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* genii-around sips and kicks his computer00:28
juan_hello hamra00:32
juan_i have a problem with samba00:34
juan_gadmin-samba saids "Status: Activated, inactive servers winbindd"00:35
juan_hello any body?00:40
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DarthFrogI don't think you really need winbindd.00:42
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ironfroggy_I know this is a common question, but what steps should i take to diagnose a fresh install on a new machine with audio not working? no errors, just no audible playback01:14
Hamraironfroggy_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems01:19
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ironfroggy_hmm.. audio works if i attach external speakers. is there any software reason the internal speakers could be muted separately or does this mean my internal speakers are dead?01:40
Hamrano idea... open alsamixer in konsole, and see if something is lowered, raise all volumes01:44
ironfroggy_yeah i tried that already with no luck :-/01:48
ironfroggy_i have another machine with the same hardware, same laptop model, and running ubuntu and the sound works there01:50
ironfroggy_if i could figure out some comparison between the configuration...01:51
dac# #ubuntu03:16
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green__hi03:46
green__sex03:49
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darkdelusionsI really am starting to hate realtek sound cards03:55
darkdelusionseverytime I have PC with nix on it i have to go threw and try and find the right option to but in my alsa.conf to get my speakers to mute and it takes forever to track down the right flag03:56
zortogGood evening everyone I have a really simple question. Is it possible in kubuntu to have distinct wallpapers for distinct workspaces?04:00
darkdelusionszortog: there is a way I am trying to remember how04:01
zortogdarkdelusions: thank you kindly i have been beating up gnome for three hours now and it wont cooperate so i figured i would give kde a try04:02
darkdelusionsIn gnome there is no way to do it but my roommate (who isnt home atm figured it out in kde)04:02
darkdelusionsok found it you have to use activites04:03
zortogalright this environment is very new to me i am going to need some hand holding lol04:03
darkdelusionszortog: check out http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=6252804:04
darkdelusionsI have never done it myself since it is not as easy as it was in kde 3.X04:04
zortogdarkdelusions: i have hit a hang up already, it says select zoom out, but that option is not present04:06
darkdelusionslet try it 1 sec04:06
zortogdarldelusions: i got something similar to what i need, i figure i can manage to get something together !! Thanks for the help!04:10
darkdelusionsnp04:11
darkdelusionsSorry I couldnt be more helpful I just havent played with it04:11
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folornanyone who's played alot of open arena could you tell me where the screenshots is hidden after you take them?04:43
TheBuntuanyone have any idea what replace /boot/grub/menu.lst in 11.0404:45
folornany folks here good with open arena questions ?04:48
Daskreechfolorn: Maybe the open arena IRC?04:54
Daskreechhttp://openarena.wikia.com/wiki/Manual <--- or read that04:56
Daskreech!grub2 | TheBuntu04:56
ubottuTheBuntu: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub204:56
TheBuntuDaskreech: that dont help...its telling me what im trying to do...but menu.lst isent in /boot/grub05:00
DaskreechTheBuntu: do you see grub.cfg ?05:01
DaskreechIt's mentioned in the second link05:02
TheBuntui got it...grub.cfg took the place of menu.lst05:03
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DaskreechTheBuntu: Read the second link05:06
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folornwhere is that at daskreech?05:34
Daskreechfolorn: Hmm?05:58
Daskreechfolorn: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.anynet.org&amp;channel=%23openarena06:00
folornthanks06:07
navatwoHey, so I recently updated my kubuntu box and now I cannot connect to my wired network. Any ideas?06:58
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c2tarunnavatwo: which version are you using?07:08
navatwouhm, how would one check07:08
