| skaet | highvoltage, :) | 00:12 |
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| skaet | slangasek, blog entry done. Seems I don't have permissions for that final step though. | 00:13 |
| slangasek | what's the final step/ | 00:13 |
| slangasek | ? | 00:13 |
| skaet | Post announcement to Launchpad (ubuntu-drivers members have posting rights) | 00:13 |
| skaet | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+announce | 00:14 |
| slangasek | seems I don't have access anymore either | 00:14 |
| slangasek | I think you need someone on the TB then | 00:14 |
| * skaet nods | 00:15 | |
| skaet | yeah, we need to change that comment as well then. | 00:16 |
| skaet | cjwatson, pitti ^^ | 00:21 |
| skaet | slangasek, cjwatson, pitti - kees helped out, step 5 done. | 00:46 |
| skaet | And with that - I call it a day. | 00:46 |
| slangasek | ok, great :) | 00:46 |
| slangasek | congrats on the beta! | 00:46 |
| skaet | thank you all, for getting the beta out! awesome teamwork. :) | 00:47 |
| slangasek | oh geez | 01:00 |
| slangasek | Build status | 01:00 |
| slangasek | [NEEDSBUILD] Needs building | 01:00 |
| slangasek | Start 2011-04-03 | 01:00 |
| slangasek | wtf, ppc | 01:00 |
| kirkland | could I get permission to upload this to natty? http://paste.ubuntu.com/588060/ | 01:10 |
| kirkland | i have a couple of other fixes coming for cobbler, but this one in particular is making iterative development difficult | 01:11 |
| * kirkland uploads, as I know you'll reject if there's a problem | 01:11 | |
| kirkland | Okay, just uploaded cobbler part 2 of obvious fixes | 01:19 |
| * micahg thought the archive was open again | 01:19 | |
| kirkland | i have some more functional ones coming tomorrow | 01:19 |
| kirkland | for now, I'm worn out | 01:19 |
| pitti | skaet: congratulations! | 07:25 |
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| cjwatson | skaet: do we have to have the release meeting today? dunno about you but I'm knackered. :-) | 12:48 |
| cjwatson | (I notice you haven't sent out the agenda yet, so was wondering if you were contemplating cancelling) | 12:48 |
| Daviey | fwiw, our team has nothing new/scary to report. | 13:11 |
| pitti | cjwatson, skaet: FYI, cd image cronjobs turned back on | 13:35 |
| pitti | nothing major from desktop either | 13:36 |
| pitti | except that the latest unity fixed a gazillion crashes, it's actually stable again :) | 13:36 |
| Daviey | pitti, seems 2d unity was fixed aswell! | 13:45 |
| * cjwatson is still deep inside a horrifically complex gdb/qemu session for wubi | 13:46 | |
| cjwatson | 18 breakpoints with a bunch of custom commands ... | 13:46 |
| * ogra_ wouldnt have much to report for armel either ... and wouldnt mind skipping this week | 14:11 | |
| ScottK | cjwatson or pitti (or any other release team member): Please look at the utouch-grail upload that just went up and the commentary in Bug 742582. I think it's completely out of line. | 14:22 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 742582 in utouch-grail (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add touch gesture events (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742582 | 14:22 |
| ScottK | "if anyone has any problems with this change, they need to take it up with Mark Shuttleworth" and then uploads. | 14:23 |
| cjwatson | ScottK: I'm not hugely fond of that comment, but pitti had already approved the FFE (comment #8) | 14:32 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:33 |
| ScottK | I'd missed that. | 14:33 |
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| pitti | not that I'd massively like it either, but there wasn't a lot to decide about this :/ | 14:44 |
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| ScottK | Agreed. | 14:51 |
| ScottK | I think it had to be approved, but the take it up with ... comment is really out of line. | 14:51 |
| ScottK | It was also, as cjwatson thankfully pointed out to me, completely unneeded since you'd already approved it. | 14:52 |
| ScottK | Given that the function was specified and Unity depended on it, they could have even reasonably argued it was a bug fix. | 14:53 |
| skaet | cjwatson, pitti, Daviey - yeah, ran out of energy to get the agenda updated with the latest bugs after finishing the release. I figured a quick round table might be prudent though to make sure we're all set on plans for the next couple of weeks. I want to make sure everyone is aware of the freeze dates we talked about on u-release maillist, for instance. | 15:08 |
