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keithzgI'm not sleeping, but then again, it's late afternoon where I am.00:13
FanfareQ: asuming a data partition /dev/sdxy to clone/image with dd its a must to unmount? even its not accessed?00:17
James147Fanfare: safest to do it when not mounted00:17
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FanfareJames147: would a remount ro do it too?00:19
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James147Fanfare: yeah, thats probally good enough... though i cannot garentee anything :)00:19
FanfareJames147: sure, i was just thinking of a pure data part... no system partition... i dont think a concurent read would disturb a dd, but a write would definately?!00:21
James147yeah, i think it just the writing thats the problem...though i cannot be sure00:22
Fanfareok, thx.00:23
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TheBuntu!firefox400:39
ubottuFirefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox00:39
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TheBuntuwhats the channel for ppa00:52
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nicklas_in kde settings, in gtk looks settings, there is an option to make the gtk apps use the same style as you use for kde. but it says its not installed. now what is the name of the package needed?01:00
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kujules!firefox402:33
ubottuFirefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox02:33
FloodBotK1!netsplit03:55
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:55
ArchangelSe7enhow do I delete the wallpapers I used on my KDE .. the list grows bigger and there is no option to delete them from GUI04:04
ArchangelSe7enis it safe to delete them manually from /usr/share/wallpapers/ ?04:04
James147ArchangelSe7en: are they being added to that folder ^^ or to a folder in your home?04:04
James147  ~/.kde/share/wallpapers/ is where it should be downloading them to04:04
ArchangelSe7enJames147, ah okay , thank you04:05
ArchangelSe7enJames147, that folder doesnt exist04:05
James147ArchangelSe7en: How are you adding the pictures to the list?04:05
ArchangelSe7enJames147, using Desktop Activity Setting > Open04:06
RussellAlanhey guys i need help with startupmanager, heres the log i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/589123/04:09
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FloodBotK2!netsplit05:09
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:09
valorie!ssl06:06
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gaurav___gtg06:43
gaurav___hi06:43
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rolandhow do use kpackagekit to install older version of a package?07:57
Axlinroland: don't know if you can with kpackagekit. but with synaptic you can use package -> force version to select a version to install, with two caveats. one, this only works if you have multiple repositories with the same package. and two, each repository will only display the latest version that it has available07:59
linux_hii!!08:19
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FloodBotK2!netsplit09:23
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:23
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babaluhi, is this the line to type to get kubuntu 11.04 beta? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa10:31
Peace-babalu:  you have 10.10?10:33
babaluPeace-: yes10:33
Peace-babalu: no it's not10:33
babaluPeace-: i didn't find the instructions to upgrade :/10:33
Peace-babalu: because you should not, it's a beta10:34
Peace-it0s not stable10:34
Peace-wait10:34
babalui have some issues with my current system, it's not stable either ;p10:34
Peace-babalu: you know which are risks about upgrading ?10:35
Peace-babalu: if yes sudo do-release-upgrade10:35
Peace-should be that10:35
babaluPeace-: yes i know them; "no new release found"10:36
Peace-babalu: ok10:37
Peace-babalu: sudo do-release-upgrade -d10:38
Peace-?10:38
Peace-babalu: ok found the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu10:39
FloodBotK1!netsplit10:40
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit10:40
babaluPeace-: i've seen you have tried to help on my issue: http://ircanswers.com/kubuntu/597596/flash-player-crashes-flash-problem did you get any luck on finding what was the solution? (the problem being: on every flash page, chromium-browser tells "The following plugin has crashed: Shockwave flash", i've tried different flash/chromium versions but that didn't help; when started with -g, it works fine10:41
babalu)10:41
Peace-babalu: you have to upgrade chromium10:41
Peace-babalu: i had that problem too10:41
Peace-babalu: Actually i am on kubuntu natty with ppa for chrmoium10:41
babalui have "Chromium 12.0.724.0 Ubuntu 10.10"10:42
Peace-babalu: you want upgrade because you have chromium issues?10:42
babaluthat's right :) well it should work if chromium is working for you :p10:42
Peace-babalu: that because i have ppa10:43
Peace-for chromium10:43
babalui have it too10:43
Peace-ok10:43
babaluChromium 12.0.724.0 Ubuntu 10.10; what's your chromium version?10:43
