[00:00] <ddbt_nl> DaPenguin: i know about tabs.. was just looking for a way to split the screen in VI
[00:00] <ddbt_nl> lmontrieux: the last one, that was the one i was looking for.. a split screen in vi
[00:00] <trism> ddbt_nl: I find NERDTree useful with vim, browse the files on one side, and hit o to open them in a window or t in a new tab
[00:01] <DaPenguin> ddbt_nl, don't know how to do it in vim, emacs its ctrl-x, then ctrl-arrows to switch windows
[00:01] <lmontrieux> ddbt_nl, sorry, can't remember from the top of my head. In emacs it's C-x 2 or C-x 3, but in vim, I don't know
[00:01] <maco> ddbt_nl: :split
[00:02] <maco> ddbt_nl: or for a vertical split:   :vsplit
[00:02] <ddbt_nl> : split?
[00:02] <ok_wait> what can i do to make network manager stop disconnecting and reconnecting my shared wired connection? it's like a child playing with a light switch. has anybody heard of this?
[00:02] <maco> ddbt_nl: no space
[00:02] <ddbt_nl> i know
[00:02] <ddbt_nl> i'll try it out
[00:02] <maco> ddbt_nl: ctrl+w and arrow keys to move around
[00:02] <ok_wait> i'm using pinguy with ubuntu 10.10 (gnome)
[00:03] <DaPenguin> ok_wait, is it going through a router or a switch?
[00:04] <ok_wait> if it's connected directly to the other computer or going through a switch, it still does it :/
[00:04] <ddbt_nl> maco: and how can i open 2 separate files then? i mean.. now i'm editing the same file in 2 windows
[00:05] <DaPenguin> ddbt_nl, try opening the second file in the second window
[00:05] <maco> ddbt_nl: :e filename
[00:05] <ddbt_nl> maco: tryin'
[00:06] <AuroraX> How can i install GCC witthout having MAKE installed? Cuz i need MAKE to install GCC and vice versa :O
[00:06] <rcmaehl> ☣☢ <- why can't some people not on linux see these?
[00:06] <ok_wait> i have cricket broadband now (usb wifi modem) as ppp0. if i leave the cable connected for too long nm disconnects the ppp0
[00:06] <maco> rcmaehl: using a font that doesnt have them?
[00:06] <rcmaehl> maco: idk ask them
[00:07] <maco> rcmaehl: thats the only reason i can think of why they couldnt
[00:07] <hp> Hi converting hs basketball video to quicktime how do i add quicktime or mov to Winff
[00:07] <maco> AuroraX: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:07] <ok_wait> DaPenguin, to answer your question: no
[00:09] <irvie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/588038/
[00:09] <irvie> errr
[00:09] <AuroraX> maco: will that work without having nor gcc nor make nor nothing (i have apt-get) installed?
[00:09] <Xiol> How do I stop Server 10.04 from clearing the screen after the boot messages have been show, but before the login prompt? Nothing in rc.local or issue...
[00:09] <maco> AuroraX: yes, thats the *usual* way to get those things
[00:10] <erkan^> !chrome-os
[00:10] <AuroraX> maco: thanks! it will be very useful :) my friend bought a sheevaplug PC and that bring a Debian for AMR processors that has nothing installed on it
[00:10] <aeon-ltd> Xiol: iirc, pressing scroll lock will pause the messages
[00:10] <pHro> is there an irc channel dedicated to ubuntu server issues?
[00:11] <hp> ubuntu converting hs basketball video to mov any suggestions
[00:11] <AuroraX> maco: build-essential or build-essentials?
[00:11] <Logan_> !server | pHro
[00:11] <pHro> Logan_, thx
[00:11] <mchearty> ohsix: Figured out how to do it without software, package is dov4l :3
[00:11] <Xiol> aeon-ltd: it's not that as such, i need to display a scripted message - can't script in /etc/issue, so it needs to go in rc.local, which gets cleared. can't find where that clear is coming from though
[00:11] <Logan_> pHro: you're welcome
[00:11] <mchearty> ohsix: just pinged u to let u know :)
[00:12] <rachel_hp> hi anyone know how to convert mpeg video to mov High School basketball game
[00:12] <maco> AuroraX: singular
[00:12] <Logan_> erkan^: do you need help with Chrome OS?
[00:13] <AuroraX> maco: what?
[00:13] <AuroraX> maco: ah ok
[00:13] <AuroraX> maco: singular of "not plural" lol, sorry, my bad english xD Thanks
[00:13] <rachel_hp> where is a good channel for video editing
[00:14] <AuroraX> maco: damn, i dont have wget installed LOL
[00:14] <mkanyicy> rachel_hp, editing a video is not the same as converting it
[00:14] <erkan^> yes Logan_
[00:14] <maco> AuroraX: is this ubuntu or something else?
[00:14] <AuroraX> maco: Debian for ARM
[00:15] <rachel_hp> i want to conver mkanyicy
[00:15] <rachel_hp> convert sorry mkayicy
[00:15] <Logan_> erkan^: /join #chromium-support
[00:15] <limitlesspill> where is a good resource to begin ubuntu development?
[00:15] <AuroraX> maco: i have it running on this: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/gallery.html
[00:16] <ddbt_nl> maco: why do i need to hit ctrl + w twice to switch the window?
[00:16] <maco> ddbt_nl: i usually just hit it once and then use an arrow key after...
[00:16] <mkanyicy> rachel_hp, ffmpeg
[00:16] <rachel_hp> Mkanyicy I have winff but quicktime isn't choice
[00:16] <maco> AuroraX: hmm not sure. maybe want to try a debian channel?
[00:16] <maco> AuroraX: i would think if you have apt-get you'd have some way for it to download things, such as wget..
[00:17] <mkanyicy> rachel_hp, ffmpeg commandline
[00:17] <AuroraX> maco: apt-get asks me for wget LOL
[00:17] <rachel_hp> mkanyicy on the support it shows quick time as an option
[00:17] <maco> AuroraX: ive never used the arm build of debian. i suggest #debian
[00:18] <rachel_hp> not sure i am smart enough mkanyicy for command line
[00:18] <ok_wait> well i know networkmanager blows but is there really no way to fix it if something goes wrong??
[00:18] <AuroraX> maco: yes, im gonna ask there, thanks, as soon as i get wget ill be able to install build-essential :)
[00:20] <DaPenguin> what kind of distro doesn't install wget? that's just weird...
[00:21] <AuroraX> DaPenguin: lol, Debian for ARM
[00:21] <ok_wait> does anybody know if there's a network configuration utility alternative to networkmanager that supports ppp?
[00:21] <maco> ok_wait: pppoeconf ?
[00:22] <ok_wait> and/or pppoe
[00:22] <maco> ok_wait: though i think there should be a network manager plugin too
[00:22] <ok_wait> i want network manager to go bye bye
[00:22] <ok_wait> i'm looking for an alternative
[00:25] <Mndrll> hey guys!
[00:27] <Mndrll> im trying to install a Virtual Machine on VirtualBOX in UBUNTU 10.10 64 bits, i tried with different OS and it says "this kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU Unable to boot"
[00:27] <Mndrll> i did install Ubuntu 10.10 64 bits
[00:27] <Logan_> !away > PhilMather
[00:27] <Mndrll> can anyone please help me
[00:27] <gatoparlante> Is there a way to share a folder via SAMBA in a NTFS partition?
[00:27] <Logan_> !please | Mndrll
[00:27] <Logan_> !samba | gatoparlante
[00:27] <KB1JWQ> Mndrll: uname -a says what?
[00:28] <rachel_hp> any suggestions for ffmpeg command tutorial
[00:28] <BlaDe^> Hey guys. I've just installed vsftpd but I can't access it from my laptop, any ideas what i've done wrong?
[00:28] <BlaDe^> the service is started
[00:28] <rypervenche> I've been reading up on dpkg-reconfigure locales, and everyone says that I should be able to choose my default language...however when I run it I am not able to. Any advice?
[00:28] <Logan_> rachel_hp: #ffmpeg should be able to help you out
[00:29] <Mndrll> KB1JWQ, Linux PhoenixFX 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:29] <Logan_> BlaDe^: try joining #vsftpd and asking your question there
[00:29] <gatoparlante> Thank you, Mr Ubuttu.
[00:29] <gatoparlante> Ubottu.
[00:29] <BlaDe^> no-one's home Logan_
[00:29] <Logan_> !thanks | gatoparlante
[00:29] <rachel_hp> Logan_thanks
[00:30] <Logan_> rachel_hp: you're welcome
[00:32] <fulka> Hi CcSsNET
[00:32] <fulka> and HarryD
[00:33] <Logan_> fulka: neither of those users is in this channel...
[00:33] <fulka> LOL, sorry, I saw them
[00:33] <benzaldehyde> ubottu: we're pleased to be making our GPS systems jealous in your pressence
[00:33] <Mndrll> KB1JWQ, Linux PhoenixFX 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:33] <fulka> Sorry, I have just connect because I need to install CmapTools on Ubuntu and I can't...
[00:35] <fulka> I have downloaded the bin archive; then I executed in terminal: sudo chmod +x archive_name.bin... it ask me for my password, I give it, and nothing else happens
[00:35] <infinitux> hi.
[00:36] <infinitux> is there a repository for the most up to date stable kernel available on kernel.org?
[00:37] <fulka> hello? can somebody help me?
[00:37] <Logan_> !please | fulka
[00:37] <vitalius> is there a way to restart USB service? it used to be in /etc/init.d/hotplug but where did it move in 10.04?
[00:37] <IdleOne> fulka: chmod +x made the bin executable now you need to execute it
[00:38] <DaPenguin> vitalius, maybe sudo service hotplug restart
[00:38] <fulka> ok... NO... I double click in it, and nothing happens again... I have checked to "excecute as a program"
[00:39] <Mndrll> have anyone used or uses VirtualBox on a 64 bit machine with ubuntu 10.10
[00:39] <Mndrll> ???
[00:39] <DaPenguin> fulka, try running in a term window and see if any errors get kicked back
[00:39] <fulka> I also wrote on terminal: ./archive_name.bin and still nothing
[00:39] <vitalius> are all usb devices (mouse,keyboard) in udev now?
[00:40] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll: I've used it on a 32 if that helps any.
[00:40] <Hodr> Hey guys, installed ISPConfig, everything everything is fast until I try to access the DB, it's so slow things often time out
[00:40] <fulka> It returned: "bash: ./archive_name.bin is a directory
[00:41] <Hodr> hmm, double word typo... sorry
[00:41] <esco> hey, what's that service called that ubuntu is doing like dropbox?
[00:41] <dewey423> fulka: then enter it cd ./archive_name.bin
[00:41] <habeouscorpus> ubuntu one
[00:41] <esco> thanks
[00:41] <habeouscorpus> no prob
[00:41] <fulka> ok
[00:42] <BlaDe^> Hey guys. I've just installed vsftpd but I can't access it from my laptop, any ideas what i've done wrong? Could it be ipfw?
[00:42] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus,  the thing is that i cant install any OS cause it appears "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU"
[00:42] <dewey423> BlaDe^: is it listening?
[00:42] <benzaldehyde> BlaDe^: have you ever tried Wedmin?
[00:42] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus, uname -a says "Linux PhoenixFX 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:42] <Mndrll> "
[00:42] <benzaldehyde> *webmin
[00:42] <meganerdca> BlaDe^: if you put a firewall on it then probably
[00:42] <itaylor57> !webmin
[00:43] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll: Is Virtualbox the 64 bit version?
[00:43] <benzaldehyde> itaylor57: they giveth and taketh away, why god why
[00:43] <Mndrll> on virtualbox website..
[00:43] <Hodr> any idea why mysql would be super slow on a fresh install?
[00:43] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll: so it is the 64 version?
[00:44] <Mndrll>  ther are 2 options for a Ubuntu Maverick version, the i386, and the AMD64
[00:44] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus, i install the AMD64
[00:44] <{C9}t00lsh3d> Is 64bit flash player glitchy as hell in ubuntu 10.04 or is it just me ? (:
[00:44] <dewey423> Hodr: ISAM?
[00:44] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll: Install the AMD54.
[00:44] <habeouscorpus> *64
[00:44] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus, yes i did install that one...
[00:45] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll: Hmm. That's odd.
[00:45] <fulka> it returned ~/archive_name.bin$  I do not know what to do
[00:46] <Mkop> I'm trying to install open-vm-tools on a 10.04 guest VM. http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/open-vm-tools seems to indicate that the package exists, but "apt-get install open-vm-tools" says "E: Couldn't find package open-vm-tools"
[00:46] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus, i even try to install ubuntu 10.10 same version i have on the virtualbox and it says the same thing
[00:47] <BlaDe^> dewey423 I belive so - the service is running and listen=YES
[00:47] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll: have you tried googling the error?
[00:47] <BlaDe^> benzaldehyde nope
[00:47] <BlaDe^> meganerdca i'm not sure
[00:48] <tbruff13> Help
[00:48] <tbruff13> Is anyone on
[00:48] <DaPenguin> !ask | tbruff13
[00:49] <fulka> with cd ./... returned: ~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$
[00:50] <tbruff13> DaPenguin, okay then here goes when i click on something in my place menu like downloads instead of opening into file manager it opens up in VLC music player
[00:50] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus, yes i did but i have already enabled the VT-X/AMD-V
[00:51] <DaPenguin> tbruff13, check file type associations in the settings panel. make sure a default file manager is set
[00:51] <rachel_hp> Logan_ pasteeater you guys are awesome its working
[00:51] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll i'm a little stumped.
[00:52] <fulka> What do I have to do now?
[00:52] <chotaz> hey guys
[00:52] <sparc> If I want to try installing a package from Maverick on Lucid, can I just add a Maverick deb line to my sources.list?
[00:52] <chotaz> how do I add softsub support to totem?
[00:52] <sparc> or will that make everything explode
[00:52] <chotaz> like having it automatically detect subtitles?
[00:52] <LjL> sparc: might make everything explode... if you really want to, install the .deb separately
[00:53] <tbruff13> DaPenguin, sorry for the wait how do i do this
[00:53] <LjL> sparc: there is always the option of requesting a backport, as well
[00:53] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus, thanks either way, ill keep on searching wtf!!...thanks!!
[00:53] <sparc> LjL: ok, thanks, i'll try downloading it from packages.ubuntu.com
[00:53] <sparc> LjL: yeah, I should really request a backport of puppet and puppetmaster
[00:53] <habeouscorpus> Mndrll: sorry! good luck.
[00:53] <Jasonn> I am not able to connect to a VPN on my computer, it just sais failed to connect to
[00:53] <DaPenguin> tbruff13, not sure exactly where it is in gnome. i run kde normally.
[00:54] <tbruff13> DaPenguin, okay then how do i fix this annoying issue that started for no rason
[00:54] <tbruff13> reason
[00:54] <digirak> any body knows what this at-spi-registryd process is?
[00:54] <Mndrll> habeouscorpus, thanks!
[00:55] <benzaldehyde> digirak: nope, did you try killing it
[00:55] <fulka> Dewey423?
[00:55] <digirak> benzaldehyde: na wanted to know if its a system process before i kill it
[00:55] <tbruff13> okay does anyone know how to fix places menu opening in VLC
[00:56] <eflynn> Having trouble hooking laptop up to external monitor.  It flashes a few times, then goes blank on the external monitor
[00:57] <mdshann> some of them have a function key you have to hit to get it to go to the external
[00:57] <tbruff13> If fixed it by right clicking and using open with
[00:58] <benzaldehyde> digis
[00:58] <GuySoft> hi all, might anyone know of a doc here how to set unity to be the default window manager?
[00:58] <benzaldehyde> sorry
[00:59] <mdshann> Does anyone here use 11.04 on a laptop with nvidia mcp79 audio?
[00:59] <Jasonn> !natty mdshann
[00:59] <Jasonn> !natty | mdshann
[01:00] <lampe2> is there a way to enable pivot on ubuntu?
[01:01] <_Neytiri_> can someone point me to a good tutorial to setting up a mail server on my machine?
[01:01] <zmbi> http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[01:05] <rypervenche> Is there any way to put all of the language locales settings back to default?
[01:05] <benzaldehyde> _Neytiri_: i've flirted with that idea on occassion, i think you have to have a static ip and nameservers but don't quote me. maybe someone here can enlightenme but i beleive it is not just a matter of steps, i think there is some other things you need before the networks will recognize you as a mail exchange server, probably a spam related discrepency or rather spam preventive measure i should say
[01:07] <fulka> again: trying to execute a binary file: I cheched "execute as a program", typed chmod +x... , then ./...bin... then cd ./...bin it returned ~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$  now what?
[01:08] <loctrice> hello room
[01:09] <loctrice> is this the correct place for technical issues? I haven't been on in a while
[01:09] <infinitux> if I have a symbolic link to a directory within a directory and I scp -r a directory containing it, will it double copy the file the symlink is pointing at or will it just copy it once?
[01:09] <benzaldehyde> loctrice: i should hope so
[01:09] <infinitux> could I get trapped in an infinite transfer loop?
[01:10] <loctrice> I'm having a problem with my thin clients, but it's not an ltsp issue. I have squid set up as a proxy for my ltsp and I'm trying to play hulu.
[01:10] <loctrice> Hulu starts, works great, but won't load anything after the advertisements
[01:10] <Ampelbein> infinitux: I think you can't do that with scp.
[01:11] <richcollins> Why would output appear in my terminal, but not in the file that I redirect output to?
[01:12] <zmbi> fulka, use ./binname
[01:12] <rcmaehl> ZOMG! Google Chrome OS is getting rid of the shift key!
[01:12] <GuySoft> hey all, i upgraded now an ubuntu-netbook-remix to 10.10. and I have NO desktop configuration, no icon, nothing, (just an empty taskbar) is there a way to revert it to default?
[01:12] <richcollins> When I run a command in the terminal, I see it print line after line of output
[01:12] <wingdspur> anybody using laptop with nvidia optimus without issues?
[01:12] <fulka> I did it, and it returned me: archive_nave is a directory
[01:12] <richcollins> when I redirect to a file, I see the first few lines and then the last line
[01:12] <richcollins> the lines in between are misisng
[01:13] <fulka> zmbi, I did it, and it returned me: archive_nave is a director
[01:13] <fulka> archive_name is a directory (sorry)
[01:13] <habeouscorpus> infinitux: try it.
[01:13] <zmbi> then cd to it
[01:14] <infinitux> already did what i didn't want. made multiple copies
[01:15] <teage> how do the dual monitors work?, does it just increase the size of current desktop or does it display a entire different desktop?
[01:15] <fulka> zmbi, I wrote: cd ./ binname and it returned: ~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$  Now I don't know...
[01:15] <loctrice> infinitux: can't you just scp the files inside the directory?
[01:16] <zmbi> you dont use ./ when you cd
[01:16] <teage> oh, and do the monitors have to be the same brand name and/or the same size
[01:17] <zmbi> what is the output of ls
[01:17] <leapy0yo> what does ubuntu use if it does not use X org or Freex86?
[01:17] <fulka> ah... let me try then
[01:18] <regeya> it currently uses xorg leapy0yo
[01:18] <BlaDe^> How can I create a user with minimalistic priviliges for vsftpd?
[01:18] <fulka> zmbi, it returned: bash: cd: LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[01:18] <fulka> fulka@fulka-laptop:~/LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin$ (it says that directory does not exist)
[01:18] <Rebe|arms> hey all
[01:19] <zmbi> ?
[01:19] <benzaldehyde> BlaDe^: i would think creating a user on the system in the shell would be your solution
[01:19] <_Neytiri_> benzaldehyde, i do have static ip's and nameservers
[01:19] <zmbi> ok stop and again
[01:19] <_Neytiri_> i just dont know how to do it
[01:19] <fulka> mmm... now I don't know what I did... ok.
[01:19] <zmbi> in wich path is the file you want to execute?
[01:20] <fulka> I let it in the desktop
[01:20] <Surenio> hello!
[01:20] <zmbi> then:
[01:20] <zmbi> cd ~/Desktop
[01:20] <Surenio> Hi!! how aare you?
[01:21] <Jasonn> I am trying to set up a PPTP server, but clients cannot connect to it :(
[01:22] <fulka> ok... then?
[01:22] <zmbi> ls
[01:22] <hello> hello
[01:22] <loctrice> hello hello
[01:22] <hello> hello to you good sir
[01:22] <fulka> sorry, what is "ls"?
[01:23] <hello> love sand
[01:23] <loctrice> om nom nom nom
[01:23] <zmbi> then you see what files are in the folder you in
[01:23] <benzaldehyde> loctrice: nom nom nom
[01:23] <zmbi> to know more about ls, type man ls
[01:24] <benzaldehyde> fulka: list
[01:24] <fulka> it appeared: fulka@fulka-laptop:~/Escritorio$
[01:24] <fulka> lol... sorry, I am learning
[01:24] <zmbi> its ok
[01:24] <rodd> hi where can i get help for gparted
[01:24] <BlaDe^> can anyone help me with creating vsftpd users?
[01:24] <loctrice> I'm trying to get hulu to work through squid. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:24] <zmbi> do you see the $ at the end??
[01:24] <fulka> yes
[01:25] <benzaldehyde> loctrice: i don't think hulu hires sea creatures, sorry
[01:25] <dewey423> if I type $nano fileone filetwo ; how do I switch between files?
[01:26] <loctrice> benzaldehyde: I should have known *facepalm* . What bout getting it to work through a local proxy?
[01:27] <zmbi> the output of ls ~/Desktop = fulka@fulka-laptop:~/Escritorio$   ???
[01:27] <BlaDe^> can anyone help me with creating vsftpd users, please?
[01:27] <fulka> yep
[01:27] <bin_bash> Hello all. I have been trying to use rsync, but I get an error that the directory is not found. the syntax I'm using is rsync -va --progress /home/user/media/Ubuntu/home
[01:28] <bubina> ciao!
[01:28] <BlaDe^> fulka was that to me?
[01:28] <Rebe|arms> anyone feel like helping a noob with a problem?
[01:28] <fulka> blade, no... to zmbi
[01:28] <zmbi> then your desktop is empty?
[01:28] <fulka> zmbi, it can be... I have some folders and archives there
[01:28] <loctrice> Rebe: what kind of problem?
[01:28] <fulka> can't be... sorry
[01:29] <zmbi> Desktop == Escritorio ??
[01:29] <loctrice> fulka: type pwd
[01:29] <fulka> zmbi... exactly
[01:29] <fulka> loctrice... with "sudo"?
[01:29] <zmbi> why
[01:29] <Rebe|arms> loctrice:  having trouble with video on new Ubuntu install
[01:30] <fulka> let me do it again
[01:30] <quizno50> @Rebe|arms what kind of trouble, and on what kind of hardware?
[01:30] <dewey423> BlaDe^: are you using adduser ?
[01:30] <zmbi> type ls ~/ Escritorio
[01:30] <fulka> LOL... sorry... now I have the list
[01:30] <loctrice> Rebe: I haven't had issues with video since I was on debian. then quizno's questions
[01:30] <fulka> and yes, there it is the bin-archive
[01:30] <zmbi> :)
[01:30] <zmbi> ok
[01:32] <zmbi> if you type ls -hl you see the rights from all files in it and the size of it
[01:32] <bubina> !list
[01:32] <zmonk> hi
[01:32] <zmbi> put down the line from your binfile here please
[01:32] <Batshua> Hey guys, I have a question
[01:32] <Rebe|arms> hmmmmm... been working on this for 2 days now
[01:32] <Batshua> so my boyfriend's laptop which I am borrowing is an acer with one of those buttons that disables the trackpad
[01:33] <BlaDe^> can anyone help me with creating vsftpd users, please?
[01:33] <fulka> zmbi, -rwxrwxrwx  1 fulka fulka 110M 2011-03-29 14:10 LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin
[01:33] <diegoviola> hi
[01:33] <Batshua> and I know it's a known bug since 9.04, but I'm running 10.04
[01:33] <diegoviola> how do i enable laptop mode in ubuntu?
[01:33] <zmbi> ok
[01:33] <loctrice> Rebe: did you respond with anything? I think I might be missing some lines or something
[01:33] <diegoviola> 10.10 here
[01:33] <zmbi> then type:
[01:33] <Rebe|arms> oh, I am sorry... I must have missed something myself
[01:33] <zmbi> ./LinuxCmapTools_v5.04.01_10-28-10.bin
[01:34] <zmonk> does anyone know the grep command for grepping any two chars enclosed by parentheses?
[01:34] <Batshua> diegoviola: is 10.10 lts?
[01:34] <loctrice> Rebe: what type of video problems are you having, first off
[01:34] <diegoviola> Batshua: no idea
[01:34] <fulka> ok
[01:34] <Batshua> diegoviola: 'cause I thought it wasn't, and he never runs anything that isn't LTS
[01:35] <zmbi> then it should execute the file
[01:35] <Batshua> so uhm, hold on.
[01:35] <fulka> zmbi, you are a genius... thanks a lot, it is executing it
[01:35] <Batshua> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/374459
[01:35] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: Ubuntu boots up to terminal only unless I use recovery mode.
[01:35] <Batshua> That's what I found about it, and it seems to imply the drivers...
[01:35] <zmbi> im not a genius, but thanks for thinking that :)
[01:35] <Batshua> like, are fixed?
[01:35] <loctrice> Rebe: so you don't get a desktop?
[01:35] <Batshua> Except either they're nto or I don't have the right drivers installed.
[01:36] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: correct
[01:36] <diegoviola> HOW TO ENABLE LAPTOP MODE?
[01:36] <fulka> thanks again... and goodbye
[01:36] <zmbi> bye
[01:36] <loctrice> Rebe: can you switch to another tty and get a terminal?
[01:37] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: tried that but still no gui.... and after a minute or so the screen goes full black and locks up
[01:37] <loctrice> Rebe: I'm just wondering if you get a tty, not really concerned about the gui. This is an install right, not a live cd?
[01:38] <Batshua> So, uh, how do I figure out which one it is, so I can fix it?
[01:38] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: correct.... I guess that I don't really understand what a tty is....sorry
[01:39] <loctrice> Rebe: if you hit ctrl + alt + F2 you should get a terminal. You'll have to work from there if you don't have a gui
[01:39] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: ok
[01:40] <loctrice> Rebe: do you know what video hardware you have?
[01:40] <wn1zid> tthe text to the right wont complete, is there a way i can fix this ??, thanks :     http://imagebin.org/145997
[01:41] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: I know that it is Intel HD...... I just bought this laptop..... don't really know it all thatwell
[01:41] <loctrice> Rebe: are you using the desktop edition or the netbook remix for the laptop?
[01:42] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: desktop
[01:42] <loctrice> Reb: type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:42] <loctrice> see if your device section has a driver
[01:42] <Lesterwood> >ubuntu takes 25 seconds to boot
[01:42] <Lesterwood> what the fuck?
[01:43] <IdleOne> !language | Lesterwood
[01:43] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: ok.... one sec
[01:43] <onecrazycat> Word.
[01:45] <Rebe|arms> locttrice: ummm.... no such file or directory
[01:45] <loctrice> Reb: the X in X11 is capitol... use tab completion if you can
[01:45] <DARKGuy> hey, anybody knows how do I exclude a module in an USB install stick made with unetbootin and 10.10, my netbook can't boot the ubuntu install because it hangs with "phy0 -> rt2800pci_mcu_status: Error - MCU request failed, no response from hardware" netbook is a Siragon ML-1040 and links on google with the error description say to blacklist some modules, but how do I do that on an usb install stick ?
[01:45] <ericfizer> has anyone had experience with power issues with compaq laptops?
[01:45] <rypervenche> Is there any way to put all of the language locales settings back to default?
[01:47] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: hmmm, still a no-go..... no such file
[01:48] <indamoth> how do i remove ubuntu?
[01:48] <loctrice> Rebe: Let me google for a minute. That file should be there ls /etc/ |grep X
[01:49] <stercor> What is the Super+N command, and how do I do it?
[01:49] <rypervenche> How can I change my locale settings back to default? I'm having problems with different utf8 files. Can I somehow delete all of the files and settings and start from scratch?
[01:50] <zmbi> idamoth: rm -r /
[01:50] <rww> doesn't work ^
[01:50] <indamoth> how do i remove ubuntu?
[01:50] <pheuter> just installed 11.04 beta on vmware, toolbar is not visible, where did it go? and why isn't it unity? is it not compatible with vmware?
[01:50] <Rebe|arms> loctrice:
[01:50] <rww> pheuter: #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support
[01:50] <pheuter> rww: thnx
[01:50] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: am i supposed to type tha ls command?
[01:50] <stercor> indamoth: What replaces it?
[01:51] <indamoth> stercor: windows 7
[01:51] <loctrice> Reb: yes. it's case sensative.   I was just wanting you to grep for a capitol X
[01:51] <loctrice> Reb: ls /etc/ |grep X
[01:51] <stercor> indamoth: Do you have an install disk?
[01:52] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: ok.... all it came up with is X11
[01:52] <indamoth> stercor: no i have to download it
[01:52] <bonny> are there any screen video takers similar to fraps for linux
[01:52] <loctrice> Reb: cd /etc/X11
[01:52] <rypervenche> bonny: glc
[01:52] <loctrice> Reb: the do another ls
[01:52] <bonny> ok
[01:52] <stercor> indamoth: Can you boot from a flash drive (RAM stick)?
[01:52] <bonny> bonny@bonny-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install glc
[01:52] <bonny> Reading package lists... Done
[01:52] <bonny> Building dependency tree
[01:52] <bonny> Reading state information... Done
[01:52] <bonny> E: Couldn't find package glc
[01:52] <FloodBot2> bonny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <bonny> not workin
[01:52] <rypervenche> bonny: The guy has stopped working on it, but it still works. Audio can be a bit wonky if you want multiple inputs, but if you just want the basics, it works great.
[01:53] <stercor> indamoth: You may have to go in and change some BIOS settings.
[01:53] <stercor> indamoth: to get it to boot from the flash drive.
[01:54] <Kalout> Anyone there? Kinda desprate for help here.
[01:54] <loctrice> I had this exact same problem for two months with my very first Debian install.
[01:55] <loctrice> Debian was a great learning distro for me :)
[01:55] <rypervenche> bonny: https://github.com/nullkey/glc/wiki/Install
[01:55] <stercor> indamoth: Does your computer have a CD/DVD-ROM drive?
[01:55] <Kalout> anyone have ubuntu dual booted?
[01:56] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: hmmm..... it still keeps coming up with only X11
[01:56] <loctrice> Reb: did you cd? cd /etc/X11/
[01:56] <loctrice> Reb: then type ls
[01:56] <stercor> Kalout: I put dual-boot on another computer.  wubi is the key.
[01:56] <Hamled> I'm looking for a commandline tool similar to process monitor for Windows. Specifically, I want to be able to see a historical list of file access attempts by a particular process (lsof seems to only provide what files are open at the moment lsof is run)
[01:57] <Hamled> anyone know of a tool that can do that?
[01:57] <Rebe|arms> app-defaults             X                   Xreset      Xsession.options
[01:57] <Rebe|arms> cursors                  xinit               Xreset.d    Xwrapper.config
[01:57] <Rebe|arms> default-display-manager  xkb                 Xresources
[01:57] <Rebe|arms> fonts                    xorg.conf.failsafe  Xsession
[01:57] <Rebe|arms> rgb.txt                  xorg.conf.save      Xsession.d
[01:57] <FloodBot2> Rebe|arms: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <Kalout> stercor: wubi doesnt work. I cant get any form of linux onto my computer
[01:57] <c0dege3k> I just recently upgraded to the 64 bit version of maverick, and now when i try to do things with my folders, it says permission denied. how do i fix this?
[01:57] <Rebe|arms> oh... sorry
[01:57] <c0dege3k> oh, and this is in terminal
[01:57] <rypervenche> How can I change my locale settings back to default? I'm having problems with different utf8 files. Can I somehow delete all of the files and settings and start from scratch?
[01:58] <stercor> Kalout: Uh, on.
[01:58] <stercor> Kalout: Uh, oh.  I'm out of my league.
[01:58] <loctrice> Reb: did you have an xorg.conf in there? I didn't see
[01:58] <Kalout> stercor: HP Envy 14. And oh
[01:58] <bonny> Thnx
[01:59] <[deXter]> Hey all, any recommendations for a really good audio cd ripper?
[01:59] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: no..... dont see one
[02:00] <loctrice> Reb: what are your xorg. files?
[02:00] <Rebe|arms> xorg.conf.failsafe
[02:00] <Rebe|arms> xorg.conf.save
[02:00] <Rebe|arms> and thats it
[02:01] <mark49_> @seek "old earth"
[02:02] <loctrice> Reb: cat xorg.conf.failsafe   ... it should be a reverted version in case something went awry. I'm looking for a section device . If it's the right file we can use it
[02:02] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I'm scarred to install my video drivers directy from ati site, last time I did that on linux 2d accels stopped working too, but ubuntu installed my 3D accel but playonlinux says it doesn't detect 3D accel ?
[02:02] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: ok... one sec
[02:02] <kastor_> ok
[02:03] <Rebe|arms> loctrice... ok done
[02:03] <loctrice> Reb: did it have the section "Device" in it?
[02:04] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: yes
[02:04] <wn1zid> does anyone have any solutions for why the text to the right is like it is ??  http://imagebin.org/145997
[02:04] <loctrice> Reb: what device was listed?
[02:04] <loctrice> Reb: the driver i mean
[02:04] <kastor_> kastor exit
[02:04] <indamoth> SHUT UP BITCH!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!
[02:04] <th0r> wn1zid: I think that is a flaw in the page design...the text is too large for the cell
[02:04] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: "vesa"
[02:05] <IdleOne> indamoth: ok
[02:05] <carlossalazar> goodnight greetings come from the Spanish channel but do not answer, my problem is I change the language from Spanish to English without touching anything or I will update waiting for a response thanks
[02:05] <loctrice> Reb: ok, just check one more time to make sure that there is no xorg.conf so we don't hose anything up
[02:05] <IdleOne> ubottu: tell indamoth about guidelines
[02:05] <wn1zid> th0r-  most pages load normally, but ya, some are just like that, a while ago i seen a fix for it and it worked, but its been a while and forgot where i found it.
[02:05] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: k... one sec
[02:06] <bastidrazor> loctrice: you do know you could type 'reb' then hit tab to auto-complete the name.
[02:06] <Rebe|arms> loctrice: no, there is none
[02:06] <loctrice> I didnt know that, and it didn't work
[02:07] <Rebe|arms> lol bastidrazor ... thanks
[02:07] <loctrice> Reb: sudo cp xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf
[02:07] <Rebe|arms> loctrice, ok, one sec
[02:07] <bastidrazor> loctrice: the client you're using doesn't support tab completion.. very odd
[02:07] <bonny> i downloaded it but wat category will it be in
[02:08] <indamoth> how do i remove ubuntu?
[02:08] <bastidrazor> indamoth: how did you install it?
[02:08] <loctrice> indamoth: the wubi should have a remove option. if not, you can remove it from add/remove programs
[02:08] <carlossalazar> goodnight greetings come from the Spanish channel but do not answer, my problem is I change the language from Spanish to English without touching anything or I will update waiting for a response thanks
[02:09] <Rebe|arms> loctrice, ok... done
[02:09] <loctrice> Reb: it's already set to use the safe driver, so you should be able to just reboot. I'm not sure how you lost the original
[02:09] <loctrice> Reb: you can just type sudo reboot
[02:10] <Rebe|arms> loctrice, ok.... gonna try this and will letyou know how it went
[02:10] <Rebe|arms> loctrice, brb
[02:12] <elocina> n #wikihow
[02:13] <loctrice> well how'd it go?
[02:13] <indamoth> SHUT UP BITCH!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!
[02:14] <loctrice> wow
[02:14] <edbian> hahahaa
[02:14] <Rebe|arms> loctrice, ok..... it still stopped at the terminal but i was able to type startx and the gui started
[02:14] <loctrice> excellent
[02:16] <Rebe|arms> thanks for the help
[02:16] <rpaddock> How do you figure out what updates you recently installed? One of the ones that I installed today seems to have broken eclipse
[02:17] <loctrice> yw
[02:18] <loctrice> I'm having problems getting hulu to work on my thin clients through squid. Anyone have any experience with squid?
[02:18] <Kopete> hola buenas tardes
[02:19] <david_> @rpaddock - are you using synaptic? i think there's a part which shows you your recently installed packages
[02:20] <rpaddock> david_: Ah, thanks. Must not have seen the "history" menu item
[02:20] <tjiggi_fo> rpaddock, look in your log file viewer at the dpkg.log
[02:23] <loctrice> I'm surprised that after explaining my problem to hulu support they tell me how to ping one of the servers from a windows command prompt. aparently they don't know if squid is affecting it
[02:24] <Kopete> hola necesito ayuda!!
[02:24] <loctrice> I just want hulu to work on my thin clients >,< . It has to be squid
[02:24] <Loshki> !es | Kopete
[02:24] <rww> !es | Kopete
[02:25] <Kopete> thanks ubottu
[02:25] <CyFus> is anyone here good with nvidia CUDA?
[02:25] <murphy> --nickname "san"
[02:27] <loctrice> I think I will search for a squid channel. I'm sure there is one.
[02:30] <lighta> hey guys is there an autocomment function in gedit ?
[02:30] <fanzhen> have anyone got some news about gnome 3 ?
[02:31] <zmbi> ligtha: what do you mean?
[02:34] <k_sze> stupid power cord messed up my upgrade process.
[02:35] <k_sze> Now I need to fetch a CD/DVD reader to reinstall everything.
[02:35] <k_sze> I might as well buy some new hardware and build a new gig.
[02:35] <Riptide> oi oi, anyone here good with sound problems?
[02:36] <wheaties_> yo
[02:36] <wheaties_> i got a good question
[02:36] <wheaties_> pretty big prob
[02:36] <wheaties_> you think you can help?
[02:36] <th0r> wheaties_: no
[02:37] <wheaties_> :(
[02:37] <rww> not if you don't state it.
[02:37] <wheaties_> well
[02:37] <wheaties_> i need video card drivers
[02:37] <rww> preferably in a manner that doesn't involve abusing your return key :\
[02:37] <trism> lighta: yes, it is in the gedit-plugins package
[02:37] <Riptide> long story short....i have no sound
[02:37] <wheaties_> that are only avalible via windows xp installer
[02:38] <isleshocky77> Anyone got an idea why it's not automatically running ecrypt-mount-private upon login through ssh?
[02:39] <Riptide> Pass, i'm fairly new on the Ubuntu scene
[02:40] <sacarlson> isleshocky77: the user you loged into has an encrypted /home/user account?
[02:40] <isleshocky77> sacarlson: Yes.
[02:40] <isleshocky77> sacarlson: And this stopped working out of the blue. I believe it was working.
[02:41] <CyFus> im stuck on installing cuda, im getting errors from ld
[02:41] <isleshocky77> sacarlson: The auto-mount file is in .ecryptfs
[02:41] <wheaties_> trism: you sure that will work for a mother-board card (not removable)?
[02:41] <CyFus> but I already linked to the headers, did something break between 10.04 and 10.10?
[02:42] <detrix42> Hi, I have ubuntu server 10.10, with a gnome also installed. It is currently in runlevel 2, and I need it to be in runlevel 3 or 5. How do I switch to a different runlevel?
[02:43] <sacarlson> isleshocky77: maybe try sudo mount -a   to mount all that is in /etc/fstab  I'm not sure where the encrypt tab is kept
[02:43] <th0r> detrix42: if they haven't changed it....in a terminal type 'sudo init 5'
[02:43] <itaylor57> !runlevel
[02:43] <std_err> th0r , you beat me to it. I'm so slow at typing ppl's names >,<
[02:44] <sacarlson> isleshocky77:  I guess you should lood at /etc/crypttab
[02:44] <detrix42> th0r: thanks
[02:44] <isleshocky77> sacarlson: That doesn't seem to be it.
[02:45] <isleshocky77> sacarlson: If I run ecrypt-mount-private once I login it works fine. but I'm not sure why it's not automatically mounting it any more like it should.
[02:45] <sacarlson> isleshocky77: ok but at least you found a workaround
[02:46] <isleshocky77> sacarlson: Well yeah, of course that works. But it's supposed to do it automatically as long as .ecryptfs/auto-mount exists.
[02:46] <isleshocky77> But it's not doing it.
[02:47] <bsmith093> i tried to install traceroute and the process froze, so i quit and now i cant get rid of it, E: traceroute: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[02:47] <sacarlson> isleshocky77: I guess you could add that in a line of your .bashrc file to make it mount at entry of the shell
[02:47] <bsmith093> reinstall freezes too
[02:48] <detrix42> How do I check what runlevel I am currently at?
[02:48] <std_err> bsmith: purge?
[02:48] <bsmith093> cant stuck halfway between in and out
[02:48] <std_err> detrix: runlevel
[02:48] <timewriter> hi
[02:48] <detrix42> std_err: thanks
[02:50] <timewriter> anyone had panic attacks ?
[02:50] <milamber> bsmith093: did you try apt-get clean?
[02:50] <bsmith093> yes no effect
[02:50] <sacarlson> isleshocky77: oh and did you ever change your password?  if the account password has changed then it won't auto mount since the password on the account won't match
[02:50] <CyFus> what am I doing wrong I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/cuda.conf and sudo ldconfig
[02:50] <CyFus> but I keep getting usr/lib/ld errors
[02:51] <std_err> bsmith: install from source.
[02:51] <isleshocky77> sacarlson: No. I believe I've had the same password. I read that somewhere though so I'm looking how I change the passwords now.
[02:51] <std_err> bsmith: that's probably not a good way to do it,but it should use the source version instead of yours
[02:51] <bsmith093> std_err: how do i do that
[02:51] <std_err> bsmith: what's the program again?
[02:52] <bsmith093> traceroute
[02:52] <bsmith093> when i first tried to install it it hung on unpacking traceroute
[02:52] <lighta> trism, I didn't found it may you specify please ?
[02:53] <std_err> bsmith: have you installed programs from source before?
[02:53] <rypervenche> woot! I figured our my locale problem!! I had chosen the wrong encoding at my login screen and it was one that did not exist in my locale file :P
[02:54] <trism> lighta: sudo apt-get install gedit-plugins; then in gedit Edit/Preferences/Plugins, enable code comment, then there will be new options in the edit menu
[02:55] <std_err> bsmith: It's a hack anyway, probably not the best way to do it. If you haven't installed a program from source before I'd hate to send you in that direction
[02:55] <bsmith093> std_err: no not really
[02:56] <std_err> bsmith: probably best to wait for someone who knows better to answer. I'm sure someone will. I'll google a bit while you wait
[02:57] <momok> hi all
[02:57] <momok> have anyone here had used nagios in ubuntu :)
[02:58] <c0dege3k> I recently reinstalled Ubuntu to upgrade to x64. Now trying to curl into a folder in terminal and it says Permission denied. What's wrong with it?
[02:59] <ptn107> c0dege3k, make sure you own the folder
[02:59] <std_err> bsmith: It's a long shot, but did you try seeing if it was installed in the software center gui?
[02:59] <momok> if i want to monitor from ubuntu for example 192.168.0.7/home/system.jsp what plugin i should use?
[02:59] <c0dege3k> ptn107: i do. its the exact same thing i used in x86 and it worked then
[02:59] <momok> i mean by using nagios :(
[03:00] <std_err> the only other thing I can think of is apt-get --purge remove. I"m still googling , but coming up empty
[03:01] <TrickyJ> hey hi friends..
[03:02] <deshymers> I'm having an issue with my nvidia drivers and xorg, my desktop is larger then my screen, and no matter what resolution i change it to its still bigger
[03:02] <momok> c0dege3k: would it involved your iptables?
[03:02] <TrickyJ> deshymers: Uninstall the drivers and try to re-install ?
[03:03] <deshymers> I've tried to manually change my xorg.conf, I've updated the driver to the beta and even went to a previous version
[03:03] <deshymers> TrickyJ: yes
[03:03] <TrickyJ> ok
[03:03] <c0dege3k> momk: I dont think so. the command im running is: curl http://android.git.kernel.org/repo > ~/bin/repo
[03:04] <deshymers> TrickyJ: any other ideas?
[03:04] <momok> c0dege3k: maybe you can run strace to check it :P
[03:05] <c0dege3k> well, its not JUST the curl.... any command i run dealing with my folders gives me the same error
[03:06] <TrickyJ> deshymers: try out this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-adjust-screen-resolution-on-ubuntu.html
[03:06] <c0dege3k> well, not all of them, little messup ther
[03:07] <tjiggi_fo> bsmith093, try apt-get autoremove : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clean-up-your-packages.html If that fails try installing bleachbit from synaptic. You'll find it in the Applications menu after install. Use it to clean up loos fragments.
[03:07] <deshymers> TrickyJ: cool hanks
[03:08] <tjiggi_fo> bsmith093, you do know that traceroot is in NetworkTools in Admin, don't you?
[03:08] <momok> c0dege3k: i think if you try to run strace together for example 'strace curl abc.com > myError.txt' maybe you can try to check it
[03:08] <bsmith093> oi vey thanks i do now
[03:09] <std_err> bsmith: I can't really find anything
[03:10] <wizard1> could someone help me with adding a custom module to always load at boot time?
[03:10] <wizard1> i know the module works, i just have to manually insert it each time
[03:10] <std_err> wizard: you can add it as modprobe in the startup scripts if you don't want to mess with grub configs
[03:10] <wheaties_> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:11] <sacarlson> c0dege3k: a permision problem in your /home/user space?  look at ls -l to see who owns the directory you try to write to and what permisions it is set to
[03:11] <momok> wizard1: did you try to add in .bash_profile?
[03:11] <momok> i mean have you tried :P
[03:11] <std_err> doesn't the bash profile get read up every time you open a terminal?
[03:12] <momok> i think every time you're login not terminal?
[03:12] <wizard1> std_err: how does modprobe work on ubuntu, it doesnt seem to have modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
[03:12] <c0dege3k> sacarlson: ah, root owns the folder im trying to work wiht
[03:12] <c0dege3k> how would i change that?
[03:12] <std_err> wizard: I would just make a shell to run the command, and add it to the defaults
[03:12] <sacarlson> c0dege3k: man chown
[03:13] <wizard1> mmm problem with that is i need to elevate privelleges
[03:13] <std_err> wizard: the startup script would run as root.. are you the admin?
[03:13] <momok> oh i think it would be .profile :P
[03:13] <Lesterwood> guys what is your opinion of windows
[03:13] <Zealous> Death to Windows :P
[03:13] <wizard1> i am admin but i dont ever log in as admin
[03:13] <tjiggi_fo> lesterwood, it doesn't matter!!!
[03:13] <momok> triple boot with my windows
[03:14] <std_err> windows are cool, they hold hte air conditioners and let you know if it's time to get up
[03:14] <Lesterwood> when will the year of the linux desktop happen
[03:14] <tjiggi_fo> !ot  Lesterwood
[03:14] <Lesterwood> !ot tjgillies
[03:15] <tjiggi_fo> !ot | Lesterwood
[03:15] <Lesterwood> :|
[03:15] <std_err> wizard: well, if you add the shell script to the startup scripts it will run as root. you don't need to elevate
[03:15] <bsmith093> what does this mean and how do i fix it bc the package is stuck halfway?
[03:15] <bsmith093>    
[03:15] <bsmith093> (Reading database ...
[03:15] <bsmith093> dpkg: warning: files list file for package `traceroute' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[03:15] <FloodBot1> bsmith093: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:15] <std_err> write a bash script that does the modprobe, and put it in init.d
[03:15] <momok> std_err: im agree with u :D
[03:16] <sacarlson> bsmith093: try change your repository mirror site in synaptic to something like japan or other
[03:16] <wizard1> alright will do that
[03:16] <std_err> wizard: then run update-rc.d your.sh defaults
[03:16] <wizard1> thanks guys
[03:16] <std_err> wizard: then forget about it :)
[03:16] <c0dege3k> sacarlson: that worked! thanks
[03:16] <sacarlson> c0dege3k: cool
[03:16] <ignacio> *yaaaaawn*
[03:17] <std_err> momok: you mean about windows?
[03:17] <ignacio> bye everyone
[03:17] <momok> std_err: i mean the startup scripts :D
[03:18] <momok> now i've got my own problem.. nagios in ubuntu...
[03:18] <std_err> I'm not even sure what nagios is
[03:18] <momok> i want to monitor this url: 192.168.0.7:8080/home/system.jsp
[03:18] <alex86> hey guys. Can anyone advice some books to read for linux novice?! I want to be confident with linux or maybe can you give some suggestions on what to concentrate while learning linux environment
[03:18] <Zealous> i am looking for some nice themes for ubuntu 10.10? Any suggestions?
[03:18] <momok> oh please help me std_err :P
[03:19] <edbian> alex86: Are you comfortable with the command line?
[03:19] <sacarlson> momok: monitor?  can you open it with a browser?
[03:19] <DrMorphias> ok i need help installing ubuntu.  i cant boot into it?!?
[03:19] <momok> sacarlson: aha yes
[03:19] <edbian> DrMorphias: You can boot a live CD.  Try that
[03:19] <sacarlson> momok: what does monitor mean?  that the file continues to exist?  maybe a script with wget
[03:19] <momok> i want to use nagios script. but i don't know the command and which one i should use...
[03:19] <alex86> edbian: with terminal, no at all
[03:19] <steve0hh> DrMorphias: maybe u have to hit F1 and select boot from CD..
[03:20] <noob> hey
[03:20] <std_err> momok: did you check the nagios quickstart guide?
[03:20] <gsp2009> Zealous: google bisigi themes
[03:20] <edbian> alex86: Start there!  :)  http://linuxcommand.org/
[03:20] <DrMorphias> edbian, i can boot a live cd , and install it, but after installing grub window never shows up.
[03:20] <edbian> DrMorphias: What happens when you boot?
[03:20] <alex86> edbian: thanks
[03:20] <DaGeek247> DrMorphias, is it 10.10?
[03:20] <edbian> alex86: Come here with specific questions :)
[03:20] <momok> sacarlson: i mean its checking whether the url still exist and can be access or not... i've checked it but my url is quite different
[03:20] <DrMorphias> edbian, my computer just idles then reboots continously, and yes its 10.10.
[03:20] <Zealous> cheers gsp
[03:21] <momok> the port too
[03:21] <Meshezabeel> I can access my windows partion from the Places menu, and it displays a mounted icon on the desktop, but I can't find out where it is mounted. Nothing is in /mnt and /media only shows floppy and cdrom
[03:21] <DrMorphias> DaGeek247, its 10.10 .
[03:21] <edbian> DrMorphias: press shift a whole bunch after bios but before the reset thing.  See if you can get the grub menu to show up
[03:21] <gsp2009> Zealous: np.
[03:21] <Meshezabeel> any ideas where it could be mounted?
[03:21] <DaGeek247> 10.10 did the same for me. i had to go back to 10.04.
[03:21] <noob> hello
[03:21] <noob> hi
[03:21] <sacarlson> momok: ok then setup a cron job with at some periodic period of your choice to wget the file and verify it's contents maybe with md5sum to verify it has the same values in it
[03:22] <Meshezabeel> DaGeek247: are you talking to me?
[03:22] <edbian> Meshezabeel: look using df -h
[03:22] <edbian> Meshezabeel: he is not. He's talking to DrMOrphia
[03:22] <DaGeek247> DrMorphias, actually.
[03:22] <edbian> s
[03:22] <DrMorphias> edbian, i think it has something to do with the rocketraid inside my computer.  it isnt using any raid but i think it might be confusing grub :/
[03:22] <std_err> momok: the quickstart guide?
[03:22] <jfarrell> greetings guys, i am somewhat new to linux
[03:22] <gsp2009> jfarrell: welcome
[03:22] <mister2> so, dumb question, but where's the best place to dump compiled programs?
[03:22] <guampa> anyone knows where to get the gallium radeon driver? tried xorg-edgers ppa but i still have classic mesa, r600
[03:22] <mister2> isn't it mostly in /etc?
[03:22] <jfarrell> how do I setup my installation so that I dont need to specify the IP when I SSH to the server
[03:22] <edbian> DrMorphias: It might be.  BUt it sounds to me that grub is loading, loading Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is crashing
[03:22] <tjiggi_fo> noob, hi, what's your question?
[03:23] <edbian> mister2: either in /home/you/bin or /usr/local/bin (the latter so other users can run the program)
[03:23] <milamber> mister2: http://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard
[03:23] <DaGeek247> mister2 wherever you want.
[03:23] <mister2> @milamber thanks
[03:23] <edbian> mister2: /etc is configuration files
[03:23] <Meshezabeel> edbian: all that shows up there is /dev/sda1 (mounted on /) and tmpfs on /lib/init/rw, udev on /dev, tmpfs on /dev/shm
[03:23] <ohsix> theres ~/.local/bin too
[03:23] <edbian> Meshezabeel: Then windows is not mounted
[03:23] <momok> sacarlson & std_err: ok friend thanks i will try to do that
[03:23] <edbian> Meshezabeel: Are you viewing the files right now?
[03:23] <sacarlson> jfarrell: you can setup the address in your /etc/hosts file to give an ip a name
[03:23] <DrMorphias> edbian, i know how i can boot into ubuntu, and thats using EasyBCD in windows but im trying to GET RID of windows lol
[03:23] <Meshezabeel> edbian: but I am browsing the windows folders right now
[03:23] <lovesthethianood> is there an alternative to cain and able for linux that handles ARP poisiong?
[03:24] <jfarrell> sacarlson, ahh, ok that is what i was reading here, but iw as not sure
[03:24] <edbian> DrMorphias: Well you need Ubuntu to boot before you can get rid of windows.
[03:24] <std_err> momok: http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/quickstart-ubuntu.html
[03:24] <barack_osama-> Meshezabeel maybe you browse it over network?
[03:24] <edbian> Meshezabeel: Really it's on the desktop?  Go into it and keep pressing the up button and see where you get.
[03:24] <Meshezabeel> edbian: yes, I'm viewing the files right now, it is on the desktop
[03:25] <edbian> Meshezabeel: Press up repeatedly and see where you get!
[03:25] <jfarrell> sacarlson, any idea how i can give the machine a static IP, my router is using DHCP, which is what I want for everything else on the network, just not this server
[03:25] <Meshezabeel> edbian: hmm, it shows up that it is under /media
[03:25] <edbian> Meshezabeel: That's where it is
[03:25] <ohsix> jfarrell: check your routers settings, they can usually be set to hand out specific ips to the same machine
[03:25] <momok> std_err: thanks maybe i should relearn to understand the basic nagios script again...
[03:26] <std_err> momok: sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. I thought... nvm
[03:26] <Meshezabeel> edbian: but terminal does not show it there, it only shows cdrom, cdrom0, floppy, and floppy0
[03:26] <sacarlson> jfarrell: you want your ubuntu box to be setup static on your lan or all your boxes that attach?
[03:26] <std_err> my mistake
[03:26] <chx> hi. i am about to get a new laptop -- does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/630748 mean that i better install 10.04 LTS and not muck around with the newer ones 'cos 802.11n for Intel is fubar?
[03:26] <guampa> anyone knows where to get the gallium radeon driver? tried xorg-edgers ppa but still have classic mesa, r600
[03:26] <Meshezabeel> edbian: I even tried "cd /media/Acer" and it says no such file or directory
[03:26] <edbian> jfarrell: You set the IP in /etc/network/interfaces and you give it an IP outside the DHCP range.
[03:26] <DrMorphias> ebdian, so push shift a bunch of times?
[03:26] <edbian> Meshezabeel: That is very strange.  I don't know.  Perhaps has something to do with fuse?  (userland mounting)
[03:27] <jfarrell> edbian, ahh ok, that makes sense
[03:27] <barack_osama-> Meshezabeel what "df -h" gives u?
[03:27] <DrMorphias> ebdian, how do i find out if grub is actually loading?
[03:27] <edbian> DrMorphias: pressing shift during boot time is what makes the grub menu show up.  Yes
[03:27] <sacarlson> jfarrell: if you want that all the boxes that connect to your lan be static then you could disable the dhcp server in your router and run dhcpd in your ubuntu box that can be configured to assign ip dependent on the mac adress of each device
[03:27] <edbian> DrMorphias: You press shift to get it to show the menu.  Some boot loader is running or the system would say 'no operating system found'
[03:27] <slakc> http://distrowatch.com/        this is a funny april fools joke had me for a sec
[03:28] <jfarrell> sacarlson, naw its just one box (the ubuntu) that i want static
[03:28] <jfarrell> everything else i want dynamic
[03:28] <slakc> 24 floppy disks :)
[03:28] <edbian> jfarrell: If you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file I can help you edit it.
[03:28] <momok> std_err: its ok its just because i need to learn the depth of the some script like to specific certain port, multiple url, certain protocol :P
[03:28] <DrMorphias> ebdian, ok ill go try that.
[03:28] <deshymers> TrickyJ: nope didnt help
[03:28] <edbian> slakc: hahaha
[03:28] <Meshezabeel> edbian: I don't know what fuse / userland mounting is :)
[03:28] <jfarrell> edbian, awesome, let me take a crack at it first :)
[03:28] <Meshezabeel> barack_osama-:  all that shows up there is /dev/sda1 (mounted on /) and tmpfs on /lib/init/rw, udev on /dev, tmpfs on /dev/shm
[03:29] <edbian> Meshezabeel: Read all about it.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace
[03:29] <sacarlson> jfarrell: then you can modify /etc/network/interfaces and define your ubuntu box to be static, it needs 3 values assinged  an ip, a gateway and dns address
[03:29] <edbian> Meshezabeel:  barack_osama-: Isn't it strange?   fuse?
[03:29] <jfarrell> sacarlson, ok, i just need to figure out my DNS
[03:29] <jfarrell> do i need a local DNS?
[03:30] <edbian> jfarrell: You need to point the machine to some DNS but usually you put that in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:30] <sacarlson> jfarrell: the dns address is defined in /etc/resolv.conf and you can use 8.8.8.8 if you want google to be your dns or setup your own dns with bind9
[03:30] <edbian> jfarrell: Your router will proxy dns for you.
[03:30] <loctrice> got my nick back .. I really should learn to be in more then one channel in the same terminal I guess
[03:30] <edbian> jfarrell: http://www.opendns.com/
[03:31] <jfarrell> and
[03:31] <edbian> jfarrell: or
[03:31] <jfarrell> 209.55.5.10 and 11
[03:31] <barack_osama-> sacarlson jfarrell  another open DNS servers are 8.8.4.4 or 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2
[03:31] <edbian> nand
[03:31] <sacarlson> jfarrell: edbian: yes you can use your router as your dns also or others as edbian states
[03:31] <oosh> hello
[03:31] <jfarrell> sacarlson, hold on, i got a million people telling me things
[03:31] <jfarrell> very new to this aspect of linux
[03:32] <loctrice> it's not me, I don't even know how to send private messages
[03:32] <edbian> jfarrell: install gentoo!
[03:32] <loctrice> lol@edbian
[03:32] <edbian> jfarrell: no no, don't edit that file!
[03:32] <jfarrell> sacarlson, 209.55.5.10 and 11 are what i have in my resolv.conf
[03:32] <jfarrell> could use these in the interface file
[03:32] <jfarrell> ?
[03:32] <edbian> jfarrell: they're fine where they are.
[03:33] <oosh> im new to linux.. and ive been noticing that my internet speed is quite laggy when using firefox 4... but with windows it works quite well.. what could be the problem?
[03:33] <edbian> jfarrell: You don't specify dns in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:33] <edbian> jfarrell: the /etc/resolv.conf file usually gets filled by dhcp
 jfarrell: then you can modify /etc/network/interfaces and define your ubuntu box to be static, it needs 3 values assinged  an ip, a gateway and dns address
[03:33] <jfarrell> ^^
[03:33] <loctrice> oosh: chrome is insanely fast
[03:33] <jfarrell> dns address
[03:33] <Meshezabeel> well heck, I'll just copy the files I need to my ubuntu partition from within gnome, thanks for trying edbian and barack_osama-
[03:33] <sacarlson> jfarrell: sure that works so just leave it
[03:33] <edbian> Meshezabeel: strange! :D
[03:34] <edbian> jfarrell: Meshezabeel I believe it's address, netmask, and gateway (not DNS)
[03:34] <oosh> im new to linux.. and ive been noticing that my internet speed is quite laggy when using firefox 4... but with windows it works quite well.. what could be the problem?/
[03:34] <jfarrell> edbian, current interfaces file - http://pastebin.com/UfkdtA1R
[03:34] <oosh> my downloads are laggy as well
[03:34] <barack_osama-> oosh is it on the same PC or is Linux on another PC?
[03:34] <oosh> same
[03:35] <edbian> jfarrell: You didn't add anything yet?  Is that on purpose?
[03:35] <jfarrell> edbian, i have no idea what to add :)
[03:35] <barack_osama-> oosh so u boot either into windoze or into linux correct?
[03:35] <oosh> yes
[03:35] <loctrice> jfarrell: do it from the gui
[03:35] <jfarrell> loctrice, not an option
[03:35] <oosh> internet, etc works just fine with windows.. but with linux its laggy
[03:35] <loctrice> jfarrell: ah, my fault.
[03:36] <loctrice> oosh: which version of windows, and which version of linux?
[03:36] <oosh> xubuntu and windows 7
[03:36] <jfarrell> edbian, goal would be to get this box to be named svn-server, IP 192.168.1.100
[03:36] <edbian> jfarrell: Something like this:  http://pastebin.com/mUbfH0ZB  I guessed at the IPs
[03:36] <barack_osama-> oosh maybe u have big ass update being downloaded if u just installed linux an hour ago
[03:36] <oosh> no no
[03:36] <guampa> anyone knows where to get the gallium driver for radeon? tried xorg-edgers ppa but still have classic mesa
[03:36] <oosh> my updates are current
[03:37] <loctrice> I don't know anything about xubuntu. I know kubuntu was not very good imo when I tried it
[03:37] <edbian> jfarrell: In order for the machine to respond to 'svn-server' you'd need a local DNS server or to manually edit every /etc/hosts file on every other machine.
[03:37] <oosh> its just a gui of xfce on top of ubuntu
[03:37] <mrdeb> what is
[03:37] <sacarlson> oosh: you might try change your MTU setting and see if that makes any improvment in your network performance http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[03:37] <oosh> xubuntu
[03:37] <edbian> xubuntu kubuntu
[03:37] <edbian> they're just ubuntu with a different gui
[03:37] <mrdeb> ok
[03:38] <jfarrell> edbian, ok got the changes
[03:38] <mrdeb> gnome works fine for ubuntu
[03:38] <jfarrell> for the hell of it, i am going to restart
[03:38] <loctrice> gnome da bomb
[03:38] <edbian> jfarrell: Try it out.  Save the file and sudo service network restart
[03:38] <edbian> jfarrell: That'll have the same affect
[03:38] <mrdeb> gnome jhas good features for moving windows, resizing., and it's just as quick almost
[03:38] <centHOGG> xubuntu = laptop
[03:38] <oosh> thanks
[03:38] <oosh> yes
[03:38] <mister2> anybody find a fix for kslowd00*? i found a forum thread but i didn't see any solutions on it
[03:38] <oosh> i have a laptop
[03:38] <mister2> or even know what its from?
[03:38] <oosh> and xfce is the shit
[03:38] <loctrice> oosh: it's a laptop?
[03:38] <FloodBot1> oosh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:39] <loctrice> oosh: is it wireless?
[03:39] <IdleOne> !language
[03:40] <mister2> anybody know if i can kill kslowd?
[03:41] <jfarrell> edbian, nothing
[03:41] <edbian> jfarrell: sudo service networking restart
[03:41] <jfarrell> cant hit it with svn-server or 192.168.1.100
[03:41] <edbian> jfarrell: and tell me what errors you get :)
[03:41] <jfarrell> edbian, i rebooted the whole machine
[03:41] <edbian> jfarrell: and paste.ubuntu.com   it here
[03:42] <edbian> jfarrell: sure but if you run that command and something is wrong you'll see the errors.  with a reboot you get nothing!
[03:42] <mrdeb> is there a way to enable the nice resolution in terminal after installing the closed source graphic driver?
