[08:46] <bambee> morning
[09:04] <afiestas> apachelogger: have you seen pink unicorn in Freenode ? :p
[09:04] <afiestas> fluffy freenode!
[09:41] <afiestas> Riddell: This is the plan (tell me if it is compatible with Kubuntu)
[09:41] <afiestas> 1-Release today 1.1 RC
[09:41] <afiestas> 2-Have a week for last minute fixing (though we are going to test like crazies)
[09:42] <afiestas> 3-Release final 1.1 April 6
[09:42] <afiestas> 4-Make small releases 1.1.X with small improvements here and there (more than bugfixing)
[10:43] <kunal> Riddell: hello
[10:43] <kunal> Riddell:avogadro is still not building, any idea how to do that
[10:44] <kunal> Riddell: dependency on both libOpenGL and libQtOpenGL
[13:32] <c2tarun> is there any application available that can convert po files from one language to another?
[13:39] <steveire> c2tarun: A Hooman
[14:53] <txwikinger> Already tried out gmail motion?
[15:07]  * ScottK doesn't even know what it is.
[15:15] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: yeah :P
[15:15] <txwikinger> :D
[16:07] <ScottK> Riddell: Are you around for the release team meeting?
[16:16] <ScottK> I really wish there was a "No April Fools" posts options for the various planets.
[16:18] <Quintasan> :D
[16:18] <Quintasan> ScottK: I do my best not to get trolled.
[16:18]  * ScottK too.  I'd just rather not have to bother.
[16:21] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: HTC Vision can be overclocked to 2,5GHz, problem?
[16:22] <Quintasan> Why aren't we running Kubuntu on mobile phones already?
[16:25] <ScottK> n900 is out only ~supporteed platform.
[16:25] <ScottK> out/our
[16:40] <afiestas> Riddell: ping?
[16:41] <ScottK> I think he's not around.
[17:26] <ScottK> Solid is in kdebase-runtime, right?
[17:42] <bambee> ScottK: libsolid4 is in kdelibs and libsolid4control* are kdebase-workspace
[17:43] <bambee> I use "aptitude changelog" when I doubt :)
[17:44] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:45] <ScottK> It turns out I still had hal installed, so let's see if removing it helps...
[17:58] <bambee> ScottK: does it work ?
[17:58] <ScottK> It works with hal.
[17:58] <ScottK> Which when I upgraded to Natty caused me some trouble.
[17:59] <ScottK> Removing hal and usb-imagewriter sorted it.
[18:12] <apachelogger> ScottK, Quintasan: I think we are in need of a big picture strategy WRT mobile
[18:13] <apachelogger> I do not see it going anywhere but tech preview unless we find a way to get new kernels for new devices more easily
[18:13] <ScottK> Agreed.
[18:13] <ScottK> Which depends on arm getting to be more sane as a platform.
[18:13] <ScottK> That's sort of what Linaro is meant to fix.
[18:13] <apachelogger> well
[18:14] <apachelogger> in a way, problem is that one kernel will not cut it
[18:14] <apachelogger> like I am resonable confident our omap3 kernel would work pretty good on my tablet
[18:14] <apachelogger> just that it is too fat
[18:15]  * apachelogger needs to get a uds session on that stuff
[18:16] <steveire_> Hey, trying out natty
[18:16] <steveire_> nepomukservicestub crashes on login
[18:16] <steveire_> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267666 https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdebase/kde-runtime/repository/revisions/c1e733f5f715fe058c48fcc94bb5f67f4ae9cfc6
[18:17] <steveire_> Fix is trivial and is in kde 4.6.2. Will natty have 4.6.2 or .1?
[18:17] <apachelogger> steveire_: .2
[18:17] <steveire_> Ok, so no need to file a bug to backport
[18:17] <apachelogger> or maybe I remember the schedule wrong
[18:18] <steveire_> .2 is out April 5 I think
[18:18] <apachelogger> then .2 it is
[18:18] <steveire_> Well, that's if kde is running on schedule
[18:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: O_O
[18:18] <apachelogger> super freeze hits april 14 I believe
[18:18] <steveire_> ok
[18:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: but why would one want that? :P
[18:19] <steveire_> The nepomuk issue causes the akonadi dialog everyone hates :)
[18:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so you can watch pr0n in HD
[18:20] <apachelogger> steveire_: makes you wonder what is more broken the fact that there is a dialog at all or that it reports stuff no user would possibly care about :P
[18:20] <steveire_> Maybe
[18:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you can do that with the 1GHz processor as well
[18:21] <steveire_> Also, as of today X crashes when I touch my mouse pad
[18:21] <steveire_> And as of yesterday, wireless doesn't work
[18:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: not on android you can't 
[18:21] <shadeslayer> yes you can
[18:21] <steveire_> I noticed x updates today and dhcpclient+freinds update yesterday.
[18:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: stream stuff over with GMote + VMediaPlayer
[18:22] <apachelogger> I don't now what you are talking about :P
[18:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: and all the streaming stuff is done via Java
[18:23] <apachelogger> streaming?
[18:23]  * apachelogger does not compute
[18:23] <shadeslayer> ...
