[00:03] <rick_h_> brough, there's an interviews tag, and an interview category
[00:05] <rick_h_> brousch: http://lococast.net/tag/pycon2011
[00:05] <rick_h_> already on there
[00:05] <rick_h_> or just http://lococast.net/category/interview
[00:05] <rick_h_> lots of ways
[00:06] <rick_h_> if I'm missing one let me know, I sometimes miss a tag
[00:15] <brousch> awesome
[00:20] <brousch> pimping you on Mike Driscoll's blog http://www.blog.pythonlibrary.org/2011/04/01/pycon-2011-post-pycon-articles/
[02:00] <snap-l> jcastro: Yeah, I was going to wait until Saturday
[02:01] <TeamXlink> Is there a good resource on creating what is basically a dial-up "isp" using Linux?
[02:02] <rick_h_> brousch: nice, thanks for the plug
[03:26] <snap-l> Anyone having trouble with gwibber and twitter?
[03:48] <binbrain> twitters been intermittently broke for me the last few weeks, today I got 2 "opps, we're broke" messages then short time later they were resolved
[04:09] <snap-l> Yeah, it was broked for me most of the day
[04:09] <greg-g> snap-l: it's working ok for me
[04:15] <snap-l> Not working over here.
[04:16] <greg-g> weird
[04:23] <snap-l> Wonder if some stupid usage limit is in play
[04:24]  * greg-g shrugs
[04:26] <greg-g> snap-l: I don't get it, because I'm using gwibber+twitter+identi.ca just fine right now, and all day
[04:36] <greg-g> weird, Mendeley just crashed my compiz
[14:55] <snap-l> greg-g: I think it was just rate limiting for me
[14:57] <snap-l> Seems to be working now
[14:58] <snap-l> I think the natty stuff is frozen for this weekend
[14:58] <snap-l> haven't received any updates since I downloaded it a few days ago
[16:05] <jrwren> Team-Xlink: most ISP docs are probably long lost from 15 years ago.
[16:05] <jrwren> Team-Xlink: but if you can find PPP howto it probably covers it.
[16:05] <Team-Xlink> lol perfect timing!
[16:05] <Team-Xlink> I just woke up.
[16:06] <Team-Xlink> Alright, sweet thank you@
[16:06] <Team-Xlink> @
[16:06] <Team-Xlink> !
[16:07] <TeamXlink> Thats the best example I could come up with to relate what I'm trying to do too.
[16:28] <snap-l> I'm creating 32bit disk images on USB keys. I'll have three of them
[16:28] <snap-l> one of which will have a persistent filesystem
[16:33] <brousch> i got 24 beers from various west MI breweries
[16:33] <snap-l> brousch: Awesome!
[16:34] <binbrain> brousch: nice, can't be all diff breweries though unless Michigan went brewery crazy
[16:34] <binbrain> arcadia, founders, bells, dark horse
[16:34] <binbrain> thinking
[16:36] <binbrain> oh, Traverse City count? and New Holland
[16:36] <brousch> new holland
[16:37] <brousch> i got founders, arcadia, and new holland
[16:37] <brousch> 2 from founders since its my favorite
[16:37] <binbrain> had a beer from new holland a long time ago, one of my favorites I've had, and I don't like fruit beer, but it was a Blueberry Stout
[16:37] <binbrain> Founders is great
[16:37] <brousch> hah, yeah they have some crazy ones
[16:38] <binbrain> forget, I was just at Founders, I had the backwoods something
[16:38] <brousch> i love oatmeal stout, but can never find it in stores
[16:39] <binbrain> Sam Smith has a good oatmeal stout, they have it everywhere here
[16:39] <brousch> oh, they call it breakfast stout
[16:39] <snap-l> I need to bring some chips and salsa. ;)
[16:42] <brousch> yum
[16:45] <brousch> we won't need an afterparty. it will be all party
[16:45] <snap-l> wfm
[16:48] <brousch> i don't know what that means
[16:49] <snap-l> works for me
[16:51] <brousch> ah
[16:52] <brousch> i scoffed at the book of internet acronyms they were selling to old people at Flowerland. guess i should have bought one
[17:04] <gamerchick02> hey, is anyone around and able to give me a hand?
