[01:35] spm ping [01:35] hola [01:36] spm mtr won't let me copy paste [01:36] try the --report, that will dump easier [01:36] spm dang now it's working [01:36] ha [08:09] morning all! [08:18] morning [08:18] sup mandel [08:19] fagan: morning, ready for friday? :) [08:19] yep [08:20] and its april 1st so im ready to not get punked [08:20] haha, dont worry, I dont celebrate that :P [08:20] good [08:20] spanish tradition is diff, but I do expect things to happen :) [08:21] give me a min or so, I have to finish what I own you (exercise) [08:21] did you get yesterdays one done correctly? [08:21] yep [08:23] mandel: http://bit.ly/fR7hIZ [08:23] :) [08:25] omgubuntu are very funny sometimes [08:30] they have some interesting articles at times [08:30] yeah [08:32] fagan: there you go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/588141/ [08:32] you have an exercise to do [08:32] you should not find this one terribly hard [08:33] lot of text ill make sure I dont misread it this time [08:33] :) [09:16] For the edit box is there a built in box for that or do I have to make my own dialog [09:16] mandel: ^ [09:18] fagan: there is a hint in the exercise about that [09:18] hmmmmm [09:18] fagan: last line [09:19] ah ok [09:20] so QInputDialog [09:30] Natty Narwhal near Canonical Office: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/SGb5o-nfBIs/ [09:30] rye: I linked it almost an hour ago :) [09:30] keep up :P [09:30] fagan, boo [09:30] fagan, well, yeah, true, now I see that :) [09:31] I withdraw my link [09:31] Well I linked to google maps not the article :) [09:31] rye: your link stands [09:31] :D [09:32] fagan, ah, there's a "3D" narwhal image (since I don't have google earth installed) [09:33] 3D narwhals :) [09:33] * fagan wants a pet one <3 [09:52] is it possible to sync individual files into "online" folders? [09:53] use case: don't want my entire music collection synced but all in the same local folder [10:08] Stecchino: You could just put them in a subfolder [10:08] fagan: and if that is not an option? [10:08] Guten Morgen! :D [10:09] Stecchino: Hmmm you could copy them into the ubuntu one folder [10:09] Stecchino: there just isnt a way to sync singular files other than having them in a synced folder [10:09] fagan: would symlinking work as well? [10:09] morning JamesTait [10:09] Hey fagan. :) [10:10] Stecchino: I dont know if symlinks work yet rye? [10:10] fagan, symlinks are not synced and followed [10:10] Stecchino: ^ [10:11] can of course always hardlink [10:27] i need to pay a month in advance for ubuntuone backup [10:36] Are all mp3 files in synced folders available for streaming or do they need to be in some specific folder? [10:37] Stecchino: all of them synced [10:39] good [10:40] couldn't find any technical info about how the streaming works [10:40] Stecchino: thats a good point [10:40] * fagan notes that down to tell someone more important :) [10:41] is streaming integrated (or planned to) in banshee or rythembox? [10:41] rhythembox [10:42] Stecchino: not that I know of but I couldnt see why it wouldnt be added some time in the future if there was a demand [10:44] Stecchino: I just looked at the wording for the streaming on the website and it is ok but it could be a little more clear so ill definitely mention it [10:47] mandel: this is pretty easy, its just the testing and the being careful thats taking a while [10:48] ok, just make sure that when you ask for a review you are very certain that everythng is done [10:48] mandel: yeah I will this time :) [11:10] fagan: is it possible for an application to get access to the database of the u1syncdaemon? [11:10] in order to list all the music files synced for instance. [11:10] Stecchino: well there would be a way but im new so I dont know :) [11:11] rye: ^ [11:12] Stecchino, i think you will want to talk to alecu, who is not yet here. Maybe contacting zeitgeist instead will be better. SD metadata is an internal structure... You can query the db using the filename/directory name but not list all the items within [11:15] good morning people! [11:15] morning ralsina [11:18] is the DBus API of u1sd online somewhere? [11:21] ralsina: I cant seem to figure out how to get the index of an item in a QListWidget [11:22] fagan: you have the item itself? [11:22] yep [11:22] fagan: or just the text? [11:22] I have the row [11:22] (object) [11:22] so, you have a QListWidgetItem? [11:23] ralsina: oh ill look for that in the docs [11:23] I was thinking there was some method in the QListWidget class I could use [11:23] fagan: believe it or not, I am reading the docs just like you ;) [11:23] hah [11:24] where did you get the item object from? [11:24] ralsina: currentItem [11:24] () [11:24] in the QListWidget class [11:24] if what you need is the index, maybe currentItem is not the right thing [11:25] ralsina: well I could use