c2tarunnavatwo: nevermind :) run ifconfig on terminal and show me the output.07:09
navatwoerr, not sure how I can do that lol07:09
c2tarunyou using kubuntu?07:10
dmattnavatwo: run following in terminal: lsb_release -a07:10
navatwoI'm piping it to a text file and using a flash drive to move it over lol07:10
navatwodmatt: `No LSB modules are available`07:10
dmattnavatwo: run it with -a option07:11
navatwoI did07:11
dmattnavatwo: do you use *ubuntu ? :)07:12
navatwodmatt: it states ubuntu in there too07:12
navatwosorry :P07:12
c2tarunnavatwo: try cat /etc/issue and tell the output.07:12
dmattwhich release07:12
c2tarunnavatwo:  cat /etc/issue07:12
navatwoc2tarun: http://pastebin.com/ZpRhKQjr07:13
navatwoim using 10.10 kubuntu btw07:14
tinlysim 10.04LTS07:14
navatwoand c2tarun that showed `Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l`07:14
c2tarunnavatwo: ok, your ethernet devices are fine. what kind of connection do you have?07:14
navatwowired07:15
navatwo(I'm on my netbook atm)07:15
navatwo(which is wifi..)07:15
tinlysnetia tel.07:15
c2tarunnavatwo: I guess your wifi card is also working fine but still please open additional drivers.07:17
navatwomy desktop is having the issues07:19
navatwoit does not have a wifi card07:19
c2tarunnavatwo: actually I asked you to run ifconfig on your desktop :)07:20
navatwoI did! :P07:22
navatwothat was the output07:22
darkdelusionshe did its in that past bin07:23
c2tarunnavatwo: I am assuming that you connection is fine, your output shows that your system should respond to your connection. hang around here, someone will help you07:23
c2tarundarkdelusions: yup got that :)07:23
darkdelusionshis eth0 is showing up as something odd07:23
navatwoI hope so.. I need to get internet access.. o.O07:23
darkdelusionswell the device that has an ip that is07:24
navatwoeth0 is not showing up as any connection, the cord is clearly in and I'm using the router for wifi currently07:24
darkdelusionsnavatwo:  try doing a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart from console07:30
navatwoHey, so I recently updated my kubuntu box and now I cannot connect to my wired network. /etc/network/interfaces is OK and `ifconfig` output is located here: http://pastebin.com/ZpRhKQjrttp://pastebin.com/ZpRhKQjr07:30
navatwooops lol07:31
navatwodarkdelusions: it didnt change anything.07:31
navatwobtw, I've tried booting an older kernel, no luck07:31
darkdelusionswhat do you get when you do a dhclient eth007:33
darkdelusionserrr07:33
darkdelusionssudo dhclient eth007:33
navatwoits running atm07:34
darkdelusionsjust running07:35
darkdelusionsit probally gonna sit there till it times out07:35
darkdelusionsctrl c it07:35
navatwoits changing intervals it appears07:35
navatwokk07:36
darkdelusionstry ifup eth007:36
darkdelusionswith sudo07:36
navatwounknown interface07:36
darkdelusionsfrom console do a cat /etc/network/interfaces and paste the out put into pastebin07:38
navatwodarkdelusions http://paste.villavu.com/show/550/07:41
navatwodarkdelusions: I need to sleep. Thanks for the help tough07:44
darkdelusionsnp07:45
darkdelusionsI am not sure on that one07:45
darkdelusionsI am sorry07:45
navatwothought*07:45
navatwothough*07:45
navatwoIts OK, the effort is nice either way. :)07:45
darkdelusionsi don't normally upgrade from apt i normally just download the new distro and frap my /partition07:45
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stephdgRiddell: you around?08:53
zoisshey guys. does anyone have a logitech wireless illuminated k800 keyboard? i've managed to get most of the special keys working but the calculator key does not throw an event. is there someone with an workaround?08:54
stephdgwhen one is using kubuntu and if my plasma keeps crashing when i shut down, where would i file the bug report? with KDE or kubuntu?08:54
zoissI would start at kubuntu. if it's a KDE only problem you will be forwarded :-)08:55
stephdgok thanks zoiss08:56
zoissnp. I heard that a lot of crashes appear due to failures in implementation which are not KDE bugs - actually. but I'm not an expert there08:57
stephdgzoiss: implementation?09:01
zoissintegration09:04
Axlinpersonally i was having that same problem until i upgraded to 4.609:05
stephdgAxlin: i have 4.6.109:05
stephdgi have the plasma netbook version...09:05
