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ScottKclaydoh: I've got a Latitude D430 (same as D630, but smaller screen) - it's probably the best laptop I've ever owned.04:04
claydohScottK: nice :) I think I got a deal on it, haven;t seen any go for what I paid. I am very happy with it so far, tho 2 more gb ram would be sweet04:09
ScottKYup.  That's my major complaint at this point.04:10
ScottKAs long as I keep the number of browser windows under control it's OK.04:10
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c2taruncan anyone please look at this error https://i68121578.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/68121578/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.kdebindings_4%3A4.6.2-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=4dcdf2540060f046fac2fa45925310be05:05
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bambeemorning08:43
bambee_quassel bugs... I just see 8 users on #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-devel, however with webchat.freenode.net it works just fine o_O09:22
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bambee_(or freenode I don't know)09:23
tsimpsonbambee: netsplits09:27
tsimpsonwebchat and your client were connected to different servers, which wern't connected, so wern't sharing user lists09:28
bambeetsimpson: ok09:28
bambeeinteresting09:28
* bambee needs a lot of coffee anyway :P09:30
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Riddellgood morning10:16
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stikonasRiddell: systemsettings-kde3 looks unmaintained in kde repository (since Kubuntu moved to KDE4), so I moved it to tags/unmaintained/3/11:26
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Riddellstikonas: fine with me, I don't think I even knew there was such a branch11:28
stikonasit was unmaintained for maybe 4 years...11:28
afiestasRiddell: pingpongping11:38
Riddellhi afiestas 11:41
afiestasRiddell: BlueDevil RC has been tagged and the tarbal is being uploaded to all mirrors11:46
afiestasin 3 days (the 6th) we will release the final version just in time I think11:46
afiestasis that ok?11:46
steveireRiddell: steveire@kubuntu.org should work by now, right?11:47
Riddellafiestas: lovely11:49
Riddellsteveire: I believe so, it should forward to whatever LP considers your primary address11:49
afiestasRiddell: oks, one small question (tricky one :p)11:49
afiestasto be able to release 1.1 before 6th, we hold back some small improvements that were not finished11:50
steveireRiddell: Ok, not working so I'll get in touch with rt@ubuntu11:50
afiestasthe idea is to make small updates (aka, 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3) containing this changes11:50
afiestasis that acceptable for Kubuntu?11:51
Riddellafiestas: yes that would work11:51
afiestasI'm talking about small small features such being able to connect to a device from the KCM (just a button)11:51
Riddellas long as it's clear to packagers they are new feature releases (even if minor features)11:51
afiestasor being able to share a folder from properties dialog (just a plugin which creates a symlink) etc11:52
yofelsteveire: it took almost 3 days for me until @kubuntu.org activated11:52
afiestasRiddell: so these new releases won't get into Kubuntu stable updates?11:53
jussisteveire: can take up to a week to activate11:55
Riddellafiestas: new releases usually don't anyway, they would go in the updates PPA or in backports11:56
steveireOk. I'll see what rt says and then fix the wiki. It says two days there11:59
afiestasRiddell: then, patch releases will contain only bug fixes (1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3) while versions such (1.2, 1.3, 1.4) will contain these small improvements12:01
jussihrm, my volume control has a huge lag (~30 sec) - anything I can do to debug and help peoples find out the cause? 12:02
yofeljussi: do you have a huge file in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmix/profiles/ ?12:03
jussiyofel: jussi@squirrel:~/.kde/share/apps/kmix/profiles$ ls -la12:03
jussitotal 208412:03
jussidrwx------ 2 jussi jussi    4096 2011-03-02 16:04 .12:03
jussidrwx------ 3 jussi jussi    4096 2011-03-02 11:30 ..12:03
jussi-rw-r--r-- 1 jussi jussi     492 2011-03-02 16:04 PulseAudio.Capture_Devices.1.default.xml12:03
jussi-rw-r--r-- 1 jussi jussi     411 2011-03-02 16:04 PulseAudio.Capture_Streams.1.default.xml12:04
