[02:44] <DarkwingDuck> nixternal: ping
[05:43] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: ping
[09:20] <bambee> morning
[09:32] <bambee> apachelogger: ping 
[10:17] <apachelogger> bambee: pogo
[10:18] <bambee> apachelogger: could you quick review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/phonon ? Then I will upload it to kubuntu-ninjas/ppa
[10:23] <apachelogger> bambee: is libqzeitgeist in yet?
[10:25] <bambee> apachelogger: I will upload qzeitgeist first, then phonon. An qzeitgeist was already reviewed :)
[10:25] <bambee> s/An/and/
[10:26] <apachelogger> is it in natty though?
[10:26] <apachelogger> bambee: your symbols changes stuff are invalid
[10:27] <apachelogger> -# SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4:4.7.0really4.4.4 armel i386
[10:27] <apachelogger> +# SymbolsHelper-Confirmed: 4.7.0really4.5.0 amd64
[10:28] <apachelogger> consqeuently the whole symbols file gets replaced with new entries
[10:28] <apachelogger> which is not what is supposed to happen
[10:28] <bambee> aarrf
[10:29] <c2tarun> anyone here participating in GSoC?
[10:29] <apachelogger> bambee: +Depends: libphonon4, ${misc:Depends}
[10:29] <apachelogger> that makes libphonon4-designer's dependency on libphonon4 unversioned
[10:29] <apachelogger> also it misses out on designer and what not
[10:29] <apachelogger> which is wrong
[10:30] <apachelogger> that said, it probably should suggest libqt4-designer
[10:59] <bambee> apachelogger: you're right (it should suggest libqt4-designer)
[10:59] <bambee> I agree
[11:03] <bambee> apachelogger:  +Depends: libphonon4 (= ${binary:Version}), ${misc:Depends} is better ,
[11:04] <bambee> ?
[11:30] <debfx> bambee: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libphonon4 (= ${binary:Version})
[11:32] <bambee> debfx: mhhhh... interesting
[11:32] <bambee> debfx: does ${shlibs:Depends} not include libphonon4 (= ${binary:Version}) ? 
[11:37] <debfx> bambee: afaik it only contains external libs (i.e. not built from the same source package)
[11:37] <bambee> ohh indeed
[12:41] <c2tarun> anyone here participating in any project in GSoC?
[13:24] <jussi> natty here I come!
[14:38] <stikonas> Hello again. I've written yesterday about untranslated KDE string "Desktop", but I still don't understand what Kubuntu does wrong (it works in all other distros).
[14:39] <stikonas> this launchpad translation system is so horribly broken :(...
[14:44] <debfx> stikonas: which language are you talking about?
[14:45] <stikonas> I am coordinator of Lithuanian KDE translation, so mainly Lithuanian, but I also tested with Russian
[14:45] <stikonas> I can try to test with German...
[14:46] <stikonas> then we will see if this happens with all languages...
[14:46] <debfx> hm launchpad says that it is translated: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/kdebase-workspace/+pots/plasmagenericshell/lt/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=desktop+settings
[14:47] <stikonas> debfx: I will make a screenshot
[14:48] <stikonas> debfx: http://stikonas.homelinux.org/files/2.png
[14:51] <stikonas> (and as you can see from screenshot I also suffer form that bold Ubuntu fonts bugs, but that's another issue...)
[14:52] <JontheEchidna> fiddling with the hinting settings should fix that
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> for the l10n, I have no idea how it could be *half* translated
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> very weird
[14:53] <stikonas> JontheEchidna: Dekstop word is taken from the .desktop file
[14:54] <stikonas> and they are somehow stripped to language packs
[14:54] <stikonas> probably something goes wrong somewhere
[14:54] <shadeslayer_> jussi: how is natty treating you?
[14:54] <JontheEchidna> but it's a context menu, those don't get l10n from .desktop files
[14:54] <JontheEchidna> right?
