[01:22] <kristian-aalborg> I can't get wifi running.... again
[01:30] <The_Paco> yo, anyone have issue with adobe flash for FF4 displaying upside down webcam images? Running 10.04x64 on an asus g50v laptop. Cheese works great with the camera. Tried to update libv4l-0, no dice
[03:22] <Motoservo> If I want to write a cron job that will open an ssh connection to a server and then run svn revert, how would that look? I've tried a few things but nothing is working,
[03:34] <pleia2> depending on the trouble you're having, I'd put all the login and svn stuff into a script and then just execute that script from cron
[03:36] <pleia2> what exactly is "not working"? the job not executing from cron at all? the revert command not being successful? ssh not successful?
[03:37] <Motoservo> well, I tried (guessed) putting the password with the user name like (user:pass@domain.com) but it's still prompting a password. Thats the first thing failing.
[03:38] <pleia2> ok, you probably don't want to be using password based logins for something like this :)
[03:38] <pleia2> you'll want to set up ssh keys
[03:38] <Motoservo> I realize that's not secure but it's not that important in this context.
[03:38] <Motoservo> this account is sort of a sandbox.
[03:38] <Motoservo> k
[03:38] <pleia2> if you're not worried about security you should still use keys, but you can use passwordless keys
[03:39] <Motoservo> I'll have to look that up.
[03:39] <pleia2> so on the client (where the cron job is) you create a key pair with: ssh-keygen
[03:39] <pleia2> when it prompts for a password, just hit enter, and that will output an .ssh/id_rsa and .ssh/id_rsa.pub file
[03:40] <pleia2> take the contents of .ssh/id_rsa.pub and on the REMOTE server, put the contents in a ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[03:40] <Motoservo> I'm setting this server up for client. This is for a his developers and I'm trying to keep his effort to a minimum.
[03:40] <Motoservo> I'll try that, thanks!
[03:41] <pleia2> unfortunately there really is no good automated way to send an actual password over ssh
[03:41] <pleia2> you could have a script put it in, but storing an ssh password in a script is so so so bad when you can easily do this with ssh keys
[03:43] <Motoservo> The keys will work.
[03:43] <pleia2> :)
[03:44] <pleia2> if you are concerned about security in the future you should look into ssh-agent
[09:52] <MK`> Hey, can someone help me installing Ubuntu please? I am getting an error
[09:57] <xardas008> can you post the error?
[09:57] <xardas008> and please try to describe how the error occured
[09:57] <MK`> I selected to manually partition because I want it to use a different disk. I formatted the disk to be an ext4 partition and this was the error: "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from partitioning menu."
[09:57] <MK`> Is it because I am missing the swap partition? How big do I make the swap if so?
[09:58] <xardas008> did you define the mountpoint for / ?
[09:58] <MK`> No; how do I do that?
[09:58] <MK`> Oh, I had left that blank
[09:58] <xardas008> right click on the partition and then in the last drop down box at the bottom of the dialog (Mountpoint)
[09:59] <xardas008> swap depends on your ram
[09:59] <MK`> Do I just make it one ext4 parititon and set the mount point to /?
[09:59] <MK`> or also make the swap at the end
[09:59] <xardas008> depends on your need
[09:59] <MK`> It's an older system; 1.5GB RAM, a 15GB hdd
[09:59] <xardas008> a swap is needed, ok 3gb swap should be there
[09:59] <MK`> ok
[10:00] <xardas008> at the beginning or end of the hard drive
[10:00] <MK`> Does it matter where?
[10:00] <xardas008> no
[10:01] <xardas008> but you are more flexible
[10:01] <xardas008> if you define a separate home partition you can resize later if  more space is needed, but if swap is between both / and /home you can't resize
[10:02] <MK`> Ok, where do you suggest? And do I specify a mount point for the swap?
[10:03] <xardas008> swap doesn't need a mount point
[10:03] <xardas008> place it at the end
[10:03] <MK`> ok
[10:04] <MK`> so [/] [/home] [swap]?
