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lduroshello, where shall I write a comment about unity.ubuntu.com regarding a typo?01:04
lduroson the site?01:04
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didrocksgood morning07:51
oSoMoNgood morning08:01
davidcalleHi, good morning08:02
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htorquegood morning, everyone! is bug 750018 a bitesize one?09:05
ubot5Launchpad bug 750018 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "Insensitive menu painting issue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75001809:05
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delactrying to find out how to customize the Dash (menu opened from the top left Ubuntu logo). Trying to change the size and number of the icons as well as what applications are shown there.09:51
delacalso, does anyone know what is the name of the package that includes the "media apps" and "internet apps" Lenses?09:52
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kim0Hi folks, any idea why gnome-terminal is not beeping under unity10:41
coz_ good day all12:18
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kamstrupkenvandine: u-l-g says http://paste.ubuntu.com/589219/12:40
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rdalewhat's the best way to test unity-2d - does it run under xephyr?13:46
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om26erJohnLea_, Hi! quick questions, whats the minimal screen pixels unity is designed for? also bugs reported for 800*600 screens are 'won't fix'?14:17
om26erbug 749632 for reference14:18
ubot5Launchpad bug 749632 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash default shortcuts too big for eeepc701 screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74963214:18
lamalexhey om26er and cdbs14:44
cdbshi lamalex14:44
om26erhey lamalex14:44
cdbslamalex: good morning, how are you?14:44
lamalexnot bad, how were your weekend?14:45
cdbslamalex: my weekend was over on Friday :) well, it was rockin', you was yours?14:45
cdbss/you/how/14:45
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lamalexi seem to have managed to royall screw my compiz..15:19
lamalexnjpatel: what source file does the panel keybinding code live in?15:24
lamalexgrep doesn't find XK_F10 any where but in quicklist keynav code15:24
lamalexnevermind, foudn it15:30
om26ergord, Hi! could you please comment/look into bug 748588 ? as I believe the tiles part is yours ;)15:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 748588 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash - Icons inside tiles are not centered" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74858815:32
gordom26er, sure - looks like the highlight isn't centred but the contents are, i'll assign to me15:35
om26ergord, thanks :)15:36
tedgklattimer, Is there a way in EDS to make the "full day" events work nicely?  Things like birthdays and anniversaries?15:37
tedgklattimer, They all show up at 7pm the day before for me, which I'm gussing is midnight UTC.15:37
tedgklattimer, I'm going to say happy birthday to someone the day before and make a fool of myself soon.  Please save me!15:37
tedg;-)15:37
klattimertedg: it'd take a lot of investigation to figure out if it's possible15:41
klattimerI don't think there's something as simple as a "all day event flag" from what I've seen15:41
tedgklattimer, Ah, bummer.  I was hoping there was something.15:41
klattimertedg: just double checked and there's no e_cal_component_is_allday or similar :/15:42
klattimertedg, it's weird that it doesn't convert midnight to midnight local time15:44
klattimeri'm assuming all the others have the right time?15:44
tedgklattimer, I guess we'd have to figure how Evo. UI does the detection and do the same then.15:44
tedgklattimer, Yeah, that is weird.  I bet it put it in as UTC?  Not sure why.15:44
tedgklattimer, This is the auto generated birthday calendar by Evo15:44
klattimertedg: yeah, basically the API docs don't reflect reality, and the only relevant consumer is evolution15:44
klattimerso you have to 'use the source' to figure out everything :/15:45
aruizloicm, ping15:45
tedgklattimer, Yeah, it'd like odt and LO ;-)15:46
loicmhi aruiz15:46
aruizloicm, few questions, hi, are there any compiz bugs that are high prio and unnasigned?15:47
lamalexaruiz: launchpad is the easiest way to find that out15:48
lamalexaruiz: go to the advanced search and you should be able to limit your search to confirmed/triaged high pri bugs and probably just ones without assignees15:48
