[00:03] brough, there's an interviews tag, and an interview category [00:05] brousch: http://lococast.net/tag/pycon2011 [00:05] already on there [00:05] or just http://lococast.net/category/interview [00:05] lots of ways [00:06] if I'm missing one let me know, I sometimes miss a tag [00:15] awesome [00:20] pimping you on Mike Driscoll's blog http://www.blog.pythonlibrary.org/2011/04/01/pycon-2011-post-pycon-articles/ === Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink [02:00] jcastro: Yeah, I was going to wait until Saturday [02:01] Is there a good resource on creating what is basically a dial-up "isp" using Linux? [02:02] brousch: nice, thanks for the plug [03:26] Anyone having trouble with gwibber and twitter? [03:48] twitters been intermittently broke for me the last few weeks, today I got 2 "opps, we're broke" messages then short time later they were resolved [04:09] Yeah, it was broked for me most of the day [04:09] snap-l: it's working ok for me [04:15] Not working over here. [04:16] weird [04:23] Wonder if some stupid usage limit is in play [04:24] * greg-g shrugs [04:26] snap-l: I don't get it, because I'm using gwibber+twitter+identi.ca just fine right now, and all day [04:36] weird, Mendeley just crashed my compiz [14:55] greg-g: I think it was just rate limiting for me [14:57] Seems to be working now [14:58] I think the natty stuff is frozen for this weekend [14:58] haven't received any updates since I downloaded it a few days ago [16:05] Team-Xlink: most ISP docs are probably long lost from 15 years ago. [16:05] Team-Xlink: but if you can find PPP howto it probably covers it. [16:05] lol perfect timing! [16:05] I just woke up. [16:06] Alright, sweet thank you@ [16:06] @ [16:06] ! === Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink [16:07] Thats the best example I could come up with to relate what I'm trying to do too. [16:28] I'm creating 32bit disk images on USB keys. I'll have three of them [16:28] one of which will have a persistent filesystem [16:33] i got 24 beers from various west MI breweries [16:33] brousch: Awesome! [16:34] brousch: nice, can't be all diff breweries though unless Michigan went brewery crazy [16:34] arcadia, founders, bells, dark horse [16:34] thinking [16:36] oh, Traverse City count? and New Holland [16:36] new holland [16:37] i got founders, arcadia, and new holland [16:37] 2 from founders since its my favorite [16:37] had a beer from new holland a long time ago, one of my favorites I've had, and I don't like fruit beer, but it was a Blueberry Stout [16:37] Founders is great [16:37] hah, yeah they have some crazy ones [16:38] forget, I was just at Founders, I had the backwoods something [16:38] i love oatmeal stout, but can never find it in stores [16:39] Sam Smith has a good oatmeal stout, they have it everywhere here [16:39] oh, they call it breakfast stout [16:39] I need to bring some chips and salsa. ;) [16:42] yum [16:45] we won't need an afterparty. it will be all party [16:45] wfm [16:48] i don't know what that means [16:49] works for me [16:51] ah [16:52] i scoffed at the book of internet acronyms they were selling to old people at Flowerland. guess i should have bought one [17:04] hey, is anyone around and able to give me a hand? [17:07] with? [17:07] GLib error of some sort. [17:07] i wanted to see if anyone was up before sending issues to the room. it's saturday, afterall. [17:07] GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.4/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL) [17:07] that's the error i get when i run sudo apt-get update [17:08] oh, and i did an upgrade to Natty last night. [17:08] looking [17:09] danke. [17:12] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655751 [17:12] is what i end up with [17:13] known bug in gnome with su minus the -? [17:14] is there something i can modify to fix it? [17:14] guess it's hitting the sudo call. try su - and then just apt-gey upgrade [17:14] su - ? [17:14] ok [17:14] don't see a final solution in that bug :-( [17:14] ugh [17:14] well, the funny thing is... i never set a su password. [17:14] ha ha ha. [17:14] so maybe a future update will help [17:14] maybe [17:15] blargh. [17:15] hmm, not sure then. does the upgrade not work? [17:15] correct. [17:15] or work with that error [17:15] k [17:15] well, i can work with synaptic [17:16] seems to update in there [17:16] yea, it's probably hard coded to do something diff [17:16] oi. [17:17] i wonder if it's been reported on launchpad? [17:17] thanks for the help, rick_h_droid [17:17] you're on your phone? [17:18] yea, have the boy and no computers allowed [17:18] only phones, no tv and such [17:19] ok... [17:21] thanks for your help. i'll wait it out and see if that's fixed. [17:21] can you do a sudo su -? [17:22] probably not, but want to make sure [17:22] nope [17:38] rick_h_droid: Are you at least reading or something? [17:38] huh? [17:39] "only phones, no tv and such" [17:39] no, sit on the floor and play with the boy [17:39] Eric's working part of today [17:40] but he just went down for naptime, so lunch and computer break [17:43] akh, ok [17:56] bah, this isn't good [17:56] what's not good? [17:56] has some more sticky key to clean up and now the trackpoint is acting up [17:57] keys are great now, but the mouse is bad...might end up back at getting a new keyboard for the laptop after all :/ [17:59] ugh. [17:59] well, least you know what's wrong? heh. [18:00] yea, first time I ever spilled anything on a keyboard [18:00] guess I was overdue [18:04] i'm lucky I haven't spilled anything either. [18:04] next to, but not on. [18:04] rick_h_: ugh [18:04] yea, this was good for a spill too. I had a cover on the drink and only spilled a little bit [18:04] but tea + honey == worse I guess [18:05] eeep. [18:11] it's the