| skaet | don't bother preparing reports, just interested if there are any critical issues. | 15:09 |
| skaet | would also like to see what the results are like from the testing and hardware cert teams. | 15:11 |
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| skaet | ScottK, Riddell, ^^ | 15:21 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:22 |
| matttbe | Hello | 16:43 |
| matttbe | I'm part of the Cairo-Dock team and I want to update Cairo-Dock packages on Ubuntu. I've opened two bug reports (cairo-dock and its plug-ins) one month ago (before the FF) with two linked branches: https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/723994 & https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/723995. | 16:43 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 723994 in cairo-dock (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "FFe: Please update Cairo-Dock to 2.3.0~0rc1 version (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Wishlist,New] | 16:43 |
| matttbe | I've contacted a few people on IRC and we said to me last time that I'd to do this request today (due to the beta freeze). | 16:43 |
| matttbe | So... is it possible to help me? | 16:43 |
| matttbe | Ok I'll be back later but I hope somebody may help me! | 16:59 |
| skaet | matttbe, sorry we were in release meeting | 17:12 |
| skaet | pitti, around? | 17:14 |
| pitti | skaet: yes | 17:14 |
| skaet | pitti, any reservations on accepting the new cairo-dock in? | 17:15 |
| * pitti looks | 17:15 | |
| pitti | skaet: if you looked at it, fine for me; it's an universe leaf package | 17:16 |
| skaet | pitti, haven't gone through the code yet, but will do the check then if it has a chance. it seems to have been overlooked, and a probable good thing to have. | 17:18 |
| skaet | micahg, you had some issues on the cairo-dock plug-ins did they get resolved? | 17:19 |
| micahg | skaet: I wanted to look into the option of merging from Debian, but at this point, I would just take what he has if it's upload worthy and merge next cycle | 17:23 |
| skaet | micahg, ok. | 17:23 |
| skaet | thanks | 17:24 |
| Laney | he disagrees with how Debian has done the packaging | 17:24 |
| ScottK | skaet and micahg: We need to be careful not to fork the package from Debian. | 17:27 |
| Laney | why do we have cairo-dock-plugins and cairo-dock-plug-ins? | 17:27 |
| micahg | right, he says it's not in the spirit of upstream, I was going to review that, but he said that we never merged from Debian before | 17:27 |
| Laney | looks like the former has never even built | 17:27 |
| ScottK | One is a transitional package. | 17:27 |
| micahg | Laney: that's another problem | 17:27 |
| ScottK | Or our package naming is different. | 17:27 |
| Laney | we should probably remove & blacklist it until this is sorted out | 17:29 |
| Laney | and encourage him to speak to Debian | 17:29 |
| micahg | yep, we've never merged with Debian before for cairo-dock, so I'd say we can worry about that next cycle, the -plug-ins -plugins issue is another story, we should probably just drop the Debian one for this cycle and get it sorted out early in oneiric | 17:29 |
| micahg | IMHO | 17:30 |
| micahg | Laney: he already has, but maybe we can help facilitate better communication | 17:30 |
| Laney | yeah | 17:30 |
| Laney | do we have a clear description of what the problems are? | 17:30 |
| micahg | skaet: ping | 18:31 |
| skaet | micahg: yup? | 18:32 |
| micahg | skaet: hi, there's a thunderbird update planned for during final freeze (april 19), but that might slip a couple days, wondering if we should try to get it in or stage it in the security PPA | 18:33 |
| * skaet checking some dates ... sec | 18:33 | |
| skaet | micahg, april 19 is way too late for Natty, so it will have to go in after. | 18:35 |
| skaet | is it a security fix? if not, should probably go through the SRU side. | 18:35 |
| cjwatson | -security rather than SRU | 18:35 |
| cjwatson | (SRU => -proposed/-updates) | 18:35 |
| micahg | skaet: ok, we can probably upload it once it hits the beta channel upstream (apr 4), I'm just wondering about any potential respins | 18:35 |
| skaet | :) | 18:35 |
| micahg | probably has security fixes | 18:36 |
| skaet | fair enough then. | 18:37 |
| skaet | 4/11 is when we freeze for beta 2 - so best if its in before then. | 18:37 |