[17:07] <rick_h_droid> with?
[17:07] <gamerchick02> GLib error of some sort.
[17:07] <gamerchick02> i wanted to see if anyone was up before sending issues to the room. it's saturday, afterall.
[17:07] <gamerchick02> GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.4/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
[17:07] <gamerchick02> that's the error i get when i run sudo apt-get update
[17:08] <gamerchick02> oh, and i did an upgrade to Natty last night.
[17:08] <rick_h_droid> looking
[17:09] <gamerchick02> danke.
[17:12] <rick_h_droid> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655751
[17:12] <rick_h_droid> is what i end up with
[17:13] <rick_h_droid> known bug in gnome with su minus the -?
[17:14] <gamerchick02> is there something i can modify to fix it?
[17:14] <rick_h_droid> guess it's hitting the sudo call. try su - and then just apt-gey upgrade
[17:14] <gamerchick02> su - ?
[17:14] <gamerchick02> ok
[17:14] <rick_h_droid> don't see a final solution in that bug :-(
[17:14] <gamerchick02> ugh
[17:14] <gamerchick02> well, the funny thing is... i never set a su password.
[17:14] <gamerchick02> ha ha ha.
[17:14] <rick_h_droid> so maybe a future update will help
[17:14] <gamerchick02> maybe
[17:15] <gamerchick02> blargh.
[17:15] <rick_h_droid> hmm, not sure then. does the upgrade not work?
[17:15] <gamerchick02> correct.
[17:15] <rick_h_droid> or work with that error
[17:15] <rick_h_droid> k
[17:15] <gamerchick02> well, i can work with synaptic
[17:16] <gamerchick02> seems to update in there
[17:16] <rick_h_droid> yea, it's probably hard coded to do something diff
[17:16] <gamerchick02> oi.
[17:17] <gamerchick02> i wonder if it's been reported on launchpad?
[17:17] <gamerchick02> thanks for the help, rick_h_droid
[17:17] <gamerchick02> you're on your phone?
[17:18] <rick_h_droid> yea, have the boy and no computers allowed
[17:18] <rick_h_droid> only phones, no tv and such
[17:19] <gamerchick02> ok...
[17:21] <gamerchick02> thanks for your help. i'll wait it out and see if that's fixed.
[17:21] <rick_h_droid> can you do a sudo su -?
[17:22] <rick_h_droid> probably not, but want to make sure
[17:22] <gamerchick02> nope
[17:38] <snap-l> rick_h_droid: Are you at least reading or something?
[17:38] <rick_h_droid> huh?
[17:39] <snap-l> "only phones, no tv and such"
[17:39] <rick_h_droid> no, sit on the floor and play with the boy
[17:39] <rick_h_droid> Eric's working part of today
[17:40] <rick_h_droid> but he just went down for naptime, so lunch and computer break
[17:43] <snap-l> akh, ok
[17:56] <rick_h_> bah, this isn't good
[17:56] <gamerchick02> what's not good?
[17:56] <rick_h_> has some more sticky key to clean up and now the trackpoint is acting up
[17:57] <rick_h_> keys are great now, but the mouse is bad...might end up back at getting a new keyboard for the laptop after all :/
[17:59] <gamerchick02> ugh.
[17:59] <gamerchick02> well, least you know what's wrong? heh.
[18:00] <rick_h_> yea, first time I ever spilled anything on a keyboard
[18:00] <rick_h_> guess I was overdue
[18:04] <gamerchick02> i'm lucky I haven't spilled anything either.
[18:04] <gamerchick02> next to, but not on.