jussi-rw-r--r-- 1 jussi jussi     484 2011-03-02 16:04 PulseAudio.Playback_Devices.1.default.xml12:04
jussi-rw-r--r-- 1 jussi jussi 2109692 2011-04-01 16:09 PulseAudio.Playback_Streams.1.default.xml12:04
jussiwhoops, bit of a large paste ther12:04
jussibut yes.12:04
yofelhm, not that large, but could be same as lp 72088212:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 720882 in kdemultimedia (Ubuntu) "Kmix causes my computer cpu to use 100% mainly in core 0, but both cores get affected." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72088212:04
yofelI once had a >100MB PulseAudio.Playback_Streams.1.default.xml in there which made kmix practically useless, I purged the directory, now I don't have any files, but kmix still seems to work fine...12:05
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jussilol. I just renamed the large file, and now it works. heh, thanks yofel12:07
yofelapachelogger_: got and idea about that? ^12:07
jussias I have said previously, pulse is of the devil :P12:08
apachelogger_butterfly12:10
apachelogger_yofel: I think coling fixed that or something12:10
apachelogger_best ask him12:10
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* steveire reboots installs natty on primary workstation. Wish me luck...12:17
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jussiHow borked are things currently on natty?  are we expecting major borkage still?12:32
jussioh, and does kubuntu have an equivalent of update-manager?12:32
yofelupgrades are done by do-release-upgrade, regular updates are done with kpk AFAIK, and natty works mostly fine for me12:35
yofelapachelogger: hm, thanks, I'll poke later then12:36
Riddelljussi: beta is reasonable beta quality, no major borkage.  kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade runs the correct upgrade command13:02
jussiRiddell: ahh, thanks!13:03
davmor2Riddell: No, your just not trying to break it hard enough :D13:03
Riddellsteveire: how did it go?13:05
steveireRiddell: No annoying dialogs yet from nepomuk, but one of my screens doesn't work.13:06
steveireI seem to have yofels attention in +1 though :)13:06
skfinjussi: You have a birthday now?13:18
skfinMust be an old topic or something13:22
skfinAh, last eveining, dont know about timezone13:23
skfinAnyway, jussi, happy birthday :P13:24
jussi:D13:25
jussithanks skfin, yes its today13:25
jussioooh, fun! 13:25
jussiAn unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:13:25
jussiE:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages13:25
skfinActutually, hyvää syntymäpäivää jussi :D13:27
jussioooh, kiitos!13:27
skfinApril is best month to have a birthday, lol.13:27
jussiskfin: you too?13:27
skfinYea :)13:27
skfin16th13:28
jussiskfin: my family has loads of aprilites - my brother on the 3rd, me 4th, brother 6th, mother 13th... :D13:28
skfinLol :D13:28
* apachelogger once had birthday in april13:30
apacheloggerdidn't like it ... weather was crap13:30
apacheloggerjust like now13:30
* apachelogger kisses the sun goodbye and welcomes them silly clouds13:30
apacheloggerthe cloud is everywhere, scary13:30
* apachelogger expects google docs to fall out of it13:30
apacheloggermy13:30
apacheloggerI think I had too much coffee13:31
skfinMe too13:33
skfinIn both ways, I think that you had too much coffee, and I had too much coffee13:34
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bambeeRiddell: I have read your email, phonon and qzeitgeist are on revu14:10
bambeehey btw14:10
bambeeI doubt about phonon symbols files but the rest should be okay14:10
Riddellbambee: great,I'll look at them shortly14:11
bambeeyou already have looked at qzeitgeist14:12
bambeeRiddell: then I think I will upload them to kubuntu-ninjas/ppa and then ask  FFes14:13
Riddellbambee: go ahead14:21
bambeeRiddell: ok14:21
steveireThis pim stuff is a bit of a mess.14:35
steveireWe fixed a bunch of things wrt how applications use akonadi in the 4.5 cycle14:35
steveireLess annoying dialogs.14:35
steveireMight need to find some relevant patches and backport.14:36
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steveireMight even be a small patch to just KAddressBook... Will investigate later14:39
Riddellsteveire: bug 740488 is the one I believe is causing a default akonadi error box on new user first kontact startup14:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 740488 in akonadi (Ubuntu Natty) "Akonadi complains about duplicated agent identifiers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74048814:39
