[00:30] <icalle_13> hi
[00:31] <icalle_13> anyone here?
[00:51] <cato37> my user account lost the ability to sudo apt-get packages. is this a temporary thing or do i need to change the account so it has general sudo powers?
[00:58] <cato37> sorry, i lost connection
[01:12] <Ratchetman> cato37 does it prompt you for a password or just say you don't have permission?
[01:14] <cato37> it prompts for a password and then refuses.
[01:14] <cato37> it says i have the wrong password
[01:17] <Ratchetman> And yet this same password works for all other permissions. Correct?
[01:18] <cato37> that is with kpackage kit. with konsole it reads that i am not in the sudousers file and the incident will be reported. is there a way to grant sudo powers to only getting packages, or is it better to just give the account sudo powers. there are kids on this account that play games, and they know the password to get into this accountl
[01:18] <cato37> yes.
[01:18] <cato37> same password.
[01:19] <cato37> i am a little nervous with younger ones having sudo powers and playing with the settings.
[01:20] <Ratchetman> Is there another account that has the permissions already or is this the only account?
[01:21] <cato37> the first account has the admin powers, this is the second account, but everyone uses it.
[01:21] <cato37> nobody uses the primary account.
[01:22] <Ratchetman> Then try it with the primary account. If that's the origional user it will have the permissions. Just log into that one when you need to install or for anything sudo related.
[01:23] <cato37> ic.
[01:23] <cato37> i feel kind of silly.
[01:24] <Ratchetman> Don't. No gain in feeling silly. Also I'm pretty new too.
[01:25] <cato37> someone said that if i change the password of the primary account so that it is different, then i can grant sudo powers to the 2nd account, and that will solve the problem we have. sometimes when we switch accounts the computer freezes and we have to cut the power.
[01:25] <Ratchetman> I just asked earlier what the compatibility was between Kubuntu and Ubuntu.
[01:25] <cato37> thanx ratchet. i really like kubuntu.
[01:25] <cato37> it beats vista hands down.
[01:26] <cato37> and the program selection for music, and art is excellent.
[01:26] <Ratchetman> Wow you were using Vista before? That's like modern day Windows Millenium!(worst OS ever)
[01:27] <cato37> uac wants to know if you want to talk about vista on this channel  < yes> or < no>
[01:27] <cato37> lol
[01:27] <Ratchetman> That's what came on the hard drive that is in my desktop. I got rid of that faster than I could read the title.
[01:28] <cato37> i hated vista. besides crashing like clockwork, the only thing that worked was onenote. when ms switched to the ribbon on the programs, i gave up on it.
[01:28] <Ratchetman> um. I don't know much about it I just know that it took forever to do anything and was nothing short of cumbersome.
[01:28] <Ratchetman> I went from Vista to XP home which was a little faster but still nothing compared to Maverick Meerkat!
[01:30] <icalle_13> hi
[01:30] <icalle_13> i have a question
[01:30] <cato37> i am a slow learner, but Kubuntu has been great so far, and i am learning it. vista just didnt make sense. kubuntu is easier to understand the design.
[01:30] <e_t_> !ask | icalle_13
[01:30] <icalle_13> what do i do so i could run lenux and windows same?
[01:31] <rats__> cato37: which Kubutu are you running
[01:31] <icalle_13> anything?
[01:31] <cato37> rats__: 10.10.
[01:32] <rats__> Im using 10.04 and dont see changing for a while-just too good
[01:32] <rats__> and have LTS
[01:32] <Ratchetman> cato31: I've felt like a slow learner on this just because I've been raised on Windows. Fortunately the KDE system is easy to understand at a glance.
[01:33] <Ratchetman> rats_: What's LTS?
[01:33] <rats__> Long Term Support - about 2 more years
[01:33] <cato37> icalle_13: do you mean having both on the same disk to run both when you need to run one of them, or do you mean have both microsoft and kubuntu running at the same time?
[01:33] <Ratchetman> Oh yeah duh/
[01:34] <e_t_> icalle_13: This is a multi-step process. First, install Windows. When you do, only use part of your hard drive, not the whole thing (i.e. If you have a 160GB drive, only give Windows 80GB). Once Windows is installed, put the Ubuntu disk in the drive and restart the computer. Go through the install routine and install Ubuntu to the empty space left on your hard drive. The Ubuntu install will detect Windows and give you a boot option for it. When you'
[01:34] <e_t_> re done, you'll have a choice of Windows or Linux whenever you turn on your computer.
[01:34] <Ratchetman> This is my first non Windows OS so I can't help but love 10.10
[01:36] <rats__> Ratchetman: Ya the more you use it the better it gets
[01:37] <rats__> I left Windows a while back and never looked back
[01:37] <Ratchetman> rats_: I'm noticing that. I'm still trying to get used to commands and stuff but everyday tasks were never an issue which I liked.
[01:37] <cato37> kde 4.6 is out. has anyone tried it?
[01:38] <Ratchetman> I've still got Windows but only because it's easier to play big release games.
[01:38] <rats__> Ratchetman: true from what I hear, but I'm not a gamer
[01:38] <quizno50> Is anyone else having problems getting on to the Kubuntu forums?
[01:39] <Ratchetman> I saw that it was released but I can't even fathom how I'd be able to. I definitely don't want to have to do a big instal.
[01:39] <Ratchetman> quizno50: Kubuntu forums have been down all day.
[01:40] <shellthor> i
[01:40] <quizno50> okay... I thought it might just be my University network
[01:41] <icalle_13> anyone know how to set up the computer so your harddrive only uses half of it? one for windows and one for lenux?
[01:41] <shellthor> i
[01:42] <icalle_13> u?
[01:42] <e_t_> icalle_13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[01:42] <Axlin`> cato37: yep. it's the first kde 4 release i've used that's actually made me like kde
[01:43] <e_t_> cato37: I'm using 4.6.1. It's great. KDE moves from strength to strength with each release.
[01:44] <icalle_13> so basically i got to manufacture my computer?
[01:44] <icalle_13> and tell it to have space for ubuntu?
[01:44] <cato37> so i set the kpagage to recieve the backports, and dl it like a regular program?
[01:45] <Axlin> cato37: yeah, with ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[01:46] <cato37> k. thanx. i have to go to the primary account. bb after its dled.
[01:46] <Ratchetman> Have fun Cato37
[01:47] <cato37> thanx all.
[01:47] <Ratchetman> e_t_: Is it possible to just update my KDE to the new version?
[01:48] <Axlin> Ratchetman: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:48] <e_t_> You have to enable the repository as Axlin indicates.
[01:48] <Ratchetman> What is a repository?
[01:48] <Axlin> after that you'll be running 4.6.1
[01:50] <e_t_> Ubuntu is not a "rolling release" so packages aren't updated except to fix bugs. If you want software that was released after your version of Ubuntu, you have to look for things like PPAs. A repository is a place on the Internet that stores downloadable software packages. When you apt-get update, you are refreshing your local information about what software is available from the Internet repositories.
[01:53] <Ratchetman> Ok so add-apt is the function for selecting a program or system to update?
[01:54] <e_t_> No. the command "add-apt-repository" tells your computer to look in a new place for software. The command "apt-get" is what you use to install, update, or remove software.
[01:55] <Ratchetman> Got it! Gotta note that somewhere.
[01:56] <Axlin> "and apt-get update" refreshes your repositories, and "apt-get upgrade" applies any available updates
[01:56] <e_t_> You can look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list to see all the places apt-get normally checks for software updates. Any files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory will also be checked. Sources.list.d is where add-apt-repository things go.
