[00:30] hi [00:31] anyone here? [00:51] my user account lost the ability to sudo apt-get packages. is this a temporary thing or do i need to change the account so it has general sudo powers? [00:58] sorry, i lost connection [01:12] cato37 does it prompt you for a password or just say you don't have permission? [01:14] it prompts for a password and then refuses. [01:14] it says i have the wrong password [01:17] And yet this same password works for all other permissions. Correct? [01:18] that is with kpackage kit. with konsole it reads that i am not in the sudousers file and the incident will be reported. is there a way to grant sudo powers to only getting packages, or is it better to just give the account sudo powers. there are kids on this account that play games, and they know the password to get into this accountl [01:18] yes. [01:18] same password. [01:19] i am a little nervous with younger ones having sudo powers and playing with the settings. [01:20] Is there another account that has the permissions already or is this the only account? [01:21] the first account has the admin powers, this is the second account, but everyone uses it. [01:21] nobody uses the primary account. [01:22] Then try it with the primary account. If that's the origional user it will have the permissions. Just log into that one when you need to install or for anything sudo related. [01:23] ic. [01:23] i feel kind of silly. [01:24] Don't. No gain in feeling silly. Also I'm pretty new too. [01:25] someone said that if i change the password of the primary account so that it is different, then i can grant sudo powers to the 2nd account, and that will solve the problem we have. sometimes when we switch accounts the computer freezes and we have to cut the power. [01:25] I just asked earlier what the compatibility was between Kubuntu and Ubuntu. [01:25] thanx ratchet. i really like kubuntu. [01:25] it beats vista hands down. [01:26] and the program selection for music, and art is excellent. [01:26] Wow you were using Vista before? That's like modern day Windows Millenium!(worst OS ever) [01:27] uac wants to know if you want to talk about vista on this channel < yes> or < no> [01:27] lol [01:27] That's what came on the hard drive that is in my desktop. I got rid of that faster than I could read the title. [01:28] i hated vista. besides crashing like clockwork, the only thing that worked was onenote. when ms switched to the ribbon on the programs, i gave up on it. [01:28] um. I don't know much about it I just know that it took forever to do anything and was nothing short of cumbersome. [01:28] I went from Vista to XP home which was a little faster but still nothing compared to Maverick Meerkat! [01:30] hi [01:30] i have a question [01:30] i am a slow learner, but Kubuntu has been great so far, and i am learning it. vista just didnt make sense. kubuntu is easier to understand the design. [01:30] !ask | icalle_13 [01:30] icalle_13: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:30] what do i do so i could run lenux and windows same? [01:31] cato37: which Kubutu are you running [01:31] anything? [01:31] rats__: 10.10. [01:32] Im using 10.04 and dont see changing for a while-just too good [01:32] and have LTS [01:32] cato31: I've felt like a slow learner on this just because I've been raised on Windows. Fortunately the KDE system is easy to understand at a glance. [01:33] rats_: What's LTS? [01:33] Long Term Support - about 2 more years [01:33] icalle_13: do you mean having both on the same disk to run both when you need to run one of them, or do you mean have both microsoft and kubuntu running at the same time? [01:33] Oh yeah duh/ [01:34] icalle_13: This is a multi-step process. First, install Windows. When you do, only use part of your hard drive, not the whole thing (i.e. If you have a 160GB drive, only give Windows 80GB). Once Windows is installed, put the Ubuntu disk in the drive and restart the computer. Go through the install routine and install Ubuntu to the empty space left on your hard drive. The Ubuntu install will detect Windows and give you a boot option for it. When you' [01:34] re done, you'll have a choice of Windows or Linux whenever you turn on your computer. [01:34] This is my first non Windows OS so I can't help but love 10.10 [01:36] Ratchetman: Ya the more you use it the better it gets [01:37] I left Windows a while back and never looked back [01:37] rats_: I'm noticing that. I'm still trying to get used to commands and stuff but everyday tasks were never an issue which I liked. [01:37] kde 4.6 is out. has anyone tried it? [01:38] I've still got Windows but only because it's easier to play big release games. [01:38] Ratchetman: true from what I hear, but I'm not a gamer [01:38] Is