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ddbt_nl	DaPenguin: i know about tabs.. was just looking for a way to split the screen in VI	00:00
ddbt_nl	lmontrieux: the last one, that was the one i was looking for.. a split screen in vi	00:00
trism	ddbt_nl: I find NERDTree useful with vim, browse the files on one side, and hit o to open them in a window or t in a new tab	00:00
DaPenguin	ddbt_nl, don't know how to do it in vim, emacs its ctrl-x, then ctrl-arrows to switch windows	00:01
lmontrieux	ddbt_nl, sorry, can't remember from the top of my head. In emacs it's C-x 2 or C-x 3, but in vim, I don't know	00:01
maco	ddbt_nl: :split	00:01
maco	ddbt_nl: or for a vertical split: :vsplit	00:02
ddbt_nl	: split?	00:02
ok_wait	what can i do to make network manager stop disconnecting and reconnecting my shared wired connection? it's like a child playing with a light switch. has anybody heard of this?	00:02
maco	ddbt_nl: no space	00:02
ddbt_nl	i know	00:02
ddbt_nl	i'll try it out	00:02
maco	ddbt_nl: ctrl+w and arrow keys to move around	00:02
ok_wait	i'm using pinguy with ubuntu 10.10 (gnome)	00:02
DaPenguin	ok_wait, is it going through a router or a switch?	00:03
ok_wait	if it's connected directly to the other computer or going through a switch, it still does it :/	00:04
ddbt_nl	maco: and how can i open 2 separate files then? i mean.. now i'm editing the same file in 2 windows	00:04
DaPenguin	ddbt_nl, try opening the second file in the second window	00:05
maco	ddbt_nl: :e filename	00:05
ddbt_nl	maco: tryin'	00:05
AuroraX	How can i install GCC witthout having MAKE installed? Cuz i need MAKE to install GCC and vice versa :O	00:06
rcmaehl	☣☢ <- why can't some people not on linux see these?	00:06
ok_wait	i have cricket broadband now (usb wifi modem) as ppp0. if i leave the cable connected for too long nm disconnects the ppp0	00:06
maco	rcmaehl: using a font that doesnt have them?	00:06
rcmaehl	maco: idk ask them	00:06
maco	rcmaehl: thats the only reason i can think of why they couldnt	00:07
hp	Hi converting hs basketball video to quicktime how do i add quicktime or mov to Winff	00:07
maco	AuroraX: sudo apt-get install build-essential	00:07
ok_wait	DaPenguin, to answer your question: no	00:07
irvie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/588038/	00:09
irvie	errr	00:09
AuroraX	maco: will that work without having nor gcc nor make nor nothing (i have apt-get) installed?	00:09
Xiol	How do I stop Server 10.04 from clearing the screen after the boot messages have been show, but before the login prompt? Nothing in rc.local or issue...	00:09
maco	AuroraX: yes, thats the usual way to get those things	00:09
erkan^	!chrome-os	00:10
AuroraX	maco: thanks! it will be very useful :) my friend bought a sheevaplug PC and that bring a Debian for AMR processors that has nothing installed on it	00:10
aeon-ltd	Xiol: iirc, pressing scroll lock will pause the messages	00:10
pHro	is there an irc channel dedicated to ubuntu server issues?	00:10
hp	ubuntu converting hs basketball video to mov any suggestions	00:11
AuroraX	maco: build-essential or build-essentials?	00:11
Logan_	!server \| pHro	00:11
ubottu	pHro: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server	00:11
pHro	Logan_, thx	00:11
mchearty	ohsix: Figured out how to do it without software, package is dov4l :3	00:11
Xiol	aeon-ltd: it's not that as such, i need to display a scripted message - can't script in /etc/issue, so it needs to go in rc.local, which gets cleared. can't find where that clear is coming from though	00:11
Logan_	pHro: you're welcome	00:11
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mchearty	ohsix: just pinged u to let u know :)	00:11
rachel_hp	hi anyone know how to convert mpeg video to mov High School basketball game	00:12
maco	AuroraX: singular	00:12
Logan_	erkan^: do you need help with Chrome OS?	00:12
AuroraX	maco: what?	00:13
AuroraX	maco: ah ok	00:13
AuroraX	maco: singular of "not plural" lol, sorry, my bad english xD Thanks	00:13
rachel_hp	where is a good channel for video editing	00:13
AuroraX	maco: damn, i dont have wget installed LOL	00:14
mkanyicy	rachel_hp, editing a video is not the same as converting it	00:14
erkan^	yes Logan_	00:14
maco	AuroraX: is this ubuntu or something else?	00:14
AuroraX	maco: Debian for ARM	00:14
rachel_hp	i want to conver mkanyicy	00:15
rachel_hp	convert sorry mkayicy	00:15
Logan_	erkan^: /join #chromium-support	00:15
limitlesspill	where is a good resource to begin ubuntu development?	00:15
AuroraX	maco: i have it running on this: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/gallery.html	00:15
ddbt_nl	maco: why do i need to hit ctrl + w twice to switch the window?	00:16
maco	ddbt_nl: i usually just hit it once and then use an arrow key after...	00:16
mkanyicy	rachel_hp, ffmpeg	00:16
rachel_hp	Mkanyicy I have winff but quicktime isn't choice	00:16
maco	AuroraX: hmm not sure. maybe want to try a debian channel?	00:16
maco	AuroraX: i would think if you have apt-get you'd have some way for it to download things, such as wget..	00:16
mkanyicy	rachel_hp, ffmpeg commandline	00:17
AuroraX	maco: apt-get asks me for wget LOL	00:17
rachel_hp	mkanyicy on the support it shows quick time as an option	00:17
maco	AuroraX: ive never used the arm build of debian. i suggest #debian	00:17
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rachel_hp	not sure i am smart enough mkanyicy for command line	00:18
ok_wait	well i know networkmanager blows but is there really no way to fix it if something goes wrong??	00:18
AuroraX	maco: yes, im gonna ask there, thanks, as soon as i get wget ill be able to install build-essential :)	00:18
DaPenguin	what kind of distro doesn't install wget? that's just weird...	00:20
AuroraX	DaPenguin: lol, Debian for ARM	00:21
ok_wait	does anybody know if there's a network configuration utility alternative to networkmanager that supports ppp?	00:21
maco	ok_wait: pppoeconf ?	00:21
ok_wait	and/or pppoe	00:22
maco	ok_wait: though i think there should be a network manager plugin too	00:22
ok_wait	i want network manager to go bye bye	00:22
ok_wait	i'm looking for an alternative	00:22
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Mndrll	hey guys!	00:25
Mndrll	im trying to install a Virtual Machine on VirtualBOX in UBUNTU 10.10 64 bits, i tried with different OS and it says "this kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU Unable to boot"	00:27
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Mndrll	i did install Ubuntu 10.10 64 bits	00:27
Logan_	!away > PhilMather	00:27
ubottu	PhilMather, please see my private message	00:27
Mndrll	can anyone please help me	00:27
gatoparlante	Is there a way to share a folder via SAMBA in a NTFS partition?	00:27
Logan_	!please \| Mndrll	00:27
ubottu	Mndrll: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude	00:27
Logan_	!samba \| gatoparlante	00:27
ubottu	gatoparlante: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.	00:27
KB1JWQ	Mndrll: uname -a says what?	00:27
rachel_hp	any suggestions for ffmpeg command tutorial	00:28
BlaDe^	Hey guys. I've just installed vsftpd but I can't access it from my laptop, any ideas what i've done wrong?	00:28
BlaDe^	the service is started	00:28
rypervenche	I've been reading up on dpkg-reconfigure locales, and everyone says that I should be able to choose my default language...however when I run it I am not able to. Any advice?	00:28
Logan_	rachel_hp: #ffmpeg should be able to help you out	00:28
Mndrll	KB1JWQ, Linux PhoenixFX 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux	00:29
Logan_	BlaDe^: try joining #vsftpd and asking your question there	00:29
gatoparlante	Thank you, Mr Ubuttu.	00:29
gatoparlante	Ubottu.	00:29
BlaDe^	no-one's home Logan_	00:29
Logan_	!thanks \| gatoparlante	00:29
ubottu	gatoparlante: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	00:29
rachel_hp	Logan_thanks	00:29
Logan_	rachel_hp: you're welcome	00:30
fulka	Hi CcSsNET	00:32
fulka	and HarryD	00:32
Logan_	fulka: neither of those users is in this channel...	00:33
fulka	LOL, sorry, I saw them	00:33
benzaldehyde	ubottu: we're pleased to be making our GPS systems jealous in your pressence	00:33
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	00:33
Mndrll	KB1JWQ, Linux PhoenixFX 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux	00:33
fulka	Sorry, I have just connect because I need to install CmapTools on Ubuntu and I can't...	00:33
fulka	I have downloaded the bin archive; then I executed in terminal: sudo chmod +x archive_name.bin... it ask me for my password, I give it, and nothing else happens	00:35
infinitux	hi.	00:35
infinitux	is there a repository for the most up to date stable kernel available on kernel.org?	00:36
fulka	hello? can somebody help me?	00:37
Logan_	!please \| fulka	00:37
ubottu	fulka: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude	00:37
vitalius	is there a way to restart USB service? it used to be in /etc/init.d/hotplug but where did it move in 10.04?	00:37
IdleOne	fulka: chmod +x made the bin executable now you need to execute it	00:37
DaPenguin	vitalius, maybe sudo service hotplug restart	00:38
fulka	ok... NO... I double click in it, and nothing happens again... I have checked to "excecute as a program"	00:38
Mndrll	have anyone used or uses VirtualBox on a 64 bit machine with ubuntu 10.10	00:39
Mndrll	???	00:39
DaPenguin	fulka, try running in a term window and see if any errors get kicked back	00:39
fulka	I also wrote on terminal: ./archive_name.bin and still nothing	00:39
vitalius	are all usb devices (mouse,keyboard) in udev now?	00:39
habeouscorpus	Mndrll: I've used it on a 32 if that helps any.	00:40
Hodr	Hey guys, installed ISPConfig, everything everything is fast until I try to access the DB, it's so slow things often time out	00:40
fulka	It returned: "bash: ./archive_name.bin is a directory	00:40
Hodr	hmm, double word typo... sorry	00:41
esco	hey, what's that service called that ubuntu is doing like dropbox?	00:41
dewey423	fulka: then enter it cd ./archive_name.bin	00:41
habeouscorpus	ubuntu one	00:41
esco	thanks	00:41
habeouscorpus	no prob	00:41
fulka	ok	00:41
BlaDe^	Hey guys. I've just installed vsftpd but I can't access it from my laptop, any ideas what i've done wrong? Could it be ipfw?	00:42
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, the thing is that i cant install any OS cause it appears "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU"	00:42
dewey423	BlaDe^: is it listening?	00:42
benzaldehyde	BlaDe^: have you ever tried Wedmin?	00:42
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, uname -a says "Linux PhoenixFX 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux	00:42
Mndrll	"	00:42
benzaldehyde	*webmin	00:42
meganerdca	BlaDe^: if you put a firewall on it then probably	00:42
itaylor57	!webmin	00:42
ubottu	webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.	00:42
habeouscorpus	Mndrll: Is Virtualbox the 64 bit version?	00:43
benzaldehyde	itaylor57: they giveth and taketh away, why god why	00:43
Mndrll	on virtualbox website..	00:43
Hodr	any idea why mysql would be super slow on a fresh install?	00:43
habeouscorpus	Mndrll: so it is the 64 version?	00:43
Mndrll	ther are 2 options for a Ubuntu Maverick version, the i386, and the AMD64	00:44
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, i install the AMD64	00:44
{C9}t00lsh3d	Is 64bit flash player glitchy as hell in ubuntu 10.04 or is it just me ? (:	00:44
dewey423	Hodr: ISAM?	00:44
habeouscorpus	Mndrll: Install the AMD54.	00:44
habeouscorpus	*64	00:44
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, yes i did install that one...	00:44
habeouscorpus	Mndrll: Hmm. That's odd.	00:45
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fulka	it returned ~/archive_name.bin$ I do not know what to do	00:45
Mkop	I'm trying to install open-vm-tools on a 10.04 guest VM. http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/open-vm-tools seems to indicate that the package exists, but "apt-get install open-vm-tools" says "E: Couldn't find package open-vm-tools"	00:46
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, i even try to install ubuntu 10.10 same version i have on the virtualbox and it says the same thing	00:46
BlaDe^	dewey423 I belive so - the service is running and listen=YES	00:47
habeouscorpus	Mndrll: have you tried googling the error?	00:47
BlaDe^	benzaldehyde nope	00:47
BlaDe^	meganerdca i'm not sure	00:47
tbruff13	Help	00:48
tbruff13	Is anyone on	00:48
DaPenguin	!ask \| tbruff13	00:48
ubottu	tbruff13: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	00:48
fulka	with cd ./... returned: ~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$	00:49
tbruff13	DaPenguin, okay then here goes when i click on something in my place menu like downloads instead of opening into file manager it opens up in VLC music player	00:50
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, yes i did but i have already enabled the VT-X/AMD-V	00:50
DaPenguin	tbruff13, check file type associations in the settings panel. make sure a default file manager is set	00:51
rachel_hp	Logan_ pasteeater you guys are awesome its working	00:51
habeouscorpus	Mndrll i'm a little stumped.	00:51
fulka	What do I have to do now?	00:52
chotaz	hey guys	00:52
sparc	If I want to try installing a package from Maverick on Lucid, can I just add a Maverick deb line to my sources.list?	00:52
chotaz	how do I add softsub support to totem?	00:52
sparc	or will that make everything explode	00:52
chotaz	like having it automatically detect subtitles?	00:52
LjL	sparc: might make everything explode... if you really want to, install the .deb separately	00:52
tbruff13	DaPenguin, sorry for the wait how do i do this	00:53
LjL	sparc: there is always the option of requesting a backport, as well	00:53
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, thanks either way, ill keep on searching wtf!!...thanks!!	00:53
sparc	LjL: ok, thanks, i'll try downloading it from packages.ubuntu.com	00:53
sparc	LjL: yeah, I should really request a backport of puppet and puppetmaster	00:53
habeouscorpus	Mndrll: sorry! good luck.	00:53
Jasonn	I am not able to connect to a VPN on my computer, it just sais failed to connect to	00:53
DaPenguin	tbruff13, not sure exactly where it is in gnome. i run kde normally.	00:53
tbruff13	DaPenguin, okay then how do i fix this annoying issue that started for no rason	00:54
tbruff13	reason	00:54
digirak	any body knows what this at-spi-registryd process is?	00:54
Mndrll	habeouscorpus, thanks!	00:54
benzaldehyde	digirak: nope, did you try killing it	00:55
fulka	Dewey423?	00:55
digirak	benzaldehyde: na wanted to know if its a system process before i kill it	00:55
tbruff13	okay does anyone know how to fix places menu opening in VLC	00:55
eflynn	Having trouble hooking laptop up to external monitor. It flashes a few times, then goes blank on the external monitor	00:56
mdshann	some of them have a function key you have to hit to get it to go to the external	00:57
tbruff13	If fixed it by right clicking and using open with	00:57
benzaldehyde	digis	00:58
GuySoft	hi all, might anyone know of a doc here how to set unity to be the default window manager?	00:58
benzaldehyde	sorry	00:58
mdshann	Does anyone here use 11.04 on a laptop with nvidia mcp79 audio?	00:59
Jasonn	!natty mdshann	00:59
Jasonn	!natty \| mdshann	00:59
ubottu	mdshann: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.	00:59
lampe2	is there a way to enable pivot on ubuntu?	01:00
_Neytiri_	can someone point me to a good tutorial to setting up a mail server on my machine?	01:01
zmbi	http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/	01:01
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rypervenche	Is there any way to put all of the language locales settings back to default?	01:05
benzaldehyde	_Neytiri_: i've flirted with that idea on occassion, i think you have to have a static ip and nameservers but don't quote me. maybe someone here can enlightenme but i beleive it is not just a matter of steps, i think there is some other things you need before the networks will recognize you as a mail exchange server, probably a spam related discrepency or rather spam preventive measure i should say	01:05
fulka	again: trying to execute a binary file: I cheched "execute as a program", typed chmod +x... , then ./...bin... then cd ./...bin it returned ~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$ now what?	01:07
loctrice	hello room	01:08
loctrice	is this the correct place for technical issues? I haven't been on in a while	01:09
infinitux	if I have a symbolic link to a directory within a directory and I scp -r a directory containing it, will it double copy the file the symlink is pointing at or will it just copy it once?	01:09
benzaldehyde	loctrice: i should hope so	01:09
infinitux	could I get trapped in an infinite transfer loop?	01:09
loctrice	I'm having a problem with my thin clients, but it's not an ltsp issue. I have squid set up as a proxy for my ltsp and I'm trying to play hulu.	01:10
loctrice	Hulu starts, works great, but won't load anything after the advertisements	01:10
Ampelbein	infinitux: I think you can't do that with scp.	01:10
richcollins	Why would output appear in my terminal, but not in the file that I redirect output to?	01:11
zmbi	fulka, use ./binname	01:12
rcmaehl	ZOMG! Google Chrome OS is getting rid of the shift key!	01:12
GuySoft	hey all, i upgraded now an ubuntu-netbook-remix to 10.10. and I have NO desktop configuration, no icon, nothing, (just an empty taskbar) is there a way to revert it to default?	01:12
richcollins	When I run a command in the terminal, I see it print line after line of output	01:12
wingdspur	anybody using laptop with nvidia optimus without issues?	01:12
fulka	I did it, and it returned me: archive_nave is a directory	01:12
richcollins	when I redirect to a file, I see the first few lines and then the last line	01:12
richcollins	the lines in between are misisng	01:12
fulka	zmbi, I did it, and it returned me: archive_nave is a director	01:13
fulka	archive_name is a directory (sorry)	01:13
habeouscorpus	infinitux: try it.	01:13
zmbi	then cd to it	01:13
infinitux	already did what i didn't want. made multiple copies	01:14
teage	how do the dual monitors work?, does it just increase the size of current desktop or does it display a entire different desktop?	01:15
fulka	zmbi, I wrote: cd ./ binname and it returned: ~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$ Now I don't know...	01:15
loctrice	infinitux: can't you just scp the files inside the directory?	01:15
zmbi	you dont use ./ when you cd	01:16
teage	oh, and do the monitors have to be the same brand name and/or the same size	01:16
zmbi	what is the output of ls	01:17
leapy0yo	what does ubuntu use if it does not use X org or Freex86?	01:17
fulka	ah... let me try then	01:17
regeya	it currently uses xorg leapy0yo	01:18
BlaDe^	How can I create a user with minimalistic priviliges for vsftpd?	01:18
fulka	zmbi, it returned: bash: cd: LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin: No existe el fichero o el directorio	01:18
fulka	fulka@fulka-laptop:~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$ (it says that directory does not exist)	01:18
Rebe\|arms	hey all	01:18
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zmbi	?	01:19
benzaldehyde	BlaDe^: i would think creating a user on the system in the shell would be your solution	01:19
_Neytiri_	benzaldehyde, i do have static ip's and nameservers	01:19
zmbi	ok stop and again	01:19
_Neytiri_	i just dont know how to do it	01:19
fulka	mmm... now I don't know what I did... ok.	01:19
zmbi	in wich path is the file you want to execute?	01:19
fulka	I let it in the desktop	01:20
Surenio	hello!	01:20
zmbi	then:	01:20
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zmbi	cd ~/Desktop	01:20
Surenio	Hi!! how aare you?	01:20
Jasonn	I am trying to set up a PPTP server, but clients cannot connect to it :(	01:21
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fulka	ok... then?	01:22
zmbi	ls	01:22
hello	hello	01:22
loctrice	hello hello	01:22
hello	hello to you good sir	01:22
fulka	sorry, what is "ls"?	01:22
hello	love sand	01:23
loctrice	om nom nom nom	01:23
zmbi	then you see what files are in the folder you in	01:23
benzaldehyde	loctrice: nom nom nom	01:23
zmbi	to know more about ls, type man ls	01:23
benzaldehyde	fulka: list	01:24
fulka	it appeared: fulka@fulka-laptop:~/Escritorio$	01:24
fulka	lol... sorry, I am learning	01:24
zmbi	its ok	01:24
rodd	hi where can i get help for gparted	01:24
BlaDe^	can anyone help me with creating vsftpd users?	01:24
loctrice	I'm trying to get hulu to work through squid. Anyone have any ideas?	01:24
zmbi	do you see the $ at the end??	01:24
fulka	yes	01:24
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benzaldehyde	loctrice: i don't think hulu hires sea creatures, sorry	01:25
dewey423	if I type $nano fileone filetwo ; how do I switch between files?	01:25
loctrice	benzaldehyde: I should have known facepalm . What bout getting it to work through a local proxy?	01:26
zmbi	the output of ls ~/Desktop = fulka@fulka-laptop:~/Escritorio$ ???	01:27
BlaDe^	can anyone help me with creating vsftpd users, please?	01:27
fulka	yep	01:27
bin_bash	Hello all. I have been trying to use rsync, but I get an error that the directory is not found. the syntax I'm using is rsync -va --progress /home/user/media/Ubuntu/home	01:27
bubina	ciao!	01:28
BlaDe^	fulka was that to me?	01:28
Rebe\|arms	anyone feel like helping a noob with a problem?	01:28
fulka	blade, no... to zmbi	01:28
zmbi	then your desktop is empty?	01:28
fulka	zmbi, it can be... I have some folders and archives there	01:28
loctrice	Rebe: what kind of problem?	01:28
fulka	can't be... sorry	01:28
zmbi	Desktop == Escritorio ??	01:29
loctrice	fulka: type pwd	01:29
fulka	zmbi... exactly	01:29
fulka	loctrice... with "sudo"?	01:29
zmbi	why	01:29
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: having trouble with video on new Ubuntu install	01:29
fulka	let me do it again	01:30
quizno50	@Rebe\|arms what kind of trouble, and on what kind of hardware?	01:30
dewey423	BlaDe^: are you using adduser ?	01:30
zmbi	type ls ~/ Escritorio	01:30
fulka	LOL... sorry... now I have the list	01:30
loctrice	Rebe: I haven't had issues with video since I was on debian. then quizno's questions	01:30
fulka	and yes, there it is the bin-archive	01:30
zmbi	:)	01:30
zmbi	ok	01:30
zmbi	if you type ls -hl you see the rights from all files in it and the size of it	01:32
bubina	!list	01:32
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».	01:32
zmonk	hi	01:32
zmbi	put down the line from your binfile here please	01:32
Batshua	Hey guys, I have a question	01:32
Rebe\|arms	hmmmmm... been working on this for 2 days now	01:32
Batshua	so my boyfriend's laptop which I am borrowing is an acer with one of those buttons that disables the trackpad	01:32
BlaDe^	can anyone help me with creating vsftpd users, please?	01:33
fulka	zmbi, -rwxrwxrwx 1 fulka fulka 110M 2011-03-29 14:10 LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin	01:33
diegoviola	hi	01:33
Batshua	and I know it's a known bug since 9.04, but I'm running 10.04	01:33
diegoviola	how do i enable laptop mode in ubuntu?	01:33
zmbi	ok	01:33
loctrice	Rebe: did you respond with anything? I think I might be missing some lines or something	01:33
diegoviola	10.10 here	01:33
zmbi	then type:	01:33
Rebe\|arms	oh, I am sorry... I must have missed something myself	01:33
zmbi	./LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin	01:33
zmonk	does anyone know the grep command for grepping any two chars enclosed by parentheses?	01:34
Batshua	diegoviola: is 10.10 lts?	01:34
loctrice	Rebe: what type of video problems are you having, first off	01:34
diegoviola	Batshua: no idea	01:34
fulka	ok	01:34
Batshua	diegoviola: 'cause I thought it wasn't, and he never runs anything that isn't LTS	01:34
zmbi	then it should execute the file	01:35
Batshua	so uhm, hold on.	01:35
fulka	zmbi, you are a genius... thanks a lot, it is executing it	01:35
Batshua	https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/374459	01:35
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 374459 in linux (Ubuntu) "Acer Aspire 5738G: touchpad can be switched off, but not on again" [High,Triaged]	01:35
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: Ubuntu boots up to terminal only unless I use recovery mode.	01:35
Batshua	That's what I found about it, and it seems to imply the drivers...	01:35
zmbi	im not a genius, but thanks for thinking that :)	01:35
Batshua	like, are fixed?	01:35
loctrice	Rebe: so you don't get a desktop?	01:35
Batshua	Except either they're nto or I don't have the right drivers installed.	01:35
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: correct	01:36
diegoviola	HOW TO ENABLE LAPTOP MODE?	01:36
fulka	thanks again... and goodbye	01:36
zmbi	bye	01:36
loctrice	Rebe: can you switch to another tty and get a terminal?	01:36
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Rebe\|arms	loctrice: tried that but still no gui.... and after a minute or so the screen goes full black and locks up	01:37
loctrice	Rebe: I'm just wondering if you get a tty, not really concerned about the gui. This is an install right, not a live cd?	01:37
Batshua	So, uh, how do I figure out which one it is, so I can fix it?	01:38
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: correct.... I guess that I don't really understand what a tty is....sorry	01:38
loctrice	Rebe: if you hit ctrl + alt + F2 you should get a terminal. You'll have to work from there if you don't have a gui	01:39
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: ok	01:39
loctrice	Rebe: do you know what video hardware you have?	01:40
wn1zid	tthe text to the right wont complete, is there a way i can fix this ??, thanks : http://imagebin.org/145997	01:40
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: I know that it is Intel HD...... I just bought this laptop..... don't really know it all thatwell	01:41
loctrice	Rebe: are you using the desktop edition or the netbook remix for the laptop?	01:41
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: desktop	01:42
loctrice	Reb: type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf	01:42
loctrice	see if your device section has a driver	01:42
Lesterwood	>ubuntu takes 25 seconds to boot	01:42
Lesterwood	what the fuck?	01:42
IdleOne	!language \| Lesterwood	01:43
ubottu	Lesterwood: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.	01:43
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: ok.... one sec	01:43
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onecrazycat	Word.	01:43
Rebe\|arms	locttrice: ummm.... no such file or directory	01:45
loctrice	Reb: the X in X11 is capitol... use tab completion if you can	01:45
DARKGuy	hey, anybody knows how do I exclude a module in an USB install stick made with unetbootin and 10.10, my netbook can't boot the ubuntu install because it hangs with "phy0 -> rt2800pci_mcu_status: Error - MCU request failed, no response from hardware" netbook is a Siragon ML-1040 and links on google with the error description say to blacklist some modules, but how do I do that on an usb install stick ?	01:45
ericfizer	has anyone had experience with power issues with compaq laptops?	01:45
rypervenche	Is there any way to put all of the language locales settings back to default?	01:45
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Rebe\|arms	loctrice: hmmm, still a no-go..... no such file	01:47
indamoth	how do i remove ubuntu?	01:48
loctrice	Rebe: Let me google for a minute. That file should be there ls /etc/ \|grep X	01:48
stercor	What is the Super+N command, and how do I do it?	01:49
rypervenche	How can I change my locale settings back to default? I'm having problems with different utf8 files. Can I somehow delete all of the files and settings and start from scratch?	01:49
zmbi	idamoth: rm -r /	01:50
rww	doesn't work ^	01:50
indamoth	how do i remove ubuntu?	01:50
pheuter	just installed 11.04 beta on vmware, toolbar is not visible, where did it go? and why isn't it unity? is it not compatible with vmware?	01:50
Rebe\|arms	loctrice:	01:50
rww	pheuter: #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support	01:50
pheuter	rww: thnx	01:50
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: am i supposed to type tha ls command?	01:50
stercor	indamoth: What replaces it?	01:50
indamoth	stercor: windows 7	01:51
loctrice	Reb: yes. it's case sensative. I was just wanting you to grep for a capitol X	01:51
loctrice	Reb: ls /etc/ \|grep X	01:51
stercor	indamoth: Do you have an install disk?	01:51
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: ok.... all it came up with is X11	01:52
indamoth	stercor: no i have to download it	01:52
bonny	are there any screen video takers similar to fraps for linux	01:52
loctrice	Reb: cd /etc/X11	01:52
rypervenche	bonny: glc	01:52
loctrice	Reb: the do another ls	01:52
bonny	ok	01:52
stercor	indamoth: Can you boot from a flash drive (RAM stick)?	01:52
bonny	bonny@bonny-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install glc	01:52
bonny	Reading package lists... Done	01:52
bonny	Building dependency tree	01:52
bonny	Reading state information... Done	01:52
bonny	E: Couldn't find package glc	01:52
FloodBot2	bonny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	01:52
bonny	not workin	01:52
rypervenche	bonny: The guy has stopped working on it, but it still works. Audio can be a bit wonky if you want multiple inputs, but if you just want the basics, it works great.	01:52
stercor	indamoth: You may have to go in and change some BIOS settings.	01:53
stercor	indamoth: to get it to boot from the flash drive.	01:53
Kalout	Anyone there? Kinda desprate for help here.	01:54
loctrice	I had this exact same problem for two months with my very first Debian install.	01:54
loctrice	Debian was a great learning distro for me :)	01:55
rypervenche	bonny: https://github.com/nullkey/glc/wiki/Install	01:55
stercor	indamoth: Does your computer have a CD/DVD-ROM drive?	01:55
Kalout	anyone have ubuntu dual booted?	01:55
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: hmmm..... it still keeps coming up with only X11	01:56
loctrice	Reb: did you cd? cd /etc/X11/	01:56
loctrice	Reb: then type ls	01:56
stercor	Kalout: I put dual-boot on another computer. wubi is the key.	01:56
Hamled	I'm looking for a commandline tool similar to process monitor for Windows. Specifically, I want to be able to see a historical list of file access attempts by a particular process (lsof seems to only provide what files are open at the moment lsof is run)	01:56
Hamled	anyone know of a tool that can do that?	01:57
Rebe\|arms	app-defaults X Xreset Xsession.options	01:57
Rebe\|arms	cursors xinit Xreset.d Xwrapper.config	01:57
Rebe\|arms	default-display-manager xkb Xresources	01:57
Rebe\|arms	fonts xorg.conf.failsafe Xsession	01:57
Rebe\|arms	rgb.txt xorg.conf.save Xsession.d	01:57
FloodBot2	Rebe\|arms: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	01:57
Kalout	stercor: wubi doesnt work. I cant get any form of linux onto my computer	01:57
c0dege3k	I just recently upgraded to the 64 bit version of maverick, and now when i try to do things with my folders, it says permission denied. how do i fix this?	01:57
Rebe\|arms	oh... sorry	01:57
c0dege3k	oh, and this is in terminal	01:57
rypervenche	How can I change my locale settings back to default? I'm having problems with different utf8 files. Can I somehow delete all of the files and settings and start from scratch?	01:57
stercor	Kalout: Uh, on.	01:58
stercor	Kalout: Uh, oh. I'm out of my league.	01:58
loctrice	Reb: did you have an xorg.conf in there? I didn't see	01:58
Kalout	stercor: HP Envy 14. And oh	01:58
bonny	Thnx	01:58
[deXter]	Hey all, any recommendations for a really good audio cd ripper?	01:59
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: no..... dont see one	01:59
loctrice	Reb: what are your xorg. files?	02:00
Rebe\|arms	xorg.conf.failsafe	02:00
Rebe\|arms	xorg.conf.save	02:00
Rebe\|arms	and thats it	02:00
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mark49_	@seek "old earth"	02:01
loctrice	Reb: cat xorg.conf.failsafe ... it should be a reverted version in case something went awry. I'm looking for a section device . If it's the right file we can use it	02:02
{C9}t00lsh3d	I'm scarred to install my video drivers directy from ati site, last time I did that on linux 2d accels stopped working too, but ubuntu installed my 3D accel but playonlinux says it doesn't detect 3D accel ?	02:02
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Rebe\|arms	loctrice: ok... one sec	02:02
kastor_	ok	02:02
Rebe\|arms	loctrice... ok done	02:03
loctrice	Reb: did it have the section "Device" in it?	02:03
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: yes	02:04
wn1zid	does anyone have any solutions for why the text to the right is like it is ?? http://imagebin.org/145997	02:04
loctrice	Reb: what device was listed?	02:04
loctrice	Reb: the driver i mean	02:04
kastor_	kastor exit	02:04
indamoth	SHUT UP BITCH!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!	02:04
th0r	wn1zid: I think that is a flaw in the page design...the text is too large for the cell	02:04
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: "vesa"	02:04
IdleOne	indamoth: ok	02:05
carlossalazar	goodnight greetings come from the Spanish channel but do not answer, my problem is I change the language from Spanish to English without touching anything or I will update waiting for a response thanks	02:05
loctrice	Reb: ok, just check one more time to make sure that there is no xorg.conf so we don't hose anything up	02:05
IdleOne	ubottu: tell indamoth about guidelines	02:05
ubottu	indamoth, please see my private message	02:05
wn1zid	th0r- most pages load normally, but ya, some are just like that, a while ago i seen a fix for it and it worked, but its been a while and forgot where i found it.	02:05
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: k... one sec	02:05
bastidrazor	loctrice: you do know you could type 'reb' then hit tab to auto-complete the name.	02:06
Rebe\|arms	loctrice: no, there is none	02:06
loctrice	I didnt know that, and it didn't work	02:06
Rebe\|arms	lol bastidrazor ... thanks	02:07
loctrice	Reb: sudo cp xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf	02:07
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Rebe\|arms	loctrice, ok, one sec	02:07
bastidrazor	loctrice: the client you're using doesn't support tab completion.. very odd	02:07
bonny	i downloaded it but wat category will it be in	02:07
indamoth	how do i remove ubuntu?	02:08
bastidrazor	indamoth: how did you install it?	02:08
loctrice	indamoth: the wubi should have a remove option. if not, you can remove it from add/remove programs	02:08
carlossalazar	goodnight greetings come from the Spanish channel but do not answer, my problem is I change the language from Spanish to English without touching anything or I will update waiting for a response thanks	02:08
Rebe\|arms	loctrice, ok... done	02:09
loctrice	Reb: it's already set to use the safe driver, so you should be able to just reboot. I'm not sure how you lost the original	02:09
loctrice	Reb: you can just type sudo reboot	02:09
Rebe\|arms	loctrice, ok.... gonna try this and will letyou know how it went	02:10
Rebe\|arms	loctrice, brb	02:10
elocina	n #wikihow	02:12
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loctrice	well how'd it go?	02:13
indamoth	SHUT UP BITCH!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!	02:13
loctrice	wow	02:14
edbian	hahahaa	02:14
Rebe\|arms	loctrice, ok..... it still stopped at the terminal but i was able to type startx and the gui started	02:14
loctrice	excellent	02:14
Rebe\|arms	thanks for the help	02:16
rpaddock	How do you figure out what updates you recently installed? One of the ones that I installed today seems to have broken eclipse	02:16
loctrice	yw	02:17
loctrice	I'm having problems getting hulu to work on my thin clients through squid. Anyone have any experience with squid?	02:18
Kopete	hola buenas tardes	02:18
david_	@rpaddock - are you using synaptic? i think there's a part which shows you your recently installed packages	02:19
rpaddock	david_: Ah, thanks. Must not have seen the "history" menu item	02:20
tjiggi_fo	rpaddock, look in your log file viewer at the dpkg.log	02:20
loctrice	I'm surprised that after explaining my problem to hulu support they tell me how to ping one of the servers from a windows command prompt. aparently they don't know if squid is affecting it	02:23
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Kopete	hola necesito ayuda!!	02:24
loctrice	I just want hulu to work on my thin clients >,< . It has to be squid	02:24
Loshki	!es \| Kopete	02:24
rww	!es \| Kopete	02:24
ubottu	Kopete: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	02:24
Kopete	thanks ubottu	02:25
CyFus	is anyone here good with nvidia CUDA?	02:25
murphy	--nickname "san"	02:25
loctrice	I think I will search for a squid channel. I'm sure there is one.	02:27
lighta	hey guys is there an autocomment function in gedit ?	02:30
fanzhen	have anyone got some news about gnome 3 ?	02:30
zmbi	ligtha: what do you mean?	02:31
k_sze	stupid power cord messed up my upgrade process.	02:34
k_sze	Now I need to fetch a CD/DVD reader to reinstall everything.	02:35
k_sze	I might as well buy some new hardware and build a new gig.	02:35
Riptide	oi oi, anyone here good with sound problems?	02:35
wheaties_	yo	02:36
wheaties_	i got a good question	02:36
wheaties_	pretty big prob	02:36
wheaties_	you think you can help?	02:36
th0r	wheaties_: no	02:36
wheaties_	:(	02:37
rww	not if you don't state it.	02:37
wheaties_	well	02:37
wheaties_	i need video card drivers	02:37
rww	preferably in a manner that doesn't involve abusing your return key :\	02:37
trism	lighta: yes, it is in the gedit-plugins package	02:37
Riptide	long story short....i have no sound	02:37
wheaties_	that are only avalible via windows xp installer	02:37
isleshocky77	Anyone got an idea why it's not automatically running ecrypt-mount-private upon login through ssh?	02:38
Riptide	Pass, i'm fairly new on the Ubuntu scene	02:39
sacarlson	isleshocky77: the user you loged into has an encrypted /home/user account?	02:40
isleshocky77	sacarlson: Yes.	02:40
isleshocky77	sacarlson: And this stopped working out of the blue. I believe it was working.	02:40
CyFus	im stuck on installing cuda, im getting errors from ld	02:41
isleshocky77	sacarlson: The auto-mount file is in .ecryptfs	02:41
wheaties_	trism: you sure that will work for a mother-board card (not removable)?	02:41
CyFus	but I already linked to the headers, did something break between 10.04 and 10.10?	02:41
detrix42	Hi, I have ubuntu server 10.10, with a gnome also installed. It is currently in runlevel 2, and I need it to be in runlevel 3 or 5. How do I switch to a different runlevel?	02:42
sacarlson	isleshocky77: maybe try sudo mount -a to mount all that is in /etc/fstab I'm not sure where the encrypt tab is kept	02:43
th0r	detrix42: if they haven't changed it....in a terminal type 'sudo init 5'	02:43
itaylor57	!runlevel	02:43
std_err	th0r , you beat me to it. I'm so slow at typing ppl's names >,<	02:43
