmer: it a program to update blog .. wp.
[14:52] <jalmeida> sipior, where?
[14:52] <zeld> i've a monitor 22' with 1920x1080 screen resolution
[14:52] <sipior> jalmeida: where what?
[14:53] <zeld> if i try to set this by xrandr it's not working
[14:54] <chipmonk> zeld are they any drivers around for your video card?  x does not like screen that big
[14:54] <benzaldehyde> zeld: just to be clear are you saying you have a 22 foot monitor?
[14:54] <Zealous> lol
[14:54] <jalmeida> sipior, i'm searching a tutorial about image analize
[14:54] <Zealous> i got a 22 foot penis i use as a belt but no 22ft monitor haha
[14:55] <zeld> my video card is nVidia Corporation Device 1200
[14:55] <zeld> and the video driver is the nouveau
[14:55] <jalmeida> do you know about it?
[14:55] <zeld> benzaldehyde: yes
[14:55] <Zealous> just think 6.7 meters monitor
[14:55] <medfly> how do I change the behaviour of sound keys?
[14:55] <benzaldehyde> zeld: seriously?
[14:55] <zeld> i've a monitor 22 foot with maximum screen resolution 1980x1080 pixel
[14:55] <zeld> benzaldehyde: lol :D n o
[14:55] <zeld> it's impossible
[14:56] <benzaldehyde> zeld: it is possible with a projector
[14:56] <zeld> is 21''
[14:56] <Zealous> man that would be over sized LCD if anything
[14:56] <Shyster> i have a 12 foot monitor
[14:56] <Shyster> :)
[14:56] <zeld> benzaldehyde: you are OT
[14:56] <sipior> jalmeida: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_analysis
[14:56] <benzaldehyde> zeld: i see
[14:56] <Shyster> when i use my projector
[14:56] <zeld> no no :D is not a projector :D
[14:56] <Shyster> :)
[14:56] <medfly> heh. it does bring up questions about penis size vs. monitor size
[14:56] <zeld> lol :D
[14:56] <zeld> so...
[14:56] <jalmeida> sipior, thenks =)
[14:56] <jalmeida> thanks
[14:57] <beli> chipmonk: i am using current driver for nvidia mobile g310, dunno if its >old< or not :)=
[14:58] <chipmonk> how old is computer?
[14:58] <beli> chipmonk: i get pixel artefacts ...notebook is about 1 year old
[14:58] <rohit64> guys, i need to install the Terminal all the time as a root in my Maverick 10.10
[14:59] <rohit64> is here anybody know any one?
[14:59] <rohit64> please let me know
[14:59] <benzaldehyde> rohit64: can you make a little more sense
[14:59] <zeld> my problem is that it's impossible to set or get the best screen configuration
[14:59] <zeld> i followed this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[14:59] <magnushc> Should the beta be released now?
[14:59] <zeld> abnd i tried to add a newmode but it's not working
[15:00] <zeld> how can i try to reset all the screen etc??
[15:00] <zeld> or reconfigure the monitor recognition?
[15:00] <zeld> also....
[15:00] <rohit64> benzaldehyde, I neet a console which would never ask me to enter root's password..
[15:00] <chipmonk> beli have you checked for updated driver or  previous version
[15:00] <iceroot> rohit64: you dont need that
[15:00] <rohit64> iceroot, why?
[15:00] <benzaldehyde> rohit64: have you tried sudo su
[15:00] <chipmonk> have you worked with the xconfig.org file?
[15:01] <beli> chipmonk:  i am using driver  from repo...with the 10.04 driver it worked well
[15:01] <zeld> also if i tell the error to Xorg.0.log it says to me [drm] failed to open device
[15:01] <iceroot> rohit64: its a stupid ieda
[15:01] <zeld> but a device named /dev/fb0
[15:01] <iceroot> rohit64: and not needed
[15:01] <zeld> :|
[15:01] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: sudo su is the wrong way
[15:01] <rohit64> benzaldehyde, yepp but it should start with roots privileges
[15:01] <lacus> rohit64: sounds like you can add a NOPASSWD to your /etc/sudoers, i guess?
[15:01] <rohit64> i know its risky but, i need it
[15:02] <zmbi> why?
[15:02] <chipmonk> hmm
[15:02] <iceroot> rohit64: and why you need it?
[15:02] <jrib> !away > AlleinStein{a}
[15:02] <rohit64> im working on a project its sniffer, needs the roots authentication all the time when i compile it
[15:03] <chipmonk> what will it not do beli?
[15:03] <zmbi> then sudo bash and work from there
[15:03] <panike> window move down
[15:04] <jrib> please stop telling people to use "sudo su" or "sudo bash", use "sudo -i" if you really need some sort of root shell
[15:04] <panike> /w/window move down
[15:04] <rohit64> which is the right way?
[15:04] <ohsix> or sudo -s if you're not hip to writing utmp for every shell
[15:05] <beli> chipmonk: how do i tell ubuntu to stick with a 10.04 package? do i have do install it manually and then mark it as sticky?
[15:05] <chipmonk> actually gksudo if and gui interfaces
[15:05] <BluesKaj> rohit64, one uses a combo of alias commands and sudoers file edits to do what you want
[15:05] <kz3> how to install a tar.gz file in ubuntu? someone please teach me
[15:05] <rohit64> thnak you guys..
[15:05] <littlebobby> hi, is there a way to recover the last password-hash from /etc/shadow after resetting the password with sudo passwd <user>?
[15:06] <chipmonk> beli system addtl drivers
[15:06] <jrib> kz3: I think I saw you being given the answer to your question at least 3 times yesterday.
[15:06] <ohsix> littlebobby: no
[15:06] <beli> kz3: tar.gz in common contains source code
[15:06] <beli> kz3: what are you trying to install?
[15:06] <beli> chipmonk: thanks
[15:07] <kz3> jrib I have been trying to install by the method which one of the user suggested but it isnt working for me or maybe I am not able to understand it well. Sorry for that
[15:07] <jrib> kz3: what exactly do you want to install?
[15:07] <kz3> beli: I wanna install Eclipse
[15:07] <kz3> for C++ development now Java
[15:07] <gribouille> how can I change the terminal settings to use another charset than UTF8 ?
[15:07] <jrib> kz3: eclipse is in the repositories.  Use Software Center
[15:07] <jrib> !software | kz3
[15:08] <littlebobby> ohsix: darn. my brother lost his passwd, when we changed it, only then did we realize that his home-dir is encrypted with ecrypts... no I thought about cracking the passphrase, but whoops, old password-hash is gone ;-/
[15:08] <zmbi> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[15:08] <kz3> jrib I have installed eclipse from Ubuntu Software centre but its an IDE for Java not for C++
[15:08] <gizida> try eclipse-cdt
[15:09] <sipior> littlebobby: perhaps you have a backup?
[15:09] <compdoc> do they always wait until the end of the month to release the new ubuntu?
[15:09] <ohsix> littlebobby: you can try unlocking his keyring with his old password ... or not, that was in the home dir
[15:09] <lacus> jrib: nice trick with the sudo -i
[15:09] <iceroot> compdoc: no
[15:09] <iceroot> compdoc: its done when its done
[15:09] <compdoc> hmmm, Ive heard that before
[15:09] <littlebobby> sipior: I don't think he has one, meh... only minutes ago the hash would have done. that sucks
[15:10] <iceroot> kz3: eclipse is an ide for everything you just need the correct plugins
[15:10]  * sipior is pretty sure encrypted home directories have kept more legitimate users from their files than any putative attackers.
[15:10] <ohsix> it does suck but thats one of the implications when you do it
[15:10] <jrib> littlebobby: but he wrote down the mount passphrase right...?
[15:11] <benzaldehyde> How can i read PDF documents without Adobe Reader? i'm on PowerPC
[15:11] <ohsix> sipior: people think its cool, you're probably not wrong
[15:11] <littlebobby> jrib: well no, because that used to be the usual login-password, as in: it was transparent
[15:11] <popey> benzaldehyde: evince
[15:11] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: evince
[15:11] <benzaldehyde> thank you thank you
[15:11] <jrib> littlebobby: huh?
[15:11] <littlebobby> jrib: the passphrase to mount was the login-pw
[15:11] <ohsix> littlebobby: i think he's implying you mount it by hand with the old passphrase
[15:12] <jrib> littlebobby: are you saying https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Mount%20Passphrase doesn't apply?
[15:12] <newbie01> are people paid by canonical to be here
[15:12] <jrib> newbie01: no
[15:12] <ohsix> newbie01: no
[15:12] <sipior> newbie01: sadly, no :-)
[15:12] <DJones> newbie01: Pretty much all volunteers
[15:13] <littlebobby> jrib: we've tried that but for that to work he would have to know his old password, right? the old password is lost though
[15:13] <jrib> littlebobby: ah, I see.
[15:13] <newbie01> community spirit
[15:13]  * BluesKaj wonders where his paycheque is going
[15:13] <jrib> littlebobby: but at some point you're told (or were in the past at least) to record the mount passphrase in a safe place...
[15:13] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:14] <Zealous> just use a cd key for a pwd they are secure haha
[15:15] <littlebobby> jrib: yeah well :-) my idea was to crack the old /etc/shadow-hash, but that is gone now. if I understand correctly, cracking the passphrase is impossible
[15:15] <littlebobby> the ecryptfs-passphrase I mean
[15:15] <edwinkcw> does empathy support file transfer?
[15:16] <jrib> littlebobby: check /var/backups/shadow.bak and /etc/shadow- for differences I guess... otherwise I'd say you're sol
[15:16] <littlebobby> jrib: thanks
[15:17] <ohsix> littlebobby: unless the password was like "dog" or something in the dictionary it's still pretty much going to be out of reach
[15:18] <ohsix> and they're salted, so no cheating and buying a few tb of rainbow tables ;]
[15:19] <Shyster> ohsix: whats salted?
[15:20] <ohsix> Shyster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_%28cryptography%29
[15:21] <ikke2> huhu
[15:21] <zeld> what driver need my monitor videocard? 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1200 (rev a1)
[15:21] <ines> slt
[15:21] <ohsix> basically they mix the pass with a one way function, then store the input to that function in the salt so the whole output can be reproduced later to check it
[15:22] <ikke2> any german here ??
[15:22] <ikke2> es geht um newsgroups
[15:22] <Logan_> !de | ikke2
[15:22] <ikke2> kann mir jemand helfen ??
[15:22] <ohsix> zeld: is the "Additional drivers" applet trying to offer drivers to install for it?
[15:22] <ines> salut les ubuteros :)
[15:23] <OerHeks> !de | ikke2
[15:23] <Shyster> ohsix: oh ok its basicly a random type of encryption to prevent it from being cracked... so only choice is a bruteforce lol
[15:23] <zmbi> hallo ikke2
  has sayed to me   thx   :)
[15:23] <zeld> ohsix: mmm no
[15:23] <Meelu> you bun too? yes i do
[15:23] <littlebobby> jrib: seems like we've got the old hash, yay
[15:24] <jrib> littlebobby: heh, consolation prize
[15:24] <ikke2> ikke2 has changed 2 ubuntu-de
[15:24] <ines> hi
[15:24] <ohsix> Shyster: well, you need to try the one way function every time you check the password, that's the part that makes a rainbow table untenable
[15:25] <ohsix> since the salt would be in the table, but it REALLY IS random
[15:25] <ohsix> (or some computer-y approximation of random)
[15:25] <jrib> littlebobby: though if you have some idea about how your brother creates passwords I guess it could be feasible...  I forgot a password once, tried to do a similar thing and had my computer running many nights.  In the end I gave up, then one day a few weeks later I was cooking and the password jumped into my head.  I tried it, and it worked :)
[15:25] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: heh wait for quantum computing.......
[15:26] <ines> hey i use ubutu10.10 have u the same problem with skype?
[15:26] <foo-nix> I have this code which should make the height of some div's qual to their parrent: http://pastie.org/1739574
[15:26] <bin_bash> Hey all
[15:26] <foo-nix> excuse me, wrong channel :(
[15:26]  * jrib nods at foo-nix
[15:26] <Shyster> ohsix: k.. btw im new to linux... im at work an have nothing better to do but set around an read the problems people are having so maybe i can learn a bit eh? lol
[15:26] <ohsix> ines: what problem, my mom uses it all the time
[15:26] <bin_bash> I want to back up my entire linux partition (I'm using 10.04) do I want to do a clone or do I want to do a disk image?
[15:27] <aeon-ltd> bin_bash: same thing really if its just / and not /home
[15:27] <mu3en> bib_bash: partimage?
[15:27] <bin_bash> Yeah I want to back up the entire partition
[15:27] <bin_bash> Not just the home folder
[15:27] <ohsix> what do you want to do with the backups?
[15:27] <ines> i coudn't use the video conference
[15:27] <bin_bash> ohsix: Restore once I reformat
[15:28] <ohsix> cuz you can image the partition, use the fs' dump tool, or just tar it up
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> bin_bash: / including /home, i'd clone with something like clonezilla
[15:28] <bin_bash> aeon-ltd: I'm going to use dd
[15:28] <mu3en> bin_bash: partimage works well and doesn't make huge images, restores good to a same or larger aprtition later
[15:28] <ohsix> bin_bash: ah, then using the filesystems dump tool, then restoring it later might save you a lot of time
[15:28] <bin_bash> ohsix: filesystems dump tool?
[15:29] <ohsix> bin_bash: like dumpe2fs or xfsdump
[15:29] <mu3en> can easily shuffle osx/win/multi-linux-distros around drives and do boot sector backups
[15:30] <bin_bash> Okay thanks. bbiab
[15:35] <littlebobby> jrib: okay, I've got the passphrase, at least
[15:36] <littlebobby> and I probably know the first 3 letters
[15:36] <bilalo> what is the last version of ubuntu os?
[15:36] <Combatjuan> I'd like to set up my own apt-get repository.  It would only have custom builds of a few packages.  My searches have only yielded information on setting up mirrors.  Can someone point me to a guide or am I asking for nonsense?
[15:37] <ayecee> bilalo: the most recent version is 10.10. A new release, 11.04, is due at the end of april.
[15:37] <bilalo> ayecee Good
[15:37] <jrib> Combatjuan: you don't want to create a PPA?
[15:38] <bilalo> ubuntu notebook edition?
[15:38] <bilalo> now is available
[15:38] <Combatjuan> jrib: I don't know.  I want it to be private and local.
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> Combatjuan: and you want it to hold only your custom packages, or you want it to also mirror things ?
[15:39] <Shyster> anyone know any programs to encrypt a jump drive?
[15:39] <Combatjuan> Pumpkin-: Just my own packages.
[15:39] <milamber> Comatjuan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[15:40] <jrib> Combatjuan: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository
[15:40] <Combatjuan> milamber, jrib:  Thank you.
[15:40] <Pumpkin-> those. You *MAY* also be interested in apt-proxy / apt-cache, even though they don't do what you are wanting, I'm guessing they might be interesting for you.
[15:40] <pyh> hi,everybody
[15:41] <aeon-ltd> hi doctor nick
[15:41] <Zealous> cream in my pants ubuntu finished downloading
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> Zealous:  and the next r3elease is just next month... :)
[15:42] <milamber> inflammable means flammable, who knew?
[15:42] <aeon-ltd> Dr_Willis: hours of fun w/updates :)
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> milamber:  err.. most people? :)
[15:42] <Zealous> WooP
[15:42] <aeon-ltd> milamber: :)
[15:42] <alles-wird-gut> und wie kann ich 2 Zeilen die untereinander stehen zu einer zusammenfügen?
[15:42] <Zealous> will the update go on top or would i need to redo everything i hope the update in friendly
[15:43] <milamber> thanks aeon-ltd
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> Zealous:  you can 'upgrade'
[15:43] <Zealous> Thanks Dr
[15:43] <aeon-ltd> !de | alles-wird-gut
[15:44] <alles-wird-gut> sorry wrong channel :/
[15:45]  * kirilos_AwAy is away: Gone away for now
[15:45] <jrib> !away > kirilos_AwAy
[15:46] <SN4K3> how much ram does your system use currently?
[15:47] <aeon-ltd> SN4K3: was that to everyone?, if so please don't run polls
[15:48] <Cronecker> Is the iso for natty beta1 out yet?
[15:48] <Cronecker> I was thinking of trying it out.
[15:48] <ablmf> I installed 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit laptop by mistake.  Should I re-install it?
[15:49] <Cronecker> ablmf: It rarely matters.
[15:49] <jayant> How can i make seamonkey my default web browser ?
[15:49] <azm> Hi is there some songbird like player on linux?
[15:49] <azm> I know I used it
[15:49] <azm> but now I see its just for wimdows/mac
[15:49] <dasunsrule32> What would be the best way to get a list of packages installed on an old hard drive that was used in my previous laptop that died?
[15:49] <milamber> ablmf: how much ram?
[15:50] <aeon-ltd> azm: yeah songbird for linux, the project got axed
[15:50] <jrib> !clone | dasunsrule32
[15:50] <jrib> dasunsrule32: you can chroot to that install and do the above
[15:50] <pratheep> yah..
[15:50] <azm> aeon-ltd, ah, well do you know some alternative which have folder playlist function ?
[15:50] <Cronecker> milamber: Isn't the ubuntu default kernel PAE enabled though?
[15:51] <Cronecker> Hmm, it seems there are no beta images yet.
[15:51] <lun0> ablmf: if have 4GB of ram or more then install 64bit, otherwise doesn't matter
[15:51] <linux_> where can download ubuntu 11 04 ..
[15:51] <Cronecker> Is the alpha image ok to use?
[15:51] <Cronecker> I assume it just updates nicely.
[15:51] <dasunsrule32> jrib: I was thinking chroot, just wanted to verify
[15:51] <airstrike> or just install 32bit anyway cause everything always breaks in 64bit
[15:51] <dasunsrule32> Thanks :)
[15:51] <linux_> where can download ubuntu 11 04 ..
[15:51] <lun0> linux_: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Ubuntu-Natty-Narwhal-62881.shtml
[15:51] <milamber> Cronecker: it is supposed to be if it detects more than 3gigs of ram.
[15:51] <Logan_> !natty | linux_
[15:52] <aeon-ltd> azm: non that i know of
[15:52] <milamber> Cronecker: but it's also good for a teach to fish convo
[15:52] <jackt> Where i can find out how to install ubuntu on asus netbook where already installed win7?
[15:52] <AceKing> I just replaced my motherboard with an MSI K9N6PGM2 -V2 and I am trying to install Lucid. I tried 3 times to install the O/S. After it installs and starts up, I get a "Broken Package" error. The package that is giving the error is libc6. I tried going into Synaptic Package manager, Custom Filters, and removing the packages, but it says it will render the system inoperable. Any ideas?
[15:52] <linux_> want beta
[15:52] <lun0> jackt: just insert ubuntu cd and follow steps
[15:52] <linux_> i want beta 1
[15:52] <maxsaniel> s there any software like AutoCad to linux?
[15:52] <Cronecker> milamber: Teach to fish convo?
[15:52] <jrib> AceKing: run "check the cd for defects" before installing
[15:52] <lun0> linux_: use google
[15:52] <crazypeg> does anyone know of a good free snippet library software?
[15:52] <Cronecker> linux_: I'm also looking for it, doesn't seem to be here yet.
[15:53] <AceKing> jrib, I did that, and I also ran it off of a USB drive
[15:53] <MournsForTrees> When is Ubuntu 11.04 coming out exactly or where can I find that information?
[15:53] <jrib> MournsForTrees: #ubuntu+1
[15:53] <jrib> AceKing: and?
[15:53] <milamber> explaining what the difference btw 32 and 64 bit operating systems and why the question: "how much ram do you have?" matters.
[15:53] <linux_> cronecker if it there you install it
[15:53] <MournsForTrees> jrib: thanks. :)
[15:54] <AceKing> jrib, same thing. One of the times the top panel was having errors and some of the items wouldn't appear
[15:54] <jrib> AceKing: when you ran "check the cd for defects" what happened?
[15:54] <Polah> Whenever I try to boot I get a message from GRUB saying that it cannot find /, retrying after this loads the system fine. Could this be an issue with GRUB loading up before the rest of the system files on that drive?
[15:54] <AceKing> jrib, it was ok
[15:54] <jrib> AceKing: what version of ubuntu is this?
[15:55] <AceKing> jrib, 10.10
[15:55] <jrib> AceKing: does the install complete without issue?
[15:56] <AceKing> jrib, this time it did, but last time it didn't.
[15:56] <AceKing> jrib, brand new hdd and ram
[15:56] <jrib> AceKing: umm, ok.   Pastebin the exact error
[15:56] <ohsix> milamber: the only practical difference is you have to manually install the 64bit flash player plugin, cuz the ndiswrapper one is unusable, and as to the ram question, there is a low watermark on how acceptably something would run :P
[15:56] <AceKing> jrib, ok
[15:56] <linux_> i look for the ubuntu 11.04 beta 1
[15:57] <jrib> linux_: #ubuntu+1
[15:59] <yxd> admin
[16:00] <AceKing> jrib, this is the error I get when trying to update.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/587846/
[16:00] <jrib> AceKing: pastebin: apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev
[16:02] <AceKing> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/587847
[16:03] <milamber> AceKing: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f   ?
[16:03] <jrib> AceKing: so what does the command the original message suggests, return?
[16:04] <AceKing> jrib, yes
[16:04] <sud0su> how we do to make ubuntu natty to be beatifull
[16:04] <sud0su> ??
[16:04] <AceKing> jrib, I will try again so I can tell you exactly what it says
[16:04] <sud0su> sorry my english no so good
[16:04] <Logan_> !natty | sud0su
[16:04] <eamon> 14:42 [freenode2] -!- Cannot join to channel #romkitchen-beta (Bad channel key)
[16:04] <debian_n00b> sud0su: its ok
[16:05] <eamon> 14:42 [freenode2] -!- Cannot join to channel #romkitchen-beta (Bad channel key)
[16:05] <aeon-ltd> sud0su: uuhhhh, that depends on what you consider beautiful, but theme it, change configs etc, use different window managers and DEs
[16:05] <eamon> what's the differnce between SFTP and SCP?
[16:05] <zeld> xrander says to me "failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[16:05] <iceroot> eamon: scp is using ssh, sftp is using ftp
[16:05] <eamon> iceroot: sftp uses ssh
[16:05] <llutz> iceroot: wrong, both are ssh based
[16:05] <zeld> what can i do for setuyp my monitor resolution?
[16:05] <Polah> Could PHP files not loading (when I try to send things via POST/GET on them it offers to download the PHP file being used) be a symptom of my internet connection being limited by my ISP? It started a few days ago and has persisted through a system reinstall.
[16:06] <Logan_> !resolution | zeld
[16:06] <eamon> zeld: /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[16:06] <sud0su> thanks all
[16:06] <AceKing> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/587848
[16:06] <iceroot> eamon: llutz sorry for the wrong info
[16:06] <zeld> Logan_: i folowed the wiki
[16:06] <zeld> but...
[16:06] <zeld> at the end there is a way for set a newmode of the screen resolution
[16:07] <zeld> but when i try to set this, it's not working
[16:07] <iceroot> eamon: llutz ftps was ftp-based :)
[16:07] <zeld> the resolution could not be setted
[16:07] <llutz> iceroot: yup
[16:07] <birdthief> Hi
[16:07] <Logan_> !away > JamesJRH
[16:08] <Zealous> even on a quad core the persistent file is taking it's time
[16:08] <llutz> eamon: scp is old, was the filetransfer-method for ssh1. since ssh2 theres sftp, an "advanced" scp.
[16:08] <jiltdil> ranjan: u there?
[16:08] <eamon> llutz: is SFTP faster?
[16:08] <Braber01> What would be the best Channel for me to ask about a printer problem? #ubuntu or #hardware ?
[16:08] <jrib> AceKing: reboot and run memtest from the boot menu
[16:09] <Zealous> printers are evil
[16:09] <Zealous> i refuse to fix em just buy a new one hahahahahaha
[16:09] <Stava> How can I install a new harddrive using the terminal?
[16:09] <coz_>  good day all
[16:09] <Braber01> @Zealous Tell me about it
[16:09] <Zealous> idk what's the problem with it
[16:09] <AceKing> jrib, how do I get to the grub menu?
[16:09] <llutz> eamon: could be, basic difference is, that scp uses ssh for authentication and sftp has own mechanisms to authenticate (still using ssh)
[16:09] <jrib> AceKing: hold "shift" during boot
[16:09] <AceKing> jrib, ok thanks
[16:09] <ayecee> llutz: no, they both use ssh for authentication
[16:10] <ayecee> scp is intended to work like rcp, while sftp is intended to work like sftp.
[16:10] <ayecee> err.. sftp like ftp
[16:10] <Pumpkin-> sftp supports a bunch of stuff scp doesn't. Like listing the contents of a directory, viewing/changing permissions, resuming partially completed transfers and friends
[16:11] <Pumpkin-> scp is dumb and copies things
[16:11] <milamber> Stava: that sounds like a hardware problem :-)
[16:11] <Stava> milamber, well its physically installed
[16:11] <milamber> !mount | Stava you are probably looking for this command
[16:11] <eamon> Pumpkin-: cool
[16:11] <AceKing> jrib, I held "left shift" during boot and it booted user menu
[16:11] <eamon> thanks for the info
[16:11] <darknite> fresh 10.04 lts with proftpd. when using it without tls it works perfectly, when tls is enabled it freezes/waits when opening data channel. both in active and in passive mode. any suggestions on what could be wrong?
[16:12] <jrib> AceKing: ok tap shift every second during boot
[16:12] <AceKing> jrib, ok
[16:12] <milamber> Stava: basically do: sudo fdisk -l, identify the device and then do: mount /path/to/device /path/to/dir/where/you/want/it/mounted
[16:12] <Polah> jrib: Are you trying to get him into the GRUB menu from a LiveCD/USB?
[16:12] <jrib> Polah: nope, regular install
[16:13] <AceKing> jrib, same thing
[16:13] <Shyster> is there any type of software installed on ubuntu by default that can encrypt a usb jump drive?
[16:13] <jrib> AceKing: well that's weird
[16:13] <Stava> milamber, thanks
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> !encfs
[16:14] <milamber> Stava: no problem. any other issues feel free to come back. for a more permanent situation/some good reading you may want to read up on fstab also
[16:14] <ohsix> !ecryptfs
[16:15] <Braber01> I can't get my Printer to work It worked fine Yesterday, I've tried clicking the button that says "Clean print heads" that worked the last time the printer wasn't working now It's giveing me the message "clean" command not found? I'm not getting much help in ##hardware.
[16:16] <Stava> milamber, how do I know which disk to use fdisk on? :o
[16:17] <jbwiv_> guys, does anyone else experience fairly regular desktop freezes with ubuntu maverick? seems like once or twice a week (twice today so far) I've opened a window only to have it freeze, and then seconds later have the whole desktop freeze up
[16:17] <AceKing> jrib, got it! I tried alt + F2 and it worked. Running memtest now
[16:17] <ohsix> Stava: fdisk -l
[16:17] <milamber> Stava: well, if you have a linux box and you just installed a new hd, the new one will probably be formatted fat/ntfs
[16:17] <jatt> check your hardware
[16:17] <jbwiv_> nothing but a reboot will get it back, not even the magic sysrq keys
[16:17] <Stava> ohsix, does nothing
[16:17] <jrib> AceKing: that's very confusing
[16:18] <compdoc> jbwiv_, was it an upgrade or a fresh install?
[16:18] <ohsix> jbwiv_: does the mouse cursor still move when its frozen?
[16:18] <AceKing> jrib, this is the first time I'm having an install problem
[16:19] <jbwiv_> ohsix, no, nothing
[16:19] <jbwiv_> compdoc, fresh install, but months ago
[16:19] <compdoc> sounds like hardware
[16:19] <jbwiv_> I'm wondering if it's compiz
[16:19] <ohsix> jbwiv_: also is it an intel or nvidia card; what app typically does it, what DE are you using, and does all disk activity stop with the freeze
[16:19] <Stava> milamber, sudo fdisk -l did something, it will not list /dev/sdb1 but nothing else
[16:19] <vishnu> any one interested in Gnu Cash
[16:19] <Stava> milamber, it will list sdb1*
[16:20] <compdoc> I like the Old Cash
[16:20] <milamber> Stava: that command will list the hard drives. can you pastebin it?
[16:20] <AceKing> jrib, I thought there may have been a conflict with the mobo and Ubuntu.
[16:20] <terry> vishnu: I'm interested.
[16:20] <ohsix> Stava: you know you can just run palimpsest, System -> Administration -> Disk Utility
[16:20] <jbwiv_> ohsix, nvidia card, random apps (last one was evince), not sure what DE is, and the first time today, disk activity continued but I couldn't get any repsonse from the box. The second lockup, disk activity stopped
[16:21] <ohsix> jbwiv_: ah ok, its nothing that i had in mind
[16:21] <Stava> ohsix, this is server edition
[16:21] <Stava> milamber, http://pastie.org/1739790
[16:21] <ohsix> jbwiv_: was your caps lock key blinking when the disk activity stopped?
[16:21] <ohsix> or rather, its light
[16:21] <milamber> Stava: so sdb1 is the new hd?
[16:21] <jbwiv_> ohsix, I did not notice that...but now that a look at it, this damned logitech wave keyboard has no capslock light!?!
[16:21] <Stava> milamber, im pretty sure
[16:22] <ohsix> Stava: theres "parted" too
[16:22] <jacktheripper> a filesystem option (silent in NTFS-3G) is on by default and has no value. How can I disable this ?
[16:22] <ohsix> jbwiv_: ah it probably wouldn't blink anyways
[16:22] <jbwiv_> in general, is there a way to limit the max resources a process can consume so that you can keep the machine responsive to user input? Let's say you have a runaway process that's grabbing gobs of memory, can you reserve a certain amount of memory that the process can't touch?
[16:22] <milamber> Stava: so make a folder: mkdir ~/newhd, then mount the hard drive: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/newhd
[16:23] <Evan1> Hi, How do I open a file with a space between two words in a terminal?
[16:23] <Stava> milamber, i'd like to mount it more permanently like on boot
[16:23] <ohsix> jbwiv_: but it probably is compiz related, if everything stops with the Big Freeze(TM) it might be a kernel panic and you pretty much have to narrow it down to the driver, then get support from nvidia
[16:23] <jrib> Evan1: file\ with\ space   or   'file with space'
[16:23] <milamber> !fstab | stava
[16:23] <ohsix> Evan1: quote the space with \ like File\ one, or use quotes
[16:24] <jbwiv_> ohsix, ok. is there a more reliable brand of cards with linux these days, or is nvidia the way to go?