[03:42] <Meshezabeel> edbian: barack_osama- I am stupid...my terminal was logged into my remote vps server, I thought I was looking at my local machine...guess I have to laugh about it now, but sorry to have bothered you
[03:43] <edbian> Meshezabeel: You've given me my sanity back.
[03:43] <barack_osama-> Meshezabeel heh that happens :) especially if u have a bunch of consoles open, I ussualy run hostname at begining if not sure
[03:43] <edbian> Meshezabeel: :)
[03:43] <loctrice> Meshezabeel: don't worry, we can all have a laugh. We've all done something along those lines
[03:43] <jfarrell> edbian, this is on a different machine altogether
[03:44] <jfarrell> and the machine is not really in that good of shape, externally
[03:44] <Meshezabeel> edbian: barack_osama- loctrice haha, thanks, have a good night
[03:44] <jfarrell> mouse doesnt work, so this is going to be quite the effort
[03:44] <Meshezabeel> (or day or whatever)
[03:44] <edbian> jfarrell: I can do everything cli with you so mouse is not needed.  Can you run commands on it?
[03:44] <edbian> Meshezabeel: good night :)
[03:44] <Zealous> i downloaded and installed the bisigi project and when i aptitude the theme i get "sudo: aptitude: command not found
[03:45] <jfarrell> edbian, yes
[03:45] <jfarrell> ran ifconfig, it doesnt even see eth0
[03:45] <edbian> jfarrell: that's ok. restart networking already!  :)
[03:46] <edbian> jfarrell: sudo service network restart
[03:46] <jfarrell> edbian, unrecognized service
[03:46] <loctrice> Zelous: is aptitude installed?
[03:46] <swim> hey guys, can anybody tell me what they know about ubuntu being compatible with macs??
[03:47] <massai29> disculpen alguien puede ayudarme
[03:47] <loctrice> swim: ubuntu has been put on kindle book readers. It can be installed
[03:47] <edbian> jfarrell: sorry, sudo service networking restart
[03:47] <jfarrell> restart: unknown instance
[03:47] <massai29> no puedo instalar unos controladores
[03:47] <swim> so, as far as anybody knows, is it compatible straight from install??
[03:47] <lament> swim: i'm running ubuntu on a mac right now, obviously compatibility depends on what model you have, help.ubuntu.com has a guide somewhere
[03:48] <edbian> jfarrell: sudo service networking stop && sudo service networking start
[03:48] <Zealous> loctrice: i have aptitude other stuff before which is why i find this weird
[03:48] <gslack> depends on what u mean by compatable
[03:48] <lament> massai29: #ubuntu-es
[03:48] <loctrice> edbian: you can /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[03:48] <jfarrell> edbian, same error
[03:48] <jfarrell> maybe something in the interfaces file?
[03:49] <massai29> YA BUSQUE AHI
[03:49] <massai29> Y NO PUEDO
[03:49] <lament> oh :(
[03:49] <FloodBot1> massai29: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:49] <edbian> loctrice: Isn't the deprecated?
[03:49] <edbian> jfarrell: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:49] <loctrice> edbian: not that I know of... depricated is funny on linux :)
[03:49] <edbian> jfarrell: I need to restart networking to get a handle on what might be wrong in /etc/network/interfaces but you can pastebin it now to save time.  paste.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <chipmenk> can vlc play files in a windows samba share?
[03:49] <edbian> loctrice: ok
[03:49] <edbian> jfarrell: yeah try sudo /etc/init.d/...
[03:50] <jfarrell> edbian, misplaed option
[03:50] <centHOGG> chipmenk: no joy there
[03:50] <massai29> nadie habla español
[03:50] <swim> gslack i sold my junky acer that i used as backup while on the road, i'm thinking about buying an old junky mac..  obviously i use ubuntu and nothing else (cept crunchbang) i'm looking around to see if i can just straight up install it without having to hack like crazy to make it work
[03:50] <edbian> jfarrell: misplaed ?
[03:50] <jfarrell> edbian, misplaced option :)
[03:51] <edbian> jfarrell: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   really should work.  try stop instead of restart
[03:51] <mister2> anybody know anything about kslowd?
[03:51] <sacarlson> chipmenk: sure why not
[03:51] <centHOGG> swim: how much $$$?
[03:51] <edbian> How do you restart networking in Ubuntu!?!?
[03:51] <jfarrell> edbian, bare in mind that i already restart the machine
[03:51] <chipmenk> how?
[03:51] <jfarrell> *restarted
[03:51] <jfarrell> before we did any of this
[03:51] <gslack> swim: I don't think there should be a problem as long as its a pretty standard MAC
[03:51] <edbian> jfarrell: Again, I know that.  I need to see some errors.  Can you pastebin that file for me please?
[03:51] <loctrice> edbian: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart            .........it works I did it today even
[03:51] <sancas> what can i do with ubuntu?
[03:51] <jfarrell> edbian, its on a seperate machine with no web browser
[03:52] <edbian> loctrice: That's what I thought.
[03:52] <swim> centHOGG like maybe 50$
[03:52] <gslack> I mean no homebuilt or hotrodding
[03:52] <jfarrell> edbian, give me a second, ill copy it by hand
[03:52] <centHOGG> kewl
[03:52] <swim> it's a g4..
[03:52] <centHOGG> good price
[03:52] <centHOGG> i think
[03:52] <edbian> jfarrell: You should install pastebinit (command line that's AWESOME) and pretty much pastebins for you.
[03:52] <centHOGG> swim: much mileage?
[03:52] <edbian> jfarrell: It is not long though right?
[03:52] <swim> well, it's pretty beat up.. which i like...  i actually hate buying and using new computers..
[03:52] <centHOGG> free
[03:53] <gslack> well might want to check Ubuntu's site for anything specific to it. but id say baring no big issues they list try it and see
[03:53]  * centHOGG latest mac is imac ruby
[03:53] <swim> i think i can definetly score it for under 100$ but i'm going to try a little closer to 50$
[03:53] <centHOGG> hell yeah
[03:53] <swim> i guess if i have to hack, it's worth it anyways..
[03:53] <gslack> run the live cd/dvd and try taxing it a bit
[03:53] <centHOGG> pm me and tell me the details
[03:54] <jfarrell> edbian, i dont think you understand.  I cant get to the other machine with ssh due to the IP problem
[03:54] <edbian> jfarrell: Ah, ok. sorry to hear that.
[03:54] <jfarrell> i have to physically roll the chair over to the shelve and read it :)
[03:54] <jfarrell> http://pastebin.com/RY16HU7f
[03:55] <DrMorphias> edbian it got me to see grub loading and then it restarted
[03:55] <edbian> jfarrell: Don't pastebin me errors like that.  It's a waste.  Just describe them to me.  I need to see the file.  Something is wrong in it.
[03:55] <edbian> DrMorphias: You saw the menu?  What option did you choose?  What options were there?
[03:55] <jfarrell> edbian, let me copy it by hand
[03:55] <jfarrell> one second
[03:56] <gslack> Anybody having issues with DHCP on a dual boot Ubuntu 10.10 and win 7 setup?
[03:56] <loctrice> probably a misspelling.
[03:56] <edbian> jfarrell: take your time.
[03:56] <DrMorphias> edbian it didnt show the menu. just a blinking cursosor and then grub loading then restart.
[03:56] <edbian> loctrice: yes
[03:56] <edbian> DrMorphias: Mmm,  I'm not sure.  Maybe grub is crashing?  If you can't get to the menu I don't know what to tell you
[03:56] <edbian> DrMorphias: Try resetting the bios?
[03:57] <DrMorphias> edbian like take out the bios battery?
[03:57] <jfarrell> edbian, http://pastebin.com/qjTD9JB1
[03:58] <loctrice> ace = iface
[03:58] <edbian> DrMorphias: There usually is an option in the bios to 'reset to factory defaults' taking out the battery is too much work for what you need to do.  We just need all the settings reset
[03:59] <DrMorphias> ok
[03:59] <gslack> usually also a lil jumper to clear CMOS
[03:59] <edbian> jfarrell: yep,  'ace lo inet' needs to be 'iface lo inet'
[03:59] <barack_osama-> yeah it should be on the mobo
[03:59] <gslack> usually right next to battery
[03:59] <edbian> jfarrell: Also, put a blank line between loopback and auto eth0.  It's not necessary but it's just good form
[04:00] <zhoule> hello
[04:00] <zhoule> hello
[04:00] <zhoule> hello
[04:00] <FloodBot1> zhoule: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <jfarrell> edbian, ok, restart worked that time without any errors
[04:00] <loctrice> edbian: sorry, couldn't help it
[04:00] <jfarrell> ssh worked
[04:01] <gslack> usually the jumper has 3 prongs, sits on two at a time. mine for normal is the first two prongs from left
[04:01] <jfarrell> still cant hit it with svn-server
[04:01] <griphown> any is using candidate version ?
[04:01] <griphown> anybody is using candidate version ?
[04:01] <edbian> jfarrell: hurray!  :)
[04:01] <gslack> to reset I have to take the jumper and place it on the farthest right two prongs
[04:01] <jfarrell> edbian, so, everything is working fine, except I cant type svn-server into putty and have it open the connection
[04:01] <jfarrell> how can we get that?
[04:01] <edbian> loctrice: couldn't help finding hte error first?  You just want all the glory!
[04:01] <griphown> candidate no have problems ?
[04:02] <DrMorphias> edbian that didnt work
[04:02] <edbian> jfarrell: Yeah I told you that before.  You need to have a local DNS server if you want to refer to machines on your LAN by hostname.
[04:02] <Zelozelos> im using easystroke to controll some stuff like switching workspaces, open a terminal, start an animated background via xwinwrap, what would be the terminal command to turn up/down the volume?
[04:02] <edbian> DrMorphias: I'm not sure then.  Sorry!  :(
[04:02] <jfarrell> edbian, roger that, I will look into that tomorrow
[04:02] <jfarrell> thanks for the help
[04:02] <edbian> jfarrell: no problem
[04:03] <loctrice> edbian: lol. glory! I didn't want to step on any tows
[04:03] <edbian> hahaha
[04:03] <edbian> no worries
[04:03] <loctrice> edbian: I was a newb on the forums nd in here for so long, I have been trying to help ppl out when I can
[04:03] <gslack> got a DHCP issue i was hoping someone could help with. I have a two physical harddrive setup dual booting win7 and ubuntu 10.10
[04:03] <edbian> loctrice: We all were at one time.
[04:04] <edbian> gslack: What's the issue?
[04:04] <gslack> booting the linux drive and using grub to choose between the two OS's
[04:04] <loctrice> I helped someone get a destkop earlier. It took me 2 months on debian to get my desktop
[04:05] <edbian> gslack: still not a problem...
[04:05] <gslack> anyhoo, I randomly can't get a DHCP from the linux
[04:05] <edbian> gslack: wired or wifi?
[04:05] <catito> hi
[04:05] <gslack> i boot win7 fine, boot linux after and no DHCP
[04:05] <Zealous> omg i love it how the windows wobble when you move it
[04:05] <gslack> wired
[04:05] <loctrice> I learned about vesa, and then learned that I needed the driver for 3d. Then I learned about finch, links, wget, and how to install stuff from source
[04:05] <catito> how can i install a .bin file?
[04:05] <gslack> i have tried several fixes so far
[04:05] <henrique> ola alguem pode me dar uma ajuda?
[04:06] <edbian> gslack: what is the output of sudo ifconfig -a   ?  can you pastebin it for me?  paste.ubuntu.com
[04:06] <edbian> Zealous: It is awesome
[04:06] <loctrice> catito: chmod it and then run it
[04:06] <Zealous> catito .bin is a image file unless nix has it's own version
[04:06] <m4v> !br | henrique
[04:06] <henrique> ok, me desculpe.
[04:06] <catito> loctrice, Zelozelos thanks gonna try
[04:06] <gslack> its very strange, cause its not all the time nor is it showing any errors in the configs.. one sec ill do a fresh one
[04:06] <edbian> gslack: k
[04:07] <Zealous> just got a nice background of tux taking a wizz on the windows logo hahaha love it
[04:07] <loctrice> Hulu told me to watch videos without squid because they don't support squid or vpn because of contractual issues
[04:07] <gslack> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:04:5a:8e:59:e0
[04:07] <gslack>           inet addr:192.168.0.100  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[04:07] <gslack>           inet6 addr: fe80::204:5aff:fe8e:59e0/64 Scope:Link
[04:07] <gslack>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:07] <gslack>           RX packets:720671 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:07] <gslack>           TX packets:596331 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
[04:07] <FloodBot1> gslack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <catito> -rwxr-xr-x 1 catito catito 84927175 2011-03-31 20:53 jdk-6u24-linux-i586.bin , how can i run it?
[04:07] <DrMorphias> edbian grub stores logs someplace right? i mean since its grub thats crashing maybe you can help me diagnose the output?
[04:07] <hurrpdurp> hello
[04:08] <Zealous> hio
[04:08] <hurrpdurp> I'm testing empathy on a vm'd ubuntu
[04:08] <loctrice> ./file
[04:08] <Zealous> eeeewww what is Tux doing sitting on paris hiltons sholder eeeewwwww
[04:08] <edbian> DrMorphias: If you could get the output.  Are you able to get to the menu?  I'm not sure you're even getting shift to activate anything
[04:08] <loctrice> catito: just type the file name
[04:09] <hurrpdurp> well good bye
[04:09] <BahrulHidayat> Hello ???
[04:09] <jcmarini> how do i get Clamav latest version on 10.04 lucid lynx... nothing so far listed in ubuntu home page
[04:09] <loctrice> jcmarini: compile the source?
[04:10] <catito> loctrice, i did ./file-name, and it works!!! thanks
[04:10] <barack_osama-> jcmarini apt-get install clamav
[04:10] <barack_osama-> ?
[04:10] <loctrice> barack: the latest version probably won't be in apt
[04:11] <loctrice> jacmarini: apt-get install clamav
[04:11] <loctrice> ?
[04:12] <Zelozelos> whats clamav?
[04:12] <edbian> Zelozelos: anti-virus software.
[04:12] <sacarlson> Zelozelos: something we no longer need
[04:12] <barack_osama-> Zelozelos antivirus
[04:12] <loctrice> jcmarini: compiling from source isn't really that complicated. It's if you have to track down dependancies
[04:12] <gslack> ok sorry for the delay got a new one saved to text now
[04:13] <Zelozelos> lol yet another reason i LOVE ubuntu...no virus worries (unless im sharing something w windows)
[04:13] <edbian> gslack: well where is it?
[04:13] <edbian> Zelozelos: heck yes!
[04:13] <gslack> sorry new xchat install
[04:14] <edbian> gslack: no worries.  I'm just eager to see! :)
[04:14] <loctrice> jcmarini: you can get it from backports, but that means you have to enable backports
[04:14] <Zelozelos>  got some kewll stuff goin on w ubuntu, set up an entire entertainment system controlled via a  lappie w compiz, easystroke xwinwrap a big-screen tv, 3d audio by the time im done all ill need is a mouse to controll it all, and maybe some voice commands...havent looked into that yet
[04:14] <edbian> gslack: Next time just use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:15] <gslack> ok cool
[04:15] <gslack> ty
[04:15] <edbian> gslack: You have 2 wired interfaces?  One of them has an IP address.  Can you ping 192.168.0.1  ?
[04:15] <gslack> still getting my handle on IRC.... yeas
[04:15] <gslack> had to to get a connection on ubuntu
[04:16] <wangpeng> hi
[04:16] <wangpeng> haha
[04:16] <edbian> gslack: The whole problem was that you could not get an address via dhcp?  You have an address...
[04:16] <wangpeng> 你们好
[04:16] <FloodBot1> wangpeng: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <royale1223> My networkmanager is disabled. How do I fix it?
[04:16] <j_duck2000> hi all
[04:16] <gslack> right now its working just fine but if i log into win7 and back into linux i have to reset my router
[04:16] <wangpeng> who are you
[04:16] <gslack> thats the problem, i can't get one after win7 runs
[04:17] <gslack> unless I restart my router via unplugging
[04:17] <Zealous> no more windows 7 hahaha fixed hahaha
[04:17] <gslack> lol zealous
[04:17] <edbian> gslack: can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of sudo lspci -k  ?
[04:17] <gslack> kids would die without there games
[04:17] <Zealous> sorry i had to say something
[04:17] <gslack> k
[04:17] <royale1223> Edbian: hi
[04:17] <loctrice> gslack: you can play games on linux
[04:17] <Zealous> but that is strange tho
[04:17] <edbian> royale1223: Oh hello
[04:18] <Zelozelos> gslack wine is comming along quite nicely as well
[04:18] <edbian> gslack: If they don't like linux I'm not sure you wanna keep them anyway...
[04:18] <loctrice> lol@edbian
[04:18] <loctrice> gslack: are you the network admin?
[04:19] <royale1223> Edbian: i have a problem with network man. Can u help me?
[04:19] <edbian> royale1223: What's the problem?
[04:19] <Zealous> only thing i can think of is a bad router as both OS should ask for the details on connect
[04:19] <royale1223> Edbian: it isnt running after an update. I think i didnt restart the pc properly.
[04:20] <loctrice> gslack: are the computer names the same in the two os's, and do you have dchp reservations?
[04:20] <edbian> Zealous: I'm willing to bet unloading the module before shutting down linux will fix the problem.
[04:20] <Zealous> :)
[04:20] <edbian> royale1223: what if you do this:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:20] <gslack> paste.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <mister2> make throws up this error
[04:20] <edbian> gslack: I need the full link
[04:20] <mister2> hm
[04:21] <mister2> http://pastebin.com/fNGgx4hM
[04:21] <mister2> ah, that one
[04:21] <gslack> file:///home/greg/Desktop/gslacks%20lspc
[04:21] <gslack> crap wht the hell am i doing?
[04:21] <gslack> lol
[04:21] <edbian> gslack: haha, good question
[04:21] <royale1223> Edbian: reconfiguring network interfaces. But still doesnt work
[04:22] <edbian> gslack: put the stuff in the text box.  press paste, give me the link to the new page generated
[04:22] <Zealous> hhmm i don't like to ask this but girls i know use msn for cam chat and my laptop is now a nixtap so could i still use the msn proacal and use the inbuilt web cam too
[04:22] <mister2> okay, so make throws up this error http://pastebin.com/fNGgx4hM when i try to run make from pianobarfly's directory
[04:22] <gslack> /home/greg/Desktop/gslacks lspci
[04:22] <edbian> royale1223: can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces  (paste.ubuntu.com)
[04:22] <gslack> file:///home/greg/Desktop/gslacks%20lspci
[04:22] <Zealous> coffee time brb
[04:22] <gslack> got it
[04:22] <gslack> dam
[04:22] <edbian> gslack: but I don't have a link...
[04:22] <gslack> shows a link on my end
[04:23] <edbian> gslack: go here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/   run the command in a terminal, copy and paste, press paste button, give me a URL.  http://...
[04:23] <edbian> gslack: You pasted file:/// which is not a file I can get to
[04:24] <edbian> gslack: sudo lspci -k  in case you forgot
[04:24] <kdog> I've got a USB2.0 drive that I would like to backup my laptop to. What ubuntu apps are recommended? I'm rather fond of backuppc, but would like a GUI option.
[04:24] <gslack> ok done
[04:24] <loctrice> mister2: http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/drm/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=17
[04:24] <edbian> gslack: Now give me the link to that website
[04:24] <acerimmer> Zealous: gwibber shows msn chat client, so I presume it's functional for chat.  IDK about the cam, though...
[04:25] <sacarlson> kdog: rsync would be one method and I think there is a gui for it not sure of the name
[04:25] <gslack> http://paste.ubuntu.com/588090/
[04:25] <royale1223> Edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588091/
[04:25] <mister2> @loctrice ...? Dream? and windows? i'm ubuntu 10.10 i'm pretty sure
[04:26] <gslack> sorry for the learning curve here just find that as i get better in nix i have to adapt to new forms of help..used to be easier lol
[04:26] <crackguy> can I install ubuntu server package on ubuntu or do I need to install one seperately?
[04:26] <loctrice> mister2: look towards the bottom. it tells which c++ lib will get you that
[04:26] <kdog> sacarlson: back in time maybe?
[04:26] <loctrice> mister2: c++ doesn't really care which os you are in :P
[04:26] <royale1223> Edbian: by the way, i'm trying to connect via mobile broadband.
[04:27] <sacarlson> kdog: seems to be many frunt end gui for rsync http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/rsyncweb.htm
[04:27] <edbian> royale1223: what does this output?  sudo ifconfig -a  (just tell me the interfaces no need to pastebin)
[04:27] <edbian> gslack: reading...
[04:27] <gslack> k thanks btw
[04:27] <mister2> loctrice: i don't really know enough c++ to figure out what bit relates to me...
[04:27] <edbian> gslack: Now.  to be clear. If you shut down linux and boot windows will you have dhcp or no?
[04:27] <mister2> or, c++ compliation errors i guess
[04:28] <royale1223> Eth0, lo and vboxnet 0, none connected
[04:28] <gslack> windows almost alays just fine
[04:28] <gslack>  a lil bit slow on occasion but other than that no issues
[04:28] <loctrice> mister2: it's a dependacny issue. I'm having a problem getting back to that post. I'll find it again and see about giving better instructions
[04:28] <royale1223> Edbian: i want to show you something intresting too
[04:28] <gslack> the other way tho is a hit and miss
[04:29] <edbian> royale1223: what is it?
[04:29] <oosh> hi all.. im hoping someone can help me... ive had xubuntu installed for a few days and my browsing and downloading have been extremely laggy.. Everything works fine in windows 7, so i know its not my internet connection.  Is there anything i can do to fix this from the ubuntu end?
[04:29] <gslack> one quick point: this did not happen for a year on this router using xp and linux dual boot
[04:29] <Guest75251> hola!
[04:29] <edbian> gslack: You should boot into linux with the problem (no dhcp address) and then look at lspci -k and ifconfig -a
[04:29] <gslack> happened after win7 and sp 1
[04:30] <centHOGG> oosh: try another distro livecd
[04:30] <sacarlson> oosh: I suggested try another MTU did you try that?
[04:30] <oosh> the mtu is fine
[04:30] <edbian> gslack: I'm not a Microsoft developer.  I have no idea
[04:30] <gslack> ok got ya
[04:30] <mister2> loctrice: which links did you need? i have both open in firefox
[04:30] <Guest75251> hay alguien?
[04:30] <oosh> its at 1500 which is for ethernet
[04:30] <chalcedony> i'm trying to install znc on ubuntu 10.04. it says to ./configure --enable-tcl   - i get an error:  error: tcl not found, how do i need to fix that please?
[04:30] <sacarlson> oosh: what values did you try?
[04:30] <gslack> lol i can tell ur nice and dint ask for a credit card
[04:30] <gslack> lol
[04:31] <loctrice> mister2: what app are you making?
[04:31] <oosh> its set at 1500... which is default.. i didnt mess with it
[04:31] <edbian> gslack: :)
[04:31] <loctrice> mister2: this command I found to get that lib sudo apt-get install libfaad-dev libmad0-dev
[04:31] <mister2> loctrice: pianobarfly
[04:31] <gslack> the things is its more a nuissance than anything else. after a router cold reboot its fine
[04:31] <loctrice> and it's for that error
[04:31] <loctrice> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515807
[04:32] <royale1223> Edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588093/
[04:32] <sacarlson> oosh: you should try 1492 and 576
[04:32] <mister2> loctrice: sweeeeeet
[04:32] <randomuser> i'm disabling wifi module sleep by whitelisting the chipset's module in /etc/default/acpi-support.  Is this the optimal method for the goal, and will restarting acpid enact the change?
[04:32] <mister2> i was wondering what i was missing :/
[04:32] <mister2> thanks!
[04:32] <edbian> royale1223: whoa.  I have never seen that before.  It is strange.  I have no idea how to interpret it :)
[04:32] <loctrice> mister2: no problem.
[04:32] <oosh> why 1492 and 576 specifically?
[04:33] <Zealous> Is msn messenger usable in ubuntu? i could use other programs it is just the web cam chat i want for the laptop
[04:33] <sacarlson> oosh: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[04:33] <centHOGG> oosh: try another distro livecd
[04:33] <gslack> tried one guys fix who had similar issue involving setting mac address in the DHCP client ID. didnt fix a thing
[04:34] <royale1223> Edbian: maybe a problem with dbus? How do i check?
[04:34] <oosh> another distro? why?  i like xubuntu.. i want to work the kinks out..
[04:34] <sacarlson> oosh: my one of my router didn't like 1500 with my new ISP not clear to me why,  I was told to try another value and it worked for me
[04:34] <centHOGG> if another distro works then you know it WORKS
[04:34] <gslack> allright logging off and going to try to get the error again (its random) and when i get it ill save the info and paste it thx again for the help
[04:34] <edbian> royale1223: I don't know :(
[04:35] <oosh> sacarlson: 1492 is for firewire...
[04:35] <loctrice> edbian: sudo aptitude remove connman  from : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594566
[04:35] <loctrice> try that?
[04:35] <mister2> loctrice: so i found the readme ._.
[04:36] <randomuser> oosh, a 1492 MTU is used because a 1500 MTU is the standards max and the extra byte leaves your router some room for NAT
[04:36] <loctrice> lol@mister2
[04:36] <Zealous> i downloaded supertux and the ext is .package and the site has no instructions
[04:36] <barack_osama-> Zealous try chmod a+x .package
[04:36] <barack_osama-> then ./sampple.package
[04:36] <Zealous> danka
[04:36] <oosh> so why isnt 1492 the default setting then?
[04:37] <IdleOne> why not just sudo apt-get install supertux ?
[04:37] <Zealous> i could do that too, force of habit of download setup files :P
[04:37] <barack_osama-> btw what is supertux :D
[04:37] <randomuser> oosh, i don't set the default settings.
[04:37] <Zealous> it is super mario version but with tux
[04:37] <barack_osama-> aaa ok I think I played it
[04:38] <oosh> i know... but it seems strange that we should need to reconfigure these networking settings
[04:38] <mister2> question: what libmao should i use for 10.10?
[04:38] <royale1223> Loctrice: hi
[04:38] <sacarlson> oosh: I guess my ISP uses  IEEE 802.3 http://www.danzig.us/tcp-ip-lab/ibm-tutorial/3376c28.html
[04:38] <mister2> *libmad
[04:38] <loctrice> the "latest" one in apt?
[04:38] <mister2> yeah but there's a bunch...
[04:38] <royale1223> !info connman
[04:39] <loctrice> hang one, let me look in my apt
[04:39] <loctrice> you'll want libmad0 and the -dev file for make
[04:39] <oosh> should i reboot after i change the settings?
[04:40] <loctrice> ocaml is another language extension, which you shouldn't need
[04:40] <royale1223> Loctrice: hi
[04:40] <loctrice> royale: hi
[04:40] <sacarlson> oosh: if the change is seen in ifconfig it should already be active in that state
[04:40] <mister2> loctrice: and what are pthreads and taglib?
[04:41] <mister2> i see no installation candidates on apt
[04:41] <mister2> (by hitting tab)
[04:41] <sancas> jey!! what can i use for download music??
[04:41] <loctrice> open up synaptic and search for it. it will install any other stuffs you need with it
[04:42] <centHOGG> jey!!
[04:42] <Wicked> anyone know of a easy way to update vlc in 10.04? its using a old version
[04:42] <loctrice> I'm not sure offhand what pthreads and taglib is
[04:42] <mister2> loctrice: kk
[04:42] <Zealous> fail: could not find "simple DirectMedua layer mixer (SDL_mixer)
[04:42] <Zelozelos> Wicked try the vlc site
[04:42] <Firefishe> What is a good, secure ident server to run for irc?
[04:42] <Zealous> i just installed it not long ago worked fine
[04:42] <Wicked> Zelozelos, they suggest using backports
[04:42] <kdog> anyone have a recommendation for ripping "streaming optimized" DVD movies to put on my forked-daapd server?
[04:42] <oosh> ok its been changed to 1492.. and its active.. but no noticable diff in the lagginess of firefox and transmission...
[04:42] <loctrice> Zelous: you need to install the sdl libs
[04:42] <Wicked> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[04:42] <Zealous> cheers loct
[04:43] <Wicked> which seems like a good way to fubar a bunch of stuff
[04:43] <anlek> Any reason why my cron isn't running daily? (or at least not that my script is running daily)
[04:43] <royale1223> Loctrice: can you help me with networkmanager?
[04:43] <loctrice> wicked: I haven't fubarred anything with backports. I usually recommend installing from source any time you need a more current version of something. What is it you need anyway?
[04:43] <loctrice> royale: I can try. what is the problem?
[04:44] <centHOGG> oosh: DOH
[04:44] <royale1223> Loctrice: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588093/
[04:44] <oosh> whats doh?
[04:44]  * centHOGG simpsons
[04:44] <Wicked> loctrice, well im having issues with vlc and some files..i was seeking help in #videolan but was told to update to latest and if the problem is still there to file a bug report
[04:44] <sacarlson> oosh: lagginess?  is it a dns problem?  test your dns or change it to 8.8.8.8  tools to test dns would be dig
[04:44] <centHOGG> oosh: try another distro livecd
[04:44] <randomuser> anlek, is your script in /etc/cron.daily ?
[04:44] <royale1223> Loctrice: nm is not working. It isnt communicating with dbus. Etc etc
[04:45] <Wicked> i see ppa's like https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/vlc
[04:45] <Wicked> but i tried that one and it wont update vlc
[04:45] <Zelozelos> Wicked what was the initial issue with the files?
[04:45] <anlek> randomuser: Yes, and it's got +x and belongs to root
[04:45] <Wicked> i think because it says maveric
[04:45] <ZanQdo> what does \; means at the end of a shell line
[04:45] <oosh> ok thanks for the attempted help... im sure ill be on later if i cant figure it out
[04:45] <ubuntu>  hey i need some help to install grub. So my problem is i have a windows pc that the boot loader crashed and i want to put grub on it from terminal whats the command that i need to do form a live cd
[04:45] <ZanQdo> why is it needed
[04:45] <anlek> randomuser: I can run it directly via root and it works, but doesn't seem to run via cron.daily
[04:45] <Wicked> Zelozelos, long story....vlc refuses to play 1080i content that i capture myself
[04:45] <Wicked> all other players play it
[04:45] <Victini`> hi
[04:45] <randomuser> anlek, redirect the output of the script to a log in /tmp
[04:46] <Victini`> im wondering how do i see my ip adress on ubuntu
[04:46] <Wicked> i dont really have time/effort to reitterate the whole problem :)
[04:46] <Victini`> with terminal
[04:46] <randomuser> ./script > /tmp/scriptlog
[04:46] <centHOGG> ping
[04:46] <Zelozelos> Wicked.. cant help there dont even know what a 1080i is
[04:46] <ubuntu> Victini`, ipconfig
[04:46] <centHOGG> ipconfig
[04:46] <anlek> randomuser: via > ?
[04:46]  * centHOGG buzzed
[04:46] <raido> Victini`: ifconfig
[04:46] <loctrice> wicked: install the source package
[04:46] <anlek> randomuser: But how can I do that via cron.daily?
[04:46] <sillav> hi... what's the mail icon in the top right of my panel... I used it to connect to pidgin and get on here, but is that all it does?
[04:46] <ubuntu>  hey i need some help to install grub. So my problem is i have a windows pc that the boot loader crashed and i want to put grub on it from terminal whats the command that i need to do form a live cd
[04:46] <loctrice> royale: I'm looking it up, give me a minute
[04:46] <Victini`> tried that
[04:47] <ubuntu> Victini`, you didnt do it right then
[04:47] <Wicked> loctrice, ?
[04:47] <Wicked> oh like as in compile
[04:47] <centHOGG> ifconfig /a
[04:47] <randomuser> anlek, you might have to do a crontab, i got mixed up. I'm not sure why it wouldn't run, though
[04:47] <Wicked> i was thinking source-deb
[04:47] <Victini`> look i port forwed port 80 so i need to know how to enter my internet settings
[04:48] <loctrice> well, if vlc offers a deb, then use it
[04:48] <anlek> randomuser: Ok, I'll give it a try... one more question...(one sec)
[04:48] <loctrice> just remove the apt version first
[04:48] <sacarlson> ubuntu sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice
[04:48] <mrdeb> what do you need with vlc
[04:48] <ubuntu> sacarlson, Thanks do i need internet for the computer
[04:48] <Victini`> so how do i get in it
[04:48] <anlek> randomuser: my crontab file says: 25 6	* * *	root	test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) however, /user/sbin doesn't have anacron... any idea why or if this works?
[04:49] <sacarlson> ubuntu: not to run that command no
[04:49] <giiker> anybody knows how to kill a screen sessions?
[04:49] <sillav> Victini`: it's ifconfig -a ... not /a
[04:49] <anlek> giiker: exit should do it
[04:49] <loctrice> royale: are you in the wireless group? which hardware are you using?
[04:49] <giiker> I think screened twice in a remote screen session
[04:49] <giiker> and can't kill it
[04:49] <giiker> anlek: just exit?
[04:49] <sacarlson> ubuntu: make sure you change /dev/sda1 to where your root partition of ubuntu is locate3d
[04:49] <sillav> Victini`: but unless you've set up your connection to use manual not dhcp, knowing your current ip won't help much
[04:49] <randomuser> anlek, if there's no anacron, install it. that could be your issue
[04:49] <anlek> giiker: works for me
[04:50] <ubuntu> sacarlson,  how do i check to see if it mounted
[04:51] <anlek> randomuser: so that should fix it? Any idea why that was in my crontab?
[04:51] <loctrice> royale?
[04:51] <sacarlson> ubuntu: cd into the directory and see if the files you expect to see are there
[04:51] <Victini`> so what do i do
[04:51] <royale1223> Loctrice: i'm trying to connect via mobile broadband. Its isnt a problem with wireless or wired. It affects the whole nm. Nothing can be connected. No connections are detected.
[04:51] <royale1223> Loctrice: yes
[04:51] <giiker> anlek: YOU R a screen God!! :) I have read the man pages and found nothing about the exit command, although i have used it before but forgot about it! thanks!!
[04:52] <anlek> giiker: glad I could help ;)
[04:52] <ubuntu> sacarlson, how do i cd to sda1 like cd sda1 or cd/sda1
[04:52] <giiker> now, going to split those screens!! :-)
[04:52] <loctrice> royale1223: you did the connman fix? that's where I came back to
[04:52] <anlek> randomuser: awesome, looks like it works! thank you so much for your time.
[04:52] <Zealous> hhmm spt-get can not find SDL_mixer is it under another name?
[04:52] <ubuntu> sacarlson, the command i use to mnt was sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[04:53] <giiker> I love screen!!!
[04:53] <sacarlson> ubuntu: you cd to where you mounted it so in that line we mounted to cd /mnt  ; ls
[04:53] <loctrice> Zelouse: it's in libsdl-mixer in apt
[04:53] <Zealous> aaahhhh this program was wrong then
[04:54] <xiyazhao> i don't use ubuntu.don't install soft.just play
[04:54] <ubuntu> sacarlson, ok thanks its mounted properly
[04:54] <royale1223> Loctrice: no, it didnt
[04:54] <loctrice> might as well get teh image and flast libsdl to
[04:54] <randomuser> anlek, it just tells bash to execute all the scripts in cron.daily
[04:54] <Zealous> sudo apt-get install libsdl-mixer = E: Unable to locat package
[04:54] <loctrice> royale: read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594566
[04:54] <royale1223> Loctrice: :(
[04:54] <loctrice> huh?
[04:54] <anlek> randomuser: But it's not installed by default?
[04:55] <ubuntu> sacarlson, ok the drive is sda1 i want to install so the commad is sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda1 right?
[04:55] <loctrice> royale: sudo aptitude remove connman
[04:55] <loctrice> royale: but you won't know why if you don't read the thread
[04:55] <sacarlson> ubuntu: no
[04:55] <royale1223> Loctrice: okay
[04:55] <Firefishe> What configuration file determines the sound system balance control (L----R) in Ubuntu 10.04?
[04:55] <xiyazhao> my ubuntu system is ylmf.
[04:55] <giiker> anlek: have you notices that when you have like 4 screens open, it gets really slow?! I wonder why 'cause it's just multiple virtual terminals!!
[04:56] <ubuntu> sacarlson, ok where did i go wrong with the code
[04:56] <sacarlson> ubuntu: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda    note: "/dev/sda  NOT /dev/sda1
[04:56] <anlek> giiker: I usually don't go beyond 2.
[04:56] <loctrice> Zelous: tab complete in apt after libsdl-mixer
[04:56] <randomuser> anlek, i guess not. your average ubuntu user isnt using cron.daily, so i suppose it shaves a few kb to leave anacron out
[04:56] <randomuser> ???
[04:56] <anlek> randomuser: well once again, thank you for your time (and teaching me a thing or two)
[04:57] <grindcrusher> !firefox
[04:58] <giiker> anlek: well, I have to, 'cause I ned one for my local terminal, one for my remote ssh and another one for my irssi, :( I still can't understand why! it's just a terminal...
[04:58] <rcmaehl> !ff4
[04:58] <randomuser> anlek, no problem, i dont know much but its nice to share.
[04:58] <royale1223> Loctrice: i have removed connman. Now do i have to reinstall?
[04:59] <Guest57435> Is it normal for gvfs to be running?
[04:59] <ubuntu> sacarlson, k im going to reboot do i need to do anything else first
[04:59] <loctrice> royale: reinstall what?
[04:59] <mister2> loctrice: got one more question for your expert self,  why am i getting this? i have pianobar installed (ps you can tell me to ask someone else if you're swamped)
[04:59] <mister2> oh wait
[04:59] <mister2> sending links is being anoying
[04:59] <mister2> http://pastebin.com/TH0kPvWQ
[04:59] <grindcrusher> ty rcmaehl
[05:00] <RKyle> Why is it that everytime I log into my Ubuntu 10.04 via ssh it tells me I have 250+ updates but when I run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' it says 5 packages were kept back. What happened to the rest?
[05:00] <loctrice> mister2: looks like it's looking for the man page for it..... is there a contrib folder in the source directory?
[05:01] <giiker> wau, first time I hear someone using piano, how is that working out for you mister2
[05:01] <ubuntu> WHY is everone asking me questions
[05:01] <SwedeMike> RKyle: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:01] <mister2> giiker: really well, actually
[05:01] <mister2> giiker: infinite skips is really nice
[05:01] <mister2> loctrice: yep
[05:02] <loctrice> mister2: is the pianobar.1 in there?
[05:02] <psycho_oreos> ubuntu, probably because you're using the default nickname which is the name of the linux distribution?
[05:02] <mister2> loctrice: nope
[05:02] <giiker> mister2: I read about a few weeks ago, but haven't had the time to try it,  I will tomorrow, wait infinite skips, how?!
[05:02] <drmorphias> guys, how do i login to my ubuntu installation from a livecd.
[05:02] <drmorphias> ?
[05:02] <ubuntu> psycho_oreos,  ya i thought of that
[05:02] <mister2> giiker: it just gets a new playlist like you refresh the page :D
[05:02] <loctrice> mister2: ls /usr/local/share/man/man1 |grep piano
[05:03] <Guest57435> Is it normal for gvfs to be running?
[05:03] <mister2> loctrice: nothing came back
[05:03] <psycho_oreos> ubuntu, change yer nick to make it less obvious and it might help :)
[05:03] <giiker> mister2: niiiicee!! I will definistley run this tomorrow, thanx
[05:03] <loctrice> mister2: did you make clean at any time during this? ./configure before make?
[05:03] <RKyle> SwedeMike, Thanks!
[05:04] <mister2> loctrice i did make clean but i didn't ./configure before i made
[05:04] <mister2> definitely forgot to do that...
[05:04] <ubuntu> sacarlson,  So i installed grub ow do i get it to see my os instalsions
[05:04] <mister2> ./configure then make then make install?
[05:04] <loctrice> mister2: most install packages with make have a ./configure . You run that to check things like dependancies , etc. it will help you figure out the libs to install
[05:04] <MTughan> I've got a question about Natty, but I can't seem to find the channel for it. Where should I go?
[05:04] <drmorphias> how do i login to ubuntu from live cd?
[05:04] <mister2> loctrice: yeah i was doing it from memory and i'm a little stoned >.>
[05:04] <loctrice> mister2: you need to make uninstall the pianobar if you didn't configure it
[05:04] <chipmenk> how do i get vlc to play a file from a samba share?
[05:04] <mister2> loctrice: i did it from apt-get
[05:05] <gslack> ok 3 swapping reboots and a puppy linux live DVD session later and still not producing the error
[05:05] <loctrice> mister2: ok. ./configure the program you are on now, it will list any errors
[05:05] <psycho_oreos> !natty | MTughan
[05:05] <MTughan> psycho_oreos: Thanks.
[05:05] <gslack> i thinks its laughing at me now
[05:05] <ubuntu> sacarlson,  are you still there
[05:05] <centHOGG> chipmenk: i can get video from a samba share... but not with vlc
[05:05] <mister2> there's no configure file in the directory with the INSTALL file...
[05:05] <sacarlson> ubuntu: yes it should have scanned and found all that was bootable
[05:06] <chipmenk> ok
[05:06] <ubuntu> sacarlson, thats what i though its just says grub/
[05:06] <loctrice> mister2: in the dir you are compiling from, run ./configure and see if it runs or you get an error
[05:06] <chipmenk> so vlc will not play a file from a samba share  period
[05:06] <loctrice> mister2: I've never seen a make without configure options
[05:06] <drmorphias> hello? i know this is possible because i stumblled into it before. how do i login to ubuntu installation while using a live cd?
[05:06] <ubuntu> sacarlson, it says GNU GRUB version bla bla blah  grub>
[05:06] <sacarlson> ubuntu it won't as default pick what you want as a default boot you need to select one to boot
[05:06] <mister2> loctrice: yeah, file not found o.0
[05:07] <icedtea> drmorphias: you mean login to your hard drive's linux partition?
[05:07] <drmorphias> icedtea, yes.
[05:07] <sacarlson> ubuntu: oh then you didn't select the root dir of your ubuntu when you mounted it
[05:07] <loctrice> ok, make clean and then regardless of what that does recall make
[05:07] <loctrice> see if make has any errors when it runs
[05:08] <mister2> loctrice: i don't have recall installed
[05:08] <sacarlson> ubuntu: you must have mounted your windows partiton?  /dev/sda1?
[05:08] <mister2> loctrice: i'll grab it in a sec
[05:08] <loctrice> mister2: recall = execute make again
[05:08] <loctrice> sorry
[05:08] <mister2> loctrice: ah... kk
[05:09] <royale1223> Loctrice: no luck still, removed and reinstalled conman, then restarted.
[05:09] <sacarlson> ubuntu: you must have mounted your windows partiton?  /dev/sda1?
[05:09] <drmorphias> icedtea, it was ch... something
[05:09] <mister2> loctrice: ran make with some warnings but no errors
[05:09] <icedtea> drmorphias: first mount the partition, then chroot into it
[05:09] <icedtea> drmorphias: you'll need to be root
[05:09] <drmorphias> icedtea, lol thats the one. thanks
[05:09] <icedtea> drmorphias: np
[05:10] <loctrice> jcmarini: later
[05:10] <loctrice> royale: I lost that forum thread. You reinstalled it? (you shouldn't have to reboot)
[05:11] <Zealous> Woo i got supertux working hahahahaha Jump Tux Jump!!!!!
[05:11] <lucidium> i'm having a problem with the installation of 10.10... the installer freezes at the update-grub step. is it a problem with the hard drives?
[05:11] <loctrice> mister2: what were the warnings?
[05:11] <royale1223> Loctrice: it showed restart to complete update option
[05:12] <mister2> src/ui.c:675: warning: ignoring return value of ‘write’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
[05:12] <loctrice> lucidium: that's actually a common issue with the installer for 10.10
[05:12] <mister2> several of those
[05:12] <loctrice> royale: remove it and then restart the networking
[05:12] <lucidium> loctrice, has there been any fixes? or a workaround I could try?
[05:12] <loctrice> mister2: those warnings are ok. make install again?
[05:12] <royale1223> Loctrice: okay
[05:13] <loctrice> lucidium: new disk is what I ended up doing. You can reattempt until it works, that's what I did at first
[05:13] <mister2> loctrice: cannot stat...
[05:14] <loctrice> mister2: you used apt to install the piano bar right?
[05:14] <mister2> loctrice: yep
[05:14] <mister2> loctrice: should i install pianobarfly wherever pianobar is?
[05:14] <lucidium> loctrice, any other versions affected?
[05:14] <mister2> and idk where that would be...
[05:14] <royale1223> Loctrice: done, what next?
[05:14] <zetoh> ubuntu 11.04 beta 1 was released, if i install it , will i be able to install sun java jdk, netbeans and virtualbox in it ( ubuntu =host , windows =guest) ?
[05:15] <loctrice> royale: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:15] <royale1223> Loctrice: done
[05:15] <loctrice> mister2: it's just looking for the man page. apt should have installed it
[05:15] <mister2> there is a man page
[05:15] <loctrice> lucidium: 10.10 is the only one I know of.
[05:15] <mister2> loctrice: i can man pianobar
[05:15] <loctrice> mister2: where?
[05:15] <lucidium> loctrice, thanks for the help.
[05:16] <mister2> loctrice: erm... idk. where do i find it? "whereis"?
[05:17] <Victini`> hi
[05:17] <moi> hi
[05:17] <lucidium> hi
[05:17] <loctrice> mister2: hang on. we shold just be able to make a link to it
[05:17] <Victini`> im trying to save something in /opt which is httpd.conf but it will not let me how do i make it let me
[05:18] <lucidium> Victini`, are you root?
[05:18] <loctrice> mister2: do you have anything in /usr/local/share/man/man1?
[05:18] <moi> only speak english ?
[05:18] <mister2> loctrice: nope
[05:18] <loctrice> mister2: pfft... wonder why it's looking for a dang manpage anyway
[05:18] <Victini`> yeah
[05:18] <lucidium> Victini`, is it mounted on a read-only partition?
[05:19] <Victini`> yes
[05:19] <royale1223> Loctrice: restarted networking..
[05:19] <lucidium> Victini`, do mount -o remount,rw /opt
[05:19] <Victini`> how do i let it allow me to save it
[05:19] <moi> where i found a chan for  french?
[05:19] <nmvictor> WOW! The kernel to be released in BSD license, isnt that threatening. Especially when Microsoft CEO talks of the move as something that would save their company[http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/46242-linux-kernel-to-be-released-under-bsd-licence], the BSD license permit the use of the kernel in a propiertary software with no much ado
[05:19] <lucidium> Victini`, if the partition is /opt
[05:19] <draven_sol> is swap needed if i have enough ram for my processes?
[05:19] <loctrice> royale: you find any networks?
[05:19] <ZanQdo> !french
[05:19] <lucidium> Victini`, otherwise replace /opt with the partition
[05:19] <BlackWeb> Hey does anyone know about networking with Ubuntu, The Problem I'm running into is when i share it then if i dont give guest acess to the share then it wont allow me to view it on other computer even after i enter the username and password
[05:20] <moi> yes and neew for IRC
[05:20] <royale1223> Loctrice: it says nm not running
[05:20] <zmbi> swap is not needed, but handy
[05:20] <Victini`> whats partiton
[05:20] <lucidium> Victini`, did you manually set the partitions when you installed? if not, then forget all those steps
[05:21] <Victini`> i don't know dad installed it
[05:21] <lucidium> Victini`, and if not, what exactly is the error message?
[05:21] <nmvictor> draven_sol: If you are not that much a user of you  memory, but if you are into stuff that would call for memory, swap is important
[05:21] <Victini`> premission denied
[05:21] <Victini`> when trying to save as
[05:21] <loctrice> royale: install the manager again , you can't get the older version if you don't have the internet for synaptic.
[05:21] <lucidium> Victini`, what program are you using?
[05:21] <draven_sol> nmvictor, it's for a server install running media serving, backups etc
[05:22] <mister2> loctrice: where are the other man pages? maybe i can copy the pianobar one over?
[05:22] <Victini`> xampp
[05:22] <loctrice> royale: this is beyond me for the time I have left tonight. I'm sorry I'll have to research it more
[05:22] <royale1223> Loctrice: i have the deb file.
[05:22] <david430> Attempting to set firestarter in startup applications getting error user must have root access to enable program have set user to administrator ubuntu 10.10
[05:22] <BlackWeb> Has anyone done any networking with ubuntu
[05:22] <zmbi> then use it
[05:22] <loctrice> mister2: I'm looking for them still
[05:22] <lucidium> Victini`, no, the editor
[05:22] <royale1223> Loctrice: how can i contact you?
[05:22] <Victini`> text editor
[05:22] <Victini`> gedit
[05:22] <BlackWeb> david430 do you have root access
[05:23] <david430> how do i set root access?
[05:23] <loctrice> I have no idea how to pm
[05:23] <loctrice> heh
[05:23] <lucidium> Victini`, ah. that's the problem. it's not run by root by default, so you need to start gedit through the terminal
[05:23] <BlackWeb> do you have the root password
[05:23] <joshmc> david430: firewall rules would seem to require root access. use `gksudo firestarter` or w/e the name is.
[05:23] <Victini`> how
[05:23] <lucidium> Victini`, in the terminal use "sudo gedit"
[05:23] <lucidium> Victini`, that will let you run gedit with unlimited permissions
[05:24] <rcmaehl> What about that 11.04
[05:24] <rcmaehl> What's new
[05:24] <joshmc> david430: as a rule of thumb, to start graphical apps as root prepend gksudo to the app. Just remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
[05:24] <rww> rcmaehl: ask #ubuntu+1 ;)
[05:24] <lucidium> joshmc, my bad. thank you.
[05:24] <loctrice> mister2: you can try to just stick a mock file in there. I don't know what make is looking for though
[05:24] <lucidium> Victini`, my apologies, use "gksudo gedit" instead
[05:25] <david430> ty will attempt
[05:25] <moi> OK i go!
[05:25] <joshmc> lucidium: not a problem! I dont mind sudo but it's from a F2 prompt or something it wont go nowhere ^_^;
[05:25] <Victini`> no that worked thanks
[05:25] <BlackWeb> I'm running into a problem when i create shares on my computer unless i give guest access to folder then it wont allow me to login even after i enter username and password
[05:25] <BlackWeb> any ideas
[05:25] <Victini`> sudo gedit worked
[05:25] <loctrice> mister2: what about /usr/local/man/man1
[05:25] <rich_> g
[05:26] <lucidium> Victini`, it did? well then never mind. Try again, and tell me if there's any more problems.
[05:26] <randomuser> is ubuntu's keyring implementation as effed as I suspect? I just had to manually delete a user's keyring when their keyring password was reset to something unknown, nothing but minor updates and a reboot to cause it
[05:26] <nmvictor> draven_sol: in that case, keep the swap but how much memory have you?
[05:27] <draven_sol> nmvictor, 4gb
[05:28] <loctrice> mister2: got it. are you able to man pianobar?
[05:28] <david430> that did the trick thanks
[05:28] <leagris> rcmaehl, Ubuntu 11.04 will be called Coy Carp and be available on 5"¼ floppy disk with kernel 1.0 for your retro computing enjoyment.
[05:29] <loctrice> you still there mister2?
[05:29] <david430> had an old pc with crashed windows put ubuntu on it to get it working again first time user having loads of fun with it C:
[05:30] <rcmaehl> leagris: ROFL
[05:30] <rcmaehl> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.35-28-generic |  Dual AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1000.000 MHz | Bogomips: 4007.54 | Mem: 1698/2512M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 170.73G Free: 120.88G | Procs: 188 | Uptime: 9 hrs 48 mins 55 secs | Load: 0.06 0.16 0.22  | Screen: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2) @ 1280x1024 (32 bpp) Corespeed:  | eth0: In: 1012.31M Out: 76.83M
[05:30] <rcmaehl> Sensors: HDD:
[05:30] <rcmaehl> leagris: ^
[05:30] <david430> is there a good antivirus for ubuntu or does it even really need one?
[05:31] <rcmaehl> david430: there are but they're not free and designed for servers
[05:31] <loctrice> david: it really doesn't need one. You have certain responsibilities when you admin a machine, but rootkits are your biggest worry if that
[05:31] <verin_> Подскажите русский канал, #ubuntu-ru
[05:33] <loctrice> mister2: I'm pretty sure all you need to do is make sure that directory path exists. /usr/local/share/man/man1 and try running the make again. I believe it's going to use that path to put the pianobar.1 in. If it fails you can go to that path and pipe man pianobar into a file called pianobar.1
[05:33] <loctrice> Im going to bed everyone. gnite
[05:36] <castle``> hi, running ubuntu 10.04, trying to play a full screen game but the aspect ratio is wrong.  my laptop is 16:10 and the game is 4:3, does anyone know how to adjust the ratio?
[05:36] <dublisk> 16:10 ??
[05:36] <lucidium> castle``, set the resolution in the game to something 16:10
[05:37] <castle``> 16:9*
[05:37] <castle``> the game doesn't have an option to adjust it, i thought maybe there was an xorg fix or something
[05:37] <lucidium> castle``, fullscreen apps set the resolution independently
[05:37] <rcmaehl> http://uni.xkcd.com/ you guys might find this interesting
[05:38] <castle``> lucidium, ok i'm going to talk to the devs and figure it out, thank you
[05:42] <Athen> curious, has anybody running 9.10 had problems when updating to the 2.6.31-23 kernel?
[05:44] <mute> Hey guys. I need an alternative to skype for a video call on account of the fact that it won't sign in and I have no idea why.
[05:44] <dharma> hi i need serious help
[05:45] <dharma> with a file issue in ubuntu heron
[05:47] <dharma> can anyone help with a shortcut issue?
[05:48] <madprops> dharma: fire away
[05:48] <aStewartS90> Hi, can someone walk me through removing past kernel versioning from the Grub 1.98 boot menu? I am a major newbie, so please explain this like I am 2 years old.
[05:48] <dharma> ok i had some files i was moving around back and forth, possibly dragging and dropping at times, but probably cutting and pasting... and the original files belonging to the shortcuts disappeared :|
[05:48] <BlackWeb> aStewart sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:49] <dharma> is it possible to recover them? i have no idea where they are, they are just gone and i have empty shortcuts with no file to go with them
[05:49] <dharma> it's ubuntu heron
[05:50] <mister2> how do i make a link from a executable to my /bin?
[05:50] <BlackWeb> ln -s /bin
[05:50] <DrkCodeman> why doesn't conocial offer its cd's in LTS?  only the latest and buggiest?
[05:51] <dublisk> cant you download it ?
[05:51] <JohnTeddy> I have a few backups with music and pictures... My directories are a bit messy. What is good software to use that will analyze files over 1 meg, and delete duplicates.. so I can start to clean up a bit?
[05:51] <JohnTeddy> It's easier to clean up once I've deleted duplicates.
[05:51] <dharma> so i had a lot of files on my desktop, some were shortcuts, i cut/pasted them into "All Desktop" and some of the shortcuts may have gotten pasted into the file with the original
[05:51] <dharma> omg
[05:51] <dharma> did the shortcut overwrite the originals??
[05:52] <dharma> because i changed the shortcut name to the file name? thinking the computer knew, like in windows, that it was not the original but a new file the shortcut
[05:52] <Firefishe> Where does ubuntu 10.04 store the config file for the balance control on the sound  system?
[05:52] <DrkCodeman> of course i can download ubuntu but i would like a official disk i dont see why conocial cant send out LTS disks instead of a broken build
[05:52] <madprops> dharma: that cant be because the shortcut and the files had different extensions
[05:53] <dharma> ohhh ok whew
[05:53] <dharma> so this is recoverable?
[05:53] <dharma> (in one case, once i found the parent file in a totally different folder, it made the shortcut come back to life as in solid orange vs. these weird graphics right now on the broken shortcuts)
[05:54] <dharma> the broken shortcuts have a blue machine cogs square icon, a padlock icon, and a square with x (envelope-looking) icon
[05:54] <madprops> dharma: so you moved some files to another folder and they dissapeared?
[05:55] <mister2> how do i make a link from a executable to my /bin?
[05:55] <dharma> yes, i think; or i moved the shortcuts to the parent folder and the parent folders appear to have disappear; only i can't tell where originals were because originals disappeared so i lost track
[05:55] <dharma> all i know is files are gone, the ones that go with shortcuts now called broken
[05:58] <guampa> dharma: you misunderstood a "windows shortcut" with a linux link and dropped the link over the real file?
[05:58] <draven_sol> i'm trying to create a raid, i rebooted but i keep getting a device busy error. how can i tell what is using the device?
[05:58] <ruan> draven_sol: is it mounted?
[05:58] <needhelp1> hey, anyone wana see something cool, check out omgubuntu.co.uk
[05:58] <icedtea> mister2: huh?
[05:58] <draven_sol> ruan, no
[05:58] <needhelp1> their main site looks to be down
[05:59] <dharma> guampa: possibly, i placed the link possibly mistakenly into the folder that had the file the link pointed to
[05:59] <madprops> dharma: if it had the same name if would have warned you
[05:59] <mister2> how do i make a link from an executable to my /bin? so i can run it from terminal
[05:59] <madprops> it would have*
[05:59] <dharma> oh
[05:59] <needhelp1> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk     check out their main page
[06:00] <dharma> madprops: but you said i didn't do anything dangerous because the filenames, by virtue of different filename extension, were not the same, right?
[06:01] <red2kic> needhelp1: Stop spamming.
[06:01] <madprops> dharma: you cant have them being named the same
[06:01] <dharma> madprops: ok one file i just found in the trashbin with all its folders, though it says it's a "link" when i click on it all the files are still there, even though the same link in the folder shows as broken
[06:01] <needhelp1> red2kic, sorry, just never seen that before
[06:01] <dharma> madprops: so did i lose the files permanently?
[06:01] <dharma> it's down to 3 files i cant find
[06:01] <dharma> i mean folders
[06:03] <guampa> if you overwrite the file despite the warning, the file just gets overwritten. original contents are pretty much lost
[06:03] <madprops> dharma: have you tried searching for the files?
[06:03] <dharma> oh wait it's 4 folders missing ...
[06:03] <madprops> try opening a terminal and putting "locate foldername"
[06:04] <dharma> madprops: i tried for one folder, it cant find it; the others i have not tried yet; i found one in the trash bin that the link opens up the files in the trash bin, but i dont know how to restore it without losing them
[06:04] <dharma> madprops: ok
[06:04] <wildc4rd> Anyone tried running AutoCAD on Ubuntu? (under wine)
[06:05] <xangua> !appdb | wildc4rd
[06:05] <ruan> is there a way to give internet to my phone using my computer?
[06:07] <dharma> madprops: what are the i forgot what you call them, sorry, after the command
[06:07] <dharma> arguments
[06:07] <madprops> dharma: the name of the folder
[06:07] <madprops> dharma: or file
[06:07] <wildc4rd> seems like the version I use works well, cheers xangua
[06:08] <dharma> madprops: what are the arguments to only search in "Documents" and not "Desktop"
[06:08] <iggy19> My openVPN has stopped working.  Error message says the VPN service has failed to start.  Would love help fixing it.  TIA!
[06:08] <Horofox> i installed vim on ubuntu and i can't fucking find where vim is
[06:08] <Horofox> how do i find it?
[06:09] <Nox33> My HDMI sound output stopped working when I rebooted, I must have done something and forgot how I got it to work.  aplay -l shows no devices.. Any guesses?  Maybe I'm missing a module in the kernel I modprobed?
[06:09] <dharma> madprops: it lists hundreds of files inside the folder; i have other folders named the same thing in another folder
[06:09] <guampa> Horofox: whereis vim
[06:09] <Firefishe> Horofox: language
[06:09] <Marcus_123> type vim in the terminal
[06:09] <Horofox> ty
[06:09] <usrusrusr> can someone answer a quick question about sharing folder between users on a linux box (not samba related)?
[06:10] <usrusrusr> I have a minecraft server running in my home directory, but i want to let someone else manage it also - what is the best way to do this?
[06:10] <dharma> madprops: the folder isnt coming up, that one is one of 4 or 5 lost folders
[06:11] <usrusrusr> anyone?
[06:11] <guampa> usrusrusr: the simplest is have the two users in some group common to both
[06:11] <madprops> dharma: have you tried ubuntus search?
[06:11] <usrusrusr> so if i have them in the same group - what folder should i use for that
[06:11] <usrusrusr> ya all the results i get are related to samba folder sharing
[06:12] <inthepit> hello everyone
[06:12] <draven_sol> how can i verify what is making a device busy?
[06:12] <inthepit> have a quick question if anyone is available
[06:12] <dharma> madprops: ok i found one folder again, i had moved it; it's down to 4 missing folders; i tried the search but it doesn't always work right
[06:12] <guampa> usrusrusr: minecraft folder i suppose no?
[06:12] <xangua> !ask | inthepit
[06:12] <dharma> madprops: hold on lemme try search again from browser and terminal
[06:12] <Horofox> how do i sudo myself to move files using the graphic interface?
[06:13] <usrusrusr> ya it is
[06:13] <madprops> Horofox: sudo nautilus
[06:13] <ruan> Horofox: gksudo nautilus
[06:13] <ruan> !gksudo
[06:13] <guampa> usrusrusr: then run in a terminal chgrp <dacommongroup> <dafolder>
[06:13] <xangua> !gksu | madprops:  Horofox
[06:13] <Horofox> ty
[06:14] <dharma> madprops: ok i found 2 more folders :) lemme keep trying, i forgot where i put them (after this is over i need to get it straight how links work :) )
[06:14] <inthepit> i cant seem to find a fix online regarding the contact list in empathy closing itself in ubuntu 11.04 beta, i figure it is a compiz issue, anyone know a workaround>
[06:14] <madprops> xangua: i run it from the terminal so sudo works
[06:14] <guampa> usrusrusr: you can do it from the folder properties too
[06:14] <xangua> madprops: how about you read what ubbotu said
[06:14] <xangua> !natty | inthepit
[06:15] <guampa> usrusrusr: use the channel
[06:15] <usrusrusr> guampa: But is there a common area below /home/<username> that things like that are usually kep?
[06:15] <usrusrusr> kept*
[06:15] <dharma> madprops: down to one missing folder; i think what happens is when i cut and paste links, it forgets what folder the link represents
[06:16] <guampa> usrusrusr: not in default install, no
[06:17] <usrusrusr> guampa: I am just trying to keep my folder tree clean - so i thought there might have been a normal common area
[06:17] <madprops> dharma: i dont think thats the case
[06:17] <usrusrusr> guampa: thats fine tho - ill just use the common group thing - thanks
[06:17] <dharma> madprops: ok
[06:17] <guampa> youre welcome
[06:19] <crackguy> can I RDP a Windows machine through Ubuntu?
[06:20] <iggy19> hey all.  I've been reading about openvpn, and I don't think I'm ready to be running it from the command line.  I have neen using it from the nm gui, and it's been working for weeks.  Now it says the service has failed to start.  Is there an easy way to cause openvpn to restart from the command line?
[06:20] <dharma> madprops: i brought some archives onto this machine from my email, some of which had folders of the same name as the missing folder; but the missing folder was tucked away inside Documents, so i don't think the new folders of same name on Desktop would have overwritten them
[06:21] <jrwyatt> crackguy install the remote-desktop package
[06:22] <madprops> dharma: thats good, you just got to keep looking, if it didn't throw any warnings the folder is probably still there
[06:22] <dharma> madprops: ok, and i don't remember if i got any warnings but i don't recall any when i uncompressed the files but they got  uncompressed onto my desktop into folders, not into the Documents folder where LostFolder1 was
[06:24] <dharma> madprops: the links are in the trash bin and when i click on them they say the target doesn't exist :/
[06:24] <icedtea> dharma: the links could be relative to their own location
[06:25] <pero> i was updating to natty via 'do-release-upgrade' and got to the removing obsolete packages
[06:25] <pero> where i hit ctrl-c like an idiot and aborted the install script; what should i do now?
[06:26] <madprops> pero: why did you do that?
[06:26] <BeyondSora> did u try restart?
[06:26] <Andorin> Is there a version of 10.04 that can be installed via a flash drive? The .iso I have is the same one I got on its release day, and it's got some odd error at the start whose specifics I cannot recall at the moment, but I was told a while ago that the OS was unbootable from a flash drive.