selectedItems but it doesnt select more than 1 at a time anyway [11:26] and there isnt any method that I could find that just returns the index [11:26] look in the docs, method exactly below currentItem [11:27] ah [11:27] damn im bad at seeing [11:34] ralsina: ping [11:35] mandel: pong [11:35] ralsina: 2 things, do you have fagans execise? second, can you try and pull yesterdays branch to see if everything works ok? [11:35] I'd like to land this in trunk today, so that I can move to fix ui issues and sd [11:35] mandel: yes, got the link for the exercise [11:36] I am going to take the kid to school in a little bit, so can't review it right away [11:36] maybe fagan can do a fieldtest [11:36] ralsina: yes, no worries :) [11:38] fagan: QListWidget should be (or have) a QAbstractItemView. You should be able to get the QModelIndex through that [11:39] Stecchino: thanks I got the index a minute a go with currentRow I just missed it [11:39] :) [11:42] morning #ubuntuone [11:42] morning duanedesign [11:46] any idea what this means -> http://pastebin.com/FArisqQZ ? [11:47] hey duanedesign [11:48] mandel, ^^ [11:49] rodrigo_: already looking :) [11:51] the tokens in the keyring are wrong, btw [11:51] so seems this prevents dc to update them, so all requests from evolution fail with 'Bad Request' [11:52] not sure though, as I'm getting 3/4 differtent errors [11:52] rodrigo_: ok, in that one, what I can see is the following: [11:53] you have an old stale file, we remove it and try to start the db again by calling the daemon to start [11:53] that daemon does two things, starts the db but it also starts a running process that will perform the replications [11:54] the replication try to find the unique id of you instance and does that by looking in the management db, at this pointyou get the 400 error [11:55] mandel, which old stale file? [11:55] rodrigo_: we look at the pid file of couchdb to know in which port it is running [11:56] but ofcourse if there was a crash or something, that pid might be there with old info, so it is check and removed if required [11:56] yeah, I had to kill the couchdb process [11:57] rodrigo_: so that is the one it removed, but that is nothing to worry, is a normal stp in desktopcouch [11:57] right, so the 400 error, why is it? [11:57] well, that is happening when trying to find if you have a management db [11:57] can you access your desktopcouch instance through futon? [11:57] so, it can't connect to the couchdb instance it starts? [11:57] I have a management db [11:58] yes, it looks like the replicaiton is crashing the process when it tries to check that [11:58] this is the line: if self._database_name not in self._server: [11:58] so, removing the tokens in the keyring might fix it? [11:59] rodrigo_: I would try that [11:59] from couchdb-glib tests, I also get the 400 Bad Request [11:59] ok, trying [12:00] no luck, same 400 [12:01] and no tokens are added to the keyring [12:01] uh, that is bad, no tokens are added to the keyring? [12:01] thats not goot at all :( [12:01] * fagan break [12:02] rodrigo_: stupid question, you did kill desktopcouch, right? [12:02] daemon and db [12:02] mandel, no, no tokens [12:02] specialy daemon regarding the keyring [12:02] mandel, yeah, using dc-stop [12:04] * mandel looks at the code [12:04] btw, can't install the nighlies package of dc, it fails because of python 2.7, so maybe it's got some conflict with 2.7? [12:05] rodrigo_: you are on maverick I suppose [12:05] mandel, no, on natty [12:06] and you dont have 2.7, that is weird since python is python27 on natty [12:06] I do have 2.7 [12:06] but: [12:06] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [12:06] desktopcouch : Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.1-0ubuntu5 is to be installed [12:06] Depends: python-desktopcouch-application (= 1.0.6+r267~maverick1) but 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [12:06] E: Broken packages [12:07] oh, that is annoying [12:07] rodrigo_: branch it a go down the python setup.py install root then [12:08] mandel, mande? [12:08] * rodrigo_ looks for a mandel->spanish translator [12:09] rodrigo_: you can install desktopcouch using setuptools rather tan a deb [12:09] so you can branch trunk lp:desktopcouch [12:09] and do: [12:09] yes, I know, I'm using the natty package, which is ok [12:09] I'm just saying that that error with the nightlies package might mean something? [12:09] ahhh [12:09] we were having completely diff conversations hehe [12:10] the nightlies package require python < 2.7 [12:10] yeah, that is wrong [12:10] it should be > 2.5 [12:12] I really wonder why you are getting the 400 more than anything else, that is the root of your current problem [12:13] mandel, sorry, got dropped, did you say anything? [12:13] rodrigo_: something about your mum, nothing else ;) [12:13] :) [12:14] rodrigo_: