[01:31] <kristian-aalborg> I'm moving a ton of files via scp... now it's going back to a folder it already moved?
[01:32] <kristian-aalborg> copying, that is
[01:32] <kristian-aalborg> also, the order seems... random?
[01:33] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: music box almost up and running :)
[02:27] <SkrappJaw> hp printer issues
[02:52] <Guest460372> i have had good luck with tcp/ip printers, but other printers have taken some tinkering to get working
[08:19] <fds2> I've swapped mainboard from my machine and got to the CLI using edited GRUB2 menu, but how do I bring up the Xwindow?
[08:20] <Abhijit> fds2, startx
[08:32] <fds2> Abhijit: "FATAL: nvidia not found." Fatal server error: no screens found.  Currently, I am booted under onboard video (but video is nvida AGP).   How do I tell it to forget about nvidia?
[08:33] <Abhijit> fds2, no idea
[08:33] <fds2> ok ty
[11:22] <tdn> How do I make the multitouch touchpad work on a Mac Book Pro?
[11:22] <tdn> I have tried following instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-1/Natty#15-inch and 17-inch
[11:23] <tdn> I have just installed Ubuntu on a new MacBook Pro. In the lower right cornor there is an AMD logo saying Unsuoported hardware. How do I get rid og this? Also, how to I make wlan work?
[11:45] <bioterror> use OS X and Fink/Mac ports
[11:45] <bioterror> I dont pay huge ammount of money for bentley and put 1.4 l polo motor inside it
[11:57] <tdn> bioterror, fink?
[11:58] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[12:03] <kristian-aalborg> hurm, setfont command not working .
[12:03] <kristian-aalborg> all I get is "cannot find default font"
[12:32] <kristian-aalborg> hurm, found a workaround... but still odd, never seen something like that
[12:50] <suprengr> Going back to AlanBell's comment & this weeks podcast - I quote from weather forecast... "Temperature: 10°C (50°F), Wind Direction: SW, Wind Speed: 10mph, Relative Humidity: 95%, Pressure: 1013mb, rising, Visibility: Very good" ... was the weather forecast using PornView?
[12:51] <suprengr> ;)
[12:51] <suprengr> ... o/ peeps
[15:30] <malvin> hello
[15:30] <malvin> can some one please help me
[15:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> !ask malvin
[15:30] <ubot2> Factoid 'ask malvin' not found
[15:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> !ask | malvin
[15:31] <ubot2> malvin: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[15:31]  * IAmNotThatGuy is getting some memory loss these days
[15:31] <malvin> i have a touchpad problem
[15:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> malvin, what happens?
[15:40] <malvin> hello sorry my internet stoped, so as i said i have a tuchpad problem, when i used the live version of the ubuntu netboot 10.10 the tuchpad worked just fine, but now afther i installed it is not working any more so i have to use a mouse.   PS im really new to ubuntu just a few minutes old , and i have a small netbook an acer aspire one a110\
[15:41] <malvin> ...?
[15:42] <holstein> malvin: i would check for a hardware switch
[15:42] <malvin> ok and that means sorry im really new to these
[15:42] <malvin> the tuchpad works but left click doesent work and not even the tap click
[15:46] <MrChrisDruif> malvin: holstein means a button on your Acer to turn you mousepad on or off
[15:46] <holstein> malvin: i would upgrad
[15:46] <holstein> upgrade
[15:46] <holstein> get all updates
[15:46] <holstein> and check again after rebooting
[17:52] <gwark> Hi, I am having some problems with installing Ubuntu 10.10 and am looking for some help
[17:54] <holstein> gwark: do tell..
[17:54] <gwark> thanks.  The installer fails to install a boot loader.
[17:54] <gwark> this is a re-install, and it worked before
[17:54] <Guest43956> hi guys. need help with connecting to a wifi network. any help welcome. i'm using ubuntu 10.10 maverick meerkat on a samsung n510 netbook
[17:54] <holstein> !grub2
[17:54] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:55] <gwark> target is a 20GB partition /dev/sda1
[17:55] <holstein> gwark: maybe try restoring grub
[17:55] <gwark> there are no other partitions / oses involved
[17:55] <holstein> the way i do it
[17:55] <holstein> if i already have linux installed
[17:55] <holstein> i usually dont install grub
[17:55] <holstein> for example
[17:55] <gwark> I wiped the drive first
[17:55] <holstein> i have 10.04 installed
[17:55] <holstein> and i installed 10.10 and 11.04
[17:55] <holstein> without grub
[17:55] <holstein> when i go back to 10.04
[17:56] <gwark> new partition table, new partition, new fs ext4
[17:56] <holstein> i run sudo update-grub
[17:56] <holstein> and that grub picks up the new installations
[17:56] <holstein> Guest43956: can you plug it into wired internet?
