[00:00] <bts3685|vps> ChinnoDog: i just tried it on an ubu vm.
[00:00] <bts3685|vps> as long as you pass it to sudo, no warnings.
[00:00] <anduril> ChinnoDog one of the articles there on wikipedia talked about secureerase being built into the latest ATA standards but now I cant find it
[00:00] <bts3685|vps> also,  a totally hosed filesystem
[00:01] <bts3685|vps> hosed / filesystem at least. you're a little safe if you have /home etc. on diff. partitions
[00:02] <ChinnoDog> Or you didn't ignore world backup day
[00:02] <bts3685|vps> true
[00:03] <bts3685|vps> but either way it requires a baremetal os reinstall.
[03:51] <ChinnoDog> I have a lot of modems
[03:53] <ChinnoDog> I haven't even used a house phone in years
[03:53] <waltman> You can never have too many modems or house phones
[03:53] <ChinnoDog> .. in 1990. lol
[03:54] <ChinnoDog> One of these modems I purchased for $12 with the intention of connecting it to an asterisk box
[03:57] <ChinnoDog> I have 5 of them. Two of them are ISA
[03:57] <ChinnoDog> I have enough to start my own BBS.
[03:58] <ChinnoDog> oops, one is an ISA network card. I still have enough for a BBS.
[03:58] <pleia2> you should talk to bts3685|vps, he wants to run a BBS
[03:58] <ChinnoDog> lol
[03:58] <ChinnoDog> bts3685|vps: I haz 4 modems for your BBS
[03:58] <bts3685|vps> ChinnoDog: ORLY?? i was gonna run a bbs over ethernet, but oh MAN.
[03:58] <bts3685|vps> wouldn't be very accesible though.
[03:59] <ChinnoDog> They are /real/ modems too, not winmodems
[03:59] <bts3685|vps> not a lot of copper lines these days, and dial-in doesn't work over fiber/digital signal
[03:59] <ChinnoDog> It won't? Everyone gets free long distance nowadays, right?
[03:59] <bts3685|vps> ^
[04:00] <bts3685|vps> we'd have to start our own copper line provider service. hahaha
[04:00] <ChinnoDog> You can still get local loop..
[04:00] <ChinnoDog> lol
[04:00] <bts3685|vps> SO I CAN BBS WITH MYSELF ALL DAY LONG?
[04:00] <bts3685|vps> JOY!
[04:00] <pleia2> oh go bbs yourself
[04:00] <bts3685|vps> nah, there are, i belive, telnet-in bbses that work over ethernet
[04:01] <ChinnoDog> Yes, but no one uses them anymore. IRC was designed as the replacement for t-con and a lot of people don't even do that anymore. :-)
[04:01] <bts3685|vps> http://www.synchro.net/ for instance
[04:01] <PennBot> Title: Synchronet BBS Software (at www.synchro.net)
[04:01] <bts3685|vps> LLEVINS WOULD USE IT
[04:01] <bts3685|vps> and jedijf
[04:02] <ChinnoDog> Some of the BBSs eventualy started providing graphical clients that did less than a modern web page could do.
[04:02] <ChinnoDog> Though, they did work over a 14.4k modem at reasonable speed
[04:02] <bts3685|vps> synchro has some gui clients available even i think. :)
[04:03] <bts3685|vps> http://wiki.synchro.net/resource:term looks like they're actually all just  ssh/telnet graphical clients :)
[04:03] <PennBot> Title: Synchronet Terminal Programs (at wiki.synchro.net)
[04:04] <bts3685|vps> oh, and zmodem
[04:04] <ChinnoDog> zmodem came along late in the game
[04:04] <bts3685|vps> oldschool_shit++
[04:04] <bts3685|vps> and ssh even later :P
[04:04] <pleia2> we were still running an inn2 server for one of our clients until last year
[04:04] <ChinnoDog> kermit was 7-bit and people kept hacking off the first bit of every byte in their binary download
[04:04] <ChinnoDog> xmodem was the first widely used binary download protocol I think
[04:05] <ChinnoDog> ymodem came after that but few terminals supported it
[04:05] <ChinnoDog> zmodem came in at the beginning of the internet area. It was only slightly faster than xmodem.
[04:05] <ChinnoDog> s/area/era
[04:08]  * ChinnoDog throws them all in the trash
[04:08]  * ChinnoDog sighs
[04:08] <pleia2> if you're feeling adventurous you could see if free geek penn wants it
[04:09] <bts3685|vps> you could still make a local intercom system with asterisk as long as they aren't winmodems
[04:09] <pleia2> they still have a lot of dial up clients last I knew
[04:09] <ChinnoDog> Even though that may be true, I seriously doubt they have a shortage of modems
[04:10] <ChinnoDog> no, I think I'll be kind and keep my trash to myself
[04:10] <bts3685|vps> ChinnoDog: you should build a hackerspace and make a PTSN network!
[04:10] <bts3685|vps> confuse the skiddies ;)
[04:11] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: they said they couldn't use linux because all they have is winmodems, not enough regular modems
[04:11] <bts3685|vps> "WTF, WHAT IS THIS IPX NONSENSE?"