anyone else having problems getting on to the Kubuntu forums? [01:39] I saw that it was released but I can't even fathom how I'd be able to. I definitely don't want to have to do a big instal. [01:39] quizno50: Kubuntu forums have been down all day. [01:40] i [01:40] okay... I thought it might just be my University network [01:41] anyone know how to set up the computer so your harddrive only uses half of it? one for windows and one for lenux? [01:41] i [01:42] u? [01:42] icalle_13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot [01:42] cato37: yep. it's the first kde 4 release i've used that's actually made me like kde === Axlin` is now known as Axlin [01:43] cato37: I'm using 4.6.1. It's great. KDE moves from strength to strength with each release. [01:44] so basically i got to manufacture my computer? [01:44] and tell it to have space for ubuntu? [01:44] so i set the kpagage to recieve the backports, and dl it like a regular program? [01:45] cato37: yeah, with ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [01:46] k. thanx. i have to go to the primary account. bb after its dled. [01:46] Have fun Cato37 [01:47] thanx all. [01:47] e_t_: Is it possible to just update my KDE to the new version? [01:48] Ratchetman: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [01:48] You have to enable the repository as Axlin indicates. [01:48] What is a repository? [01:48] after that you'll be running 4.6.1 [01:50] Ubuntu is not a "rolling release" so packages aren't updated except to fix bugs. If you want software that was released after your version of Ubuntu, you have to look for things like PPAs. A repository is a place on the Internet that stores downloadable software packages. When you apt-get update, you are refreshing your local information about what software is available from the Internet repositories. [01:53] Ok so add-apt is the function for selecting a program or system to update? [01:54] No. the command "add-apt-repository" tells your computer to look in a new place for software. The command "apt-get" is what you use to install, update, or remove software. [01:55] Got it! Gotta note that somewhere. [01:56] "and apt-get update" refreshes your repositories, and "apt-get upgrade" applies any available updates [01:56] You can look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list to see all the places apt-get normally checks for software updates. Any files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory will also be checked. Sources.list.d is where add-apt-repository things go. [01:58] Is that the konsole equivalent to "Get and Remove Software" then? [01:58] Yes. [01:59] Oooooooh. [02:02] one question [02:02] is there a way i could put the lenux on a cd and install it on the computer? [02:06] Yes you can download the OS from Kubuntu.org [02:06] onto cd? [02:07] Then just burn the ISO to a cd [02:07] ohh ok [02:07] how big is it? [02:08] roughly 680MB i believe [02:08] 700 MB roughly. Just small enough to fit on your average cd [02:09] Make sure you back up any of your important files before you go off formatting your hard drive. [02:09] if my old computer wifi was messed up since i did a recovery on it owuld it fix it? [02:10] or i would still need to find the harddrive for the wifi? [02:11] hey all, i installed 4.6.x like an idiot. this PC originally had gnome/ubuntu-desktop to start with, can i revert everything back to that and reinstall kubuntu-desktop stable? [02:12] arrrghhh: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome [02:13] i've tried that one before, didn't work flawlessly... [02:13] i'll try it again [02:14] icalle_13: There's a good chance that the wireless card is supported by Kubuntu so connectivity shouldn't be a problem. As to fixing a wireless network I wouldn't know. [02:14] Axlin, gives me a broken packages error :/ [02:15] ubuntu is lenux right? [02:16] ubuntu uses the linux kernel icalle_13 [02:16] lenux ? It is uses a Linux kernel yes. [02:17] Axlin, http://pastebin.com/GmSM20ah [02:17] the unmet dependencies i think are tripping it up... [02:17] i don't think the list of not installed packages would... would it? [02:18] gah i feel like such a noob. i never learn my lesson, always playing with unstable stuff :P [02:20] what it means the installation size? [02:20] icalle_13, the size of the installation...? [02:21] how much disk space you need? [02:21] idk [02:21] does it matter which one i put? [02:21] uhm... yes === besmart is now known as [C]` [02:22] it determines how much space it takes on the disk [02:22] i assume you're partitioning the drive? [02:22] ya [02:22] i got about 400gb of mem [02:22] ok [02:22] do you want ubuntu to use the full drive? [02:22] sure [02:22] Axlin, ping... can you help me with that