[00:00] <MaximLevitsky> BTW, I hope there is an option that enable that behavier
[00:02] <MaximLevitsky> Is it possible not to see scaled window while resizing it?
[00:20] <ahlym> hi
[00:21] <ahlym> Please take alook at www.woondy.com, it is an open source twitter-replacement
[01:20] <teage> i have a wacom device, P&T bamboo. i dont use the touch. I do xsetwacom set ID touch off and it works but, the ID is always changing. on one session it would be say 13 and after shutdown and reboot its something else. i would like to make a script but i cant keep the same ID. why?
[01:22] <teage> not too lively in here ic is it?
[02:26] <navatwo> Hey, how do I restart kwin, it crashed and had to be killed.
[02:26] <navatwo> right now I'm in a tty terminal and I cannot change windows in my GUI environment >.<
[02:29] <navatwo>  /join #kde
[02:29] <navatwo> >.<
[03:15] <claydoh> navatwo: sudo service kdm restart
[03:15] <navatwo> claydoh: that kills everything, its just kwin
[03:15] <navatwo> the command is actually (from a tty) `DISPLAY=:0.0 kwin --replace`
[03:15] <claydoh> navatwo: can you use alt-f2 to bring up krunner?
[03:16] <navatwo> I couldn't that that time
[03:16] <navatwo> I have my kwin restarted
[03:16] <navatwo> kubuntu needs to turn off desktop effects for netbook versions of the distro
[03:16] <navatwo> they run out of RAM then cause the calls to hang and ultimately force one to restart the kdm or kill kwin and restart it
[03:17] <valorie> navatwo: good idea
[03:17] <valorie> please file a bug
[03:17] <navatwo> Now that I've disabled the desktop effects, I hope I wont have issues
[03:17] <navatwo> valorie: whats the launchpad site?
[03:17] <valorie> probably easiest to do it from the help menu
[03:17] <navatwo> Meh, I like launchpad :>
[03:17] <valorie> in any KDE app
[03:18] <navatwo> Ah, thanks :)
[03:18] <valorie> the nice thing about the help menu is that a lot of your info is autofilled for you
[03:18] <navatwo> err what application should I use for the `application` field
[03:19] <navatwo> kde-windows?
[03:19] <valorie> kwin
[03:19] <navatwo> omw
[03:19] <valorie> kde-windows is the project for KDE on Windows
[03:19] <valorie> lol
[03:19] <navatwo> ohh lol
[03:19] <navatwo> >.<
[03:20] <navatwo> Huh..
[03:20] <navatwo> rekonq wouldn't open
[03:26] <valorie> what do you use for IRC?
[03:26] <valorie> Konvi and Quassel both have KDE help menus also
[03:26] <valorie> as does dolphin
[03:30] <navatwo> valorie: I use irssi :)
[03:31] <navatwo> aka konsole :P
[03:31] <navatwo> I just manually filled in the information
[03:32] <navatwo> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269980 valorie did I miss anything?
[03:32] <navatwo> lol
[03:32] <navatwo> ninja'd
[03:37] <valorie> looks good, navatwo
[03:38] <valorie> our kwin people are excellent programmers, and very responsive
[03:45] <navatwo> awesome :)
[03:45] <navatwo> it only became an issue after I updated my kde version, so kubuntu may have already adressed the issue.
[03:46] <navatwo> wait.. no it didn't
[03:46] <navatwo> nvm me
[03:46] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone know why my headphone port might not be working?
[03:46] <Kaleidoscope> Sound card works beautifully, Headphone port doesn't
[03:47] <Kaleidoscope> Do I need like a different driver?
[03:52] <folorn> my question is for anyone quite familair with Jedit the editor program. im needing some refine tuneing on how to get the line numbers up on it so it shows what each line number is . its been a long time since ive used it so if someone could help me out with that specific program. now for question2: ive downloaded gcc and installed it as far as i know but how do i exactly use it to do the compileing im quite new to the programing stu
[03:52] <folorn> ff and could use some help at understanding the concepts anyone got time to go over this with me quick ?? plz help ;)
[03:58] <Kaleidoscope> 235 users, None of them alive....Why even be in the room anyways?
[03:59] <valorie> forlorn, have you looked for a channel where people might be more likely to answer your question?
[03:59] <valorie> I've never heard of jedit
[04:00] <valorie> if you want KDE programming help, you might try #kde-devel
[04:00] <valorie> Kaleidoscope: run alsamixer from console
[04:00] <valorie> and see if that bit is turned off
[04:01] <valorie> and maybe pavucontrol too
[04:01] <valorie> which is a gui to control pulseaudio
[04:03] <Kaleidoscope> Alright, on the alsamixer, headphones are on and turned all the way up
[04:04] <Kaleidoscope> have to install pavu
[04:07] <Kaleidoscope> On pavucontrol, if I set it to the headphones, I get no sound at all
[04:15] <Kaleidoscope> valorie:?
[04:16] <valorie> weird
[04:17] <valorie> I wish I had more help for you, but that's the extent of my knowledge
[04:18] <Kaleidoscope> Alright, Thanks though
[04:53] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone here know anything about audio troubles?
[04:56] <Mithrandir_> folorn: man jedit
[04:56] <Mithrandir_> Kaleidoscope: Have they ever worked?
[04:59] <Kaleidoscope> Nope
[04:59] <Kaleidoscope> They work fine on windows
[05:02] <folorn> just did ive cut and pasted this code and did - gcc skeletonbot.c so im assumeing it compiled it but then i got this after i done that in the terminal - /tmp/ccfJkABm.o: In function `raw':
[05:02] <folorn> skeletonbot.c:(.text+0x88): undefined reference to `va_start'
[05:02] <folorn> skeletonbot.c:(.text+0xbf): undefined reference to `va_end'
[05:02] <folorn> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[05:02] <FloodBotK2> folorn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <windyhu> is there anyone who use kde4.6.1?
