[14:39] <fta> wgrant, yt?
[14:40] <fta> wgrant, did something happen with the ppa stats around Feb 10?
[14:50] <Lockal> There is a small problem with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739812/comments/5
[14:50] <Lockal> When I log in I see "Mark Shuttleworth wrote on 2011-04-01"
[14:50] <Lockal> When I log out I see "Mark Shuttleworth wrote on 2011-03-31"
[14:50] <Lockal> It this a bug or a feature?
[14:50] <wgrant> fta: Not that I know of. What do you see?
[14:50] <wgrant> Lockal: Timezones.
[14:51] <wgrant> Lockal: When you're logged in it will show the date in your account's timezone.
[14:51] <Lockal> wallyworld, where I acn set them? https://launchpad.net/~lockal/+edit has no option fo this
[14:51] <Lockal> *can
[14:52] <wgrant> Lockal: See the edit icon next to "Time zone" on https://launchpad.net/~lockal, or visit https://launchpad.net/~lockal/+editlocation
[14:54] <Lockal> wgrant, thank you, now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739812/comments/5 looks much more reliable
[14:56] <fta> wgrant, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.html
[14:57] <fta> wgrant, i don't believe the popularity of that daily ppa grew that much over night
[14:57] <wgrant> fta: Your script didn't change?
[14:58] <wgrant> Ah, I see.
[14:58] <fta> wgrant, i'm working on it right now, but all those numbers come from the same run
[14:59] <fta> so even if i'm doing it wrong, it should be wrong in the same way over the full period
[14:59] <wgrant> Indeed, something must have changed on the LP end.
[14:59] <wgrant> Let me see.
[15:01] <fta> btw, it's way faster than last time i worked on it (dec/jan)
[15:01] <wgrant> LP is much faster than it was at the end of last year.
[15:01] <fta> still slow though (x hours to poll that ppa)
[15:02] <wgrant> Yeah :/
[15:02] <fta> but at least, it's easier to work with, and no timeout so far
[15:03] <fta> congrats to whoever did this ;)
[15:06] <wgrant> fta: So, some very relevant changes were rolled out on Feb 10. I'll grab some Apache logs from the sysadmins tomorrow and compare them with the parsed results, but I think the new ones are correct. I don't understand why the old ones didn't get fixed, though.
[15:07] <fta> the stats are there: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.json
[15:07] <wgrant> Ah, perfect. Thanks.
[15:09] <fta> also, i see nothing older than 2009-12-19
[15:10] <wgrant> That must be how far the logs go back.
[15:10] <wgrant> Although I thought it was longer than that.
[15:12] <fta> well, before that, there are something but it's always zero
[15:13] <wgrant> Hmm.
[15:18] <fta> -are+is, sigh
[15:20] <fta> wgrant, i wanted to blog about this, but i guess i should wait until you figure out what's wrong
[15:25] <wgrant> fta: Yeah, I'll try to get back to you on this tomorrow :)
[15:25] <fta> wgrant, thanks
[15:26] <jelmer> fta: hi
[15:27] <jelmer> fta: I've been working on a script recently that displays the status of daily builds (e.g. http://people.canonical.com/~jelmer/recipe-status/bzr.html). lifeless mentioned you are / were working on something similar?
[15:32] <fta> jelmer, hi, do you mean this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html ?
[15:33] <fta> jelmer, also http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html
[15:36] <jelmer> fta: ah, yes
[15:37] <jelmer> fta: is that specific to the chromium PPA, do you think it would be worth generalizing?
[15:38] <jelmer> fta: Does it use the API or does it screen scrape?
[15:38] <fta> jelmer, it's not specific to any ppa.
[15:38] <fta> api
[15:38] <fta> the code is linked in the sig
[15:38] <jelmer> fta: I'll check it out - thanks
[15:39] <fta> jelmer, if you want to improve it, you're welcome ;)
[15:39] <jelmer> fta: IIRC you don't use recipes right?
[15:40] <jelmer> fta: I might see if I can port that bit over from my script
[15:41] <jelmer> fta: do you have any plans to publish the source code for http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.html ?
[15:42] <fta> jelmer, sure. but as i just said to wgrant, the figures are somewhat weird
[15:43] <fta> jelmer, if you want to see how i run my ppa dashboard script, look at the end of my generated html pages (view source)
[15:46] <fta> there is a bunch of lp bugs that would need to be fixed to make this perfect
[20:15] <bewest> I've created several debian packages for work and personal use now, but I'm a  still a little foggy on some of the details?  what's the difference between a source and binary package?  are new projects required to write a new rules from scratch?  I thought I saw a hello world example somewhere..
[20:19] <bewest> I don't quite understand how the milestones affect how packages get advertised.  do entries in the debian/changelog alone determine which versions of ubuntu are available? natty vs lucid? or does there need to be a --distribution param somewhere in the build process?
[20:35] <bewest> ah, it can be influenced by using dput
[21:07] <deqer> Hello, is there a channel for the Synapse project?
[21:42] <lifeless> deqer: https://launchpad.net/synapse?