[06:26] <pero> restart the OS?
[06:26] <Andorin> I figure that it may have been fixed by now?
[06:26] <BeyondSora> try updating again i meant
[06:26] <pero> i opened up the details and ctrl-c was muscle memory i guess
[06:27] <pero> tells me 'no new release found'
[06:27] <xangua> Andorin: use unetbootin or ubuntu usb creator
[06:27] <Andorin> xangua: Instead of usb-creator-gtk?
[06:27] <tripelb> Hi Ubbies, I would like an equalizer for my sound. Please advise. (Ub10.04, I lied - sound card OUT, USB powered)  --> I found this  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/pulseaudio-system-wide-equalizer-now.html but I'm not sure if it's for me. I am using youtube for wound right now. (dont understand PPA, puseaudio) )
[06:27] <dharma> icedtea: i'm not sure what you mean, though i feel like i should know what you mean
[06:27] <xangua> AndrewMC: whatever is called now
[06:27] <tripelb> I've been asking this for # DAYS now.
[06:28] <xid> is there a way to view the filesystem as root can on other nixes?
[06:28] <icedtea> dharma: for instance, a link could point to a file in the current directory, or in folder and file in the current directory
[06:28] <pero> should i reboot and hope for the best?
[06:29] <digdug> I updated to 11.04 beta 1 tonight, and it doesn't appear to be using the unity interface; was kind of hoping to try it out
[06:29] <SN4K3> How do you create a link/shortcut to a file using the terminal?
[06:29] <xid> since hmmm nm
[06:29] <xangua> !natty | digdug
[06:29] <Andorin> xangua: Think you meant Andorin. Anyway, System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator (usb-creator-gtk) is what I've been using. Are you telling me to use something else?
[06:30] <digdug> oh yeah, thanks, xangua
[06:30] <dharma> icedtea: ok i'll just give specifics, the folder is called Tarot Readings and was in the Documents folder; a Tarot Readings 2 exists in my Documents folder; there may have been a Tarot folder but i can't find that (small chance i tucked Tarot Readings into Tarot)
[06:30] <guampa> pero: run an apt-get upgrade before
[06:30] <xangua> Andorin: usb creator, unetbootin, multysystem, the one mentionet at ubuntu.com, lots of ways
[06:30] <pero> thats a good idea.
[06:31] <donri> Since some update, I suspect libc6; locales are broken for me since a day or so
[06:31] <SN4K3>  How do you create a link/shortcut to a file using the terminal?
[06:31] <pero> ln
[06:31] <icedtea> dharma: I think the better question should be why are you reading Tarot Readings ;)
[06:31] <dharma> icedtea: i was hoping that wouldnt' come up :P
[06:31] <guampa> SN4K3: ln -sv <file> <link>
[06:32] <SN4K3> thnx
[06:32] <dharma> icedtea: i do great relationship readings :)
[06:32] <pero> nothing to update...
[06:32] <madprops> SN4K3: http://lowfatlinux.com/linux-link-files-ln.html
[06:32] <icedtea> dharma: so how about my girlfriend and me?
[06:32] <dharma> icedtea: cept my third eye is resting right now, so i'm avoiding them right now if i can actually :/
[06:32] <icedtea> dharma: boooooooooo! lol
[06:32] <dharma> icedtea: they take me a while, as i am very thorough and use 2 different spreads... i know! sorry lol
[06:34] <Andorin> ...okay, here's something else. I insert a CD of 10.04 and tell it to (boot Ubuntu / install Ubuntu). After the Ubuntu loading logo, the screen goes black and nothing else happens.
[06:34] <dharma> icedtea: i could do a very half-hearted one, that wouldn't stress out my third eye... just the thorough intuitive ones are too much right now until i heal (which better be soon so i can do reiki again too)
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: are you using an nvidia video chip?
[06:35] <guampa> pero: try "apt-get -f install"
[06:35] <dharma> icedtea: i will live if i can't find this file, i just have this awesome method where i statistically analyze the readings for patterns
[06:35] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Sec, let me find its specs
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Guampa: that will need prefixing with sudo
[06:36] <guampa> thanks ActionParsnip, hes using sudo it seems
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Guampa: just checking ;-)
[06:37] <itsNe> hey! Are there any sendmail guru's on?
[06:38] <pero> rebooted fine...seems to work
[06:38] <guampa> itsNe: might try in #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[06:38] <pero> that command didnt bring up as many packages as i saw in details i dont think
[06:39] <dharma> do you guys know if these files will be readable on a windows drive? i forgot how that works
[06:39] <itsNe> thanks :-)
[06:39] <guampa> pero: don't know what more to recommend apart from running again update/upgrade/dist-upgrade, that *should* make things consistent
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: add the bootoption:  nouveau.blacklist=1  if you are, if not then remove the bootoptions: quiet splash   and add: nomodeset
[06:40] <pero> na its cool; thanks again
[06:40] <guampa> ok, no problem
[06:41] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Here's the specs page http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5035352-5049563.html For graphics it has "ATI Radeon 3000"
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: ok, use the nomodeset route
[06:42] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: How do I edit boot options? Or should I Google it?
[06:43] <ashray> hi everybody, whenever I try installing some packages, I am getting the error "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?" . but when i saw the version of my ubuntu, I am surprised to 11.04. I previously installed ubuntu 10.10.
[06:44] <DaPenguin> Andorin, you'll need to edit the /etc/defaults/grub file
[06:44] <ashray> *surprised to see
[06:44] <Andorin> DaPenguin: This being on the CD?
[06:44] <DaPenguin> Andorin, sorry, just came in, this is the live cd?
[06:45] <Andorin> DaPenguin: Yes. When I try to boot 10.04 from a live CD, the screen goes black after the loading screen.
[06:46] <DaPenguin> hmm, haven't used a live cd in a while, but should be an option to change boot options before it actually loads up
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: a quick websearch would have found you this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html  try websearching using direction given rather than immediately asking how and you will learn your OS faster :-)
[06:46] <DaPenguin> or you could do that too :)
[06:46] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Sorry, it's been a long and tiring day, and I expected that dropping Ubuntu on this brand new computer would be a piece of cake
[06:47] <DaPenguin> full OS installs are very rarely a piece of cake, but ubuntu is better than most
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: some chips play nice, some need help
[06:48] <Kimmen> Andorin: more often than not you need to fiddle with video cards in linux
[06:48] <donri> locales broke with recent libc upgrade; ideas?
[06:48] <Kimmen> at least with at/nvidia
[06:49] <Orborde> My /boot ran out of space, causing a kernel update to fail. I went to Synaptic to remove some old kernels, but the removals also fail. It appears that this is because the old kernels are depended on by a couple of backported module packages, which try to rebuild the initrd file on removal, which fails because /boot is out of space, making it impossible to clear out old kernels from Synaptic.
[06:50] <icedtea> Orborde: why not just move one of the older vmlinuz's out of /boot and onto a different partition temporarily?
[06:51] <Orborde> icedtea: I rm'd an old initrd and reran Synaptic. That fixed it. I brought it here because this is a bug.
[06:52] <mbrochh> would it be possible to hit ctrl+alt+leftarrow and have a cd .. command issued in the terminal?
[06:52] <guampa> Orborde: you should use launchpad for report bugs
[06:52] <draven_sol> i'm creating a raid and continuously getting a device or resource busy error. how do i resolve this? the drive it's complaining about is not mounted nor do i see output for it with lsof
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Orborde: you could move one of the kernel files from a kernel you want to remove then make a symlink to another file so the package system still thinks it exists but it will be drastically smaller. Run the uninstall. If all is well delete the moved file
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Orborde: why have a separate /boot partition?
[06:54] <foureight84> how do you change midori's default search engine?
[06:54] <iggy19> ActionParsnip: maybe it's the only cleartext partition on the drive?
[06:55] <Orborde> ActionParsnip: I think that's how the installer set it up by default. I have a dual-boot Win7/Ubuntu setup, and the Ubuntu part (swap and /) is entirely contained in a LUKS-encrypted LVM.
[06:55] <Orborde> iggy19: You are correct.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> I see. I've only seen this sort of issue come of them, so I avoid
[06:57] <Orborde> ActionParsnip: Do you have another way of setting up whole disk encryption? I'm open to switching to a better option.
[06:58] <dharma> icedtea: something is seroiusly wrong, i clicked on another folder with my friend's name on it, it comes up nothing in there; but when i do another search that folder shows things in it from the terminal search
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Orborde: never used encryption
[06:59] <ashray> I have ubuntu 11.04 . whenever I try installing some packages using, "sudo apt-get install" I am getting the error "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?" . How can this issue be solved?
[06:59] <dharma> icedtea: so if it's lying to me about that folder, maybe it's lying about the other folder?
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Orborde: i reinstall a lot and i can't be bothered to mess around with that stuff every time. Simpler times. Plus I have zero tinfoil hats
[07:00] <rww> ashray: #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support
[07:00] <DaPenguin> ashray, i'm assuming you've tried the suggested fixes in that msg, correct?
[07:00] <qwebirc44173> hi
[07:01] <qwebirc44173> How can I use "pci=noacpi" option in Grub?
[07:01] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, add it in /etc/defaults/grub and run an update-grub
[07:01] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: yes.. but in which line?
[07:02] <icedtea> dharma: are you sure the folders are in the same location?
[07:02] <dharma> madprops, icedtea: my friend says to reboot, that wont make the problem set in more, will it? :P
[07:02] <qwebirc44173> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX ?
[07:02] <voidmage> why does find run on my home directory every day at 2am?
[07:02] <dharma> icedtea: in the same location as what? um lemme check what terminal said
[07:02] <guampa> qwebirc44173: if just for one time you can edit a line from the grub boot menu, by pressing "e" and adding the param to the "kernel" line
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc44173: add it next to: quiet splash  in /etc/default/grub   then run:   sudo update-grub
[07:02] <dharma> icedtea: Vol Vol Readings shows in Documents, but no contents; it comes up in Terminal *with* contents
[07:02] <qwebirc44173> guampa: k tks
[07:02] <qwebirc44173> thanks all
[07:02] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, _DEFAULTS
[07:03] <ashray> DaPenguin: ya i tried running apt-get update which was given in that message. Still it is not working.
[07:03] <icedtea> dharma: maybe its a permission issue
[07:03] <dharma> icedtea: it seemed so becaue a padlock icon showed earlier on my broken icons
[07:03] <dharma> icedtea: just now, the shortcut "Documents" that i deleted from Documents, showed again
[07:03] <DaPenguin> ashray, so it's an issue with broken repos.
[07:03] <dharma> icedtea: and then i clicked on it, it errored out and then disappeared again lol
[07:04] <icedtea> dharma: are you sure you aren't running windows?? ;)
[07:04] <dharma> icedtea: lol... ok Vol Vol Readings showed up again lol
[07:04] <dharma> icedtea: maybe someone's in my box messing with me? :P
[07:05] <icedtea> dharma: sorry, dunno
[07:05] <dharma> icedtea: my friend demands that i reboot lol
[07:05] <dharma> icedtea: brb
[07:05] <icedtea> dharma: K
[07:07] <voidmage> why does find run on my home directory every day at 2am?
[07:07] <icedtea> voidmage: probably a cron job
[07:07] <DaPenguin> voidmage, probably a cron job for it for whatever reason
[07:07] <icedtea> voidmage: system maintenance
[07:07] <voidmage> where would i find that?
[07:08] <icedtea> voidmage: /etc/crontab /etc/cron folders
[07:08] <icedtea> cron.daily
[07:12] <leapy0yo> how do i search if a package is installed and how to remove it?
[07:13] <qwebirc44173> OK the computer does not shutdown after OS . fans keep spinning
[07:13] <icedtea> leapy0yo: someone might have a better answer but I do 'dpkg --list | grep packagename"
[07:14] <icedtea> leapy0yo: to remove, dpkg --remove packagename
[07:14] <qwebirc44173> When I start ubuntu it shows "ac97 codec read timeout"
[07:14] <qwebirc44173> but sound work
[07:15] <qwebirc44173> what does it mean?
[07:15]  * lemonhall GNOME 3.0 Rescheduled for September 2011 Release
[07:15] <Vino> Trying to install Squid I get this: "Package squid is not available, but is referred to by another package." ?
[07:15]  * lemonhall GNOME 3.0 Rescheduled for September 2011 Release  Is that a joke????
[07:15] <DaPenguin> !find | squid
[07:15] <qwebirc44173> Vino: try squid3 ?
[07:15] <DaPenguin> !info | squid
[07:16] <icedtea> qwebirc44173: did you try sudo poweroff?
[07:16] <sagaci> lemonhall: ask in #gnome
[07:16] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: yes :(
[07:16] <abc1234> hey i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and i have no software center
[07:16] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: and tried to disable acpi
[07:16] <sagaci> abc1234: it's under Applications
[07:16] <abc1234> sagaci: no "Applications"
[07:17] <icedtea> qwebirc44173: weird, but I had one pc that did that too a long time ago
[07:17] <qwebirc44173> lemonhall: April fools maybe
[07:17] <DaPenguin> i dunno, apt has always worked for me lol
[07:17] <abc1234> accesories, internet, office, sound and video
[07:17] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: do you remember how you fix it?
[07:17] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: what do you wanna do?
[07:17] <abc1234> install software
[07:18] <leapy0yo> how do i renumber a screen instance?
[07:18] <YankDownUnder> Ubuntu stopped giving away software as of this morning.
[07:18] <leapy0yo> screen window i mean
[07:18] <icedtea> qwebirc44173: no, in fact I have a windows xp machine do the same thing. Check the bios power options or somewhere in the bios
[07:18] <syedomar> how to enable compiz? im using ubuntu beta
[07:18] <Kimmen> !natty | syedomar
[07:19] <DaPenguin> YankDownUnder, yeah, forgot to renew my software license. system crashed saying something about a failed UGA check ;)
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> syedomar, compiz --replace
[07:19] <syedomar> ok thanks Kimmen
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> DaPenguin, Send your re-certification money to me. I'll take care of it. That'll be $320 USD, please. :)
[07:19] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: could be Ubuntu's power saving options?
[07:19] <abc1234> it's still march here
[07:20] <YankDownUnder> abc1234, Not for long...hehehehehehehe
[07:20] <abc1234> anyway, i found the synaptic package manager
[07:20] <qwebirc44173> syedomar: install compiz fuzion icon
[07:20] <syedomar> arg
[07:20] <syedomar> right
[07:20] <qwebirc44173> then you just switch
[07:21] <qwebirc44173> :)
[07:21] <dharma> icedtea: i'm back, i suspect the file is gone but why i don't know, the new files of same name got uncompressed onto the desktop, this folder was in Documents
[07:21] <qwebirc44173> but you can do it a command like replace ..
[07:21] <qwebirc44173> cant remember
[07:21] <DaPenguin> YankDownUnder, nah, think I'll just this cracked version i have sitting around lol
[07:21] <Vino> okay. so there's a squid package that has 2.0 and is labeled stable, and a squid3 package that's not labeled stable. if i don't want any problems i should go with regular squid right?
[07:21] <dharma> icedtea: maybe i moved the file; and i do suspect my other problems had to do with permissions, i never read all these linux books i have here
[07:21] <icedtea> qwebirc44173: it could be sometype of kernel setting not sure
[07:21] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: or kernel bug?
[07:21] <dharma> does anyone know the argument to search for a folder but only bring up folder results, not files?
[07:21] <cgcardona> i just created a user and gave them sudo powers and confirmed that the pub/private keys are working. Now I would like to disable password login. Is that done in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file at PasswordAuthentication no ?
[07:22] <syedomar> fglrx is better than radeon right?
[07:22] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: the  computer is kinda old.
[07:22] <icedtea> dharma: you should. I learned a lot from my linux book
[07:22] <syedomar> for 3D
[07:22] <abc1234> how do i view available wifi networks?
[07:22] <icedtea> qwebirc44173: absolutely, but check the bios first
[07:22] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: click on network manager applet right corner bottom
[07:22] <DaPenguin> abc1234, couple of ways, network manager probably the easiest
[07:22] <abc1234> i don't have that
[07:22] <icedtea> qwebirc44173: play with different bios acpi or apm or whatever options
[07:22] <dharma> icedtea: i know, i've just been sick for a long time, now freaking out about the radiation coming to u.s.
[07:23] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: no, right corner top
[07:23] <qwebirc44173> :P
[07:23] <abc1234> it's not there either :-P
[07:23] <abc1234> just the recycling bin
[07:23] <abc1234> and the clock
[07:23] <dharma> icedtea: i'd still be on windows if i didn't neglect my machine while i was heartbroken, and have malware make it unusable (til i get the data off it)
[07:23] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: system preferences network connecitons
[07:24] <dharma> icedtea: i might just break out my linux book, but it wsa in the moldy room lol... brb
[07:24] <icedtea> dharma: I wouldn't be worried about the radiation, probably get more from the microwave ;)
[07:24] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: btw I tried to disable acpi apm options in bios
[07:24] <abc1234> that doens't show any avaialble networks
[07:24] <DaPenguin> actually, you get more from standing outside for 5 minutes lol
[07:24] <abc1234> also i installed network-manager-gnome but i don't know how to launch it
[07:25] <YankDownUnder> Apple Magic Mouse. Horrible for radiation. Fries yer liverf.
[07:25] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: dude, click Add button
[07:25] <abc1234> i have to enter everything manually?
[07:25] <qwebirc44173> no
[07:25] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: it's just your applet didnt start. alt+f2 and type nm-applet
[07:26] <qwebirc44173> should open.
[07:26] <qwebirc44173> Amaranth: enough
[07:26] <qwebirc44173> :) tks
[07:26] <dharma> icedtea: we cant trust the EPA (raising radiation safety limits thousands of times), the rad is in the milk now and in rainwater, and there thousands x levels I-131 in the sea by japan
[07:26] <abc1234> ok that made the icon show up, but when it click it, it says "NetworkManager is not running.."
[07:27] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: open a terminal and type sudo service network-manager start
[07:27] <DaPenguin> have you rebooted since installing it?
[07:27] <dharma> icedtea: and you say not to worry? do you know that thyroid cancer skyrocketed here after chernobyl? and these are 4 reactors (and spent fuel pools) which are leaking 24/7 for weeks now... and into the sea now
[07:27] <ayecee> dharma: the only safe level of radiation is no radiation, eh?
[07:27] <greppy> !ot | dharma
[07:27] <dharma> icedtea: i mean the water they were using to cool it goes back into the sea
[07:27] <dharma> icedtea: yes
[07:27] <dharma> greppy: ok
[07:27] <qwebirc44173> dharma: stop with offtopic tks
[07:28] <abc1234> now when i click it says "device not managed" and "device not ready"
[07:28] <camer0ff> hi, was just wondering if there is a way to run an application on one terminal window, put it to background, then pull it to fg on another terminal window?
[07:28] <mobius2> greetings,  has anyone present gotten an aiptek usb tablet to function in karmic koala?
[07:28] <greppy> camer0ff: take a look at GNU screen
[07:28] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[07:28] <greppy> camer0ff: you can install it with apt-get install screen
[07:29] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: your installation is pretty "%$ up
[07:29] <camer0ff> greppy: thanks, will check it out
[07:29] <abc1234> it's ubuntu studio 10.10
[07:29] <Kimmen> camer0ff: or use tmux or byobu
[07:29] <mobius2> I am reading the information located at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet   but I do not see anything about karmic specifically
[07:29] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: well, you should use ubuntu desktop edition!
[07:29] <camer0ff> Kimmen: is there any difference between screen, tmux, and byobu?
[07:29] <abc1234> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[07:29] <abc1234> utility, e.g. service networking start
[07:29] <abc1234> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[07:29] <abc1234> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start networking
[07:29] <FloodBot1> abc1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <abc1234> networking stop/waiting
[07:30] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: try restart
[07:30] <dharma> icedtea: so i have my nutshell book here
[07:30] <qwebirc44173> abc1234: and sudo service networking restart
[07:30] <qwebirc44173> abountu1: you should be using Desktop edition.
[07:30] <Kimmen> camer0ff: byobu adds a statusbar to screen, tmux is like screen but feels snappier for me =P
[07:31] <qwebirc44173> ..
[07:32] <camer0ff> Kimmen: ooh... probably could use the status bar if it shows the shortcuts. however, snappier is nice. I will be running over ssh on the net.... so it may narrow the differences between tmux and screen :P
[07:32] <leapy0yo> how could i remove a set of dpkg packages  such that  libglib-2.0*  all those packages matching that are removed?
[07:32] <camer0ff> leapy0yo: sudo apt-get purge libglib-2.0* ?
[07:33] <Kimmen> camer0ff: tmux also has the statusbar but byobus is more customizable. however byobu is a bit more buggy
[07:33] <leapy0yo> camer0ff, it asks for specific packages
[07:33] <Kimmen> camer0ff: try them all, there's great guides on the net to get you started =)
[07:34] <camer0ff> Kimmen: difference in support for tmux against screen?
[07:34] <camer0ff> leapy0yo: oh :(
[07:34] <dharma> ok i have the arguments for locate command, just need to be able to form a path
[07:35] <camer0ff> Kimmen: do you just ^1, ^2 etc between the screens?
[07:36] <Kimmen> camer0ff: the prefix is different in tmux but yes you use the prefix key-combo then 1, 2, 3 etc. tmux codebase is newer
[07:36] <chobito01> How can I get hardware acceleration with firefox 4, on 10.10?
[07:36] <camer0ff> Kimmen: just installed tmux then... do i need to restart applications to start using it?
[07:37] <Kimmen> camer0ff: read up on the man page to learn the basic key bindings or read online howto change them to your liking. Then just start tmux and launch something in it
[07:37] <chobito01> WebGL works, but witout hardware acceleration, the compositing takes up all the CPU.
[07:38] <Kimmen> camer0ff: One big difference between tmux and screen is that you can share your tmux session with multiple "real" terminals so all see the same thing
[07:38] <zykes-> anyone know if there's an updated backport of libvirt for lucid?
[07:38] <syedomar> !natty | syedomar
[07:39] <greppy> Kimmen: you can do that with screen as well.
[07:40] <Kimmen> greppy: ok, never got that far with screen since I liked tmux better. Just got warnings when trying to attach a session which was already attached elsewhere
[07:40] <syedomar> thanks
[07:40] <Kimmen> zykes-: is this something interesting perhaps? https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/kvm-libvirt-lts
[07:41] <Firefishe> When using chromium-browser, when I x out of it (close by using x-window frame x-button), my entire system crashes.
[07:43] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: pci amp disabled does not work, pci=noacpi in grub does not work, disabling most services and shutdown does not work. dont know what else I can do....
[07:43] <qwebirc44173> it wont stop the fans!
[07:44] <mobius2> I am attempting to install an aiptek tablet to ubuntu karmic....   the instructions I am reading call for a .conf  file to be created  in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d  but karmic does not seem to have this directory...  I assume that is because karmic does not use an  xorg.conf file ?  Can anyone offer any tip on where this directory would reside in Karmic?
[07:44] <camer0ff> Kimmen: thanks, this is pretty cool... tmux attach'd from my phone to the terminal, and can write stuff in real time
[07:44] <camer0ff> Kimmen: fancy :D
[07:44] <Kimmen> camer0ff: ;)
[07:45] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: configuration is not usually in /usr/share/
[07:45] <chobito01> Anyone know anything about FF4 hardware acceleration on 10.10?
[07:45] <chobito01> Does it work?
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> chobito01: it should other it wont be there
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> wouldnt*
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> chobito01: it should otherwise it wooldnt be there :)
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> wouldn't
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> keyboard fail
[07:46] <dharma> icedtea: aha i dont have permission to view lost + found folder
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> dharma: of course not
[07:46] <chobito01> qwebirc44173: Do you have to enable it?
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> you need to be root
[07:46] <qwebirc44173> chobito01: yes
[07:46] <dharma> icedtea: while i take an hour figuring out how to write out a file path
[07:46] <chobito01> qwebirc44173: How.
[07:47] <dharma> qwebirc44173: how do i be root?
[07:47] <qwebirc44173> chobito01: I just enabled in firefox..
[07:47] <mobius2> Stupendoussteve,  I am reading from these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet
[07:47] <qwebirc44173> dharma: sudo -s
[07:47] <qwebirc44173> via terminal
[07:47] <qwebirc44173> or gksudo nautilus
[07:47] <mobius2> Stupendoussteve,   they seemed fairly straight forward,  I am simply not finding anything the author is talking about
[07:47] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: Interesting... in that case, create the directory it says to
[07:48] <dharma> qwebirc44173: is that a one time thing you are telling me to do?
[07:48] <chobito01> qwebirc44173: It's set to on, but it's not on - what could be the problem?
[07:49] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: It's odd that you don't have that directory, most of the xorg input packages put files there
[07:49] <chobito01> Typing in about:support in the navigation bar shows that hardware acceleration is actually off.
[07:49] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: Wait, I just noticed... the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is for Maverick
[07:49] <chobito01> How can I see what the problem is, other than just seeing that it's off.
[07:49] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: You said you
[07:50] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: you're on Karmic? You need to do the 8.10 - 9.10 instructions
[07:50] <mobius2> Stupendoussteve,  kk
[07:50] <dharma> qwebirc44173: so do i have to do this each time i log on? i was looking for a file from the file browser, i don't know how to do complicated searches (as in with arguments) from terminal
[07:50] <qwebirc44173> How can I disable all the power management via CLI
[07:51] <eoss> hello how to understand how computer work???
[07:51] <qwebirc44173> dharma: why you want access lost+found
[07:51] <qwebirc44173> !ubuntu | eoss
[07:51] <dharma> qwebirc44173: i lost a huge folder; the shortcut suddenly points to nothing
[07:52] <dagon666> im having problems with my software raid, it seems that sometimes not all disks are visible at boot time and the array cannot be assembled. bootdegraded=yes seems not to work
[07:53] <camer0ff> .
[07:53]  * mobius2 tried using Windows today and felt like I used to feel when I tried to use Linux....   talk about twilight zone....  :P    gave me a huge smile though 
[07:54] <qwebirc44173> !ot | mobius2
[07:54] <qwebirc44173> What is the purpose of lost+found folder?
[07:54] <dagon666> im having problems with my software raid, it seems that sometimes not all disks are visible at boot time and the array cannot be assembled. bootdegraded=yes seems not to work
[07:55] <dharma> qwebirc44173: something about files that may get lost with crashes and stuff; my folder's not in there anyway
[07:55] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: when fsck finds file inodes for which it can not find a directory entry, it puts them in lost+found
[07:56] <ayecee> apparently this was a frequent enough occurence to make a conventional directory for
[07:57] <qwebirc44173> dharma: create a "lostandfound" folder in your home and then in terminal type sudo cp -r  /home/lost+found ~/lostandfound
[07:57] <qwebirc44173> i think that works
[07:57] <Technicus> Hello . . . which kernel version does Lcid use?
[07:57] <ayecee> Technicus: what is Lcid?
[07:57] <qwebirc44173> dagon666: and forget to chmod -R 755 ~/recovered
[07:57] <Kimmen> Technicus: 2.6.32-*
[07:57] <qwebirc44173> dagon666: and forget to chmod -R 755 ~/lostandfound :)
[07:57] <qwebirc44173> http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=46&topicid=18534
[07:57] <qwebirc44173> dammit
[07:57] <dharma> qwebirc44173: why do i need to create a new lost+found when i already have one? and the folder's not in there anyway? (and i'm hungry)
[07:58] <qwebirc44173> dharma: ........................... lostandfound is an example
[07:58] <qwebirc44173> ...........
[07:58] <dagon666> qwebirc44173: I was not the author of this question and to be honest I dont care a lot
[07:58] <dharma> qwebirc44173: ah ok
[07:58] <qwebirc44173> dagon666: I know. it's mibbit failing
[07:58] <dharma> qwebirc44173: i'm in nautilus anyway
[07:58] <qwebirc44173> ........
[07:59] <mlmg317-himts> Hello.  I am just wondering if I can recover content of the clipboard in Ubuntu?  Can anyone help me?
[07:59] <DaPenguin> mlmg317-himts, what do you mean by recover?
[07:59] <mlmg317-himts> I copied something, then I accidently copied something after that - thereby losing what I had originally copied.  I'd rather not have to type it all over again ...
[07:59] <mlmg317-himts> It's like a couple paragraphs worth and very carefully worded ...
[08:00] <mlmg317-himts> DaPenguin: Thanks - yeah see the two entries I just sent ...
[08:00] <dharma> qwebirc44173: if i can't find the file in documents or desktop, does that mean it was deleted somehow? or that my permissions still might be off?
[08:00] <dagon666> I'll try one more time: im having problems with my software raid, it seems that sometimes not all disks are visible at boot time and the array cannot be assembled. bootdegraded=yes seems not to work
[08:00] <DaPenguin> mlmg317-himts, not that i'm aware of unfortunately
[08:00] <dharma> qwerbirc44173: i may give up soon for the night though
[08:01] <qwebirc44173> dharma: dude, if you deleted the files permanently you cant recover them just like tha
[08:01] <qwebirc44173> you need to run recovering tools
[08:01] <mlmg317-himts> DaPenguin: Hmm.  That's strange.  It's like a basic function that you would think would have been developed for Ubuntu ...
[08:01] <qwebirc44173> i think lost+found is for damaged files
[08:01] <mithran> hi can someone tell me a good native tool to use for ubuntu, to take ssh/telnet of an appliance and store the logs, term type, , etc?
[08:01] <qwebirc44173> dont know more.
[08:01] <mithran> is xshell good?
[08:01] <ayecee> mlmg317-himts: recovering clipboards? that would be an interesting and rarely used feature, i think
[08:01] <dharma> qwebird44173:  yes i assumed i couldnt recover them, i forgot about recovery tools since i've only used them in windows
[08:01] <qwebirc44173> mithran: ##linux
[08:02] <mlmg317-himts> DaPenguin: Windows has an application where you can see all text copied to the "Clipboard" ...
[08:02] <dharma> qwebirc44173: thanks for the help though
[08:02] <mlmg317-himts> qwebirc44173: I'm not talking about whole files.  I'm simply talking about copied text ...
[08:02] <ayecee> mlmg317-himts: however, clipboard will only show you the current contents, not the previously, overwritten contents.
[08:03] <mlmg317-himts> ayecee: Oh - OK.  So Ubuntu does not have that function?  If so, good to know I guess ...
[08:03] <qwebirc44173> mlmg317-himts: c'
[08:03] <qwebirc44173> ??
[08:03] <DaPenguin> mlmg317-himts, the clipboard is really designed as a temporary buffer for content transport, not as a long term storage space
[08:03] <Eivo> Hi, I hope I'm in the right place. I'm brand new to Ubuntu and I don't know if I did something wrong. I am receiving a message titles "Requires installation of untrusted packages" when I try to install anything from the Ubuntu Software Center. I haven't had this before and was wondering how I could fix it.
[08:03] <qwebirc44173> mlmg317-himts: I know it's in memory RAM... lol
[08:03] <qwebirc44173> Eivo: what are you trying to install?
[08:04] <qwebirc44173> Eivo: it seems you changed the repositories
[08:04] <mlmg317-himts> DaPenguin: Right - that would make sense ...  I just wondered if Ubuntu/Linux has a function like this - because Windows prompts you asking whether or not you want to remove all contents from the Clipboard ...
[08:04] <Eivo> Well I tried several things, some games but currently Stellarium.
[08:04] <Ali_ix> hi, i am having some trouble with my onoard intel x4500 vga and new kernels, system crashes during startup right after resolution changes (modesetting or plymouth) and nothing works anymore (mouse, keyboard, services) and screens starts flicking random colored lines or spots. I cant boot with any kernel newer than 2.6.31
[08:04] <ayecee> mlmg317-himts: i, for one, have nt seen that prompt in windows.
[08:04] <mlmg317-himts> qwebirc44173: Yeah - you're right.  I do love Linux for that reason, that it runs so efficiently ...
[08:04] <DaPenguin> mlmg317-himts, yeah, not that I know of. that function requires a cache of the clipboard to be made
[08:05] <mithran>  qwebirc44173: any other channel, that would be more appropriate?
[08:05] <qwebirc44173> mithran: try #ubuntu-server
[08:05] <mlmg317-himts> ayecee: Hmm.  Really?  Because I have.  Maybe I'm just describing it wrong.  DaPenguin describes it when with the term "cache".
[08:05] <qwebirc44173> archlinux
[08:05] <qwebirc44173> etc
[08:05] <DaPenguin> mlmg317-himts, there might be an improved clipboard app out there somewhere, but default install doesn't have it
[08:05] <Eivo> Not sure how I would have changed them.
[08:06] <ayecee> mlmg317-himts: it may be something seen in a particular application.
[08:06] <mlmg317-himts> DaPenguin: Yeah.  Could be.  OK - not that big of a deal.  Just wondered.  I'll just have to retype it ...
[08:06] <mlmg317-himts> DaPenguin: Thanks!
[08:06] <DaPenguin> np
[08:06] <qwebirc44173> tired of helping and not get helped
[08:06] <qwebirc44173> ...
[08:07] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: QQ more
[08:07] <icedtea> qwebirc44173: it could just be no one in the room knows the answer
[08:08] <Curly_Q> I would like to show this website and could anyone here offer any advice on a good WYSIWYG on this page? http://www.junauza.com/2008/09/5-best-html-editors-for-linux.html
[08:08] <qwebirc44173> icedtea: or are too lazy to give some tips
[08:08] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: or are tired of a whiny bitch whining about it.
[08:09] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, u know, insulting people? not the best idea if you want help...
[08:09] <qwebirc44173> !language | ayecee
[08:09] <ayecee> told
[08:09] <alkisg> Suppose I boot 30 clients behind NAT, and all of them run `ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com` simultaneously during their boot process. Is there a chance that ntp.ubuntu.com will consider that a DoS attack, and only respond to 1 client instead of all the 30 clients?
[08:09] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: when did I unsult?
[08:09] <qwebirc44173> I just GOT INSULTED
[08:09] <dharma> qwebird44173: i'm getting errors now with nautilus
[08:09] <qwebirc44173> ayecee called me bitch
[08:10] <ayecee> alkisg: yes, though it would be very rude to set up a network that way.
[08:10] <dharma> qwebirc44173: "WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported
[08:10] <dharma> "
[08:10] <alkisg> ayecee: rude? how? It's part of the standard ubuntu booting process, I didn't do any special configuration
[08:10] <qwebirc44173> dharma: cant help you im too busy defending myself  in #ubuntu
[08:10] <dharma> qwebirc44173: np
[08:10] <dharma> i'm hopeless
[08:10] <ayecee> alkisg: oh, nevermind. ntp.ubuntu.com is probably a round robin configuration.
[08:11] <ayecee> alkisg: i was imagining some other ntp server.
[08:11] <alkisg> ayecee: ok, thank you, so I hope this isn't why I'm not getting time sync, looking elsewhere...
[08:11] <kofi> alkisg: as is pool.ntp.org
[08:11] <alkisg> kofi: thanks
[08:11] <dharma> qwebird44173, madprops, icedtea: thank you all, i need to eat and come back to this later
[08:11] <ferengee> qwebirc44173, what is your question?
[08:12] <noob>  qwebird44173 what is your q?
[08:12] <qwebirc44173> it's a problem not a question
[08:12] <kofi> Maybe I could ask a stupid question about access rights: I want a user to have access to specific apache logs. But just get access denied
[08:12] <ayecee> there is no q, qwebirc44173 is just tired of not getting help after helping so much
[08:12] <qwebirc44173> after sudo poweroff fans keep spinning
[08:13] <qwebirc44173> !ot | ayecee
[08:13] <qwebirc44173> or !guidelines
[08:13] <qwebirc44173> :)
[08:13] <ayecee> kofi: add the user to the group that owns the apache logs, perhaps
[08:14] <kofi> I created a group 'foo' whose member are foobar and www-data.
[08:14] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: acpi bug, probably depends on your specific hardware. though there may be a fix in newer kernels. it's unlikely.
[08:14] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, so the full power off command isn't getting sent to the mobo. probably either a kernel option or just a particularity of your hardware
[08:14] <ayecee> kofi: is www-data a user or a group?
[08:14] <Gnea> alkisg: you could also just install ntpd on your bootserver and have them all point to that
[08:15] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: if I press power button one time while in BIOS everything shuts down
[08:15] <qwebirc44173> kernel bug?
[08:15] <kofi> ayecee: www-data normally is the user or group apache runs under?
[08:15] <mobius2> Stupendoussteve,  are you certain about those instructions?  I followed them carefully,  and also made certain that the aiptek-input package was installed first....  but I still get a "no sane response"  when I do  dmesg   just checking and thanks for the input
[08:15] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, probably, or just the way the default kernel is built
[08:15] <ayecee> kofi: are the log files owned by foo, or are they owned by www-data?
[08:15] <alkisg> Gnea: good idea, will probably do that in the future
[08:16] <Gnea> alkisg: then just have the bootserver keep in sync with pool.ntp.org now and then
[08:16] <alkisg> Got it
[08:16] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, think of it this way, you ever had a universal remote that didn't work your tv all the way? same thing here
[08:16] <Gnea> alkisg: cheers
[08:16] <qwebirc44173> no I never had one
[08:17] <kofi> ayecee: ATM they are even owned by the user himself and the group foo
[08:17] <ferengee> qwebirc44173, what is your mobo type
[08:17] <ferengee> qwebirc44173, and do u use apm or acpi
[08:17] <qwebirc44173> ferengee: old one > amd pc chips m810lmr aka lr-h
[08:17] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, in short, google your motherboard and see if #1 it's a known problem and #2 if there's a known fix
[08:17] <qwebirc44173> ferengee: tried to disable it and enale
[08:18] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: already did lol
[08:18] <ferengee> qwebirc44173, do you have the apm module loaded
[08:18] <qwebirc44173> i will try another distro
[08:18] <ayecee> kofi: the user himself is part of group foo, and he still gets access enied?
[08:18] <qwebirc44173> ferengee: do you want to check the manual?
[08:18] <qwebirc44173> i can give the pdf link
[08:18] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: sure, another distro always solves the problem
[08:18] <qwebirc44173> ayecee: stop with irony
[08:19] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, APM support probably isn't included in the default -generic kernel
[08:19] <kofi> ayecee: foo:x:1003:www-data,fooBar
[08:19] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: not in PAE also
[08:19] <DaPenguin> err, for your mobo anyway
[08:19] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, you might need to reroll your own kernel then
[08:19] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: it's not too late to try another distro, right now.
[08:20] <ferengee> qwebirc44173, this mobo should support acpi, the current default. But acpi is known to be buggy
[08:20] <qwebirc44173> ayecee: it's not too late to stop hilighting me
[08:20] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: Not certain at all. Are you stuck at Karmic or can you use a newer version? That may help with some issues
[08:20] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, or the appropriate modules may even be modprobe-able
[08:20] <ayecee> kofi: where is that from?
[08:20] <qwebirc44173> hm
[08:21] <ayecee> kofi: if that's from /etc/passwd, it's broken. a user can only have one promary group, not two.
[08:21] <ayecee> kofi: additional groups would come via /etc/groups
[08:21] <Stupendoussteve> mobius2: Not that it would necessarily, but it looks like later versions use that completely new way of configuring it
[08:22] <kofi> no /etc/group
[08:22] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: what other distributions have you considered?
[08:22] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, ubuntu treats the kernel a little different than most distros, it uses a barebones init image and modprobes literally EVERYTHING
[08:23] <ayecee> kofi: has foo logged out and logged in again since the change?
[08:24] <kofi> jep, have done the chown several times as root then 'su foo' and exit serveral times
[08:25] <kofi> Here is a paste of how I did: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/363683/
[08:26] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: must be power saving stuff need to know how to disable it completly
[08:27] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, have you tried booting without acpi?
[08:27] <ayecee> kofi: what is remirpm?
[08:27] <qwebirc44173> manual of the motherboard http://www.pcchipsusa.com/PCCWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=175&DetailName=Manual&DetailDesc=M810%20%20%28V7.1%29&CategoryID=1&MenuID=82&LanID=2
[08:27] <kofi> should have been written foorpm ;)
[08:27] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: it would be more helpful to have the model of the motherboard.
[08:28] <ayecee> kofi: I guess this is not a paste of the actual commands used then
[08:28] <qwebirc44173> ayecee: already told. scroll up
[08:28] <qwebirc44173> ayecee: you are just trying to get a conflict not helping at all
[08:28] <kofi> I replaced remi -> foo
[08:28] <kofi> Otherwise exactly the commands used
[08:29] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: scrolling is hard on my finger. maybe you could just provide the model number for people who are here now instead of then.
[08:29] <qwebirc44173> ayecee: you were he already
[08:29] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: my client was here already. I was killing virtual people.
[08:29] <qwebirc44173> ...
[08:29]  * qwebirc44173 misses /ignore in webchat
[08:30] <ayecee> guess you'll have to just do it in your head.
[08:30] <qwebirc44173> ./J ubuntu-ops
[08:30] <ayecee> it's hard work, i know.
[08:30] <DaPenguin> oh god, it's in a .doc format, excellent linux support here </sarcasm>
[08:31] <Technicus> In the repositiory, what are linux-backports-modules-* for?
[08:31] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, hmm, onboard agp graphics chipset, might be part of the problem...
[08:31] <ayecee> Technicus: in the case of the wireless ones, they're backports of the wireless modules from later kernel trees. is that what you mean?
[08:33] <JamesN_> hi how do i install the php=gd package
[08:33] <JamesN_> i already have php5 installed
[08:33] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: how do you explain the fact that power button shuts everything down in BIOS but not in the OS? must be a software problem
[08:33] <ayecee> JamesN_: is that the correct package name?
[08:33] <mehdi> can i ask here about H.D.D?
[08:34] <Technicus> ayecee: I am more interested in *-alsa-*, because I am trying to use a usb audio interface that is not working well on Mavric but worked just fine on Lucid.  It was suggested that I try a the kernel from Lucid on the Mavric install.  I am not sure about this because whenever I mess with the kernel it usually ends in catastrophic failure.
[08:34] <JamesN_> ayecee: php gd
[08:34] <JamesN_> ayecee: i dunno
[08:34] <kofi> qwebirc44173: It can also be a problem with your power supply
[08:34] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, what do you mean, power button is suspending the os?
[08:34] <ohsix> .
[08:34] <ayecee> JamesN_: apt-get install php5-gd
[08:34] <ohsix> kofi: power buttons in the acpi era aren't directly connected to the power supply
[08:34] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: no. when im in bios i press power button and computer shuts down completely
[08:35] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: when i try to shutdown from OS it does not
[08:35] <ayecee> Technicus: using the backports sounds like a good interim step in trying to get it to work then.
[08:35] <kofi> ohsix: I know but I had a Windows PC (where ACPI is less troubel, *cough* and fans just continued working after poweroff)
[08:35] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, does the actual power button power down the machine?
[08:35] <ohsix> thats nice
[08:35] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: that does seem like a software problem. maybe if we had the motherboard model, we could find the bug report on which that had been filed.
[08:35] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: yes, it does but after X seconds
[08:36] <daniel> DaPenguin: Yes, it obviously does - has to be a software problem.
[08:36] <JamesN_> !info php5-gd
[08:36] <qwebirc44173> ayecee: for the second time: amd pc chips m810lmr
[08:36] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: that is the first time for me. let's see what comes up.
[08:37] <daniel> I was thinking that it might be a problem with the shutdown command that somehow "only" leads to a suspend/sleep mode, not to a real shutdown
[08:37] <Technicus> ayecee: I have been at this for days, me an another character, who also has the same device who is going through the same senerio . . . he opted to go back to Lucid, I however did not do a dual install, and have no Lucid to go back to & don't feel like installing Ubuntu again . . .
[08:37] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, daniel that's what i'm thinking too
[08:37] <Technicus> . . . but if it comes to it I will.
[08:37] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: thats why I asked how to turn off power saving in UBuntu
[08:37] <qwebirc44173> using the terminal.
[08:38] <daniel> I've had entire boot manage files screwed up immediately after a fresh install, so maybe something went wrong.
[08:38] <Kimmen> qwebirc44173: have you tried RSEIUB and see if it reboots?
[08:38] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, you have to boot with the noacpi option
[08:38] <Technicus> So anyway, what do backports do?
[08:38] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: in grub?
[08:38] <Kimmen> or was it REISUB? =S
[08:39] <qwebirc44173> reisub i think
[08:39] <qwebirc44173> alt+print then reisub right
[08:39] <ayecee> Technicus: backports are copies of the source from later versions of the kernel into earlier versions of the kernel.
[08:39] <DaPenguin> yeah, you can put the option in /etc/defaults/grub, and then sudo update-grub and then reboot
[08:39] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: already did that
[08:39] <qwebirc44173> :)
[08:39] <qwebirc44173> let me paste
[08:39] <Kimmen> Technicus: backports uses user compiled packages, i.e. fif you compiled alsa for one kernel than install new kernel, alsa backport installs the previously compiled alsa driver for the new kernel
[08:39] <qwebirc44173> [07:01] <qwebirc44173> How can I use "pci=noacpi" option in Grub?
[08:40] <qwebirc44173> [07:02] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc44173: add it next to: quiet splash  in /etc/default/grub   then run:   sudo update-grub
[08:40] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, don't think you even need the pci= option for that
[08:40] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: just "acpi" ?
[08:40] <qwebirc44173> oops
[08:40] <qwebirc44173> no acpi
[08:40] <qwebirc44173> noacpi?
[08:41] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: maybe acpi=off
[08:42] <ayecee> noapic would be something different
[08:42] <Technicus> Kimmen: ayecee: That is what I was kind of thinking, but I just don't entirely understand . . . after the number of times I tryed modifying kernels and completely hosing my system I want to be sure about what I am doing.  Are either of you able to direct me to a useful wiki about this?
[08:43] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, do you have the kbd power on/off  jumper shorted?
[08:43] <ayecee> qwebirc44173: however, I haven't found a report of that problem with a solution, I'm afraid.
[08:44] <Blue1> !unity
[08:44] <ayecee> Technicus: I'm not sure what you're asking. Backports allow you to use newer code without using a newer kernel.
[08:44] <ohsix> Kimmen: you mentioned the existing backport packages right
[08:45] <Kimmen> yup
[08:45] <Technicus> ayecee: AHH, I was thinking it was a newer kernel with older modules.
[08:46] <Technicus> ayecee: I'm just not sure what I'n doing anymore.
[08:46] <Kimmen> Technicus: ohsix: ayecee: it's both, correct me if I'm wrong but backports repo is for new code, backport packages are what I was talking about?
[08:46]  * sky1 is looking for an user which has experience with the tracking issue software Request Tracker  /msg me
[08:46]  * Technicus decides to take a break.
[08:47] <kelvinella> hi what is localStorage files?
[08:47] <kelvinella> i am using ubuntu 8.04 dell version, and recently my chrome start giving me this error
[08:48] <ayecee> Kimmen: we're referring to backports packages
[08:48] <kelvinella> If you see this message every time you start AdBlock, please make sure you are not using a file cleaner that also cleans 'localStorage' files.
[08:49] <kelvinella> how to fix it?
[08:49] <ayecee> kelvinella: no idea. maybe the chrome adblock developer has a FAQ on this
[08:49] <Kimmen> ayecee: how to separate them from the user compiled packages that show up as backport packages?
[08:49] <ayecee> it's not related to the firefox adblock plugin.
[08:50] <kelvinella> ?
[08:50] <ayecee> kelvinella: the ? is to what?
[08:51] <ayecee> Kimmen: not sure. do you have a lot of ppa sources, or what?
[08:51] <solstice> hi .I thought alternate install cd was dropped. but I  still see it in the beta 1 list of CD !
[08:51] <ayecee> solstice: good!
[08:52] <Kimmen> no but when I had lucid and alsa 1.0.23 compiled from source I installed the alsa backport package for every new kernel, else I got no sound since it reverted to alsa 1.0.something
[08:52] <kelvinella> which extension is equivalent to adblock plus in ff for chrome?
[08:52] <solstice> not good! alternate was supposed to be merged into normal install cd.
[08:52] <Ors> Hi there, I am running Ubuntu Network and unable to switch off the microphone. Anyone could help?
[08:53] <kofi> Found out my problem: the folder for apache logs itself didn't allow any users outside adm group to list the folder
[08:53] <ayecee> Kimmen: I see we're no longer talking about backport packages.
[08:53] <Kimmen> kofi: that's standard
[08:53] <ayecee> kelvinella: the chrome adblock is the closest thing to adblock plus in ff, but it's not a related project.
[08:53] <kelvinella> what about adblock plus for chrome?
[08:53] <ayecee> solstice: source?
[08:54] <Kimmen> ayecee: probably just me that's confused =)
[08:54] <ayecee> kelvinella: there is none.
[08:54] <kofi> Kimmen: Exactly but I wanted to have one user without adm membership to have access to some of the logs
[08:54] <kelvinella> it is by wladimir palant
[08:54] <kelvinella> same author for adblock plus in ff
[08:54] <ayecee> kelvinella: it may be surprising to realize that firefox plugins don't work in chrome, and vice versa
[08:55] <kelvinella> so which adblock for chrome should i choose there are many
[08:55] <solstice> ayecee: cnat' remember where i read that
[08:55] <ayecee> solstice: oh ok
[08:56] <qwebirc44173> [08:43] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, do you have the kbd power on/off  jumper shorted?
[08:56] <qwebirc44173> sry did not understand
[08:56] <solstice> may be it's for next release
[08:56] <solstice> ayecee: ^
[08:56] <ayecee> kelvinella: as chrome is not part of the official ubuntu 10.10 install, it's hard to say.
[08:56] <ayecee> solstice: could be
[08:57] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, oh ok, it's a jumper switch on the mobo, jumper JP1 in reference to the manual. was asking if you had it jumpered to on or off.
[08:57] <ayecee> kelvinella: there may be a chrome-specific irc channel that can provide more detailed help on this
[08:57] <MK`> What is the minimum size for an ubuntu installation again?
[08:57] <MK`> was it 10, 15, or 20 GB?
[08:57] <Kimmen> MK`: far less
[08:58] <kelvinella> dont know why ff is running slower than chrome in my dell mini9 netbook running dell ubuntu 8.04
[08:58] <ayecee> 15 gb of space is recommended: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[08:58] <ohsix> way way way way less
[08:58] <kelvinella> ff adblock is good but the browser is slow
[08:59] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: is ON short or open?
[08:59] <qwebirc44173> :p
[08:59] <kelvinella> chrome is fast browsing webpage but many ads
[08:59] <MK`> it's an old XP computer, an 80 GB harddrive, of which only about 17 is free heh
[08:59] <qwebirc44173> kelvinella: there is adblock for chrome.
[08:59] <Kimmen> that's plenty
[08:59] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, it's actually a 3 position swich. short 1-2 it enables it, 2-3 it disables it
[09:00] <MK`> Last time I defragged there were files left at the end of the drive. Will it move them when I install it over there?
[09:00] <kelvinella> the adblock for chrome wont memorize the setting
[09:00] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, no idea what completely open would do
[09:00] <kelvinella> i have to re-subscript to fanboy list when i open browser
[09:01] <ayecee> kelvinella: it does not look like the adblock for chrome is by wladimir palent
[09:01] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: oh you mean the keyboard switch..
[09:01] <qwebirc44173> it's off
[09:01] <qwebirc44173> in motherboard and bios
[09:01] <oCean> kelvinella: chrome support @ http://www.google.com/support/chrome/
[09:01] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: "Jumper JP1: Keyboard Power On Selector If you enable the keyboard power on feature, you can use hot keys on your keyboard as a power on/off switch for the system."
[09:02] <ayecee> kelvinella: http://code.google.com/p/adblockforchrome/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#Are_you_the_same_guys_that_made_Adblock_Plus_for_Firefox?
[09:02] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, wonder if turning that on would help. just a thought
[09:03] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: I could try and then shutdown using the shortcut?
[09:03] <qwebirc44173> lol :p
[09:05] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, you may also consider disabling acpi/apm in the bios
[09:05] <qwebirc44173> already tried
[09:05] <qwebirc44173> :(
[09:05] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: so in grub I should use acpi=off?
[09:06] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, either that or just noacpi. think acpi=off is deprecated but still supported
[09:06] <bladedu> hello!
[09:09] <ZanQdo> hi im having problems booting ubuntu 10.10 from usb drive
[09:09] <ZanQdo> tried with usb-creator
[09:09] <kelvinella> the ABP works fine in chrome now
[09:09] <kelvinella> thx guys
[09:10] <ZanQdo> usb-creator + ui hack = failed
[09:10] <qwebirc44173> DaPenguin: when i poweroff i hear a click
[09:10] <ZanQdo> unetbootin = failed
[09:10] <qwebirc44173> hdd maybe
[09:10] <ZanQdo> unetbootin + ui edit also failed
[09:10] <ljsoftnet> is it safe to run Gnome 3 from a usb stick? when i remove the stick, does it go back to the previous desktop?
[09:10] <ZanQdo> same Boot error
[09:10] <silvery> Hi. How can I install grub to /boot/grub? I used Ubuntu 10.10 and did sudo grub install /dev/sdb (it's external disk) and as result system installed grub in /grub instead of /boot/grub. Now it returns "grub rescue>" when I'm trying to boot from that HDD.
[09:10] <DaPenguin> qwebirc44173, probably. that or the power supply
[09:10] <qwebirc44173> silvery: you want this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT
[09:11] <qwebirc44173> just follow it it's easy
[09:14] <silvery> qwebirc44173 : thanks a lot
[09:16] <kelvinella> whats new in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[09:17] <ayecee> kelvinella: the people in #ubuntu+1 will be happy to tell you about it
[09:18] <qwebirc44173> kelvinella: and watch videos on youtube about natty :)
[09:18] <qwebirc44173> google etc
[09:18] <kelvinella> qwebirc44173, ok
[09:20] <DaPenguin> one of 3 things i don't like about buntu, major upgrade cycle vs simple rolling upgrades
[09:21] <ljsoftnet> is it safe to run Gnome 3 from a usb stick? when i remove the stick, does it go back to the previous desktop?
[09:24] <bazz> i've added a "prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; to my dhclient.conf file, but my resolv.conf never actually gets updated.  closest bug report i can find is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/260060   anyone know what this might be and/or a workaround?
[09:24] <et_> How do I disable the Session Chooser bar during login?
[09:24] <bazz> also not sure why that bug was set to Won't Fix without comment
[09:25] <Stava> Will --encrypt-home work with useradd?
[09:25] <ikonia> Stava: don't think so
[09:30] <Cursarion> how long are ubuntu releases supported generally?
[09:31] <wairu> tem algum brazuc ai?
[09:31] <Poisonfibre> till Africa is forgotten =s
[09:31] <DaPenguin> Cursarion, officially it's until the next release iirc, except for the LTS versions
[09:34] <Starminn> If I'm using a PAE kernel, do I still need the regular kernel for it to work?
[09:34] <Cursarion> DaPenguin: meaning? Fedora's pace is annoyingly fast (6 months until new major version is released, 12 months until stuff won't update etc. in the old version), is Ubuntu faster?
[09:35] <ikonia> Cursarion: they are both rolling 6 month distros
[09:35] <DaPenguin> Cursarion, 6 month release cycle
[09:35] <ikonia> actually ubuntu isn't a "rolling" distro, sorry, bad wording
[09:35] <ikonia> they both have a 6month release cycle
[09:35] <DaPenguin> usually april and october
[09:35] <apctr> hello all i forgot my root password, so how can i reset it?
[09:35] <ikonia> apctr: ubuntu does not have a root password
[09:36] <ikonia> apctr: you use sudo
[09:36] <Cursarion> is software updateable for older Ubuntus through repos?
[09:36] <ikonia> Cursarion: if an updated package is available, sure, but that very rarley happens
[09:36] <Cursarion> so all the repos have specific packages for specific OS versions?
[09:36] <ikonia> Cursarion: correct
[09:37] <apctr> ikonia: when i use sudo than it give the error"ser user1 is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/gedit gaurav.c' as root on uce-desktop."
[09:37] <DaPenguin> Cursarion, if you look at sources.list you'll see version info after the url
[09:37] <ikonia> apctr: type "id" into a terminal and show me what it says
[09:37] <Cursarion> I wonder what'd suit me then
[09:37] <lloowen> Hello all! Can anyone recommend a DVD player application that just works out of the box on Ubuntu! I have tried a number of DVD's I have purchased from the shops, and I can't get them to play using kaffeine, vlc, dragon player, kplayer.
[09:37] <ikonia> !dvd | lloowen
[09:38] <apctr> ikonia: it gives:"uid=1001(user1) gid=1001(user1) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),1001(user1)"
[09:38] <ikonia> apctr: ok, so this is on the amazon cloud I'm guessing ?
[09:38] <Cursarion> I'd like a stable and working OS with good support & functionality and only basic GUI, no eye candy
[09:38] <ikonia> Cursarion: ubuntu ticks that box
[09:38] <ikonia> Cursarion: try xubuntu for a lower/cut down gui
[09:38] <apctr> ikonia: no it ios ubuntu 10.04 version
[09:39] <Cursarion> not really if I can't update software after a year
[09:39] <DaPenguin> Cursarion, you can use any gui you want under buntu
[09:39] <ikonia> ios ubuntu ?
[09:39] <ikonia> apctr: what is ios ubuntu
[09:39] <Cursarion> without upgrading whole OS
[09:39] <apctr> ikonia: sorry it is ubuntu 10.04
[09:39] <ikonia> Cursarion: ubuntu ticks that box
[09:39] <ikonia> !info ubuntu-uce
[09:39] <ikonia> apctr: no problem
[09:40] <DaPenguin> Cursarion, plus updating isn't as bad as everyone seems to think
[09:40] <ikonia> apctr: that user is not in the "admin" group, that means it has no sudo or "root" access
[09:40] <Cursarion> ikonia: you just said it doesn't?
[09:40] <Cursarion> [11:36:15] < Cursarion> is software updateable for older Ubuntus through repos?
[09:40] <Cursarion> [11:36:32] < ikonia> Cursarion: if an updated package is available, sure, but that very rarley happens
[09:40] <ikonia> Cursarion: updates to newer versions rarley happens, but you said you wanted stable/working desktop with a minimal gui
[09:40] <ikonia> Cursarion: you didn't say you wanted rolling updates of bleeding edge software versions
[09:41] <Cursarion> oh well, not exactly bleeding edge
[09:41] <apctr> ikonia: i have to install a package so how can i do this? I have tar.gz source code but it is giving permisiion denied
[09:41] <Cursarion> working would suffice
[09:41] <ikonia> apctr: what do you want to install (what software)
[09:41] <Cursarion> all this started when VLC pissed me off with its stupid memory leaks
[09:41] <ikonia> Cursarion: ok, well "working" ubuntu ticks that box
[09:41] <ikonia> Cursarion: vlc is the same product in all distros, if there is a problem with VLC as an application, it will be present in most distros
[09:42] <Cursarion> yes, and then I need to compile it myself
[09:42] <ikonia> Cursarion: that is a very very bad idea
[09:43] <Cursarion> I can imagine
[09:43] <mbrochh> is there a way to clear all output in the terminal?
[09:43] <mbrochh> so that i cannot even scroll back any more?
[09:43] <ikonia> mbrochh: clear
[09:43] <Cursarion> so it's either I upgrade OS or live with the memory leaking VLC
[09:43] <mbrochh> ikonia, nope, that still allows me to scroll back
[09:44] <ikonia> mbrochh: clear the terminal buffer then, normally in the terminal preferences or settings
[09:44] <ikonia> Cursarion: well, it depends, fixes and updates are provided in ubuntu and other distros, but version upgrades rarley
[09:44] <ikonia> Cursarion: bugs / issues do get fixed
[09:44] <mbrochh> ikonia, many thanks
[09:44] <Cursarion> not in Fedora apparently :/
[09:45] <ikonia> Cursarion: they do, but that's not something this channel can help/deal with
[09:45] <Cursarion> well I just asked there
[09:45] <Cursarion> and yes
[09:45] <Cursarion> maybe I should switch OS
[09:45] <Cursarion> thanks for your help
[09:45] <ikonia> no problem
[09:46] <ikonia> Cursarion: keep in mind you'll have the same issues with major version updates in ubuntu as you do in fedora though
[09:48] <Cursarion> yep. I'll mainly consider a distribution with slower pace
[09:48] <Starminn> ikonia: How long do you suggest people wait before upgrading to the official releases of new versiosn of Ubuntu (with regards to bug fixes, etc.). For example, how long should people have waited between 10.04->10.10, and likewise between 10.10->11.04?
[09:49] <ruan> yeah, im not upgrading if 11.04 is unstable
[09:50] <dare> ej
[09:51] <ikonia> Starminn: release day is fine, the only problem with doing it on release day is the repos are slow as people with little reason feel the need to have the bigger version numbers for no reason
[09:51] <ikonia> Starminn: any day after release day is fine
[09:52] <ruan> you can just switch mirrors for that
[09:52] <ikonia> ruan: normally most mirrors are swamped
[09:52] <Starminn> ikonia: I just recall reading a lot about how Maverick apparently had a lot of bugs and wasn't considered "stable" by many users until a month or two after. Does this happen with all versions (i.e. Whiney people), or what?
[09:52] <ikonia> the mirrors are swamped before days as foolish people constantly try to hit them to see when the iso's are up
[09:52] <ruan> hmm, i'll see
[09:53] <ikonia> Starminn: that's just users talking, if it's not stable, it doesn't get released
[09:53] <ruan> since my location isn't so linux popular, but it has 5 mirrors
[09:53] <Starminn> ikonia: Thought as much.
[09:53] <Starminn> ikonia: How long do you, personally, wait?
[09:53] <ikonia> Starminn: if a user has a problem, eg: nvidia card doesn't work, they start ranting that it's unstable,
[09:53] <ikonia> Starminn: I upgrade when I have a reason or need to, I keep a current machine for development/bugs/research but I'm not in a rush on release day to get that as I normally know what's there having followed the development
[09:55] <Starminn> ikonia: Are there really any perks to upgrading? I mean, for example, I've tested out the Alphas, etc., so I, like you, know what's there, but is there any real perk to getting the 'latest and greatest' sooner? Especially when other versions have a fairly decent EOLs?
[09:57] <ikonia> Starminn: that's a personal decision for you, if you want/need something thats in the later version, then that is your benifit, if not, no
[09:57] <Starminn> ikonia: Sounds reasonable enough.
[09:58] <userdel> i just created a folder in sd card 8GB and transferred all jpg files into that with mv command . i see that all files have become 0KB.what should i do now
[09:58] <Starminn> Update Manager just informed me it wants to isntall a bunch of "libqt4-<specificname>" stuff. Isn't QT4 = KDE4?
[09:59] <davetarmac> Not sure if this is the right place, but if anyone can help, please do - seem to be getting ignored in the other channels
[09:59] <davetarmac> Got a Bash problem on Cygwin
[09:59] <ikonia> Starminn: it's the engine behind QT, but it's used for other stuff too
[09:59] <ikonia> davetarmac: is it an ubuntu question ?
[09:59] <ikonia> davetarmac: nope, nothing to do with ubuntu, so try #bash or #cygwin
[10:00] <ruan> !info libqt4-core
[10:00] <davetarmac> ikonia: tried both of those channels - as I said, ignored
[10:00] <ikonia> davetarmac: sorry, wait for them to get back to you
[10:00] <davetarmac> ok ikonia thanks anyway
[10:00] <ubuntu> hej
[10:00] <ubuntu> bry
[10:00] <Starminn> ruan: Thanks.
[10:01] <ruan> Starminn: kde installs qt4
[10:01] <userdel> can anyone help me
[10:02] <Starminn> ruan:  So GNOME doesn't need it. (Aside from any KDE-based apps)
[10:02] <ruan> Starminn: nope, APT suggested i autoremove it after removing KDE
[10:02] <Starminn> ruan: I removed KDE a few days ago. ;) Thought it was a bit odd. I *thought* I deleted most of it.
[10:03] <ikonia> Starminn: it is used for other things non-kde too,
[10:04] <Starminn> ikonia: Like what?