[10:05] <xardas008> the / and swap will be enough because you only have 15 gb
[10:05] <MK`> I have another hard drive for media (that is currently holding windows)
[10:06] <xardas008> if you want to have windows on that you can let it as it is
[10:06] <xardas008> you don't need to specify a mount point, only if it should be mounted on boot you need a mount point
[10:07] <MK`> I just got many orders of magnitude more confused X)
[10:09] <MK`> There's 2 disks, an 80GB drive where windows is installed, and this 15GB where I want to put Ubuntu. Will I need to manually specify which disk to boot to get to one of them or will I be able to have grub let me choose even if they are on different disks?
[10:10] <xardas008> Ubuntu will have an entry for both in grub so you can choose on boot time which os to load
[10:10] <xardas008> you should make sure to install the grub on the correct partition (would be best to install it on the hard drive where ubuntu will be installed)
[10:11] <xardas008> the entry is at the bottom of the partition manager screen
[10:11] <MK`> The 15GB HD is a slave, should I install grub on the master hdd instead where windows is? Or...hm
[10:12] <xardas008> if you specify grub on the slave the mbr of the windows hard drive won't be affected, which would be better in the case something goes wrong with ubuntu (maybe deleting it later f.e.)
[10:12] <MK`> Alright
[10:13] <xardas008> if you can specify the order of the hard drives in bios it will work
[10:13] <MK`> Ah good
[10:13] <xardas008> and if it doesn't work you can try again and windows won't be affected
[10:14] <xardas008> then you choose the other hard drive
[10:17] <MK`> alright
[10:23] <MK`> let's hope I did this correctly :P
[10:50] <MK`> Success!
[10:50] <xardas008> great
[10:51] <MK`> apparently that old noise my Windows ME machine made when working was the HD, so now whenever I boot Ubuntu I'll be having terrible flashbacks
[10:51] <xardas008> only during boot?
[10:51] <MK`> Whenever it's reading something it seems
[10:52] <MK`> It's a very old hard drive heh
[10:52] <xardas008> during boot it's normal (i have some strange outputs too), but when bootet everything is normal
[10:54] <MK`> I think this HDD was from 2001
[10:56] <xardas008> i had a 20gb hard drive in my first personal computer in 1996 xD
[10:56] <UndiFineD> 20 gb ? are you sure ?
[10:56] <xardas008> yeah
[10:57] <UndiFineD> in 1996 I was happy to buy 1 GB
[10:57] <xardas008> it was quite big for that time
[10:58] <UndiFineD> my system I bought in 1995 had a 400 MB drive
[11:00] <MK`> the noise is whenever I do anything
[11:00] <MK`> open the software center, make a new account... etc.
[11:01] <xardas008> if there only is a noise this could be normal because the hardware is a little bit older
[11:01] <MK`> yeah
[11:03] <MK`> It's like this noise except a lot more hollow sounding and a lower frequency: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9obzgmWrlM
[11:04] <MK`> but otherwise the same
[11:09] <MK`> disk has 33 bad sectors
[11:09] <xardas008> that's not good
[11:09] <MK`> yeah, hm
[11:11] <MK`> Also, I looked at the partitions, and it has the Extended partition (which contains the same-sized ext4 partition) and the Swap partition
[11:11] <MK`> but on my other installation of linux, the swap is under the extended partition along with ext4
[11:11] <MK`> did I do it wrong?
[11:12] <xardas008> no i don't think so
[11:32] <MK`> Damn
[11:32] <MK`> I forgot the ram is 1.5 GiB, not 1.5 GB. So I have 2.8 GiB swap :P should I make it bigger?
[11:34] <xardas008> no that's normal
[11:35] <MK`> even if it's not 2x as large as the ram?