Axlinah, interesting. well i'm using the regular desktop09:05
zoissI have plasma crashes when shutting down, too. not every time although. -> 4.6.109:05
stephdgzoiss: it seems to be *every* time...at least the last 2 times its happened09:08
zoisshere it does not appear every time. but i cannot remember the last time it never came up:-)09:09
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naftilos76hello everyone, if i install 11.04 form here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ , shall i be able to update to the official release when it is released?10:36
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N41Thi all i have a  problem with mi wireless connection11:16
N41TI see the network, but I did not connect, I'm now writing from ubuntu11:17
N41Thow can I do?11:17
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n8wive noticed that my kde takes a lot of cpu resources...it hasnt been like this ever since,it just started perhaps with the few last kde updates...would reinstallin kde help?12:25
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hangman13ustest13:37
hangman13usCan anyone see my chats?13:37
marxjohnsonhangman13us: nope ;-)13:38
hangman13us:D13:39
hangman13us10x13:39
hangman13usFirst time I'm using this IRC client13:39
hangman13usI'm making some test with my new KUBUNTU - looks great :)13:39
navatwoHi, I updated my kde to the experimental packages.. they look great but now I cannot connect to wifi. I'm running plasma-netbook and the application switcher crashes kde as well. Any words of wisdom?13:44
lukropnavatwo: are you using 10.10? you could upgrade to natty.. but no guarantee :P13:47
navatwoI am, that's an option.13:47
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inj3ct0rhi to all14:53
inj3ct0rim sorry i have a problem with my kubuntu 10.10 dekstop when i fix resolution it became correct but when i resrart i should to fix it again what i should do now\?14:55
inj3ct0rim sorry i have a problem with my kubuntu 10.10 dekstop when i fix resolution it became correct but when i resrart i should to fix it again what i should do now\?14:59
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inj3ct0rim sorry i have a problem with my kubuntu 10.10 dekstop when i fix resolution it became correct but when i resrart i should to fix it again what i should do now\?15:15
inj3ct0rno body want help me?15:15
n8whow do i get rid of the laggin while resizing a window in kde?16:16
inj3ct0rim sorry i have a problem with my kubuntu 10.10 dekstop when i fix resolution it became correct but when i resrart i should to fix it again what i should do now\?16:19
Alvohello, with kde from kubuntu-desktop 1.205 installed from Ubuntu i cannot connect to the wlan, with gnome it works, caqn i fix the problem somehow?16:20
inj3ct0rno body want to answer me?16:23
BluesKajAlvo, did you stup the knetworkmanager with the same settings as in gnome?16:25
inj3ct0rhi can any body see me?16:25
BluesKajinj3ct0r, the resolution depends a lot on your graphics driver , make sure you have the recommended driver installed , kmenu/applications/settings/additional hardware , choose the recommended driver16:27
inj3ct0rthe problem is when i fix rezolution i cant save and come up after restart16:28
inj3ct0ri mean changs do not save16:28
BluesKajinj3ct0r, did you do whay I suggested?..I know what your problem is .16:29
BluesKajwhay=what16:29
inj3ct0rno proprietary drivers are in use on this system16:31
BluesKajinj3ct0r, have you updated since installing ? Also enable other software sources including partners in the kpackagekit settings , then update16:35
BluesKaj!pm | inj3ct0r16:37
ubottuinj3ct0r: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.16:37
TechnicusHello, how can I reset the KDE color setting to default?16:54
WaltzingAlongTechnicus: should be able to, yes. in system settings16:59
php5engineerSometimes when I touch my mouse, Kubuntu previews all of open windows. How can I deactivate this gesture?17:00
TechnicusWaltzingAlong: There is a problem with that, it is not working, not all the colors that are supposed to change change.17:01
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WaltzingAlongTechnicus: could ask in #kde as well. so which ones then stay the same? not which colors but which elements?17:02
TechnicusWaltzingAlong: Text.17:02