[17:56] <gwark> I even tried dding /dev/zero to the first 4MB of /dev/sda to make sure it was clean.  This is my third attempt
[17:56] <holstein> and see if there are proprietary drivers
[17:56] <holstein> ?
[17:56] <holstein> that can be installed
[17:57] <Guest43956> yeah, I'm currently online via wire network
[17:57] <holstein> gwark: have you tried not installing grub
[17:57] <holstein> and restoring it via live CD ?
[17:57] <Guest43956> holstein i'm using wicd 1.7.0 by the way
[17:57] <gwark> I'm booted in via a USB pen install right now, so I can do anything to the drive you'd like me to try
[17:58] <holstein> gwark: try reading that page about recovering grub
[17:58] <holstein> see if that works for you
[17:58] <holstein> i find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 very informative
[17:58] <holstein> Guest43956: i dont use wicd
[17:59] <holstein> did the normal gnome network tools not work?
[17:59] <holstein> is it driver related?
[17:59] <holstein> or did you just prefer wicd?
[18:00] <Guest43956> holstein: well, first I uninstalled network-manager, because wifi didn't work, so I changed to wicd, but the problem remains
[18:00] <gwark> holstein: assuming I can make grub work manually, I still have the problem that the ubuntu installer doesn't continue
[18:00] <gwark> I'm at a menu that says: "Bootloader install failed".  It says "How would you like to proceed", there are 3 options.  I can choose "Continue without a bootloader".  But when I press the "OK" button, nothing happens.
[18:01] <holstein> Guest43956: i would try troubleshooting the issue as if it were a driver issue
[18:01] <holstein> since the network tool provided works
[18:01] <holstein> just not with your specific hardware
[18:01] <gwark> in fact, it appears nothing in this UI works.  I can't even close this dialog, nor do any of the options work.
[18:01] <Guest43956> holstein: I'm a ubuntu newbie, so I don't know much about installing or reconfiguring drivers in ubuntu. do you think it is a driver problem? do you know how to reset the drivers of the ethernet card?
[18:01] <holstein> gwark: i would not install grub there, and try moving on
[18:02] <holstein> double check the md5 sum
[18:02] <gwark> I don't know what "try moving on" means?  The UI does not advance.
[18:02] <holstein> make sure the disc burn is good
[18:02] <holstein> gwark: trying other things
[18:02] <holstein> like the above suggestions
[18:02] <holstein> about the disc integretiy
[18:02] <gwark> I'll try rebuilding the flash drive
[18:02] <Guest43956> holstein: the netbook was delivered with windows 7, but I uninstalled it and changed to ubuntu. maybe that's the source of the problem? wifi worked when running windows
[18:02] <holstein> i usually format
[18:02] <holstein> clean
[18:02] <holstein> and use unetbootin
[18:03] <holstein> Guest43956: the issue is
[18:03] <holstein> you probably dont have driver support
[18:03] <holstein> just like in windows7
[18:03] <holstein> it does not "come" with support for your wireless hardware
[18:03] <holstein> when possible
[18:03] <holstein> ubuntu and other linux distrobutions
[18:03] <holstein> provide driver support out of the box
[18:04] <holstein> but, with some WIFI devices
[18:04] <holstein> such as broadcom
[18:04] <holstein> they *cannot* be provided
[18:04] <holstein> Guest43956: im just suggesting that changing network tools is not going to help
[18:04] <holstein> you probably have a broadcom chip or something else tricky to configure
[18:04] <holstein> you can run in a terminal
[18:04] <holstein> lspci
[18:05] <Guest43956> holstein: ok just a sec
[18:05] <holstein> and see what the wireless device is
[18:05] <holstein> and then google
[18:05] <holstein> ubuntu whatever wireless device
[18:05] <holstein> and probably find lots of information about bugs
[18:05] <holstein> or how-to's
[18:05] <holstein> or how-not-to's ;)
[18:06] <Guest43956> holstein: alright, it's a RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller
[18:06] <Guest43956> holstein: so I need the ubuntu-adapted drivers for this controller?