[14:54] <jussi> shadeslayer: waiting for the damn thing to download :P 
[14:54] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[14:55] <stikonas> JontheEchidna: no, here translateion is taken from /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containmant-desktop.desktop
[14:56] <stikonas> and the same happens for German language
[14:56] <stikonas> so either something is broken on my computer, this goes wrong in all languages
[14:57] <stikonas> but names of all other plasma widgets and containments are translated, so this is really weird
[14:59] <JontheEchidna> I think the string should be in here, but I can't find it: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/kdebase-workspace/+pots/desktop-kdebase-workspace
[14:59] <jussi> shadeslayer: now its installing :D
[14:59] <shadeslayer> \o/
[15:00]  * shadeslayer has a minor headache
[15:00] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containmant-desktop.desktop
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containmant-desktop.desktop natty
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> oh, typo
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-containment-desktop.desktop
[15:02] <stikonas> upstream ships this translation in desktop_kdebase_kde-workspace.po
[15:02] <stikonas> I'll download desktop-kdebase-workspace.po from launchpad and look if the string is there
[15:03] <JontheEchidna> stikonas: If you could, filing a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations would be good too.
[15:04] <stikonas> ok
[15:05] <stikonas> .po file from launchpad has the required string
[15:08] <stikonas> it's the string number 647
[15:10] <debfx> maybe the patch to load translations of .desktop files is incomplete
[15:11] <stikonas> it may be that
[15:12] <stikonas> especially having in mind that "Desktop" is quite special word
[15:12] <stikonas> so it may be that this word gets ignored somehow
[15:16] <bambee> why does pkgkde-symbolshelper drop arches on the first line ? I use the batch-patch mode, the file looks correct except the first line... (I did read http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html) 
[15:17] <bambee> however the patch has been created from an amd64 build ...
[15:18] <stikonas> JontheEchidna: I've submitted a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/749379
[15:18] <JontheEchidna> stikonas: thanks
[15:28] <bambee> apachelogger: when you're around, could you please check symbols files (fixed on revu) ? I doubt
[15:29] <EagleScreen> hello
[15:30] <EagleScreen> is it too late to sync kdbg 2.5.0 from Debian unstable?
[15:31] <debfx> bambee: it drops all other architectures because you haven't verified them with the new upstream version
[15:33] <bambee> debfx: ok
[15:34] <EagleScreen> kdbg 2.5 is KDE4 based, has a lot of bugs fixed since 2.2.1 and works with the latest gdb
[15:35] <EagleScreen> I think we should try a feature freeze exception with it
[16:06] <jussi> shadeslayer: almost done.
[16:06] <shadeslayer> whee :D
[16:07] <shadeslayer> jussi: any issues so far?
[16:07] <jussi> shadeslayer: apart from the awfully annoying stop to accept the msttcorefonts license (which I accepted already?)
[16:07] <jussi> not much :)
[16:08] <shadeslayer> ah :D
[16:25] <jussi> shadeslayer: and we are up and running. 
[16:26] <shadeslayer> jussi: welcome to natty, have a pleasant stay :P
[16:26] <jussi> shadeslayer: any big changes I should check out?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> hmm .. alot of stuff fixed in qtwebkit i believe ... 
[16:27] <shadeslayer> along with kdewebkit ... 
[16:27] <jussi> perhaps try rekonq again then? :P
[16:27] <shadeslayer> jussi: bug fixes in general ... plasma is less crashy, we need testers for Project Neon on natty ....
[16:27] <shadeslayer> sure if you feel like it
[16:28] <shadeslayer> btw rekonq 0.7 is out, anyone want to package it?
[16:30] <bambee> kde-packager mailing-list is opened to beginners ?
[16:31] <shadeslayer> bambee: file a bug on bugzilla
[16:31] <shadeslayer> and add that you work on kubuntu packages
[16:34] <bambee> ok...  I have not many packages... but I can ask anyway...