WaltzingAlongas in you would need to close that window then open it again before the changes take effect?17:03
rosco_yI'm getting copyright infringment notices from my provider:  I wonder if it's possible that ktorrent can be used as a bridge to help transfer files from point A, over Bridge, to Point B?17:16
tsimpsonas long as you aren't transferring anything you don't have permission to transfer, it shouldn't matter17:17
rosco_ymy ktorrent daemon automatically runs, but I never use it17:17
rosco_yI wonder if there is a way to inspect the ktorrent's activity history?17:18
BluesKajrosco_y, ktorrent has a blocklist option if you care to look at it.17:18
tsimpsonopen it up, it shows what it's transferring17:18
rosco_yBluesKaj: thank you, I'll take a look at that17:18
tsimpsonit could be that your ISP has noticed you're using bittorrent and assumes that you're doing something illegal, ISPs are dumb like that17:19
tsimpsonask them to tell you what copyright you are supposedly violating17:20
rosco_yThis is getting frustrating, today I got my third notice from them17:20
rosco_ywell, today it was for the "Dexter" TV series17:20
tsimpsonassuming you aren't sharing that, check if anyone else has access to your connection17:21
LurkMorewhy are u using torrent for filesharing, thats last century-stuff. i use torrents only for distros and cc-licensed stuff, its well known torrent is monitored17:21
rosco_yI wish I was more savvy, a good tech might be able to unravel what's going on17:22
tsimpsonISPs send notices to the account holder, rather than the person doing the sharing...17:22
rosco_yLurkMore: I'm a fan of getting music at Jamendo, and they recommend using bittorrent for their ogg files17:22
tsimpsonand if you're on wifi, make sure you're using WPA rather than WEP17:23
rosco_yI wanted to see if ogg seemed better than mp3, as it is, I never was able to find any of their music in the torrent venue anyways17:23
BluesKajLurkMore, so waht do you recommend for us last century users ? :)17:23
tsimpsonWEP can be broken rather easily17:23
LurkMoreBluesKaj: as i say, cc-licensed stuff17:23
BluesKajstuff?17:23
LurkMorethingies17:23
WaltzingAlongrosco_y: never made your way to jamendo.com then i take it? can grab the suff in ogg vorbis17:24
rosco_yI am using wpa, and I used a website to generate a "maximum security key"17:24
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WaltzingAlonggrc passwords? ok17:24
rosco_yWaltzingAlong: I don't understand what you're telling me....17:24
WaltzingAlongrosco_y: you can find some music available in ogg vorbis at jamendo.com/17:25
rosco_yI never noticed "ogg vorbis"17:25
LurkMoreBluesKaj: get jdownloader, runs pretty well with jre 1.6 and stay with one-click-hosters17:25
rosco_yI"m looking for it now...17:25
BluesKajwell if I own a cd or lp(vinyl) then I have the right in this country to copy it in whatever form I wish ...the law hasn't officially changed here in Canada yet despite the pressure from US senators to adopt their copyright laws17:26
WaltzingAlongrosco_y: i saw you mention ogg vs mp3; i expanded ogg to ogg vorbis as you likely mean the audio codec and not just the container17:26
rosco_yWaltzingAlong: is ogg better than mp3 then?17:27
rosco_yI'm just going to uninstall my ktorrent client--I never use it anyways, but before I do that, I want to try to figure out what's happening17:27
LurkMoregenerally, yes. expect for very low bitrates17:27
LurkMoreexcept17:28
rosco_y:)17:28
WaltzingAlongwould have to define what you mean by better. if better = can be opened by vanilla itunes then no17:28
LurkMoreurgh itunes17:28
rosco_yaaarrrggghhh is right--as if I have enough time to do the things that I need to do....17:30
rosco_yWell, thanks everybody, you've been a great help as always!17:30
WaltzingAlonguntil next time!17:30
root_Is there gonna be support for iPod playlists in the next AmaroK/Kubuntu?17:51
WaltzingAlongroot_: how about in #amarok ? next amarok being the one released after 2.4.1beta1? and what about ipod playlist support? does it not already do this? only partially?17:55
WaltzingAlongroot_: as for what 2.4.1 should contain, guess you could check at amarok.kde.org17:57
root_WaltzingAlong: no it doesn't support playlists on th ipod17:59
LurkMoreeasy solution, get rid of ipod18:03