[18:06] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359808
[18:06] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550043
[18:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 550043 in linux "Dosn't work Wireless RTL8192E at TOSHIBA satellite U505 in the Ubuntu 10.04 beta1" [Undecided,Expired]
[18:06] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/674663
[18:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 674663 in linux "RTL8192E wireless no longer works after first update to 10.10 [rtl819xE:ERR in init_firmware()]" [High,In progress]
[18:07] <holstein> ^ id say those are a good place to start
[18:07] <holstein> Guest43956: im just saying switching to wicd
[18:07] <holstein> or whatever
[18:07] <holstein> wont help
[18:07] <holstein> if you dont address the main issue
[18:08] <Guest43956> holstein: that's understood.
[18:08] <holstein> you can also try the windows driver for it
[18:08] <holstein> thats easy enough
[18:08] <beta0x64> Guest43956, I had this error
[18:09] <beta0x64> I overcame it with wicd and the latest realtek drivers.
[18:09] <holstein> beta0x64: how did you deal?
[18:09] <holstein> cool :)
[18:09] <holstein> there you go Guest43956 ^
[18:09] <beta0x64> It worked for a while with network-manager
[18:09] <beta0x64> let me check my drivers.
[18:09] <Guest43956> holstein:_ thank you for help. i'll download the windows driver and run it through ndiswrapper
[18:09] <Guest43956> beta0x64: let me hear :-)
[18:10] <holstein> Guest43956: or do what beta0x64 is suggesting
[18:10] <holstein> since beta0x64 has the hardware
[18:10] <beta0x64> my realtek in the release notes is: Release driver version = 0002.0320.2009
[18:10] <beta0x64> I have rtl8192SE
[18:10] <beta0x64> it is not correctly recognized by lspci I think
[18:11] <Guest43956> beta0x64 uhu. so you have a different card
[18:11] <beta0x64> are you sure it is rtl8192E or rtl8192se?
[18:12] <beta0x64> mine is recognized in lspci as rtl8191seva
[18:12] <beta0x64> but it's not...
[18:12] <Guest43956> its rtl8192e for sure
[18:12] <Guest43956> at least this is what lspci tells me
[18:12] <beta0x64> I always recommend downloading the firmware from realtek. it stopped working a week or two ago. I ended up installing wicd and reinstalling the driver
[18:13] <Guest43956> i guess realtek doesn't have ubuntu drivers for the card? so I need ndiswrapper, correct?
[18:14] <beta0x64> that wasn't my case. they had drivers but they were old.
[18:14] <beta0x64> I don't have ndiswrapper running. I have ubuntu 10.10, realtek drivers, wicd installed.
[18:15] <Guest43956> and the drivers work although they're old?
[18:16] <beta0x64> for me, yes.
[18:16] <beta0x64> some people were even saying that it was power management shuttnig it off.
[18:16] <beta0x64> my problem was that I would be connected for about 15 minutes, then it would fail.
[18:17] <beta0x64> this was only after restarting into windows (ew) and connecting then rebooting into ubuntu
[18:17] <Guest43956> i understand. i'm on the realtek website right nox, looking for the driver
[18:17] <beta0x64> do you want me to upload the ones that I used?
[18:17] <Guest43956> that would be even better
[18:19] <beta0x64> one moment. I have no guarantee on these btw
[18:19] <beta0x64> http://ubuntuone.com/p/kk2/
[18:20] <Guest43956> that's alright. how can I install them btw? via terminal? unfortunately I have no experience in installing programs in ubuntu
[18:20] <beta0x64> one minute
[18:22] <beta0x64> well assuming that these are your drivers...
[18:22] <beta0x64> open the terminal, travel to where you saved it.
[18:23] <Guest43956> alright. downloaded it. how can i travel to the directory?
[18:23] <beta0x64> open the terminal. type in these commands.
[18:23] <beta0x64> cd ~/Downloads
[18:24] <beta0x64> tar -xvf rtl8192 (now hit tab, that will complete the filename for you)
[18:24] <beta0x64> without the space btw
[18:24] <Guest43956> command not found
[18:24] <beta0x64> what is the command not found?