[10:04] <ruan> Starminn: an application that is created with/needing qt4
[10:04] <ikonia> Starminn: can't think off the top of me head, some music players use it I believe, parts of MythTV like it for display, but I'm not sure if that's linked to KDE
[10:05] <Starminn> ikonia ruan: Ah. So, again, just apps that were made with KDE. For example, KSnake or KBounce in the repos. Right?
[10:07] <ruan> Starminn: it could include some apps that aren't made with kde, but i havent found any yet
[10:07] <ikonia> Starminn: not all QT apps are kde
[10:07] <ikonia> but it's a small list
[10:07] <Starminn> ikonia ruan: Ah. Gotcha. So QT != KDE, but KDE == QT right?
[10:07] <ikonia> Starminn: pretty much
[10:07] <ruan> Starminn: yeah
[10:07] <Starminn> Got it.
[10:09] <userdel> can anyone help me
[10:09] <ikonia> userdel: with what ?
[10:10] <eoss> guys, just read on google , ubuntu dev admitted helping nsa plant backdoor
[10:10] <eoss> in ubuntu
[10:10] <userdel> ikonia : i just created a dir in a sd card and moved all jpg files from one of its folders to this dir. they all have become 0KB. i have issued only 2 commands mkdir and mv.  its filesystem is msdos
[10:11] <Kimmen> eoss: haven't you heard that nsa has a backdoor into every windows os? =P
[10:11] <userdel> ikonia: the photos are very important
[10:11] <eoss> well now ubuntu has backdoor
[10:11] <ikonia> eoss: report a security bug as urgent then
[10:11] <ikonia> eoss: launchpad.net
[10:11] <eoss> APRIL FOOLS
[10:12] <eoss> harharhar
[10:12] <DrkShadow> How can I make kernel message not print to the damn console? I get a USB error 4 times a second and it really makes it unusable. Under any other linux distro, I'd switch to an alternative tty, but nooo...
[10:12] <Kimmen> oh noez we all fell for it hard
[10:12] <ikonia> eoss: ok please don't waste time with pointless aprilfools stuff
[10:12] <bastidrazor> eoss: you seem to be the only fool.
[10:12] <eoss> umad?
[10:12] <eoss> its troll day son
[10:12] <eoss> deal with it
[10:12] <ferengee> userdel, i suggest photorec
[10:12] <ferengee> userdel, and do not save anything on that disk
[10:13] <ferengee> userdel photorec is in the testdisk package
[10:13] <userdel> ferengee : please tell me complete  procedure . i have installed testdisk
[10:14] <qwebirc44173> output of /sys/power/disk is test testproc [shutdown] reboot      Is this the reason I cant shutdown the system properly?
[10:14] <ferengee> userdel, have you mounted the sd card? if so umount it
[10:15] <userdel> ferengee: ok then.
[10:15] <ferengee> userdel, become root
[10:15] <ferengee> userdel, start photorec
[10:16] <ferengee> userdel, select the correct device for the sd card and hit proceed
[10:16] <userdel> ferengee: ok
[10:16] <userdel> ferengee: intel pc partition?
[10:16] <ferengee> userdel, do you use the whole device or a partition on the disk
[10:17] <morgan> anyone got a source for good dual booting info. Building a HTPC and I want a windows and 2 linux installs on it.. Just looking for something definitive
[10:17] <userdel> ferengee: i think there is no partition. should i choose none?
[10:17] <ferengee> userdel, yes
[10:17] <userdel> ferengee: ok
[10:18] <ferengee> userdel, choose the 'other' filesystem type
[10:18] <ikonia> morgan: 2 linux installs....Hmmmm with the current grub2 layout, I don't believe that is a wise move
[10:18] <ferengee> userdel, the one for fat etc
[10:18] <userdel> ferengee: ok. done .should i start recovery. where will it recover and store
[10:18] <c4pt> can anyone tell me offhand what deb package is used in question with visual effects in the System>Apperance panel ?     http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Desktop_Visual_Effects
[10:18] <ferengee> userdel, choose a location that has enough free space
[10:19] <c4pt> << messed up X pretty bad
[10:19] <ferengee> usedel, know that all the deleted file space could be used by recovered files
[10:19] <coz_>   good day all
[10:19] <ferengee> userdel, so if you have a sd card of 4GB then you might need 4GB free to restore
[10:19] <^Phantom^> why did they cancel any future ubuntu development?
[10:20] <Starminn> I pop a CD in, I am unable to read it, but as soon as I eject it it's fine and I can view the contents. (Only this CD, no others)
[10:20] <coz_> ^Phantom^,  for what?
[10:20] <ferengee> userdel, Photorec will ask you where to save the recovered files
[10:20] <userdel> ferengee: ok.i have started the recovery. i have 8GB  sd card and similar free memoryno problems for that.
[10:20] <c4pt> ??
[10:20] <ikonia> Starminn: how do you know it's fine after you eject it
[10:21] <morgan> ikonia - mostly it's so you always have access to ya cpu. when i crash my linux, my windows boot gets me outta the @$*#%..
[10:21] <ferengee> userdel, good luck then. Photorec will create multiple recup_dir folders in which you can find (partially) recoverd files
[10:21] <morgan> hence my 2nd linux install will always get me outta the #$@%
[10:21] <ikonia> morgan: if you have to star out words, don't say them
[10:22] <morgan> sorry, its an aussie thing i guess
[10:22] <erUSUL> ^Phantom^: april's fool XXDD
[10:22] <Starminn> ikonia: Well, I'm putting music onto my computer, so it's an Audio CD. So in Nautilus it lists all your media (or I can browse to /media, either one), and it appears as "Audio Disc" but it doesn't appear to be mount. So I say to mount it, nothing happens. So I eject it (manually, from the tower), and once it comes out, I can browse the files.
[10:22] <^Phantom^> erUSUL, yep
[10:22] <ikonia> morgan: a dual boot with linux and windows if fine as windows doesn't care about grub, it gets more complext when you have 2 linux distros on there, that both want to modify grub, that's isolated to one distro
[10:22] <c4pt> bbiab
[10:22] <userdel> ferengee: ok. i am able to see some non zero jpg files. thanks a lot.
[10:22] <ferengee> userdel, np
[10:23] <userdel> ferengee: but how can it give such a heart attack
[10:23] <userdel> ferengee: how can mkdir and mv destroy data
[10:23] <morgan> ikonia - recently I killed gdm with xbmc-live - my bad. But none of my previous distros would boot from grub. Not a fan of windows, I just want a hardwired linux install that will save the day
[10:24] <ikonia> morgan: hardwired linux distro ?
[10:24] <ikonia> morgan: pretty much all distros boot with grub
[10:24] <ikonia> morgan: what areyou talking about
[10:24] <ferengee> userdel, it is probably a dead sector on your sdcard
[10:25] <ferengee> userdel or a bad umount
[10:26] <Curly_Q> Ikonia are you saying that all ISO files are GRUB installed?
[10:26] <morgan> ikonia  - sorry, i don't wanna dig for a live cd when I can have an alternate linux install on its own partition which will ALWAYS work as a backup
[10:26] <ikonia> Curly_Q: no, I'm saying that pretty much all linux distros install grub and boot from it as part of the install process
[10:26] <Starminn> ikonia: Aha! Now we're making progress! Here's the error: http://imagebin.org/146042
[10:26] <ferengee> userdel, on fat, the file allocation table contains all references to the file names. mv is writing in that table, as is creating a directory
[10:27] <ferengee> userdel, so the data stays on the same place, only the references are updated. But if the update of the fat fails, your files seem to be gone
[10:27] <ikonia> morgan: nothing wrong with a windows/linux dusl boot system, I just don't know what you mean by "hardwired linux distro"
[10:27] <Starminn> ikonia: He means on the HDD in a partition as opposed to a LiveCD
[10:28] <ikonia> ok, so that's simple, install windows, install a linux distro
[10:28] <morgan> ikonia - every update gives a new option on grub menu yes? but if I do something wrong, none of those options work. yeah, i wanna seperate install for backup. windows is only for windows progs. i hate it.
[10:28] <ikonia> morgan: no
[10:29] <ikonia> morgan: if you do something wrong, those options won't be affected, grub just boots the kernel, nothing more
[10:29] <Curly_Q> OK. I remember the old Loadlin installer.
[10:29] <morgan> ikonia - installed xbmc live (which uninstalled gdm), without windows to google the prob I would've bricked my computer. can't i have a failsafe install?
[10:30] <ikonia> morgan: what you've just said makes no sense
[10:30] <coz_> morgan,   why did you install xbmc live instead of just installing xbmc from the repository?
[10:30] <ikonia> morgan: you install xmbc live - it uninstalled gdm, that has nothing to do with your capabilities to boot windows from grub
[10:30] <userdel> ferengee: ok. so there is no problem with commands . that's reliable atleast . or should we always create a backup before doing it.
[10:31] <coz_> morgan,  do you get to a login prompt at all
[10:31] <morgan> ikonia - say i have no windows. and no live cd. can't i have a my working linux and a failsafe linux
[10:31] <ferengee> userdel, my personal policy is that disks cannot be trusted, so have your important stuff at atleast 2 places at all times
[10:31] <ikonia> morgan: that's not the way to deal with it,
[10:31] <Curly_Q> Ikonia, I remember the old Linux loader with Mount Point in text mode.
[10:32] <ikonia> morgan: a dual boot linux situation will make it more complex to manage and more likley to go wrong than just setting up your box and leaving it alone
[10:32] <ikonia> Curly_Q: you said that
[10:32] <userdel> ferengee: is there any way to restore with original names .
[10:32] <et_> I lost the session chooser bar in the login screen, wondering how to get it back.
[10:32] <morgan> fairy nuff. was just an idea i wanted to explore, i beleive ya (keep a live cd eh?) cheers
[10:32] <et_> and I don't seem to find the gdm config file anywhere.
[10:32] <ferengee> userdel, recently i recovered a 500GB usb disk for someone, but all filenames are missing. It isn't much fun to structure that data again from the meta data (using file, exif2 etc)
[10:33] <ferengee> userdel, since they are photograps asume
[10:33] <ferengee> userdel, they contain exif info
[10:33] <et_> I lost the session chooser bar in the login screen, wondering how to get it back. And my gdm config files are missing. Weird..
[10:34] <ferengee> userdel, i use exiv2 to obtain that information
[10:34] <ferengee> userdel, you might be able to reconstruct filenames using that info
[10:35] <morgan> ikonia - while i have a guru at hand. i accidentaly associated items in my places menu with a program.. don't know how to break that association?
[10:35] <userdel> ferengee:ok will try. thanks a lot for all the help.
[10:36] <tr3nton> does anyone know where I can find the md5 sum of natty beta 1? I been trying to create a usb startup disk, but it won't let me add the iso, so just want to check I've got the right file, without errors
[10:37] <bouldingue> il y a t il des francophones .
[10:38] <ylmfos> yourenme
[10:38] <bazhang> bouldingue, en #ubuntu-fr
[10:38] <bazhang> ylmfos, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[10:38] <sveinse> I have a USB serial adapter and whenever I want to use it, upowerd locks access to /dev/ttyUSB0. How can I prevent it? Why is upowerd doing that? (Im running lucid on amd64)
[10:38] <bouldingue> okay thank's
[10:38] <bouldingue> #ubuntu-fr
[10:39] <dare> join #gdku27
[10:40] <ferengee> userdel, as soon as you have all your data back, you could use the testdisk program to try to recreate a valid fat with filenames on your sdcard
[10:43] <Curly_Q> Ikonia I agree with you. Can you imagine you trying to remotely reboot a dual boot box?
[10:43] <ikonia> Curly_Q: I do it all the time
[10:43] <userdel> ferengee:not a bad idea. will try
[10:44] <Curly_Q> Ikonia, that is OK. But as you said there are complications involved. It is better to just leave the box alone.
[10:45] <Curly_Q> I like to dedicate Windows box for Windows and Linux for Linux. Spend a few buck and do it right.
[10:46] <Curly_Q> Ikonia, I use a separate Hard Drive for my SWAP. The box runs much faster.
[10:47] <woozly> which programm in ubuntu, allow to 'Search an app by typing from keyboard'
[10:47] <woozly> popuping little window on screen
[10:47] <woozly> while I typing a name.. it will auto-complete and run on Enter
[10:47] <dagon666> guys Im having problems booting from degraded raid array in ubuntu 10.10
[10:47] <dagon666> can anyone help
[10:48] <mustermann> Hi everyone, is there a quick way to shorten the directory path in the terminal?
[10:48] <coz_> dagon666,  I dont think i can,, i havent used raid since forever,,,if no one here can help,,it's possible that maybe someone in ##linux might be able to
[10:48] <Diverdude> do you guys run any kind of antivirus programs on your ubuntu machines?
[10:49] <Curly_Q> Woozly you can grep the application and enter in the terminal window the name of the application.
[10:49] <ikonia> Curly_Q: is there a reason you are telling me this information ?
[10:49] <coz_> Diverdude,  if you want one it is called  clamav   with clamtk  as the front end
[10:49] <Curly_Q> Ikonia, I was just talking with you.
[10:49] <ikonia> dagon666: what's up
[10:49] <mustermann> i mean the working directory currently displayed, can it be shortend?
[10:49] <qwebirc44173> can IRQ can cause shutdown problems?
[10:49] <Axlin> woozly: if i'm interpreting your question correctly, you could look at gnome-do, kupfer, synapse, or launchy (tha i know of)
[10:49] <woozly> Axlin, thank you
[10:49] <shuttle> hi, need help where i can find sth about saving ubuntu-os to partition
[10:50] <Diverdude> coz_, but is it necessary? I mean no viruses or malware or the like is written for linux anyway right?
[10:50] <dagon666> ikonia: my raid array is driving my crazy. I have bootdegraded=true, nevertheless it cannot boot and I land up in initramfs shell
[10:50] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173 yes it can if your BIOS settings are turned off. If IRQ in BIOS is shut off, yes.
[10:50] <Zealous> Do i need a firewall for linux?
[10:50] <dagon666> shuttle: what do you mean ?
[10:51] <coz_> Diverdude,  well not generally especially for a linux Desktop,, most of the liunux viruses are geared towards servers  as far as I know and  even my nephew got one on his linux server  and he is a window addict :)
[10:51] <Starminn> !firewall | Zealous
[10:51] <coz_> Diverdude,  it cant hurt for sure
[10:51] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA yes
[10:51] <coz_> Diverdude,  just done scan your windows installation with it or it will most likely render it un bootable :)
[10:51] <shuttle> dagon666: when ubuntu crashes i dont want to reinstall vpn and dont wanna set up firefox
[10:51] <Zealous> danka Starminn
[10:51] <Zealous> reading over it now
[10:52] <Starminn> Zealous: :) But basically, no. IT all comes straight out-of-the-box
[10:52] <dagon666> shuttle: do you want to make a complete partition image ?
[10:52] <Starminn> Zealous: Those links are for managing it. The defaults are usually fine.
[10:52] <dagon666> ikonia: can you help
[10:52] <shuttle> dagon666: i want to image my ubuntu-partition
[10:52] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173, I don't know what you have there as a system or the BIOS, but in general, if the BIOS has been tampered with, I personally go into the BIOS and reset it to factory settings and work from there. Make sure you set the Plug N Play settings. That makes a difference.
[10:53] <shuttle> dagon666: instead of reinstall lubuntu when it crashes i want to backup from image
[10:53] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: already did that
[10:53] <dagon666> shuttle: the easiest solution dd if=/dev/<your_part> of=<part_image_on different_part> bs=1024k
[10:53] <Curly_Q> OK.
[10:53] <cbf> i just enabled the root account by setting a password but as soon as i supply that password via ssh, i am disconnected. if i supply the wrong password it re-prompts me to type a password. what am i doing wrong?
[10:53] <Curly_Q> So what is the situation then?
[10:54] <dagon666> shuttle: additionally you can compress it
[10:54] <cbf> sshd_config seems to say root logins are allowed too
[10:54] <ikonia> dagon666: give me 2 minutes, on the phone
[10:54] <shuttle> dagon666: is there a package with gui available?
[10:54] <user> i changed the langauge of edubuntu 10.10 from english to albanian and sonce then i cant see new files i save from programs on the desktop
[10:54] <dagon666> maybe there is bu I do not care much about such stuff
[10:55] <user> help?
[10:55] <Axlin> Zealous: as stated, it comes with the distro. but i've found that gufw is the most reliable GUI method of managing it, though managing ufw rules through the command line isn't too difficult if you're willing to learn how :)
[10:55] <user> albanian language support
[10:55] <shuttle> dagon666: ok thx
[10:56] <ferengee> shuttle, if dd for some reason fails on your existing partition, use dd_rescue
[10:56] <dagon666> shuttle: you can also use dump -its a true backup program
[10:56] <ferengee> shuttle, and remember that you should not make an image of a mounted filesystem
[10:57] <shuttle> ok thx
[10:57] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173 what hardware are you running on that box?
[10:58] <ferengee> shuttle, and another tip :) try to recover your install from your image. So that you know your backup actually works
[10:59] <shuttle> ok, and i wanted to ask, whats a good mp3-convert-package?
[10:59] <UDPError> Hey guys. I'm currently dual booting Windows 7 and Fedora 13. I was wondering how would I replace my fedora with Ubuntu?
[11:00] <coz_> UDPError,  just install ubuntu over fedora
[11:00] <coz_> UDPError,   should be that simple
[11:00] <UDPError> will replace the bootloader with grub?
[11:01] <coz_> UDPError,  I am assuming it will... I have not done this with fedora so I am not positive
[11:01] <ferengee> shuttle, i like to use ffmpeg, but again that is commandline stuff
[11:01] <dagon666> UDPError: it would be better to reformat unfortunatelly, both systems come from completely different lines and conflicts may occur
[11:02] <coz_> shuttle,   sudo apt-get install  ffmpeg,,, then cd to the location of the file you want to convert and     ffmpeg -i  nameof.whichever   nameofmp3
[11:02] <rigved> UDPError: format the /boot and the /root partitions while installing ubuntu
[11:02] <rigved> UDPError: sorry that should be /
[11:02] <UDPError> no worries rigved I figured as so :)
[11:03] <qwebirc44173> This is the exact problem that I have http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=c9437dac0fddfb56461dc26eadd4fb11&t=1692877
[11:03] <ikonia> dagon666: appologies back now, are you still having a raid problem
[11:03] <UDPError> The fedora install was easy all I had to do is select the "replace an existing linux os" option
[11:03] <UDPError> does ubuntu have this option?
[11:03] <dagon666> ikonia: yeah
[11:03] <ikonia> dagon666: let me see if I can help you, what's the problem
[11:04] <coz_> UDPError,  it has the option to choose partition,, which it will probably name,  to overwrite it
[11:04] <rigved> UDPError: choose the manual partition option and erase the fedora partitions
[11:05] <dagon666> ikonia: sometimes at boot time my array does not get assembled and I land up in initramfs. I tried to remove one of the drives to force the degraded state and with one drive absent it does not want to boot, again I land up in initramfs shell
[11:05] <ikonia> dagon666: can you boot it at all ?
[11:05] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173 have you tried to halt the box as root or did you client sudo halt?
[11:05] <UDPError> Isn't Fedora a completely different system thanUbuntu though?
[11:05] <ikonia> dagon666: as in do you know how to fix it
[11:05] <dagon666> ikonia: yes, the array itself is ok. Im curently using this system
[11:05] <ikonia> UDPError: yes, it is a different linux distro
[11:06] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: I have sudo shutdown -h now and sudo poweroff
[11:06] <ikonia> dagon666: what type of array is it, mdadm ?
[11:06] <MrRagga> hi
[11:06] <dagon666> ikonia: the assembly problems at boot time are spontanious
[11:06] <MrRagga> i do have a Quadro FX 580 running the latest driver 260.19.44 with xorg version 1:7.5+6ubuntu3. i have two monitors connected via dvi but only the one is working which is directly connected to dvi. the second has a hdm -> dvi adapter and the monitor keeps unrecognised with the following error:"TwinView requested but only 1 display devices found"
[11:06] <MrRagga> here is my current xorg.conf http://paste.pocoo.org/show/363733/
[11:06] <UDPError> hmm okay I'll see what I can find :) will reboot into fedora and do so
[11:06] <ikonia> dagon666: ok, but is it an mdadm array ?
[11:06] <shomon> what happens if I syncrhonise a folder on ubuntu one, then turn off the sync - is the ubuntu one folder still going to be there? Just want to put it there, format this disc, reinstall and put it back...
[11:06] <dagon666> they happend quite rare, but they exist and sometimes du to them my server is not available. Yes its software raid mdadm
[11:07] <ikonia> dagon666: ok, first thing is, do you have an mdadm.conf
[11:07] <dagon666> yes
[11:07] <ikonia> dagon666: could you pastebin it for me please ?
[11:08] <dagon666> ikonia: http://pastie.org/1743073
[11:08] <ikonia> dagon666: where is that file located on your machine
[11:08] <dagon666> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[11:09] <ikonia> dagon666: perfect
[11:09] <ikonia> dagon666: ok, this is a raid5 array, do you have a seperate /boot partition ?
[11:09] <MiYabI> hello i'm new in ubuntu. is there taskmanager in ubuntu ?
[11:09] <dagon666> ikonia: no, everything including boot lies on md0
[11:10] <dagon666> ikonia: strange thing I noticed at the moment
[11:10] <ikonia> dagon666: that maybe the problem, there are a lot of problems with having /boot on a raid5 array
[11:10] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173, it may sound crazy but it almost seems that you have two instances or more root permissions going on at the same time. One says yes and the other is waiting. It is a thought. I had something like that happen when I did an SSH with two clients SSH channeling at the same time. I had to halt one client for the system to halt.
[11:10] <dagon666> mdadm.conf says that my array consists of 3 drives, but it should be 4
[11:10] <ikonia> dagon666: is it 3 drives and 1 spare, or 4 drives no spare
[11:10] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: so I sudo -s?
[11:11] <dagon666> ikonia: 4 drives active, no spare
[11:11] <ikonia> dagon666: ahh, ok, that is a problem
[11:11] <coz_> MiYabI,  you mean like window system monitor?
[11:11] <dagon666> ikonia: do you think that correcting this will help ?
[11:11] <ikonia> dagon666: manually re-assemble the array and then do a scan and redirect the output to the mdadm.conf (or a backup) and see if it recognises all 4 drives
[11:11] <Curly_Q> I would use top to see what is running or netstat -tuanlp
[11:11] <MiYabI> coz_ yea
[11:11] <ikonia> dagon666: if you have a 4 drive array, it will certainly help, you may want to consider moving /boot also if you can
[11:11] <coz_> MiYabI,  if that is the case it is gnome-system-monitor
[11:12] <MiYabI> coz_ no GUI ?
[11:12] <coz_> MiYabI,  under system/administration/ system monitor
[11:12] <coz_> MiYabI,  or hit   alt+F2  and type   gome-system-monitor
[11:12] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: so how I one user and then try to shut it down
[11:12] <UDPError> Is ubuntu LVM? like Fedora?
[11:12] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc are you doing this remotely?
[11:12] <MiYabI> coz_  how to launch that ? with terminal ?
[11:12] <dagon666> ikonia: ok, I'll try. Do you think that manuall correction of drives count will help anyway ?
[11:12] <coz_> UDPError,  you can set it up that way
[11:13] <qwebirc44173> MiYabI: alt+f2 (kleyboard )
[11:13] <qwebirc44173> .
[11:13] <UDPError> because Fedora is LVm.. that's the only reason I ask
[11:13] <MiYabI> Oh Ok. thanks all
[11:13] <coz_> MiYabI,  that's one way   also   alt+F2   or go to the menus  under  System / Administration / system monitor
[11:13] <ikonia> dagon666: as in manual correction in that config file ?
[11:13] <shomon> is there a more specific channel to ask about ubuntu one?
[11:13] <dagon666> ikonia: yes, exactly
[11:13] <ikonia> dagon666: no no no
[11:13] <coz_> MiYabI,  in terminal     gnome-system-monitor & disown     ,,,,  with alt+F2    gnome-system-monitor
[11:14] <MiYabI> coz_ thank you coz_
[11:14] <qwebirc44173> What is the difference between update-grub and update-grub2?
[11:14] <coz_> MiYabI,  no problem
[11:14] <ikonia> dagon666: don't do that, if it thinks there are only 3 drives, and your blockid is made up of those 3 drives, chaning it to 4 drives will invalidate your block ID
[11:14] <coz_> qwebirc44173,  I believe the  sudo update-grub2 is current  but then I am not a grub expert
[11:14] <ikonia> dagon666: correct the array to be using 4 drives, then do a scan to re-generate the config file with correct block id and drive numbers
[11:15] <qwebirc44173> coz_: yes it's the latest version of grub but update-grub does the same thing.
[11:15] <dagon666> ikonia: can I do a scan on assembled array ?
[11:15] <coz_> qwebirc44173,  I believe both are valid ... yes
[11:15] <ikonia> dagon666: is it currently running with 4 drives ?
[11:15] <coz_> qwebirc44173,  you can go to the #grub  channel to be sure
[11:15] <dagon666> ikonia: yes
[11:16] <ikonia> dagon666: sure
[11:16] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173, there is a difference between halt and shutdown. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639999
[11:17] <thevishy> hello friends now my window border has dissapeared
[11:18] <qwebirc44173> k
[11:18] <coz_> thevishy,   hit alt+F2  type   gtk-window-decorator  --replace
[11:18] <thevishy> thanks coz
[11:18] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: did not work
[11:18] <dagon666> ikonia: could you give me some example command. The array is very important to me and I d oevery operation on it with shaking hands :)
[11:19] <ikonia> dagon666: hang on, I can never remember this, it's something like mdadm --exaimne /dev/md0 --scan > mdadm.conf.out
[11:20] <ikonia> dagon666: mdadm --examine --scan > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf.new
[11:20] <CyFus> hey can someone help me figure out how to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, im trying to install CUDA but I cannot get the ldconfig to work
[11:20] <ikonia> CyFus: whats the problem
[11:21] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[11:21] <CyFus> i cannot get the libraries to be recognized, the examples will not compile with a ld returned 1 exit status
[11:21] <dagon666> ikonia: hmmm, it displays 4 devices and different UUID
[11:21] <dagon666> strange
[11:22] <elisa87> Hi anyone from wisconsin?
[11:22] <ikonia> dagon666: nope, that's perfect
[11:22] <elisa87> hi anyone from wisconin?
[11:22] <elisa87> has anyone ever been to wisconsin?
[11:22] <ikonia> dagon666: that is totally expected, and why I told you not to update the mdadm.conf manually
[11:22] <ikonia> dagon666: use that file as your mdadm.conf now and see if the problem goes away
[11:22] <ikonia> elisa87: why ?
[11:22] <larious> Thanks to this forum, now my modem connect not am on net, but am having other issue to complie since that am new to linux, I have 2 package giving to me from school as an assignment and i need to defend this
[11:22] <CyFus> i set the environment values, I set the path but I cannot get cuda to work
[11:22] <ikonia> CyFus: what is the error
[11:22] <dagon666> ikonia: I assume that if I would simply change the drives count in mdadm.conf I would be in serious shit ?
[11:23] <CyFus> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcutil_x86_64
[11:23] <CyFus> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lshrutil_x86_64
[11:23] <CyFus> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:23] <CyFus> make: *** [../../bin/linux/release/bandwidthTest] Error 1
[11:23] <FloodBot1> CyFus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <elisa87> ikonia I have been admitted to wisc.edu for phd program in ECE...I wanted to know more about the city :)
[11:23] <ikonia> CyFus: where are the libraries that are needed ?
[11:23] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173 It might be that in your halt file there may be a command that tells the computer to stay booted after halt which stops the halt.
[11:23] <larious> Can anyone help me on how to build a program and install on my linux
[11:23] <ikonia> elisa87: ok, try joining the loco team for that, this channel is only for ubuntu support
[11:23] <ikonia> larious: what program do you want to use
[11:23] <ikonia> dagon666: easy on the language, and yes, you'd be in real trouble if you changed it manually
[11:23] <CyFus> I installed the libraries they are part of the package, im just having trouble linking the libraries to the ldconfiguration
[11:23] <elisa87> what is loco team ikonia?
[11:24] <CyFus> so they are blind
[11:24] <ikonia> CyFus: where are the libraries
[11:24] <ikonia> !loco | elisa87
[11:24] <DJones> elisa87: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-wisconsin
[11:24] <erUSUL> elisa87: #ubuntu-us-wi or something like that :)
[11:24] <CyFus> usr/lib/local/cuda I think
[11:24] <ikonia> CyFus: you need to know
[11:24] <elisa87> @ubuntu-us-wi
[11:24] <DJones> elisa87: Join #ubuntu-us-wi
[11:24] <dagon666> ikonia: thanks for help
[11:24] <larious> ikonia: I need to install openvpn, I have the src and one other program called your-freedom, that is the example pof what I want to do
[11:24] <ikonia> dagon666: welcome, if you have time look at moving /boot off the array if possible
[11:25] <elisa87> djones and ikonia thx a lot
[11:25] <ikonia> larious: openvpn is in the ubuntu repos so you don't have to build it
[11:25] <ikonia> !info openvpn
[11:25] <CyFus> its usr/local/cuda
[11:25] <elisa87> (2:55:26 PM) locobot_2: (notice) #ubuntu-us-wi: The channel is logged (at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode). Please observe the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Thank you!
[11:25] <ikonia> larious: open the package manager, search for openvpn then hit install
[11:25] <ikonia> CyFus: ok, have you updated the ld search path ?
[11:25] <CyFus> thats the default config, I have it right
[11:25] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: how can I check the halt file
[11:25] <CyFus> thats the thing im getting stuck on getting ld to see it
[11:26] <ikonia> CyFus: no, have you updated the ld search path
[11:26] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: just tried apm power_off=1 in /etc/modules rebooted and sudo poweroff and did not wor
[11:26] <qwebirc44173> k
[11:26] <CyFus> ld.so.conf.d?
[11:26] <ikonia> CyFus: that's a directory
[11:26] <CyFus> i had to create a new conf file there for cuda
[11:26] <dagon666> ikonia: ok, I'll try to reboot
[11:26] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: "what is the machine (hardware profile) it is very possible that a peripheral is causing a "hang". Maybe a printer, sound card...."
[11:26] <ikonia> CyFus: ok, if you do an ldconfig -v do you see the library
[11:26] <N3o> hello! please tell me what vnc server is able to run on display :0 and adjust the resolution
[11:26] <larious> ikonia: actually I am not on linux,... can i should you a link so that you can see my other package
[11:27] <DrkShadow> What does an ubuntu livecd look like? Does everything need to be under a subdirectory called ubuntu?
[11:27] <ikonia> larious: no thanks
[11:27] <qwebirc44173> DrkShadow: it's the same but live
[11:27] <fejese> hi everyone! i found a bug on ubuntu.com download page, where could i report it?
[11:27] <ikonia> fejese: launchpad.net
[11:27] <fejese> thx
[11:27] <larious> ikonia: so how can you help me on other package
[11:27] <ikonia> larious: what OS do you want to do this on
[11:27] <ikonia> larious: what OS do you want to do this on
[11:27] <larious> Ubuntu
[11:27] <Curly_Q> Not sure my friend. I am thinking about it as we speak.
[11:27] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: lol
[11:27] <ikonia> larious: ok, so deal with openvpn first,
[11:27] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: ?
[11:28] <qwebirc44173> !repeat
[11:28] <qwebirc44173> :)
[11:28] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: don't be silly please, it's just pointless noise to someone getting help
[11:28] <larious> ikonia: BRB cos I need to switch to my linux environment
[11:28] <ikonia> larious: no problem, not going anywhere
[11:28] <CyFus> ikonia its going to take a bit im looking though many lines
[11:28] <u-foka> Hy! After installing today's updates for natty, my X crashes every time I touch my synaptics touchpad :( Anyone else has the same issue?
[11:29] <ikonia> CyFus: grep is a good cheat
[11:29] <ikonia> !natty | u-foka
[11:29] <qwebirc44173> ubottu: /join #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <qwebirc44173> u-foka: /join #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <u-foka> ok, I got it :)
[11:29] <devil> Hello!!
[11:30] <Chr|s> Just installed fresh copy of ubuntu 10.10...I am unable to see my desktop. How do I fix this? I enabled propreity graphics software. I am also on my cell phone. Please pm message
[11:31] <DrkShadow> Can someone pastebin for me their ubuntu live USB syslinux.cfg and txt.cfg please? :-)
[11:31] <tOrr`> hello, maybe someone can help me: how to reproduce an output bug like this: http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3460/outputbug.jpg ?
[11:31] <Chr|s> This has woked before
[11:32] <CyFus> yeah its in there all right
[11:32] <ikonia> CyFus: ok, so the dynamic linker is set fine, that means it's either been compiled wrong, or there is a problem with those libraries
[11:33] <Curly_Q> Chris do you see anything on the screen?
[11:33] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: just found this http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/APM_Power.html
[11:33] <^Phantom2^> weirdest thing just happened
[11:33] <^Phantom2^> ubuntu turned off my gfx card
[11:34] <Chr|s> Curly_Q yes just horizontal lines. On computer start up I can see everything
[11:35] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173, that makes sense. I had a problem years ago with Red Hat and had to append the RAM I had to the boot config file. Good research.
[11:35] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: so I need to add options in grub cfg
[11:35] <Curly_Q> Good work Qwebirc44173.
[11:36] <Curly_Q> I had an idea it was something like that.
[11:36] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: i didnt say my problem is solved :P
[11:36] <qwebirc44173> need to try all the stuff
[11:36] <Curly_Q> You are close though.
[11:36] <Curly_Q> Compiling the kernel is a different story though.
[11:37] <TrickyJ> #j ubuntu-locoteams
[11:37] <ikonia> Curly_Q: can you stop making random comments about your old redhat box and compiling kernels, no-one is even talking about that
[11:37] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: he's giving me hope
[11:37] <sl33k_> i want to find the path for --prefix. So how do i write my path to a directory? the directory is in /media/890...
[11:37] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: it's random and miss-leading
[11:37] <ikonia> sl33k_: in what respect ?
[11:38] <Chr|s> Any ideas?
[11:38] <sl33k_> ikonia: it says like this PREFIX=/path/to/where/I/want/directory
[11:38] <ikonia> sl33k_: what are you actually trying to do
[11:39] <Chr|s> Not sure how I could "roll back" graphics driver. Proproiety driver
[11:39] <CyFus> ugh what a mess I'm not sure how im going to fix this
[11:39] <sl33k_> ikonia: this is before compile to find the prefix to the directories not in root.
[11:39] <sl33k_> root directory
[11:39] <ikonia> sl33k_: you can set --prefix to where ever you want then, --prefix is where you want to install it, that's up to you
[11:39] <Nomikos> I'm running Ubuntu in a VirtualBox, but it doesn't go on the network until after I login via the login dialog. what should I look for?
[11:40] <gean> gean
[11:40] <Nomikos> To clarify, I'd like it to be able to accept incoming SSH and HTTP without logging in
[11:40] <Nomikos> *in the gui
[11:40] <ruan> Nomikos: you can disable the login dialog
[11:41] <Chr|s> Anyone have any suggestions? I cantr access my desktop with it being like this
[11:41] <Gnea> Nomikos: open your network manager settings
[11:41] <sl33k_> ikonia: will the path be something like ~/home/media/840...  or   /media/840 ?
[11:41] <Nomikos> ruan: I'd prefer not to
[11:41] <Gnea> Nomikos: there's an option to checkbox that it not be just for logins
[11:41] <ikonia> Nomikos: this is probably due to the fact that your network card is setup using network manager settings which doesn't get loaded until you log in
[11:41] <ikonia> sl33k_: it is where YOU want it to be
[11:42] <[deXter]> haha
[11:42] <[deXter]> did you guys see the narwhal on google earth?
[11:42] <[deXter]> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51%C2%B029%E2%80%9930.82%E2%80%B3+N+0%C2%B007%E2%80%9928.59%E2%80%B3+W&aq=&sll=51.49254,-0.124261&sspn=0.0035,0.010568&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16
[11:42] <ikonia> [deXter]: offtopic for this channel
[11:42] <sl33k_> ikonia: yea but where to start the path. noobie at paths.
[11:42] <ikonia> sl33k_: where ever YOU want
[11:43] <[deXter]> ikonia: Whoops, sorry. Is there an #ubuntu-chat or similar?
[11:43] <ikonia> [deXter]: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:43] <[deXter]> Sweet
[11:44] <sl33k_> ikonia: path will start with /media or /home/media?
[11:46] <ikonia> sl33k_: where YOU want
[11:46] <lee-x> sl33k_: /media
[11:46] <ikonia> lee-x: you don't know that, do you know his system ?
[11:47] <locodir-user> TrickyJ: HI
[11:47] <mariuzs> hello
[11:47] <TrickyJ> locodir-user, How are u buddy
[11:47] <rzx237> how to configure linux to use individual audio stream for laptop speaker and for headphone using one audio controller? or we need two audio controller?
[11:48] <mariuzs> i'm sic and i can't go to work
[11:49] <ikonia> mariuzs: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only
[11:49] <Zealous> lol Tux says NO!!!!!
[11:49] <ikonia> Zealous: ?
[11:50] <Zealous> idk trying to be funny, linux chat only
[11:50] <Zealous> dam irc can never do voices
[11:50] <mariuzs> sorry, OK i have problem with subwoofer in ubuntu 10.10
[11:50] <qwebirc44173> I installed apmd and typed amd -s it shows:  No APM support in kernel
[11:50] <ikonia> Zealous: please don't, you've been told what the channel topic is
[11:50] <qwebirc44173> :O
[11:50] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: did you add that apm options to the kernel boot
[11:51] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: ye need to reboot
[11:51] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: what options did you use ?
[11:51] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: im gonna try acpi=off apm=power_off
[11:51] <qwebirc44173> and there is apm=on i think
[11:51] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: ok, so would that not explain why there is no power managment support
[11:51] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: if you've turned them off
[11:51] <qwebirc44173> lol
[11:52] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: do I need the apm=on?
[11:52] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: depends if your hardware supports it
[11:52] <qwebirc44173> it does
[11:52] <qwebirc44173> it's on BIOS
[11:52] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: how do you know ?
[11:52] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: does it support it within linux
[11:52] <qwebirc44173> it should? lol
[11:52] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: how do you know ?
[11:52] <qwebirc44173> how can I know?
[11:53] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: research,
[11:53] <qwebirc44173> just trying
[11:53] <qwebirc44173> :P
[11:53] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: try it, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work
[11:54] <qwebirc44173> ok no need to be pessimist
[11:54] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: I'm not
[11:55] <Cyclopse> can anyone please tell me how to start with PHP on ubuntu?
[11:55] <ikonia> Cyclopse: in what way start, install it, or start writing softrware ?
[11:56] <Cyclopse> to install it
[11:56] <fairuz> Cyclopse: Install php, apache and mysql
[11:56] <ikonia> Cyclopse: I assume you'll be wanting to use web applications with it, eg: wordpress or something like that
[11:56] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: it continues to show no apm support in kernel
[11:57] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: as I said, don't be surprised
[11:57] <Cyclopse> I want to work on web applications
[11:57] <fairuz> Cyclopse: If you don't want to install each of them separately, try Xampp : http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[11:57] <fairuz> There are some instructions there that you can follow
[11:57] <ikonia> fairuz: please don't recommend that
[11:57] <ikonia> Cyclopse: don't use xammp
[11:57] <ikonia> !lamp | Cyclopse
[11:58] <fairuz> ikonia: ah yes, sure. :D
[11:58] <novitololo> any recommendation of a program to take notes?
[11:58] <ikonia> Cyclopse: that information the ubottu gave you will walk you through installing the supported LAMP stack, which is PHP and Mysql DB on ubuntu, perfect for php applications
[11:58] <Guest50103> Why did my network always go offline today?
[11:59] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc44173, I shut down my Linux box from my SSH box and there was a clue to your situation. I saw this: Broadcast message /dev/pts/0    There is a Linux organization called:  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2000-May/002889.html      Check that out.
[11:59] <DavidGao> I mean before I changed into Xubuntu
[11:59] <Cyclopse> thanks for the help:)
[11:59] <qwebirc44173> Curly_Q: dunno what it means
[11:59] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: ignore it
[12:00] <ikonia> Curly_Q: could you explain how that releats to power managment ?
[12:00] <Curly_Q> It talks about the Linux kernel and the shutdown message.
[12:00] <DrkShadow> I hate spending hours upon hours on something before coming to the conclusion that it's just unsupported hardware.
[12:00] <ikonia> Curly_Q: who is asking about a shutdown message
[12:00] <Curly_Q> Qwebirc was.
[12:00] <DavidGao> Ah, hello everyone~~
[12:00] <DrkShadow> never mind, now I'm getting the error on both machines. USB key, "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" -- anyone know how to fix that?
[12:01] <qwebirc44173> at /etc/default/halt # Default behaviour of shutdown -h / halt. Set to "halt" or "poweroff". HALT=poweroff
[12:01] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: yes, so is the problem a shutdown message or power managment
[12:01] <qwebirc44173> hopefully not hardware
[12:01] <DavidGao> ubuntu seems not running well on my ancient 2003 machine...could anyone please tell me which version I should use?
[12:01] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: yes, so is the problem a shutdown message or power managment
[12:02] <Rovanion> Does anyone know what could cause only being able to join one wireless network per boot. I've tried restarting networking and, depending on what I had installed, wicd and NM. I'm still only able to connect to one wireless network per boot.
[12:05] <qwebirc44173> Where is   CONFIG_APM=y ?
[12:05] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: it's in the kernel
[12:06] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: it's a compile time option, but as ubuntu is modular it's likley to be set to "M"
[12:06] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: can I check its config?
[12:06] <qwebirc44173> hm
[12:06] <xiaoy> Which pkgs should i install to get 32bit compatibility in a 64bit Ubuntu?
[12:06] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: I'll help you out, it's amodule
[12:06] <ikonia> module
[12:06] <qwebirc44173> ok tks
[12:06] <ikonia> xiaoy: if you install a 32bit package, it will pull the deps in
[12:07] <xiaoy> ikonia, is thera a name for the 32bit main package?
[12:08] <phonex01> hi guys is there any tool can be used as wifi spy chanalyzer on ubuntu ?
[12:08] <ruan> xiaoy: there isn't really a 'main' package, but you can try ia32-libs
[12:08] <Zealous> spy chanalyzer????
[12:08] <Zealous> you want to monitor your wifi network?
[12:09] <Zealous> to see who is connected
[12:09] <phonex01> i can use aircrack
[12:09] <phonex01> but i want to see the spectrum
[12:09] <Zealous> i don't security talk is covered in this room
[12:09] <phonex01> there is some tools for windows do that
[12:09] <Zealous> could try the backtrack room
[12:09] <ikonia> xiaoy: compat-libs, something like i386-compat-libs
[12:09] <ikonia> Zealous: please don't make things up
[12:09] <ikonia> security talk related to ubuntu is fine
[12:09] <phonex01> im not trying to hack someone
[12:10] <Zealous> well i mentioned aircrack yesterday and i got told to take it to backtrack room
[12:10] <ikonia> Zealous: #backtrackl-linux is for backtrack linux support, not security in general, as you've been told in #backtrack-linux
[12:10] <phonex01> im working on a wifi module
[12:10] <ruan> hmm, so you want to see who is connected to a wifi network?
[12:10] <phonex01> no man
[12:10] <ruan> what exactly then?
[12:10] <phonex01> i want to see the spectrum between channels
[12:10] <ruan> hmm
[12:11] <phonex01> there is a tool for windows called wifi spy chanalyzer
[12:11] <ruan> does that work on wine?
[12:11] <phonex01> no
[12:12] <phonex01> look like this : http://www.metageek.net/support/downloads/
[12:14] <HRezaei> Hi ti All! I have a problem using Ubuntu One: I see this error while trying to register or sign in: "NoneType" object has no attribute 'makefile'?!
[12:15] <Chr|s> !ops | siska
[12:15] <ikonia> ?
[12:15] <Chr|s> advertising
[12:15] <ikonia> Chr|s: why have you called the ops
[12:16] <ikonia> Chr|s: where ?
[12:16] <Chr|s> siska
[12:16] <ruan> can't see siska anywhere
[12:16] <ikonia> Chr|s: where ?
[12:16] <ruan> in the channel but i dont see any advertising
[12:16] <arune> when my laptop enters or leaves suspend I would like it to do a "killall ssh" so that I dont have some "frozen" terminals when I wake the laptop from suspend, I guess there is some script that will run automatically?
[12:16] <Chr|s> my bad,must of noticed me
[12:16] <Chr|s> thought it was in channel
[12:17] <hvnsweeting> hi, please help me, i've reinstalled Windows, i try to restore grub2 after read some tut on net. But now, when i boot, i just got the "grub> " please tell me how to fix this. Thanks
[12:17] <DirtyDawg> guys, i have about 2 weeks ago just started using Ubuntu so i am still getting used to it, i have a disk with 3 partitions, one ext3 (Ubuntu) and 2 NTFS from when i had windows installed, even tho they both work and are readable under Ubuntu i would like to delete them both and resize the Ubuntu ext3 partition into 1 ext3, using Gparted (booted) would this cause any problems or should it work ok?
[12:18] <ruan> DirtyDawg: it should work. ubuntu is not dependant on NTFS
[12:18] <ikonia> DirtyDawg: as long as you do it from a livecd you won't have a problem
[12:18] <DirtyDawg> ahh thx guys :)
[12:18] <ikonia> DirtyDawg: you won't be able to resize the ubuntu OS partition while you are using it, hence using a livecd
[12:19] <ZeeTron> just make backup before
[12:19] <ZeeTron> use hirens xD
[12:19] <DirtyDawg> ahh yeah i wondered about that, i just bought some cd's to burn the bootable one
[12:19] <ruan> it can be done from a usb too
[12:19] <venkatesh> hello
[12:20] <hvnsweeting> hi, please help me, i've reinstalled Windows, i try to restore grub2 after read some tut on net. But now, when i boot, i just got the "grub> " please tell me how to fix this. Thanks
[12:20] <ZeeTron> or by a floop disc
[12:20] <ZeeTron> :P
[12:21] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: I have added the commands to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line
[12:21] <qwebirc44173> is that right?
[12:21] <ruan> havent seen a floppy that can store 700mb of data
[12:21] <qwebirc44173> lol
[12:21] <cipher_> lmao
[12:21] <ZeeTron> i didnt say that
[12:21] <ZeeTron> i said boot by
[12:22] <ruan> floop disc?
[12:22] <ZeeTron> and not do all with a floop
[12:22] <ruan> oh
[12:22] <OomElvis> hey all, i wanted to connect to a host via SSH, but dont want my domain to appear in the command "history" - is there a way to use SSH like telnet where u run telnet and then type: "open destination"
[12:22] <qwebirc44173> ZeeTron: I know you can create a rescue floppy
[12:22] <ZeeTron> yeah
[12:22] <ZeeTron> u see?
[12:22] <venkatesh> hello everybody ....I have installed teamviewer package in ubuntu 10.10 , first it was showing the icon in internet menu , but now its not showing the icon, if i open from the command line it works.  how to bring back the teamviewer icon back to internet menu
[12:22] <OomElvis> in some sort of interactive mode
[12:22] <qwebirc44173> OomElvis: ssh -p PORT USER@HOSTNAME
[12:22] <qwebirc44173> ?
[12:22] <OomElvis> but then it gets rrecorded in the history
[12:22] <OomElvis> when u type "histroy"
[12:22] <qwebirc44173> host*
[12:23] <OomElvis> but if i went telnet > open mydomain.com
[12:23] <OomElvis> then it wouldnt be seen
[12:23] <qwebirc44173> OomElvis: nano .bashrc
[12:23] <qwebirc44173> add the line unset=HISTFILE
[12:23] <qwebirc44173> save
[12:23] <cselab> hw 2 install mysql without internet connection
[12:23] <qwebirc44173> then rm .bash_history
[12:23] <qwebirc44173> source .bashrc
[12:23] <OomElvis> qwebirc44173: cool!
[12:23] <cipher_> venkatesh, right click on the application ->edit menus .. there u go
[12:23] <OomElvis> thans man
[12:23] <OomElvis> ye know too much
[12:24] <disse> Hey guy's I have a problem with proxychains
[12:24] <disse> http://nopaste.me/paste/4d95b3b6960c4
[12:24] <disse>  there on the link is the full description
[12:24] <qwebirc44173> lol
[12:24] <cselab> cipher_, hw 2 install mysql without internet connection
[12:24] <ZeeTron> :D
[12:24] <ZeeTron> right click of a mouse
[12:24] <qwebirc44173> OomElvis:
[12:24] <cselab> ZeeTron,  hw 2 install mysql without internet connection
[12:24] <qwebirc44173> OomElvis:  it is unset HISTFILE
[12:25] <qwebirc44173> not unset=HISTFILE
[12:25] <OomElvis> oh ok
[12:25] <OomElvis> cool
[12:25] <cselab> qwebirc44173,   hw 2 install mysql without internet connection
[12:25] <ZeeTron> cselab i dont have clue
[12:25] <ruan> cselab: get the packages from a pc that has a internet connection, and put it on the pc
[12:25] <cselab> Zeelot, ok thnx
[12:26] <OomElvis> or i could make a bash script that connects to the host
[12:26] <OomElvis> then i delete the script
[12:26] <OomElvis> :p
[12:26] <cselab> ruan, i mean wt r those pkgs
[12:26] <vbajpai> exit
[12:26] <vbajpai> quit
[12:26] <ruan> cselab: not sure, but they should be on packages.ubuntu.com somewhere
[12:26] <qwebirc44173> cselab: you could download the .deb file
[12:26] <ruan> yeah the deb files
[12:26] <qwebirc44173> cselab: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:27] <ZeeTron> they said withou internet
[12:27] <qwebirc44173> make sure you have the dependecies
[12:27] <cselab> qwebirc44173,i downloaded a file from my sql website.it hav no install script
[12:27] <ZeeTron> *him
[12:27] <ruan> ZeeTron: via usb flash drive from a pc that has internet
[12:27] <iceroot> cselab: install script for what?
[12:27] <qwebirc44173> dont know if you can install a package from installation cd
[12:28] <cselab> iceroot, its a single wordinstallscript
[12:28] <qwebirc44173> but that would be outdated anyway
[12:28] <iceroot> cselab: a what?
[12:28] <cselab> iceroot, i mean i hav no file to install mysql
[12:28] <ruan> cselab: get the .deb packages for mysql
[12:28] <cselab> iceroot, only some binary files
[12:28] <ruan> !lamp
[12:29] <iceroot> cselab: what do you want to install?
[12:29] <cselab> iceroot, mysql
[12:29] <cselab> ruan, am on www.packages.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <cselab> ruan, section please....
[12:29] <iceroot> cselab: sudo apt-get install mysql
[12:29] <elfranne> is there a CLI version of ubuntu one or a way to install ubuntu one client on a headless server ?
[12:29] <Pumpkin-> another method, "export HISTCONTROL=ignorespace", and then prefix commands you don't want to be saved in the history with a space
[12:29] <ruan> iceroot: he wants to install it on another pc. packages get will do
[12:30] <iceroot> cselab: sudo apt-get install -d mysql-server
[12:30] <cselab> iceroot, its not working i hav 2 update repositories 4 that
[12:30] <Pumpkin-> so "echo foo" would go in the history, but " echo foo" wouldn't
[12:30] <iceroot> cselab: then copy the file from /var/cache/apt/ to the other machine and use "sudo dpkg -i mysql-server....deb"
[12:30] <cselab> iceroot, thnx a lot
[12:31] <ruan> yep, that will work
[12:31] <cselab> iceroot, anything other tahn taht?
[12:31] <mih1406> I want to extract data from files to a single file using grep?
[12:31] <cselab> other than that?
[12:31] <ruan> cselab: once you have the .deb file, you can install it without an internet connection
[12:31] <mih1406> Grep prints only the files name not the matched regexp
[12:31] <ruan> cselab: provided that it has all the dependancies
[12:32] <DrkShadow> The live CD doesn't detect /dev/sdb1 as the source for the live filesystem... how can I tell it to look there, or manually mount it, or whatever?
[12:32] <ruan> mih1406: what type of files are these?
[12:32] <cselab> ruan, thats ma qstn....does it hav all d dependencies?
[12:32] <ruan> cselab: it should
[12:32] <oCean> mih1406: grep prints both: the filename as well as the matching line
[12:32] <qwebirc44173> OomElvis: ssh will hash stuff to .ssh/known_hosts
[12:33] <mih1406> ruan, text files
[12:33] <cselab> ruan,am on packages.ubuntu.com which section shud i select?
[12:33] <mih1406> I want to print the found matched regexp
[12:34] <qwebirc44173> mih1406: use cat?
[12:34] <mih1406> cat?
[12:34] <oCean> mih1406: grep -h will not print the filename, where the regexp is found
[12:34] <cselab> ok bye 2 all
[12:34] <qwebirc44173> bye
[12:35] <mih1406> I have 3 file of my database and I want to extracts usernames and emails to a single file
[12:35] <llewangus825> Hi all, I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction - I'm not sure what I did but when I try scrol through menues like the application menu it does not always open the next menu (intermittent) and I can double click - I have tried loads of search terms - but I don't know what I am actually asking.... Any help would be very gratfully recieved.
[12:36] <qwebirc44173> I have a /proc/acpi not /proc/apm
[12:36] <oCean> mih1406: yeah, so?
[12:36] <lolmaus> How do i list all groups a certain user belongs to? In console
[12:36] <mih1406> how to extract these data to a single file?
[12:36] <qwebirc44173> mih1406: > file
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> lolmaus:  one way would be to grep the /etc/groups file for their name. or check the groups command.
[12:37] <ruan> mih1406: cat file1 >file.txt
[12:37] <mih1406> qwebirc44173, this prints the file name and the line but I want the emails and usernames
[12:37] <oCean> mih1406: I told you
[12:37] <qwebirc44173> lol
[12:37] <oCean> mih1406: you have to come with examples, or show in paste.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <lolmaus> Dr_Willis, yay! Thx for "groups"!
[12:38] <mih1406> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/588209/
[12:40] <mih1406> Can you gave me the whole command that extracts emails from 3 files to single files so I have a list of emails with their username
[12:40] <oCean> mih1406: use * for each file in that directory
[12:40] <DrkShadow> Is there _any_ way to install Ubuntu from a non-ubuntu system?
[12:40] <erkan^> !jodi
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> DrkShadow:  debootstrap is one way
[12:40] <Cube``> when's 11.4 coming out?
[12:40] <Cube``> aint no counter on the homepage
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> DrkShadow:  fancy virtualbox tricks.
[12:40] <DrkShadow> oh screw it. I can just use the mini disk... it doesn't need to load a live filesystem.
[12:40] <ruan> !natty
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  end of the month normally. 2011 4th month...
[12:40] <Cube``> thanks ruan
[12:40] <Cube``> ah ok
[12:40] <Cube``> thanks guys
[12:41] <HRezaei> I have run sudo firefox in terminal. It opened ff and now I can not write any commands else. how to return to command line?
[12:41] <oCean> mih1406: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588211/
[12:41] <ruan> HRezaei: why sudo firefox?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> HRezaei:  bash job controll,.,.  ctrl-z and the 'bg' command. is one way
[12:41] <qwebirc44173> just found this beauty  cat /boot/config-2.6.35-28-generic | grep APM
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> HRezaei:  i also have to wonder.. why would ou need to do sudo firefox.
[12:41] <Pumpkin-> HRezaei: lots of questions
[12:42] <Pumpkin-> 1.) Why are you running Firefox as root ?
[12:42] <ruan> HRezaei: first, firefox doesn't need root, and second, it should be run as gksudo
[12:42] <Pumpkin-> 2.) You can tell tasks to run in the background by putting a & on the end of them (for example "firefox &")
[12:42] <Pumpkin-> 3.) Hit CTRL-C will get you back to the command prompt, but it will close firefox
[12:43] <llewangus825> Just wondering if it could have anything to do with enabling PAE?
[12:44] <HRezaei> ruan, Dr_Willis ,Pumpkin- I wanted to update my ff from 3.6 to 4. so extracted 4.tar.gz then I did not know how to upgrade. so tested that command in extracted folder!
[12:44] <ruan> !ff4
[12:44] <mih1406> thank you guys
[12:44] <qwebirc44173> I need help enabling APM support!
[12:44] <mih1406> oCean, special thank to oCean
[12:45] <oCean> mih1406: welcome
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> HRezaei:  thats not the proper way top upgrade it at all. and even then. there was no need to do sudo firefox.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> HRezaei:  your user could of extracted/ran the binaries from that tar.gz
[12:48] <HRezaei> ubottu: I have downloaded it before ! but your commands are downloading it again!
[12:48] <chatmachine> BREAKING NEWS! http://bit.ly/fpzn0q BREAKING NEWS!
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[12:48] <FloodBot1> chatmachine: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <prx> hi
[12:49] <vieira061180> hi prx
[12:49] <qwebirc44173> This is my old machine http://www.ciao.co.uk/Productinformation/PCCHIPS_M810_LMR__5409872
[12:49] <prx> Is there an alternative for Ubuntu 10.10 for the networkmanager, like wpa_gui that i may use?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> HRezaei:  You really dont want to be using the tar.gz file at all.  If you want to upgrade firefox 'system wide' you need to enable the proper repositories.
[12:49] <qwebirc44173> prx: wicd
[12:49] <ruan> prx: wicd
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> prx:  theres wicd that many people use
[12:49] <HRezaei> Dr_Willis:  I have downloaded it before ! but ubottu commands are downloading it again!
[12:50] <prx> thx, trying...
[12:50] <ruan> HRezaei: those commands install it properly
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> HRezaei:   You dowloaded that tar.gz - which is not needed. You need to enable the stable firefox 4 ppa repopsotry and update it that way
[12:51] <prx> wow, wicd even comes with a curses gui :)
[12:51] <HRezaei> Dr_Willis: I have had same problems installing other software! Is there any rich article helping me understanding use of repositories fully?
[12:51] <ruan> !ppa
[12:53] <HRezaei> thx all!
[12:55] <qwebirc44173> where is apm module located?
[12:56] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: kernel tree
[12:56] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: dont get it
[12:57] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: what do you want to do
[12:57] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: to enable apm module
[12:57] <qwebirc44173> cat /boot/config-2.6.35-28-generic | grep APM  shows CONFIG_APM=m
[12:57] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: load the module then
[12:57] <qwebirc44173> should be =y
[12:57] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: no it shouldn't
[12:57] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: I tried it didnt found
[12:57] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: I told you it would not be "y"
[12:58] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: how did you try to load it
[12:58] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: sudo modprobe apm
[12:58] <qwebirc44173> and sudo -s
[12:58] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: is that the modules name ?
[12:58] <qwebirc44173> btw its PAE kernel
[12:58] <qwebirc44173> same thing on desktop
[12:58] <ikonia> that's not what I asked
[12:58] <qwebirc44173> I know
[12:58] <ikonia> ok
[12:59] <qwebirc44173> I think it is called apm
[12:59] <qwebirc44173> :)
[12:59] <qwebirc44173> modprobe apm FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic-pae/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/apm.ko): No such device
[12:59] <qwebirc44173> fail
[12:59] <dj__> how to compile c program in ubuntu
[12:59] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: ok, "think" it not enough, you need to know the name of the module you are loaded
[12:59] <ruan> !compile | dj__
[12:59] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: ok - so that's the problem than, that module doesn't exist in that directory, so either it's not there, or it's the wrong name
[13:00] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: it is apm
[13:00] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: how do you know ?
[13:00] <qwebirc44173> ive seen in websites
[13:01] <qwebirc44173> ppl telling to load apm module
[13:01] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: use load the apm module, that doesn't it is / is not actually called apm
[13:01] <dj__> how n wer to comile c in ubutnu
[13:01] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: eg: I could tell you to load the scsi disk module, that doesn't mean the module is called "scsi disk"
[13:03] <ulughbegh> have you heard latest rumors after the 11.4 ubuntu will be a paid os :O
[13:03] <Krabbe> >:D
[13:03] <qwebirc44173> topic ulughbegh
[13:03] <qwebirc44173> ban ftw
[13:04] <ulughbegh> opps sorry
[13:06]  * DirtyDawg thinks the paid for Ubuntu is an April fool joke :D
[13:06] <ikonia> DirtyDawg: bit slow
[13:06] <DirtyDawg> was eating a sammich
[13:06] <DirtyDawg> just noticed lol
[13:07] <[TK]D-Fender> ikonia: Not at all... you were remarkably fast! *chop* :)
[13:08] <lolmaus> I've created a user on ubuntu server and added it to the "admin" group. But when i try to login via SSH it says access denied. Why?
[13:09] <lolmaus> I changed password to 123 so there's no typo
[13:10] <prx> lolmaus: inside the sshd config there may be some part that rejects logins for users in this group, why does the wheel group not succeed?
[13:10] <jrib> lolmaus: can you « ssh localhost » on the server locally and login as the user?
[13:10] <ikonia> prx: ubuntu does use wheel
[13:11] <prx> ikonia: jup, but lolmaus used admin
[13:11]  * jrib pokes ikonia
[13:11] <jrib> prx: he meant "doesn't"
[13:11] <prx> jrib: ah, sorry
[13:12] <prx> I need to stay a bit to get some more information about ubuntu... ;)
[13:12] <jrib> prx: essentially, the just use "admin" instead of "wheel"
[13:13] <ikonia> jrib: thank you
[13:13] <LjL> does Ubuntu support the Creative X-Fi nowadays, and if so how well and is it with OSS drivers?
[13:13] <ikonia> LjL: it get "ok" sound out of it, nothing advanced, stero etc
[13:13] <LjL> ikonia: you mean no stereo?
[13:13] <lolmaus> jrib, the server is remote. And i can login to it with my own user.
[13:14] <Pici> lolmaus: I suspect that you used useradd instead of adduser and the user's account isn't sufficiently set up.
[13:14] <ikonia> LjL: no, I get the basics, such as stereo
[13:14] <jrib> lolmaus: fine do « ssh localhost » after you login with your own user
[13:14] <lolmaus> Pici, i used the interactive one
[13:14] <LjL> ikonia: ah. can you sample at 192kHz (assuming it supports that, i think it does but not quite sure)?
[13:15] <lolmaus> jrib, yup, it did let me in
[13:15] <ikonia> LjL: it can play back at that, so I'd assume sample also
[13:15]  * jrib didn't expect that hrmph
[13:15] <jrib> lolmaus: you did « ssh non-working-user@localhost »?
[13:16] <LjL> ikonia: some cards can play back at 192kHz but not sample. can you test this for me please?  "arecord -f dat -r 192000 -D hw:0,0 -d 5 test.wav". if it doesn't support 192kHz, it will say that the "requested" sample rate is different from what you "got"
[13:16] <ikonia> LjL: not got access to that box at the moment, it's my desktop that's powered off
[13:16] <ikonia> LjL: I can do it for you though if you remind me
[13:16] <LjL> ikonia: ok i'll remind you later then, thanks
[13:17] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[13:18] <lolmaus> jrib, yes sir
[13:18] <jrib> lolmaus: pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[13:18] <lolmaus> jrib, btw, i'm trying SFTP over SSH, not just SSH
[13:18] <Las_> hi people
[13:19] <ThE_aLiEn_return> alguma brasileiro ai?
[13:19] <ThE_aLiEn_return> *algum
[13:19] <jrib> !br | ThE_aLiEn_return
[13:19] <ZeeTron> sem aspas!
[13:19] <Las_> I dunno but sudently my cdrom doesn't work in ubuntu 10.10
[13:20] <ZeeTron> do that thing of mount ...
[13:20] <ikonia> ZeeTron: what ?
[13:20] <ZeeTron> lol
[13:20] <lolmaus> jrib, but it won't let me in via Putty either... sshd_config should be default: http://pastie.org/1743452
[13:20] <ikonia> ZeeTron: why is that funny ?
[13:21] <ZeeTron> my browser has crash
[13:21] <jrib> lolmaus: what do you mean "either"?  You said that « ssh non-working-user@localhost » DOES work, correct?
