[00:08] <akk> iheartubuntu: No, haven't installed ubuntu in a long time, though I did a debian squeeze install a few weeks ago.
[00:08] <akk> I usually upgrade in place.
[00:40] <nhaines> akgraner: the current Ubuntu installer for natty is pretty.  :)
[02:05] <aaditya> #defocus is a chaos today, thanks to the new policy.
[02:05] <aaditya> http://blog.freenode.net/2011/04/important-service-announcement-regarding-defocus/
[16:11] <m4gnus> good morning folks. anyone _here_ at the moment?
[17:01] <iheartubuntu> I'll be doing an at home Global Jam here in a few min and will install Unity on my comp. Hope the Walnut Creek Jam is a great turnout!
[17:02] <crashsystems> anyone have good April 1st links?
[17:03] <iheartubuntu> youtube is doing an old version of their site. (not much though)
[17:08] <iheartubuntu> someone made a Google Classic postcard... http://goo.gl/rM4df
[17:09] <iheartubuntu> not really april fools, but neat anyhow
[17:10] <iheartubuntu> should print it out and mail it in :)
[17:16] <pleia2> crashsystems: the thinkgeek ones are amusing
[17:16] <crashsystems> Yeah, I saw that one
[17:17] <crashsystems> of course, thinkgeek is _always_ amusing
[17:18] <pleia2> http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/uslocations/mountain-view/autocompleter/index.html was pretty good too
[17:19] <crashsystems> also, http://www.doublerainbowdaddy.com/
[17:19] <pleia2> hah :)
[17:20] <crashsystems> ugh, I want to kick irccloud
[17:21] <pleia2> oh, hah, debian.org
[17:22] <pleia2> I guess a bunch of them did it
[17:43] <crashsystems> http://us.toshiba.com/spectacle
[17:45] <pleia2> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=21-24+Millbank+London+SW1P+4QP++United+Kingdom&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Millbank+Tower,+21-24+Millbank,+London,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.492774,-0.12454&spn=0.005571,0.013937&z=17
[17:55]  * MarkDude is at the Walnut Creek bug jam now
[17:56] <pleia2> how's it going?
[17:56] <pleia2> oh, just starting :)
[17:56]  * MarkDude was here early - trying to get the internets set up- DAMN att
[18:35] <pleia2> MarkDude: make sure someone takes pictures :)
[18:36] <pleia2> we'll get them up on flickr
[18:41] <iheartubuntu> thanks pleia2
[18:42] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: oh yes, tweets handled!
[18:52]  * MarkDude is posting a few pics now pleia2 
[18:55] <pleia2> MarkDude: wanna send some to me for http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca ?
[18:55] <pleia2> doh, I should fix the license on these
[18:57] <pleia2> there
[19:02] <iheartubuntu> was there a plan to get the ubucon videos online? i want to relive the action!
[19:06] <MarkDude> I posted to FB
[19:07] <MarkDude> https://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=124099&id=148361495775
[19:07]  * MarkDude can post later
[19:08] <iheartubuntu> In-N-Out sticker on Jono's computer HAAAAA
[19:08] <pleia2> hahaha, ubuntu coffee cups :)
[19:08] <nhaines> I'm about to upgrade x.org, gdm, unity, software-center, apt-get, and upgrade-manager all at the same time.  What could possibly go wrong?
[19:09] <iheartubuntu> nothing :) worked for me!
[19:10] <iheartubuntu> (although not on this comp)
[19:10] <iheartubuntu> id say thats a huge plus. i remember a few years back some beta updates i did crashed my system.
[19:12] <nhaines> That's a risk at any time in beta.
[19:14] <iheartubuntu> in my case, i have not had that happen for a long time, so +1 for Ubuntu!
[19:15] <akk> Ubuntu really does very well with upgrades.
[19:15] <akk> On another channel someone was getting all excited that SuSE was finally supporting upgrade-in-place
[19:16] <akk> and sheesh, that's been reliable for ubuntu for, what, 5 years?
[19:16] <nhaines> akk: that's what kept me off of Linux (and SuSE 9.2) back in 2003....
[19:16] <akk> I remember it used to be a nightmare in Redhat, everybody always reinstalled instead of upgrading.
[19:16] <nhaines> And it's also what helped me switch in 2006 is that Ubuntu had upgraded just fine for the past year and a half.
[19:16] <pleia2> wow, I had no idea they didn't spport them until now
[19:17] <nhaines> I appreciate that it is not an easy thing to do.  Although it's really fun to see the Ubiquity installer support upgrades now.  :)
[19:17] <akk> Little stuff always breaks in upgrades, but not because of the upgrade, just because of software changes.
[19:18] <akk> But no major things (knock silicon).
[19:34] <nhaines> Grr, now Unity isn't raising windows or assigning focus.
[19:36] <grantbow> pleia2: what's that bug # you were talking about? the unity soft keyboard.
[19:37] <pleia2> grantbow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739812
[19:37] <nhaines> Actually, it's not doing anything right now.  Hmm, maybe I need another reboot.
[19:37] <grantbow> thanks
[19:56] <grantbow> jono: thanks for looking at that bug. I agree with pleia2 there's an issue there.
[19:59] <jono> grantbow, pleia2 I suspect this will be bumped to Ocelot - I agree with Mark that this does not inhibit the Ubuntu experience for a11y reasons, the classic mode still exists, but it will make Unity suck
[19:59] <jono> so we can still deliver an a11y experience via the classic mode, but Unity will be less compatible
[19:59] <jono> the a11y work bore great fruit, they just ran out of time
[19:59] <iheartubuntu> Grooveshark has a 3D website for april 1st... http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/
[20:03] <iheartubuntu> ThinkGeek has some crazy items for sale... http://www.thinkgeek.com/
[20:03] <iheartubuntu> light saber popcicles :)
[20:04] <iheartubuntu> "taste the force"
[20:04] <iheartubuntu> angry birds pork rinds
[20:05] <slick666> lol
[20:05] <slick666> have u seen th bacon soap?
[20:09] <iheartubuntu> youtubes 1911 viral videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNm8ZCJ7Fx8
[20:09] <iheartubuntu> love the cat at the end licking the horn
[20:10] <iheartubuntu> "LinkedIn has an elaborate and fun joke this year. Log into the site, then click on Contacts – Add Connections and choose “People You May Know.” You’ll find out that the list is far more interesting than usual, featuring such celebrities as Robin Hood and Albert Einstein!"
[20:21] <broder> haha. on the subject of 4/1 pranks: http://blog.mezeske.com/?p=377
[20:22] <broder> "cppsh, the bash-like shell specifically designed for those engineers who find themselves most comfortable at the reins of a C++ compiler"
[21:04] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: no countdown banner submission this time?
[21:06] <pleia2> they are still accepting, selecting on monday https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2011-April/001148.html
[21:36] <iheartubuntu> pleia2 - i will do something tonite. hope i make it in. i think all these great designs are passing my skills by now :(
[21:37] <iheartubuntu> there was a star trek looking one a week or two ago... now i dont see it.
[21:42] <iheartubuntu> ohh by april 4th. i'll get at least two in :)
[21:43] <pleia2> they are deciding on the morning of april 4th, UK time
[21:43] <pleia2> so by the 3rd here really :)
[21:46] <iheartubuntu> ohh OK thx