| micahg | skaet: well, I or chrisccoulson can get whatever the current build candidate is by then, I'm wondering what to do though if there's a respin after that point | 18:39 |
| skaet | After that, -security option, if there are true security bug fixes that still need to be applied. -proposed for other bug fixes. ok? | 18:39 |
| skaet | micahg, don't wait until 4/11 please - earlier is better. | 18:40 |
| micahg | skaet: well, here's the real question, do we risk having a non-final build at release if there's a respin | 18:41 |
| micahg | or do we release the security update potentially 9 days late | 18:41 |
| skaet | bug fixes will be reviewed and accepted for beta 2, and up 4/21. | 18:41 |
| skaet | so, 4/19 could conceivably squeak in if the bug fixes are reasonable. But would want it as diffs, rather than full image, so we know what's there. | 18:42 |
| micahg | skaet: ok, anything for the respins would be bug fix | 18:43 |
| skaet | If there wasn't security fixes involved, I'd be tempted to just wait until oneiric. | 18:43 |
| skaet | thanks micahg | 18:43 |
| micahg | skaet: ok, so to summarize so I'm clear, we should get in the candidate build as soon as possible and bug fixes to the candidate build would most likely be ok up until 4/21 | 18:44 |
| skaet | micahg, since we'll be doing the release images build on 4/21, best plan on fixes up to 4/20. | 18:45 |
| * micahg hopes they release on time then | 18:45 | |
| * skaet agrees. | 18:45 | |
| micahg | skaet: I'll actually be off 4/19 and 4/20, but hopefully we'll know the week before | 18:45 |
| cjwatson | I think that may be bug 742967 dead at last | 18:45 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 742967 in grub2 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Natty Wubi grub prompt on install (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742967 | 18:45 |
| cjwatson | ev will need to build a new Wubi binary though | 18:46 |
| cjwatson | (after it's built) | 18:46 |
| skaet | otherwise, its probably going to be get it into the -security queue, and have it ready as a 0-day fix. | 18:46 |
| ev | will do | 18:46 |
| skaet | cjwatson, that's great to hear. :) | 18:46 |
| micahg | skaet: BTW, it's on xubuntu that would be impacted by this if an ISO respin was needed | 18:46 |
| micahg | *only | 18:46 |
| ScottK | skaet: I suspect getting it in between Beta 2 and when we spin the final candidate images would be OK. | 18:46 |
| cjwatson | ev: upgrading to grub-pc 1.99~rc1-8ubuntu1 should be sufficient | 18:47 |
| ScottK | It = Thunderbird. | 18:47 |
| ev | cjwatson: congratulations on hopefully getting to the bottom of it | 18:48 |
| skaet | micahg, Thunderbird does tend to get used by alot of Ubuntu users as well, so not sure its just Xubuntu impact. | 18:48 |
| ev | and noted | 18:48 |
| cjwatson | ev: I did eventually manage to distil a non-Wubi test environment out of it | 18:48 |
| micahg | skaet: right, but I think that's the only ISO impacted | 18:48 |
| skaet | micahg - fair 'nuf. :) | 18:49 |
| ev | cjwatson: in that you were able to reproduce the bug outside of a wubi install, or you crafted something reusable for further testing of grub? | 18:49 |
| cjwatson | if you have a config file on a loopback device that re-loopbacks itself and then calls loadfont on unicode.pf2 (to allocate lots of memory and force the freed memory out), and then a big pile of comments to ensure that you go onto another disk block, then some random echo comments, the echo commands will fail to run correctly | 18:50 |
| micahg | skaet: I'm wrong, the DVD is as well... | 18:50 |
| cjwatson | it's not a reliable test, but it was good enough to check that I'd got it right | 18:50 |
| ev | nice | 18:51 |
| cjwatson | in the Wubi environment, I just forced it to skip over the re-loopback, and confirmed that I got to a GRUB menu that way | 18:51 |
| cjwatson | (forced> using a very carefully-selected breakpoint and 'jump' in gdb) | 18:52 |
| skaet | micahg, ack. 4/20 for fixes in, else plan on zero day updates. | 18:56 |
| dobey | hi all | 18:56 |
| * skaet --> lunch and some errands, back on later. | 18:56 | |
| dobey | i was wondering about the progress on the exception request for bug #733327 | 18:56 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 733327 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[UI FFE] Notify user of missing MP3 support (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733327 | 18:56 |
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