[00:02] <chris4585> wrst, somewhat good news, imo it is... 11.10 will hot ship gnome desktop
[00:03] <chris4585> I'm thinking they will put unity 2d instead of gnome, which is actually great I think
[00:04] <chris4585> it would be awesome if they had a desktop manager that would allow you to select what you want and don't want
[00:04] <chris4585> hrm I really need to learn python..
[01:54] <wrst> hmm chris4585 so you think it will be its own thing ? or still gnome based of sometype?
[03:48] <wrst> chris4585: it is getting pretty nice
[03:49] <chris4585lappy> wrst, yeah, right now I'm trying to beat my habit of scrolling on the desktop to go to the next desktop
[03:49] <chris4585lappy> just not possible with unity
[03:49] <wrst> hmm that stinks, i use that on my desktop but not on my laptop
[03:51] <chris4585lappy> well, I'm not a big fan of using the key combinations to do things, but on my laptop I have to
[03:51] <chris4585lappy> its just so much easy to scroll though
[03:51] <chris4585lappy> easier*
[03:52] <wrst> hmm wobbly windows workthats nice and to opacity on the bar is nice
[03:52] <wrst> yes whe i use a mouse i prefer the center scroll
[03:52] <chris4585lappy> the opacity is nice, but blur would be so much better
[03:52] <wrst> yes it would be but hopefully that will come
[03:52] <chris4585lappy> yep exactly
[03:54] <chris4585lappy> like if the trash can could be changed to a workspace area where i could scroll I'd be more than happy
[03:54] <wrst> yes i would like to be able to move the dock also
[18:50] <wrst> chris4585: messing with unity some... man i tell you i think its good
[18:51] <wrst> the window borders, panel, and dock i think aren't exactly matching up but i susect eventually its going to be a very beautiful desktop
[19:17] <chris4585> wrst, my thoughts exactly
[21:35]  * cyberanger wishes for a boxbuntu
[21:35] <wrst> yeah chris4585 its really a great looking desktop
[21:35] <cyberanger> at least it's easy to make a custom build
[21:35] <cyberanger> and lubuntu is coming along nicely
[21:35] <wrst> chris4585: the 2d deal where you are talking about qt based? still?
[21:37] <chris4585> wrst, hrm yeah? the 2d stuff is qt, but it works rather nice
[21:37] <chris4585> just as good as the normal unity imo
[21:43] <wrst> well i'm wondering chris4585 you said they will not be shipping at gnome could they be going to some sorta qt unity thing ?
[21:53] <chris4585> wrst, yeah thats what everyone is guessing for 11.10
[21:58] <wrst> hmm that will be interesting i thought shuttleworth had some liking towards qt
[22:08] <chris4585> yeah he does a lot apparently
[22:13] <wrst> well it iss  slicker i think