[16:38] <yofel> bambee: you'll need to mention one person that vouches for you - ask R iddell
[16:38] <bambee> yofel: ok
[16:38] <bambee> thanks
[17:38] <shadeslayer> FYI if someone want's to package rekonq 0.7 please contact me first ... 
[17:41] <debfx> shadeslayer: *contact*
[17:49] <shadeslayer> debfx: one sec ... on the phone
[17:53] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=rekonq.git&a=commit&h=aaebac2ce417d7af074f86e8cce0eb44cc611332 >> that has to be reverted
[17:57] <debfx> shadeslayer: ok, any reason it hasn't been committed yet?
[17:58] <shadeslayer> debfx: it's a webkit bug, that's exposed in rekonq
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ( when using cache )
[18:01] <debfx> so upstream won't revert that commit?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> debfx: as of now it's in the 0.7 release
[18:07] <shadeslayer> but for a proper fix it needs to be fixed in webkit
[18:08] <debfx> shadeslayer: is there a bug report about the issue?
[18:08] <shadeslayer> debfx: on rekonq or webkit?
[18:09] <debfx> both
[18:09] <shadeslayer> ah i know of the rekonq bug report, one sec
[18:23] <shadeslayer> debfx: yeah on the phone again ... this will take some time :
[18:48] <shadeslayer> debfx: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269701
[18:49] <stikonas> shadeslayer: I also can reproduce unresonsive google
[18:49] <stikonas> s/unresonsive/unresponsive/
[18:50] <shadeslayer> there's one other
[18:50] <stikonas> and sometimes something wrong happens with tab bar, is this a known issue?
[18:50] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269702
[18:51] <shadeslayer> stikonas: yes, that's fixed iirc
[18:51] <shadeslayer> stikonas: which version do you have?
[18:51] <stikonas> probably RC2, the one that is packaged in Kubuntu natty
[18:51] <stikonas> I have git checkout somewhere, but I haven't installed it
[18:52] <shadeslayer> debfx: ^^
[18:52] <stikonas> 0.6.95+git20110331-0ubuntu1
[18:54] <stikonas> maybe tabbar bug is indeed fixed, I can't reproduce it now, at least not yet
[18:58] <debfx> shadeslayer: thanks
[18:58] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:55] <shadeslayer> OIMG
[19:55] <shadeslayer> OMG
[19:55] <shadeslayer> jussi: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
[19:55] <jussi> :D
[19:57] <bambee> jussi: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
[19:57] <bambee> :)
[19:57] <shadeslayer> jussi: diaspora does not tell me it's your birthday]
[19:57] <jjesse> someone else is on diaspora?
[19:57] <shadeslayer> me
[19:57] <shadeslayer> jjesse: shadeslayer@joindiaspora.com ;)
[19:57] <jjesse> my last item on diaspora is 14 days ago :)
[19:58] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:58] <jjesse> thats how exciting it is :)
[19:58] <shadeslayer> mine is 8 days ago .. :P
[19:59] <shadeslayer> okay .. i'm off to sleep .. night
[19:59] <jjesse> night
[20:02] <shadeslayer> heh .. this is a warning i got when i ran a java program : WARNING: OperatingSystem: Linux
[20:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[20:05] <jussi> jjesse: jussi01 at joindiaspora ;)
[20:06] <bambee> neversfelde: ping, ftbs for kdebidings
[20:06] <neversfelde> bambee: I know
[20:07] <neversfelde> only for i386
[20:07] <bambee> yup
[20:08] <neversfelde> kdegraphics seems to be broken too
[20:15] <bambee> neversfelde: what is broken for kdegraphics ?
[20:16] <bambee> I mean a ftbs too ?
[21:11] <yofel> oh, happy birthday jussi :D
[21:43] <neversfelde> bambee: yes fails to build, but I did not have the time for a closer look
[21:44] <bambee> neversfelde: I understand
[21:58]  * txwikinger will test drive natty kubuntu beta1
[21:58] <txwikinger> ScottK: What should I use on a laptop amd64 or i386?