[01:58] <Ratchetman> Is that the konsole equivalent to "Get and Remove Software" then?
[01:58] <e_t_> Yes.
[01:59] <Ratchetman> Oooooooh.
[02:02] <icalle_13> one question
[02:02] <icalle_13> is there a way i could put the lenux on a cd and install it on the computer?
[02:06] <Ratchetman> Yes you can download the OS from Kubuntu.org
[02:06] <icalle_13> onto cd?
[02:07] <Ratchetman> Then just burn the ISO to a cd
[02:07] <icalle_13> ohh ok
[02:07] <icalle_13> how big is it?
[02:08] <Axlin> roughly 680MB i believe
[02:08] <Ratchetman> 700 MB roughly. Just small enough to fit on your average cd
[02:09] <Ratchetman> Make sure you back up any of your important files before you go off formatting your hard drive.
[02:09] <icalle_13> if my old computer wifi was messed up since i did a recovery on it owuld it fix it?
[02:10] <icalle_13> or i would still need to find the harddrive for the wifi?
[02:11] <arrrghhh> hey all, i installed 4.6.x like an idiot.  this PC originally had gnome/ubuntu-desktop to start with, can i revert everything back to that and reinstall kubuntu-desktop stable?
[02:12] <Axlin> arrrghhh: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[02:13] <arrrghhh> i've tried that one before, didn't work flawlessly...
[02:13] <arrrghhh> i'll try it again
[02:14] <Ratchetman> icalle_13: There's a good chance that the wireless card is supported by Kubuntu so connectivity shouldn't be a problem.  As to fixing a wireless network I wouldn't know.
[02:14] <arrrghhh> Axlin, gives me a broken packages error :/
[02:15] <icalle_13> ubuntu is lenux right?
[02:16] <arrrghhh> ubuntu uses the linux kernel icalle_13
[02:16] <Mase_wk> lenux ? It is uses a Linux kernel yes.
[02:17] <arrrghhh> Axlin, http://pastebin.com/GmSM20ah
[02:17] <arrrghhh> the unmet dependencies i think are tripping it up...
[02:17] <arrrghhh> i don't think the list of not installed packages would... would it?
[02:18] <arrrghhh> gah i feel like such a noob.  i never learn my lesson, always playing with unstable stuff :P
[02:20] <icalle_13> what it means the installation size?
[02:20] <arrrghhh> icalle_13, the size of the installation...?
[02:21] <arrrghhh> how much disk space you need?
[02:21] <icalle_13> idk
[02:21] <icalle_13> does it matter which one i put?
[02:21] <arrrghhh> uhm... yes
[02:22] <arrrghhh> it determines how much space it takes on the disk
[02:22] <arrrghhh> i assume you're partitioning the drive?
[02:22] <icalle_13> ya
[02:22] <icalle_13> i got about 400gb of mem
[02:22] <arrrghhh> ok
[02:22] <arrrghhh> do you want ubuntu to use the full drive?
[02:22] <icalle_13> sure
[02:22] <arrrghhh> Axlin, ping... can you help me with that broken packages error?
[02:23] <arrrghhh> icalle_13, then have the installer do that
[02:23] <icalle_13> put it all the way to 30gb?
[02:23] <arrrghhh> icalle_13, it's up to you
[02:23] <jvasquez> Hello all
[02:24] <arrrghhh> how much space do you want ubuntu to take up on the hard drive?  do you want another OS installed at all?
[02:24] <Axlin> arrrghhh: sorry, i'm off doing other things as well. you can try: $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f
[02:24] <icalle_13> i want to while i have windows also
[02:24] <Axlin> arrrghhh: -f = --fix. attempts to fix broken packages
[02:24] <arrrghhh> ok
[02:24] <Axlin> and then re-try
[02:25] <icalle_13> just double checking i could bounce from ubuntu to windows right?
[02:25] <jay83> If I have dual monitor from PCI Express x16, can I use a PCI video card for a 3rd monitor?
[02:25] <arrrghhh> icalle_13, you have to reboot to do that, unless you have a powerful enough machine to run a virtual machine
[02:26] <icalle_13> hmm
[02:26] <arrrghhh> Axlin, apt-get update -f?
[02:26] <arrrghhh> apt-get -f doesn't work...
[02:27] <Axlin> apt-get install -f
[02:27] <arrrghhh> d'oh, thx
[02:28] <arrrghhh> hrm... didn't find anything wrong.  just told me some things can be removed with autoremove, which i just did.
[02:28] <Axlin> it didn't spit out any errors that time then?
[02:29] <arrrghhh> nope.  gonna update and try to remove after the update.
[02:29] <arrrghhh> update && upgrade
[02:30] <arrrghhh> damn... still broken packages.
[02:32] <Axlin> arrrghhh: have you disabled the kubuntu backports repository?
[02:32] <arrrghhh> ah... i bet not.
[02:34] <Axlin> you can remove it in synaptic from settings → repositories → other software. or it will be listed in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[02:34] <Axlin> if you still have it, you can remove it either way. and then run an apt-get update
[02:35] <jay83> Does anyone here have 2 video cards on a desktop without SLI support?
[02:39] <cato37> i upgraded to kde 4.6. where did they put the search function on dolphin?
[02:41] <arrrghhh> damn
[02:41] <arrrghhh> still failing Axlin... same error.  i removed some java repo i had in there as well
[02:42] <arrrghhh> cato37, you don't have a search button?
[02:42] <arrrghhh> sorry "find"
[02:42] <cato37> arrrghhh: no. it used to be in <tools>. i thought maybe the moved it for 4.6
[02:42] <Ratchetman> cato37: Which user are you on?
[02:42] <Axlin> arrrghhh: try cleaning any partial packages and the apt cache. sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean
[02:43] <cato37> Ratchetman: i am on the 2nd user.
[02:44] <arrrghhh> cato37, i have a find button, and a find option under the edit menu...
[02:45] <Ratchetman> cato37: I think you can temporarily change to superuser in terminal. " sudo -i -u <username>" I think that's how you can log into your main for a task or something.
[02:45] <cato37> arrrghhh: right. not find, but the dolphin > tools > search function that lets me search the files.
[02:46] <arrrghhh> oh... that's all i have too.
[02:46] <Ratchetman> cato37: Find File is in the tools tab
[02:46] <Ratchetman> hit ctrl+F
[02:48] <cato37> Ratchetman: not find. the search command that was in the tools tab.
[02:48] <arrrghhh> Axlin, it seemed to do something on the first run, removed a bunch of stuff... but same error when i try to do that beast remove command
[02:49] <Ratchetman> cato37: Ok so they're not the same I gather.
[02:49] <cato37> search was a a box that allows you to configure search parameters for different files, types, etc.
[02:49] <Axlin> arrrghhh: does it show anything if you go into synaptic → custom filters → broken?
[02:49] <Axlin> may have to reload synaptic
[02:49] <arrrghhh> let me see...
[02:50] <arrrghhh> 0 broken :/
[02:50] <Ratchetman> kubuntu (~kubuntu@190.48.177.233) has joined #kubuntu Kubuntu himself is now here!
[02:52] <e_t_> Ratchetman: you scared him away.
[02:52] <Ratchetman> Aww it would appear as though I have.
[02:53] <arrrghhh> Axlin, so 0 broken.  what next?
[02:53] <Ratchetman> Shoulda logged on as invisible if he didn't want to be bothered.
[02:53] <Axlin> arrrghhh: apart from going through each package that it's spitting out errors for and finding the bad apple... i'm about out of ideas here
[02:53] <Axlin> it could be a different conflicting repository, if you have any
[02:53] <arrrghhh> Axlin, yea that's why i wasn't a fan of that command... there's no other way?