[13:21] <ZeeTron> i cant remember how 2 mount a cdrom
[13:21] <vieira061180> eu sou brasileiro
[13:21] <Pici> !br | vieira061180
[13:21] <Las_> If I do --> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom It says that It can't find /dev/sr0
[13:21] <ZeeTron> but i guess it could help that guy
[13:23] <ikonia> ZeeTron: if you don't know how to do something, don't offer advice
[13:23] <ZeeTron> i think that is harware Las_
[13:23] <ThE_aLiEn_return> ! ubottu
[13:23] <ZeeTron> [ikonia]: i know google that
[13:23] <ThE_aLiEn_return> !br ubottu
[13:24] <Uboss> I have Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop Edition (Normal Ubuntu), if I would like to change my Ubuntu to Ubuntu Netbook Remix Edition, can I?
[13:24] <jrib> ThE_aLiEn_return: escreve: /join #ubuntu-br
[13:25] <coz_> Uboss,  open synaptic package manager    ,, hit search ,, tyep   netbook,,, you probably wanth the gnome one not the kubuntu one
[13:25] <enoch> hi all
[13:26] <Peddy> I have a directory at /home/user1/share that I'm sharing. How can I access the directory from another computer, using user2's credentials (on the share computer)?
[13:26] <enoch> how can i play a video on two ubuntu machines perfectly syncrhronized?
[13:26] <coz_> Uboss,  so look for  ubuntu-netbook
[13:26] <Uboss> coz_, I don't know :P I would like the Netbook edition which says in www.ubuntu.com (I would like to transform into that through upgrade process if possible).
[13:26] <coz_> Uboss, oh the 11.04
[13:27] <enoch> ...
[13:27] <Uboss> coz_, yeah but with Netbook's User Interface
[13:27] <coz_> Uboss,   well my suggestion is not to upgrade to 11.04  but clean install,,, however ,, it really is not ready
[13:27] <lolmaus> jrib, it does work locally (after logging in remotely via my working user). But it does not work directly
[13:27] <coz_> Uboss,   well the similar interface in is ubuntu netbook edition but not sure if it is identical to the natty netbook Unity
[13:27] <Uboss> coz_, can I transform my ubuntu into ubuntu netbook's edition and stay on 10.04 as I am now?
[13:27] <jrib> lolmaus: did you see what Pici said about how you created the user?
[13:28] <coz_> Uboss,  sure ,, just install the ubuntu-netbook   ,, I would google ubuntu 10.10  netbook screenshots to be sure its what you want
[13:28] <lolmaus> jrib, i've created my user with the interactive command
[13:28] <jrib> lolmaus: what interactive command?
[13:28] <coz_> Uboss,  rather google ubuntu 10.04
[13:28] <lolmaus> jrib, adduser?
[13:28] <coz_> Uboss,  with  netbook and take a look at it
[13:28] <Uboss> coz_, thanks dude. :)
[13:28] <jrib> lolmaus: why a question mark at the end of that?
[13:29] <Uboss> have a nice day everyone
[13:29] <coz_> Uboss,  if your system is fairly  new  it should be able to handle it  otherwise  mutter,, the compositor will take up resources,,aka  a hog
[13:29] <coz_> Uboss,  or wait until the end of April for the release of ubuntu 11.04
[13:30] <lolmaus> jrib, i don't remember which one of two is interactive :) It created the home folder and stuff. And it lets me in locally.
[13:30] <Uboss> coz_, I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now. An idea came into my mind today if I would be able to change my Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 or 10.10. Anyway, I will search more and then decide. Thanks!
[13:31] <jrib> lolmaus: can you pastebin your attempt at sshing remotely and all of the output?
[13:31] <lolmaus> jrib, FCUK!!!! I'm an idiot
[13:31] <coz_> Uboss,  ok
[13:31] <lolmaus> jrib, the SSH port is NOT 22
[13:31] <Uboss> lolmaus :P
[13:32] <jrib> lolmaus: it is according to what you pasted :/
[13:32] <qwebirc44173> sudo apt-get install brain
[13:32] <Peddy> how can I control which users have access to a shared folder?
[13:32] <qwebirc44173> oops
[13:32] <ikonia> Peddy: file system permissions
[13:34] <mih1406> I have a file with a big list and I want to separate it into more than one file
[13:34] <Peddy> ikonia, even when the permission on the shared folder is 777, I am unable to access it from any account besides the creator account.
[13:34] <mih1406> is it possible with grep?
[13:34] <jrib> mih1406: depends on how you want to separate it...
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  access via samba? or on the local system/normal paths?
[13:35] <ikonia> Peddy: look at the permissions above the folder your in
[13:35] <k405> mih1406,  if u redirect the output with >
[13:35] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, samba.
[13:35] <Peddy> ikonia, so if /home/user1 is restricted to user1 only, then /home/user1/share will still be inaccessible by other users?
[13:35] <mih1406> separate it in any possible way because it is more than 25 MB and want it to be 5 MB each
[13:35] <ikonia> Peddy: correct
[13:36] <jrib> mih1406: you can use "split" if you want to split the file strictly by size
[13:36] <Peddy> ikonia, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
[13:36] <janybek> hi there
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  if accessing via samba - other users should be able to access it. IF its set up right
[13:37] <janybek> need some help with gitosis
[13:37] <amgarchIn9> mih1406: man split; split -l NLINES input
[13:37] <k405> what is your use case mih1406?
[13:37] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, I just used the standard nautilus method of sharing options>share
[13:37] <janybek> join #github
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  a local user2 trying to access /home/user1/share would reqwuire proper permissions on the dir and the dirs above it.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  douvle check your shareing options and allow the guest share feature i think
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  you may want to give the users a actual samba password also with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[13:38] <mih1406> a file with a big list of emails and usernames each pair in one line and want to split this lone list into lists
[13:38] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, ah, I understand - that makes perfect sense, I understand now. With this samba password, will it work just as standard system accounts have been working (to access the shares?)
[13:39] <jrib> mih1406: amgarchIn9 gave you the exact command
[13:39] <mih1406> i am trying it now
[13:39] <xelister> open office does not start
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  samba has 10000's of config options. check teh samba-doc package for books on configuring samba
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  personally i just enable the home shares for samba. and thats about it.
[13:40] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, thanks for your help. Good night!
[13:41] <dyd> hi all
[13:41] <oneman> hi
[13:42] <qwebirc44173> "apm: BIOS not found."
[13:42] <qwebirc44173> what?
[13:42] <edbian> qwebirc44173: april fools joke?
[13:42] <oneman> <  C Coder / Advanced User     ... Been using natty for a few weeks on my sandy bridge 2500k cpu + h67 chip motherboard, there has been graphics related crashes and messups throughout, is there anything I can do to help ?
[13:42] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: I asked you if your board supported apm under linux and told you not to be surprised if it didn't
[13:43] <dyd> i have a problem with backup: at this poing /host/ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.tar it gives this error tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[13:43] <oneman> the app-report gpu thing seems to crash itself...
[13:43] <qwebirc44173> no edbian
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> the bios may not support APM. but supports that other method.. APCI?
[13:43] <dyd> why that happens?
[13:43] <qwebirc44173> Dr_Willis: apci wont work
[13:45] <wibo> join pitivi
[13:46] <wibo> join #pitivi
[13:46] <qwebirc44173> wibo: /join
[13:47] <hellomrjack> would this be the right place to ask for help compiling from source?
[13:47] <jrib> hellomrjack: sure... what are you compiling?
[13:48] <hellomrjack> jrib: just some support libs for opencv
[13:49] <qwebirc44173> so Linux doesnt like my mobo
[13:49] <hellomrjack> jrib: what im having a problem with is that configure isnt picking up my local install in $HOME/local/lib
[13:49] <BlaDe^> I added a user like: sudo useradd -d /ftp/datafeed -g ftp -p <password> -s /usr/sbin/nologin datafeed
[13:49] <BlaDe^> but I can't login via vsftpd -- why?
[13:49] <BlaDe^> it says incorrect pass
[13:50] <hellomrjack> jrib: i have the path in PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[13:51] <qwebirc44173> should I flash the BIOS?
[13:51] <qwebirc44173> http://www.pcchipsusa.com/PCCWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=175&DetailName=Bios&DetailDesc=M810%20%20%28V7.1%29&CategoryID=1&MenuID=82&LanID=2
[13:51] <FloodBot1> qwebirc44173: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <qwebirc44173> FloodBot1: ?
[13:52] <jrib> hellomrjack: isn't opencv in the repositories?  Why aren't you using apt?
[13:53] <hellomrjack> jrib: I have to install it locally from source as im not a sudoer on the system
[13:53] <ubuntu> hi
[13:53] <Agrouffff> hello
[13:53] <hellomrjack> jrib: and i have to recompile all of the libs using gcc4.1.2 to make it compatible with the plugin i am using it in
[13:54] <prx> Hmm, wicd cannot connect to my hostapd net using WPA2 PSK, does is take HEX keys of the appropriate length or are the keys interpreted some other way than hex?
[13:54] <qwebirc44173> prx: do not use the latest version it has a bug
[13:54] <qwebirc44173> use the previous one
[13:54] <qwebirc44173> (not april fools joke)
[13:55] <prx> qwebirc44173: I'm using what i get with ubuntu 10.10, i guess the faulty version will be masked? (not shipped, whatever)
[13:55] <ali_> safari46@yahoo.com
[13:55] <ljsoftnet> hello
[13:55] <hellomrjack> jrib: is there a specific variable you need to set so it looks in a alternitive location
[13:55] <guessswh0> what specifically has a bug?
[13:55] <qwebirc44173> prx: just a sec
[13:55] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  hey guy  http://www.delicious.com/dr_willis/ubuntu+tweaks  several links are not loading... are they now gone ?
[13:55] <qwebirc44173> guessswh0: with passwords
[13:56] <prx> qwebirc44173: take your time
[13:56] <guessswh0> oh really, a bug with ubuntu? Interesting
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> prx: I use wicd_1.6.2.2-4_all.deb
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> guessswh0: no, in an application
[13:56] <guessswh0> ah
[13:56] <prx> qwebirc44173: Ic, i have 1.7.0_something
[13:56] <guessswh0> i get you now
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> prx: you can join and talk #wicd
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> guessswh0: do you have a question?
[13:56] <prx> qwebirc44173: thx...
[13:57] <jrib> hellomrjack: you can usually pass alternate locations of libraries to ./configure.  Try ./configure --help
[13:57] <MarconM> who know ppa for the kernel update on ubuntu
[13:57] <guessswh0> no, just wanted to see where the bug lied.  I'm an IT security engineer, and didn't know if there was something I didn't know about
[13:57] <qwebirc44173> it's not a security issue
[13:58] <qwebirc44173> in wicd
[13:58] <qwebirc44173> (ot: I hope  wicd gets VPN support in next release)
[13:58] <hellomrjack> jrib: I have tried all of the options in there
[13:59] <guessswh0> VPN support would be nice
[13:59] <zider_> hello world
[14:00] <guessswh0> NSLog(@"Hi there");
[14:02] <epart> wat is lucyd
[14:02] <epart> ??
[14:02] <epart> anybody knows about it
[14:02] <jrib> hellomrjack: you can « man gcc » and see what environment variables it respects, but all that you should need to do is run ./configure with the proper arguments...
[14:03] <qwebirc44173> !lucid | epart
[14:03] <qwebirc44173> epart: but the current one is called Maverick (10.10)
[14:03] <jrib> hellomrjack: more specifically « man gcc<enter>/ENVIRONMENT<enter> » .  But again, I don't see why passing the location to ./configure didn't work.
[14:04] <qwebirc44173> how can I access cdrom via terminal
[14:04] <qwebirc44173> tried /media/cdrom
[14:04] <qwebirc44173> and /dev/cdrom
[14:04] <prx> qwebirc44173: /dev/sr0?
[14:05] <qwebirc44173> not a directory
[14:05] <qwebirc44173> i need to mount it?
[14:05] <prx> the kernel should detect it... see dmesg | grep sr0
[14:05] <prx> oder dmesg | grep sd
[14:06] <qwebirc44173> yep detected
[14:06] <qwebirc44173> now how do i check the files
[14:06] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: the directory should be in media
[14:06] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: ls -la /media/
[14:06] <prx> mount -t iso9660 /dev/whateveritdetected /media/cdrom
[14:06] <prx> media/cdrom has to exist
[14:07] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: yes there is a cdrom but empty or something
[14:07] <mih1406> I want to remove duplicates from a list in a text file?
[14:07] <ikonia> prx: /media is controlled by hal/dbus on ubuntu, so it will need to create the mount point as hal normally do that for you
[14:07] <prx> ikonia: thx :)
[14:07] <llutz> mih1406: sort -u
[14:07] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: cdrom is not a directory
[14:08] <prx> mih1406: unniq file > newfile
[14:08] <prx> uniq
[14:08] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: pastebin the output of "mount" please
[14:08] <prx> oh, its uniq file newfile
[14:08] <mih1406> Linux is Great!!!
[14:08] <mih1406> but in terminal
[14:08] <qwebirc44173> lol
[14:09] <MarconM> how i can to add ppa kernel on ubuntu
[14:09] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. My web server keeps crashing (10.04 LTS) and I can't figure out why. I've checked the syslogs but they only show data post-crash. Nothing from before the crash is in the syslogs as if they get truncated on startup. I'm really hoping someone smarter than me could point me in the right direction so I could start diagnosing this server.
[14:09] <MarconM> i want to stay on 10.04
[14:09] <ikonia> MarconM: I strongly advise you not to do that
[14:09] <MarconM> ikoni why
[14:09] <ikonia> MarconM: why do you need to update the kernel
[14:09] <ikonia> JeffJassky: what type of crash
[14:09] <MarconM> ikonia: i use ubuntu 10.04.2 lts ok
[14:10] <ganeshalpha> hi pls help :( :( :( :(
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: that's fine, why do you need to update the kernel to a PPA version
[14:10] <MarconM> but i dont want to change my versio
[14:10] <prx> ikonia: If the kernel in 10.10 crashes hard, youll get empty files (which were open and being written to as of the crash)
[14:10] <MarconM> just make update my kernel
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: that's fine, why do you need to update the kernel to a PPA version
[14:10] <ganeshalpha> i jst downloaded ubuntu 11.04 beta 1 and made a usb stick
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: why ? what do you need in the new kernel
[14:10] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Everything just seems to stop. can't ssh, apache doesn't respond, can't FTP.. until I do a hard reboot and everything comes back online as normal.
[14:10] <MarconM> ikonia: i have to add ppa
[14:10] <mm2000> hello. what is the next LTS?
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: why
[14:10] <ganeshalpha> it boots fine in myd desktop
[14:10] <ikonia> JeffJassky: do you have console access to the machine, or is it remove
[14:11] <ikonia> remote
[14:11] <MarconM> ikonia: whem i make upgrade ... it ll update just the kernel
[14:11] <ganeshalpha> but it takes forever to load in laptop
[14:11] <ganeshalpha> :(\
[14:11] <JeffJassky> ikonia: it's remote. Rackspace hosts it.
[14:11] <MarconM> it i dont do that my kernel dont change
[14:11] <ganeshalpha> pls help
[14:11] <ikonia> MarconM: I'll ask again, why do you need to update the kernel
[14:11] <ikonia> JeffJassky: is it a physical server or a virtual ?
[14:11] <mm2000> hello. what is the next LTS?
[14:11] <JeffJassky> ikonia: virtual.
[14:12] <MarconM> ikonia: do u know the ppa kernel
[14:12] <ikonia> MarconM: yes
[14:12] <ganeshalpha> 12.04 will be lts
[14:12] <qwebirc44173> ok i mounted the cdrom :)
[14:12] <MarconM> ikonia: do u can say me
[14:12] <ikonia> JeffJassky: can you get to that server now ?
[14:12] <qwebirc44173> sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 or cdrom
[14:12] <ikonia> MarconM: why do you need to upgrade the kernel to a PPA version ?
[14:12] <JeffJassky> ikonia: yes i have full access to it
[14:12] <qwebirc44173> one of those worked
[14:12] <ruan> i think there's an LTS every 2 years, supported for 3 years
[14:12] <ikonia> JeffJassky: can you connect to it and post me the output of "uname -a" please ?
[14:13] <ikonia> JeffJassky: change the hostname if you are worried about posting it
[14:13] <JeffJassky> nah it's alright-- Linux guruz.us 2.6.35.4-rscloud #8 SMP Mon Sep 20 15:54:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:13] <mih1406> i want to replace every space with a newline
[14:13] <qwebirc44173> umount: /media/cdrom: device is busy
[14:13] <mih1406> in a text file
[14:13] <ikonia> JeffJassky: ok - this isn't a palm off but advice, that is a modified version of ubuntu (see the kernel version - it's not an ubuntu stock kernel) if the machine is locking its a big possability it's down to the changes rackspace have made
[14:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: contact rack space and log a support call explaining this, and let them deal with it, as it's their modified ubuntu version
[14:14] <llutz> mih1406: use sed or tr
[14:14] <randomuser> mih1406, http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[14:14] <edoctoor> Is there a way to transfer my Grub2 from the D: drive to the C: drive?
[14:14] <mih1406> Hey you all, do you really memorieze all linux commands??????
[14:14] <ruan> mih1406: yes
[14:14] <wnoronha> Hello
[14:14] <qwebirc44173> ok unmouted cdrom after leave its dir :)
[14:15] <randomuser> mih1406, not sure how to do a newline there, but that's your program
[14:15] <mih1406> I am using Ubuntu since 2007 but I do not memorize any
[14:15] <ahox> mih1406: and for the commandswitches, we memorized the man command ;-)
[14:15] <JeffJassky> ikonia: I really don't think it's a rackspace problem. It only started happening after I installed a number of pieces of software a few weeks ago and it seems to crash about once a day or every other day.. I definitely feel that it's a software conflict or configuration issue causing the system to crash.
[14:15] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: don't need a running commentory
[14:15] <mih1406> do you memorize them just like memorizing poems in school?
[14:15] <qwebirc44173> hehe
[14:15] <ikonia> JeffJassky: ok - but the version of the OS you are using is mofidied, so there isn't a guartentee of compatability with ubuntu packages
[14:16] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Ahh I see what you're saying
[14:16] <ahox> I usually try to memorize the meaning of the command, as in ls = list, sed=stream editor, etc
[14:16] <ikonia> JeffJassky: they however will have the hypervisor logs and can suggest why it's locking up, or even check the console for error messages, we can't
[14:16] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Darn really? there's not even a way to get crash logs or anything?
[14:16] <ahox> btw, is there a fusefs or something like it for the amazon storage cloud?
[14:16] <mih1406> I will start from now to memorize them
[14:16] <epart> ubottu: thnks for the info.. i have a PABX server.. asterisk and im using the 10.01.04 lucyd..
[14:17] <ikonia> JeffJassky: there is, but it would be better to get their logs
[14:17] <ikonia> JeffJassky: the crash logs could show the symptoms rather than the fault
[14:17] <ikonia> JeffJassky: their logs will show the fault
[14:17] <edoctoor> can the bootloader ummm.. I mean the grub2 be created on the C: drive or drive zero?
[14:17] <edoctoor> if so how?
[14:17] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Gotchya. I somehow doubt they would actually supply them to me.. so I'd like to find out as much as I can on my end before contacting them..
[14:18] <randomuser> mih1406, with some things, when you find it, it is so useful that you spend time learning it and get exited about how it can help. Once you know how t eat with a fork instead of fingers, you dont forget its name...
[14:18] <ikonia> JeffJassky: I think they will, this is their job
[14:18] <ruan> edoctoor: yes, by installing grub on it and changing boot priority
[14:18] <dyd> i have a problem with backup: at this poing /host/ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.tar it gives this error tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[14:18] <dyd> *point
[14:18] <JeffJassky> ikonia: I'll give it a try.. but in the mean time how would I go about finding out as much as I can before I call them?
[14:19] <bazhang> dyd, wubi install?
[14:19] <edoctoor> Ok, so how to I install grub2 on C:? and thank you ruan for your help
[14:19] <ikonia> JeffJassky: calling them is the first step
[14:19] <ikonia> JeffJassky: call them and explain the symptomes
[14:19] <Abhijit> hi
[14:19] <dyd> bazhang: yes!
[14:20] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Alright i'll do that. So there's nothing in /var/log that would maybe he helpful for me to know?
[14:20] <ikonia> JeffJassky: you'll get more worth while info from 3 lines of the hypervisor log, or the error message on screen when it hangs than anything else
[14:21] <almoxarife> dyd: you are backing up the whole of ubuntu install?
[14:21] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Well the thing is - it's not hanging.. and I don't know how to induce the hanging.. and I really can't afford for it to hang again because I have about 20 clients websites hosted on it and they're getting pretty upset with me. But if I call them even now do you think they would have logs from the previous crash?
[14:22] <dyd> almoxarife: i just want to backup all the disk, but i don't need installation files. are host/ubuntu/winboot/ installation files?
[14:22] <ikonia> JeffJassky: I don't know, and with all respect in the world, if this is a business machine you should have it prepared better and no more about what your doing
[14:22] <jichunjian> the what
[14:22] <dyd> i used this command:  sudo tar cvpzf /media/LaCie/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/media/LaCie/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[14:22] <ikonia> JeffJassky: your best bet is to log a call with them, and leave it open, then when it next hangs, contact them for the logs/error message on screen, then trouble shoot it from that
[14:23] <almoxarife> dyd: yes, the wubi install created them
[14:23] <ikonia> JeffJassky: if you can't deal with that, I suggest uninstalling all the software you installed before it created a problem
[14:23] <dyd> (i know that --exclude=/media/LaCie/backup.tgz can be removed)
[14:23] <dyd> so i can just --exclude that folder?
[14:23] <almoxarife> dyd: you are backing up within ubuntu?
[14:23] <dyd> almoxarife: yes
[14:24] <Pirsch> Hello
[14:24] <edoctoor> PLEASE HELP, me install grub2 (Ubuntu 10.10 grub) to my first drive!!!
[14:24] <ikonia> !grub2 > edoctoor
[14:24] <almoxarife> dyd: I would think that backing up your home directory/folder should do it, everything else would be an install?
[14:24] <salihk> hello guys, i am using ubuntu 10.10 and i installed unity 2d on it but when i try to boot with unity 2d it loads very slowly actually i wait 1 or 2 minutes after the desktop is showed up. I read ubuntu 11.04 comes with unity i wonder that if i upgrade to 11.04 will i suffer same problem did you try it ? what is your impression ? thanks
[14:25] <edoctoor> Thank you...
[14:25] <edoctoor> ubottu, Thank you
[14:25] <dyd> almoxarife: doing that will keep my desktop settings and other so preferences once i restore the backup on a fresh ubuntu installation?
[14:25] <jichunjian> ah nobody is here
[14:26] <Pirsch> I'm using Ubuntu 64. Is there any issues with using KDE programs in Gnome?
[14:26] <edoctoor> ubottu you have given me a link that I was asking for... that makes you Awesome in my books
[14:26] <Pirsch> ikonia: Hi.  I'm using Ubuntu 64. Are there any issues with using KDE programs in Gnome?
[14:26] <almoxarife> dyd: it should yes, I also backup /etc because I tweaked some confs
[14:26] <ikonia> Pirsch: why are you asking me ?
[14:26] <dyd> almoxarife: thank you, i'll try that
[14:27] <Pirsch> ikonia: cause I've been here before and found you to be quite helpful.
[14:27] <ikonia> JeffJassky: 1400+ people in here
[14:27] <coz_> jichunjian,  you cannot see this?
[14:27] <ikonia> Pirsch: using KDE applications in gnome is not ideal as it's a different graphics engine, but should work fine
[14:27] <n2i> Hi! Please help me to fix this error: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: midori is broken or not fully installed
[14:27] <Pirsch> ikonia: Ok, thanks. That's all I needed,... today. :-)
[14:28] <salihk> no idea ? strange :)
[14:30] <SupeR_NovA> How can I install nvida a live cd 10.10 beta as a test
[14:30] <SupeR_NovA> ?
[14:30] <ikonia> SupeR_NovA: same as a desktop install
[14:30] <almoxarife> n2i: synaptic should fix it
[14:30] <ikonia> SupeR_NovA: however you may have problems as a reboot is needed
[14:30] <n2i> almoxarife: really? how to?
[14:31] <Stava> How can I set up a umask for an ext4 partition?
[14:31] <n2i> I cannot open synaptic :'(
[14:31] <almoxarife> n2i: can't why?
[14:32] <ikonia> Stava: same as any other partition, the umask command
[14:32] <n2i> almoxarife: there is and error mess: E: The package midori needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[14:32] <n2i> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[14:32] <Stava> ikonia, im pretty sure that the man page says that only fat/ntfs may have umask
[14:32] <ikonia> Stava: they don't
[14:32] <Stava> ikonia, oh, cool, thanks
[14:32] <ikonia> type "umask" and you can see your users mask
[14:32] <SuNotisima> howhi
[14:32] <SupeR_NovA> ikonia, trick ??!?!
[14:32] <ikonia> SupeR_NovA: what ?
[14:33] <SuNotisima> morning, I need my modem's /dev/ id for wvdial connection. I don't know how I fond it
[14:33] <Stava> ikonia, I want one umask for /home (is a partition) and one for the rest of the system (/etc/profile)
[14:33] <ikonia> Stava: umasks are user based, not partition/milesystem based
[14:33] <ikonia> Stava: man umask
[14:34] <Stava> ikonia, the root of my problems is that i want 077 or 022 umask in /home and 000 or 002 everywhere else (shared locations)
[14:34] <ikonia> Stava: ok, as I said, umask is a user based thing, not file system
[14:35] <qwebirc44173> hahaha, poweroff works in archlinux
[14:35] <n2i> This is what I get when try to install midori http://paste.ubuntu.com/588245/
[14:35] <bazhang> !ot > qwebirc44173
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> bazhang: not offtopic because it's related with my problem I have in ubuntu
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> :)
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> it's just the a conclusion
[14:36] <bazhang> qwebirc44173, save the running commentary
[14:36] <ikonia> n2i: remove the http://paste.ubuntu.com/588245/
[14:36] <ikonia> oops
[14:36] <ikonia> n2i: remove the file from /var/cache/apt/archives and try again
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> bazhang: sudo poweroff does not working in ubuntu maverick but works in archlinux.
[14:37] <qwebirc44173> anyway
[14:37] <iceroot> qwebirc44173: halt
[14:37] <ikonia> !info midori
[14:37] <qwebirc44173> iceroot: not a change in ubuntu :)
[14:37] <qwebirc44173> im gonna try another version
[14:38] <SuNotisima> how do I find my 3g modem's /dev/ address?
[14:38] <n2i> ikonia: I have removed it from /var/cache..
[14:38] <iceroot> qwebirc44173: ? you are searching for a way to shutdown the pc from the cli?
[14:38] <gordonjcp> SuNotisima: when you plug it in, look at the output of dmesg
[14:38] <ikonia> n2i: try to install again
[14:38] <n2i> But still get that error :(
[14:39] <ikonia> n2i: remove the package from the cache archives again, so sudo apt-get update first, then sudo apt-get install for the package
[14:39] <SuNotisima> gordonjcp: it is plugged in (internal)
[14:39] <qwebirc44173> iceroot: the problem are not the commands, it's the kernel. check #ubuntu logs if you want to know my problem bye
[14:39] <gordonjcp> in 10.04, how can I replace the "volume control" at the top with one that actually... controls the volume?
[14:39] <n2i> ikonia: yes, I'm doing it now
[14:39] <ikonia> n2i: ok
[14:39] <iceroot> qwebirc44173: sorry i dont search the whole logs for a problem which i never saw on any machine
[14:40] <qwebirc44173> too bad
[14:40] <SuNotisima> i do find it in lsusb, but not in dmesg? possible?
[14:40] <n2i> nooooo...I also get error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/midori_0.3.3-0.1~llwkt1_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 127
[14:41] <ikonia> n2i: what command caused that problem ?
[14:41] <n2i> sudo apt-get install midori
[14:42] <ikonia> n2i: looks like a bug with that package then
[14:42] <n2i> no, that is sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:42] <ikonia> n2i: what version of ubuntu
[14:42] <ruan> n2i: what happens if you try installing it with aptitude?
[14:42] <n2i> ikonia: Lucid
[14:42] <ikonia> !info dpkg-maintscript-helper
[14:42] <ikonia> rats
[14:43] <ikonia> !info midori lucid
[14:43] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday01april2011-070802ist.php WHY this happens with exaile ?
[14:43] <n2i> ikonia: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/588251/
[14:44] <ruan> !find dpkg-maintscript
[14:44] <ruan> !find dpkg-maintscript-helper
[14:44] <ikonia> n2i: where are you getting that package from
[14:44] <n2i> ikonia: I have added midori ppa
[14:45] <ikonia> n2i: there you go then, nothing to do with ubuntu, contact the PPA maintainer
[14:45] <ikonia> n2i: why don't you use the version in the ubuntu repo
[14:45] <n2i> ikonia: I wanna newer version :(
[14:45] <ikonia> n2i: ok, contact the PPA maintainer then, PPA's are not supported and use at your own risk
[14:46] <ruan> !latest
[14:46] <thauriswulfa> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday01april2011-070802ist.php
[14:46] <ikonia> thauriswulfa: you've already posted that, please stop
[14:47] <thauriswulfa> k
[14:48] <n2i> ikonia: so..there is no way to fix now? :(
[14:48] <ikonia> n2i: we don't support it, contact the PPA maintainer
[14:50] <n2i> ikonia: yes, I see! Thank you!
[14:52] <genjix> anybody know how to view system emails?
[14:53] <ikonia> genjix: system emails ?
[14:53] <genjix> yeah like from cron
[14:53] <ikonia> genjix: do you mean emails that are sent to root for example ?
[14:53] <ikonia> genjix: "sudo mail"
[14:54] <genjix> on my local machine, i get emails sent to mutt
[14:54] <genjix> i want to read the crontab emails on the remote machine :p
[14:54] <ikonia> genjix: login to the remote machine and type "sudo mail"
[14:55] <genjix> ok so i need mailutils
[14:55] <genjix> thanks
[14:55] <ikonia> just login to the remote machine and type "sudo mail" that's it
[14:55] <genjix> mail doesn't exist.
[14:55] <ikonia> should do
[14:55] <ikonia> installed by default I thought
[14:55] <desero> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on a PowerBook G4 and double clicking on the thouchpad works like a rightclicking when in Gnome, but if i try using it in XFCE4 nothing happens.
[14:56] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Thanks for the help. Rackspace didn't have any console logs or anything they could go over with me but they did make a few suggestions. He said that the symptoms seemed indicative of running out of memory? also showed me how to access older (pre-crash) logs and showed me a service i can use to monitor my server with email alerts and such
[14:56] <ikonia> JeffJassky: that's nonsense
[14:56] <CookieMonster> i want a working tv viewer for my philips tv chip tv tuner  anyone one
[14:56] <ikonia> JeffJassky: it won't be out of memory fromt he symptoms you've said
[14:56] <desero> What is the difference of running XFCE4 and Gnome, do they run a different xorg.conf or something?
[14:56] <JeffJassky> ikonia: no?
[14:57] <ikonia> desero: totally different desktop setups
[14:57] <desero> ikonia: yes, but don't they use the same xorg.conf?
[14:57] <ikonia> JeffJassky: see what happens
[14:57] <ikonia> desero: xorg.conf isn't used
[14:58] <genjix> thanks ikonia, that worked.
[14:58] <ikonia> genjix: mega,
[14:58] <genjix> i had to install mailutils then run 'mail' :)
[14:58] <genjix> fyi
[14:58] <SupeR_NovA> How can I install nvida a live cd 10.10 beta as a test
[14:58] <randomuser> desero, it's really easy to install xfce, log out, and log mack in with it . Just see what it does.
[14:58] <tycable> Hello, what's the meaning of 'ctl' int the 'sysctl' command, please?
[14:58] <ikonia> genjix: surprised not install by default, but hey ho
[14:58] <JeffJassky> ikonia: using the 'free' command I get: Mem - total: 508272, used:429912, free:78360
[14:58] <genjix> ubuntu server edition
[14:58] <genjix> not desktop
[14:58] <ikonia> JeffJassky: no surprised there
[14:58] <desero> randomuser: what do you mean by "log mack" with it?
[14:59] <terry> desero: ikonia xorg.conf is used if it is there, but it does not exist by default.  When third party video drivers are installed, (like Nvidia ones), xorg.conf is created in order to run the third party driver.
[14:59] <JeffJassky> ikonia: is that safe enough?
[14:59] <ikonia> genjix: even more reason for it to be there by default
[14:59] <ikonia> JeffJassky: tons free there
[14:59] <genjix> l
[14:59] <genjix> k
[14:59] <ruan> desero: back
[14:59] <desero> lol, sorry :)
[14:59] <randomuser> desero, i mean install the xfce package group, and log out of your user account. on the bottom of the login screen you can choose your desktop environment, choose xfce
[15:00] <desero> I have tried logging in and out and comparing the different applicatins running in the background.
[15:00] <DirtyDawg> i did tah ^ and it still used the same amount of memory as the ubuntu desktop (gnome) i thought xfce was supposed to be faster
[15:00] <desero> I am pretty sure, this has something to do with synaptics driver wich enables this touchpad behavior.
[15:01] <ikonia> desero: doubtul, more likley your desktop
[15:01] <tycable> hello, what's the meaning of 'ctl' in the command 'sysctl'?
[15:01] <ikonia> tycable: control, it's just a command name, it means nothing in reality
[15:02] <tycable> ikonia, and I know the apache also has a command named 'apache2ctl', so I feel it may have some meaning.
[15:03] <ikonia> tycable: they are just command names
[15:03] <desero> ikonia: i found some config files for X in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, one of which is named 60-magictrackpad.conf
[15:03] <desero> and then 50-synaptics.conf
[15:03] <magnushc> Im running gnome environment, is there a way to remove the global menu bar for kde applications?
[15:03] <desero> I think they have something to do with this.
[15:03] <tycable> ikonia, thanks, I got it.
[15:03] <randomuser> desero, sorry, i missed your initial question; i thought you were simply curious about desktop environments.  input devices are handled by HAL these days, odd that you'd have issues with a differend environment
[15:03] <ikonia> desero: it's unlikey to be X as it works in one desktop but not the other and they both use the same X setup
[15:04] <desero> That is what I thought, but I can't find any application running on Gnome that is not running in XFCE4 which would handle this behavior.
[15:05] <randomuser> desero, try something like lxde, maybe. Its not that bad.
[15:05] <desero> I thought maybe that Ubuntu runs different xorg.conf files for different environments.
[15:05] <pratheep> !bot
[15:05] <ikonia> desero: no, xorg has nothing to do with the enviornment
[15:05] <randomuser> desero, then again, ubuntu's gnome implementation is hardly standard
[15:05] <UDPError> Hey guys. So I've already asked this question but I had to make sure it's the right answer. I have a dual booted system running Windows 7 and Fedora 13. I want to change Fedora for Ubuntu however, Fedora is a LVM.. Can I still use the Ubuntu Live CD to replace Fedora? is there a certain thing I need to do
[15:05] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Do you know of any particularly good books I could pick up on ubuntu server administration?
[15:06] <ikonia> JeffJassky: not really,
[15:06] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Any particularly good websites with walk-through tutorials targeted towards newcomers?
[15:06] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[15:06] <d3vic3> @jeffjassky : http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Ubuntu-Server-Administration-Professional/dp/1590599233
[15:07] <bazhang> !manual > JeffJassky
[15:07] <JeffJassky> d3vic3: Thanks.. yeah saw that book.. a few people said it was a little off..
[15:07] <SuNotisima> how can I find my 3g modem's /dev/ id?
[15:07] <ikonia> SuNotisima: why do you need it ?
[15:08] <JeffJassky> bazhang thanks - though I'm looking for more server related information. I'm not running a gui unubtu.
[15:08] <SuNotisima> I need to connect with wvdial/commandline
[15:08] <SuNotisima> need it for my wvdial.conf
[15:08] <desero> randomuser: i'm not sure that would fix the problem, I also tried icewm, double padding the touchpad doesn't work there either.
[15:08] <ikonia> SuNotisima: dmesg should show it when you plug it in
[15:08] <desero> ikonia: any ideas on that application would control the behavior of the touchpad?
[15:08] <desero> s/that/what
[15:08] <ikonia> desero: the desktop
[15:09] <desero> ikonia: Gnome it self?
[15:09] <SuNotisima> ikonia: it's internal, I can't "plug it in" :/ i find it in lsusb, but not in dmesg
[15:09] <ikonia> or xfce
[15:09] <ikonia> SuNotisima: odd that it's internal if it's usb
[15:10] <ikonia> SuNotisima: it may not have a device file if it's not supported in linux
[15:10] <ikonia> SuNotisima: do you know if it's supported in linux
[15:10] <SuNotisima> ikonia: it did work like a charm with networkmanager, but nm sure sucks dockey d*ck
[15:10] <SuNotisima> and gas stopped working
[15:10] <pcpower> lol
[15:10] <SuNotisima> *has
[15:10] <ikonia> SuNotisima: if you need to star out a word, don't use it
[15:10] <pcpower> I just disable it
[15:11] <pcpower> but then it makes firefox startup in offline mode
[15:11] <pcpower> every time
[15:11] <rigved> UDPError: afaik, carry on with the steps that you had listed.
[15:11] <ikonia> SuNotisima: if you do ifconfig -a does it show up ?
[15:11] <SuNotisima> ikonia: nope
[15:12] <SuNotisima> i got eth0, lo, wlan0 and wwan0
[15:12] <JeffJassky> How can I read zipped logs? like syslog.2.gz
[15:12] <ikonia> what's wwman0 ?
[15:12] <ZarroBoogs> JeffJassky: zless
[15:12] <ikonia> JeffJassky: unzip them or use zcat
[15:12] <SuNotisima> ikonia: i don't know
[15:12] <pcpower> or vim
[15:13] <ikonia> pcpower: vim won't do compression
[15:13] <SuNotisima> ikonia: well it may be 3g
[15:13] <desero> ikonia: haha, you were, right, I was overcomplicating things like usually. :)
[15:13] <iceroot> JeffJassky: zless
[15:13] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Thanks. And if I wanted to download my entire /var directory to my local machine what would be the easiest way to do that? zip -r /var/log myLogFiles, move it to my apache document root and download it?
[15:13] <JeffJassky> *var/log directory
[15:13] <ikonia> JeffJassky: tar it up, gzip compress it, scp/ftp/http download it
[15:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: you don't really want all your var directory though
[15:14] <JeffJassky> ikonia: yeah I meant my /var/log directory
[15:14] <desero> ikonia: I can select different mouse devices under XFCE4 settings.
[15:14] <bazhang> dir hi
[15:14] <dir> bazhang: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
[15:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: you don't want all your /var/log directory
[15:14] <JeffJassky> ikonia: I really appreciate your help today. I feel like I've already learned a lot..
[15:14] <pratheep> sory dir is not more
[15:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: not a problem
[15:15] <bazhang> pratheep, please remove it now
[15:15] <pratheep> how i remove
[15:15] <pratheep> sory
[15:15] <bazhang> pratheep, or I will
[15:16] <SuNotisima> it must be wwan0 then, but I didn't find the /dev/ id yet
[15:17] <ikonia> SuNotisima: network cards don't have device files in /dev
[15:17] <SuNotisima> where is it then?
[15:18] <SuNotisima> i always thought it was there, because /dev/ttyusb* and all those are there too
[15:18] <llutz> SuNotisima: mine (option 3g) uses /dev/ttyHS0 (..HS3)
[15:18] <skywu>  :)
[15:19] <llutz> SuNotisima: usb 0af0:7601 (vid-pid)
[15:19] <SuNotisima> llutz: thanks but mine tells me "no suhc file or directory"
[15:20] <llutz> SuNotisima: ls -l /dev/tty*                 something related maybe? some modems(?) use ttyACMx
[15:20] <SuNotisima> tried that before, no luck :(
[15:21] <SuNotisima> tried ACM*, USB* …
[15:21] <janolap1> Hi, I would like to know how I can configure my ubuntu server (10.10) to resolv the FQDN name of my other computers. I can do it from another ubuntu box (8.04), but I can't remember how I did this...
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:22] <meganerdca> janolap1: you could put entries in /etc/hosts
[15:22] <sagi_> hi
[15:22] <meganerdca> janolap1: you could also setup a DNS server on your LAN, probably overkill... probably
[15:23] <pcpower> you could use WINS
[15:23] <janolap1> meganerdca : Ok, but on the other box, I didn't do that ...
[15:23] <sagi_> Can anybody tell , once i have restored my unbuntu virtual to a previous snapshot, how to recover files ?
[15:23] <sagi_> :(
[15:23] <guampa> WINS is deprecated
[15:23] <ddbt_nl> does anyone here why elementary os looks so sharp compared to the soft look of ubuntu natty?
[15:23] <SuNotisima> can't I display the device id with some command?
[15:23] <janolap1> pcpower WINS ?
[15:23] <sagi_> I have lost files after recovering the snapshot
[15:23] <sagi_> HELP
[15:23] <llutz> SuNotisima: lsusb
[15:23] <SuNotisima> yeah, but I need the address
[15:24] <SuNotisima> /dev/* or alike
[15:24] <bazhang> ddbt_nl, thats offtopic here as its not a supported derivative
[15:24] <janolap1> meganerdca : There's already a DNS on the LAN. But when I type "ping proxy" for example, my new server doesn't resolve
[15:24] <guampa> ddbt_nl: that's a guru question, might want to ask in ##linux
[15:25] <janolap1> meganerdca : but the old one does !
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: is this a business LAN?
[15:25] <janolap1> meganerdca : yes
[15:25] <llutz> SuNotisima: what model/make is it (usb-id)?
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: check /etc/resolv.conf
[15:25] <janolap1> It's the same ont the 2 hosts
[15:25] <ddbt_nl> guampa: why is that a guru q?
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: there should be a line that says "search my.domain.tld"
[15:25] <sagi_> ?
[15:25] <SuNotisima> llutz: it's a ericsson F3507g (0bdb:1900)
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: also make sure that nameserver line points to the proper name servers
[15:26] <SuNotisima> internal 3g modem in my lenovo s10
[15:26] <janolap1> meganerdca : it's the same ont the 2 hosts, and serach my.domain.tld is present (with the good value)
[15:26] <guampa> ddbt_nl: dunno. just seemed to me
[15:26] <ddbt_nl> guampa: did you notice that difference too?
[15:26] <magnushc> Does anyone like the global menu bar, that is not sitting on a netbook?
[15:26] <bazhang> !ot | ddbt_nl
[15:26] <ZarroBoogs> sagi_: I'd guess that any changes are completely lost.  I'd ask the support of whatever virtualization product you're using though.
[15:26] <bazhang> ddbt_nl, please ask in their support forums.
[15:26] <meganerdca> janolap1: what happens when you type "host proxy"
[15:27] <llutz> SuNotisima: it "should" have /dev/ttyACMx        http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ericsson_F3507g_Mobile_Broadband_Module
[15:27] <janolap1> meganerdca : I'm trying
[15:27] <meganerdca> janolap1: then compare to "host proxy <ip of dns server>"
[15:27] <llutz> SuNotisima: grep CONFIG_USB_ACM /boot/config-$(uname-r)
[15:27] <ZarroBoogs> sagi_: If its virtualbox, their support is in #vbox
[15:28] <desero> thanks :9
[15:28] <prx> ok, wicd (even latest prerelease) cannot connect to my WLAN... how can i get my networkmanager panel icon back? starting it from a console shows me "** (nm-applet:10306): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager." dbus however is up and running
[15:28] <llutz> SuNotisima: ls -l /dev/cdc-wdm0
[15:28] <janolap1> meganerdca : I'm reinstalling the system, hold on 2 minutes...
[15:28] <meganerdca> janolap1: ok
[15:29] <SuNotisima> llutz: ACM1: ATZ / ERROR / Bad init string. — ACM2: ATZ / Sending: ATQ0 / Re-Sending: ATZ / Modem not responding
[15:29] <quiel> hi, does anyone know if there is a way to show the battery status of a connected android device in ubuntu?
[15:29] <meganerdca> janolap1: I am going to go and get a coffee, BRB
[15:29] <SuNotisima> ATM3: no such file…
[15:29] <JeffJassky> hey, guys. how can I see what time my server is set to through SSH?
[15:29] <SuNotisima> *ACM
[15:29] <ZarroBoogs> JeffJassky: date
[15:29] <meganerdca> JeffJassky: type "date"
[15:29] <llutz> SuNotisima: ACM1 responds at least, so there is "something"
[15:30] <SuNotisima> llutz: ACM2 goes one step further but also fails
[15:31] <dorgan> anyone going to BarCamp tomorrow?
[15:31] <ikonia> dorgan: nothing to do with ubuntu, so offtopic here
[15:31] <dorgan> oops wrong channel
[15:31] <dorgan> lol
[15:31] <dorgan> sorry
[15:31] <ikonia> dorgan: not a problem
[15:32] <cognac-gamma> re I need a wee help with wireless, works everywhere else just in the new flat not now i'm on wired
[15:32] <dec3pti0n> how come ubuntu doesn't come with xen kernel like debian does ?
[15:32] <ikonia> dec3pti0n: xen isn't the selected hypervisor, you can install it if you want it
[15:32] <dec3pti0n> ikonia: kvm is I assume ?
[15:33] <cognac-gamma> just made iwlist scan if it helps
[15:33] <dec3pti0n>  are there pkgs somewhere for it ? or needs source install and new kernel compiled ? from what I have found on docs kind of looks that way
[15:34] <SuNotisima> llutz: that manual page you sent me says I need to "send commands to /dev/ttyACM1" and I can use "any terminal terminal program like cu or minicom" - I don't have either of these?
[15:34] <Potter> hi
[15:34] <Potter> there
[15:34] <deshymers> I've got an issue where my desktop is bigger then my monitor, I am using ubuntu 10.10 and the latest 260 nvidia drivers, I've tried editing the xorg.conf file and changing the resolution in the nvidia config manager, any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:34] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: what kind of problems are you having?
[15:35] <rigved> deshymers: which ubuntu version are you using? it is recommended to use the default nvidia drivers that come with your ubuntu version
[15:35] <randomuser> deshymers, have you attempted adjusting your display to a larger size?
[15:36] <llutz> SuNotisima: apt-get install minicom    sry have to go, good luck
[15:36] <SuNotisima> llutz: kthx
[15:36] <deshymers> rigved: 10.10 and latest nvidia driver
[15:36] <SuNotisima> can't install though, netbook is offline
[15:36] <deshymers> randomuser: yes bigger and smaller
[15:36] <HackeMate> hello, i am trying to recover grub after installing windows
[15:36] <HackeMate> i go to a livecd and i execute these commands
[15:37] <meganerdca> SuNotisima: do you have gtkterm installed?
[15:37] <HackeMate> sudo mkdir /mnt/sda2; sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda3; sudo chroot /mnt/sda3
[15:37] <HackeMate> and the last command fails
[15:37] <randomuser> deshymers, the phisical display. have you looked at the settings on the monitor itself, maybe an auto adjust?
[15:37] <HackeMate> it says chroot cannot run command /bin/bash
[15:37] <Wanda> gretong gretong
[15:38] <randomuser> HackeMate, is bash installed on sda3?
[15:38] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: iwlist scan output helps?
[15:38] <rigved> deshymers: and what about the nvidia config settings manager. there's one that comes with the nvidia drivers
[15:38] <HackeMate> randomuser: i believe so, is the linux partition
[15:38] <deshymers> randomuser: I cant because it is greyed out on my monitor viewsonic vx2835
[15:38] <deshymers> rigved: yes I've tried that manager
[15:38] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: cannot connet to the wireless network, tried to troubleshoot, got no idea
[15:38] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: well, I guest first is what  exactly are you trying to do, and what is the problem.
[15:38] <rigved> deshymers: System > Administration > NVIDIA X Server Settings
[15:39] <rigved> deshymers: ok
[15:39] <randomuser> deshymers, try moving your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup (so the system has to make a new one) then log out and back in
[15:39] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: you could paste it into pastebin.ubuntu.com, but I don't know what I am looking for
[15:39] <deshymers> randomuser: I've tried that before but I will do it again
[15:39] <Zealous> i got a question, is it possible to make a shell script that would open firefox using a proxy and then close it and open another one using a different proxy
[15:39] <randomuser> try removing it, running nvidia-xconfig, then restart gdm
[15:40] <deshymers> randomuser: ok
[15:40] <timposey> I am trying to change my password back to a password that I used in the past, but Ubuntu will not let me, how can I change this?
[15:40] <Guest39723> oneconf lucid?
[15:41] <Anon45356765434> hackemate: what about imstalling grub from cd?
[15:41] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: i pasted it there
[15:41] <HackeMate> im doing it from a live cd, i thought its the way
[15:41] <deshymers> randomuser: no dice same issue
[15:41] <HackeMate> i fixed the chroot, the home and the dev were mounted in different patitions
[15:41] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: cant be a driver issue cos everywhere else wireless works fine
[15:42] <Guest39723> grub , cd, ? reinstall it >?
[15:42] <HackeMate> i have the prompt now, and i try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda and it says grub-probe cant find a device for /boot/grub
[15:42] <deshymers> randomuser: its not liek when the resolution is to big and you can scroll around the desktop with your mouse, its like 30px or so to big all around
[15:42] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: are you using network manager to configure the wifi network?
[15:42] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: ty for your attention anyhow
[15:42] <cognac-gamma> yep
[15:42] <Guest39723> is there any package for fixing grub ?
[15:43] <cognac-gamma> tried wifi radar, doesn't help
[15:43] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: anything in /var/log/daemon.log that might indicate the problem?
[15:43] <cognac-gamma> megandrca: i've triesd wifi radar, doesn't help
[15:44] <Guest39723> i need such oneconf sync for lucid
[15:44] <S74rk7> anyone know off-hand what the difference of an Ubuntu-Alternate dvd compared to the Ubuntu-Desktop??
[15:44] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: I have never used wifi radar
[15:45] <meganerdca> S74rk7: it is a text based installer instead of the GUI one
[15:45] <Abhijit> hi
[15:45] <Abhijit> help. this error while trying to compile lifeograph latest version http://pastebin.com/d7TB1ZV5
[15:45] <Abhijit> help
[15:45] <meganerdca>  S74rk7 it is based off of the Debian installer.  I prefer it actually.
[15:45] <Guest39723> alternate dvd?
[15:45] <S74rk7> meganerdca: more configuration available?
[15:46] <meganerdca> S74rk7: there used to be some differences, like like whole disk encyption.  I don't know if this is still the case.
[15:47] <S74rk7> meganerdca: Excellent... its the option to encrypt different partitions etc I am looking for... on the GUI Installs of ubuntu + kubuntu I seem to only have the option to encrypt the whole folder
[15:47] <Guest39723> how+repairing+grub+simple
[15:48] <BluesKaj> S74rk7, the alternate install allows encryption of various ext partitions
[15:48] <randomuser> deshymers,  try xvidtune
[15:49] <cognac-gamma> megandrca:  sent to pastbin the log
[15:49] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: you will have to put the url in a message here
[15:49] <S74rk7> Guest39723: Alternate dvd... when you are downloading your distro of linux - be it ubuntu, kubuntu etc if you looks there was an iso called "Alternate" - I've been told its a text based install - rather than the GUI version on the Desktop versions of the distros...
[15:50] <deshymers> randomuser: ok I'll give it a go, thanks
[15:50] <cognac-gamma> megandrca:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588277/
[15:50] <S74rk7> BluesKaj: excellent... thanks mate
[15:50] <cognac-gamma> megandrca:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588272/
[15:51] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: looks like a problem with the saleem1234 nm profile.  Delete it then recreate it.
[15:52] <S74rk7> I have 4GB RAM - I read in a few articles that you should make your swap area at least twice the size of your available ram... so I've an 8GB Swap area - does this all sound ok? or have you guys anything I should watch out for?
[15:53] <erUSUL> S74rk7: no; it is not ok. the twice as much swap as ram is a rule from the last century when you had 16 o 32 MiB of RAM ....
[15:53] <DJones> S74rk7: The double your memory for swap size goes back a few years when computers had lower amounts of memory
[15:53] <meganerdca> S74rk7: the 2x RAM size is not that usefull anymore given how much RAM we typically have
[15:54] <cognac-gamma> megandrca: thanks, but tried already
[15:54] <meganerdca> S74rk7: of course given the size of most hard drives it does not really matter
[15:54] <ZarroBoogs> S74rk7: Unless this is a computer that you plan to hibernate on, you won't need that much swap.
[15:54] <timposey> I am trying to change my password back to a password that I used in the past, but Ubuntu will not let me.  It is saying that the new password is too similar, how can I change this?
[15:54] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: there is not a lot of info that log snippet.  Is this a wpa protected AP?
[15:55] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: i think so how to conclude it?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> timposey:  you could do 'sudo passwd username' and i think it will skip any security 'settings'
[15:55] <S74rk7> OK so its not that necessary really unless I'm looking to hibernate etc... but is there any issues this can cause?
[15:55] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: check the router settings?
[15:56] <meganerdca> S74rk7: large swapspace just takes up disk space, not a big deal
[15:56] <S74rk7> meganerdca: OK thanks :)
[15:56] <ruan> S74rk7: im running without a swap, havent had any issues so far. its been 3 weeks now
[15:56] <prx> running the networkmanager config gui, and finally using nmcli i got my wlan running (lacking the applet)
[15:56] <meganerdca> S74rk7: it is not used if it is not needed
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> S74rk7:  i alwyas put  about 512mb of swap on ever system i make.. at a minimal
[15:56] <ruan> 3gb of ram btw
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> live cd;s can use swap :)  and can get confused if theres none. so i keep some on all my box's just in case.
[15:57] <S74rk7> is there any advantages to having such a large swap area other than being able to hibernate a busy system?
[15:57] <ruan> !swap
[15:57] <meganerdca> I have 4 GiB of RAM in my laptop and an 11 GiB swapspace
[15:57] <ruan> o_O
[15:57] <monggo> what... 2x is ancient rule one !!? should i resize swap?
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> if you system doset need 5+gb of swap.. then you dont gain anything by having 10+gb either. :)
[15:58] <prx> having too much swap can cause trouble if a mem leaking proces eats up all your ram
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> monggo:  depedns on your needs. and f you use hibernate
[15:58] <prx> it delays the action of the OOM killer
[15:58] <meganerdca> monggo: it is an old rule of thumb, only resize if you really need the disk space, otherwise don't worry about it
[15:58] <prx> wasting 11Gig on swap seem insane, doesnt it?
[15:59] <meganerdca> prx: only if you are wasting it
[15:59] <prx> was that default?
[15:59] <meganerdca> prx: even then with a 500 GB hard drive, its not like I would notice.  Yes it was the default
[15:59] <ruan> is it ok to partition on a drive that has a partition mounted, but to remove unmounted partitions on the drive
[15:59] <ruan> ?
[15:59] <meganerdca> prx: besides, I regularly need a lot of swap space
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> ruan:  i think you can.
[16:00] <ruan> Dr_Willis: thanks
[16:00] <prx> meganerdca: what do you regularly need swap space for?
[16:00] <ruan> though to resize my main partition, i'll need a livecd
[16:01] <meganerdca> prx: lots of apps, a couple of VMs
[16:01] <ruan> i hope my usb works this time
[16:01] <monggo> should i allocated 160 GB for swap with my RAM 1GB?
[16:01] <ruan> monggo: no way, your computer will never use that much
[16:01] <ZarroBoogs> monggo: swap is akin to the pagefile on Windows.
[16:02] <ruan> monggo: at most 4gb of swap, no more
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> monggo:  peraps 4gb max on a 1gb system.. if you really need more then that..  i wousl suggest more ram buying in the futyre.
[16:02] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: where are we at with your wifi issue?
[16:02] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: cant reach the router from the browser like 192.168.0.1, so tried iwlist eth1 ap
[16:02] <monggo> Okay ., okay ..... buying 10GB Of RAM should be enough..
[16:03] <ruan> monggo: that's still extreme, what are you planning to do with the pc?
[16:03] <meganerdca> monggo: there is no such thing as too much RAM
[16:03] <meganerdca> monggo: I am putting 16 GiB of RAM into my new core i5
[16:03] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[16:03] <ruan> meganerdca: there is, if you're not using the ram _ever_
[16:04] <ruan> if you don't run apps that use the ram, it's a waste
[16:04] <meganerdca> ruan: I still do not believe that it is "too much" :)
[16:04] <prx> ruan: just compile some c++ stuff, youll need it ;)
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> like having a 1000gallon gas tank on a moped? :)
[16:04] <monggo> my processor dual core.. what size appropriate for running lucid ?>
[16:04] <prx> say boost
[16:04] <ruan> prx: i dont compile c eyet
[16:04] <ruan> yet
[16:04] <janolap1> megandrca: "host proxy" replies ";; connection timed out; no server could be reached"
[16:05] <prx> c itself doesnt need such insane amount of RAM
[16:05] <lament> hey there ops, i got spam from siska, in indonesian, asking me to join another IRC server
[16:05] <lament> on join
[16:05] <meganerdca> janolap1: try "host proxy <ip of dns server>
[16:05] <ZarroBoogs> lament: can you pm me the message you got?
[16:05] <prx> many JAVA applications will use up much, too
[16:05] <ruan> minecraft only takes 300mb ram at most
[16:05] <Abhijit> lament, you can use /ignore <username> all and also you can set +R flag so that unregistered user wont be able to pm you
[16:05] <meganerdca> firefox and chrome use 100s of MBs each on my system
[16:05] <janolap1> megandrca : the same message !
[16:06] <monggo> anyone know how configure gsm network such as scanning proxy to raise bandwidth speed?
[16:06] <lament> Abhijit: true, but an on-join spammer is a channelwide problem
[16:06] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: do not do the ap at the end, should just be "sudo iwlist <interface>"
[16:06] <janolap1> megandrca : really don't know. I'll try on monday... not urgent ! Thanx !
[16:07] <Abhijit> lament, yeah wait for some ops or you can go to #ubuntu-ops
[16:07] <ZarroBoogs> Abhijit: I'm around.
[16:07] <ZarroBoogs> Abhijit: <- Pici
[16:07] <Abhijit> ZarroBoogs, you mean you are a Pici?
[16:08] <djazz> why cant i install .deb in the new ubuntu beta?
[16:08] <ruan> !natty | djazz
[16:08] <djazz> I know
[16:08] <meganerdca> djazz: well usually there is an error message that provides you with a starting point
[16:08] <monggo> my gsm internet speed are suck's ..any idea ?
[16:08] <alien260> djazz: What's the error message?
[16:08] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:sudo iwlist eth1 [sudo] password for gv: iwlist: unknown command `eth1'
[16:09] <timposey> Dr_Willis:  Thanks, that worked.. I have looked for that everywhere and couldn't find it.
[16:09] <djazz> no error message, the progress bar starts, then it turns into an "Install" button again
[16:09] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: "sudo iwlist eth1 scanning"
[16:09] <djazz> any other way to install .deb without software manager?
[16:09] <meganerdca> djazz: try it from the CLI, "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb"
[16:09] <tekk> hey guys, i have a Xsession open, I want to execute a command remotely but have it run in that session
[16:09] <JimUbu> I tried upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10.  It ended prematurely, after only a few minutes. It downloaded files, then was configuring, then put up a message for reboot.  I rebooted and 10.10 was not there.
[16:09] <djazz> yeah..
[16:10] <tekk> i.e. say i launch vlc from a remote terminal over ssh, i want it to open in the active Xsession... any ideas?
[16:10] <ruan> tekk: ssh -x user@host
[16:10] <Tatanka_> Hola
[16:10] <ruan> or was it -X
[16:10] <ruan> hold on
[16:10] <prx> it was -X
[16:10] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588286/
[16:10] <JimUbu> Am I in the right place for installation questions?
[16:11] <ruan> tekk: ssh -X
[16:11] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, what command or method did you use to upgrade ?
[16:11] <JimUbu> I used the upgrade manager.
[16:11] <tekk> ruan, ssh -X will launch it in that activated terminal
[16:11] <tekk> not the running session
[16:11] <tekk> imagine you have a desktop system running and you're in another country and want to launch a program in the desktop without VNC'ing in
[16:11] <m4gnus> hello everyone
[16:12]  * rcconf hello all
[16:12] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: try setting the channel on the router
[16:12] <meganerdca> tekk: I use NX from nomachine.com to do that
[16:12] <djazz> thx  meganerdca
[16:12] <vrs> question: I'm a complete noob concerning printers and i need to print something. there is an external print server and i don't have cups or anything printing-related installed. which packages should I go for if I only want a printer client?
[16:12] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: how to do so?
[16:12] <monggo> slow internet connection please ...
[16:12] <tekk> meganerdca, NX is basically a remote-desktop VNC like thing
[16:13] <tekk> i'm after pure terminal
[16:13] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: depends on the router, but usually you point your browser to the router's IP
[16:13] <rcconf> How can I use Ubuntu Server as Live CD?
[16:13] <ruan> tekk: hmm. when i run 'firefox' in the terminal it launches firefox outside of the terminal
[16:13] <tekk> e.g. i wanna run a command from pty/1 and run it in 0:0
[16:13] <tekk> ruan, not from a remote location
[16:13] <tekk> it will try to launch it in your own terminal
[16:13] <meganerdca> tekk: yes, plus it runs over ssh, so single tcp port to deal with.  Also uses ssh for encyption.  Win win.
[16:13] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, try this in the console instead , butmake sure that any ppas that were added after your install are disabled in the package manager or commented with # in front in the sources.list .: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:13] <sourcenemy> whats the lightest and smallest ubuntu based system that has most drivers and FW? ( i allways have trouble getting my wireless working on my netbook with one exeption easypeasy)
[16:13] <tekk> i don't want to remote desktop in
[16:13] <vrs> and what's the package name of the gnome printer admin?
[16:13] <tekk> this is much lower level than a NX/VNC like thing
[16:14] <ruan> tekk: hmm. i've got to test remote then
[16:14] <meganerdca> tekk: ssh -X?
[16:14] <sushuiyuzhou> is any body?
[16:14] <monggo> prozilla prozilla prozilla prozilla
[16:14] <JimUbu> Where do I comment out the ppas
[16:14] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: as i've written i cant access the router from the browser, but can ping from Networkmanager
[16:14] <sushuiyuzhou> OK
[16:14] <tekk> ssh -X opens in the remote terminal
[16:14] <JimUbu> Where is sources.list?
[16:15] <tekk> xhost or something would work, but that hasn't existed properly for 20 years+
[16:15] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: without access to the router this is going to be tough.
[16:15] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: the line "Channel:0" from your iwlist is what concerns me
[16:15] <ruan> i'd have to install openSSH on my windows pc to remotely access this one :/
[16:15] <rumpe1> JimmyJ, /etc/apt/
[16:15] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: we could try it from the CLI
[16:15] <JimUbu> blueskaj - thanks for the help ... I'll find sources.list ...
[16:15] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i see
[16:16] <sourcenemy> whats the lightest and smallest ubuntu based system that has most drivers and FW? ( i allways have trouble getting my wireless working on my netbook with one exeption easypeasy)...
[16:16] <meganerdca> tekk: ssh -X opens a remote app on your current machine.  Basically an X connection over ssh.  It is really slooooooow
[16:16] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, alt +f2, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:16] <bob__> mode /#ubuntu+1
[16:16] <meganerdca> sourcenemy: what do you mean by lightest?
[16:17] <emre> hi
[16:17] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: so what to type?
[16:17] <tekk> meganerdca i realise that
[16:17] <tekk> i'm on about something more complex
[16:17] <tekk> nevermind.
[16:17] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, but check the package manager as well , just to be sure
[16:17] <sourcenemy> with least crap installed on it from start kinda like DSL
[16:17] <JimUbu> Thanks again BluesKaj!1
[16:17] <ZarroBoogs> !minimal | sourcenemy
[16:17] <monggo> how to scan open proxy internet provider?
[16:18] <ZarroBoogs> monggo: Thats not something that we can provide help for here.
[16:18] <JimUbu> K
[16:18] <monggo> why?
[16:18] <prx> tekk: In order to speed up X via ssh you can use ssh -X -c arcfour name@host
[16:18] <ZarroBoogs> monggo: Because 1) It has nothing to do with Ubuntu 2) We get logs of channel abuse from open proxies.