Riddellsteveire: we also have the issue that it doesn't work on the live CD because nepomuk isn't running there14:40
Riddellsteveire: any other issues, feel free to let us know and proposed patches14:40
steveireRiddell: That's not the cause of the one I saw I think, but we'll get a 1.5.2 release out for that soon. I'll get a patch together for the issue I saw. We can just make KAddressBook call some kdepimlibs4.6 API if built against 4.614:46
steveireRiddell: kontact4.4 doesn't seem to be able to use kwallet 4.6. Known issue?14:51
Riddellsteveire: not by me14:53
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steveireOk.14:55
steveireHmm, now it works...14:56
RiddellseaLne: how's your kontact experience in natty?14:57
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Riddellsteveire: I do get this kwallet error http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kmail1.png15:05
Riddelland then this one "There have been repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An application may be misbehaving."15:06
steveireYes, I got those as well15:08
steveireCould it be secret service stuff or polkit?15:08
steveireI'll investigate I guess.15:08
Riddellsteveire: kwallet isn't polkit related so I guess it's an issue in kwallet 4.615:10
Riddellsteveire: the edit menu has an elipsis after it "Edit..." any idea what that's about?15:10
steveireNope. I don't see that here.15:11
ScottKRiddell: I get the misbehaving one, but yet the mail goes through.  No idea what causes it.15:18
seaLnei've had the wallet stuff to15:19
seaLnebut generally things have been fine recently15:19
seaLneScottK: are you having to specify the password and it saving in the kmail config instead of wallet and maybe not noticing?15:22
ScottKIt's whatever I did years ago when I set kmail up on this laptop.15:23
RiddellI can't find my password in kwallet or kmail config files, but it does connect without asking when I start up15:27
seaLneRiddell: btw have you heard of anyone having problems with no longer being able to use hdmi or vga outputs on a laptop (intel) as i haven't been able to find any bugs and not entirely sure where to look, it happened around the time i got back india15:28
seaLnexrandr doesn't list them anymore15:29
RiddellseaLne: I'm afraid I haven't15:29
Riddellasking X people would be the way I'd go, #ubuntu-x15:29
seaLnei guess in some ways its good that its not a general problem15:30
Riddelldepends from who's point of view15:32
seaLneother peoples15:32
bambeeRiddell: Is it possible for a beginner to subcribe to the kde-packagers mailing-list ? I would like to package kdebase but I cannot since I have not access to its tarball (I reported a bug to sysadmin@kde.org) 16:04
bambeeIf it's too complicated and not possible, I understand16:04
seaLneRiddell: as janc kindly pointed out an upgrade had helpfully uninstalled the intel driver so i was using vesa... grr16:05
ScottKseaLne: That's worth a bug as it shouldn't do that.16:05
Riddellbambee: that doesn't need you to be on kde-packagers, that needs access to ktown16:06
Riddellbambee: for which I need your ssh key16:07
seaLneits more a warning about don't upgrade your system when have a sleep not noticing what apt is saying it is about to do16:07
bambeeRiddell: see lp:bambi and upload the two keys (desktop and laptop)16:08
Riddellbambee: ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org16:09
ScottKseaLne: True, but we have update-manager specifically to help avoid problematic scenarios.16:09
bambeeRiddell: it works just fine :)16:09
rbelem_hi Riddell :-)16:09
Riddellhi rbelem_, I added filesharing to the seeds16:10
rbelem_Riddell, do you have some free time to take a look on those patches? :-)16:11
rbelem_Riddell, cool :-)16:11
seaLneis it inttended for use during normal updates? i've only ever used it for version changes16:11
rbelem_Riddell, did you see a bug for the filesharing?16:11
Riddellrbelem_: mm, sorry haven't been able to look at the patches yet, do you have a packaging branch with them in?16:12
Riddellrbelem_: no I didn't see a bug for the filesharing16:12
seaLneScottK: been happily using apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade for nearly 10 years now :)16:13
ScottKOK.16:13
ScottKWell then you do have to pay  attention.  Fair enough.16:13