[18:23] <apachelogger> steveire_: I think those are worth bug reports, though surely there are already some
[18:24] <steveire_> Right. How do I get kdepim4.6 on natty?
[18:25] <ScottK> I think you ask shadeslayer why he's been slacking off even though he has no exams.
[18:25] <ScottK> (he will probably claim exams he failed to mention or his laptop was too heavy to lift)
[18:25] <bambee> OMG... I just turned on my car ... I went backwards... and my exhaust pipe fell on the ground o_O
[18:25] <apachelogger> http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/Z.Kalal/
[18:25] <ScottK> bambee: Get off IRC and drive the car.
[18:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: make a gsoc project
[18:26] <bambee> this is seriously a ***** day o_O
[18:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: done
[18:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: want me to mail the proposal to you?
[18:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no no,... http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/Z.Kalal/
[18:27] <steveire_> There is a repo I need to add though, right
[18:27] <steveire_> ?
[18:27]  * shadeslayer notes his connection is complete shit today
[18:27] <apachelogger> you are a poor shadeslayer
[18:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: that page is not opening
[18:27] <ScottK> IIRC shadeslayer is the one knowing about pim 4.6.
[18:28] <shadeslayer> what about PIM 4.6?
[18:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: get new intarwebs
[18:28] <ScottK> shadeslayer: steveire_ wants to install it.
[18:28] <ScottK> apachelogger: laptop too heavy for wifi to work.
[18:28] <shadeslayer> steveire_: \o
[18:28] <steveire_> Yo
[18:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: basically self-improving graphics pattern detection/tracking
[18:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK:  apachelogger: will need to replace the entire ISP to get a better intrawebs
[18:29] <ScottK> Yes.  And?
[18:29] <apachelogger> makes apachelogger go like .... oh wellz, we could do accessibility applications, games, make nu browsers....
[18:29] <ScottK> Always full of excuses.
[18:29] <shadeslayer> steveire_: so we have a alpha/beta release of it in our PPA
[18:29] <steveire_> kubuntu-members ppa or?
[18:30] <shadeslayer> lol ... the page is not even opening on a 3G Connection
[18:30] <shadeslayer> steveire_: one sec
[18:30] <bambee> ScottK: you did not understand, I was driving my car while my exhaust pipe fell on the ground ...
[18:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: maybe someone does not want you to see
[18:31] <shadeslayer> steveire_: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental
[18:31] <ScottK> bambee: I did understand.  I was just playing with you a bit.
[18:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: should you meet a guy called bond ... run
[18:31] <bambee> ScottK: ohh :D
[18:31] <shadeslayer> hahah 
[18:32] <bambee> unfortunately it's not an april fool :(
[18:32] <yofel> o/
[18:32] <yofel> steveire_: ppa for what?
[18:33] <yofel> ah, kdepim
[18:33] <steveire_> kwallet keeps telling me "There have been repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An application may be misbehaving."
[18:34] <steveire_> kmail seems to be asking me for my password too...
[18:37] <ScottK> steveire_: I've seen the kwallet thing too.  I think it's worth a bug.
[18:37]  * ScottK didnt' get around to filing it yet.
[18:37] <steveire_> Cannot load part for Mail. Cannot load library /usr/lib/kde4/kmailpart.so: (/usr/lib/libincidenceeditorsng.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN4KPIM22MultiplyingLineFactory16staticMetaObjectE)
[18:38] <steveire_> Possibly binary incompatibility becuase kontact 4.4 is trying to start itself for some reason while 4.6 is installing.
[18:40] <steveire_> mail migration seems to be working fine.
[18:41] <steveire_> Which is strange because I thought I was using disconnected imap...
[18:43] <steveire_> Can we somehow get kde 4.6.2 packages into experimental?
[18:43] <steveire_> Or is that a lot of work?
[18:43]  * steveire_ knows zip about packaging
[18:45] <yofel> steveire_: there is nothing to package yet, and they're going into natty anyway
[18:46] <steveire_> So I need to self build to test the fixes...
[18:46] <steveire_> Kinda defeats my plan of testing the packages for a few days
[18:47] <yofel> well, release is on the 5th as I see, so not that far away
[18:47] <ScottK> afiestas: Is Bug #747572 something you could look into?
[18:49] <steveire_> "An application has crashed on your system (now or in the past)"
[18:49] <steveire_> In a plasma notification
[18:49] <steveire_> Not much info there...
[18:50] <yofel> steveire_: that's apport being happily uniformative, the crashes are in /var/crash/
[18:50] <ScottK> steveire_: Right click and ask show details.
[18:51] <apachelogger> yofel: actually that is kubuntu nofitication helper
[18:51] <apachelogger> there is something broken there
[18:51] <apachelogger> I have seen it not go away
[18:51] <ScottK> Oh, yes.  I have seen that too.
[18:51] <apachelogger> though there were no reports or apport didnt want to show me them reports
[18:51] <apachelogger> very odd
[18:51] <yofel> o.O
[18:52] <apachelogger> afiestas: did you actually get to work on the display config stuff ScottK talked about some months ago?
[18:52] <ScottK> apachelogger: He didn't.