[16:18] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: from the cli: "sudo stop network-manager" then "sudo wpa_passphrase saleem1234 wpa passphrase > saleem1234.conf"  then "sudo wpa_supplicant -D wext -i eth1 -c /path/to/saleem1234.conf"
[16:18] <prx> -c choses the cipher (arcfour)
[16:19] <monggo> in my country a lot of phreaking thread
[16:19] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: ok
[16:19] <prx> arcfour is faster than aes128 (if you do not have hw accelerated AES, as on Core i CPUs)
[16:20] <sourcenemy> cheers ill have a look at that minimal;) only problem is i will be adding a bunch of tools and i have no idea what dependensies they have... but maybe minimal will ask if i want that installed too when i install the tools?
[16:20] <jjholt> running ubuntu 9.10 on a powerbook G3 pismo 400MHz G3 and 384MB RAM, should I upgrade to the latest LTS?
[16:20] <jon1> just downloaded thursday's release of natty narwhal and have a problem.  when i open a folder, such as home, videos, etc., I cannot see anything, only white.  any suggestions?
[16:20] <ZarroBoogs> jjholt: Yes.  9.10 support ends on April 29th.
[16:20] <ZarroBoogs> jon1 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[16:21] <jon1> ZarroBoogs, thanks
[16:21] <bob__> how do I change to #ubuntu+1 using smuxi?
[16:22] <ZarroBoogs> bob__: type: /join #ubuntu+1
[16:22] <falcon1212> can any1 help me im having trouble with airodump
[16:22] <falcon1212> ?
[16:22] <prx> Would be nice if ubuntu one day included http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
[16:23] <larious> I can't install openVPN.deb offline why
[16:23] <ayecee> larious: i give up. why?
[16:24] <ayecee> larious: maybe the error message explains why?
[16:24] <falcon1212> can any1 help me? im having trouble with airodump
[16:24] <lvh> Hi. Can I get a backported (forwardport?) version of python2.5 for 10.10 anywhere?
[16:25] <ayecee> falcon1212: you'll have to describe the trouble before anyone can assist you with it
[16:25] <meganerdca> larious: what is the error?
[16:25] <larious> ayecee: sorry for the way I put the question, I need someone to help me
[16:25] <larious> that cant download from the internet 1 to 4
[16:25] <ZarroBoogs> lvh: Can I inquire as to why you need python2.5?
[16:25] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: well, i must forgot to substituate something, cant find path to saleem1234.conf
[16:26] <falcon1212> once i pull up airodump and i try to connect to wifi it shows no signals
[16:26] <larious> I downloaded the software from the internet to my xp and then I copyed it to my ubuntu, but I cant install it
[16:26] <ayecee> larious: I don't recognize that error. could you paste it at paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:27] <ayecee> larious: include the command you used to try to install the deb.
[16:27] <lvh> ZarroBoogs: Google App Engine.
[16:27] <ayecee> falcon1212: has it worked before for you, or is this the first time?
[16:27] <cretep> I have a simple question. I am using Maverick Meerkat and would like to try using Wine with some of my Windows Programs.
[16:27] <lvh> ZarroBoogs: Also, running test suites on 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7.
[16:27] <NaseMk> how to uninstall kubuntu desktop on my ubuntu 10.10
[16:27] <NaseMk> ?
[16:27] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: the wpa_passphrase command had ">" which dumps the output to a file
[16:27] <lvh> ZarroBoogs: (I *say* my software works but it would nice if I actually verified that.)
[16:27] <cretep> I can navigate to them ok with the Wine browse function, but all of those programs are marked as non-executable.
[16:28] <ZarroBoogs> lvh: Ah.  Well, its unlikely that you'll see an official package for 2.5, but theres problably a PPA out there for that very purpose.
[16:28] <cretep> And I cannot change that to executable with the properties window.
[16:28] <milamber> NaseMk: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it wouldn't be easy
[16:28] <mugen> !rules
[16:28] <cretep> How do I mark those programs as executable?
[16:28] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: if would dump this file in whatever directory you were in
[16:28] <NaseMk> so
[16:28] <rcconf> cretep: chmod +x file
[16:28] <NaseMk> what shoul i do
[16:28] <rumpe1> cretep, they dont need to be executable... wine executes them
[16:28] <rcconf> cretep: or right click permissions..
[16:28] <falcon1212> no its not the first its always happened i think somehow i am turning off the wifi card i just dont know how to get it back up
[16:28] <Abhijit> NaseMk, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:28] <milamber> NaseMk: why do you want to get rid of it?
[16:28] <DJones> !puregnome | NaseMk
[16:29] <larious> ayecee: i download from the internet... and double click, I use my ubuntu offline not online, and i use my window to download the application, then copy it to my ubuntu to install, didnt use any command in the terminal
[16:29] <Abhijit> oh uninstall
[16:29] <Abhijit> okay wait
[16:29] <mugen> Would anyone mind taking a look at my smb.conf? I keep getting permission denied on my shares.
[16:29] <NaseMk> waiting
[16:29] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: Failed to read or parse configuration '/path/to/saleem1234.conf
[16:29] <rigved> NaseMk: there is a guide on psychocats
[16:29] <ayecee> larious: okay. I still don't know that error message. It would be helpful to see it.
[16:29] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: put the actual path
[16:29] <rigved> NaseMk: tell me which desktop do you want to keep
[16:30] <DJones> NaseMk: Have you looked at the link I that was sent a minute ago
[16:30] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: example: " /home/mike/saleem1234.conf" assuming your username is mike
[16:30] <ayecee> falcon1212: I don't understand. It was working before, and now it's not?
[16:30] <NaseMk> ubuntu 10.10
[16:30] <NaseMk> gnome
[16:30] <larious> ayecee: can you answer this, have you installed package offline
[16:30] <Abhijit> NaseMk, you can follow this linik http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome but i want to warn you that i followed this link some months ago and IT BROKE MY FULL SYSTEM so as to  i need to reinstall whole system. decision is yours.
[16:30] <rigved> NaseMk: try what DJones says
[16:30] <ayecee> larious: yes, but using the commandline, not doubleclicking it.
[16:31] <NaseMk> dj johnes
[16:31] <larious> apt-get install openvpn
[16:31] <NaseMk> which link
[16:31] <DJones> !puregnome | NaseMk
[16:31] <rigved> !puregnome > NaseMk
[16:31] <falcon1212> once i type airodump-ng my wifi is gone in order to get it back i have to restart the computer
[16:31] <ayecee> larious: I don't think apt-get would work offline.
[16:31] <ayecee> larious: I'd usually use dpkg for offline.
[16:32] <rigved> DJones: i sent it to him via pm. that way he'll be able to see it apart fromt he flood
[16:32] <rigved> *the
[16:32] <monggo> larious, buy dvd repositories
[16:32] <larious> ayecee: need to reboot my computer to switch to ubuntu, can you give me a command that i can use
[16:32] <d3vic3> !apt-offline
[16:32] <falcon1212> right now i have wifi i have not typed it on the shell konsole i just want to know what command to i have to type in order to get it back
[16:32] <DJones> rigved: I saw that, probably doesn't repeat in the channel so quickly to avoid spamming the channel
[16:32] <ayecee> larious: dpkg -i filename.deb
[16:33] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: Failed to read or parse configuration '/path/to/saleem1234.conf
[16:33] <rigved> DJones: ya :)
[16:33] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: sorry., ok
[16:33] <larious> monggo: where can I buy it, they dont sell ubuntu package here
[16:33] <monggo> larious, where do u lived
[16:33] <larious> ayecee: you mean the package would already be on my system
[16:33] <larious> monggo: nigeria
[16:33] <ayecee> larious: I thought you said you already had the deb on the system?
[16:33] <larious> yea
[16:34] <larious> ayecee: on my ubuntu desktop
[16:34] <ayecee> falcon1212: you exit out of airodump-ng, but still can't connect to a wifi network?
[16:34] <monggo> larious, ill send you for free.. at www.4shared.com
[16:34] <falcon1212> ayecee: true
[16:34] <ayecee> larious: okay, you can install that with dpkg as I said.
[16:34] <larious> ok
[16:35] <ayecee> falcon1212: you may be able to get around it by removing the driver module for your wifi with rmmod, then reinserting it with modprobe.
[16:35] <larious> monggo: I will be very happy
[16:35] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: sorry where to write passphrase?
[16:35] <ayecee> falcon1212: some wifi cards get a bit confused when doing this stuff, is the easiest way to describe it.
[16:36] <monggo> monggo, it sized 32Gb large
[16:36] <falcon1212> ayecee: im knew to this sorry
[16:36] <brad_> has anyone had issues upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 beta?
[16:36] <ZarroBoogs> brad_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[16:36] <larious> ayecee: have you ever set up openVPN on your system
[16:36] <larious> monggo: you are too funny ?
[16:36] <falcon1212> ayecee: how to i use modprobe?
[16:37] <monggo> larious, figure it your self we are one destiny
[16:37] <ayecee> larious: yes
[16:37] <larious> monggo: that mean you were joking with me
[16:37] <ayecee> falcon1212: first you need to know which module to take out :) can you paste the output of lsmod to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:37] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: so the second command is sudo wpa_passphrase saleem1234 wpa ***** > salem1234.conf ?
[16:38] <monggo> monggo, trouble together... ihave my own too LoL
[16:38] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: yup
[16:38] <onecrazycat> Anyone have any good tutorials on how to put together DEB packages?  I'm a total noob in that department.
[16:38] <larious> ayecee: need you to help me in setting you a program called your-freedom, and this package is to browse through the net
[16:38] <falcon1212> ayecee: what do i paste?
[16:39] <ayecee> falcon1212: you run lsmod, and paste what it prints
[16:39] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: Line 1: unknown global field 'Passphrase must be 8..63 characters'.
[16:39] <cognac-gamma> Line 1: Invalid configuration line 'Passphrase must be 8..63 characters'.
[16:39] <cognac-gamma> Failed to read or parse configuration '/home/gv/saleem1234.conf'.
[16:39] <falcon1212> ayecee: so i just type lsmod?
[16:39] <ayecee> larious: I am quite busy and cannot hold your hand through the process. however, if you have specific questions, I or someone else may be able to answer them here.
[16:39] <rigved> !packaging | onecrazycat
[16:40] <ayecee> falcon1212: yes
[16:40] <thevishy> are there any ways to improve the sound output
[16:40] <falcon1212> ok
[16:40] <thevishy> I mean my speaker is capable of more , but the mp3 is a deeble
[16:40] <thevishy> feeble*
[16:40] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i wrote the passp[hrase as i mentioned, still got this..
[16:40] <monggo> larious, i try to install yf but didn;t worked
[16:40] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: your passphrase is too short then
[16:40] <larious> monggo: how did you know what I need?
[16:41] <onecrazycat> !packaging
[16:41] <monggo> larious, maybe need javaruntime windows version installed at wine
[16:41] <falcon1212> ayecee: alot came up what is the file i paste?
[16:41] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: no, it is exact 9 character long...
[16:42] <ayecee> falcon1212: paste all of it at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:42] <cretep> I'm sorry, it seems not to work. When I try to open a Windows program with the Wine Program Loader, I get an error message saying that the program's executable bit is not set, and if I go to the permissions tab in the properties window, there is a box to check to make it executable, but the checkmark won't stay.
[16:42] <onecrazycat> ubottu: ty
[16:42] <larious> monggo: why dont you try it, if that will work out, but there will be java runtime for ubuntu?
[16:42] <ruan> cretep: what filesystem is this?
[16:42] <ayecee> falcon1212: when you submit it, it'll provide a link with which I can view the paste.
[16:42] <rigved> onecrazycat: to know about fixing packages hosted on launchpad, read the irc logs for #ubuntu-classroom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[16:42] <ruan> cretep: and do you have write permissions to the folder
[16:43] <cretep> that is an ntfs file system for Win XP
[16:43] <ruan> cretep: remount it with ntfs-3g
[16:43] <monggo> larious, i allready installed both, but not yet to try installing yf
[16:43] <theDude_> hey, between flash logging me out and the upgrade being forced to restart my computer nearly became a brick.  I need to find out how to save Ubuntu (10.10 or 11.04, no idea which) and win7.  Grub died, but I doubt that's the only problem
[16:44] <cretep> i only knopw how to mount filesystems through the gnome graphical screen.
[16:44] <falcon1212> ayecee: Module                  Size  Used by
[16:44] <falcon1212> ipv6                  215277  10
[16:44] <falcon1212> aes_i586                6868  1
[16:44] <falcon1212> aes_generic            25694  1 aes_i586
[16:44] <falcon1212> sbs                     8489  0
[16:44] <FloodBot1> falcon1212: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <falcon1212> sbshc                   2608  1 sbs
[16:44] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: your file should look like this one: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588294/
[16:44] <larious> monggo: can you help me on how to install my yf package
[16:45] <rigved> cretep: use the live cd to boot and mount the partitions. save the date to an external disk. then re-install
[16:45] <ayecee> falcon1212: you need to paste this at http://paste.ubuntu.com, not here
[16:45] <larious>  monggo: can you help me on how to install my yf package
[16:45] <rigved> cretep: no need to re-install win7, though. only re-installing ubuntu will work
[16:46] <ruan> cretep: what happens if you copy the files to your ubuntu partition?
[16:47] <ruan> rigved: are you talking to the right person?
[16:47] <falcon1212> i pasted it
[16:47] <ayecee> falcon1212: did the webpage give you a link to use?
[16:47] <cretep> thanks, folks, I'll try your suggestions.
[16:47] <ruan> cretep: don't reinstall
[16:47] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. Can someone smarter than me take a look at this? This is my syslog from when my server crashed - trying to figure out why my server is crashing - http://www.guruz.us/crashlog.txt
[16:48] <AxonetBE> I have some problems with sphinx. When I run the sphinx command rake ts:start there is not problem but when running this via crontab then I get Sphinx cannot be found on your system. You may need to configure the following… What am I doing wrong?
[16:48] <falcon1212> ayecee: it says i can download it as a text
[16:48] <rigved> ruan: i guess. if you have a better solution, please suggest :)
[16:49] <ayecee> falcon1212: I don't know what you mean
[16:49] <digitalfiz> Hey guys can I get support for 11.04 in here yet?
[16:49] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i opened with gedit after repeating the second line but only says passphrase should be 8 63 character long. for other guys in da flat it works on win7
[16:49] <ayecee> digitalfiz: no, use #ubuntu+1
[16:49] <rcconf> digitalfiz: no
[16:49] <ZarroBoogs> digitalfiz: no. Please use #ubuntu+1 until 11.04 is released (April 28th).
[16:49] <digitalfiz> ok ty rcconf
[16:49] <rcconf> and he thanks me lol
[16:49] <ruan> rigved: i think you meant to talk to theDude_ ?
[16:50] <falcon1212> it just says Paste from Falcon1212 at Sat, 2 Apr 2011 02:47:04 -0400 and has my text under it
[16:50] <theDude_> yeah, I do kinda need help de-screwing my computer
[16:50] <rigved> ruan: you are right.
[16:50] <itaylor57> AxonetBE: you need to the full path in your crontab
[16:50] <rcconf> theDude_: details please
[16:50] <rigved> ruan: thanx
[16:50] <ruan> JeffJassky: one thing i do notice is that there is 0kb swap free
[16:50] <AxonetBE> itaylor57: yes I have
[16:51] <AxonetBE> but when doing it in crontab he is not finding the Sphinx command
[16:51] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: the file saleem1234.conf says "
[16:51] <meganerdca> passphrase should be 8 63 character long
[16:51] <ruan> JeffJassky: i think the cause of this is out of memory
[16:51] <root_> how do I install portage?
[16:51] <ayecee> falcon1212: ok, give me the address of the page you're looking at, it'll look like paste.ubuntu.com followed by some numbers
[16:51] <ruan> JeffJassky: kernel: [244918.862756] Out of memory: kill process 30421 (apache2) score 99154 or a child
[16:51] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: run the wpa_passphrase command again
[16:52] <falcon1212> ayecee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588299/
[16:52] <ZarroBoogs> root_: Use gentoo?
[16:52] <ruan> JeffJassky: it attempted to kill apache, and then it crashed
[16:52] <Satisfied> okay.. so I'm going through my group file in /etc and I find these two entries.. rtkit:x:133:  and   nopasswdlogin:x:134:   ... some stuff on google suggests this is part of pulseaudio... are they fucking joking ?
[16:52] <root_> Has ubuntu not got portage?
[16:52] <ruan> root_: portage?
[16:53] <home-alone> how to mount an ntfs drive..????
[16:53] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i ran it, then the third line again?
[16:53] <ruan> root_: check ubuntu software center, i think bitbake might be what you're looking for
[16:53] <ayecee> falcon1212: okay, that was exhausting. it looks like your wifi uses module "iwl3945", so.. "rmmod iwl3945; modprobe iwl3945" will remove it and reinsert it.
[16:53] <Jeruvy> Satisfied: language please.    Lets keep it PG-13
[16:53] <root_> ruan: it's a way to install thhings
[16:53] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: does it now look the file I put into paste.ubuntu.com?
[16:54] <ZarroBoogs> Satisfied: Please mind your language here.
[16:54] <ruan> root_: BitBake is a simple tool for the execution of tasks. It is derived from Portage, which is the package management system used by the Gentoo Linux distribution.
[16:54] <theDude_> rcconf: I was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 beta and went on the web.  Each time a web-page came up in firefox, it forced logged me out faster than the system ever doen under any conditions.  anyways, restarted the upgrade proccess a couple of times, alas, at every major step.  The upgrade "completed" but it said it might have left my system in an unstable state.  Not having any idea how to fix this, I just figured a reboot would he
[16:54] <ruan> theDude_: well, it's better to not upgrade to a beta release
[16:54] <ayecee> falcon1212: that _might_ fix the problem after using airodump-ng. we'll see.
[16:54] <oCean> theDude_: you upgraded to an unstable release. #ubuntu+1 for support
[16:55] <falcon1212> ayecee: so i just type rmmod and my wifi should be back up?
[16:55] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: nope, still the error message about passphrase length
[16:55] <theDude_> Well guys, it's kinda late to tell me that...
[16:55] <ayecee> falcon1212: no, please reread what I said
[16:55] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: run wpa_passphrase without the "> saleem1234.conf" part
[16:55] <itaylor57> wonders how many have assumed its time to upgrade to Natty
[16:55] <falcon1212> ayecee: lol sorry im new at this
[16:56] <ZarroBoogs> theDude_: It said 'beta' that means its not ready for general consumption.
[16:56] <ayecee> falcon1212: it's okay, reading takes practice
[16:56] <meganerdca> itaylor57: it is going to be fun in here once natty is released.
[16:56] <itaylor57> meganerdca: yes it will
[16:56] <falcon1212> ayecee: sorry i dont understand it
[16:56] <ell1> good night
[16:57] <novns> is there any way to cleanup system from unneeded libraries?  deborphan isn't digging circular dependencies
[16:57] <meganerdca> itaylor57: this is the first time I have had serious problems installing Linux in about 10 years
[16:57] <ayecee> falcon1212: you will run "rmmod iwl3945" to remove the module, then run "modprobe iwl3945" to reinsert it. Is that better?
[16:57] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: still the same outcome: sudo wpa_passphrase saleem1234 wpa ********* Passphrase must be 8..63 characters
[16:58] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: well, your passphrase is not long enough.
[16:58] <Abhijit> novns, tried bleech bit?
[16:58] <ayecee> novns: apt-get autoremove, maybe
[16:58] <ayecee> err, apt-get auto-remove
[16:58] <ruan> novns: sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:58] <ruan> not auto-remove
[16:58] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: ok, it's the same as the networks name
[16:59] <ayecee> heh, oops.
[16:59] <novns> apt-get autoremove doesn't drok circular dependencies too
[16:59] <novns> *grok
[16:59] <ruan> when in doubt, run [command] --help
[16:59] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: are you sure all the keys are registering
[16:59] <ayecee> novns: yup. those you'll probably have to do by hand.
[17:00] <novns> for example there's a number of orphaned mysql libraries installed
[17:00] <falcon1212> so i type first rmmod iwl3945 then i type modprobe iwl3945?
[17:00] <novns> and it's depend on each other
[17:00] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: let me check...
[17:00] <ayecee> falcon1212: yes
[17:00] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: it works for me
[17:01] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: so what did i wrong?
[17:01] <novns> Abhijit, thaks, I'll try
[17:01] <novns> *thanks
[17:01] <Abhijit> novns, welcome
[17:01] <falcon1212> ayecee: ok ty whew that was painful ut thank you (:
[17:01] <ayecee> :)
[17:03] <thevishy> any tools to amplify guys ?
[17:03] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: not sure,
[17:03] <ruan> thevishy: amplify what exactly?
[17:03] <novns> Abhijit, nope, bleachbit is not good
[17:03] <meganerdca> thevishy: what do you want to amplify?
[17:04] <thevishy> means my mp3 or saw output is not as expected . Can I use some software to amplify the sound . I mean my speaker can do a LOT more
[17:04] <novns> thevishy, use amplifier yo amplify things! :-)
[17:04] <tradakeolac> :-/
[17:04] <novns> *to
[17:04] <ruan> thevishy: there is audio amplification on audacity
[17:04] <ruan> thevishy: also, sound settings
[17:04] <tradakeolac> wtf?
[17:05] <ruan> thevishy: do you mean for all files or just a few?
[17:05] <oCean> family friendly channel, tradakeolac
[17:05] <tradakeolac> hello
[17:05] <tradakeolac> hallo
[17:05] <tradakeolac> :-/
[17:05] <tradakeolac> goto sleep
[17:05] <thevishy> only file I am listening to
[17:05] <thevishy> ruan,
[17:05] <daws_> I have to use centos at work.... boooo. but how can I get the color and history customizations that are default in ubuntu
[17:06] <daws_> as in where are they stored?
[17:06] <ruan> thevishy: use vlc then, amplify the volume
[17:06] <larious> anyone use YF here, please need help
[17:06] <thevishy> ruan, say a video file I have ...its so low ...I can do something to amplify no ?
[17:07] <ruan> thevishy: vlc has 200% volume i think
[17:07] <thevishy> right will check it
[17:07] <ruan> yes it does
[17:07] <larious> anyone use YF here, please need help
[17:07] <Franz___> noob question: where does one install applications in ubuntu? e.g. an ide like aptana
[17:07] <mneptok> !repeat | larious
[17:07] <Franz___> and where do i install java?
[17:07] <djQuery> trying to run 10.10 on a compaq nx9010 and it just sticks and never gives me the install screen
[17:07] <ruan> Franz___: synaptic or ubuntu software center
[17:07] <ruan> Franz___: the latter is more user-friendly
[17:07] <Franz___> i meant what path
[17:07] <thevishy> yes it does have i will check if it works well
[17:07] <Franz___> the software isn't available there
[17:07] <beefman> al
[17:08] <ruan> Franz___: it doesn't matter on ubuntu, packages are put in the correct locations when installed
[17:08] <desturrr> hi all, i am using dual monitor as twinview, and when i detach the computer from monitor, i change the configuration manually from xconf file, but in order to refresh  i have to log out, but is there a way to refresh the xorg settings without logging out ?
[17:08] <mneptok> Franz___: Java certainly is. as for Aptana, ask them. it's not an Ubuntu-specific issue.
[17:08] <Franz___> i was more asking in general
[17:08] <Abhijit> novns, why?
[17:09] <Franz___> in what folder do you install applications that aren't installed via the package manager(s)?
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: terminal can be used to install java
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: you extract them to a folder
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: anywhere
[17:09] <edbian> Franz___, usually /home/you/bin is a good place.  Or /usr/local/bin to let others run it as well
[17:09] <mneptok> Franz___: so choose. /sbin, /bin, usr/local, /usr/local/bin, /$HOME/bin .... up to you
[17:09] <desturrr> hi all, i am using dual monitor as twinview, and when i detach the computer from monitor, i change the configuration manually from xconf file, but in order to refresh i have to log out, but is there a way to refresh the xorg settings without logging out ?
[17:09] <edbian> mneptok, Franz___ ew, no don't put it in /sbin or /bin that's not right.
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: if you want to install java, type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" in a terminal
[17:10] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: thanks very much anyway. any other idea?
[17:10] <mneptok> edbian: it's not a good choice, but it's an option. but anyone that wants to manually install stuff rather than use the package manager should know all the potential problems. ;)
[17:10] <falcon1212> ayecee:it worked!!!!!!
[17:10] <edbian> mneptok, true
[17:11] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: not without knowing more.  Having access to the router is a plus, since we can check settings
[17:11] <mneptok> edbian: this is wht the correct answer should be , "Use the package manager, or talk to each project and find out what they recommend."
[17:11] <Witchsong> I need to install GDB 6.8 on my Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick to get rid of some warnings in Qt Creator, but I cannot find any way to actually do this downgrade. Anyone know how to do it?
[17:11] <sylphid> does anyone know of a utility that can convert prompts for cli stdin  to gui dialog box?
[17:12] <edbian> mneptok, Here is the really correct answer: use the package manager.
[17:12] <mneptok> edbian: +1. i owe you a Coke. :)
[17:12] <edbian> :)
[17:12] <jiltdil> how to check label of all partition with a single command?
[17:12] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: ok. how can access the router?
[17:13] <sylphid> jiltdil: fdisk -l
[17:13] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: from cLI or any other way?
[17:13] <jiltdil> sylphid:using e2label
[17:14] <djQuery> trying to boot compaq nx9010 from usb drive and it never finishes loading
[17:15] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: cos i m connected to the router with ethernetcable
[17:15] <jiltdil> sylphid: like e2label /dev/sda1  but it only tells about sda1 i want to use this command for all in a single line is there any syntax that i add to it to display all
[17:16] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: it depends on the router, usually it is with a web browser
[17:16] <sylphid> jiltdil: i dont have any labels set up to test but try e2label /dev/sda[1-9]
[17:16] <om26er> bs_, there there :)
[17:16] <jiltdil> sylphid:ok wait
[17:16] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:ip addr show eth0
[17:16] <cognac-gamma> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>     link/ether 00:c0:9f:43:a6:77 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>     inet 192.168.0.5/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>     inet6 fe80::2c0:9fff:fe43:a677/64 scope link
[17:17] <FloodBot1> cognac-gamma: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[17:17] <jiltdil> sylphid: no this says new label not worked
[17:17] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: sorry for flooding
[17:18] <gianluca> chi parla italiano
[17:18] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: ip route is what you are looking for, the IP that is your default gateway is likely the router
[17:18] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:http://paste.ubuntu.com/588311/
[17:18] <meganerdca> gotta run though
[17:19] <sylphid> jiltdil: for x in $(ls /dev/sd?[0-9]); do e2label $x; done
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> new labels I think MAY need a reboot for the kernel to notice the change
[17:20] <sylphid> Dr_Willis: partprobe should pick it up
[17:20] <efesto> hello, good afternoon, i have a little problem on ubuntu 10.10, it not detects that i'm on laptop,
[17:20] <efesto> no battery detected, or ac connection
[17:20] <efesto> any idea where to begin to found a solution?
[17:21] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: neither 192.168.0.5 or .0.2 or 0.1
[17:21] <magn3ts> Cantebury is April fool's right?
[17:21] <magn3ts> I feel stupid asking
[17:21] <jiltdil> sylphid:ok thatks i will try
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> efesto:  i was thinking there was some ubuntu-laptop package.. but that may be what i rember from a few releases back
[17:22] <sylphid> does anyone know of a utility that can convert prompts for cli stdin  to gui dialog box?
[17:22] <efesto> Dr_Willis, i tried same dvd on other laptop and install fine, the "battery" and those things.... is strange
[17:22] <Guest29879> 大家好阿
[17:22] <oCean> sylphid: e2label does not require partprobe, it's effective immediately
[17:22] <ikonia> sylphid: there are toolkits for dialog boxes, but it's not a conversion, it has to be put into a script and worked with
[17:22] <efesto> don't show me the diference if is connected to ac or not... and the icon doesn't appear to
[17:23] <Guest29879> hi
[17:23] <beniwtv> efesto: By default, the icon only appears while charging or discarging.
[17:23] <ikonia> beniwtv: it appears if it's fully charged showing AC power
[17:23] <efesto> beniwtv, i'm "charging" now, is the first charge
[17:24] <efesto> U_U
[17:24] <wesada> Hi All.
[17:24] <beniwtv> ikonia: Not on my laptop, shomehow...
[17:24] <wesada> Just wondering if anyone has experience with fcron?
[17:24] <ikonia> it all depends on the power managment systems your laptop use
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> !info fcron
[17:25] <efesto> in google i've found any about problems with api
[17:25] <wesada> I'd like to run a job every Thursday,Saturday and Sunday at some point between 0200 and 0500 and on boot if the machine was down.
[17:25] <efesto> but... i don't see any about it in log files
[17:26] <home-alone> how to get Ubuntu for other arcitactures (other than 386 )...??????
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> home-alone:  the ubuntu homepage has download links somewhere. 64bit 32bit.. and i think arm
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> !64bit
[17:26] <oCean> !arm > home-alone
[17:27] <oCean> !ppc > home-alone
[17:27] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: so we give it up at this point?
[17:27] <genii-around> !ps3
[17:27] <home-alone> ok thank you . I will see
[17:27] <genii-around> Woops
[17:28] <sllide> hmm ubuntu on a ps3
[17:28] <sllide> would work quite well with the wireless and usb ports
[17:28] <ikonia> it's a dead project
[17:29] <efesto> Dr_Willis, about fcron... do u think that it can solve my "problem"?
[17:29] <falcon1212> on Backtrack 4 what is the command to shutdown your computer?
[17:29] <zmbi> shutdown :)
[17:29] <root_> falcon1212: shutdown
[17:29] <efesto> ahm, my laptop is a intel p6000, runing on 32b
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> efesto:  no idea. I rarely even use cron these days.
[17:29] <oCean> falcon1212: this is not the channel for backtrack support
[17:30] <falcon1212> ok ty
[17:30] <root_> falcon1212: or poweroff
[17:30] <soreau> falcon1212: Or poweroff
[17:30] <root_> or halt; poweroff
[17:30] <zmbi> shutdown works
[17:30] <soreau> or
[17:30] <falcon1212> ty every1
[17:30] <Giant81> shutdown /h now
[17:30] <ikonia> guys - this isn't back track linux support
[17:30] <soreau> ! backtrack | falcon1212
[17:30] <ikonia> Giant81: that's not a valid command
[17:30] <edbian> ikonia, Why do so many backtrack users end up here?
[17:30] <Magi_tunnel> I don't think their ready to cut all the hardlines yet..
[17:30] <Giant81> really? I htought it was valid on just about all distros
[17:31] <root_> ikonia: it's the same in all distros
[17:31] <soreau> root_: But we don't support backtrack at all here
[17:31] <root_> soreau: it's the same in all distros
[17:31] <soreau> root_: But we don't support backtrack at all here
[17:31] <ikonia> root_: so ?
[17:31] <ikonia> Giant81: /h is not an option
[17:31] <ikonia> root_: we don't support all distros, just ubuntu
[17:31] <kel39> hi, im having problems after i made a partition table and installed ubuntu on my machine. I have installed ubuntu succesfully, but now cannot access my other partition: Failed to read last sector (1250258943): Invalid argument
[17:31] <kel39> any help?
[17:31] <Giant81>  /h has always been halt
[17:31] <Giant81> on every ditstro I've used
[17:31] <dqwadwqfaewa> run fsck?
[17:31] <Giant81> and /r to restart
[17:31] <ikonia> Giant81: /h isn't an argument -h is though
[17:32] <zmbi> Magi_tunnel: can some have just diferent distros?
[17:32] <Giant81> ahhh ty, been on windows too long
[17:32] <jiltdil> any good link to read about the kernel and its related files?
[17:32] <zmbi> think so
[17:32] <soreau> kel39: Are you sure that partition isn't corrupted?
[17:32] <kel39> dqwadwqfaewa: I've tried, fsck.ntfs not found
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[17:32] <root_> sorry, partiting has nothing to do with ubuntu kel39 go to ##hardware or ##linux
[17:32] <dqwadwqfaewa> http://kernelnewbies.org/
[17:32] <jmwpc> When connectint a USB stick to a server system, how do I find out what device to use so I can mount it?
[17:32] <ikonia> jiltdil: nothing to do with ubuntu, so offtopic here
[17:32] <jmwpc> from the command line
[17:32] <kel39> soreau: not 100% sure, but in gnome it detects it as 'Backup' which was its name
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> kel39:  its best to check/fix a ntfs filesystem from windows.
[17:32] <ikonia> root_: yes it does, please don't try to be sillyt
[17:32] <kel39> Dr_Willis: ok
[17:32] <cognac-gamma> anyone can help with wireless issues?
[17:33] <RobinJ> omg, ubuntu 7.10 live CD wont start because it cant mount my EXT4 partition
[17:33] <kel39> in windows its not even registering as NTFS
[17:33] <jiltdil> ikonia: any channel  for this
[17:33] <kel39> but does show in disk management
[17:33] <root_> !wifi > cognac-gamma
[17:33] <soreau> kel39: Sounds like it could be corrupted
[17:33] <kel39> just with nothing
[17:33] <kel39> ok
[17:33] <kel39> evne though its name remains?
[17:33] <ikonia> jiltdil: ##kernel but you'll not be welcome asking those sorts of questions, it's quite "tough"
[17:33] <cognac-gamma> ok ty
[17:33] <soreau> kel39: Some or most of the data may still be in tact
[17:34] <kel39> all I did was create a partition table, made 30gb for / (ext4)  and 5gb for swap rest was ticked as 'not used'
[17:34] <meganerdca> kel39: either install ntfstools and run fixntfs, or use Windows disk, recovery console, and chkdsk
[17:34] <lampe2> hey iam looking for a lightwhiting "tasks manager"(not a process manager) for ubuntu ?
[17:34] <kel39> ok
[17:34] <oCean> !gutsy | RobinJ
[17:34] <jiltdil> ikonia: actually i am a new learnel and i want to learn more about this so can i do kernel configuration as project
[17:34] <root_> lampe2: top
[17:34] <RobinJ> ....
[17:34] <evermean> can someone explain to me the set-user-ID/set-group-ID bits (chmod u+s xyz) they don't make much sense to me
[17:34] <dqwadwqfaewa> lampe2: htop
[17:34] <soreau> kel39: and it also could be a physical problem (ie. bad hard drive sector(s))
[17:34] <ikonia> !permissions | extraymond
[17:34] <kel39> under that not used bit, it had 40gb as free space and 562gb used
[17:34] <oCean> root_: how is top a taksmanager?
[17:34] <kel39> ok soreau
[17:34] <oCean> *taskmanager even
[17:35] <RobinJ> RobinJ: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. << and the last good working one, it seems
[17:35] <kel39> i think ill reboot into windows and try chkdsk
[17:35] <root_> oCean: how is it not?
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> i wonder what 'task manager' does exactly.
[17:35] <dqwadwqfaewa> lol?
[17:35] <lampe2> iamn something like "getting things gnome" not a taskkiller...
[17:35] <root_> wtf why was I kicked?
[17:35] <dqwadwqfaewa> :D
[17:35] <ikonia> root_: control the language
[17:35] <geegeegee> Has anyone used a USB TV tuner?
[17:35] <tyreza> hello
[17:35] <tyreza> there
[17:36] <root_> anyway, top is the linux task manager
[17:36] <ikonia> root_: no it's not
[17:36] <tyreza> who know about postfix ?
[17:36] <genii-around> RobinJ: It wasn't the seventh release. It was released in October (10th month) of 2007 (the 7 in the designation)
[17:36] <root_> ikonia: how is it not?
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> !info top
[17:36] <ikonia> root_: it is not a task manager, it displays processes and system information
[17:36] <tyreza> hello
[17:36] <evermean> i'll try it again
[17:36] <evermean> can someone explain to me the set-user-ID/set-group-ID bits (chmod u+s xyz) they don't make much sense to me
[17:36] <tyreza> anyone know about postfix ?
[17:36] <ikonia> evermean: read the url ubottu sent you
[17:36] <root_> ikonia: and you can press k to kill the selected task.....
[17:36] <ikonia> tyreza: just ask the question
[17:37] <dqwadwqfaewa> !permissions|evermean
[17:37] <ikonia> root_: you can press 1 to show cpu count
[17:37] <RobinJ> !gutsy | genii-around
[17:37] <RobinJ> i dunno, the bot says it is :p
[17:37] <geegeegee> Has anyone used a USB TV tuner?
[17:37] <root_> top most certainly is a task manager amd a very good one at thaty
[17:37] <tyreza> well i  followed a tutorial talking about postfix installation with mysql
[17:37] <Paddy_NI> root_: htop is nice
[17:37] <genii-around> RobinJ: Ah, OK :) Coincidence
[17:37] <ikonia> it's a useful tool no question
[17:37] <RobinJ> :p
[17:37] <beniwtv> geegeegee: Just ask your question
[17:37] <evermean> ubottu: sorry i overlooked that...thanks
[17:38] <DShepherd> I havent' been here in a while. How goes? :D
[17:38] <tyreza> i have done everything but the authentification the password not match ? i don't know which password i have to use ? ikonia
[17:38] <geegeegee> is the picture a decent resolution
[17:38] <Paddy_NI> !info htop | root_
[17:38] <Witchsong> Is it somehow possible to upgrade Qt Creator from 2.0.1 to 2.1.0 through the package manager? At the moment it only lists 2.0.1 and no upgrade available?
[17:38] <evermean> ikonia: sorry i overlooked that...thanks...pretty clever bot :)
[17:38] <asksoon> test
[17:39] <IdleOne> fail
[17:39] <dqwadwqfaewa> no u
[17:39] <ssureshot> can you have two search statements in resolve.conf?
[17:39] <beniwtv> geegeegee: Depends on your TV tuner, if it is analog res will be low if it is DVB res will be quite ok
[17:39] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Could be in the backports repo other than that you may have to use a ppa
[17:39] <tyreza> HELO
[17:39] <geegeegee> beniwtv, Its DVB-T Do you know what the specific resolution is?
[17:39] <tyreza> DO YOU GET MY QUESTIOON ?
[17:39] <dqwadwqfaewa> no
[17:39] <tyreza> well i  followed a tutorial talking about postfix installation with mysql
[17:39] <tyreza> i have done everything but the authentification the password not match ? i don't know which password i have to use ? ikonia
[17:40] <ikonia> tyreza: you use the passwords you setup for the mail boxes
[17:40] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Is the backports repo something I need to add manually?
[17:40] <tyreza> no one matching
[17:40] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: You should be able to enable it under "system > administration > software sources"
[17:40] <tyreza> if my domain is : mydomain.tld
[17:41] <tyreza> what is the smtp url ?
[17:41] <tyreza> and the imap url ?
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <FloodBot1> dqwadwqfaewa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: If it's not there then a ppa may be your only option
[17:41] <geegeegee> tyreza, to get php to send an email?
[17:41] <ikonia> tyreza: they aren't URL
[17:41] <beniwtv> geegeegee: there is standard and high quality definitions, but it depens if your TV tuner supports HD or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Video_Broadcasting
[17:41] <geegeegee> I just installed sendmail and it worked
[17:41] <geegeegee> oh ok thanks beniwtv
[17:41] <studiotoys> hello
[17:42] <evermean> ikonia: sorry to bother you again but the s bit is not explained on that page
[17:42] <studiotoys> anyone know how to back up konversations server list ?
[17:42] <beniwtv> geegeegee: My USB tuner supports HD and it's 1080p
[17:42] <root_> studiotoys: these guys probably do - #konversation
[17:42] <RobinJ> * FloodBot1 zet modus op +z #ubuntu
[17:42] <RobinJ> * FloodBot1 zet modus op +q #ubuntu dqwadwqfaewa!*@* << uhm... why does it do that in stead of just kicking and banning?
[17:42] <ikonia> evermean: the s bit is setuid which basically makes it execute by the user is was created by/owner
[17:42] <necromancer> is there a way to set up user "aliases"?
[17:42] <cognac-gamma> bye
[17:42] <beniwtv> geegeegee: But not all channels stream in HD :(
[17:42] <necromancer> so if i had an account necromancer@my-vps, i could also access it using tom@my-vps?
[17:43] <geegeegee> im not sure how many HD DVB-T channels there are where i live though
[17:43] <necromancer> and it would be the same user account
[17:43] <nuo> hi every one :)
[17:43] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Any joy?
[17:43] <tyreza> so how i have to  configure it with thunderbird ? ikonia
[17:43] <bgold> hey, can anyone help me install chrome on Natty?
[17:43] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Enabled the backports repo, but it still doesn't seem to have 2.1 available.
[17:43] <root_> necromancer: add many users to the same PID?
[17:43] <bgold> it says i need to install libcurl3, but sudo apt-get install libcurl3 doesn't work
[17:43] <root_> necromancer: add many users to the same UID?
[17:43] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: okay let me check
[17:44] <evermean> ikonia: yeah does that mean that i can execute that file when i am logged in with a different user?
[17:44] <necromancer> root_: yeah i guess...is that possible? :)
[17:44] <tyreza> hello***
[17:44] <root_> necromancer: I think so. look at man usermod
[17:44] <necromancer> thanks
[17:44] <evermean> ikonia: should be like that or am i completely wrong?
[17:45] <carli2> hi
[17:45] <ikonia> evermean: depends on the permissions of the file
[17:46] <carli2> i have this problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg2833429.html
[17:46] <carli2> how can i workaround it?
[17:46] <Flexy> What is kicking up "an application wants to create a new keyring" popup every now and then? I don't want keyrings added...
[17:46] <evermean> ikonia: these are my permission settings: -rwsr--r-- 1 testuser testuser 8385 2011-04-01 18:16 hello*
[17:46] <carli2> when i touch the scroll region of my touchpad, xorg crashes
[17:46] <ikonia> evermean: only the file owner could execute that
[17:47] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. Does this look right? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffjassky/5580067910/#/photos/jeffjassky/5580067910/lightbox/
[17:47] <nuo> when it boot with the last version of kernel i get an error (invalid compression system halted ) but when i boot with the old one on recovery mode it work ,how i can fix this?
[17:47] <JeffJassky> why are there so many processes for apache running?
[17:47] <carli2> where is the natty channel?
[17:47] <KB1JWQ> JeffJassky: Probably because of the number of threads/children for apache is set that way?
[17:47] <KB1JWQ> carli2: #ubuntu+1
[17:47] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreato <-- This lists 2.1.0 only on the Natty Narwhal, does that mean I have to upgrade my Ubuntu to get 2.1 into the package manager?
[17:48] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Someone filed a bug about QT Creator 2.1 not being in the maverick backports repo
[17:48] <JeffJassky> KB1JWQ: Is that normal? I'm rather new to server admin..
[17:48] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: I would not upgrade to an unstable build of ubuntu just for one app
[17:48] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Cheers, did it say anything about when it would be fixed?
[17:48] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: seems that it may not be, people seem to be compiling it themselves
[17:49] <Flexy> What is kicking up "an application wants to create a new keyring" popup every now and then?
[17:49] <MadCarburetor> Hi
[17:49] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Meh, guess that leaves me with the option to install it from outside the package manager.
[17:49] <evermean> ikonia: hmmm so where is the point then? Lets say I change the permission to that any member of the testuser group can execute that progam, if some user does, the program will be run as testuser and not as user XYZ...did i get it right?
[17:49] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: yeah sadly
[17:49] <nuo> hi MadCarburetor,
[17:50] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Canonical really need to handle this better
[17:50] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: having to upgrade your entire OS to get a new version of an application is completely brain dead
[17:50] <Witchsong> XD
[17:51] <Kor9999> hi, Does anyone know how I can leave my wireless card on all the time?, ubuntu always turn it off when I put to sleep the netbook, I shut it down or put into hibernation. The problem is that ubuntu still does not recognize the card and I have to restart your computer.
[17:51]  * Paddy_NI waits for debian rolling
[17:51] <MadCarburetor> I Downloaded a zip file of 175mb, But the only folder in it is 169.5mb, Which is the size of the zip file larger then its contents
[17:52] <Witchsong> Either your file included hidden files, was broken or the algorithm didn't handle those data too well when it packed the zip. :P
[17:53] <Combatjuan> How do I use apt-get to install from source?  If I do "% apt-get build-dep package_name; apt-get source --compile package_name" then I end up with a bunch of debs.  Must I use dpkg to actually install?
[17:54] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Just to check, should I uninstall the 2.0.1 version from the package manager before I install 2.1? Or doesn't that really matter on Ubuntu?
[17:54] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: yes, use the generated debs
[17:54] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: I would just to keep things from getting confused
[17:55] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: But dpkg doesn't handle dependencies and whatnot.  Or does it?  Or do I not need to worry about that since build-dep theoretically took care of that for me?
[17:55] <Kor9999> hi everybody, Does anyone know how can i leave my wireless card on all the time?, ubuntu always turn it off when I put to sleep the netbook, I shut it down or put into hibernation. The problem is that ubuntu still does not recognize the card and I have to restart your computer.
[17:55] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: No, you need to install them in order, else it will error out for the dependencies
[17:55] <Roasted> Has anybody ran Ubuntu on a Windows domain using Likewise Open? I'm curious if there's a way to still log in as a domain user even when you're away from the domain, such as Windows can.
[17:56] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Yeah, that was the issue I was worried about. After installing NVIDIA official drivers alongside the nvidia-current package I am somewhat doubtful to installing versions alongside each other. :p
[17:56] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: Forgive my insistence.  It seems like apt-get should have an --install option or something (for the source command) while would handle that for me.  You're sure nothing like that exists.
[17:56] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: sometimes that is handled very well.. its just not consistent yet
[17:57] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: I'm not aware of one, I always install manually, try the man page.
[17:57] <genii-around> Combatjuan: apt-get -b source package
[17:57] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: I did, of course, try the man page.  Thanks for your help.
[17:58] <Combatjuan> genii-around: The man page makes it appear as though -b is the same as --build is the same as --compile.
[17:58] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: Also, I think if all the external dependencies are satisfied, you can use *.deb and it'll install them in order...
[17:59] <genii-around> Combatjuan: Ah, you want it to actually put the binaries compiled into their system areas, etc?
[17:59] <Combatjuan> genii-around: Yes.
[17:59] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: When I try remove the qtcreator package, it also tries to remove the qt-sdk package - does that mean it's a part of the sdk and I cannot remove one without removing the other?
[17:59] <Witchsong> (Sorry for asking a lot)
[17:59] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: Good idea.  I'll try that.
[18:00] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Yeah one is a dependency of the other
[18:01] <mello> Hi! im trying to install ubuntu 110.04 on a virtual pc, but i cant get unity to work. how come? i have a nvida graphic card if thats a problem, and my os is ubuntu 10.10
[18:01] <IdleOne> mello: #ubuntu+1 for natty/11.04 help
[18:01] <Witchsong> And also, what is the difference between Mark for Removal and Mark for Complete Removal in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[18:01] <mello> ok thnx IdleOne
[18:01] <Witchsong> Does Removal leave something behind?
[18:02] <beniwtv> Witchsong: It leaves your configuration intact
[18:02] <IdleOne> Witchsong: complete removal also removes the config files for the app.
[18:02] <Witchsong> Ah, bit like the "Remove user files and settings" that often are in Windows uninstallers?
[18:02] <IdleOne> correct
[18:03] <dtcrshr> on ubuntu server, how do i disable users fron granting root access by using sudo su root?
[18:03] <dtcrshr> i got none of them um the visudo list, only root all all all
[18:03] <thevishy> mplayer vs vlc ?
[18:03] <IdleOne> !polls
[18:03] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: If they are not in the admin group, they have no sudo access
[18:04] <thevishy> ok
[18:04] <Witchsong> thevishy: I use VLC because MPlayer gave low-resolution subtitles for me.
[18:05] <tschundeee> please help: which eclipse distro for playframework.org web-dev?
[18:05] <thevishy> thanks , I like the sound of vlc (amoplification)
[18:05] <dtcrshr> beniwtv, so I have two options, remove them from the admin group, or list theyr names in visudo with something as user = none none none ?
[18:06] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: Yes, I usually go and remove them from the admin group, as they do not need it.
[18:07] <Combatjuan> dtcrshr: If you specifically want to keep them from using the su command, sudo allows for that.  I've never done it, but it's quite possible.
[18:07] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: But you can still assign them to other groups like audio, etc...
[18:07] <Roasted> Has anybody ran Ubuntu on a Windows domain using Likewise Open? I'm curious if there's a way to still log in as a domain user even when you're away from the domain, such as Windows can.
[18:09] <thevishy> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <ikonia> Roasted: most ldap clients will allow cached credentials the same as windows, I do this all the time
[18:09] <Roasted> ikonia, are you using likewise open with ubuntu?
[18:09] <ikonia> not likewise specfically
[18:10] <dtcrshr> I see. well i need them to be able to run commands with sudo, but i want to block them to get as root. since sudo su root works, i didnt figure out how to do that
[18:10] <Roasted> ikonia, did you have to do something special to cache the credentials? or did it function like that by default?
[18:10] <woonix> Roasted: Likewise Enterprise for sure supports cached credentials. I don't know if the Open version has that stripped off.
[18:10] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: In that case, you can specifically set the commands that are enabled/disabled in sudo
[18:10] <Roasted> woonix, it wouldn't surprise me, I suppose. It didn't work for me on version 6 of likewise open. but at the same time I wasn't sure if I had to set something to do that or not.
[18:10] <ikonia> Roasted: as I recall it is a schema option in the AD schema that you enable as the machines join the domain, you also have a cached period, eg: allow cached credentials for 3 weeks before teh need for a new access token
[18:11] <woonix> Roasted, you'd think something like that would be on by default, if it were available at all.
[18:11] <Roasted> ikonia, I think I understand. Are you basically referring to it as there must be a "switch" to enable during the join process?
[18:12] <wildc4rd> evenin' all!
[18:12] <RobinJ> food! xD http://www.mustardsnack.com/
[18:12] <ikonia> Roasted: not quiet, it's normally part of the AD schema settings and when your linux machine joins the domains it takes those settings to it's local setting
[18:12] <Combatjuan> dtcrshr: Unfortunately, I can't help you on the specifics.  And it might be tricky to keep people from getting around it (by, for example sudo vim /etc/sudoers themselves).  But look at man sudoers and search for "Cmnd".  Presumably someone else has done this too.  But I've have little luck searching.
[18:12] <larious> ayecee: are you there
[18:12] <ikonia> RobinJ: why did you post that in an ubuntu support channel ?
[18:13] <Roasted> ikonia, so it's likely if our windows boxes do that by default, then you'd expect it to be enabled - and therefore available for our ubuntu machines as well, right?
[18:13] <dtcrshr> beniwtv,where to i do that? i want users to dont be able to use sudo su root and be root with theyr own password. users would only be root if they log in as this, wich they have to know the password
[18:13] <dtcrshr> Combatjuan, oh thanks
[18:13] <meelu> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:13] <meelu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:13] <ikonia> Roasted: that's a reasonable assumtion yes, however I'm sure there maybe clients that behave differently, but the generic openldap ones certainly play by the AD policies
[18:13] <meelu> can anyone help quickly one that plz
[18:13] <dtcrshr> ill google some more then. quite worried about this access policy under ubuntu server
[18:13] <ikonia> meelu: close all your package manager windows
[18:13] <meelu> i was runnig a setup i stoped it
[18:14] <meelu> ikonia how? killall -9?
[18:14] <ikonia> meelu: however you want
[18:14] <larious> having a problem install my deb package, can anyone help me out?
[18:14] <Roasted> ikonia, appreciate the feedback. I posted this question on likewise forums, but their forums aren't the most active in the world. I suppose I'll take my chances and be patient and see what they come back with.
[18:14] <meelu> i dunno how please help
[18:14] <Roasted> ikonia, at least their linux section isn't.
[18:14] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: See the man page. I would create a group for them, and specifically enable the commands they are allowed to execute. Else, they might find a way around it as Combatjuan mentioned.
[18:14] <Kayron> Hello...I have a question. I’m using cksfv on a 32bit system. It seems report size of files incorrectly...could this be related?
[18:14] <woonix> Roasted, I'm looking at the Open vs Enterprise comparison, and for the Open version it mentions the ability to apply a group policy to Linux systems to "Logon using Kerberos authentication and allow cached logon credentials", so it sounds like the feature exists in Open.
[18:14] <ikonia> Roasted: it's worth as you're doing checking client specific info, but generic yes, cached credentials are fine
[18:14] <wildc4rd> looking for help getting an onboard sound card to work
[18:15] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: Ideally, non-primary users should not need root access anyway.
[18:15] <larious> having a problem install my deb package, can anyone help me out?
[18:15] <meelu> how do i close packet manager windowS?
[18:15] <Kayron> different size from ls -la output
[18:15] <meelu> package
[18:15] <meelu> manager
[18:15] <Roasted> woonix, could you link me to what you're looking at by chance?
[18:15] <ikonia> meelu: are there any package manager windows open ?
[18:15] <larious> having a problem install my deb package, can anyone help me out?
[18:15] <woonix> Roasted, http://www.likewise.com/products/likewise_open/comparing_enterprise_and_open.php  it's at the bottom in the Feature Comparison table.
[18:15] <ikonia> larious: try telling us the problems
[18:15] <Roasted> woonix, appreciate it bro.
[18:15] <Roasted> you too ikonia
[18:15] <Combatjuan> larious: What seems to be the problem?
[18:15] <mello> i have 3 hdd in my computer, one with the ubuntu os on it and the other are just for everything else, the problem is that ubuntu sees them as virtual drives and they dont start with the computer i have to manually mount them, can i change this so they mount whe nthe computer start?
[18:15] <meelu> there could be ikonia, i was setting up nginx and pressed ctrl + z when it was doing sometim
[18:16] <Roasted> woonix, hey, by cahnce are you using version 6?
[18:16] <Roasted> woonix, like do you USE likewise open?
[18:16] <ikonia> meelu: can you visually see any package manager windows ?
[18:16] <meelu> i cant visually see anything i am remotely connecting through putty ikonia? you mean grep?
[18:16] <woonix> Roasted, I never heard of it until you mentioned it. I learned something new today :)
[18:16] <larious> Combatjuan: Errors were encountered while processing: openvpn
[18:16] <ikonia> ok, remove the /var/lib/dpkg/lock file thenm
[18:16] <meelu> top i mean
[18:17] <Roasted> woonix, hahaha, sounds good. I was just curious because version 5.4 (or 5.2, whatever it is) in the 10.10 repos come with a GUI. In version6  I installed from the site I joined via terminal. I was curious where my GUI app for it went. :(
[18:17] <larious> Combatjuan: did you got my msg
[18:18] <solstice> hi. is unity the default gui on beta 1 ? because I only got an empty left and top desktop. and on second boot, I got what seems to be a gnome desktop with changed top bar
[18:18] <Combatjuan> larious: Yes.  You'd be wise to settle down a bit though.  Helping takes time.  What command did you run?
[18:18] <ZarroBoogs> solstice : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[18:18] <solstice> ok
[18:18] <larious> Combatjuan: sudo dpkg -i openvpn_2.2-beta5-ubuntu0_i386.deb
[18:20] <Combatjuan> larious: Use a paste site (e.g. http://goo.gl/ixcN9) and past the full output of the command.  Also, tail /var/log/dpkg.log and see if anything interesting is there.
[18:21] <mello> i have a hdd that is 1tb big and it crashes all the time in ubuntu, hade the same problem in windows but when i updatet my graphic card it fixed it. how can i solve this problem in ubuntu?
[18:22] <efesto> emmm, well, about my previous question, the solve was easy, i should update the bios
[18:22] <efesto> acer bios "by default" is very bad... sorry... noob problem
[18:22] <efesto> and thanks for hear me :)
[18:23] <larious> Combatjuan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588329/
[18:23] <chasarey> hola
[18:24] <woonix> chasarey, buenos dias
[18:24] <chasarey> hay alguien?
[18:24] <chasarey> hola woonix
[18:24] <root_> what's the cli command to grab a file from the internet and put it in the working directory?
[18:24] <ikonia> wget
[18:24] <root_> ty sir
[18:24] <ikonia> or curl
[18:25] <yomismomis> hola a todo
[18:25] <Combatjuan> larious: Looks like dependency problems.  openvpn can't be installed because it requires some other packages.  You'll have to grab liblz02, libpkcs11-helper, openvpn-blacklist and whatever others are needed (probably from the same place as you got the openvpn deb).
[18:25] <meelu> damn
[18:25] <meelu> root@server56151:~# lsof | grep /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[18:25] <meelu> apt-get   12173     root   23uW     REG              251,2        0   67371498 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[18:25] <meelu> root@server56151:~# killall -9 12173
[18:25] <meelu> 12173: no process found
[18:25] <FloodBot2> meelu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <meelu> the duck man how do i kill that
[18:26] <Combatjuan> larious: Is there some reason you can't use the openvpn packages in the official repository (apt-get install openvpn)?
[18:26] <woonix> meelu, killall is used with a process name, not a pid. Just use regular kill with the process id
[18:26] <larious> Combatjuan: but there is no other file like that there
[18:27] <ZarroBoogs> !aptfix | meelu
[18:28] <meelu> didnt elp
[18:28] <meelu> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:28] <Combatjuan> larious: Wherever "there" is, why use it instead of the ubuntu repository?  Installing 3rd party .debs is much harder and potentially dangerous compared to using your distro's packages.  There must be a reason you're using other ones.
[18:28] <wildc4rd> can I run Ubuntu purely from an SD card, on a preinstalled HP laptop that I don't want to disrupt the disk of?
[18:28] <beniwtv> meelu: It is not killall, but kill
[18:28] <yomismomis> alguien ha conseguido instalar el simulador espacial pioneer?, me da un error  "no se encuentra gl""
[18:28] <ZarroBoogs> !es | yomismomis
[18:28] <meelu> beniwtv thanks
[18:29] <Scunizi> If I have an onboard nvidia graphics card with hdmi, vga & dvi out, can I use all three at the same time?  2 work well together already.
[18:29] <larious> Combatjuan: my ubuntu is offline, I cant go online without fixing up two package, that package will help me to go online
[18:30] <mello> i have a hdd that is 1tb big and it crashes all the time in ubuntu, hade the same problem in windows but when i updatet my graphic card it fixed it. how can i solve this problem in ubuntu?
[18:30] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: Yes, you can install to a SD/removable drive, supposing it has enough space.
[18:30] <DasEi> !ot
[18:30] <Morten_> Hi, does anyone have any experience with DLNA and a linux machine?
[18:31] <Combatjuan> larious: I see.  It'll be tedious, but you'll need to grab all those packages openvpn requires.  I recommend getting them from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for whatever version you're using.
[18:31] <ayush_> anyone else have problems with the beta1 iso?
[18:31] <wildc4rd> beniwtv, its 16 gig, should be fine I imagine
[18:31] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: Yes, minimum is 3GB IIRC
[18:32] <wildc4rd> beniwtv, I can keep it entirely separate? including the bootloader
[18:32] <Combatjuan> larious: To get a full list of dependencies: "% apt-cache depends openvpn"
[18:33] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: Yes, there is an option in the installer to put GRUB on another drive, not the primary drive.
[18:34] <lovesthethianood> hi my kubuntu desktop has vanished taking along my menu bar/everything. right clicking does nothing. help please?
[18:34] <kyan> Hello. My computer has suddenly become very slow, after attempting to run disk wiping Also, my external hard drive has refused to mount automatically on boot, which (mostly) it has previously done.
[18:34] <kyan> What should I do to diagnose and solve those problems?
[18:35] <edbian> lovesthethianood, alt + F2 works?
[18:35] <dagon666> ikonia: hello again, unfortunately after changes in mdadm.conf I still cannot boot the raid5 without one drive missing
[18:35] <beniwtv> kyan: The "dmesg" command in the terminal might give some hints
[18:35] <ikonia> dagon666: whats the current array setup
[18:35] <ricorx7> kyan: did it get warmer
[18:36] <dagon666> ikonia: nothing changed, I got back from work and decided to do some tests with monitor and keyboard connected to see acutal output during the boot process, if I take away one drive it wont boot, if every drive is inserted it boots fine
[18:36] <wildc4rd> cheers beniwtv, I'll give it a bash
[18:36] <ikonia> dagon666: are the drives all the same size ?
[18:36] <dagon666> ikonia: yes
[18:37] <gslack> edbian,  i think i sorta fixed my DHCP issue last night, at least temporarily
[18:37] <Sticks_tlab> hello
[18:37] <dagon666> it saids that the drive cannot be assembled only, than it lands up in initramfs shell
[18:37] <Sticks_tlab> could someone enlighten me as to which /dev/? corresponds to a usb microphone?
[18:37] <kyan> beniwtv: Thanks. I am looking through that now.
[18:37] <ikonia> dagon666: I think you're falling into the /boot problem
[18:37] <kyan> ricorx7 : Sorry, what do you mean??
[18:37] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: Just make sure to read the options to not make any mistakes, or disconnect the internal HDD (may not be possible to do without voiding warrany on some laptops)
[18:37] <louigi> guys, have several processes in system monitor, nothing running COU close to 100%
[18:37] <louigi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299501
[18:37] <louigi> similar to that topic
[18:37] <ikonia> dagon666: does it matter which drive you remove ?
[18:38] <Sticks_tlab> ive been searching for more than an hour and can only find /dev/audio, /dev/dsp/ all of which are not listed
[18:38] <louigi> there he says it is system monitor bug
[18:38] <louigi> is it so?
[18:38] <gslack> so far so good, 5 restarts swapping os's each time and so far it hasn't happened
[18:38] <dagon666> ikonia: I dont think so, I tried with two different and it acted the same
[18:38] <Blue1> !pastebin
[18:38] <gslack> even tried booting lucid puppy live  cd and all still works
[18:38] <ricorx7> kyan: temperature in room could increase temp in system, i have found when i notice my computer slowing down, it usually is when temp changes occur
[18:38] <wildc4rd> aye, thanks beniwtv, but I don't keep anything important on it, and I have a restore disk if the worst happens, lol
[18:39] <genii-around> Combatjuan: Did you still want to know how to get apt-get source --compile      to auto install?
[18:39] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: ok, then you should be fine :)
[18:39] <Sticks_tlab> anyone? knowledge of which device is the right one for an external microphone or else inbuilt microphone???
[18:39] <dagon666> ikonia: I'll try to make a picture of this fail screen if you think it will be helpful in anyway ?
[18:39] <kyan> ricorx7 : Temperature is probably within 45 to 53 degrees  Farhenheit.
[18:39] <Combatjuan> genii-around: Yes please.  I did end up doing "% dpkg -i *.deb" and that seems to have worked though.  But for future reference, it'd be nice.
[18:40] <gslack> before booting a live session of any distro, would always bring the DHCP failure but not so far
[18:40] <kyan> ricorx7: Is that a good temperature for it?
[18:40] <sai-kumar> Hi...
[18:40] <ricorx7> kyan: ya, im usually talking about outside temps around 70-80 degrees f
[18:41] <genii-around> Combatjuan: The idea is to make an /etc/apt/apt.conf that contains what is at here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588335/
[18:41] <GOMI> my pc always crashes is theire a way to what the main problem is
[18:41] <Sticks_tlab> no suggestions? I want to get an alsa program to run to capture microphone input, but i cannot locate the device that corresponds to the microphone
[18:41] <ayush_> how do I start usb-creator?
[18:41] <kyan> ricorx7: It's probably fine then … Thanks.
[18:41] <ricorx7> kyan: look at dmesg
[18:42] <larious> Combatjuan: can this package openvpn-blacklist_0.1-0ubuntu0.8.04.1_all.deb work for Ubuntu 10.04
[18:42] <Combatjuan> larious: No idea.  Seems like you should be able to find an official one for your version though.
[18:42] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: Try the arecord program in terminal, it can record and/or list your  ALSA devices
[18:42] <Combatjuan> genii-around: Awesome.  Thanks.
[18:43] <gslack> ayush_,  you mean the startup disk creator?
[18:43] <Araneidae> All of a sudden Flash crashes in Chrome, every time I try to run it.  Any suggestions for a fix?
[18:43] <gslack> chrome or chromium?