aruizlamalex, I've been told to specifically ask loicm about this :-)15:49
lamalexok15:49
aruizlamalex, thanks though15:50
loicmaruiz: :)15:55
loicmartfwo: lamalex is right15:55
artfwoabout what?15:55
loicmartfwo: sorry I meant aruiz ;)15:56
artfwooh :)15:56
loicmaruiz: feel free to pick anything you feel you can tackle that's high priority15:56
aruizloicm, okay15:59
aruizloicm, the other thing is, I wrote a test case for the transient window problem in the unity decorator15:59
aruizloicm, where should I commit that test case?15:59
delactrying to find out how to customize the Dash (menu opened from the top left Ubuntu logo). Trying to change the size and number of the icons as well as what applications are shown there.16:12
delacalso, does anyone know what is the name of the package that includes the "media apps" and "internet apps" Lenses?16:12
loicmaruiz: I'm gonna figure that out, what bug # is it?16:13
kenvandinekamstrup, ok... i have reproduced the gwibber lens problem we talked about this morning with some print statements in the code and the daemon running in a terminal16:13
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kenvandinenone of the functions that happen on the notify events are getting called16:14
kamstrupkenvandine: ?! that explains why the model is not populated :-)16:14
kenvandineindeed...16:15
kamstrupso somewhere something is racing on the "synchronized" signal16:15
aruizloicm, #73687816:15
kenvandinekamstrup, actually, on_section_change is getting called16:17
kenvandinenone of the others16:17
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kenvandinekamstrup, actually, i think that only gets called on active16:19
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loicmaruiz: feel free to push that in a branch under your launchpad user, we'll try to group all the tests in the same repo later on16:38
aruizloicm, sounds like a plan16:38
loicmaruiz: just link it to the bug request so that we can track it easily16:38
aruizloicm, should I branch the compiz repo in launchpad or the git repo in git.compiz.org?16:38
loicmaruiz: the launchpad one for now16:38
aruizgreat16:39
aruizwill do16:39
gordkenvandine, hey - any chance i could get more info on https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/746432 ?16:42
ubot5Ubuntu bug 746432 in unity "path to invalid pixbuf in a lens crashes unity" [High,Incomplete]16:42
kenvandinegord, i didn't get a stacktrace from it, weird on my laptop most of the unity crashes don't seem to dump crash files16:45
kenvandinegord, in my case it was one of the cached avatars from gwibber16:46
kenvandinegord, when i mentioned it to njpatel he wasn't surprised16:48
gordkenvandine, problem is right now i can't reproduce - no matter where i point the icon loading code. random 404's - broken links, wherever, it always works fine16:48
kenvandinegord, for file in ~/.cache/gwibber/avatars/*; do file $file;done |grep xHTML16:49
kenvandinei only got it from the cached files16:50
kenvandinenot from urls to the images16:50
kenvandineright now i have only one16:50
gordkenvandine, hrm - are you sending file uri's to unity in the gwibber lens. or direct filepaths?16:50
kenvandinefilepaths16:50
kenvandinewould rather use the cached images16:51
kenvandinewell, specifically i am calling the funtion in gwibber to cache them and produce the file path16:51
kenvandineso if it isn't already cached it gets cached and both the lens and gwibber will use it16:52
kenvandinegord, i have a file you can use to test16:52
kenvandinei clearly need to make gwibber smarter about it and not cache the 40416:52
kenvandinebut regardless we don't want that to crash unity16:53
kenvandinegord, http://ubuntuone.com/p/ksV/16:54
kenvandineyou can download that16:54
gordhrm, even using the cached 404's that i have from gwibber using your command, i don't get a crash =\16:54
kenvandinegord, well maybe it was fixed already :)16:54
davidcallekenvandine, for the record: I've just tried to make an icon from a bad url in the books lens, no crash.16:54
kenvandinethis bug was filed over a week ago :)16:55
kenvandinegord, and... now that i think of it... i do have that broken image cached and it isn't crashing for me16:55
gordkenvandine, awesome, sounds like its fixed :) i can't get it to crash just browsing in my gwibber lens either - got a fair few 404's cached16:56
gordlets keep an eye on it16:56
kenvandinegreat :)16:57
kenvandinei was just worried about random things lens developers do causing unity crashes16:59
delaccan anyone tell me where madia apps or internet apps Lenses are located? or what package they are part of?17:08