broken packages error? [02:23] icalle_13, then have the installer do that [02:23] put it all the way to 30gb? === 92AACPVRD is now known as Ratchetman [02:23] icalle_13, it's up to you [02:23] Hello all === jvasquez is now known as jay [02:24] how much space do you want ubuntu to take up on the hard drive? do you want another OS installed at all? === Guest31106 is now known as Dragnslcr [02:24] arrrghhh: sorry, i'm off doing other things as well. you can try: $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f [02:24] i want to while i have windows also === jay is now known as Guest48377 [02:24] arrrghhh: -f = --fix. attempts to fix broken packages [02:24] ok === Guest48377 is now known as jay83 [02:24] and then re-try [02:25] just double checking i could bounce from ubuntu to windows right? [02:25] If I have dual monitor from PCI Express x16, can I use a PCI video card for a 3rd monitor? [02:25] icalle_13, you have to reboot to do that, unless you have a powerful enough machine to run a virtual machine [02:26] hmm [02:26] Axlin, apt-get update -f? [02:26] apt-get -f doesn't work... [02:27] apt-get install -f [02:27] d'oh, thx [02:28] hrm... didn't find anything wrong. just told me some things can be removed with autoremove, which i just did. [02:28] it didn't spit out any errors that time then? [02:29] nope. gonna update and try to remove after the update. [02:29] update && upgrade [02:30] damn... still broken packages. [02:32] arrrghhh: have you disabled the kubuntu backports repository? [02:32] ah... i bet not. [02:34] you can remove it in synaptic from settings → repositories → other software. or it will be listed in /etc/apt/sources.list.d [02:34] if you still have it, you can remove it either way. and then run an apt-get update [02:35] Does anyone here have 2 video cards on a desktop without SLI support? [02:39] i upgraded to kde 4.6. where did they put the search function on dolphin? [02:41] damn [02:41] still failing Axlin... same error. i removed some java repo i had in there as well [02:42] cato37, you don't have a search button? [02:42] sorry "find" [02:42] arrrghhh: no. it used to be in . i thought maybe the moved it for 4.6 [02:42] cato37: Which user are you on? [02:42] arrrghhh: try cleaning any partial packages and the apt cache. sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean [02:43] Ratchetman: i am on the 2nd user. [02:44] cato37, i have a find button, and a find option under the edit menu... [02:45] cato37: I think you can temporarily change to superuser in terminal. " sudo -i -u " I think that's how you can log into your main for a task or something. [02:45] arrrghhh: right. not find, but the dolphin > tools > search function that lets me search the files. [02:46] oh... that's all i have too. [02:46] cato37: Find File is in the tools tab [02:46] hit ctrl+F [02:48] Ratchetman: not find. the search command that was in the tools tab. [02:48] Axlin, it seemed to do something on the first run, removed a bunch of stuff... but same error when i try to do that beast remove command [02:49] cato37: Ok so they're not the same I gather. [02:49] search was a a box that allows you to configure search parameters for different files, types, etc. [02:49] arrrghhh: does it show anything if you go into synaptic → custom filters → broken? [02:49] may have to reload synaptic [02:49] let me see... === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [02:50] 0 broken :/ [02:50] kubuntu (~kubuntu@190.48.177.233) has joined #kubuntu Kubuntu himself is now here! [02:52] Ratchetman: you scared him away. [02:52] Aww it would appear as though I have. [02:53] Axlin, so 0 broken. what next? [02:53] Shoulda logged on as invisible if he didn't want to be bothered. [02:53] arrrghhh: apart from going through each package that it's spitting out errors for and finding the bad apple... i'm about out of ideas here [02:53] it could be a different conflicting repository, if you have any [02:53] Axlin, yea that's why i wasn't a fan of that command... there's no other way? [02:54] i removed all the 3rd party ones, just ubuntu core stuff now AFAIK [02:54] well we've tried fixing broken packages, cleaning apt's cache, removing partial apps, and removing kubuntu's backports repository... not sure what else, honestly [02:55] ic what they did. they merged the find and the search functions. they got rid of the search box, and made it like xp. :( [02:56] i wonder if there is a way to access it? [02:57] does it work like the old search? i don't see the problem [02:57] if they merged it... and you haven't lost functionality... no? [02:58] no, it works like the xp search function. the old search box was more like the old norton commander or the amiga toolbox search panel [02:59] not