[18:25] <beta0x64> tar -xvf rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009.tar.gz
[18:25] <Guest43956> cd: /home/joerg/downloads: file or directory not found
[18:25] <beta0x64> capital D
[18:26] <beta0x64> cd ~/Downloads
[18:26] <Guest43956> uh, ok
[18:26] <Guest43956> worked
[18:26] <beta0x64> did you do tar -xvf yet?
[18:27] <Guest43956> doing it right now. having problems with strg-c and -v ;-)
[18:27] <Guest43956> ctrl-c
[18:29] <Guest43956> couldn't execute read
[18:30] <Guest43956> I'm translating btw. system language is german
[18:30] <beta0x64> okay
[18:31] <beta0x64> tar -xvf rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009.tar.gz
[18:31] <beta0x64> that should work, really.
[18:32] <Guest43956> worked
[18:32] <Guest43956> and now?
[18:33] <beta0x64> cd rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009
[18:34] <Guest43956> done
[18:34] <beta0x64> okay
[18:34] <beta0x64> after you run these commands you will get a bunch of text
[18:35] <beta0x64> this is the process of making the drivers then installing them
[18:35] <beta0x64> type in this
[18:35] <Guest43956> ok
[18:35] <beta0x64> make
[18:35] <beta0x64> then I think you have to be root for make install
[18:36] <Guest43956> entering directory...
[18:36] <beta0x64> it's working
[18:36] <beta0x64> it'll tell you errors at the end before it breaks if something is wrong
[18:37] <Guest43956> ok
[18:37] <Guest43956> left the directory. where can I see the errors?
[18:38] <beta0x64> it would say in between brackets [Error .. blah blah blah
[18:38] <Guest43956> uh ok. just a sec
[18:38] <beta0x64> it'd be kinda obvious I think but look over the end part
[18:38] <Guest43956> /home/joerg/Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009/HAL/rtl8192/r8192S_phy.c: In function ‘rtl8192_phy_setTxPower’:
[18:38] <Guest43956> /home/joerg/Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009/HAL/rtl8192/r8192S_phy.c:1785: warning: enumeration value ‘RF_TYPE_MIN’ not handled in switch
[18:38] <Guest43956> /home/joerg/Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009/HAL/rtl8192/r8192S_phy.c:1785: warning: enumeration value ‘RF_PSEUDO_11N’ not handled in switch
[18:39] <Guest43956> these are the lines that look "unusual" to me
[18:39] <beta0x64> nope
[18:39] <Guest43956> at the end it says
[18:39] <beta0x64> warnings are okay
[18:39] <beta0x64> errors ar ebad
[18:39] <beta0x64> are*
[18:39] <Guest43956>  Building modules, stage 2.
[18:39] <Guest43956>   MODPOST 1 modules
[18:39] <Guest43956>   CC      /home/joerg/Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009/HAL/rtl8192/r8192se_pci.mod.o
[18:39] <Guest43956>   LD [M]  /home/joerg/Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009/HAL/rtl8192/r8192se_pci.ko
[18:39] <Guest43956> these are the last 4 lines
[18:39] <beta0x64> it's good then
[18:39] <Guest43956> alright.
[18:40] <beta0x64> now I think you should become root.
[18:40] <Guest43956> joerg@joerg-N510:~/Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009$
[18:40] <Guest43956> this is the line I'm in at the moment
[18:40] <beta0x64> type this in:
[18:40] <beta0x64> sudo su -
[18:40] <beta0x64> then your password
[18:41] <Guest43956> root@joerg-N510:~#
[18:41] <Guest43956> is where i'm now
[18:42] <beta0x64> cd /home/joerg/Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009
[18:42] <beta0x64> make install
[18:43] <Guest43956> it seems to work
[18:43] <beta0x64> now you have to restart
[18:43] <beta0x64> as root, type
[18:43] <beta0x64> reboot
[18:43] <beta0x64> AFTER you save
[18:44] <Guest43956> save what?
[18:44] <beta0x64> whatever you are doing. I dont want you to lose any files or anything. close out of all your programs and restart
[18:44] <beta0x64> then see if it works with wicd now
[18:45] <pavanai>  i got struck while booting to ubuntu ultimate edition 2.8
[18:46] <Guest43956> alright. I'll be back in a minute. if not, I'll probably be surfing via wifi ;-) thank you very much for your patience and help. you rescued my day.
[18:46] <beta0x64> we'll see!
