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_mup_ensemble/formula-upgrades-spec r183 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com20:57
_mup_address review comments, add note regarding unit state carrying references to the current deployed formula.20:57
_mup_ensemble/formula-upgrades-spec r184 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com21:04
_mup_address bcsaller's review comments, additional formula spec link and remove extraneous relation-list reference21:04
bcsallerthanks21:04
_mup_ensemble/optional-hooks r183 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com21:20
_mup_allow for hooks to be specified optionally.21:20
hazmatbcsaller, np.. sorry i've been hit or miss on internet this week, currently working out of a library21:30
hazmatbcsaller, was there anything you wanted to discuss re standup?21:30
bcsallerouch21:30
hazmatbcsaller, mostly been using my android hotspot functionality for basic access21:30
bcsallerno, I pushed some small branches for review, but don't have final signoff on the sspec21:30
bcsallerstill the work moves forward21:31
hazmatbcsaller, cool, just finished looking over jimbaker's spec, i'll try and get to yours latter today.. i'm feeling a bit behind on the formula upgrade stuff, but hopefully a productive afternoon awaits :-).. 21:31
hazmatokay.. off to lunch.. ttyl21:32
bcsallerenjoy21:32
_mup_ensemble/config-get r184 committed by bcsaller@gmail.com22:38
_mup_Implement config_get for use in hooks22:38
_mup_Test that the communication between the client and server side22:38
_mup_ of the protocol is marshalling data as expected.22:38
hazmatbcsaller, isn't the plural of formula ..  formulas ?23:13
hazmatnot important.. just reading through23:14
bcsallerwhat did I say?23:14
bcsallerformulas or formulae23:15
hazmatformula23:27
hazmatbcsaller, it just says formula23:27
hazmatbut it looks like its contextually trying to refer to a plural23:27
hazmatbcsaller, so there's no typing information in config.yaml?23:48
bcsallergustavo said that was still to be debated, he has some other ideas there but didn't tell me what23:49
bcsallerI think its a game we can't win as the values are more about semantics than type23:49
hazmatwe have two different audiences setting and consuming values, typing would allow for them both to interop on expectations w/ validation23:52
hazmatelse, someone sets a port to an empty string, where the formula expects an integer value.23:52
hazmator additional context information like description on a option, to allow better understanding of what it controls23:53
bcsallerI'm not opposed to more human readable data, I think thats going to be needed. I just don't think there is a ton we can do if someone sets an apache.conf snippet they want injected or something. Saying "string" isn't all that helpful. 23:56
bcsallerIf everyone wants type validation though its fine with me, I just think its of less value23:57
bcsallerwe don't really have a notion of required, and we don't know that name/password both need to be set23:57
bcsallerfor the change to be good23:57
bcsallera human readable desc. would help, but trying to cover those cases, I'm not sure23:58
bcsallerif we can fine a nice 80% rule though23:58
hazmatsounds good,  expanding from a list of names, to a list of dictionary allows typing, description, and sane defaults23:58
hazmatrather than formulas trying to cope with missing values and embedding defaults inline.23:59
bcsallerwell, its still defaults in the formula, config.yaml is part of it23:59
hazmatlooks good though, most of my review comments are on improving readability.. i'm going to switch locations and post23:59

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