rbelem_Riddell, not yet. do i have rights to branch?16:14
rbelem_https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35235816:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 352358 in kdebase (Ubuntu) ""Configure file sharing" button doesn't do anything" [Undecided,Triaged]16:14
seaLneis pa setting volume to 0 each time kde starts still normal?16:15
ScottKNo.16:15
Riddellrbelem_: the fun thing about distributed revision control is anyone can branch, bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu, edit, bzr add <files>, bzr commit, bzr push lp:~<lp-login>/kdelibs/<branchname>  then ask for a merge16:17
rbelem_cool :-)16:17
afiestasRiddell: http://svn.muiline.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/obex-data-server/tags/REL-0_4_6/16:19
afiestas(0.4.6 is available)16:19
Riddellafiestas: anything new?16:19
afiestashttp://tadas.dailyda.com/blog/2011/04/04/obex-data-server-0-4-6/16:20
afiestasnope afaik16:20
steveireDamn. Just realized I've installed 32bit kubuntu on a system that I should have installed the 64 bit system on16:21
steveireThere's no upgrade path apart from reinstall, right?16:22
Riddellsteveire: right16:22
bambeeOops... qzeitgeist and phonon are badly versionned ... 16:23
* bambee blames himself16:23
Riddellbambee: how so?16:23
bambeeI will fix it o_O16:23
bambeeRiddell: I just forgot ~ppa116:23
bambeefor both16:24
* steveire wgets http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso 16:24
Riddellbambee: hard to fix that if a larger version has been uploaded.  did you do the FFe bugs?16:26
Riddellsteveire: unless you're wanting to do daily live CD testing it might be more reliable to get beta 116:26
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bambeeRiddell: I can upload ~ppa1 and when the build is finished I can remove the other .. nop ?16:46
Riddellbambee: "nop"?16:46
bambeeRiddell: I will report bugs for FFe now16:46
bambeeRiddell: well skip the "nop"16:47
ScottKWhen I search for kontact in kicker, I get two entries.  Anyone else?17:01
Riddellyes17:02
ScottKSeems like a bug ...17:02
Riddellthe other one is the kcontrol module17:02
Riddellfor some reason kcontrol modules were added to kickoff searching17:02
ScottKAt the very least it ought to have a different name ..17:04
ScottKkontact control or something.17:05
Riddellit's not even used in system settings17:05
Riddellwould be good to find out where it is used before renaming17:06
ScottKCertainly.17:06
c2tarunshadeslayer: hi, are you participating in GSoC?17:36
shadeslayerc2tarun: i hope to, yes17:37
c2tarunshadeslayer: great :) can you please suggest me some project which I could join (considering the fact that I am new :()17:37
c2tarunshadeslayer: I have been looking on this list http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas but failed to find any :(17:38
shadeslayerc2tarun: the question would be, what are you interested in17:38
c2tarunshadeslayer: any kind of development related to Qt/C++, I dont know anything more specific.17:39
shadeslayererm .. well, for eg. i'm interested in Telepathy and collaborative services, that's why i've applied for telepathy17:40
shadeslayerso if you're intrested in say KDE Multimedia, look at Amarok/Phonon17:40
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c2tarunshadeslayer: I thought first but I guess most guys better and experienced than me are interested in multimedia so I droped that plan :( but I would love to join anything related to cryptography :) is there anything?17:42
steveirewhich package provides vim syntax highlighting?17:43
shadeslayerhmm.. no idea on that, but it's not necessary that only ideas on that page are valid, you can submit your ideas as well17:43
apacheloggervim?! :P17:43
shadeslayerhehe17:43
c2tarunwhat about vim?17:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: neat application .. i thought you were mentoring this time?17:43
* apachelogger did not yet actually apply :P17:44
steveirehttp://dpaste.org/Xwq1/ ?17:44
steveireAh, vim inded17:45
shadeslayerah17:45
apacheloggersteveire: did you install vim? 17:45
steveireindeed*17:45
steveireapachelogger: I did now :)17:45
apacheloggervi != vim :P17:45
steveireshadeslayer: So how can we update the kdepim 4.6 packages?17:45
shadeslayersteveire: via the experimental PPA?17:45
steveireIf I were to get involved in such a thing for example17:45
steveireAre amazon cloud instances used for that these days?17:46
