=== lifeless_ is now known as lifeless === yofel_ is now known as yofel === magcius_ is now known as magcius === evilnhandler_ is now known as evilnhandler === spm` is now known as spm === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant === poolie_ is now known as poolie [06:36] buildd admin available? the lpia PPA queue is currently > 1day, could one of the i386 PPAs be switched to lpia? [06:59] micahg: Mmm. Why are you still building for karmic? [06:59] Ah, and hardy. [06:59] wgrant: yeah, daily PPAs, those should stop in a month [06:59] Didn't karmic just EOL? [06:59] StevenK: Not for threeish weeks. [06:59] Bah [06:59] micahg: Does anybody use them? [07:00] wgrant: unfortunately :( [07:00] Dapper is dead for servers in 2ish months [07:00] Anybody using a daily PPA on hardy or karmic is probably invalid... [07:00] StevenK: Yes :( [07:00] wgrant: That makes you sad? [07:00] StevenK: It is sad/scary that the first LTS is going to die. [07:01] First release I worked on, too. [07:01] Considering I joined the development community just after it :) [07:01] Right. [07:01] * hyperair still builds daily banshee builds for karmic though... [07:02] micahg: I've thrown two more builders at it. [07:03] wgrant: thanks, once the backlog catches up, I think we only need 3 to keep it < 24 hrs [07:03] micahg: Yeah, probably. I've considered moving one there before... but I hate lpia too much to do that :) [07:03] * StevenK grumbles at lpia's continued existance. [07:04] * micahg wonders if one of the archive lpia builders will switch to i386 once Dapper is dead [07:04] Hopefully nobody uses lpia servers. [07:04] micahg: dapper doesn't have lpia. [07:04] hardy/karmic do. [07:04] karmic dies in three weeks. [07:04] Hmm. [07:04] As does hardy desktop. Wow. [07:04] oh, right :) [07:04] And it could be argued hardy lpia isn't LTS-worthy [07:05] But we have no precedent for killing it [07:05] so maybe next month we get an extra i386 builder? :) [07:05] Maybe. [07:05] We'll see. [07:06] I wonder if we could disable hardy's lpia DAS. [07:06] Those are the only two elements, though :( [07:06] StevenK: Yes, but ew. [07:06] Haha [07:06] wgrant: couldn't they keep their names even if repurposed? [07:07] micahg: Yes, but they look completely different from the rest, so I hate them :P [07:08] wgrant: ah, I thought you were being nostalgic [07:10] Is it confirmed that karmic PPA builds get switched off before jaunty ones, then? [07:10] maxb: Probably not, sadly. [07:10] But I will strongly encourage people to turn theirs off :) [07:12] wgrant: wow, that backlog wnet fast [07:14] micahg: I suspect lots of them were superseded. [07:14] Let me check the log. === gmb` is now known as gmb [07:42] wgrant, hey [07:42] fta2: Hi. [07:42] i've updated my script to filter stats per package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.html [07:43] fta2: Hmmm, that legend is a little unhelpful :) [07:43] it's just for me atm [07:43] (it's not generated by the tool itself) [07:46] wgrant, if you figure out what's wrong with the raw stats, will it be possible to regenerate the whole lot? [07:47] fta2: We should be able to, but it will take a while :) [07:47] There's a *lot* of logs. [07:49] wgrant, btw, polling stats for the -daily ppa took 4h. polling the other 3 channels took between 9 and 20min each [07:50] quite an improvement [08:12] wgrant, anyway, you said my legend is unhelpful, i tend to disagree. it's not wrong afaik, and it may give clues to a reader passing by as to why some figures look weird [08:13] fta2: Well, I was talking about the one that was about 20 pages long, and most of them were black :P [08:14] ? [08:14] today? or during my (live) tests yesterday? [08:15] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.html [08:15] Ot [08:15] It's actually only a few pages. [08:16] refresh, maybe [08:16] looks ok here, with a list on the right [08:18] It overlays the right half of the graph, and extends through the lower graph, and then some distance down the page. === Meths_ is now known as Meths [09:09] Hey [09:11] hi mrevell === Peng__ is now known as Peng === allenap` is now known as allenap === lag` is now known as lag [09:39] wgrant, sorry, i was out of my office. [09:40] wgrant, i'm not sure what you're seeing. here is what i have: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/ppa-stats.ogv === doko__ is now known as doko [09:50] uh, it's broken in ff4 === lan3y is now known as Laney === tty234_ is now known as tty234 === geser_ is now known as geser === adeuring1 is now known as adeuring === debfx_ is now known as debfx === Nigel_ is