[05:19] <Kokito> hello
[19:59] <ailo> After getting that mail on the -devel list I'm now testing the -generic kernel. 2.6.38-7. And.. It's performing as well as -lowlatency. Just as 2.6.38-1 did in the beginning.
[20:41] <ronj_> hi ailo 
[20:41] <ronj_> weird
[20:42] <ronj_> did the diagnosis tools mentioned by David in the ML help you understand what caused this strange behavior?
[20:44] <ailo> ronj_, I'm not sure how to catch the output. Do you know something about debugging
[20:44] <ailo> Actually I'm getting more xruns than on -lowlatency, but not all the time
[20:45] <ronj_> no I think I know as much as you about these commands he mentioned, I can't help you here
[20:47] <gabgom> just to tell yo  the privative for ati radeon 4500 is not working at all in unity ubuntu 11.04 and is not fine in genome desktop
[21:08] <scott-work> ailo: in some ways that's a bit frustrating :P
[21:08] <scott-work> what's the point of being able to make a -lowlatency kernel if the -generic is going to perform as well
[21:09] <ailo> scott-work, It's up and down, I think. At least with -lowlatency we get stability. We can rely on it.
[21:10] <scott-work> if the propsed changed that allow the irq conflict resolution come through, that will _awesome_!
[21:10] <scott-work> that would really help laptop users with their firewire interfaces :)
[21:12] <ailo> scott-work, Absolutely. Also, with -generic, it seems it's not only the kernel deciding if you can use low latencies. 2.6.38-1 performed as well as -lowlatency at first, but then didn't. Now, it seems 2.6.38-7 is doing a bit better, but not as good as 2.6.38-1 did at first. I wonder what is causing this, and why -lowlatency is not affected by these changes
[21:13] <ailo> 2.6.38-1 -generic became unusable for low latencies at some point, after an update
[21:13] <scott-work> ailo: excellent questions, but alas, i'm quite ignorant about kernel matters such as these :(
[21:13] <scott-work> ailo: wasn't the 2.6.38 trouble because of the cgroup issue?
[21:13] <ailo> scott-work, No, that was in 2.6.37
[21:13] <scott-work> ah, right
[21:14] <scott-work> i think i'll do some more testing this wekend on natty
[21:14] <scott-work> with the kernel i mean
[21:16] <ailo> scott-work, abogani started isntructing me on doing debuggin about a month ago, I think, but it was just too much to take in for me at the time. Something similar to what Henningson instructs now. Hopefully that will tell us something
[22:28] <ailo> ScottL, This is a one day brain storming on Ubuntu Documentation. Maybe you can pick out some ideas from it? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1llXJhvRZKprnMUcAYuCGn18-9vcF0oz7SiiZTauJ0z4/edit?hl=en&authkey=CKGJiYME&pli=1#
[22:39] <ailo> I haven't touched on graphics and video at all. Just audio.
[22:48] <TheMuso> ScottL: Removing ubuntustudio-controls from seeds now. Anything else while I'm here?