steveireFor building the packages I mean17:46
shadeslayersteveire: well .. sure, but you can build them on your machine as well17:47
c2tarunshadeslayer: I just asked for one project and mentor rejected :(17:49
shadeslayerc2tarun: i really can'17:49
shadeslayer*i really can't advice ...17:49
apacheloggerwhat is this about?17:57
bambeeRiddell: FFe bugs have been opened17:58
Riddellsteveire: you want more up to date packages to be available to users?17:59
Riddellbambee: numbers?17:59
nixternalScottK: /usr/share/kde4/services/kontactconfig.desktop is the 2nd kontact entry in krunner/kickoff18:00
Riddellnixternal: but where is it used?18:00
bambeebug 75048018:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 750480 in Ubuntu "Feature Freeze Exception request for Phonon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75048018:00
bambeebug 75047318:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 750473 in Ubuntu "Feature Freeze Exception request for QZeitgeist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75047318:00
Riddellnixternal: and while you're around, do you have a reference for the ktorrent bug you mentioned a while ago?18:00
nixternalRiddell: it isn't used anywhere that i can see. all it contains in the app is 'Always start with plugin:'18:01
nixternali would have to search for that ktorrent reference18:01
Riddellsteveire: can you confirm /usr/share/kde4/services/kontactconfig.desktop isn't used, can we delete it to stop it cluttering up kickoff?18:01
nixternalthough, i am using the latest ktorrent, and it still seems to freeze when it checks storage space. even if i disable it, it still freezes momentarily18:01
Riddellnixternal: oh, doesn't sound like like we should do the upgrade then18:02
Riddellneversfelde_: what's the state of kdegraphics 4.6.2?18:03
nixternali don't see where this kontactconfig is being used at all. don't see it is system settings and i definitely don't see it in kickoff anywhere18:09
Riddellnixternal: you have to search for it in kickoff and it only shows up in 4.618:12
nixternalyeah, you get the same results in both kickoff & krunner18:12
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nixternali don't see the purpose of it though18:12
nixternalall it allows you to do is change the default startup plugin for kontact.18:12
nixternalwhich is an option in kontact settings, but i don't see where to get to it other than via kontact itself. ie. it isn't in system settings anywhere that i can see.18:13
Riddellsounds like it can go then18:16
nixternali would check upstream and make sure they don't have some cryptic setting location or some crap first. though i don't even see the reason at first glance of why this would even be a necessary config outside of kontact settings itself18:17
Riddellbest wait for steveire to answer then18:19
c2tarunRiddell: I tried hard but still didn't find anything for GSoC so right now I am free, :( is there any work?18:22
Riddellc2tarun: 4.6.2 needs packaging https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging18:23
bambeeRiddell: I cannot connect to ktown from my desktop18:23
c2tarunRiddell: sure I'll take it :)18:23
Riddellc2tarun: want to take kdeedu?  I havn't started yet18:24
c2tarunRiddell: yup :)18:24
ScottKJust did a maverick -> natty kubuntu-desktop upgrade with no file conflicts in a chroot.18:24
c2tarunRiddell: can you please start and ec2, I am free tonight, may be I can work on more than one packages.18:25
Riddellbambee: try now18:25
bambeeRiddell: it works, thanks18:25
Riddellc2tarun: ec2-50-17-106-72.compute-1.amazonaws.com18:26
c2tarunRiddell: thanks :)18:27
c2tarunRiddell: I am getting Permission denied (publickey). why so?18:28
c2tarunRiddell: ping18:31
Riddellc2tarun: hmm, dunno, I'm locked out too18:31
Riddelllet me set up another18:31
c2tarunsure18:31
DaskreechRiddell: ping, Can KUbuntu enter GSoC by itself?18:33
tazzDaskreech, i think the org would be ubuntu18:34
Riddellc2tarun: ubuntu@ec2-50-17-164-214.compute-1.amazonaws.com18:34
tazzand kubuntu projects would come under the same umbrella.18:34
RiddellDaskreech: mentoring organisations were decided some time ago18:34
tazzbut sadly ubuntu did not get selected this year.18:34
tazzso maybe next time.18:34
* c2tarun taking kdeedu18:35
Riddellc2tarun: please update the wiki page, remove my name add yours18:36
c2tarunok18:36
