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| micahg | buildd admin available? the lpia PPA queue is currently > 1day, could one of the i386 PPAs be switched to lpia? | 06:36 |
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| wgrant | micahg: Mmm. Why are you still building for karmic? | 06:59 |
| wgrant | Ah, and hardy. | 06:59 |
| micahg | wgrant: yeah, daily PPAs, those should stop in a month | 06:59 |
| StevenK | Didn't karmic just EOL? | 06:59 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Not for threeish weeks. | 06:59 |
| StevenK | Bah | 06:59 |
| wgrant | micahg: Does anybody use them? | 06:59 |
| micahg | wgrant: unfortunately :( | 07:00 |
| StevenK | Dapper is dead for servers in 2ish months | 07:00 |
| wgrant | Anybody using a daily PPA on hardy or karmic is probably invalid... | 07:00 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Yes :( | 07:00 |
| StevenK | wgrant: That makes you sad? | 07:00 |
| wgrant | StevenK: It is sad/scary that the first LTS is going to die. | 07:00 |
| StevenK | First release I worked on, too. | 07:01 |
| wgrant | Considering I joined the development community just after it :) | 07:01 |
| wgrant | Right. | 07:01 |
| * hyperair still builds daily banshee builds for karmic though... | 07:01 | |
| wgrant | micahg: I've thrown two more builders at it. | 07:02 |
| micahg | wgrant: thanks, once the backlog catches up, I think we only need 3 to keep it < 24 hrs | 07:03 |
| wgrant | micahg: Yeah, probably. I've considered moving one there before... but I hate lpia too much to do that :) | 07:03 |
| * StevenK grumbles at lpia's continued existance. | 07:03 | |
| * micahg wonders if one of the archive lpia builders will switch to i386 once Dapper is dead | 07:04 | |
| wgrant | Hopefully nobody uses lpia servers. | 07:04 |
| wgrant | micahg: dapper doesn't have lpia. | 07:04 |
| wgrant | hardy/karmic do. | 07:04 |
| wgrant | karmic dies in three weeks. | 07:04 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 07:04 |
| wgrant | As does hardy desktop. Wow. | 07:04 |
| micahg | oh, right :) | 07:04 |
| StevenK | And it could be argued hardy lpia isn't LTS-worthy | 07:04 |
| StevenK | But we have no precedent for killing it | 07:05 |
| micahg | so maybe next month we get an extra i386 builder? :) | 07:05 |
| wgrant | Maybe. | 07:05 |
| wgrant | We'll see. | 07:05 |
| StevenK | I wonder if we could disable hardy's lpia DAS. | 07:06 |
| wgrant | Those are the only two elements, though :( | 07:06 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Yes, but ew. | 07:06 |
| StevenK | Haha | 07:06 |
| micahg | wgrant: couldn't they keep their names even if repurposed? | 07:06 |
| wgrant | micahg: Yes, but they look completely different from the rest, so I hate them :P | 07:07 |
| micahg | wgrant: ah, I thought you were being nostalgic | 07:08 |
| maxb | Is it confirmed that karmic PPA builds get switched off before jaunty ones, then? | 07:10 |
| wgrant | maxb: Probably not, sadly. | 07:10 |
| wgrant | But I will strongly encourage people to turn theirs off :) | 07:10 |
| micahg | wgrant: wow, that backlog wnet fast | 07:12 |
| wgrant | micahg: I suspect lots of them were superseded. | 07:14 |
| wgrant | Let me check the log. | 07:14 |
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| fta2 | wgrant, hey | 07:42 |
| wgrant | fta2: Hi. | 07:42 |
| fta2 | i've updated my script to filter stats per package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.html | 07:42 |
| wgrant | fta2: Hmmm, that legend is a little unhelpful :) | 07:43 |
| fta2 | it's just for me atm | 07:43 |
| fta2 | (it's not generated by the tool itself) | 07:43 |
| fta2 | wgrant, if you figure out what's wrong with the raw stats, will it be possible to regenerate the whole lot? | 07:46 |
| wgrant | fta2: We should be able to, but it will take a while :) | 07:47 |
| wgrant | There's a *lot* of logs. | 07:47 |
| fta2 | wgrant, btw, polling stats for the -daily ppa took 4h. polling the other 3 channels took between 9 and 20min each | 07:49 |
| fta2 | quite an improvement | 07:50 |
| fta2 | wgrant, anyway, you said my legend is unhelpful, i tend to disagree. it's not wrong afaik, and it may give clues to a reader passing by as to why some figures look weird | 08:12 |
| wgrant | fta2: Well, I was talking about the one that was about 20 pages long, and most of them were black :P | 08:13 |
| fta2 | ? | 08:14 |
| fta2 | today? or during my (live) tests yesterday? | 08:14 |
| wgrant | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.html | 08:15 |
| wgrant | Ot | 08:15 |
| wgrant | It's actually only a few pages. | 08:15 |
| fta2 | refresh, maybe | 08:16 |
| fta2 | looks ok here, with a list on the right | 08:16 |