[16:24] <Evan1> jrib: Thanks!
[16:24] <Stava> milamber, thanks, i guess i should look up a guide on formating drives
[16:24] <ohsix> jbwiv_: i dunno about reliability, the nvidia cards & drivers have been reliable, but it's a bit more nuanced on linux
[16:24] <ohsix> that is, the cards i've had
[16:25] <jbwiv_> ohsix, ok, thanks
[16:25] <ohsix> jbwiv_: you can try looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old after you reboot, there _might_ be something near the end, but it's very unlikely
[16:26] <ohsix> same goes for /var/log/messages and syslog; kernel messages get written there but for most types of kernel crashes they get lost
[16:26] <ohsix> if you have another computer you can verify during a crash if the computer is really dead by trying to log in with ssh
[16:26] <Abhijit> hi guys. so gnome3 is ready to install in lucid? or should i wait until it gets officially launched? anyone using gnome3? is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell is right command?
[16:26] <ohsix> if it isn't you might be able to see the kernel messages
[16:27] <newbie01> whats the jpeg paste bin website
[16:27] <ohsix> gotta run, bbl
[16:27] <Abhijit> newbie01, imagebin.com
[16:27] <newbie01> tks
[16:27] <Abhijit> !imagebin | newbie01
[16:27] <milamber> Stava: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[16:27] <brando> Hi all, at work I have a docking station for my laptop. On top of that i have 2 extra displays. I'm having trouble to get all 3 working at the same time. Can somebody help me?
[16:27] <Pentester> so do u guys know a way to get youtubes to go back into temp files or is that bug fixed for good?
[16:28] <Stava> milamber, just found that, thanks
[16:28] <Taev> whats the current LTS ?
[16:28] <Taev> I have Lucid Lynx
[16:29] <compdoc> 10.04
[16:29] <Taev> is that the current LTS?
[16:29] <compdoc> think so
[16:29] <Pentester> 10.10
[16:29] <compdoc> no
[16:29] <Abhijit> !lts
[16:29] <Pentester> !lts
[16:29] <compdoc> heh
[16:29] <Taev> im trying to download this app, it says i need some python app greater than 0.7
[16:29] <Taev> but synaptics only shows 0.51
[16:29] <Taev> it says its for 10.10
[16:29] <compdoc> theres nothing wrong with 10.10
[16:29] <jrib> Taev: what do you mean by "some python app"?
[16:29] <Pentester> crashes alot on my computer
[16:29] <Taev> 1 sec
[16:30] <Abhijit> is gnome3 is ready to install in lucid? or should i wait until it gets officially launched? anyone using gnome3? is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell is right command?
[16:30] <Pentester> abh, just put it in a VB and try it urself
[16:30] <terry> teamcoltra: What app are you wanting to install?
[16:30] <compdoc> I like to wait until stuff is released
[16:30] <terry> Taev: What app are you wanting to install?
[16:30] <terry> teamcoltra: Sorry, wrong nic
[16:31] <Taev> Error Dependency is not satisfiable: python-osmgpsmap >0.7
[16:31] <JamesJRH> Logan_: Very sorry! I didn't know that IRC had a way of setting away status, I'm quite new to IRC. I thought changing my nick would be a quiet way of doing it and I actually changed it on another channel without realising my nick affects all channels. However, Empathy 2.30.3, which is supplied with Ubuntu 10.04, doesn't support '/away'.
[16:31] <Taev> i have 0.5.1 thats the highest version available via synaptic
[16:31] <Taev> Im trying to test out Cree.py
[16:31] <Stava> milamber, should i format as ext4?
[16:31] <Taev> so.. how do I get Python-osmgpsmap 0.7
[16:32] <milamber> Stava: personal preference. are you going to be doing anything with windows files?
[16:32] <Zealous> 29 of 42 updates :( i want ubunto NOW!!!!
[16:32] <Zealous> Death to Windows
[16:32] <terry> Taev: You should use the package manager.  sudo apt-get install python-osmgpsmap
[16:32] <Stava> milamber, no, this is only storage
[16:32] <dyllan> for my browser, how can i tell it what application to use when clicking on a word document for example, im using chromium
[16:32] <Taev> and that uses a different directory than synaptic?
[16:32] <Stava> milamber, backups and ftp
[16:33] <Taev> i thought synaptic was a front end for apt-get?
[16:33] <damasceno> I'm using apt-cache to do a mirror in my local network. I made a package eclipse_1.0.deb, and i want to add that package to my mirror. How can I do that?
[16:33] <milamber> then ext4 should be fine. (esp if you ever plan on running anything from there in linux)
[16:33] <terry> Taev: Is that your ultimate goal, to install python-osmgpsmap?    Or is that the dependency that some other app is asking for>?
[16:33] <Stava> milamber, great, so mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 will do?
[16:33] <le00> i installed apache and joomla on my server.. when i type in my lan ip it works. when i type in my wan ip it doesnt work. i think my isp blocked port 80.. how do i change that
[16:34] <ikonia> le00: talk to your isp
[16:34] <brando> Hi all, at work I have a docking station for my laptop. On top of that i have 2 extra displays. I'm having trouble to get all 3 working at the same time. Can somebody help me?
[16:34] <terry> Taev: synaptic is in fact, a front end for apt-get
[16:34] <Stava> le00, open port in your router
[16:34] <Taev> yes im trying to install creepy, i have the deb when i try to install it tells me i need python-osmgpsmap 0.7 , the highest version available on synaptics is 0.5.1
[16:34] <ikonia> le00: it may also be your nat/port forwarding not being set up
[16:34] <le00> ooo
[16:34] <Logan_> !info empathy lucid
[16:34] <le00> lets see
[16:34] <Taev> so how would apt-get pythonosmpgsmap give me any other results than synaptics
[16:34] <Taev> its only showing 0.5.1
[16:35] <Logan_> !info empathy
[16:35] <Taev> i need 0.7
[16:35] <ikonia> Taev: no
[16:35] <linux> waiting for the ubuntu 11.04 beta
[16:35] <linux> when does it comes
[16:35] <le00> apache and joomla are usually port 80 right
[16:35] <Logan_> !natty | linux
[16:35] <le00> or 8080
[16:35] <terry> Taev: What is creepy?
[16:35] <ikonia> linux: follow the topic in #ubuntu+1 channel
[16:35] <miniv> hey guys I have a western digital external hdd that windows tells me i have to reformat before use when i plug it in.  I am hoping to regain access to it in ubuntu, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it at all. any ideas?
[16:35] <ikonia> le00: 80 is apache
[16:35] <Taev> yeah but some retarded ISPs block port 80
[16:35] <ikonia> le00: joomla doesn't have a port
[16:35] <Taev> which is why i have to run apache on 8080
[16:35] <Taev> its some geotracking tool for twitter
[16:35] <AceKing> jrib, I ran the mem test and everything was fine. I rebooted and entered the grub menu and clicked on repair packages. It seems to be working. I'll let you know
[16:35] <Abhijit> gnome3 is ready to install in lucid? or should i wait until it gets officially launched? anyone using gnome3? is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell is right command?
[16:36] <Taev> its supposed to track people via their online presence
[16:36] <Taev> i want to see if im trackable
[16:36] <jbwiv_> ohsix, ok, thanks
[16:36] <ikonia> Abhijit: gnome 3 is not available for lucid
[16:36] <Abhijit> :-o
[16:36] <Taev> it had an article on today's slashdot
[16:36] <aron__> how can i edit grub?
[16:36] <Abhijit> ikonia, i just done apt-cache policy gnome-shell and it shows its available
[16:36] <compdoc> miniv, youre saying that both OSes dont recognise it?
[16:37] <Taev> creepy's install page gives you step by step for adding its repository to apt-get, but it only works for 10.10 when i tried it, it failed
[16:37] <Taev> so i just downloaded the .deb
[16:37] <Squarism> i have a cron expression like this : 17 30 * * * deploy date_from=$(date -d yesterday +"%Y-%m-%d") ; date_to=($date_from "23:59:59"); /home/deploy/epic/current/bin/cron_wrapper.sh ...
[16:37] <terry> Taev: What about gtwitter (Client for tracking and posting to twitter)
[16:37] <Taev> which tells me i need python-whatever 0.7. synaptics is only offering 0.5.1
[16:37] <Taev> so your advice is, Ubuntu is broken, here try something else?
[16:37] <miniv> compdoc, Windows recognizes that it is plugged in but says that i need to reformat before it can be used.  It doesnt show up in ubuntu (don't know any other method than it being on the desktop or in the media folder)
[16:37] <milamber> Stava: yes
[16:37] <cordette> r
[16:38] <cordette> salu
[16:38] <Taev> look just tell me how i can get Python-whatever 0.7
[16:38] <milamber> Stava: however, whenever doing anything major to the system: backups strongly encouraged
[16:38] <cordette> kikou
[16:38] <compdoc> miniv, do you have files on it? why not just format it?
[16:38] <cordette> how are you
[16:39] <miniv> compdoc, i'm trying to get my files off of it. It was working in both OS no problem a couple weeks ago. no event that seemed to cause it either.
[16:39] <Logan_> !fr | cordette
[16:39] <terry> Taev: You need to specify who your talking to.  This is a very busy channel.
[16:39] <cordette> salu
[16:39] <milamber> Taev: https://github.com/nzjrs/osm-gps-map you have to build it from source
[16:39] <Taev> simple question how can i get python-osmpgsmap 0.7
[16:39] <AceKing> jrib, no good. Now it gets to the user menu and freezes up
[16:40] <Taev> thank you
[16:40] <cordette> :)
[16:40] <unsub> a funny thing happened to me on natty today.  I had a really bad screen freeze when using VLC on fullscreen and had to do a hard shutdown (im on a macbook5,1).  When I logged back in gnome had lost all its setting and the files in ~/{Desktop,Documents,Downloads} have all vanished but files in ~/ are all still there.  So I log in using xcfe and I have 2 Desktop folders, 2 Documents folders and 2 Download folders but all are empty.  Its probably related to using
[16:40] <unsub> home folder encryption?
[16:40] <jrib> AceKing: try a different distribution.  It really sounds like a hardware issue to me
[16:40] <afeijo> accessing a ubuntu desktop thru RDP, the resolution is 1024x768. Can I increase it?
[16:40] <compdoc> miniv, well, the drive insdie teh enclosure might be good - could be the usb interface or the external psu is bad. you might trying removing the drive from the case and install it directly in your computer
[16:40] <Logan_> !natty | unsub
[16:41] <gracz> hi to all.
[16:41] <miniv> compdoc: unfortunately i only have a laptop at school with me. I wasn't sure if there were any utilities for trying to read from a (possibly) corrupted drive in linux, I figured my chances were better in ubuntu than windows
[16:41] <unsub> wtf Logan_?
[16:41] <gracz> How to know what Ubuntu window menager actualy use?
[16:41] <AceKing> jrib, for the hell of it I tried 11.04 Alpha 3. Did the same thing. I may try 10.04
[16:41] <Logan_> !language | unsub
[16:42] <miniv> compdoc: even if i can only get a couple of the files out of it, it could be very useful, but i understand if it is unlikely or impractical to proceed
[16:42] <unsub> well im just saying
[16:42] <unsub> i guess you dont want newcomers put off by stories like mine
[16:42] <gracz> Is any command displayning runnig window menager?
[16:43] <unsub> im not complaining i realise its alpha
[16:43] <gracz> I newbie :)
[16:43] <Logan_> unsub: we do not support Natty in this channel.  /join #ubuntu+1 please
[16:43] <unsub> ty
[16:43] <zeld> solved by installing nvidia driver
[16:43] <zeld> :)
[16:43] <zeld> ok
[16:43] <zeld> bye bye
[16:43] <FloodBot3> zeld: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <zeld> and thanks for unsupporting me :)
[16:43] <compdoc> miniv, it all depends on the problem - if its the drive itself, not much can be done. but you have to diagnose it, which is hard if you cant remove the drive and attach it to a computer
[16:43] <afeijo> looser
[16:44] <gracz> bye
[16:44] <milamber> gracz: ps au | grep .dm
[16:44] <terry> Taev: Open a terminal and type:  sudo apt-get install python-osmgpsmap
[16:45] <milamber> terry: taev needs a newer version than is in the repos
[16:45] <miniv> compdoc: Now that I think about it I may have another enclosure that i could swap drives with (i know the other enclosure works fine).  I will go that route before reformatting. thanks for the help!
[16:45] <Taev> exactly milamber
[16:45] <compdoc> good luck
[16:45] <Taev> the repos has 0.5.1
[16:45] <Taev> i need 0.7
[16:45] <Taev> and the source file some one listed is giving me dependency hell
[16:45] <Taev> saying i need gtk-doc
[16:46] <milamber> Taev: sometimes building from source sucks. which is why the people here always* (for the most part) recommend the repos. a handy utility for installing from source is apt-file. it will let you search for a file and tell you what package it is in
[16:47] <linux> not sure
[16:47] <kilian_> hey!
[16:47] <linux> if i should use 10.10 or 10.0
[16:47] <linux> if i should use 10.10 or 10.04
[16:47] <terry> Taev: Then you are going to have to resolve dependencies manually. A number of them.
[16:47] <gracz> Re. :D
[16:47] <kilian_> someone here with som partition expirence?
[16:47] <gracz> What is default window menager in Ubu 10.10?
[16:47] <gracz> Ubuntu*
[16:47] <Taev> it seems to be configuring now
[16:48] <terry> gracz: gnome
[16:48] <arand> !anyone | kilian_
[16:48] <Taev> argh
[16:48] <Taev> libsoup 2-4 not found
[16:48] <gracz> terry window menager not desctop enviroment
[16:48] <gracz> :)
[16:48] <gracz> tfu
[16:48] <gracz> sorry.
[16:48] <milamber> gracz: ps au | grep .dm
[16:48] <terry> gracz: gnome is the window manager  gdm is the login manager
[16:48] <drc> Taev: My package manager shows 0.7.2
[16:48] <kilian_> i've a little problem with my partion tabel
[16:49] <gracz> terry no.
[16:49] <Combatjuan> milamber: I followed the guide you linked to on RepositoriesPersonal.  When installing my package, I get errors with dependencies (this is a crappy test package I made with a simple helloworld.cpp, Makefile, and checkinstall).  http://paste.ubuntu.com/587865/
[16:49] <terry> gracz: What do you need in specific?
[16:49] <Zealous> i was in the middle of install and the update screen went away and i am left with a spinning icon, should i be worried
[16:49] <kilian_> parted told me: Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[16:49] <Taev> you have 10.04 LTS?
[16:49] <Combatjuan> Is this just a problem with the silly package I made or do I need to set up some kind of dependency file in the personal repository?
[16:49] <gracz> terry: name of window menager
[16:49] <arand> linux: Entirely your decision, generally choose the LTS if you want to keep the same things for longer without upgrading.
[16:49] <terry> gracz: gnome
[16:49] <gracz> Terry window menager - not Desktop Enviroment!
[16:49] <terry> Taev: Yes, I have 10.04 LTS
[16:50] <gracz> Not login menager.
[16:50] <extraymond> Excuse me~ Does anybody know how to install Luxrender for Blender2.56 under Ubuntu 10.10?
[16:50] <kilian_> how can i resize a partition using fdisk,
[16:50] <kilian_> ?
[16:50] <linux> if i should use 10.10 or 10.04
[16:50] <extraymond> I can't get it done.
[16:50] <terry> gracz: gnome is the window manager
[16:51] <ayecee> extraymond: what happens when you try?
[16:51] <arand> kilian_: What kind of partition? Are you using the graphical gparted?
[16:51] <milamber> Combatjuan: pastebin /var/log/dpkg/status
[16:51] <Combatjuan> kilian_: man page on fdisk seems to indicate that if you want to resize partitions, use parted.
[16:51] <terry> gracz: I'm sorry I don't understand your question.  Please re-prhase and try again.
[16:51] <kilian_> @arand: gparted fails; it tells :"unallocated"
[16:51] <drc> Taev: Nope...missed you declaring your version...sorry
[16:51] <Zealous> i was in the middle of install and the update screen went away and i am left with a spinning icon, should i be worried
[16:52] <kilian_> but when I look the table in fdisk I see a partion has more cilinders than the max
[16:52] <gracz> terry: gnome is not window menager. Window menager is for example metacity (default window menager of GNOME)
[16:52] <kilian_> @combatjuan: parted doesn't work: Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[16:53] <kilian_> maybe the fdisk output is interesting for u?
[16:53] <kilian_> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/hardware-en-drivers/harde-schijf-herpartitioneren/msg715294/
[16:53] <Taev> now im getting no pygtk-2.0 found
[16:53] <gracz> bye :)
[16:53] <kilian_> I've posted my fdisk output, only the /dev/sda6 partition has already been removed
[16:54] <aron__> where can i find vimrc?
[16:54] <Zealous> is there like a task manager i can open during install or something so i check that install has not frozen over
[16:54] <Taev> whats the command to search apt-get for an app
[16:54] <Taev> i want to find pygtk
[16:54] <Combatjuan> milamber: I assumed you meant /var/lib/dpkg/status?  The relevant section is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/587870/
[16:54] <llutz> Taev: apt-cache search pattern
[16:54] <terry> gracz: The terms "window manager" and "desktop enviornment" are synonymous AFIK.
[16:55] <sipior> Taev: try "apt-cache search --names-only pygtk"
[16:55] <Combatjuan> aron__: ~/.vimrc for your personal one.
[16:55] <arand> kilian_: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=14471 THis seems to describe a similar issue?
[16:55] <jiltdil> what is LUCID basically?
[16:56] <Taev> it found python-zbarpygtk
[16:56] <brightspark> !lucid
[16:56] <llutz> terry: GNOME is a DE using metacity as window-manager by default
[16:56] <Taev> i installed it
[16:56] <aron__> Combatjuan: thanks. i tried to edit /etc/vim/vimrc with no results.
[16:56] <Taev> it said i had the newest version
[16:56] <Taev> but the ./configure says i need it
[16:56] <Taev> no package pygtk-2.0 found
[16:57] <llutz> terry: like KDE is a DE using kwin as windowmanager, LXDE using openwin, XFCE using xfwm
[16:57] <dagon666> Im having problems with my ubuntu server booting out of raid md0 device. Is it possible to reboot the system in situations when the md device cannot be assembled instead of going into very limited shell ?
[16:57] <Taev> consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non standard prefix
[16:57] <Combatjuan> aron__: Yeah, you probably want to copy /etc/vim/vimrc to ~/.vimrc and then edit it.  (though this has probably already been done for you)
[16:57] <Taev> alternative you may set the environment variables PYGTK_CFLAGS and PYGTK_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config
[16:57] <terry> llutz: So what is the answer to gracz's question?
[16:58] <kilian_> @arand: I'll try testdisk!
[16:58] <llutz> terry: what question?
[16:58] <trism> Taev: just make sure python-gtk2-dev is installed, that provides pygtk-2.0.pc
[16:58] <arand> kilian_: Reading your fdisk output, it seems that you have a very similar issue as that of the gparted forum thread I linked, the person there seems to manage to solve it so you might want to follow his steps, after backing up everything that you are able to of course.
[16:58] <brightspark> terry:  I believe it is compiz
[16:58] <Combatjuan> aron__: Also, in vim.  ":echo $MYVIMRC" will tell you which one it is using for vim >= 7.2
[16:58] <terry> llutz: He asked what is the window manager for gnome?
[16:58] <Taev> installing now
[16:58] <Taev> tyvm
[16:58] <aron__> Combatjuan: i dunno. i only have the ~/.viminfo
[16:58] <kilian_> @arand: backup is a small problem, my external drive is full :)
[16:59] <llutz> terry: ah, compiz if desktop-effects are enabled or metacity if not
[16:59] <Taev> wow i love when people say Ubuntu is ready to replace windows
[16:59] <terry> brightspark: I don't think so. compiz is OpenGL window and compositing manager
[16:59] <Taev> dependency hell!
[16:59] <dell> 你好
[16:59] <dell> 有人阿曼
[16:59] <bdamos> if i'm running a software raid (raid1) for a primary and swap partition and i disconnect a drive, why do i have to reconnect the primary partition through "mdadm --add" but not the swap partition?
[17:00] <extraymond> ayecee:I donwload Luxrender and press install add-on in Blender
[17:00] <trism> Taev: what are you compiling? if it is something already in the repos, apt-get build-dep package_name; will get you the packages you need to compile
[17:00] <extraymond> ayecee:But Nothing happened
[17:00] <arand> kilian_: You can always make a copy of the current partition table, by copying the first 512 bytes of sda
[17:01] <jbkc85> anyone know of a good way to calculate the size of a innodb database?
[17:01] <terry> llutz: Ok, well I stand corrected then.  metacity is the window manager for gnome.
[17:01] <alex86> hi, I`m new to linux and hope it will be my future OS. can anyone recommend any books that you think can be efficient for linux novice.
[17:01] <Taev> ok i maked it, and make installed it
[17:01] <Taev> lets see if creepy will install now
[17:01] <kilian_> @arand: how do i do the exacly? i don't have a lot linux experince
[17:01] <aron__> Combatjuan: thanks for the heads up mate. i'll try it out now.
[17:01] <Zealous> bookshop has lots of books on linux and computers
[17:01] <ayecee> extraymond: the button just popped up again as if you had not clicked it?
[17:01] <AmberJ> Hello
[17:02] <extraymond> ayecee:I'm using Blender 2.56 from ppa irie
[17:02] <brightspark>  llutz: thanks for the clarification
[17:02] <ayecee> extraymond: is that a yes or no to my question?
[17:02] <Combatjuan> !books
[17:02] <ikonia> Abhijit: from what repo
[17:02] <Taev> its still telling me Dependency is not satisfiable python-osmgpsmap >=0.7
[17:02] <alex86> Zealous: but i am not supposed to read them all. can you recommend something in particular. perhaps that you read then you started using linux
[17:02] <Abhijit> :-o
[17:03] <Abhijit> ikonia, no repo
[17:03] <Taev> i just configured, make, and make isntalled it
[17:03] <Abhijit> ikonia, just plain lucid
[17:03] <AmberJ> I want all of my graphical file managers to display gksu prompt when trying to mount a particular partition (only 1 partition....not all)....Is it possible?
[17:03] <extraymond> ayecee: which button?
[17:03] <arand> kilian_: Either by using dd, or sfdisk for example: "sfdisk -d /dev/sda > sda_backup"
[17:03] <Taev> its at /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gtk-2.0
[17:03] <kilian_> ty!
[17:04] <ayecee> extraymond: you said you pressed install. That's not a button?
[17:04] <ikonia> !info gnome-shell
[17:04] <Taev> so why isn't GDEBI finding the installed file it says i need?
[17:04] <AmberJ> I had already done this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9207234&postcount=4 but it prompts for password for every partition on my harddisks ....I want it to prompt only for one partition
[17:04] <ikonia> Abhijit: ahh it's in universe
[17:04] <Abhijit> ikonia, yes
[17:04] <ikonia> surprise it's in lucid though
[17:04] <Abhijit> ikonia, what i wanted to know is that , is gnome-shell is the gnome3?
[17:04] <ikonia> !info gnome-shell lucid
[17:05] <ikonia> Abhijit: gnome shell isn't gnome 3, it is a component though
[17:05] <Abhijit> ikonia, yeah. thanks. show to install gnome3?
[17:06] <ikonia> Abhijit: I don't think the whole of gnome-3 is available, this is one of the discussions that's been going on for 11.04
[17:06] <Abhijit> ikonia, okay. np. thanks for your time though.
[17:06] <ayecee> extraymond: You may have to follow the manual installation steps if the graphical install addon doesn't work. Looks like instructions are here: http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/LuxBlend_2.5_installation_instructions
[17:06] <ikonia> Abhijit: not a problem, you may want to think really hard about trying ot use gnome-3 at all on the older distros
[17:07] <Abhijit> :-D
[17:07] <Taev> so i installed python-osmppsmap via compiling from source, it worked i make install, but GDEBI refuses to recognize that its installed
[17:07] <Abhijit> yeah  ikonia i will keep that in mind!
[17:07] <Taev> it says im still missing it
[17:07] <jrib> !away > herton_lunch
[17:07] <arand> kilian_: http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_System_software HAs a description of backing up and restoring the partition table, be extrmely careful to put in the commands correctly.
[17:07] <beniwtv> Taev: Manuall installs do not register in the package managers, so Gdebi would not find it
[17:07] <trism> Taev: if you installed it from source, the package manager knows nothing about it, so you can't use it as a dependency for another package
[17:08] <extraymond> ayecee:I'm going to try again.
[17:08] <ayecee> ok
[17:08] <llutz> !taev | checkinstall  this helps
[17:09] <llutz> !checkinstall | taev  this helps
[17:09] <Taev> so what do i do exactly?
[17:09] <Taev> make checkinstall ?
[17:09] <llutz> Taev: "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[17:10] <kilian_> @ Arand: question
[17:10] <kilian_> I've made a backup of my partition table
[17:10] <kilian_> can't i just edit the backup file, and make my secors fit?
[17:11] <stefanivarsson> Planned to install Natty Beta tonight. Anyone know if it is available on the servers yet? Could not find ant release info on the wiki.
[17:11] <ruan> hmm, how do i swap tabs in irssi?
[17:11] <Zealous> mmmmmmmmmmm yum ubuntu is installed
[17:11] <ruan> as in, changing the position of a tab
[17:11] <Abhijit> !yay | Zealous
[17:11] <arand> kilian_: You probably could do that yea...
[17:11] <Taev> ok i did it and i get this weird question
[17:11] <trism> stefanivarsson: the topic will change in #ubuntu+1 when the beta is out
[17:11] <arand> kilian_: Just make sure to make a bckup of the backup before editing the backup so you can restore the backup of the backup ;)
[17:11] <Taev> Warning the package version "0.7.4 0.7.4 0.7.4" is not a
[17:12] <Taev> *** warning debian policy compliant one
[17:12] <Taev> please specify an alternate one
[17:12] <llutz> ruan: /window move
[17:12] <ruan> llutz: thanks\
[17:12] <stefanivarsson> @trism. Thanks for the answer
[17:12] <Taev> oh great
[17:12] <Taev> error 2
[17:12] <Taev> failed
[17:13] <extraymond> ayecee: I follow the instruction. But can't get it to work. A Luxrender add-on should be there for enabling it.
[17:14] <kilian_> @arand: not anymore an error of outside the disk, thats positive
[17:14] <Zealous> you know what fuck windows totally ubuntu kicks sooo much ass
[17:14] <kilian_> but now: partition 1 does not end at a cylinder boundary
[17:14] <extraymond> ayecee: But I can only see a render_netrender which has a exclamation mark.
[17:14] <maco> !language | Zealous
[17:15] <jasonino> hi
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[17:15] <FloodBot3> n2linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <arand> kilian_: Afaik, that error is not critical, I think in fact my disk is setup like so as well...
[17:15] <alucardromero-w> Yeah, the chat is heavily moderated.  Kids end up in here.
[17:15] <ayecee> extraymond: I don't know this software well enough to suggest a fix. Is there perhaps a more blender-specific channel?
[17:15] <kilian_> i'll tyr the --force option, and then use fdisk to check
[17:16] <extraymond> Thanks for your help~ I'm gonna check it.
[17:16] <Zealous> i am sorry i don't mean to be any trouble i just love my new nixtap
[17:16] <ayecee> extraymond: it looks like #blender is the official one
[17:17] <Squarism> i wanna create a cronwrapper.sh that can take a commandline on the form command1 ; command2 ; command3... so i can excute : wrapper.sh command1 ; command2 ; command3 .... where command 1,2 and 3 are passed as the argument to wrappers.sh ... not just command1
[17:17] <kilian_> @Arand: ok, the numbers of sectors is ok now, but the cilinders not
[17:17] <kilian_> @Arand: can i change that too, with a backup of my backup? :)
[17:18] <arand> kilian_: I guess, so, if that doesn't work, using testdisk might be a more automatic way to detect what changes might be sensible.
[17:18] <sipior> Squarism: why not just leave out the semi-colons, and process the argument list normally?
[17:18] <Zealous> Am i going to need a firewall for linux use, or is it secure enough without one
[17:18] <agronholm> hi, does anyone know why openjdk-6-jre does not satisfy the "java-virtual-machine" requirement in packages?
[17:19] <agronholm> seems that only sun-java6-jre and gcj-jre-headless do
[17:19] <that_is_lg> who are using openssh can u help me
[17:19] <beniwtv> that_is_lg: Don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[17:19] <Polah> that_is_lg: OpenSSH comes with Ubuntu by default. What do you need help with?
[17:19] <agronholm> the server isn't installed by default though
[17:20] <Squarism> sipior, well ... my command looks like this :  cron_wrapper.sh date_from=$(date -d yesterday +"%Y-%m-%d");date_to=($date_from "23:59:59"); bundle exec rake epic:store ${date_from},${date_to}
[17:20] <Pici> Polah: ssh is not installed by default.
[17:20] <llutz> openssh-client is
[17:20] <Squarism> sipior, as cron is not bash i must pass my 3 statements to bash through the wrapper script
[17:20] <that_is_lg> ii installed it
[17:21] <Pici> Polah, llutz: I stand corrected ;)
[17:21] <Polah> that_is_lg: openssh-server? What problems are you having?
[17:21] <sipior> Squarism: again, why not leave out the semi-colons, and have your script process the argument list ("$1","$2",...)?
[17:21] <that_is_lg> when i try connect it said permission denid
[17:21] <kilian_> @arand: i've just opened gParted and I can see the partition table now. Would i be safe to edit the last partition, so gParted makes everything ok?
[17:22] <Polah> that_is_lg: Does it say that on connecting or when attempting to login?
[17:22] <spasysheep> does dpkg handle dependencies? Or do I need to use one of the higher-level tools for that?
[17:22] <that_is_lg> ok can we go on a window to talk
[17:22] <llutz> spasysheep: no, use apt
[17:22] <Squarism> sipior, but the wrapper executes $@
[17:22] <arand> kilian_: I have no idea, maybe?
[17:22] <sipior> spasysheep: no and yes, respectively.
[17:22] <Polah> that_is_lg, No.
[17:23] <that_is_lg> i'm not sure
[17:23] <that_is_lg> i used this command to connect
[17:23] <sipior> Squarism: so edit the wrapper. what's the problem here?
[17:23] <that_is_lg> ssh usernam@ip
[17:23] <beniwtv> that_is_lg: Does your message appear after you entered the password?