[05:42] <Kaleidoscope> Is there a 4.6.1?
[05:42] <Kaleidoscope> I'm on 4.5.1 and I was told it's the newest
[05:42] <windyhu> with the ppa
[05:43] <odio> hey guys,, I am trying to change timestamps in quassel... it doesn reconginze the same time stamp format as xchat apparenlty
[05:43] <odio> and no one on #quassel is answering :(
[05:44] <windyhu> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[05:44] <windyhu> here you will get the 4.6.1
[05:44] <odio> windyhu:  is that for me?
[05:45] <odio> no it isnt  I see :)
[05:45] <windyhu> hehe....
[05:45] <TechZanyCom> hi guys
[05:46] <Manyfold> hello
[05:48] <windyhu> everytime it'll bug when i use the ibus input in knotes,how's that?
[05:48] <Manyfold> i have an externeal hdd connetred via usb . everytime i start up my box and the external hdd is turned on the startup process hangs
[05:49] <Manyfold> when switch off the hdd it resumes
[05:49] <Manyfold> what could went wrong there?
[05:52] <Manyfold> my version is 11.04 and i use kernel  2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP
[05:53] <windyhu> 11.04 is available now?
[05:53] <windyhu> it'll be released on 4.28,isn't it?
[05:54] <Manyfold> ups sorry i meant 10.10
[05:56] <Manyfold> still i want know why startup hangs when the external hdd is switched on and i don't know where to look
[05:58] <genii-around> Manyfold: Is it an eSATA drive or some other like USB or FireWire?
[05:58] <Manyfold> i think it's usb , but where can i look?
[06:01] <genii-around> Manyfold: If the system is hanging when it's turned on, gets tricky because you can't check from in the operating system. If you have it plugged in and turned on when system boots, the BIOS might tell you if you go in there. Or if you can see how many connectors are on the cable that connects it to computer. Like 4 contact points and flat connector is USB
[06:02] <Manyfold> the strange thing is it resumes when i switch off the drive
[06:03] <Manyfold> i thng it hangs during kernel initialization
[06:03] <Manyfold> at least thats what appears on the monitor
[06:04] <Manyfold> [    0.023665] ftrace: converting mcount calls to 0f 1f 44 00 00
[06:04] <Manyfold> [    0.024465] ftrace: allocating 22688 entries in 89 pages
[06:05] <Manyfold> this appears on the monitor when it hangs
[06:05] <genii-around> Manyfold: This can happen for different reasons, usually hardware related. eg: If it's USB and in BIOS booting to USB device is set higher than booting to first internal hard drive. Also if is an eSATA then sometimes can usurp the spot of first hard drive in boot order
[06:06] <Manyfold> genii-around: i look and there are 4 contact points
[06:06] <genii-around> So is USB
[06:09] <genii-around> Manyfold: I would suggest to reboot with external drive powered on, go into your bios and check what I mentioned earlier. eg: That your internal drive which normally boots is set to #1 and USB or external drive boot further down.
[06:09] <Manyfold> genii-around: ok i will do and report back
[06:09]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[06:14] <ubuntu> hola
[06:15] <ubuntu_> jlaa
[06:15] <ubuntu> hoolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:16] <ubuntu> vamoss
[06:16] <genii-around> !es
[06:17] <ubuntu> me lees
[06:18] <ubuntu> marlonnn
[06:18] <ubuntu_> seee
[06:18] <ubuntu_> vamos a esa sala.. ya nos correindo de aki.. te espero alla...!!
[06:19] <Manyfold> now everything works fine thank you genii-around
[06:19] <ubuntu> en cual salar
[06:19] <genii-around> Manyfold: Ah, good
[06:19] <ubuntu_> aalo...¿¿   ama estas ??
[06:19] <ubuntu> ssi
[06:19] <ubuntu> a cualll sala
[06:19] <ubuntu> ??
[06:20] <ubuntu> sii
[06:20] <ubuntu_> ""/join #ubuntu-es"""
[06:20] <Manyfold> genii-around: is there a possibility to remove unneeded modules from the kernel without voiding support?
[06:20] <ubuntu_> aa esa sin comillas..
[06:20] <Manyfold> boot up takes to long for me
[06:21] <genii-around> ubuntu_: eg: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:21] <ubuntu> marloonnnnnnnnnnnnn
[06:21] <ubuntu_> dime
[06:21] <ubuntu> a cual salla?
[06:21] <ubuntu_> pon esto alli.. sin comillas..
[06:21] <genii-around> Manyfold: Will not void support :)
[06:21] <ubuntu_> "/join #ubuntu-es"
[06:22] <Manyfold> so i could compile my own kernel?
[06:23] <valorie> you can compile your own kernel
[06:23] <ubuntu_> ama  u go ?
[06:23] <valorie> but that seems a bit extreme
[06:23] <genii-around> ubuntu_: sin citas /join #ubuntu-es
[06:23] <valorie> you could get an SSD instead
[06:23] <valorie> :-)
[06:23] <Manyfold> SSD?
[06:24] <valorie> solid state drive
[06:24] <ubuntu> marloon
[06:25] <ubuntu> marlonnnnnn
[06:25] <valorie> I'm thinking about getting one for this laptop -- just put the distro on it
[06:25] <valorie> use the main drive for /home
[06:25] <valorie> ubuntu: stop it
[06:26] <valorie> thanks, Tm_T
[06:26] <valorie> spanish doesn't bother me, but racket in a support chan does
[06:27] <genii-around> Manyfold: custom compiled kernel is not supported. But you can add/remove kernel drivers by for instance adding them to /etc/modules for after initial boot, or adding them to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. For removing them, add the module name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[06:28] <Manyfold> genii-around: thanks for the info . i will do a little experimentation
[06:30] <genii-around> Manyfold: You're welcome
[06:31] <Daskreech> as an aside why doesn't !es point to #kubuntu-es ?