inj3ct0rhi to all i have problem with my kubuntu 10.10 dikstop when i fix rezolution it became correct but when i reboot it gone like a bird and i should to fix it again what i should do now?18:05
WaltzingAlongroot_: do not know. there was talk about implementing it for 2.4 but that was talk from before summer (northern) 201018:05
WaltzingAlongstop rebooting18:06
WaltzingAlongmuhaha18:07
dmattinj3ct0r: what graphics card?18:08
inj3ct0rwhat do you mean?18:08
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Ron__Hello room...have problems anyone in kmix (kde 4.6) ?18:09
root_No it's working for me Ron__18:09
Ron__controls show all ?18:10
inj3ct0rdmatt:can i come and chat with you ?18:11
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inj3ct0rdmatt?18:21
inj3ct0rhi to all i have problem with my kubuntu 10.10 dikstop when i fix rezolution it became correct but when i reboot it gone like a bird and i should to fix it again what i should do now?18:25
BluesKajinj3ct0r,  what graphics card doyou have? , open a terminal and do , lspci | grep VGA18:27
inj3ct0r01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)18:40
inj3ct0rblueskaj : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)18:43
Liquido___helo18:45
Liquido___hello*18:45
Liquido___how I could configure dns through console?18:46
Liquido___I some distros I just need to add correct info to the /etc/resolv.conf18:46
Liquido___but on kubuntu this does not work18:46
Liquido___may I ask where I should put dns server info ?18:46
Liquido___please18:46
DarthFrog /etc/resolv.conf18:49
Liquido___DarthFrog: that file doesnt exist\18:49
Liquido___if I create new one I see that dns isnt updated18:50
tsimpsonit certainly should exist18:50
Liquido___it never existed on kubuntu tbh18:51
tsimpsonit should do18:51
tsimpsonit's used by pretty much anything that does network access18:52
Liquido___ye it should , but it doesnt exist18:52
tsimpsonit's always existed for me18:52
tsimpsonI've never had to create it18:52
Liquido___maybe u ran some 3rd soft and never configured ur network manuall18:52
Liquido___manually18:52
tsimpsonnope, never18:52
tsimpsonKNetworkManager even writes to it18:53
Liquido___thats the worst program @kubuntu18:53
Liquido___it just don't work18:53
Liquido___and I see that menu of it changed with each release18:53
tsimpsonobviously it does, or I wouldn't be talking here18:53
tsimpsonand it's not Kubuntu specific, it's in KDE18:54
Liquido___I'm running on 9.0418:54
tsimpsonI'm running 10.04, but resolv.conf is certainly not new18:54
Liquido___maybe you know how I could change default gateway with route command for eth0 ?18:54
Liquido___I forgot correct line :S18:54
Liquido___I could bet for 10 dollars that 'm right18:55
tsimpsonright about what?18:55
Liquido___that resolv.conf isn't available by default on kubuntu18:56
Liquido___and18:56
tsimpsonwell you're wrong :)18:56
Liquido___it does nothing when you make and fill it with settings18:56
tsimpsonI've used Kubuntu since 5.10, it's always been there18:56
Liquido___I don't use drugs btw18:56
tsimpsondhclient usually creates it, at least before NM existed18:56
tsimpsonit's even used by the C library18:57
tsimpsonman route tells me that "route add default gw gateway" is how you add a default gateway, add "dev eth0" to limit to eith018:58
php5engineerHow can I disable a gestures in Kubuntu? Sometimes when I touch mouse I see windows switcher like windows flip19:00
areichmanphp5engineer: I believe that's in System Settings > Workspace Behaivor > Screen Edges19:12
wonerhello world19:12
php5engineerareichman, thank you19:18
areichmandid it work?19:18
php5engineeryes, it works19:19
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DaughainWht channel would be best for help setting up a *buntu based media server?20:06
James147Daughain: proball #ubuntu-server20:07
DaughainThanks.20:07
James147^^ although you can also try here or #ubuntu ^^20:08
DaughainActually, there was a chanel I used to frequent a few years ago, I just cant remember the name.....20:09
rats__hello20:17
rats__hello20:18
rats__hello20:19
James147Hi rats__20:19
rats__Hi James147 just ckecking irssi stopped responding to this channel but others worked fine20:21
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rats__hmmm20:35
MaximLevitskyWhat you folks use for IRC in KDE?20:52