[11:36] <xardas008> normally not all of you swap will be used
[11:36] <xardas008> so it doesn't matter, this are only reference data
[11:36] <MK`> for the record this PC is used for stuff like Libreoffice and some music stuff
[11:36] <MK`> not even video
[11:38] <xardas008> my notebook has 4gb ram, my swap is also 4 gb but only a little of it is used while working with such programs you mentioned
[11:38] <xardas008> but can be that you need more of that because the hardware is old
[11:38] <xardas008> only a can be not a must be
[11:38] <MK`> the rest of the computer is about 5 years younger than the HD
[11:39] <xardas008> you can watch the disk usage using the System Monitor
[11:40] <xardas008> you find this program in the Administration menu
[11:40] <MK`> yeah; I am running update manager and it says ram is at 20%, swap at 0
[11:41] <xardas008> that's why i like linux more than windows, on windows ram will always be near 100%
[11:41] <MK`> heh
[11:41] <MK`> as I install all these updates CPU is consistently at about 80%
[11:41] <xardas008> single core?
[11:42] <MK`> yeah
[11:44] <xardas008> it's normal my notebook has the same phänomen when installing updates
[11:44] <MK`> 2.93 GHz intel celeron D
[11:44] <MK`> it hit 100% for a while before it finished
[11:45] <xardas008> my cpu is always between 20-50%
[11:45] <xardas008> when it is idle
[12:31] <MK`> I need to just build a new PC out of this old one... new tower and everything
[13:46] <serfus> is it possible to use 11.04 without unity? to stay with just the plain old gnome?
[13:59] <charlie-tca> yes, just chooses classic-gnome session at login
[14:53] <shahan> hi all
[15:32] <holstein> serfus: theres a classic login
[15:32] <holstein> for now at least
[15:32] <holstein> at the login screen, you can select it
[15:32] <serfus> it has many problems
[15:33] <holstein> it?
[15:33] <holstein> unity?
[15:36] <holstein> well, anyways
[15:36] <holstein> they have a couple weeks to sort it out
[15:38] <serfus> the use of gnome on 11.4
[15:38] <holstein> hmmm
[15:38] <holstein> seemed like gnome to me
[15:38] <serfus> i have here only 10.10 but it is someone who i am trying to help out
[19:29] <OcXcPunk> I am trying to burn an iso. Brasero has this creating checksum bug that goes on for 8 hours. The cd dvd creator didn't do anything when I added the file and clicked write to disk. I installed poweriso but I don't know how to bring it up. I don't know how to do it on acetoneiso.
[19:30] <bdfhjk> How many files are You trying to burn?
[19:30] <OcXcPunk> just one
[19:30] <bdfhjk> and Brasero creating checksum 8 hours?
[19:31] <bdfhjk> hm...
[19:31] <OcXcPunk> ya I did it at 12 last night and I woke up at 10 and it was still going
[19:32] <bdfhjk> if You trying to burn is on CD, maybe Your CD-ROM is damaged?
[19:32] <bdfhjk> 'burning function
[19:32] <OcXcPunk> but I burned a game iso a couple days ago
[19:34] <OcXcPunk> I did it though brasero but it didnt do the checksum thing for that long it just burned it
[21:13] <kristian-aalborg> here's my fstab - any comments?
[21:13] <kristian-aalborg> pretty basic stuff
[21:55] <UndiFineD> kristian-aalborg, hat fstab ?
[21:55] <UndiFineD> what
[21:56] <kristian-aalborg> lol, forgot to paste
[21:56] <kristian-aalborg> http://pastebin.com/RF04RA2T
[21:58] <UndiFineD>  /media/mediepartition <-- is that correct ?
[21:58] <UndiFineD> mediE
[21:58] <kristian-aalborg> that is my native tongue, you bastard :P
[21:59] <UndiFineD> here is mine
[21:59] <UndiFineD> http://pastebin.com/NjkhKG0n
[21:59] <kristian-aalborg> yeah, I usually keep everything in english but that one slipped and I couldn't bother to fix when it is of no actual importance
[22:01] <kristian-aalborg> looks pretty much like mine