[06:31] <genii-around> Daskreech:  Not enough users, I believe
[06:32] <Daskreech> What counts as enough users?
[06:32] <genii-around> No idea :)
[06:48] <Daskreech> Who would?
[06:50] <genii-around> Maybe #freenode
[06:51] <Manyfold> !de
[06:51] <Daskreech> genii-around: isn't it an Ubuntu choice?
[06:52] <genii-around> Daskreech: Dunno :(
[06:54] <valorie> chans that are too small don't really work
[06:55] <Daskreech> agreed but what is big enough?
[06:55] <genii-around> I think thats why channels like #kubuntu+1 for instance just forward to #ubuntu+1
[06:57] <valorie> I'm guess that this would be a question for the IRC Council
[06:57] <valorie> I know that they delete unused channels, and set up forwards
[06:58] <valorie> i'm sure part of it is "what are people asking for"
[06:58] <valorie> as well as "what causes us the most trouble"
[06:59] <genii-around> #defocus ? ;-)
[06:59] <valorie> haha
[07:00] <valorie> IRC Council is for the *buntu namespace though
[07:00] <valorie> I don't think they touch that with .... any length pole available
[07:24] <Daskreech> I wonder if Kubuntu can be it's own project in GSoC
[07:25] <erinaceus> Hi, i have a rather grave problem with Kubuntu, every time i uses the interface gets all chopped up after a couple of minutes, any idea what the cause might be? Example: http://img576.imageshack.us/i/snapshot2j.png/
[07:25] <erinaceus> *uses = use it
[07:29] <erinaceus> anyone?
[07:32] <valorie> yikes, that looks bad
[07:33] <valorie> I had a similar problem, let me find how to tell you what to try
[07:33] <valorie> for starters, have you tried jockey-kde to see if there are better drivers for your graphics card?
[07:34] <erinaceus> Nope
[07:34] <erinaceus> I thought it was just a problem with the current theme
[07:34] <valorie> you do that from the console or kicker
[07:35] <erinaceus> Working on it
[07:41] <erinaceus> Okay, i installed the recommended drivers and gonna reboot
[07:41] <valorie> good luck!
[07:46] <erinaceus> so far so good ... I'll let it run for a bit and then check back here
[07:47] <valorie> great! the other thing you can try is systemsettings > Configure desktop effects > Advanced
[07:47] <valorie> right on top, you can change between XRender and OpenGL
[07:48] <keithzg> XRender goes sloooowwwww on most people's systems, though.
[07:48] <erinaceus> I shut them off for now, hopeing it would be that
[07:48] <valorie> xrender seems to work better for me
[07:49] <erinaceus> I#d rather have a slow system, on which i can read text than a fast one ;)
[07:49] <keithzg> heh
[07:49] <keithzg> There's also the question of graphics system used by Qt.
[07:50] <keithzg> I know I was getting corruption on my old iMac until I switched to Raster.
[07:50] <erinaceus> Well, I'm still hopeing it were the missing drivers
[07:51] <keithzg> What graphics card do you have?
[07:51] <erinaceus> Oh boy
[07:51] <erinaceus> GTS 500?
[07:51] <erinaceus> Lemme check
[07:51] <FloodBotK2> erinaceus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:51] <valorie> ignore the helpful bot
[07:51] <valorie> FloodBotK2: not helpful
[07:52] <erinaceus> Geforce 8800 GTX
[07:52] <keithzg> Ahh, that's new enough that Nouveau doesn't fully support it (NVIDIA doesn't release documentation, people have to figure it out the hard way)
[07:52] <keithzg> so that seems quite likely to have been the problem.
[07:52] <erinaceus> @keithzg, I was wrong with my first guess, it was 8800 GTX
[07:53] <keithzg> oh...hmm.
[09:10] <rulyone> Hi guys, does anyone knows a good temperature sensor for kubuntu 10.10? (hopefully with a GUI)
[09:10] <rulyone> so I don't have to run 'sensors' everytime I want to check my temp
[09:10] <rulyone> ;P
[09:12] <valorie> there are a couple of different widgets
[09:12] <valorie> you can put them in the taskbar or on a desktop
[09:16] <MaximLevitsky1> Networkmanager plasma applet doesn't see a system connection
[09:16] <MaximLevitsky1> Any way to fix?
[10:49] <homer80> I'm not be able to change the theme, I can download it, but it doens't show on the list and I cannot set it up
[10:56] <a1234567890> i am national officer qualification ubuntu hahaha...   bubu   huhu
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[11:31] <sonja> hello (:
[11:32]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[11:34] <sonja> this is so cool : D...
[11:35]  * Peace- wants coffe
[11:35] <genii-around> sonja: Do you have some support question regarding your Kubuntu?
[11:35]  * Peace- asks to genii-around
[11:35] <Peace-> xD
[11:36]  * genii-around slides Peace- a large, strong mug of Columbian coffee
[12:12] <jacobw> how do you use konqueror on 10.10?
[12:13] <steveire_> Hi. When I plug a projector into my laptop it doesn't work. How do I go about solving that?
[12:13] <genii-around> !crosspost | steveire_
[12:14] <steveire_> The KDE monitor display thingy doesn't show the external display device. It shows only my laptop screen
[12:15] <steveire_> This worked before, but I don't know if it's kernal dependant or X dependant
[12:16] <steveire_> Even the usually bullet proof technique of boot with it connected didn't work.