DarthFrog!konversation20:52
MaximLevitskyI always used kopete, but it doesn't support IRC :-(20:52
DarthFrogKonversation and Quassel are the two primary IRC GUI clients in KDE.20:53
MaximLevitskyI used Quassel, don't like it20:53
DarthFrog!info konversation20:53
ubottukonversation (source: konversation): user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-1ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 692 kB, installed size 2628 kB20:53
MaximLevitskyMaybe I'll stick with pidgin for a while20:53
* claydoh uses quassel and likes it20:53
DarthFrogI prefer Konversation to Quassel myself.20:53
MaximLevitskyGTK application's don't suck in KDE any more20:54
DarthFrogAn app is an app.  GTK or Qt, it doesn't matter.  They're tools, not religious choices. :-)20:54
MaximLevitskyIndeed20:54
MaximLevitskyAnd I have learned that the hard way20:55
MaximLevitskyI used KDE3, then Gnome, now I am back to KDE20:55
MaximLevitskyI have few suggestions to you to make it easier to absorb Gnome dictatorship environment refugees like me20:56
MaximLevitskyFirst, the KWallet20:56
MaximLevitskyIt is really anooying that it asks for a password every time20:57
MaximLevitskyAnd the fact that it pops up a window about 'allow to use me?' every time20:57
MaximLevitskyI keep answering yes for all, but it keeps asking20:58
MaximLevitskyCan I remove 'Favorite Folders' list from Kmail?20:59
claydohMaximLevitsky: yes, it is in kmail's settings somewhere21:01
claydohAppearance >> layout21:01
MaximLevitskyI love you KDE21:02
MaximLevitskyNo, these bastards won't take a single setting from me anymore21:02
MaximLevitsky:-)21:02
claydohand you can turn off kwallet, or change it settings as well. I use the wallet on my laptop as it is readily accessible so iwant my email, logins somewhat protected from snoopy people21:03
MaximLevitskyAbout KWin, it rivals compiz in features, but its keyboard shortcuts are somehow lacking21:04
MaximLevitskyDidn't find a way to assign ctrl+alt+mouse1 to show the cube21:04
MaximLevitskyIt seems not to support that at all21:05
rats__ctrl+F11 will make cube MaximLevitsky21:07
MaximLevitskyI know21:07
MaximLevitskybut thats not easy to use21:07
rats__for easy just set the screen edge21:08
rats__to make cube21:08
MaximLevitskyI did that :-)21:09
rats__if your going to use mouse and keyboard wouldn't be easier to just use mouse21:11
rats__or just keyboard21:12
MaximLevitskyI used to these settings and all compiz users are21:12
rats__ok I just use Metacity for desktop effects21:13
MaximLevitskyBTW, congratulations for an option to select different WM, in few clicks I could use compiz as well. isn't Democracy wonderful21:13
rats__not as wonderful as KDE lol21:14
rats__not even close21:14
MaximLevitskystill key+mouse shortcuts should be there, really21:14
rats__true21:15
MaximLevitskyfor example in compiz I can do alt+mouse wheel to change transparency of windows21:15
rats__Compiz does do more than Metacity but allI need is my cube and a few other basic effects and I'm happy21:17
gaellehi, i can't find the debug package for nepomuk in kubuntu 10.10 with kde 4.6.1? nepomuk crashes everytime i start it, but i don't have the debug packages21:18
rats__don't need rain drops21:18
MaximLevitskyAlso I really miss system monitor21:23
MaximLevitskyI didn't find any plasma widget that just shows temperature of CPU/GPU...21:24
MaximLevitskyThere is one but it shows graphs and displays temperature in Fahrenheits. No thanks21:24
rats__There is one for both of those MaximLevitsky21:24
MaximLevitskyWhere21:26
MaximLevitskyI see the 'Hardware temperature21:26
ceckohi all, messing around my system I deleted my /tmp, now  even if I recreate it with 755 permissions, I cannot even log in... could anybody please help me?21:46
DarthFrog /tmp should have 1777 permissions.22:00
DarthFrogThe leading "1" (could also use "2" for SGID or "4" for SUID) sets the so-called sticky bit (i.e. the "t" you see when you list permisssions) which means only the owner of the file can delete is.22:02
DarthFrogit.22:02
MaximLevitskyYep, temperature monitor shows Celsius now, didn't pick regional settings till reboot22:03
MaximLevitskyDashboard is nice btw.22:03
MaximLevitskyAt least a mac os feature that doesn't suck...22:04
MaximLevitskyunlike global menu that ubuntu forces on its users22:04