few configuration options. i am going thru an old crashed hd trying to sort 180 gigs of files. the find functions isnt going to do it. [03:00] maybe i am missing something. i will go to the kde room, and see if they might have tucked the functions away somewhere i havent found. [03:08] ok, can someone explain this? locate *.iso turns up 1 file, while find . -size +2G turns up 8 different .iso files with small letters??? [03:08] Well my day of Kubuntu experimentation has come to a close. See you guys later. [03:10] ahhh, locate .iso turns up a bunch, odd though, I still don't quite understand it. [03:11] shane4ubuntu: the locate command works off a database that has to be updated. If you run the command "sudo updatedb", then "locate *.iso" you will probably see the files. [03:12] e_t_: well, I had already run the updatedb command as root, because I have done that before. [03:12] locate *.iso turns up one file while locate .iso turns up more than 10 different .iso files? [03:12] I didn't know that's how locate worked until I used it on FreeBSD. [03:13] I thought perhaps spaces, but most of my files don't contain spaces [03:13] e_t_: I'm fond of the locate command, so I learned real quick to run updatedb often, I usually put it as a root crontab [03:13] I'm learning to really like the find command too. [03:14] I like locate too, but it's one you can use for a long time without knowing how it works. [03:14] very true, I'm quite perplexed by this rare output though, very odd. [03:16] I usually search for things in the GUI, using programs like Recoll or Nepomuk/Strigi. [03:17] e_t_: I love cli, and do most of my heavy lifting there, though I do appreciate a nice gui. [03:18] besides nepomuk/strigi have been broke for me since switching over to kde. :(, even with a fresh install, they have issues. [03:19] Really? They've been great for me ever since the switch to the virtuoso database in 4.4. [03:20] when I first installed, it crashed indexing all the time, never did finish, upgrade to 4.x and then it completely hogged the system, until I killed it, now I'm up to 4.6 and haven't messed with it, just expect it not to work [03:22] shane4ubuntu: its been working for me since 4.5 ^^ [03:23] So...ummm... Can anyone help me on how to get minecraft to work [03:23] and have never had an issue with it since then... dont even notice it anymore [03:23] James147: i should try and turn mine back on, just haven't messed with it. [03:23] melodie_: install openjdk run it ^^ [03:24] James147: are you on 4.6? [03:24] I did O.O... my broser is firefox and it won't load either one...I get either a lzma data error or the screen in just black [03:24] James147: also did you do anything to the settings to make it run better? more efficient? [03:24] melodie_: minecraft is a java application so prity much just works ^^ though you will need the java and the Minecraft.jar file from the site [03:24] !java [03:25] To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [03:25] melodie_: download the jar ^^ rather then using a browser [03:25] oh... *Facepalm* i didn't do that [03:25] my menu bar/desktop dissapeered after a reboot. how can i get it back? [03:26] lovesthethianood: the panel? right click the desktop > add panel [03:26] (once widegts are unlocked [03:26] right clicking on nmy desktop dose not show any menu anymore [03:26] /James147 right clicking on nmy desktop dose not show any menu anymore [03:27] lovesthethianood: does the backgound not load as well? [03:27] James147: how much memory do you have nepomuk set to use? what is a good amount? I think I changed mine in the System Settings -> Desktop Search thing, under the advanced tab. [03:27] shane4ubuntu: think i am useing the default (50 if i remember correctly) [03:28] ok, thanks! Mine was set at 100, perhaps that is the default? I bumped mine up a little, because I'm off to be, I will drop it back down later if it causes an issue. [03:28] bed [03:29] shane4ubuntu: (and yes, i am on 4.6 now) [03:29] ok, night and thanks. [03:29] night [03:34] James147: How do I download the jar file >.