[18:47] <beta0x64> have a good one, hopefully
[18:47] <Guest43956> thx. bye
[18:48] <pavanai> help me!!!!!
[18:49] <beta0x64> what's wrong pavanai ?
[18:49] <Abhijit> pavanai, ultimate edition is not supported
[18:50] <beta0x64> hi Joerg.
[18:51] <Guest19025> hi. it tried to connect to my preferred wifi, but it said: "wrong password" this is a problem I've already experienced. but after that, it still can't find a wifi network
[18:51] <beta0x64> strange.
[18:51] <beta0x64> you can't search for any wifi network?
[18:51] <Guest19025> password is correct. it also didn't work when I turned off wpa
[18:51] <Guest19025> nope
[18:52] <pavanai> beta0x64, after showing the logo of ue 2.8 no progress
[18:52] <beta0x64> hmmm.
[18:52] <pavanai> Abhijit, do u hav a solution?
[18:53] <charlie-tca> pavanai: exactly why ultimate edition is not supported. Do they have any support anywhere?
[18:53] <Abhijit> pavanai, i dont have solution. and ultimate edition is not supported here
[18:53] <charlie-tca> Otherwise, you could download and install the real Ubuntu release
[18:55] <pavanai> charlie-tca, everybdy says d same NOT SUPPORTED.....but ver shud i go 4 support?
[18:55] <charlie-tca> You have to read their docs where you got it from. Ubuntu does not support Ultimate Edition because it does not work!
[18:56] <pavanai> ok thnx
[18:56] <charlie-tca> You will not get support for it in any #ubuntu- channel
[18:56] <Abhijit> pavanai, read their homepage
[18:56] <Abhijit> pavanai, they have all info about irc channel, forum, etc everything is there in their homepage
[18:57] <pavanai> Abhijit, thnx a lot
[18:57] <charlie-tca> Even after you get it installed, it will not be supported by Ubuntu
[18:58] <Guest19025> beta0x64: no idea?
[18:58] <pavanai> charlie-tca, how to setup a local repository on a network?
[18:58] <charlie-tca> don't know
[19:00] <pavanai> ok
[19:27] <gwark> holstein: clean install of the OS from a new pen drive didn't work.
[19:27] <gwark> same problem.  RMA'ing the box
[19:27] <gwark> thanks for the help
[20:46] <hillary_> I just installed Ubuntu, and my monitor is blurring everything. Can anyone tell me a possible reason for this and how to solve it?
[20:48] <hillary_> To be more specific, my display has offset horizontal stripes that are moving and shaking constantly.
[20:50] <real> can some1 help me with ati drivers?
[20:50] <holstein> hillary_: you might just have one of those tricky graphics card
[20:50] <holstein> cards*
[20:50] <holstein> i would probably try a custom xorg.conf
[20:51] <holstein> sometimes i try knoppix live
[20:51] <hillary_> ok
[20:51] <holstein> and steal the xorg from it
[20:51] <hillary_> can you ecplain how to do that?
[20:51] <holstein> real: in what way?
[20:51] <real> alright so when I download the default drivers from ubuntu download manager or something ubuntu wont boot up I had to go into the manager and uninstall it to get it to work
[20:51] <real> my monitor supports 1920X1080 res but ubuntu only supports 160x1200
[20:51] <holstein> hillary_: it really depends on your hardware
[20:51] <holstein> hillary_: have you installed yet?
[20:52] <real> and whne i tried the drivers from amd's site it says the format isnt recognized and they wont install
[20:52] <hillary_> Yes I have.
[20:52] <holstein> you can try some things with a live CD
[20:52] <holstein> hillary_: also, update if you can
[20:52] <holstein> use control+alt+F2
[20:53] <holstein> login
[20:53] <holstein> and do sudo apt-get update
[20:53] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrage
[20:53] <holstein> upgrade*
[20:53] <hillary_> thanks
[20:53] <holstein> IF you still have problems after upgrading
[20:54] <holstein> you can experiment with other things
[20:54] <holstein> like vesa driver
[20:54] <real> anyone have any ideas for my problem :(
[20:54] <holstein> real: what drivers are you trying to download?
[20:54] <holstein> the windows drivers?
[20:54] <real> ati drivers
[20:55] <real> for my gpu
[20:55] <real> so i can display my native res
[20:55] <holstein> right
[20:55] <holstein> for linux?