[02:54] <arrrghhh> i removed all the 3rd party ones, just ubuntu core stuff now AFAIK
[02:54] <Axlin> well we've tried fixing broken packages, cleaning apt's cache, removing partial apps, and removing kubuntu's backports repository... not sure what else, honestly
[02:55] <cato37> ic what they did. they merged the find and the search functions. they got rid of the search box, and made it like xp. :(
[02:56] <cato37> i wonder if there is a way to access it?
[02:57] <arrrghhh> does it work like the old search?  i don't see the problem
[02:57] <arrrghhh> if they merged it... and you haven't lost functionality... no?
[02:58] <cato37> no, it works like the xp search function. the old search box was more like the old norton commander or the amiga toolbox search panel
[02:59] <cato37> not few configuration options. i am going thru an old crashed hd trying to sort 180 gigs of files. the find functions isnt going to do it.
[03:00] <cato37> maybe i am missing something. i will go to the kde room, and see if they might have tucked the functions away somewhere i havent found.
[03:08] <shane4ubuntu> ok, can someone explain this?  locate *.iso turns up 1 file, while find . -size +2G turns up 8 different .iso files with small letters???
[03:08] <Ratchetman> Well my day of Kubuntu experimentation has come to a close. See you guys later.
[03:10] <shane4ubuntu> ahhh, locate .iso turns up a bunch, odd though, I still don't quite understand it.
[03:11] <e_t_> shane4ubuntu: the locate command works off a database that has to be updated. If you run the command "sudo updatedb", then "locate *.iso" you will probably see the files.
[03:12] <shane4ubuntu> e_t_: well, I had already run the updatedb command as root, because I have done that before.
[03:12] <shane4ubuntu> locate *.iso turns up one file while locate .iso turns up more than 10 different .iso files?
[03:12] <e_t_> I didn't know that's how locate worked until I used it on FreeBSD.
[03:13] <shane4ubuntu> I thought perhaps spaces, but most of my files don't contain spaces
[03:13] <shane4ubuntu> e_t_: I'm fond of the locate command, so I learned real quick to run updatedb often, I usually put it as a root crontab
[03:13] <shane4ubuntu> I'm learning to really like the find command too.
[03:14] <e_t_> I like locate too, but it's one you can use for a long time without knowing how it works.
[03:14] <shane4ubuntu> very true, I'm quite perplexed by this rare output though, very odd.
[03:16] <e_t_> I usually search for things in the GUI, using programs like Recoll or Nepomuk/Strigi.
[03:17] <shane4ubuntu> e_t_: I love cli, and do most of my heavy lifting there, though I do appreciate a nice gui.
[03:18] <shane4ubuntu> besides nepomuk/strigi have been broke for me since switching over to kde. :(,  even with a fresh install, they have issues.
[03:19] <e_t_> Really? They've been great for me ever since the switch to the virtuoso database in 4.4.
[03:20] <shane4ubuntu> when I first installed, it crashed indexing all the time, never did finish, upgrade to 4.x and then it completely hogged the system, until I killed it, now I'm up to 4.6 and haven't messed with it, just expect it not to work
[03:22] <James147> shane4ubuntu: its been working for me since 4.5 ^^
[03:23] <melodie_> So...ummm... Can anyone help me on how to get minecraft to work
[03:23] <James147> and have never had an issue with it since then... dont even notice it anymore
[03:23] <shane4ubuntu> James147: i should try and turn mine back on, just haven't messed with it.
[03:23] <James147> melodie_: install openjdk run it ^^
[03:24] <shane4ubuntu> James147: are you on 4.6?
[03:24] <melodie_> I did O.O... my broser is firefox and it won't load either one...I get either a lzma data error  or the screen in just black
[03:24] <shane4ubuntu> James147: also did you do anything to the settings to make it run better? more efficient?
[03:24] <James147> melodie_: minecraft is a java application so prity much just works ^^ though you will need the java and the Minecraft.jar file from the site
[03:24] <James147> !java
[03:25] <James147> melodie_: download the jar ^^ rather then using a browser
[03:25] <melodie_> oh... *Facepalm* i didn't do that
[03:25] <lovesthethianood> my menu bar/desktop dissapeered after a reboot. how can i get it back?
[03:26] <James147> lovesthethianood: the panel? right click the desktop > add panel
[03:26] <James147> (once widegts are unlocked
[03:26] <lovesthethianood>  right clicking on nmy desktop dose not show any menu anymore
[03:26] <lovesthethianood> /James147 right clicking on nmy desktop dose not show any menu anymore
[03:27] <James147> lovesthethianood: does the backgound not load as well?
[03:27] <shane4ubuntu> James147: how much memory do you have nepomuk set to use?  what is a good amount?  I think I changed mine in the System Settings -> Desktop Search thing, under the advanced tab.
[03:27] <James147> shane4ubuntu: think i am useing the default (50 if i remember correctly)
[03:28] <shane4ubuntu> ok, thanks!  Mine was set at 100, perhaps that is the default?  I bumped mine up a little, because I'm off to be, I will drop it back down later if it causes an issue.
[03:28] <shane4ubuntu> bed
[03:29] <James147> shane4ubuntu: (and yes, i am on 4.6 now)
[03:29] <shane4ubuntu> ok, night and thanks.
[03:29] <James147> night
[03:34] <melodie_> James147: How do I download the jar file >.< its so confusing...
[03:34] <bigbrovar2> anyone knows when kubuntu 11.04 beta would be released?
[03:35] <James147> melodie_: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar?v=1301625329683
[03:35] <James147> ^^ click that
[03:36] <melodie_> bigbrovar2: April something i think...no wait... let me look it up
[03:37] <shellthor> bigbrovar2: the beta has been out for a while now
[03:37] <James147> bigbrovar2: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyReleaseSchedule
[03:38] <bigbrovar2> oh ok would have checkout kubuntu.org then for release nit and stuff
[03:38] <melodie_> James147: Did that...the problem is actually installing it :(
[03:38] <James147> melodie_: you dont install it ^^ jsut run it (in terminal type "java -jar path/to/Minecraft.jar"
[03:39] <James147> melodie_: you should also be able to make it executable and just click it ^^
[03:39] <James147> as well ^^
[03:39] <melodie_> Unable to access jarfile path/to/Minecraft.jar
[03:40] <James147> or maby not :p
[03:40] <James147> melodie_: ^^ replace path/to with the actual path
[03:40] <James147> and make sure you get the case right ^^ i think the newer launcher uses lowercase m
[03:44] <melodie_> James147: Fml...ugh nothing is working :(
[03:45] <melodie_> melodie@krusty% java -jar path/to/Minecraft.jar                               ~
[03:45] <melodie_> Unable to access jarfile path/to/Minecraft.jar
[03:45] <melodie_> (1)melodie@krusty% java -jar path/Minecraft.jar                               ~
[03:45] <melodie_> zsh: no matches found: path/to/Minecraft(2).jar
[03:45] <melodie_> (1)melodie@krusty% java -jar path/to/minecraft.jar                            ~
[03:45] <FloodBotK2> melodie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <melodie_> Unable to access jarfile path/to/minecraft.jar
[03:45] <James147> melodie_: path/to/minecraft.jar is a sudo path ^^ (not real) replace it with the actual location ^^
[03:46] <James147> melodie_: try ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar ^^ though i dont actually know where you downloaded it to
[03:46] <arrrghhh> !pastebin | melodie_ use pastebin for multi-line pastes
[03:47] <melodie_> James147: my home folder...