[17:23] <that_is_lg> ssh usernam@ip
[17:23] <that_is_lg> yes
[17:23] <Squarism> sipior, i cant / rather not
[17:23] <spasysheep> OK, and if I have installed a library required by a .deb manually (compiled from source etc) will aptitude detect that, or does it only look at things installed from .deb files?
[17:23] <that_is_lg> the messages is
[17:23] <Polah> When I try to install/update some programs, APT says it can't authenticate them. How can I fix this, I imagine it's an issue with the keyserver
[17:24] <ayecee> spasysheep: aptitude will not detect that.
[17:24] <that_is_lg> usename@ip password
[17:24] <that_is_lg> :
[17:24] <that_is_lg> i pressed my password
[17:24] <that_is_lg> then it said
[17:24] <that_is_lg> permission denied
[17:24] <beniwtv> that_is_lg: either the password is wrong, or the user you are trying to log-in as is not allowed to.
[17:24] <Polah> that_is_lg: No, do "ssh <username>@<ip>", then it should prompt for a password; but the password in then
[17:25] <lorimar> i just inherited an old hoary server that I need to install a package on. unfortuantely my sources are so out of date they dont exist anymore. anyone know what sources I should be using for hoary?
[17:25] <ayecee> heh. with the password in the command line, it would try to run the password as a command on the remote machine. hence, permission denied.
[17:25] <jrib> lorimar: you should be upgrading
[17:25] <that_is_lg> username is username from my local pc or server
[17:25] <Braber01> my printq keeps telling me that it isn't connected however my dad is able to print any ideas?
[17:25] <spasysheep> that_is_lg: ssh <ip> -l <username>
[17:25] <ayecee> lorimar: hoary is well outside of support, so there are no sources to use.
[17:25] <jrib> !upgrade | lorimar
[17:25] <Polah> that_is_lg: You need to use the username for the remote server you are connecting to.
[17:25] <slug0> yo, how do i get to the perl channel? please
[17:25] <kilian_> @Arand: gParted has set the last cilinder of my broke partition on the number of cilinders. Is this OK?
[17:26] <Polah> slug0: /j #perl perhaps?
[17:26] <ayecee> slug0: /join #perl
[17:26] <slug0> danke
[17:26] <that_is_lg> example
[17:26] <lorimar> yeah, i realize i should upgrade it. we are probably just going to retire it soon. i just need to install one package for the time being
[17:26] <that_is_lg> my server
[17:26] <that_is_lg> username is
[17:26] <spasysheep> llutz, sipior, ayecee: thanks
[17:26] <lorimar> damn :(
[17:26] <that_is_lg> userver
[17:26] <that_is_lg> and ip is 10.0.0.8
[17:26] <Polah> lorimar: Yes, definitely upgrade. Hoary is 5 or 6 I think
[17:26] <that_is_lg> then my command is
[17:26] <ayecee> that_is_lg: please do not use enter as punctuation, it's hard to follow what you're saying.
[17:27] <that_is_lg> ssh userver@10.0.0.8
[17:27] <that_is_lg> ?
[17:27] <Polah> that_is_lg: Are you trying to connect to a server on your LAN?
[17:27] <that_is_lg> yes
[17:27] <that_is_lg> my virtural machine
[17:27] <that_is_lg> on my pc
[17:28] <ayecee> that_is_lg: in that case, ssh userver@10.0.0.8 is correct
[17:28] <arand> kilian_: I don't know I*m afraid.
[17:28] <Polah> that_is_lg: Provided the IP is correct (LAN IPs are usually 192.168.X.X), do "ssh userver@10.0.0.8" and then put the password in when you are prompted.
[17:28] <kilian_> @Arand: i'll try a reboot to check, and aftwerward reinstall ubuntu
[17:28] <kilian_> if all works :-)
[17:28] <cannonfodder> can someone please help me. i was here yesterday asking the same question. i need to create a bootable windows xp flash drive from an ubuntu netbook with no cd drive...how the hell do i do this?
[17:29] <Bennit> Hi
[17:29] <that_is_lg> lyly@lyly-laptop:~$ ssh userver@10.0.2.15
[17:29] <that_is_lg> ssh: connect to host 10.0.2.15 port 22: No route to host
[17:29] <ayecee> cannonfodder: you can't, I'm afraid.
[17:29] <that_is_lg> here is the result
[17:29] <mexia> hi there proplr
[17:29] <mexia> people*
[17:29] <cannonfodder> ayecee thats so fail
[17:29] <that_is_lg> i dont understand why
[17:29] <ayecee> cannonfodder: yup, but there it is.
[17:29] <Taev> ok after 2 hours of trying to get a simple program to work i give up
[17:29] <cannonfodder> there has to be a way
[17:29] <Bennit> Anyone know how to map keys sent from "thrustmaster dual trigger" onto keyboard presses on ubuntu (lucid)
[17:29] <Taev> ill install it on windows
[17:29] <ayecee> cannonfodder: and yet there isn't.
[17:30] <that_is_lg> i dont understand why
[17:30] <that_is_lg> ssh: connect to host 10.0.2.15 port 22: No route to host
[17:30] <spasysheep> that_is_lg: that means your computer can't find the machine with that IP
[17:31] <beniwtv> that_is_lg: Is that the correct IP on your lan? If the virtual machine is configured with NAT (not bridge), then that address is not reachable... you will have to change to bridge mode, or do port forwarding.
[17:31] <Zealous> O.k silly question #45342 Why are the programs sleeping?
[17:31] <that_is_lg> how to port forwarding
[17:31] <ayecee> Zealous: because they have nothing to do :)
[17:32] <bilalo> Zealous because they work alot
[17:32] <beniwtv> that_is_lg: Refer to the documentation of your particular VM software...
[17:32] <that_is_lg> ok i will find how to forwarding
[17:32] <Zealous> lol i am exploring and just found that funny
[17:32] <that_is_lg> then i come back later
[17:32] <Zealous> port forwarding is easy on the router
[17:32] <that_is_lg> thanks âl
[17:32] <Zealous> portforwawrd.com
[17:32] <Zealous> will give you more details
[17:32] <BluesKaj> that_is_lg, if you run a router look in there for the local pc IPs , they should be listed , probly something like 192.168.x.x
[17:32] <beniwtv> Zealous: Nothing to do with routers.... It's a VM...
[17:32] <Zealous> portforward.com
[17:32] <terry> that_is_lg: nmap -p 22 10.0.2.15
[17:33] <Zealous> force of habit
[17:33] <Zealous> i am a converted user, i will learn
[17:33] <Dcite> Is there any minimalist ubuntu version that will fit in 1.5GB and use less than 256MB of ram (For use inside a VirtualBox)
[17:34] <beniwtv> Dcite: Check out ubuntu-vm-builder, it will generate a working system for virtual machines
[17:34] <Dcite> The netbook's SSD is nearly full (3GB left) so I can't make anything large.
[17:34] <emma> It is important that everyone in this channel, and other #ubuntu* channels be made aware that it is being publicly logged. But the ops have formed a channel for themselves that they do not publicly log. Why is what is good for the goose not good for the gander? Is this an open source community or not?
[17:34] <lahwran> is there a ubottu factoid on how to install mono?
[17:35] <eamon> Are there any GUI FTP programs as fast as rsync?
[17:35] <eamon> I'm using gFTP at the moment and it's transferring at 50kB/s whereas rsync gets 100-110kB/s.
[17:35] <Dcite> beniwtv: Thank you,will take a look(hopefully it'll be small ^_^)
[17:35] <sipior> emma: no one cares but you, i suspect.
[17:35] <_Synergy_> go in there and log it for them if you care emma
[17:35] <henrik_> How are you
[17:35] <emma> _Synergy_: no only is it not publicly logged. it is also exclusive. No one but them are allowed to even go in it.
[17:35] <emma> Open source community?
[17:36] <beniwtv> Dcite: My VM's are usually 1GB, with some programs installed
[17:36] <Pici> emma: That information is in the channel's onjoin message.
[17:36] <sipior> emma: "open source" does not mean you can "complete and unmitigated access to every moron who asks"
[17:36] <Pici> emma: Please stop trying to derail this channel.
[17:37] <terry> emma: Yes it is an open source community and the topic here is Ubuntu, not channel ops.
[17:37] <josephseraos> Why I can't send messages to ##c++ channel?
[17:37] <Squarism> cron is not bash ivle learned... but is there a way to test cron command lines.. ...to see if they execute other than schedule command line?
[17:37] <Dcite> beniwtv: The VM I want to make will only serve 1 purpose, to run Java-based Juniper NetworkConnect and route it with iptables.
[17:37] <Zealous> are u registered? jose
[17:37] <rooks> eamon, ftp servers are usually capped at some speed
[17:37] <ftab> josephseraos, you might need to register
[17:37] <emma> Pici: No interest in derailing the channel. I'm interested in fair play and the freedom of information and privacy.
[17:37] <subz3r0> hi there, does a ubuntu live cd exist?
[17:37] <Dcite> beniwtv: Though it still needs an X session and firefox to launch x.x
[17:37] <ftab> subz3r0, allot :-)
[17:37] <IdleOne> emma: offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[17:37] <Abhijit> subz3r0, every ubuntu cd is live cd
[17:38] <rooks> eamon, if you have uncapped ftp server you should get whatever speed the network permits
[17:38] <terry> emma: We are freely exchaniging information, (about Ubuntu, nothing more).
[17:38] <sipior> emma: can i have your credit card number, then?
[17:38] <subz3r0> my girlfriend is running vista on her laptop, its friggin slow, so i want to try it first with a livecd, then maybe install ubuntu
[17:38] <beniwtv> Dcite: If you can connect remotely (without X and firefox) you might save quite a bit of space. Otherwise, just try it out and see.
[17:38] <ruan> subz3r0: yes
[17:38] <ruan> !livecd
[17:38] <emma> terry: yes and they think everything you say should be recorded publicly for the world to ese for all time, but they think they should not have to bare that burden.
[17:38] <bin_bash> If I want to use dd to backup my linux partition to an external hdd, am I better off cloning or doing a disk image? I've been researching it, but haven't really gotten a definitve answer.
[17:39] <subz3r0> do you know if some kind of "huway.." usb umts surf sticks run out of the box?
[17:39] <_Synergy_> emma... burden? serious? move on.
[17:39] <ftab> bin_bash, go for RAID
[17:39] <rooks> subz3r0, go for it! 70k of french policeman have it on their computers, it cant be that hard :D
[17:39] <bin_bash> ftab: what is RAID and what's the difference?
[17:39] <ftab> bin_bash, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
[17:39] <ruan> subz3r0: not sure but usb did work in livecd
[17:39] <Dcite> beniwtv: Reading a bit.. it seems to be bound to ubuntu itself.. does that mean if I move the vm itself to a non-ubuntu box it's going to break?
[17:39] <zmbi> emma: there are a lot of channel, that dont log, so maybi you can go there
[17:39] <ruan> subz3r0: it should work overall
[17:39] <slug0> #german
[17:39] <slug0> oops
[17:39] <subz3r0> hopefully
[17:40] <subz3r0> thank you guys
[17:40] <terry> emma: That is a convenience and helps in a number of ways.  Anything you do on the internet is public so no big deal. If you have a Ubuntu question place it here.  Thanks for your consern but be assured it is not a problem.
[17:40] <Bennit> trying out qjoypad now
[17:40] <subz3r0> peace out
[17:40] <sipior> bin_bash: don't muck about with raid. "fsarchiver" is a nice means of storing an entire filesystem, but rsync works just as well.
[17:40] <ftab> subz3r0, you can also boot from USB with out installing it
[17:40] <beniwtv> Dcite: No, the final image will run fine.
[17:40] <terry> *concern
[17:40] <beniwtv> Dcite: That is, on any KVM host
[17:40] <bin_bash> sipior: Why shouldn't I use dd?
[17:40] <sipior> bin_bash: it's slower, and wastes space.
[17:41] <ruan> if i click cancel in file operations, it does nothing, why?
[17:41] <ruan> it just keeps transferring
[17:42] <bin_bash> sipior: I'm going to reformat my harddrive and then I'll be wanting to restore all my data and settings/preferences what is the best way to do this using fsarchiver?
[17:42] <bin_bash> sipior: I'm using 10.04, by the way
[17:42] <ruan> going to cut the connection..
[17:42] <nasser> Hi, I cannot listen to any sound... Take a look at this: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cc650cfe605c44c6ec1e07f252d4e91782b47def It could be useful... Help! Thanks :)
[17:43] <ruan> i cut the connection and now its stalling. why isnt it canceling
[17:43] <nasser> Hi, I cannot listen to any sound... Take a look at this: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cc650cfe605c44c6ec1e07f252d4e91782b47def It could be useful... Help! Thanks :)
[17:44] <eamon> rooks: I get a higher speed when I use rsync than when I connect with gFTP
[17:44] <sipior> bin_bash: fsarchiver saves the filesystem to a location of your choosing. after reformatting use fsarchiver to restore the filesystem. if you want to save a root partition, i'd recommend doing it from a live cd or the like.
[17:44] <ruan> i feel like terminating nautilus to stop it
[17:44] <beniwtv> bin_bash: Your settings are in your home connection, so saving all files there with some tool (including the hidden ones starting with ".") will take care of that. Else, if you want the system/applications too make a full disk backup (in that case take a look at redobackup.org).
[17:44] <eamon> ANd i can upload bittorrent from that server at 1gigabit/s so upload sped from the server is no the problem
[17:44] <bin_bash> sipior: what's the difference between a root partition and a regular partition?
[17:44] <slug0> anybody aware of any german speaking channels?
[17:45] <sipior> bin_bash: the root partition is just the one that the root filesystem ("/") lives on.
[17:45] <terry> nasser: run alsamixer  see if anything is mutted or truned down.
[17:45] <llutz> !de | slug0
[17:45] <sipior> bin_bash: your linux install only makes use of one partition, then?
[17:45] <bin_bash> sipior: Yes. I have two partitions, one with OS X and one with Ubuntu 10.04
[17:46] <terry> nasser: Make sure your speakers are in working order, powered up, and plugged into active port
[17:46] <eamon> no swap?
[17:46] <nasser> terry,  headphones and speakers are unabled
[17:46] <bin_bash> eamon: I have a tiny swap partition of about 350MBs
[17:46] <nasser> and in MM
[17:46] <llutz> slug0: if you want more, type "/msg alis list *-de" and pick what you like
[17:46] <eamon> swap should be at least 1 gb
[17:47] <terry> nasser: MM = muted
[17:47] <bin_bash> eamon: yes, which is why I'm reformatting and repartitioning
[17:47] <ayecee> eamon: why?
[17:47] <eamon> ayecee: that is the way of things
[17:47] <b0ot> I was thinking about trying to create a program that would allow you to convert situational awareness data from one format to different formats and send it out unicast/multicast to specified ip/ports. I can handle the translation part, but I was wondering if anyone had a sugestion on how I might be able to send the data with linux? *bonus* to any solution that would work cross platform
[17:47] <ayecee> eamon: don't know, then?
[17:47] <eamon> bin_bash: no need to reformat, resize your partitions with gparted
[17:47] <nasser> terry: ok, now they're in OO
[17:47] <terry> nasser: Very good...
[17:48] <bin_bash> eamon: I know what I need to do, okay? I need to reformat and do a slim install of OS X.
[17:48] <eamon> bin_bash: why reformat?
[17:48] <terry> nasser: The m key toggles mute on or off in alsamixer.  ... but I guess you just now learned that so...
[17:48] <bin_bash> eamon: Because that is the way of things.
[17:48] <rooks> eamon, do you have access to the config of that ftp server?
[17:48] <nasser> terry: anyway, i cannot put up the volume of these two things...
[17:49] <eamon> rooks: no I'm just a user
[17:49] <bin_bash> sipior: At any rate, Linux is only on one partition, not including the swap.
[17:49] <nasser> i mean in alsamixer
[17:49] <eamon> I probably have read access rooks
[17:49] <terry> nasser: If it has MM at bottom, hit the m key to unmute and then the uparrrow to raise vilume.  Left and right arrows will move to different channels.
[17:50] <bilalo>   /'
[17:50] <rooks> eamon, ftp servers have capped speed
[17:50] <eamon> bin_bash: I'm just letting you know that there are tools to resize partitions so you don't need to back up all your files and all that shit
[17:50] <beniwtv> eamon: Also, ftp is not very secure, prefer rsync when you can over ssh
[17:50] <nasser> terry, i've already unmuted speakers and headphones but i click on the up arrow and the volume doesn't raise...
[17:51] <eamon> beniwtv: yeah i use rsync and it's faster but I can't select multiple directories with it
[17:51] <bin_bash> eamon: I actually do, because I need to get my computer replaced, as well as reformat as there is a memory leak on both partitions that cannot be found, and I need to reinstall OS X and then re-install Ubuntu. I know how to use gparted, as I've used it before but for right now, I actually DO need to back my stuff up, and I DO need to reformat.
[17:51] <XX> Does the system recreate /etc/resolv.conf at every boot? Last time I set them to Google's 8.8.4.4 but it reset to different IPs apparently.
[17:51] <beniwtv> eamon: You can include/exclude files and directories, see rsync man page
[17:51] <ayecee> bin_bash: that's an odd problem, normally memory leaks affect memory rather than disk space..
[17:52] <terry> nasser: The up-arrrow will raise vilume.  Left and right arrows will move to different channels.  (Mouse has no effect in alsamixer, it is not a GUI.)
[17:52] <llutz> XX: yes, change dns in networkmanager-connection or edit dhclient.conf to change
[17:52] <eamon> beniwtv: that's useful but it would be faster with a GUI
[17:52] <bin_bash> ayecee: yes, I know. Which would be why I'm having swap crashes, even though I'm not using swap.
[17:52] <DaZ> eamon: scroll works in alsamixer.
[17:52] <ayecee> bin_bash: swap crashes? I guess I missed that story :)
[17:52] <DaZ> terry i mean :f
[17:52] <eamon> bin_bash: oh right, ok it sounded like you just wanted to make your swap partition bigger
[17:52] <beniwtv> eamon: If your excluded files change often, then agreed.
[17:52] <terry> nasser: Left and right arrows will move to different channels. If it has MM at bottom, hit the m key to un-mute and then the uparrrow to raise vilume.
[17:53] <ioria> hi
[17:53] <bin_bash> eamon: I'm going to do all of that when I reformat. The fact of the matter is, I DO need to reformat for a number of different reasons, mostly that I need to re-install OS X on a smaller partition, which is most easily done after a reformat.
[17:53] <nasser> terry, i know it! the up arrow doesn't work! i click on it and the volume doesn't raise!!
[17:53] <terry> DaZ: O
[17:53] <eamon> beniwtv: yeah it does. I'm looking for something like a FTP program but that uses rsync as the transfer protocol
[17:54] <ioria> does anyone know if has been solved the problem about Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller ?
[17:54] <nasser> terry, could be another solution reinstalling alsa packages??
[17:54] <terry> nasser: forget the mouse.  Use the right or left arrow to select channel and then when you are on a particular channel, use m key to mute or unmute and then the up or down arrow to raise or lower volume.
[17:54] <bin_bash> eamon: Also I need to get my computer fixed or replaced, and therfore need all my files to be backed up. Now, back to the original issue. What is the best way to back EVERYTHING up so that I can restore it after a re-install without a LiveCD
[17:54] <ayecee> ioria: i have not heard the problem about Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller.
[17:55] <ioria> google it :)
[17:55] <eamon> bin_bash: drive imager
[17:55] <ayecee> ioria: is there a bug report filed for it?
[17:55] <ioria> yes
[17:55] <ayecee> ioria: is the bug report still marked as unresolved?
[17:55] <ioria> unresolved
[17:55] <irule> hi, please help me I have a tdbsam setup that worked with 10.04, and after upgrade to 10.10 I get smbd/service.c:678(make_connection_snum)create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED same everything else, ny ideas? thanks!
[17:55] <nasser> terry: i'm not using the mouse!
[17:55] <ayecee> ioria: then the problem has not yet been fixed.
[17:55] <bin_bash> eamon: can I apt-get that?
[17:55] <naomi_> I have an external hard drive that I just want to plug in and transfer films over to but nothing shows up when I plug it in? Like where is this version of "My Computer"
[17:56] <beniwtv> eamon: I have not heard about a rsync tool that lets you transfer selected files via click, but it would be a really useful one!
[17:56] <ioria> it's an old thread
[17:56] <Combatjuan> What does the term "pool" mean with respect to package repositories?
[17:56] <llutz> bin_bash: rsync, tar, fs-archiver
[17:56] <ioria> 2009
[17:56] <Combatjuan> Also "pinning"?
[17:56] <BluesKaj-den> naomi_, open nautilus /places
[17:56] <ayecee> ioria: okay
[17:56] <terry> nasser: Then why did you say "i click on it and the volume doesn't raise!!"?  Are you in alsamixer?
[17:56] <beniwtv> eamon: Right now, all rsync tools are more geared towards backups of directories
[17:56] <ioria> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7339345
[17:56] <naomi_> what on earth is nautilus?
[17:56] <bin_bash> llutz: fsarchiver requires me to do it from a LiveCD, which I don't have. Do the others permit me to do it from the hdd itself?
[17:56] <ayecee> ioria: that's a thread, not a bug report
[17:57] <arand> naomi_: Defualt file manager.
[17:57] <ioria> oops
[17:57] <BluesKaj-den> !nautilus | naomi_
[17:57] <eamon> bin_bash: yes, Partition Image or partimage
[17:57] <nasser> terry; i meant i pressed the up arrow button...
[17:57] <llutz> bin_bash: backing up / from a running system may break things. so usage of a live-cd is advised in any case
[17:57] <beniwtv> eamon: Hmmm... that makes me thinking though. Would the file manager (nautilus) work for you? It can connect over ssh and transfer (copy) files...
[17:57] <BluesKaj-den> !info nautilus | naomi_
[17:57] <eamon> bin_bash: PartImage would be your best bet
[17:58] <bin_bash> llutz: That doesn't really make sense. WHy wouldn't I be able to back everything up while using the system? I don't have a LiveCD nor a blank one to burn it to
[17:58] <terry> nasser: Does it have MM at the bottom?
[17:58] <sipior> bin_bash: unless you're filesystem is ext4, in which case partimage will not work. do you happen to recall which filesystem you are using?
[17:58] <Combatjuan> bin_bash: The filesystem will likely change during the course of your backup.
[17:58] <llutz> bin_bash: you cannot lock some processes, they'll run and possobly change things during backup-
[17:58] <sipior> your, rather
[17:58] <BluesKaj-den> odd, I thought nautilus was default file manager
[17:59] <bin_bash> sipior: Yes it is ext4
[17:59] <eamon> beniwtv: I use Xfce. I need a more powerful computer for those newer desktop environments!
[17:59] <terry> nasser: What channel were you on when you hit the up arrow?
[17:59] <ioria> ayecee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/88863
[17:59] <terry> nasser: Well, first off, what does it say at top of the screen? ALC262 ?  or what?
[17:59] <arand> bin_bash: You can do it online if you have snapshotting capabilities e.g. LVM or Btrfs, otherwise not.
[17:59] <ayecee> ioria: according to the bug report, it's still not supported, and is on the wishlist for kernel developers.
[17:59] <ioria> ayecee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/88863
[17:59] <sipior> bin_bash: i don't believe partimage will work with ext4, sadly. fsarchiver will, and of course rsync is an option.
[17:59] <nasser> terry: http://imagebin.org/145917 take a look at this screenshot!
[17:59] <beniwtv> eamon: Humm... I haven't used Xfce yet, so I can't say if the file manager there would support it.
[17:59] <ioria> :-((((
[18:00] <bin_bash> sipior: Yeah I ust read about partimage and it won't work. It seems like dd might be my best option. Would I be able to do dd while using the system?
[18:00] <sipior> bin_bash: seriously, don't do that.
[18:00] <bin_bash> sipior: Why not?
[18:01] <bin_bash> sipior: It's a 50gig partition with only about 40 being used being put onto a 250gig external partition. Space is not an issue here.
[18:01] <llutz> bin_bash: why don't you read the answers already given to you?
[18:01] <terry> nasser: Now that   you have Master and PCM turned all the way up, is it working?  Try and play a sound and see what happens.
[18:01] <sipior> bin_bash: backing up a live filesystem is a non trivial affair. what happens if dd catches a file whilst it is being modified?
[18:01] <bin_bash> llutz: I've been reading them, and googling them
[18:01] <bin_bash> But I don't have a LiveCD nor a way to make one
[18:01] <bin_bash> So, what am I supposed to do?
[18:02] <spasysheep> bin_bash: make a live USB?
[18:02] <nasser> terry: no, it doesn't
[18:03] <bin_bash> spasysheep: didn't think of that
[18:03] <sipior> bin_bash: do you need the system files? how about just backing up your home directory with rsync?
[18:03] <llutz> bin_bash: there is no real safe way to backup a running system period
[18:03] <bin_bash> sipior: is there a reason I wouldn't need the system files?
[18:03] <sipior> bin_bash: yes, you would reinstall the operating system after erasing the disk.
[18:04] <spasysheep> bin_bash: because they can all be reinstalled with relative ease? All you need should be your home folder and the configuration files it contains (in theory)
[18:04] <bin_bash> sipior: That was what I was planning on doing. If I just back up the home folder, would it save all my applications including my config files for conky and the like?
[18:04] <Combatjuan> sipior: It would probably also be nice if he could easily reinstall all the packages he has installed.  I've wondered, is there an easy way to export that?
[18:05] <sipior> Combatjuan: yep, sure is. just a sec...
[18:05] <sipior> !clone
[18:05] <Paddy_NI> Combatjuan: aptoncd
[18:05] <Combatjuan> sipior, Paddy_NI: Thanks.
[18:05] <Paddy_NI> Combatjuan: Or my personal favourite keryx
[18:05] <ioria> :§ bye
[18:06] <terry> nasser: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[18:06] <dziadu> hi
[18:07] <dziadu> i have found that some packages install files into /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
[18:07] <terry> nasser: You can use the above command to test, (Ctrl-c to turn it off.)  Check to see if your speakers are plugged in to correct port etc.
[18:07] <dziadu> should it be like that, is it correct?
[18:07] <valadares> how can i make xubuntu detects my wlan adapter? model:USB-11N-NTX(LOOP)
[18:07] <Taev> alright i have installed the source for osmpgsmap, and GDEBI is letting me install the creepy deb, but when i run it, it crashes saying it can't find module osmgpsmap
[18:07] <Taev> but i did compile it, make, and make install it
[18:07] <nasser> terry: it's a laptop
[18:07] <Taev> could it be that since its installed in /usr/local/ the file isn't looking for it?
[18:07] <sipior> dziadu: yes, it's fine.
[18:08] <Taev> can't i link it against the standard library depository directory?
[18:08] <bin_bash> sipior: I found a USB pendrive. I can run ubuntu live from that, right?
[18:08] <sipior> bin_bash: sure.
[18:08] <terry> nasser: Oh.  Well do you have a manual volume control?  Or keyboard combinations that turn voulume up or down or mute button, etc. etc.?
[18:08] <bin_bash> sipior: I can then back up my system files and the like, correct?
[18:09] <sipior> bin_bash: yes.
[18:09] <terry> nasser: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  #Do you have this running?
[18:09] <bin_bash> sipior: or am I better off just re-installing the OS and exporting my packages?
[18:09] <nasser> terry: yes, i've
[18:09] <bin_bash> sipior: I'm really looking for the easiest thing possible here.
[18:09] <sipior> bin_bash: then just reinstall after wiping the disk :-)
[18:09] <terry> nasser: Yes you've __________ ?
[18:09] <nasser> i've already raisen up the volum pressing sound keys
[18:10] <dziadu> sipior: my problem is, that ubuntu install libX11.so into location mentioned before, and when I run ./configure for some application script then it can't find this library
[18:10] <Taev> i even did that checkinstall thing
[18:10] <valadares> WHO KNOW HOW CAN I MAKE XUBUNTU DETECTS MY WLAN ADAPTER? MODEL: USB-11N-NTX(LOOP)
[18:10] <sipior> bin_bash: back up your home directory, and your package list, and you should be fine.
[18:10] <bin_bash> sipior: And what about all the applications and packages and such that I've installed? Do I lose all of that?
[18:10] <dziadu> sipior: i tried to regenerate ld.cahce but still no success
[18:10] <llutz> !caps | valadares
[18:10] <bin_bash> sipior: What's the best way to back up my packages?
[18:10] <sk3rzzo> what happened to the GDM in Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:10] <sipior> !clone > bin_bash
[18:11] <terry> valadares: What adapter?  What Network Interface are you working on?  (Make and model, lspci will tell you.)
[18:11] <bin_bash> I apologize if my questions seem assinine, as I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, and this is my first time backing up on any system other than OS X. Do I type all of tht into the terminal?
[18:11] <valadares> 11n-ntx-loop
[18:12] <XX> llutz: Where in dhclient.conf does it set the dns?
[18:12] <sipior> dziadu: it should be found in /usr/lib. there's no libX11.so there?
[18:12] <bin_bash> sipior: I apologize if my questions seem assinine, as I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, and this is my first time backing up on any system other than OS X. Do I type all of tht into the terminal?
[18:12] <terry> valadares: lspci | pastebinit
[18:12] <sipior> bin_bash: yep.
[18:12] <terry> valadares: lspci | pastebinit   #Show us the resulting URL.
[18:12] <bin_bash> sipior: when I did that I got no output, am I supposed to get one?
[18:12] <llutz> XX: "prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.4"
[18:12] <dziadu> sipior: no, there is only copy of libX11.so in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
[18:13] <XX> llutz: I'm simply supposed to add that line at the end?
[18:13] <valadares> 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
[18:13] <valadares> 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
[18:13] <valadares> 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
[18:13] <valadares> 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
[18:13] <valadares> 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
[18:13] <FloodBot2> valadares: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <valadares> 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
[18:13] <{{localhost}}> hi i an having some problem with hostapd it keeps doing deauthenticated due to local deauth request
[18:13] <terry> valadares: lspci | pastebinit   #Show us the resulting URL.
[18:13] <llutz> XX: there should be a commented line like that (;prepend...) just remove the ; and add the dns IP
[18:13] <terry> !paste | valadares
[18:14] <terry> valadares: lspci | pastebinit   #Show us the resulting URL.
[18:14] <sipior> dziadu: that's not right. you have the libX11 package installed?
[18:14] <valadares> i have to install it
[18:14] <dziadu> sipior: yes, i was trying to reinstall it many times
[18:14] <llutz> XX: if you're not using dhcp but /etc/network/interfaces, add "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.4" to your device config
[18:14] <hypatia> hey folks, what provides the "Connect to Server" functionality in Ubuntu? is it nautilus?  I'm trying to figure out if one can connect to ssl ftp servers with it.