rats__MaximLevitsky: did you find system monitor widget22:05
MaximLevitskythere is the 'temperature' widget22:06
MaximLevitskyIt contains quite a lot of redundant stuff, but I put it to the dashboard22:07
MaximLevitskyDoesn't support nvidia binary driver too22:07
MaximLevitskydon't really need that much, I only keep an eye on temperature when I use nouveau22:08
rats__ya I watch temp when I make vidio DVDs22:09
rats__in CLI sensors gives alot of info22:10
MaximLevitskyDolphin need a background22:18
MaximLevitskyReally miss that feature from nautilus22:18
rats__Backgrounds in Dolphin ? I do like split screens though22:22
MaximLevitskyYes, thats a feature that somehow survived in nautilus22:23
rats__file tranfer the easy way22:23
MaximLevitskyYep, here I don't see that connect to server option, right?22:24
rats__not sure22:28
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uriel_hi23:10
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sixofour1234I just instaleld kubuntu 9.10 [10.10 won't work properly] and I would like to remove KDE and use gnome, is there a guide of sorts on how to do this or may someone assist me in it?23:17
sixofour1234had to use kubuntu 9.10 [older cd i had] because ubuntu 10.10 won't work23:17
Hamrai believe installing the package "ubuntu-desktop" will install alongise it everything needed to run a GNOME desktop23:19
Hamra!package ubuntu-desktop23:19
Axlinafter installing ubuntu-desktop: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnomekarmic23:20
sixofour1234apt-getting ubuntu-desktop now23:20
sixofour1234k thanks23:20
Axlinjust leave out the "&& sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" in the command they give, as that would be redundant :P23:21
sixofour1234:P23:21
sixofour1234eh, this kinda sucks, they give you a big command to paste into terminal, but you cannot select all of it23:22
sixofour1234to copypaste it23:22
MaximLevitskysixofour1234: you'll be sorry!!!! :-)23:22
MaximLevitskyI used gnome for about 2 years23:23
sixofour1234nah, i had kde for awhile, i prefer gnome23:23
MaximLevitskyTheir feature removal attitude finally got me23:23
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sixofour1234my biggest gripe is the file browser23:23
sixofour1234it was pretty bad when i used it before [in 9.10]23:24
Axlinsixofour1234: http://pastebin.com/jZ6kz3L723:24
MaximLevitskyTo be honest nautilus isn't much better23:24
MaximLevitskyThat was the last straw: http://lwn.net/Articles/433409/23:24
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sixofour1234axlin so i run this command - the ubuntu-desktop install..then reboot?23:24
Hamrato be honest, both dolphin and nautilus are kinda aweful... :P23:24
Axlinyep sixofour123423:24
MaximLevitskyThey think we are clowns or something23:25
Axlini kinda like dolphin... but this is in comparison to nautilus, thunar, and os x's finder :P23:25
MaximLevitskynone are good to be honest23:27
sixofour1234everyone knows the best is explorerer23:28
sixofour1234explorer*23:28
MaximLevitskynah, it gets on my nerves as well23:28
Hamragood old KDE3.5 konqueror was very good... the kpart responsible for file browsing, while majorly improved in latest 4.6... still feels weird23:28
MaximLevitskykonqueror was good23:29
sixofour1234wow its still installing ubuntu-desktop23:29
sixofour1234says i got 4 minutes left23:29
sixofour1234must be big23:29
Hamracd and ls are my file browser nowadays...23:29
MaximLevitskyBut I decided that I rather suffer a minor problem there or there rather that see all settings disapper23:29
MaximLevitskyJust try Unity and you will know what I mean23:29
Hamraheard lots about unity... might install gnome after natty is release just to see what all this hype is23:30
sixofour1234i'm not that hardcore of a user really, so its no big deal for me, i think alot of the changes to gnome have to do with idiot proofing, while users who are advanced find it annoying23:30
MaximLevitskynope, to idiot proof the linux, one needs first to fix bugs and create simple applications for tasks23:31
MaximLevitskylike take simple-scan for instance, thats is really good step forward23:31
sixofour1234also, kde seems to run slower than gnome for me every time i tried it23:31
sixofour1234like jsut now clicking the links posted in chat, took a few seconds to open23:31