[03:50] <jay83> Does anyone here have 2 video cards on a desktop without SLI support? f I have dual monitor from PCI Express x16, can I use a PCI video card for a 3rd monitor?
[03:53] <cato37> i upgraded to kde 4.6. i dont no the name for it, but when you run the cursor up into the menu kicker real fast and the screen changes to show all open windows. when i do that, the computer freezes.
[03:53] <cato37> *i dont know the name for it
[03:54] <James147> cato37: thats the present windows desktop effect
[03:54] <cato37> i like to use it. how do i stop it from seizing up?
[03:55] <cato37> James147: should i report it as a bug?
[04:53] <micahg> how do I revoke certificate permissions in konqueror?
[05:10] <TheBuntu> micahg: maybe this might help....    http://products.secureserver.net/products/faq_secureturbo.htm
[05:10] <micahg> TheBuntu: no, I meant in the browser itself, not the certificate
[05:13] <TheBuntu> let me get konqueror installed and i see if i can figure it out
[05:22] <TheBuntu> micahg: i dont see anything about certificates in konqueror
[05:25] <micahg> TheBuntu: hey, now you see my problem :)
[05:27] <TheBuntu> what do you need to revoke certificate for
[05:27] <micahg> TheBuntu: I'm testing something
[05:28] <TheBuntu> ohh
[06:26] <CartoonCat> gah, it seams like every other boot my hd is swapping from sda to sdb. Any idea what in the world causes that and to lock it ?
[06:26] <Daskreech> Right
[06:26] <Daskreech> April 1
[06:27] <Kolia> :)
[06:27]  * Daskreech sighs
[06:27] <Kolia> never try to discuss serious topic on 1st April. It's exhausting.
[06:27] <CartoonCat> uhg
[06:28] <CartoonCat> lets pretend its the 2nd already, this is annoying
[06:28] <Daskreech> Login here and ... wait A Pink Unicorn?
[06:28] <CartoonCat> heh yea the ascii spam was ... phun
[06:28] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: BIOS (should) set boot preferenence
[06:29] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: boot pref is as it always has been, usb stick, cd, hd (gentoo didnt do this, and kub on any of my other laptops doesnt do this)
[06:29] <CartoonCat> and no, nothing is plugged into usb nad no disc is in the drive
[06:29] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: No that's Channel it can be more specific like SATA before PATA or so on
[06:30] <CartoonCat> hmm no such options on this laptop
[06:32] <CartoonCat> %$#, i just noticed, fstab says # / was on /dev/sdb5 during installation
[06:34] <CartoonCat> how do i figure out what UUID goes to the partiton I want?
[06:34] <Daskreech> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html
[06:34] <Daskreech> !uuid
[06:35] <CartoonCat> hmm
[06:35] <CartoonCat> ok, blkid gives a uuid for my 4rth partition, but wow it look /way/ different then the other partitions
[06:36] <CartoonCat> UUID="e0373a99-8cc8-476b-a0ab-7eda185d26da" vs UUID="62D647E6D647B8D5"
[06:36] <rulyone> Hi!
[06:37] <CartoonCat> and, mount -a isnt mounting, mmm
[06:38] <rulyone> Need some help here. I previously installed Fedora, with a /home SEPARATE partition. Now I installed Kubuntu 10.10 replacing fedora, but now I'm not the owner of the /home on my current user
[06:38] <CartoonCat> fstab /is/ the correct place for perm mounts still, yes
[06:38] <rulyone> what can I do :( (sorry to interrupt you CartoonCat)
[06:38] <CartoonCat> rulyone: your user id/group id is now different, chown -R user location
[06:39] <rulyone> to root? or to my user?
[06:39] <rulyone> chown -R user /home?
[06:40] <rulyone> or chown -R root /home
[06:40] <rulyone> ?
[06:40] <rulyone> well, i'll try both
[06:40] <CartoonCat> chown -R username /home/username (or what ever the target home directory is)
[06:40] <rulyone> one should do the job, thx :D
[06:40] <rulyone> tahnks
[06:40] <rulyone> got it
[06:41] <rulyone> well, I had to add the sudo part, thanks a LOT!
[06:42] <CartoonCat> yup
[06:44] <Daskreech> rulyone: chown -R username: <--- note that /home
[06:44] <Daskreech> umm /home/username
[06:44] <Daskreech> put a colon after the username
[06:44] <rulyone> i did this: sudo chown -R rulyone /home/rulyone
[06:45] <rulyone> and it works, is something wrong with that?
[06:45] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: what did I miss with the colon?
[06:45] <cato37> how do i select a file in kde 4 in dolphin
[06:45] <Daskreech> rulyone: no but you can redo it with the colon
[06:45] <rulyone> and whats the difference with the colon? :o
[06:45] <Daskreech> cato37: either click on it or hover over it and a + will appear in the corner. click on the +
[06:46] <Daskreech> it will change to a - which will deselect when you click on it
[06:46] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: and any idea why that UUID is so different? mount doesnt seam to like it
[06:46] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: the colon changes the group to match the username as well. It's a shorthand
[06:46] <cato37> Daskreech: i upgraded to 4.6 and no plus or minuses appear, clicking it opens it, and hovering does nothing.
[06:47] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: ah!
[06:47] <Kolia> buuuug
[06:47] <rulyone> cato37: another option is to disable single clicks: Go to Kickoff Application launcher -> type "mouse", open Mouse (mouse settings) and choose  double click to open files.
[06:48] <cato37> i dont want to open it, i want to select it so it can be archived with ark.
[06:48] <Daskreech> cato37: I was about to ask if you have things set to single or double click
[06:48] <Daskreech> cato37: if you just want to do something quickly hold ctrl then click on the file
[06:48] <Daskreech> that will select it
[06:48] <Kolia> (still it's not normal not to get the "+")
[06:49] <cato37> k. shift and hover
[06:49] <rulyone> cato37: do what I just told you... if you select the "double click to open files" option, you can select files by SINGLE CLICKS, just like  in gnome (or window$)
[06:49] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: Any number of reasons but does the partition mount cleanly?
[06:49] <Daskreech> cato37: Found a work around?
[06:49] <Daskreech> hi stephdg
[06:49] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: if I type it out /dev/sdb instead, ya
[06:50] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: /dev/sdb what?
[06:50] <CartoonCat> opps, 4
[06:50] <CartoonCat> sdb4
[06:50] <cato37> sorry, when i move the cursor so that "display windows"appears the screen freezes for about 20 seconds. i moved the cursor to the kickoff button too quickly.
[06:50] <stephdg> hi Daskreech
[06:51] <Daskreech> Hello
[06:51] <Daskreech> cato37: ... does that mean you are ok?
[06:51] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: Alright does the UUID match what's in fstab?
[06:51] <CartoonCat> http://pastebin.com/WKHxdU92
[06:52] <cato37> Daskreech: sorry, my screen keeps freezing.
[06:52] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: I got the UUID from the blkid app
[06:52] <Daskreech> cato37: also not normal. Is your HDD ok?
[06:53] <CartoonCat> so /i/ put the uuid in, there was no entry before at all (i ehco'd the original mount line on, and it some times worked, namely when it coems up as sda not sdb)
[06:53] <CartoonCat> and the fstab line now looks like UUID=62D647E6D647B8D5 /mnt/hd         auto            noauto          0 0
[06:53] <cato37> i turned off the desktop effects.
[06:53] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: so the fstab uses the raw device name not the UUID?
