[05:19] hello [19:59] After getting that mail on the -devel list I'm now testing the -generic kernel. 2.6.38-7. And.. It's performing as well as -lowlatency. Just as 2.6.38-1 did in the beginning. [20:41] hi ailo [20:41] weird [20:42] did the diagnosis tools mentioned by David in the ML help you understand what caused this strange behavior? [20:44] ronj_, I'm not sure how to catch the output. Do you know something about debugging [20:44] Actually I'm getting more xruns than on -lowlatency, but not all the time [20:45] no I think I know as much as you about these commands he mentioned, I can't help you here [20:47] just to tell yo the privative for ati radeon 4500 is not working at all in unity ubuntu 11.04 and is not fine in genome desktop [21:08] ailo: in some ways that's a bit frustrating :P [21:08] what's the point of being able to make a -lowlatency kernel if the -generic is going to perform as well [21:09] scott-work, It's up and down, I think. At least with -lowlatency we get stability. We can rely on it. [21:10] if the propsed changed that allow the irq conflict resolution come through, that will _awesome_! [21:10] that would really help laptop users with their firewire interfaces :) [21:12] scott-work, Absolutely. Also, with -generic, it seems it's not only the kernel deciding if you can use low latencies. 2.6.38-1 performed as well as -lowlatency at first, but then didn't. Now, it seems 2.6.38-7 is doing a bit better, but not as good as 2.6.38-1 did at first. I wonder what is causing this, and why -lowlatency is not affected by these changes [21:13] 2.6.38-1 -generic became unusable for low latencies at some point, after an update [21:13] ailo: excellent questions, but alas, i'm quite ignorant about kernel matters such as these :( [21:13] ailo: wasn't the 2.6.38 trouble because of the cgroup issue? [21:13] scott-work, No, that was in 2.6.37 [21:13] ah, right [21:14] i think i'll do some more testing this wekend on natty [21:14] with the kernel i mean [21:16] scott-work, abogani started isntructing me on doing debuggin about a month ago, I think, but it was just too much to take in for me at the time. Something similar to what Henningson instructs now. Hopefully that will tell us something [22:28] ScottL, This is a one day brain storming on Ubuntu Documentation. Maybe you can pick out some ideas from it? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1llXJhvRZKprnMUcAYuCGn18-9vcF0oz7SiiZTauJ0z4/edit?hl=en&authkey=CKGJiYME&pli=1# [22:39] I haven't touched on graphics and video at all. Just audio. [22:48] ScottL: Removing ubuntustudio-controls from seeds now. Anything else while I'm here?