DaskreechRiddell: Not this year. Just in general18:37
Daskreechtazz: well Ubuntu hardly gets selected they don't seem to want to participate very much18:37
RiddellDaskreech: theoretically yes18:38
Daskreechok18:39
bambeewhy kdebase is suffixed with "a" ?, ie  4:4.6.1a18:40
bambee(the source package)18:40
Riddellit means upstream updated the tar before release18:40
Riddellso don't use an a for 4.6.218:40
bambeeok18:40
apacheloggerlook at me, I am flying18:42
Riddelloh good, apachelogger has discovered python at last18:43
* apachelogger loves the pythonz18:45
apacheloggerI should write a book about it18:45
c2tarunRiddell: kdeedu has no watch file, from where can I get its latest version?18:49
Riddellc2tarun: from ktown18:51
c2tarunwhat is ktown?18:52
Riddellc2tarun: it's the KDE server that hosts the tars for new releases, you have access from the last packaging you did, ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org18:52
c2tarunRiddell: what do you mean by I have access from the last packaging I did?18:54
Riddellc2tarun: from whatever packaging you did of 4.6.1 or 4.6.018:56
Riddellbambee: qzeitgeist and phonon uploaded, thanks for packaging18:57
Riddellphonon uploaded without qzeitgeist (too late for new untested features which bring in new packages to the CD)18:57
Riddellbut the library is there for others to use18:57
c2tarunRiddell: I got what is ktown, but I am still now getting how to get a tarball from there, googling it didn't helped18:57
Riddellc2tarun: scp ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org:stable/4.6.2/src/kdeedu* .18:58
Riddelldoing that on your machine will copy it to your machine18:58
Riddellthen to the equivalent to copy it to the ec2 machine18:58
c2tarunokay....18:58
bambeeRiddell: yw :)18:59
c2tarunRiddell: I am getting permission denied18:59
bambeeRiddell: I don't understand... will phonon work without qzeitgeist ?19:00
Riddellbambee: it'll work it just won't do whatever magic qzeitgeist added19:00
bambeeohh ok19:00
bambeeI am just curious :)19:00
Riddellc2tarun: your ssh key is in the authorised file19:02
Riddellc2tarun: you won't be able to log in from the ec2 machine19:02
c2tarunohh.....19:02
c2tarunRiddell: what if I copy ~/.ssh to ec2? will this work?19:03
Riddellc2tarun: yes but then you have to make sure you take away my access so I can't get your private key19:03
c2tarunRiddell: is there any other way to access ktown from that ec2?19:04
Riddellno19:04
c2tarunRiddell: hmm... ok then how can I take away the access?19:04
Riddellremove all but your key from ~/.ssh/authorized_keys19:04
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neversfelde_Riddell: just returned home. kdegraphics ftbfs yesterday19:30
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apacheloggerkde svn 120859819:51
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1208598&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 120859819:51
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bambeeapachelogger: ping20:12
bambeephonon/mediasource.h includes "mrl.h" , however it is not installed20:12
bambeesee https://i68234755.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/68234755/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.kdebase_4%3A4.6.2-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=d3188c19a3ef03d05f00e1480f178d7b20:13
bambeeit fails only on natty, using phonon 4.4.4 it builds fine20:13
apacheloggerI got a highlight20:13
apacheloggerbambee: sure it gets installed20:14
bambeeso where is it ?20:14
apacheloggerand url refuses to work20:14
bambeeapachelogger: kubuntu-ninjas/ppa => kdebase20:15
bambeeohh20:16
bambeewait20:16
apacheloggeras I said20:16
apachelogger-- Installing: /build/buildd/phonon-4.7.0really4.5.0/debian/tmp/usr/include/phonon/mrl.h20:16
bambeeapachelogger: feel free to blame me xD20:17
apacheloggerdidn't I just do that? :P20:17
bambee:P20:21
rbelemRiddell, just requested merge :-)20:37
bambeeapachelogger: could you bump phonon for me into archives ? use this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/589400/20:39
apacheloggerbut I am the drunk!20:40
apacheloggerbambee: can I please get a debdiff of that20:41
bambeeapachelogger: it's a debdiff20:41
apacheloggersrsly20:41
* apachelogger never noticed the diff parts20:41
apacheloggeroh wellz20:41
bambee:)20:41
* apachelogger starts singing a song20:42
apacheloggerI do not have cdbs installllled20:43