[22:00] <txwikinger> Guess I get am64 for hyperthreating
[22:08] <txwikinger> Do we have only natty DVDs?
[22:08] <jjesse> for beta 1 i think
[22:09] <txwikinger> Why is that?
[22:10] <stikonas> what is bad with DVDs?
[22:10] <stikonas> more software can be put on them :)
[22:14] <txwikinger> More to download that I do not need
[22:16] <txwikinger> Some places have Internet usage caps
[23:15] <apachelogger> kubotu: you just lost your fancy cloak, you poor thing
[23:16] <apachelogger> kubotu: order birthday package for jussi
[23:16]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[23:16]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to jussi and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday jussi, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy Birthday jussi :D
[23:16] <kubotu> To your health!
[23:16] <apachelogger> kubotu: order birthday package for seaLne
[23:16]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[23:16]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to seaLne and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday seaLne, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[23:16] <kubotu> Happy Birthday seaLne :D
[23:16] <kubotu> To your health!
[23:16] <apachelogger> happy bday!
[23:16] <apachelogger> oh
[23:17] <apachelogger> kubotu: order birthday package for Tscheesy
[23:17]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[23:17]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to Tscheesy and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[23:17] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday Tscheesy, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[23:17] <kubotu> Happy Birthday Tscheesy :D
[23:17] <kubotu> To your health!
[23:17] <apachelogger> happy bday to you too :)
[23:17]  * apachelogger passes out
[23:18] <seaLne> hehe
[23:37] <claydoh_> apachelogger: seems to be having too much fun
[23:37] <apachelogger> actually I need to do some home work :/
[23:37] <apachelogger> kinda difficult after a couple of beers
[23:40]  * claydoh is finding work difficult and hasn't had any beers :(
[23:41] <ScottK> Perhaps a couple of couple of beers is what's needed for motivation then?
[23:42] <claydoh> I don't really drink, but it may be a good reason to start
[23:42] <claydoh> tho i hate beer, and the wine is long gone into some dish I cooked last week
[23:42] <apachelogger> :O
[23:42] <apachelogger> wine -> cooked
[23:43] <apachelogger> W-T-F
[23:43] <apachelogger> you are insane
[23:43] <apachelogger> also a bit mad, mostly insane
[23:43] <apachelogger> ah, not talking about me
[23:43] <claydoh> ScottK: I am having trouble motivating myself , as well as focusing gotta get hold of it and shake things up
[23:43]  * apachelogger got confused
[23:43] <apachelogger> anyone knows anything about design patterns?
[23:43] <claydoh> apachelogger: i use wine for cooking
[23:43] <apachelogger> claydoh: insane'n'mad
[23:44] <claydoh> usually cheap stuff
[23:44] <apachelogger> INM Inc.
[23:44] <claydoh> nay tasty sauces and marinated meats
[23:44] <apachelogger> claydoh: the cheap stuff is the one you get best hangovers from though ^^
[23:44] <ScottK> apachelogger: Very French, but that's somewhat redundant.
[23:44] <apachelogger> lolz
[23:45] <claydoh> ap I haven't had a hangover since the weekemd I stared dating my now wife - 1989 lolz
[23:47]  * claydoh wants his desktop activities in his cube dangitall!!!!
[23:49] <claydoh> actually I nned to blog about something, but that is what I need motivation for
[23:50] <claydoh> perhaps if I blog that kubuntuforums needs to move to a non-windows/non-gratis host
[23:51] <claydoh> someone may get pissed enough to move on  it
[23:52] <apachelogger> claydoh: just copy'n'paste that and post :P
[23:52] <apachelogger> CNP Inc.
[23:52] <claydoh> hah
[23:52] <apachelogger> great company names tonight
[23:52] <claydoh> yeah