[20:55] <real> yes
[20:55] <real> my monitor is 1920x1080
[20:55] <holstein> yeah
[20:55] <holstein> i get that
[20:55] <holstein> can you link me to the drivers?
[20:55] <real> k holdon
[20:56] <real> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[20:57] <holstein> real: youve read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[20:57] <real> no i didnt know that existed
[20:58] <real> yea i already had the fglrx driver
[20:58] <real> it made ubuntu crash
[20:58] <real> i had to uninstall it
[21:00] <holstein> real: be sure you google around for bugs related to your specific hardware
[21:00] <holstein> that can be helpful
[21:01] <real> driver manager says the fglrx driver is working but when i type in fglrx in terminal it says it isnt l
[21:13] <real> sudo sh ati-driver-installer-11-2-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/maverick
[21:13] <real> does any1 know how to fix that
[21:13] <real> sh: Can't open ati-driver-installer-11-2-x86.x86_64.run
[21:13] <real> i mean that
[21:13] <holstein> real: thats the package you downloaded right?
[21:15] <real> accidently clicked something, so did anyone answer?
[21:15] <holstein> real: thats the package you downloaded right?
[21:15] <real> yes
[21:16] <real> from ati site
[21:16] <real> it cant run it
[21:16] <holstein> i would try and trouble shoot the ubuntu packaged version
[21:16] <real> ?????
[21:16] <holstein> the one in the repos
[21:16] <holstein> that didnt work for you
[21:16] <real> i had ubuntu for the past hour i have no idea what any of that means lol
[21:16] <holstein> ubuntu packages that driver
[21:17] <holstein> and its probably an older one
[21:17] <holstein> but, its still the one the kernel *should* be expecting
[21:17] <holstein> and other packages in ubuntu
[21:17] <real> hm
[21:17] <real> when i had that one and started ubuntu it crashed
[21:17] <real> etc
[21:18] <holstein> right
[21:18] <holstein> have you searched for a related bug report?
[21:18] <holstein> are your pacakges up to date?
[21:19] <real> ye
[21:19] <real> alright i think i got it
[21:19] <real> i gave it permission to run as a program
[21:19] <real> and its working'
[21:19] <holstein> cool
[21:19] <holstein> i usually try and go with whats in the repos
[21:19] <holstein> when possible
[21:19] <real> holstein do u have a link to a guide about ubuntu
[21:19] <real> cause its hard to understand what ur saying lol
[21:20] <holstein> this is the guide you should read fully
[21:20] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:20] <holstein> real: you can always just ask about what you dont understand
[21:20] <real> repos packages everything
[21:21] <holstein> what im trying to suggest is that it could be better to *not* use the driver you are downloading
[21:21] <holstein> but, you can always undo what you are doing
[21:21] <holstein> in theory
[21:21] <holstein> so go for it
[21:21] <real> yea
[21:21] <holstein> you're at the beginning here, so worst case, you reinstall
[21:21] <real> lol
[21:27] <fds2> I've dropped my HD into a different mainboard, Ubuntu stalled upon startup, so I'd like to wipe and reinstall (using Natty beta).  However, I'd like to copy /home from the system partition to another partition from the CLI.  Been reading several websites, still not sure of the steps.  Can anyone help?
[21:27] <holstein> fds2: can you go back to the other machine?
[21:27] <holstein> maybe its just the graphics driver?
[21:27] <holstein> or some other customization making it not boot
[21:28] <holstein> anyways, if i were you, i would just get a live cd
[21:28] <holstein> and copy in the GUI
[21:28] <holstein> if thats what you are used to seeing
[21:28] <holstein> if not, just google command line commands
[21:48] <Guest61407> hi guys. can someone help me with a wifi issue?
[21:48] <fds2> holstein: booted to Natty beta LiveCD, cannot copy home folder because I do not have permissions to read it
[21:55] <Guest61407> realtek rtl8192e won't detect any wireless networks after installing linux driver. any suggestions?
[22:20] <malvin> hello i need some help after i installed the ubuntu netbook 10.10 updates my touchpad stopt working, i have a acer aspire one the a110 model, can some one help me...?
[22:23] <malvin> hello i need some help after i installed the ubuntu netbook 10.10 updates my touchpad stopt working, i have a acer aspire one the a110 model, can some one help me...? ps im a rooky
[22:28] <bioterror> malvin, fn+f7
[22:28] <bioterror> does it work after that key combination
[22:28] <malvin> it doesent work
[22:28] <malvin> no:'(
[22:28] <malvin> it shows that it is activated but not working
[22:29] <malvin> what can i do to fix these problem..?