[18:14] <valadares> http://pastebin.com/6tt3sRF3
[18:15] <valadares> is this?
[18:15] <sipior> dziadu: exactly which package were you reinstalling?
[18:15] <bin_bash> sipior: Am I supposed to get an output from that line?
[18:15] <beniwtv> hypatia: It does exactly that, connect to remote servers over ssh, ftp, etc... and yes, it's nautilus
[18:15] <hypatia> beniwtv: doesn't seem to do ftp/ssl
[18:15] <hypatia> beniwtv: i mean ssl, not ssh :/
[18:15] <valadares> and about capslock: sorry I had stumbled on capslock and had not noticed
[18:15] <ymasory> hi all. apt-add-repository is handy for adding repos, but is there a script for seeing of a repo is already present?
[18:16] <dziadu> sipior: apt-get install --reinstall libx11-dev
[18:16] <sipior> bin_bash: the instructions are pretty clear.
[18:16] <beniwtv> hypatia: Not sure, probably it does ftp only, I dunno, I only use ssh.
[18:16] <bin_bash> sipior: It doesn't seem to make sense to me for some reason
[18:16] <hypatia> beniwtv: i normally only use ssh, but i need to connect to ftp over ssl (ew.
[18:17] <sipior> dziadu: what about grabbing the package libx11-6?
[18:17] <Taev> Ok i installed osm-gps-map and python-osmgpsmap-0.7.2 as creepy required, GDEBI allowed me to install creepy, when i run it i get missing module osmgpsmap, so i did checkinstall for both and created .debs installed them, and reinstalled the creepy deb, and i still get missing module osmgpsmap
[18:17] <Taev> is it possible its being installed to a directory that for some reason when i execute the program it isn't being searched ?
[18:17] <terry> hypatia: ssh is the command you are looking for.  ssh user@192.168.1.51
[18:17] <dziadu> sipior: i also tried to do this
[18:17] <aeon-ltd> not a support question but why isn't there a script written for the channel (or clients) when you paste something over 2 lines to automatically post to pastebin?
[18:17] <bonjoyee> hypatia: what are you looking for?
[18:18] <dziadu> sipior: maybe it helps: i have natty :)
[18:18] <hypatia> terry: please re-read the question, i want ftp over SSL, not ssh :)
[18:18] <beniwtv> hypatia: For FTP, when I had to use it I always used FileZilla (for firefox)
[18:18] <sipior> dziadu: you know what i'm going to say, right?
[18:18] <Taev> c'mon, i know there is a simple command to add a particular directory to the libpaths
[18:18] <terry> human_blip: Or maybe rsync
[18:18] <Taev> i just don't know how
[18:18] <dziadu> sipior: yeah :)
[18:18] <bonjoyee> hypatia: need the server or client?
[18:18] <beniwtv> hypatia: But I don't know if it supports SSL
[18:18] <hypatia> beniwtv: yeah, i'll give a dedicated client a try... i just love the connect to server fonctionality in nautilus :(
[18:18] <mikesanderson78> hello
[18:18] <hypatia> bonjoyee: client
[18:18] <NoSpin> I want to create a shortcut so that I can open a terminal without using the mouse. I looked in keyboard shortcuts and saw that it was already created, but when i push ctrl-alt-t nothing happens... any idea why this isn't working?
[18:18] <hypatia> bonjoyee: the server i'm connecting to requires ssl
[18:19] <terry> human_blip: ftps
[18:19] <terry> hypatia: ftps
[18:19] <bonjoyee> hypatia: filezilla supports ftp over ssl in windows for sure...you could try the linux version...im sure it has that feature..
[18:19] <maco> terry: you mean sftp?
[18:19] <hypatia> terry: yup, that's what i'm trying to do
[18:19] <hypatia> maco: no
[18:20] <beniwtv> hypatia: AFAIK, the glib library does not yet support native SSL, but they are working on it, so nautilus will not support it yet I guess.
[18:20] <hypatia> maco: i  mean FTP over explicit SSL
[18:20] <maco> hypatia: is there a difference in encryption strength that way?
[18:20] <hypatia> beniwtv: that's the info i was looking for, thank you for actually reading my comments and not "explaining" as others here have done :p
[18:20] <bonjoyee> hypatia: try filezilla...it should do it...
[18:20] <hypatia> maco: no, just different protocols
[18:20] <terry> hypatia: sftp not ftps  (sorry)   sftp -- secure file transfer program
[18:20] <hypatia> terry: no, i want ftps.
[18:21] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:21] <winnie_> hello everyone,  quite some time ago i got my gf to switch to ubuntu and she is really happy with it, on sunday i will be installing it on one of her friends computer who, like my gf, is completely computer illiterate. So the most important thing in choosing the right distro is stability. So the question is: should i get her LTS or not?
[18:21] <hypatia> terry: they are different protocols,  please don't assume things.
[18:21] <maco> hypatia: this is confusing -_-
[18:21] <{{localhost}}> hi i an having some problem with hostapd it keeps doing "deauthenticated due to local deauth request"
[18:21] <bonjoyee> hypatia: http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/SSL/TLS#Client_Setup
[18:21] <hypatia> maco: sftp is ftp over ssh.  ftps is ftp over ssl.  not so confusing :)
[18:21] <maco> hypatia: im confused why two are needed :P
[18:21] <NoSpin> no help huh?
[18:21] <beniwtv> maco: sftp is secure FTP (over ssh), ftps is FTP over SSL, not the same
[18:21] <hypatia> maco: because people like different things :)
[18:22] <Pici> hypatia: ftp(e)s is annoying. I've found filezilla to be the only reliable client.  If you're behind any stateful firewalls you may have problems though.
[18:22] <oneliner> how can i store often used commands to execute in shell?
[18:22] <antant> Hey, can anyone tell me what's wrong with this:  /dev/sda3	/home/ant/mnt	ext4	rw,user,auto,uid=ant	0	0
[18:22] <terry> hypatia: FTPS (also known as FTP Secure and FTP-SSL)
[18:22] <winnie_> is there an ubuntu offtopic channel?
[18:22] <Barnabas> maco, two arent needed, but two have ben concieved
[18:22] <antant> in fstab
[18:22] <bin_bash> sipior: Have you heard of Backerupper?
[18:22] <hypatia> terry: are you a bot?
[18:22] <rypervenche> My $LANG is zh_TW (Traditional Chinese), but all of a sudden most of my computer is back in English. It asked me if I wanted to change my default folder names in English. Something is wrong. How can I fix this? I have tried changing my computer's language to English and then back to Chinese, but I still have this problem.
[18:22] <Barnabas> maco, you have the choice
[18:22] <Pici> terry: hypatia is aware what the difference is.
[18:22] <terry> hypatia: No, just a  person.
[18:22] <hypatia> winnie_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:22] <beniwtv> oneliner: They already do... try Ctrl+R to search...
[18:22] <bonjoyee> !ot > winnie_
[18:22] <bastidrazor> oneliner: create aliases for them.
[18:22] <hypatia> terry: then please stop explaining things i already know to me :)
[18:22] <ayecee> antant: perhaps you could tell us what's wrong with it? like, do you get an error when mounting, or what?
[18:22] <sipior> bin_bash: i'm afraid i haven't.
[18:22] <valadares> terry: is this? http://pastebin.com/6tt3sRF3
[18:23] <bin_bash> sipior: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/simple-ubuntu-desktop-backup-with-backerupper.html
[18:23] <terry> Pici: hypatia Sorry, I guess i miss understand the question.
[18:23] <hypatia> oneliner: you can alias stuff in bash, or use ctrl-r to search your bash history
[18:23] <bin_bash> sipior: do you think that would work for me
[18:23] <maco> NoSpin: are you using compiz or metacity? they have different shortcut settings tools
[18:23] <Pici> hypatia: curl can also do it, but I find it a bit messy.
[18:23] <hypatia> terry: clearly :)
[18:23] <antant> ayecee: Yeah, on boot it says it can't mount. Press S to skip or r to recovery manually
[18:23] <winnie_> funny i tried to join that channel hypatia, bonjoyee: thnx
[18:23] <bs_> abountu,if we dont know about bug summary than what is written in bug summary????
[18:23] <ayecee> antant: what happens when you try to mount it later from a command line?
[18:23] <bonjoyee> hypatia: http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/SSL/TLS
[18:23] <sipior> bin_bash: sure, looks fine.
[18:23] <hypatia> Pici: i need to be able to browse, so curl's not ideal - good to know though!
[18:23] <hypatia> bonjoyee: saw that, thanks :)
[18:23] <antant> ayecee: fine. No problem at all
[18:24] <ayecee> antant: does /home exist on its own partition?
[18:24]  * hypatia installs filezilla
[18:24] <maco> bs_: what?
[18:24] <dziadu> sipior: it is not big deal, i can easily fix it by hand but I was wondering if there is another reason than natty
[18:24] <antant> ayecee: and if I use defaults instead of rw,user,auto,uid=ant   it's fine too
[18:24] <geoffmcc> NoSpin: Crtl + Alt + T worked for me.
[18:24] <Arachon> So I managed to mess up network-manager by install and then uninstalling the indicator-network program... Now network-manager doesn't start when I boot the system, and I can't figure out how to start it manually <.<
[18:24] <sipior> dziadu: might be a bug, difficult to say, since i imagine the release is changing fairly quickly at this point.
[18:24] <ayecee> antant: does /home exist on its own partition?
[18:24] <tehnef> sipior: did you reinstall it?
[18:24] <antant> ayecee: no, home is within a partition
[18:25] <sipior> tehnef: reinstall what?
[18:25] <bs_> maco,if we r reporting bug and if we dont know about bug summary than what is written in bug summary box???
[18:25] <dziadu> sipior: but this bug is so obvious that should be fixed ages ago
[18:25] <tehnef> sipior: indicator-network
[18:25] <antant> ayecee: but I've tried to /mnt and /media too and no luck
[18:25] <sipior> tehnef: perhaps you intended that for someone else.
[18:25] <tehnef> heh...yeah. it gets busy in here
[18:25] <ayecee> antant: my guess is that the mountpoint doesn't exist at the moment when it's trying to mount at boot, but it's hard to tell without seeing the rest of the fstab.
[18:25] <tehnef> Arachon: did you reinstall indicator-network?
[18:25] <Pici> !floodbot | valadares
[18:25] <NoSpin> maco: im not sure how do i find out?
[18:25] <maco> bs_: you fill in a one-line explanation of what's wrong
[18:25] <Arachon> tebnef: Nope, I kinda lost network connectivity...
[18:26] <maco> bs_: like "firefox crashes on youtube" for example
[18:26] <maco> NoSpin: is desktop effects turned on?
[18:26] <valadares> right
[18:26] <Arachon> But as far as I rememember,  indicator-network is just an alternative to network-manager... Using another daemon?
[18:26] <bs_> maco,ok thankx
[18:26] <tehnef> Arachon: do you know the details of your network? you can manually specify your settings and route in order to get whatever packages you need back
[18:26] <NoSpin> maco: again not sure. how do i find out?
[18:27] <tehnef> Arachon: re: indicator-network, I'm not sure. one of the first things I do on any ubuntu install is uninstall network-manager
[18:27] <antant> ayecee: http://pastebin.com/dZdft4iX
[18:27] <bin_bash> sipior: the path for my home directory is ~/home correct?
[18:27] <ayecee> tehnef: that's a shame, it's really improved.
[18:27] <antant> ayecee: thanks
[18:27] <rypervenche> How can I fix this problem with my locale? When I type "locale" in my terminal, this is what I get. http://pastebin.com/XS1KHR6v
[18:27] <llutz> bin_bash:  ~ OR /home
[18:27] <brightspark> NoSpin: System>Preferneces>Appearance and the last tab
[18:27] <Arachon> tehnef: What information would I need for my network then?
[18:27] <sipior> bin_bash: just "~"
[18:28] <ayecee> antant: I don't see your line in thist fstab..
[18:28] <tehnef> ayecee: oh i know, it's not too bad, but i need to be able to add virtual ifs and such
[18:28] <NoSpin> normal
[18:28] <geoffmcc> bin_bash:  just ~/
[18:28] <antant> ayecee: it's the /mnt/sda3  line. I tried it to a different location and no luck
[18:28] <tehnef> Arachon: subnet, gateway (router), that's about it
[18:28] <ayecee> antant: i see it now, one sec
[18:28] <sipior> bin_bash: try "echo $HOME" in a terminal, since you'll likely want to use the full path.
[18:28] <NoSpin> maco: normal is the setting, so no they arent turned off i guess
[18:28] <Arachon> tehnef: Hm. I might be able to find that out... I just go into my network settings and specify that manually then?
[18:28] <NoSpin> brightspark: thanks
[18:29] <terry> valadares: Is it the Ethernet Device you are trying to use?  (MCP51 Ethernet Controller)
[18:29] <ayecee> antant: try changing the last number (the "pass") to 2, maybe
[18:29] <Arachon> tehnef: Also, I should note that this is wireless
[18:29] <valadares> no
[18:29] <valadares> my wlan don't appears in lspci
[18:29] <tehnef> Arachon: that likely makes things a bit more difficult
[18:29] <Arachon> tehnef: Bother :c
[18:29] <ayecee> antant: other than that, I can't see what would case that problem, and it's too bad that the actual error is hidden
[18:29] <tehnef> Arachon: do you have the ability to hook up via wire? if so, you should do so until you get this fixed
[18:30] <bin_bash> sipior: Does this look right
[18:30] <bin_bash> http://imgur.com/pCQE8
[18:30] <valadares> terry: no,my wlan adapter don't appears there
[18:30] <Arachon> tehnef: Yeah, that's possible... But seeing as I've got network-manager installed, how would I enable it?
[18:30] <beniwtv> valadares: If it is usb, try lsusb instead
[18:30] <beerios> Does anyone know of a way to get the nvidia-96 drivers working in Natty (amd64)?
[18:30] <Pici> beerios : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[18:30] <antant> ayecee: I'll check out dmesg. it didn't work
[18:30] <beerios> Pici, will do, thanks.
[18:31] <valadares> in lsusb is that: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:8171 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[18:31] <NoSpin> LOL
[18:31] <rypervenche> My computer's language is not working anymore. Here is a pastebin of my "locale" output, http://pastebin.com/XS1KHR6v . I don't know how to fix this.
[18:31] <terry> valadares: Where?  In the network-manager?
[18:31] <valadares> in lsusb
[18:31] <llutz> bin_bash: dest /dev7sdb2 is a device, not a dir
[18:31] <terry> valadares: ifconfig | pastebinit
[18:31] <tehnef> Arachon: as long as your ubuntu install properly sees the NIC and has the drivers, i can walk you through that
[18:31] <sipior> bin_bash: fine, although you would normally specify "/home/<username>". as i imagine you're the only one with a home directory on that machine, there's very little practical difference.
[18:31] <NoSpin> figured it out.. i am using two different keyboard layouts, and it was confused which button was t (for the record I was pushing the 't' button on the active layout)
[18:31] <terry> valadares: ifconfig | pastebinit  #Show us the resulting URL
[18:31] <Arachon> Tehnef: Right, let me get the computer first
[18:31] <bin_bash> sipior: Yeah, I fixed that
[18:31] <bin_bash> sipior: Okay, here goes a try
[18:32] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: did you change the default locale?
[18:32] <antant> ayecee: http://pastebin.com/9Mbs74pE
[18:32] <rypervenche> bonjoyee: I tried changing it to English and back, but the problem remains.
[18:32] <NoSpin> thanks guys
[18:32] <brightspark> I can't open pdfs in Firefox using evince.  Can someone please assist me?
[18:32] <valadares> terry: he ifconfig doesn't detect it
[18:32] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: did you try a reboot after changing it?
[18:32] <rypervenche> bonjoyee: I did.
[18:33] <terry> valadares: SO ifconfig only shows a section for  lo   ?
[18:33] <beniwtv> valadares: try ifconfig -a
[18:33] <ayecee> antant: I don't see anything about sda3 here..
[18:33] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: how did you change the locale?
[18:33] <raven> how to mount a samba dir at startup?
[18:34] <rypervenche> bonjoyee: I used the GUI in "Language Support"
[18:34] <valadares> terry: ifconfig only shows lo and eth0
[18:34] <terry> valadares: Ok what does it say under eth0 ?
[18:34] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[18:34] <terry> valadares: ifconfig | pastebinit
[18:34] <terry> valadares: Show us...
[18:34] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: then reboot...after selecting the required locales...
[18:34] <Arachon> tehnef: Roight, seems like the wired connection isn't working either...
[18:34] <valadares> right
[18:35] <antant> ayecee: http://pastebin.com/meD84Vdk
[18:35] <valadares> terry: http://pastebin.com/P8a4iVTZ
[18:35] <antant> ayecee: it's saying that uid is an unrecognised option
[18:35] <antant> ayecee: or missing value
[18:36] <valadares> beniwtv: ifconfig -a don't works
[18:36] <rypervenche> bonjoyee: It had this to say when I did it, http://pastebin.com/vUaGBteE
[18:36] <ayecee> antant: ah, right. Is uid valid for ext4?
[18:36] <Polah> Is there anything I could run to check if there is a man-in-the-middle attack on my local home network?
[18:36] <llutz> ayecee: it isn't
[18:37] <Pici> Polah: Thats probably a better question for ##networking and/or ##security
[18:37] <XX> Is in.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[18:37] <terry> valadares: Ok, your Ethernet Device  (MCP51 Ethernet Controller) is connected and it's IP address is 192.168.1.3
[18:37] <XX> DaZ: O_o
[18:37] <antant> ayecee: uid valid for ext4?? I thought uid was the user id, which is 1000 (ant)
[18:37] <ayecee> antant: there we go. uid would normally be for filesystems that don't support uid themselves, like vfat.
[18:37] <Pici> XX: A few people have reported that in the past few days, you may want to try an alternate mirror.
[18:37] <beniwtv> valadares: ?? That command is to list all interfaces, even the disabled ones, so if you have no disabled ones if will show the same as ifconfig
[18:37] <DaZ> XX: ?
[18:37] <ayecee> antant: so, it should work if you remove the uid part.
[18:37] <terry> valadares: What is it you are wanting to do?  What is your end goal?
[18:37] <XX> Pici: How do you change the mirror
[18:37] <antant> ayecee: ok, so how do I get write access to it then?
[18:37] <llutz> antant: ext4 is an unix-filesystem, ownership and permissions are set by chmod/chown, not mount-options
[18:37] <ayecee> antant: with chown/chmod
[18:38] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: now see what "locale" says?
[18:38] <terry> valadares: Are you looking for a wifi device?  Is that it?
[18:38] <valadares> terry: i buy a wlan adapter: and i want to do linux detect it
[18:38] <antant> llutz, ayecee: so doing it once will give me write access all the time?
[18:38] <ayecee> antant: yes
[18:39] <yoshi1069> hi i'm new to here! can you introduce you all???
[18:39] <antant> ayecee: Awesome! cheers for the help!
[18:39] <remtodd> has anyone try 11.04
[18:39] <beerios> remtodd, yes, I'm using it now
[18:39] <terry> valadares: What type of wifi adapter is it?  Can you describe it?  Is this a laptop?  If so, is it a wifi card that you plug into the PCI slot?  or.. is it USB?  What is the make and model of it?
[18:39] <raven> how to mount a samba dir at startup?
[18:39] <SwedeMike> remtodd: yes, they hang out in #ubuntu+1
[18:39] <yoshi1069> ...
[18:39] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: ?
[18:39] <aeon-ltd> yoshi1069: thats offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:39] <remtodd> i hang out in a tree
[18:40] <valadares> terry: it's a usb wifi adapter
[18:40] <terry> valadares: Oh ok. Do you have a picture or some sort of description?  What is the make and model?
[18:40] <rypervenche> bonjoyee: It is the same as before
[18:40] <valadares> is that: http://www.google.com.br/imgres?imgurl=http://img1.mlstatic.com/jm/img%3Fs%3DMLB%26f%3D150751513_5466.jpg%26v%3DO&imgrefurl=http://www.emule.com.br/lista.php%3Fkeyword%3DLoops%26pag%3D4%26ordem%3DMAS_OFERTADOS&usg=__dCZkpQX2KpAA37VvMIvV8bPcWtc=&h=374&w=500&sz=17&hl=pt-br&start=2&zoom=1&tbnid=vGzBpM-BjVI-GM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=130&ei=kbyUTfPyKY-50QHxvcn8Cw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dusb-11n-ntx%2Bloop%26hl%3Dpt-br%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D80
[18:40] <valadares> 3%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1
[18:40] <FloodBot2> valadares: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <terry> valadares: lsusb | pastebinit    #And send resulting URL
[18:41] <Pici> XX: You should be able to change it from System>administration>software sources or via a menu in software center.
[18:41] <raven> how to mount a samba dir at startup?
[18:41] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: reboot?
[18:41] <beniwtv> valadares: According to your lsusb from before it's a RTL8188SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[18:42] <yoshi1069> ok i've seen you talkin' about a wi-fi adapter i have ona actually it has been workingwith windows/ubuntu 10.10 witch i'm using now!
[18:42] <rypervenche> bonjoyee: Ok, brb.
[18:42] <valadares> bniwtv: yes, is that
[18:42] <beniwtv> valadares: try modinfo r8192s_usb in a terminal
[18:42] <terry> valadares: Is it plugged in now?  If so, show us the result of lsusb.  i.e.  lsusb | pastebinit
[18:43] <valadares> terry: yes,he is pluged
[18:43] <Guest6796> can anybody tell how to hack an email id
[18:43] <beniwtv> terry: He pasted it above already...
[18:44] <valadares> http://pastebin.com/f2UE2Nyk
[18:44] <yoshi1069> o but (is's a sagem wifi usb adapter) it was'nt working with linux 8.0
[18:44] <rypervenche> bonjoyee: Nothing has changed.
[18:44] <valadares> beniwtv: http://pastebin.com/f2UE2Nyk
[18:45] <valadares> terry: http://pastebin.com/dCgiHJHv
[18:45] <yoshi1069> o than what ubuntu/(any) linux you have "rypervenche"???
[18:45] <bonjoyee> rypervenche: :( ...may be some else has a better idea...please repost you question...
[18:45] <rypervenche> yoshi1069: Ubuntu 10.10
[18:46] <beniwtv> valadares: do you get anything in dmesg when you put it in? If so, please paste that.
[18:46] <yoshi1069> so you might have to contact the shop or linux support...
[18:47] <brightspark> I can't open pdfs in Firefox using evince.  Can someone please assist me?
[18:47] <yoshi1069> ehh o mabye what router are you using????
[18:47] <valadares> beniwtv: http://pastebin.com/GZRqpsmD
[18:47] <terry> valadares: http://csiuo.com/drupal/content/installing-driver-hiro-h50193-wireless-usb-network-adapter-0bda8171-under-ubuntu-910
[18:47] <bastidrazor> brightspark: firefox has a pdf plugin
[18:48] <beniwtv> brightspark: Firefox will download them, you may need to associate firefox with evince.
[18:48] <raven> how to mount a samba dir at startup?
[18:48] <brightspark> I'm using mozplugger nad followed intructions on the forum (I'll get the url in a minute)
[18:48] <Shyster> whats the commands to format/partition a jump drive?
[18:49] <meganerdca> put "\\server\share \mount\point cifs defaults,credentials=path/to/file/with/credentials" in /etc/fstab
[18:49] <brightspark> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25685&page=5
[18:49] <beniwtv> valadares: I do not see it there, remove the device, type dmesg, then plug it in, type dmesg again and post the last lines (the difference)
[18:49] <yoshi1069> sudo something (format (drive):)
[18:50] <meganerdca> raven: don't forget to create that credentials file with username and pass for samba share
[18:50] <terry> yoshi1069:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EvinceMozilla
[18:50] <brightspark> When I click a link to a pdf, the loading icon shows up in the tab for a second, and then it goes away and nothing happens.
[18:50] <meganerdca> Shyster: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1, assuming that sd1 is the flash drive partition you want to format, I also assumed fat32 file system
[18:51] <bin_bash> Has anyone here used File Backup Manager?
[18:51] <meganerdca> Shyster: sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1 would format it with ext2
[18:51] <terry> brightspark: Where?  In firerox?  Or...?
[18:51] <augustl> is it possible to mount afp shares on ubuntu server?
[18:51] <RussellAlan> hey can i make a shortcut on my desktop to perform a sudo command?
[18:51] <bastidrazor> raven: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[18:52] <beniwtv> RussellAlan: yes, use gksudo instead of sudo in the command
[18:52] <brightspark> terry: yes, when I find a pdf on the internet I want it to open in evince within the firefox window.
[18:52] <yoshi1069> o it has reseted ;-|
[18:52] <Shyster> how can i find out what my jump drive is... its mounted as "USB Disk"
[18:52] <RussellAlan> beniwtv,  i mean clicking an icon that will perform a command
[18:52] <raven> bastidrazor, tnx
[18:52] <RussellAlan> do i just create a shortcut or what?
[18:52] <jeregon> hello can any one help because the command make config to configure the kernel doesnt work im using ubuntu
[18:53] <yoshi1069> ...
[18:53] <beniwtv> RussellAlan: Yes, it will ask you for the command of the shortcur, so instead of sudo <yourcommand> use gksudo <yourcommand>
[18:53] <RussellAlan> okay great thanks beniwtv
[18:53] <yoshi1069> what now are you talking about (to much data :-D is going throo "me")??
[18:54] <yoshi1069> (i'm from PL)
[18:54] <jeregon> hello is any one there?
[18:54] <jeregon> hello can any one help because the command make config to configure the kernel doesnt work im using ubuntu
[18:54] <jeregon> hello can any one help because the command make config to configure the kernel doesnt work im using ubuntu
[18:54] <beniwtv> jeregon: Any error message'
[18:55] <ayecee> jeregon: what happens when you try?
[18:55] <bcessa> hi, I'm working on a little terminal program, I'm using dialog to build a simple UI and have a little doubt, is possible to run an operation while a "window" is shown and somehow display the output of the operation inside the window?
[18:55] <meganerdca> jeregon: you might want to be more specific than "it doesn't work"
[18:55] <jeregon> yes give me a sec and ill copy it
[18:55] <jeregon> Makefile:315: /home/jean-claude/linux/linux-2.6.38.2/scripts/Kbuild.include: No such file or directory
[18:55] <jeregon> Makefile:464: /home/jean-claude/linux/linux-2.6.38.2/arch/x86/Makefile: No such file or directory
[18:55] <jeregon> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/jean-claude/linux/linux-2.6.38.2/arch/x86/Makefile'.  Stop.
[18:56] <jeregon> thats the error message
[18:56] <RussellAlan> beniwtv,  i'm running kde right now, and am not sure how to setup a shortcut on the homescreen
[18:56] <yoshi1069> how to install visual studio 2010 and sp1 on ubuntu(10.10)(with the "wine")???
[18:56] <ayecee> jeregon: in the future, please use paste.ubuntu.com for pasting
[18:57] <beniwtv> RussellAlan: I do not use KDE, so no idea, try a right click or something...
[18:57] <jeregon> ok as a comand?
[18:57] <meganerdca> yoshi1069: you might want to check to wine project to see if this is possible.
[18:57] <ayecee> jeregon: no, as a website on which to paste onto.
[18:57] <bonjoyee> yoshi1069: sounds difficult so accomplish....u should look into virtualbox (virtualisation)
[18:57] <eitri> Hi, I've got a windows 7 dvd, and I would like to move it from dvd to usb stick in ubuntu. How to do that? I tried the Make Startup Disk, but it failed claiming it could not find a file when making the stick bootable. It also asked if it was not a Ubuntu disk, which it isn't.
[18:57] <ayecee> jeregon: your kernel source tree may be incomplete, you may need to get a fresh copy.
[18:58] <Arachon> eitri: You might want to use windows tools for that...
[18:58] <yoshi1069> but i don't have a windows i got this ubuntu with the computer
[18:58] <meganerdca> eitri: maybe unetbootin might work, I doubt that the ubuntu tool will do this particular job
[18:58] <ayecee> meganerdca: I'm afraid unetbootin doesn't do windows.
[18:59] <risperdalx> hi guys, i have a problem with add on manager in firefox 4.0.  it hangs whenever i open it
[18:59] <Arachon> ayecee: Yes they do?
[18:59] <risperdalx> anyone has same problem or solution?
[18:59] <appi_uppi> hi, can I use cpulimit tool to reduce the temparature of laptop
[18:59] <ayecee> Arachon: not last time I checked?
[18:59] <eitri> ayecee: Any other suggestion then?
[18:59] <Arachon> ayecee: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:59] <meganerdca> ayecee: it runs on windows, I have never tried to make a bootable Windows USB drive.
[18:59] <Arachon> Or wait
[18:59] <Arachon> ayecee: I think I may have misunderstood you
[18:59] <Stava> Should I edit /usr/sbin/adduser if i want to run a few lines of script when creating a user?
[19:00] <ayecee> Arachon: i think so :)
[19:00] <meganerdca> Stava: should
[19:00] <Arachon> ayecee: My aplogoies :)
[19:00] <Arachon> *apologies
[19:00] <meganerdca> Stava: should?  Probably not.
[19:00] <Shyster> eitri: you should be able to boot off the win7 dvd and install it to the flash drive instead of the hard drive if the flash drive is big enough
[19:00] <Arachon> eitri: Let's see... I think you can use the xcopy tool to do this
[19:00] <Stava> meganerdca, right, how can i run a script when adduser/useradd is called?
[19:00] <Arachon> inside Windows
[19:01] <eitri> Shyster: I can't keyboard doesn't work during boot. So I can't get it to boot from dvd
[19:01] <eitri> Arachon: thx
[19:01] <Arachon> eitri: I'd google it first though, was a while since I read that chapter in my cert book >.>
[19:02] <eitri> Arachon: Will do. Thanks for the help
[19:02] <bonjoyee> has yoshi left? this looks promising http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-a-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux
[19:02] <Arachon> Does anyone know where the network-manager app is stored on the HDD?
[19:02] <brightspark> I've had no luck with the link you sent, terry.
[19:03] <meganerdca> Arachon: what are you looking for, the startup script or something else?
[19:03] <risperdalx>  i have a problem with add on manager in firefox 4.0.  it hangs whenever i open it. any one has the same problem or got a solution?
[19:03] <thevishy> how to install 7z
[19:03] <valadares> beniwtv: http://pastebin.com/MPJ4QBKb
[19:03] <Arachon> meganerdca: Truth be told, I don't know... The icon in the panel says that "network manager is not running", and "enable networking" is greyed out
[19:03] <Grav> Why is ubuntu killing processes instead of clearing memory when it's at max ?