[18:04] <snap-l> rick_h_: ugh
[18:04] <rick_h_> yea, this was good for a spill too. I had a cover on the drink and only spilled a little bit
[18:04] <rick_h_> but tea + honey == worse I guess
[18:05] <gamerchick02> eeep.
[18:11] <gamerchick02> it's the honey that did it.
[18:11] <rick_h_> yea, :/ but you can't have earl grey without honey :P
[18:12] <gamerchick02> i drink it plain... *shrug*
[18:12] <gamerchick02> now, my coffee? not plain.
[18:12] <gamerchick02> tea is almost always plain.
[18:13] <snap-l> I drink 'em both plain
[18:14] <gamerchick02> coffee and tea?
[18:14] <gamerchick02> i guess i just prefer my coffee with cream and sugar and my tea plain. *shrug* tea is good with lemon though...
[18:14] <rick_h_> I'm a slightly sweet guy
[18:14] <tjagoda> Now he's not
[18:14] <tjagoda> no*
[18:14] <tjagoda> =P
[18:14] <gamerchick02> heh
[18:15] <rick_h_> little sweet-n-low with blacks like irish breakfast, etc...and honey in earl grey
[18:16] <gamerchick02> :)
[18:16] <gamerchick02> sounds good.
[18:17] <greg-g> mmmm, this is the best mug of coffee I've made
[18:17] <gamerchick02> :)
[18:18] <gamerchick02> stupid question: why wasn't indicator datetime installed when i did the upgrade to Natty? and now when i start it from the menu, why won't it start? *frustrated*
[18:18] <gamerchick02> gawd, i feel like a n00b.
[18:22] <gamerchick02> ok. gonna log out and back in. again. blargh.
[18:26] <gamerchick02> back. now indicator datetime is installed and working. whoo-hoo.
[18:27] <rick_h_> yay
[18:27] <rick_h_> snap-l: you try out the pgsql bookie install?
[18:30] <greg-g> gamerchick02: yeah, sometimes with those indicator things I had bad experiences from upgrades, seems to be a tough upgrade path to always get right, or something
[18:30] <gamerchick02> ah. thanks greg-g.
[18:30] <gamerchick02> i was like "where's my bloody clock?!?!"
[18:31] <greg-g> I haven't done Natty yet, but I had a similar issue with.... uhhh, Maverick maybe? one of the recent ones
[18:31] <gamerchick02> yeah
[18:37] <gamerchick02> I did a clean install of maverick on my laptop and it was good.
[18:37] <gamerchick02> i *should* have done a clean beta install, i think....
[19:41] <greg-g> gamerchick02: but, testing upgrades is also really important :/
[19:42] <greg-g> gamerchick02: kind of a catch-22, the bugs won't be found if you don't do it, but you won't run into bugs (and thus will be better off) if you don't do it :)
[19:49] <gamerchick02> yeah, it is important.
[19:49] <gamerchick02> sorry about the signing in and out though, greg-g and everyone.
[19:49] <gamerchick02> i've reported 4 bugs already.
[19:50] <gamerchick02> indicator-weather, empathy, gwibber and compiz.
[19:58] <nixternal> how is your global jam going?
[19:58] <nixternal> chicago one is whack as hell today, and tomorrow i am not even bothering with it
[19:58] <nixternal> fuckin' arch kids everywhere at this open source conference
[19:59] <gamerchick02> oi
[20:09] <rick_h_> heh, you don't like the arch guys nixternal ? :P
[20:16] <greg-g> gamerchick02: awesome! 4 bug reports! mind linking to them so I can watch them/help out if needed?