ubottu	In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.	02:43
sacarlson	isleshocky77: I guess you should lood at /etc/crypttab	02:44
detrix42	th0r: thanks	02:44
isleshocky77	sacarlson: That doesn't seem to be it.	02:44
isleshocky77	sacarlson: If I run ecrypt-mount-private once I login it works fine. but I'm not sure why it's not automatically mounting it any more like it should.	02:45
sacarlson	isleshocky77: ok but at least you found a workaround	02:45
isleshocky77	sacarlson: Well yeah, of course that works. But it's supposed to do it automatically as long as .ecryptfs/auto-mount exists.	02:46
isleshocky77	But it's not doing it.	02:46
bsmith093	i tried to install traceroute and the process froze, so i quit and now i cant get rid of it, E: traceroute: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.	02:47
sacarlson	isleshocky77: I guess you could add that in a line of your .bashrc file to make it mount at entry of the shell	02:47
bsmith093	reinstall freezes too	02:47
detrix42	How do I check what runlevel I am currently at?	02:48
std_err	bsmith: purge?	02:48
bsmith093	cant stuck halfway between in and out	02:48
std_err	detrix: runlevel	02:48
timewriter	hi	02:48
detrix42	std_err: thanks	02:48
timewriter	anyone had panic attacks ?	02:50
milamber	bsmith093: did you try apt-get clean?	02:50
bsmith093	yes no effect	02:50
sacarlson	isleshocky77: oh and did you ever change your password? if the account password has changed then it won't auto mount since the password on the account won't match	02:50
CyFus	what am I doing wrong I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/cuda.conf and sudo ldconfig	02:50
CyFus	but I keep getting usr/lib/ld errors	02:50
std_err	bsmith: install from source.	02:51
isleshocky77	sacarlson: No. I believe I've had the same password. I read that somewhere though so I'm looking how I change the passwords now.	02:51
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std_err	bsmith: that's probably not a good way to do it,but it should use the source version instead of yours	02:51
bsmith093	std_err: how do i do that	02:51
std_err	bsmith: what's the program again?	02:51
bsmith093	traceroute	02:52
bsmith093	when i first tried to install it it hung on unpacking traceroute	02:52
lighta	trism, I didn't found it may you specify please ?	02:52
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std_err	bsmith: have you installed programs from source before?	02:53
rypervenche	woot! I figured our my locale problem!! I had chosen the wrong encoding at my login screen and it was one that did not exist in my locale file :P	02:53
trism	lighta: sudo apt-get install gedit-plugins; then in gedit Edit/Preferences/Plugins, enable code comment, then there will be new options in the edit menu	02:54
std_err	bsmith: It's a hack anyway, probably not the best way to do it. If you haven't installed a program from source before I'd hate to send you in that direction	02:55
bsmith093	std_err: no not really	02:55
std_err	bsmith: probably best to wait for someone who knows better to answer. I'm sure someone will. I'll google a bit while you wait	02:56
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momok	hi all	02:57
momok	have anyone here had used nagios in ubuntu :)	02:57
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c0dege3k	I recently reinstalled Ubuntu to upgrade to x64. Now trying to curl into a folder in terminal and it says Permission denied. What's wrong with it?	02:58
ptn107	c0dege3k, make sure you own the folder	02:59
std_err	bsmith: It's a long shot, but did you try seeing if it was installed in the software center gui?	02:59
momok	if i want to monitor from ubuntu for example 192.168.0.7/home/system.jsp what plugin i should use?	02:59
c0dege3k	ptn107: i do. its the exact same thing i used in x86 and it worked then	02:59
momok	i mean by using nagios :(	02:59
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std_err	the only other thing I can think of is apt-get --purge remove. I"m still googling , but coming up empty	03:00
TrickyJ	hey hi friends..	03:01
deshymers	I'm having an issue with my nvidia drivers and xorg, my desktop is larger then my screen, and no matter what resolution i change it to its still bigger	03:02
momok	c0dege3k: would it involved your iptables?	03:02
TrickyJ	deshymers: Uninstall the drivers and try to re-install ?	03:02
deshymers	I've tried to manually change my xorg.conf, I've updated the driver to the beta and even went to a previous version	03:03
deshymers	TrickyJ: yes	03:03
TrickyJ	ok	03:03
c0dege3k	momk: I dont think so. the command im running is: curl http://android.git.kernel.org/repo > ~/bin/repo	03:03
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deshymers	TrickyJ: any other ideas?	03:04
momok	c0dege3k: maybe you can run strace to check it :P	03:04
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c0dege3k	well, its not JUST the curl.... any command i run dealing with my folders gives me the same error	03:05
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TrickyJ	deshymers: try out this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-adjust-screen-resolution-on-ubuntu.html	03:06
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c0dege3k	well, not all of them, little messup ther	03:06
tjiggi_fo	bsmith093, try apt-get autoremove : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clean-up-your-packages.html If that fails try installing bleachbit from synaptic. You'll find it in the Applications menu after install. Use it to clean up loos fragments.	03:07
deshymers	TrickyJ: cool hanks	03:07
tjiggi_fo	bsmith093, you do know that traceroot is in NetworkTools in Admin, don't you?	03:08
momok	c0dege3k: i think if you try to run strace together for example 'strace curl abc.com > myError.txt' maybe you can try to check it	03:08
bsmith093	oi vey thanks i do now	03:08
std_err	bsmith: I can't really find anything	03:09
wizard1	could someone help me with adding a custom module to always load at boot time?	03:10
wizard1	i know the module works, i just have to manually insert it each time	03:10
std_err	wizard: you can add it as modprobe in the startup scripts if you don't want to mess with grub configs	03:10
wheaties_	ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh	03:10
sacarlson	c0dege3k: a permision problem in your /home/user space? look at ls -l to see who owns the directory you try to write to and what permisions it is set to	03:11
momok	wizard1: did you try to add in .bash_profile?	03:11
momok	i mean have you tried :P	03:11
std_err	doesn't the bash profile get read up every time you open a terminal?	03:11
momok	i think every time you're login not terminal?	03:12
wizard1	std_err: how does modprobe work on ubuntu, it doesnt seem to have modprobe.d/modprobe.conf	03:12
c0dege3k	sacarlson: ah, root owns the folder im trying to work wiht	03:12
c0dege3k	how would i change that?	03:12
std_err	wizard: I would just make a shell to run the command, and add it to the defaults	03:12
sacarlson	c0dege3k: man chown	03:12
wizard1	mmm problem with that is i need to elevate privelleges	03:13
std_err	wizard: the startup script would run as root.. are you the admin?	03:13
momok	oh i think it would be .profile :P	03:13
Lesterwood	guys what is your opinion of windows	03:13
Zealous	Death to Windows :P	03:13
wizard1	i am admin but i dont ever log in as admin	03:13
tjiggi_fo	lesterwood, it doesn't matter!!!	03:13
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momok	triple boot with my windows	03:13
std_err	windows are cool, they hold hte air conditioners and let you know if it's time to get up	03:14
Lesterwood	when will the year of the linux desktop happen	03:14
tjiggi_fo	!ot Lesterwood	03:14
Lesterwood	!ot tjgillies	03:14
tjiggi_fo	!ot \| Lesterwood	03:15
Lesterwood	:\|	03:15
ubottu	Lesterwood: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	03:15
std_err	wizard: well, if you add the shell script to the startup scripts it will run as root. you don't need to elevate	03:15
bsmith093	what does this mean and how do i fix it bc the package is stuck halfway?	03:15
bsmith093		03:15
bsmith093	(Reading database ...	03:15
bsmith093	dpkg: warning: files list file for package `traceroute' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.	03:15
FloodBot1	bsmith093: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:15
std_err	write a bash script that does the modprobe, and put it in init.d	03:15
momok	std_err: im agree with u :D	03:15
sacarlson	bsmith093: try change your repository mirror site in synaptic to something like japan or other	03:16
wizard1	alright will do that	03:16
std_err	wizard: then run update-rc.d your.sh defaults	03:16
wizard1	thanks guys	03:16
std_err	wizard: then forget about it :)	03:16
c0dege3k	sacarlson: that worked! thanks	03:16
sacarlson	c0dege3k: cool	03:16
ignacio	yaaaaawn	03:16
std_err	momok: you mean about windows?	03:17
ignacio	bye everyone	03:17
momok	std_err: i mean the startup scripts :D	03:17
momok	now i've got my own problem.. nagios in ubuntu...	03:18
std_err	I'm not even sure what nagios is	03:18
momok	i want to monitor this url: 192.168.0.7:8080/home/system.jsp	03:18
alex86	hey guys. Can anyone advice some books to read for linux novice?! I want to be confident with linux or maybe can you give some suggestions on what to concentrate while learning linux environment	03:18
Zealous	i am looking for some nice themes for ubuntu 10.10? Any suggestions?	03:18
momok	oh please help me std_err :P	03:18
edbian	alex86: Are you comfortable with the command line?	03:19
sacarlson	momok: monitor? can you open it with a browser?	03:19
DrMorphias	ok i need help installing ubuntu. i cant boot into it?!?	03:19
momok	sacarlson: aha yes	03:19
edbian	DrMorphias: You can boot a live CD. Try that	03:19
sacarlson	momok: what does monitor mean? that the file continues to exist? maybe a script with wget	03:19
momok	i want to use nagios script. but i don't know the command and which one i should use...	03:19
alex86	edbian: with terminal, no at all	03:19
steve0hh	DrMorphias: maybe u have to hit F1 and select boot from CD..	03:19
noob	hey	03:20
std_err	momok: did you check the nagios quickstart guide?	03:20
gsp2009	Zealous: google bisigi themes	03:20
edbian	alex86: Start there! :) http://linuxcommand.org/	03:20
DrMorphias	edbian, i can boot a live cd , and install it, but after installing grub window never shows up.	03:20
edbian	DrMorphias: What happens when you boot?	03:20
alex86	edbian: thanks	03:20
DaGeek247	DrMorphias, is it 10.10?	03:20
edbian	alex86: Come here with specific questions :)	03:20
momok	sacarlson: i mean its checking whether the url still exist and can be access or not... i've checked it but my url is quite different	03:20
DrMorphias	edbian, my computer just idles then reboots continously, and yes its 10.10.	03:20
Zealous	cheers gsp	03:20
momok	the port too	03:21
Meshezabeel	I can access my windows partion from the Places menu, and it displays a mounted icon on the desktop, but I can't find out where it is mounted. Nothing is in /mnt and /media only shows floppy and cdrom	03:21
DrMorphias	DaGeek247, its 10.10 .	03:21
edbian	DrMorphias: press shift a whole bunch after bios but before the reset thing. See if you can get the grub menu to show up	03:21
gsp2009	Zealous: np.	03:21
Meshezabeel	any ideas where it could be mounted?	03:21
DaGeek247	10.10 did the same for me. i had to go back to 10.04.	03:21
noob	hello	03:21
noob	hi	03:21
sacarlson	momok: ok then setup a cron job with at some periodic period of your choice to wget the file and verify it's contents maybe with md5sum to verify it has the same values in it	03:21
Meshezabeel	DaGeek247: are you talking to me?	03:22
edbian	Meshezabeel: look using df -h	03:22
edbian	Meshezabeel: he is not. He's talking to DrMOrphia	03:22
DaGeek247	DrMorphias, actually.	03:22
edbian	s	03:22
DrMorphias	edbian, i think it has something to do with the rocketraid inside my computer. it isnt using any raid but i think it might be confusing grub :/	03:22
std_err	momok: the quickstart guide?	03:22
jfarrell	greetings guys, i am somewhat new to linux	03:22
gsp2009	jfarrell: welcome	03:22
mister2	so, dumb question, but where's the best place to dump compiled programs?	03:22
guampa	anyone knows where to get the gallium radeon driver? tried xorg-edgers ppa but i still have classic mesa, r600	03:22
mister2	isn't it mostly in /etc?	03:22
jfarrell	how do I setup my installation so that I dont need to specify the IP when I SSH to the server	03:22
edbian	DrMorphias: It might be. BUt it sounds to me that grub is loading, loading Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is crashing	03:22
tjiggi_fo	noob, hi, what's your question?	03:22
edbian	mister2: either in /home/you/bin or /usr/local/bin (the latter so other users can run the program)	03:23
milamber	mister2: http://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard	03:23
DaGeek247	mister2 wherever you want.	03:23
mister2	@milamber thanks	03:23
edbian	mister2: /etc is configuration files	03:23
Meshezabeel	edbian: all that shows up there is /dev/sda1 (mounted on /) and tmpfs on /lib/init/rw, udev on /dev, tmpfs on /dev/shm	03:23
ohsix	theres ~/.local/bin too	03:23
edbian	Meshezabeel: Then windows is not mounted	03:23
momok	sacarlson & std_err: ok friend thanks i will try to do that	03:23
edbian	Meshezabeel: Are you viewing the files right now?	03:23
sacarlson	jfarrell: you can setup the address in your /etc/hosts file to give an ip a name	03:23
DrMorphias	edbian, i know how i can boot into ubuntu, and thats using EasyBCD in windows but im trying to GET RID of windows lol	03:23
Meshezabeel	edbian: but I am browsing the windows folders right now	03:23
lovesthethianood	is there an alternative to cain and able for linux that handles ARP poisiong?	03:23
jfarrell	sacarlson, ahh, ok that is what i was reading here, but iw as not sure	03:24
edbian	DrMorphias: Well you need Ubuntu to boot before you can get rid of windows.	03:24
std_err	momok: http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/quickstart-ubuntu.html	03:24
barack_osama-	Meshezabeel maybe you browse it over network?	03:24
edbian	Meshezabeel: Really it's on the desktop? Go into it and keep pressing the up button and see where you get.	03:24
Meshezabeel	edbian: yes, I'm viewing the files right now, it is on the desktop	03:24
edbian	Meshezabeel: Press up repeatedly and see where you get!	03:25
jfarrell	sacarlson, any idea how i can give the machine a static IP, my router is using DHCP, which is what I want for everything else on the network, just not this server	03:25
Meshezabeel	edbian: hmm, it shows up that it is under /media	03:25
edbian	Meshezabeel: That's where it is	03:25
ohsix	jfarrell: check your routers settings, they can usually be set to hand out specific ips to the same machine	03:25
momok	std_err: thanks maybe i should relearn to understand the basic nagios script again...	03:25
std_err	momok: sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. I thought... nvm	03:26
Meshezabeel	edbian: but terminal does not show it there, it only shows cdrom, cdrom0, floppy, and floppy0	03:26
sacarlson	jfarrell: you want your ubuntu box to be setup static on your lan or all your boxes that attach?	03:26
std_err	my mistake	03:26
chx	hi. i am about to get a new laptop -- does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/630748 mean that i better install 10.04 LTS and not muck around with the newer ones 'cos 802.11n for Intel is fubar?	03:26
guampa	anyone knows where to get the gallium radeon driver? tried xorg-edgers ppa but still have classic mesa, r600	03:26
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 630748 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu Natty) "iwlagn degrades quickly during normal wifi session" [High,Confirmed]	03:26
Meshezabeel	edbian: I even tried "cd /media/Acer" and it says no such file or directory	03:26
edbian	jfarrell: You set the IP in /etc/network/interfaces and you give it an IP outside the DHCP range.	03:26
DrMorphias	ebdian, so push shift a bunch of times?	03:26
edbian	Meshezabeel: That is very strange. I don't know. Perhaps has something to do with fuse? (userland mounting)	03:26
jfarrell	edbian, ahh ok, that makes sense	03:27
barack_osama-	Meshezabeel what "df -h" gives u?	03:27
DrMorphias	ebdian, how do i find out if grub is actually loading?	03:27
edbian	DrMorphias: pressing shift during boot time is what makes the grub menu show up. Yes	03:27
sacarlson	jfarrell: if you want that all the boxes that connect to your lan be static then you could disable the dhcp server in your router and run dhcpd in your ubuntu box that can be configured to assign ip dependent on the mac adress of each device	03:27
edbian	DrMorphias: You press shift to get it to show the menu. Some boot loader is running or the system would say 'no operating system found'	03:27
slakc	http://distrowatch.com/ this is a funny april fools joke had me for a sec	03:27
jfarrell	sacarlson, naw its just one box (the ubuntu) that i want static	03:28
jfarrell	everything else i want dynamic	03:28
slakc	24 floppy disks :)	03:28
edbian	jfarrell: If you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file I can help you edit it.	03:28
momok	std_err: its ok its just because i need to learn the depth of the some script like to specific certain port, multiple url, certain protocol :P	03:28
DrMorphias	ebdian, ok ill go try that.	03:28
deshymers	TrickyJ: nope didnt help	03:28
edbian	slakc: hahaha	03:28
Meshezabeel	edbian: I don't know what fuse / userland mounting is :)	03:28
jfarrell	edbian, awesome, let me take a crack at it first :)	03:28
Meshezabeel	barack_osama-: all that shows up there is /dev/sda1 (mounted on /) and tmpfs on /lib/init/rw, udev on /dev, tmpfs on /dev/shm	03:28
edbian	Meshezabeel: Read all about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace	03:29
sacarlson	jfarrell: then you can modify /etc/network/interfaces and define your ubuntu box to be static, it needs 3 values assinged an ip, a gateway and dns address	03:29
edbian	Meshezabeel: barack_osama-: Isn't it strange? fuse?	03:29
jfarrell	sacarlson, ok, i just need to figure out my DNS	03:29
jfarrell	do i need a local DNS?	03:29
edbian	jfarrell: You need to point the machine to some DNS but usually you put that in /etc/resolv.conf	03:30
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sacarlson	jfarrell: the dns address is defined in /etc/resolv.conf and you can use 8.8.8.8 if you want google to be your dns or setup your own dns with bind9	03:30
edbian	jfarrell: Your router will proxy dns for you.	03:30
loctrice	got my nick back .. I really should learn to be in more then one channel in the same terminal I guess	03:30
edbian	jfarrell: http://www.opendns.com/	03:30
jfarrell	and	03:31
edbian	jfarrell: or	03:31
jfarrell	209.55.5.10 and 11	03:31
barack_osama-	sacarlson jfarrell another open DNS servers are 8.8.4.4 or 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2	03:31
edbian	nand	03:31
sacarlson	jfarrell: edbian: yes you can use your router as your dns also or others as edbian states	03:31
oosh	hello	03:31
jfarrell	sacarlson, hold on, i got a million people telling me things	03:31
jfarrell	very new to this aspect of linux	03:31
loctrice	it's not me, I don't even know how to send private messages	03:32
edbian	jfarrell: install gentoo!	03:32
loctrice	lol@edbian	03:32
edbian	jfarrell: no no, don't edit that file!	03:32
jfarrell	sacarlson, 209.55.5.10 and 11 are what i have in my resolv.conf	03:32
jfarrell	could use these in the interface file	03:32
jfarrell	?	03:32
edbian	jfarrell: they're fine where they are.	03:32
oosh	im new to linux.. and ive been noticing that my internet speed is quite laggy when using firefox 4... but with windows it works quite well.. what could be the problem?	03:33
edbian	jfarrell: You don't specify dns in /etc/network/interfaces	03:33
edbian	jfarrell: the /etc/resolv.conf file usually gets filled by dhcp	03:33
jfarrell	<sacarlson> jfarrell: then you can modify /etc/network/interfaces and define your ubuntu box to be static, it needs 3 values assinged an ip, a gateway and dns address	03:33
jfarrell	^^	03:33
loctrice	oosh: chrome is insanely fast	03:33
jfarrell	dns address	03:33
Meshezabeel	well heck, I'll just copy the files I need to my ubuntu partition from within gnome, thanks for trying edbian and barack_osama-	03:33
sacarlson	jfarrell: sure that works so just leave it	03:33
edbian	Meshezabeel: strange! :D	03:33
edbian	jfarrell: Meshezabeel I believe it's address, netmask, and gateway (not DNS)	03:34
oosh	im new to linux.. and ive been noticing that my internet speed is quite laggy when using firefox 4... but with windows it works quite well.. what could be the problem?/	03:34
jfarrell	edbian, current interfaces file - http://pastebin.com/UfkdtA1R	03:34
oosh	my downloads are laggy as well	03:34
barack_osama-	oosh is it on the same PC or is Linux on another PC?	03:34
oosh	same	03:34
edbian	jfarrell: You didn't add anything yet? Is that on purpose?	03:35
jfarrell	edbian, i have no idea what to add :)	03:35
barack_osama-	oosh so u boot either into windoze or into linux correct?	03:35
oosh	yes	03:35
loctrice	jfarrell: do it from the gui	03:35
jfarrell	loctrice, not an option	03:35
oosh	internet, etc works just fine with windows.. but with linux its laggy	03:35
loctrice	jfarrell: ah, my fault.	03:35
loctrice	oosh: which version of windows, and which version of linux?	03:36
oosh	xubuntu and windows 7	03:36
jfarrell	edbian, goal would be to get this box to be named svn-server, IP 192.168.1.100	03:36
edbian	jfarrell: Something like this: http://pastebin.com/mUbfH0ZB I guessed at the IPs	03:36
barack_osama-	oosh maybe u have big ass update being downloaded if u just installed linux an hour ago	03:36
oosh	no no	03:36
guampa	anyone knows where to get the gallium driver for radeon? tried xorg-edgers ppa but still have classic mesa	03:36
oosh	my updates are current	03:36
loctrice	I don't know anything about xubuntu. I know kubuntu was not very good imo when I tried it	03:37
edbian	jfarrell: In order for the machine to respond to 'svn-server' you'd need a local DNS server or to manually edit every /etc/hosts file on every other machine.	03:37
oosh	its just a gui of xfce on top of ubuntu	03:37
mrdeb	what is	03:37
sacarlson	oosh: you might try change your MTU setting and see if that makes any improvment in your network performance http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html	03:37
oosh	xubuntu	03:37
edbian	xubuntu kubuntu	03:37
edbian	they're just ubuntu with a different gui	03:37
mrdeb	ok	03:37
jfarrell	edbian, ok got the changes	03:38
mrdeb	gnome works fine for ubuntu	03:38
jfarrell	for the hell of it, i am going to restart	03:38
loctrice	gnome da bomb	03:38
edbian	jfarrell: Try it out. Save the file and sudo service network restart	03:38
edbian	jfarrell: That'll have the same affect	03:38
mrdeb	gnome jhas good features for moving windows, resizing., and it's just as quick almost	03:38
centHOGG	xubuntu = laptop	03:38
oosh	thanks	03:38
oosh	yes	03:38
mister2	anybody find a fix for kslowd00*? i found a forum thread but i didn't see any solutions on it	03:38
oosh	i have a laptop	03:38
mister2	or even know what its from?	03:38
oosh	and xfce is the shit	03:38
loctrice	oosh: it's a laptop?	03:38
FloodBot1	oosh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:38
loctrice	oosh: is it wireless?	03:39
IdleOne	!language	03:39
ubottu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.	03:39
mister2	anybody know if i can kill kslowd?	03:40
jfarrell	edbian, nothing	03:41
edbian	jfarrell: sudo service networking restart	03:41
jfarrell	cant hit it with svn-server or 192.168.1.100	03:41
edbian	jfarrell: and tell me what errors you get :)	03:41
jfarrell	edbian, i rebooted the whole machine	03:41
edbian	jfarrell: and paste.ubuntu.com it here	03:41
edbian	jfarrell: sure but if you run that command and something is wrong you'll see the errors. with a reboot you get nothing!	03:42
mrdeb	is there a way to enable the nice resolution in terminal after installing the closed source graphic driver?	03:42
Meshezabeel	edbian: barack_osama- I am stupid...my terminal was logged into my remote vps server, I thought I was looking at my local machine...guess I have to laugh about it now, but sorry to have bothered you	03:42
edbian	Meshezabeel: You've given me my sanity back.	03:43
barack_osama-	Meshezabeel heh that happens :) especially if u have a bunch of consoles open, I ussualy run hostname at begining if not sure	03:43
edbian	Meshezabeel: :)	03:43
loctrice	Meshezabeel: don't worry, we can all have a laugh. We've all done something along those lines	03:43
jfarrell	edbian, this is on a different machine altogether	03:43
jfarrell	and the machine is not really in that good of shape, externally	03:44
Meshezabeel	edbian: barack_osama- loctrice haha, thanks, have a good night	03:44
jfarrell	mouse doesnt work, so this is going to be quite the effort	03:44
Meshezabeel	(or day or whatever)	03:44
edbian	jfarrell: I can do everything cli with you so mouse is not needed. Can you run commands on it?	03:44
edbian	Meshezabeel: good night :)	03:44
Zealous	i downloaded and installed the bisigi project and when i aptitude the theme i get "sudo: aptitude: command not found	03:44
jfarrell	edbian, yes	03:45
jfarrell	ran ifconfig, it doesnt even see eth0	03:45
edbian	jfarrell: that's ok. restart networking already! :)	03:45
edbian	jfarrell: sudo service network restart	03:46
jfarrell	edbian, unrecognized service	03:46
loctrice	Zelous: is aptitude installed?	03:46
swim	hey guys, can anybody tell me what they know about ubuntu being compatible with macs??	03:46
massai29	disculpen alguien puede ayudarme	03:47
loctrice	swim: ubuntu has been put on kindle book readers. It can be installed	03:47
edbian	jfarrell: sorry, sudo service networking restart	03:47
jfarrell	restart: unknown instance	03:47
massai29	no puedo instalar unos controladores	03:47
swim	so, as far as anybody knows, is it compatible straight from install??	03:47
lament	swim: i'm running ubuntu on a mac right now, obviously compatibility depends on what model you have, help.ubuntu.com has a guide somewhere	03:47
edbian	jfarrell: sudo service networking stop && sudo service networking start	03:48
Zealous	loctrice: i have aptitude other stuff before which is why i find this weird	03:48
gslack	depends on what u mean by compatable	03:48
lament	massai29: #ubuntu-es	03:48
loctrice	edbian: you can /etc/init.d/networking restart ?	03:48
jfarrell	edbian, same error	03:48
jfarrell	maybe something in the interfaces file?	03:48
massai29	YA BUSQUE AHI	03:49
massai29	Y NO PUEDO	03:49
lament	oh :(	03:49
FloodBot1	massai29: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:49
edbian	loctrice: Isn't the deprecated?	03:49
edbian	jfarrell: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart	03:49
loctrice	edbian: not that I know of... depricated is funny on linux :)	03:49
edbian	jfarrell: I need to restart networking to get a handle on what might be wrong in /etc/network/interfaces but you can pastebin it now to save time. paste.ubuntu.com	03:49
chipmenk	can vlc play files in a windows samba share?	03:49
edbian	loctrice: ok	03:49
edbian	jfarrell: yeah try sudo /etc/init.d/...	03:49
jfarrell	edbian, misplaed option	03:50
centHOGG	chipmenk: no joy there	03:50
massai29	nadie habla español	03:50
swim	gslack i sold my junky acer that i used as backup while on the road, i'm thinking about buying an old junky mac.. obviously i use ubuntu and nothing else (cept crunchbang) i'm looking around to see if i can just straight up install it without having to hack like crazy to make it work	03:50
edbian	jfarrell: misplaed ?	03:50
jfarrell	edbian, misplaced option :)	03:50
edbian	jfarrell: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart really should work. try stop instead of restart	03:51
mister2	anybody know anything about kslowd?	03:51
sacarlson	chipmenk: sure why not	03:51
centHOGG	swim: how much $$$?	03:51
edbian	How do you restart networking in Ubuntu!?!?	03:51
jfarrell	edbian, bare in mind that i already restart the machine	03:51
chipmenk	how?	03:51
jfarrell	*restarted	03:51
jfarrell	before we did any of this	03:51
gslack	swim: I don't think there should be a problem as long as its a pretty standard MAC	03:51
edbian	jfarrell: Again, I know that. I need to see some errors. Can you pastebin that file for me please?	03:51
loctrice	edbian: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart .........it works I did it today even	03:51
sancas	what can i do with ubuntu?	03:51
jfarrell	edbian, its on a seperate machine with no web browser	03:51
edbian	loctrice: That's what I thought.	03:52
swim	centHOGG like maybe 50$	03:52
gslack	I mean no homebuilt or hotrodding	03:52
jfarrell	edbian, give me a second, ill copy it by hand	03:52
centHOGG	kewl	03:52
swim	it's a g4..	03:52
centHOGG	good price	03:52
centHOGG	i think	03:52
edbian	jfarrell: You should install pastebinit (command line that's AWESOME) and pretty much pastebins for you.	03:52
centHOGG	swim: much mileage?	03:52
edbian	jfarrell: It is not long though right?	03:52
swim	well, it's pretty beat up.. which i like... i actually hate buying and using new computers..	03:52
centHOGG	free	03:52
gslack	well might want to check Ubuntu's site for anything specific to it. but id say baring no big issues they list try it and see	03:53
* centHOGG latest mac is imac ruby		03:53
swim	i think i can definetly score it for under 100$ but i'm going to try a little closer to 50$	03:53
centHOGG	hell yeah	03:53
swim	i guess if i have to hack, it's worth it anyways..	03:53
gslack	run the live cd/dvd and try taxing it a bit	03:53
centHOGG	pm me and tell me the details	03:53
jfarrell	edbian, i dont think you understand. I cant get to the other machine with ssh due to the IP problem	03:54
edbian	jfarrell: Ah, ok. sorry to hear that.	03:54
jfarrell	i have to physically roll the chair over to the shelve and read it :)	03:54
jfarrell	http://pastebin.com/RY16HU7f	03:54
DrMorphias	edbian it got me to see grub loading and then it restarted	03:55
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edbian	jfarrell: Don't pastebin me errors like that. It's a waste. Just describe them to me. I need to see the file. Something is wrong in it.	03:55
edbian	DrMorphias: You saw the menu? What option did you choose? What options were there?	03:55
jfarrell	edbian, let me copy it by hand	03:55
jfarrell	one second	03:55
gslack	Anybody having issues with DHCP on a dual boot Ubuntu 10.10 and win 7 setup?	03:56
loctrice	probably a misspelling.	03:56
edbian	jfarrell: take your time.	03:56
DrMorphias	edbian it didnt show the menu. just a blinking cursosor and then grub loading then restart.	03:56
edbian	loctrice: yes	03:56
edbian	DrMorphias: Mmm, I'm not sure. Maybe grub is crashing? If you can't get to the menu I don't know what to tell you	03:56
edbian	DrMorphias: Try resetting the bios?	03:56
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DrMorphias	edbian like take out the bios battery?	03:57
jfarrell	edbian, http://pastebin.com/qjTD9JB1	03:57
loctrice	ace = iface	03:58
edbian	DrMorphias: There usually is an option in the bios to 'reset to factory defaults' taking out the battery is too much work for what you need to do. We just need all the settings reset	03:58
DrMorphias	ok	03:59
gslack	usually also a lil jumper to clear CMOS	03:59
edbian	jfarrell: yep, 'ace lo inet' needs to be 'iface lo inet'	03:59
barack_osama-	yeah it should be on the mobo	03:59
gslack	usually right next to battery	03:59
edbian	jfarrell: Also, put a blank line between loopback and auto eth0. It's not necessary but it's just good form	03:59
zhoule	hello	04:00
zhoule	hello	04:00
zhoule	hello	04:00
FloodBot1	zhoule: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:00
jfarrell	edbian, ok, restart worked that time without any errors	04:00
loctrice	edbian: sorry, couldn't help it	04:00
jfarrell	ssh worked	04:00
gslack	usually the jumper has 3 prongs, sits on two at a time. mine for normal is the first two prongs from left	04:01
jfarrell	still cant hit it with svn-server	04:01
griphown	any is using candidate version ?	04:01
griphown	anybody is using candidate version ?	04:01
edbian	jfarrell: hurray! :)	04:01
gslack	to reset I have to take the jumper and place it on the farthest right two prongs	04:01
jfarrell	edbian, so, everything is working fine, except I cant type svn-server into putty and have it open the connection	04:01
jfarrell	how can we get that?	04:01
edbian	loctrice: couldn't help finding hte error first? You just want all the glory!	04:01
griphown	candidate no have problems ?	04:01
DrMorphias	edbian that didnt work	04:02
edbian	jfarrell: Yeah I told you that before. You need to have a local DNS server if you want to refer to machines on your LAN by hostname.	04:02
Zelozelos	im using easystroke to controll some stuff like switching workspaces, open a terminal, start an animated background via xwinwrap, what would be the terminal command to turn up/down the volume?	04:02
edbian	DrMorphias: I'm not sure then. Sorry! :(	04:02
jfarrell	edbian, roger that, I will look into that tomorrow	04:02
jfarrell	thanks for the help	04:02
edbian	jfarrell: no problem	04:02
loctrice	edbian: lol. glory! I didn't want to step on any tows	04:03
edbian	hahaha	04:03
edbian	no worries	04:03
loctrice	edbian: I was a newb on the forums nd in here for so long, I have been trying to help ppl out when I can	04:03
gslack	got a DHCP issue i was hoping someone could help with. I have a two physical harddrive setup dual booting win7 and ubuntu 10.10	04:03
edbian	loctrice: We all were at one time.	04:03
edbian	gslack: What's the issue?	04:04
gslack	booting the linux drive and using grub to choose between the two OS's	04:04
loctrice	I helped someone get a destkop earlier. It took me 2 months on debian to get my desktop	04:04
edbian	gslack: still not a problem...	04:05
gslack	anyhoo, I randomly can't get a DHCP from the linux	04:05
edbian	gslack: wired or wifi?	04:05
catito	hi	04:05
gslack	i boot win7 fine, boot linux after and no DHCP	04:05
Zealous	omg i love it how the windows wobble when you move it	04:05
gslack	wired	04:05
loctrice	I learned about vesa, and then learned that I needed the driver for 3d. Then I learned about finch, links, wget, and how to install stuff from source	04:05
catito	how can i install a .bin file?	04:05
gslack	i have tried several fixes so far	04:05
henrique	ola alguem pode me dar uma ajuda?	04:05
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edbian	gslack: what is the output of sudo ifconfig -a ? can you pastebin it for me? paste.ubuntu.com	04:06
edbian	Zealous: It is awesome	04:06
loctrice	catito: chmod it and then run it	04:06
Zealous	catito .bin is a image file unless nix has it's own version	04:06
m4v	!br \| henrique	04:06
ubottu	henrique: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	04:06
henrique	ok, me desculpe.	04:06
catito	loctrice, Zelozelos thanks gonna try	04:06
gslack	its very strange, cause its not all the time nor is it showing any errors in the configs.. one sec ill do a fresh one	04:06
edbian	gslack: k	04:06
Zealous	just got a nice background of tux taking a wizz on the windows logo hahaha love it	04:07
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loctrice	Hulu told me to watch videos without squid because they don't support squid or vpn because of contractual issues	04:07
gslack	eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:5a:8e:59:e0	04:07
gslack	inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0	04:07
gslack	inet6 addr: fe80::204:5aff:fe8e:59e0/64 Scope:Link	04:07
gslack	UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1	04:07
gslack	RX packets:720671 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0	04:07
gslack	TX packets:596331 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1	04:07
FloodBot1	gslack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:07
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catito	-rwxr-xr-x 1 catito catito 84927175 2011-03-31 20:53 jdk-6u24-linux-i586.bin , how can i run it?	04:07
DrMorphias	edbian grub stores logs someplace right? i mean since its grub thats crashing maybe you can help me diagnose the output?	04:07
hurrpdurp	hello	04:07
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Zealous	hio	04:08
hurrpdurp	I'm testing empathy on a vm'd ubuntu	04:08
loctrice	./file	04:08
Zealous	eeeewww what is Tux doing sitting on paris hiltons sholder eeeewwwww	04:08
edbian	DrMorphias: If you could get the output. Are you able to get to the menu? I'm not sure you're even getting shift to activate anything	04:08
loctrice	catito: just type the file name	04:08
hurrpdurp	well good bye	04:09
BahrulHidayat	Hello ???	04:09
jcmarini	how do i get Clamav latest version on 10.04 lucid lynx... nothing so far listed in ubuntu home page	04:09
loctrice	jcmarini: compile the source?	04:09
catito	loctrice, i did ./file-name, and it works!!! thanks	04:10
barack_osama-	jcmarini apt-get install clamav	04:10
barack_osama-	?	04:10
loctrice	barack: the latest version probably won't be in apt	04:10
loctrice	jacmarini: apt-get install clamav	04:11
loctrice	?	04:11
Zelozelos	whats clamav?	04:12
edbian	Zelozelos: anti-virus software.	04:12
sacarlson	Zelozelos: something we no longer need	04:12
barack_osama-	Zelozelos antivirus	04:12
loctrice	jcmarini: compiling from source isn't really that complicated. It's if you have to track down dependancies	04:12
gslack	ok sorry for the delay got a new one saved to text now	04:12
Zelozelos	lol yet another reason i LOVE ubuntu...no virus worries (unless im sharing something w windows)	04:13
edbian	gslack: well where is it?	04:13
edbian	Zelozelos: heck yes!	04:13
gslack	sorry new xchat install	04:13
edbian	gslack: no worries. I'm just eager to see! :)	04:14
loctrice	jcmarini: you can get it from backports, but that means you have to enable backports	04:14
Zelozelos	got some kewll stuff goin on w ubuntu, set up an entire entertainment system controlled via a lappie w compiz, easystroke xwinwrap a big-screen tv, 3d audio by the time im done all ill need is a mouse to controll it all, and maybe some voice commands...havent looked into that yet	04:14
edbian	gslack: Next time just use paste.ubuntu.com	04:14
gslack	ok cool	04:15
gslack	ty	04:15
edbian	gslack: You have 2 wired interfaces? One of them has an IP address. Can you ping 192.168.0.1 ?	04:15
gslack	still getting my handle on IRC.... yeas	04:15
gslack	had to to get a connection on ubuntu	04:15
wangpeng	hi	04:16
wangpeng	haha	04:16
edbian	gslack: The whole problem was that you could not get an address via dhcp? You have an address...	04:16
wangpeng	你们好	04:16
FloodBot1	wangpeng: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:16
royale1223	My networkmanager is disabled. How do I fix it?	04:16
j_duck2000	hi all	04:16
gslack	right now its working just fine but if i log into win7 and back into linux i have to reset my router	04:16
wangpeng	who are you	04:16
gslack	thats the problem, i can't get one after win7 runs	04:16
gslack	unless I restart my router via unplugging	04:17
Zealous	no more windows 7 hahaha fixed hahaha	04:17