I was saying that is should not be < 2.7 for sure [12:14] and that what worries me more atm is the 400 and the lack of keys [12:14] yeah [12:14] I guess because of the exception it never gets to store the tokens in the keyring [12:15] I'm looking at the order things happen to be sure [12:19] rodrigo__: can you grab the logs from desktopcouch and pastebin them? [12:19] mandel, yes [12:20] mandel, hmm, which log? there are a lot [12:20] latest [12:21] which latest? I've got dbus, startup, replication, etc [12:22] rodrigo__: dbus [12:22] those are the ones from the service === rodrigo__ is now known as rodrigo_ [12:24] mandel, http://pastebin.com/BNJxfEH3 [12:25] haha we really need to improve that part of the logging [12:25] start/stop is not that useful :P [12:29] rodrigo_: the crash that you initially pated, is when the service starts the replication, but not when it starts itself (child_pid = 0) [12:32] rodrigo_: can you make sure all the dbus things are dead… is strange that you have issues with the replication... [12:33] mandel, yes [12:37] rodrigo_: yes as in 110% sure that is not running, right? [12:37] mandel, yes, all killed, dead, re-dead and hyper-dead [12:37] did you step on them? [12:37] you mean de dc dbus things, not the dbus daemon, right? [12:38] yes, crashed them with my feet :) [12:38] the dc dbus :) [12:38] yes, all dead, and restarting dc gives the stuff I pastebin'ed [12:38] * fagan back [12:39] I think I'm going to go for lunch now, my brain is starting to think like a debugger [12:40] rodrigo_: yes, I'm taking the dog out, we meet here later to give it another try to dc [12:40] rodrigo_: isnt that a good thing :P [12:40] ok [12:40] fagan, no, it's not :) [12:40] I prefer gdb to do the debugging [12:41] 001100101010 :) [12:41] * rodrigo_ SIGSEGV's [12:41] lol [12:52] good morning eveyrone! === teknico is now known as teknico_away [13:12] hi, is it normal for UbuntuOne client to stuck in "Synchronizing in process..." for a long time? [13:12] Hmmmmm looks like im not getting a system76 computer after all :/ [13:13] blue_pearl: what version of ubuntu are you on? [13:13] fagan, 10.04.2LTS [13:13] ack [13:14] blue_pearl, is this the first time you've used Ubuntu One on that machine? [13:15] webm0nk3y, yes first time on this machine....but previously used Ubuntu one to store some files 218mb of files. [13:16] blue_pearl, so if you have lots of new files it can take a long time. Note it doesn not depend on the size of the files. [13:16] webm0nk3y, ok actually i do have lots of files and folders and sub-folders [13:17] blue_pearl, when something is going on, you'll see it if you tail ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log [13:20] webm0nk3y, Ok. i see the names of some of my old files :) thanx for the tip ...so i guess everything is working as it should be..it just a matter of time. [13:20] blue_pearl, yes, sadly it's a slow process in these conditions === webm0nk3y is now known as jdobrien [13:21] webm0nk3y, Ok thank U verymuch [13:24] ralsina: can I add getting a new computer to my todo list for the standup? [13:24] :) [13:25] (im not getting the system76 one since they are out of stock of the one I want) [13:26] * fagan thinks its a worthy work item [13:32] fagan: I suppose :-) [13:33] ralsina: ill have to go before 5 to get it but it will only take 5 mins [13:33] so ill pop down after standup [13:34] actually im nearly done with this thingy [13:35] ralsina: 1 question [13:35] oh nvm [13:35] its ok :) [13:36] sure, ask [13:36] ralsina: im wondering what the point of the sort button is [13:37] I can have it auto sorting so that would make it a little redundent [13:38] well, the point right now is "it's in the spec". You can argue the spec, of course ;-) [13:38] But since this is an exercise, and thus completely arbitrary, you won't have much luck :-) [13:38] ralsina: well im the kinda person that argues with the spec :P [13:39] well, the problem is that the specs are argued a bit earlier in the process, but hey, let's be flexible! [13:40] ralsina: yeah thats cool [13:40] You could use the sort button to enable and disable autosorting, for instance :-) [13:40] well, the sort action was added initially without the hint of the QListWidget hint, but I added the hint to be more obvious [13:41] ralsina: well ill do the enable disable thing [13:41] its pretty easy anyway [13:41] :) [13:41] Keep in mind that if you are going to use the sort button as a toggle, it has to look as one. [13:42] ralsina: ill go looking :) [13:42] Not be a "sort" button that sometimes sorts andsometimes not ;) [13:42] ralsina: yeah [13:43] * fagan thinks the UX team would flip if they seen anything like that in a real program [13:43] :D [13:44] well, luckily this are just begginner exercises :D [13:44] rodrigo_: I'm back, late me know when you wanna start trying the