[12:19] <alexanderestin> what can i do incase i need help
[12:44] <inj3ct0r> hi to all
[12:45] <inj3ct0r> i want to have voice chat with my friend and i do not wantt to use exe files is there any way to do this?  what should i do?
[12:48] <inj3ct0r> is there any body that can help me?
[12:50] <Peace-> inj3ct0r: skype?
[12:50] <inj3ct0r> but it did not work
[12:51] <Peace-> google talks ?
[12:51] <inj3ct0r> i told i do not want to use exe file
[12:55] <Peace-> inj3ct0r: google talks is even for linux.
[12:55] <Peace-> .
[12:55] <Peace-> ,
[12:55] <Peace-> and it's not exe.
[12:56] <skramer_> inj3ct0r: http://www.google.com/talk/
[12:56] <skramer_> inj3ct0r: you just have to install the talk plugin into your web browser
[12:57] <inj3ct0r>  but i do not want to do this
[13:18] <inj3ct0r> i have a problem with my rezolution i fixed it but when i reboot i see that changes not seved what i should do? who can help?
[13:26] <inj3ct0r> i have a problem with my rezolution i fixed it but when i reboot i see that changes not seved what i should do? who can help?
[13:37] <Peace-> inj3ct0r: language?
[13:37] <Peace-> where are you from ?
[13:38] <phoenix__> hello everyone
[13:39] <Peace-> !iran | inj3ct0r
[13:39] <Peace-> !persian | inj3ct0r
[13:39] <Peace-> omg
[13:40] <phoenix__> how to enable vdpau. The flash videos are not getting hardware acceleration. my GPU is Nvidia 9400 GT . I have installed the proprietary driver.
[13:42] <Peace-> !english
[13:47] <phoenix__> how to enable vdpau. The flash videos are not getting hardware acceleration. my GPU is Nvidia 9400 GT . I have installed the proprietary driver.
[13:50] <Peace-> phoenix__: well one should install the driver
[13:50] <Peace-> phoenix__: then should work
[13:50] <Peace-> if noto
[13:50] <Peace-> there is a problem with the driver
[13:50] <Peace-> i guess here is a problem with the driver
[13:50] <Peace-> .
[13:51] <Peace-> but i am not pretty sure
[13:52] <phoenix__> Peace-: i used jockey to install the driver, will that go wrong?
[13:53] <Peace-> nope it's the driver
[13:53] <phoenix__> how can i check if vdpau is working or not
[13:53] <Peace-> driver on the repository doesn't work well , but i guess the same would be happend if you downloaded form the nvida website
[13:54] <Peace-> *from
[13:55] <Peace-> nvidia
[13:55] <phoenix__> what is the alternative?
[13:56] <Peace-> i am not expert of nvidia sorry
[13:57] <Peace-> !nvidia
[13:57] <pipo> hello1
[13:58] <pipo> i never used kde: i tried it in a livecd and i m amazed. but i performed (by mistake) a key binding
[13:58] <pipo> in order to switch desktops (didn t know it was ctrl Fx)
[13:59] <pipo> and in my numerous tries, a nice menu appeared in the screen, in the middle. A search bar, System, Internet, Multimedia, etc. Big nice icons like a menu
[13:59] <pipo> my question: how to get it back?
[14:00] <Peace-> pipo: systemsettings , top -right , filter bar : search shortcuts
[14:00] <pipo> it  snot a single widget; it a series of menu and i can edit then which ones will be present by ticking them on the configuration fie
[14:00] <pipo> Peace-, is it a shortcut?
[14:01] <pipo> it  s more like a panel in the middle of nowhere;   Bokmarks   Internet   Multimedia  Utilities; etc
[14:04] <Peace-> pipo: you mean right button on the screen [14:05] <pipo> Peace-, ... i don t know!   if i hit right button on screen, there s nothing that appears: only Add Widget, Add Panel,... and some others; but i don t remember a Menu entry
[14:06] <Peace-> pipo: ok see this http://wstaw.org/m/2011/04/03/plasma_howto-throw-ball.gif
[14:07] <pipo> Peace-, ok so you mean i will have by this way a Menu entry
[14:07] <Peace-> pipo: no
[14:08] <Peace-> pipo: right button on the desktop
[14:08] <Peace-> desktop settings
[14:08] <Peace-> on the left there is the icon of mouse
[14:08] <Peace-> set the click as you want laucher
[14:08] <Peace-> and whater ver youwant
[14:08] <pipo> ok ok ok                  but will then appear the icons in the middle of the screen?
[14:16] <inj3ct0r> i have a problem with my rezolution who can help me?
[14:33] <phoenix__> inj3ct0r: hi
[14:34] <phoenix__> inj3ct0r: what is the problem
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:22] <quasselgentoo> Peace-: still there?
[15:22] <Peace-> quasselgentoo: yes
[15:22] <quasselgentoo> i m still trying to get those nice widgets/menu in the screen
[15:22] <quasselgentoo> you know, a search bar and when you click an icon, they get rearranged to let you browse them
[15:23] <quasselgentoo> i don t know how to do it
[15:23] <quasselgentoo> neither search for it as i can t describe ti
[15:26] <Peace-> mm
[15:27] <quasselgentoo> got it!
[15:27] <quasselgentoo> it s the search and launch applet!
[15:27] <quasselgentoo> search and launch layout!
[15:27] <Peace-> ahhh you meant that
[15:27] <Peace-> omg
[16:02] <malkavian> hi, folks
[16:03] <malkavian> I've just installed kubuntu and there is one problem.