[06:53] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: it did, i changed it
[06:54] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: if i set it back to /dev/sdb4, it mounts up fine
[06:54] <Daskreech> ok see how that works out then
[06:54] <cato37> huh. okay. now the plusses and minuses are there.
[06:54] <CartoonCat> well /thats/ the problem! next boot, it likely will be called /dev/sda4 !!!
[06:54] <CartoonCat> the HD /is changing between a and b with each boot/
[06:55] <cato37> Daskreech: the plusses and minuses are now appearing in dolphin. it happened after i turned off the desktop effects. the effect "display windows" was freezing the screen.
[06:56] <Daskreech> cato37: ah ok Disable that effect then :)
[06:58] <CartoonCat> Daskreech: any ideas whats wrong with the uuid? anyway to get some verbosity out of mount
[06:58] <Daskreech> man mount
[06:59] <cato37> Daskreech: sorry i am not more skilled at understanding this. i tend to be slow sometimes. thank you for your help.
[06:59] <CartoonCat> ive done that, tried -v  and i do get /some/ info, but it jsut ends with /nothing mounted/
[06:59] <Daskreech> cato37: You did fine
[06:59] <Daskreech> good job on trying to disable the desktop effects. How did you do that?
[07:00] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: what was the command you tried?
[07:00] <CartoonCat> mount -avv
[07:01] <CartoonCat> i did read it right, -a causes it mount everything in fstab
[07:01] <CartoonCat> ?
[07:02] <cato37> Daskreech: when i first installed kubuntu it was 10.04 and an earlier kde, and the desktop effects didnt work right. they worked fine in kubuntu 10.10 and kde 4.5 so i turned them on.
[07:02] <Daskreech> Right
[07:02] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: try mount -vv /mount/point
[07:04] <CartoonCat> that mounted
[07:04] <CartoonCat> shouldnt -a have caused it to mount too?
[07:07] <Daskreech> CartoonCat: Not sure can't recall trying that with a UUID
[07:07] <Daskreech> in theory I suppose yes it should
[07:07] <CartoonCat> ah well, it should be good on boot now, ty very much
[07:25] <stephan_> Hello?  Anyone here?
[07:25] <Mase_wk> nope
[07:25] <Mase_wk> the massive list of people in the channel is just a figment of your imagination
[07:29] <Daskreech> well that worked  :-p
[08:09] <naftilos76> Hi everyone, can someone please see this paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588136/ ? I get an akonadi dialog everytime my pc starts Kontact - KDE is updated to 4.6.1
[08:27] <Daskreech> naftilos76: Do you have two resources?
[08:28] <naftilos76> two resources? sorry, i don't get it. Can you pls explain?
[08:35] <Daskreech> naftilos76: press alt+F2 and type akonadi  it will get you the akonadi configuration
[08:35] <Daskreech> which has the resources or where it gets information from
[08:35] <Daskreech> See if there are duplicates.
[08:36] <Daskreech> if not ask in #akonadi what the problem could be
[08:37] <naftilos76> ok thanks - let take a closer look
[09:36] <gogo_> hello
[09:37] <gogo_> dimi
[09:37] <dimi_> aloo
[09:37] <dimi_> so praes be gogoooo
[09:37] <gogo_> eve ladam si go :)
[09:37] <gogo_> ti
[09:38] <dimi_> ja si go drzam
[09:39] <gogo_> abe so stega vaj andon?
[10:15] <inj3ct0r> hi
[10:15] <ikonia> hello
[10:16] <inj3ct0r> i have a q that is what s diffrent betwin kubuntu and ubuntu
[10:16] <DonFranco83> Hello, good morning
[10:18] <ikonia> inj3ct0r: main difference is the desktop, one is kde one is gnome
[10:20] <DonFranco83> Any netbook users here?
[10:21] <Kolia> DonFranco83: yep?
[10:22] <DonFranco83> OK, I got a strange problem
[10:22] <DonFranco83> I'm using an Asus EeePC 1000H
[10:22] <DonFranco83> Everything works just fine when it's on power supply
[10:23] <DonFranco83> But when it's on battery, my WiFi goes crazy and doesn't work anymore
[10:23] <Kolia> each time?
[10:23] <DonFranco83> Each and every time
[10:23] <Kolia> i have an eeepc and didn't notice that behavior
[10:23] <Kolia> that's all I can say :/
[10:23] <DonFranco83> which wifi chip you got?
[10:23] <Kolia> no idea
[10:24] <Kolia> Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[10:25] <DonFranco83> I got a Ralink RT2860
[10:26] <nickmoeck> DonFranco83: is there any output to any log files (syslog or dmesg)?
[10:28] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: I'll give ou a fresh output of syslog and dmesg in a minute
[10:33] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: well it's always the same if you try to show your error to someone. i just unplugged it and there were no messages logged at that time to syslog or dmesg (checked it with tail -f before i unplugged)
[10:34] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: my wifi kinda kept working but kopete lost connection to msn and icq immediately.
[10:34] <DonFranco83> and they won't reconnect until i plug in the cable again. i also use the google translator and ccomics plasmoids and they stop working as well
[10:38] <nickmoeck> DonFranco83: Are you using WPA?
[10:39] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: WPA2 Personal
[10:40] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: but it acutally does'n care, it's the same effect even in an unencrypted network
[10:40] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: as i said, everything works fine as long as it's plugged in to the power supply
[10:40] <nickmoeck> DonFranco83: Oh, okay. I've seen reports of issues with that card with WPA networks, which is why I asked.
[10:43] <nickmoeck> DonFranco83: I did find a similar bug in Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/734865
[10:45] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: unbelievable. that's exactly the error i am encountering
[10:47] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: and i'm using 11.04 as well. but i guess i had the same problem even with 10.10, that's why i reinstalled with 11.04 because the last few kernel versions all promised better wifi support ;-)
[10:49] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: thanks for the link to the bug. i'll wirte a comment on that
[10:49] <nickmoeck> DonFranco83: I suggest clicking that the bug affects you as well in Launchpad, which will subscribe you to the bug, and let them know that it is indeed a bug
[10:50] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: already done :)
[10:52] <nickmoeck> DonFranco83: Also, Anthony Hook is always in #ubuntu-wi-us, so maybe pop in there and talk to him about it. Maybe he found a solution and forgot to close the bug report or something
[10:52] <nickmoeck> Or maybe you two working together can resolve it :)
[10:53] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: thanks for the info.
[10:54] <nickmoeck> DonFranco83: glad I could help (well, sort of help)
[10:54] <inj3ct0r> im sorry where can i install some file libsigc-2.0.so.0 in kubuntu?
[10:55] <inj3ct0r> or find it
[10:56] <DonFranco83> nickmoeck: thanks a lot. i was just about asking on how to file a bug report . so at least, you prevented a duplicate bug report ;) thanks!!
[10:57] <DonFranco83> inj3ct0r: look it up in the package management? what do you need it for?
[11:00] <nickmoeck> inj3ct0r: looks like that file is part of the package libsigc++-2.0-0c2a, so installing that package will install the file you're looking for
[11:01] <inj3ct0r> where is pakage management/
[11:01] <inj3ct0r> ?
[11:02] <inj3ct0r> i search it in pakage kit
[11:03] <inj3ct0r> but there is no any pak where can i install and download it
[11:04] <DonFranco83> search in kpackagekit for libsigc
[11:04] <DonFranco83> it will offer you a couple of install candidates
[11:08] <c2tarun> is there any application available that can convert po files from one language to another?
[11:10] <inj3ct0r> im sorry hoe can i install skype?