gslack	lol zealous	04:17
edbian	gslack: can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of sudo lspci -k ?	04:17
gslack	kids would die without there games	04:17
Zealous	sorry i had to say something	04:17
gslack	k	04:17
royale1223	Edbian: hi	04:17
loctrice	gslack: you can play games on linux	04:17
Zealous	but that is strange tho	04:17
edbian	royale1223: Oh hello	04:17
Zelozelos	gslack wine is comming along quite nicely as well	04:18
edbian	gslack: If they don't like linux I'm not sure you wanna keep them anyway...	04:18
loctrice	lol@edbian	04:18
loctrice	gslack: are you the network admin?	04:18
royale1223	Edbian: i have a problem with network man. Can u help me?	04:19
edbian	royale1223: What's the problem?	04:19
Zealous	only thing i can think of is a bad router as both OS should ask for the details on connect	04:19
royale1223	Edbian: it isnt running after an update. I think i didnt restart the pc properly.	04:19
loctrice	gslack: are the computer names the same in the two os's, and do you have dchp reservations?	04:20
edbian	Zealous: I'm willing to bet unloading the module before shutting down linux will fix the problem.	04:20
Zealous	:)	04:20
edbian	royale1223: what if you do this: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart	04:20
gslack	paste.ubuntu.com	04:20
mister2	make throws up this error	04:20
edbian	gslack: I need the full link	04:20
mister2	hm	04:20
mister2	http://pastebin.com/fNGgx4hM	04:21
mister2	ah, that one	04:21
gslack	file:///home/greg/Desktop/gslacks%20lspc	04:21
gslack	crap wht the hell am i doing?	04:21
gslack	lol	04:21
edbian	gslack: haha, good question	04:21
royale1223	Edbian: reconfiguring network interfaces. But still doesnt work	04:21
edbian	gslack: put the stuff in the text box. press paste, give me the link to the new page generated	04:22
Zealous	hhmm i don't like to ask this but girls i know use msn for cam chat and my laptop is now a nixtap so could i still use the msn proacal and use the inbuilt web cam too	04:22
mister2	okay, so make throws up this error http://pastebin.com/fNGgx4hM when i try to run make from pianobarfly's directory	04:22
gslack	/home/greg/Desktop/gslacks lspci	04:22
edbian	royale1223: can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces (paste.ubuntu.com)	04:22
gslack	file:///home/greg/Desktop/gslacks%20lspci	04:22
Zealous	coffee time brb	04:22
gslack	got it	04:22
gslack	dam	04:22
edbian	gslack: but I don't have a link...	04:22
gslack	shows a link on my end	04:22
edbian	gslack: go here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ run the command in a terminal, copy and paste, press paste button, give me a URL. http://...	04:23
edbian	gslack: You pasted file:/// which is not a file I can get to	04:23
edbian	gslack: sudo lspci -k in case you forgot	04:24
kdog	I've got a USB2.0 drive that I would like to backup my laptop to. What ubuntu apps are recommended? I'm rather fond of backuppc, but would like a GUI option.	04:24
gslack	ok done	04:24
loctrice	mister2: http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/drm/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=17	04:24
edbian	gslack: Now give me the link to that website	04:24
acerimmer	Zealous: gwibber shows msn chat client, so I presume it's functional for chat. IDK about the cam, though...	04:24
sacarlson	kdog: rsync would be one method and I think there is a gui for it not sure of the name	04:25
gslack	http://paste.ubuntu.com/588090/	04:25
royale1223	Edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588091/	04:25
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mister2	@loctrice ...? Dream? and windows? i'm ubuntu 10.10 i'm pretty sure	04:25
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gslack	sorry for the learning curve here just find that as i get better in nix i have to adapt to new forms of help..used to be easier lol	04:26
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crackguy	can I install ubuntu server package on ubuntu or do I need to install one seperately?	04:26
loctrice	mister2: look towards the bottom. it tells which c++ lib will get you that	04:26
kdog	sacarlson: back in time maybe?	04:26
loctrice	mister2: c++ doesn't really care which os you are in :P	04:26
royale1223	Edbian: by the way, i'm trying to connect via mobile broadband.	04:26
sacarlson	kdog: seems to be many frunt end gui for rsync http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/rsyncweb.htm	04:27
edbian	royale1223: what does this output? sudo ifconfig -a (just tell me the interfaces no need to pastebin)	04:27
edbian	gslack: reading...	04:27
gslack	k thanks btw	04:27
mister2	loctrice: i don't really know enough c++ to figure out what bit relates to me...	04:27
edbian	gslack: Now. to be clear. If you shut down linux and boot windows will you have dhcp or no?	04:27
mister2	or, c++ compliation errors i guess	04:27
royale1223	Eth0, lo and vboxnet 0, none connected	04:28
gslack	windows almost alays just fine	04:28
gslack	a lil bit slow on occasion but other than that no issues	04:28
loctrice	mister2: it's a dependacny issue. I'm having a problem getting back to that post. I'll find it again and see about giving better instructions	04:28
royale1223	Edbian: i want to show you something intresting too	04:28
gslack	the other way tho is a hit and miss	04:28
edbian	royale1223: what is it?	04:29
oosh	hi all.. im hoping someone can help me... ive had xubuntu installed for a few days and my browsing and downloading have been extremely laggy.. Everything works fine in windows 7, so i know its not my internet connection. Is there anything i can do to fix this from the ubuntu end?	04:29
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gslack	one quick point: this did not happen for a year on this router using xp and linux dual boot	04:29
Guest75251	hola!	04:29
edbian	gslack: You should boot into linux with the problem (no dhcp address) and then look at lspci -k and ifconfig -a	04:29
gslack	happened after win7 and sp 1	04:29
centHOGG	oosh: try another distro livecd	04:30
sacarlson	oosh: I suggested try another MTU did you try that?	04:30
oosh	the mtu is fine	04:30
edbian	gslack: I'm not a Microsoft developer. I have no idea	04:30
gslack	ok got ya	04:30
mister2	loctrice: which links did you need? i have both open in firefox	04:30
Guest75251	hay alguien?	04:30
oosh	its at 1500 which is for ethernet	04:30
chalcedony	i'm trying to install znc on ubuntu 10.04. it says to ./configure --enable-tcl - i get an error: error: tcl not found, how do i need to fix that please?	04:30
sacarlson	oosh: what values did you try?	04:30
gslack	lol i can tell ur nice and dint ask for a credit card	04:30
gslack	lol	04:30
loctrice	mister2: what app are you making?	04:31
oosh	its set at 1500... which is default.. i didnt mess with it	04:31
edbian	gslack: :)	04:31
loctrice	mister2: this command I found to get that lib sudo apt-get install libfaad-dev libmad0-dev	04:31
mister2	loctrice: pianobarfly	04:31
gslack	the things is its more a nuissance than anything else. after a router cold reboot its fine	04:31
loctrice	and it's for that error	04:31
loctrice	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515807	04:31
royale1223	Edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588093/	04:32
sacarlson	oosh: you should try 1492 and 576	04:32
mister2	loctrice: sweeeeeet	04:32
randomuser	i'm disabling wifi module sleep by whitelisting the chipset's module in /etc/default/acpi-support. Is this the optimal method for the goal, and will restarting acpid enact the change?	04:32
mister2	i was wondering what i was missing :/	04:32
mister2	thanks!	04:32
edbian	royale1223: whoa. I have never seen that before. It is strange. I have no idea how to interpret it :)	04:32
loctrice	mister2: no problem.	04:32
oosh	why 1492 and 576 specifically?	04:32
Zealous	Is msn messenger usable in ubuntu? i could use other programs it is just the web cam chat i want for the laptop	04:33
sacarlson	oosh: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html	04:33
centHOGG	oosh: try another distro livecd	04:33
gslack	tried one guys fix who had similar issue involving setting mac address in the DHCP client ID. didnt fix a thing	04:33
royale1223	Edbian: maybe a problem with dbus? How do i check?	04:34
oosh	another distro? why? i like xubuntu.. i want to work the kinks out..	04:34
sacarlson	oosh: my one of my router didn't like 1500 with my new ISP not clear to me why, I was told to try another value and it worked for me	04:34
centHOGG	if another distro works then you know it WORKS	04:34
gslack	allright logging off and going to try to get the error again (its random) and when i get it ill save the info and paste it thx again for the help	04:34
edbian	royale1223: I don't know :(	04:34
oosh	sacarlson: 1492 is for firewire...	04:35
loctrice	edbian: sudo aptitude remove connman from : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594566	04:35
loctrice	try that?	04:35
mister2	loctrice: so i found the readme ._.	04:35
randomuser	oosh, a 1492 MTU is used because a 1500 MTU is the standards max and the extra byte leaves your router some room for NAT	04:36
loctrice	lol@mister2	04:36
Zealous	i downloaded supertux and the ext is .package and the site has no instructions	04:36
barack_osama-	Zealous try chmod a+x .package	04:36
barack_osama-	then ./sampple.package	04:36
Zealous	danka	04:36
oosh	so why isnt 1492 the default setting then?	04:36
IdleOne	why not just sudo apt-get install supertux ?	04:37
Zealous	i could do that too, force of habit of download setup files :P	04:37
barack_osama-	btw what is supertux :D	04:37
randomuser	oosh, i don't set the default settings.	04:37
Zealous	it is super mario version but with tux	04:37
barack_osama-	aaa ok I think I played it	04:37
oosh	i know... but it seems strange that we should need to reconfigure these networking settings	04:38
mister2	question: what libmao should i use for 10.10?	04:38
royale1223	Loctrice: hi	04:38
sacarlson	oosh: I guess my ISP uses IEEE 802.3 http://www.danzig.us/tcp-ip-lab/ibm-tutorial/3376c28.html	04:38
mister2	*libmad	04:38
loctrice	the "latest" one in apt?	04:38
mister2	yeah but there's a bunch...	04:38
royale1223	!info connman	04:38
ubottu	connman (source: connman): Intel Connection Manager daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.55-0ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 145 kB, installed size 508 kB	04:39
loctrice	hang one, let me look in my apt	04:39
loctrice	you'll want libmad0 and the -dev file for make	04:39
oosh	should i reboot after i change the settings?	04:39
loctrice	ocaml is another language extension, which you shouldn't need	04:40
royale1223	Loctrice: hi	04:40
loctrice	royale: hi	04:40
sacarlson	oosh: if the change is seen in ifconfig it should already be active in that state	04:40
mister2	loctrice: and what are pthreads and taglib?	04:40
mister2	i see no installation candidates on apt	04:41
mister2	(by hitting tab)	04:41
sancas	jey!! what can i use for download music??	04:41
loctrice	open up synaptic and search for it. it will install any other stuffs you need with it	04:41
centHOGG	jey!!	04:42
Wicked	anyone know of a easy way to update vlc in 10.04? its using a old version	04:42
loctrice	I'm not sure offhand what pthreads and taglib is	04:42
mister2	loctrice: kk	04:42
Zealous	fail: could not find "simple DirectMedua layer mixer (SDL_mixer)	04:42
Zelozelos	Wicked try the vlc site	04:42
Firefishe	What is a good, secure ident server to run for irc?	04:42
Zealous	i just installed it not long ago worked fine	04:42
Wicked	Zelozelos, they suggest using backports	04:42
kdog	anyone have a recommendation for ripping "streaming optimized" DVD movies to put on my forked-daapd server?	04:42
oosh	ok its been changed to 1492.. and its active.. but no noticable diff in the lagginess of firefox and transmission...	04:42
loctrice	Zelous: you need to install the sdl libs	04:42
Wicked	http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html	04:42
Zealous	cheers loct	04:42
Wicked	which seems like a good way to fubar a bunch of stuff	04:43
anlek	Any reason why my cron isn't running daily? (or at least not that my script is running daily)	04:43
royale1223	Loctrice: can you help me with networkmanager?	04:43
loctrice	wicked: I haven't fubarred anything with backports. I usually recommend installing from source any time you need a more current version of something. What is it you need anyway?	04:43
loctrice	royale: I can try. what is the problem?	04:43
centHOGG	oosh: DOH	04:44
royale1223	Loctrice: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588093/	04:44
oosh	whats doh?	04:44
* centHOGG simpsons		04:44
Wicked	loctrice, well im having issues with vlc and some files..i was seeking help in #videolan but was told to update to latest and if the problem is still there to file a bug report	04:44
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sacarlson	oosh: lagginess? is it a dns problem? test your dns or change it to 8.8.8.8 tools to test dns would be dig	04:44
centHOGG	oosh: try another distro livecd	04:44
randomuser	anlek, is your script in /etc/cron.daily ?	04:44
royale1223	Loctrice: nm is not working. It isnt communicating with dbus. Etc etc	04:44
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Wicked	i see ppa's like https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/vlc	04:45
Wicked	but i tried that one and it wont update vlc	04:45
Zelozelos	Wicked what was the initial issue with the files?	04:45
anlek	randomuser: Yes, and it's got +x and belongs to root	04:45
Wicked	i think because it says maveric	04:45
ZanQdo	what does \; means at the end of a shell line	04:45
oosh	ok thanks for the attempted help... im sure ill be on later if i cant figure it out	04:45
ubuntu	hey i need some help to install grub. So my problem is i have a windows pc that the boot loader crashed and i want to put grub on it from terminal whats the command that i need to do form a live cd	04:45
ZanQdo	why is it needed	04:45
anlek	randomuser: I can run it directly via root and it works, but doesn't seem to run via cron.daily	04:45
Wicked	Zelozelos, long story....vlc refuses to play 1080i content that i capture myself	04:45
Wicked	all other players play it	04:45
Victini`	hi	04:45
randomuser	anlek, redirect the output of the script to a log in /tmp	04:45
Victini`	im wondering how do i see my ip adress on ubuntu	04:46
Wicked	i dont really have time/effort to reitterate the whole problem :)	04:46
Victini`	with terminal	04:46
randomuser	./script > /tmp/scriptlog	04:46
centHOGG	ping	04:46
Zelozelos	Wicked.. cant help there dont even know what a 1080i is	04:46
ubuntu	Victini`, ipconfig	04:46
centHOGG	ipconfig	04:46
anlek	randomuser: via > ?	04:46
* centHOGG buzzed		04:46
raido	Victini`: ifconfig	04:46
loctrice	wicked: install the source package	04:46
anlek	randomuser: But how can I do that via cron.daily?	04:46
sillav	hi... what's the mail icon in the top right of my panel... I used it to connect to pidgin and get on here, but is that all it does?	04:46
ubuntu	hey i need some help to install grub. So my problem is i have a windows pc that the boot loader crashed and i want to put grub on it from terminal whats the command that i need to do form a live cd	04:46
loctrice	royale: I'm looking it up, give me a minute	04:46
Victini`	tried that	04:46
ubuntu	Victini`, you didnt do it right then	04:47
Wicked	loctrice, ?	04:47
Wicked	oh like as in compile	04:47
centHOGG	ifconfig /a	04:47
randomuser	anlek, you might have to do a crontab, i got mixed up. I'm not sure why it wouldn't run, though	04:47
Wicked	i was thinking source-deb	04:47
Victini`	look i port forwed port 80 so i need to know how to enter my internet settings	04:47
loctrice	well, if vlc offers a deb, then use it	04:48
anlek	randomuser: Ok, I'll give it a try... one more question...(one sec)	04:48
loctrice	just remove the apt version first	04:48
sacarlson	ubuntu sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice	04:48
mrdeb	what do you need with vlc	04:48
ubuntu	sacarlson, Thanks do i need internet for the computer	04:48
Victini`	so how do i get in it	04:48
anlek	randomuser: my crontab file says: 25 6* * *roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron \|\| ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) however, /user/sbin doesn't have anacron... any idea why or if this works?	04:48
sacarlson	ubuntu: not to run that command no	04:49
giiker	anybody knows how to kill a screen sessions?	04:49
sillav	Victini`: it's ifconfig -a ... not /a	04:49
anlek	giiker: exit should do it	04:49
loctrice	royale: are you in the wireless group? which hardware are you using?	04:49
giiker	I think screened twice in a remote screen session	04:49
giiker	and can't kill it	04:49
giiker	anlek: just exit?	04:49
sacarlson	ubuntu: make sure you change /dev/sda1 to where your root partition of ubuntu is locate3d	04:49
sillav	Victini`: but unless you've set up your connection to use manual not dhcp, knowing your current ip won't help much	04:49
randomuser	anlek, if there's no anacron, install it. that could be your issue	04:49
anlek	giiker: works for me	04:49
ubuntu	sacarlson, how do i check to see if it mounted	04:50
anlek	randomuser: so that should fix it? Any idea why that was in my crontab?	04:51
loctrice	royale?	04:51
sacarlson	ubuntu: cd into the directory and see if the files you expect to see are there	04:51
Victini`	so what do i do	04:51
royale1223	Loctrice: i'm trying to connect via mobile broadband. Its isnt a problem with wireless or wired. It affects the whole nm. Nothing can be connected. No connections are detected.	04:51
royale1223	Loctrice: yes	04:51
giiker	anlek: YOU R a screen God!! :) I have read the man pages and found nothing about the exit command, although i have used it before but forgot about it! thanks!!	04:51
anlek	giiker: glad I could help ;)	04:52
ubuntu	sacarlson, how do i cd to sda1 like cd sda1 or cd/sda1	04:52
giiker	now, going to split those screens!! :-)	04:52
loctrice	royale1223: you did the connman fix? that's where I came back to	04:52
anlek	randomuser: awesome, looks like it works! thank you so much for your time.	04:52
Zealous	hhmm spt-get can not find SDL_mixer is it under another name?	04:52
ubuntu	sacarlson, the command i use to mnt was sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt	04:52
giiker	I love screen!!!	04:53
sacarlson	ubuntu: you cd to where you mounted it so in that line we mounted to cd /mnt ; ls	04:53
loctrice	Zelouse: it's in libsdl-mixer in apt	04:53
Zealous	aaahhhh this program was wrong then	04:53
xiyazhao	i don't use ubuntu.don't install soft.just play	04:54
ubuntu	sacarlson, ok thanks its mounted properly	04:54
royale1223	Loctrice: no, it didnt	04:54
loctrice	might as well get teh image and flast libsdl to	04:54
randomuser	anlek, it just tells bash to execute all the scripts in cron.daily	04:54
Zealous	sudo apt-get install libsdl-mixer = E: Unable to locat package	04:54
loctrice	royale: read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594566	04:54
royale1223	Loctrice: :(	04:54
loctrice	huh?	04:54
anlek	randomuser: But it's not installed by default?	04:54
ubuntu	sacarlson, ok the drive is sda1 i want to install so the commad is sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda1 right?	04:55
loctrice	royale: sudo aptitude remove connman	04:55
loctrice	royale: but you won't know why if you don't read the thread	04:55
sacarlson	ubuntu: no	04:55
royale1223	Loctrice: okay	04:55
Firefishe	What configuration file determines the sound system balance control (L----R) in Ubuntu 10.04?	04:55
xiyazhao	my ubuntu system is ylmf.	04:55
giiker	anlek: have you notices that when you have like 4 screens open, it gets really slow?! I wonder why 'cause it's just multiple virtual terminals!!	04:55
ubuntu	sacarlson, ok where did i go wrong with the code	04:56
sacarlson	ubuntu: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda note: "/dev/sda NOT /dev/sda1	04:56
anlek	giiker: I usually don't go beyond 2.	04:56
loctrice	Zelous: tab complete in apt after libsdl-mixer	04:56
randomuser	anlek, i guess not. your average ubuntu user isnt using cron.daily, so i suppose it shaves a few kb to leave anacron out	04:56
randomuser	???	04:56
anlek	randomuser: well once again, thank you for your time (and teaching me a thing or two)	04:56
grindcrusher	!firefox	04:57
ubottu	firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins - See also !firefox4	04:57
giiker	anlek: well, I have to, 'cause I ned one for my local terminal, one for my remote ssh and another one for my irssi, :( I still can't understand why! it's just a terminal...	04:58
rcmaehl	!ff4	04:58
ubottu	Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox	04:58
randomuser	anlek, no problem, i dont know much but its nice to share.	04:58
royale1223	Loctrice: i have removed connman. Now do i have to reinstall?	04:58
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Guest57435	Is it normal for gvfs to be running?	04:59
ubuntu	sacarlson, k im going to reboot do i need to do anything else first	04:59
loctrice	royale: reinstall what?	04:59
mister2	loctrice: got one more question for your expert self, why am i getting this? i have pianobar installed (ps you can tell me to ask someone else if you're swamped)	04:59
mister2	oh wait	04:59
mister2	sending links is being anoying	04:59
mister2	http://pastebin.com/TH0kPvWQ	04:59
grindcrusher	ty rcmaehl	04:59
RKyle	Why is it that everytime I log into my Ubuntu 10.04 via ssh it tells me I have 250+ updates but when I run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' it says 5 packages were kept back. What happened to the rest?	05:00
loctrice	mister2: looks like it's looking for the man page for it..... is there a contrib folder in the source directory?	05:00
giiker	wau, first time I hear someone using piano, how is that working out for you mister2	05:01
ubuntu	WHY is everone asking me questions	05:01
SwedeMike	RKyle: use apt-get dist-upgrade	05:01
mister2	giiker: really well, actually	05:01
mister2	giiker: infinite skips is really nice	05:01
mister2	loctrice: yep	05:01
loctrice	mister2: is the pianobar.1 in there?	05:02
psycho_oreos	ubuntu, probably because you're using the default nickname which is the name of the linux distribution?	05:02
mister2	loctrice: nope	05:02
giiker	mister2: I read about a few weeks ago, but haven't had the time to try it, I will tomorrow, wait infinite skips, how?!	05:02
drmorphias	guys, how do i login to my ubuntu installation from a livecd.	05:02
drmorphias	?	05:02
ubuntu	psycho_oreos, ya i thought of that	05:02
mister2	giiker: it just gets a new playlist like you refresh the page :D	05:02
loctrice	mister2: ls /usr/local/share/man/man1 \|grep piano	05:02
Guest57435	Is it normal for gvfs to be running?	05:03
mister2	loctrice: nothing came back	05:03
psycho_oreos	ubuntu, change yer nick to make it less obvious and it might help :)	05:03
giiker	mister2: niiiicee!! I will definistley run this tomorrow, thanx	05:03
loctrice	mister2: did you make clean at any time during this? ./configure before make?	05:03
RKyle	SwedeMike, Thanks!	05:03
mister2	loctrice i did make clean but i didn't ./configure before i made	05:04
mister2	definitely forgot to do that...	05:04
ubuntu	sacarlson, So i installed grub ow do i get it to see my os instalsions	05:04
mister2	./configure then make then make install?	05:04
loctrice	mister2: most install packages with make have a ./configure . You run that to check things like dependancies , etc. it will help you figure out the libs to install	05:04
MTughan	I've got a question about Natty, but I can't seem to find the channel for it. Where should I go?	05:04
drmorphias	how do i login to ubuntu from live cd?	05:04
mister2	loctrice: yeah i was doing it from memory and i'm a little stoned >.>	05:04
loctrice	mister2: you need to make uninstall the pianobar if you didn't configure it	05:04
chipmenk	how do i get vlc to play a file from a samba share?	05:04
mister2	loctrice: i did it from apt-get	05:04
gslack	ok 3 swapping reboots and a puppy linux live DVD session later and still not producing the error	05:05
loctrice	mister2: ok. ./configure the program you are on now, it will list any errors	05:05
psycho_oreos	!natty \| MTughan	05:05
ubottu	MTughan: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.	05:05
MTughan	psycho_oreos: Thanks.	05:05
gslack	i thinks its laughing at me now	05:05
ubuntu	sacarlson, are you still there	05:05
centHOGG	chipmenk: i can get video from a samba share... but not with vlc	05:05
mister2	there's no configure file in the directory with the INSTALL file...	05:05
sacarlson	ubuntu: yes it should have scanned and found all that was bootable	05:05
chipmenk	ok	05:06
ubuntu	sacarlson, thats what i though its just says grub/	05:06
loctrice	mister2: in the dir you are compiling from, run ./configure and see if it runs or you get an error	05:06
chipmenk	so vlc will not play a file from a samba share period	05:06
loctrice	mister2: I've never seen a make without configure options	05:06
drmorphias	hello? i know this is possible because i stumblled into it before. how do i login to ubuntu installation while using a live cd?	05:06
ubuntu	sacarlson, it says GNU GRUB version bla bla blah grub>	05:06
sacarlson	ubuntu it won't as default pick what you want as a default boot you need to select one to boot	05:06
mister2	loctrice: yeah, file not found o.0	05:06
icedtea	drmorphias: you mean login to your hard drive's linux partition?	05:07
drmorphias	icedtea, yes.	05:07
sacarlson	ubuntu: oh then you didn't select the root dir of your ubuntu when you mounted it	05:07
loctrice	ok, make clean and then regardless of what that does recall make	05:07
loctrice	see if make has any errors when it runs	05:07
mister2	loctrice: i don't have recall installed	05:08
sacarlson	ubuntu: you must have mounted your windows partiton? /dev/sda1?	05:08
mister2	loctrice: i'll grab it in a sec	05:08
loctrice	mister2: recall = execute make again	05:08
loctrice	sorry	05:08
mister2	loctrice: ah... kk	05:08
royale1223	Loctrice: no luck still, removed and reinstalled conman, then restarted.	05:09
sacarlson	ubuntu: you must have mounted your windows partiton? /dev/sda1?	05:09
drmorphias	icedtea, it was ch... something	05:09
mister2	loctrice: ran make with some warnings but no errors	05:09
icedtea	drmorphias: first mount the partition, then chroot into it	05:09
icedtea	drmorphias: you'll need to be root	05:09
drmorphias	icedtea, lol thats the one. thanks	05:09
icedtea	drmorphias: np	05:09
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loctrice	jcmarini: later	05:10
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loctrice	royale: I lost that forum thread. You reinstalled it? (you shouldn't have to reboot)	05:10
Zealous	Woo i got supertux working hahahahaha Jump Tux Jump!!!!!	05:11
lucidium	i'm having a problem with the installation of 10.10... the installer freezes at the update-grub step. is it a problem with the hard drives?	05:11
loctrice	mister2: what were the warnings?	05:11
royale1223	Loctrice: it showed restart to complete update option	05:11
mister2	src/ui.c:675: warning: ignoring return value of ‘write’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result	05:12
loctrice	lucidium: that's actually a common issue with the installer for 10.10	05:12
mister2	several of those	05:12
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loctrice	royale: remove it and then restart the networking	05:12
lucidium	loctrice, has there been any fixes? or a workaround I could try?	05:12
loctrice	mister2: those warnings are ok. make install again?	05:12
royale1223	Loctrice: okay	05:12
loctrice	lucidium: new disk is what I ended up doing. You can reattempt until it works, that's what I did at first	05:13
mister2	loctrice: cannot stat...	05:13
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loctrice	mister2: you used apt to install the piano bar right?	05:14
mister2	loctrice: yep	05:14
mister2	loctrice: should i install pianobarfly wherever pianobar is?	05:14
lucidium	loctrice, any other versions affected?	05:14
mister2	and idk where that would be...	05:14
royale1223	Loctrice: done, what next?	05:14
zetoh	ubuntu 11.04 beta 1 was released, if i install it , will i be able to install sun java jdk, netbeans and virtualbox in it ( ubuntu =host , windows =guest) ?	05:14
loctrice	royale: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart	05:15
royale1223	Loctrice: done	05:15
loctrice	mister2: it's just looking for the man page. apt should have installed it	05:15
mister2	there is a man page	05:15
loctrice	lucidium: 10.10 is the only one I know of.	05:15
mister2	loctrice: i can man pianobar	05:15
loctrice	mister2: where?	05:15
lucidium	loctrice, thanks for the help.	05:15
mister2	loctrice: erm... idk. where do i find it? "whereis"?	05:16
Victini`	hi	05:17
moi	hi	05:17
lucidium	hi	05:17
loctrice	mister2: hang on. we shold just be able to make a link to it	05:17
Victini`	im trying to save something in /opt which is httpd.conf but it will not let me how do i make it let me	05:17
lucidium	Victini`, are you root?	05:18
loctrice	mister2: do you have anything in /usr/local/share/man/man1?	05:18
moi	only speak english ?	05:18
mister2	loctrice: nope	05:18
loctrice	mister2: pfft... wonder why it's looking for a dang manpage anyway	05:18
Victini`	yeah	05:18
lucidium	Victini`, is it mounted on a read-only partition?	05:18
Victini`	yes	05:19
royale1223	Loctrice: restarted networking..	05:19
lucidium	Victini`, do mount -o remount,rw /opt	05:19
Victini`	how do i let it allow me to save it	05:19
moi	where i found a chan for french?	05:19
nmvictor	WOW! The kernel to be released in BSD license, isnt that threatening. Especially when Microsoft CEO talks of the move as something that would save their company[http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/46242-linux-kernel-to-be-released-under-bsd-licence], the BSD license permit the use of the kernel in a propiertary software with no much ado	05:19
lucidium	Victini`, if the partition is /opt	05:19
draven_sol	is swap needed if i have enough ram for my processes?	05:19
loctrice	royale: you find any networks?	05:19
ZanQdo	!french	05:19
lucidium	Victini`, otherwise replace /opt with the partition	05:19
ubottu	Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.	05:19
BlackWeb	Hey does anyone know about networking with Ubuntu, The Problem I'm running into is when i share it then if i dont give guest acess to the share then it wont allow me to view it on other computer even after i enter the username and password	05:19
moi	yes and neew for IRC	05:20
royale1223	Loctrice: it says nm not running	05:20
zmbi	swap is not needed, but handy	05:20
Victini`	whats partiton	05:20
lucidium	Victini`, did you manually set the partitions when you installed? if not, then forget all those steps	05:20
Victini`	i don't know dad installed it	05:21
lucidium	Victini`, and if not, what exactly is the error message?	05:21
nmvictor	draven_sol: If you are not that much a user of you memory, but if you are into stuff that would call for memory, swap is important	05:21
Victini`	premission denied	05:21
Victini`	when trying to save as	05:21
loctrice	royale: install the manager again , you can't get the older version if you don't have the internet for synaptic.	05:21
lucidium	Victini`, what program are you using?	05:21
draven_sol	nmvictor, it's for a server install running media serving, backups etc	05:21
mister2	loctrice: where are the other man pages? maybe i can copy the pianobar one over?	05:22
Victini`	xampp	05:22
loctrice	royale: this is beyond me for the time I have left tonight. I'm sorry I'll have to research it more	05:22
royale1223	Loctrice: i have the deb file.	05:22
david430	Attempting to set firestarter in startup applications getting error user must have root access to enable program have set user to administrator ubuntu 10.10	05:22
BlackWeb	Has anyone done any networking with ubuntu	05:22
zmbi	then use it	05:22
loctrice	mister2: I'm looking for them still	05:22
lucidium	Victini`, no, the editor	05:22
royale1223	Loctrice: how can i contact you?	05:22
Victini`	text editor	05:22
Victini`	gedit	05:22
BlackWeb	david430 do you have root access	05:22
david430	how do i set root access?	05:23
loctrice	I have no idea how to pm	05:23
loctrice	heh	05:23
lucidium	Victini`, ah. that's the problem. it's not run by root by default, so you need to start gedit through the terminal	05:23
BlackWeb	do you have the root password	05:23
joshmc	david430: firewall rules would seem to require root access. use `gksudo firestarter` or w/e the name is.	05:23
Victini`	how	05:23
lucidium	Victini`, in the terminal use "sudo gedit"	05:23
lucidium	Victini`, that will let you run gedit with unlimited permissions	05:23
rcmaehl	What about that 11.04	05:24
rcmaehl	What's new	05:24
joshmc	david430: as a rule of thumb, to start graphical apps as root prepend gksudo to the app. Just remember, with great power comes great responsibility.	05:24
rww	rcmaehl: ask #ubuntu+1 ;)	05:24
lucidium	joshmc, my bad. thank you.	05:24
loctrice	mister2: you can try to just stick a mock file in there. I don't know what make is looking for though	05:24
lucidium	Victini`, my apologies, use "gksudo gedit" instead	05:24
david430	ty will attempt	05:25
moi	OK i go!	05:25
joshmc	lucidium: not a problem! I dont mind sudo but it's from a F2 prompt or something it wont go nowhere ^_^;	05:25
Victini`	no that worked thanks	05:25
BlackWeb	I'm running into a problem when i create shares on my computer unless i give guest access to folder then it wont allow me to login even after i enter username and password	05:25
BlackWeb	any ideas	05:25
Victini`	sudo gedit worked	05:25
loctrice	mister2: what about /usr/local/man/man1	05:25
rich_	g	05:25
lucidium	Victini`, it did? well then never mind. Try again, and tell me if there's any more problems.	05:26
randomuser	is ubuntu's keyring implementation as effed as I suspect? I just had to manually delete a user's keyring when their keyring password was reset to something unknown, nothing but minor updates and a reboot to cause it	05:26
nmvictor	draven_sol: in that case, keep the swap but how much memory have you?	05:26
draven_sol	nmvictor, 4gb	05:27
loctrice	mister2: got it. are you able to man pianobar?	05:28
david430	that did the trick thanks	05:28
leagris	rcmaehl, Ubuntu 11.04 will be called Coy Carp and be available on 5"¼ floppy disk with kernel 1.0 for your retro computing enjoyment.	05:28
loctrice	you still there mister2?	05:29
david430	had an old pc with crashed windows put ubuntu on it to get it working again first time user having loads of fun with it C:	05:29
rcmaehl	leagris: ROFL	05:30
rcmaehl	SysInfo: Linux 2.6.35-28-generic \| Dual AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1000.000 MHz \| Bogomips: 4007.54 \| Mem: 1698/2512M [\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|] \| Diskspace: 170.73G Free: 120.88G \| Procs: 188 \| Uptime: 9 hrs 48 mins 55 secs \| Load: 0.06 0.16 0.22 \| Screen: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2) @ 1280x1024 (32 bpp) Corespeed: \| eth0: In: 1012.31M Out: 76.83M	05:30
rcmaehl	Sensors: HDD:	05:30
rcmaehl	leagris: ^	05:30
david430	is there a good antivirus for ubuntu or does it even really need one?	05:30
rcmaehl	david430: there are but they're not free and designed for servers	05:31
loctrice	david: it really doesn't need one. You have certain responsibilities when you admin a machine, but rootkits are your biggest worry if that	05:31
verin_	Подскажите русский канал, #ubuntu-ru	05:31
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loctrice	mister2: I'm pretty sure all you need to do is make sure that directory path exists. /usr/local/share/man/man1 and try running the make again. I believe it's going to use that path to put the pianobar.1 in. If it fails you can go to that path and pipe man pianobar into a file called pianobar.1	05:33
loctrice	Im going to bed everyone. gnite	05:33
castle``	hi, running ubuntu 10.04, trying to play a full screen game but the aspect ratio is wrong. my laptop is 16:10 and the game is 4:3, does anyone know how to adjust the ratio?	05:36
dublisk	16:10 ??	05:36
lucidium	castle``, set the resolution in the game to something 16:10	05:36
castle``	16:9*	05:37
castle``	the game doesn't have an option to adjust it, i thought maybe there was an xorg fix or something	05:37
lucidium	castle``, fullscreen apps set the resolution independently	05:37
rcmaehl	http://uni.xkcd.com/ you guys might find this interesting	05:37
castle``	lucidium, ok i'm going to talk to the devs and figure it out, thank you	05:38
Athen	curious, has anybody running 9.10 had problems when updating to the 2.6.31-23 kernel?	05:42
mute	Hey guys. I need an alternative to skype for a video call on account of the fact that it won't sign in and I have no idea why.	05:44
dharma	hi i need serious help	05:44
dharma	with a file issue in ubuntu heron	05:45
dharma	can anyone help with a shortcut issue?	05:47
madprops	dharma: fire away	05:48
aStewartS90	Hi, can someone walk me through removing past kernel versioning from the Grub 1.98 boot menu? I am a major newbie, so please explain this like I am 2 years old.	05:48
dharma	ok i had some files i was moving around back and forth, possibly dragging and dropping at times, but probably cutting and pasting... and the original files belonging to the shortcuts disappeared :\|	05:48
BlackWeb	aStewart sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst	05:48
dharma	is it possible to recover them? i have no idea where they are, they are just gone and i have empty shortcuts with no file to go with them	05:49
dharma	it's ubuntu heron	05:49
mister2	how do i make a link from a executable to my /bin?	05:50
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BlackWeb	ln -s /bin	05:50
DrkCodeman	why doesn't conocial offer its cd's in LTS? only the latest and buggiest?	05:50
dublisk	cant you download it ?	05:51
JohnTeddy	I have a few backups with music and pictures... My directories are a bit messy. What is good software to use that will analyze files over 1 meg, and delete duplicates.. so I can start to clean up a bit?	05:51
JohnTeddy	It's easier to clean up once I've deleted duplicates.	05:51
dharma	so i had a lot of files on my desktop, some were shortcuts, i cut/pasted them into "All Desktop" and some of the shortcuts may have gotten pasted into the file with the original	05:51
dharma	omg	05:51
dharma	did the shortcut overwrite the originals??	05:51
dharma	because i changed the shortcut name to the file name? thinking the computer knew, like in windows, that it was not the original but a new file the shortcut	05:52
Firefishe	Where does ubuntu 10.04 store the config file for the balance control on the sound system?	05:52
DrkCodeman	of course i can download ubuntu but i would like a official disk i dont see why conocial cant send out LTS disks instead of a broken build	05:52
madprops	dharma: that cant be because the shortcut and the files had different extensions	05:52
dharma	ohhh ok whew	05:53
dharma	so this is recoverable?	05:53
dharma	(in one case, once i found the parent file in a totally different folder, it made the shortcut come back to life as in solid orange vs. these weird graphics right now on the broken shortcuts)	05:53