< its so confusing... [03:34] anyone knows when kubuntu 11.04 beta would be released? [03:35] melodie_: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar?v=1301625329683 [03:35] ^^ click that [03:36] bigbrovar2: April something i think...no wait... let me look it up [03:37] bigbrovar2: the beta has been out for a while now [03:37] bigbrovar2: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyReleaseSchedule [03:38] oh ok would have checkout kubuntu.org then for release nit and stuff [03:38] James147: Did that...the problem is actually installing it :( [03:38] melodie_: you dont install it ^^ jsut run it (in terminal type "java -jar path/to/Minecraft.jar" [03:39] melodie_: you should also be able to make it executable and just click it ^^ [03:39] as well ^^ [03:39] Unable to access jarfile path/to/Minecraft.jar [03:40] or maby not :p [03:40] melodie_: ^^ replace path/to with the actual path [03:40] and make sure you get the case right ^^ i think the newer launcher uses lowercase m [03:44] James147: Fml...ugh nothing is working :( [03:45] melodie@krusty% java -jar path/to/Minecraft.jar ~ [03:45] Unable to access jarfile path/to/Minecraft.jar [03:45] (1)melodie@krusty% java -jar path/Minecraft.jar ~ [03:45] zsh: no matches found: path/to/Minecraft(2).jar [03:45] (1)melodie@krusty% java -jar path/to/minecraft.jar ~ [03:45] melodie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:45] Unable to access jarfile path/to/minecraft.jar [03:45] melodie_: path/to/minecraft.jar is a sudo path ^^ (not real) replace it with the actual location ^^ [03:46] melodie_: try ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar ^^ though i dont actually know where you downloaded it to [03:46] !pastebin | melodie_ use pastebin for multi-line pastes [03:46] melodie_ use pastebin for multi-line pastes: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:47] James147: my home folder... [03:50] Does anyone here have 2 video cards on a desktop without SLI support? f I have dual monitor from PCI Express x16, can I use a PCI video card for a 3rd monitor? [03:53] i upgraded to kde 4.6. i dont no the name for it, but when you run the cursor up into the menu kicker real fast and the screen changes to show all open windows. when i do that, the computer freezes. [03:53] *i dont know the name for it [03:54] cato37: thats the present windows desktop effect [03:54] i like to use it. how do i stop it from seizing up? [03:55] James147: should i report it as a bug? === darkdelusions is now known as darkdelusions_ [04:53] how do I revoke certificate permissions in konqueror? [05:10] micahg: maybe this might help.... http://products.secureserver.net/products/faq_secureturbo.htm [05:10] TheBuntu: no, I meant in the browser itself, not the certificate [05:13] let me get konqueror installed and i see if i can figure it out [05:22] micahg: i dont see anything about certificates in konqueror [05:25] TheBuntu: hey, now you see my problem :) [05:27] what do you need to revoke certificate for [05:27] TheBuntu: I'm testing something [05:28] ohh [06:26] gah, it seams like every other boot my hd is swapping from sda to sdb. Any idea what in the world causes that and to lock it ? [06:26] Right [06:26] April 1 [06:27] :) [06:27] * Daskreech sighs [06:27] never try to discuss serious topic on 1st April. It's exhausting. [06:27] uhg [06:28] lets pretend its the 2nd already, this is annoying [06:28] Login here and ... wait A Pink Unicorn? [06:28] heh yea the ascii spam was ... phun [06:28] CartoonCat: BIOS (should) set boot preferenence [06:29] Daskreech: boot pref is as it always has been, usb stick, cd, hd (gentoo didnt do this, and kub on any of my other laptops doesnt do this) [06:29] and no, nothing is plugged into usb nad no disc is in the drive [06:29] CartoonCat: No that's Channel it can be more specific like SATA before PATA or so on [06:30] hmm no such options on this laptop [06:32] %$#, i just noticed, fstab says # / was on /dev/sdb5 during installation [06:34] how do i figure out what UUID goes to the partiton I want? [06:34] http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html [06:34] !uuid [06:34] To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) [06:35] hmm [06:35] ok, blkid gives a uuid for my 4rth partition, but wow it look /way/ different then the other partitions [06:36] UUID="e0373a99-8cc8-476b-a0ab-7eda185d26da" vs UUID="62D647E6D647B8D5" [06:36] Hi! [06:37] and, mount -a isnt mounting, mmm [06:38] Need some help here. I previously installed Fedora, with a /home SEPARATE partition. Now I installed Kubuntu 10.10 replacing fedora, but now I'm not the owner of the /home on my current user [06:38] fstab /is/ the correct place for perm mounts still, yes [06:38] what can I do :( (sorry to interrupt you CartoonCat) [06:38] rulyone: your user id/group id is now different, chown -R user location [06:39] to root? or to my user? [06:39] chown -R user /home? [06:40] or chown -R root /home [06:40] ? [06:40] well, i'll try both [06:40] chown -R username /home/username (or what ever the target home directory is) [06:40] one should do the job, thx :D [06:40] tahnks [06:40] got it [06:41] well, I had to add the sudo part, thanks a LOT! [06:42] yup [06:44] rulyone: chown -R username: <--- note that /home [06:44] umm /home/username [06:44] put a colon after the username [06:44] i did this: sudo chown -R rulyone /home/rulyone [06:45] and it works, is something