[20:16] <greg-g> nixternal: ours is tomorrow afternoon
[20:44] <nixternal> rick_h_: no, they are all little twits, they need to be smacked around. they are what the gentoo idiots were 5 or so years ago
[20:53] <jjesse> yay back to normal speed internet
[20:53] <jjesse> no crappy hotel connection for a week :)
[20:54] <brousch> nixternal: i have also noticed a lot of younger users going to arch lately
[20:54] <brousch> makes them feel 1337
[21:02]  * rick_h_ looks at that arch install disk on his desk...ummm
[21:03] <brousch> see
[21:03] <brousch> punk kids
[21:04] <brousch> a lot of interest in those silly non-gnome window managers too. probably the same reason
[21:25] <gamerchick02> no problem, greg-g. lemme find them again...
[21:26] <greg-g> gamerchick02: cool! :) I'll try to see if people can replicate them/comment on them tomorrow during the jam
[21:26] <gamerchick02> the jam is tomorrow? well, i'll try to be in the irc tomorrow.
[21:26] <gamerchick02> :)
[21:26] <brousch> rick_h_ snap-l I see pyohio is july 30, 31 this year. just thought you'd like to know
[21:28] <gamerchick02> greg-g: weather indicator: https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/748504
[21:28] <gamerchick02> greg-g: empathy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/748437
[21:29] <snap-l> rick_h_: Not yet
[21:29] <gamerchick02> greg-g: gwibber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/748409
[21:29] <gamerchick02> sorry, it was three, greg-g, not four, but if i hang around long enough, i'm sure to find another one...
[21:30] <gamerchick02> i don't think the comiz one got through. >_<
[21:31] <greg-g> gamerchick02: :) thanks!
[21:31] <gamerchick02> you're welcome.
[21:33] <greg-g> huh, I can't seem to get to those bugs
[21:36] <gamerchick02> what? they're there in my profile... how strange.
[21:36] <gamerchick02> :(
[21:36] <gamerchick02> is launchpad broken?
[21:37] <gamerchick02> whoa. i logged out and i can't get to them either.
[21:37] <greg-g> could be, I'll take a look later
[21:37] <greg-g> probably private? make them public, perhaps?
[21:37] <gamerchick02> what. what. what.
[21:38] <gamerchick02> there. all are public now.
[21:38] <gamerchick02> i'm not sure why they were marked as private. that's stupid.
[21:38] <gamerchick02> *shakes stick at launchpad*
[21:47] <greg-g> gamerchick02: if they are automatically reported bugs, they might contain personal info, so yeah, better safe than sorry I guess. Though I thought they changed that default, since the actual likelihood that there was personal info (for the majority of packages) was low.
[21:48] <gamerchick02> i'm at the point where i don't much care if there's personal info in there. I mean, how's it going to get fixed if nobody else can see it?
[21:49] <gamerchick02> and i doubt it's really that bad.
[21:49] <greg-g> well, like passwords
[21:49] <gamerchick02> probably the same amount of private stuff google or microsoft get when you use chrome or IE
[21:49] <gamerchick02> that could be a problem.
[21:49] <greg-g> I've seen automatically reported bugs with passwords in them
[21:49] <gamerchick02> eeep.
[21:50] <greg-g> luckily they were private, I reviewed, deleted the passwords, then made public
[21:50] <gamerchick02> i didn't check that...
[21:50] <gamerchick02> whoops
[21:52] <gamerchick02> ok. so i don't understand this error with empathy. it segfaulted. i started ebuddy, it reported that aim was signed on twice, then empathy came back to life?
[21:52] <gamerchick02> it's like a zombie or something.
[22:19] <gamerchick02> lococast time! :)
[22:20] <brousch> i'm hoping to cram in half a dozen podcasts while driving tomorrow
[22:21] <gamerchick02> oooh. fun stuff. i'm catching up. again. >_<
[23:15] <brousch> where rick_h_ is involved, i always feel like i'm catching up, again. i can't imagine working for/with him
[23:15] <gamerchick02> hehe. i'm *always* catching up on podcasts.
[23:42] <brousch> poor tjagoda http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/04/02/2159217/Android-Passes-BlackBerry-In-US-Market-Share
[23:45] <tjagoda> Meh
[23:45] <tjagoda> I am not worried