| wgrant | It overlays the right half of the graph, and extends through the lower graph, and then some distance down the page. | 08:18 |
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| mrevell | Hey | 09:09 |
| poolie | hi mrevell | 09:11 |
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| fta2 | wgrant, sorry, i was out of my office. | 09:39 |
| fta2 | wgrant, i'm not sure what you're seeing. here is what i have: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/ppa-stats.ogv | 09:40 |
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| fta2 | uh, it's broken in ff4 | 09:50 |
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| doko | good morning | 11:52 |
| doko | I get very often timeouts on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ftbfs+natty+v4l&field.tags_combinator=ALL and the like | 11:52 |
| doko | however I would like to post this link ... | 11:52 |
| doko | and others | 11:52 |
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| bcurtiswx | I just received an error when marking a bug a duplicate of another, where the bug had duplicates of its own. http://paste.ubuntu.com/589290/ | 15:37 |
| johan | Hi, I tried to remotely upgrade a branch of a project in launchpad and it failed in the middle | 15:39 |
| johan | How can I restore the old branch, push to lp: fails, even with --override | 15:39 |
| sinzui | johan: a upgrade to format 2a? | 15:42 |
| johan | sinzui: yes | 15:42 |
| johan | used to be 0.92-something | 15:42 |
| sinzui | johan: I have not seen a upgrade fail. `bzr update` may find and fix the revision issues | 15:43 |
| johan | the project is "stoqlib", and https://code.launchpad.net/~stoq-dev/stoqlib/master | 15:43 |
| johan | sinzui: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589295/ | 15:44 |
| johan | I did an uncommit+commit and pushing it again to see if it works | 15:45 |
| sinzui | johan: I recall that in the branches's .bzr/ directory is a backup of the old format. move that dir to a new location and push with --overwrite | 15:45 |
| kamusin | folks, last week I submited I special tzdata package to my own ppa repository but it seems like never was published, however if you try to resubmit dput says that exists.. | 15:45 |
| johan | sinzui: I did the upgrade remotely, so the backup is remote as well | 15:46 |
| bigjools | kamusin: dput will always say that, use -f | 15:46 |
| bigjools | kamusin: did you get an acceptance email for the original upload? | 15:46 |
| kamusin | bigjools, nope.. | 15:46 |
| kamusin | nothing.. | 15:46 |
| bigjools | then it failed to upload | 15:46 |
| bigjools | kamusin: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227 | 15:47 |
| kamusin | heh bigjools thank you ;) | 15:47 |
| bigjools | np | 15:48 |
| sinzui | johan: I think you are experiencing bug 636930 which is marked fixed. What does bzr --version say? | 15:55 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 636930 in Bazaar 2.2 "Upgrading a repository fails with 'Inter1and2Helper' object has no attribute 'source_repo'" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636930 | 15:55 |
| johan | sinzui: 2.2.0 | 15:55 |
| johan | sinzui: seems like a bug in launchpad though, that it still permits bzr clients without the fixed included to do upgrades which are known to fail | 15:58 |
| sinzui | johan: I think we need to wait about 6 hours for some bzr experts to come online. I see two issues here. 1, getting your branch usable again, 2. getting Lp to use 2.2.1 (or 2.3.1) | 15:59 |
| sinzui | johan: I agree. Lp is letting users shoot themselves in the foot. | 15:59 |
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| sinzui | abentley: maxb: do either you you know how to convince Lp to backout a failed branch upgrade | 16:01 |
| johan | sinzui: I'm trying to sort out the first issue myself | 16:01 |
| johan | taking ages to upload a new branch on a slow connection though | 16:01 |
| sinzui | :( | 16:01 |
| abentley | sinzui: rename backup.bzr to .bzr. | 16:02 |
| johan | am I allowed to do that remotely? | 16:02 |
| sinzui | abentley: the branch is on our servers, which is still a common setup for users | 16:02 |
| abentley | sinzui: Right. That doesn't change my answer. | 16:02 |
| sinzui | abentley: so I request a losa to do it | 16:03 |
| abentley | sinzui: I don't understand why you would do that. | 16:03 |
| sinzui | abentley: the pastbin shows the backup is on a server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589295/ | 16:04 |
| abentley | sinzui: You mean on codehosting? Yes. | 16:06 |
| abentley | sinzui: Still, you don't need a losa to do filesystem operations on your hosted branches. | 16:06 |
| abentley | sinzui: codehosting is accessible via sftp, so any sftp client should be able do do this, including Nautilus. | 16:07 |
| johan | sinzui: managed to restore the branch | 16:07 |