[22:30] <bioterror> boot from CD or USB and check if it works there
[22:31] <malvin> yes it worked..
[22:32] <malvin> it worked before the install and the updates
[22:32] <malvin> but now not even that..?
[22:35] <malvin> im really new to linux you can say that im 5 hours  old to it
[22:36] <bioterror> 5 hours
[22:37] <malvin> yea i want to get rid of windows
[22:38] <malvin> can you help me....?
[22:39] <bioterror> wonderng which could cause the problem
[22:39] <MrChrisDruif> ...I'm not gonna say what I'm thinking :D
[22:39] <malvin> do you have skype....?
[22:40] <bioterror> I have skype on my phone :D
[22:40] <malvin> please help me if you can
[22:40] <bioterror> I can chat with it
[22:40] <malvin> ...
[22:40] <MrChrisDruif> What did you try so far malvin?
[22:40] <malvin> whel
[22:40] <malvin> i have an acer aspire one a110
[22:40] <malvin> it had his ssd broken
[22:41] <malvin> so now i instaled ubuntu netbook 10.10 on a flash drive
[22:41] <malvin> it worked perfectly wen it was in live mode
[22:41] <malvin> but now the touchpad stoepd working afther i insstaled the updates
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> If the SSD is really broken, then there isn't much you can do other then swapping the SSD
[22:42] <bioterror> probably a kernel update broke it
[22:43] <malvin> how can i check that..?
[22:43] <malvin> or better said how can i fix it..?
[22:44] <malvin> yea i know
[22:45] <malvin> but honestly im not able to do that
[22:48] <bioterror> malvin, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[22:48] <MrChrisDruif> That might also be a good idea
[22:49] <malvin> these i have to type in an terminal right
[22:49] <bioterror> I would suggest to do that, yes
[22:50] <bioterror> hmmm
[22:50] <bioterror> do we really have +5C outside
[22:51] <malvin> ok i did that
[22:51] <malvin> and it instaled
[22:51] <bioterror> did it install it
[22:51] <malvin> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[22:52] <malvin> Reading package lists... Done
[22:52] <malvin> Building dependency tree
[22:52] <malvin> Reading state information... Done
[22:52] <malvin> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is already the newest version.
[22:52] <malvin> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[22:52] <malvin>   linux-headers-2.6.35-22 linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic
[22:52] <malvin> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[22:52] <malvin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:52] <bioterror> hoho
[22:52] <bioterror> can you choose from the boot menu that kernel 2.6.35-22?
[22:52] <malvin> ....?
[22:53] <malvin> can some one explain to me step buy step how i have to do that...?
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> The grub I mentioned malvin
[22:53] <malvin> or em i asking to much
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> I just can't remember how to get there
[22:53] <bioterror> press shift during boot
[22:54] <bioterror> right after the BIOS
[22:54] <malvin> yes
[22:54] <malvin> and then..?
[22:54] <bioterror> choose older kernel
[22:54] <malvin> is there an old list
[22:54] <malvin> or how
[22:54] <bioterror> well
[22:55] <bioterror> I'm off to bed, it's 00:55 and i have to get up 06:00
[22:55] <bioterror> someone else will continue from here on
[22:55] <bioterror> maybe our american friends
[22:55] <malvin> im from romania
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> Or your Dutch friend. I'll try for a while bioterror
[22:56] <bioterror> yeah
[22:56] <malvin> uhu
[22:56] <bioterror> I tried to write job application email, but lack of motivation :D
[22:57] <MrChrisDruif> Not motivated to get a new job bioterror?
[22:57] <bioterror> or write about myself :D
[23:01] <MrChrisDruif> So malvin: you press shift after/during bios so you get to a selection screen with installed kernels :)
[23:01] <malvin> ok
[23:01] <malvin> and then
[23:01] <MrChrisDruif> And just select the oldest kernel (lowest number) in the list
[23:01] <malvin> .....
[23:01] <malvin> aa
[23:02] <malvin> and if that works
[23:02] <malvin> it is dome
[23:02] <malvin> right...?