Peace-12.0.723.0 (80272) Ubuntu 11.0410:43
Peace-o wow you have a newer one10:43
Peace-xD10:43
babaluyou didn't upgrade today ;p10:43
babaluwell, let's try to upgrade then10:44
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Peace-babalu: anyway that is the page to upgrade to 11.04  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu10:44
babaluthnaks10:45
babaluthanks*10:45
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BluesKajHiyas13:32
suerlenoi13:44
suerlenoi13:46
suerlenoieeeeeeeeeee13:48
suerlentas entendendo?13:48
marquie aí13:48
marquitô não visse13:48
marquievc?13:48
suerlentb não13:49
suerlene ae, conseguiu?13:51
marquiconsegui o q?13:53
marquientender?13:53
Pici!br13:53
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.13:53
suerlenola quem é voce?13:55
suerlenola, bom dia13:56
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katsrcwhat's the kde development packages called in 10.10?14:26
Koliakdelibs5-dev ?14:27
Koliakatsrc: ^14:27
katsrcKolia: thanks14:28
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kubuntuwww.google.com15:13
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cabanaema15:35
cabanaJest ktoś z Polski? :P15:35
Pici!pl15:36
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.15:36
Pici:/15:36
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talmackAnyone having problems downloading 10.04 lts 32-bit.   It keeps freezing.  If I pause and restart, it goes for 10MB or so and freezes again.  When it finally fishes after much messing around, after burning, it freezes.  I have tried several times.  I have downloaded other iso's as a test and they download, burn and install fine.16:05
talmackanyone ?16:09
talmackCan anyone with a high speed bandwidth try downloading kubuntu 10.04LTS-desktop 32-bit   http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download16:11
reisican the dbus service be restarted manually while in session?16:12
reisiit has gone unresponsive (firefox cannot start, dbus-monitor hangs)16:13
talmackAny live people here ?16:21
pawleeqtalmack: yeah I feel a bit alive16:21
talmackCan anyone with a high speed bandwidth try downloading kubuntu 10.04LTS-desktop 32-bit   http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download16:23
talmackIt keeps stalling for me.16:23
talmackBeen trying for 3+ days now.  Daily attempts.  It just freezes.  I can download other iso's from other sites.16:24
pawleeqtalmack: 10.10 bittorrent works for me fine16:26
talmackNo, i need 10.04-LTS 32-bit16:27
DarthFrogtalmack: You could get the regular Ubuntu and install the kubuntu-desktop package on it.16:28
talmackI'm trying to install a test linuxmce.  It needs kubuntu 10.04-LTS Desktop 32-bit16:29
DarthFrogtalmack: That will give you kubuntu 10.04-LTS16:29
talmackWho do I contact about issues with downlaoding ISO's ?16:29
DarthFrogtalmack: You could always get it by Bittorrent instead of direct download.16:30
talmackI don't see it in the bittorrents list, only 10.1016:32
DarthFrogtalmack: I'm downloading the Kubunut 10.10 desktop i386 iso right now.  I'm getting 300 - 380 KB/sec. steady.16:32
talmackI'm talking about 10.04-lts 32-bit in the drop down menu16:33
DarthFrogtalmack: Yeah, that's what I'm downloading.16:33
genii-aroundtalmack: Perhaps try the alternate instead: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/lucid/kubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso16:33
talmacklet me know if it freezes around 100-110MB16:34
talmackis that desktop 32-bit ?16:35
genii-aroundtalmack: Yes. Just the alternate installer CD which is text-based install and not livecd install16:35
grawcho_hi ... quick question ... i  have 11.04 installed with KDE 4.6 and a gnome 3.0 session ... + ubuntu classic sessions (unity)16:36
grawcho_and i want to remove unity and ubuntu openbox without damaging the active sessions16:36
grawcho_any one knows how to ?16:36
talmackit just froze at 40.3MB16:36
DarthFrogtalmack:  Could it be your ISP is blocking your download?16:37
grawcho_what packeges should i remove ... ?16:37
DarthFroggrawcho_:  You should ask that question in #ubuntu+116:37
talmackI already successfully downloaded 3 other iso's at the weekend to test if it was my issue.  No problems.  I don't know what the issue is with kbuntu16:38
malkavianHi, folks!16:38
talmackUghhhh16:38
grawcho_thanks16:39
talmackfrustrating16:39
malkavianCan anyone yell me how to use all that themes, icons and styles from kde-look.org?16:40
malkavianWhen I download them I see only archive and there is no even Makefile.16:41
malkavianOr, maybe I have to use only KDE tools like "Download new themes..." etc?16:41
talmackOK than ks.  I'll try again later in the week.16:42
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mrubhello everyone when i try to start kmail it crashes immediatly. running from console gives me the following error:":Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work". i don't think that anything in my locale/language files has changed since this17:36
mrubmorning (when i was writing mails). does anyone know what to do?17:36
Peace-mrub: mmm17:40
Peace-mrub:   ~/.kde17:41
Peace-mrub: your home/.kde17:41