[19:03] <brightspark> I can't open pdfs in Firefox using evince.  I'm using mozplugger, but all that happens is I get the loading icon in the tab for a second and then it disappears.
[19:03] <meganerdca> thevishy: sudo aptitude install p7zip-full
[19:04] <Caxe>  hello
[19:04] <thevishy> thnx
[19:04] <meganerdca> Arachon: probably need to start it with "sudo start network-manager"
[19:04] <Caxe> can any 1 answer a quick question of mine
[19:04] <ruan> Caxe: sure
[19:05] <Arachon> meganerdca: That gets me "unknown job: network-manager"
[19:05] <th0r> Caxe: 3
[19:05] <kso> o/
[19:05] <Caxe> i just recently installed xubuntu, Is there any way for me to transfer or use the files and compatible  *if any* programs i had for windows 7 on here?
[19:05] <thevishy> my minimize max exit buttons are on left side how to c hange to right
[19:05] <maco> Arachon: if you "ls /etc/init.d/" do you see network-manager or maybe NetworkManager? (its named differently in different releases)
[19:06] <Arachon> Caxe: That depends, did you overwrite your entire HDD?
[19:06] <brightspark> thevishy: alt-F2 gconf-editor
[19:06] <Caxe> not sure if i did that, I just installed it with Wubi
[19:06] <Arachon> maco: Yes, network-manager is there
[19:06] <bcessa> anyone?
[19:06] <maco> Arachon: try it with "sudo service network-manager start" instead
[19:06] <brightspark> thevishy: apps>metacity>general
[19:06] <pull_two> Caxe ; sure. Try googling wine
[19:07] <pull_two> Caxe : also, crossover for linux
[19:07] <Caxe> kk thx
[19:07] <brightspark> thevishy: then change the order of the words in button_layout
[19:07] <Arachon> maco: That gives me "Rather invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service blahblahblah...  then start: Unknown job: network-manager"
[19:07] <pull_two> Caxe ; anyhow, for most files, like docs and movies, u can use them normally in ubuntu like u use it in windows
[19:08] <valadares> beniwtv: http://pastebin.com/cq6c9jyt
[19:08] <thevishy> brightspark, thanks I need to put the : to the left side
[19:08] <maco> Arachon: O_o odd that itd tell you instead of doing thing-you-didnt-do, do thing-you-did-do... sounds pretty broken. maybe reinstall network manager?
[19:09] <Caxe> http://www.winehq.org/download/   which one do i pick?
[19:09] <KramB> What is a good Notepad++ alternative?
[19:09] <jeppy> editpad pro
[19:09] <th0r> KramB: search for editors in synaptic
[19:10] <kso> How can I keep the output of a previous command visible in a Terminal window?  ie: after I "less" a file and then hit "q" I'm taken back to a prompt, with none of the "less" output visible any more...
[19:10] <Arachon> maco: Problem is, I don't have any network connectivity, so if I uninstall it, it'll go poof
[19:10] <bonjoyee> kso: try cat
[19:11] <kso> bonjoyee: well, less is just an example; i was using "mtr" and wanted to copy the output
[19:11] <maco> Arachon: do you have a wired connection? if so:   sudo ifconfig eth0 up ; sudo dhclient eth0       <-- thatll set up your wired connection without invoking network manager
[19:11] <pankaj_sharma> #join ##c
[19:11] <th0r> kso: why not pipe the output to a text file?
[19:12] <valadares> terry: this link:http://csiuo.com/drupal/content/installing-driver-hiro-h50193-wireless-usb-network-adapter-0bda8171-under-ubuntu-910 don't works
[19:12] <kso> th0r: "mtr" doesn't work that way...
[19:12] <llutz> kso: LESS=-X     keeps less output visible
[19:12] <kso> llutz: nope
[19:12] <llutz> yes
[19:13] <valadares> terry: i try that: http://csiuo.com/drupal/content/installing-driver-hiro-h50193-wireless-usb-network-adapter-0bda8171-under-ubuntu-104
[19:13] <maco> kso: "more" doesn't clear the screen when you hit q
[19:13] <abahkaiyisah> hi all
[19:13] <kso> llutz: heheh i just tried it, didn't work, but thanks...  :)
[19:13] <abahkaiyisah> how to resize 10GB partition using parted ?
[19:13] <bonjoyee> abahkaiyisah: is it empty?
[19:14] <kso> maco: correct, but doesn't really solve the "mtr" problem...
[19:14] <valadares> terry: appears wireless networks but appears that is not manageable
[19:14] <abahkaiyisah> bonjoyee: it's not empty, it's filesystem
[19:15] <bonjoyee> abahkaiyisah: you mean the root partition for ubuntu?
[19:15] <Arachon> maco: That gives me "No DHCPOFFERS received" "No Working leases in persistent database - sleeping" and no connectivity
[19:15] <maco> kso: try using -c 10       to make it only update 10 times? maybe then the last one will go to pipe?
[19:15] <abahkaiyisah> bonjoyee: yes that's what i mean
[19:15] <maco> Arachon: no dhcp server?
[19:15] <Arachon> Er, I *should* have one... I mean, I'm getting IP-adresses for the other computers on the network...
[19:15] <bonjoyee> abahkaiyisah: then you need a livecd..you cant resize a mounted partition..
[19:16] <maco> kso: mmm taht seems not to work
[19:16] <kso> maco: thing is i think i ran into this before, and it's something in Bash clearing the screen after commands...  doesn't work this way on my debian machine; trying to find the difference
[19:16] <maco> kso: mtr uses escape sequences to over-write its output over and over. you'll get a file full of the escape sequences
[19:17] <kso> maco: that's why i was saying mtr doesn't work that way :D
[19:17] <abahkaiyisah> o i see. the target should not be mounted
[19:17] <maco> kso: but just in answer to the bit at *first* about less clearing when you exit it... use more
[19:17] <maco> kso: as to making mtr work with a pager *at all* -- i dont think that's possible
[19:17] <kso> i have a work-around: just do all this from my work box...  was just trying to learn about bash
[19:18] <kso> maco: hehe i don't want to page the output
[19:18] <kso> maco: i just don't want it to go away when i exit the program
[19:18] <maco> kso: im confused then
[19:18] <tgm4883> Where does squid-deb-proxy download updates from?
[19:18] <Guest61303> hey guys does anyone here understand about the rsyslog setting in ubuntu?
[19:19] <maco> kso: hmm if you do "mtr -r" then it will print to the console with you ctrl+D
[19:20] <tgm4883> Guest61303, what about rsyslog? What setting?
[19:20] <kso> maco: http://pastebin.com/eyesW9Jy
[19:20] <gordon_> can someone help me im new to ubuntu and im trying to set it up
[19:20] <bonjoyee> !anyone | Guest61303
[19:21] <wissem> hi all
[19:21] <gordon_> hey
[19:21] <gordon_> wissem
[19:21] <gordon_> could u help  me
[19:21] <maco> kso: this isnt a bash problem. this is how less works. less clears on exit. more does not. if you use "less -e" then you get behaviour similar to more. possibly your debian system is configured to always run less with -e?
[19:21] <wissem> if i can
[19:21] <Arachon> maco: I tried dhclient again, still nothing
[19:21] <wissem> what is your problem ?
[19:21] <gordon_> im complety new to ubuntu
[19:21] <gordon_> and im trying to set it up with no sucess
[19:21] <maco> Arachon: and it's plugged in with a wired connection to your router?
[19:21] <maco> Arachon: and the interface is up?
[19:22] <Arachon> maco: Yup
[19:22] <tehnef> Arachon: sorry, i can help now. stepped away for lunch
[19:22] <wissem> gordon_: what is the problem ?
[19:22] <tehnef> Arachon: unless you want to stick with maco
[19:22] <kso> maco: ok thanks for the help!
[19:22] <maco> Arachon: if network manager was running thisd make sense, but... *puzzle*
[19:22] <Arachon> tehnef: The more the merrier :3
[19:22] <tehnef> Arachon: you can put yourself on the network temporarily by going to the terminal...do you have your network details?
[19:22] <Guest61303> I am using trying to configure ubuntu rsyslog, it comes with default mail setteing like mail.info, mail.error, ubuntu use file include, with setting like, 50-default.conf, I would like to know if would be possible rewrite this rule including another file like 70-mysetttings.conf? would it be possible ?
[19:23] <boykin_> I was wondering if anyone knew how to export a save file, or where to find save files for Desmume (The DS Emu)?
[19:23] <brightspark> I can't open pdfs in Firefox using evince.  I'm using mozplugger, but all that happens is I get the loading icon in the tab for a second and then it disappears.
[19:23] <Arachon> tehnef: If you mean such things as subnet, DNS server & gateway, yes
[19:23] <trond-> hi. I have a computer here with me where the harddisk is making not the healthiest noises in the world. I have created an ubuntu usb boot following the description on ubuntu, but this does access the harddisk, is there a way to run ubuntu straight of an usb disk?
[19:23] <tehnef> Arachon: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.7 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1
[19:23] <bonjoyee> brightspark: why not  just use the "open with" dialog in firefox?
[19:24] <tehnef> Arachon: substituting the information with info reflective of YOUR network
[19:24] <Arachon> roight
[19:24] <Digits> Is it possible to get rid of Unity in 11.04? I'm not feeling this "new" UI design.
[19:24] <tehnef> Arachon: the first address is the IP you're giving your laptop. the netmask should work even if it isn't 100% correct, unless your router is on a different subnet
[19:24] <maco> !natty | Digits
[19:25] <rypervenche> I just fixed my locale problem by doing "sudo localegen zh_TW.UTF-8" (I think it was...), and then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales". However, now when I start my computer neither nautilus nor gnome-panel start. My CPU usage is at 100% and I see that dbus-daemon has 2 instances running. What can I do to fix this?
[19:26] <Arachon> tehnef: that gives me "gw: Unknown host", even though both subnet and gateway is correct
[19:26] <tehnef> leave off the gw part
[19:26] <tehnef> Arachon: leave off the gw part
[19:26] <tehnef> Arachon: then try pinging your gateway address...does it work?
[19:26] <tehnef> Arachon: do you know basic network stuff like ping?
[19:27] <Arachon> tehnef: Yeah, I can't reach it with ping
[19:27] <zee313> adobe reader installed but not working?
[19:27] <tehnef> Arachon: what are your net details? if you want you can /query me and tell me that way
[19:28] <coz_>  hey all
[19:28] <Arachon> tehnef: Just the different IPs etc?
[19:28] <tehnef> Arachon: yeah
[19:28] <rypervenche> When I start my computer neither nautilus nor gnome-panel start. My CPU usage is at 100% and I see that dbus-daemon has 2 instances running. What can I do to fix this?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> zee313: how did you install it?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: try killing a dbus daemon
[19:29] <brightspark> bonjoyee: I'm trying to get the file to open in the browser, instead of saving it to my computer and opening it separately.  This worked up until last month.
[19:29] <zee313> at that side downloaded the software the open it in ubuntu software center
[19:30] <An_Ony_Moose> I'm currently running a somewhat messed-up mix of ubuntu netbook edition and ubuntu desktop edition on this machine. Which packages do I need to install/remove to switch everything to xubuntu (including less important elements like the boot splash) without reinstalling?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Zee313: do you mean "site"? As in "website"
[19:31] <zee313>  adobe website
[19:32] <dosiris> mais je veux aller sur ubuntu.fr
[19:32] <thevishy> !france
[19:32] <dosiris> MAIS JE VEUX ALLER SUR UBUNTU.FR
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> An_Ony_Moose: you can install xfce4 and get just the DE or you can install xubuntu-desktop to go full fat
[19:33] <tehnef> Arachon: alo?
[19:33] <thevishy> dosiris, this is an english support here
[19:33] <Arachon> tehnef: hm?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Zee313: ok so is it in your applications menu someplace?
[19:33] <tehnef> Arachon: do you still need help?
[19:33] <Starminn> Virtual terminals (F1-F6) are fine, but when I go to the GUI (F7), it gets stuck on "Checking battery state..." I'm on a desktop... :/
[19:34] <thevishy> when is 11.04 releasing
[19:34] <Arachon> tehnef: Certainly... Did you not get the query message?
[19:34] <thevishy> !release
[19:34] <tehnef> Arachon: no. hold.
[19:34] <zee313> application menu>Office
[19:34] <coz_> dosiris,    ou vous entrz ici,  maintenant,  tapez  /join #ubuntu-fr .... oui?
[19:34] <An_Ony_Moose> ActionParsnip: and which packages do I remove to get rid of netbook edition and desktop edition (ex. I don't want to have unity or metacity, which packages depend on these so they become autoremovable?)
[19:34] <thevishy> I believe Ubuntu is going to use gnome 3 for the next release
[19:34] <coz_> dosiris,  pardon  ,,, ou vous entrez
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Zee313: and what happens when you click it?
[19:35] <thevishy> do I need to install a new ubuntu when 11.04 releases?
[19:35] <coz_> thevishy,  you mean ubuntu 11.04 ?
[19:35] <Starminn> !natty > thevishy
[19:35] <thevishy> yes
[19:36] <coz_> thevishy,   well  I never suggest upgrading although many do ... I prefer  clean installs for many reasons
[19:36] <Starminn> thevishy: But no, you don't *need* to install it.
[19:36] <An_Ony_Moose> ActionParsnip: any idea why xubuntu-desktop wants kernel headers?
[19:36] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: I tried that and it basically froze my screen. I have managed to get gnome-panel and nautilus to run with some luck, but the two instances of dbus-daemon are still running and my computer's CPUs are at 100%.
[19:36] <coz_> thevishy,  but gnome 3  is not the default in  ubuntu 11.04
[19:36] <zee313> doesn't open the software
[19:36] <thevishy> Right I was wondering since gnome3 is being incorporated to it
[19:36] <nino> hi all, im spawning a terminal using gnome-terminal -x 'command' however it closes after the command finishes, any idea how i can keep it open?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> An_Ony_Moose: not sure dude but tread very carefully with removes or you may remove all the desktop stuff
[19:36] <thevishy> Right
[19:37] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: Also, I have no sound and all of my gnome-panel buttons (weather, shutdown, sound, etc) are not working.
[19:37] <coz_> thevishy,  if you want to use gnome3  now you can install the pre release of fedora
[19:37] <An_Ony_Moose> ActionParsnip: I want to remove the standard ubuntu desktop and leave only xubuntu stuff behind
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> An_Ony_Moose: not sure. Could ask in #xubuntu
[19:37] <thevishy> maybe I will reinstall also
[19:37] <Starminn> coz_: (Or install the Gnome Shell on Ubuntu)
[19:37] <rypervenche> nino: Add & disown to the end
[19:37] <thevishy> ok thanks
[19:37] <An_Ony_Moose> ActionParsnip: I might do that, for now I'll just install xubuntu then see
[19:38] <An_Ony_Moose> thanks for the help ActionParsnip
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> thevishy: gnome3 is in natty repos. Discussion of natty is in #ubuntu+1
[19:38] <thevishy> while reinstalling I can specify to install on the current ubuntu partition ? Keeping my windows intact though
[19:38] <thevishy> ofcourse thanks AceKing
[19:38] <thevishy> ActionParsnip,
[19:38] <coz_> Starminn,  well ,, you could  do that however,, in 11.04  Unity is the default not gnome-shell..and gnome-shell uses mutter as the compositor while Unity replaced mutter with  compiz
[19:39] <Starminn> coz_: no, I mean on 10.10. I've done it.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> thevishy: use custom partitioning a
[19:39] <coz_> Starminn,  yes of course :)  but then you will be using mutter  and last I tested that it was a resource hog !
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> *and you'll be ok
[19:39] <Starminn> coz_: Ah.
[19:40] <coz_> Starminn,  and also you cant use compiz
[19:40] <mark76> Q; Has the Nvidia mcp61 audio chipset on 64 bit Ubuntu been fixed yet?
[19:40] <thevishy> right ActionParsnip my steps would be to remove the *Ubuntu * partitions using delete and then go for installation I suppose ---- but what about the option of creating grub ?
[19:40] <thevishy> right ActionParsnip my steps would be to remove the *Ubuntu * partitions using delete and then go for installation I suppose ---- but what about the option of creating grub ??
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> thevishy: that's all handled :-)
[19:41] <mark76> Errata
[19:41] <thevishy> But where does that happen ?
[19:41] <anygivenename> does anyone know what are the requirements to use my ubuntu machine to dial local numbers when I connect to it remotely from abroad ?
[19:41] <mark76> Q; Has the Nvidia mcp61 audio chipset problem on 64 bit Ubuntu been fixed yet?
[19:41] <nestor> need help... one channel for ubuntu in spanish?
[19:41] <coz_> An_Ony_Moose,    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[19:42] <An_Ony_Moose> thanks coz_
[19:42] <thevishy> during initial stages I delete the ubuntu partition etc ...and during the instllation end - Ubuntu asks for Grub creation by scanning the OS'es ?
[19:42] <coz_> An_Ony_Moose,  no problem
[19:42] <thevishy> I mean I want to know where the reconciliation happens to be safe :)
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> An_Ony_Moose: if you have all the netbook stuff and all the desktop it may benefit you to fresh install xubuntu for that fresh taste
[19:43] <arkanabar> I'm looking for a feed reader that provides a list of timestamped links I can click to launch in my preferred browser.  Any suggestions?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !rss
[19:43] <thevishy> Ubuntu is much better than Windows XP for my netbook
[19:44] <anygivenename> does anyone know what are the requirements to use my ubuntu machine to dial local numbers when I connect to it remotely from abroad ?
[19:44] <coz_> An_Ony_Moose,   just in case that doesnt copy over well  here is the entire command    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/remove%20ubuntu.txt
[19:44] <thevishy> and XP comes bundled with Acer , I wonder why Acer is bundling it lol
[19:44] <eduNetwork> h4rd l13k 175 50 2 r34d 4nd wr173 0mg
[19:44] <Tamagotchi-0P> what edu said
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> ActionParsnip: fresh installs are painful on this machine, since it has no CD drive and getting it to boot off USB is a pain too
[19:44] <eduNetwork> google - translate
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> coz_: thanks... but that doesn't give anything about UNE >.<
[19:45] <thevishy> coz_, at what stage does Ubuntu create a grub during a fresh install ?  Does it happen near the end of the installation ?
[19:46] <coz_> thevishy,  yes near the end of the installation if I am not mistaken
[19:46] <arkanabar> thevishy, I'd think it'd have to, to save configuration into your /boot directory.
[19:46] <thevishy> right , so my deleting the paritions would not lead to a incomplete / misconfigured grub
[19:46] <thevishy> right ...so its like all installations removals of OS done and then in the end reconcile
[19:47] <thevishy> coz_, so deleting paritions for a fresh install is safe way
[19:47] <arkanabar> thevishy, there is also "sudo update-grub" for all your grub reconfiguring needs.
[19:47] <Joadri> Hi Guys :)  I have a question: how can I burn several (4 or 5) avi files in a single dvd in Ubuntu, that I can play in a dvd player capable of reading avi files?
[19:47] <thevishy> non windows partitions
[19:47] <thevishy> right
[19:47] <Starminn> Virtual terminals (F1-F6) are fine, but when I go to the GUI (F7), it gets stuck on "Checking battery state..." I'm on a desktop... :/
[19:47] <llutz> Joadri: just create a data-dvd holding your files
[19:47] <thevishy> using a DVD creator should do it no Joadri
[19:47] <arkanabar> I'm looking for a feed reader that provides a list of timestamped links I can click to launch in my preferred browser -- and nothing else.  Any suggestions?
[19:48] <coz_> thevishy,  well if you are going to keep the windows partition,, it may not be necessary to actually delete the ubuntu partition,, but sure you can do that
[19:48] <Joadri> Data? Okay. It will be easy. Bracero can do it, but I wasn't sure the dvd player would see them.
[19:48] <mark76> Okay. In a nutshell. Why doesn't my audio in work?
[19:48] <kitty0230> because the shell blocks the sound
[19:49] <thevishy> coz_, when i start installing the 11.04 using USB , I would have to select some paritions drives ..or  will ubuntu intelligently decide to over write the 10.10 version ?
[19:49] <kitty0230> and you cant fit the hardware into a nutshell,
[19:49] <llutz> Joadri:if in doubt: try it using dvd+rw
[19:49] <coz_> mark76,  did you open terminal...  alsamixer   to see if any sliders are muted or turned down ?
[19:49] <thevishy> coz_, does ubuntu do a upgrade installation by removing the older on
[19:49] <Joadri> I thing that's what i have at home. I will try tonight.
[19:49] <coz_> thevishy,  I would assume it is going to overwrite it ,,, yes
[19:49] <mark76> Yes. And the important one is unmuted
[19:50] <arkanabar> thevishy, upgrading to a new release actually changes your repo list and then updates all your software to versions in the new repo
[19:50] <thevishy> I see ...then it would be great
[19:50] <coz_> thevishy,  it should be fine ,, yes
[19:50] <ssfdre38> so what is the date for 11.04?
[19:50] <kitty0230> question:  i have a ubuntu install that i want to migrate to xubuntu, how do i do that while maintain file system, and getting rid of all gnome artifacts
[19:50] <thevishy> arkanabar, thats fine . But say I am using a USB of an ISO ....will it intelligently overwrite by existing partition
[19:50] <Starminn> !natty > ssfdre38
[19:51] <arkanabar> kitty0230, that's tricky, as gnome and xfce both use GTK+ toolkit.
[19:51] <coz_> thevishy,  if you plan on just "upgrading" your current install,, then it could get dicey  although many would disagree with me,,, install fresh,, it will overwrited the current ubuntu
[19:51] <llutz> kitty0230: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[19:51] <coz_> thevishy,  just back up the files you need or want to save
[19:51] <thevishy> coz_, ok :)
[19:51] <Punkoff> Could someone please share his config of Bacula? Need some example to follow
[19:52] <arkanabar> thevishy, if you're installing, when you get to partitioning make sure to format the partition you select to do that.
[19:52] <coz_> Punkoff,  ah darn I dont have that here
[19:52] <thevishy> Right
[19:52] <arkanabar> but if you have an installation you want to update, you shouldn't need an installer -- just bandwidth.
[19:52] <Starminn> Virtual terminals (F1-F6) are fine, but when I go to the GUI (F7), it gets stuck on "Checking battery state..." Any suggestions? Ubuntu 10.10 on a desktop. Needs a hard reboot to work again.
[19:52] <coz_> thevishy,  you understand that 11.04  is going to default to the Unity desktop not the Gnome desktop....yes?
[19:52] <Janhouse> How can I disable "has left the conversation" in empathy?
[19:52] <thevishy> Unity ?
[19:53] <thevishy> no I didnt get that ...is Unity not Gnome ?
[19:53] <mark76> I need someone who knows what an nvidia mcp61 chipset is to speak up
[19:53] <arkanabar> coz_, yes, but they plan to make reversion fairly simple, I think.
[19:53] <coz_> thevishy,   yes  go online and google   or youtube   ubuntu 11.04
[19:53] <Janhouse> it is shown when I close window
[19:53] <Janhouse> it is sent to other users
[19:53] <coz_> arkanabar,  you can get to gnome desktop in sessions as you log on
[19:53] <thevishy> will do thanks , so is Ubuntu giving up on gnome for now ?
[19:53] <zee313> tell me any good voice converter from .wav to mp3
[19:53] <arkanabar> coz_, ah, so GDM handles it.  simple enough to set as default there, neh?
[19:53] <coz_> thevishy,  no  it is just a session change
[19:54] <thevishy> meaning ?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> thevishy: after first install, log on to regular desktop and not unity and you'll be fine. Regular desktop is available by default
[19:54] <coz_> arkanabar,  yes sort of but some things have changed in gnome on the next release... you would have to actually use it to see the differences
[19:54] <thevishy> Right
[19:54] <thevishy> unity is a Desktop Environment ?
[19:54] <thevishy> or something minimal
[19:54] <coz_> thevishy,  netbook
[19:55] <thevishy> netbook thing ---- omg lol I didnt like it :)
[19:55] <jbwiv_> anyone know of a good, central mailing list that broadcasts open source vulnerabilities as they are disclosed?
[19:55] <lol> yes thevishy ?
[19:55] <coz_> thevishy,  however,,, the best channel to be in for 11.04  is  #ubuntu+1  which the official channel for pre releases
[19:55] <thevishy> thanks yes
[19:56] <thevishy> lol , lol , not for you
[19:56] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Do you have any suggestions for my issue with resuming GUI from virtual terminals?
[19:56] <foo-nix> I have a site running on port 8000 which I want to test on ie, on another machine in the 192.168.2.* network. If I type 192.168.2.118 (laptop-ip) I get apache but I I browse to 192.168.2.1:8000 the site does not load. localhost:8000 does work though.
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> thevishy: its different, try it. Its a bit clunky at first but after you set it up its ok
[19:56] <foo-nix> I have tried to 'allow 8000' in ufw, but this had no effect
[19:56] <foo-nix> 'deny 80' did shutdown apache on the other computer though.
[19:56] <foo-nix> what else could block 8000?
[19:57] <thevishy> great right ,  I felt its sort of slow :) and I am using netbook only ....Gnome is much better for me
[19:57] <arkanabar> I'm looking for a feed reader that provides a list of timestamped links I can click to launch in my preferred browser -- and nothing else.  Any suggestions?
[19:57] <Punkoff> foo-nix, try telnet <ip> 8000 to test if connection is forbidden or it's an apache problem
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> foo-nix: any firewall configs in place?
[19:57] <foo-nix> Punkoff, I don't run the site on apache but on django (python)
[19:57] <thevishy> but I will revisit it since people are recommending that
[19:57] <foo-nix> ActionParsnip, how can I list all the rules?
[19:57] <divadgnol67> @arkanabar liferea may do the trick
[19:57] <Punkoff> foo-nix, !
[19:58] <bleything> I'm having a problem with openssl wherein it doesn't seem to be checking /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt for CA certs by default. I'm not sure whether there's a more appropriate channel... any help?
[19:58] <arkanabar> divadgnol67, so I can disable the reading pane?
[19:58] <Punkoff> foo-nix, by default ./manage.py runserver won't expose the site tp network
[19:58] <mark76> I wish someone would write a driver for the mcp61
[19:58] <Punkoff> foo-nix, use runserver <ip>:8000
[19:58] <foo-nix> Punkoff, ah, also, telnet refuses to connect. So I should tamper with the settings of manage.py
[19:58] <foo-nix> Punkoff, thanx
[19:58] <divadgnol67> not sure but it is very configurable. i will check and report back
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | foo-nix shows default output expected
[19:59] <jiltdil> how to merge two files?
[19:59] <foo-nix> Punkoff, thanx
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: try adding the bootoption 'noacpi' see if it helps
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: what sort of files?
[20:00] <foo-nix> Punkoff, works, thanx. so runserver didn't accept connections which were not localhost
[20:00] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip:test files
[20:01] <jiltdil> text*
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: cat file1 file2 > result
[20:01] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Do I have to boot to GRUB and edit it from there to do so?
[20:01] <shadaloo> hi
[20:01] <jiltdil> Actionparsnip:thanks
[20:02] <shadaloo> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic (--configure):
[20:02] <shadaloo> everytime I try to update my system I get this error
[20:02] <shadaloo> any ideas before I head to google
[20:02] <spaceninja> hi, how can I generate a windows entry with grub-mkconfig?
[20:02] <spaceninja> I got windows on the second harddrive
[20:02] <lvh> Hi. What's the magic bunch of keypresses for installing a ubuntu server specifically for vms?
[20:03] <divadgnol67> @arkanabar yes you can disable the reading pane and have all links open in your browser of choice.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: you can do it from your tty. Edit /etc/default/grub  and then run: sudo update-grub   to test
[20:03] <lvh> I seem to remember a VM-specific install that had stuff like special disk drivers... etc
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> spaceninja: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Lvh: if its a virtual system then you don't need special stuff, especially for a server install
[20:05] <bearly230> I hope this is a quick easy question. I have multipul computers that I need to keep data files synced between. Whats the easyest way to do this?
[20:05] <bearly230> oops I'm running 10.10
[20:06] <DJones> bearly230: For that, I use dropbox
[20:06] <Fuchs> bearly230: unison would be a possibility
[20:06] <bearly230> DJones does that run in the background or do I have to manually do it?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> bearly230: rsync is a good way to sync user data
[20:06] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: And if it doesn't work I'll still be able to boot to GNOME DE fine?
[20:06] <DJones> bearly230: It just creates a folder in /home that you can drop files into that you want to sync between different machines
[20:07] <bearly230> ActionParsnip: Problem with rsync is it only works 1 way.
[20:07] <divadgnol67> @bearly23 easy is a relative term but someone with little to no knowledge could use dropbox or ubuntu's built in software
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: you just disabled the power management, that's all
[20:07] <erUSUL> bearly230: traditionaly that problem has been solved with a *file* *server*
[20:07] <divadgnol67> rsync is great too but requires some knowledge
[20:07] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Oh, okay, that makes perfect sense.
[20:07] <DJones> bearly230: Its also cross platform, I use it between multiple ubuntu & windows machines
[20:07] <bearly230> For one of the machines I will have to make it more complicated. Have to do it over ssh.
[20:07] <spaceninja> ActionParsnip, thanks but it didn't add anything about windows, strange
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> whats the best package for encrypting a folder in ubuntu?
[20:08] <lvh> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_as_Guest_OS
[20:08] <lvh> ActionParsnip: Click the F4 (modes) key -> Install a minimal virtual machine ->
[20:08] <bearly230> I run NFS shares localy but need to make sure laptops can be taken on the road. Along with keep remote server updated.
[20:09] <spaceninja> ActionParsnip, I'll try rebooting the computer
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> bearly230: unison and dropbox have been suggested too. Dropbox is good and a free account may be enough depending on data amount
[20:09] <lvh> ActionParsnip: You end up with, IIRC, some different video drivers, some different hard disk drivers
[20:09] <lvh> all of which lead to measurable performance differences
[20:09] <zertyui> hello there
[20:09] <lvh> however, I can not find the mode that wiki page talks about in the 10.10 installer
[20:09] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Where in that file do I put that?
[20:09] <divadgnol67> everyone say hello to zertyui
[20:09] <zertyui> how to change the window minize close button to the right like windows ?