[16:03] <jussi> malkavian: tell us :)
[16:04] <malkavian> I'm using choqok to access to my twitter accound, and when system starts it tells that can't get access to the twitter API
[16:05] <Islington> malkavian: did you authorize choqok on the twitter site?
[16:05] <malkavian> I understand that it is for choqok trying to get access befor internet connection starts up.
[16:05] <malkavian> Islington: yes :)
[16:07] <malkavian> I think that the correct question would be if there is any opportunity to make choqok not to connect to the server before connection will be set up.
[16:08] <malkavian> I'm using wireless connection.
[16:08] <Islington> is choqok autostarting?
[16:09] <malkavian> Islington: yes. I just don't close it before exit, so it starts everytime I log in.
[16:11] <Islington> malkavian: I was think maybe you could exclude choqok from the session startup, then launch it fresh using a autostart command
[16:11] <Islington> *thinking
[16:12] <malkavian> Islington: thank you for advice! I'll try it :)
[16:12] <Islington> malkavian: both the settings are in systemsettings> search for autostart :)
[16:13] <malkavian> Islington: thank you one more time :)
[16:25] <malkavian> Islington: I've done what you've said and this helps! :)
[16:25] <francis> yes
[16:28] <Islington> malkavian: awesome!
[16:30] <malkavian> Islington: also I've noticed that there is an opportunity to do any script when KDE starts with it's autorun.  So if there will be such occasions in future I can try to use bash-scripts to solve them :)
[16:31] <Islington> malkavian: yeah its really powerful in that regard
[16:38] <kheirddine> hi
[16:38] <kheirddine> sudo get
[16:39] <n8w> hey
[16:39] <kheirddine> i have a probleme plz help me
[16:39] <n8w> ..
[16:39] <kheirddine> wireless
[16:39] <JohnHeikkila> @kheirddine Yes?
[16:40] <JohnHeikkila> !ask
[16:40] <n8w> anyone else experiencing a choppy behavior while resizing windows in kde 4.6.1?
[16:40] <kheirddine> yep
[16:40] <JohnHeikkila> So, what's your problem :)
[16:41] <n8w> JohnHeikkila:  talkin to me?
[16:41] <kheirddine> I can not connect through wifi
[16:41] <JohnHeikkila> Well, yes, why not take two cases at once ;)
[16:42] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: Is the wireless a protected network? n8w: Which kubuntu version are you using?
[16:42] <n8w> JohnHeikkila:  :)) 10.10,kde 4.6.1,nvidia 260.19.06
[16:42] <kheirddine> no is not protected and i use kubuntu 10.10
[16:43] <JohnHeikkila> Ookayy, n8w wait a min
[16:43] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: What's your computer
[16:43] <JohnHeikkila> 's model?
[16:44] <kheirddine> toshiba Satellite-C650
[16:44] <kheirddine> cpu i3
[16:44] <JohnHeikkila> Okay, thanks
[16:44] <JohnHeikkila> n8w: You might find this forum topic useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590040
[16:45] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: kheirddine: Is your kubuntu/cpu 64-bit?
[16:46] <kheirddine> yep
[16:46] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: Okay, good
[16:46] <n8w> JohnHeikkila:  hmm nope,not rly...ive been through a lot of forums...im not lookin for any alternative to kde,my comp is not slow etc...i wanna get rid of the choppy stuff...
[16:47] <JohnHeikkila> n8w: Yeah, I understand that. You tried reducing all the decorations from the windows?
[16:47] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: Do you know what your laptop's wireless' model is?
[16:48] <n8w> JohnHeikkila:  ye well sort of;)i wanna keep the effects on;)...the thing is that it started like 3 weeks ago...so it has not been like this ever since
[16:49] <JohnHeikkila> n8w: Ohh. Are you experiencing any other performance downgrades?
[16:50] <n8w> JohnHeikkila:  nope not rly, as far as i can say...well perhaps a bit in the overall sys performance(nothin that i would worry about)
[16:50] <JohnHeikkila> n8w: Same here :o)
[16:51] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: Could you open terminal/console and type "sudo lshw"
[16:51] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: Then, go to pastebin.com, paste all the info there and give us the link to the paste?
[16:51] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: You can copy information from the console with CTRL+SHIFT+C
[16:52] <JohnHeikkila> n8w: I think you should even _try_ reducing all the decoration):
[16:52] <kheirddine_> @jhonHeikkila command not found
[16:53] <n8w> JohnHeikkila:  ye,that would perhaps b the way...i mean kde 4.6.1 is kinda weird in general:/
[16:53] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: That is weard..Did you do "lshw"?
[16:53] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: of course, without the " signs
[16:53] <kheirddine_> yeah
[16:53] <JohnHeikkila> n8w: Agreed. I liked the earlier versions and gnome
[16:53] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: So..it just says Command not found?
[16:54] <kheirddine_> yes
[16:54] <JohnHeikkila> kheirddine: Mate, would you mind taking me a screenshot by pressing PrtSc (print screen) and then posting the image to imgjoe.com?
[16:54] <kheirddine_> ok 2sec
[16:56] <c2tarun> my additional driver is neither showing my wifi device nor my graphics driver :( why so?
[16:56] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: What's your PC's model?
[16:57] <c2tarun> dell-inspiron
[16:57] <c2tarun> JohnHeikkila: it was working earlier, I formatted and reinstalled kubuntu maverick and now facing the problem :(
[16:57] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: Could you clarify with your PC's model number?
[16:57] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: Yeah, maverick brings a lot of trouble
[16:58] <c2tarun> dell inspiron N4010
[16:58] <c2tarun> JohnHeikkila: ^
[16:58] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: Okay, thanks
[16:58] <c2tarun> JohnHeikkila: how can I fix it?