Peace-mrub: share , config and apps17:41
Peace-should be a folder for kmail17:42
Peace-and a file for kmail  something like kmailrc17:42
Peace-try to rename those17:42
mrubPeace-: ok i will do that17:42
mrubPeace-: yay, removing the lock files in .kde/share/apps/kmail did work. thank you ;)17:48
Peace-mrub: :)17:48
Peace-mrub: remember the configuration files can be  safetly renamed17:48
Peace-and in the most of cases you could get the solution17:49
mrubi will keep that in mind17:49
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homer80how can I avoid to see the opegl alert at when I turn on the pc? I followed some guides but nothing changes18:19
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Imagineerwhich repositories do I need for KDEPIM 4.6.1?19:15
shane4ubuntuImagineer: I think kubuntu ppa?  let me check and see.19:16
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shane4ubuntuImagineer: ok, I think here explains:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6.119:19
* James147 didnt think kdepim had updated since 4.4 ^^19:19
shane4ubuntuJames147: I'm not sure, I just thought that 4.6.1 would include kdepim 4.6.1, not really sure though, <-  Imagineer19:20
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James147shane4ubuntu: kdepim hasnt been ready for a new release in quite a while now... though I am expecting it to comeback for 4.7 ^^19:21
Imagineerthat's the problem.  It still loads 4.5 or 4.3519:21
ImagineerI would like to use 4.6.119:22
James147Imagineer: everyone is waiting for a new release of kdepim ^^ though you can get kde 4.6 if you follow the link in the topic19:23
ImagineerKDEPIM 4.6.1 is not included in KDE 4.6.  There are some data loss bugs so they don't want to do a general distribution yet.19:25
James147Imagineer: yeah, so it is not going to be supported19:26
Imagineeryes, but it still exists in some repository. I'm trying to find which one(s).19:26
mikehhtwo things I have noticed in 11.0419:33
mikehh1) in Kate if the open/close tab buttons are activated - the close button does not work19:34
mikehh2) running kde apps under ubuntu, default theme still does not display mouseover (all black) - reported this in Maveric beta, still does not work19:36
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devurandomHello!19:46
devurandomWhen is clementine-0.7.1 coming to (K)Ubuntu 10.10? It (hopefully) fixes some nasty bugs in 0.7.0.19:46
jollywollupanyone running kubuntu beta 1? does your EQ work in Amarok?20:04
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katsrcis there away i can stream my DV video camera content as a source for Flash or Skype?20:13
katsrcis there something that allows me to create an artificial source similar to ManyCam on Windows?20:13
bluhello20:20
bluhow different is kubuntu and ubuntu + kde? kubuntu 10.10 doesnt want to install for me20:21
marxjohnsonthey're the same thing20:21
marxjohnsonkubuntu just has the kubuntu-desktop metapackage instead of ubuntu-desktop by default20:22
marxjohnsonyou can install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and you'll have both20:22
bluexcellent, thanks for confirming20:24
skramer_I still have problems with Akonadi. Trying to start mysqld-akonadi from konsole, I get following error: exec: 3: /usr/sbin/mysqld: Permission denied20:47
ImagineerIn what repositories can I find KDEPIM 4.6.1?  It is still in the development stage so it is not in the standard repositories.20:47
skramer_anybody knows how to fix that problem?20:48
Imagineermy gut check is that the user doesn't have permission to the directory20:49
Imagineerwhat permissions and groups are set for /usr/sbin/mysqld?20:49
skramer_the permissions is 0755, owner root:root20:51
Imagineerwell, it says that everyone can read and execute from the directory, which should be fine for executing any script in /usr/sbin20:52
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ImagineerSomehow, the mysqld-akonadi script is trying to write something there.20:53
Imagineertry running the script as sudo, that will boost the "user" to root.20:53
skramer_still the same error...20:54
Imagineerwhen run as sudo?20:55
Imagineerwow!20:55
Imagineeris this user in the sudo-users group?20:55
skramer_I'm not sure20:59
skramer_quite interesting is the Akonadi test report, Test 4: "MySQL server is executable. Details: MySQL server found: exec: 3: /usr/sbin/mysqld: Permission denied21:04
skramer_sounds strange that MySQL server is executable, but at the same time permission is denied..21:05
Leo_ex7hi, can anyone tell me what's the name of  widget in Kubuntu that after installation is in left corner on the panel next to the menu and it displays /home folder? Sorry for my english.21:09
Imagineersorry about that, had to step away.21:11
Imagineerskramer, everything in /usr/sbin should be just a startup script, no other data, etc is stored there, so read-only should be fine.  My quandry is why is the Akonadi trying to write to that directory.21:13
Imagineeryou might try the #Akonadi channel.21:14
php5engineerWhen I click the address bar of any browser on Windows, its content is highlighted. Now I can type any letter and it will REPLACE the previous web address.21:29