[18:43] <ayush_> gslack, the program that creates a ubuntu live usb stick
[18:43] <GOMI> chromium
[18:44] <Araneidae> gslack, don't know
[18:44] <kyan> ricorx7: I will pastebin it, but it might take a minute because the computer is taking a long time to do anything :-D
[18:44] <mgaunard> I started an update of ubuntu over ssh, but my connection died
[18:44] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: I already did that, I cannot find correspondence between the feedback of arecord and the content of /dev/
[18:44] <mgaunard> any way I can find it back?
[18:44] <Araneidae> I mean the installed chromium web browser, I guess
[18:44] <Satisfied> possible that ubuntu.com would blacklist IP's ?   I can't connect to the website unless I'm using tor ...
[18:44] <gslack> Araneidae,  well they are different
[18:44] <Kjellski> Can someone tell me how to convert the windows "´" to a ubuntu one? It´s the single apostroph, from the key left to backspace on a german keyboard... in less it appeares as <B4>
[18:45] <Araneidae> Well, I've installed Google Chrome from the repository
[18:45] <Araneidae> Guess that's Chrome
[18:45] <larious> Combatjuan: cnt find any for 10.04
[18:45] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: There is no /dev/ for ALSA, that is OSS, another sound API. For ALSA, programs use the ALSA library directly.
[18:45] <gslack> chromium is the non-google branded one
[18:45] <Araneidae> gslack, right, I get it.  I'm running the branded one
[18:45] <genii-around> Combatjuan: You're welcome
[18:45] <gslack> and being as such they may act differently at least somewhat
[18:45] <gslack> ok google then
[18:45] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: this is the reply of arecord
[18:45] <Sticks_tlab> http://pastebin.com/sAxV2unL
[18:46] <gslack> well u could try using the stable PPA
[18:46] <dagon666> ikonia: can You please take a look: http://hekate.homeip.net/galeria/index.php/Screeny/IMG_1033
[18:46] <gslack> i do
[18:46] <Combatjuan> larious: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/net/ -- Search for openvpn
[18:46] <gslack> haven't had an issue yet
[18:46] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: im trying to use this little program here to get a hang of alsa
[18:46] <Araneidae> I'd rather delete the appropriate local state files, but don't know what they are
[18:46] <Sticks_tlab> http://www.equalarea.com/paul/alsa-audio.html
[18:46] <gslack> but its not a gurantee u wont
[18:46] <Sticks_tlab> A Minimal Playback Program
[18:46] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: Yes, these are your ALSA devices. There is no file in /dev for those.
[18:47] <kyan> ricorx7: http://pastebin.com/Np9ka0k5
[18:47] <gslack> also if its 64 bit os or 32 makes a difference with flash as well
[18:47] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: That program uses the ALSA library: #include <alsa/asoundlib.h>
[18:47] <gslack> the 64 bit flash player is buggy at best
[18:47] <Araneidae> Yes, even bbc.co.uk causes "Shockwave Flash" has crashed message
[18:47] <Araneidae> I'm on 32 bit
[18:47] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: You would give it the device name, not the device file.
[18:47] <kyan> ricorx7: I do not see anything that looks particularly abnormal there, but I actually know very little regarding it so I am not the best judge of normality :-)
[18:47] <Araneidae> It's a brand new effect as of today
[18:47] <gslack> ok then u running actual flash or the freeware replacements?
[18:47] <massai29> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL
[18:48] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: Well yes, but I have to enter an argument. Which is the device name right!?
[18:48] <Sharpclaw> Why is Blender so slow on Ubuntu 10.10?
[18:48] <Araneidae> Adobe Flash
[18:48] <gslack> gnash, et al
[18:48] <Nach0z> I have a question for yall: i have some commands I want run when ubuntu starts up, how do I add them to the startup stuff? ;s
[18:48] <Araneidae> I presume the first step is to delete the relevant local state ... any idea where that is?
[18:48] <ikonia> dagon666: few options
[18:48] <gslack> ok , well chrome has a few plugins that are helpful to catch those sort of things
[18:48] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: Yep, probably the program has a way to specify that.
[18:49] <gslack> firebug lite is one
[18:49] <ikonia> dagon666: one, the wait time is too low for the array to assemble, 2) your falling into one of the problems of not having /boot on a sperate non-raid-5 array
[18:49] <woonix> massai29:  #ubuntu-es
[18:49] <kyan> Nach0z: system>preferences>startup applications
[18:49] <gslack> also there are several flash blocking programs out there
[18:49] <Nach0z> kyan: This is a server, it doesn't have menus ;/
[18:49] <Vr_Ray> 1979
[18:49] <gslack> even tho they block falsh they often have useful tools in them as well
[18:49] <gslack> "flash" lol
[18:49] <kyan> Nach0z: Aah... :-P Sorry :-D
[18:50] <dagon666> ikonia: Im wondering why it did not got assembled ? It should all the needed drives were present
[18:50] <coz_> hey all
[18:50] <Nach0z> lol no prob kyan.
[18:50] <Araneidae> Sigh.  Flash :(
[18:50] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: Try arecord -L (upper case) to get device names
[18:50] <gslack> lol yep
[18:50] <gslack> same old same old with flash and linux
[18:50] <gslack> its a lil better but still a hassle
[18:50] <gslack> to be honest i have had no trouble with it at all lately
[18:50] <oCean> Nach0z: see /etc/rc.local
[18:51] <ikonia> dagon666: I thought you said one of the drives was taken oiut
[18:51] <GOMI> is theire anything to replace that "flash"
[18:51] <quant> gslack, there is no problem with flash in gnu/linux except that it's poorly coded and therefore a bit slow, but perfectly usable
[18:51] <dagon666> ikonia: yes, it should got assmbled as degraded
[18:51] <gslack> usable yes but reliable no
[18:51] <quant> GOMI, there is gnash, which doesn't have all the flash functionality, but my suffice
[18:51] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: I figured it out, it is actually the card number
[18:51] <ikonia> dagon666: not if the disk you took out contains info on how to boot it
[18:51] <ikonia> dagon666: hence why /boot is normally not on a raid 5 disk
[18:51] <gslack> well i can only speak for 64 bit last couple years tho
[18:52] <quant> gslack, run 32-bit, if you can
[18:52] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: Strange program, but ok :)
[18:52] <ricorx7> kyan: you can see where the timestamps jump
[18:52] <Araneidae> Hmm.  Wonder what will happen if I delete ~/.cache
[18:52] <ricorx7> kyan: that gives you a clue
[18:52] <gslack> SWF is functional too
[18:52] <quant> !gnash | GOMI
[18:52] <gslack> i have had no issues this past few months
[18:52] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: Well thats what the spec of snd_pcm_open tells me, how can I identify the right number though!?
[18:52] <Araneidae> Nope
[18:52] <gslack> was talking to another who had problems
[18:53] <Sticks_tlab> ah.. arecord
[18:53] <Sticks_tlab> tells me
[18:53] <Sticks_tlab> never mind ^^
[18:53] <beniwtv> Sticks_tlab: arecord
[18:53] <beniwtv> oh... ok :)
[18:53] <Sticks_tlab> thanks for ur help <3
[18:53] <gslack> actually i started using the adobe and chromium PPA's i had no problem
[18:53] <kyan> ricorx7: the jump from line 647 to line 648?
[18:53] <Ransoogard> Help for DVD formatting and burning issues please. K3B, wodim, and cdrecord all failing to record onto or format my DVD+RW discs.
[18:53] <GOMI> cool will look at it
[18:53] <dagon666> ikonia: I dont understand, all the data is on the array itself, none of the disks contains any valuable data on their own. I think its a matter of some strange settings in ubuntu initramfs scripts
[18:53] <ricorx7> kyan: well one was setting up the network took a lot of time
[18:53] <jpmonette> I rebooted my ubuntu today and my mousepad and keyboard isnt working anymore
[18:53] <jpmonette> i cant write or click anything
[18:54] <ikonia> dagon666: it's not
[18:54] <dagon666> unfortunatelly Im not an expert
[18:54] <jpmonette> im dual booting in Windows and everything is fine, so i know it's a problem with Ubuntu
[18:54] <ricorx7> kyan: but i think that will only help on bootup to improve the slowness
[18:54] <ikonia> dagon666: think about it, the information needed to build the array is stored within the initram, yet the initram is stored on the assembled array, how does it know how to assemble the array if the data used to assemble the array is stored on the array
[18:54] <ikonia> dagon666: it's a known issue having /boot on a raid 5 array or a raid 1 array
[18:54] <dagon666> do You know maybe which script is responsible in initramfs for assembling an array during boot time
[18:55] <ikonia> dagon666: sorry, raid 5 or raid 0
[18:55] <ikonia> dagon666: listen to what I'm telling you
[18:55] <beniwtv> ikonia: RAID uses metadata on the HDD
[18:55] <Kjellski> How can I repair a file that I want to read on ubuntu and the file comes from windows?
[18:55] <kyan> ricorx7: Well this is not really a boot issue, beyond that the external hard drives are not mounting (which itself is a whole other bloody nightmare) : this is where opening the main menu takes 2minutes and opening a terminal takes 4
[18:55] <ikonia> beniwtv: yes, I know that
[18:55] <ricorx7> kyan: you could try a livecd to see if it is hardware
[18:55] <ViN86> Kjellski, what type fo file?
[18:55] <woonix> Kjellski: Repair? Is this a plain text file?
[18:55] <kushal2> Hi I have a quick question. If I dualboot Win 7 and Ubuntu, what is the best way to remove Ubuntu without affecting the windows installation?
[18:56] <ikonia> kushal2: delete the ubuntu partition, then re-install the windows boot loader from a windows CD
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> kushal2: boot to win7 cd and reinstate win7 boot loader
[18:56] <beniwtv> ikonia: That is how it knows how to reassemble them, even the alternate installer can boot your arrays when installing
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> kushal2: then boot to windows and remove the ubuntu partitions
[18:56] <Araneidae> Wow.  What is ~/.ccache?  It's *huge*
[18:56] <ricorx7> kyan: if you do not see the slowness on the livecd, then it might be your linux setup
[18:56] <kyan> ricorx7: I don't think it's hardware because it was working last night. Maybe something broke, however.
[18:56] <ikonia> beniwtv: does grub know how to build raid 5 arrays ?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> kushal2: if you used wubi, just use ad remove programs and it's all handled
[18:56] <Kjellski> ViN86: woonix: yes, it´s perl source code and the ´ sign are converted to some ugly Â' or something...
[18:56] <kushal2> but I don't have the windows installer anymore
[18:56] <ikonia> beniwtv: or does it need the info out of initrd to understand what a raid 5 array is
[18:56] <kyan> ricorx7: I thought live cds were always slow :-D
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> kushal2: then you can use the supergrub disk
[18:57] <ricorx7> kyan: it is usually slower then what you see now?
[18:57] <kushal2> ActionParsnip: can I put that on a stick?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> kushal2: sutre
[18:57] <beniwtv> ikonia: I think it supports RAID 1 only, I've used that, but not sure about RAID 5.
[18:57] <woonix> Kjellski: Is that supposed to be a single quote?
[18:57] <kyan> ricorx7: usually I can not detect the time it takes to open a menu, and a terminal opens in about 2 seconds
[18:57] <ikonia> beniwtv: EXACTLY, which is why I'm saying you can't have raid 5  for your /boot partition
[18:58] <ikonia> beniwtv: grub needs the info to know how to deal with the striped disk formats of raid 0 and raid 5
[18:58] <Kjellski> woonix: I think so, yes... it was used like here in "don´t"
[18:58] <kyan> ricorx7: so it's usually (like last night) much faster.
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Araneidae: probably web cache and such
[18:58] <beniwtv> ikonia: Correct
[18:58] <Araneidae> Well, it's gone now
[18:59]  * Araneidae is having a bit of a purge of $HOME
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Araneidae: possibly "ccache is a compiler cache"
[18:59] <woonix> Kjellski: The problem, then, is that the original text editor decided to use fancy directional quotes instead of standard single or double quotes. You can run the file through a script to replace them.
[18:59] <zulax> since a few days, I have seen abnormal activities with my keyboard, it types random num13bers for some letters
[18:59] <Araneidae> Aha!
[18:59] <Araneidae> ActionParsnip, yes, that rings a bell
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Araneidae: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a     please?
[18:59] <kyan> ricorx7: I do not think it's cpu that is making it slow, beacuse it is not very much usage. Possibly a lack of ram, and resultant paging, but I do not know why I would not have experienced it previosuly.
[18:59] <Araneidae> No LSB modules are available.
[18:59] <Araneidae> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:59] <Araneidae> Description:	Ubuntu 10.10
[18:59] <Araneidae> Release:	10.10
[18:59] <Araneidae> Codename:	maverick
[18:59] <FloodBot2> Araneidae: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:59] <Araneidae> Sorry
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Araneidae: cool, yeah use pastebin in future :)
[19:00] <woonix> Kjellski: or a search and replace would work well, if you have a text editor that can do that. If you needed to modify many files, then you would want to automate that task.
[19:00] <Araneidae> Sorry about that
[19:00] <ricorx7> kyan: can you disconnect the problem hdd and still run? If so, give it a try.  Check the system monitor to see if a process is a problem
[19:00] <Araneidae> ActionParsnip, did that tell you anything?
[19:01] <araga> hello  woonix
[19:01] <ricorx7> kyan: admin->system monitor
[19:01] <woonix> kyan: If you install the iotop program, then you can see which processes are accessing your disk the most. That could give you useful information.
[19:01] <Kjellski> woonix: My problem is not the replace in vim ;) the problem is to get the right character :/
[19:01] <Ransoogard> Help for DVD formatting and burning issues please. K3B, wodim, and cdrecord all failing to record onto or format my DVD+RW discs.
[19:01] <kyan> ricorx7: I checked top and did no see anything ; I will look again in system monitor. I will try the hard drive …
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Araneidae: just checking your release name
[19:01] <Araneidae> ok
[19:01] <Deithrian> Can you recommend screen capture software for Ubuntu that will capture mouse and sound?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Araneidae: bleachbit may help
[19:02] <Araneidae> ok
[19:02] <Kjellski> woonix: here is one example, now copied from putty: ... the script, I wonÂ´t override it."; ...
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Deithrian: does 'recordmydesktop' do sound?
[19:02] <w_> Can someone explain me how to change the default GRUB boot order? Can't find it with Google. Thanks
[19:02] <kushal2> ActionParsnip: Do I use Rescatux ?
[19:02] <coz_> Deithrian,  I am testing Kazam Screencaster
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> w_: what do you want to achieve?
[19:02] <coz_> Deithrian,   so far it seems pretty decent
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> kushal2: not used that
[19:02] <Deithrian> coz_ thanks i will give it a shot :)
[19:02] <w_> ActionParsnip: I want to make windows default
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> Deithrian:  recordmydesktop can do sound. but it can have some issues with sound.  I saw some posting on recording destkops the other day. let me look
[19:02] <Deithrian> ActionParsnip no idea o-o
[19:02] <coz_> Deithrian,  no problem
[19:03] <pratheep> how i connect to : ssh.bshellz.net:22
[19:03] <pratheep> firefox is reject
[19:03] <kyan> woonix: ok, thanks. I will install that.
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> Deithrian:  check out http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2010/12/2-linux-screencasting-applications.html
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> pratheep:  try a normal ssh client?
[19:03] <Deithrian> Dr_Willis thank you
[19:03] <pratheep> Dr_:how?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> w_: cd /etc/grub.d; sudo mv 30_os-prober 08_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[19:03] <pratheep> !find ssh
[19:04] <Deithrian> coz_ Kazam Screencaster is not in Software Center ?!
[19:04] <coz_> Deithrian,  the reason I say pretty decent is I have I dual monitor system and it recorded both monitors with very little lag
[19:04] <coz_> Deithrian,  probably not let me find it hold on
[19:04] <w_> ActionParsnip: thanks, will try this
[19:04] <Blue11> !pastebin
[19:04] <Deithrian> coz_ ohh same thing here dual monitors o-o
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> pratheep:  err.. open a terminal.. ssh servername
[19:05] <coz_> Deithrian,    http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/try-kazam-new-screencasting-application.html
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | pratheep
[19:05] <Kjellski> woonix: vim prints this int the lower left corner when I open the file: "Flane/TelnetExecutor.pm" [converted][dos] 639L, 22698C
[19:05] <kyan> ricorx7: I have unplugged the problematic hdd and the computer is still very slow
[19:05] <Deithrian> coz_ and i need something to capture both to illustrate a point about the unity interface
[19:05] <bs_> is there any software for the power saver of battery of laptop???????? in ubuntu
[19:05] <pratheep> thk Dr_willis
[19:05] <Deithrian> coz_ awesome thanks! :)
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> bs_: lxde ;)
[19:05] <coz_> Deithrian,  this might do it,, it is the only one ,, other than soem/yukon << not really installabel easily,, that records dual monitor
[19:05] <truepurple> Ugh, I got big trouble, my internet connection went bad earlier, the phone company has since fixed the line, but I can still not browse online with firefox under ubuntu
[19:05] <vish> ActionParsnip: ;p
[19:06] <Odaym> i had Windows 7 and Ubuntu booting together, and then i installed Kubuntu. I removed the Kubuntu partition, rebooted and then i got "Unknown partition, grub rescue>" command prompt
[19:06] <ricorx7> kyan: did you see any spikes in "system monitor" under cpu, memory or network?
[19:06] <Deithrian> coz_ perfect thanks again :)
[19:06] <woonix> Kjellski: apt-get install flip, and then flip -u <filename> should convert the line-endings to standard Unix style, so that will at least take care of that [converted][dos] message.
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> vish: its true though :D
[19:06] <coz_> Deithrian,  no problem... now I havent tried it with sound ,, so you might have to experiment with it
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  so you had 2 seperate Linux installs and a windows install?  Ubuntu, Kubuntum and windows?
[19:06] <woonix> Kjellski: but the strange character with your quote is another issue
[19:07] <Odaym> yes Dr_Willis
[19:07] <Ransoogard> Please help. :< My DVD+RW disk can't be formatted and I don't know why. I've tried wodim, k3b, and cdrecord and they've all failed.
[19:07] <Vr_Ray> 1980
[19:07] <Odaym> i am now booted from the Kubuntu live cd, and i tried the command "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda" to reinstall grub
[19:07] <Odaym> but it isn't working
[19:07] <kyan> ricorx7: Ah, I could not find system monitor but I found Task Manager under system tools and I have found a culprit : recollindex is using 456,4 mb of ram …and I only have 748 total!
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:   You sure thats the right mountpoint?
[19:07] <ricorx7> kyan: thats good
[19:07] <Odaym> it isn't
[19:08] <Odaym> how can i know?
[19:08] <Odaym> and where is grub supposed to sit?
[19:08] <Odaym> the problem is that the surviving Ubuntu install has lost its grub?
[19:08] <Odaym> right?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | Odaym
[19:08] <edoctoor> QUESTION: How do I RESTORE the MBR on the first Drive?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  the latest linux install took over grub.
[19:08] <Odaym> yes
[19:08] <Odaym> and then i removed it
[19:08] <delac> omgponies!
[19:08] <Odaym> and so no more booting at all?
[19:08] <Odaym> grub overcomes the ones for Windows?
[19:08] <ricorx7> edoctoor: was the first drive windows or linux
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Ransoogard: try: sudo dvd+rw-format -force /dev/sr0
[19:09] <edoctoor> Windows
[19:09] <truepurple> My internet connection went bad earlier, the phone company has since fixed the line, but I can still not browse online with firefox under ubuntu.Anyone know how I might fix this?
[19:09] <kf> hello
[19:09] <ricorx7> edoctoor: do you have a windows cd?
[19:09] <Ransoogard> ActionParsnip: Will do.
[19:09] <edoctoor> ricorx7, Yes I have the windows cd
[19:09] <kyan> ricorx7: Hah! I killed it (had to use -9) and memory usage dropped to almost  nothing!
[19:09] <woonix> truepurple: Go to the File menu and make sure that "Work Offline" is not set.
[19:10] <Odaym> Dr_Willis, where can i know where to install the grub?
[19:10] <Odaym> i mean where to mount it on
[19:10] <Ransoogard> ActionParsnip: I'll try dvd+rw-format from now on. It looks like it's playing nice with my DVD drive.
[19:10] <kyan> ricorx7: …and now it is very fast!
[19:10] <Odaym> on the partition (or hdX) that has a Ubuntu install?
[19:10] <ricorx7> edoctoor: i know on the windows cd there is a ways, i forget if it was rescue mode or a seperate utility, you can google it though
[19:10] <Ransoogard> Will give a shout back if I have troubles or if it works in the end.
[19:10] <kyan> ricorx7: Thank you!! Now I can begin working on the hdd … :-P
[19:10] <ricorx7> kyan: thats good
[19:11] <truepurple> woonix: It wasn't checked
[19:11] <Ransoogard> Er, *dvd+rw-tools
[19:11] <Kjellski> woonix: I've managed to get it ;) That character was single quote and backspace afterwards like the bash execution quotes ´`
[19:11] <edoctoor> ricorx7, I think your right
[19:11] <edoctoor> thanks
[19:11] <kyan> ricorx7: …and I've disabled it from the startup applications so I do not have to do this again!
[19:11] <woonix> Kjellski: Good, now you can get on with your life :)
[19:12] <ricorx7> kyan: good idea
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  mount point dosent matter.
[19:12] <Odaym> i see
[19:12] <edoctoor> ricorx7, have a great day... I really appreciate your time... peace
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  and you want to put grub on /dev/sda most likely
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Odaym: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint /dev/sda --recheck
[19:12] <truepurple> woonix: Any other ideas?
[19:13] <woonix> truepurple: Are you chatting from your ubuntu system now?
[19:13] <w__> ActionParsnip: thanks, worked just as I wanted. You are my hero!
[19:13] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: I still have the same problem, the api spec was obsolete, its actually the ASCII indentifier of the PCM handle
[19:13] <Odaym> is "InstalledSystemMountPoint" supposed to be filled by me, Dr_Willis?
[19:13] <aditya_> hello everyone
[19:13] <Sticks_tlab> beniwtv: Any clue on what that is?
[19:13] <truepurple> woonix: Yeah, so it must be the browser I figure
[19:13] <Odaym> how do i  see on my system what is mounted where?
[19:14] <Odaym> with "df"?
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  Makes sence dont it.. heh..
[19:14] <woonix> truepurple: well, what happens when you try to browse a page? Does it just time out?
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> df = disk free.. mount = shows mounted filesystems
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  if its mounted use 'mount' to see where' if not' use mount to mount it somewhere
[19:15] <aditya_> hey has anyone noticed this, the system freezes without mouse move.
[19:15] <truepurple> woonix: Yeah, a really long time waiting as it tries to fetch the page, then nothing. Sometimes I can squeek out a tiny bit of internet here and there, but mostly not
[19:15] <aditya_> just like hibernation accept the system is not hibernating
[19:15] <Ransoogard> ActionParsnip: growisofs seems like it's doing the trick.
[19:15] <woonix> truepurple: have you tried accessing different pages?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> w__: np man
[19:15] <aditya_> downloads stop and when u move ur mouse they start again
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Ransoogard: sweet
[19:16] <truepurple> woonix Yeah, lots of em, and big names too, google, bing, hotmail, yahoo etd
[19:16] <aditya_> hey ur browser is in offline mode
[19:16] <Ransoogard> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help. I think cdrecord and wodim aren't optimized or meant for DVD burning. :/
[19:16] <aditya_> remove the work offline option
[19:16] <Ransoogard> See ya. Hopefully this works.
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> I thought cdrecord was wodim these days..
[19:17] <truepurple> adiya: Are you talking to me? No it isn't.
[19:17] <aditya_> ok
[19:17] <aditya_> wat seems to be the problem
[19:17] <truepurple> My internet connection went bad earlier, the phone company has since fixed the line, but I can still not browse online with firefox under ubuntu.
[19:17] <aditya_> U cannot browse any content on the net
[19:17] <truepurple> But I can be on IRC on that same machine
[19:17] <woonix> truepurple: I'd go to a terminal and "ping -c 5 www.google.com" and see if you get a response, how fast it is, and if there is any packet loss.
[19:17] <aditya_> so u get page time out for everyting
[19:17] <aditya_> everything
[19:18] <owner> Привет всем)
[19:18] <truepurple> woonix: Use quotes?
[19:18] <woonix> truepurple: no, I used quotes to delimit the command to make it easy to read in irc
[19:18] <truepurple> aditya: Yeah, except sometimes it squeeks out just a tiny bit of internet
[19:18] <aditya_> ok
[19:19] <woonix> truepurple: the -c 5 makes it go five times, otherwise it will keep pinging forever.
[19:19] <aditya_> Well an easy way to check if its a browser fault of internet fault is to ping the site from terminal
[19:19] <borillion>  Here is a stupid question, when you hit up arrow when you are in terminal and it shows you commands you put in before, does anyone know where you can see a list of them?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  cat .history
[19:19] <ricorx7> history
[19:20] <borillion> thanks
[19:20] <aditya_> open terminal and type ping www.google.com
[19:20] <woonix> truepurple: Do you have any networking experience? There's a program called wireshark that can trace your connection attempt including any traffic in and out, which is often helpful when troubleshooting network issues, but it takes a bit of understanding to interpret the results.
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  thats the history feature of the bash shell. dont rely on those commands always being there. :) if you run one then more shell at a time they can change
[19:20] <urthmover> I am unable to hear my speakers when I plug into the headphone jack.  I have tried the three different output type in the sound preferences to no availe.  Where do I begin to trouble shoot this?
[19:20] <ZarroBoogs> !who
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  check the history command for more info
[19:20] <aditya_> if u do not get request timed out then we can debug the browser
[19:20] <maislandsam> hi
[19:20] <woonix> maislandsam: hi!
[19:20] <Odaym> Dr_Willis, in the mount, i got this line "dev/sda5 on /media/disk type ext4", so this should be my installed system mount point right?
[19:21] <truepurple> woonix: Ok done, it seemed to ping just fine
[19:21] <maislandsam> hi w
[19:21] <borillion> Dr_Willis I know they change and get written over :D
[19:21] <aditya_> Ok
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  check the contensts of /media/disk   that is a linux filesystem yes.. i dont know if thats your / or /home or could be somthing else.
[19:21] <Odaym> im going to do "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/sda5 /dev/sda --recheck" is that right?
[19:21] <maislandsam> were u from
[19:21] <aditya_> Go to firefox and clear cache and cookies
[19:21] <maislandsam> brb
[19:21] <truepurple> woonix: I can't download anything with my browser, anyway its clear that the browser is at fault
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  No... your MOUNTPOINT is not /dev/sda5
[19:21] <aditya_> also set the proxy settings to auto detect proxy
[19:22] <Odaym> i will cd to /media/disk
[19:22] <Odaym> what should i find there?
[19:22] <Odaym> or what shouldn't i find..
[19:22] <ranjan> truepurple, what is the problem with your browser?
[19:22] <Odaym> no such file or directory..
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  if its your /  you sould see root, etc, tmp, boot, and other system dirs
[19:22] <woonix> truepurple: you said it was firefox?
[19:22] <Odaym> it isn't
[19:22] <Odaym> remember im from a live cd yes
[19:23] <raven> possible to mount lvm drives on their own?
[19:23] <aditya_> truepurple : r u still talking with me?
[19:23] <truepurple> woonix: Yeah firefox
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  your old installed systems's / would still show a tmp, root, and other dirs..
[19:23] <ranjan> raven, lvm support is not there in the default installation i think for ubuntu
[19:23] <truepurple> woonix: The problem with my browser firefox is that it is no longer retreaving internet
[19:23] <Odaym> but "cd /media/disk" says no such file or directory, Dr_Willis
[19:24] <woonix> raven: What do you mean by that? You should be able to mount any of your logical partitions anywhere you want, individually.
[19:24] <genii-around> truepurple: Perhaps check under File in firefox's menu to see if Work Offline has a checkmark
[19:24] <ranjan> truepurple, any proxy or something between you and internet?
[19:24] <woonix> I asked him about Offline mode, he already checked that it is not set.
[19:24] <truepurple> Not that I set up
[19:24] <truepurple> @ranjan
[19:24] <Polah> truepurple: DNS servers?
[19:24] <airstrike> you have GOT to be kidding me.
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  check your spelling then. or what mount command says is mounted where
[19:24] <woonix> he's on IRC from the same box, so there's something wierd going on and he was able to ping www.google.com from a terminal.
[19:24] <NCS_One> hi
[19:24] <truepurple> Polah: I don't understand that very short question
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> Odaym:  rember CASE is ImporNtAnT
[19:24] <jiltdil> how to hide the name Apache from being telnet i have hide the version name and the OS name but the Apache name is still there ?
[19:24] <xman> hola
[19:25] <Odaym> yes
[19:25] <airstrike> fspot just overwrote an entire directory without asking for any confirmation
[19:25] <ranjan> truepurple, can you ping to google?
[19:25] <xman> q hay?
[19:25] <airstrike> what kind of developer writes this?
[19:25] <raven> woonix, my server does not mount the lvm any more so i want to try to get the files off the drives themselfes
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  clarify 'from being telnet'
[19:25] <ikonia> jiltdil: server tokens, change them to production
[19:25] <ranjan> jiltdil, hi,
[19:25] <xskydevilx> I just downloaded a rpm install package (for Lotus Symphony) and i converted it using Alien and installed it, but it doesn't show up in the menu. Where does it install, and how do I run it?
[19:25] <elkng> I want to add Internet to local PC, and I have remote PC with Internet-link, so I did the next: on remote PC I run "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p all -j MASQUERADE;" and "echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" after than on local PC I run: "route add default gw remote_ip" and now from local PC I can "ping" external hosts but I cant browse web, "dig" is worked and I can open some sites like "www.3gpp.org" or "www.findsounds.com" but some sites just stuck on l
[19:25] <NCS_One> where can I find a good tutorial about how to build a app from source to my home?
[19:25] <truepurple> ranjan Yes, and I can be on IRC like this too
[19:25] <jiltdil> ikonia:but it is only hiding Apache version
[19:25] <Polah> truepurple: are you using your default DNS servers? Try changing them in your internet settings. Edit connections > IPv4 > Automatic (DHCP) addresses only
[19:26] <ikonia> jiltdil: change the server tokens to production
[19:26] <Polah> truepurple: Try "8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4" in the first input box.
[19:26] <ranjan> truepurple, did you try multiple browsers
[19:26] <ricorx7> NCS_One: to my home? what do you mean
[19:26] <ranjan> Polah, but he is able to access IRC
[19:26] <truepurple> Ranjan I only have one browser
[19:26] <Odaym> !grub2
[19:26] <jiltdil>  ranjan:hi
[19:26] <woonix> raven: do a lvscan to scan for your logical partitions, and it should give you a path to /dev/something/something that you can use in a mount command, assuming that your system isn't broken.
[19:26] <NCS_One> ricorx7: ~/bin
[19:26] <kyan> Hello again! When I boot, my external hard drive does not automatically mount. Usually it does, but it has been failing to do so with rapidly increasing frequency, and now I can not mount it at all.
[19:26] <truepurple> Polah What do you mean,  "first input box"?
[19:27] <ricorx7> NCS_One: do "make help" usually its --prefix
[19:27] <raven> woonix, it says the lvm is "inactive"
[19:27] <Polah> truepurple: The one labelled "DNS Servers:"
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> kyan:  i hope you made backups...
[19:28] <Polah> ranjan: I remember someone saying at one point that IRC is a bit different when it comes to DNS
[19:28] <truepurple> Polah: One of what? You have lost me
[19:28] <kyan> Dr_Willis: I didn't :-(
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Polah:  ive seen many other people able to IRC but not connect to web sites also..  never have figured how irc works smarter.. or else the irc clients cache the info
[19:28] <woonix> raven: Can you give me a bit of history? Did you break something by accident, or disable LVM intentionally, or have a drive fail or something?
[19:29] <raven> woonix, i just installed update
[19:29] <Polah> Truepurple: Right click your connection symbol on your panel, go to edit connections, click the connection you are using, click Edit..., go to IPV4 Settings, click the dropdown box, set it to "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only", put "8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4" in the "DNS Servers:" box, save your settings
[19:29] <kyan> I can still get read-only access by manually omunting it, but even if I were to back it up, I do not have sufficient storage space for the nearly 1 terabyte of data in it.
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> kyan:  i would put it away somewhere then. untill you can.
[19:30] <Polah> Kyan: chmod to have write access?
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> kyan:   if a drive failure is detected. the sy stem will try to mount it read-only to keeop the data as safe as possible.
[19:30] <truepurple> Polah: I don't see any connection symbol, and I think I use to see something like that before
[19:30] <ner0x> When I click the "Documents" launcher from the Places toolbar it opens up my music player. Any ideas?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Kyan: what if it suddenly fails? Where is your data if the actuator dies?
[19:31] <woonix> raven: To activate your LVM, try doing vgchange -a y
[19:31] <Polah> Truepurple: It's the arrows pointing up/down or the curved stacked bars. You can add it to your panel with Notification Area
[19:31] <woonix> raven: after that, you should be able to do the lvscan
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> ner0x:  https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/
[19:31] <Polah> ner0x: Edit ~/.gtk-bookmarks to point to the right place
[19:31] <ner0x> Thank you both.
[19:32] <kyan> Polah: Might take a while : it 's a lot of files to chmod.
[19:32] <kyan> Dr_Willis: well, I can write to it as root.
[19:32] <raven> woonix, lvscan tells me still inactive
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> kyan:  if drive is failing.. time to make a backup and worry about other things later..
[19:32] <kyan> ActionParsnip: Um, well, I don't really want to consider that possibilty.
[19:32] <borillion> So I compiled and got some programs working, but I see /opt/geda-gaf-1.6.2/share/applications has some *.desktop files what are these for?
[19:32] <viktor133> it's a nobe question, but can anybody give me a hand installing gimp by command line
[19:32] <kyan> ActionParsnip: :-D
[19:33] <woonix> raven: what about pvscan and vgscan
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  menu 'definition' files used by gnome and kde and other things
[19:33] <Polah> kyan: I don't know how you'll get write access any other way. Just do chmod -R 777 /mount/point
[19:33] <borillion> viktor133: sudo apt-get install gimp?
[19:33] <kyan> viktor133: sudo apt-get install gimp
[19:33] <raven> woonix, problem solved it works
[19:33] <truepurple> Polah: How do I add it to the panel? I could have sworn there was someththing there before, could that be a symptom of why its not working anymore?
[19:33] <raven> woonix, tnx
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> kyan:  what filssytem is the failing hard drive using?
[19:33] <Polah> Truepurple: right click, add to panel, Notification Area
[19:33] <viktor133> right, thanks
[19:34] <borillion> Dr_Willis: does this tell ubuntu what application to use when you click on the file?
[19:34] <kyan> Dr_Willis: FAT16, IIRC
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> kyan:  i dint think you chown or chmod  the variouys windows filesystems.
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  amoung other things yes.
[19:35] <ner0x> Dr_Willis++ # Excellent Worked great.
[19:35] <borillion> Dr_Willis: how do I install those on gnome?
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Kyan: it can and may happen. If you want to run that risk and learn the value of backup the worst possible way thats your call. I suggest you get a 2nd drive just incase. Depe
[19:35] <Starminn> Can anybody tell me where, for themes, the font color for things such as the MeMenu/Notification Applet, along with LibreOffice/Thunderbird are located?
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  when the app is installed system wide.. it should put them in the right location
[19:35] <truepurple> Polah: I clicked add, but nothing happened
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Depends how valuable the data is
[19:35] <kyan> Dr_Willis: I didn't either. :-D
[19:35] <Starminn> (or if it'll make a difference) I understand GTK apps (LibreOffice, etc.) will have issues, but the panel applets having bad colors is annoying me
[19:35] <Polah> truepurple: Reset your panels then.
[19:36] <borillion> Dr_Willis installed system wide? I installed to /opt/
[19:36] <Polah> !resetpanel | truepurple
[19:36] <truepurple> Polah how?
[19:36] <kyan> Polah: Still not writable. Owner: root : Create and delete files. Group: Root : Access files Others: Access files
[19:36] <borillion> Dr_Willis how do you install system wide ? LOL
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  so it should be using the .desktop files for the menu item definitions thats their main use
[19:37] <Polah> kyan: if you set the final digit as 7 it should be readable/writable by everyone. On a second thought, you might want to set it to 666, else it'll make everything executable
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Ner0x: basically you need to reassociate folders with nautilus. If you websearch "places menu opens rhythmnbox ubuntu" you will find a slew of solved how tos
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> If a failing disk/currupted filesystem is detected. the Operating system may automatically remount it -read-only- reguardless of what you try to chmod it to do.
[19:38] <ner0x> Yeah, fixed already. :)
[19:38] <borillion> Dr_Willis how I get Ubuntu to know that when I click on *sch files that it should open them with the programs I just compiled?
[19:38] <Polah> kyan: No hang on, 777. Maybe reset just the files after to 666
[19:38] <woonix> Does this channel have an infobot?
[19:38] <Polah> !ubottu | woonix
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> borillion:  right click a .sch, and use the m enus to define what it should be doign with it.
[19:38] <woonix> Polah: thx ;)
[19:38] <truepurple> Polah, only effect was to lose tomboy and stickpad from panel
[19:38] <kyan> Polah: I'm trying chmod -R 777 now
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> Night all....
[19:39] <Polah> truepurple: Are you on a wired connection?
[19:39] <Kayron> Hello...I have a question. I’m using cksfv on a 32bit system. It seems report size of files incorrectly...could this be related?
[19:39] <Kayron> different size from ls -la output
[19:40] <ikonia> Kayron: how different and what is cksfv
[19:40] <gerrin> can someone help me out, i need the panel reset code
[19:40] <xangua> !panels | gerrin
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[19:40] <gerrin> thank you
[19:41] <truepurple> Polah: What do you mean? Its a modem connected with a ethernet cable
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> !adsl
[19:42] <Polah> truepurple: Hence it's a wired connection. i.e. your computer is connected to your router/modem with a cable. If you're running 10.10 (at least) then you should have an up arrow and a down arrow next to each other at the right of the top panel
[19:42] <woonix> Kayron:  Are the ls sizes all bigger?
[19:43] <truepurple> Polah I don't
[19:43] <Polah> truepurple: And you're on 10.10? That's strange
[19:43] <truepurple> 10.10 64bit
[19:43] <Senix> Whats the channel for woman ubuntu users?
[19:43] <ikonia> Sputnik: #ubuntu-women
[19:43] <truepurple> Senix: What does gender have to do with OS?
[19:43] <ikonia> Senix: #ubuntu-women, sorry Sputnik
[19:43] <Chr|s> will gnome 3.0 package be available for ubuntu 10.10 in repos?
[19:44] <ikonia> Chr|s: doubtful
[19:44] <Polah> Really? A women-specific channel?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Truepurple: under system -> prefs  or  system -> admin  you may see network and you can configure from there
[19:44] <truepurple> I mean seriously, whatcha going to talk about, online linux menstral cycles? :p
[19:44] <woonix> maybe... they have customizations more in tune with their emotions?
[19:45] <ikonia> truepurple: that's not funny or appropriate
[19:45] <Polah> ActionParsnip, truepurple, Preferences > Network Connections (unless you've hidden it with Main Menu)
[19:45] <Chr|s> ikonia, really? how come?
[19:45] <elocina> what kind of channel? an IRC channel?
[19:45] <ikonia> Chr|s: because 10.10 is a gnome 2 distro
[19:45] <truepurple> ikonia: I don't find it so bad, but I won't argue with you, sorry if I offended you
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Truepurple: in many Latin based languages nouns have gender. Could be one answer
[19:46] <kyan> Polah: chmod seems to be doing nothing.
[19:46] <Polah> kyan: Is it giving you a message or anything?
[19:46] <elocina> ikonia, I agree I don't think it's appropriate either
[19:46] <Chr|s> ikonia, so there will be no way to install gnome 3 whatsoever on ubuntu
[19:46] <kyan> Polah: No it just kept using exorbitant amounts of cpu and not changing any permissions, that I could see
[19:47] <Polah> kyan: Try doing a single small directory to test
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Chr|s: with 3rd party ppa yes
[19:48] <truepurple> Polah: You mean File-> preferances? I see a "connection" but not a "network connection"
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Ch|s: its in the natty repo afair but natty is offtopic here ;-)
[19:48] <Polah> TruePurple: No, not File > Preferences. I mean System > Preferences > Network Connections on your GNOME top panel by default.
[19:49] <Polah> Chr|s, #ubuntu+1 for natty stuff, if I'm not mistaken
[19:49] <Polah> Although technically that should be Ubuntu+0.6
[19:49] <kyan> Polah: Same exact response. No terminal output.
[19:50] <Polah> Kyan: Try on one of your ext3/4 filesystems, perhaps its an issue with FAT
[19:50] <truepurple> Polah: OK found it
[19:50] <Polah> Truepurple: Right click your connection symbol on your panel, go to edit connections, click the connection you are using, click Edit..., go to IPV4 Settings, click the dropdown box, set it to "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only", put "8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4" in the "DNS Servers:" box, save your settings
[19:51] <ThunderCO> i wonder if my nick will stay
[19:51] <kyan> Polah: well, the ext4 filesystems I have are working perfectly well. I will check wheher a CD will mount… that will tell whether it is a problem with the hdd or a problem somewhere else…
[19:51] <Wicked> hello all. All i have is 1gig flash drives and im trying to install ubuntu 10.10 desktop from a flash drive...but the stuff im reading says that the flash drive needs to be 2 gigs or bigger for the desktop...but the iso is only 699mb's ?
[19:51] <ruan> @usb
[19:51] <ThunderCO> hello room
[19:52] <ruan> !usb
[19:52] <woonix> ThunderCO: hi!
[19:52] <Polah> kyan: I just googled for a bit. apparently chmod and chown don't work on FAT or NTFS and you need to set the permissions at mount: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/howto-permissions-and-ownership-on-fat-and-ntfs-filesystems-710228/
[19:52] <ThunderCO> how are you
[19:52] <ThunderCO> woonix
[19:52] <serp_> lurkampern
[19:52] <Wicked> ruan, thats what i was looking at.
[19:52] <kyan> Polah: A dvd does not mount automatically either.
[19:53] <ThunderCO> is woonix a bot
[19:53] <woonix> ThunderCO: I'm doing alright, just getting my Ubu system set up. I just installed this morning.
[19:53] <Big_Aziz> allto: hi
[19:53] <ThunderCO> right on
[19:53] <ThunderCO> i just set mine up this morning
[19:53] <woonix> ThunderCO: The channel bot is Ubottu, for future reference.
[19:54] <eveningsky> is it safe and/or desirable to not format my usr partition when switching from ubuntu studio to linux mint?
[19:54] <ThunderCO> oh
[19:54] <terry> eveningsky: It is safe
[19:54] <woonix> ThunderCO: I was recently annoyed when I had an issue during a Windows boot but I had nothing to stare at but the Windows logo, and I had the though "If I was running Linux, it wouldn't be hiding information from me"
[19:55] <truepurple> Polah: You mean, click DSL? That is what I am using. The box is empty though
[19:55] <terry> eveningsky: But why are you switching?  Just like the looks of mint?
[19:55] <ThunderCO> i run both
[19:55] <ThunderCO> windows 7 and ubuntu
[19:55] <ThunderCO> i like ubuntu
[19:56] <terry> eveningsky: Because there's nothing mint can do that ubuntu can not do.
[19:56] <eveningsky> just feel like when I tried it before that I didn't have to solve dumb problems as often.
[19:56] <RCube> hi all.  Im running and have installed php 5.2.x for drupal 6 devlopment.  the update manager keeps nagging me to upgrade php to 5.3.  How do I go about turning that off?
[19:56] <ThunderCO> i was thinking how i was going to set up a printer
[19:56] <terry> eveningsky: Define dumb problems.  (Any specifics?)
[19:56] <RCube> *running on lucid 10.04
[19:56] <woonix> ThunderCO: ok, I'll race you while I try to set up my own printer
[19:56] <eveningsky> dumb problems like my whole system being crashed by an automatic update
[19:57] <truepurple> Polah: You mean, click DSL? That is what I am using. The box is empty though
[19:57] <ThunderCO> ok
[19:57] <catphish> is it possible to place interface configuration in separate files (rhel style)
[19:57] <akavlie> What's the best solution to mount FTP/SSH as a local drive in Ubuntu?
[19:57] <jmurowaniecki> hey dudes, i need some help: RAW images (specially .CR2 files). someone tell me one raw editor who works.
[19:57] <bc81> hi. i set the power manager to put display to sleep after 1 minute.  if music is playing when the screen is fading to black, it will skip horribly.  any idea how to prevent this?
[19:57] <IsoLnCHiP> Hi, can anyone tell me how I can use the internal bluetooth device in my asus eee pc 1015pem, lsusb lists an ID of 13d3:5702 which could possibly be the bt device.
[19:58] <terry> eveningsky: Hummm... never had my whole system being crashed by an update.  I guess that's not to say it couldn't happen - guess maybe I'm lucky -  but, well, just not so sure that it's my good luck as much as it's your bad luck.  Are you talking about a distribution upgrade?  ....Or just software updates?
[19:58] <Polah> truepurple: What options do you have? Default is named "eth0", unless you're connected directly to your (A)DSL modem?
[19:59] <woonix> ThunderCO: Done. It detected my network printer and I just finished a test page.
[19:59] <ikonia> Chr|s: there will be no official packages
[20:00] <ayush_> I just installed natty beta 1. it wont install the broadcom wireless drivers (which worked fine in maverick). pls help
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !natty
[20:00] <ruan> ayush_: support only in #ubuntu+1
[20:02] <truepurple> Polah: The top tabs are Wired, wireless, mobile broadband, VPN, and DSL. All of them are empty
[20:02] <Polah> TruePurple: Are you connected to a router or directly to a modem?
[20:02] <ThunderCO> ok i got it hooked up
[20:02] <woonix> ThunderCO: Congrats. I was done minutes ago
[20:03] <truepurple> Polah: Directly to a modem
[20:03] <woonix> ThunderCO: ooh, I wonder if my scanner will work.
[20:03] <ThunderCO> done with what
[20:03] <mneptok> truepurple: does your ISP require PPPoE or some other authentication method?
[20:03] <vanHoi> #ubuntu-nl-meeting
[20:04] <Jesse_> anyone in?
[20:04] <Jesse_> to help a newbie?
[20:04] <mbeierl> !ask
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> !ask
[20:04] <ThunderCO> i have to look for driver
[20:04] <ThunderCO> s
[20:04] <Polah> truepurple: Better ask someone else about setting up a connection directly to a modem though. I'd get a router if I were you anyway, firewalls and stuff like that
[20:05] <truepurple> mneptok: I don't think so, just plug it in, and it works
[20:05] <truepurple> Well normally anyway
[20:05] <Jesse_> i have two video cards installed, but only one is currently working and i can't seem to figure out how to enable the other card, can anyone help me with this??
[20:05] <domypamypc> list
[20:05] <truepurple> Polah: Router would just make things more complicated anyway
[20:05] <terry> eveningsky: Actually, this discussion really belongs on #ubuntu-offtopic - I'm sure they would be glad to help us discuss this issue over there.
[20:05] <mneptok> truepurple: is this a different PC than you usually use?
[20:06] <domypamypc> list
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Jesse: have you installed the proprietory driver?
[20:06] <Polah> truepurple: They're not really that difficult to set up.
[20:06] <Polah> truepurple: Should you ever add another connection you'll probably want/need one anyway.
[20:06] <Jesse_> actionparsnip: i just installed ubuntu about an hour ago. both monitors came on during install and boot
[20:07] <ThunderCO> hey whats a scource list
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> !list | domypamypc
[20:07] <ayecee> ThunderCO: a typo?
[20:07] <mneptok> ThunderCO: /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:07] <truepurple> Polah: Well I am not sure if this modem has a router function or not, if it does, it is wireless, which is always trouble
[20:07] <truepurple> Polah: Anyway, first things first, fixing the browser
[20:07] <ThunderCO> in command prompt
[20:07] <mneptok> truepurple: is this a different PC than you usually use? (x2)
[20:07] <Polah> ThunderCO: do you mean /etc/apt/sources.list? It's the list of sources that APT (or for other programs and their own lists) uses to get programs
[20:07] <ThunderCO> or terminal
[20:07] <root> hey guys
[20:08] <truepurple> mneptok: I have a different PC, it works fine on that one
[20:08] <terry> eveningsky: So  you do not know for sure if this DSL modem has a dhcp and nameserver.
[20:08] <Polah> truepurple: A modem is the wall socket. A router is a powered box that you plug an ADSL cable into that leads to the wall socket and will usually have a handful of ethernet ports
[20:08] <FatPat> i am new can yall help me with backtrack
[20:08] <terry> truepurple: So  you do not know for sure if this DSL modem has a dhcp and nameserver.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Jesse: get full updates for a start. After a reboot you should use the hardware app under the system menu to install the driver easily
[20:08] <Jesse_> actionparsnip: where can i find the drivers for the other video card? it is kind of old, it is a radeon 7000
[20:08] <terry> truepurple: Is that other PC set to DHCP?
[20:09] <terry> truepurple: ...or static IP?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | fatpat
[20:09] <truepurple> Polah: This only has one ethernet port, but it might be able to do router with wireless, it does have a antenna on it
[20:09] <mneptok> truepurple: the modem has probably fixated on the MAC address of that other machine. call the ISP and ask them to clear any MAC assignments.
[20:09] <Jesse_> actionparsnip: so i just need to run the update manager and reboot?
[20:09] <truepurple> terry: No clue
[20:09] <terry> truepurple:  Are you connected to it now, (via wired connection)?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Jesse: then its already part of you install
[20:10] <terry> truepurple: If so, try this:  sudo dhclient
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Jesse_: updates help lots
[20:10] <truepurple> Terry yes: This PC is the one that is having issues, but IRC works fine
[20:10] <chotaz> Hello, I have some doubt about user permissions in ubuntu, can anyone give me 5 mins please?
[20:10] <terry> truepurple: Oh wait.  IRC is working?
[20:10] <suprengr>  HAD KVM installed (didn't like) so went for Virtualbox... but I get "VirtualBox can't operate in VMX root mode. Please disable the KVM kernel extension, recompile your kernel and reboot (VERR_VMX_IN_VMX_ROOT_MODE)."  Running 10.04 [mainly] &: pooter BIOS set for VM ok... Virtualbox & KVM (TestDrive) both working ok in 10.10
[20:10] <truepurple> terry: Try what?
[20:10] <truepurple> Terry: Yes
[20:10] <terry> truepurple: So you are on it now?
[20:10] <Starminn> !permissions | chotaz
[20:10] <truepurple> Terry: Yes
[20:10] <ThunderCO> i dont get it it says i need to add something to a source list i dont even know where that is
[20:11] <bc81> in regargs to my previous question, "i set the power manager to put display to sleep after 1 minute.  if music is playing when the screen is fading to black, it will skip horribly.  any idea how to prevent this?"  i found that both the screen saver and display sleep settings were at 1 minute, so disabling the screensaver helps, but now the music still skips but only half as bad.
[20:11] <bc81> any ideas?
[20:11] <terry> truepurple: Try this:  ifconfig   #Type it in a terminal window and see what the interfiace settings are.
[20:11] <Jesse_> actionparsnip: ok i will come back after updates have installed if i am unable to get it to work. thank you.
[20:11] <zmbi> chotaz: just ask the question
[20:12] <chotaz> Starminn, my doubt goes a lil deeper than that, basicly yesterday when I formatted i created a user and gave him a password(the one I'm logged in right now) and I would like it to haev root like permissions, I tried editing sudoers file, but obviously I had no permissions to do it
[20:12] <terry> truepurple: You should see eth0 listing an inet addr:
[20:12] <chotaz> zmbi: ^ty
[20:12] <truepurple> terry: Yeah, that is the first word
[20:12] <Starminn> chotaz: Did you try editing the sudoers file as root?
[20:13] <Starminn> chotaz: I mean with the account who can sudo
[20:13] <terry> truepurple: What IP address does it show after  inet addr: ????
[20:13] <chotaz> Starminn, I don't know root password, I didnt setup any, I only created this user.
[20:13] <truepurple> terry: I don't know if etho is a "inet addr:" but it is there
[20:13] <zmbi> sudo -i
[20:13] <chotaz> Starminn:  actually no, I thik this account can sudo
[20:13] <Starminn> chotaz: Root password=the admin account's password
[20:13] <ThunderCO> ah forget iit i figure it out later
[20:13] <truepurple> terry: I don't understand what you are asking
[20:14] <Starminn> !root > chotaz:
[20:14] <zmbi> and then your password from the user you currently running
[20:14] <Starminn> !root > chotaz
[20:14] <chotaz> Starminn:  Admin account = account which can sudo? if so, my acc password didnt work
[20:14] <terry> truepurple: After the words:  inet addr:   What is next?  A number? Something like 192.168.1.?
[20:14] <Tristam> I'm trying to mount an nfs share on a freebsd box in an ubuntu client but I keep getting permission denied...any ideas?
[20:14] <truepurple> terry: Yeah, my internal IP is listed
[20:14] <root_> !Root
[20:15] <root_> hello root
[20:15] <terry> truepurple: route -n   #What gateway address do you see at bottom?
[20:15] <Starminn> root: Pretty sure IRC'ing from root is a bad idea.
[20:15] <lasivian_> is tehre any easy way to disable one of two wireless devices? I try "ifconfig wlan0 down" and it pops back up when I try to connect someplace
[20:16] <Starminn> Guest22517: See above
[20:16] <truepurple> terry: You want me to type " route -n" in the terminal?
[20:16] <root_> Starminn: it's for people who like to live on the edge
[20:16] <terry> truepurple: Yes
[20:16] <Starminn> root_: Ah. Lol. :)
[20:16] <chotaz> Starminn:  thanks a lot, I  managed to edit  the sudoers file, do I need to reboot for these new settings to take place?
[20:16] <jiltdil> is there any way  to chat in  IRC through termianl?
[20:16] <truepurple> ok, brb, something in stove
[20:17] <terry> truepurple: In the output of  route -n   what gateway address do you see at bottom?
[20:17] <Starminn> chotaz: I've not done it personally. Usually, though, the most you ever have to do is logout/login. Only thing that needs a reboot is kernel updates. This ain't Windows. ;)
[20:17] <Starminn> jiltdil: There's an app called irssi or something. A lot of people adore it to no end. Try it
[20:18] <chotaz> Starminn:  you mean winblows? I'm soooo done with that crap xD I have to bounce now,, gonna grab something to eat, thanks a lot! i'll step by later
[20:18] <jiltdil> Starminn:thanx
[20:18] <Starminn> chotaz: Sure thing, man! :) Eat something tasty! :)
[20:18] <Starminn> jiltdil: Yep.
[20:18] <freedom_1> i need help with ad hoc network
[20:19] <jiltdil> Starminn: is this available in package ?
[20:20] <Starminn> !info irssi
[20:20] <Starminn> jiltdil: sudo apt-get install irssi should work.
[20:20] <jiltdil> Starminn;ok
[20:21] <jiltdil> Starminn:thanx alot
[20:21] <Starminn> jiltdil: If you ever need ot know a package name, go here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:21] <TEKLore>   /sign  great... 11.04 is buggy
[20:21] <Starminn> jiltdil: Sure thing.
[20:21] <Starminn> TEKLore: Natty discussion in #ubuntu+1
[20:22] <BlaDe^> Hey guys-- i'm trying to setup vsftpd
[20:22] <TEKLore> Starminn: ic ... ty i guess ill go vent there :D
[20:22] <BlaDe^> it's all installed and i can connect ot it.. I created a user using useradd -g ftp -p password -s /user/sbin/nologin ftpuser (Or similar)
[20:22] <truepurple> terry: A internal IP, one slightly different then the other one listed though
[20:22] <BlaDe^> and it says invalid login if i try connect.. Any ideas?
[20:22] <jiltdil> StarStarminn: one more question if i have an ip of my friend how  to chat using it via termainl?
[20:22] <Starminn> TEKLore: :) Absolutely! They love it when people vent!
[20:22] <terry> truepurple: Does the output of   route -n  show an IP address that is within the subnet of the internal IP address that your system is using?
[20:22] <terry> truepurple: ping -c 1 av.com   #Type into terminal window, hit enter, see what it says.
[20:23] <Starminn> jiltdil: That's over my head. I keep it pretty simple for myself, so I can't really advise on that. :(
[20:23] <jiltdil> Straminn:ok thanx for helping so much
[20:23] <Starminn> jiltdil: But I will tell you this: A lot of people ask about having a secure chat connection. SSH is what gets suggested ot them.
[20:23] <truepurple> Terry: I didn't understand the first thing you said
[20:23] <seanzy> hey, i have multi monitors but when i fullscreen something like youtube it's going to the smaller screen and not even using the whole screen. how can i make it go to the big screen?
[20:24] <jiltdil> Starminn: how to use to chat via ssh
[20:24] <Starminn> jiltdil: So you could try opening an SSH connection between the two of you, perhaps. :)I Sorry I couldn't help more.
[20:24] <Starminn> jiltdil: I've never SSH'd, haha. Try Google. It seems ot be a common question so it shouldn't be too bad.
[20:24] <truepurple> terry: Ok, done.
[20:24] <truepurple> Terry: What should I look for?
[20:24] <terry> truepurple: What is the gateway address?   #If you highlight that address and come here and hit middle mouse button it will print it here for us to see.
[20:25] <terry> truepurple: Did it ping?
[20:25] <BlaDe^> any ideas guys?
[20:25] <terry> truepurple: Or did it say unknown host?
[20:26] <kyan> Hello again! I am unable to mount a dvd, now. I get an error : http://pastebin.com/0d1LqML9
[20:26] <kyan> What does it mean?
[20:26] <Wicked> hello all. i followed the "easy way" directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html and it will not boot.
[20:26] <Wicked> any ideas?
[20:26] <truepurple> terry: I don't see the word gateway in those last results
[20:27] <truepurple> PING av.com (68.180.206.184) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:27] <truepurple> 64 bytes from av.com (68.180.206.184): icmp_req=1 ttl=54 time=142 ms
[20:27] <truepurple> --- av.com ping statistics ---
[20:27] <truepurple> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
[20:27] <truepurple> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 142.415/142.415/142.415/0.000 ms
[20:27] <FloodBot2> truepurple: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <Polah> Wicked: Is your boot device set correctly?
[20:27] <terry> truepurple: The gateway address would be under gateway (last line) in the output of   route -n
[20:27] <Polah> Wicked: In your BIOS, that is.
[20:28] <terry> truepurple: What is the gateway address?
[20:28] <truepurple> terry: I just showed you what it tells me
[20:28] <terry> truepurple: What is the gateway address?
[20:28] <truepurple> terry: i don't know
[20:28] <Wicked> Polah, yea. if i hit "f8" my mobo brings up the boot device menu. when i select my usb stick...all i get is a black screen
[20:28] <anvo> Is there a way to know what kind of RAM do I have inside the PC...? DDR, DDR2, DDR3...
[20:28] <Polah> Wicked: No flashing _ in the top left, just a plain black screen?
[20:28] <pushpop> anyone know a good DLNA server for ubuntu so I can stream movies to my PS3.  I don't want to use PS3 Media Server
[20:28] <terry> truepurple: Only paste one line. If you need to do more than one line use pastebin.  Tell you what. Do this:
[20:28] <Wicked> Polah, actually i think there was a flashing _
[20:28] <truepurple> anvo, look up what kind of motherboard you have
[20:29] <Stava> Whats the difference between hibernate and suspend?
[20:29] <truepurple> terry: Without a browser, I can't use pastbin
[20:29] <terry> truepurple: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf
[20:29] <Polah> Wicked: That appears when it's loading the system (it does for me at least). Give it a while, it might be slow if it's a USB drive.
[20:29] <anvo> truepurple, So I need to open the box and locate the logo printed on the mainboard...?
[20:29] <truepurple> terry: type that in?
[20:29] <arand> truepurple: Install the pastebinit package first
[20:29] <terry> Yes,
[20:29] <Starminn> anvo: Read the manual.
[20:29] <Polah> anvo: you shouldn't need to do that
[20:30] <Wicked> Polah, i gave it ~5-10 mins...and my usb stick has a light that flashes when its being read/write....it was not flashing
[20:30] <anvo> Polah, Explain!
[20:30] <Starminn> Stava: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/hardware/C/pm-suspending.html
[20:30] <bartix> Hello
[20:30] <BlaDe^> i've installed vsftpd, and i can connect ot it.. I created a user using useradd -g ftp -p password -s /user/sbin/nologin ftpuser (Or similar) ---- but it says invalid login if I try to login (logs reflect this too), how come?
[20:30] <alabd> Good day all ,  How to convert .ts(format of video file that vlc saves after recording) file to a .wmv/mp4/avi file ?
[20:30] <anvo> Starminn, Well, the mainboard supports both DDR and DDR2, I'm not sure what I actually have on it...
[20:30] <terry> arand: If he issues the command, he will be instructed to anyway.
[20:31] <Starminn> Stava: Basically, Suspend == screensaver and Hibernate == Power off, but your session is saved.
[20:31] <arand> terry: true.
[20:31] <truepurple> Anvo: Is this a prebuilt computer?
[20:31] <anvo> truepurple, no...
[20:32] <Starminn> anvo: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080310091556AAuKL59 (I hate linking to Yahoo! Answers, but they seem like reliable answers)
[20:32] <anvo> trucMuche, I bought the RAM myself some years ago, but I do not remember what kind...
[20:32] <truepurple> anvo: You don't have the MoBo manual or box?
[20:32] <anvo> hmm
[20:32] <jesse_> i currently have two video cards installed, but i can only use one of them at a time, i would like to use both as a multimonitor setup. can someone help me out with this??
[20:32] <Wicked> brb...i dont think the boot flag was set...not sure it will make a diff..
[20:32] <anvo> truepurple, I do have the manual...
[20:32] <truepurple> anvo: The ram itself might have a model number on it, if so, just put that in a SE
[20:32] <netbeast> hello guys
[20:32] <Polah> anvo: Do "sudo dmidecode -t memory | grep "Type: DDR"
[20:33] <anvo> Ok, folks
[20:33] <netbeast> i need some help i have a logitech game pad but jscalbitor is no longer offered how do i get it to work
[20:33] <Polah> anvo: A more general command of "sudo dmidecode -t memory" will give you all information on your RAM
[20:33] <pradeep> hello everyone
[20:34] <pradeep> i have and ubuntu server but windows user but my network is slow cos everyone on the network fetch emails from the webmail via ms outlook how do i tackle such
[20:35] <jesse_> can someone please help me enable a second video card? both cards work with ubuntu, but i cant seem to figure out how to use them both at the same time. any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:35] <anvo> "Formfactor"...? Is this the same with RAM type I'm looking for...?
[20:35] <netbeast> need some help with a logitech game pad
[20:35] <anvo> No, it's not, sorry
[20:35] <anvo> I found it
[20:35] <trucMuche> ?
[20:36] <pradeep> i have and ubuntu server but windows user but my network is slow cos everyone on the network fetch emails from the webmail via ms outlook how do i tackle such
[20:36] <derick_> does this looks ok? http://fpaste.org/AW3g/
[20:37] <Athen> curious, has anybody running 9.10 had problems when updating to the 2.6.31-23 kernel?
[20:37] <BlaDe^> i've installed vsftpd, and i can connect ot it.. I created a user using useradd -g ftp -p password -s /user/sbin/nologin ftpuser (Or similar) ---- but it says invalid login if I try to login (logs reflect this too), how come?
[20:37] <mgolisch> BlaDe^: because /bin/nologin is not a valid shell?
[20:38] <maxmouse> jesse_, i've had the same problem myself.
[20:38] <jesse_> maxmouse, were you able to fix it?
[20:39] <maxmouse> jesse_, it was a long time ago.  Uhm....i think it might have had something to do with the xWindow system itself.
[20:39] <maxmouse> Like, something in a config file somewhere.....
[20:40] <mgolisch> BlaDe^: add /usr/sbin/nologin to the /etc/shells file, vsftp should accept it then
[20:41] <jesse_> maxmouse, i am very new to linux, so i really don't know my way around.
[20:43] <Polah> netsplit?
[20:43] <RCube> My update manager is consistantly nagging me to upgrade my php libs to their 5.3 versions, I do not want this.  Is there anything I can do?