dharma	the broken shortcuts have a blue machine cogs square icon, a padlock icon, and a square with x (envelope-looking) icon	05:54
madprops	dharma: so you moved some files to another folder and they dissapeared?	05:54
mister2	how do i make a link from a executable to my /bin?	05:55
dharma	yes, i think; or i moved the shortcuts to the parent folder and the parent folders appear to have disappear; only i can't tell where originals were because originals disappeared so i lost track	05:55
dharma	all i know is files are gone, the ones that go with shortcuts now called broken	05:55
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guampa	dharma: you misunderstood a "windows shortcut" with a linux link and dropped the link over the real file?	05:58
draven_sol	i'm trying to create a raid, i rebooted but i keep getting a device busy error. how can i tell what is using the device?	05:58
ruan	draven_sol: is it mounted?	05:58
needhelp1	hey, anyone wana see something cool, check out omgubuntu.co.uk	05:58
icedtea	mister2: huh?	05:58
draven_sol	ruan, no	05:58
needhelp1	their main site looks to be down	05:58
dharma	guampa: possibly, i placed the link possibly mistakenly into the folder that had the file the link pointed to	05:59
madprops	dharma: if it had the same name if would have warned you	05:59
mister2	how do i make a link from an executable to my /bin? so i can run it from terminal	05:59
madprops	it would have*	05:59
dharma	oh	05:59
needhelp1	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk check out their main page	05:59
dharma	madprops: but you said i didn't do anything dangerous because the filenames, by virtue of different filename extension, were not the same, right?	06:00
red2kic	needhelp1: Stop spamming.	06:01
madprops	dharma: you cant have them being named the same	06:01
dharma	madprops: ok one file i just found in the trashbin with all its folders, though it says it's a "link" when i click on it all the files are still there, even though the same link in the folder shows as broken	06:01
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needhelp1	red2kic, sorry, just never seen that before	06:01
dharma	madprops: so did i lose the files permanently?	06:01
dharma	it's down to 3 files i cant find	06:01
dharma	i mean folders	06:01
guampa	if you overwrite the file despite the warning, the file just gets overwritten. original contents are pretty much lost	06:03
madprops	dharma: have you tried searching for the files?	06:03
dharma	oh wait it's 4 folders missing ...	06:03
madprops	try opening a terminal and putting "locate foldername"	06:03
dharma	madprops: i tried for one folder, it cant find it; the others i have not tried yet; i found one in the trash bin that the link opens up the files in the trash bin, but i dont know how to restore it without losing them	06:04
dharma	madprops: ok	06:04
wildc4rd	Anyone tried running AutoCAD on Ubuntu? (under wine)	06:04
xangua	!appdb \| wildc4rd	06:05
ubottu	wildc4rd: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help	06:05
ruan	is there a way to give internet to my phone using my computer?	06:05
dharma	madprops: what are the i forgot what you call them, sorry, after the command	06:07
dharma	arguments	06:07
madprops	dharma: the name of the folder	06:07
madprops	dharma: or file	06:07
wildc4rd	seems like the version I use works well, cheers xangua	06:07
dharma	madprops: what are the arguments to only search in "Documents" and not "Desktop"	06:08
iggy19	My openVPN has stopped working. Error message says the VPN service has failed to start. Would love help fixing it. TIA!	06:08
Horofox	i installed vim on ubuntu and i can't fucking find where vim is	06:08
Horofox	how do i find it?	06:08
Nox33	My HDMI sound output stopped working when I rebooted, I must have done something and forgot how I got it to work. aplay -l shows no devices.. Any guesses? Maybe I'm missing a module in the kernel I modprobed?	06:09
dharma	madprops: it lists hundreds of files inside the folder; i have other folders named the same thing in another folder	06:09
guampa	Horofox: whereis vim	06:09
Firefishe	Horofox: language	06:09
Marcus_123	type vim in the terminal	06:09
Horofox	ty	06:09
usrusrusr	can someone answer a quick question about sharing folder between users on a linux box (not samba related)?	06:09
usrusrusr	I have a minecraft server running in my home directory, but i want to let someone else manage it also - what is the best way to do this?	06:10
dharma	madprops: the folder isnt coming up, that one is one of 4 or 5 lost folders	06:10
usrusrusr	anyone?	06:11
guampa	usrusrusr: the simplest is have the two users in some group common to both	06:11
madprops	dharma: have you tried ubuntus search?	06:11
usrusrusr	so if i have them in the same group - what folder should i use for that	06:11
usrusrusr	ya all the results i get are related to samba folder sharing	06:11
inthepit	hello everyone	06:12
draven_sol	how can i verify what is making a device busy?	06:12
inthepit	have a quick question if anyone is available	06:12
dharma	madprops: ok i found one folder again, i had moved it; it's down to 4 missing folders; i tried the search but it doesn't always work right	06:12
guampa	usrusrusr: minecraft folder i suppose no?	06:12
xangua	!ask \| inthepit	06:12
ubottu	inthepit: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	06:12
dharma	madprops: hold on lemme try search again from browser and terminal	06:12
Horofox	how do i sudo myself to move files using the graphic interface?	06:12
usrusrusr	ya it is	06:13
madprops	Horofox: sudo nautilus	06:13
ruan	Horofox: gksudo nautilus	06:13
ruan	!gksudo	06:13
ubottu	If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	06:13
guampa	usrusrusr: then run in a terminal chgrp <dacommongroup> <dafolder>	06:13
xangua	!gksu \| madprops: Horofox	06:13
ubottu	madprops: Horofox: please see above	06:13
Horofox	ty	06:13
dharma	madprops: ok i found 2 more folders :) lemme keep trying, i forgot where i put them (after this is over i need to get it straight how links work :) )	06:14
inthepit	i cant seem to find a fix online regarding the contact list in empathy closing itself in ubuntu 11.04 beta, i figure it is a compiz issue, anyone know a workaround>	06:14
madprops	xangua: i run it from the terminal so sudo works	06:14
guampa	usrusrusr: you can do it from the folder properties too	06:14
xangua	madprops: how about you read what ubbotu said	06:14
xangua	!natty \| inthepit	06:14
ubottu	inthepit: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.	06:14
guampa	usrusrusr: use the channel	06:15
usrusrusr	guampa: But is there a common area below /home/<username> that things like that are usually kep?	06:15
usrusrusr	kept*	06:15
dharma	madprops: down to one missing folder; i think what happens is when i cut and paste links, it forgets what folder the link represents	06:15
guampa	usrusrusr: not in default install, no	06:16
usrusrusr	guampa: I am just trying to keep my folder tree clean - so i thought there might have been a normal common area	06:17
madprops	dharma: i dont think thats the case	06:17
usrusrusr	guampa: thats fine tho - ill just use the common group thing - thanks	06:17
dharma	madprops: ok	06:17
guampa	youre welcome	06:17
crackguy	can I RDP a Windows machine through Ubuntu?	06:19
iggy19	hey all. I've been reading about openvpn, and I don't think I'm ready to be running it from the command line. I have neen using it from the nm gui, and it's been working for weeks. Now it says the service has failed to start. Is there an easy way to cause openvpn to restart from the command line?	06:20
dharma	madprops: i brought some archives onto this machine from my email, some of which had folders of the same name as the missing folder; but the missing folder was tucked away inside Documents, so i don't think the new folders of same name on Desktop would have overwritten them	06:20
jrwyatt	crackguy install the remote-desktop package	06:21
madprops	dharma: thats good, you just got to keep looking, if it didn't throw any warnings the folder is probably still there	06:22
dharma	madprops: ok, and i don't remember if i got any warnings but i don't recall any when i uncompressed the files but they got uncompressed onto my desktop into folders, not into the Documents folder where LostFolder1 was	06:22
dharma	madprops: the links are in the trash bin and when i click on them they say the target doesn't exist :/	06:24
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icedtea	dharma: the links could be relative to their own location	06:24
pero	i was updating to natty via 'do-release-upgrade' and got to the removing obsolete packages	06:25
pero	where i hit ctrl-c like an idiot and aborted the install script; what should i do now?	06:25
madprops	pero: why did you do that?	06:26
BeyondSora	did u try restart?	06:26
Andorin	Is there a version of 10.04 that can be installed via a flash drive? The .iso I have is the same one I got on its release day, and it's got some odd error at the start whose specifics I cannot recall at the moment, but I was told a while ago that the OS was unbootable from a flash drive.	06:26
pero	restart the OS?	06:26
Andorin	I figure that it may have been fixed by now?	06:26
BeyondSora	try updating again i meant	06:26
pero	i opened up the details and ctrl-c was muscle memory i guess	06:26
pero	tells me 'no new release found'	06:27
xangua	Andorin: use unetbootin or ubuntu usb creator	06:27
Andorin	xangua: Instead of usb-creator-gtk?	06:27
tripelb	Hi Ubbies, I would like an equalizer for my sound. Please advise. (Ub10.04, I lied - sound card OUT, USB powered) --> I found this http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/pulseaudio-system-wide-equalizer-now.html but I'm not sure if it's for me. I am using youtube for wound right now. (dont understand PPA, puseaudio) )	06:27
dharma	icedtea: i'm not sure what you mean, though i feel like i should know what you mean	06:27
xangua	AndrewMC: whatever is called now	06:27
tripelb	I've been asking this for # DAYS now.	06:27
xid	is there a way to view the filesystem as root can on other nixes?	06:28
icedtea	dharma: for instance, a link could point to a file in the current directory, or in folder and file in the current directory	06:28
pero	should i reboot and hope for the best?	06:28
digdug	I updated to 11.04 beta 1 tonight, and it doesn't appear to be using the unity interface; was kind of hoping to try it out	06:29
SN4K3	How do you create a link/shortcut to a file using the terminal?	06:29
xid	since hmmm nm	06:29
xangua	!natty \| digdug	06:29
ubottu	digdug: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.	06:29
Andorin	xangua: Think you meant Andorin. Anyway, System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator (usb-creator-gtk) is what I've been using. Are you telling me to use something else?	06:29
digdug	oh yeah, thanks, xangua	06:30
dharma	icedtea: ok i'll just give specifics, the folder is called Tarot Readings and was in the Documents folder; a Tarot Readings 2 exists in my Documents folder; there may have been a Tarot folder but i can't find that (small chance i tucked Tarot Readings into Tarot)	06:30
guampa	pero: run an apt-get upgrade before	06:30
xangua	Andorin: usb creator, unetbootin, multysystem, the one mentionet at ubuntu.com, lots of ways	06:30
pero	thats a good idea.	06:30
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donri	Since some update, I suspect libc6; locales are broken for me since a day or so	06:31
SN4K3	How do you create a link/shortcut to a file using the terminal?	06:31
pero	ln	06:31
icedtea	dharma: I think the better question should be why are you reading Tarot Readings ;)	06:31
dharma	icedtea: i was hoping that wouldnt' come up :P	06:31
guampa	SN4K3: ln -sv <file> <link>	06:31
SN4K3	thnx	06:32
dharma	icedtea: i do great relationship readings :)	06:32
pero	nothing to update...	06:32
madprops	SN4K3: http://lowfatlinux.com/linux-link-files-ln.html	06:32
icedtea	dharma: so how about my girlfriend and me?	06:32
dharma	icedtea: cept my third eye is resting right now, so i'm avoiding them right now if i can actually :/	06:32
icedtea	dharma: boooooooooo! lol	06:32
dharma	icedtea: they take me a while, as i am very thorough and use 2 different spreads... i know! sorry lol	06:32
Andorin	...okay, here's something else. I insert a CD of 10.04 and tell it to (boot Ubuntu / install Ubuntu). After the Ubuntu loading logo, the screen goes black and nothing else happens.	06:34
dharma	icedtea: i could do a very half-hearted one, that wouldn't stress out my third eye... just the thorough intuitive ones are too much right now until i heal (which better be soon so i can do reiki again too)	06:34
ActionParsnip	Andorin: are you using an nvidia video chip?	06:35
guampa	pero: try "apt-get -f install"	06:35
dharma	icedtea: i will live if i can't find this file, i just have this awesome method where i statistically analyze the readings for patterns	06:35
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Sec, let me find its specs	06:35
ActionParsnip	Guampa: that will need prefixing with sudo	06:35
guampa	thanks ActionParsnip, hes using sudo it seems	06:36
ActionParsnip	Guampa: just checking ;-)	06:36
itsNe	hey! Are there any sendmail guru's on?	06:37
pero	rebooted fine...seems to work	06:38
guampa	itsNe: might try in #ubuntu-server or ##linux	06:38
pero	that command didnt bring up as many packages as i saw in details i dont think	06:38
dharma	do you guys know if these files will be readable on a windows drive? i forgot how that works	06:39
itsNe	thanks :-)	06:39
guampa	pero: don't know what more to recommend apart from running again update/upgrade/dist-upgrade, that should make things consistent	06:39
ActionParsnip	Andorin: add the bootoption: nouveau.blacklist=1 if you are, if not then remove the bootoptions: quiet splash and add: nomodeset	06:39
pero	na its cool; thanks again	06:40
guampa	ok, no problem	06:40
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Here's the specs page http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5035352-5049563.html For graphics it has "ATI Radeon 3000"	06:41
ActionParsnip	Andorin: ok, use the nomodeset route	06:42
Andorin	ActionParsnip: How do I edit boot options? Or should I Google it?	06:42
ashray	hi everybody, whenever I try installing some packages, I am getting the error "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?" . but when i saw the version of my ubuntu, I am surprised to 11.04. I previously installed ubuntu 10.10.	06:43
DaPenguin	Andorin, you'll need to edit the /etc/defaults/grub file	06:44
ashray	*surprised to see	06:44
Andorin	DaPenguin: This being on the CD?	06:44
DaPenguin	Andorin, sorry, just came in, this is the live cd?	06:44
Andorin	DaPenguin: Yes. When I try to boot 10.04 from a live CD, the screen goes black after the loading screen.	06:45
DaPenguin	hmm, haven't used a live cd in a while, but should be an option to change boot options before it actually loads up	06:46
ActionParsnip	Andorin: a quick websearch would have found you this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html try websearching using direction given rather than immediately asking how and you will learn your OS faster :-)	06:46
DaPenguin	or you could do that too :)	06:46
Andorin	ActionParsnip: Sorry, it's been a long and tiring day, and I expected that dropping Ubuntu on this brand new computer would be a piece of cake	06:46
DaPenguin	full OS installs are very rarely a piece of cake, but ubuntu is better than most	06:47
ActionParsnip	Andorin: some chips play nice, some need help	06:47
Kimmen	Andorin: more often than not you need to fiddle with video cards in linux	06:48
donri	locales broke with recent libc upgrade; ideas?	06:48
Kimmen	at least with at/nvidia	06:48
Orborde	My /boot ran out of space, causing a kernel update to fail. I went to Synaptic to remove some old kernels, but the removals also fail. It appears that this is because the old kernels are depended on by a couple of backported module packages, which try to rebuild the initrd file on removal, which fails because /boot is out of space, making it impossible to clear out old kernels from Synaptic.	06:49
icedtea	Orborde: why not just move one of the older vmlinuz's out of /boot and onto a different partition temporarily?	06:50
Orborde	icedtea: I rm'd an old initrd and reran Synaptic. That fixed it. I brought it here because this is a bug.	06:51
mbrochh	would it be possible to hit ctrl+alt+leftarrow and have a cd .. command issued in the terminal?	06:52
guampa	Orborde: you should use launchpad for report bugs	06:52
draven_sol	i'm creating a raid and continuously getting a device or resource busy error. how do i resolve this? the drive it's complaining about is not mounted nor do i see output for it with lsof	06:52
ActionParsnip	Orborde: you could move one of the kernel files from a kernel you want to remove then make a symlink to another file so the package system still thinks it exists but it will be drastically smaller. Run the uninstall. If all is well delete the moved file	06:53
ActionParsnip	Orborde: why have a separate /boot partition?	06:53
foureight84	how do you change midori's default search engine?	06:54
iggy19	ActionParsnip: maybe it's the only cleartext partition on the drive?	06:54
Orborde	ActionParsnip: I think that's how the installer set it up by default. I have a dual-boot Win7/Ubuntu setup, and the Ubuntu part (swap and /) is entirely contained in a LUKS-encrypted LVM.	06:55
Orborde	iggy19: You are correct.	06:55
ActionParsnip	I see. I've only seen this sort of issue come of them, so I avoid	06:56
Orborde	ActionParsnip: Do you have another way of setting up whole disk encryption? I'm open to switching to a better option.	06:57
dharma	icedtea: something is seroiusly wrong, i clicked on another folder with my friend's name on it, it comes up nothing in there; but when i do another search that folder shows things in it from the terminal search	06:58
ActionParsnip	Orborde: never used encryption	06:58
ashray	I have ubuntu 11.04 . whenever I try installing some packages using, "sudo apt-get install" I am getting the error "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?" . How can this issue be solved?	06:59
dharma	icedtea: so if it's lying to me about that folder, maybe it's lying about the other folder?	06:59
ActionParsnip	Orborde: i reinstall a lot and i can't be bothered to mess around with that stuff every time. Simpler times. Plus I have zero tinfoil hats	07:00
rww	ashray: #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support	07:00
DaPenguin	ashray, i'm assuming you've tried the suggested fixes in that msg, correct?	07:00
qwebirc44173	hi	07:00
qwebirc44173	How can I use "pci=noacpi" option in Grub?	07:01
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, add it in /etc/defaults/grub and run an update-grub	07:01
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: yes.. but in which line?	07:01
icedtea	dharma: are you sure the folders are in the same location?	07:02
dharma	madprops, icedtea: my friend says to reboot, that wont make the problem set in more, will it? :P	07:02
qwebirc44173	GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX ?	07:02
voidmage	why does find run on my home directory every day at 2am?	07:02
dharma	icedtea: in the same location as what? um lemme check what terminal said	07:02
guampa	qwebirc44173: if just for one time you can edit a line from the grub boot menu, by pressing "e" and adding the param to the "kernel" line	07:02
ActionParsnip	qwebirc44173: add it next to: quiet splash in /etc/default/grub then run: sudo update-grub	07:02
dharma	icedtea: Vol Vol Readings shows in Documents, but no contents; it comes up in Terminal with contents	07:02
qwebirc44173	guampa: k tks	07:02
qwebirc44173	thanks all	07:02
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, _DEFAULTS	07:02
ashray	DaPenguin: ya i tried running apt-get update which was given in that message. Still it is not working.	07:03
icedtea	dharma: maybe its a permission issue	07:03
dharma	icedtea: it seemed so becaue a padlock icon showed earlier on my broken icons	07:03
dharma	icedtea: just now, the shortcut "Documents" that i deleted from Documents, showed again	07:03
DaPenguin	ashray, so it's an issue with broken repos.	07:03
dharma	icedtea: and then i clicked on it, it errored out and then disappeared again lol	07:03
icedtea	dharma: are you sure you aren't running windows?? ;)	07:04
dharma	icedtea: lol... ok Vol Vol Readings showed up again lol	07:04
dharma	icedtea: maybe someone's in my box messing with me? :P	07:04
icedtea	dharma: sorry, dunno	07:05
dharma	icedtea: my friend demands that i reboot lol	07:05
dharma	icedtea: brb	07:05
icedtea	dharma: K	07:05
voidmage	why does find run on my home directory every day at 2am?	07:07
icedtea	voidmage: probably a cron job	07:07
DaPenguin	voidmage, probably a cron job for it for whatever reason	07:07
icedtea	voidmage: system maintenance	07:07
voidmage	where would i find that?	07:07
icedtea	voidmage: /etc/crontab /etc/cron folders	07:08
icedtea	cron.daily	07:08
leapy0yo	how do i search if a package is installed and how to remove it?	07:12
qwebirc44173	OK the computer does not shutdown after OS . fans keep spinning	07:13
icedtea	leapy0yo: someone might have a better answer but I do 'dpkg --list \| grep packagename"	07:13
icedtea	leapy0yo: to remove, dpkg --remove packagename	07:14
qwebirc44173	When I start ubuntu it shows "ac97 codec read timeout"	07:14
qwebirc44173	but sound work	07:14
qwebirc44173	what does it mean?	07:15
* lemonhall GNOME 3.0 Rescheduled for September 2011 Release		07:15
Vino	Trying to install Squid I get this: "Package squid is not available, but is referred to by another package." ?	07:15
* lemonhall GNOME 3.0 Rescheduled for September 2011 Release Is that a joke????		07:15
DaPenguin	!find \| squid	07:15
ubottu	squid is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable	07:15
qwebirc44173	Vino: try squid3 ?	07:15
DaPenguin	!info \| squid	07:15
ubottu	'squid' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable	07:15
icedtea	qwebirc44173: did you try sudo poweroff?	07:16
sagaci	lemonhall: ask in #gnome	07:16
qwebirc44173	icedtea: yes :(	07:16
abc1234	hey i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and i have no software center	07:16
qwebirc44173	icedtea: and tried to disable acpi	07:16
sagaci	abc1234: it's under Applications	07:16
abc1234	sagaci: no "Applications"	07:16
icedtea	qwebirc44173: weird, but I had one pc that did that too a long time ago	07:17
qwebirc44173	lemonhall: April fools maybe	07:17
DaPenguin	i dunno, apt has always worked for me lol	07:17
abc1234	accesories, internet, office, sound and video	07:17
qwebirc44173	icedtea: do you remember how you fix it?	07:17
qwebirc44173	abc1234: what do you wanna do?	07:17
abc1234	install software	07:17
leapy0yo	how do i renumber a screen instance?	07:18
YankDownUnder	Ubuntu stopped giving away software as of this morning.	07:18
leapy0yo	screen window i mean	07:18
icedtea	qwebirc44173: no, in fact I have a windows xp machine do the same thing. Check the bios power options or somewhere in the bios	07:18
syedomar	how to enable compiz? im using ubuntu beta	07:18
Kimmen	!natty \| syedomar	07:18
ubottu	syedomar: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.	07:18
DaPenguin	YankDownUnder, yeah, forgot to renew my software license. system crashed saying something about a failed UGA check ;)	07:19
YankDownUnder	syedomar, compiz --replace	07:19
syedomar	ok thanks Kimmen	07:19
YankDownUnder	DaPenguin, Send your re-certification money to me. I'll take care of it. That'll be $320 USD, please. :)	07:19
qwebirc44173	icedtea: could be Ubuntu's power saving options?	07:19
abc1234	it's still march here	07:19
YankDownUnder	abc1234, Not for long...hehehehehehehe	07:20
abc1234	anyway, i found the synaptic package manager	07:20
qwebirc44173	syedomar: install compiz fuzion icon	07:20
syedomar	arg	07:20
syedomar	right	07:20
qwebirc44173	then you just switch	07:20
qwebirc44173	:)	07:21
dharma	icedtea: i'm back, i suspect the file is gone but why i don't know, the new files of same name got uncompressed onto the desktop, this folder was in Documents	07:21
qwebirc44173	but you can do it a command like replace ..	07:21
qwebirc44173	cant remember	07:21
DaPenguin	YankDownUnder, nah, think I'll just this cracked version i have sitting around lol	07:21
Vino	okay. so there's a squid package that has 2.0 and is labeled stable, and a squid3 package that's not labeled stable. if i don't want any problems i should go with regular squid right?	07:21
dharma	icedtea: maybe i moved the file; and i do suspect my other problems had to do with permissions, i never read all these linux books i have here	07:21
icedtea	qwebirc44173: it could be sometype of kernel setting not sure	07:21
qwebirc44173	icedtea: or kernel bug?	07:21
dharma	does anyone know the argument to search for a folder but only bring up folder results, not files?	07:21
cgcardona	i just created a user and gave them sudo powers and confirmed that the pub/private keys are working. Now I would like to disable password login. Is that done in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file at PasswordAuthentication no ?	07:21
syedomar	fglrx is better than radeon right?	07:22
qwebirc44173	icedtea: the computer is kinda old.	07:22
icedtea	dharma: you should. I learned a lot from my linux book	07:22
syedomar	for 3D	07:22
abc1234	how do i view available wifi networks?	07:22
icedtea	qwebirc44173: absolutely, but check the bios first	07:22
qwebirc44173	abc1234: click on network manager applet right corner bottom	07:22
DaPenguin	abc1234, couple of ways, network manager probably the easiest	07:22
abc1234	i don't have that	07:22
icedtea	qwebirc44173: play with different bios acpi or apm or whatever options	07:22
dharma	icedtea: i know, i've just been sick for a long time, now freaking out about the radiation coming to u.s.	07:22
qwebirc44173	abc1234: no, right corner top	07:23
qwebirc44173	:P	07:23
abc1234	it's not there either :-P	07:23
abc1234	just the recycling bin	07:23
abc1234	and the clock	07:23
dharma	icedtea: i'd still be on windows if i didn't neglect my machine while i was heartbroken, and have malware make it unusable (til i get the data off it)	07:23
qwebirc44173	abc1234: system preferences network connecitons	07:23
dharma	icedtea: i might just break out my linux book, but it wsa in the moldy room lol... brb	07:24
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icedtea	dharma: I wouldn't be worried about the radiation, probably get more from the microwave ;)	07:24
qwebirc44173	icedtea: btw I tried to disable acpi apm options in bios	07:24
abc1234	that doens't show any avaialble networks	07:24
DaPenguin	actually, you get more from standing outside for 5 minutes lol	07:24
abc1234	also i installed network-manager-gnome but i don't know how to launch it	07:24
YankDownUnder	Apple Magic Mouse. Horrible for radiation. Fries yer liverf.	07:25
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qwebirc44173	abc1234: dude, click Add button	07:25
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abc1234	i have to enter everything manually?	07:25
qwebirc44173	no	07:25
qwebirc44173	abc1234: it's just your applet didnt start. alt+f2 and type nm-applet	07:25
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qwebirc44173	should open.	07:26
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qwebirc44173	Amaranth: enough	07:26
qwebirc44173	:) tks	07:26
dharma	icedtea: we cant trust the EPA (raising radiation safety limits thousands of times), the rad is in the milk now and in rainwater, and there thousands x levels I-131 in the sea by japan	07:26
abc1234	ok that made the icon show up, but when it click it, it says "NetworkManager is not running.."	07:26
qwebirc44173	abc1234: open a terminal and type sudo service network-manager start	07:27
DaPenguin	have you rebooted since installing it?	07:27
dharma	icedtea: and you say not to worry? do you know that thyroid cancer skyrocketed here after chernobyl? and these are 4 reactors (and spent fuel pools) which are leaking 24/7 for weeks now... and into the sea now	07:27
ayecee	dharma: the only safe level of radiation is no radiation, eh?	07:27
greppy	!ot \| dharma	07:27
ubottu	dharma: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	07:27
dharma	icedtea: i mean the water they were using to cool it goes back into the sea	07:27
dharma	icedtea: yes	07:27
dharma	greppy: ok	07:27
qwebirc44173	dharma: stop with offtopic tks	07:27
abc1234	now when i click it says "device not managed" and "device not ready"	07:28
camer0ff	hi, was just wondering if there is a way to run an application on one terminal window, put it to background, then pull it to fg on another terminal window?	07:28
mobius2	greetings, has anyone present gotten an aiptek usb tablet to function in karmic koala?	07:28
greppy	camer0ff: take a look at GNU screen	07:28
qwebirc44173	abc1234: sudo /etc/init.d/networking start	07:28
greppy	camer0ff: you can install it with apt-get install screen	07:28
qwebirc44173	abc1234: your installation is pretty "%$ up	07:29
camer0ff	greppy: thanks, will check it out	07:29
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abc1234	it's ubuntu studio 10.10	07:29
Kimmen	camer0ff: or use tmux or byobu	07:29
mobius2	I am reading the information located at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet but I do not see anything about karmic specifically	07:29
qwebirc44173	abc1234: well, you should use ubuntu desktop edition!	07:29
camer0ff	Kimmen: is there any difference between screen, tmux, and byobu?	07:29
abc1234	Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)	07:29
abc1234	utility, e.g. service networking start	07:29
abc1234	Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an	07:29
abc1234	Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start networking	07:29
FloodBot1	abc1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:29
abc1234	networking stop/waiting	07:29
qwebirc44173	abc1234: try restart	07:30
dharma	icedtea: so i have my nutshell book here	07:30
qwebirc44173	abc1234: and sudo service networking restart	07:30
qwebirc44173	abountu1: you should be using Desktop edition.	07:30
Kimmen	camer0ff: byobu adds a statusbar to screen, tmux is like screen but feels snappier for me =P	07:30
qwebirc44173	..	07:31
camer0ff	Kimmen: ooh... probably could use the status bar if it shows the shortcuts. however, snappier is nice. I will be running over ssh on the net.... so it may narrow the differences between tmux and screen :P	07:32
leapy0yo	how could i remove a set of dpkg packages such that libglib-2.0* all those packages matching that are removed?	07:32
camer0ff	leapy0yo: sudo apt-get purge libglib-2.0* ?	07:32
Kimmen	camer0ff: tmux also has the statusbar but byobus is more customizable. however byobu is a bit more buggy	07:33
leapy0yo	camer0ff, it asks for specific packages	07:33
Kimmen	camer0ff: try them all, there's great guides on the net to get you started =)	07:33
camer0ff	Kimmen: difference in support for tmux against screen?	07:34
camer0ff	leapy0yo: oh :(	07:34
dharma	ok i have the arguments for locate command, just need to be able to form a path	07:34
camer0ff	Kimmen: do you just ^1, ^2 etc between the screens?	07:35
Kimmen	camer0ff: the prefix is different in tmux but yes you use the prefix key-combo then 1, 2, 3 etc. tmux codebase is newer	07:36
chobito01	How can I get hardware acceleration with firefox 4, on 10.10?	07:36
camer0ff	Kimmen: just installed tmux then... do i need to restart applications to start using it?	07:36
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Kimmen	camer0ff: read up on the man page to learn the basic key bindings or read online howto change them to your liking. Then just start tmux and launch something in it	07:37
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chobito01	WebGL works, but witout hardware acceleration, the compositing takes up all the CPU.	07:37
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Kimmen	camer0ff: One big difference between tmux and screen is that you can share your tmux session with multiple "real" terminals so all see the same thing	07:38
zykes-	anyone know if there's an updated backport of libvirt for lucid?	07:38
syedomar	!natty \| syedomar	07:38
ubottu	syedomar, please see my private message	07:38
greppy	Kimmen: you can do that with screen as well.	07:39
Kimmen	greppy: ok, never got that far with screen since I liked tmux better. Just got warnings when trying to attach a session which was already attached elsewhere	07:40
syedomar	thanks	07:40
Kimmen	zykes-: is this something interesting perhaps? https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/kvm-libvirt-lts	07:40
Firefishe	When using chromium-browser, when I x out of it (close by using x-window frame x-button), my entire system crashes.	07:41
qwebirc44173	icedtea: pci amp disabled does not work, pci=noacpi in grub does not work, disabling most services and shutdown does not work. dont know what else I can do....	07:43
qwebirc44173	it wont stop the fans!	07:43
mobius2	I am attempting to install an aiptek tablet to ubuntu karmic.... the instructions I am reading call for a .conf file to be created in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d but karmic does not seem to have this directory... I assume that is because karmic does not use an xorg.conf file ? Can anyone offer any tip on where this directory would reside in Karmic?	07:44
camer0ff	Kimmen: thanks, this is pretty cool... tmux attach'd from my phone to the terminal, and can write stuff in real time	07:44
camer0ff	Kimmen: fancy :D	07:44
Kimmen	camer0ff: ;)	07:44
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: configuration is not usually in /usr/share/	07:45
chobito01	Anyone know anything about FF4 hardware acceleration on 10.10?	07:45
chobito01	Does it work?	07:45
qwebirc44173	chobito01: it should other it wont be there	07:46
qwebirc44173	wouldnt*	07:46
qwebirc44173	chobito01: it should otherwise it wooldnt be there :)	07:46
qwebirc44173	wouldn't	07:46
qwebirc44173	keyboard fail	07:46
dharma	icedtea: aha i dont have permission to view lost + found folder	07:46
qwebirc44173	dharma: of course not	07:46
chobito01	qwebirc44173: Do you have to enable it?	07:46
qwebirc44173	you need to be root	07:46
qwebirc44173	chobito01: yes	07:46
dharma	icedtea: while i take an hour figuring out how to write out a file path	07:46
chobito01	qwebirc44173: How.	07:46
dharma	qwebirc44173: how do i be root?	07:47
qwebirc44173	chobito01: I just enabled in firefox..	07:47
mobius2	Stupendoussteve, I am reading from these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet	07:47
qwebirc44173	dharma: sudo -s	07:47
qwebirc44173	via terminal	07:47
qwebirc44173	or gksudo nautilus	07:47
mobius2	Stupendoussteve, they seemed fairly straight forward, I am simply not finding anything the author is talking about	07:47
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: Interesting... in that case, create the directory it says to	07:47
dharma	qwebirc44173: is that a one time thing you are telling me to do?	07:48
chobito01	qwebirc44173: It's set to on, but it's not on - what could be the problem?	07:48
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: It's odd that you don't have that directory, most of the xorg input packages put files there	07:49
chobito01	Typing in about:support in the navigation bar shows that hardware acceleration is actually off.	07:49
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: Wait, I just noticed... the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is for Maverick	07:49
chobito01	How can I see what the problem is, other than just seeing that it's off.	07:49
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: You said you	07:49
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: you're on Karmic? You need to do the 8.10 - 9.10 instructions	07:50
mobius2	Stupendoussteve, kk	07:50
dharma	qwebirc44173: so do i have to do this each time i log on? i was looking for a file from the file browser, i don't know how to do complicated searches (as in with arguments) from terminal	07:50
qwebirc44173	How can I disable all the power management via CLI	07:50
eoss	hello how to understand how computer work???	07:51
qwebirc44173	dharma: why you want access lost+found	07:51
qwebirc44173	!ubuntu \| eoss	07:51
ubottu	eoss: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com	07:51
dharma	qwebirc44173: i lost a huge folder; the shortcut suddenly points to nothing	07:51
dagon666	im having problems with my software raid, it seems that sometimes not all disks are visible at boot time and the array cannot be assembled. bootdegraded=yes seems not to work	07:52
camer0ff	.	07:53
* mobius2 tried using Windows today and felt like I used to feel when I tried to use Linux.... talk about twilight zone.... :P gave me a huge smile though		07:53
qwebirc44173	!ot \| mobius2	07:54
ubottu	mobius2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	07:54
qwebirc44173	What is the purpose of lost+found folder?	07:54
dagon666	im having problems with my software raid, it seems that sometimes not all disks are visible at boot time and the array cannot be assembled. bootdegraded=yes seems not to work	07:54
dharma	qwebirc44173: something about files that may get lost with crashes and stuff; my folder's not in there anyway	07:55
ayecee	qwebirc44173: when fsck finds file inodes for which it can not find a directory entry, it puts them in lost+found	07:55
ayecee	apparently this was a frequent enough occurence to make a conventional directory for	07:56
qwebirc44173	dharma: create a "lostandfound" folder in your home and then in terminal type sudo cp -r /home/lost+found ~/lostandfound	07:57
qwebirc44173	i think that works	07:57
Technicus	Hello . . . which kernel version does Lcid use?	07:57
ayecee	Technicus: what is Lcid?	07:57
qwebirc44173	dagon666: and forget to chmod -R 755 ~/recovered	07:57
Kimmen	Technicus: 2.6.32-*	07:57
qwebirc44173	dagon666: and forget to chmod -R 755 ~/lostandfound :)	07:57
qwebirc44173	http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=46&topicid=18534	07:57
qwebirc44173	dammit	07:57
dharma	qwebirc44173: why do i need to create a new lost+found when i already have one? and the folder's not in there anyway? (and i'm hungry)	07:57
qwebirc44173	dharma: ........................... lostandfound is an example	07:58
qwebirc44173	...........	07:58
dagon666	qwebirc44173: I was not the author of this question and to be honest I dont care a lot	07:58
dharma	qwebirc44173: ah ok	07:58
qwebirc44173	dagon666: I know. it's mibbit failing	07:58
dharma	qwebirc44173: i'm in nautilus anyway	07:58
qwebirc44173	........	07:58
mlmg317-himts	Hello. I am just wondering if I can recover content of the clipboard in Ubuntu? Can anyone help me?	07:59
DaPenguin	mlmg317-himts, what do you mean by recover?	07:59
mlmg317-himts	I copied something, then I accidently copied something after that - thereby losing what I had originally copied. I'd rather not have to type it all over again ...	07:59