sixofour1234with konquruer23:32
MaximLevitskysixofour1234: that is kwin fault23:32
sixofour1234and i had to triple click, which is weird23:32
MaximLevitskykwin here is order of magnitude slower that compiz23:32
Hamrawell... yes, it's no secret, KDE requires more from a computer than gnome23:32
sixofour1234and my computer isn't rich23:32
sixofour1234:P23:32
MaximLevitskyBut **drum roll*** you can easily use compiz in KDE23:32
MaximLevitskyYou even now have an drop down menu which WM to use23:33
sixofour1234i don't need to see my desktop turned into an icecube that actually melts any time soon23:33
MaximLevitskyAnd look at Unity23:33
sixofour1234what is unity?23:34
MaximLevitskyA new interface like plasma for gnome23:34
sixofour1234oh23:34
MaximLevitskyit replaces toolbar and desktop23:34
sixofour1234is it any good?23:34
MaximLevitskyguees what it has zero 1-1, 5^0-1 settings23:35
sixofour1234as far as visuals are concerned i rarely do more than change colors and fonts23:35
sixofour1234you lost me MaximLevitsky23:35
sixofour1234lol23:35
MaximLevitskyforget any applets23:35
MaximLevitskymeet the forced mac-style global menu23:35
MaximLevitskyyou can't even launch 2 copies of same application23:36
sixofour1234yeah i read about that23:36
sixofour1234but i don't think it prevents you from doing it, maybe it jsut makes it more inconvienent?23:36
MaximLevitskyits launch menu is full screen and you need a hour to find anything there23:36
sixofour1234lol23:37
MaximLevitskyAnd all of this is _by design_23:37
MaximLevitskyAnd it mandates compiz, but doesn't let you use the cube!23:37
MaximLevitskyits like raping it...23:37
MaximLevitskyGnome shell is more or less the same beast23:38
sixofour1234that's what i normally use23:38
MaximLevitskyAnd it acts as a composing manager, so there you can't run compiz at all23:38
MaximLevitskyneeds 3d too, but draws none of it23:39
sixofour1234well, how about don't run compiz :D all my problems solved23:39
MaximLevitskyjust read this http://lwn.net/Articles/433409/23:39
sixofour1234i had it before but its pretty novelty to me23:39
sixofour1234well23:40
sixofour1234if i could open the link i will23:40
MaximLevitskywell, with gnome-shell you get all the compiz problems (slow, uses resources, etc) but none of its nice features23:40
MaximLevitskyand its forced on you, and zero settings23:41
MaximLevitskyI mean this time gnome really stepped the line23:41
MaximLevitskyI like Gnome 2 as it is, but thats is just too far23:41
MaximLevitskyIn gnome 3, they even hid the shutdown button23:42
MaximLevitskyI mean to shutdown, you will need to press alt, then open a menu and select shutdown23:42
michi911hi all23:42
michi911ive a problem with the volano java chat....23:43
michi911if i open the chat i cant close the java  windows23:43
michi911can someone help me23:44
michi911using ff 3.6/4.0, jre6.20/6.24 but nothing works23:45
MaximLevitskymichi911: well, bugs, bugs, bugs23:45
sixofour1234well MaximLevitsky most of the things mentioned in that article are fairly shitty, but we'll just see how gnome works now, if its too bad for me i can try kde again, it really boils down to which i can get to run faster23:48
MaximLevitskysixofour1234: currenly gnome is quite good23:49
sixofour1234only problems i had really23:50
sixofour1234was keymappings23:50
sixofour1234my laptop had a broken enter button, so i had to remap enter to rshift23:50
sixofour1234it was a pain in the butt23:50
sixofour1234i had to make a script that loads on  linux boot23:50
sixofour1234a very rigged way of doing it23:50
sixofour1234also pressing the "disable mouse" button on the laptop right above the mouse tracker, caused gnome to freeze requiring a reboot23:51
MaximLevitskyThere is one good saying: Make it simple but not too simple23:51
sixofour1234i eventually ripped that button out because i kept hitting it23:51
MaximLevitskyCurrently gnome contains the minimum of settings. Its possible to adjust to it, but not that easy23:52
MaximLevitskyGnome 3 is well below the minumum, its just unusable23:53
MaximLevitskyWOW, kwin4 unlike compiz actually doesn't allow a window to span 2 desktops23:57
MaximLevitskyI absolutely hate that compiz feature23:57
gomiboybut it's cool to play a video on the border of the cube :D23:59

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