delacmedia*17:08
kim0Is gnome-terminal unable to beep under unity?17:14
delackim0: well, doesn't seem to beep. But it's not doing it on Maveric either.17:19
kim0delac: ah .. It does on classic (gnome) .. I just switched and noticed that17:20
kim0beeps are important to me since irssi notifies me with them17:21
kim0Think I'll file a bug then17:21
kim0delac: would you mind testing this one too please .. open "sound preferences", under Hardware tab, click "Test speakers" .. The test button also does not produce a beep sound17:23
delackim0: you have to enable the "Enable window and button sounds". Which is bit odd.17:24
delackim0: but that is how it works on Maveric too...17:25
delackim0: also, it doesnt seem to work either way if you push the testbuttons with enter or spacebar.17:26
kim0delac: not sure I understand you .. I checked "Enable window and button sounds" still not getting beeps from terminal and not from Test-sound button (mouse clicking, or spacebar/enter ) .. i.e. not getting beeps by any means17:29
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delackim0: do you have the "alert volume" ramped up?17:30
delackim0: and unmuted?17:30
kim0delac: where do I find that please17:31
delackim0: sam tab as "Enable window and buttons sounds"17:31
delackim0: same*17:31
kim0delac: oh the big volume bar :) yeah .. it's 90% and unmuted17:32
delackim0: well, I use it at 100. I think that means it as loud as other sounds17:34
kim0just dragged it to 100%17:34
kim0still not hearing beeps though17:34
delackim0: what about your sound theme (same tab)17:35
kim0Default17:35
delackim0:   but you do hear other sounds like musicplayer?17:36
kim0yeah sure :)17:40
kim0I'm no n00b hehe17:41
delackim0: well then I guess you do have a bug17:42
kim0filed thanks :)17:43
nhainesHmm, do we know why the emblem API was removed from Unity?17:57
kenvandinedbarth_, ^^17:57
kim0smspillaz: hi .. about that bug of not getting system-beeps .. not sure what you mean by "That's muted by pulseaudio" .. since I do hear beeps under gnome/classic-desktop18:01
smspillazkim0: yes, but you will here a "duuuuk" instead of a "BEEEP"18:03
smspillazkim0: because metacity is catching the beep x event and turning it into a libcanberra sound18:04
smspillazI wanted to implement something like this in a compiz plugin, but never had time to18:04
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kim0ah got you18:06
smspillazseriously the BEEEP would drive you insane18:06
smspillaz*hear18:07
smspillazwow, 1am is not good for my grammar18:07
kim0smspillaz: yeah I know .. I want the duuuk :)18:08
smspillazright18:08
smspillazpatches welcome!18:08
smspillazif I had time to write it I would18:08
smspillazbut a) I can't put it in core and b) it is too late in the cycle to be adding new plugins (there are logistical reasons we can't add new plugins right now)18:08
kim0smspillaz: does it have to be implemented as a compiz plugin ? can it be a separate app ? perhaps in python that way I might have chance to write it18:08
smspillazkim0: if you can write something that runs in the background and monitors for a specific event then asks libcanberra to play the duuk that would work18:09
smspillazlet me grab what the event is18:09
smspillazkim0: it's an xkb event so18:11
smspillazfirst you need to18:11
ionduck duck duck duck duck duck duck duck duck duck18:11
smspillaz    priv->xkbExtension = XkbQueryExtension (dpy, &xkbOpcode,18:11
ionhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S29A97UPyRM18:11
smspillaz    &priv->xkbEvent, &priv->xkbError,18:11
smspillaz    NULL, NULL);18:11
smspillaz    if (priv->xkbExtension)18:11
smspillaz    {18:11
kim0hehe18:11
smspillazXkbSelectEvents (dpy, XkbUseCoreKbd,18:11
smspillaz XkbBellNotifyMask | XkbStateNotifyMask,18:11
smspillaz XkbAllEventsMask);18:11
smspillaz    }18:11
smspillazand then18:11
smspillazin your event handler18:12
smspillazcheck if event->type == xkbEvent18:12
smspillazthen XkbAnyEvent *xkbv = (XkbAnyEvent *) event;18:12
smspillazif (xkbEvent->xkb_type == XkbBellNotify)18:12
smspillaz /* play your amazing libcanberra sound here */18:13
smspillaznot sure about how well that will go down in python18:13
kim0smspillaz: ok thanks for the help :) I'll keep that bug open till Onieric18:13
smspillazright, I'll discuss with with conor again at next uds18:14
kim0awesome .. thanks18:14
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ftasmspillaz|zzz, still there?18:19