[18:52] <apachelogger> it is a sadness
[18:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: make a gsoc project
[18:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: check your mail
[18:53] <apachelogger> do you not want to compute or are you drunk? :P
[18:54] <shadeslayer> ?
[18:55]  * yofel wonders why apachelogger is talking about himself..
[18:55] <steveire_> hmm, akonadi doesn't work because nepomuk isn't starting a storage service, possibly because of the bug I linked earlier
[18:55] <apachelogger> yofel: self-obsession
[18:55] <yofel> ^^
[18:55] <steveire_> I guess I'll resume tesing after the 5th
[18:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i emailed you the proposal i've submitted to melange, go check
[18:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: sweetie, when will you learn that I do not read
[18:57] <apachelogger> make it a movie and I'll watch it
[18:57] <apachelogger> make it a song and I'll listen to it
[18:57] <shadeslayer> *shrug*
[18:57] <apachelogger> but... no way in test driven development will I read
[18:57] <apachelogger> oh
[18:57] <apachelogger> actually
[18:57] <apachelogger> jovie to the rescue
[18:58] <apachelogger> why read when the computer can read it to you
[18:58] <apachelogger> hooray
[18:58] <shadeslayer> ->princessYawn()
[18:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: jovie is reading my text?
[18:58] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It's not you who does the princess yawn.
[18:58] <steveire_> wow, the akonadiconsole debugger is enabled by default?
[18:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why wouldn it?
[18:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: You appear to have damaged your mentee.
[18:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i derive from apachelogger's class
[18:59] <ScottK> Some things are underivable.
[18:59] <steveire_> Or maybe I had an old config file around somewhere for that
[18:59] <afiestas> apachelogger: nope
[18:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: LOL ... jovie is fun
[18:59] <apachelogger> ehm
[18:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: there are worse things than princess yawns
[18:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you realize I am a singleton?
[18:59] <ScottK> apachelogger: That's true.
[18:59] <afiestas> I'm working on XRandR, I plan to return to that work when bluedevil 1.1 is released
[18:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so ScottK is very right when he says that some things are underivable
[19:00] <steveire_> akonadiconsole is much slower than it should be. Wonder what's causing that.
[19:01]  * apachelogger never noticed it being slow
[19:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh ... i quite jovie, it did not stop talking
[19:03] <apachelogger> yeah
[19:03] <apachelogger> it is like me on booze
[19:04] <shadeslayer> indeed
[19:04] <ScottK> or anytime ...
[19:05]  * apachelogger blinks
[19:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: heh ... i'm reading a book called Blinnk
[19:10] <shadeslayer> *Blink
[19:10] <shadeslayer> quite awesome ..
[19:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89gI2F6zUA
[19:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no bandwidth
[19:13] <apachelogger> you are no fun anymore
[19:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude i'm tethered to my phone .. only 200 megs of free data left :P
[19:14] <apachelogger> :O
[19:28] <shadeslayer> yeah
[19:46] <dantti_> someone knows why the notification are does not show "moving" "coping"  (ie the title of the transaction) in 4.6.1 or is just me?
[20:16] <blueyed> Is kdebase-bin meant to ship /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ubuntu-xmodmap ? "dpkg -S" says it's coming from it, but cannot find it in the source package?!
[20:19] <ScottK> blueyed: Did you mean http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=exactfilename&suite=lucid&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=80kubuntu-xmodmap
[20:51] <blueyed> ScottK: no, without the k. Found this bug about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/251247 - apparently another case of a non-cleaned up config file.
[20:51] <blueyed> I am trying to figure out why gdm fails to start gnome-session, when not in safe mode.
[21:05] <debfx> blueyed: indeed, kdebase-bin should delete 80ubuntu-xmodmap
[21:22] <blueyed> debfx: can you take care of it, otherwise I will file a bug for it.
[21:22] <blueyed> It was not the reason of Gnome failing, but an old ~/.gnomerc file.
[21:25] <debfx> blueyed: so there is no harm in having it around?
[21:27] <blueyed> no, just an entry in .xsession-errors.
[21:35] <blueyed> any idea why the system-settings style does not stick/apply to Qt apps running in Gnome? Preview looks good, but the actual windows do not: http://i.imgur.com/RPvhs.png
[21:58] <littlegirl> Hey there, are there any Kate developers in this channel right now?
[21:58] <maco> i think they have their own channel
[21:58] <littlegirl> Yeah, no developers are active in there right now so I was hoping to find one in here. (:
[21:58] <maco> ahh
[21:58] <maco> #kde-devel possibly?
[21:59] <littlegirl> I'll check, thanks. (:
[21:59] <maco> afaik, none of us are kate people. we have a phononian, an aroran, a gwenviewer...
[21:59] <littlegirl> I could try waving my magic wand and turning you into Kate developers. (:
[22:02] <sabdfl> ooh
[22:02] <sabdfl> i need a wand like that :-)
[22:02] <littlegirl> It's not working. (:
[22:03] <sabdfl> mine neither ;-)
[22:03] <littlegirl> (:
[23:45] <blueyed> jfi: qtconfig fixed it for me.