[11:11] <DonFranco83> go to skype.com and download the ubuntu version
[11:13] <inj3ct0r> im sorry to every body my kubuntu is have very low speed how can i solve it?
[11:15] <nickmoeck> inj3ct0r: actually, skype should be available in the Canonical Partner Repository
[11:16] <nickmoeck> inj3ct0r: enable the Partner repository, and it should show up in KPackageKit
[11:17] <nickmoeck> inj3ct0r: what do you mean by "very low speed"? Low download speed? Slow to open programs? Slows down when you have multiple programs open?
[11:17] <inj3ct0r> slow to open files
[11:19] <nickmoeck> inj3ct0r: that's generally dependent on the speed of your hard drive.  If you're trying to open a large file that's on a slow hard drive, it can sometimes seem to be slow
[11:22] <c2tarun> I got this error while trying to install an application http://paste.kde.org/8675/ how can I fix this?
[11:22] <Peace-> hi hi  hi
[11:23] <nickmoeck> c2tarun: make sure you use sudo :)
[11:23] <nickmoeck> c2tarun: sudo apt-get install packagename
[11:25] <c2tarun> nickmoeck: I used sudo, actually I started installing a pacakge and end it by pressing ctrl+z. after that I am getting this error.
[11:25] <nickmoeck> c2tarun: Ah. In that case...
[11:25] <nickmoeck> !aptfix | c2tarun
[11:25] <inj3ct0r> im sorry i try to use skype but it say  server cannect failed
[11:25] <inj3ct0r> what i should do now?
[11:39] <mr0wl> Hey everyone, so you guys want invites to diaspora?
[11:52] <abraham_> hola alguien para hablar?
[11:52] <jussi> !es
[11:53] <abraham_> thanks
[11:53] <Peace-> :D
[11:54] <inj3ct0r> im sorry i try to use skype but it say  server cannect failed
[13:30] <soSuckHmu> !find kde
[13:32] <soSuckHmu> !bot
[13:42] <fortunato> !list
[13:56] <inj3ct0r> hi
[13:57] <inj3ct0r> i have a problem with my kubuntu
[13:58] <inj3ct0r> that is when i right click in dekstop chenge dekstop background and ... do not apear insted of that application cat apear what i should do now?
[14:02] <inj3ct0r> no body can help me?
[14:35] <TheBuntu> lastnight i used bootcdwrite.....is there anything eles...like mklivecd....bootcdwrite...did everything...it put a gig usb stick on it..it put everything on my 2 spare partitions
[14:38] <TheBuntu> lastnight i used bootcdwrite.....is there anything eles...like mklivecd....bootcdwrite...did everything...it put a gig usb stick on it..it put everything on my 2 spare partitions
[14:56] <renat> hi guys, can u help me? my wifi adapter has become disabled after the recent update, how to enable it? thx
[14:57] <renat> any help is much appretiated
[15:01] <genii-around> renat: Do you know what make and model the adapter is, and what interface it uses? (pci/usb/bluetooth etc)
[15:02] <renat> well... i use notebook builtin wifi adapter (HP Compaq 530)
[15:02] <renat> i suppose it is an Intel brand
[15:06] <genii-around> renat: What is the result of: lspci -nn | grep Network
[15:06] <renat> 10:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection [8086:4222] (rev 02)
[15:07] <genii-around> renat: Which edition of Kubuntu are you using?
[15:08] <renat> 11.04
[15:09] <genii-around> renat: Please use #ubuntu+1 for Natty, and not here.
[15:09] <renat> ok thx
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:28] <him> hay is there any one
[15:29] <genii-around> I guess they couldn't wait longer than 20 seconds to find out.
[15:30] <kaddi> hi, how do i set up gmail accounts in kopete?
[15:30] <kaddi> !gmail
[15:30] <kaddi> !gtalk
[15:36] <kujules> a process called "yes" uses nearly 50% of my cpu performance, can i "close" that process?
[15:46] <genii-around> kujules: Yup, it's like a no-operation kind of command that just keeps spewing some text
[15:47] <kujules> after upgrading to 11.04 beta my pc often got reset to log in screen or tty-screen
[15:47] <kujules> is the problem solved?
[15:48] <Vardan> as I can see in ubuntu's page in the 11.04 version they will be lots of changes. What about kubuntu? What changes will be in 11.04 version?
[15:49] <kaddi> how do i invite more than one person inot a jabber chat on kopete?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Vardan, best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:49] <Vardan> or kubuntu+1?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> kujules, #ubuntu+1
[15:50] <kujules> i am using kubuntu
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Vardan, there's no kubuntu+1
[15:50] <ZarroBoogs> kujules: Its still #ubuntu+1
[15:50] <kaddi> ubuntu+1 is both for ubuntun, kubuntu and any other version of ubuntu
[15:50] <kujules> okie
[15:50] <kujules> thank you
[16:01] <Vardan> people I just installed kubuntu 10.10 and amarok not playing mp3 files. What packages I need for that?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Vardan, make sure you install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:04] <BluesKaj> !pm | rajeevthefreak_
[16:05] <Vardan> I haven't sent PM, or that is not for me ? :)
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Vardan, not you
[16:06] <Vardan> BluesKaj: how can I know about ubottu's commands?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Vardan, the person's nick  that it's meant for is listed
[16:07] <BluesKaj> !ubottu
[16:24] <BluesKaj> James147, connection probs ?
[16:27] <ChrisGagnon> has anyone else tryed installing the gnome desktop package in kubuntu? It installs debian artwork for grub and the gnome wallpaper
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ChrisGagnon, I did for a while , but if you want the desktop it's ubuntu-desktop that has to be installed
[16:35] <ChrisGagnon> BluesKaj: thanks for the info :D
[16:40] <S74rk7> Anyone know the command to run Dolpin with root privedges?  its just so I can edit configuration files etc
[16:40] <marxjohnson> S74rk7: kdesu dolphin
[16:40] <S74rk7> I have just been using konsole and browsing to the directory and sudo open the files...
[16:40] <S74rk7> marxjohnson: Thanks mate :)
[16:40] <marxjohnson> sorry, kdesudo, not kdesu
[16:41] <James147> S74rk7: its best to just run kate with kdesudo and open them from there
[16:41] <James147> S74rk7: ^^ its better practus to run as few applications as possible without root
[16:44] <_s0phia> hi,  can someone tell me why Rosegarden (music production software) doesn't  output any sound? Do i need MIDI packages or some sort of MIDI software as well? >.<
[16:44] <S74rk7> James147: Yeah good point mate - thanks :)
[16:44] <S74rk7> marxjohnson: Thanks again for the info mate :)
[16:44] <marxjohnson> S74rk7: np
[16:58] <Brad777>  I'm trying to repair an NTFS file system and have received errors from fsck and gparted which I've pasted here: http://pastebin.com/cSybipCJ It is a friend's HDD which had Windows XP on the partition. Windows xp was unable to recover the filesystem using chkdsk and I thought that maybe fsck would be able to recover it.
[17:03] <Brad777> I apologize apparently fsck doesn't support checking NTFS filesystems like I thought.
[18:01] <pero-p> Hi everybody
[18:01] <pero-p> I need some help
[18:02] <pero-p> plz
[18:02] <pero-p> anyone!
[18:02] <pero-p> .........
[18:02] <James147> !help | pero-p
[18:04] <Hamra> doesn't seem like he has a problem anymore :P
[18:06] <pero-p> ok, i have slow and limited internet connection and i want to download Kubuntu, for about one year ago, i downloaded Kubuntu CD version and install it, and it was good. but when i was going to install applications, it just tell me a lot of MBs to download and i can't do it because of the limitation of bandwidth. my only problem is which one is better for me, the DVD version or CD version?...