evo bug [13:45] ralsina: oh is there any toggle thingy I can use or can I just use css to make the button look different [13:45] fagan: check the QPushButton docs [13:46] ooooh I found a cool way of doing it [13:46] and it doesnt take css [13:46] it turns the button a different colour though [13:47] ralsina: setDefault(True/False) [13:48] it turns the button different colours [13:48] fagan: I would try searching for toggle in the manual. [13:48] ralsina: no fun :P [13:48] The manual is good. The manual is our friend. [13:48] fagan: having to say that the first five things you try at random are wrong would not be fun either, that's why I point you to the manual. [13:48] ralsina: did you have the time to pull the branch from yesterday? [13:49] mandel: on it! [13:49] ralsina: I knew about setCheckable but still I wanted to make it look a little better [13:49] ralsina: cool, if that works, can we (fagan, ralsina, mandel) try to review all the required branches to land it? [13:49] fagan: setCheckable makes it look like a checkable button. [13:50] fagan: if you try to make it "better" usually it will look NOT like a checkable button. [13:50] ralsina: ah ok [13:50] In fact, I would prefer a checkbox, but a checkable button shall suffice. [13:50] ralsina: ill switch to a checkbox [13:50] its easier :) [13:51] fagan: no, do the setCheckable. It's clicking once in designer :-) [13:52] ralsina: yeah just tried the checkable thing but the behaviour is weird [13:52] and its not that obvious [13:53] weird how? [13:53] it should just stay pressed andthen stay unpressed [13:53] well its not too obvious [13:54] you click it the button turns orange and it doesnt really show that its checked really [13:54] (on ubuntu) [13:54] stand up in 5'! [13:54] fagan: let's stop there. If the behaviour is complete, push and let me see. We can worry about how the button looks later. [13:55] ralsina: well I have to write the 1 line for it [13:55] so 1 minute [13:55] fagan: then do it [13:55] fagan: ok, write it, TEST it, compare it with the problem description carefully, then push and give me the URL. === franxesk is now known as franxesk_afk [13:56] ralsina: yeah im missing the bit to test on the bottom but the core functionality is there [13:57] if you miss something, add it [13:57] ralsina: I dont really know how to add that bit [13:57] ill focus on it after I do the last bit here [13:58] fagan: the testing bit? add it at the bottom of your script, no trick there. [13:58] hello [13:58] * alecu rushes to make his standup notes [13:58] salaam alecu! [14:00] me [14:00] me [14:00] * fagan likes gettin in firish [14:00] first [14:01] me [14:01] alecu, ralsina, dobey, thisfred? [14:01] me [14:01] sry [14:01] me [14:01] me [14:01] dobey is not logged in [14:01] shall we? [14:01] please [14:02] fagan: go! [14:02] DONE [14:02] * More PyQt polishing [14:02] TODO [14:02] * Finish the PyQt example for the day [14:02] * buy a new computer [14:02] * find some way of doing a good April fools on someone [14:02] BLOCKED [14:02] * nope [14:02] nessita: go [14:02] DONE: more reviews! I'm a review machine (a few more and I will be closed to ralsina). Fixed bug #745790 (good catch seb128!). Got ussoc-1.2.0 landed and built. [14:02] TODO: desktopcouh panic. PANIC!. bug #744980, bug #729301. Maybe peer review? [14:02] BLOCKED: desktopcouch panic. PANIC! [14:02] NEXT: mandel [14:02] LOVE: is FRIDAY! [14:02] Launchpad bug 745790 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "TypeError: Expected a string or unicode object when querying device list (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745790 [14:02] Launchpad bug 744980 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Disable/enable file sync is buggy (affects: 1) (heat: 3459)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744980 [14:02] Launchpad bug 729301 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "When disabling file sync from Servies tab, update FIleSyncStatus (affects: 1) (heat: 147)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729301 [14:02] DONE: Fixed some small issues I had with the point2point test. Looked at how to do a deployment package with py2exe and pyinstaller and found an interested issues with lazr etc.. [14:02] TODO: Request for merge for all the windows sso branches. Fix the package issue and create one, file bug regarding windows ui [14:02] BLOCKED: no [14:02] thisfred, go go go [14:02] * DONE TypeError: Expected a string or unicode object when opening a second panel http://pad.lv/746489 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/lp-746489 [14:02] * INPROGRESS notifications/alerts of quota events http://pad.lv/702172 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/quota-notifications [14:02] NEXT: alecu [14:02] me [14:02] u, and work on the evo bug :P [14:03] alecu: go! [14:03] * alecu is