| sinzui | I did not know that | 16:07 |
| abentley | sinzui: Or you could use hitchhiker. | 16:07 |
| sinzui | abentley: I am schooled. | 16:07 |
| maxb | I recall having difficulty finding sftp clients that would successfully mv things | 16:08 |
| sinzui | johan: I am reporting a bug with a pointer to your pastebin about Lp allowing users to attempt operations it knows will fail | 16:08 |
| abentley | maxb: There can be problems if you try to use a disallowed name, but otherwise it's a bug and please report it. | 16:09 |
| johan | sinzui: sounds fine to me, not sure how long the pastebin will last though, so you might want to copy the content to an attachment or so | 16:09 |
| johan | abentley: nautilus says: Cannot display location "sftp://jdahlin@bazaar.launchpad.net/%252Bbranch/stoqlib" | 16:12 |
| bcurtiswx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/747066 | 16:12 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 747066 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy crashed with SIGSEGV in _empathy_marshal_VOID__OBJECT_OBJECT_UINT_STRING_BOOLEAN()" [High,Triaged] | 16:12 |
| bcurtiswx | set it as dup of #748535 | 16:12 |
| bcurtiswx | you'll get the error | 16:13 |
| abentley | johan: It appears you need to use the true URL: sftp://jdahlin@bazaar.launchpad.net/~stoq-dev/stoqlib/master | 16:16 |
| sinzui | bcurtiswx: It worked for me. I think you experienced a cold cache timeout. Since the bugs other duplicates were in cache, I was able to do it | 16:18 |
| abentley | johan: actually, the other URL works too, but you have to use % not %25 for the percent sign. | 16:18 |
| bcurtiswx | sinzui, great then. thx :) | 16:18 |
| sinzui | bcurtiswx: you hit bug 691352 | 16:19 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 691352 in Launchpad itself "BugTask:+duplicate / Bug:EntryResource timeout when marking a bug with duplicates as a duplicate of another bug" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691352 | 16:19 |
| johan | abentley: thanks! | 16:19 |
| bcurtiswx | Ok thx | 16:19 |
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| maxb | If there's a LOSA around not embroiled in other matters: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/117193 is a request to accept a ssh host key as importd@{pear,russkaya,neumayer,galapagos}. | 17:33 |
| maxb | I'm binging about it because it accidentally got marked Answered, and no one noticed for several months, until the original reported privmsged me recently. | 17:33 |
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| micahg | sinzui: I just got a 504 gateway timeout | 18:16 |
| sinzui | micahg: doing what? | 18:16 |
| micahg | sinzui: converting to question | 18:16 |
| sinzui | micahg: That is a common timeout. You can try a few times | 18:17 |
| micahg | sinzui: yes, but it doesn't show an LP timeout page, but just text | 18:17 |
| sinzui | micahg: which question | 18:17 |
| sinzui | sorry bug | 18:18 |
| micahg | bug 741173 | 18:18 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 741173 in Ubuntu "package libqt4-network 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: package libqt4-network is already installed and configured" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/741173 | 18:18 |
| sinzui | wow. I cannot even get the bug to load without a timout | 18:19 |
| sinzui | I wish I was on maintenance for another month so that I could work on this bug | 18:20 |
| mrevell | A video about source package builds: http://youtu.be/_bG-SXNX9Ww?hd=1 | 18:21 |
| micahg | sinzui: is there something for me to file? | 18:22 |
| sinzui | I do not think so | 18:23 |
| micahg | well, is there an issue for LP timeouts not showing an LP page, but a plaintext page? | 18:23 |
| sinzui | No there is not | 18:24 |
| micahg | sinzui: is that worth filing? | 18:25 |
| sinzui | micahg: I wouldn't If you report it, someone may treat it as a separate bug. Since timeouts showing me the correct page, I think the issue is not in launchpads code so the bug will with be invalidated and/or it becomes an rt to look at server setups | 18:28 |
| micahg | I'm just worried if i'm getting them, other users might be as well | 18:29 |
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| sinzui | file the bug then | 18:30 |
| micahg | ok | 18:30 |
| micahg | I'll attach a screenshot so it's more clear | 18:31 |
| * micahg will ask a question instead since it's not clear it's a bug in code | 18:32 | |
| micahg | err, no images on questions :( | 18:33 |
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| thiebaude | Unknown confirmation code. | 19:08 |
| thiebaude | thats what i get when i put in a field, im trying to create a new account, any ideas? | 19:08 |