[04:11] <bts3685|vps> oohhh
[04:11] <ChinnoDog> ooh
[04:11] <pleia2> you could just call and offer them, worst they can say is "no, we don't want that junk" :)
[04:11] <ChinnoDog> I need to save the modems for linux peeps?
[04:11] <pleia2> they probably still won't switch to linux, but they did express the need when I was there a couple years ago
[04:12] <bts3685|vps> oh, also, http://linmodems.org/
[04:12] <PennBot> Title: linmodems.org (at linmodems.org)
[04:12] <bts3685|vps> i guess you CAN use winmodems in linux these days. huh.
[04:12] <pleia2> neat
[04:12] <bts3685|vps> IT'S ONLY A DECADE TOO LATE LOLZ.
[04:12] <ChinnoDog> lol
[04:13] <ChinnoDog> Two of my modems are identical. I wonder how that happened.
[04:14] <bts3685|vps> no but seriously. start a hackerspace and use those modems. :) REUSE OLD HARDWARE!
[04:14] <ChinnoDog> that is crazy bts. No one is going to use that
[04:14] <ChinnoDog> You want them, come and get them
[04:14] <bts3685|vps> i am in louisiana!
[04:14] <bts3685|vps> also i has no spare box
[04:14] <pleia2> maybe one of them is broken
[04:15] <ChinnoDog> If it was broken I would have chucked it. I only save broken power supplies, and those are going in the trash too
[04:16] <bts3685|vps> OH! a lot of security door systems (keypads, etc.) still use copper rj-11 lines
[04:17] <bts3685|vps> since it's a P-t-P line to the door access control node, it's a lot more secure. unless you rip the panel off and hook up a tone generator of some sort, like matthew broderick in Wargames did
[04:18] <pleia2> why do you save broken power supplies?
[04:18] <bts3685|vps> he probably removes the good capacitators, transistors, etc.
[04:18] <bts3685|vps> usually when a PSU blows, it's only one or two that go
[04:19] <ChinnoDog> Only in theory, bts. What I usually end up doing is hacking off the power supply connectors and soldering together splitters and extensions when I am too lazy/cheap to buy them.
[04:19] <ChinnoDog> In practice it is too much work to pry off the bad parts. If I realy wanted them I would just go to radio shack.
[04:20] <bts3685|vps> i thought maybe you did it for ecological ethic reasons :(
[04:20] <ChinnoDog> lol
[04:20] <ChinnoDog> being_green--
[04:21] <bts3685|vps> throwing_out_reusable_stuff--
[04:21] <pleia2> being_purple++
[04:21] <bts3685|vps> but then again, i'm also a cheap-ass. i'd rather spend time than money. hehe
[04:23] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: is that the opposite of being green? If it isn't we need a good word for not being green.
[04:23] <pleia2> evil, probably
[04:23] <bts3685|vps> aww. pleia2 beat me to it. :(
[04:24] <ChinnoDog> I want to counter that but I fear it would only lead to a senseless debate about global warming which I don't care to have
[04:24] <ChinnoDog> So, evil ti is.
[04:24] <ChinnoDog> it
[04:45] <bts3685|vps> guys
[04:45] <bts3685|vps> on 2012.03.14
[04:45] <bts3685|vps> remind me to buy ninjit.su
[04:46] <bts3685|vps> OH
[04:46] <bts3685|vps> OH WAIT
[04:46] <bts3685|vps> 04.19
[04:46] <bts3685|vps> I CAN BUY JIT.SU
[04:46] <bts3685|vps> nin.jit.su++
[04:53] <bts3685|vps> hmmm.. jyt.su is available...
[04:58] <bts3685|vps> aaaand now it isn't. ;)
[04:58] <bts3685|vps> nyn.jyt.su++
[04:59] <bts3685|vps> ju.jyt.su++
[08:44] <InHisName> @later SamuraiAlba "Did you check out this site on NEW bacon technology ?  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/readwriteweb_announces_major_investment.php"
[08:44] <PennBot> I don't have a clue!
[08:45] <InHisName> @help later
[08:45] <PennBot> InHisName: Error: There is no command "later".
[08:49] <InHisName> help later
[08:49] <InHisName> @help help
[08:49] <PennBot> InHisName: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[08:50] <InHisName> @help
[08:50] <PennBot> InHisName: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[08:50] <InHisName> @list commands
[08:50] <PennBot> InHisName: Error: 'commands' is not a valid plugin.
[08:50] <InHisName> @list
[08:50] <PennBot> InHisName: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, BadWords, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Filter, Games, Infobot, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Nickometer, Owner, Seen, Status, String, URL, Unix, Utilities, Weather, and Web
[08:51] <InHisName> @help Later
[08:51] <PennBot> InHisName: Error: There is no command "later".
[08:51] <InHisName> @Later
[08:51] <PennBot> I don't have a clue!
[08:52] <InHisName> @later stuff here and there
[08:52] <PennBot> I have no idea.
[09:23] <bts3685|vps> @later tell SamuraiAlba Did you check out this site on NEW bacon technology ?  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/readwriteweb_announces_major_investment.php (per InHisName)
[09:23] <PennBot> bts3685|vps: The operation succeeded.
[09:24] <bts3685|vps> ^