mlmg317-himts	It's like a couple paragraphs worth and very carefully worded ...	07:59
mlmg317-himts	DaPenguin: Thanks - yeah see the two entries I just sent ...	08:00
dharma	qwebirc44173: if i can't find the file in documents or desktop, does that mean it was deleted somehow? or that my permissions still might be off?	08:00
dagon666	I'll try one more time: im having problems with my software raid, it seems that sometimes not all disks are visible at boot time and the array cannot be assembled. bootdegraded=yes seems not to work	08:00
DaPenguin	mlmg317-himts, not that i'm aware of unfortunately	08:00
dharma	qwerbirc44173: i may give up soon for the night though	08:00
qwebirc44173	dharma: dude, if you deleted the files permanently you cant recover them just like tha	08:01
qwebirc44173	you need to run recovering tools	08:01
mlmg317-himts	DaPenguin: Hmm. That's strange. It's like a basic function that you would think would have been developed for Ubuntu ...	08:01
qwebirc44173	i think lost+found is for damaged files	08:01
mithran	hi can someone tell me a good native tool to use for ubuntu, to take ssh/telnet of an appliance and store the logs, term type, , etc?	08:01
qwebirc44173	dont know more.	08:01
mithran	is xshell good?	08:01
ayecee	mlmg317-himts: recovering clipboards? that would be an interesting and rarely used feature, i think	08:01
dharma	qwebird44173: yes i assumed i couldnt recover them, i forgot about recovery tools since i've only used them in windows	08:01
qwebirc44173	mithran: ##linux	08:01
mlmg317-himts	DaPenguin: Windows has an application where you can see all text copied to the "Clipboard" ...	08:02
dharma	qwebirc44173: thanks for the help though	08:02
mlmg317-himts	qwebirc44173: I'm not talking about whole files. I'm simply talking about copied text ...	08:02
ayecee	mlmg317-himts: however, clipboard will only show you the current contents, not the previously, overwritten contents.	08:02
mlmg317-himts	ayecee: Oh - OK. So Ubuntu does not have that function? If so, good to know I guess ...	08:03
qwebirc44173	mlmg317-himts: c'	08:03
qwebirc44173	??	08:03
DaPenguin	mlmg317-himts, the clipboard is really designed as a temporary buffer for content transport, not as a long term storage space	08:03
Eivo	Hi, I hope I'm in the right place. I'm brand new to Ubuntu and I don't know if I did something wrong. I am receiving a message titles "Requires installation of untrusted packages" when I try to install anything from the Ubuntu Software Center. I haven't had this before and was wondering how I could fix it.	08:03
qwebirc44173	mlmg317-himts: I know it's in memory RAM... lol	08:03
qwebirc44173	Eivo: what are you trying to install?	08:03
qwebirc44173	Eivo: it seems you changed the repositories	08:04
mlmg317-himts	DaPenguin: Right - that would make sense ... I just wondered if Ubuntu/Linux has a function like this - because Windows prompts you asking whether or not you want to remove all contents from the Clipboard ...	08:04
Eivo	Well I tried several things, some games but currently Stellarium.	08:04
Ali_ix	hi, i am having some trouble with my onoard intel x4500 vga and new kernels, system crashes during startup right after resolution changes (modesetting or plymouth) and nothing works anymore (mouse, keyboard, services) and screens starts flicking random colored lines or spots. I cant boot with any kernel newer than 2.6.31	08:04
ayecee	mlmg317-himts: i, for one, have nt seen that prompt in windows.	08:04
mlmg317-himts	qwebirc44173: Yeah - you're right. I do love Linux for that reason, that it runs so efficiently ...	08:04
DaPenguin	mlmg317-himts, yeah, not that I know of. that function requires a cache of the clipboard to be made	08:04
mithran	qwebirc44173: any other channel, that would be more appropriate?	08:05
qwebirc44173	mithran: try #ubuntu-server	08:05
mlmg317-himts	ayecee: Hmm. Really? Because I have. Maybe I'm just describing it wrong. DaPenguin describes it when with the term "cache".	08:05
qwebirc44173	archlinux	08:05
qwebirc44173	etc	08:05
DaPenguin	mlmg317-himts, there might be an improved clipboard app out there somewhere, but default install doesn't have it	08:05
Eivo	Not sure how I would have changed them.	08:05
ayecee	mlmg317-himts: it may be something seen in a particular application.	08:06
mlmg317-himts	DaPenguin: Yeah. Could be. OK - not that big of a deal. Just wondered. I'll just have to retype it ...	08:06
mlmg317-himts	DaPenguin: Thanks!	08:06
DaPenguin	np	08:06
qwebirc44173	tired of helping and not get helped	08:06
qwebirc44173	...	08:06
ayecee	qwebirc44173: QQ more	08:07
icedtea	qwebirc44173: it could just be no one in the room knows the answer	08:07
Curly_Q	I would like to show this website and could anyone here offer any advice on a good WYSIWYG on this page? http://www.junauza.com/2008/09/5-best-html-editors-for-linux.html	08:08
qwebirc44173	icedtea: or are too lazy to give some tips	08:08
ayecee	qwebirc44173: or are tired of a whiny bitch whining about it.	08:08
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, u know, insulting people? not the best idea if you want help...	08:09
qwebirc44173	!language \| ayecee	08:09
ubottu	ayecee: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.	08:09
ayecee	told	08:09
alkisg	Suppose I boot 30 clients behind NAT, and all of them run `ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com` simultaneously during their boot process. Is there a chance that ntp.ubuntu.com will consider that a DoS attack, and only respond to 1 client instead of all the 30 clients?	08:09
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: when did I unsult?	08:09
qwebirc44173	I just GOT INSULTED	08:09
dharma	qwebird44173: i'm getting errors now with nautilus	08:09
qwebirc44173	ayecee called me bitch	08:09
ayecee	alkisg: yes, though it would be very rude to set up a network that way.	08:10
dharma	qwebirc44173: "WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported	08:10
dharma	"	08:10
alkisg	ayecee: rude? how? It's part of the standard ubuntu booting process, I didn't do any special configuration	08:10
qwebirc44173	dharma: cant help you im too busy defending myself in #ubuntu	08:10
dharma	qwebirc44173: np	08:10
dharma	i'm hopeless	08:10
ayecee	alkisg: oh, nevermind. ntp.ubuntu.com is probably a round robin configuration.	08:10
ayecee	alkisg: i was imagining some other ntp server.	08:11
alkisg	ayecee: ok, thank you, so I hope this isn't why I'm not getting time sync, looking elsewhere...	08:11
kofi	alkisg: as is pool.ntp.org	08:11
alkisg	kofi: thanks	08:11
dharma	qwebird44173, madprops, icedtea: thank you all, i need to eat and come back to this later	08:11
ferengee	qwebirc44173, what is your question?	08:11
noob	qwebird44173 what is your q?	08:12
qwebirc44173	it's a problem not a question	08:12
kofi	Maybe I could ask a stupid question about access rights: I want a user to have access to specific apache logs. But just get access denied	08:12
ayecee	there is no q, qwebirc44173 is just tired of not getting help after helping so much	08:12
qwebirc44173	after sudo poweroff fans keep spinning	08:12
qwebirc44173	!ot \| ayecee	08:13
ubottu	ayecee: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	08:13
qwebirc44173	or !guidelines	08:13
qwebirc44173	:)	08:13
ayecee	kofi: add the user to the group that owns the apache logs, perhaps	08:13
kofi	I created a group 'foo' whose member are foobar and www-data.	08:14
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ayecee	qwebirc44173: acpi bug, probably depends on your specific hardware. though there may be a fix in newer kernels. it's unlikely.	08:14
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, so the full power off command isn't getting sent to the mobo. probably either a kernel option or just a particularity of your hardware	08:14
ayecee	kofi: is www-data a user or a group?	08:14
Gnea	alkisg: you could also just install ntpd on your bootserver and have them all point to that	08:14
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: if I press power button one time while in BIOS everything shuts down	08:15
qwebirc44173	kernel bug?	08:15
kofi	ayecee: www-data normally is the user or group apache runs under?	08:15
mobius2	Stupendoussteve, are you certain about those instructions? I followed them carefully, and also made certain that the aiptek-input package was installed first.... but I still get a "no sane response" when I do dmesg just checking and thanks for the input	08:15
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, probably, or just the way the default kernel is built	08:15
ayecee	kofi: are the log files owned by foo, or are they owned by www-data?	08:15
alkisg	Gnea: good idea, will probably do that in the future	08:15
Gnea	alkisg: then just have the bootserver keep in sync with pool.ntp.org now and then	08:16
alkisg	Got it	08:16
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, think of it this way, you ever had a universal remote that didn't work your tv all the way? same thing here	08:16
Gnea	alkisg: cheers	08:16
qwebirc44173	no I never had one	08:16
kofi	ayecee: ATM they are even owned by the user himself and the group foo	08:17
ferengee	qwebirc44173, what is your mobo type	08:17
ferengee	qwebirc44173, and do u use apm or acpi	08:17
qwebirc44173	ferengee: old one > amd pc chips m810lmr aka lr-h	08:17
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, in short, google your motherboard and see if #1 it's a known problem and #2 if there's a known fix	08:17
qwebirc44173	ferengee: tried to disable it and enale	08:17
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: already did lol	08:18
ferengee	qwebirc44173, do you have the apm module loaded	08:18
qwebirc44173	i will try another distro	08:18
ayecee	kofi: the user himself is part of group foo, and he still gets access enied?	08:18
qwebirc44173	ferengee: do you want to check the manual?	08:18
qwebirc44173	i can give the pdf link	08:18
ayecee	qwebirc44173: sure, another distro always solves the problem	08:18
qwebirc44173	ayecee: stop with irony	08:18
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, APM support probably isn't included in the default -generic kernel	08:19
kofi	ayecee: foo:x:1003:www-data,fooBar	08:19
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: not in PAE also	08:19
DaPenguin	err, for your mobo anyway	08:19
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, you might need to reroll your own kernel then	08:19
ayecee	qwebirc44173: it's not too late to try another distro, right now.	08:19
ferengee	qwebirc44173, this mobo should support acpi, the current default. But acpi is known to be buggy	08:20
qwebirc44173	ayecee: it's not too late to stop hilighting me	08:20
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: Not certain at all. Are you stuck at Karmic or can you use a newer version? That may help with some issues	08:20
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, or the appropriate modules may even be modprobe-able	08:20
ayecee	kofi: where is that from?	08:20
qwebirc44173	hm	08:20
ayecee	kofi: if that's from /etc/passwd, it's broken. a user can only have one promary group, not two.	08:21
ayecee	kofi: additional groups would come via /etc/groups	08:21
Stupendoussteve	mobius2: Not that it would necessarily, but it looks like later versions use that completely new way of configuring it	08:21
kofi	no /etc/group	08:22
ayecee	qwebirc44173: what other distributions have you considered?	08:22
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, ubuntu treats the kernel a little different than most distros, it uses a barebones init image and modprobes literally EVERYTHING	08:22
ayecee	kofi: has foo logged out and logged in again since the change?	08:23
kofi	jep, have done the chown several times as root then 'su foo' and exit serveral times	08:24
kofi	Here is a paste of how I did: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/363683/	08:25
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qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: must be power saving stuff need to know how to disable it completly	08:26
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, have you tried booting without acpi?	08:27
ayecee	kofi: what is remirpm?	08:27
qwebirc44173	manual of the motherboard http://www.pcchipsusa.com/PCCWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=175&DetailName=Manual&DetailDesc=M810%20%20%28V7.1%29&CategoryID=1&MenuID=82&LanID=2	08:27
kofi	should have been written foorpm ;)	08:27
ayecee	qwebirc44173: it would be more helpful to have the model of the motherboard.	08:27
ayecee	kofi: I guess this is not a paste of the actual commands used then	08:28
qwebirc44173	ayecee: already told. scroll up	08:28
qwebirc44173	ayecee: you are just trying to get a conflict not helping at all	08:28
kofi	I replaced remi -> foo	08:28
kofi	Otherwise exactly the commands used	08:28
ayecee	qwebirc44173: scrolling is hard on my finger. maybe you could just provide the model number for people who are here now instead of then.	08:29
qwebirc44173	ayecee: you were he already	08:29
ayecee	qwebirc44173: my client was here already. I was killing virtual people.	08:29
qwebirc44173	...	08:29
* qwebirc44173 misses /ignore in webchat		08:29
ayecee	guess you'll have to just do it in your head.	08:30
qwebirc44173	./J ubuntu-ops	08:30
ayecee	it's hard work, i know.	08:30
DaPenguin	oh god, it's in a .doc format, excellent linux support here </sarcasm>	08:30
Technicus	In the repositiory, what are linux-backports-modules-* for?	08:31
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, hmm, onboard agp graphics chipset, might be part of the problem...	08:31
ayecee	Technicus: in the case of the wireless ones, they're backports of the wireless modules from later kernel trees. is that what you mean?	08:31
JamesN_	hi how do i install the php=gd package	08:33
JamesN_	i already have php5 installed	08:33
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: how do you explain the fact that power button shuts everything down in BIOS but not in the OS? must be a software problem	08:33
ayecee	JamesN_: is that the correct package name?	08:33
mehdi	can i ask here about H.D.D?	08:33
Technicus	ayecee: I am more interested in -alsa-, because I am trying to use a usb audio interface that is not working well on Mavric but worked just fine on Lucid. It was suggested that I try a the kernel from Lucid on the Mavric install. I am not sure about this because whenever I mess with the kernel it usually ends in catastrophic failure.	08:34
JamesN_	ayecee: php gd	08:34
JamesN_	ayecee: i dunno	08:34
kofi	qwebirc44173: It can also be a problem with your power supply	08:34
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, what do you mean, power button is suspending the os?	08:34
ohsix	.	08:34
ayecee	JamesN_: apt-get install php5-gd	08:34
ohsix	kofi: power buttons in the acpi era aren't directly connected to the power supply	08:34
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: no. when im in bios i press power button and computer shuts down completely	08:34
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: when i try to shutdown from OS it does not	08:35
ayecee	Technicus: using the backports sounds like a good interim step in trying to get it to work then.	08:35
kofi	ohsix: I know but I had a Windows PC (where ACPI is less troubel, cough and fans just continued working after poweroff)	08:35
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, does the actual power button power down the machine?	08:35
ohsix	thats nice	08:35
ayecee	qwebirc44173: that does seem like a software problem. maybe if we had the motherboard model, we could find the bug report on which that had been filed.	08:35
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: yes, it does but after X seconds	08:35
daniel	DaPenguin: Yes, it obviously does - has to be a software problem.	08:36
JamesN_	!info php5-gd	08:36
ubottu	php5-gd (source: php5): GD module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.3 (maverick), package size 33 kB, installed size 152 kB	08:36
qwebirc44173	ayecee: for the second time: amd pc chips m810lmr	08:36
ayecee	qwebirc44173: that is the first time for me. let's see what comes up.	08:36
daniel	I was thinking that it might be a problem with the shutdown command that somehow "only" leads to a suspend/sleep mode, not to a real shutdown	08:37
Technicus	ayecee: I have been at this for days, me an another character, who also has the same device who is going through the same senerio . . . he opted to go back to Lucid, I however did not do a dual install, and have no Lucid to go back to & don't feel like installing Ubuntu again . . .	08:37
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, daniel that's what i'm thinking too	08:37
Technicus	. . . but if it comes to it I will.	08:37
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: thats why I asked how to turn off power saving in UBuntu	08:37
qwebirc44173	using the terminal.	08:37
daniel	I've had entire boot manage files screwed up immediately after a fresh install, so maybe something went wrong.	08:38
Kimmen	qwebirc44173: have you tried RSEIUB and see if it reboots?	08:38
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, you have to boot with the noacpi option	08:38
Technicus	So anyway, what do backports do?	08:38
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: in grub?	08:38
Kimmen	or was it REISUB? =S	08:38
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qwebirc44173	reisub i think	08:39
qwebirc44173	alt+print then reisub right	08:39
ayecee	Technicus: backports are copies of the source from later versions of the kernel into earlier versions of the kernel.	08:39
DaPenguin	yeah, you can put the option in /etc/defaults/grub, and then sudo update-grub and then reboot	08:39
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: already did that	08:39
qwebirc44173	:)	08:39
qwebirc44173	let me paste	08:39
Kimmen	Technicus: backports uses user compiled packages, i.e. fif you compiled alsa for one kernel than install new kernel, alsa backport installs the previously compiled alsa driver for the new kernel	08:39
qwebirc44173	[07:01] <qwebirc44173> How can I use "pci=noacpi" option in Grub?	08:39
qwebirc44173	[07:02] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc44173: add it next to: quiet splash in /etc/default/grub then run: sudo update-grub	08:40
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, don't think you even need the pci= option for that	08:40
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: just "acpi" ?	08:40
qwebirc44173	oops	08:40
qwebirc44173	no acpi	08:40
qwebirc44173	noacpi?	08:40
ayecee	qwebirc44173: maybe acpi=off	08:41
ayecee	noapic would be something different	08:42
Technicus	Kimmen: ayecee: That is what I was kind of thinking, but I just don't entirely understand . . . after the number of times I tryed modifying kernels and completely hosing my system I want to be sure about what I am doing. Are either of you able to direct me to a useful wiki about this?	08:42
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, do you have the kbd power on/off jumper shorted?	08:43
ayecee	qwebirc44173: however, I haven't found a report of that problem with a solution, I'm afraid.	08:43
Blue1	!unity	08:44
ubottu	Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity	08:44
ayecee	Technicus: I'm not sure what you're asking. Backports allow you to use newer code without using a newer kernel.	08:44
ohsix	Kimmen: you mentioned the existing backport packages right	08:44
Kimmen	yup	08:45
Technicus	ayecee: AHH, I was thinking it was a newer kernel with older modules.	08:45
Technicus	ayecee: I'm just not sure what I'n doing anymore.	08:46
Kimmen	Technicus: ohsix: ayecee: it's both, correct me if I'm wrong but backports repo is for new code, backport packages are what I was talking about?	08:46
* sky1 is looking for an user which has experience with the tracking issue software Request Tracker /msg me		08:46
* Technicus decides to take a break.		08:46
kelvinella	hi what is localStorage files?	08:47
kelvinella	i am using ubuntu 8.04 dell version, and recently my chrome start giving me this error	08:47
ayecee	Kimmen: we're referring to backports packages	08:48
kelvinella	If you see this message every time you start AdBlock, please make sure you are not using a file cleaner that also cleans 'localStorage' files.	08:48
kelvinella	how to fix it?	08:49
ayecee	kelvinella: no idea. maybe the chrome adblock developer has a FAQ on this	08:49
Kimmen	ayecee: how to separate them from the user compiled packages that show up as backport packages?	08:49
ayecee	it's not related to the firefox adblock plugin.	08:49
kelvinella	?	08:50
ayecee	kelvinella: the ? is to what?	08:50
ayecee	Kimmen: not sure. do you have a lot of ppa sources, or what?	08:51
solstice	hi .I thought alternate install cd was dropped. but I still see it in the beta 1 list of CD !	08:51
ayecee	solstice: good!	08:51
Kimmen	no but when I had lucid and alsa 1.0.23 compiled from source I installed the alsa backport package for every new kernel, else I got no sound since it reverted to alsa 1.0.something	08:52
kelvinella	which extension is equivalent to adblock plus in ff for chrome?	08:52
solstice	not good! alternate was supposed to be merged into normal install cd.	08:52
Ors	Hi there, I am running Ubuntu Network and unable to switch off the microphone. Anyone could help?	08:52
kofi	Found out my problem: the folder for apache logs itself didn't allow any users outside adm group to list the folder	08:53
ayecee	Kimmen: I see we're no longer talking about backport packages.	08:53
Kimmen	kofi: that's standard	08:53
ayecee	kelvinella: the chrome adblock is the closest thing to adblock plus in ff, but it's not a related project.	08:53
kelvinella	what about adblock plus for chrome?	08:53
ayecee	solstice: source?	08:53
Kimmen	ayecee: probably just me that's confused =)	08:54
ayecee	kelvinella: there is none.	08:54
kofi	Kimmen: Exactly but I wanted to have one user without adm membership to have access to some of the logs	08:54
kelvinella	it is by wladimir palant	08:54
kelvinella	same author for adblock plus in ff	08:54
ayecee	kelvinella: it may be surprising to realize that firefox plugins don't work in chrome, and vice versa	08:54
kelvinella	so which adblock for chrome should i choose there are many	08:55
solstice	ayecee: cnat' remember where i read that	08:55
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ayecee	solstice: oh ok	08:55
qwebirc44173	[08:43] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, do you have the kbd power on/off jumper shorted?	08:56
qwebirc44173	sry did not understand	08:56
solstice	may be it's for next release	08:56
solstice	ayecee: ^	08:56
ayecee	kelvinella: as chrome is not part of the official ubuntu 10.10 install, it's hard to say.	08:56
ayecee	solstice: could be	08:56
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, oh ok, it's a jumper switch on the mobo, jumper JP1 in reference to the manual. was asking if you had it jumpered to on or off.	08:57
ayecee	kelvinella: there may be a chrome-specific irc channel that can provide more detailed help on this	08:57
MK`	What is the minimum size for an ubuntu installation again?	08:57
MK`	was it 10, 15, or 20 GB?	08:57
Kimmen	MK`: far less	08:57
kelvinella	dont know why ff is running slower than chrome in my dell mini9 netbook running dell ubuntu 8.04	08:58
ayecee	15 gb of space is recommended: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements	08:58
ohsix	way way way way less	08:58
kelvinella	ff adblock is good but the browser is slow	08:58
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: is ON short or open?	08:59
qwebirc44173	:p	08:59
kelvinella	chrome is fast browsing webpage but many ads	08:59
MK`	it's an old XP computer, an 80 GB harddrive, of which only about 17 is free heh	08:59
qwebirc44173	kelvinella: there is adblock for chrome.	08:59
Kimmen	that's plenty	08:59
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, it's actually a 3 position swich. short 1-2 it enables it, 2-3 it disables it	08:59
MK`	Last time I defragged there were files left at the end of the drive. Will it move them when I install it over there?	09:00
kelvinella	the adblock for chrome wont memorize the setting	09:00
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, no idea what completely open would do	09:00
kelvinella	i have to re-subscript to fanboy list when i open browser	09:00
ayecee	kelvinella: it does not look like the adblock for chrome is by wladimir palent	09:01
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: oh you mean the keyboard switch..	09:01
qwebirc44173	it's off	09:01
qwebirc44173	in motherboard and bios	09:01
oCean	kelvinella: chrome support @ http://www.google.com/support/chrome/	09:01
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: "Jumper JP1: Keyboard Power On Selector If you enable the keyboard power on feature, you can use hot keys on your keyboard as a power on/off switch for the system."	09:01
ayecee	kelvinella: http://code.google.com/p/adblockforchrome/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#Are_you_the_same_guys_that_made_Adblock_Plus_for_Firefox?	09:02
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, wonder if turning that on would help. just a thought	09:02
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: I could try and then shutdown using the shortcut?	09:03
qwebirc44173	lol :p	09:03
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, you may also consider disabling acpi/apm in the bios	09:05
qwebirc44173	already tried	09:05
qwebirc44173	:(	09:05
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: so in grub I should use acpi=off?	09:05
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, either that or just noacpi. think acpi=off is deprecated but still supported	09:06
bladedu	hello!	09:06
ZanQdo	hi im having problems booting ubuntu 10.10 from usb drive	09:09
ZanQdo	tried with usb-creator	09:09
kelvinella	the ABP works fine in chrome now	09:09
kelvinella	thx guys	09:09
ZanQdo	usb-creator + ui hack = failed	09:10
qwebirc44173	DaPenguin: when i poweroff i hear a click	09:10
ZanQdo	unetbootin = failed	09:10
qwebirc44173	hdd maybe	09:10
ZanQdo	unetbootin + ui edit also failed	09:10
ljsoftnet	is it safe to run Gnome 3 from a usb stick? when i remove the stick, does it go back to the previous desktop?	09:10
ZanQdo	same Boot error	09:10
silvery	Hi. How can I install grub to /boot/grub? I used Ubuntu 10.10 and did sudo grub install /dev/sdb (it's external disk) and as result system installed grub in /grub instead of /boot/grub. Now it returns "grub rescue>" when I'm trying to boot from that HDD.	09:10
DaPenguin	qwebirc44173, probably. that or the power supply	09:10
qwebirc44173	silvery: you want this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT	09:10
qwebirc44173	just follow it it's easy	09:11
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silvery	qwebirc44173 : thanks a lot	09:14
kelvinella	whats new in ubuntu 11.04 ?	09:16
ayecee	kelvinella: the people in #ubuntu+1 will be happy to tell you about it	09:17
qwebirc44173	kelvinella: and watch videos on youtube about natty :)	09:18
qwebirc44173	google etc	09:18
kelvinella	qwebirc44173, ok	09:18
DaPenguin	one of 3 things i don't like about buntu, major upgrade cycle vs simple rolling upgrades	09:20
ljsoftnet	is it safe to run Gnome 3 from a usb stick? when i remove the stick, does it go back to the previous desktop?	09:21
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bazz	i've added a "prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; to my dhclient.conf file, but my resolv.conf never actually gets updated. closest bug report i can find is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/260060 anyone know what this might be and/or a workaround?	09:24
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 260060 in dhcp3 (Ubuntu) "prepend domain-name-servers ignored for ppp0" [Low,Won't fix]	09:24
et_	How do I disable the Session Chooser bar during login?	09:24
bazz	also not sure why that bug was set to Won't Fix without comment	09:24
Stava	Will --encrypt-home work with useradd?	09:25
ikonia	Stava: don't think so	09:25
Cursarion	how long are ubuntu releases supported generally?	09:30
wairu	tem algum brazuc ai?	09:31
Poisonfibre	till Africa is forgotten =s	09:31
DaPenguin	Cursarion, officially it's until the next release iirc, except for the LTS versions	09:31
Starminn	If I'm using a PAE kernel, do I still need the regular kernel for it to work?	09:34
Cursarion	DaPenguin: meaning? Fedora's pace is annoyingly fast (6 months until new major version is released, 12 months until stuff won't update etc. in the old version), is Ubuntu faster?	09:34
ikonia	Cursarion: they are both rolling 6 month distros	09:35
DaPenguin	Cursarion, 6 month release cycle	09:35
ikonia	actually ubuntu isn't a "rolling" distro, sorry, bad wording	09:35
ikonia	they both have a 6month release cycle	09:35
DaPenguin	usually april and october	09:35
apctr	hello all i forgot my root password, so how can i reset it?	09:35
ikonia	apctr: ubuntu does not have a root password	09:35
ikonia	apctr: you use sudo	09:36
Cursarion	is software updateable for older Ubuntus through repos?	09:36
ikonia	Cursarion: if an updated package is available, sure, but that very rarley happens	09:36
Cursarion	so all the repos have specific packages for specific OS versions?	09:36
ikonia	Cursarion: correct	09:36
apctr	ikonia: when i use sudo than it give the error"ser user1 is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/gedit gaurav.c' as root on uce-desktop."	09:37
DaPenguin	Cursarion, if you look at sources.list you'll see version info after the url	09:37
ikonia	apctr: type "id" into a terminal and show me what it says	09:37
Cursarion	I wonder what'd suit me then	09:37
lloowen	Hello all! Can anyone recommend a DVD player application that just works out of the box on Ubuntu! I have tried a number of DVD's I have purchased from the shops, and I can't get them to play using kaffeine, vlc, dragon player, kplayer.	09:37
ikonia	!dvd \| lloowen	09:37
ubottu	lloowen: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs \| For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	09:37
apctr	ikonia: it gives:"uid=1001(user1) gid=1001(user1) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),1001(user1)"	09:38
ikonia	apctr: ok, so this is on the amazon cloud I'm guessing ?	09:38
Cursarion	I'd like a stable and working OS with good support & functionality and only basic GUI, no eye candy	09:38
ikonia	Cursarion: ubuntu ticks that box	09:38
ikonia	Cursarion: try xubuntu for a lower/cut down gui	09:38
apctr	ikonia: no it ios ubuntu 10.04 version	09:38
Cursarion	not really if I can't update software after a year	09:39
DaPenguin	Cursarion, you can use any gui you want under buntu	09:39
ikonia	ios ubuntu ?	09:39
ikonia	apctr: what is ios ubuntu	09:39
Cursarion	without upgrading whole OS	09:39
apctr	ikonia: sorry it is ubuntu 10.04	09:39
ikonia	Cursarion: ubuntu ticks that box	09:39
ikonia	!info ubuntu-uce	09:39
ubottu	Package ubuntu-uce does not exist in maverick	09:39
ikonia	apctr: no problem	09:39
DaPenguin	Cursarion, plus updating isn't as bad as everyone seems to think	09:40
ikonia	apctr: that user is not in the "admin" group, that means it has no sudo or "root" access	09:40
Cursarion	ikonia: you just said it doesn't?	09:40
Cursarion	[11:36:15] < Cursarion> is software updateable for older Ubuntus through repos?	09:40
Cursarion	[11:36:32] < ikonia> Cursarion: if an updated package is available, sure, but that very rarley happens	09:40
ikonia	Cursarion: updates to newer versions rarley happens, but you said you wanted stable/working desktop with a minimal gui	09:40
ikonia	Cursarion: you didn't say you wanted rolling updates of bleeding edge software versions	09:40
Cursarion	oh well, not exactly bleeding edge	09:41
apctr	ikonia: i have to install a package so how can i do this? I have tar.gz source code but it is giving permisiion denied	09:41
Cursarion	working would suffice	09:41
ikonia	apctr: what do you want to install (what software)	09:41
Cursarion	all this started when VLC pissed me off with its stupid memory leaks	09:41
ikonia	Cursarion: ok, well "working" ubuntu ticks that box	09:41
ikonia	Cursarion: vlc is the same product in all distros, if there is a problem with VLC as an application, it will be present in most distros	09:41
Cursarion	yes, and then I need to compile it myself	09:42
ikonia	Cursarion: that is a very very bad idea	09:42
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Cursarion	I can imagine	09:43
mbrochh	is there a way to clear all output in the terminal?	09:43
mbrochh	so that i cannot even scroll back any more?	09:43
ikonia	mbrochh: clear	09:43
Cursarion	so it's either I upgrade OS or live with the memory leaking VLC	09:43
mbrochh	ikonia, nope, that still allows me to scroll back	09:43
ikonia	mbrochh: clear the terminal buffer then, normally in the terminal preferences or settings	09:44
ikonia	Cursarion: well, it depends, fixes and updates are provided in ubuntu and other distros, but version upgrades rarley	09:44
ikonia	Cursarion: bugs / issues do get fixed	09:44
mbrochh	ikonia, many thanks	09:44
Cursarion	not in Fedora apparently :/	09:44
ikonia	Cursarion: they do, but that's not something this channel can help/deal with	09:45
Cursarion	well I just asked there	09:45
Cursarion	and yes	09:45
Cursarion	maybe I should switch OS	09:45
Cursarion	thanks for your help	09:45
ikonia	no problem	09:45
ikonia	Cursarion: keep in mind you'll have the same issues with major version updates in ubuntu as you do in fedora though	09:46
Cursarion	yep. I'll mainly consider a distribution with slower pace	09:48
Starminn	ikonia: How long do you suggest people wait before upgrading to the official releases of new versiosn of Ubuntu (with regards to bug fixes, etc.). For example, how long should people have waited between 10.04->10.10, and likewise between 10.10->11.04?	09:48
ruan	yeah, im not upgrading if 11.04 is unstable	09:49
dare	ej	09:50
ikonia	Starminn: release day is fine, the only problem with doing it on release day is the repos are slow as people with little reason feel the need to have the bigger version numbers for no reason	09:51
ikonia	Starminn: any day after release day is fine	09:51
ruan	you can just switch mirrors for that	09:52
ikonia	ruan: normally most mirrors are swamped	09:52
Starminn	ikonia: I just recall reading a lot about how Maverick apparently had a lot of bugs and wasn't considered "stable" by many users until a month or two after. Does this happen with all versions (i.e. Whiney people), or what?	09:52
ikonia	the mirrors are swamped before days as foolish people constantly try to hit them to see when the iso's are up	09:52
ruan	hmm, i'll see	09:52
ikonia	Starminn: that's just users talking, if it's not stable, it doesn't get released	09:53
ruan	since my location isn't so linux popular, but it has 5 mirrors	09:53
Starminn	ikonia: Thought as much.	09:53
Starminn	ikonia: How long do you, personally, wait?	09:53
ikonia	Starminn: if a user has a problem, eg: nvidia card doesn't work, they start ranting that it's unstable,	09:53
ikonia	Starminn: I upgrade when I have a reason or need to, I keep a current machine for development/bugs/research but I'm not in a rush on release day to get that as I normally know what's there having followed the development	09:53
Starminn	ikonia: Are there really any perks to upgrading? I mean, for example, I've tested out the Alphas, etc., so I, like you, know what's there, but is there any real perk to getting the 'latest and greatest' sooner? Especially when other versions have a fairly decent EOLs?	09:55
ikonia	Starminn: that's a personal decision for you, if you want/need something thats in the later version, then that is your benifit, if not, no	09:57
Starminn	ikonia: Sounds reasonable enough.	09:57
userdel	i just created a folder in sd card 8GB and transferred all jpg files into that with mv command . i see that all files have become 0KB.what should i do now	09:58
Starminn	Update Manager just informed me it wants to isntall a bunch of "libqt4-<specificname>" stuff. Isn't QT4 = KDE4?	09:58
davetarmac	Not sure if this is the right place, but if anyone can help, please do - seem to be getting ignored in the other channels	09:59
davetarmac	Got a Bash problem on Cygwin	09:59
ikonia	Starminn: it's the engine behind QT, but it's used for other stuff too	09:59
ikonia	davetarmac: is it an ubuntu question ?	09:59
ikonia	davetarmac: nope, nothing to do with ubuntu, so try #bash or #cygwin	09:59
ruan	!info libqt4-core	10:00
ubottu	libqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): transitional package for Qt 4 core non-GUI runtime libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu4.2 (maverick), package size 45 kB, installed size 120 kB	10:00
davetarmac	ikonia: tried both of those channels - as I said, ignored	10:00
ikonia	davetarmac: sorry, wait for them to get back to you	10:00
davetarmac	ok ikonia thanks anyway	10:00
ubuntu	hej	10:00
ubuntu	bry	10:00
Starminn	ruan: Thanks.	10:00
ruan	Starminn: kde installs qt4	10:01
userdel	can anyone help me	10:01
Starminn	ruan: So GNOME doesn't need it. (Aside from any KDE-based apps)	10:02
ruan	Starminn: nope, APT suggested i autoremove it after removing KDE	10:02
Starminn	ruan: I removed KDE a few days ago. ;) Thought it was a bit odd. I thought I deleted most of it.	10:02
ikonia	Starminn: it is used for other things non-kde too,	10:03
Starminn	ikonia: Like what?	10:04
ruan	Starminn: an application that is created with/needing qt4	10:04
ikonia	Starminn: can't think off the top of me head, some music players use it I believe, parts of MythTV like it for display, but I'm not sure if that's linked to KDE	10:04
Starminn	ikonia ruan: Ah. So, again, just apps that were made with KDE. For example, KSnake or KBounce in the repos. Right?	10:05
ruan	Starminn: it could include some apps that aren't made with kde, but i havent found any yet	10:07
ikonia	Starminn: not all QT apps are kde	10:07
ikonia	but it's a small list	10:07
Starminn	ikonia ruan: Ah. Gotcha. So QT != KDE, but KDE == QT right?	10:07
ikonia	Starminn: pretty much	10:07
ruan	Starminn: yeah	10:07
Starminn	Got it.	10:07
userdel	can anyone help me	10:09
ikonia	userdel: with what ?	10:09
eoss	guys, just read on google , ubuntu dev admitted helping nsa plant backdoor	10:10
eoss	in ubuntu	10:10
userdel	ikonia : i just created a dir in a sd card and moved all jpg files from one of its folders to this dir. they all have become 0KB. i have issued only 2 commands mkdir and mv. its filesystem is msdos	10:10
Kimmen	eoss: haven't you heard that nsa has a backdoor into every windows os? =P	10:11
userdel	ikonia: the photos are very important	10:11
eoss	well now ubuntu has backdoor	10:11
ikonia	eoss: report a security bug as urgent then	10:11
ikonia	eoss: launchpad.net	10:11
eoss	APRIL FOOLS	10:11
eoss	harharhar	10:12
DrkShadow	How can I make kernel message not print to the damn console? I get a USB error 4 times a second and it really makes it unusable. Under any other linux distro, I'd switch to an alternative tty, but nooo...	10:12