[20:10] <zertyui> what i have to do ?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Lvh: for server, video drivers are moot as its a text interface
[20:10] <Starminn> zertyui: System->Appearance, click
[20:10] <cannonfodder> anyways i was here earlier asking how to get a bootable windows usb out of ubuntu, and people said it couldnt be done...so i was looking at unetbootin and found that ophcrack had a windows xp- live cd version...just want to know if anyone has tried using this method to get windows on a flash drive?
[20:10] <xangua> !controls | zertyui
[20:10] <bearly230> ActionParsnip: Dropbox would be a good idea however the total data is going to be quite large.
[20:10] <lvh> ActionParsnip: Sure. Schedulers and hard disk drivers, not so much.
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !controls | zertyui
[20:10] <xangua> cannonfodder: /join #windows
[20:11] <Guest2403> how do I restart gnome?
[20:11] <lvh> ActionParsnip: (Not to mention that it's a bit pointless that you have some software on one end that tries to talk to an S3, and some software on the other that tries to look like one)
[20:11] <bearly230> ActionParsnip: Once it's been synced first time. Then not much bandwidth needs to be used.
[20:11] <zertyui> i m not sure you get
[20:11] <zertyui> what i mean
[20:11] <cannonfodder> xangua this is the correct channel...i just wanna know if anyone has got it done...supposedly its impossible to get windows xp bootable on a flash drive from ubuntu
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Lvh: i suggest you ask in the channel related to the technology you intended to use
[20:11] <divadgnol67> zertyui, you can simply change the default theme to something else and it will revert back to the right hand side, i think??
[20:11] <zertyui> i simply want to display of my window
[20:11] <zertyui> on the right
[20:11] <lvh> ActionParsnip: which one is that? #ubuntu-server?
[20:11] <zertyui> what i have tod o ?
[20:11] <xangua> zertyui: the bot already told you how
[20:11] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Where do I place "noacpi" in the /edit/default/grub file?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> lvh: no i
[20:12] <divadgnol67> zertyui, we just told you how. several times.
[20:12] <Starminn> zertyui: Change your theme (System->Appearance) or if you want to be complicated with it and make all themes go to the right, follow the bot's advice
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> In #vmware or #vbox or whatever tech you are using
[20:12] <shadaloo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:12] <shadaloo> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[20:12] <shadaloo> hi
[20:12] <shadaloo> this kernel keeps failing to upgrade
[20:12] <shadaloo> how do I remove it?
[20:12] <FloodBot2> shadaloo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <Starminn> !enter | shadaloo
[20:13] <shadaloo> Setting up linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic (2.6.35-25.44) ...
[20:13] <shadaloo> it just fails everytime
[20:13] <gechmog> Hi everyone! I am trying to learn ssh and I want to log into my server with ssh remotely.  Here is the command I have read that i am supposed to do: user@your-server-ip-address.  Now, where do I find the server ip address and what if it is the server that i am logging into, does that make a difference?
[20:13] <LULLING_HARD> When 10.10 users upgrade to 11.04 what happens to Gnome?  Does it get replaced by Unity automatically or is Unity installed alongside Gnome?  I am talking about those of us who do upgrades and not fresh installs.
[20:13] <divadgnol67> why are you upgrading your kernel? it is because the new kernel offers support the old one does not?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> zertyui: you do realize there are millions of guides regarding moving the controls. Have you not researched any prior to asking?
[20:14] <Starminn> LULLING_HARD: 11.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[20:14] <shadaloo> no
[20:14] <divadgnol67> sorry that was for shadaloo
[20:14] <shadaloo> because apt-get does it automatically...
[20:14] <LULLING_HARD> Starminn: already there, no answers
[20:14] <Starminn> LULLING_HARD: Ah.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: natty is offtopic here
[20:15] <zertyui> ok fine
[20:15] <zertyui> working
[20:15] <zertyui> about postfix
[20:15] <Polah> gechmog: If your server is on a LAN you can connect using the internal IP (usually 192.168.X.X). You can find this by doing ifconfig from the server itself or there may be a page on your router. If you're connecting to a server you are paying hosting for, you should have been given an IP, username and password to use if it supports SSH. The user is the user you want to log in as on the remote machine, not your local user account on the computer you're on.
[20:15] <zertyui> thansk
[20:15] <FloodBot2> zertyui: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <zertyui> thanks
[20:15] <shadaloo> The following packages will be REMOVED: linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic*
[20:15] <shadaloo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:15] <shadaloo> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[20:15] <shadaloo> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:15] <shadaloo> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:15] <FloodBot2> shadaloo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Where in /etc/default/grub do I place "noacpi"?
[20:15] <shadaloo> how do I remove this ghost kernel?
[20:15] <shadaloo> honestly wtf
[20:15] <ceo> hai am have remove wine an have install it back, but whare the wine ? am need put on application menu bar how i do ?
[20:16] <ceo> hai am have remove wine an have install it back, but whare the wine ? am need put on application menu bar how i do ?
[20:16] <Starminn> shadaloo: Stop using Enter as punctuation. For pasting things, use pastebin or paste.ubuntu.com
[20:16] <guntbert> !language | shadaloo
[20:16] <Polah> ceo: sudo apt-get install wine to install it.
[20:16] <shadaloo> ok great pastebin
[20:16] <shadaloo> moving on
[20:16] <shadaloo> why is ubunting failing so hard right now?
[20:16] <shadaloo> just an apt-get update
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: in the quotes with quiet splash. A quick websearch would have shown that
[20:17] <zerothis>  I need help to know which Canonical support option to buy <http://pastebin.com/cLb71EWH>
[20:17] <shadaloo> surely someone knows how to remove a ghosted kernel?
[20:17] <ceo> Polah, am have do it, but am need install some exe application on my ubuntu, whare my wine
[20:17] <ceo> am not found my wine on my menu Polah
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | shadaloo
[20:17] <zerothis>  shadaloo: i used unbuntu tweak
[20:17] <LULLING_HARD> !language | shadaloo
[20:17] <guntbert> shadaloo: say what you have to say *in one line* - don't press <enter> so often
[20:18] <gechmog> Polah, thank you.  What I am trying to do is have a safe access point to the web when I use public wifi.  So, I was wondering, how do I find my external ip to do this? I am using the proper user id when logging into the remote machine.
[20:18] <Polah> ceo: If you set the program as executable (chmod +x on it), then it should be listed to open automatically with "Wine Windows Program Loader".
[20:18] <shadaloo> guntbert: sure if you like IRCing like a nub
[20:18] <Polah> Gechmog: Googling "my ip" and going on the first link should do it.
[20:19] <gechmog> Hmmm, I've tried that and it didn't work. :(
[20:19] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Yes, but what I'm asking is would it look something like, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noacpi" or do I need a boolean or comma or something?
[20:19] <guntbert> shadaloo: if you want any help - behave friendly and considerate
[20:19] <ceo> Polah, yes you right thanks, but am need to know why my wine not on menu bar, or how i do or run application fi wine not on list menu
[20:19] <ceo> app > wine < am not found it but am have install it Polah
[20:19] <shadaloo> guntbert: I never want your help, ever
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: use a space to separate
[20:20] <oCean> shadaloo: yeah, that attitude will get you your help :(
[20:20] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: So that would be correct?
[20:20] <shadaloo> ActionParsnip: same error Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic
[20:20] <Polah> ceo: Do "wine" in a terminal with no arguments, it should give you a list of options or tell you to use --help.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: yes
[20:20] <shadaloo> oCean: go back to afk u are not providing any value
[20:20] <thiebaude> !attitude
[20:21] <gechmog> Polah, Is this the correct way to do it? " user@server-11.111.111.111 "
[20:21] <shadaloo> thiebaude: I've been helping people here before you knew what ubuntu was
[20:21] <regeya> o_O
[20:21] <kso> Found the answer I was looking for:  "export TERM=linux"
[20:21] <gechmog> Polah, or do I minus out the hyphen?
[20:21] <fisch246> am i allowed to ask tech support questions, regarding my laptop and not Ubuntu here?
[20:21] <thiebaude> i doubt that shadaloo,lol
[20:21] <guntbert> fisch246: please no, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[20:21] <Polah> gechmog: That isn't the IP of it. Or shouldn't be... Is the server on your home network?
[20:22] <thiebaude> atitude wont get you anywhere here in this community
[20:22] <IdleOne> fisch246: general linux question can be asked in ##linux
[20:22] <thiebaude> and it might get you a kick out
[20:22] <thiebaude> just saying,lol
[20:22] <gechmog> Polah, that was just something I made up, I was wondering if the format of the command was correct, like do I go: "ssh user@server-ip?
[20:22] <ayecee> thiebaude: looks like he's gone.
[20:22] <thiebaude> cool
[20:23] <regeya> 'twas kicked
[20:23] <fisch246> well i'm not asking something about linux, but about my wireless card not working anymore... as of just a few minutes ago... i went into windows and it didn't work there either...
[20:23] <regeya> good riddance me thinks
[20:23] <regeya> methinks even
[20:23] <regeya> o_O
[20:24] <guntbert> fisch246: not here
[20:24] <Polah> gechmog: You'd do "user@IP". i.e. I have a VPS at the hostname "minecraft.wdgaming.net" so I do "ssh user1@minecraft.wdgaming.net", although you probably haven't set a hostname so you should do something like "user1@208.171.686.442". Of course, if it's on your network look at your router page for the internal IP and use that instead.
[20:24] <IdleOne> fisch246: maybe ##hardware
[20:25] <needhelp1> whats the command to show the full path in nautilis.. alt something
[20:25] <IdleOne> ctrl-l
[20:25] <needhelp1> IdleOne, thanks, i wish they would add this back. Pain in my ..
[20:26] <IdleOne> needhelp1: agreed
[20:27] <abahkaiyisah> how to resize ubuntu 10.10 partition over shell . i had used `parted` but cannot resized due of feature
[20:27] <needhelp1> to access a shared folder on another pc in my local network via the defualt samba.. its what  network://ip.adress/sharedfolder ?
[20:28] <Polah> abbakaiyisah: The partition you are attempting to resize can't be mounted at the time.
[20:28] <zeroXten> any ideas on how to get X to output on a second monitor (vga on webbook).. xorg.conf has to be edited due to device weirdness so autodetect doesn't work
[20:28] <zeroXten> in fact, not a second monitor as such, but switch X output to the VGA. Currently other ttys are mirrored on both screens
[20:28] <needhelp1> nvm i got it, its smb://ip/sharedfolder
[20:29] <abahkaiyisah> Polah: ok, i'll to reboot first
[20:29] <Polah> abahkaiyisah: I suggest doing it from a LiveCD/USB
[20:30] <abahkaiyisah> Polah: yes, i use it. Lubuntu LiveCD
[20:31] <fbu90> hi
[20:31] <planttt> hi!
[20:31] <fbu90> my browser slow load page on ubuntu 10.10 in wifi connect wpa2
[20:32] <nouby> i have a problem in the software center
[20:32] <nouby> there's no (install) button in the program bar
[20:33] <Polah> nouby: We are all psychic and thus now know what your problem is...
[20:34] <nouby> anyhelp?
[20:34] <Grav> Is opera broken on ubuntu? Pages are always displayed wrong for me in it
[20:34] <Polah> Nouby: There we are. Do you mean the title bar for each piece of software? You can download all the software available in the software centre through apt-get in the terminal. On the page for whatever software you want, next to version there'll be a name in brackets, i.e. Tux Paint has "tuxpaint" for the package name. Just do "sudo apt-get install <package name>" in terminal and confirm it to download that package.
[20:35] <thevishy> i would like to know if my netbook has identified my intel graphics processor
[20:35] <thevishy> how do I do that ?
[20:35] <nouby> id doesn't work
[20:35] <Polah> nouby: What do you mean it doesn't work? Doing sudo apt-get install for the packages you want?
[20:35] <Pici> thevishy: lscpu or cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:36] <Hinton> Any idea why ubuntu 10.04.1 hostname -f returns "Temporary failure in name resolution", hostname -i works fine
[20:37] <Polah> Pici: That would only give him CPU, not GPU?
[20:37] <Pici> Polah: I must have misread the question
[20:38] <thevishy> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu.com/587955/
[20:38] <atm235> hi ppl! can somebody help me? is there any way to identify (in the console) a command of process from is PID?
[20:38] <SwedeMike> ps auxw | grep <PID>
[20:38] <guntbert> Hinton: does hostname --all-fqdns  do what you want?
[20:38] <thevishy> i dont see anything in lscpu , but lsmod grep for intel does show intel agp ( I dont know if its the inbuilt intel graphics though)
[20:38] <Polah> atm235: The name of the process?
[20:38] <rodrigob> #bzr
[20:38] <atm235> yes
[20:38] <SwedeMike> atm235: ps auxw | grep <PID>
[20:39] <atm235> thanks
[20:39] <Hinton> quntbert: yes, however i got issues installing a application that says my hostname is invalid when its valid
[20:39] <llutz> atm235: ps -p <PID>
[20:40] <thevishy> I need to know if the intel graphics driver is being utilized basically
[20:40] <Pici> thevishy: sorry, use sudo lshw -C Display
[20:40] <thevishy> graphics card ( inbuilt ) 950
[20:40] <yofel> thevishy: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what driver X is using
[20:40] <An_Ony_Moose> how do I install the closed-source sun JRE from a repository?
[20:41] <An_Ony_Moose> or rather, which repository do I get it from?
[20:41] <yofel> An_Ony_Moose: it's in the partner repository
[20:41] <Polah> An_Ony_Moose, Sun Java? canonical partners
[20:41] <guntbert> !hostname | Hinton (just for a check)
[20:41] <yofel> !partner > An_Ony_Moose
[20:42] <An_Ony_Moose> yofel, Polah: thanks
[20:42] <Hinton> ubottu, Done that, both methods
[20:42] <Hinton> guntbert: "hostname -f
[20:42] <Hinton> hostname: Temporary failure in name resolution
[20:42] <Hinton> "
[20:42] <thevishy> Pici, sudo lshw -C Display shows PCI(sysfs)
[20:43] <thevishy> yofel, tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log is showing http://paste.ubuntu.com/587956/
[20:43] <thevishy> I want to know if Intel 950 Graphics card is being used
[20:43] <yofel> usually you don't use tail there, but it's using the intel driver
[20:44] <guntbert> Hinton: according to   man hostname    hostname -f should be avoided, thats why I asked for the other command
[20:45] <thevishy> right , so its the intel inbuilt graphics card itself or just the intel CPU curious
[20:45] <Hinton> ok, thanks for the help, guntbert, any idea why hostname -f is acting wierd?
[20:45] <yofel> thevishy: Xorg.0.log shows only graphics/input devices related things
[20:45] <thevishy> thanks
[20:47] <oCean> Hinton: what is in /etc/host.conf?
[20:47] <guntbert> Hinton: not really - please read about "THE FQDN"  in  man hostname, maybe it helps
[20:47] <rednose> Hello. On what day in April does Ubuntu 8.04 desktop stop getting updates?
[20:48] <thevishy> rednose, why is it that you have not used the new one ?
[20:48] <DJones> rednose: I think its 28th/29th april
[20:48] <Pici> rednose: I'd suppose April 29th, as that is when support for 9.10 ends.
[20:49] <Hinton> oCean, 127.0.0.1 and my ip pointing to hostname
[20:49] <oCean> Hinton: no, /etc/host.conf
[20:49] <oCean> Hinton: oh wait, *that* is in /etc/host.conf?
[20:50] <rednose> Thanks. I need to a full backup and switch to Debian before the 29. ( The enjoys of being a admin)
[20:50] <ce3c> hey guys, I'd like to disable my touchpad when I plug in my usb mouse. I got a script to do that (from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1629433), but the backlight of the touchpad remains on... any ideas?
[20:50] <Hinton> yea, cant access the direct file, did a reboot
[20:50]  * ce3c wonders if he should get a life
[20:50] <oCean> Hinton: your ips should be in /etc/hosts. The /etc/host.conf should specify the search order (files, bind)
[20:50] <oCean> err host, bind
[20:51] <pawelkantor> lol
[20:52] <16SAAEJK3> The colors on my display changed to their complement (e.g. white->black, blue->red, ...).  How do I get them back to normal?
[20:53] <ce3c> noone an idea about the backlight? :p
[20:53] <llutz> 16SAAEJK3: ctrl N
[20:53] <guntbert> !please | ce3c
[20:53] <ce3c> !care
[20:53] <16SAAEJK3> llutz: Didn't work.  Should the cursor be somewhere special?
[20:53] <ce3c> ;D
[20:54] <Ov3R> hi all
[20:55] <alcuadrado> Hi there! I have a ubuntu server 10.10 installation and /boot has no more space, so I need to remove some old kernels. How should I do this?
[20:56] <guntbert> Ov3R:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:56] <yasmin_> tar xvzf buduscript_3351_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[20:56] <guntbert> alcuadrado: use aptitude to remove them
[20:57] <pull_two> i have formatted a partition that contains old ubuntu installation. Any idea on how can i delete its entry during boot menu?
[20:57] <alcuadrado> but how are they named? that's my problem :$
[20:57] <genii-around> pull_two: sudo update-grub
[20:57] <maria> Is there a way to lock down a specific program with a password?
[20:58] <alcuadrado> guntbert, sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.24-28-generic ?
[20:59] <Ov3R> gunndawg, no, just passing by here
[20:59] <Thraspic> Anyone know where in my theme's gtkrc I can modify the background color of my main menu?
[21:00] <guntbert> alcuadrado: I don't remember the version numbers, but you will want to remove several packages named linux-image....   and then linux-headers...... too
[21:00] <alcuadrado> that was my concern, the headers :) thanks
[21:00] <runawayhacker> hey
[21:01] <guntbert> alcuadrado: but they are not stored beneath /boot, only the images
[21:01] <alcuadrado> oh, so images would be enough
[21:01] <runawayhacker> I've been hitting google for an answer, but nothing turns up. Having issues with ubiquity crashing on an HP mini 1000
[21:02] <guntbert> alcuadrado: yes, but keep one older kernel, just "in case"
[21:02] <icepick37> Which has saved my butt at least once
[21:02] <alcuadrado> yes, I do that, in fact, I was keeping all of them haha
[21:02] <Dean> hey! i need some help!
[21:03] <AndChat_> sudo update-grub точнее...
[21:03] <Guest1417> can anyone help me to set up a virtual machine on my Windows Vista so i can run Ubuntu alongside vista?
[21:04] <Polah> Guest1417: You can just install it on another partition or use Wubi to install it within Windows. No need for a VM.
[21:06] <arand> Guest1417: For getting the vm software up, try ##windows, if you have specific issues related to ubuntu (i.e. from the point of booting the iso and onwards, ask here ;)
[21:07] <Guest1417> ok
[21:07] <Guest1417> ty polah
[21:07] <nouby> polah:when i write sudo apt-get wine for example the bash tells me it is a wrong command
[21:07] <bin_bash> Hello all
[21:07] <policyq> so how long till Ubuntu runs entirely on Wayland. gimme a ETA
[21:07] <icepick37> you need to say sudo apt-get INSTALL wine
[21:07] <xangua> nouby: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:07] <icepick37> if you're trying to install
[21:07] <bin_bash> I have overloaded my harddrive from a failed backup attempt. I can't load gnome. What should I do? I'm running ubuntu 10.04
[21:07] <xangua> policyq: when it's ready
[21:07] <bin_bash> pp7: i broke it :(
[21:08] <icepick37> boot a lice cd, clean stuff off
[21:08] <icepick37> live*
[21:08] <Guest1417> Polah, how do i get Wubi?
[21:08] <policyq> xangua: which? wayland or ubuntu?
[21:08] <nouby> polah: i did the right command and have the same answer
[21:08] <alcuadrado> guntbert, I've done that, then reboot, and the server doesn't work anymore :s
[21:08] <zarus> What would I use to encrypt an individual txt file?
[21:08] <runawayhacker> exit
[21:08] <runawayhacker> exit
[21:09] <maria62> Is there a way that I can lock Thunderbird and other programs so that no one else using my computer can access it?
[21:09] <policyq> xangua: in other words, which technology is holding up the other at the  moment. is wayland advanced enough already but toolkits haven't been ported yet, or is wayland not all the way complete. do you know
[21:09] <guntbert> alcuadrado: lets move over to #ubuntu-server please
[21:09] <alcuadrado> oh, I didn't know about that channel, sorry
[21:09] <verin_> м
[21:10] <xangua> maria62: lock screen
[21:10] <Polah> nouby: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[21:10] <xangua> policyq: i do not know
[21:10] <bin_bash> Can anyone help me figure out how to get back into gnome even though apparently my HDD is full because the backup messed up?
[21:10] <Polah> Guest1417: Wubi comes on the .iso you can get to make a LiveCD/USB
[21:10] <maria62> xangua, other people need to use the computer
[21:11] <bin_bash> maria62: make user accounts
[21:11] <xangua> maria62: then create new users for them
[21:11] <maria62> bin_bash, xangua, There is no other way?
[21:11] <verin_> кто нибудь понимает русский?
[21:11] <bin_bash> maria62: that's the best way
[21:11] <xangua> !ru | verin_
[21:11] <maria62> bin_bash, thank you
[21:11] <bin_bash> Has nobody had this problem with running out of disc space?
[21:12] <meganerdca> bin_bash: can you not free some space, then "sudo start gdm"
[21:13] <bin_bash> meganerdca: I have no idea where this stupuid backupper put the files
[21:13] <meganerdca> bin_bash: or rather "sudo restart gdm"
[21:13] <bin_bash> meganerdca: Right now I'm in the process of copying my home directory to my external using cp -r
[21:13] <verin_> спасибо
[21:14] <meganerdca> bin_bash: what was the name of the backup program?
[21:14] <bin_bash> lemme double check on that
[21:14] <bin_bash> I THINK it was sbackup
[21:15] <bin_bash> meganerdca: Yep sbackup
[21:15] <meganerdca> I have never used it.  I don't know where it stores it's backups, but we could get an idea from "sudo du -Pacmx --max-depth=1 / |sort -g"
[21:15] <meganerdca> bin_bash: If you have a large drive that command will take a while
[21:16] <bin_bash> meganerdca:  yeah I know
[21:16] <meganerdca> bin_bash: do you have any movies or largish files that you can do without?
[21:16] <bin_bash> meganerdca: nope
[21:17] <meganerdca> bin_bash: if you free up 100MB you should be able to login (you could get away with less)
[21:17] <bin_bash> meganerdca: I'm getting a lot of invalid arguments with this cp command
[21:17] <bin_bash> is that normal?
[21:18] <azm> how can Im make default list view in nautilis please?
[21:18] <meganerdca> bin_bash: I almost never use it.  Chances are there are filenames with bad characters.  how exactly did you invoke cp?
[21:18] <azm> when they finally add this option
[21:18] <bin_bash> meganerdca: cp -r /home/* /media/sdb2
[21:18] <meganerdca> azm: edit -> preferences
[21:18] <azm> how is called the gnome config thing?
[21:19] <natschil> Hello. I have this really annoying problem which is starting to piss me off (a lot). Basically, whenver I try to share the internet connection from a 3g wireless network over either wireless of lan, it drops a bunch of packets making it unusable.
[21:19] <meganerdca> azm: then click list view under "View New Folders Using"
[21:19] <azm> meganerdca, THANK YOU !
[21:19] <azm> <3
[21:20] <meganerdca> bin_bash: probably spaces in the file names
[21:20] <bin_bash> meganerdca: That's what I've determined. Is there a better way to do this? I can cancel it, reformat it, and then do something else
[21:20] <meganerdca> azm: np, I hate icon views which seems to be the default on every freaking OS :)
[21:20] <azm> yea, same.
[21:20] <naomi_> When I logged in just now it said the gnome clock applet has failed? And now there's no time on my panel. How do I fix? D:
[21:21] <rodrigo> Hi
[21:21] <meganerdca> bin_bash: personally I use "rsync -va --progress /source /destination"
[21:21] <xangua> !panels | naomi_
[21:21] <naomi_> Thankya'. :)
[21:21] <bin_bash> what does --progress do
[21:21] <bin_bash> meganerdca: should I cancek
[21:22] <meganerdca> bin_bash: I would
[21:22] <natschil> does anyone have any suggestions as to how Icould fix this problem?
[21:22] <bin_bash> meganerdca: how do i format the external from the cli?
[21:22] <bin_bash> it's mounted at /media/sdb2
[21:22] <meganerdca> bin_bash: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
[21:22] <rodrigo> I downloaded a .run archive, and I want to install it. what i do
[21:22] <bin_bash> why ext3
[21:22] <bin_bash> don'
[21:23] <meganerdca> bin_bash: assuming that /dev/sdb1 is the partition for the external drive, and assuming that it is only used in linux
[21:23] <bin_bash> meganerdca: don't i want to do it as FAT
[21:23] <xangua> rodrigo: right clic>preferences>give it permissions......and double clic on it
[21:23] <meganerdca> bin_bash: it *WILL* erase all files on
[21:23] <genii-around> meganerdca: Wouldn't that be sdb2 if it's mounted at /mnt/sdb2 ?
[21:23] <rodrigo> oh yeah
[21:23] <bin_bash> meganerdca: the external is partitioned
[21:23] <rodrigo> thanks xangua
[21:23] <xangua> right clic>properties*
[21:23] <meganerdca> bin_bash: yup, if it is already partitioned then you could use existing partitions
[21:24] <naomi_> Does amsn have a bug or something? The last few times I've used it it's fozen on me and a bug error report came up?
[21:24] <bin_bash> meganerdca: the existing partition is /dev/sdb2
[21:24] <bin_bash> I REALLY can't afford to accidentallty my home folder
[21:24] <maco> naomi_: all software has bugs
[21:24] <tehnef> bin_bash: what are you trying to do?
[21:24] <natschil> hello. doing "create wireless network" keeps dropping packets? does anyone know why it does that?
[21:24] <peeniss> hi
[21:24] <meganerdca> bin_bash: FAT has some limitations, like path length and file size.  If you have files larger than 2 GB then FAT will not work for you (I use a lot of VMs and I do multi-track music mixing as a hobby, so I routinely get large files)
[21:24] <bin_bash> tehnef: reformat my external partition sdb2
[21:24] <naomi_> maco: Yeah but like.. is it messed up now? Should I uninstall or something?
[21:24] <tehnef> bin_bash: and what is it that you're worried about?
[21:25] <bin_bash> tehnef: accidentally my home folder
[21:25] <peeniss> where can download ubuntu i ??
[21:25] <bin_bash> meganerdca: is ext3 a good idea?
[21:25] <tehnef> bin_bash: is your home folder on that drive?
[21:25] <peeniss> bin_bash yes its very good
[21:25] <bin_bash> tehnef: no but i'm in the cli and i'm really unfamiliar with it
[21:25] <tehnef> bin_bash: also, what will you be keeping on that partition?
[21:25] <peeniss> where can download ubuntu ??
[21:25] <bin_bash> tehnef: my entire home folder
[21:25] <tehnef> bin_bash: and there's nothing on sdb2 at the moment?
[21:25] <meganerdca> bin_bash: ext3 is a good idea for hard drives, ext2 I use for flash drives
[21:26] <peeniss> where can download ubuntu ??
[21:26] <bin_bash> tehnef: there is. i had used cp -r to copy my home folder but it wasn't allowing certain file names
[21:26] <maco> peeniss: ubuntu.com has a download link.
[21:26] <patryk> siemacie
[21:26] <tehnef> bin_bash: try cp -af
[21:26] <bin_bash> tehnef: what does that do
[21:27] <maco> naomi_: if its freezing a lot, then yeah it could be buggy. do you need a particular feature from it that empathy lacks?
[21:27] <Hodr> anyone else unable to do "aptitude update"?
[21:27] <meganerdca> bin_bash: preserves permissions nad ownership
[21:27] <bastidrazor> peeniss: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[21:27] <Hodr> My update is hanging at "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com]"
[21:27] <bin_bash> meganerdca: is it in my best itnerest to reformat this partition and then use rsync?
[21:27] <tehnef> bin_bash: cp -af is an archive copy that will force copy
[21:28] <vaaginaa> pok
[21:28] <tehnef> bin_bash: what are you backing up to? it's possible the filesystem doesn't like certain things
[21:28] <tehnef> bin_bash: cp -af also preserves permissions, which can be very important
[21:28] <bin_bash> tehnef: it;'s an external hdd FAT with a 250gig partition
[21:28] <meganerdca> bin_bash: it depends, I like rsync, I like ext file systems, YMMV
[21:28] <meganerdca> bin_bash: you can use rsync with FAT if you want
[21:29] <bin_bash> I don't know if i have anything over 2gigs
[21:29] <bastidrazor> vaaginaa: your german humor /fails
[21:29] <bin_bash> and a lot of my stuff has weird characters and spaces
[21:29] <tehnef> bin_bash: yeah that's the problem. you'll need to tar it in order to preserve permissions
[21:29] <bin_bash> i think that's why cp -r was having a problem
[21:29] <vaaginaa> whaat
[21:29] <daniel__> how would i install tibia871.tgz someone showed me a way to do it via the terminal but i forgot since then
[21:29] <bin_bash> tehnef: how do i do that
[21:30] <bin_bash> i'm really new to the cli
[21:30] <meganerdca> bin_bash: you did cp -r /path/*, the file system did not escape all the characters
[21:30] <bin_bash> meganerdca: what does that mean
[21:30] <meganerdca> bin_bash: if you had done cp -a or cp -r /source/path /destination/path you would have likely been ok
[21:30] <pyghassen2> bastidrazor: vaaginaa do german have sense of humor at all ?!!!
[21:30] <Ov3R> cp -r -v /path/*
[21:30] <meganerdca> bin_bash:  just ignore me
[21:31] <bin_bash> meganerdca: i did cp -r /home/myname /media/sdb2
[21:31] <tehnef> bin_bash: tar cf /path/to/destination/backup.tar /path/we/want/to/backup
[21:31] <meganerdca> bin_bash: I use the CLI too much :)
[21:31] <daniel__> how would i install tibia871.tgz someone showed me a way to do it via the terminal but i forgot since then
[21:31] <tehnef> meganerdca: everyone should learn to
[21:31] <bin_bash> tehnef: may I PM you? this webchat is frustrating
[21:32] <tehnef> bin_bash: /query tehnef
[21:32] <meganerdca> tehnef: I don't know about that.  I tend to want to let people use tools that work in a fashion that they are comfortable with
[21:32] <xangua> !compile | daniel__
[21:32] <Ayush_> How can I install ubuntu from a bootable USB drive?
[21:32] <pyghassen2> hey guys what if someday someone type ifconfig and you only found "lo" no eth at all!!!