honey that did it. [18:11] yea, :/ but you can't have earl grey without honey :P [18:12] i drink it plain... *shrug* [18:12] now, my coffee? not plain. [18:12] tea is almost always plain. [18:13] I drink 'em both plain [18:14] coffee and tea? [18:14] i guess i just prefer my coffee with cream and sugar and my tea plain. *shrug* tea is good with lemon though... [18:14] I'm a slightly sweet guy [18:14] Now he's not [18:14] no* [18:14] =P [18:14] heh [18:15] little sweet-n-low with blacks like irish breakfast, etc...and honey in earl grey [18:16] :) [18:16] sounds good. [18:17] mmmm, this is the best mug of coffee I've made [18:17] :) [18:18] stupid question: why wasn't indicator datetime installed when i did the upgrade to Natty? and now when i start it from the menu, why won't it start? *frustrated* [18:18] gawd, i feel like a n00b. [18:22] ok. gonna log out and back in. again. blargh. [18:26] back. now indicator datetime is installed and working. whoo-hoo. [18:27] yay [18:27] snap-l: you try out the pgsql bookie install? [18:30] gamerchick02: yeah, sometimes with those indicator things I had bad experiences from upgrades, seems to be a tough upgrade path to always get right, or something [18:30] ah. thanks greg-g. [18:30] i was like "where's my bloody clock?!?!" [18:31] I haven't done Natty yet, but I had a similar issue with.... uhhh, Maverick maybe? one of the recent ones [18:31] yeah [18:37] I did a clean install of maverick on my laptop and it was good. [18:37] i *should* have done a clean beta install, i think.... [19:41] gamerchick02: but, testing upgrades is also really important :/ [19:42] gamerchick02: kind of a catch-22, the bugs won't be found if you don't do it, but you won't run into bugs (and thus will be better off) if you don't do it :) [19:49] yeah, it is important. [19:49] sorry about the signing in and out though, greg-g and everyone. [19:49] i've reported 4 bugs already. [19:50] indicator-weather, empathy, gwibber and compiz. [19:58] how is your global jam going? [19:58] chicago one is whack as hell today, and tomorrow i am not even bothering with it [19:58] fuckin' arch kids everywhere at this open source conference [19:59] oi [20:09] heh, you don't like the arch guys nixternal ? :P [20:16] gamerchick02: awesome! 4 bug reports! mind linking to them so I can watch them/help out if needed? [20:16] nixternal: ours is tomorrow afternoon [20:44] rick_h_: no, they are all little twits, they need to be smacked around. they are what the gentoo idiots were 5 or so years ago [20:53] yay back to normal speed internet [20:53] no crappy hotel connection for a week :) [20:54] nixternal: i have also noticed a lot of younger users going to arch lately [20:54] makes them feel 1337 [21:02] * rick_h_ looks at that arch install disk on his desk...ummm [21:03] see [21:03] punk kids [21:04] a lot of interest in those silly non-gnome window managers too. probably the same reason [21:25] no problem, greg-g. lemme find them again... [21:26] gamerchick02: cool! :) I'll try to see if people can replicate them/comment on them tomorrow during the jam [21:26] the jam is tomorrow? well, i'll try to be in the irc tomorrow. [21:26] :) [21:26] rick_h_ snap-l I see pyohio is july 30, 31 this year. just thought you'd like to know [21:28] greg-g: weather indicator: https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/748504 [21:28] greg-g: empathy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/748437 [21:29] rick_h_: Not yet [21:29] greg-g: gwibber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/748409 [21:29] sorry, it was three, greg-g, not four, but if i hang around long enough, i'm sure to find another one... [21:30] i don't think the comiz one got through. >_< [21:31] gamerchick02: :) thanks! [21:31] you're welcome. [21:33] huh, I can't seem to get to those bugs [21:36] what? they're there in my profile... how strange. [21:36] :( [21:36] is launchpad broken? [21:37] whoa. i logged out and i can't get to them either. [21:37] could be, I'll take a look later [21:37] probably private? make them public, perhaps? [21:37] what. what. what. [21:38] there. all are public now. [21:38] i'm not sure why they were marked as private. that's stupid. [21:38] *shakes stick at launchpad* [21:47] gamerchick02: if they are automatically reported bugs, they might contain personal info, so yeah, better safe than sorry I guess. Though I thought they changed that default, since the actual likelihood that there was personal info (for the majority of packages) was low. [21:48] i'm at the point where i don't much care if there's personal info in there. I mean, how's it going to get fixed if nobody else can see it? [21:49] and i doubt it's really that bad. [21:49] well, like passwords [21:49] probably the same amount of private stuff google or microsoft get when you use chrome or IE [21:49] that could be a problem. [21:49] I've seen automatically reported bugs with passwords in them [21:49] eeep. [21:50] luckily they were private, I reviewed, deleted the passwords, then made public [21:50] i didn't check that... [21:50] whoops [21:52] ok. so i don't understand this error with empathy. it segfaulted. i started ebuddy, it reported that aim was signed on twice, then empathy came back to life? [21:52] it's like a zombie or something. [22:19] lococast time! :) [22:20] i'm hoping to cram in half a dozen podcasts while driving tomorrow [22:21] oooh. fun stuff. i'm catching up. again. >_< [23:15] where rick_h_ is involved, i always feel like i'm catching up, again. i can't imagine working for/with him [23:15] hehe. i'm *always* catching up on podcasts. [23:42] poor tjagoda http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/04/02/2159217/Android-Passes-BlackBerry-In-US-Market-Share [23:45] Meh [23:45] I am not worried