finishing notes :P [14:04] DONE: more reviews, saw the doctor (I am broken), sprint minutia, started evaluations, administrivia, PANIC, accountant, and worked late on writing a webforum so I feel like am still a programmer inside. [14:04] TODO: reviews, work with fagan, planning [14:04] BlOCKED: no [14:04] DONE: a branch to remove quota notification from the g-s-d plugin. Started looking into contacts synchronization issue reported by jono [14:04] TODO: continue with that [14:04] BLOCKED: no [14:05] dobey: go! [14:05] λ DONE: nearly finished with #733327 [14:05] λ TODO: peer evals, finish bug #733327, libu1 release [14:05] λ BLCK: GError/g_signal_emit memory corruption. [14:05] Launchpad bug 733327 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[UI FFE] Notify user of missing MP3 support (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733327 [14:05] alecu: do you know that rodrigo_ and mandel are working on the evo thingy, right? [14:06] ehhh. no., [14:06] nessita, I'm reading the standup notes, and I was wondering what's with the PANIC [14:07] ralsina, nessita: DON'T! [14:07] alecu: just checking if anyone reads them [14:07] alecu: ok, we have been looking at it and it looks like we are getting a 400 error when trying to reach the db, the 400 happens in two diff locations, 1 when the replication service tries to do some work and when evo tries to reach the db [14:07] alecu: desktopcouch is broken for people running our hackers PPA [14:08] mandel: that is internal to hackers, see on #u1-internal [14:08] nessita, is it broken for beta1 as well? [14:08] alecu: is broken on our hackers PPA, which is independent of beta1 [14:09] mandel, rodrigo_, alecu: desktopcouch is broken for all u1-hackers that have their repo up to date [14:10] :( [14:10] I really think we should separate out server and desktop hackers ppas [14:10] mandel, rodrigo_, alecu: the 400 error may be hidding the problem that jono and other end users are having [14:10] thisfred: they are separate [14:10] the server is targeting lucid so it makes less and less sense to break our natty instances\ [14:11] ralsina: ok I finished everything but that last bit about testing it. Ill be back in a few minutes after I get my computer [14:11] dobey: really I can disable the server hackers ppa? [14:11] mandel, rodrigo_, alecu: the trace https://pastebin.canonical.com/45576/ reflects the u1-hackers-only issue [14:11] thisfred: if you want to [14:12] Sometimes. I think the problem would also be solved if the server stuff was only built for lucid [14:12] on which it will be running [14:12] nessita: yes, rodrigo_ and I were looking at it [14:12] fagan: ok. To avoid murking the channel, let's do the review in private when you come back, ok? [14:12] so people could have separate vms [14:12] ralsina: sure [14:12] ralsina: I'd like to be there too :) [14:12] thisfred: the problem with that is that you can't hack on the server from newer ubuntu then, which is a problem [14:13] we can make a channel for it :) [14:13] ok, join #fagan_pyqt then [14:13] mandel: rmcbride is about to send an email with details, that is not jono's problem :->? [14:14] dobey: that's why vms were invented, and hacking on a newer version brings its own risks. I remember a few particularly unpleasant apache surprises when deploying to hardy [14:14] we're working on stuff that is so disparate, that I think while it was a noble goal at first, having identical dev setups for backend and frontend becomes less and less feasible [14:15] nessita: II'll take some time at looking at it, right now the 400 error is far more important [14:15] since it will affect everyone [14:16] mandel: is alrady being taken care of [14:16] already* [14:16] mandel: and is only affecting online services team [14:16] oh, cool, then screw them :) [14:16] thisfred: i don't think that's true [14:17] dobey: ^^ this is what I mean, we spent three people's valuable time debugging an issue that should not concern them at all [14:17] * nessita -> brbs [14:17] nessita, a 400 error usually means an error in the way the http request was built by the http client. [14:18] alecu: is an OAUTH issue, caused by something that aquarius changed in our hackers PPA [14:18] nessita, in this case being desktopcouch the client and couchdb the server. [14:18] alecu: the problem is that oauth is broken in couchdb in our hackers ppa [14:18] oh, so we can bully aquarius for it :) [14:18] ok, then I'll take a look as well. [14:19] yeah, he's not easily bullied though, unfortunately [14:19] * alecu needs to plug in his laptop [14:19] we can whine at him, he does not like that :) [14:19] * mandel gets ready... [14:21] dobey: the other problem is: we're not talking to the same couchdb everyone will have in natty, so we may be missing other bugs/problems that are masked by the server patches. [14:21] [14:22]