[20:43] <maxmouse> jesse_, i think i'm the same with linux.  Tell me, does....trying the command 'sudo amdcccle' do anything?
[20:43] <Polah> RCube: Don't run update manager?
[20:43] <BlaDe^> RCube why don't you want to? 5.3.7 sports like 500 or so bug fixes
[20:43] <BlaDe^> what're you running?
[20:43] <root_> [Amarok] [title: The Magic Number] [artist: De La Soul] [album: 3 Feet High And Rising]
[20:44] <RCube> BlaDe^, Im using the machine for Drupal 6 development.
[20:44] <RCube> a ton of drupal 6 contib modules flop with 5.3
[20:44] <jesse_> maxmouse it returns "command not found"
[20:45] <RCube> Polah: by "update manager" I dont mean the gnome app
[20:45] <keka> hi everyone
[20:45] <RCube> apt-get constantly reminds me about 12 availaible updates.
[20:46] <Polah> RCube: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction%20to%20Holding%20Packages perhaps
[20:46] <nicofs> I can't set my screen resolution correctly. All i get is "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[20:46] <maxmouse> jesse_, then my guess would be that you don't have the ATI proprietary drivers installed.  Try installing them with your package manager?
[20:46] <dagon666> hello again, finally I camed to some conclusions with my raid. It was not the problem of /boot on the array. I had to persistently list the DEVICE's in mdadm.conf, because mdadm could not detect them automatically during boot time when degraded. After doing this everything seems to work perfectly fine
[20:47] <dagon666> ikonia: thanks for help anyway
[20:47] <formich> !list
[20:47] <jesse_> maxmouse, i am trying to install the catalyst control center
[20:47] <RCube> Polah: That is *exactly* what Im looking for :) tyvm!
[20:48] <Polah> Is there a way to limit maximum file upload sizes with vsftpd?
[20:49] <pradeep> i have and ubuntu server but windows user but my network is slow cos everyone on the network fetch emails from the webmail via ms outlook how do i tackle such
[20:49] <maxmouse> jesse_, okay.  It looks like you'll need the Ati X.Org drivers, and the CatalystCC.  Uhm....i'm in an older version of ubuntu, i couldn't tell you what packages you need...
[20:50] <Designlydotnet1> Hello everyone.  I'm a CLI newb, and I'm trying to enable and configure a vnc server and session on a remote box.  When I try to configure locally I receive the "Others can access your computer using the address localhost." flash.  Any tips?
[20:50] <terry> Polah: Not sure but I think you can add a line something like: upload_max_filesize 20M
[20:51] <terry> Polah: upload_max_filesize = 20M
[20:51] <Polah> terry: Thanks
[20:51] <terry> Polah: np
[20:52] <terry> Polah: The line may already be there, look and see.
[20:53] <urthmover> Anyone: In unity are there menu bar apps?  Is the top bar called the menu bar, like in OSX? I want something where I can see realtime network utilization
[20:55] <Zeetron> i'm without sound on my motherboard
[20:55] <Zeetron> the chipset is intel
[20:55] <Zeetron> somebody know how to install high definition audio?
[20:55] <thunderbolt> how i can register here ?
[20:55] <Zeetron> i think that is it the problem
[20:56] <Polah> thunderbolt: with the IRC network? /msg nickserv REGISTER
[20:56] <IdleOne> !register
[20:57] <thunderbolt> register 0102862640 my_lenovob550@yahoo.com
[20:57] <Designlydotnet1> ANyone have tips on how to get vino up and running properly in 10.10?
[20:58] <IdleOne> thunderbolt: the command starts with  /msg nickserv and you will also want to change password
[20:58] <urthmover> I guess my question is a big stinker cause the new choice of Unity doesn't seem to support those crazy people that want a system monitor that you can see all the time
[20:58] <thunderbolt> sure
[20:58] <Lasivian> how do I find the name of a device to shutoff with modprobe? I have 2 wireless devices and I only want one at a time :) thanks
[20:58] <urthmover> sure I could use conky but to have a little applet running up near my clock that shows net utilization and cpu  sure would be helpful
[20:59] <terry> Lasivian: ifconfig
[20:59] <chaorain> Hey all, is there a way in Ubuntu to tell Grub to do a 1 time only boot into windows? Esentially a way to Reboot into Windows without having to manually select it?
[21:00] <Lasivian> terry: are you saying to use ifconfig to down one of them?
[21:00] <outofanswers> is there a channel for persistence USB?
[21:00] <terry> Lasivian: Actually that would be for using ifconfig down device-name    lsmod will give you the modules and you can pick which one to unload from that list, (if that's the way you wanna do it).
[21:01] <Lasivian> ifconfig down doesn;t work on it's own, the device pops back up
[21:01] <terry> Lasivian: Yea, you can do it that way.  ifconfig down wlan0  or ifconfig down wlan2
[21:02] <terry> Lasivian: I got that backwards. It would be  ifconfig wlan0 down
[21:03] <terry> Lasivian: but you can unload the driver module if you prefer.  Just look in the output of  lsmod  and compare to output of lspci and find the one you want to kill.
[21:04] <Polah> If apt-get purge is supposed to remove all files related to a package, why am I left with files like ~/.wine when I purge it?
[21:04] <DrSlony> Help, I'm installing ubuntu on a laptop, it has a 64 bit CPU but only 2GB RAM. Would oyu say installing the 64 bit version of Ubuntu is worth it, or should I go to the 32 bit one?
[21:04] <Lasivian> terry: I figure i'll have to unload it. ifconfig will down it, and then show sit down, but doing any wireless action brings it right back as if it was never down
[21:05] <tehnef> DrSlony: if you ever want to upgrade it past 4GB, you're going to want to install 64-but now
[21:05] <cesar_> hola
[21:05] <DrSlony> tehnef never
[21:05] <root_> [Amarok] [title: Jenifa Taught Me (Derwin's Revenge)] [artist: De La Soul] [album: 3 Feet High And Rising]
[21:05] <tehnef> Lasivian: that's probably network-manager screwing you over. can  you not disable it in the network pref?
[21:05] <tehnef> DrSlony: then 32-bit should be fine
[21:05] <pider> have a new ASUS X52JV laptop with webcam, the picture is upside down, anyone know how to fix this!
[21:05] <Lasivian> tehnef: inside Gnome?
[21:06] <tehnef> Lasivian: yeah
[21:06] <tehnef> Lasivian: i'm not sure, because i always uninstall network-manager
[21:06] <Lasivian> tehnef: I don;t see an option to do so, only to disable all wireless
[21:06] <Lasivian> heh, probably a good idea
[21:07] <DrSlony> tehnef i read "Heavily script dependent applications like google mail load a whole lot faster than they do on the 32 bit version of Ubuntu", that's bullshit isn't it?
[21:07] <tehnef> Lasivian: it's good for everyday use, but i tend to use linux for specific purposes and need to be able to futz with the NIC settings
[21:07] <Lasivian> this isn;t the first time network-manager has been pointed to as causing me issues
[21:08] <thunderbolt> i don't know how to register here
[21:08] <lu10> Hello
[21:08] <Lasivian> tehnef: Is there a replacement, or do you just handle wifi from commandline?
[21:08] <maco> !register | thunderbolt
[21:08] <bin_bash> Hey guys. I just got a brand new MacBook Pro (8,1) and I can't find any documentation for Lucid Lynx on this machine, only for the earlier version. The only documentation available is for Natty Narwahl. Does anyone know where I can find some documentation for this MBP?
[21:08] <tehnef> DrSlony: probably. there might be some speed increases, but i doubt it would be all that significant.
[21:08] <Polah> bin_bash: WHy are you trying to install 10.04? Why not 10.10?
[21:09] <tehnef> Lasivian: honestly i don't do much wifi with Linux. i use it for workstations and servers. with some time and effort, though, you can learn how to manipulate that stuff from the cli
[21:09] <bin_bash> Polah: Because everything I have backed up is for 10.04
[21:09] <yagoo> bin_bash, does this have anything good? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[21:09] <terry> Lasivian: What exactly are you trying to do? You might try uninstalling network-manager and install wicd instead.
[21:10] <pider> have a new ASUS X52JV laptop with webcam, the picture is upside down, anyone know how to fix this!
[21:10] <meganerdca> bin_bash: if this is a new sandy bridge based macbook then you will have to wait for natty
[21:10] <lu10> I just updated my system, the screen become obscure, (even with windows!), only the keyboard is working in ubuntu, no mouse, no internet.. Any one may help me please ?
[21:10] <bin_bash> meganerdca: Why?
[21:10] <meganerdca> bin_bash: the short short version is that the GPU is not supported.
[21:11] <meganerdca> bin_bash: just google for linux and sandy bridge
[21:11] <bin_bash> meganerdca: How can I find out if it's SandyBridge?
[21:11] <meganerdca> bin_bash: I have a sandy bridge i5, it is not fun.
[21:11] <Lasivian> terry: I'm trying to swap between two wifi devices without it being too much of a pain in the butt :)
[21:11] <bin_bash> meganerdca: I think that's what this is :|
[21:11] <meganerdca> bin_bash: does it have a thunderbolt port?
[21:11] <bin_bash> meganerdca: Yeah
[21:11] <meganerdca> bin_bash: then it is sandy bridge
[21:12] <h2o> hello...i've got a sipmle question to ask....... Can you set a timer on your comp. to turn himself ON? :)
[21:12] <kakashi> hello : i need some help to setup shiken monitor under ubuntu server
[21:12] <genii-around> h2o: Some bios support this feature, but it is rare
[21:12] <bin_bash> meganerdca: remember yesterday how I was backing up my home folder and eveyrhting
[21:12] <Lasivian> oops, should have downloaded wicd before I uninstalled network-manager, heh. Tho I think I can manage
[21:12] <meganerdca> bin_bash: sounds familiar
[21:12] <h2o> oh... ok tnx
[21:13] <iostream> h2o: you could also use Wake on LAN
[21:13] <Fill> h2o, if that's for you to remote access your pc, there's a better way - wake on lan
[21:13] <Polah> bin_bash: Your data files should be fine on 10.10, just grab programs again
[21:13] <bin_bash> meganerdca: If I install Natty now can I still use all the stuff from my home folder?
[21:13] <iostream> Fill: Wake on WAN is a bit more complicated though
[21:13] <bin_bash> Polah: I can't use 10.10 apparently
[21:13] <Polah> bin_bash: How come?
[21:13] <h2o> no no...
[21:13] <Fill> on wan? I said Lan ^^
[21:13] <pider> Hello anyone! I have a new ASUS X52JV laptop with webcam, the picture is upside down, anyone know how to fix this!
[21:14] <meganerdca> bin_bash: probably
[21:14] <h2o> i need it for my pc
[21:14] <iostream> Fill: except a LAN is not really remote ;)
[21:14] <bin_bash> Polah: because meganerdca just said it's not compatible
[21:14] <Fill> ahh right
[21:14] <Polah> bin_bash: I don't see how things would be compatible with 11.04 but not 10.10. That's a bit strange.
[21:14] <tehnef> Polah: new hardware
[21:14] <lu10> I just updated my system, the screen become obscure, (even with windows!), only the keyboard is working in ubuntu, no mouse, no internet.. Any one may help me please ?
[21:14] <bin_bash> ^
[21:14] <meganerdca> Polah: just google it, there were significant changes
[21:14] <maco> Polah: thats what new kernels are for
[21:14] <iostream> Fill: the router have to broadcast the Wake-packet onto the netword, which most - if not all - home routers cannot do
[21:15] <iostream> s/netword/network/
[21:15] <meganerdca> Polah: you can use 10.10 but you need to build your own kernel, as well as X and some libs
[21:15] <bin_bash> dad is here
[21:15] <bin_bash> gtg
[21:15] <bin_bash> thanks guise
[21:15] <bin_bash> <3
[21:15] <FloodBot2> bin_bash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <maco> bin_bash: beta came out yesterday
[21:15] <maco> bin_bash: could be an 11.04 beta tester
[21:15] <h2o> i have to wake up at app. 4 in the morning and use the comp. for like a minute and go back to sleep...i'm sick of waiting for the system to boot...and i'm sick of the computer's fan buzzing in my ear ;DD
[21:15] <meganerdca> bin_bash: I have 10.10 on my i5, but the video sucks
[21:15] <Fill> •iostream• yep, true. I didn't think about it
[21:15] <Fill> ops, sorry, nickcomp
[21:15] <Deithrian> How to convert ogv files from recordmydesktop to something useful for youtube?
[21:16] <iostream> h2o: construct a mechanical arm to press your machine's power button at a defined time?
[21:16] <h2o> lol
[21:16] <iostream> that'd be the coolest way, for sure
[21:16] <h2o> ;) nice
[21:16] <maco> h2o: you could possibly come up with a script to use the kernel's ability to suspend-for-a-set-period-of-time
[21:16] <ubuntuguy> How do you install cinelerra?
[21:16] <ubuntuguy> How do you install cinelerra?
[21:16] <Deithrian> cinelerra is outdated use OpenShot
[21:16] <brightspark> Deithrian: have you tried mencoder?
[21:17] <Deithrian> brianchidester, thanks
[21:17] <ubuntuguy> openshot is to basic
[21:17] <ubuntuguy> what's outdated about cinelerra?
[21:17] <Deithrian> yes but i t works
[21:17] <BlaDe^> i've installed vsftpd, and i can connect ot it.. I created a user using useradd -g ftp -p password -s /user/sbin/nologin ftpuser (Or similar) ---- but it says invalid login if I try to login (logs reflect this too), how come?
[21:17] <Deithrian> have you tried to encode in cinelerra?
[21:17] <ubuntuguy> how do I do that?
[21:18] <madsj> hi; I have major trouble to get pm-hibernate to work; what do people have in their /etc/pm/config.d/-directory?
[21:18] <Deithrian> ok wait i will try to find you the deb files
[21:18] <riz__> hello everyone
[21:18] <ubuntuguy> k
[21:18] <ayecee> BlaDe^: does /user/sbin/nologin exist? or is that a typo?
[21:18] <Deithrian> are you on 64 or 32bit?
[21:18] <ubuntuguy> 32
[21:18] <riz__> anyone here using opera 11?
[21:19] <b26> on a dual boot windows 7 / ubuntu 10.10 (Windows was install first).. I'm running out of space on my ubuntu partition.. how can i resize it? (i have space on the drive to expand)
[21:19] <tjiggi_fo> Lasivian, sudo lshw -C Network - that'll show the drivers used by your wireless interfaces. you can then blacklist the driver of the one you want to disable.
[21:19] <madsj> ,ask
[21:20] <madsj> riz__: just ask
[21:20] <yagoo> b26, use gparted live cd.. after that boot into ubuntu rescue prompt with ubuntu cd..
[21:20] <b26> you have a tutorial for it?
[21:20] <riz__> I have a problem with opera 11, In that it renders very slow
[21:20] <yagoo> b26, fix grub from ubuntu faq hint
[21:20] <BlaDe^> ayecee typo
[21:20] <yagoo> b26, sure.. google wiki ubuntu fix grub
[21:20] <riz__> seems like it is not using the graphics driver?
[21:21] <b26> i don't need to fix grub.. just need to resize
[21:21] <b26> or are you saying after the expansion.. i'll need to fix grub?
[21:21] <yagoo> b26, is this "/" .. ull need to fix grub after..
[21:21] <ayecee> BlaDe^: is /usr/sbin/nologin listed in /etc/shells?
[21:21] <madsj> what do I have to post to give enough information so that somebody can give me a clue on what's wrong with pm-hibernate? I did an upgrade to 10.10, and now it won't work. whenever I run the command, it just gives me a black screen
[21:21] <akavlie> What's the best solution to mount FTP/SSH as a local drive in Ubuntu?
[21:21] <BlaDe^> ayecee nope
[21:21] <BlaDe^> is that my issue?
[21:21] <ayecee> BlaDe^: i think so
[21:21] <erUSUL> akavlie: Places>Connect to server ?
[21:21] <BlaDe^> akavlie use gvfs it's excellent
[21:22] <yagoo> akavlie, u mean as a local mountpoint.. it's mount_sshfs probably ... or something similar
[21:22] <BlaDe^>  ayecee how do I add it? I'm trying to create a secure ftp user
[21:22] <ayecee> BlaDe^: add it with a text editor
[21:22] <akavlie> erUSUL, BlaDe^ -- how do I access connections there via terminal though?
[21:22] <BlaDe^> can be empty?
[21:22] <Deithrian> ubuntuguy well it seams they have removed the deb files :/ try searching in ubuntu forums sorry o-o
[21:22] <ubuntuguy> Alright, thanks
[21:22] <erUSUL> akavlie: cd ~/.gvfs/
[21:22] <BlaDe^> akavlie it'll be mounted in ~/.gvfs
[21:23] <riz__> pages render fine
[21:23] <riz__> but JS scrolls and effects take forever
[21:23] <riz__> feels choppy
[21:24] <riz__> like the cpu is drawing the elements
[21:24] <akavlie> yagoo, What does sshfs do that gvfs does not?
[21:24] <Deithrian> ubuntuguy you can try kdenlive also, it has audio editing but it's very buggy unless they updated it from the last time i used it
[21:24] <ayecee> BlaDe^: it would probably cause problems if it were empty.
[21:24] <BlaDe^> ayecee i'm still getting 530 Login incorrect
[21:25] <BlaDe^> I added it to the /etc/shells file, and nologin exists in /usr/sbin
[21:25] <sarisaribobari> do a df on my server and it says the root partition is full, but a du tells me that it is not. However i cant really create any files either. What would cause that?
[21:26] <ayecee> BlaDe^: maybe check that the shell wasn't typo'd when you entered it? check the line in /etc/passwd
[21:27] <brightspark> Can someone please help me to get firefox to display pdf files in the browser?  Here's what I'm trying to do: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25685
[21:27] <yagoo> akavlie, i believe gvfs is for gnome spaced apps.. sshfs is more broad i guess
[21:28] <yagoo> akavlie, that post is too old..
[21:29] <akavlie> yagoo, that's vague. I'm looking at gvfs stuff in terminal right now.
[21:29] <akavlie> yagoo, what post?
[21:29] <yagoo> brightspark, ^ i mean.
[21:30] <yagoo> sarisaribobari, 5 percent is like reserved for root.. i guess this prevents overflows from hacker attacks
[21:30] <sarisaribobari> yagoo: its using 14 of 14 gb :/
[21:30] <DrSlony> Will updating to 11.04 be simple, or will it require a complete reinstallation?
[21:31] <sarisaribobari> yagoo: and du reports like 2gb used total.
[21:31] <lu10> Hello, I just updated my system to ubuntu 11.04, but it seems that the mouse and the network connexion are not working after reboot.. anyone may help me please ?
[21:31] <yagoo> sarisaribobari, du works from the current path
[21:31] <brightspark> yagoo: How would I do it on 10.10, then?
[21:31] <sarisaribobari> correct
[21:32] <akavlie> erUSUL, BlaDe^ -- thanks for the tip. Seems like this could work for what I need, though file permissions are not showing correctly.
[21:32] <yagoo> brightspark, google wiki ubuntu pdf firefox embedded ?
[21:32] <erUSUL> akavlie: if you need more control the check sshfs info ( anf fuse )
[21:33] <tehnef> DrSlony: generally you can just dist-upgrade
[21:33] <b26> yagoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:33] <meganerdca> lu10: you should probably ask in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[21:33] <b26> i found that, but i'm not too sure
[21:33] <b26> i'm not trying to get stuck out on a limb and f stuff up
[21:33] <jmurowaniecki> hey dudes - again -, i need some help: RAW images (specially .CR2 files). someone tell me one raw editor who works.
[21:33] <tehnef> b26: generally you can boot to the install cd, mount your / and chroot into it, then run grub-install
[21:34] <lu10> meganerdca, thank you.
[21:35] <DrSlony> thank you tehnef
[21:36] <ankit> hello; does anyone here knows about the context switching in minix...Please help
[21:36] <b26> yeah i like to follow tutorials to go through it
[21:36] <sarisaribobari> yagoo: http://pastebin.com/xqRyrCag this is what im getting
[21:36] <Kindari> Hey guys, I have a text file with one ip address on each line. Each Ip is one of our servers, and I want to periodicly (cron) check if a specific port is open on them. Now I can do nmap and such, my problem is I want a different ouput. (Simply ip : open/close) instead of everything else getting printed.
[21:36] <yagoo> b26, the're an easier way.. just boot to rescue prompt from cd/dvd, then grub-install <mbr drive> then reboot
[21:37] <yagoo> b26, enter a rescue prompt, it should be in the chroot already.. it may have done chroot /mnt/sysimage alreaddy
[21:37] <yagoo> b26, and try to lookup up the latest guides.. that one is for v9
[21:37] <RealKillaz> hi ubuntu channel
[21:38] <Moleboy> I need a tad bit of help x.x if someone has a moment. Rathernew to ubuntu.
[21:38] <Lasivian> tjiggi_fo: Blacklisting is fine if I didn;t want to use one or the other, managing the modules seems alot easier if I want to switch repeatedly
[21:38] <Moleboy> *Rather new
[21:39] <tehnef> Moleboy: just ask, if someone can help they most likely will
[21:39] <b26> yagoo: my prob is that i don't know the mbr drive
[21:39] <b26> :/
[21:39] <RealKillaz> I'm having trouble connecting my USB device on my virtualbox version 4.0.4
[21:39] <Moleboy> Heh, thanks teh. Now, I'm totally lost on installing the propietary ATI drivers.
[21:39] <b26> im not that well versed in this part of *nix
[21:39] <RealKillaz> Anyone with some experience with this?
[21:39] <yagoo> b26, method3 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 <<< the mount --bind may be done automatically for you by going to the rescue prompt..
[21:39] <Polah> Is there a command to log command run time?
[21:40] <Moleboy> I specifically want the propietary drivers over the open source ones. I've done my research.
[21:40] <tehnef> Polah: time
[21:40] <oCean> RealKillaz: you have to install extension
[21:40] <Moleboy> But I'm not sure if some driver is already installed, and whqt not, and I don't want problems.
[21:40] <tehnef> Polah: e.g. 'time sleep 3'
[21:40] <LunaVorax> Hey everyone !
[21:40] <yagoo> b26, i would choose method3 because i'm more familiar with it.. this method works well with a number of distros as well.. but the other methods should be fine oto
[21:41] <Polah> tehnef: prepend it?
[21:41] <tehnef> Polah: yeah
[21:41] <Polah> tehnef: Got it, thanks
[21:41] <LunaVorax> Is used to have Ubuntu in French but now for no reason it switched to English... And all the settings in the language panel looks fine, how can I fix that ?
[21:41] <tehnef> Moleboy: did you run the installer and follow whatever instructions?
[21:41] <ankit> anyone familiar with context switching in MINIX
[21:41] <ThunderCO> dam i couldnt get my printer to work
[21:41] <Moleboy> tehnef: I wanted to figure out, before installing, if there was any driver currently on that I should eliminate first.
[21:42] <b26> yagoo: i'm printing out method 3 now.. ty
[21:42] <oCean> ankit: how is that related to ubuntu?
[21:42] <brightspark> yagoo: The instructions returned by that search are the same as what I linked to previously... and they still aren't doing what they're supposed to.
[21:43] <Gulfstream> is there a USB wireless 802.11b/g/n card that works out of the box in Maverick and Natty?
[21:43] <maxx0r> hi. i accidently installed grub to /dev/sda10 instead of /dev/sda11. now when i press escape in the truecrypt bootloader, grub shell in /dev/sda10 is booted. i want the truecrypt bootloader to boot grub from /dev/sda11. how can i do that?
[21:43] <ankit> @ocean it's very specific to minix. People having knowledge in operating systems can answer that question
[21:43] <ankit> sorry not very specific to minix
[21:43] <oCean> ankit: it's offtopic for this channel
[21:43] <ankit> :P
[21:43] <yagoo> brightspark, i don't know .. i don't use that plugin
[21:44] <oCean> ankit: this is ubuntu only
[21:44] <Lasivian> Gulfstream: funny, i'm working on the device I bought after making almost that exact same request
[21:44] <ankit> dude ubuntu is an operating system
[21:44] <ankit> forget i wrote Minix
[21:44] <Lasivian> Gulfstream: give me a moment
[21:44] <oCean> ankit: yes. ubuntu is the topic of this channel, not any operating system
[21:44] <meganerdca> Gulfstream: I have a Linksys at home that works, don't have the model handt
[21:44] <meganerdca> erm handy
[21:45] <ankit> ok does anybody know about context switching in Ubuntu
[21:45] <ankit> happy
[21:45] <ankit> !
[21:45] <RealKillaz> oCean, I have done that
[21:45] <ayecee> ankit: what do you need to know?
[21:45] <oCean> RealKillaz: and?
[21:45] <noob> plz this is my 1st python app i want your opinion :)
[21:45] <ankit> i can't understand the concept of switching stacks
[21:45] <RealKillaz> oCean, I have extension version 4.0.4
[21:45] <noob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/588394/
[21:46] <RealKillaz> oCean, I had this extension installed already
[21:46] <ayecee> ankit: ok?
[21:46] <ankit> @ayecee i can't understand the concept of switching stacks
[21:46] <ayecee> ankit: what about it is not clear?
[21:46] <RealKillaz> oCean, so even with the extension I'm not able to select the USB device from the menu Devices --> USB Device
[21:46] <ankit> why does it happen
[21:46] <Polah> maxx0r, you want to use grub-install on the correct drive, ask in #grub for how to remove it from sda10
[21:47] <ChogyDan> ankit: general OS topics are still !ot here.  But it is just a matter of the stack pointer changing, eh?
[21:47] <wierd0{}> could someone please tell me how to transfer music to a droid x ?
[21:47] <maxx0r> Polah: thanks
[21:47] <ayecee> ankit: because contexts don't share stacks :)
[21:47] <ankit> i am very confuse, earlier it is pointing to PCB then it switches to kernal stack
[21:47] <ankit> kernel stack
[21:47] <ankit> i am confused
[21:47] <noob> plz this is my 1st python app i want your opinion :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/588394/
[21:47] <oCean> !ot | noob
[21:48] <mika__> hi, how much stable is the beta1 of natty? i don't know if upgrade now or wait 2-4 weeks
[21:48] <ayecee> mika__: wait
[21:48] <oCean> RealKillaz: you have to add it as a storage device in the settings window of that machine
[21:48] <mika__> ayecee: what? beta 2 or the final one ?
[21:48] <oCean> mika__: #ubuntu+1 for natty. It is still beta
[21:48] <ayecee> mika__: for the final one.
[21:48] <GeekyAdam> hi all, im looking for a method of resizing an image down to a certain filesize using linux.
[21:49] <RealKillaz> oCean, shouldn't I be able to select it first from the menu Devices --> USB Device of the VirualBox machine?
[21:49] <mika__> ayecee: ok.. i just hope that it works this time, with maverick i've so many problems (ie. freeze) which i never had with the old versions :(
[21:49] <ankit> could you explain the process in layman's terms
[21:49] <tjiggi_fo> Gulfstream, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB
[21:49] <oCean> RealKillaz: right-click the machine > settings > usb
[21:49] <RealKillaz> oCean, now they're all grayed out
[21:49] <ayecee> ankit: not really, no.
[21:49] <RealKillaz> Ocean, I'm there
[21:49] <mika__> (and not only on one pc, so i think that it's somethig about the software, not the hardware)
[21:49] <ankit> hmm...
[21:50] <ayecee> ankit: laymen have no business mucking around with context switching :)
[21:50] <RealKillaz> oCean, USB controller is enabled
[21:50] <ankit> ok then in simple technical terms
[21:50] <RealKillaz> oCean, and the USB 2.0 Controller
[21:50] <dktens> does anyone know any software for ubuntu that lets you stream your desktop to justin.tv ?
[21:50] <Polah> mika__: Are you using the same LiveCD/USB to install on those different systems?
[21:50] <ayecee> ankit: this would be more appropriate to an OS channel. maybe even #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net
[21:50] <RealKillaz> oCean, list of USB device filters is empty
[21:50] <brightspark> Can someone please help me to get firefox to display pdf files in the browser?  Here's what I'm trying to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EvinceMozilla
[21:51] <oCean> RealKillaz: yes, hit the add (+) button
[21:51] <ankit> ok thanks anyway
[21:51] <mika__> Polah: nope, different one (one it's amd64, the other one x86)
[21:51] <RealKillaz> oCean, ok I have add the device
[21:51] <oCean> RealKillaz: sure
[21:51] <RealKillaz> oCean, in the filter
[21:51] <RealKillaz> oCean, what's next
[21:51] <RealKillaz> oCean, ?
[21:52] <oCean> RealKillaz: once it's added, boot the machine and you will have access to that device
[21:52] <dktens> does anyone know any software for ubuntu that lets you stream your desktop to justin.tv ?
[21:52] <oCean> dktens: no need to repeat that quickly, thanks
[21:53] <GeekyAdam> does anyone know of a way to reduce an image file's dimensions down until its a certain file size?
[21:53] <RealKillaz> oCean, I'm curious if this will work
[21:53] <b26> if i only have the one / partition.. just mount that during the grub2 chroot fix
[21:53] <b26> Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[21:53] <oCean> RealKillaz: sure, I have about 8 vm's in 4.04 running exactly like that
[21:53] <b26> /dev/sda5     ext4     36G   25G  9.2G  73% /
[21:53] <b26> none      devtmpfs    1.5G  304K  1.5G   1% /dev
[21:53] <b26> none         tmpfs    1.5G  1.2M  1.5G   1% /dev/shm
[21:53] <b26> none         tmpfs    1.5G  100K  1.5G   1% /var/run
[21:53] <FloodBot2> b26: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <Polah> GeekyAdam: I don't think you could do that. It could be resized row by row of pixels until it is the desired size
[21:54] <b26> none         tmpfs    1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /var/lock
[21:54] <Polah> b26
[21:54] <Polah> don't do that
[21:54] <Polah> !pastebin | b26
[21:54] <b26> http://paste.ubuntu.com/588397/
[21:54] <GeekyAdam> Polah: :/ i was hoping to avoid that, but it might be only method
[21:54] <b26> i'm going to be resizing my windows partition and adding space to my ubuntu.. i was told i gotta fix grub afterwards & reading through the guide
[21:55] <Polah> GeekyAdam: It would really depend on the contents of the image. For example a 1000x1000 plain white image is obviously a smaller size since it has no real information
[21:55] <b26> it says mount your normal system partition, that'd be / based off of my pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/588397/ right?
[21:55] <GeekyAdam> Polah: right. im just doing your basic "reduce image filesize for website upload" stuff
[21:55] <epzis> hello everyone, im looking for some informations about buying an UPS , actually i saw some pretty cool APC ones, to just make them work without any optionals (just battery when power goes) do i need anything on ubuntu? mind you im fairly noob with this (link is http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SMT750I&ISOCountryCode=gb)  do i just need to plug and PAY?   (i dont want any software installed no
[21:55] <epzis> r drivers)
[21:55] <Polah> b26: looks like it yes, /dev/sda5, but you want to install grub to just /dev/sda
[21:55] <FloodBot2> epzis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <GeekyAdam> Polah: so i was hoping for a method that would apply to any image
[21:55] <Polah> Unless you're putting it on it's own partition, in which case you can use /dev/sdaX
[21:56] <oCean> epzis: wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only. Maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:56] <RealKillaz> oCean, I see right down a USB icon for the virtualbox.
[21:56] <Polah> GeekyAdam: Don't think so. You could just specify a standard size to resize it to.
[21:56] <RealKillaz> oCean, it's saying no USB device attached
[21:56] <b26> Polah: so grub-install /dev/sda
[21:56] <b26> afterwards
[21:56] <epzis> oCean: i want to know if it can work without software, i suppose its most definetly not the wrong channel since im using it on ubuntu
[21:56] <GeekyAdam> Polah: thx for the info
[21:56] <b26> its also mentioning mounting your normal system partition.. sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[21:57] <b26> i'd replace /mnt with / correct?
[21:57] <Polah> b26: Should be yes. You might need to specify the directory you want to install it in. If you're booting off a LiveCD you want to mount your system drive and do: grub-install --root-directory=/media/drivename /dev/sdX
[21:57] <Polah> b26: Ask in #grub for more information, I could be wrong.
[21:57] <b26> yea im doing gparted livecd first
[21:57] <RealKillaz> oCean, it is not working
[21:58] <oCean> epzis: I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic, because users there are on various OS'es and the question is definitely not ubuntu specific
[21:58] <oCean> RealKillaz: sure it is
[21:58] <Polah> b26: As an example when I did I had to mount my drive and do > grub-install --root-directory=/media/some-identifier-here /dev/sda
[21:59] <epzis> oCean: alright, sorry for the intrusion
[21:59] <b26> ugh, i hate this part of shit
[21:59] <b26> not trying to mess things up
[21:59] <oCean> epzis: no problem at all
[22:00] <Deithrian> >___< .ogv from recordmydesktop fails to encode with mencoder "$1" -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -xvidencopts pass=1 -o "$2" it displays gray box, it's doing the same in OpenShot and in kdenlive :(
[22:00] <Deithrian> it plays normaly with mplayer
[22:00] <Deithrian> what am i missing?!
[22:02] <Deithrian> ahh whatever i'll just switch to none unity interface -_- phhh
[22:02] <Lasivian> well that's odd... wicd says "No wirless networks found" and ifconfig sees nothing wifi
[22:03] <brontosaurusrex> Deithrian, encode with mplayer then
[22:04] <ThunderCO> anyone have any hobbies
[22:04] <jedix> hey, I'm having issues using the alternative installer for 11.04 beta 1 on a system with only 3tb drives
[22:04] <jedix> I can't get the machine to install and boot
[22:04] <jedix> is there a trick I need to do?
[22:04] <Polah> Jedix: What's the error?
[22:04] <jedix> Polah: grub won't install
[22:04] <Polah> jedix: grub-install
[22:04] <jedix> it seems to be GPT related
[22:04] <ThunderCO> is it useing a dvd or cd rom drive and is the ubuntu on a dvd or cd rom disc
[22:05] <Polah> jedix: Mount the drive and do "grub-install --root-directory=/mount/point /dev/sdX
[22:05] <Deithrian> brontosaurusrex i'm sorry how?
[22:05] <jedix> Polah: k, gotta wait for the installer to get that far again.. I tried to boot and rescue it.. didn;t work out so well..
[22:05] <danileigh79> stoopid terminal quit on me again
[22:05] <Polah> Jedix: You'll want to do that in terminal after the installation
[22:06] <jedix> Polah: a lot of pages are saying that I need to have a small partition to install stage2 into
[22:06] <jedix> Polah: is that accurate?
[22:06] <brontosaurusrex> Deithrian, i'd guess the same command as with mencoder, if that wont work than you may pipe from mplayer to mencoder
[22:06] <Polah> jedix: A separate partition for GRUB? No, you can just put it in your system root directory...
[22:06] <subcool> someone please help me
[22:06] <dezine> Hey everybody. I'm trying to set up an Echo Audiofire4 interface. I have no clue where to even start. Anyone have a guide or something they can point me to?
[22:07] <subcool> Im geting pissed.
[22:07] <danileigh79> is there a way to resize the partition I put linux on?
[22:07] <jedix> Polah: no, a separate partition for stage2 because I can't install grub to MBR
[22:07] <DaPenguin> jedix, you can do it that way but there's really no reason to
[22:07] <jedix> DaPenguin: so that's outdated even for GPT data disks?
[22:07] <Deithrian> sigh
[22:07] <subcool> I have a Fedora installation on a VMware image, as a guest.. i just used a USBliveCD (kubuntu) to log in, and edit the partition sizes
[22:07] <Polah> jedix: That's why you do grub-install, to install it to the MBR after installing the system.
[22:07] <GeekyAdam> just for normal desktop use (no dev) should i install openjdk or Sun's java?
[22:08] <subcool> but- it wont let me adjust the original partition, - i also need to make the partion LVM, which it also wont do.
[22:08] <jedix> Polah: that doesn't work for 3tb drives
[22:08] <Polah> Jedix: Why not?
[22:08] <danileigh79> QUESTION: is there a way to resize the partition I put linux on?
[22:08] <ThunderCO> ya i could not get my ip90 canon to install
[22:08] <ForceDestroyer> Far up on the list of "OS showstoppers": decide at random every 6 hours whether or not to disable network adapters when booting. :(
[22:08] <Polah> GeekyAdam: OpenJDK is open source, Sun Java is proprietary and requires enabling of the Canonical partners repository. Either one works fine I find.
[22:08] <jedix> Polah: because it doesn't have a regular partition header (due to the 2tb boundry)
[22:09] <GeekyAdam> Polah: thx
[22:09] <DaPenguin> danileigh79, you can do it from the live cd using gparted
[22:09] <ThunderCO> it said something about a broken package
[22:09] <Polah> Jedix: Oh, I don't know them. Perhaps try asking more in #ubuntu+1, #grub or #hardware?
[22:09] <jedix> Polah: k, thanks
[22:11] <subcool> SOMEONE?
[22:11] <GeekyAdam> Polah: openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-6-jdk? normal non-dev desktop use
[22:11] <danileigh79> dapenguin, does that mess with ny of the data I have already downloaded/installed?
[22:11] <subcool> SHould be a 1 , 2 answer with u experts
[22:11] <ndxtg> does anyone know how to make grub2 detect a new ubuntu parition? (I just untar the backup to the partition)... grub2 is full of fail & makes things complicated compared to grub
[22:11] <DaPenguin> danileigh79, nah, gaprted can do non-destructive resizing
[22:12] <Polah> GeekyAdam, openjdk-6-jre
[22:12] <GeekyAdam> Polah: thx
[22:12] <GeekyAdam> oh, just realized the "d" in jdk stands for development
[22:13] <danileigh79> dapenguin, I have a 80gb with windows on 74 gb, want to change it to make ubuntu larger, is that still possible with what you told me?
[22:13] <Polah> GeekyAdam, correct. JRE = Java Runtime Environment, JDK = Java Development Kit.
[22:13] <DaPenguin> danileigh79, just did that the other day to put /home on it's own partiton. yeah, it's fine
[22:13] <danileigh79> dapenguin, thx
[22:14] <Ampelbein> ndxtg: you can add it manually to /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:14] <GeekyAdam> Polah: says its already the newest version, so why cant i see java applets in firefox? fresh ubuntu install. is there something else i need to install for java web applets to work? (do link is fine)
[22:14] <GeekyAdam> *(doc link is fine)
[22:14] <Polah> GeekyAdam: get ubuntu-restricted-extras. OpenJDK comes by default but not the Firefox plugin
[22:14] <DaPenguin> GeekyAdam, may be a ff plugin for it
[22:15] <GeekyAdam> Polah: thx
[22:15] <Polah> The restricted extras come with flash and java plugins, mp3/avi/mpeg support and things like that
[22:15] <ndxtg> Ampelbein: if there are ubuntu updates (such as kernel changes), it will run update-grub and the grub.cfg is rewritten so info is lost
[22:15] <Lasivian> damn, wrong driver.. well, at least i'm making progress
[22:15] <GeekyAdam> Polah: gotcha will do
[22:16] <ndxtg> Ampelbein: never mind, update-grub has found the new os, thank you
[22:16] <Polah> ndxtg, backup the config and replace it afterwardS?
[22:16] <subcool> HEY- How do you change the partition label to LVM~!!!
[22:17] <njbair> aren't DVDs supposed to auto-mount when inserted?
[22:17] <Polah> subcool: By asking and waiting.
[22:17] <subcool> Polah, i just got passed ,
[22:17] <Ampelbein> ndxtg: you can also use /etc/grub.d/ and put your info there so it's preserved (incase you need it)
[22:19] <ThunderCO> what kind of cds can i play on ubuntu
[22:19] <ThunderCO> i cant get my wine to work
[22:20] <DaPenguin> ThunderCO, the os will read anything in the iso9660 format, which is all std cds...
[22:20] <brontosaurusrex> ThunderCO, music? see what rythmbox offers maybe for starters
[22:20] <ThunderCO> how do i get it to iso9660 format
[22:21] <DaPenguin> ThunderCO, it should already be in that format
[22:23] <siddhantchd1> hey guys need some help
[22:23] <siddhantchd1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10626801
[22:23] <tz_> how can I get something like ls -R "*.java" to work if there are no java files in my current directory, only subdirectories?
[22:23] <tz_> I keep getting this error: ls: cannot access *.java: No such file or directory
[22:23] <ayecee> siddhantchd1: 403 error on the image
[22:24] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, you're getting a 403 error trying to install a printer?
[22:24] <siddhantchd1> one sec
[22:24] <siddhantchd1> http://lookpic.com/c1/i2/2473/F6PaqrTN.png
[22:25] <siddhantchd1> is it opening now?
[22:25] <ayecee> yes
[22:25] <brontosaurusrex> tz_, how about: find ./ -name *.java*
[22:26] <siddhantchd1> any luck ??
[22:26] <tz_> whoah, that looks like exactly what I needed.  Time to spend some quality time with the man page for find.
[22:27] <tz_> thanks brontosaurusrex!
[22:27] <subcool> seriouslY?
[22:27] <subcool> coem on, how do i do it?
[22:27] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, is this a 64 bit install of ubuntu?
[22:28] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin yes it is
[22:28] <siddhantchd1> and i hv downloaded the 64bit drivers and installed tehm
[22:28] <brontosaurusrex> tz_, np, i have an alias like: alias easyfind='find . | grep -i -s -e ' <- the usage is "easyfind .java"
[22:28] <ayecee> subcool: do what?
[22:28] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, and you restarted cups after the install, correct?
[22:28] <subcool> HEY- How do you change the partition label to LVM~!!!
[22:28] <siddhantchd1> yea
[22:29] <ayecee> subcool: no one knows, apparently.
[22:29] <ankit> @tz  try  ls -R | grep .java
[22:29] <ankit> #ls -R | grep .java
[22:30] <mody> hi
[22:31] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin did u get anything?
[22:31] <subcool> ayecee, u guys are the gurus of ubuntu, but no one nows basic partitioning?
[22:31] <ankit> @tz_    ls -R | grep .java
[22:31] <mody> n
[22:31] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/ccpd.conf?
[22:31] <genii-around> subcool: change it to type called: 8e
[22:31] <siddhantchd1> ok hold on
[22:32] <ayecee> subcool: no, we're just volunteers, not gurus
[22:32] <ayecee> except maybe genii-around :)
[22:32] <genii-around> ayecee: Nah
[22:33] <subcool> genii-around, thats not an option
[22:33] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin http://pastebin.com/9gXc6sPw
[22:33] <meganerdca> subcool: use cfdisk or parted to change partition label
[22:33] <subcool> meganerdca, im using gparted
[22:33] <subcool> its not an option
[22:34] <genii-around> subcool: I generally would do sudo fdisk /dev/whatever-drive-designation     then: t     then select the partition you want to change type of. Then put 8e    then w to write and quit
[22:34] <subcool> and the only way i can flag it to LVM is after i format it to a particular partioni type
[22:34] <necromancer> does anyone here know of a web host that is not in the united states, and doesn't comply with the government when they ask for information or access into your account?
[22:34] <LoRez> necromancer: stop spamming
[22:34] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, check to see that /dev/usb/lp0 actually exists
[22:34] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin how do i do that?
[22:35] <meganerdca> subcool: what are you trying to do?
[22:35] <DaPenguin> ls /dev/usb | grep lp0
[22:35] <subcool> meganerdca, i just extended my VMWare image of Fedora
[22:35] <siddhantchd1> yep it does
[22:35] <subcool> i need the image to actually see it
[22:35] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, kk, one sec
[22:37] <pp7> necromancer: why?
[22:37] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, it may be you need to restart the actual gnome printing service, don't know what it's called off  the top of my head...
[22:37] <brontosaurusrex> cups?
[22:38] <siddhantchd1> i have restarted cups
[22:38] <DaPenguin> no, cups is running, thought gnome had its own specialized one built in, kind of like network-manager
[22:38] <siddhantchd1> i dnt think there is one
[22:39] <meganerdca> subcool: so you are trying to resize your Fedora VMWare disk image?
[22:39] <DaPenguin> that's weird, as far as i can tell it can't find /etc/dev/lp0 but you said it does exist...
[22:40] <siddhantchd1> lemme show u
[22:40] <siddhantchd1> one se
[22:40] <FDtt> Okay, I've run into sudden and very annoying trouble. ChI'm chatting from another person's computer now, because all of a sudden, the ethernet adapter fails the moment I boot ubuntu. The light literally go off on the switch.
[22:41] <FDtt> It worked fine yesterday, I have no idea what's going on... Windows also shows no problems
[22:41] <FDtt> ubuntu bootloader, wait 5 seconds, the switch goes dark.
[22:42] <meganerdca> FDtt: check the logs (/var/log/messages /var/log/syslog) dmesg, ethtool output might be useful
[22:42] <DaPenguin> FDtt, i actually ran into a very similar problem a couple days ago, one reboot fixed it tho
[22:42] <lighta> hi guys
[22:43] <DaPenguin> FDtt, figured it was a hardware glitch
[22:43] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin http://lookpic.com/c1/i2/1913/pVFSyEn0.png
[22:43] <FDtt> argh how do I disable the join quit msgs in the freenode webchat
[22:43] <xcyclist> I am unable to change the password on this popup coverage password, I don't know what it's called.
[22:43] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, ok, try this sudo service cups restart
[22:43] <lighta> trying to rm a dir recursly but failing :(svn dir actually) may someone give me a hand ? rm --recursive ./.svn
[22:43] <lighta> rm: cannot remove `./.svn': No such file or directory
[22:44] <siddhantchd1> cups start/running, process 11056
[22:44] <siddhantchd1> sid@Sid-PC:/dev/usb$
[22:44] <FDtt> DaPenguin: This happened right after I installed ubuntu to me, too. But just like in your case, reboot fixed it
[22:44] <genii-around> lighta: Maybe remove there the leading ./
[22:44] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin now wht ?
[22:44] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, see if it's working
[22:44] <luvskey> nm-appletshows, that I have never been connected
[22:44] <FDtt> meganerdica: I'm pretty new to Linux, what do I have to look for in that log?
[22:45] <genii-around> lighta: And probably: rm -rf .svn
[22:45] <lighta> same issue genii-around
[22:45] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin naah the same error again
[22:45] <nerdy_kid> where does empathy store its config?  lol I've removed .config/evolution, .local/share/evolution, .cache/evolution and I've wiped the gconf keys all after killing the evolution process and it still remembers my account/address book info
[22:45] <DaPenguin> FDtt, hmm, interesting, will look into this in more detail. only happened once after a kernel update and has been fine ever since
[22:46] <lighta> rm -rf .svn fine but doesn't do the job resursivly :(
[22:46] <luvskey> nm-applet shows that I have never been connected through mobile internet, but 'I use the connection all the time, how can I fix this please?
[22:46] <genii-around> lighta: Then that .svn isn't in the current directory you're trying to remove it from, is my guess
[22:46] <tr3nton> !swap
[22:47] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, check to make sure you have cups-common, cups, and portreserve all installed
[22:47] <lighta> the one in current was remove already yea but there some sub still here so quite disturbung
[22:47] <siddhantchd1> lemme chk
[22:47] <XuMuK> hi there
[22:47] <rdx> hallo..
[22:48] <FDtt> This is a pretty bad error; I'm cut-off now; I put a trader auth key onto that PC and the software... argh. Any ideas on quick-fixes, that would increase the chance I manage to boot with network working?
[22:48] <lighta> ls -a npc/ (..... .svn) for example
[22:48] <rdx> ..
[22:48] <FDtt> Why is it that linux has so little errors, but the ones that happen are almost close to fatal :(
[22:48] <FDtt> *almost always
[22:49] <DaPenguin> FDtt, hardware support
[22:49] <Combatjuan> FDtt: Also, assumes the user knows what he/she is doing.  And a good percent of the time, I don't.
[22:49] <DaPenguin> FDtt, most nix drivers are reverse engineered and hw manufacturers usually refuse to admit it even exists
[22:49] <siddhantchd1> DaPenguin evrything is installed
[22:49] <siddhantchd1> now wht
[22:50] <hiptobecubic> In netbook remix, how does one add a custom launcher somewhere? I want to run a wine program that requires some args and things.
[22:50] <hiptobecubic> So really, a buttong that runs a script or anything would be fine.
[22:50] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd1, hmm, try a reboot maybe, or a log out and back in.
[22:50] <FDtt> I guess that's true... but why did it work yesterday then... hmmmm
[22:50] <siddhantchd1> oki one sec i will do that and then im u
[22:50] <DaPenguin> FDtt, just out of curiosity, what model of pc?
[22:51] <FDtt> Asus R1E
[22:51] <FDtt> I didn't even test the tablet this time... never got that to work under any linux
[22:51] <DaPenguin> FDtt, so a hardwired laptop then...
[22:52] <joeoshawa> i am sorry if this sounds like flaming but the locale system is totally messed up and i can't fix it i found threads dating back to 2005 about the same issue is it getting fixed ever and how do i correct it
[22:53] <joeoshawa> i tried locale-gen and locales reconfiguration but to no avail
[22:53] <subcool> meganerdca, yes
[22:54] <joeoshawa> i can't even properly install packages
[22:54] <bloodriver> Help.  Trying use Ubuntu LiveCD to install on new computer.  Stuck at login window.  Login windows has "Auto Logon" in window but will not take blank password.  Is there an "auto login" password?
[22:54] <hiptobecubic> Is it even possible?
[22:54] <granjero> hi, i need to run firefox at sturtuo in fullscreen mode. is there any way to do that? tnx!
[22:54] <root_> [Amarok] [title: Why Don't You Get a Job] [artist: The Offspring] [album: Americana]
[22:54] <bloodriver> Never have seen this before.  Is it related to AMD board?
[22:54] <lrussell> I know this is the wrong place to ask but has anyone here heard of feather linux?
[22:54] <root_> granjero: f11
[22:54] <siddhantchd> DaPenguin same error even after restart
[22:55] <lrussell> I need to know if it is compatiable with my wifi card'
[22:55] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, hmm, honestly out of ideas here
[22:55] <nerdy_kid> where does evolution store config files?
[22:55] <siddhantchd> hmm
[22:55] <granjero> root_, i know that, but i need to set a machine to start in full screen mode
[22:55] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, you may try installing the i386 driver and see if that works
[22:55] <siddhantchd> ok
[22:55] <siddhantchd> also i will try that
[22:56] <bloodriver> I heard of Feather Linux...know little of it...Distrowatch.com cold lead you to a website...if it's still in distrubution
[22:56] <aguitel> how to start numlock in any session at login in lxde ?
[22:56] <siddhantchd> one other thing i cant get my 5.1 channel to work
[22:56] <erUSUL> nerdy_kid: ~/.evolution/ and in gconf
[22:56] <siddhantchd> DePenguin
[22:56] <DaPenguin> aguitel, there's usually a bios option for that
[22:56] <siddhantchd> DaPenguin
[22:56] <nerdy_kid> erUSUL: I dont have a .evolution and I already wiped the gconf keys
[22:56] <aguitel> DaPenguin, not for me
[22:56] <joeoshawa> gtg i am seriously considering switching to a distro that can fix errors in less then 7 years
[22:57] <hiptobecubic> Is there a way to add a launcher to ubuntu netbook remix? Or did Mark decide that these six or so programs are all anyone should have.
[22:57] <root_> granjero: add the job "firefox --fullscreen" to anachron but there's probably a better wway
[22:57] <bloodriver> Help.  Trying use Ubuntu LiveCD to install on new computer.  Stuck at login window.  Login windows has "Auto Logon" in window but will not take blank password.  Is there an "auto login" password?
[22:57] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, hmm, as in it won't output on all the channels?
[22:57] <siddhantchd> yea
[22:57] <erUSUL> nerdy_kid: and what is the problem then?
[22:57] <ubuntu> sss
[22:58] <ubuntu> hi every body
[22:58] <maco> bloodriver: weird that it wants a password at all, but i think the user/pass combo is ubuntu/ubuntu
[22:58] <granjero> root_,the flag --fullscreen doesn't do what i'm looking for
[22:58] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, does the mixer show them as there?
[22:58] <siddhantchd> yep
[22:58] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, probably an issue with whatever app you're playing your 5.1 media on...
[22:59] <luvskey> I connect via mobile internet all the time, but nm.applet shows that I never did. How can I fix it?
[22:59] <bloodriver> maco thanks will try...not seen this either...but it is April Fools Day...maybe (I'M NOT) getting pranked by Sky.net
[22:59] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, regular stereo encoded stuff won't output on all 5 channels anyway
[22:59] <siddhantchd> DaPenguin actually i m using the test speakers and it isnt producng any output except for front left and right
[23:00] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, and the channels aren't muted?
[23:00] <siddhantchd> i cant c any
[23:00] <root_> granjero: there's an extension which allows for command line switches - look for it then use it with anachroon
[23:00] <FDtt> What are the consequences of booting from the older kernel version in the boot menu? Does it cause any trouble?
[23:00] <DaPenguin> FDtt, not usually
[23:00] <siddhantchd> DaPenguin its just showing me balance,fade,subwoofer in the output tab
[23:01] <granjero> root, i found a post where they talk about that extension R-kiosk
[23:01] <DaPenguin> hmm, one sec, what model card?
[23:01] <granjero> i'll try it and tell u
[23:01] <siddhantchd> DaPenguin G31-ES2l
[23:02] <bloodriver> screw it.  i've been wanting to install sabayon on sumin...nows my chance.  THANKS all.
[23:02] <siddhantchd> DaPenguin G31M-ES2L
[23:02] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound, have to enable 5.1 under pulseaudio
[23:03] <siddhantchd> okei
[23:03] <siddhantchd> emme try out
[23:04] <infinitux> Yay! Time for a fresh install of 10.10
[23:05] <FDtt> I'M ONLINE! The old kernel version lets me go online! phew...
[23:05] <infinitux> Backup's done, just gotta lay down the bytes!
[23:05] <infinitux> bbl
[23:05] <FDtt> Feels like some "update" broke it. Keh.
[23:06] <luvskey> I am connected via mobile broadband, but nm-applet doesn't show it. It says "never" in the "last used" info field. How can I fix it?
[23:06] <DaPenguin> FDtt, it's possible. check the release notes and see if anything got changed. might help you narrow down where the problem is
[23:07] <Miscni> Hi all, just curious, if others if haveing trouble on Compiz website and wikii?
[23:08] <granjero> root_, R-kiosk is what i was looking for!
[23:09] <upilChubby> tai loe pada
[23:09] <upilChubby> napa loe liat2
[23:09] <upilChubby> woooiii anjiiinkkk loeeeee
[23:10] <Polah> I appear to be unable to upload any files larger than about 400 bytes. Whenever I try to upload, ifstat reports that nothing is being sent upstream and the page or files simply attempt to upload/load forever.
[23:10] <siddhantchd> DaPenguin thanx bro its working now
[23:11] <siddhantchd> please try if can and do something abt the printer also
[23:11] <FDtt> DaPenguin: sorry, I'm a user, not a developer. I have loads of work to do right now, I can't throw things aside and track some screwup in the linux kernel... I will stick with the -22 kernel for now.
[23:11] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, cool. yeah, pulse is 2.0 by default for god knows what reason
[23:11] <DaPenguin> FDtt, cool.
[23:11] <siddhantchd> i m going offline now so please paste anything u find in the forum post
[23:11] <siddhantchd> thanx DaPenguin
[23:11] <DaPenguin> siddhantchd, np, and will do
[23:12] <Auriga> Hello, is there a way to boot into the CLI while booting, ie, is there a key command, a way to avoid using the GUI & editing rc.conf or something?
[23:12] <bazhang> !nox | Auriga
[23:12] <mkanyicy> Auriga, recovery mode
[23:12] <root_> [Amarok] [title: Table For Glasses] [artist: Jimmy Eat World] [album: Clarity [Japan Edition]]
[23:13] <erUSUL> Auriga: press e in the grub menu to enter edit mode. go to the kernel line and remove "quiet" and "splash" and put "text" in their place
[23:14] <mkanyicy> what is that, root_ ?
[23:14] <Auriga> mkanyicy, Oh yeah I forgot about that, this is actually for Arch, but as the Arch irc demands registration... I am looking for answers elsewhere... I figured I would pick up info here that would help across distros...
[23:14] <bazhang> root_, disable that
[23:14] <maco> Auriga: why not just register?
[23:14] <root_> mkanyicy: it's the music I'm listening to
[23:15] <Auriga> erUSUL, Thanks for that.
[23:15] <luvskey> I am curretly connected via mobile broadband, but nm-applet shows "never" in the "last used" field. How can I fix it?
[23:15] <Auriga> maco, Because I don't use IRC reguarly enough is why.
[23:15] <erUSUL> Auriga: i do not really dunno if that option works in Arch ....
[23:15] <maco> Auriga: maybe ##linux ?
[23:16] <Auriga> erUSUL, It's in a VM, but there is no grub menu, it just boots... So no lol.
[23:16] <erUSUL> Auriga: press shift to force the grub menu to appear
[23:16] <Auriga> maco, Yeah, I was about to go there. Either way, thanks for your inputs.
[23:16] <Auriga> erUSUL, Shall do...
[23:17] <Kayron> Hello...I have a question. I’m using cksfv on a 32bit system. It seems report size of files incorrectly...could this be related?
[23:17] <Kayron> different size from ls -la output
[23:17] <overlord> bonsoir
[23:17] <root_> Kayron: related to what?
[23:17] <root_> !fr | overlord
[23:17] <overlord> hi
[23:17] <Kayron> to the fact that the sizes show up incorrect
[23:18] <root_> ANd what do you think that's related to Kayron?
[23:18] <maco> Kayron: are they close but not quite? like maybe it's 1024 v. 1000?
[23:18] <Auriga> erUSUL, Thanks for that, as it's in a VM I edited menu.lst or something for times sake... I think i'm too tired for this headache now lol.
[23:18] <overlord> which program do you install to use ocsp responder ???
[23:18] <Auriga> erUSUL, Again though thank you.
[23:18] <Kayron> uh,. not really..more like half
[23:18] <Kayron> no clue why
[23:19] <Kayron> tried messing around with the configure script
[23:19] <root_> Kayron: what does "du -h" say?
[23:20] <Kayron> um..this is the compiler output
[23:20] <Kayron> gcc -Wall -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -I. -O2 -o cksfv cksfv.c print.c crc32.c readsfv.c newsfv.c
[23:20] <root_> does it get the sizes right?
[23:20] <Kayron> Maybe I need to change that somehow?
[23:20] <root_> [Amarok] [title: Believe In What You Want] [artist: Jimmy Eat World] [album: Clarity [Japan Edition]]
[23:21] <bazhang> root_, disable that
[23:21] <DaPenguin> lol, thank you, was just about to say something
[23:22] <root_> noone was talking....
[23:22] <bazhang> root_, does not matter. disable it.
[23:23] <root_> !botsnack
[23:24] <maxmouse> i thought that was funny x.x
[23:24] <Kayron> ls -la output gives me this --> -rw-r--r-- 1 admin admin 8.0G
[23:24] <Kayron> while cksfv givfes me
[23:24] <Kayron> ; 4202995712 16:04.01 2011-01-06
[23:25] <Kayron> half the size for some reason
[23:25] <FDtt> Appears to work every time with the old kernel. Thanks for the help, DaPenguin.
[23:25] <DaPenguin> FDtt, yeah, must be a kernel bug. will have to kick out a bug report on it
[23:26] <asfashdfklh23432> how to configure wireless conection ?
[23:26] <bazhang> !wifi > asfashdfklh23432
[23:27] <FDtt> I might try to check on it, but right now sleep >> everything else for me ;) That's probably what made me a little grumpy there.
[23:27] <danileigh79> is anybody here using irssi?
[23:27] <DaPenguin> FDtt, hear that lol
[23:27] <bazhang> danileigh79, sure, ask a question
[23:27] <shcherbak> danileigh79: yup
[23:28] <danileigh79> bazhang, my system nick is danielle, and when I open irssi it tries to set me as danielle... how do I change it to my irc nick?
[23:28] <littlebearz1> (danileigh79): /nick maybe? permentantly?
[23:29] <DaPenguin> danileigh79, think its ~/.irssi for the config file iirc
[23:29] <shcherbak> danileigh79: real_name in config.
[23:29] <danileigh79> dapenguin, do i open this in irssi or in terminal
[23:30] <ZarroBoogs> danileigh79: Use /set nick  instead
[23:30] <DaPenguin> danileigh79, it's just a text file, so pick your favorite editor :)
[23:30] <minimec> danileigh79: /nick new-nick, then /save
[23:31] <littlebearz1> Hi i was wondering how do you check a corrupted disk to mark the section as bad and use the rest of it?
[23:31] <littlebearz1> i meant USB stick
[23:31] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:32] <danileigh79> brb, gonna check on config changes
[23:32] <danileigh79> awesome all, thx for ur help
[23:33] <danileigh79> awesome all, thx for ur help
[23:33] <pm2> Hi - I'm on Kubuntu Lucid, and I'm trying to run a relatively old program that accesses the sound card through /dev/dsp.  The program gives me this error: Sound card open for read failed: opensnd: open: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy.  I'm not totally up to date with what Linux is doing with sound these days, but does anyone have any advice on how to resolve this?
[23:34] <chenno> pm2: fuser /dev/dsp
[23:36] <DaPenguin> that's interesting, it doesn't even exist on my system...
[23:38] <arand> pm2: /dev/dsp is OSS, I'm not sure is there is some compatibility things to make alsa/pulse use it as well...
[23:41] <Bavarec> hi guys, im using irssi, and i set my nick to away, but dont know how to awake from away?
[23:41] <chenno> pm2: any program using /dev/dsp?
[23:43] <razorr1990> guys i am facing problems with qt qmake when i try to tun a cmake its says that the variables need to be set
[23:43] <minimec> bavarec: Do /away without any arguments. --> /help away
[23:43] <bavarec> minimec thanks
[23:43] <HRB> I'm selling the scene for the bar..until you see the deed to the bar in my hand, that means, buy the bar, and give it to me. Hunter Reon Barnes p.s.. it's already been sold, how many times? p.p.s.. make the other bar purchasable to me too.
[23:43] <bavarec> minimec by the way, while im away, it logs msg's, and after i awake, did the msgs appear in status?
[23:44] <razorr1990> i havent probably installed qmake in my home directory how can i change that
[23:45] <minimec> bavarec: /msgs always apear in the active window by default.
[23:45] <razorr1990> anyone?
[23:45] <bavarec> yes, but while im away, and somebody mention my nick in channel or on quiery.. and after i get back from away and turn it off
[23:45] <bavarec> all the rows with my nick mentioned in channels.. and messages in private should be in the status window?
[23:46] <bavarec> îõ êàê èñêàì íÿêîé íà áúëãàðñêè äà ïîïèòàì.. ;)
[23:46] <bavarec> sry
[23:48] <pm2> Hi - I'm having a problem with a program called gmFSK - its an older program that needs to access /dev/dsp directly.  This seems to cause a problem with pulseaudio.  Any advice on how to make it work?  I've tried padsp and pasuspender, but still can't get it to work.
[23:48] <pm2> I'm on Kubuntu Lucid
[23:50] <maxx0r> update-grub does not find my kernel images. why?
[23:50] <nerdy_kid> for some reason bansheee wont detect new plugins I have installed.  It was working, but then I made a new account and now its not.  help?
[23:51] <bc81> hi. i set the laptop display to go to sleep after one minute of inactivity.  if there is music playing, it will skip.  how do i prevent the music from skipping?
[23:54] <danileigh79> bc81, I don't know of a way except to disable the sleep function
[23:55] <bc81> danileigh79: oh, i see. so it
[23:55] <bc81> s not just me this is happening to?
[23:56] <danileigh79> bc81, no mine does it as well with vids and music
[23:56] <bc81> danileigh79: ok, thanks for the info, it's good to know i'm not alone ;-)
[23:57] <danileigh79> bc81, I know what you mean, I'm a fairly new linux user, only been using 3-4 months
[23:57] <danileigh79> ~ jeopardy is about to start, be back later
[23:58] <bc81> danileigh79: it's nice that you're helping out here, your time is appreciated
[23:58] <bc81> danileigh79: bye