wrong with that? [06:45] Daskreech: what did I miss with the colon? [06:45] how do i select a file in kde 4 in dolphin [06:45] rulyone: no but you can redo it with the colon [06:45] and whats the difference with the colon? :o [06:45] cato37: either click on it or hover over it and a + will appear in the corner. click on the + [06:46] it will change to a - which will deselect when you click on it [06:46] Daskreech: and any idea why that UUID is so different? mount doesnt seam to like it [06:46] CartoonCat: the colon changes the group to match the username as well. It's a shorthand [06:46] Daskreech: i upgraded to 4.6 and no plus or minuses appear, clicking it opens it, and hovering does nothing. [06:47] Daskreech: ah! [06:47] buuuug [06:47] cato37: another option is to disable single clicks: Go to Kickoff Application launcher -> type "mouse", open Mouse (mouse settings) and choose double click to open files. [06:48] i dont want to open it, i want to select it so it can be archived with ark. [06:48] cato37: I was about to ask if you have things set to single or double click [06:48] cato37: if you just want to do something quickly hold ctrl then click on the file [06:48] that will select it [06:48] (still it's not normal not to get the "+") [06:49] k. shift and hover [06:49] cato37: do what I just told you... if you select the "double click to open files" option, you can select files by SINGLE CLICKS, just like in gnome (or window$) [06:49] CartoonCat: Any number of reasons but does the partition mount cleanly? [06:49] cato37: Found a work around? [06:49] hi stephdg [06:49] Daskreech: if I type it out /dev/sdb instead, ya [06:50] CartoonCat: /dev/sdb what? [06:50] opps, 4 [06:50] sdb4 [06:50] sorry, when i move the cursor so that "display windows"appears the screen freezes for about 20 seconds. i moved the cursor to the kickoff button too quickly. [06:50] hi Daskreech [06:51] Hello [06:51] cato37: ... does that mean you are ok? [06:51] CartoonCat: Alright does the UUID match what's in fstab? [06:51] http://pastebin.com/WKHxdU92 [06:52] Daskreech: sorry, my screen keeps freezing. [06:52] Daskreech: I got the UUID from the blkid app [06:52] cato37: also not normal. Is your HDD ok? [06:53] so /i/ put the uuid in, there was no entry before at all (i ehco'd the original mount line on, and it some times worked, namely when it coems up as sda not sdb) [06:53] and the fstab line now looks like UUID=62D647E6D647B8D5 /mnt/hd auto noauto 0 0 [06:53] i turned off the desktop effects. [06:53] CartoonCat: so the fstab uses the raw device name not the UUID? [06:53] Daskreech: it did, i changed it [06:54] Daskreech: if i set it back to /dev/sdb4, it mounts up fine [06:54] ok see how that works out then [06:54] huh. okay. now the plusses and minuses are there. [06:54] well /thats/ the problem! next boot, it likely will be called /dev/sda4 !!! [06:54] the HD /is changing between a and b with each boot/ [06:55] Daskreech: the plusses and minuses are now appearing in dolphin. it happened after i turned off the desktop effects. the effect "display windows" was freezing the screen. [06:56] cato37: ah ok Disable that effect then :) [06:58] Daskreech: any ideas whats wrong with the uuid? anyway to get some verbosity out of mount [06:58] man mount [06:59] Daskreech: sorry i am not more skilled at understanding this. i tend to be slow sometimes. thank you for your help. [06:59] ive done that, tried -v and i do get /some/ info, but it jsut ends with /nothing mounted/ [06:59] cato37: You did fine [06:59] good job on trying to disable the desktop effects. How did you do that? [07:00] CartoonCat: what was the command you tried? [07:00] mount -avv [07:01] i did read it right, -a causes it mount everything in fstab [07:01] ? [07:02] Daskreech: when i first installed kubuntu it was 10.04 and an earlier kde, and the desktop effects didnt work right. they worked fine in kubuntu 10.10 and kde 4.5 so i turned them on. [07:02] Right [07:02] CartoonCat: try mount -vv /mount/point [07:04] that mounted [07:04] shouldnt -a have caused it to mount too? [07:07] CartoonCat: Not sure can't recall trying that with a UUID [07:07] in theory I suppose yes it should [07:07] ah well, it should be good on boot now, ty very much === reisi_ is now known as reisi [07:25] Hello? Anyone here? [07:25] nope [07:25] the massive list of people in the channel is just a figment of your imagination [07:29] well that worked :-p [08:09] Hi everyone, can someone please see this paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588136/ ? I get an akonadi dialog everytime my pc starts Kontact - KDE is updated to 4.6.1 [08:27] naftilos76: Do you have two resources? [08:28] two resources? sorry, i don't get it. Can you pls explain? [08:35]