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kamusinhello there, today I have upgraded my natty and for a unknown reason indicator-sound from banshee is not working any more.. I noticed that is looking for the old banshee.desktop file but I don't know how to tell indicator-sound please update your links so any help would be appreciated18:33
kamusinI have some debug messages at http://paste.ubuntu.com/589350/18:33
Omegadidrocks: This bug occurs for me, should I submit a new report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/74167418:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 741674 in unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Critical,Fix released]18:38
didrocksOmega: when does it occur?18:38
OmegaCold boot, on pressing the meta key.18:38
OmegaIt might be a racing condition, I've only had it happen at the start of the session, then it doens't happen anymore.18:39
didrocksOmega: and you can reproduce it reliably?18:39
OmegaIt has happened multiple times before.18:39
didrocksok, so please, report it with apport18:40
OmegaAlright.18:40
didrocksso that we can get the stacktrace and such18:40
didrocksand subscribe me18:40
OmegaMhm18:40
didrocksOmega: thanks :)18:41
Omegahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/75053218:42
ubot5Error: Launchpad(https://launchpad.net) bug 750532 not found18:42
didrocksOmega: awesome, let's wait for the retracer18:44
didrocksok, seems a timeout not removed, weird on start18:44
OmegaI hope this gets fixed soon :)18:44
didrocksOmega: the thing it's hard to know which timer is the guilty one :)18:46
didrocksOmega: but I'll look again if we still have some connected18:46
didrocksOmega: do not hesitate to ping again after next release if it still occurs18:46
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Omegadidrocks: Alright, thanks!18:47
didrocksOmega: thanks to you :)18:48
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jcastrokamstrup: around?20:26
kamstrupjcastro: yes20:26
jcastrook so the order of lenses vs. apps in the dash20:26
jcastrois that something that will be natty fixed or should we start telling lens authors to not connect to the dash20:26
jcastroI'd rather have it be annoying that we make you click on a lens explicitly than spamming askubuntu, google lens, gwibber, and whatver everytime I do super+"chrome"20:27
kamstrupjcastro: i don't know really - this is a neil-question really20:27
jcastrook, I'll catch him tomorrow20:28
jcastrokamstrup: the horiz view looks amazing btw, the AU lens looks really sharp now20:28
kamstrupjcastro: but I also think we should try and convince lens authors to not hook into the global dash search20:28
kenvandinekamstrup, on a related note, what is you hack for limiting the search frequency?20:28
kenvandinea sleep or something?20:28
kamstrupkenvandine: free/thaw_notify()20:29
jcastrokamstrup: ok, so you'd be fine with us just telling people on the wiki, don't do this pls.20:29
kamstrupkenvandine: freeze i mean20:29
kenvandinejcastro, my only complaint with the horizontal view is the left to right reading20:29
kamstrupjcastro: I think so yes20:29
kenvandineit feels weird in the gwibber case20:29
kenvandinekamstrup, got an example?20:29
jcastroit's   method SetGlobalSearch right?20:30
kenvandinefreeze with a sleep or something?20:30
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kamstrupkenvandine: look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-place-applications/trunk/view/head:/src/daemon.vala#L398 and then also at the end of that method20:31
jcastrodavidcalle: do you register books with global dash?20:31
jcastrokenvandine: same question20:31
jcastrokamstrup: ahh, ShowGlobal=true|false (defaults to true) in the .place file?20:32
kamstrupjcastro: yeah I think so20:32
kenvandinejcastro, i do20:35
kenvandinei kind of like it there actually20:35
kenvandinebut i can see your point20:35
jcastrowell20:35
jcastroglobally things should20:35
jcastrolike, a people place perhaps20:36
kenvandinei am thinking about making it limit the search results by media type or something though20:36
jcastrobut like, every time the user uses the dash you'll do a search in gwibber20:36
kenvandineif i can find a sane way to do that20:36
htorquehey guys, bug 750018 -> maybe a bitesize one?20:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 750018 in unity (Ubuntu) "Insensitive menu painting issue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75001820:36
jcastrokenvandine: that would be great20:36
jcastrobecause if the user gets a result for every lens they install they will quickly realize that they don't want them installed if they clutter up the dash every time they are trying to launch something.20:37