Kimmen	oh noez we all fell for it hard	10:12
ikonia	eoss: ok please don't waste time with pointless aprilfools stuff	10:12
bastidrazor	eoss: you seem to be the only fool.	10:12
eoss	umad?	10:12
eoss	its troll day son	10:12
eoss	deal with it	10:12
ferengee	userdel, i suggest photorec	10:12
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ferengee	userdel, and do not save anything on that disk	10:12
ferengee	userdel photorec is in the testdisk package	10:13
userdel	ferengee : please tell me complete procedure . i have installed testdisk	10:13
qwebirc44173	output of /sys/power/disk is test testproc [shutdown] reboot Is this the reason I cant shutdown the system properly?	10:14
ferengee	userdel, have you mounted the sd card? if so umount it	10:14
userdel	ferengee: ok then.	10:15
ferengee	userdel, become root	10:15
ferengee	userdel, start photorec	10:15
ferengee	userdel, select the correct device for the sd card and hit proceed	10:16
userdel	ferengee: ok	10:16
userdel	ferengee: intel pc partition?	10:16
ferengee	userdel, do you use the whole device or a partition on the disk	10:16
morgan	anyone got a source for good dual booting info. Building a HTPC and I want a windows and 2 linux installs on it.. Just looking for something definitive	10:17
userdel	ferengee: i think there is no partition. should i choose none?	10:17
ferengee	userdel, yes	10:17
userdel	ferengee: ok	10:17
ferengee	userdel, choose the 'other' filesystem type	10:18
ikonia	morgan: 2 linux installs....Hmmmm with the current grub2 layout, I don't believe that is a wise move	10:18
ferengee	userdel, the one for fat etc	10:18
userdel	ferengee: ok. done .should i start recovery. where will it recover and store	10:18
c4pt	can anyone tell me offhand what deb package is used in question with visual effects in the System>Apperance panel ? http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Desktop_Visual_Effects	10:18
ferengee	userdel, choose a location that has enough free space	10:18
c4pt	<< messed up X pretty bad	10:19
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ferengee	usedel, know that all the deleted file space could be used by recovered files	10:19
coz_	good day all	10:19
ferengee	userdel, so if you have a sd card of 4GB then you might need 4GB free to restore	10:19
^Phantom^	why did they cancel any future ubuntu development?	10:19
Starminn	I pop a CD in, I am unable to read it, but as soon as I eject it it's fine and I can view the contents. (Only this CD, no others)	10:20
coz_	^Phantom^, for what?	10:20
ferengee	userdel, Photorec will ask you where to save the recovered files	10:20
userdel	ferengee: ok.i have started the recovery. i have 8GB sd card and similar free memoryno problems for that.	10:20
c4pt	??	10:20
ikonia	Starminn: how do you know it's fine after you eject it	10:20
morgan	ikonia - mostly it's so you always have access to ya cpu. when i crash my linux, my windows boot gets me outta the @$*#%..	10:21
ferengee	userdel, good luck then. Photorec will create multiple recup_dir folders in which you can find (partially) recoverd files	10:21
morgan	hence my 2nd linux install will always get me outta the #$@%	10:21
ikonia	morgan: if you have to star out words, don't say them	10:21
morgan	sorry, its an aussie thing i guess	10:22
erUSUL	^Phantom^: april's fool XXDD	10:22
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Starminn	ikonia: Well, I'm putting music onto my computer, so it's an Audio CD. So in Nautilus it lists all your media (or I can browse to /media, either one), and it appears as "Audio Disc" but it doesn't appear to be mount. So I say to mount it, nothing happens. So I eject it (manually, from the tower), and once it comes out, I can browse the files.	10:22
^Phantom^	erUSUL, yep	10:22
ikonia	morgan: a dual boot with linux and windows if fine as windows doesn't care about grub, it gets more complext when you have 2 linux distros on there, that both want to modify grub, that's isolated to one distro	10:22
c4pt	bbiab	10:22
userdel	ferengee: ok. i am able to see some non zero jpg files. thanks a lot.	10:22
ferengee	userdel, np	10:22
userdel	ferengee: but how can it give such a heart attack	10:23
userdel	ferengee: how can mkdir and mv destroy data	10:23
morgan	ikonia - recently I killed gdm with xbmc-live - my bad. But none of my previous distros would boot from grub. Not a fan of windows, I just want a hardwired linux install that will save the day	10:23
ikonia	morgan: hardwired linux distro ?	10:24
ikonia	morgan: pretty much all distros boot with grub	10:24
ikonia	morgan: what areyou talking about	10:24
ferengee	userdel, it is probably a dead sector on your sdcard	10:24
ferengee	userdel or a bad umount	10:25
Curly_Q	Ikonia are you saying that all ISO files are GRUB installed?	10:26
morgan	ikonia - sorry, i don't wanna dig for a live cd when I can have an alternate linux install on its own partition which will ALWAYS work as a backup	10:26
ikonia	Curly_Q: no, I'm saying that pretty much all linux distros install grub and boot from it as part of the install process	10:26
Starminn	ikonia: Aha! Now we're making progress! Here's the error: http://imagebin.org/146042	10:26
ferengee	userdel, on fat, the file allocation table contains all references to the file names. mv is writing in that table, as is creating a directory	10:26
ferengee	userdel, so the data stays on the same place, only the references are updated. But if the update of the fat fails, your files seem to be gone	10:27
ikonia	morgan: nothing wrong with a windows/linux dusl boot system, I just don't know what you mean by "hardwired linux distro"	10:27
Starminn	ikonia: He means on the HDD in a partition as opposed to a LiveCD	10:27
ikonia	ok, so that's simple, install windows, install a linux distro	10:28
morgan	ikonia - every update gives a new option on grub menu yes? but if I do something wrong, none of those options work. yeah, i wanna seperate install for backup. windows is only for windows progs. i hate it.	10:28
ikonia	morgan: no	10:28
ikonia	morgan: if you do something wrong, those options won't be affected, grub just boots the kernel, nothing more	10:29
Curly_Q	OK. I remember the old Loadlin installer.	10:29
morgan	ikonia - installed xbmc live (which uninstalled gdm), without windows to google the prob I would've bricked my computer. can't i have a failsafe install?	10:29
ikonia	morgan: what you've just said makes no sense	10:30
coz_	morgan, why did you install xbmc live instead of just installing xbmc from the repository?	10:30
ikonia	morgan: you install xmbc live - it uninstalled gdm, that has nothing to do with your capabilities to boot windows from grub	10:30
userdel	ferengee: ok. so there is no problem with commands . that's reliable atleast . or should we always create a backup before doing it.	10:30
coz_	morgan, do you get to a login prompt at all	10:31
morgan	ikonia - say i have no windows. and no live cd. can't i have a my working linux and a failsafe linux	10:31
ferengee	userdel, my personal policy is that disks cannot be trusted, so have your important stuff at atleast 2 places at all times	10:31
ikonia	morgan: that's not the way to deal with it,	10:31
Curly_Q	Ikonia, I remember the old Linux loader with Mount Point in text mode.	10:31
ikonia	morgan: a dual boot linux situation will make it more complex to manage and more likley to go wrong than just setting up your box and leaving it alone	10:32
ikonia	Curly_Q: you said that	10:32
userdel	ferengee: is there any way to restore with original names .	10:32
et_	I lost the session chooser bar in the login screen, wondering how to get it back.	10:32
morgan	fairy nuff. was just an idea i wanted to explore, i beleive ya (keep a live cd eh?) cheers	10:32
et_	and I don't seem to find the gdm config file anywhere.	10:32
ferengee	userdel, recently i recovered a 500GB usb disk for someone, but all filenames are missing. It isn't much fun to structure that data again from the meta data (using file, exif2 etc)	10:32
ferengee	userdel, since they are photograps asume	10:33
ferengee	userdel, they contain exif info	10:33
et_	I lost the session chooser bar in the login screen, wondering how to get it back. And my gdm config files are missing. Weird..	10:33
ferengee	userdel, i use exiv2 to obtain that information	10:34
ferengee	userdel, you might be able to reconstruct filenames using that info	10:34
morgan	ikonia - while i have a guru at hand. i accidentaly associated items in my places menu with a program.. don't know how to break that association?	10:35
userdel	ferengee:ok will try. thanks a lot for all the help.	10:35
tr3nton	does anyone know where I can find the md5 sum of natty beta 1? I been trying to create a usb startup disk, but it won't let me add the iso, so just want to check I've got the right file, without errors	10:36
bouldingue	il y a t il des francophones .	10:37
ylmfos	yourenme	10:38
bazhang	bouldingue, en #ubuntu-fr	10:38
bazhang	ylmfos, #ubuntu-cn for chinese	10:38
sveinse	I have a USB serial adapter and whenever I want to use it, upowerd locks access to /dev/ttyUSB0. How can I prevent it? Why is upowerd doing that? (Im running lucid on amd64)	10:38
bouldingue	okay thank's	10:38
bouldingue	#ubuntu-fr	10:38
dare	join #gdku27	10:39
ferengee	userdel, as soon as you have all your data back, you could use the testdisk program to try to recreate a valid fat with filenames on your sdcard	10:40
Curly_Q	Ikonia I agree with you. Can you imagine you trying to remotely reboot a dual boot box?	10:43
ikonia	Curly_Q: I do it all the time	10:43
userdel	ferengee:not a bad idea. will try	10:43
Curly_Q	Ikonia, that is OK. But as you said there are complications involved. It is better to just leave the box alone.	10:44
Curly_Q	I like to dedicate Windows box for Windows and Linux for Linux. Spend a few buck and do it right.	10:45
Curly_Q	Ikonia, I use a separate Hard Drive for my SWAP. The box runs much faster.	10:46
woozly	which programm in ubuntu, allow to 'Search an app by typing from keyboard'	10:47
woozly	popuping little window on screen	10:47
woozly	while I typing a name.. it will auto-complete and run on Enter	10:47
dagon666	guys Im having problems booting from degraded raid array in ubuntu 10.10	10:47
dagon666	can anyone help	10:47
mustermann	Hi everyone, is there a quick way to shorten the directory path in the terminal?	10:48
coz_	dagon666, I dont think i can,, i havent used raid since forever,,,if no one here can help,,it's possible that maybe someone in ##linux might be able to	10:48
Diverdude	do you guys run any kind of antivirus programs on your ubuntu machines?	10:48
Curly_Q	Woozly you can grep the application and enter in the terminal window the name of the application.	10:49
ikonia	Curly_Q: is there a reason you are telling me this information ?	10:49
coz_	Diverdude, if you want one it is called clamav with clamtk as the front end	10:49
Curly_Q	Ikonia, I was just talking with you.	10:49
ikonia	dagon666: what's up	10:49
mustermann	i mean the working directory currently displayed, can it be shortend?	10:49
qwebirc44173	can IRQ can cause shutdown problems?	10:49
Axlin	woozly: if i'm interpreting your question correctly, you could look at gnome-do, kupfer, synapse, or launchy (tha i know of)	10:49
woozly	Axlin, thank you	10:49
shuttle	hi, need help where i can find sth about saving ubuntu-os to partition	10:49
Diverdude	coz_, but is it necessary? I mean no viruses or malware or the like is written for linux anyway right?	10:50
dagon666	ikonia: my raid array is driving my crazy. I have bootdegraded=true, nevertheless it cannot boot and I land up in initramfs shell	10:50
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173 yes it can if your BIOS settings are turned off. If IRQ in BIOS is shut off, yes.	10:50
Zealous	Do i need a firewall for linux?	10:50
dagon666	shuttle: what do you mean ?	10:50
coz_	Diverdude, well not generally especially for a linux Desktop,, most of the liunux viruses are geared towards servers as far as I know and even my nephew got one on his linux server and he is a window addict :)	10:51
Starminn	!firewall \| Zealous	10:51
ubottu	Zealous: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW \| An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo \| GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.	10:51
coz_	Diverdude, it cant hurt for sure	10:51
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA yes	10:51
coz_	Diverdude, just done scan your windows installation with it or it will most likely render it un bootable :)	10:51
shuttle	dagon666: when ubuntu crashes i dont want to reinstall vpn and dont wanna set up firefox	10:51
Zealous	danka Starminn	10:51
Zealous	reading over it now	10:51
Starminn	Zealous: :) But basically, no. IT all comes straight out-of-the-box	10:52
dagon666	shuttle: do you want to make a complete partition image ?	10:52
Starminn	Zealous: Those links are for managing it. The defaults are usually fine.	10:52
dagon666	ikonia: can you help	10:52
shuttle	dagon666: i want to image my ubuntu-partition	10:52
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173, I don't know what you have there as a system or the BIOS, but in general, if the BIOS has been tampered with, I personally go into the BIOS and reset it to factory settings and work from there. Make sure you set the Plug N Play settings. That makes a difference.	10:52
shuttle	dagon666: instead of reinstall lubuntu when it crashes i want to backup from image	10:53
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: already did that	10:53
dagon666	shuttle: the easiest solution dd if=/dev/<your_part> of=<part_image_on different_part> bs=1024k	10:53
Curly_Q	OK.	10:53
cbf	i just enabled the root account by setting a password but as soon as i supply that password via ssh, i am disconnected. if i supply the wrong password it re-prompts me to type a password. what am i doing wrong?	10:53
Curly_Q	So what is the situation then?	10:53
dagon666	shuttle: additionally you can compress it	10:54
cbf	sshd_config seems to say root logins are allowed too	10:54
ikonia	dagon666: give me 2 minutes, on the phone	10:54
shuttle	dagon666: is there a package with gui available?	10:54
user	i changed the langauge of edubuntu 10.10 from english to albanian and sonce then i cant see new files i save from programs on the desktop	10:54
dagon666	maybe there is bu I do not care much about such stuff	10:54
user	help?	10:55
Axlin	Zealous: as stated, it comes with the distro. but i've found that gufw is the most reliable GUI method of managing it, though managing ufw rules through the command line isn't too difficult if you're willing to learn how :)	10:55
user	albanian language support	10:55
shuttle	dagon666: ok thx	10:55
ferengee	shuttle, if dd for some reason fails on your existing partition, use dd_rescue	10:56
dagon666	shuttle: you can also use dump -its a true backup program	10:56
ferengee	shuttle, and remember that you should not make an image of a mounted filesystem	10:56
shuttle	ok thx	10:57
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173 what hardware are you running on that box?	10:57
ferengee	shuttle, and another tip :) try to recover your install from your image. So that you know your backup actually works	10:58
shuttle	ok, and i wanted to ask, whats a good mp3-convert-package?	10:59
UDPError	Hey guys. I'm currently dual booting Windows 7 and Fedora 13. I was wondering how would I replace my fedora with Ubuntu?	10:59
coz_	UDPError, just install ubuntu over fedora	11:00
coz_	UDPError, should be that simple	11:00
UDPError	will replace the bootloader with grub?	11:00
coz_	UDPError, I am assuming it will... I have not done this with fedora so I am not positive	11:01
ferengee	shuttle, i like to use ffmpeg, but again that is commandline stuff	11:01
dagon666	UDPError: it would be better to reformat unfortunatelly, both systems come from completely different lines and conflicts may occur	11:01
coz_	shuttle, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg,,, then cd to the location of the file you want to convert and ffmpeg -i nameof.whichever nameofmp3	11:02
rigved	UDPError: format the /boot and the /root partitions while installing ubuntu	11:02
rigved	UDPError: sorry that should be /	11:02
UDPError	no worries rigved I figured as so :)	11:02
qwebirc44173	This is the exact problem that I have http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=c9437dac0fddfb56461dc26eadd4fb11&t=1692877	11:03
ikonia	dagon666: appologies back now, are you still having a raid problem	11:03
UDPError	The fedora install was easy all I had to do is select the "replace an existing linux os" option	11:03
UDPError	does ubuntu have this option?	11:03
dagon666	ikonia: yeah	11:03
ikonia	dagon666: let me see if I can help you, what's the problem	11:03
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coz_	UDPError, it has the option to choose partition,, which it will probably name, to overwrite it	11:04
rigved	UDPError: choose the manual partition option and erase the fedora partitions	11:04
dagon666	ikonia: sometimes at boot time my array does not get assembled and I land up in initramfs. I tried to remove one of the drives to force the degraded state and with one drive absent it does not want to boot, again I land up in initramfs shell	11:05
ikonia	dagon666: can you boot it at all ?	11:05
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173 have you tried to halt the box as root or did you client sudo halt?	11:05
UDPError	Isn't Fedora a completely different system thanUbuntu though?	11:05
ikonia	dagon666: as in do you know how to fix it	11:05
dagon666	ikonia: yes, the array itself is ok. Im curently using this system	11:05
ikonia	UDPError: yes, it is a different linux distro	11:05
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: I have sudo shutdown -h now and sudo poweroff	11:06
ikonia	dagon666: what type of array is it, mdadm ?	11:06
MrRagga	hi	11:06
dagon666	ikonia: the assembly problems at boot time are spontanious	11:06
MrRagga	i do have a Quadro FX 580 running the latest driver 260.19.44 with xorg version 1:7.5+6ubuntu3. i have two monitors connected via dvi but only the one is working which is directly connected to dvi. the second has a hdm -> dvi adapter and the monitor keeps unrecognised with the following error:"TwinView requested but only 1 display devices found"	11:06
MrRagga	here is my current xorg.conf http://paste.pocoo.org/show/363733/	11:06
UDPError	hmm okay I'll see what I can find :) will reboot into fedora and do so	11:06
ikonia	dagon666: ok, but is it an mdadm array ?	11:06
shomon	what happens if I syncrhonise a folder on ubuntu one, then turn off the sync - is the ubuntu one folder still going to be there? Just want to put it there, format this disc, reinstall and put it back...	11:06
dagon666	they happend quite rare, but they exist and sometimes du to them my server is not available. Yes its software raid mdadm	11:06
ikonia	dagon666: ok, first thing is, do you have an mdadm.conf	11:07
dagon666	yes	11:07
ikonia	dagon666: could you pastebin it for me please ?	11:07
dagon666	ikonia: http://pastie.org/1743073	11:08
ikonia	dagon666: where is that file located on your machine	11:08
dagon666	/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf	11:08
ikonia	dagon666: perfect	11:09
ikonia	dagon666: ok, this is a raid5 array, do you have a seperate /boot partition ?	11:09
MiYabI	hello i'm new in ubuntu. is there taskmanager in ubuntu ?	11:09
dagon666	ikonia: no, everything including boot lies on md0	11:09
dagon666	ikonia: strange thing I noticed at the moment	11:10
ikonia	dagon666: that maybe the problem, there are a lot of problems with having /boot on a raid5 array	11:10
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173, it may sound crazy but it almost seems that you have two instances or more root permissions going on at the same time. One says yes and the other is waiting. It is a thought. I had something like that happen when I did an SSH with two clients SSH channeling at the same time. I had to halt one client for the system to halt.	11:10
dagon666	mdadm.conf says that my array consists of 3 drives, but it should be 4	11:10
ikonia	dagon666: is it 3 drives and 1 spare, or 4 drives no spare	11:10
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: so I sudo -s?	11:10
dagon666	ikonia: 4 drives active, no spare	11:11
ikonia	dagon666: ahh, ok, that is a problem	11:11
coz_	MiYabI, you mean like window system monitor?	11:11
dagon666	ikonia: do you think that correcting this will help ?	11:11
ikonia	dagon666: manually re-assemble the array and then do a scan and redirect the output to the mdadm.conf (or a backup) and see if it recognises all 4 drives	11:11
Curly_Q	I would use top to see what is running or netstat -tuanlp	11:11
MiYabI	coz_ yea	11:11
ikonia	dagon666: if you have a 4 drive array, it will certainly help, you may want to consider moving /boot also if you can	11:11
coz_	MiYabI, if that is the case it is gnome-system-monitor	11:11
MiYabI	coz_ no GUI ?	11:12
coz_	MiYabI, under system/administration/ system monitor	11:12
coz_	MiYabI, or hit alt+F2 and type gome-system-monitor	11:12
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: so how I one user and then try to shut it down	11:12
UDPError	Is ubuntu LVM? like Fedora?	11:12
Curly_Q	Qwebirc are you doing this remotely?	11:12
MiYabI	coz_ how to launch that ? with terminal ?	11:12
dagon666	ikonia: ok, I'll try. Do you think that manuall correction of drives count will help anyway ?	11:12
coz_	UDPError, you can set it up that way	11:12
qwebirc44173	MiYabI: alt+f2 (kleyboard )	11:13
qwebirc44173	.	11:13
UDPError	because Fedora is LVm.. that's the only reason I ask	11:13
MiYabI	Oh Ok. thanks all	11:13
coz_	MiYabI, that's one way also alt+F2 or go to the menus under System / Administration / system monitor	11:13
ikonia	dagon666: as in manual correction in that config file ?	11:13
shomon	is there a more specific channel to ask about ubuntu one?	11:13
dagon666	ikonia: yes, exactly	11:13
ikonia	dagon666: no no no	11:13
coz_	MiYabI, in terminal gnome-system-monitor & disown ,,,, with alt+F2 gnome-system-monitor	11:13
MiYabI	coz_ thank you coz_	11:14
qwebirc44173	What is the difference between update-grub and update-grub2?	11:14
coz_	MiYabI, no problem	11:14
ikonia	dagon666: don't do that, if it thinks there are only 3 drives, and your blockid is made up of those 3 drives, chaning it to 4 drives will invalidate your block ID	11:14
coz_	qwebirc44173, I believe the sudo update-grub2 is current but then I am not a grub expert	11:14
ikonia	dagon666: correct the array to be using 4 drives, then do a scan to re-generate the config file with correct block id and drive numbers	11:14
qwebirc44173	coz_: yes it's the latest version of grub but update-grub does the same thing.	11:15
dagon666	ikonia: can I do a scan on assembled array ?	11:15
coz_	qwebirc44173, I believe both are valid ... yes	11:15
ikonia	dagon666: is it currently running with 4 drives ?	11:15
coz_	qwebirc44173, you can go to the #grub channel to be sure	11:15
dagon666	ikonia: yes	11:15
ikonia	dagon666: sure	11:16
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173, there is a difference between halt and shutdown. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639999	11:16
thevishy	hello friends now my window border has dissapeared	11:17
qwebirc44173	k	11:18
coz_	thevishy, hit alt+F2 type gtk-window-decorator --replace	11:18
thevishy	thanks coz	11:18
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: did not work	11:18
dagon666	ikonia: could you give me some example command. The array is very important to me and I d oevery operation on it with shaking hands :)	11:18
ikonia	dagon666: hang on, I can never remember this, it's something like mdadm --exaimne /dev/md0 --scan > mdadm.conf.out	11:19
ikonia	dagon666: mdadm --examine --scan > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf.new	11:20
CyFus	hey can someone help me figure out how to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, im trying to install CUDA but I cannot get the ldconfig to work	11:20
ikonia	CyFus: whats the problem	11:20
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers	11:21
CyFus	i cannot get the libraries to be recognized, the examples will not compile with a ld returned 1 exit status	11:21
dagon666	ikonia: hmmm, it displays 4 devices and different UUID	11:21
dagon666	strange	11:21
elisa87	Hi anyone from wisconsin?	11:22
ikonia	dagon666: nope, that's perfect	11:22
elisa87	hi anyone from wisconin?	11:22
elisa87	has anyone ever been to wisconsin?	11:22
ikonia	dagon666: that is totally expected, and why I told you not to update the mdadm.conf manually	11:22
ikonia	dagon666: use that file as your mdadm.conf now and see if the problem goes away	11:22
ikonia	elisa87: why ?	11:22
larious	Thanks to this forum, now my modem connect not am on net, but am having other issue to complie since that am new to linux, I have 2 package giving to me from school as an assignment and i need to defend this	11:22
CyFus	i set the environment values, I set the path but I cannot get cuda to work	11:22
ikonia	CyFus: what is the error	11:22
dagon666	ikonia: I assume that if I would simply change the drives count in mdadm.conf I would be in serious shit ?	11:22
CyFus	/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcutil_x86_64	11:23
CyFus	/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lshrutil_x86_64	11:23
CyFus	collect2: ld returned 1 exit status	11:23
CyFus	make: *** [../../bin/linux/release/bandwidthTest] Error 1	11:23
FloodBot1	CyFus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	11:23
elisa87	ikonia I have been admitted to wisc.edu for phd program in ECE...I wanted to know more about the city :)	11:23
ikonia	CyFus: where are the libraries that are needed ?	11:23
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173 It might be that in your halt file there may be a command that tells the computer to stay booted after halt which stops the halt.	11:23
larious	Can anyone help me on how to build a program and install on my linux	11:23
ikonia	elisa87: ok, try joining the loco team for that, this channel is only for ubuntu support	11:23
ikonia	larious: what program do you want to use	11:23
ikonia	dagon666: easy on the language, and yes, you'd be in real trouble if you changed it manually	11:23
CyFus	I installed the libraries they are part of the package, im just having trouble linking the libraries to the ldconfiguration	11:23
elisa87	what is loco team ikonia?	11:23
CyFus	so they are blind	11:24
ikonia	CyFus: where are the libraries	11:24
ikonia	!loco \| elisa87	11:24
DJones	elisa87: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-wisconsin	11:24
ubottu	elisa87: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams	11:24
erUSUL	elisa87: #ubuntu-us-wi or something like that :)	11:24
CyFus	usr/lib/local/cuda I think	11:24
ikonia	CyFus: you need to know	11:24
elisa87	@ubuntu-us-wi	11:24
DJones	elisa87: Join #ubuntu-us-wi	11:24
dagon666	ikonia: thanks for help	11:24
larious	ikonia: I need to install openvpn, I have the src and one other program called your-freedom, that is the example pof what I want to do	11:24
ikonia	dagon666: welcome, if you have time look at moving /boot off the array if possible	11:24
elisa87	djones and ikonia thx a lot	11:25
ikonia	larious: openvpn is in the ubuntu repos so you don't have to build it	11:25
ikonia	!info openvpn	11:25
ubottu	openvpn (source: openvpn): virtual private network daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.0-3ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 415 kB, installed size 1196 kB	11:25
CyFus	its usr/local/cuda	11:25
elisa87	(2:55:26 PM) locobot_2: (notice) #ubuntu-us-wi: The channel is logged (at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode). Please observe the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Thank you!	11:25
ikonia	larious: open the package manager, search for openvpn then hit install	11:25
ikonia	CyFus: ok, have you updated the ld search path ?	11:25
CyFus	thats the default config, I have it right	11:25
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qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: how can I check the halt file	11:25
CyFus	thats the thing im getting stuck on getting ld to see it	11:25
ikonia	CyFus: no, have you updated the ld search path	11:26
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: just tried apm power_off=1 in /etc/modules rebooted and sudo poweroff and did not wor	11:26
qwebirc44173	k	11:26
CyFus	ld.so.conf.d?	11:26
ikonia	CyFus: that's a directory	11:26
CyFus	i had to create a new conf file there for cuda	11:26
dagon666	ikonia: ok, I'll try to reboot	11:26
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: "what is the machine (hardware profile) it is very possible that a peripheral is causing a "hang". Maybe a printer, sound card...."	11:26
ikonia	CyFus: ok, if you do an ldconfig -v do you see the library	11:26
N3o	hello! please tell me what vnc server is able to run on display :0 and adjust the resolution	11:26
larious	ikonia: actually I am not on linux,... can i should you a link so that you can see my other package	11:26
DrkShadow	What does an ubuntu livecd look like? Does everything need to be under a subdirectory called ubuntu?	11:27
ikonia	larious: no thanks	11:27
qwebirc44173	DrkShadow: it's the same but live	11:27
fejese	hi everyone! i found a bug on ubuntu.com download page, where could i report it?	11:27
ikonia	fejese: launchpad.net	11:27
fejese	thx	11:27
larious	ikonia: so how can you help me on other package	11:27
ikonia	larious: what OS do you want to do this on	11:27
ikonia	larious: what OS do you want to do this on	11:27
larious	Ubuntu	11:27
Curly_Q	Not sure my friend. I am thinking about it as we speak.	11:27
qwebirc44173	ikonia: lol	11:27
ikonia	larious: ok, so deal with openvpn first,	11:27
ikonia	qwebirc44173: ?	11:27
qwebirc44173	!repeat	11:28
ubottu	Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	11:28
qwebirc44173	:)	11:28
ikonia	qwebirc44173: don't be silly please, it's just pointless noise to someone getting help	11:28
larious	ikonia: BRB cos I need to switch to my linux environment	11:28
ikonia	larious: no problem, not going anywhere	11:28
CyFus	ikonia its going to take a bit im looking though many lines	11:28
u-foka	Hy! After installing today's updates for natty, my X crashes every time I touch my synaptics touchpad :( Anyone else has the same issue?	11:28
ikonia	CyFus: grep is a good cheat	11:29
ikonia	!natty \| u-foka	11:29
ubottu	u-foka: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.	11:29
qwebirc44173	ubottu: /join #ubuntu+1	11:29
qwebirc44173	u-foka: /join #ubuntu+1	11:29
u-foka	ok, I got it :)	11:29
devil	Hello!!	11:29
Chr\|s	Just installed fresh copy of ubuntu 10.10...I am unable to see my desktop. How do I fix this? I enabled propreity graphics software. I am also on my cell phone. Please pm message	11:30
DrkShadow	Can someone pastebin for me their ubuntu live USB syslinux.cfg and txt.cfg please? :-)	11:31
tOrr`	hello, maybe someone can help me: how to reproduce an output bug like this: http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3460/outputbug.jpg ?	11:31
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Chr\|s	This has woked before	11:31
CyFus	yeah its in there all right	11:32
ikonia	CyFus: ok, so the dynamic linker is set fine, that means it's either been compiled wrong, or there is a problem with those libraries	11:32
Curly_Q	Chris do you see anything on the screen?	11:33
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: just found this http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/APM_Power.html	11:33
^Phantom2^	weirdest thing just happened	11:33
^Phantom2^	ubuntu turned off my gfx card	11:33
Chr\|s	Curly_Q yes just horizontal lines. On computer start up I can see everything	11:34
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173, that makes sense. I had a problem years ago with Red Hat and had to append the RAM I had to the boot config file. Good research.	11:35
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: so I need to add options in grub cfg	11:35
Curly_Q	Good work Qwebirc44173.	11:35
Curly_Q	I had an idea it was something like that.	11:36
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: i didnt say my problem is solved :P	11:36
qwebirc44173	need to try all the stuff	11:36
Curly_Q	You are close though.	11:36
Curly_Q	Compiling the kernel is a different story though.	11:36
TrickyJ	#j ubuntu-locoteams	11:37
ikonia	Curly_Q: can you stop making random comments about your old redhat box and compiling kernels, no-one is even talking about that	11:37
qwebirc44173	ikonia: he's giving me hope	11:37
sl33k_	i want to find the path for --prefix. So how do i write my path to a directory? the directory is in /media/890...	11:37
ikonia	qwebirc44173: it's random and miss-leading	11:37
ikonia	sl33k_: in what respect ?	11:37
Chr\|s	Any ideas?	11:38
sl33k_	ikonia: it says like this PREFIX=/path/to/where/I/want/directory	11:38
ikonia	sl33k_: what are you actually trying to do	11:38
Chr\|s	Not sure how I could "roll back" graphics driver. Proproiety driver	11:39
CyFus	ugh what a mess I'm not sure how im going to fix this	11:39
sl33k_	ikonia: this is before compile to find the prefix to the directories not in root.	11:39
sl33k_	root directory	11:39
ikonia	sl33k_: you can set --prefix to where ever you want then, --prefix is where you want to install it, that's up to you	11:39
Nomikos	I'm running Ubuntu in a VirtualBox, but it doesn't go on the network until after I login via the login dialog. what should I look for?	11:39
gean	gean	11:40
Nomikos	To clarify, I'd like it to be able to accept incoming SSH and HTTP without logging in	11:40
Nomikos	*in the gui	11:40
ruan	Nomikos: you can disable the login dialog	11:40
Chr\|s	Anyone have any suggestions? I cantr access my desktop with it being like this	11:41
Gnea	Nomikos: open your network manager settings	11:41
sl33k_	ikonia: will the path be something like ~/home/media/840... or /media/840 ?	11:41
Nomikos	ruan: I'd prefer not to	11:41
Gnea	Nomikos: there's an option to checkbox that it not be just for logins	11:41
ikonia	Nomikos: this is probably due to the fact that your network card is setup using network manager settings which doesn't get loaded until you log in	11:41
ikonia	sl33k_: it is where YOU want it to be	11:41
[deXter]	haha	11:42
[deXter]	did you guys see the narwhal on google earth?	11:42
[deXter]	http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51%C2%B029%E2%80%9930.82%E2%80%B3+N+0%C2%B007%E2%80%9928.59%E2%80%B3+W&aq=&sll=51.49254,-0.124261&sspn=0.0035,0.010568&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16	11:42
ikonia	[deXter]: offtopic for this channel	11:42
sl33k_	ikonia: yea but where to start the path. noobie at paths.	11:42
ikonia	sl33k_: where ever YOU want	11:42
[deXter]	ikonia: Whoops, sorry. Is there an #ubuntu-chat or similar?	11:43
ikonia	[deXter]: #ubuntu-offtopic	11:43
[deXter]	Sweet	11:43
sl33k_	ikonia: path will start with /media or /home/media?	11:44
ikonia	sl33k_: where YOU want	11:46
lee-x	sl33k_: /media	11:46
ikonia	lee-x: you don't know that, do you know his system ?	11:46
locodir-user	TrickyJ: HI	11:47
mariuzs	hello	11:47
TrickyJ	locodir-user, How are u buddy	11:47
rzx237	how to configure linux to use individual audio stream for laptop speaker and for headphone using one audio controller? or we need two audio controller?	11:47
mariuzs	i'm sic and i can't go to work	11:48
ikonia	mariuzs: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only	11:49
Zealous	lol Tux says NO!!!!!	11:49
ikonia	Zealous: ?	11:49
Zealous	idk trying to be funny, linux chat only	11:50
Zealous	dam irc can never do voices	11:50
mariuzs	sorry, OK i have problem with subwoofer in ubuntu 10.10	11:50
qwebirc44173	I installed apmd and typed amd -s it shows: No APM support in kernel	11:50
ikonia	Zealous: please don't, you've been told what the channel topic is	11:50
qwebirc44173	:O	11:50
ikonia	qwebirc44173: did you add that apm options to the kernel boot	11:50
qwebirc44173	ikonia: ye need to reboot	11:51
ikonia	qwebirc44173: what options did you use ?	11:51
qwebirc44173	ikonia: im gonna try acpi=off apm=power_off	11:51
qwebirc44173	and there is apm=on i think	11:51
ikonia	qwebirc44173: ok, so would that not explain why there is no power managment support	11:51
ikonia	qwebirc44173: if you've turned them off	11:51
qwebirc44173	lol	11:51
qwebirc44173	ikonia: do I need the apm=on?	11:52
ikonia	qwebirc44173: depends if your hardware supports it	11:52
qwebirc44173	it does	11:52
qwebirc44173	it's on BIOS	11:52
ikonia	qwebirc44173: how do you know ?	11:52
ikonia	qwebirc44173: does it support it within linux	11:52
qwebirc44173	it should? lol	11:52
ikonia	qwebirc44173: how do you know ?	11:52
qwebirc44173	how can I know?	11:52
ikonia	qwebirc44173: research,	11:53
qwebirc44173	just trying	11:53
qwebirc44173	:P	11:53
ikonia	qwebirc44173: try it, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work	11:53
qwebirc44173	ok no need to be pessimist	11:54
ikonia	qwebirc44173: I'm not	11:54
Cyclopse	can anyone please tell me how to start with PHP on ubuntu?	11:55
ikonia	Cyclopse: in what way start, install it, or start writing softrware ?	11:55
Cyclopse	to install it	11:56
fairuz	Cyclopse: Install php, apache and mysql	11:56
ikonia	Cyclopse: I assume you'll be wanting to use web applications with it, eg: wordpress or something like that	11:56
qwebirc44173	ikonia: it continues to show no apm support in kernel	11:56
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ikonia	qwebirc44173: as I said, don't be surprised	11:57
Cyclopse	I want to work on web applications	11:57
fairuz	Cyclopse: If you don't want to install each of them separately, try Xampp : http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html	11:57
fairuz	There are some instructions there that you can follow	11:57
ikonia	fairuz: please don't recommend that	11:57
ikonia	Cyclopse: don't use xammp	11:57
ikonia	!lamp \| Cyclopse	11:57
ubottu	Cyclopse: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	11:57
fairuz	ikonia: ah yes, sure. :D	11:58
novitololo	any recommendation of a program to take notes?	11:58
ikonia	Cyclopse: that information the ubottu gave you will walk you through installing the supported LAMP stack, which is PHP and Mysql DB on ubuntu, perfect for php applications	11:58
Guest50103	Why did my network always go offline today?	11:58
Curly_Q	Qwebirc44173, I shut down my Linux box from my SSH box and there was a clue to your situation. I saw this: Broadcast message /dev/pts/0 There is a Linux organization called: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2000-May/002889.html Check that out.	11:59
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DavidGao	I mean before I changed into Xubuntu	11:59
Cyclopse	thanks for the help:)	11:59
qwebirc44173	Curly_Q: dunno what it means	11:59
ikonia	qwebirc44173: ignore it	11:59
ikonia	Curly_Q: could you explain how that releats to power managment ?	12:00