[21:32] <meganerdca> tehnef: it is almost like saying every windows user needs to know how to use regedit
[21:32] <xangua> Ayush_: the same way you install it from cd
[21:32] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: try "ip addr" instead
[21:32] <varsha_jk> hi, I installed kubuntu-desktop. I was fine, but lately it's been giving me a mixer of GNOME and KDE.
[21:32] <varsha_jk> It was fine*
[21:33] <cipher_> what
[21:33] <Ayush_> xangua, so I use the same iso to create a bootable usb drive?
[21:33] <Hodr> pyghassen2 - are eth0 and eth1 setup up in the interfaces file?
[21:33] <varsha_jk> any help on this, please?
[21:33] <meganerdca> Hodr: they would not be if they were managed by network manager
[21:33] <daniel__> xangua, exactly what i was looking for thank you
[21:33] <cipher_> varsha_jk, Screenshot?
[21:33] <meganerdca> Hodr: which they would be by default
[21:33] <IdleOne> !purekde | varsha_jk
[21:33] <tehnef> meganerdca: look, i know this won't be a popular opinion...but even Ubuntu is just not there when it comes to being a generally user-proof OS. as an alternative to windows, maybe. but you're going to need to be able to troubleshoot, because Ubuntu randomly breaks shit.
[21:33] <xangua> Ayush_: no, you use some progam like ubuntu usb creator, unetbootin or follow the instructions at ubuntu.com
[21:33] <pyghassen2> what happen was the eth0 working fine and suddenly there no trace for it!
[21:33] <Hodr> meganerdca network manager is nothing but trouble.. lol
[21:34] <bin_bash> tehnef: I PMed you
[21:34] <bin_bash> meganerdca: I PMed you as well
[21:34] <varsha_jk> IdleOne: I am on GNOME right now. I am uninstalling kubuntu-desktop, and will try reinstalling it.
[21:34] <meganerdca> tehnef: every OS is like that
[21:34] <meganerdca> bin_bash: lets try to keep it here unless there is a really good reason to take it out of band?
[21:34] <bl4ckcomb`> varsha_jk, you don't need gnome to reinstall kde
[21:34] <tehnef> meganerdca: there are degrees, and linux is just not on par with even windows
[21:35] <daniel__> varsha_jk, kde is not better then gnome i tried swicthing and hated it
[21:35] <xeboM> you are comparing apples to oranges, tehnef...
[21:35] <bin_bash> meganerdca: I can't install xchat on this public computer, and I'm having a ahrd tiem keeping up with the channel
[21:35] <IdleOne> !ot | tehnef meganerdca
[21:35] <meganerdca> tehnef: I would disagree with that, but it really just is an opinion.  You should see the messed up Windows I machines I see every week :)
[21:35] <tehnef> meganerdca: oh i know, windows isn't much better.
[21:35] <tehnef> anyway, yeah !ot
[21:36] <daniel__> meganerdca, and half the times ubuntu messes up its the users fault
[21:36] <meganerdca> bin_bash: OK, that sounds sort of like a good reason :)
[21:36] <bl4ckcomb`> daniel__, I agree, kde is rather bloat and needs much more tweaking before it's stable enough
[21:36] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: I got something from the  ip addr command
[21:37] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: of course you did :)
[21:37] <daniel__> bl4ckcomb, gnome is very basic and it can become very confusing if u want it to be u choose ur level i feel like
[21:37] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: if an interface is marked as down, it might not show in ifconfig, ip addr will show state so all current interfaces should be there
[21:37] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: there is eth3
[21:37] <varsha_jk> IdleOne: the splash screen shows Kubuntu instaead of Ubuntu! How's that?
[21:38] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: plus, someday ifconfig is going away, ip addr was supposed to replace it years ago
[21:38] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: OK, does it have an IP?
[21:38] <IdleOne> varsha_jk: it is a side effect of installing both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[21:38] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: sp should I just ifconfig eth3 up, and everything will be ok?
[21:38] <varsha_jk> IdleOne: what do i install then? kde-base?
[21:39] <IdleOne> varsha_jk: the menus will have a mix of both gnome and kde apps. decide which you want to keep and see either !puregnome or !purekde
[21:39] <CyberJacob> do the team meeting logs go to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/31/
[21:39] <pyghassen2> wow it worked :)
[21:39] <KramB> My Sound is not working, how can I resolved this?
[21:39] <IdleOne> CyberJacob: yes, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[21:40] <varsha_jk> IdleOne: I'll remove kubuntu-desktop and install kde full. I think that made a difference, because last time I had kde full and it did not give me any of this.
[21:40] <IdleOne> varsha_jk: ok
[21:40] <cipher_> nit durgapur
[21:40] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: "sudo ip link set eth3 up"
[21:41] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: if you have DHCP, then you will also need to do "sudo dhclient eth3"
[21:41] <CyberJacob> I can't seem to find the #ubuntu-uk-meeting ones there
[21:42] <popey> CyberJacob: if you say !logs in the channel a bot usually tells you where they are
[21:42] <Polah> Is there a way to re-verify all my sources with the keyserver?
[21:42] <CyberJacob> !logs
[21:42] <IdleOne> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ CyberJacob
[21:43] <icepick37> KramB: What have you tried to fix it?
[21:43] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: thanks :)
[21:43] <CyberJacob> does the !logs just go to me or to everybody?
[21:43] <popey> CyberJacob: no, in the channel that you want the logs for
[21:43] <popey> CyberJacob: i.e. not here
[21:43] <KramB> icepick37: Nvm, it's my headphones.
[21:43] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: np, networking is something I do for fun... yes I have a problem
[21:43] <popey> CyberJacob: i.e. /join #ubuntu-uk-meeting
[21:43] <icepick37> CyberJacob: everyone
[21:43] <CyberJacob> I meant does everybody else see the response, or just me
[21:43] <icepick37> KramB: Ah.  Been there. :)
[21:44] <icepick37> Yeah
[21:44] <icepick37>  I saw it here anyway
[21:44] <CyberJacob> :(
[21:44] <icepick37> lol
[21:44] <IdleOne> CyberJacob: you can /msg ubottu !logs
[21:45] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: I envy you I always wanna know about networking, but unfortunately I only know few
[21:45] <rypervenche> Is it possible to do sudo apt-get purge --reinstall programname?
[21:45] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: it is not that hard, I was just lucky to have a lot of free time before I met my wife :)
[21:45] <Kimmen> rypervenche: sudo apt-get purge program && sudo apt-get install program
[21:46] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: lartc.org is a great place to go if you have lots of time
[21:47] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: looooooooool your woman is consuming all your free time now, well that's what i tryna do myself, (avoiding marriage) :P
[21:47]  * maco rolls her eyes
[21:48] <rypervenche> Kimmen: Well, the problem is I want to remove locales, but it will remove a lot of dependancies.
[21:48] <myrmidette> is it possible to switch off ethernet without root rights?
[21:48] <maco> rypervenche: have you seen localepurge?
[21:48] <Ryd3r> Hey guys, have a quick question for you: does anybody know of any good tutorials to rullt utilise Ubuntu, instead of having it to mess about on?
[21:48] <maco> myrmidette: unplug the wire?
[21:48] <zvacet> rypervenche : sudo apt-get --purge remove and after that sudo apt-get install
[21:48] <myrmidette> it's unplugged
[21:48] <fisch246> can someone point me to a forum or post on how to change the login screen sound? (login screen not gnome login sound) i'm trying to find one that isn't out dated
[21:49] <rypervenche> maco: Yes, but my problem is somewhat delicate.
[21:49] <maco> myrmidette: the admin could of course allocate sudo permissions that are limited to the ifconfig command by customising /etc/sudoers
[21:49] <fisch246> nvm XD found a way to do it myself XD
[21:49] <maco> myrmidette: then someone who can't sudo for anything else could sudo for just that
[21:50] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: what is it?
[21:50] <myrmidette> maco, I have 2 interfaces up - eth0 and wlan0. wlan0 is connected and has internet, but eth0 is not. eth0 takes precedence over wlan0 and the computer cannot send or receive data
[21:50] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: lucky for me she is a nurse who works shift work, I still get lots of time to myself
[21:50] <myrmidette> maco, I don't have sudo
[21:50] <zvacet> rypervenche :did you tried sudo apt-get install localepurge
[21:50] <rypervenche> How can I fix this? My locale is all messed up. http://pastebin.com/4B4kFPMy
[21:50] <maco> myrmidette: get the person who has sudo to give you sudo access to just that?
[21:50] <meganerdca> pyghassen2: lartc.org is the Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control web site.  Hella fun if you ask me
[21:50] <rabbitfang> can any one help me with the issue of the screen turning off (power save mode; nothing getting sent to the screen) when using a ubuntu 10.10 live dvd? have a nvidia graphics card
[21:50] <maco> myrmidette: or reboot with the cable unplugged?
[21:51] <myrmidette> ok
[21:51] <pyghassen2> meganerdca: good advice so i'll just marry a nurse myself ;)
[21:51] <myrmidette> maco, there is no cable
[21:51] <daniel__> is there a site that will tell me what they are going to be changeing in future updates?
[21:51] <fisch246> nvm i didn't find it :/ question restated...
[21:51] <myrmidette> but it's still configured
[21:51] <maco> myrmidette: was there a cable *before* though? like, when it started up?
[21:52] <maco> myrmidette: really though, network manager should've noticed it being unplugged either way.... unless you're not using network manager
[21:52] <gyger> i have installed the firefox launchpad plugin, but i see no change in ff, can someone point me in the right direction to what the package adds?
[21:52] <myrmidette> I am
[21:53] <myrmidette> oh wait, there is a cable, but it's not connected to anything
[21:53] <myrmidette> btw I'm using 10.10
[21:53] <odst0016> hey
[21:53] <odst0016> how good is ubuntu studio
[21:53] <myrmidette> pretty damn good
[21:53] <odst0016> in terms of graphic design or is there a better distro for that
[21:53] <rypervenche> How can I fix this? My locale is all messed up. http://pastebin.com/4B4kFPMy
[21:54] <myrmidette> odst0016, afaik ubuntu studio is ubuntu+a few extra packages that can be easily installed from ubuntu desktop
[21:54] <rabbitfang> can anyone help me with a black screen shortly after starting up the ubuntu 10.10 live dvd
[21:54] <meLon> In windows, I can hold alt when I press PRT SCR to only copy the window with focus.  Is there a way to do something similar in Ubuntu/Gnome?
[21:54] <myrmidette> yes
[21:55] <zvacet> odst0016: graphic design is about software not distro I think
[21:55] <myrmidette> meLon, use scrot
[21:55] <zvacet> odst0016: in linux world
[21:55] <Dr3DD> bonsoir
[21:55] <rypervenche> meLon: It works the same way, however in Ubuntu 10.10 the ctrl + screenshot key combination is broken. You can set it to something else until Natty comes out.
[21:56] <maco> myrmidette: i think cable detection happens at the computer's port, not at the other end of the cable
[21:56] <meLon> Thanks myrmidette rypervenche
[21:56] <myrmidette> but the cable is not connected to a modem or router, there's no circuit
[21:56] <myrmidette> how can it detect anything?
[21:56] <rabbitfang> can anyone help?: black screen when using ubuntu 10.10 live dvd
[21:57] <meganerdca> myrmidette: bad driver
[21:57] <myrmidette> meganerdca, good driver
[21:57] <Guest33085> MG.mcr
[21:57] <myrmidette> it works, you just have to switch off eth0 first
[21:57] <meganerdca> myrmidette: what do you get when you type "ip addr"
[21:57] <myrmidette> 192.168.1.131
[21:58] <myrmidette> no
[21:58] <SkrappJaw> rabbitfang: did your live cd display and then your first boot after installation show a black screen?
[21:59] <rypervenche> I started my computer this morning, and my normal locale (zh_TW) was not working. Most of my computer was in English. I have been struggling to find a solution all day, but to no avail. (I tried something with localedef, and now my computer uses 100% CPU when I use my normal locale, so I put it in English for now). Here it what my problem looks like, http://pastebin.com/4B4kFPMy
[21:59] <rabbitfang> my live cd showed a redish screen then a text entry for a few seconds then nothing. ubuntu is not installed as of yet
[22:00] <myrmidette> I get some long output, but it amounts to 1:lo 2: eth0 <no-carrier, broadcast, multicast, up> stated DOWN 3: wlan0 <broadcast, multicast, up, lower_up> state UP
[22:00] <myrmidette> I can't paste the whole output because there's no internet
[22:00] <myrmidette> on that machine
[22:01] <meganerdca> myrmidette: it is saying that there the link is down on eth0
[22:01] <rabbitfang> the same also happens with a GParted live cd
[22:01] <emma> The ubuntu ops log this channel and many others in #ubuntu*. That way they have a record that is made public for the world to see of any mistakes or poor judgment or bad choices any of you make. And you will be held accountable.
[22:01] <myrmidette> meganerdca, yes. there's no cable in the ethernet port
[22:02] <emma> However the ubuntu ops have voted to make an exclusive channel that none of us can join, and they have voted that it will *not* be logged. Because they have voted they need privacy that none of us deserve.
[22:02] <SkrappJaw> rabbitfang: sorry. have you tried using a 10.04 distro? try that. You can update to 10.10 from 10.04
[22:02] <emma> This infuriates me and as a matter of justice I wanted to let it be known despite the fact most of you probably don't care.
[22:02] <emma> thanks.
[22:02] <myrmidette> emma, no we don't
[22:02] <meganerdca> heh
[22:03] <rypervenche> emma: Nope, don't care. This is a room for helping and sharing. The results of which should be shared.
[22:03] <nopf> anyone any idea why my system-monitor in the gnome-panel always seems to crash on the same day on several machines? uptime is vastly different on those....
[22:03] <myrmidette> that's right
[22:03] <myrmidette> back to the wlan problem
[22:03] <meganerdca> myrmidette: so you can't connect via wifi?  Did I understand the problem correctly?
[22:03] <rypervenche> I started my computer this morning, and my normal locale (zh_TW) was not working. Most of my computer was in English. I have been struggling to find a solution all day, but to no avail. (I tried something with localedef, and now my computer uses 100% CPU when I use my normal locale, so I put it in English for now). Here it what my problem looks like, http://pastebin.com/4B4kFPMy . Any ideas? I can't do anything now that my locale is not set :(
[22:03] <myrmidette> it DOES connnect
[22:04] <tehnef> lolwut, somehow ops don't deserve a private unlogged channel of their own? wtf is with people and their ridiculous expectations?
[22:04] <rabbitfang> skrappjaw: ... no i have not... but i would like to avoid such an option if possible because of the large size of the iso file and the horrible speed of my internet
[22:04] <Dotted> im having an issue with my logitech g500 mouse, cursor movement is extremely laggy and the buttons arent working, how can i fix it?
[22:04] <myrmidette> meganerdca,  but it seems to prefer the (nonexistent) eth0 connection to the working wifi connection
[22:04] <SkrappJaw> It's not been a very reliable thing in my experience to update that way anyway,
[22:04] <fisch246> to be more specific with my problem, i need to find a command in a file somewhere to change where it looks to play the "Login Screen Sound" which is not to be confused with "Gnome Login Sound"
[22:05] <SkrappJaw> but you could have different results depending on your internet. Is it a laptop?
[22:06] <nopf> (... they are connected via synergy. cannot think of a reason though. another ubuntu, also on the same synergy server, doesn't seem to have the problem)
[22:06] <meganerdca> myrmidette: any rougue routing entries?  "ip route" will show the routes, more than one default is bad unless you specifically set it up
[22:06] <myrmidette> there are 2 defaults
[22:06] <rabbitfang> skrappjaw: no. a desktop. do you mean not a reliable thing going from 10.04 to 10.10?
[22:07] <meganerdca> myrmidette: are they on the same subnet, with different devices?
[22:07] <myrmidette> looks like it
[22:07] <meganerdca> myrmidette: well, without sudo this is going to be a problem, but normally "sudo ip route del default via dev eth0"
[22:08] <SkrappJaw> rabbitfang: ya. i ended up just installing from scratch my 10.10 and my bros laptop. Neither of us had luck with updating to 10.10 from 10.04
[22:08] <meganerdca> myrmidette: I don't suppose there is a root account enabled on this machine that you have a password for?
[22:08] <myrmidette> it sats (same for both lines) 'default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0 proto static' and 'default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 metric 100'
[22:08] <myrmidette> nope
[22:08] <gatoparlante> Meow, Good afternoon, people.
[22:09] <Dotted> im having an issue with my logitech g500 mouse, cursor movement is extremely laggy and the buttons arent working, how can i fix it?
[22:09] <rabbitfang> skrappjaw: well that is what i am trying to kind of do in the long run. i plan on having a dual boot option with windows xp. gparted live is also having the same issue right now
[22:09] <myrmidette> the admin will be available in a few hours though, so any instructions would be helpful meganerdca
[22:09] <zvacet> myrmidette : why you can not use sudo?
[22:09] <meganerdca> myrmidette: you will need need root or sudo access to remove the offending route
[22:09] <myrmidette> it's not my machine
[22:09] <meganerdca> myrmidette: "sudo ip route del default via dev eth0"
[22:09] <myrmidette> thank you very much meganerdca
[22:09] <meganerdca> myrmidette: this will leave only the route for device wlan0 in the routing table
[22:10] <meganerdca> myrmidette: your welcome
[22:10] <fisch246> i've honestly been searching on google for awhile now :/ can't find a thing on the login screen sound :/ not customizable anymore maybe?
[22:10] <zertyui> hello tehe
[22:11] <zertyui> who know postfix whith mailutils ?
[22:11] <gatoparlante> I would like to know Hope someone could help me with a little problem at defining permissions...
[22:12] <naomi_> Is there any way to be able to see custom emotes on empathy?
[22:13] <bastidrazor> zertyui: #postfix would
[22:13] <thevishy> i have closed chromium opera etc and still the fre is njot showing correct data
[22:13] <thevishy> free*
[22:13] <zertyui> no one there
[22:14] <thevishy> why is it taking so much time to cleanup the memory
[22:14] <zvacet> fisch246: do you want to change sound or what
[22:14] <chipmonk> how do i erase my system logs
[22:15] <thevishy> Linux shows 900 MB used up while i have nothig open now ...I closed many apps
[22:15] <independent> why i cant install any ircd on ubuntu
[22:16]  * independent slaps hacked_kernel around a bit with a large trout
[22:16] <fisch246> zvacet: yes i want to change the sound, however it's pointing to the wrong directory... i want to restore it to the right one...
[22:17] <rypervenche> I started my computer this morning, and my normal locale (zh_TW) was not working. Most of my computer was in English. I have been struggling to find a solution all day, but to no avail. (I tried something with localedef, and now my computer uses 100% CPU when I use my normal locale, so I put it in English for now). Here it what my problem looks like, http://pastebin.com/4B4kFPMy . Any ideas? I can't do anything now that my locale is not set :(
[22:18] <zvacet> fisch246: maybe you can try t odo it with ubuntu tweak read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1694200
[22:18] <yofel> thevishy: the used memory will vary if caches are counted or not. All free memory is  used by the kernel for disk cache usually
[22:19] <tjiggi_fo> thevishy, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[22:19] <terry> rypervenche: locate with nothing to locate does nothing.  You have to have something for locate to look for.  i.e.  locate *.ogg
[22:19] <Jordan_U> rypervenche: Assuming that you can still type chinese characters #ubuntu-tw might be more helpfull as they will be more familiar with locale issues.
[22:21] <terry> rypervenche: .... but you may need to refresh the database.  Issue command: updatedb  or sudo updatedb
[22:21] <rypervenche> terry: locale, not locate
[22:21] <terry> rypervenche: Oh sorry...
[22:22] <rypervenche> Jordan_U: I am having the problem with en_US.UTF-8 as well though.
[22:22] <ChrisGagnon> rypervenche: what is in /etc/defaults/locale ?
[22:23] <bluenemo_> i created an usb live stick according to the ubuntu manual, when i boot i get (initramfs) mounting /dev/loop1 on /cow failed: Invalid Argument. then it gives me an initramfs shell. what can i do?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> rypervenche: Maybe boot a liveCD while getting support? (not saying that you need to get support elswhere, just that this channel doesn't seem to be very helpful to you at the moment).
[22:23] <rypervenche> ChrisGagnon: http://pastebin.com/1mNEVLma
[22:24] <Jordan_U> rypervenche: Do you have the same problem with the guest account or a newly created one?
[22:24] <fisch246> zvacet: meh didn't really help, they talked about the login sound, just like everyone else... i want to change the login SCREEN sound... not the GNOME login sound >.< i've already changed the gnome one...
[22:25] <rypervenche> Jordan_U: I'm not sure. I can't really log out right now to try it.
[22:26] <Andy-at-home> guys, im using the command line ftp and have (i think) started to download a file, the prompt has stopped moving at "150 2994688.0 kbytes to download", is the download in progress?
[22:27] <buckwheat> Hello
[22:28] <CyberJacob> hi
[22:28] <buckwheat> so uh
[22:28] <buckwheat> my problem is that when i try to load up ubuntu via USB
[22:28] <CyberJacob> there seem to be more people on mumble than are active here
[22:28] <buckwheat> i cant load it through my bios
[22:28] <CyberJacob> then boot from a DC instead
[22:29] <CyberJacob> *CD
[22:29] <buckwheat> i dont have one
[22:29] <buckwheat> well
[22:29] <buckwheat> i do
[22:29] <buckwheat> but i cant find it
[22:29] <FloodBot2> buckwheat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <CyberJacob> then burn another one
[22:29] <fisch246> zvacet: so when you start up your machine, and you hear those 2 drum pats... that's the sound i want to change... not the one that's a few seconds long that plays after you put in your login info
[22:30] <ChrisGagnon> rypervenche: have you tried changing your locale using the gnome panel's System -> administration -> language support ?
[22:30] <buckwheat> I cant find my CDs tho
[22:30] <CyberJacob> then buy new ones
[22:30] <buckwheat> ummm
[22:30] <buckwheat> ok...
[22:31] <rypervenche> ChrisGagnon: I have. Multiple times. It seems my computer can no longer read unicode as well. All characters in unicode come out as question marks.
[22:31] <buckwheat> so theres no way i can get my comp to check the usb ports for an OS
[22:31] <Jasonn> buckwheat: You mean to get it to boot from the USB stick?
[22:31] <rabbitfang> skrappjaw: this trick seems to have worked. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631503 thanks for your help.
[22:31] <ChrisGagnon> buckwheat: are you trying to use a usb 3.0 port to install ubuntu? that doesn't work right now. It only works with 1.1 and 2.0 usb ports
[22:31] <CyberJacob> you could see if a bios update is avalable
[22:32] <buckwheat> i have a usb 1.0
[22:32] <CyberJacob> is there such thing as USB3.0???
[22:32] <buckwheat> yep
[22:32] <Jasonn> CyberJacob: Yeah
[22:32] <ChrisGagnon> CyberJacob: they are blue
[22:32] <buckwheat> i wanted to get ubuntu on my old comp to squeez out some juice but...
[22:32] <CyberJacob> ...
[22:32] <SkrappJaw> rabbitfang: no problem
[22:33] <Jasonn> buckwheat: Doesnt have a CD port?
[22:33] <buckwheat> it does
[22:33] <buckwheat> i cant find my DVDs
[22:33] <buckwheat> and my parents wont buy any
[22:33] <Jasonn> buckwheat: You can order one online, gets there in a week or two - shipit.ubuntu.com
[22:33] <buckwheat> is it free?
[22:33] <Jasonn> buckwheat: Yeah
[22:33] <Jasonn> first one free
[22:34] <buckwheat> oh ok
[22:34] <buckwheat> so is there like anyway to get my bios to recognize it or will i need to update my bios
[22:34] <Jasonn> buckwheat: Just order it, POP its in, and BAM!
[22:34] <SkrappJaw> brb
[22:34] <zenguy_vm> is there anyway I can stream videos from usenet as i'm downloading it?
[22:34] <zenguy_vm> #usenet
[22:35] <Jasonn> zenguy_vm: Have to wait till its done
[22:35] <buckwheat> ok
[22:35] <Jasonn> Anyone know how i could keep irssi running on a shell?
[22:35] <zenguy_vm> Jasonn, but windows has a stream as you downoad application
[22:35] <wrd> Jasonn: maybe you want to look into screen?
[22:35] <Jasonn> zenguy_vm: It MIGHT work, i know XBMC works AFTER you download it
[22:36] <Jasonn> wrd: Lol, i meant after, so i can close the window..
[22:36] <rdx> :D
[22:36] <rdx> hallo allameaal
[22:36] <buckwheat> Allright
[22:36] <rdx> q
[22:36] <rdx> :D
[22:36] <buckwheat> well thanks for the help
[22:36] <zenguy_vm> Jasonn, ok thanks
[22:36] <Jasonn> buckwheat: Its really the best option atm, no problem mate
[22:36] <Jasonn> zenguy_vm: No problem mate
[22:36] <Aginor> jasonjang, use the "screen" program
[22:36] <Jasonn> Aginor: Thanks
[22:37] <wrd> ubottu: !screen Jasonn
[22:37] <Aginor> oops, foiled by tab completion
[22:37] <Jasonn> !screen Jasonn
[22:37] <tsimpson> !screen > Jasonn
[22:38] <Jasonn> thanks
[22:38] <energee> anyone know a way when using dual monitors, and desktop cube to put each monitor on their own workspace?
[22:39] <antant> Hey guys. Can anyone tell me what package I need to install to get   /usr/lib/libc.a     ?
[22:39] <ayecee> !find libc.a
[22:40] <ayecee> heh
[22:40] <ayecee> !find /usr/lib/libc.a
[22:40] <antant> why thank you!
[22:40] <antant> except I just installed that
[22:41] <ayecee> antant: alright then
[22:41] <bin_bash> I need to delete some files from the CLI that have spaces in the names. the path is /home/user/Random/Movies/Triumph of the Will/
[22:41] <soSuckHmu> very fantastic ubottu Bot!!1
[22:41] <bin_bash> I'm worried it won't work since there's spaces in the title
[22:41] <ab> yyyyyy?
[22:41] <antant> well you say very fantastic. It seems to have lied
[22:42] <ayecee> antant: it is in fact correct.
[22:42] <ayecee> antant: the next task is to find out why the package you installed didn't contain it.
[22:42] <antant> ayecee: Well it probably is. I'm just restarting to see if it makes a diff
[22:43] <wrd> antant: what is the problem?
[22:43] <joeoshawa> i have a slight problem i am trying to compile something and i am getting this error message
[22:44] <antant> wrd: Not finding /usr/lib/libc.a and I've just installed libc6-dev
[22:44] <joeoshawa> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[22:44] <wrd> antant: why do you need libc.a ?
[22:44] <joeoshawa> the language pack it wants is en-CA
[22:45] <antant> trying to build OpenELEC (kinda like XBMC Live, but better)
[22:45] <joeoshawa> which apparently does not exist
[22:45] <bin_bash> I need to remove a file from the CLI. Should I navigate to the folder and then don rm "./Triumph Of The Will" ?
[22:45] <soSuckHmu> who know how to use ubottu?
[22:45] <ayecee> bin_bash: seems reasonable
[22:45] <maco> !factoids | soSuckHmu
[22:46] <energee> hey guys, on a dual monitor setup, anyone know a way to set each monitor to their own workspace in compiz?
[22:46] <joeoshawa> anyone know how to fix that
[22:46] <bin_bash> It says Cannot remove is a directory
[22:46] <ayecee> bin_bash: is it a directory?
[22:46] <bin_bash> yes
[22:46] <shcherbak> bin_bash: Good movie, use "\ " or Tru*
[22:46] <ayecee> bin_bash: then you'll have to use rm -r instead
[22:46] <Jordan_U> bin_bash: Do you want to delete all of the contents of the directory?
[22:46] <bin_bash> Jordan_U: Yes
[22:47] <bin_bash> I need to free up space
[22:47] <wrd> antant: but libc.a is a static library? i suppose you are rather looking for an so file?
[22:47] <naomi_> What is a good IM client for ubuntu? I just wanna use msn, be able to change the theme and settings and have custom emotes.
[22:47] <bin_bash> naomi_: Pidgin
[22:47] <joeoshawa> i had a dual display with it running as one at one point and separate another but it had nothing to do with compiz
[22:47] <antant> wrd: well it told me I'm missing /usr/lib/libc.a
[22:47] <bin_bash> ayecee: what does rm -r do?
[22:47] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. I have an Ubuntu web server that keeps crashing for an unknown reason (once every few days). Where can I look in the logs to try and diagnose what the problem is?
[22:47] <shcherbak> bin_bash: man rm
[22:47] <ayecee> bin_bash: according to the rm manpage, it removes recursively.
[22:48] <joeoshawa> compiz is desktop effects
[22:48] <ejv> im trying to stop an array resync, because of a disk that has gone bad, but i keep getting a 'failed to stop array, device or resource busy' (this is via mdadm), how do I stop it?
[22:48] <JeffJassky> rm -r / fixes all server-related problems automatically.
[22:48] <zertyui> who know about mysql ?
[22:48] <Jordan_U> bin_bash: Then it would be: rm -ri "./Triumph Of The Will"
[22:48] <Jordan_U> bin_bash: The 'i' is optional, it makes rm ask for confirmation before deleting any file, which is usually a good idea when you're not completely confident you have the path right.
[22:48] <Jordan_U> !danger
[22:48] <bin_bash> ok i got it
[22:48] <shcherbak> JeffJassky: /var/log/ look in messages and syslog first
[22:48] <bin_bash> and it worked
[22:48] <zertyui> here what the command tell : INSERT INTO domain (domain,description) VALUES ('domain.tld','Test Domain');
[22:48] <zertyui> ?
[22:49] <bin_bash> how do i try to start gnome from the cli?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> JeffJassky: This is your only warning, do not post that or any other mallicious command in this channel again.
[22:49] <JeffJassky> Jordan_U: Will do..
[22:49] <zertyui> type startx bin_bash
[22:49] <zertyui> here what the command tell : INSERT INTO domain (domain,description) VALUES ('domain.tld','Test Domain');
[22:52] <joeoshawa> so how do i fix the problem with my language pack
[22:52] <zertyui> ?
[22:52] <ayecee> joeoshawa: maybe install language-support-en
[22:52] <shcherbak> ok, sound on headless system, why it do not work, alsa do not show any errors, but box is silent (using mocp).
[22:52] <bin_bash> YAY i was able to login to gnome!
[22:53] <JeffJassky> member:shcherbak My syslog only shows records since the last reboot - it doesn't show anything before the crash.
[22:53] <joeoshawa> does it matter that its asking for en-CA
[22:53] <magellan> theres is a blank lines in this command "diff /tmp/1/before /tmp/1/after | awk '{print $3}' |sort -d |uniq" how do i remove it.hope someone knows
[22:53] <jmwpc> zertyui: what is the question, exactly? Are you asking what that does?