apacheloggeroh please go die you silly cdbsssss20:43
apacheloggerI do not like you no moar20:43
apacheloggeroh oh oh20:43
bambeelol20:43
apacheloggercdbs, you are the craps20:43
apacheloggeruh uh uh20:43
apacheloggerdh rulez20:43
bambee666 cdbs 66620:44
bambee:P20:44
bambee:\20:44
apacheloggerup we go and down we fall20:45
apacheloggerdo we get fezes for uds?20:46
* apachelogger makes that a session requirement20:46
apacheloggerRiddell: surely easy to get them these days?20:47
* apachelogger roflz from the golden girls20:47
Riddellfezes?20:47
apacheloggerthem jokes are killin me20:47
apacheloggerRiddell: multiple fez20:47
Riddelldo we have a paticular need?20:48
apacheloggerhttp://doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/11-Doctor-Fez-570x321.jpg20:48
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah, they are cool20:48
apacheloggeralso if you want a more sensible one I could tell you about how such "tokens" help establish a sense of unity within a community and blah20:49
apacheloggerthough surely the fact that they are cool is less boring ^^20:50
bambeelol20:50
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apacheloggerin sicily we used to wash our dishes in the river [...] we used to beat them against the rocks21:18
apacheloggerepic21:18
steveire_Hi. I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/experimental/ubuntu natty main and upgraded, giving me kdepim4.6. How can I now return to kdepim4.4 for testing?21:22
apacheloggerthere is a tool called ppa-purge, google knows more21:25
apacheloggerbasically it will remove every package you installed from a ppa21:25
apachelogger(a specific ppa)21:25
ulysseswill kdepim 4.6 ever release?:P21:29
apacheloggersure, in 10 years21:29
steveire_I must be doing something wrong: http://dpaste.com/528747/21:29
apacheloggerand even then the release date will be pulled back and forth21:30
apacheloggersteveire: you need the specify the ppa21:30
apacheloggerppa-purge kubuntu-experimental I suppose21:30
steveire_aptitude still knows the version upgraded from: 21:32
steveire_[UPGRADE] kaddressbook 4:4.4.10-0ubuntu3 -> 4:4.5.94.1-0ubuntu1~ppa321:32
steveire_Can I somehow use that to reinstall the old version?21:32
* apachelogger is drunk and doesnt know a thing21:33
Riddellsteveire_: you can just remove all the akonadi packages and kdepimlibs then remove the PPA and reinstall21:38
Riddellbut the ppa purge stuff probably sounds better21:39
steveire_Riddell: ppa-purge seems to do the trick21:39
steveire_sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental worked21:39
neversfeldeRiddell: I am busy tonight, seems that there is no chance to give kdegraphics a second try before tomorrow evening21:42
steveire_How do I make ctrl_alt_backspace work again?21:42
steveire_Sorry, I'll google it21:42
steveire_No dontzap package anymore? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html21:44
apacheloggersteveire: in kubuntu you can do that via the kde keyboard config thingy21:52
steveire_I can't find where...21:57
apacheloggerlet me try21:58
apacheloggerso21:58
apacheloggeryou open systemsettings21:58
apacheloggerthere you go to input devices21:58
apacheloggerthen to keyboard21:58
apacheloggerand then to the advanced tab21:58
apacheloggerand somewhere aroudn the middle is an entry that goes like kill the crapy X server21:59
apachelogger(creative word injection might have happend there)21:59
steveire_Thanks. I'll try it out22:00
steveire_suicide squad reports success22:00
* apachelogger loves killing X servers22:00
apacheloggerit is the first thing I turn on in a new setup22:01
steveire_If only we could fix it in the distro...22:01
apacheloggersteveire: you mean remove X? we are workign on that one :P22:01
apacheloggerunless you mean the killing part, that we *could* "fix"22:02
* apachelogger thinks that having it opt-in is not that bad a thing though TBH22:03
steveire_kdepim4.4 is sooo broken.22:03
apacheloggersteveire_: as is 4.6 :S22:04
steveire_apachelogger: Yeah. 4.6 is fixable though :)22:05
steveire_4.6.2 will help22:05
apacheloggerack22:05
seaLneammusingly kmail has started not using kwallet for me again23:17
seaLnekwalletd is running but i don't have any applet for it23:18
seaLnenot sure if that is just due to hiding un needed things or related23:19
steveire_seaLne: I've wondered why I get no applet for it too23:52

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