[16:59] <arpan> c2tarun: are you running natty or maverick?
[16:59] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: Have you installed the drivers/do you need to install some drivers? if so, you can check out this website: http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/articles/install-dell-inspiron-n4010-network-drivers-on-ubuntu-10-10.html
[16:59] <c2tarun> arpan: maverick
[16:59] <arpan> oh ok
[17:00] <JohnHeikkila> arpan: Wasn't there a separate channel for maverick or was it just beta in general?
[17:00] <arpan> I was asking becoz in beta 1 of natty there is a bug which makes wifi unusable for some wifi cards.
[17:01] <arpan> JohnHeikkila: I'm not sure about having a separate channel for maverick but I guess this is the channel to ask for help.
[17:01] <JohnHeikkila> arpan: Yup
[17:02] <c2tarun> JohnHeikkila: arpan: it was working fine earlier :( why problem now?
[17:02] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: Did you install anything, i mean ANYTHING in the mean time?
[17:02] <c2tarun> JohnHeikkila: just updated once.
[17:02] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: And no other installs?
[17:02] <c2tarun> JohnHeikkila: nope
[17:03] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: But your internet is working?
[17:03] <c2tarun> JohnHeikkila: yup,
[17:03] <JohnHeikkila> Okay. Just checking.
[17:03] <arpan> c2tarun: were u using and it got disconnected? and then u can't connect anymore?
[17:03] <JohnHeikkila> arpan: He reinstalled maverick
[17:04] <arpan> JohnHeikkila: Oh, thanks!!
[17:05] <arpan> I also get my wifi disconnected while using it when away from the router, in maverick.
[17:07] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: A stupid question now, but why, exactly, do you need to see the drivers in Hardware Drivers?
[17:07] <JohnHeikkila> c2tarun: I mean if they're working alright
[17:13] <arpan> c2tarun: try lspci -v  in terminal and look for your wireless device. Especially look for the kernel module of your wifi device in output.
[17:15] <JohnHeikkila> Be right back, guys. Off to eat pancake!
[17:15]  * JohnHeikkila noms
[17:29] <quasselgentoo> guys, do y ou know how can i easily switch the desktop layouts?  i am now using the Search and Launch layout, but i d like to go back to the initial one.
[17:30] <quasselgentoo> you know, Journal layout, Search and Launch layout, etc...
[17:38] <moke> hi, do others have a install issue flag on some package during install natty beta into a vbox vm?
[17:38] <moke> or is it just my shakey arch vbox installation playing up :p
[17:40] <JohnHeikkila> Malina: Which package?
[17:41] <Malina> JohnHeikkila:  I wa sjust looking in syslog now
[17:41] <Malina> but can't seem to find it
[17:41] <Malina> it happened with both ubuntu and jkubuntu natty
[17:43] <Malina> I think it might be vbox whic his unstable, but the thing is I wish to wipe the disk and put the beta on, but hmm, I'll just give it a try, if it fails, I will in worst case build up a quick solutionat a partition at end of disk
[17:43] <Malina> it is probably just the virtual and since I can't find the package, this is just shooting in the dark. IF it happens during physical disk, I will be back , hunt it down and file a bug.
[17:44] <Malina> but it wouldn't be beta if this normally hapens so I thnk it must be some module missing in the vbox
[17:46] <JohnHeikkila> Okay.
[17:46] <JohnHeikkila> Sorry, but vbox ain't my specialty so I won't be able to help :P
[17:49] <m477> #elektronika
[18:11] <mikehh> hmmn, the close tab button in konsole is not activated ( Kubuntu 11.04 amd64) - new tab works just fine
[18:13] <cato37> are there any good scriptwriting toolss (scriptwriting as in writing tv, movie, and theatre scripts) in kubuntu? i have a hard time finding them because words like plotting, and scripts are technical terms also used in computing.
[18:14] <S74rk7> anyone know if my files are gone or I'd be lucky to find them in a tmp forlder somewhere... I was copying to video files to my ext usb hdd.... the cable is a bit temperamental... around half way through the copy ... I tapped my harddrive by accident with my coffee cup but was enough to drop the connection  of my hdd.... it immediatly connected back up but now I can only see one file.... which is partial (corrupt now) and
[18:14] <S74rk7> the other has disappeared...
[18:24] <castellino> hi
[18:25] <castellino> i notice that since i have installed kubuntu on my laptop my battery get low quickly, why?
[18:27] <castellino> hi!i notice that since i have installed kubuntu on my laptop my battery get low quickly, why
[18:30] <castellino> nobody to help me?
[18:36] <Daskreech> castellino: you can probably track what is eating the battery
[18:36] <Daskreech> look into powertop
[18:37] <castellino> powertop?
[18:41] <castellino> Daskreech: were?
[18:48] <amichair> what's a good app for ripping my cds to mp3?
[18:48] <castellino> dvdrip
[18:51] <amichair> castellino: I'll look into it, thanks!
[18:51] <amichair> it sure has a lot of dependencies
[18:57] <castellino> amichair: also lemonrip
[18:57] <daniel3> yay
[18:57] <daniel3> finally got kubuntu installed on my netbook
[18:57] <daniel3> Now gotta figure out how to get the touchscreen working...
[18:58] <areichman> amichair: amarok can do it
[19:01] <Peace-> amichair: you can use k3b too
[19:01] <amichair> wow, so much choice :-)
[19:02] <castellino> how can i write my progams exactly in c or c++ using anjuta
[19:02] <castellino> ?
[19:03] <Peace-> amichair: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/04/03/plasma-desktopbC1475.jpg
[19:04] <Daskreech> castellino: Yes powertop. Intel tool that details how much of the battery and CPU usage have gone to various parts of the system
[19:04] <Daskreech> amichair: press alt+F2 and type audiocd:/
[19:05] <castellino> ok!