[18:06] <pero-p> ...does DVD version has most commonly apps?
[18:06] <pero-p> * sorry for my english if it has any mistakes ;)
[18:08] <Hamra> the DVD contains all packages of the "main" repository
[18:08] <Hamra> but not those in universe
[18:08] <Hamra> so the answer varies wildly depending on what exactly you need
[18:09] <James147> pero-p: DVD can be used to install other applcation as far as I know and contains most of whats in the repo ^^ though you will be downloading everything thats on the dvd rather then just what you need... its more useful when you download it from a fast connection to use on a slow connection
[18:10] <James147> pero-p: downloading on a slow to use use on a slow connection seems mighty wasteful ^^
[18:10] <Hamra> yes, and the DVD itself can be used as a repository on any system
[18:11] <James147> ^^ or another use is to download it once, then use it on many computers...
[18:11] <Hamra> but... that's a lot of download :S
[18:11] <pero-p> so many thanks for your answers,
[18:11] <pero-p> my limitation disables in nights ( 2AM to 7PM )
[18:12] <pero-p> oh! i mean 7AM
[18:12] <pero-p> and i can download DVD on that way, THANK YOU AL
[18:12] <pero-p> L
[18:12] <Hamra> i happen to share pero's problem... the only thing that makes it bearable is i dont have any download limits (not that i can cross any with such connection), i just bite it, and let updates go all night long
[18:12] <James147> pero-p: the dvd also wont give you th most uptodate packages
[18:13] <pero-p> and another thing,
[18:14] <pero-p> can Kubuntu(or any other Linux distro) replaces with Windows? i mean games, apps, ... I currently using windows
[18:14] <pero-p> ?
[18:14] <Hamra> nope
[18:14] <Hamra> windows programs work only on windows. linux programs work only on linux
[18:15] <Hamra> though everything on windows, can have replacements on linux
[18:15] <Hamra> and as for games... you can always use "wine" for
[18:15] <Hamra> !wine
[18:17] <Hamra> is there any particular program you're interested in?
[18:18] <pero-p> yes, i use Protesu, and OrCAD
[18:18] <pero-p> Proteus
[18:20] <pero-p> i think VirtualBox will help me in these apps
[18:20] <Hamra> yes, it does
[18:20] <pero-p> but most problem was the Games! :D, and wineHQ comes!
[18:21] <Hamra> though i'm googling for you a little :)
[18:21] <pero-p> Thanks Hamra,
[18:21] <pero-p> you know, in my country you don't pay for apps! so Windows is as FREE as linux
[18:21] <pero-p> !!
[18:22] <pero-p> and so on, for games,
[18:22] <Hamra> these are electronics programs... i never used them personally, or know how advanced they are. KDE has an electronics program, called KTechLab, but i dont know how professional it is
[18:22] <Hamra> well... that's not something you're allowed to say here
[18:23] <Tm_T> ?
[18:23] <pero-p> sorry
[18:23] <Tm_T> !piracy | pero-p
[18:23] <Tm_T> as a reminder (:
[18:24] <Hamra> check this: http://www.gpleda.org/index.html
[18:25] <pero-p> haha! Hamra, Thanks you very very ... much! this KTechLab and gEDA makes me crazy! very good!
[18:25] <Hamra> you're welcome :)
[18:26] <Hamra> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/proteus-under-linux-677635/
[18:26] <Hamra> now you have enough options to choose from :)
[18:28] <pero-p> Thanks everyone, and specially you, Hamra,
[18:28] <pero-p> and Good bye ;)
[18:28] <Hamra> bye bye
[19:00] <_s0phia> is anyone interested in helping me with Rosegarden? D:
[19:01] <James147> help how?
[19:02] <genii-around> James147: If memory serves, she can't hear any midi files
[19:29] <_s0phia> yeah o.O
[19:57] <marius_> mariusk
[20:31] <inj3ct0r> hi to all
[20:32] <inj3ct0r> i have a problem with my kubuntu 10.10 that is when i make my dekstop rezoluion then when i restart changes not down
[20:35] <inj3ct0r> no body want to answer?
[20:35] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: Are you using xrandr commands to do this?
[20:35] <inj3ct0r> no
[20:36] <inj3ct0r> sceen resize and rotate
[20:37] <genii-around> If you put the xrandr commands needed into /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession then it will be permanent
[20:38] <inj3ct0r> but i am a begginer could do you tell me step by step?
[20:38] <Hamra> genii-around: or store the info in Xorg.conf
[20:38] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: What screen settings are you putting that you would like to keep?  eg: 1920x1080 60hz refresh
[20:39] <inj3ct0r> 1024*768 75hz ref
[20:40] <genii-around> Hamra: xorg.conf gets overwritten fairly often, by setting up nvidia for instance
[20:41] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: Can you please use pastebin to show the current results of the command: xrandr        from konsole
[20:41] <genii-around> !pastebin
[20:41] <genii-around> work, back in 3-4 mins
[20:43] <inj3ct0r> 1024x768       85.0*    75.1
[20:47] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: I need the part which says something like VGA-1
[20:48] <inj3ct0r> VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 310mm x
[20:49] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: OK, 1 minute
[20:50] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: Now I need result of:  cvt 1024 768 85
[20:51] <inj3ct0r> # 1024x768 84.89 Hz (CVT 0.79M3) hsync: 68.68 kHz; pclk: 94.50 MHz
[20:51] <inj3ct0r> Modeline "1024x768_85.00"   94.50  1024 1096 1200 1376  768 771 775 809 -hsync +vsync
[20:55] <inj3ct0r> continue plz
[20:56] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: I'm at work and just got back to keyboard :) 1 moment
[20:58] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588375/  now contains the lines you need to add to either /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession
[21:00] <genii-around> Or to make an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file instead with the cvt output inbetween a line saying: Section "Screen"       and another line saying: EndSection
[21:03] <inj3ct0r> tnx
[21:08] <genii-around> inj3ct0r: You're welcome. Also, be sure to edit or create those files with admin write priveleges. eg: kdesudo kate /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession      or so
[21:16] <silviu> hello
[21:16] <silviu> do you know how can I find a directory in my system?
[21:21] <genii-around> silviu: In Dolphin, choose Edit, then Find      and then type in the name of what you are looking for
[21:22] <silviu> thank you
[21:22] <BluesKaj> my den linuxbox just will not run on the 2.6.35-28 kernel , obviously the kernel source graphics driver recommended won't run or breaks X , dunno which
[21:22] <genii-around> silviu: You're welcome.
[21:22] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Is that the latest maverick kernel?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> I can run the 2.6.35-22 just fine ...yes the 28 is latest afaik , just did a clean install and updated
[21:25] <BluesKaj> the default is the 22 , genii-around , then updating brings the 28 in and installs it as the default
[21:25] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Did you have nvidia-current installed before update?
[21:25] <BluesKaj> I've been trying to find a workaround for weeks
[21:26] <BluesKaj> yes, that was the first HW driver I installed
[21:27] <BluesKaj> genii-around, are you suggesting there's an upgraded kernel source version ?
[21:28] <Hamra> maybe DKMS didnt build a module for some reason?
[21:29] <genii-around> BluesKaj: It doesn't rebuild the kernel driver for nvidia when up kernel. If you can get command-line on the 35-28, remove nvidia-current, will default to nouveau. Then you should be able to get into kde and run kockey-kde and select the proprietary driver
[21:29] <genii-around> Hamra: Yes, I had this before a few times
[21:29] <Hamra> s/kockey-kde/jockey-kde
[21:30] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Also if you have an xorg.conf remove nvidia reference
[21:30] <genii-around> Hamra: Yes, my bad :)
[21:31] <Hamra> genii, i havent used nvidia-current for a while, wouldnt removing then reinstalling nvidia-current from TTY1 rebuild the kernel module?