Curly_Q	It talks about the Linux kernel and the shutdown message.	12:00
DrkShadow	I hate spending hours upon hours on something before coming to the conclusion that it's just unsupported hardware.	12:00
ikonia	Curly_Q: who is asking about a shutdown message	12:00
Curly_Q	Qwebirc was.	12:00
DavidGao	Ah, hello everyone~~	12:00
DrkShadow	never mind, now I'm getting the error on both machines. USB key, "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" -- anyone know how to fix that?	12:00
qwebirc44173	at /etc/default/halt # Default behaviour of shutdown -h / halt. Set to "halt" or "poweroff". HALT=poweroff	12:01
ikonia	qwebirc44173: yes, so is the problem a shutdown message or power managment	12:01
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qwebirc44173	hopefully not hardware	12:01
DavidGao	ubuntu seems not running well on my ancient 2003 machine...could anyone please tell me which version I should use?	12:01
ikonia	qwebirc44173: yes, so is the problem a shutdown message or power managment	12:01
Rovanion	Does anyone know what could cause only being able to join one wireless network per boot. I've tried restarting networking and, depending on what I had installed, wicd and NM. I'm still only able to connect to one wireless network per boot.	12:02
qwebirc44173	Where is CONFIG_APM=y ?	12:05
ikonia	qwebirc44173: it's in the kernel	12:05
ikonia	qwebirc44173: it's a compile time option, but as ubuntu is modular it's likley to be set to "M"	12:06
qwebirc44173	ikonia: can I check its config?	12:06
qwebirc44173	hm	12:06
xiaoy	Which pkgs should i install to get 32bit compatibility in a 64bit Ubuntu?	12:06
ikonia	qwebirc44173: I'll help you out, it's amodule	12:06
ikonia	module	12:06
qwebirc44173	ok tks	12:06
ikonia	xiaoy: if you install a 32bit package, it will pull the deps in	12:06
xiaoy	ikonia, is thera a name for the 32bit main package?	12:07
phonex01	hi guys is there any tool can be used as wifi spy chanalyzer on ubuntu ?	12:08
ruan	xiaoy: there isn't really a 'main' package, but you can try ia32-libs	12:08
Zealous	spy chanalyzer????	12:08
Zealous	you want to monitor your wifi network?	12:08
Zealous	to see who is connected	12:09
phonex01	i can use aircrack	12:09
phonex01	but i want to see the spectrum	12:09
Zealous	i don't security talk is covered in this room	12:09
phonex01	there is some tools for windows do that	12:09
Zealous	could try the backtrack room	12:09
ikonia	xiaoy: compat-libs, something like i386-compat-libs	12:09
ikonia	Zealous: please don't make things up	12:09
ikonia	security talk related to ubuntu is fine	12:09
phonex01	im not trying to hack someone	12:09
Zealous	well i mentioned aircrack yesterday and i got told to take it to backtrack room	12:10
ikonia	Zealous: #backtrackl-linux is for backtrack linux support, not security in general, as you've been told in #backtrack-linux	12:10
phonex01	im working on a wifi module	12:10
ruan	hmm, so you want to see who is connected to a wifi network?	12:10
phonex01	no man	12:10
ruan	what exactly then?	12:10
phonex01	i want to see the spectrum between channels	12:10
ruan	hmm	12:10
phonex01	there is a tool for windows called wifi spy chanalyzer	12:11
ruan	does that work on wine?	12:11
phonex01	no	12:11
phonex01	look like this : http://www.metageek.net/support/downloads/	12:12
HRezaei	Hi ti All! I have a problem using Ubuntu One: I see this error while trying to register or sign in: "NoneType" object has no attribute 'makefile'?!	12:14
Chr\|s	!ops \| siska	12:15
ubottu	siska: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!	12:15
ikonia	?	12:15
Chr\|s	advertising	12:15
ikonia	Chr\|s: why have you called the ops	12:15
ikonia	Chr\|s: where ?	12:16
Chr\|s	siska	12:16
ruan	can't see siska anywhere	12:16
ikonia	Chr\|s: where ?	12:16
ruan	in the channel but i dont see any advertising	12:16
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arune	when my laptop enters or leaves suspend I would like it to do a "killall ssh" so that I dont have some "frozen" terminals when I wake the laptop from suspend, I guess there is some script that will run automatically?	12:16
Chr\|s	my bad,must of noticed me	12:16
Chr\|s	thought it was in channel	12:16
hvnsweeting	hi, please help me, i've reinstalled Windows, i try to restore grub2 after read some tut on net. But now, when i boot, i just got the "grub> " please tell me how to fix this. Thanks	12:17
DirtyDawg	guys, i have about 2 weeks ago just started using Ubuntu so i am still getting used to it, i have a disk with 3 partitions, one ext3 (Ubuntu) and 2 NTFS from when i had windows installed, even tho they both work and are readable under Ubuntu i would like to delete them both and resize the Ubuntu ext3 partition into 1 ext3, using Gparted (booted) would this cause any problems or should it work ok?	12:17
ruan	DirtyDawg: it should work. ubuntu is not dependant on NTFS	12:18
ikonia	DirtyDawg: as long as you do it from a livecd you won't have a problem	12:18
DirtyDawg	ahh thx guys :)	12:18
ikonia	DirtyDawg: you won't be able to resize the ubuntu OS partition while you are using it, hence using a livecd	12:18
ZeeTron	just make backup before	12:19
ZeeTron	use hirens xD	12:19
DirtyDawg	ahh yeah i wondered about that, i just bought some cd's to burn the bootable one	12:19
ruan	it can be done from a usb too	12:19
venkatesh	hello	12:19
hvnsweeting	hi, please help me, i've reinstalled Windows, i try to restore grub2 after read some tut on net. But now, when i boot, i just got the "grub> " please tell me how to fix this. Thanks	12:20
ZeeTron	or by a floop disc	12:20
ZeeTron	:P	12:20
qwebirc44173	ikonia: I have added the commands to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line	12:21
qwebirc44173	is that right?	12:21
ruan	havent seen a floppy that can store 700mb of data	12:21
qwebirc44173	lol	12:21
cipher_	lmao	12:21
ZeeTron	i didnt say that	12:21
ZeeTron	i said boot by	12:21
ruan	floop disc?	12:22
ZeeTron	and not do all with a floop	12:22
ruan	oh	12:22
OomElvis	hey all, i wanted to connect to a host via SSH, but dont want my domain to appear in the command "history" - is there a way to use SSH like telnet where u run telnet and then type: "open destination"	12:22
qwebirc44173	ZeeTron: I know you can create a rescue floppy	12:22
ZeeTron	yeah	12:22
ZeeTron	u see?	12:22
venkatesh	hello everybody ....I have installed teamviewer package in ubuntu 10.10 , first it was showing the icon in internet menu , but now its not showing the icon, if i open from the command line it works. how to bring back the teamviewer icon back to internet menu	12:22
OomElvis	in some sort of interactive mode	12:22
qwebirc44173	OomElvis: ssh -p PORT USER@HOSTNAME	12:22
qwebirc44173	?	12:22
OomElvis	but then it gets rrecorded in the history	12:22
OomElvis	when u type "histroy"	12:22
qwebirc44173	host*	12:22
OomElvis	but if i went telnet > open mydomain.com	12:23
OomElvis	then it wouldnt be seen	12:23
qwebirc44173	OomElvis: nano .bashrc	12:23
qwebirc44173	add the line unset=HISTFILE	12:23
qwebirc44173	save	12:23
cselab	hw 2 install mysql without internet connection	12:23
qwebirc44173	then rm .bash_history	12:23
qwebirc44173	source .bashrc	12:23
OomElvis	qwebirc44173: cool!	12:23
cipher_	venkatesh, right click on the application ->edit menus .. there u go	12:23
OomElvis	thans man	12:23
OomElvis	ye know too much	12:23
disse	Hey guy's I have a problem with proxychains	12:24
disse	http://nopaste.me/paste/4d95b3b6960c4	12:24
disse	there on the link is the full description	12:24
qwebirc44173	lol	12:24
cselab	cipher_, hw 2 install mysql without internet connection	12:24
ZeeTron	:D	12:24
ZeeTron	right click of a mouse	12:24
qwebirc44173	OomElvis:	12:24
cselab	ZeeTron, hw 2 install mysql without internet connection	12:24
qwebirc44173	OomElvis: it is unset HISTFILE	12:24
qwebirc44173	not unset=HISTFILE	12:25
OomElvis	oh ok	12:25
OomElvis	cool	12:25
cselab	qwebirc44173, hw 2 install mysql without internet connection	12:25
ZeeTron	cselab i dont have clue	12:25
ruan	cselab: get the packages from a pc that has a internet connection, and put it on the pc	12:25
cselab	Zeelot, ok thnx	12:25
OomElvis	or i could make a bash script that connects to the host	12:26
OomElvis	then i delete the script	12:26
OomElvis	:p	12:26
cselab	ruan, i mean wt r those pkgs	12:26
vbajpai	exit	12:26
vbajpai	quit	12:26
ruan	cselab: not sure, but they should be on packages.ubuntu.com somewhere	12:26
qwebirc44173	cselab: you could download the .deb file	12:26
ruan	yeah the deb files	12:26
qwebirc44173	cselab: http://packages.ubuntu.com/	12:26
ZeeTron	they said withou internet	12:27
qwebirc44173	make sure you have the dependecies	12:27
cselab	qwebirc44173,i downloaded a file from my sql website.it hav no install script	12:27
ZeeTron	*him	12:27
ruan	ZeeTron: via usb flash drive from a pc that has internet	12:27
iceroot	cselab: install script for what?	12:27
qwebirc44173	dont know if you can install a package from installation cd	12:27
cselab	iceroot, its a single wordinstallscript	12:28
qwebirc44173	but that would be outdated anyway	12:28
iceroot	cselab: a what?	12:28
cselab	iceroot, i mean i hav no file to install mysql	12:28
ruan	cselab: get the .deb packages for mysql	12:28
cselab	iceroot, only some binary files	12:28
ruan	!lamp	12:28
ubottu	LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	12:28
iceroot	cselab: what do you want to install?	12:29
cselab	iceroot, mysql	12:29
cselab	ruan, am on www.packages.ubuntu.com	12:29
cselab	ruan, section please....	12:29
iceroot	cselab: sudo apt-get install mysql	12:29
elfranne	is there a CLI version of ubuntu one or a way to install ubuntu one client on a headless server ?	12:29
Pumpkin-	another method, "export HISTCONTROL=ignorespace", and then prefix commands you don't want to be saved in the history with a space	12:29
ruan	iceroot: he wants to install it on another pc. packages get will do	12:29
iceroot	cselab: sudo apt-get install -d mysql-server	12:30
cselab	iceroot, its not working i hav 2 update repositories 4 that	12:30
Pumpkin-	so "echo foo" would go in the history, but " echo foo" wouldn't	12:30
iceroot	cselab: then copy the file from /var/cache/apt/ to the other machine and use "sudo dpkg -i mysql-server....deb"	12:30
cselab	iceroot, thnx a lot	12:30
ruan	yep, that will work	12:31
cselab	iceroot, anything other tahn taht?	12:31
mih1406	I want to extract data from files to a single file using grep?	12:31
cselab	other than that?	12:31
ruan	cselab: once you have the .deb file, you can install it without an internet connection	12:31
mih1406	Grep prints only the files name not the matched regexp	12:31
ruan	cselab: provided that it has all the dependancies	12:31
DrkShadow	The live CD doesn't detect /dev/sdb1 as the source for the live filesystem... how can I tell it to look there, or manually mount it, or whatever?	12:32
ruan	mih1406: what type of files are these?	12:32
cselab	ruan, thats ma qstn....does it hav all d dependencies?	12:32
ruan	cselab: it should	12:32
oCean	mih1406: grep prints both: the filename as well as the matching line	12:32
qwebirc44173	OomElvis: ssh will hash stuff to .ssh/known_hosts	12:32
mih1406	ruan, text files	12:33
cselab	ruan,am on packages.ubuntu.com which section shud i select?	12:33
mih1406	I want to print the found matched regexp	12:33
qwebirc44173	mih1406: use cat?	12:34
mih1406	cat?	12:34
oCean	mih1406: grep -h will not print the filename, where the regexp is found	12:34
cselab	ok bye 2 all	12:34
qwebirc44173	bye	12:34
mih1406	I have 3 file of my database and I want to extracts usernames and emails to a single file	12:35
llewangus825	Hi all, I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction - I'm not sure what I did but when I try scrol through menues like the application menu it does not always open the next menu (intermittent) and I can double click - I have tried loads of search terms - but I don't know what I am actually asking.... Any help would be very gratfully recieved.	12:35
qwebirc44173	I have a /proc/acpi not /proc/apm	12:36
oCean	mih1406: yeah, so?	12:36
lolmaus	How do i list all groups a certain user belongs to? In console	12:36
mih1406	how to extract these data to a single file?	12:36
qwebirc44173	mih1406: > file	12:36
Dr_Willis	lolmaus: one way would be to grep the /etc/groups file for their name. or check the groups command.	12:36
ruan	mih1406: cat file1 >file.txt	12:37
mih1406	qwebirc44173, this prints the file name and the line but I want the emails and usernames	12:37
oCean	mih1406: I told you	12:37
qwebirc44173	lol	12:37
oCean	mih1406: you have to come with examples, or show in paste.ubuntu.com	12:37
lolmaus	Dr_Willis, yay! Thx for "groups"!	12:37
mih1406	here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/588209/	12:38
mih1406	Can you gave me the whole command that extracts emails from 3 files to single files so I have a list of emails with their username	12:40
oCean	mih1406: use * for each file in that directory	12:40
DrkShadow	Is there _any_ way to install Ubuntu from a non-ubuntu system?	12:40
erkan^	!jodi	12:40
Dr_Willis	DrkShadow: debootstrap is one way	12:40
Cube``	when's 11.4 coming out?	12:40
Cube``	aint no counter on the homepage	12:40
Dr_Willis	DrkShadow: fancy virtualbox tricks.	12:40
DrkShadow	oh screw it. I can just use the mini disk... it doesn't need to load a live filesystem.	12:40
ruan	!natty	12:40
ubottu	Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.	12:40
Dr_Willis	Cube``: end of the month normally. 2011 4th month...	12:40
Cube``	thanks ruan	12:40
Cube``	ah ok	12:40
Cube``	thanks guys	12:40
HRezaei	I have run sudo firefox in terminal. It opened ff and now I can not write any commands else. how to return to command line?	12:41
oCean	mih1406: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588211/	12:41
ruan	HRezaei: why sudo firefox?	12:41
Dr_Willis	HRezaei: bash job controll,.,. ctrl-z and the 'bg' command. is one way	12:41
qwebirc44173	just found this beauty cat /boot/config-2.6.35-28-generic \| grep APM	12:41
Dr_Willis	HRezaei: i also have to wonder.. why would ou need to do sudo firefox.	12:41
Pumpkin-	HRezaei: lots of questions	12:41
Pumpkin-	1.) Why are you running Firefox as root ?	12:42
ruan	HRezaei: first, firefox doesn't need root, and second, it should be run as gksudo	12:42
Pumpkin-	2.) You can tell tasks to run in the background by putting a & on the end of them (for example "firefox &")	12:42
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Pumpkin-	3.) Hit CTRL-C will get you back to the command prompt, but it will close firefox	12:42
llewangus825	Just wondering if it could have anything to do with enabling PAE?	12:43
HRezaei	ruan, Dr_Willis ,Pumpkin- I wanted to update my ff from 3.6 to 4. so extracted 4.tar.gz then I did not know how to upgrade. so tested that command in extracted folder!	12:44
ruan	!ff4	12:44
mih1406	thank you guys	12:44
ubottu	Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox	12:44
qwebirc44173	I need help enabling APM support!	12:44
mih1406	oCean, special thank to oCean	12:44
oCean	mih1406: welcome	12:45
Dr_Willis	HRezaei: thats not the proper way top upgrade it at all. and even then. there was no need to do sudo firefox.	12:45
Dr_Willis	HRezaei: your user could of extracted/ran the binaries from that tar.gz	12:45
HRezaei	ubottu: I have downloaded it before ! but your commands are downloading it again!	12:48
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	12:48
chatmachine	BREAKING NEWS! http://bit.ly/fpzn0q BREAKING NEWS!	12:48
chatmachine	BREAKING NEWS! http://bit.ly/fpzn0q BREAKING NEWS!	12:48
chatmachine	BREAKING NEWS! http://bit.ly/fpzn0q BREAKING NEWS!	12:48
FloodBot1	chatmachine: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	12:48
prx	hi	12:49
vieira061180	hi prx	12:49
qwebirc44173	This is my old machine http://www.ciao.co.uk/Productinformation/PCCHIPS_M810_LMR__5409872	12:49
prx	Is there an alternative for Ubuntu 10.10 for the networkmanager, like wpa_gui that i may use?	12:49
Dr_Willis	HRezaei: You really dont want to be using the tar.gz file at all. If you want to upgrade firefox 'system wide' you need to enable the proper repositories.	12:49
qwebirc44173	prx: wicd	12:49
ruan	prx: wicd	12:49
Dr_Willis	prx: theres wicd that many people use	12:49
HRezaei	Dr_Willis: I have downloaded it before ! but ubottu commands are downloading it again!	12:49
prx	thx, trying...	12:50
ruan	HRezaei: those commands install it properly	12:50
Dr_Willis	HRezaei: You dowloaded that tar.gz - which is not needed. You need to enable the stable firefox 4 ppa repopsotry and update it that way	12:50
prx	wow, wicd even comes with a curses gui :)	12:51
HRezaei	Dr_Willis: I have had same problems installing other software! Is there any rich article helping me understanding use of repositories fully?	12:51
ruan	!ppa	12:51
ubottu	A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.	12:51
HRezaei	thx all!	12:53
qwebirc44173	where is apm module located?	12:55
ikonia	qwebirc44173: kernel tree	12:56
qwebirc44173	ikonia: dont get it	12:56
ikonia	qwebirc44173: what do you want to do	12:57
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qwebirc44173	ikonia: to enable apm module	12:57
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qwebirc44173	cat /boot/config-2.6.35-28-generic \| grep APM shows CONFIG_APM=m	12:57
ikonia	qwebirc44173: load the module then	12:57
qwebirc44173	should be =y	12:57
ikonia	qwebirc44173: no it shouldn't	12:57
qwebirc44173	ikonia: I tried it didnt found	12:57
ikonia	qwebirc44173: I told you it would not be "y"	12:57
ikonia	qwebirc44173: how did you try to load it	12:58
qwebirc44173	ikonia: sudo modprobe apm	12:58
qwebirc44173	and sudo -s	12:58
ikonia	qwebirc44173: is that the modules name ?	12:58
qwebirc44173	btw its PAE kernel	12:58
qwebirc44173	same thing on desktop	12:58
ikonia	that's not what I asked	12:58
qwebirc44173	I know	12:58
ikonia	ok	12:58
qwebirc44173	I think it is called apm	12:59
qwebirc44173	:)	12:59
qwebirc44173	modprobe apm FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic-pae/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/apm.ko): No such device	12:59
qwebirc44173	fail	12:59
dj__	how to compile c program in ubuntu	12:59
ikonia	qwebirc44173: ok, "think" it not enough, you need to know the name of the module you are loaded	12:59
ruan	!compile \| dj__	12:59
ubottu	dj__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	12:59
ikonia	qwebirc44173: ok - so that's the problem than, that module doesn't exist in that directory, so either it's not there, or it's the wrong name	12:59
qwebirc44173	ikonia: it is apm	13:00
ikonia	qwebirc44173: how do you know ?	13:00
qwebirc44173	ive seen in websites	13:00
qwebirc44173	ppl telling to load apm module	13:01
ikonia	qwebirc44173: use load the apm module, that doesn't it is / is not actually called apm	13:01
dj__	how n wer to comile c in ubutnu	13:01
ikonia	qwebirc44173: eg: I could tell you to load the scsi disk module, that doesn't mean the module is called "scsi disk"	13:01
ulughbegh	have you heard latest rumors after the 11.4 ubuntu will be a paid os :O	13:03
Krabbe	>:D	13:03
qwebirc44173	topic ulughbegh	13:03
qwebirc44173	ban ftw	13:03
ulughbegh	opps sorry	13:04
* DirtyDawg thinks the paid for Ubuntu is an April fool joke :D		13:06
ikonia	DirtyDawg: bit slow	13:06
DirtyDawg	was eating a sammich	13:06
DirtyDawg	just noticed lol	13:06
[TK]D-Fender	ikonia: Not at all... you were remarkably fast! chop :)	13:07
lolmaus	I've created a user on ubuntu server and added it to the "admin" group. But when i try to login via SSH it says access denied. Why?	13:08
lolmaus	I changed password to 123 so there's no typo	13:09
prx	lolmaus: inside the sshd config there may be some part that rejects logins for users in this group, why does the wheel group not succeed?	13:10
jrib	lolmaus: can you « ssh localhost » on the server locally and login as the user?	13:10
ikonia	prx: ubuntu does use wheel	13:10
prx	ikonia: jup, but lolmaus used admin	13:11
* jrib pokes ikonia		13:11
jrib	prx: he meant "doesn't"	13:11
prx	jrib: ah, sorry	13:11
prx	I need to stay a bit to get some more information about ubuntu... ;)	13:12
jrib	prx: essentially, the just use "admin" instead of "wheel"	13:12
ikonia	jrib: thank you	13:13
LjL	does Ubuntu support the Creative X-Fi nowadays, and if so how well and is it with OSS drivers?	13:13
ikonia	LjL: it get "ok" sound out of it, nothing advanced, stero etc	13:13
LjL	ikonia: you mean no stereo?	13:13
lolmaus	jrib, the server is remote. And i can login to it with my own user.	13:13
Pici	lolmaus: I suspect that you used useradd instead of adduser and the user's account isn't sufficiently set up.	13:14
ikonia	LjL: no, I get the basics, such as stereo	13:14
jrib	lolmaus: fine do « ssh localhost » after you login with your own user	13:14
lolmaus	Pici, i used the interactive one	13:14
LjL	ikonia: ah. can you sample at 192kHz (assuming it supports that, i think it does but not quite sure)?	13:14
lolmaus	jrib, yup, it did let me in	13:15
ikonia	LjL: it can play back at that, so I'd assume sample also	13:15
* jrib didn't expect that hrmph		13:15
jrib	lolmaus: you did « ssh non-working-user@localhost »?	13:15
LjL	ikonia: some cards can play back at 192kHz but not sample. can you test this for me please? "arecord -f dat -r 192000 -D hw:0,0 -d 5 test.wav". if it doesn't support 192kHz, it will say that the "requested" sample rate is different from what you "got"	13:16
ikonia	LjL: not got access to that box at the moment, it's my desktop that's powered off	13:16
ikonia	LjL: I can do it for you though if you remind me	13:16
LjL	ikonia: ok i'll remind you later then, thanks	13:16
Shwaiil	hi ppl	13:17
lolmaus	jrib, yes sir	13:18
jrib	lolmaus: pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config	13:18
lolmaus	jrib, btw, i'm trying SFTP over SSH, not just SSH	13:18
Las_	hi people	13:18
ThE_aLiEn_return	alguma brasileiro ai?	13:19
ThE_aLiEn_return	*algum	13:19
jrib	!br \| ThE_aLiEn_return	13:19
ubottu	ThE_aLiEn_return: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	13:19
ZeeTron	sem aspas!	13:19
Las_	I dunno but sudently my cdrom doesn't work in ubuntu 10.10	13:19
ZeeTron	do that thing of mount ...	13:20
ikonia	ZeeTron: what ?	13:20
ZeeTron	lol	13:20
lolmaus	jrib, but it won't let me in via Putty either... sshd_config should be default: http://pastie.org/1743452	13:20
ikonia	ZeeTron: why is that funny ?	13:20
ZeeTron	my browser has crash	13:21
jrib	lolmaus: what do you mean "either"? You said that « ssh non-working-user@localhost » DOES work, correct?	13:21
ZeeTron	i cant remember how 2 mount a cdrom	13:21
vieira061180	eu sou brasileiro	13:21
Pici	!br \| vieira061180	13:21
ubottu	vieira061180: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	13:21
Las_	If I do --> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom It says that It can't find /dev/sr0	13:21
ZeeTron	but i guess it could help that guy	13:21
ikonia	ZeeTron: if you don't know how to do something, don't offer advice	13:23
ZeeTron	i think that is harware Las_	13:23
ThE_aLiEn_return	! ubottu	13:23
ubottu	Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi \| Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins \| Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots	13:23
ZeeTron	[ikonia]: i know google that	13:23
ThE_aLiEn_return	!br ubottu	13:23
Uboss	I have Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop Edition (Normal Ubuntu), if I would like to change my Ubuntu to Ubuntu Netbook Remix Edition, can I?	13:24
jrib	ThE_aLiEn_return: escreve: /join #ubuntu-br	13:24
coz_	Uboss, open synaptic package manager ,, hit search ,, tyep netbook,,, you probably wanth the gnome one not the kubuntu one	13:25
enoch	hi all	13:25
Peddy	I have a directory at /home/user1/share that I'm sharing. How can I access the directory from another computer, using user2's credentials (on the share computer)?	13:26
enoch	how can i play a video on two ubuntu machines perfectly syncrhronized?	13:26
coz_	Uboss, so look for ubuntu-netbook	13:26
Uboss	coz_, I don't know :P I would like the Netbook edition which says in www.ubuntu.com (I would like to transform into that through upgrade process if possible).	13:26
coz_	Uboss, oh the 11.04	13:26
enoch	...	13:27
Uboss	coz_, yeah but with Netbook's User Interface	13:27
coz_	Uboss, well my suggestion is not to upgrade to 11.04 but clean install,,, however ,, it really is not ready	13:27
lolmaus	jrib, it does work locally (after logging in remotely via my working user). But it does not work directly	13:27
coz_	Uboss, well the similar interface in is ubuntu netbook edition but not sure if it is identical to the natty netbook Unity	13:27
Uboss	coz_, can I transform my ubuntu into ubuntu netbook's edition and stay on 10.04 as I am now?	13:27
jrib	lolmaus: did you see what Pici said about how you created the user?	13:27
coz_	Uboss, sure ,, just install the ubuntu-netbook ,, I would google ubuntu 10.10 netbook screenshots to be sure its what you want	13:28
lolmaus	jrib, i've created my user with the interactive command	13:28
jrib	lolmaus: what interactive command?	13:28
coz_	Uboss, rather google ubuntu 10.04	13:28
lolmaus	jrib, adduser?	13:28
coz_	Uboss, with netbook and take a look at it	13:28
Uboss	coz_, thanks dude. :)	13:28
jrib	lolmaus: why a question mark at the end of that?	13:28
Uboss	have a nice day everyone	13:29
coz_	Uboss, if your system is fairly new it should be able to handle it otherwise mutter,, the compositor will take up resources,,aka a hog	13:29
coz_	Uboss, or wait until the end of April for the release of ubuntu 11.04	13:29
lolmaus	jrib, i don't remember which one of two is interactive :) It created the home folder and stuff. And it lets me in locally.	13:30
Uboss	coz_, I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now. An idea came into my mind today if I would be able to change my Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 or 10.10. Anyway, I will search more and then decide. Thanks!	13:30
jrib	lolmaus: can you pastebin your attempt at sshing remotely and all of the output?	13:31
lolmaus	jrib, FCUK!!!! I'm an idiot	13:31
coz_	Uboss, ok	13:31
lolmaus	jrib, the SSH port is NOT 22	13:31
Uboss	lolmaus :P	13:31
jrib	lolmaus: it is according to what you pasted :/	13:32
qwebirc44173	sudo apt-get install brain	13:32
Peddy	how can I control which users have access to a shared folder?	13:32
qwebirc44173	oops	13:32
ikonia	Peddy: file system permissions	13:32
mih1406	I have a file with a big list and I want to separate it into more than one file	13:34
Peddy	ikonia, even when the permission on the shared folder is 777, I am unable to access it from any account besides the creator account.	13:34
mih1406	is it possible with grep?	13:34
jrib	mih1406: depends on how you want to separate it...	13:34
Dr_Willis	Peddy: access via samba? or on the local system/normal paths?	13:34
ikonia	Peddy: look at the permissions above the folder your in	13:35
k405	mih1406, if u redirect the output with >	13:35
Peddy	Dr_Willis, samba.	13:35
Peddy	ikonia, so if /home/user1 is restricted to user1 only, then /home/user1/share will still be inaccessible by other users?	13:35
mih1406	separate it in any possible way because it is more than 25 MB and want it to be 5 MB each	13:35
ikonia	Peddy: correct	13:35
jrib	mih1406: you can use "split" if you want to split the file strictly by size	13:36
Peddy	ikonia, I see. Thanks for the clarification.	13:36
janybek	hi there	13:36
Dr_Willis	Peddy: if accessing via samba - other users should be able to access it. IF its set up right	13:37
janybek	need some help with gitosis	13:37
amgarchIn9	mih1406: man split; split -l NLINES input	13:37
k405	what is your use case mih1406?	13:37
Peddy	Dr_Willis, I just used the standard nautilus method of sharing options>share	13:37
janybek	join #github	13:37
Dr_Willis	Peddy: a local user2 trying to access /home/user1/share would reqwuire proper permissions on the dir and the dirs above it.	13:37
Dr_Willis	Peddy: douvle check your shareing options and allow the guest share feature i think	13:37
Dr_Willis	Peddy: you may want to give the users a actual samba password also with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'	13:38
mih1406	a file with a big list of emails and usernames each pair in one line and want to split this lone list into lists	13:38
Peddy	Dr_Willis, ah, I understand - that makes perfect sense, I understand now. With this samba password, will it work just as standard system accounts have been working (to access the shares?)	13:38
jrib	mih1406: amgarchIn9 gave you the exact command	13:39
mih1406	i am trying it now	13:39
xelister	open office does not start	13:39
Dr_Willis	Peddy: samba has 10000's of config options. check teh samba-doc package for books on configuring samba	13:39
Dr_Willis	Peddy: personally i just enable the home shares for samba. and thats about it.	13:40
Peddy	Dr_Willis, thanks for your help. Good night!	13:40
dyd	hi all	13:41
oneman	hi	13:41
qwebirc44173	"apm: BIOS not found."	13:42
qwebirc44173	what?	13:42
edbian	qwebirc44173: april fools joke?	13:42
oneman	< C Coder / Advanced User ... Been using natty for a few weeks on my sandy bridge 2500k cpu + h67 chip motherboard, there has been graphics related crashes and messups throughout, is there anything I can do to help ?	13:42
ikonia	qwebirc44173: I asked you if your board supported apm under linux and told you not to be surprised if it didn't	13:42
dyd	i have a problem with backup: at this poing /host/ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.tar it gives this error tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors	13:43
oneman	the app-report gpu thing seems to crash itself...	13:43
qwebirc44173	no edbian	13:43
Dr_Willis	the bios may not support APM. but supports that other method.. APCI?	13:43
dyd	why that happens?	13:43
qwebirc44173	Dr_Willis: apci wont work	13:43
wibo	join pitivi	13:45
wibo	join #pitivi	13:46
qwebirc44173	wibo: /join	13:46
hellomrjack	would this be the right place to ask for help compiling from source?	13:47
jrib	hellomrjack: sure... what are you compiling?	13:47
hellomrjack	jrib: just some support libs for opencv	13:48
qwebirc44173	so Linux doesnt like my mobo	13:49
hellomrjack	jrib: what im having a problem with is that configure isnt picking up my local install in $HOME/local/lib	13:49
BlaDe^	I added a user like: sudo useradd -d /ftp/datafeed -g ftp -p <password> -s /usr/sbin/nologin datafeed	13:49
BlaDe^	but I can't login via vsftpd -- why?	13:49
BlaDe^	it says incorrect pass	13:49
hellomrjack	jrib: i have the path in PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH	13:50
qwebirc44173	should I flash the BIOS?	13:51
qwebirc44173	http://www.pcchipsusa.com/PCCWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=175&DetailName=Bios&DetailDesc=M810%20%20%28V7.1%29&CategoryID=1&MenuID=82&LanID=2	13:51
FloodBot1	qwebirc44173: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	13:51
qwebirc44173	FloodBot1: ?	13:52
jrib	hellomrjack: isn't opencv in the repositories? Why aren't you using apt?	13:52
hellomrjack	jrib: I have to install it locally from source as im not a sudoer on the system	13:53
ubuntu	hi	13:53
Agrouffff	hello	13:53
hellomrjack	jrib: and i have to recompile all of the libs using gcc4.1.2 to make it compatible with the plugin i am using it in	13:53
prx	Hmm, wicd cannot connect to my hostapd net using WPA2 PSK, does is take HEX keys of the appropriate length or are the keys interpreted some other way than hex?	13:54
qwebirc44173	prx: do not use the latest version it has a bug	13:54
qwebirc44173	use the previous one	13:54
qwebirc44173	(not april fools joke)	13:54
prx	qwebirc44173: I'm using what i get with ubuntu 10.10, i guess the faulty version will be masked? (not shipped, whatever)	13:55
ali_	safari46@yahoo.com	13:55
ljsoftnet	hello	13:55
hellomrjack	jrib: is there a specific variable you need to set so it looks in a alternitive location	13:55
guessswh0	what specifically has a bug?	13:55
qwebirc44173	prx: just a sec	13:55
coz_	Dr_Willis, hey guy http://www.delicious.com/dr_willis/ubuntu+tweaks several links are not loading... are they now gone ?	13:55
qwebirc44173	guessswh0: with passwords	13:55
prx	qwebirc44173: take your time	13:56
guessswh0	oh really, a bug with ubuntu? Interesting	13:56
qwebirc44173	prx: I use wicd_1.6.2.2-4_all.deb	13:56
qwebirc44173	guessswh0: no, in an application	13:56
guessswh0	ah	13:56
prx	qwebirc44173: Ic, i have 1.7.0_something	13:56
guessswh0	i get you now	13:56
qwebirc44173	prx: you can join and talk #wicd	13:56
qwebirc44173	guessswh0: do you have a question?	13:56
prx	qwebirc44173: thx...	13:56
jrib	hellomrjack: you can usually pass alternate locations of libraries to ./configure. Try ./configure --help	13:57
MarconM	who know ppa for the kernel update on ubuntu	13:57
guessswh0	no, just wanted to see where the bug lied. I'm an IT security engineer, and didn't know if there was something I didn't know about	13:57
qwebirc44173	it's not a security issue	13:57
qwebirc44173	in wicd	13:58
qwebirc44173	(ot: I hope wicd gets VPN support in next release)	13:58
hellomrjack	jrib: I have tried all of the options in there	13:58
guessswh0	VPN support would be nice	13:59
zider_	hello world	13:59
guessswh0	NSLog(@"Hi there");	14:00
epart	wat is lucyd	14:02
epart	??	14:02
epart	anybody knows about it	14:02
jrib	hellomrjack: you can « man gcc » and see what environment variables it respects, but all that you should need to do is run ./configure with the proper arguments...	14:02
qwebirc44173	!lucid \| epart	14:03
ubottu	epart: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004	14:03
qwebirc44173	epart: but the current one is called Maverick (10.10)	14:03
jrib	hellomrjack: more specifically « man gcc<enter>/ENVIRONMENT<enter> » . But again, I don't see why passing the location to ./configure didn't work.	14:03
qwebirc44173	how can I access cdrom via terminal	14:04
qwebirc44173	tried /media/cdrom	14:04
qwebirc44173	and /dev/cdrom	14:04
prx	qwebirc44173: /dev/sr0?	14:04
qwebirc44173	not a directory	14:05
qwebirc44173	i need to mount it?	14:05
prx	the kernel should detect it... see dmesg \| grep sr0	14:05
prx	oder dmesg \| grep sd	14:05
qwebirc44173	yep detected	14:06
qwebirc44173	now how do i check the files	14:06
ikonia	qwebirc44173: the directory should be in media	14:06
ikonia	qwebirc44173: ls -la /media/	14:06
prx	mount -t iso9660 /dev/whateveritdetected /media/cdrom	14:06
prx	media/cdrom has to exist	14:06
qwebirc44173	ikonia: yes there is a cdrom but empty or something	14:07
mih1406	I want to remove duplicates from a list in a text file?	14:07
ikonia	prx: /media is controlled by hal/dbus on ubuntu, so it will need to create the mount point as hal normally do that for you	14:07
prx	ikonia: thx :)	14:07
llutz	mih1406: sort -u	14:07
qwebirc44173	ikonia: cdrom is not a directory	14:07
prx	mih1406: unniq file > newfile	14:08
prx	uniq	14:08
ikonia	qwebirc44173: pastebin the output of "mount" please	14:08
prx	oh, its uniq file newfile	14:08
mih1406	Linux is Great!!!	14:08
mih1406	but in terminal	14:08
qwebirc44173	lol	14:08
MarconM	how i can to add ppa kernel on ubuntu	14:09
JeffJassky	Hey, guys. My web server keeps crashing (10.04 LTS) and I can't figure out why. I've checked the syslogs but they only show data post-crash. Nothing from before the crash is in the syslogs as if they get truncated on startup. I'm really hoping someone smarter than me could point me in the right direction so I could start diagnosing this server.	14:09
MarconM	i want to stay on 10.04	14:09
ikonia	MarconM: I strongly advise you not to do that	14:09
MarconM	ikoni why	14:09
ikonia	MarconM: why do you need to update the kernel	14:09
ikonia	JeffJassky: what type of crash	14:09
MarconM	ikonia: i use ubuntu 10.04.2 lts ok	14:09
ganeshalpha	hi pls help :( :( :( :(	14:10
ikonia	MarconM: that's fine, why do you need to update the kernel to a PPA version	14:10
MarconM	but i dont want to change my versio	14:10
prx	ikonia: If the kernel in 10.10 crashes hard, youll get empty files (which were open and being written to as of the crash)	14:10
MarconM	just make update my kernel	14:10
ikonia	MarconM: that's fine, why do you need to update the kernel to a PPA version	14:10
ganeshalpha	i jst downloaded ubuntu 11.04 beta 1 and made a usb stick	14:10
ikonia	MarconM: why ? what do you need in the new kernel	14:10
JeffJassky	ikonia: Everything just seems to stop. can't ssh, apache doesn't respond, can't FTP.. until I do a hard reboot and everything comes back online as normal.	14:10
MarconM	ikonia: i have to add ppa	14:10
mm2000	hello. what is the next LTS?	14:10
ikonia	MarconM: why	14:10
ganeshalpha	it boots fine in myd desktop	14:10
ikonia	JeffJassky: do you have console access to the machine, or is it remove	14:10
ikonia	remote	14:11
MarconM	ikonia: whem i make upgrade ... it ll update just the kernel	14:11
ganeshalpha	but it takes forever to load in laptop	14:11
ganeshalpha	:(\	14:11
JeffJassky	ikonia: it's remote. Rackspace hosts it.	14:11
MarconM	it i dont do that my kernel dont change	14:11
ganeshalpha	pls help	14:11
ikonia	MarconM: I'll ask again, why do you need to update the kernel	14:11
ikonia	JeffJassky: is it a physical server or a virtual ?	14:11
mm2000	hello. what is the next LTS?	14:11
JeffJassky	ikonia: virtual.	14:11
MarconM	ikonia: do u know the ppa kernel	14:12
ikonia	MarconM: yes	14:12
ganeshalpha	12.04 will be lts	14:12
qwebirc44173	ok i mounted the cdrom :)	14:12
MarconM	ikonia: do u can say me	14:12
ikonia	JeffJassky: can you get to that server now ?	14:12
qwebirc44173	sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 or cdrom	14:12
ikonia	MarconM: why do you need to upgrade the kernel to a PPA version ?	14:12
JeffJassky	ikonia: yes i have full access to it	14:12
qwebirc44173	one of those worked	14:12
ruan	i think there's an LTS every 2 years, supported for 3 years	14:12
ikonia	JeffJassky: can you connect to it and post me the output of "uname -a" please ?	14:12
ikonia	JeffJassky: change the hostname if you are worried about posting it	14:13
JeffJassky	nah it's alright-- Linux guruz.us 2.6.35.4-rscloud #8 SMP Mon Sep 20 15:54:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux	14:13
mih1406	i want to replace every space with a newline	14:13
qwebirc44173	umount: /media/cdrom: device is busy	14:13
mih1406	in a text file	14:13
ikonia	JeffJassky: ok - this isn't a palm off but advice, that is a modified version of ubuntu (see the kernel version - it's not an ubuntu stock kernel) if the machine is locking its a big possability it's down to the changes rackspace have made	14:13
ikonia	JeffJassky: contact rack space and log a support call explaining this, and let them deal with it, as it's their modified ubuntu version	14:14
llutz	mih1406: use sed or tr	14:14
randomuser	mih1406, http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html	14:14
edoctoor	Is there a way to transfer my Grub2 from the D: drive to the C: drive?	14:14
mih1406	Hey you all, do you really memorieze all linux commands??????	14:14
ruan	mih1406: yes	14:14
wnoronha	Hello	14:14
qwebirc44173	ok unmouted cdrom after leave its dir :)	14:14
randomuser	mih1406, not sure how to do a newline there, but that's your program	14:15
mih1406	I am using Ubuntu since 2007 but I do not memorize any	14:15