kenvandinelike maybe just return results for images, videos, and links20:39
kenvandinesomething like that20:39
kenvandinebut actually i would prefer that be integrated in the files place20:39
kenvandineif you are looking for images, included images from the gwibber stream for images as well20:39
kenvandinethese are some of the things i want to talk about at UDS20:39
jcastrokenvandine: me too20:40
jcastrokenvandine: ok I'll tell stefano to just shut off our lens in global20:40
jcastroI will go for less spam for 11.04 and we'll sort something for 11.1020:40
kenvandinejcastro, so right now the gwibber lense only searches on the persons name in the dash20:41
kenvandinei think20:41
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jcastrokenvandine: ok and is it being shipped ootb?20:46
kenvandineno20:49
kenvandinewell, not in natty20:49
kenvandineenabled in the dash though... for now20:49
lamalexhey what gives, i thought closing banshee wasn't supposed to stop playback21:04
davidcallejcastro "do you register books with global dash?" I do, but I've limited the search to a simple google books search, without any features.21:17
jcastrook21:18
nmarquesanyone who can help me with a question involving transmission and libappindicator implementation ?21:46
AndreaAzzaronenmarques, i can try ;)21:47
nmarquesI've built transmission with libappindicator support... currently if indicator-applet is on the panel... it uses the indicator... if the indicator-applet isn't on the panel it falls back to notification area, and everything is properly working except for one thing21:49
nmarquesthe icon is borged :/21:49
nmarquesit shows the default icon for 'missing icons'21:49
AndreaAzzaronebut you are not unity? right? :)21:49
nmarquesGNOME2 :)21:49
nmarquesmy issue if that if I should patch this for transmission (to use default icon) and send upstream21:50
AndreaAzzaroneborged? i can't translate this word21:50
AndreaAzzaronei am not English sorry21:51
nmarquessry... I mean the icon is missing :)21:51
nmarquesso it uses the icon theme icon for 'missing icons'21:51
nmarquesfor all the rest it is working properly21:51
jcastrodavidcalle: whoa, I see your lens has a keyboard shortcut?21:52
AndreaAzzaronemmm...21:52
AndreaAzzaronenmarques, i am not the right person to solve this problem21:52
nmarquesif it's using the indicator applet, the icon works nice ;)21:52
AndreaAzzaronenmarques, but i have made once a time a simple app21:53
AndreaAzzaronenmarques, thas works with libappindicator21:53
jcastrostefano-palazzo: also ....21:53
jcastrostefano-palazzo: I think we should snag super-u as a keyboard shortcut21:53
davidcallejcastro, B for Books21:53
jcastrostefano-palazzo: books snagged super-b, seems to make sense to me21:53
jcastroright21:53
stefano-palazzojcastro, oh yes, that would be pretty great.21:53
nmarquesAndreaAzzarone, no worries, I'll just try to patch it and send it upstream, because this feature (fallback from appindicator to standard notification) is something that can be very interesting for me21:54
jcastrostefano-palazzo: that would make not being in the home dash tolerable if we at least gave people a shortcut key21:54
stefano-palazzojcastro, you forgot to tell me that I'm on OMG!Ubuntu! again (:21:54
AndreaAzzaronenmarques, and i had not this problem! Maybe try changing the extension of the icon21:54
jcastroheh21:55
stefano-palazzoDaveDavenport, have you played around with the blekko API yet?21:55
jcastrostefano-palazzo: should I file a bug on the keyboard shortcut?21:55
jcastrostefano-palazzo: you're looking for davidcalle21:55
stefano-palazzooh, sorry Dave21:55
stefano-palazzojcastro, yes please, that'd be good. I'll grep the books source as soon as I'm done with my fooling around programming21:56
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, have you played around with the blekko API yet?21:56
kenvandinefreeze_notify and thaw_notify is awesome21:57
nmarqueskenvandine, jcastro : good evening :)21:58
jcastrohi nmarques!21:58
stefano-palazzojcastro, I just checked in the keyboard-shortcut, without testing it. Hope it works (:22:19
jcastroheh22:19
stefano-palazzojcastro, is there a place I should put it, to avoid conflicts?22:21
stefano-palazzolike somewhere in the wiki22:21
davidcallestefano-palazzo, for the record: when two places share the same shortcut, the first in the launcher wins.22:28
stefano-palazzothanks, that's good to know22:30
DaekdroomDoes anyone here know if there's a bug report on qt apps not recovering their menus after unity-panel-service restarts/crashes?22:57
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