[22:53] <joeoshawa> wouldn't en be installed by default
[22:53] <wrd> antant: what on earth is that project? it does use some weird build makefile, that runs apt-get and some weird shell skripts????
[22:54] <magellan> i mean theres is a blank line int the output
[22:54] <genii-around> shcherbak: Perhaps you need to run alsamixer and turn up the volume
[22:54] <magellan> i mean theres is a blank line in the output, how do i remove it..
[22:54] <antant> wrd: Uses lots and lots of shell scripts. Doesn't apt-get though
[22:54] <shcherbak> genii-around: :) will try
[22:54] <magellan> theres is a blank lines in the output of this command "diff /tmp/1/before /tmp/1/after | awk '{print $3}' |sort -d |uniq" how do i remove it.hope someone knows
[22:55] <zertyui> yes simply that's my question : jmwpc
[22:55] <wrd> antant: where do you want to deploy that thing? it does probably query the apt database for various build tools (i.e. build-essential etc.)
[22:56] <jmwpc> zertyui: it should insert a row into a database table called 'domain'... that's about it.
[22:56] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. I have an Ubuntu web server that keeps crashing for an unknown reason (once every few days). Where can I look in the logs to try and diagnose what the problem is? /var/log/syslog only shows post-crash data.
[22:56] <joeoshawa> i think the difference in the language pack is it supports both french and english
[22:56] <joeoshawa> not sure tho
[22:56] <benzaldehyde> How do i delete the "partner repository"?
[22:56] <rhin01> whats the best zip to use (directory,subdirectories) -- to zip up stuff from an XP system for transfer to a linux system (anyone)
[22:56] <antant> wrd: installed that. It's basically a vastly slimmed down XBMC Live. Boots on my htpc in about 13/14 secs from cold
[22:56] <magellan> rhin01,  try 7zip
[22:57] <benzaldehyde> rhin01: i've always used winrar
[22:57] <rhin01> 7zip will unzip on ubuntu -- right ok
[22:57] <genii-around> rhin01: I would also recommend 7zip
[22:57] <rhin01> whatever works
[22:58] <benzaldehyde> how can i delete partner repository
[22:58] <magellan> 7zip works very fine in ubuntu..i used it to compress my thunderbird mail and transfer to ubuntu
[22:58] <zertyui> and here : INSERT INTO alias (address,goto) VALUES ('alias@domain.tld', 'utilisateur@domain.tld'); ? jmwpc
[22:58] <magellan> theres is a blank lines in the output of this command "diff /tmp/1/before /tmp/1/after | awk '{print $3}' |sort -d |uniq" how do i remove it.hope someone knows
[22:58] <psycloud> How does one remove the mounted volume icons from the desktop in Unity?
[22:58] <magellan>  hi..theres is a blank lines in the output of this command "diff /tmp/1/before /tmp/1/after | awk '{print $3}' |sort -d |uniq" how do i remove it.hope someone knows
[22:59] <wrd> antant: if it's already deployed why do you want to compile it again? do you know what command does query libc.a ? (does it exist on your computer that file in particular?) and why the hell does it link libc.a statically instead of building it's own version of libc ????
[23:00] <antant> wrd: I'm building a custom version
[23:01] <jmwpc> zertyui: that does the same thing as the other command, just in a different table. You would probably have better luck with these types of questions in the #mysql channel
[23:01] <wrd> magellan: you can grep with -L and look for a lines that only have white spaces ? pattern should look somewhat like \s\+ or \s+ (not very good in grep style)
[23:02] <zvacet> benzaldehyde : gksudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list and in front of partner repo put # sign save and close sudo apt-geet update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:02] <rhin01> ok next quesiton == if I format a usb key to FAT will it be readable on ubuntu 10.04
[23:03] <genii-around> rhin01: Yup
[23:03] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i install chromium for 10.10 x64?
[23:03] <zvacet> benzaldehyde : * sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:03] <rhin01> excellent :-D
[23:03] <rhin01> I love ubuntu
[23:03] <bin_bash> hay guise, is it okay for me to drag and drop my home folder to my external in order to back it up?
[23:04] <bastidrazor> linux_is_my_hero: use the ppa for it.
[23:04] <genii-around> bin_bash: Probably not while you're using it
[23:04] <linux_is_my_hero> bastidrazor: can u remind me how? it's been awhile.
[23:04] <bin_bash> oh
[23:04] <linux_is_my_hero> :-D
[23:04] <bin_bash> why not
[23:04] <wrd> antant: using the system libc to compile a binary for another kernel is a _very_ bad idea. i guess you need to adapt the build system and you defo should be able to install libc.a its either in libc6-dev or in libc6
[23:04] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Okay so I have my microphone working with Mangler/ what ever it just works, but skype doesn't detect it :/
[23:04] <zvacet> linux_is_my_hero : isn´t it in synaptic
[23:05] <bastidrazor> linux_is_my_hero: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:05] <antant> Maybe the git didn't clone right
[23:05] <mbineganerdca> bin_bash: just use rsync
[23:05] <linux_is_my_hero> bin_bash: you can't move a folder that's being accessed. your home folder contains some hidden folders that keep track of last files opened, firefox favorites, backgrounds, etc.
[23:05] <wrd> antant: why should clone fail? you may be on the wrong branch?
[23:06] <pegnitz> i update the system yesterday, but after restart, the nm-applet just disappears.
[23:06] <linux_is_my_hero> bin_bash: so you could log out and do it from the tty, or do what i do: COPY the subfolders in the homefolder by selecting them all at once
[23:06] <antant> wrd: shouldn't be. On the one I'cve always been
[23:06] <mbineganerdca> bin_bash: you could right click copy and then right click paste, rsync is smart enough to pick up where it left off if it gets interupted part way through
[23:06] <bin_bash> mbineganerdca: Should I use rsync through the terminal?
[23:06] <genii-around> bin_bash: Because in Nautilus, drag and drop is moving the thing, not copying it. And also there are files open there.
[23:07] <bin_bash> genii-around: okay what should i do instead
[23:08] <j^> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ gives 404 here(via ipv6)
[23:08] <genii-around> bin_bash: as mbineganerdca suggested, use rsync
[23:08] <bin_bash> genii-around: how do i use rsync
[23:10] <genii-around> bin_bash: If you have grsync installed, it makes it fairly easy. But that's just a frontednd to the underlying command-line stuff which is better for you to look up examples if you want to do it that way
[23:10] <mbineganerdca> bin_bash: example "rsync -vau --progress /home/username /path/to/backup"
[23:11] <mbineganerdca> bin_bash: you could use a GUI front end as well
[23:11] <bin_bash> ok i'm installing grsync
[23:12] <barcef> is there a CLI equivalent to alsamixer for pulseaudio????
[23:12] <bin_bash> grsync is trustworthy right
[23:13] <maco> bin_bash: yes, its commonly recommended
[23:13] <bin_bash> ok
[23:13] <naomi_> I had an old wallpaper with the wallapaper as cube caps too. I've changed my wallpaper and deleted my cube caps but on my cube they still show up. How do I get rid of them? I've tried deleting but they're still there.
[23:13] <abahkaiyisah> can i use ubuntu-restricted-extras for lubuntu?
[23:14] <maco> abahkaiyisah: should work
[23:14] <bin_bash> mbineganerdca: in the options panel is there anything i should or shouldn't click?
[23:14] <abahkaiyisah> maco: thanks
[23:14] <Suhn> I booted linux today, and it wont connect to the internet. when i got to "network connections" nothing shows up. I have an ethernet cable plugged in
[23:14] <Suhn> I get perfect connections with windows
[23:14] <bonny> OMG HELP ME
[23:15] <bin_bash> bonny: that is unhelpful
[23:15] <bin_bash> !caps | bonny
[23:15] <bonny> i asked the question already
[23:15] <bastidrazor> bonny: your lack of giving a question prevents it.
[23:15] <Suhn> Please help^^^
[23:15] <bonny> look up
[23:15] <benzaldehyde> "fetching file 10 of 1414." i am upgrading to 10.04 LTS. why didn't Ubuntu offer me an upgrade to 10.10 or 11.something, why 10.04?
[23:15] <maco> bonny: not recently
[23:15] <bonny> ok ill type it again
[23:15] <fede> somedy tried to compile gnome-shell latelly?
[23:15] <fede> somebody I meant
[23:16] <maco> bonny: the "up" key may scroll back through for you to repost
[23:16] <bonny>  Ok I love the old classic game Doom. Now I want to play online so I downloaded python-zdaemon from lx terminal but which category will it be in and how would i open it from lx terminal
[23:16] <maco> bonny: if you run "dpkg -L python-zdaemon" it should show you all the files from that package. the file in question is likely in /usr/bin
[23:16] <sagredo> where is the natty support channel
[23:16] <maco> sagredo: #ubuntu+1
[23:17] <sagredo> thx
[23:17] <benzaldehyde> sagredo: what is natty?
[23:17] <Suhn>  I booted linux today, and it wont connect to the internet. when i got to "network connections" nothing shows up. I have an ethernet cable plugged in. I know the internet is fine, because when i use windows, it works fine. I have rebooted a few times. But it refuses to recognize the connections
[23:17] <Suhn> and it randomly started today
[23:17] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: ubuntu 11.04
[23:17] <fede> gnome shell support chanell then?
[23:17] <bonny> but how do i run it all it shows is a bunch of fules
[23:17] <bin_bash> Suhn: did you try right-clicking
[23:17] <Suhn> Right clicking?
[23:17] <bin_bash> maco: in grsync are there any options i should enable or disable?
[23:18] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: i looked into downloading it, does not have a ppc image yet though
[23:18] <bin_bash> Suhn: yes on the icon
[23:18] <Suhn> What icon. There is no icon. I go into System>Preferences>Network Connections>Wired
[23:18] <fede> nobody? ... welll... thanks anyway
[23:18] <maco> bin_bash: thatd totally depend on your use case and what YOU want it to do
[23:18] <bin_bash> maco: I just want to be able to restore my home folder
[23:19] <LjL> how do i know whether i have a "Sound Blaster Audigy *4*"? does the fact that "lspci" says "Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy Game Port (rev 03)" mean that it's a 3? if so, then why does Audacity seem to allow playing back at 96kHz (a 4 feature)?
[23:19] <maco> bin_bash: you're doing the backup right now?
[23:19] <bin_bash> maco: yes
[23:19] <Suhn> bin_bash: what icon?
[23:19] <maco> bin_bash: is there an "archive" option? rsync on the command line has that, and it just automatically includes all the options you'd want for a backup
[23:19] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: ppc is no lomnger supported imo
[23:19] <bin_bash> Suhn: in a panel, right clcik and select add to panel
[23:20] <bin_bash> Suhn: then select indicator applet
[23:20] <benzaldehyde> Suhn: what happens when you sudo dhclient device#
[23:20] <bin_bash> maco: no
[23:20] <joeoshawa> fixed the language pack problem thanks anyway
[23:20] <Suhn> Do you have any idea why it wont show up?
[23:20] <bonny> wow thnx for ignoring again
[23:20] <maco> bonny: ignoring = we have no clue
[23:20] <bin_bash> bonny: there are 1500 people here
[23:20] <maco> bin_bash: doesn't mean they're all actually at their keyboards
[23:20] <bonny> so
[23:20] <bin_bash> maco: that's my point
[23:21] <bin_bash> maco: not everyon can help everyone at every moment
[23:21] <genii-around> LjL: If lspci -nn reports 1102:0008    it's a 4
[23:21] <bonny> can i play online multiplayer on chocolate doom
[23:21] <iceroot> bonny: try it?
[23:21] <bonny> how
[23:21] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: does not supported mean no more cdimages for ppc in the future or just that there is no 'advice'
[23:21] <iceroot> bonny: by running it
[23:21] <LjL> genii-around: boo it reports 1102:0004 :(
[23:21] <ozatomic> Hey guys, i am wanting to downgrade a package from apt as it is not working for me. How can i do this?
[23:21] <bonny> but there is no play onlien button on the game
[23:21] <benzaldehyde> fede: anybody, what? what is happening?
[23:22] <LjL> ozatomic: downgrading is not supported, however you can try sudo apt-get install packagename=versionnumber
[23:22] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-powerpc.iso
[23:22] <maco> bonny: you can try ubuntuforums.org or askubuntu.com for it to be persistent instead of relying on someone being online RIGHT NOW
[23:22] <Suhn> benzaldehyde: no device
[23:22] <bonny> SWAYD maco
[23:22]  * LjL gives genii-around a bit of coffee anyway, even though he was the messenger of bad news
[23:22] <iceroot> bonny: i dont see the relation to ubuntu
[23:22] <robs58>  Greetings!  I am having problems changing my root password.  When I go to do a "passwd root", I get the following message:   Unknown error
[23:22] <robs58> passwd: unknown user (uid=0).
[23:22] <robs58> any ideas?
[23:22] <Suhn> bin_bash: indicator applet does nothing for about internet
[23:22] <genii-around> LjL: Heh, thanks :)
[23:22] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: wish i had met you days ago
[23:23] <iceroot> !sudo | robs58
[23:23] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: or google :)
[23:23] <bonny> well im using ubuntu
[23:23] <galamar> where is the best place to get help with programs such as hydra?
[23:23] <iceroot> robs58: dont use a root-account use sudo
[23:23] <irvie> any idea how i would access an ipod in banshee? rhythmbox lists it on the side pane
[23:23] <bin_bash> maco: if I use rsync from the terminal how do i know which options to use
[23:24] <deshymers> I have a fresh install on ubuntu 10.10 and my desktop is bigger then the actual screen, I am using the 260 nvidia driver and i'm having no luck getting this issue resolved despite reading the various forum posts, can any one offer any tips?
[23:24] <Suhn> My server has been down for a long time because of this internet problem
[23:24] <Jasonn> How do I edit a file in terminal?
[23:24] <robs58> iceroot...for reasons I can't really go into,  it is necessary to use root....any ideas on what can be causing that message?
[23:24] <bin_bash> Jasonn: vi filename.ext
[23:24] <iceroot> robs58: there is no single reason to use root-shell instead of sudo
[23:24] <Jasonn> bin_bash: Thanks (I sometimes forget_
[23:24] <th0r> Jasonn: nano might be easier to use than vi
[23:24] <KB1JWQ> Suhn: Does ifconfig show that the device is recognized, and has an IP?
[23:24] <iceroot> bonny: maybe ask the game developer
[23:25] <Jasonn> Thx
[23:25] <Suhn> Nope
[23:25] <Suhn> id used to
[23:25] <irvie> jasonn: may want to man vi so you can know how to save etc
[23:25] <Suhn> until this morning
[23:25] <irvie> it's in inherently intuitive
[23:25] <KB1JWQ> ubottu: Does dmesg say anything interesting about the device?
[23:25] <iceroot> robs58: and yes i know what is causing that message but having a root-account is not supported here
[23:25] <Jasonn> irvie: Thanks :)
[23:25] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: to be honest i probably couldn't use it, the 10.10 would not install on this and that iso looks like the right architecture but also i am on a ps3 so then it might not work for that reason alone. 9.10 is treating me fairly good all in all so no regrets
[23:25] <irvie> any idea how i would access an ipod in banshee? rhythmbox lists it on the side pane
[23:25] <irvie> Jasonn, np
[23:25] <KB1JWQ> Suhn: Does dmesg say anything interesting about the device?
[23:26] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: for the ps3 have a look at yellow-dog linux too
[23:26] <Suhn> That brings up 100 lines of stuff. and i have no idea what im  looking for
[23:26] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: i had 6.1 before but it wasn't as widely used as ubuntu so i opted for this
[23:26] <bin_bash> mbineganerdca: you still here?
[23:27] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: the problem is there are no drivers for the vga (geohot-hack is making linux possible at the hardware not the hypervisor)
[23:27] <bin_bash> Anyone here familiar with rsync?
[23:27] <iceroot> bin_bash: #rsync, man rsync  or ask a real question
[23:27] <benzaldehyde> Suhn: what happens when you sudo ifconfig eht0 up
[23:28] <bin_bash> iceroot: I would like to know how I know what the best options for me are
[23:28] <Suhn> I dont have time right now. Im booting into windows, ill get back tomorrow
[23:28] <iceroot> bin_bash: for what?
[23:28] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: sounds intelligently said although that is the problem, i have no idea what all that is
[23:28] <bin_bash> iceroot: I want to backup my home folder to my external so that when I re-install I can restore it
[23:29] <kcsrnd> bin_bash use tar?
[23:30] <iceroot> bin_bash: rsync -a sounds good
[23:30] <bin_bash> iceroot:  thanks
[23:30] <iceroot> bin_bash: also if it is in the same hdd, hardlinks are a good idea
[23:30] <bin_bash> what are hardlinks?
[23:31] <polah> What is FlexNet? I got this error message when installing GRUB: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track..
[23:31] <iceroot> bin_bash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link
[23:31] <maco> bin_bash: i use rsync -av src dest
[23:31] <iceroot> bin_bash: if you make a backup on another drive, hardlinks are not interesting for you
[23:32] <maco> bin_bash: -a = archive (backup), -v = tell me what you're doing (verbose)
[23:32] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: these downloads are painfully slow. when is ubuntu going to get a faster connection? my upgrade is only 700 Mb but is teetering between 2 and 3 hours remaining
[23:32] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: torrent or http?
[23:32] <deshymers> I have a fresh install on ubuntu 10.10 and my desktop is bigger then the actual screen, I am using the 260 nvidia driver and i'm having no luck getting this issue resolved despite reading the various forum posts, can any one offer any tips?
[23:33] <bin_bash> maco: can i do it while i'm using the computer
[23:33] <iceroot> benzaldehyde: ah upgrade, maybe choose another mirror, my speed is fine here
[23:33] <th0r> polah: http://www.google.com/search?q=flexnet+boot+sector&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[23:33] <benzaldehyde> iceroot: http, it's a distribution upgrade via System>Administration>Update Manager
[23:33] <chotaz> good night everyone, I'm thinking of permanently ditch out M$'s OS and switch to ubuntu 10.10 until 11.04 comes out, I just need one last think clarified before i go format, I need a good mp3/flac player(library feature is essencial) and a movie player which allows me to play HD 1080p perfectly(yes, my hardware can handle these) with softsub support. Any suggestions?
[23:34] <chotaz> thing*
[23:34] <chotaz> If there any media player that combines both, that'd be perfect.
[23:34] <semitones> chotaz, the defaults are good
[23:34] <ddbt_nl> how can i put vim syntax on in the terminal on a default natty (beta) installation?
[23:34] <Xiol> Hello! I would like to display a message after Server 10.04 has finished booting, but before the login: prompt is displayed. Where should this go, and will it support basic bash scripting?
[23:35] <chotaz> semitones, I kinda want the best, how good is good?
[23:35] <semitones> chotaz, rhythmbox and totem
[23:35] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, :syntax on
[23:35] <semitones> i like em
[23:35] <semitones> what's best is up to you
[23:35] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, you meant syntax highlight, right?
[23:35] <benzaldehyde> chotaz: i wonder if the GeeK Squad could answer those questions
[23:35] <ddbt_nl> yes
[23:35] <ddbt_nl> but i get an error message then
[23:36] <chotaz> benzaldehyde, Geek Squad?
[23:36] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, which one?
[23:36] <ddbt_nl> wait, i'll copy it montrieux
[23:36] <Xiol> chotaz: Like everyone on the Internet, you live in America. Don't deny it.
[23:36] <semitones> chotaz, the great thing about ubuntu is it's easy to install many programs and decide which you like best
[23:36] <chotaz> Xiol, I'm actually Portuguese :s
[23:36] <ddbt_nl> e319.. command is not available...
[23:36] <Xiol> chotaz: I was being sarcastic ;)
[23:36] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, please use irc autocompletion on my nickname so I'll get a notification that you sent me a message
[23:36] <benzaldehyde> chotaz: in USA there is a Geek Squad at BestBuy
[23:36] <ddbt_nl> how do you do autocompletion?
[23:37] <ddbt_nl> (empathy)
[23:37] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, type the first few letters, then <TAB>
[23:37] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: i see
[23:37] <ddbt_nl> like this?
[23:37] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: like this?
[23:37] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, yes
[23:37] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: i get an error message
[23:37] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: that the command is not available
[23:37] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, did you install the full version of vim? I think there's a  "smaller" one.
[23:38] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, try to run sudo apt-get install vim
[23:38] <chotaz> semitones, one of the things I'm not yet familiar yet in linux based OS's is how to completly remove programs from the computer, I understand packages make it easy and most of them have uninstall features embed, I'm more refering to tarball installing or manually compiling sources or w/e it's the proper term.
[23:38] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: the default version that came with natty (beta)
[23:38] <chotaz> familiar with*
[23:38] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, you may have to install the "full" verstion then
[23:38] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: strange that such a thing does not work out of the box
[23:39] <edbian> chotaz, Actually.  If you install a package there is ALWAYS an uninstall (via the package manager). The exact opposite is true with source you compile.  There is sometimes an uninstaller and usually it's a crap shoot figuring out what files were dumped where.
[23:39] <grusum> ddbt_nl: it is vim-runtime for the full version
[23:39] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: corporations are everywhere, who is to say the geek squad isn't in other countries?
[23:39] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, well, I guess that space on a CD is very limited, so choices have to be made
[23:39] <chotaz> edbian, that's exactly what I was refering to, and I wanna keep my computer 'clean' from unused, unnecessary files alap
[23:40] <semitones> chotaz, in most cases you don't need to compile from source because the program you want is  in the repositories already. But if you do, use a program called 'checkinstall' which makes it as easy to remove as any package
[23:40] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: works like charm, great
[23:40] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: thanks
[23:40] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, you're welcome
[23:40] <Xiol> benzaldehyde: Assuming they are is very ignorant.
[23:40] <b1lly> is xmpp server in the repository of linux?
[23:40] <zvacet> chotaz : if you compiled package then you have folder and inside that folder try sudo make uninstall
[23:40] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: still weird it dos not come out of the box..
[23:40] <edbian> chotaz, Well how many things did you download and install from source?  If you wanna remove them you'll have to go through them one at a time and figure out what files they dumped and remove them.
[23:40] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: i assumed they weren't which is why i mentioned it
[23:40] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: do you happen to know the reason  for that?
[23:40] <chotaz> semitones, checkinstall hum? seem's promising
[23:41] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, well, it sort of makes sense: non-specialist users are quite unlikely to use vim
[23:41] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: assuming you know it all is ignorant
[23:41] <semitones> edbian, checkinstall is good too
[23:41] <chotaz> edbian, I'm yet to format, was just getting some doubt answered first
[23:41] <Tec|Tec1> ubuntu 10.10; nvidia drivers: my laptop hibernated recently and when it woke back up it no longer recognized all the of resolutions of my external monitor. It should go up to 1280x1024 but the highest 4:3 it shows is 1024x768 any ideas on how to get it to go to 1280x1024?
[23:41] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, and they ship nano anyway, so I guess one command-line text editor is enough
[23:41] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: you weren't being sarcastic, you were being sardonic
[23:41] <michele> hi all
[23:41] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: there is a difference
[23:41] <lmontrieux> hi michele
[23:42] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: yeah, but if you ship vi(m) in the default setup.. why not add syntax support to it?
[23:42] <Xiol> benzaldehyde: Have you finished?
[23:42] <michele> i need a little help, i've installed some upgrades from maverick-proposed... can i revert it?
[23:42] <chotaz> ok one last thing before last rebooting from windows, how easy is it to upgrade from a version to a new one on ubuntu lik 10-10-11-04 when it comes out, should i just wait?
[23:42] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, I have no idea :)
[23:42] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: thanks anyway!
[23:42] <chotaz> btw: is there any release date announced?
[23:42] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, cheers
[23:42] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: no mister bond--i'm just gettin' warmed up
[23:42] <ricorx7> chotaz: one button
[23:42] <lmontrieux> chotaz, it's press-a-button-and-wait-a-bit easy :)
[23:43] <mbineganerdca> ddbt_nl: I don't vim is shipped by default, which is what you are looking for with all the syntax goodness
[23:43] <michele> ...
[23:43] <chotaz> awesome as f*ck, ok guys, I'm sold, gonna format this rig right away.
[23:43] <lmontrieux> michele, sort answer is "no"
[23:43] <ddbt_nl> mbineganerdca: vim gets shipped by default with natty at least
[23:43] <giiker> chotaz: I usually wait for bugs to be worked out ( specially security bugs, if any) and sometimes upgrade, but the last 2 versions I clean installed
[23:43] <chotaz> so totem, rythom, checkinstall and an 'upgrade' button answer everything i was really concerned about.
[23:43] <lmontrieux> michele, longer answer is "yes, but it's very very complicated"
[23:44] <ddbt_nl> mbineganerdca: and i think it gets shipped with older versions too..
[23:44] <zvacet> michele : do you mean uninstall yes look in synaptic with packages belongs to that repo and uninstall them
[23:44] <bonny> BATARDS FUCK U ALL
[23:44] <chotaz> giiker, clean install as in reformatting?
[23:44] <LjL> bonny: ok
[23:44] <IdleOne> !language | bonny
[23:44] <benzaldehyde> bonny: promise?
[23:44] <chotaz> boony, ok, you may go the same way you came in now.
[23:44] <mbineganerdca> ddbt_nl: I always end up installing vim as one of the first things I do
[23:44] <bastidrazor> bonny: climb a tree.
[23:44] <maco> bin_bash: i usually do, though it is *Possible* to get some weirdness if you happen to be editing a file at the moment it is copied
[23:44] <zvacet> !language | bonny
[23:44] <Xiol> bonny: I would very much like to make love to you.
[23:44] <michele> doh
[23:44] <bonny> fail go jump in a hole
[23:44] <giiker> chotaz:I usally keep my home partition ( my documents in winblows) and create the other from scratch
[23:45] <ddbt_nl> mbineganerdca: i know.. but "vi" is available for you at the command line right away
[23:45] <bin_bash> maco: konversation logs
[23:45] <benzaldehyde> bonny: your hole?
[23:45] <mbineganerdca> ddbt_nl: the vim that is there by default is either a symlink to vi or it is very stripped down
[23:45] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, vi != vim
[23:45] <maco> benzaldehyde: stop
[23:45] <bonny> hey
[23:45] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: i know it is not the same
[23:45] <bonny> Tehee srry
[23:45] <benzaldehyde> maco: she started it
[23:45] <mbineganerdca> ddbt_nl: yup, which  is fine for quick and dirty, I just am spoiled by the full meal deal of vim
[23:45] <maco> benzaldehyde: and i'm stopping it
[23:45] <chotaz> giiker, yeah I was thinking about leavin 80gb apart if i ever feel the rush to play something again (i.e. when diablo3 comes out) xd
[23:45] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: but vim is available under the vi command
[23:45] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, sure
[23:45] <benzaldehyde> maco: alrighty then
[23:46] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux, mbineganerdca: guess we tackled it
[23:46] <giiker> chotaz: believe me, you won come back to winblows, the only reason I was still using it, untill last summer, it was because i did not have a driver for my scanner, but amazingly found one by canon on their Asian website, amazzing
[23:47] <shcherbak> !minimal
[23:47] <chotaz> giiker, im affraid it wont be that easy since I'm a compulsive gamer
[23:47] <Xiol> Oh god, here we go...
[23:48] <mbineganerdca> ddbt_nl: good to hear, I just stepped back
[23:48] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: you're so negative, open up some windows, let the air in
[23:48] <giiker> chotaz: I have never felt more in control of what i can really do, imagine this, if you have the guts and push, you can even compile your own kernel and then buold your own distro...
[23:48] <chotaz> giiker, I'm in
[23:48] <chotaz> brb in about 30 mins when I'm done formating
[23:48] <Xiol> benzaldehyde: Hard not to be when this place is like the blind leading the blind.
[23:49] <lmontrieux> chotaz, well, if you're a compulsive gamer, Linux may look like rehab, then :)
[23:49] <benzaldehyde> Xiol: you know what they say, in the land of the blind
[23:49] <chotaz> off I am to a better IT future.
[23:50] <giiker> chotaz: goopd luck, and remember to never get frustated when you don get the help you need, sometimes you have to figure it out yourself...
[23:50] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: i notice it behaves quite diffrerently than the "default" version that comes with natty.. like the backspace button.. that is better now!
[23:50] <b1lly> anyone got any guides on xmpp?
[23:50] <pooltable> help how to installed Android SDK
[23:51] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, the "default" version is a bit weird, really. First thing I do usually is to install vim and emacs :)
[23:51] <lmontrieux> b1lly, client or server ?
[23:51] <b1lly> server
[23:51] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: don't know about emacs.. just learning vim haha
[23:51] <b1lly> and clients really
[23:51] <lmontrieux> b1lly, http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/servers/
[23:51] <b1lly> i wanna learn more about it and xmpp.org doesnt tell you much
[23:51] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: which one is better in your opinion?
[23:52] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, well it's really almost a religious question :). More seriously, I use both, but for different things: vim to edit config files and emacs to write LaTeX and code
[23:52] <b1lly> lmontrieux: Idk which one to choose theres like 30 diff servers
[23:53] <lmontrieux> b1lly, don't really know, I've never run an xmpp server :)
[23:53] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: well.. i'm just learning it for ruby on rails development purposes.. would it be the right one to learn?
[23:53] <b1lly> what is the purpose of ruby? is it a web development language?
[23:53] <geogeek1> lmontrieux:thanks :)
[23:54] <Xiol> b1lly: interpreted language. not restricted to web development
[23:54] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, there's both really powerful editors. It's really just a quesiton of personal preference. You may want to give both a try, and pick the one you prefer
[23:56] <BigWhale> Greetings... is there a dedicated QA channel?
[23:56] <th0r> BigWhale: for ubuntu? this is it
[23:57] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: before i go.. is there a convenient way to work on more than one documents (like a html and css file) from within one terminal?
[23:57] <lmontrieux> BigWhale, #ubuntu-quality
[23:57] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: or one vi instance
[23:57] <pooltable> help how to installed Android SDK
[23:57] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, yes. At the terminal level you may want to try GNU screen, which allows you to split your term
[23:58] <BigWhale> lmontrieux, just found it yes. thanks.
[23:58] <Xiol> pooltable: follow instructions on the Android website, they're pretty comprehensive
[23:58] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, at the editor level, both vim and emacs also allow you to split the screen
[23:58] <DaPenguin> ddbt_nl, most term apps do tabs, or you could look into emacs, supports  multiple buffers
[23:58] <pooltable> xiol thanks