[21:31] <BluesKaj> well genii-around , Hamra i didn't run nvidi-xconfig , so doubt ther eis one , but I'll check
[21:32] <BluesKaj> ok, going over to the other box ..I'll have to reinstall the 28 kernel tho
[21:32] <genii-around> Hamra: No. For some reason, don't know why, doesn't work.
[21:33] <BluesKaj> ok , good to know that , cuz i was gonna try that :)
[21:48] <littlegirl> Hey there, is there a special channel for Kubuntu development?
[21:48] <littlegirl> I should be a bit more specific - is there a special channel for Kate development?
[21:49] <silviu> isn't it a #kate channel on freenode?
[21:49] <littlegirl> Checking, thanks. (:
[21:49] <littlegirl> Yep, looks good!
[21:55] <littlegirl> Heh, are the developers ever active in the #kate channel?
[21:56] <genii-around> littlegirl: There is a #kubuntu-devel , but I'm not sure how directly involved they are with Kate. This might be more upstream with KDE
[21:57] <littlegirl> genii-around: Thanks!
[21:58] <genii-around> littlegirl: np
[22:05] <rx_> is there a frontend to google reader^
[22:09] <gomiboy> rx_: i use a so called web-app with chromium (the open source brother of chrome). Basically a browser window with nothing else than the web page inside (no browser buttons, menus etc)
[22:10] <rx_> gomiboy: ah ok i was looking for something tighly integrated to the desktop
[22:10] <rx_> with notifications etc
[22:11] <gomiboy> rx_:  there is akregator for that, but it's not a "google reader frontend", it's just a rss reader :P
[22:13] <rx_> gomiboy: yeah i know but using rss without full history is not an option for me ;-)
[22:19] <kujules> !firefox
[22:28] <yoyo> !firefox4
[22:35] <inj3ct0r> hi to all
[22:35] <inj3ct0r> i have problem i installed some game
[22:35]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[22:36] <inj3ct0r> and now i unistall it there is some game gain in game panel how can i solve it
[22:36] <inj3ct0r> ?
[22:37] <Hamra> game gain in game panel? can you say it in another way?
[22:47] <genii-around> Hamra: Yes, that was very cryptic
[22:48] <Hamra> unfortunately, he's gone... i'm still scratching my head over it :P
[22:48] <juan_> hello, i can't view my kubuntu pc in land with windows pc
[22:49] <ChrisGagnon> juan_: what do you mean in land?
[22:49] <genii-around> juan_: You mean from Windows' Network Neighbourhood you do not see your Kubuntu computer?
[22:50] <juan_> network!
[22:50] <juan_> no i don't see
[22:50] <ChrisGagnon> juan_: did you install samba and enable file sharing on kubuntu?
[22:51] <juan_> i have samba, how can i enable file sharing?
[22:51] <genii-around> !info kdenetwork-filesharing
[22:52] <genii-around> juan_: You have to install the package above called kdenetwork-filesharing and then it lets you configure the samba shares
[22:53] <juan_> ok
[22:55] <juan_> ok, it's installed!
[22:56] <Hamra> it should appear in system settings now, under sharing i'm not mistaken
[22:56] <genii-around> juan_: So now if you go to system settings, you should see under Network and Connectivity a thing called Sharing
[22:56] <genii-around> Hamra: Yes :)
[22:57] <Hamra> it's funny, i asked this very same question in the mailing list a year or 2 ago... now i forgot the answer, and i dont even have or use samba anymore :P
[22:57] <juan_> windows sharing?
[22:59] <juan_> well, i can see now "sharing" in file's properties
[23:00] <Hamra> did you try system settings first? it should have an extensive control panel for configuring shares
[23:02] <juan_> yes i see "sharing"  and when i open that apear "windows sharing" dialog
[23:02] <juan_> need username and password
[23:04] <juan_> that is all?
[23:08] <juan_> i can't see the windows pc from kubuntu
[23:09] <juan_> and windows cant see my kubuntu pc
[23:09] <Hamra> what is the name of the windows PC?
[23:09] <juan_> logistica
[23:09] <juan_> when i make ping logisitca, work!
[23:10] <Hamra> try in dolphin, putting in address bar:
[23:10] <Hamra> smb://logistica
[23:11] <juan_> can't connect to server smb:/logistica/
[23:11] <Hamra> are you sure windows has active shares, and has proper home network configuration?
[23:12] <juan_> 101% sure! i'm in my job
[23:12] <juan_> i cant see windows to windows
[23:13] <Hamra> let's try something else to troubleshoot... do you know the IP of logisitica? if so, try smb://ip_address
[23:14] <juan_> yesterday my laptop was runing with ubuntu the sharing work
[23:14] <juan_> sorry my english ins soo bad!
[23:15] <juan_>   smb://ip_address say time_out
[23:16] <Hamra> did you reaplce your IP in it?
[23:17] <juan_> of course
[23:17] <juan_> 10.0.06
[23:17] <juan_> 10.0.0.6
[23:17] <Hamra> hmm....
[23:17] <Hamra> do you have a firewall in ubuntu?
[23:17] <juan_> deactivated!
[23:17] <Hamra> iptables configured, or something?
[23:17] <Hamra> ok...
[23:18] <juan_> the kubuntu's firewall by default
[23:19] <juan_> i did't was touch iptables config
[23:20] <Hamra> let's think....
[23:21] <juan_> i was install the gui to samba
[23:21] <Hamra> it's weird... i never needed any configuration to see windows shares... Live CDs were able to see them :S
[23:22] <juan_> but then i remove it
[23:22] <juan_> can i remove samba complete and then reinstall then?
[23:24] <Hamra> you can try... doubt it'll change much though
[23:25] <juan_> how can do that?
[23:25] <Hamra> the samba packages are to let kubuntu have shares... but it doesnt need much to see windows shares... i dont know why this is happening
[23:25] <juan_> remove samba an all configuration
[23:29] <juan_> ill reboot and try........... ill be back
[23:48] <juan_> hello hamra
[23:48] <Hamra> hi
[23:48] <juan_> i fixed the problem
[23:50] <juan_> now i can see windows pc from ubuntu, the problem was the firewall, i remove it and samba, now i'll install samba again
[23:50] <juan_> but now i can see the windows pcs
[23:50] <juan_> is safely remove the firewall ufw?
[23:51] <Hamra> really depends on your situation... i dont have any firewall here, but i'm behind a router
[23:53] <Axlin> why not just disable it? sudo ufw disable
[23:53] <juan_> me too, in my office are about 10 pcs all with windows, my laptops have kubuntu i have mysql and use it like server to practice
[23:54] <juan_> Axlin, i try that but don't works
[23:54] <Axlin> does it say it's inactive when you run sudo ufw status?
[23:54] <juan_> yes
[23:55] <Axlin> odd
[23:55] <juan_> i need reboot before that?
[23:56] <juan_> well disable = remove i same, just disable is there but dont working!
[23:56] <juan_> is same*
[23:58] <pm2> Hi - I'm having a problem with a program called gmFSK on Kubuntu Lucid - its an older program that needs to access /dev/dsp directly.  This seems to cause a problem with pulseaudio.  Any advice on how to make it work?  I've tried padsp and pasuspender, but still can't get it to work.\