php5engineerBut when I click into the address bar of your browser in Ubuntu, flashing cursor, without highlighting the entire row. Now, if I type any letter, it is ADDED to previous web address.21:29
php5engineerHow can I setup Windows like behavior in Ubuntu?21:29
bigbrovar2is anyone running kubuntu 11.04 beta.  i am having some issues activating blur even though ny graphic card is not blacklisted by kwin21:32
ImagineerIRC question: Having a memory lapse.  How do I turn off the joins/leaves?21:32
bigbrovar2worked well on 10.1021:32
Snowhogphp5engineer: Well, just double-click in the URL and it will be highlighted, then just type to replace.21:33
SnowhogImagineer: Look in the Configure of your IRC client.21:35
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php5engineerSnowhog: then I do double click, only url's part are highlighted. How I clear up now it is possible to highlight whole url with the triple click. But it is  not  confortable  in comparation with Windows21:39
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* James147 tends to use ctrl+L ^^21:39
skramer_Imagineer: in Quassel it is not in the config, but you can right click on the messages & then select which notifications should be shown and which ones not21:41
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contrastGreets, everyone... I have Plasma set to show an independent widget set on the dashboard. After trying to change the layout for the dashboard (i.e., from Desktop to Newspaper), the widgets that were there are "gone" (still running, just trapped in workspace limbo somewhere). Anyone know how I might get them back?22:01
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Guest75242Hey everyone. I am new to Kubuntu and would like some help from someone who is willing top help.22:11
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ImagusXXIIHey.22:19
ImagusXXIII need some help with DvD playback22:20
James147!details | ImagusXXII22:21
ubottuImagusXXII: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:21
ImagusXXIII have a problem with Dvd playback. I put in the dvd and when I try to play the dvd it says the resource cannot be found22:22
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James147!info kubuntu-restricted-extras22:23
ubottukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 42 (maverick), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB22:23
James147^^ you have that installed?22:23
ImagusXXIII am getting it now.22:24
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ImagusXXIII am very new to Linux so i am still figuring this whole new OS out. I am a newbie Windows user trying to actually do something with computers instead of having it all done for me.22:24
James147ImagusXXII: kubuntu is a nice middle ground ^^ it trys to do things for you but dosnt try to hide it :)22:25
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ImagusXXIIDoes anyone know about Networking Monitoring? I run linux and everyone else runs Windows. Is there anyone to monitor the network? Through the router? Directly connecting to there computers?22:30
James147!info wireshark22:31
ubottuwireshark (source: wireshark): network traffic analyzer - GTK+ version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.11-6build0.10.10.1 (maverick), package size 714 kB, installed size 1812 kB22:31
ImagusXXIII do not have a server, but I want to monitor my router.22:31
James147ImagusXXII: then frstly see if your router can do what you want ^^ if not then tools like wireshark can help you see whats going on on the network22:32
katsrchas anyone managed to get the latest Photoshop working on Kubuntu?22:32
ImagusXXIIWhat am I looking for in my router settings to tell me if it can do what I want?22:33
James147katsrc: seems like some have for some version: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1722:33
katsrcJames147: thank you22:33
James147ImagusXXII: What exactly are you trying to monitor?22:34
ImagusXXIII will brb james.22:34
ImagusXXIII want to monitor what sites people go to, who connects to it, who tries to connect to it, pretty much everything.22:35
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contrastI have Plasma set to show an independent widget set on the dashboard. After trying to change the layout for the dashboard (i.e., from Desktop to Newspaper), the widgets that were there are "gone" (still running, just trapped in workspace limbo somewhere). Anyone know how I might get them back?22:37
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uofm49426hey what is the program in kde that auto updates you grub when changes are made23:07
uofm49426like adding a hard drive23:07
James147uofm49426: "sudo update-grub" to update grubs configs23:10
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navatwoHi, I'm trying to create a live usb for upgrading my desktop, but every way I've tried, its failed to boot off of it. It does not go to a prompt, but just says "Loading operating system...\nBoot Error."23:59

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