ahox	mih1406: and for the commandswitches, we memorized the man command ;-)	14:15
JeffJassky	ikonia: I really don't think it's a rackspace problem. It only started happening after I installed a number of pieces of software a few weeks ago and it seems to crash about once a day or every other day.. I definitely feel that it's a software conflict or configuration issue causing the system to crash.	14:15
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ikonia	qwebirc44173: don't need a running commentory	14:15
mih1406	do you memorize them just like memorizing poems in school?	14:15
qwebirc44173	hehe	14:15
ikonia	JeffJassky: ok - but the version of the OS you are using is mofidied, so there isn't a guartentee of compatability with ubuntu packages	14:15
JeffJassky	ikonia: Ahh I see what you're saying	14:16
ahox	I usually try to memorize the meaning of the command, as in ls = list, sed=stream editor, etc	14:16
ikonia	JeffJassky: they however will have the hypervisor logs and can suggest why it's locking up, or even check the console for error messages, we can't	14:16
JeffJassky	ikonia: Darn really? there's not even a way to get crash logs or anything?	14:16
ahox	btw, is there a fusefs or something like it for the amazon storage cloud?	14:16
mih1406	I will start from now to memorize them	14:16
epart	ubottu: thnks for the info.. i have a PABX server.. asterisk and im using the 10.01.04 lucyd..	14:16
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	14:17
ikonia	JeffJassky: there is, but it would be better to get their logs	14:17
ikonia	JeffJassky: the crash logs could show the symptoms rather than the fault	14:17
ikonia	JeffJassky: their logs will show the fault	14:17
edoctoor	can the bootloader ummm.. I mean the grub2 be created on the C: drive or drive zero?	14:17
edoctoor	if so how?	14:17
JeffJassky	ikonia: Gotchya. I somehow doubt they would actually supply them to me.. so I'd like to find out as much as I can on my end before contacting them..	14:17
randomuser	mih1406, with some things, when you find it, it is so useful that you spend time learning it and get exited about how it can help. Once you know how t eat with a fork instead of fingers, you dont forget its name...	14:18
ikonia	JeffJassky: I think they will, this is their job	14:18
ruan	edoctoor: yes, by installing grub on it and changing boot priority	14:18
dyd	i have a problem with backup: at this poing /host/ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.tar it gives this error tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors	14:18
dyd	*point	14:18
JeffJassky	ikonia: I'll give it a try.. but in the mean time how would I go about finding out as much as I can before I call them?	14:18
bazhang	dyd, wubi install?	14:19
edoctoor	Ok, so how to I install grub2 on C:? and thank you ruan for your help	14:19
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ikonia	JeffJassky: calling them is the first step	14:19
ikonia	JeffJassky: call them and explain the symptomes	14:19
Abhijit	hi	14:19
dyd	bazhang: yes!	14:19
JeffJassky	ikonia: Alright i'll do that. So there's nothing in /var/log that would maybe he helpful for me to know?	14:20
ikonia	JeffJassky: you'll get more worth while info from 3 lines of the hypervisor log, or the error message on screen when it hangs than anything else	14:20
almoxarife	dyd: you are backing up the whole of ubuntu install?	14:21
JeffJassky	ikonia: Well the thing is - it's not hanging.. and I don't know how to induce the hanging.. and I really can't afford for it to hang again because I have about 20 clients websites hosted on it and they're getting pretty upset with me. But if I call them even now do you think they would have logs from the previous crash?	14:21
dyd	almoxarife: i just want to backup all the disk, but i don't need installation files. are host/ubuntu/winboot/ installation files?	14:22
ikonia	JeffJassky: I don't know, and with all respect in the world, if this is a business machine you should have it prepared better and no more about what your doing	14:22
jichunjian	the what	14:22
dyd	i used this command: sudo tar cvpzf /media/LaCie/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/media/LaCie/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /	14:22
ikonia	JeffJassky: your best bet is to log a call with them, and leave it open, then when it next hangs, contact them for the logs/error message on screen, then trouble shoot it from that	14:22
almoxarife	dyd: yes, the wubi install created them	14:23
ikonia	JeffJassky: if you can't deal with that, I suggest uninstalling all the software you installed before it created a problem	14:23
dyd	(i know that --exclude=/media/LaCie/backup.tgz can be removed)	14:23
dyd	so i can just --exclude that folder?	14:23
almoxarife	dyd: you are backing up within ubuntu?	14:23
dyd	almoxarife: yes	14:23
Pirsch	Hello	14:24
edoctoor	PLEASE HELP, me install grub2 (Ubuntu 10.10 grub) to my first drive!!!	14:24
ikonia	!grub2 > edoctoor	14:24
ubottu	edoctoor, please see my private message	14:24
almoxarife	dyd: I would think that backing up your home directory/folder should do it, everything else would be an install?	14:24
salihk	hello guys, i am using ubuntu 10.10 and i installed unity 2d on it but when i try to boot with unity 2d it loads very slowly actually i wait 1 or 2 minutes after the desktop is showed up. I read ubuntu 11.04 comes with unity i wonder that if i upgrade to 11.04 will i suffer same problem did you try it ? what is your impression ? thanks	14:24
edoctoor	Thank you...	14:25
edoctoor	ubottu, Thank you	14:25
ubottu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	14:25
dyd	almoxarife: doing that will keep my desktop settings and other so preferences once i restore the backup on a fresh ubuntu installation?	14:25
jichunjian	ah nobody is here	14:25
Pirsch	I'm using Ubuntu 64. Is there any issues with using KDE programs in Gnome?	14:26
edoctoor	ubottu you have given me a link that I was asking for... that makes you Awesome in my books	14:26
Pirsch	ikonia: Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 64. Are there any issues with using KDE programs in Gnome?	14:26
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	14:26
almoxarife	dyd: it should yes, I also backup /etc because I tweaked some confs	14:26
ikonia	Pirsch: why are you asking me ?	14:26
dyd	almoxarife: thank you, i'll try that	14:26
Pirsch	ikonia: cause I've been here before and found you to be quite helpful.	14:27
ikonia	JeffJassky: 1400+ people in here	14:27
coz_	jichunjian, you cannot see this?	14:27
ikonia	Pirsch: using KDE applications in gnome is not ideal as it's a different graphics engine, but should work fine	14:27
n2i	Hi! Please help me to fix this error: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: midori is broken or not fully installed	14:27
Pirsch	ikonia: Ok, thanks. That's all I needed,... today. :-)	14:27
salihk	no idea ? strange :)	14:28
SupeR_NovA	How can I install nvida a live cd 10.10 beta as a test	14:30
SupeR_NovA	?	14:30
ikonia	SupeR_NovA: same as a desktop install	14:30
almoxarife	n2i: synaptic should fix it	14:30
ikonia	SupeR_NovA: however you may have problems as a reboot is needed	14:30
n2i	almoxarife: really? how to?	14:30
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Stava	How can I set up a umask for an ext4 partition?	14:31
n2i	I cannot open synaptic :'(	14:31
almoxarife	n2i: can't why?	14:31
ikonia	Stava: same as any other partition, the umask command	14:32
n2i	almoxarife: there is and error mess: E: The package midori needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.	14:32
n2i	E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.	14:32
Stava	ikonia, im pretty sure that the man page says that only fat/ntfs may have umask	14:32
ikonia	Stava: they don't	14:32
Stava	ikonia, oh, cool, thanks	14:32
ikonia	type "umask" and you can see your users mask	14:32
SuNotisima	howhi	14:32
SupeR_NovA	ikonia, trick ??!?!	14:32
ikonia	SupeR_NovA: what ?	14:32
SuNotisima	morning, I need my modem's /dev/ id for wvdial connection. I don't know how I fond it	14:33
Stava	ikonia, I want one umask for /home (is a partition) and one for the rest of the system (/etc/profile)	14:33
ikonia	Stava: umasks are user based, not partition/milesystem based	14:33
ikonia	Stava: man umask	14:33
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Stava	ikonia, the root of my problems is that i want 077 or 022 umask in /home and 000 or 002 everywhere else (shared locations)	14:34
ikonia	Stava: ok, as I said, umask is a user based thing, not file system	14:34
qwebirc44173	hahaha, poweroff works in archlinux	14:35
n2i	This is what I get when try to install midori http://paste.ubuntu.com/588245/	14:35
bazhang	!ot > qwebirc44173	14:35
ubottu	qwebirc44173, please see my private message	14:35
qwebirc44173	bazhang: not offtopic because it's related with my problem I have in ubuntu	14:36
qwebirc44173	:)	14:36
qwebirc44173	it's just the a conclusion	14:36
bazhang	qwebirc44173, save the running commentary	14:36
ikonia	n2i: remove the http://paste.ubuntu.com/588245/	14:36
ikonia	oops	14:36
ikonia	n2i: remove the file from /var/cache/apt/archives and try again	14:36
qwebirc44173	bazhang: sudo poweroff does not working in ubuntu maverick but works in archlinux.	14:36
qwebirc44173	anyway	14:37
iceroot	qwebirc44173: halt	14:37
ikonia	!info midori	14:37
ubottu	midori (source: midori): fast, lightweight graphical web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4-3 (maverick), package size 804 kB, installed size 2816 kB	14:37
qwebirc44173	iceroot: not a change in ubuntu :)	14:37
qwebirc44173	im gonna try another version	14:37
SuNotisima	how do I find my 3g modem's /dev/ address?	14:38
n2i	ikonia: I have removed it from /var/cache..	14:38
iceroot	qwebirc44173: ? you are searching for a way to shutdown the pc from the cli?	14:38
gordonjcp	SuNotisima: when you plug it in, look at the output of dmesg	14:38
ikonia	n2i: try to install again	14:38
n2i	But still get that error :(	14:38
ikonia	n2i: remove the package from the cache archives again, so sudo apt-get update first, then sudo apt-get install for the package	14:39
SuNotisima	gordonjcp: it is plugged in (internal)	14:39
qwebirc44173	iceroot: the problem are not the commands, it's the kernel. check #ubuntu logs if you want to know my problem bye	14:39
gordonjcp	in 10.04, how can I replace the "volume control" at the top with one that actually... controls the volume?	14:39
n2i	ikonia: yes, I'm doing it now	14:39
ikonia	n2i: ok	14:39
iceroot	qwebirc44173: sorry i dont search the whole logs for a problem which i never saw on any machine	14:39
qwebirc44173	too bad	14:40
SuNotisima	i do find it in lsusb, but not in dmesg? possible?	14:40
n2i	nooooo...I also get error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/midori_0.3.3-0.1~llwkt1_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 127	14:40
ikonia	n2i: what command caused that problem ?	14:41
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n2i	sudo apt-get install midori	14:41
ikonia	n2i: looks like a bug with that package then	14:42
n2i	no, that is sudo apt-get upgrade	14:42
ikonia	n2i: what version of ubuntu	14:42
ruan	n2i: what happens if you try installing it with aptitude?	14:42
n2i	ikonia: Lucid	14:42
ikonia	!info dpkg-maintscript-helper	14:42
ubottu	Package dpkg-maintscript-helper does not exist in maverick	14:42
ikonia	rats	14:42
ikonia	!info midori lucid	14:43
thauriswulfa	QUESTION:http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday01april2011-070802ist.php WHY this happens with exaile ?	14:43
ubottu	midori (source: midori): fast, lightweight graphical web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 759 kB, installed size 2708 kB	14:43
n2i	ikonia: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/588251/	14:43
ruan	!find dpkg-maintscript	14:44
ubottu	File dpkg-maintscript found in dpkg	14:44
ruan	!find dpkg-maintscript-helper	14:44
ikonia	n2i: where are you getting that package from	14:44
ubottu	File dpkg-maintscript-helper found in dpkg	14:44
n2i	ikonia: I have added midori ppa	14:44
ikonia	n2i: there you go then, nothing to do with ubuntu, contact the PPA maintainer	14:45
ikonia	n2i: why don't you use the version in the ubuntu repo	14:45
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n2i	ikonia: I wanna newer version :(	14:45
ikonia	n2i: ok, contact the PPA maintainer then, PPA's are not supported and use at your own risk	14:45
ruan	!latest	14:46
ubottu	Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.	14:46
thauriswulfa	http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday01april2011-070802ist.php	14:46
ikonia	thauriswulfa: you've already posted that, please stop	14:46
thauriswulfa	k	14:47
n2i	ikonia: so..there is no way to fix now? :(	14:48
ikonia	n2i: we don't support it, contact the PPA maintainer	14:48
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n2i	ikonia: yes, I see! Thank you!	14:50
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genjix	anybody know how to view system emails?	14:52
ikonia	genjix: system emails ?	14:53
genjix	yeah like from cron	14:53
ikonia	genjix: do you mean emails that are sent to root for example ?	14:53
ikonia	genjix: "sudo mail"	14:53
genjix	on my local machine, i get emails sent to mutt	14:54
genjix	i want to read the crontab emails on the remote machine :p	14:54
ikonia	genjix: login to the remote machine and type "sudo mail"	14:54
genjix	ok so i need mailutils	14:55
genjix	thanks	14:55
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ikonia	just login to the remote machine and type "sudo mail" that's it	14:55
genjix	mail doesn't exist.	14:55
ikonia	should do	14:55
ikonia	installed by default I thought	14:55
desero	Hi, I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on a PowerBook G4 and double clicking on the thouchpad works like a rightclicking when in Gnome, but if i try using it in XFCE4 nothing happens.	14:55
JeffJassky	ikonia: Thanks for the help. Rackspace didn't have any console logs or anything they could go over with me but they did make a few suggestions. He said that the symptoms seemed indicative of running out of memory? also showed me how to access older (pre-crash) logs and showed me a service i can use to monitor my server with email alerts and such	14:56
ikonia	JeffJassky: that's nonsense	14:56
CookieMonster	i want a working tv viewer for my philips tv chip tv tuner anyone one	14:56
ikonia	JeffJassky: it won't be out of memory fromt he symptoms you've said	14:56
desero	What is the difference of running XFCE4 and Gnome, do they run a different xorg.conf or something?	14:56
JeffJassky	ikonia: no?	14:56
ikonia	desero: totally different desktop setups	14:57
desero	ikonia: yes, but don't they use the same xorg.conf?	14:57
ikonia	JeffJassky: see what happens	14:57
ikonia	desero: xorg.conf isn't used	14:57
genjix	thanks ikonia, that worked.	14:58
ikonia	genjix: mega,	14:58
genjix	i had to install mailutils then run 'mail' :)	14:58
genjix	fyi	14:58
SupeR_NovA	How can I install nvida a live cd 10.10 beta as a test	14:58
randomuser	desero, it's really easy to install xfce, log out, and log mack in with it . Just see what it does.	14:58
tycable	Hello, what's the meaning of 'ctl' int the 'sysctl' command, please?	14:58
ikonia	genjix: surprised not install by default, but hey ho	14:58
JeffJassky	ikonia: using the 'free' command I get: Mem - total: 508272, used:429912, free:78360	14:58
genjix	ubuntu server edition	14:58
genjix	not desktop	14:58
ikonia	JeffJassky: no surprised there	14:58
desero	randomuser: what do you mean by "log mack" with it?	14:58
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terry	desero: ikonia xorg.conf is used if it is there, but it does not exist by default. When third party video drivers are installed, (like Nvidia ones), xorg.conf is created in order to run the third party driver.	14:59
JeffJassky	ikonia: is that safe enough?	14:59
ikonia	genjix: even more reason for it to be there by default	14:59
ikonia	JeffJassky: tons free there	14:59
genjix	l	14:59
genjix	k	14:59
ruan	desero: back	14:59
desero	lol, sorry :)	14:59
randomuser	desero, i mean install the xfce package group, and log out of your user account. on the bottom of the login screen you can choose your desktop environment, choose xfce	14:59
desero	I have tried logging in and out and comparing the different applicatins running in the background.	15:00
DirtyDawg	i did tah ^ and it still used the same amount of memory as the ubuntu desktop (gnome) i thought xfce was supposed to be faster	15:00
desero	I am pretty sure, this has something to do with synaptics driver wich enables this touchpad behavior.	15:00
ikonia	desero: doubtul, more likley your desktop	15:01
tycable	hello, what's the meaning of 'ctl' in the command 'sysctl'?	15:01
ikonia	tycable: control, it's just a command name, it means nothing in reality	15:01
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tycable	ikonia, and I know the apache also has a command named 'apache2ctl', so I feel it may have some meaning.	15:02
ikonia	tycable: they are just command names	15:03
desero	ikonia: i found some config files for X in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, one of which is named 60-magictrackpad.conf	15:03
desero	and then 50-synaptics.conf	15:03
magnushc	Im running gnome environment, is there a way to remove the global menu bar for kde applications?	15:03
desero	I think they have something to do with this.	15:03
tycable	ikonia, thanks, I got it.	15:03
randomuser	desero, sorry, i missed your initial question; i thought you were simply curious about desktop environments. input devices are handled by HAL these days, odd that you'd have issues with a differend environment	15:03
ikonia	desero: it's unlikey to be X as it works in one desktop but not the other and they both use the same X setup	15:03
desero	That is what I thought, but I can't find any application running on Gnome that is not running in XFCE4 which would handle this behavior.	15:04
randomuser	desero, try something like lxde, maybe. Its not that bad.	15:05
desero	I thought maybe that Ubuntu runs different xorg.conf files for different environments.	15:05
pratheep	!bot	15:05
ubottu	Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi \| Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins \| Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots	15:05
ikonia	desero: no, xorg has nothing to do with the enviornment	15:05
randomuser	desero, then again, ubuntu's gnome implementation is hardly standard	15:05
UDPError	Hey guys. So I've already asked this question but I had to make sure it's the right answer. I have a dual booted system running Windows 7 and Fedora 13. I want to change Fedora for Ubuntu however, Fedora is a LVM.. Can I still use the Ubuntu Live CD to replace Fedora? is there a certain thing I need to do	15:05
JeffJassky	ikonia: Do you know of any particularly good books I could pick up on ubuntu server administration?	15:05
ikonia	JeffJassky: not really,	15:06
JeffJassky	ikonia: Any particularly good websites with walk-through tutorials targeted towards newcomers?	15:06
ikonia	https://help.ubuntu.com	15:06
d3vic3	@jeffjassky : http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Ubuntu-Server-Administration-Professional/dp/1590599233	15:06
bazhang	!manual > JeffJassky	15:07
ubottu	JeffJassky, please see my private message	15:07
JeffJassky	d3vic3: Thanks.. yeah saw that book.. a few people said it was a little off..	15:07
SuNotisima	how can I find my 3g modem's /dev/ id?	15:07
ikonia	SuNotisima: why do you need it ?	15:07
JeffJassky	bazhang thanks - though I'm looking for more server related information. I'm not running a gui unubtu.	15:08
SuNotisima	I need to connect with wvdial/commandline	15:08
SuNotisima	need it for my wvdial.conf	15:08
desero	randomuser: i'm not sure that would fix the problem, I also tried icewm, double padding the touchpad doesn't work there either.	15:08
ikonia	SuNotisima: dmesg should show it when you plug it in	15:08
desero	ikonia: any ideas on that application would control the behavior of the touchpad?	15:08
desero	s/that/what	15:08
ikonia	desero: the desktop	15:08
desero	ikonia: Gnome it self?	15:09
SuNotisima	ikonia: it's internal, I can't "plug it in" :/ i find it in lsusb, but not in dmesg	15:09
ikonia	or xfce	15:09
ikonia	SuNotisima: odd that it's internal if it's usb	15:09
ikonia	SuNotisima: it may not have a device file if it's not supported in linux	15:10
ikonia	SuNotisima: do you know if it's supported in linux	15:10
SuNotisima	ikonia: it did work like a charm with networkmanager, but nm sure sucks dockey d*ck	15:10
SuNotisima	and gas stopped working	15:10
pcpower	lol	15:10
SuNotisima	*has	15:10
ikonia	SuNotisima: if you need to star out a word, don't use it	15:10
pcpower	I just disable it	15:10
pcpower	but then it makes firefox startup in offline mode	15:11
pcpower	every time	15:11
rigved	UDPError: afaik, carry on with the steps that you had listed.	15:11
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ikonia	SuNotisima: if you do ifconfig -a does it show up ?	15:11
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SuNotisima	ikonia: nope	15:11
SuNotisima	i got eth0, lo, wlan0 and wwan0	15:12
JeffJassky	How can I read zipped logs? like syslog.2.gz	15:12
ikonia	what's wwman0 ?	15:12
ZarroBoogs	JeffJassky: zless	15:12
ikonia	JeffJassky: unzip them or use zcat	15:12
SuNotisima	ikonia: i don't know	15:12
pcpower	or vim	15:12
ikonia	pcpower: vim won't do compression	15:13
SuNotisima	ikonia: well it may be 3g	15:13
desero	ikonia: haha, you were, right, I was overcomplicating things like usually. :)	15:13
iceroot	JeffJassky: zless	15:13
JeffJassky	ikonia: Thanks. And if I wanted to download my entire /var directory to my local machine what would be the easiest way to do that? zip -r /var/log myLogFiles, move it to my apache document root and download it?	15:13
JeffJassky	*var/log directory	15:13
ikonia	JeffJassky: tar it up, gzip compress it, scp/ftp/http download it	15:13
ikonia	JeffJassky: you don't really want all your var directory though	15:14
JeffJassky	ikonia: yeah I meant my /var/log directory	15:14
desero	ikonia: I can select different mouse devices under XFCE4 settings.	15:14
bazhang	dir hi	15:14
dir	bazhang: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.	15:14
ikonia	JeffJassky: you don't want all your /var/log directory	15:14
JeffJassky	ikonia: I really appreciate your help today. I feel like I've already learned a lot..	15:14
pratheep	sory dir is not more	15:14
ikonia	JeffJassky: not a problem	15:14
bazhang	pratheep, please remove it now	15:15
pratheep	how i remove	15:15
pratheep	sory	15:15
bazhang	pratheep, or I will	15:15
SuNotisima	it must be wwan0 then, but I didn't find the /dev/ id yet	15:16
ikonia	SuNotisima: network cards don't have device files in /dev	15:17
SuNotisima	where is it then?	15:17
SuNotisima	i always thought it was there, because /dev/ttyusb* and all those are there too	15:18
llutz	SuNotisima: mine (option 3g) uses /dev/ttyHS0 (..HS3)	15:18
skywu	:)	15:18
llutz	SuNotisima: usb 0af0:7601 (vid-pid)	15:19
SuNotisima	llutz: thanks but mine tells me "no suhc file or directory"	15:19
llutz	SuNotisima: ls -l /dev/tty* something related maybe? some modems(?) use ttyACMx	15:20
SuNotisima	tried that before, no luck :(	15:20
SuNotisima	tried ACM, USB …	15:21
janolap1	Hi, I would like to know how I can configure my ubuntu server (10.10) to resolv the FQDN name of my other computers. I can do it from another ubuntu box (8.04), but I can't remember how I did this...	15:21
BluesKaj	Hey folks	15:22
meganerdca	janolap1: you could put entries in /etc/hosts	15:22
sagi_	hi	15:22
meganerdca	janolap1: you could also setup a DNS server on your LAN, probably overkill... probably	15:22
pcpower	you could use WINS	15:23
janolap1	meganerdca : Ok, but on the other box, I didn't do that ...	15:23
sagi_	Can anybody tell , once i have restored my unbuntu virtual to a previous snapshot, how to recover files ?	15:23
sagi_	:(	15:23
guampa	WINS is deprecated	15:23
ddbt_nl	does anyone here why elementary os looks so sharp compared to the soft look of ubuntu natty?	15:23
SuNotisima	can't I display the device id with some command?	15:23
janolap1	pcpower WINS ?	15:23
sagi_	I have lost files after recovering the snapshot	15:23
sagi_	HELP	15:23
llutz	SuNotisima: lsusb	15:23
SuNotisima	yeah, but I need the address	15:23
SuNotisima	/dev/* or alike	15:24
bazhang	ddbt_nl, thats offtopic here as its not a supported derivative	15:24
janolap1	meganerdca : There's already a DNS on the LAN. But when I type "ping proxy" for example, my new server doesn't resolve	15:24
guampa	ddbt_nl: that's a guru question, might want to ask in ##linux	15:24
janolap1	meganerdca : but the old one does !	15:25
meganerdca	janolap1: is this a business LAN?	15:25
janolap1	meganerdca : yes	15:25
llutz	SuNotisima: what model/make is it (usb-id)?	15:25
meganerdca	janolap1: check /etc/resolv.conf	15:25
janolap1	It's the same ont the 2 hosts	15:25
ddbt_nl	guampa: why is that a guru q?	15:25
meganerdca	janolap1: there should be a line that says "search my.domain.tld"	15:25
sagi_	?	15:25
SuNotisima	llutz: it's a ericsson F3507g (0bdb:1900)	15:25
meganerdca	janolap1: also make sure that nameserver line points to the proper name servers	15:25
SuNotisima	internal 3g modem in my lenovo s10	15:26
janolap1	meganerdca : it's the same ont the 2 hosts, and serach my.domain.tld is present (with the good value)	15:26
guampa	ddbt_nl: dunno. just seemed to me	15:26
ddbt_nl	guampa: did you notice that difference too?	15:26
magnushc	Does anyone like the global menu bar, that is not sitting on a netbook?	15:26
bazhang	!ot \| ddbt_nl	15:26
ubottu	ddbt_nl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	15:26
ZarroBoogs	sagi_: I'd guess that any changes are completely lost. I'd ask the support of whatever virtualization product you're using though.	15:26
bazhang	ddbt_nl, please ask in their support forums.	15:26
meganerdca	janolap1: what happens when you type "host proxy"	15:26
llutz	SuNotisima: it "should" have /dev/ttyACMx http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ericsson_F3507g_Mobile_Broadband_Module	15:27
janolap1	meganerdca : I'm trying	15:27
meganerdca	janolap1: then compare to "host proxy <ip of dns server>"	15:27
llutz	SuNotisima: grep CONFIG_USB_ACM /boot/config-$(uname-r)	15:27
ZarroBoogs	sagi_: If its virtualbox, their support is in #vbox	15:27
desero	thanks :9	15:28
prx	ok, wicd (even latest prerelease) cannot connect to my WLAN... how can i get my networkmanager panel icon back? starting it from a console shows me " (nm-applet:10306): WARNING : <WARN> constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager." dbus however is up and running	15:28
llutz	SuNotisima: ls -l /dev/cdc-wdm0	15:28
janolap1	meganerdca : I'm reinstalling the system, hold on 2 minutes...	15:28
meganerdca	janolap1: ok	15:28
SuNotisima	llutz: ACM1: ATZ / ERROR / Bad init string. — ACM2: ATZ / Sending: ATQ0 / Re-Sending: ATZ / Modem not responding	15:29
quiel	hi, does anyone know if there is a way to show the battery status of a connected android device in ubuntu?	15:29
meganerdca	janolap1: I am going to go and get a coffee, BRB	15:29
SuNotisima	ATM3: no such file…	15:29
JeffJassky	hey, guys. how can I see what time my server is set to through SSH?	15:29
SuNotisima	*ACM	15:29
ZarroBoogs	JeffJassky: date	15:29
meganerdca	JeffJassky: type "date"	15:29
llutz	SuNotisima: ACM1 responds at least, so there is "something"	15:29
SuNotisima	llutz: ACM2 goes one step further but also fails	15:30
dorgan	anyone going to BarCamp tomorrow?	15:31
ikonia	dorgan: nothing to do with ubuntu, so offtopic here	15:31
dorgan	oops wrong channel	15:31
dorgan	lol	15:31
dorgan	sorry	15:31
ikonia	dorgan: not a problem	15:31
cognac-gamma	re I need a wee help with wireless, works everywhere else just in the new flat not now i'm on wired	15:32
dec3pti0n	how come ubuntu doesn't come with xen kernel like debian does ?	15:32
ikonia	dec3pti0n: xen isn't the selected hypervisor, you can install it if you want it	15:32
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dec3pti0n	ikonia: kvm is I assume ?	15:32
cognac-gamma	just made iwlist scan if it helps	15:33
dec3pti0n	are there pkgs somewhere for it ? or needs source install and new kernel compiled ? from what I have found on docs kind of looks that way	15:33
SuNotisima	llutz: that manual page you sent me says I need to "send commands to /dev/ttyACM1" and I can use "any terminal terminal program like cu or minicom" - I don't have either of these?	15:34
Potter	hi	15:34
Potter	there	15:34
deshymers	I've got an issue where my desktop is bigger then my monitor, I am using ubuntu 10.10 and the latest 260 nvidia drivers, I've tried editing the xorg.conf file and changing the resolution in the nvidia config manager, any ideas on how to fix this?	15:34
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: what kind of problems are you having?	15:34
rigved	deshymers: which ubuntu version are you using? it is recommended to use the default nvidia drivers that come with your ubuntu version	15:35
randomuser	deshymers, have you attempted adjusting your display to a larger size?	15:35
llutz	SuNotisima: apt-get install minicom sry have to go, good luck	15:36
SuNotisima	llutz: kthx	15:36
deshymers	rigved: 10.10 and latest nvidia driver	15:36
SuNotisima	can't install though, netbook is offline	15:36
deshymers	randomuser: yes bigger and smaller	15:36
HackeMate	hello, i am trying to recover grub after installing windows	15:36
HackeMate	i go to a livecd and i execute these commands	15:36
meganerdca	SuNotisima: do you have gtkterm installed?	15:37
HackeMate	sudo mkdir /mnt/sda2; sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda3; sudo chroot /mnt/sda3	15:37
HackeMate	and the last command fails	15:37
randomuser	deshymers, the phisical display. have you looked at the settings on the monitor itself, maybe an auto adjust?	15:37
HackeMate	it says chroot cannot run command /bin/bash	15:37
Wanda	gretong gretong	15:37
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randomuser	HackeMate, is bash installed on sda3?	15:38
cognac-gamma	meganderca: iwlist scan output helps?	15:38
rigved	deshymers: and what about the nvidia config settings manager. there's one that comes with the nvidia drivers	15:38
HackeMate	randomuser: i believe so, is the linux partition	15:38
deshymers	randomuser: I cant because it is greyed out on my monitor viewsonic vx2835	15:38
deshymers	rigved: yes I've tried that manager	15:38
cognac-gamma	meganderca: cannot connet to the wireless network, tried to troubleshoot, got no idea	15:38
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: well, I guest first is what exactly are you trying to do, and what is the problem.	15:38
rigved	deshymers: System > Administration > NVIDIA X Server Settings	15:38
rigved	deshymers: ok	15:39
randomuser	deshymers, try moving your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup (so the system has to make a new one) then log out and back in	15:39
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: you could paste it into pastebin.ubuntu.com, but I don't know what I am looking for	15:39
deshymers	randomuser: I've tried that before but I will do it again	15:39
Zealous	i got a question, is it possible to make a shell script that would open firefox using a proxy and then close it and open another one using a different proxy	15:39
randomuser	try removing it, running nvidia-xconfig, then restart gdm	15:39
deshymers	randomuser: ok	15:40
timposey	I am trying to change my password back to a password that I used in the past, but Ubuntu will not let me, how can I change this?	15:40
Guest39723	oneconf lucid?	15:40
Anon45356765434	hackemate: what about imstalling grub from cd?	15:41
cognac-gamma	meganderca: i pasted it there	15:41
HackeMate	im doing it from a live cd, i thought its the way	15:41
deshymers	randomuser: no dice same issue	15:41
HackeMate	i fixed the chroot, the home and the dev were mounted in different patitions	15:41
cognac-gamma	meganderca: cant be a driver issue cos everywhere else wireless works fine	15:41
Guest39723	grub , cd, ? reinstall it >?	15:42
HackeMate	i have the prompt now, and i try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda and it says grub-probe cant find a device for /boot/grub	15:42
deshymers	randomuser: its not liek when the resolution is to big and you can scroll around the desktop with your mouse, its like 30px or so to big all around	15:42
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: are you using network manager to configure the wifi network?	15:42
cognac-gamma	meganderca: ty for your attention anyhow	15:42
cognac-gamma	yep	15:42
Guest39723	is there any package for fixing grub ?	15:42
cognac-gamma	tried wifi radar, doesn't help	15:43
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: anything in /var/log/daemon.log that might indicate the problem?	15:43
cognac-gamma	megandrca: i've triesd wifi radar, doesn't help	15:43
Guest39723	i need such oneconf sync for lucid	15:44
S74rk7	anyone know off-hand what the difference of an Ubuntu-Alternate dvd compared to the Ubuntu-Desktop??	15:44
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: I have never used wifi radar	15:44
meganerdca	S74rk7: it is a text based installer instead of the GUI one	15:45
Abhijit	hi	15:45
Abhijit	help. this error while trying to compile lifeograph latest version http://pastebin.com/d7TB1ZV5	15:45
Abhijit	help	15:45
meganerdca	S74rk7 it is based off of the Debian installer. I prefer it actually.	15:45
Guest39723	alternate dvd?	15:45
S74rk7	meganerdca: more configuration available?	15:45
meganerdca	S74rk7: there used to be some differences, like like whole disk encyption. I don't know if this is still the case.	15:46
S74rk7	meganerdca: Excellent... its the option to encrypt different partitions etc I am looking for... on the GUI Installs of ubuntu + kubuntu I seem to only have the option to encrypt the whole folder	15:47
Guest39723	how+repairing+grub+simple	15:47
BluesKaj	S74rk7, the alternate install allows encryption of various ext partitions	15:48
randomuser	deshymers, try xvidtune	15:48
cognac-gamma	megandrca: sent to pastbin the log	15:49
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: you will have to put the url in a message here	15:49
S74rk7	Guest39723: Alternate dvd... when you are downloading your distro of linux - be it ubuntu, kubuntu etc if you looks there was an iso called "Alternate" - I've been told its a text based install - rather than the GUI version on the Desktop versions of the distros...	15:49
deshymers	randomuser: ok I'll give it a go, thanks	15:50
cognac-gamma	megandrca: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588277/	15:50
S74rk7	BluesKaj: excellent... thanks mate	15:50
cognac-gamma	megandrca: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588272/	15:50
=== Guest39723 is now known as Relax_times
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: looks like a problem with the saleem1234 nm profile. Delete it then recreate it.	15:51
S74rk7	I have 4GB RAM - I read in a few articles that you should make your swap area at least twice the size of your available ram... so I've an 8GB Swap area - does this all sound ok? or have you guys anything I should watch out for?	15:52
=== Relax_times is now known as monggo
erUSUL	S74rk7: no; it is not ok. the twice as much swap as ram is a rule from the last century when you had 16 o 32 MiB of RAM ....	15:53
DJones	S74rk7: The double your memory for swap size goes back a few years when computers had lower amounts of memory	15:53
meganerdca	S74rk7: the 2x RAM size is not that usefull anymore given how much RAM we typically have	15:53
cognac-gamma	megandrca: thanks, but tried already	15:54
meganerdca	S74rk7: of course given the size of most hard drives it does not really matter	15:54
ZarroBoogs	S74rk7: Unless this is a computer that you plan to hibernate on, you won't need that much swap.	15:54
timposey	I am trying to change my password back to a password that I used in the past, but Ubuntu will not let me. It is saying that the new password is too similar, how can I change this?	15:54
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: there is not a lot of info that log snippet. Is this a wpa protected AP?	15:54
cognac-gamma	meganderca: i think so how to conclude it?	15:55
Dr_Willis	timposey: you could do 'sudo passwd username' and i think it will skip any security 'settings'	15:55
S74rk7	OK so its not that necessary really unless I'm looking to hibernate etc... but is there any issues this can cause?	15:55
meganerdca	cognac-gamma: check the router settings?	15:55
meganerdca	S74rk7: large swapspace just takes up disk space, not a big deal	15:56
S74rk7	meganerdca: OK thanks :)	15:56
ruan	S74rk7: im running without a swap, havent had any issues so far. its been 3 weeks now	15:56
prx	running the networkmanager config gui, and finally using nmcli i got my wlan running (lacking the applet)	15:56
meganerdca	S74rk7: it is not used if it is not needed	15:56
Dr_Willis	S74rk7: i alwyas put about 512mb of swap on ever system i make.. at a minimal	15:56
ruan	3gb of ram btw	15:56
Dr_Willis	live cd;s can use swap :) and can get confused if theres none. so i keep some on all my box's just in case.	15:57
S74rk7	is there any advantages to having such a large swap area other than being able to hibernate a busy system?	15:57
ruan	!swap	15:57
ubottu	swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info	15:57
meganerdca	I have 4 GiB of RAM in my laptop and an 11 GiB swapspace	15:57
ruan	o_O	15:57
monggo	what... 2x is ancient rule one !!? should i resize swap?	15:57
Dr_Willis	if you system doset need 5+gb of swap.. then you dont gain anything by having 10+gb either. :)	15:57
prx	having too much swap can cause trouble if a mem leaking proces eats up all your ram	15:58
Dr_Willis	monggo: depedns on your needs. and f you use hibernate	15:58
prx	it delays the action of the OOM killer	15:58
meganerdca	monggo: it is an old rule of thumb, only resize if you really need the disk space, otherwise don't worry about it	15:58
prx	wasting 11Gig on swap seem insane, doesnt it?	15:58
meganerdca	prx: only if you are wasting it	15:59
prx	was that default?	15:59
meganerdca	prx: even then with a 500 GB hard drive, its not like I would notice. Yes it was the default	15:59
ruan	is it ok to partition on a drive that has a partition mounted, but to remove unmounted partitions on the drive	15:59
ruan	?	15:59
meganerdca	prx: besides, I regularly need a lot of swap space	15:59
Dr_Willis	ruan: i think you can.	16:00
ruan	Dr_Willis: thanks	16:00
prx	meganerdca: what do you regularly need swap space for?	16:00
ruan	though to resize my main partition, i'll need a livecd	16:00
meganerdca	prx: lots of apps, a couple of VMs	16:01
ruan	i hope my usb works this time	16:01
monggo	should i allocated 160 GB for swap with my RAM 1GB?	16:01
ruan	monggo: no way, your computer will never use that much	16:01
ZarroBoogs	monggo: swap is akin to the pagefile on Windows.	16:01
ruan	monggo: at most 4gb of swap, no more	16:02