[19:05] <Daskreech> You will have different folders for different filetypes. Ogg vorbis Flac MP3 etc
[19:05] <Daskreech> Just copy the MP3 folder and you have ripped your CD
[19:05] <Daskreech> castellino: what do you mean by Exactly?
[19:07] <kalib> Hi people, since my last update (around one week ago) my flash plugin stoped working.
[19:07] <kalib> Anyone has any idea?
[19:08] <castellino> Daskreech: because there are some invocation that we must use in anjuta which are proper to it (anjuta)
[19:08] <Daskreech> Ah ok not sure then :) not used anjuta
[19:08] <Daskreech> kalib: Reinstall?
[19:08] <kalib> I'll try it now.. wait a second
[19:11] <castellino> Daskreech: what else can i use instead of anjuta which came with my ultimate edition?
[19:12] <kalib> Daskreech, already installed.. I did unnintall it and now installed again... using kpackagekit...
[19:12] <kalib> then restarted my chromium..
[19:12] <kalib> and it says that is not working..
[19:12] <kalib> for example... on youtube..
[19:12] <Daskreech> castellino: Just about anything you like
[19:12] <kalib> it says that I need to update my flash..
[19:12] <Daskreech> Kate might be a good base line it's not an IDE but it's pretty good
[19:13] <kalib> and when I do type about:plugins
[19:13] <kalib> I can't see flash
[19:13] <castellino> Daskreech: like?
[19:13] <Daskreech> kalib: try apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[19:13] <Daskreech> close your browsers before
[19:13] <kalib> ok
[19:14] <Daskreech> castellino: umm Kdevelop? Eclipse?
[19:14] <Daskreech> !ide
[19:14] <Daskreech> ^^^6
[19:14] <kalib> Daskreech, ok.. done..
[19:14] <kalib> and now..
[19:14] <kalib> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[19:15] <Daskreech> yes
[19:15] <kalib> ok
[19:15] <Daskreech> should pull the new version (in theory)
[19:16] <castellino> Daskreech: exactly! i dont know how to proceed with qt creator
[19:16] <kalib> Daskreech, done..
[19:16] <kalib> still not working..
[19:16] <kalib> when I do open my browser..
[19:16] <kalib> I can't see flash on my "about:plugins"
[19:16] <Daskreech> kalib: do you have flash noted in about:plugins ?
[19:16] <kalib> no
[19:16] <Daskreech> that's not good
[19:16] <kalib> Any idea?
[19:17] <Daskreech> try getting flash from adobe and installing it manually then
[19:17] <kalib> just a minute..
[19:17] <Daskreech> castellino: What don't you know?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> kalib, the new version is called  , flashplugin-installer , if your on maverick
[19:17] <castellino> how to start and where
[19:18] <kalib> BluesKaj, Kubuntu 10.10
[19:18] <kalib> let me try to install flashplugin-installer
[19:19] <BluesKaj> kalib, the sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-installer
[19:19] <BluesKaj> the=then
[19:19] <kalib> with aptitude search flash
[19:19] <kalib> I can see that I have both installed..
[19:19] <kalib> flashplugin-nonfree
[19:19] <kalib> and flashplugin-installer
[19:20] <kalib> should I keep just the -installer?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> kalib , then remove nonfree
[19:20] <kalib> ok..
[19:22] <kalib> BluesKaj, worked.. had to remove flashplugin-nonfree and re-install flashplugin-installer
[19:22] <kalib> thanks BluesKaj and Daskreech
[19:23] <kalib> g2g now
[19:23] <BluesKaj> kalib, np
[19:23] <Daskreech> bye
[19:23] <Daskreech> !Info flashplugin-nonfree
[19:23] <kalib> ;]
[19:23] <BluesKaj> !flash
[19:23]  * Daskreech kicks ubottu
[19:24] <Daskreech> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[19:24] <Daskreech> Are you really that syntactic
[19:24] <Daskreech> !info flashplugin-installer
[19:24] <Daskreech> ok
[19:24] <kalib> ;]
[19:25] <castellino> !command
[19:34]  * BluesKaj curses moto4lin , crappy driver/gui that doesn't work
[20:02] <BentFranklin> Where would I look for lists of known bugs in keyboard auto-repeat in Lucid?
[20:06] <Snowhog> BentFranklin: Are you sure you have a problem? Have you checked that Accessibility keyboard options (Sticky Keys) didn't get set?
[20:08]  * BluesKaj still curses moto4lin , crappy driver/gui
[20:09] <BentFranklin> There are two problems.  1: Keyboard repeat setting falls off after some time and I have to reset it.  2. Strangeness with ( and ) chars.  Sometimes they don't get through and other times they act as if I am holding them down but I onloy pressed them once.  (Tried swapping keyboards.)
[20:10] <BentFranklin> Sticky is not set.
[20:17] <sershi87> dermo
[20:17] <sershi87> как дела
[20:20] <fenix0> is ktorrent's move data function faster than copy/paste or I'm crazy?
[20:25] <Daskreech> !ru
[20:26] <Daskreech> fenix0: move is always faster than copy since it doesn't actually move anything
[20:30] <fenix0> but ktorrent is some 3 times faster than copy/paste or move using dolphin...
[20:31] <fenix0> from a hdd to another
[20:39] <serialhex> ok, so i have incredible dire problem of incredible horribleness!!!  (ok, maybe its not _that_ bad, but it's quite annoying)
[20:39] <serialhex> ...and maybe no one is here to help me with said problem?? :P
[20:39]  * genii-around sips coffee and awaits more specific information on said problem
[20:40] <serialhex> :P
[20:40] <serialhex> ok, so every 15 mins or so - when i'm not doing anything - my monitors go into powersave mode.  this dosnt happen in any other OS and i've turned off every powersave function i can find...