[23:02] <MrChrisDruif> Then should the mousepad be working. At least I hope :)
[23:02] <malvin> ok
[23:02] <malvin> so brb then
[23:02] <malvin> i will see you right
[23:02] <malvin> or you have to go....
[23:03] <malvin> MrCrisDruif: wiill you still be here afther i tried to select the old kernel
[23:03] <MrChrisDruif> I'll try :)
[23:04] <malvin> ok
[23:04] <MrChrisDruif> It's just been midnight here
[23:12] <malvin> MrCrisDruift: nop stil now working :'(
[23:15] <MrChrisDruif> Alright..
[23:15] <MrChrisDruif> Did it ever work when installed?
[23:17] <malvin> no
[23:17] <malvin> it worked
[23:17] <malvin> but not clicking
[23:17] <malvin> and thous things
[23:17] <malvin> it just moved
[23:17] <malvin> but now not even that
[23:19] <MrChrisDruif> Did you select update while installing?
[23:19] <malvin> no
[23:19] <malvin> i instaled afther
[23:20] <malvin> the updates
[23:20] <MrChrisDruif> You installed after the updates?
[23:20] <malvin> yea
[23:20] <MrChrisDruif> So you first updated and then installed?
[23:21] <malvin> nop i instaled ubuntu
[23:21] <malvin> the left click didnt work
[23:21] <malvin> not even the double tap
[23:21] <malvin> so i did the updates
[23:23] <MrChrisDruif> And then nothing worked?
[23:28] <MrChrisDruif> malvin: Isn't it ~1:30 at your timezone?
[23:28] <malvin> yea
[23:29] <malvin> yes afther then nothing worked
[23:29] <MrChrisDruif> Wouldn't it be best if you tried again tomorrow? It seems you and bioterror are in the same timezone
[23:29] <malvin> i dont know ususly when i want to get some thing done i dont stop
[23:30] <malvin> but if you think these is the best solution
[23:30] <malvin> i will do that
[23:31] <MrChrisDruif> It's your own decision of course :)
[23:31] <MrChrisDruif> But I'm at a loss, I don't know what else you could try
[23:31] <malvin> do you know some one alce who can help me
[23:32] <MrChrisDruif> Well, in general anyone in this room should be able to help, if he/she knows what to do :)
[23:32] <malvin> in linus isent these some thing like remote desktop so some one could take a look at my pc and work with it
[23:32] <MrChrisDruif> You could also try in #ubuntu, but it's hectic over there :)
[23:32] <malvin> i know
[23:32] <malvin> i realised
[23:33] <malvin> i tried for 1 hour but no one said nothing
[23:33] <MrChrisDruif> In that channel it might be better to pull someone in private channel when they respond, otherwise you might miss what's being said to you
[23:33] <malvin> ook
[23:34] <malvin> how should i put the question
[23:34] <MrChrisDruif> Something like this:
[23:34] <malvin> because now you know better what is my problem
[23:35] <malvin> .....
[23:37] <holstein> fds2: you'll have to sudo
[23:38] <holstein> gksudo nautilus if you want *should work
[23:39] <MrChrisDruif> Hai everyone: I've got a mousepad issue on my Acer Aspire A110. With the livecd of the netbook edition everything worked, but after installation my left mouse button and double tap didn't work. After updating my entire mouse stopped working. I've tried installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, but it was up-to-date. I also tried booting to an older kernel, but that didn't work either. Does anybody know what else I can try?
[23:39] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry, had to formulate your question :)
[23:39] <malvin> ok thx
[23:40] <malvin> thx chris
[23:41] <holstein> malvin: are you up to date?
[23:41] <holstein> with upgrades?
[23:41] <malvin> yes
[23:41] <holstein> malvin: try booting in with just gnome
[23:42] <malvin> what is that
[23:43] <holstein> the normal desktop mode
[23:43] <holstein> without the netbook remix
[23:43] <malvin> is it a netbook remix these one
[23:44] <holstein> yeah
[23:44] <holstein> i have all kinds of netbooks *not* running the netbook remix
[23:44] <malvin> so netbook 10.10 is a remix version
[23:44] <malvin> ...?
[23:44] <holstein> but, thats a seperate suggestion
[23:45] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600177
[23:45] <MrChrisDruif> malvin: Yes, it's unity instead of gnome
[23:45] <holstein> looks like you are not alone
[23:46] <holstein> this might be relevant http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#Touchpad