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| trijntje | Hi all, is there a way to export translation-suggestions from launchpad to a .po file? | 21:30 |
| sinzui | trijntje: no | 21:38 |
| trijntje | sinzui, to any other kind of file? | 21:39 |
| sinzui | No. Lp exports what is accepted, not suggested | 21:39 |
| trijntje | and there is no way around this? | 21:40 |
| sinzui | trijntje: Suggestions are global to Lp, not to a project/package/template. An export needs to match what is in a template to all Lp | 21:40 |
| sinzui | trijntje: I cannot think of a way. | 21:41 |
| trijntje | sinzui, I think launchpad knows what package a suggestions belongs to, because it displays 'suggested by personX for projectY' when showing suggestions | 21:43 |
| sinzui | Suggestions do not "belong" to a package. They are shared | 21:44 |
| sinzui | trijntje: I do not see any bugs about this. I think you are the first to request such a feature | 21:45 |
| trijntje | I also tried searching the web for this option but got no results | 21:48 |
| trijntje | well, Ill ask around for a bit and see if there are other people who would like this feature | 21:49 |
| trijntje | if not, I'll have to live with it ;) | 21:49 |
| trijntje | thanks for your time sinzui | 21:49 |
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| marcster | hmm - not sure I'm in the right area... anybody willing to help sort out an apt sources problem? | 23:19 |
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| EvilPhoenix | marcster: did ya try #ubuntu yet? | 23:26 |
| marcster | EvilPhoenix, nope - saw people with a similar problem recommend this channel. But I'll give it a look. Thanks | 23:28 |
| nigelb | hi | 23:37 |
| nigelb | jcastro was just looking at https://launchpad.net/unity/+series | 23:37 |
| nigelb | it shows 805 bugs as fix released | 23:38 |
| nigelb | but looking at an advanced seach https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED shows 1049 | 23:38 |
| nigelb | is there a reason for this discrepancy? | 23:39 |
| nigelb | lifeless: ^^ a little help? :) | 23:39 |
| micahg | nigelb: maybe some aren't milestoned to a series | 23:41 |
| nigelb | micahg: argh, right. | 23:41 |
| nigelb | that does sound right | 23:41 |
| lifeless | yup | 23:44 |
| lifeless | targeted vs untargeted | 23:44 |
| nigelb | thanks micahg :) | 23:44 |
| lifeless | mm | 23:44 |
| lifeless | may also be a bug | 23:44 |
| nigelb | lifeless: I blame the early morning for not figuring that out earlier :) | 23:44 |
| nigelb | *earlier myself | 23:44 |
| lifeless | in that untargeted bugs are meant to be accounted for on the default series | 23:44 |
| nigelb | aha | 23:44 |
| lifeless | this is a hangover from when we permitted projects *without a default series* | 23:45 |
| lifeless | so please file a bug | 23:45 |
| nigelb | against lp? | 23:45 |
| lifeless | yup | 23:45 |
| nigelb | doing that now :) | 23:45 |
| lifeless | yeah - https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/trunk | 23:45 |
| lifeless | There are currently no bugs filed against trunk | 23:45 |
| nigelb | which is wrong? | 23:46 |
| lifeless | kindof | 23:46 |
| lifeless | there is a Big Picture Refactoring underlying this | 23:46 |
| lifeless | I'm still gathering data - which your bug report will go towards | 23:46 |
| lifeless | we may be able to simplify the DB, make things faster, by getting rid of untargeted bugs. | 23:46 |
| lifeless | something like: all bugs start targeted on the default series; can be moved to another series, or targeted additionally to another series. | 23:47 |
| lifeless | the discrepancy you are seeing would go away | 23:47 |
| nigelb | so now we have a bunch of orphans which go no where | 23:47 |
| lifeless | as would things like 'nominate to trunk' being a special case. | 23:47 |
| nigelb | lifeless: bug 750819 | 23:49 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 750819 in Launchpad itself "Fix Released bugs totaled on /+series doesn't total to total number of fix released bugs for Unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750819 | 23:49 |
| lifeless | thanks | 23:49 |
| nigelb | Also, the prompt which I get post bug filing has a small error | 23:50 |
| nigelb | If you want to you can help fix the bug you are reporting. See <https://dev.launchpad.net/> for more information. | 23:50 |
| nigelb | Shouldn't it be "reporting, see" | 23:50 |
| lifeless | it can go either way | 23:53 |
| lifeless | two sentences is fine AFAICR my grammar rules | 23:53 |
| nigelb | I had to google AFAICR, gosh :p | 23:54 |
| wgrant | It's OK as it is. I'd maybe say "to, you", or "reporting; see" | 23:56 |
| lifeless | its editable if you feel the urge | 23:59 |
| wgrant | I've already fixed it twice :) | 23:59 |
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