[20:41] <serialhex> i know, i know "why is this dire?" you might ask... well my speakers are part of my TV/Monitor & that means my music stops :(
[20:43] <fenix0> have you tried the monitor's power save function?
[20:43] <serialhex> so, what on earth do i have to kill so i dont have to worry about that??
[20:43] <serialhex> like i said, it dosnt happen in any other OS... windows, opensuse, slackware, nothing... only kubuntu
[20:44] <serialhex> and i'm runing a dual-monitor setup and both go blank
[20:45] <fenix0> I'm using a laptop so maybe it's different, but are you sure you are changing the options of the right profile?
[20:46] <genii-around> xset -dpms
[20:47] <serialhex> i've killed all the profiles except performance & i've got that set to "always on & drain the grid like it's water, and while i'm at it lets burn some rainforests just because we can" mode
[20:47] <serialhex> genii-around: whats that do??
[20:47] <genii-around> serialhex: Turns off the monitors powersave featuresd
[20:49] <serialhex> ok, just ran it in konsole... gave me no info, but i assume it's not supposed to
[20:49] <genii-around> Right
[20:50] <serialhex> i was thinking of doing something like this: http://xkcd.com/196/  but idk...
[20:51]  * serialhex looks for something to do for 15mins to test genii-around's command
[20:51] <genii-around> serialhex: If you just do: xset -q    it tells you stuff like how screen blanking in screensaver is set, if DPMS is on or off, etc
[20:54] <serialhex> ok... i noticed this:
[20:54] <serialhex> Screen Saver:
[20:54] <serialhex>   prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
[20:54] <serialhex>   timeout:  0    cycle:  600
[20:54] <FloodBotK2> serialhex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <serialhex> ahh... sorry floodbot :P
[20:55] <serialhex> i also turned off KDE's screensaver to make sure it wasnt that, and i still have that
[20:59] <genii-around> serialhex: The -s switch allows also configuration of the scrensaver from there. Maybe check the manpage of xset for details of usage
[20:59] <serialhex> genii-around: thanks
[21:00]  * serialhex is toying around with that now
[21:04]  * serialhex thinks it's set up right
[21:05] <genii-around> serialhex: You can make it permanent by making a file called .Xsession in your home directory with the proper xset commands in there
[21:05] <serialhex> genii-around: thanks for the help... do these changes stick between reboots?  or am i going to have to re-set them each time i reboot?
[21:05] <serialhex> genii-around: ahh... sweet!
[21:05] <genii-around> :)
[21:06]  * serialhex thinks genii-around is a mind-reader
[21:09] <serialhex> genii-around: kind of stupid Q: # is a comment line right? (i'm starting from scratch & i want to know WTF i did later)
[21:12] <genii-around> serialhex: Yes, the convention is usually # means comment. Except for special case like #!/bin/bash which means to use bash to run the file this line is in
[21:12] <DarthFrog> serialhex:  # is frequently used to comment out a line but not always.  In a shell script, it serves a different purpose on the first line.
[21:13] <DarthFrog> A shell script starts with a shebang (#!).
[21:13] <serialhex> genii-around: ok, just checking... i didnt want to crash X next time i booted it because it didnt understand: # turns off screen saver completely!!!
[21:13] <serialhex> DarthFrog: thanks (though i knew that :P )
[21:14] <DarthFrog> serialhex:  A wise man consents to be taught what he already knows. :-)
[21:15]  * serialhex is glad this will never happen to me now: http://xkcd.com/196/
[21:15]  * DarthFrog wishes that he knows what he doestn't know he doesn't know. :-)
[21:15] <serialhex> DarthFrog: indeed!  tho i figured i'd ask the Q to make sure bad thjings didnt happen
[21:15]  * serialhex agrees with DarthFrog
[21:21] <elkng> I have kubuntu-CD and ubuntu-DVD, and I want to use KDE, can I install kubuntu from kubuntu-CD and then install other packages from ubuntu-DVD, is it harmless?
[21:22] <genii-around> elkng: so long as they are the same dist number should be fine
[21:24] <elkng> genii-around: they both 10.10
[21:24] <genii-around> elkng: No worries then.
[21:27] <mischasworld> hi there any mesa experts here, im trying to get my radeon hd 4200 to work under natty, glxinfo says direct rendering: yes glxgears just crashes
[21:30] <genii-around> !natty
[22:20] <Daskreech> genii-around: technically #! is a comment as well
[22:20] <genii-around> Daskreech: Yes, i suppose. Then the shell just parses it
[22:22] <Daskreech> it does make a magic number though
[22:37] <rulyone> Hi everyone. Does someone here knows how to read the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/phc_default_vids values?
[22:37] <rulyone> I know those are VIDs
[22:37] <rulyone> but dont know how to read them
[22:37] <rulyone> mine says 43 35 27 19
[22:37] <rulyone> the first digit what is it?
[22:37] <rulyone> or the second?
[22:37] <rulyone> third? etc
[22:51] <luis_> kind of lost here
[22:52] <genii-around> luis_: If you have some question concerning your Kubuntu, just openly ask your question, and someone will likely offer an answer.
[22:53] <luis_> i´m quite new to linux
[22:53] <luis_> lot´s of questions...
[22:54] <luis_> i´m still discovering it
[23:41] <S74rk7> hey everyone!
[23:41] <S74rk7> anyone still alive in here?  :)
[23:41]  * genii-around sips
[23:42] <S74rk7> hey genii! just us... everyone sleeping ?