now known as G [11:52] good morning [11:52] I get very often timeouts on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ftbfs+natty+v4l&field.tags_combinator=ALL and the like [11:52] however I would like to post this link ... [11:52] and others === jelmer_ is now known as jelmer === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger === Pici` is now known as Pici === fta2_ is now known as fta2 === henninge is now known as henninge-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === jtv is now known as jtv-afk === bac` is now known as bac === henninge-lunch is now known as henninge === kenvandine_ is now known as kenvandine === cnd` is now known as cnd === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant === mok0_ is now known as mok0 === mok0 is now known as 5EXACFVV1 === sinzui changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contacts: sinzui | Mail notifications for bugs can see a delay of 4 hours | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ === JayFo is now known as JFo === jtv-afk is now known as jtv [15:37] I just received an error when marking a bug a duplicate of another, where the bug had duplicates of its own. http://paste.ubuntu.com/589290/ [15:39] Hi, I tried to remotely upgrade a branch of a project in launchpad and it failed in the middle [15:39] How can I restore the old branch, push to lp: fails, even with --override [15:42] johan: a upgrade to format 2a? [15:42] sinzui: yes [15:42] used to be 0.92-something [15:43] johan: I have not seen a upgrade fail. `bzr update` may find and fix the revision issues [15:43] the project is "stoqlib", and https://code.launchpad.net/~stoq-dev/stoqlib/master [15:44] sinzui: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589295/ [15:45] I did an uncommit+commit and pushing it again to see if it works [15:45] johan: I recall that in the branches's .bzr/ directory is a backup of the old format. move that dir to a new location and push with --overwrite [15:45] folks, last week I submited I special tzdata package to my own ppa repository but it seems like never was published, however if you try to resubmit dput says that exists.. [15:46] sinzui: I did the upgrade remotely, so the backup is remote as well [15:46] kamusin: dput will always say that, use -f [15:46] kamusin: did you get an acceptance email for the original upload? [15:46] bigjools, nope.. [15:46] nothing.. [15:46] then it failed to upload [15:47] kamusin: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227 [15:47] heh bigjools thank you ;) [15:48] np [15:55] johan: I think you are experiencing bug 636930 which is marked fixed. What does bzr --version say? [15:55] Launchpad bug 636930 in Bazaar 2.2 "Upgrading a repository fails with 'Inter1and2Helper' object has no attribute 'source_repo'" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636930 [15:55] sinzui: 2.2.0 [15:58] sinzui: seems like a bug in launchpad though, that it still permits bzr clients without the fixed included to do upgrades which are known to fail [15:59] johan: I think we need to wait about 6 hours for some bzr experts to come online. I see two issues here. 1, getting your branch usable again, 2. getting Lp to use 2.2.1 (or 2.3.1) [15:59] johan: I agree. Lp is letting users shoot themselves in the foot. === rockstar` is now known as rockstar [16:01] abentley: maxb: do either you you know how to convince Lp to backout a failed branch upgrade [16:01] sinzui: I'm trying to sort out the first issue myself [16:01] taking ages to upload a new branch on a slow connection though [16:01] :( [16:02] sinzui: rename backup.bzr to .bzr. [16:02] am I allowed to do that remotely? [16:02] abentley: the branch is on our servers, which is still a common setup for users [16:02] sinzui: Right. That doesn't change my answer. [16:03] abentley: so I request a losa to do it [16:03] sinzui: I don't understand why you would do that. [16:04] abentley: the pastbin shows the backup is on a server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589295/ [16:06] sinzui: You mean on codehosting? Yes. [16:06] sinzui: Still, you don't need a losa to do filesystem operations on your hosted branches. [16:07] sinzui: codehosting is accessible via sftp, so any sftp client should be able do do this, including Nautilus. [16:07] sinzui: managed to restore the branch [16:07] I did not know that [16:07] sinzui: Or you could use hitchhiker. [16:07] abentley: I am schooled. [16:08] I recall having difficulty finding sftp clients that would successfully mv things [16:08] johan: I am reporting a bug with a pointer to your pastebin about Lp allowing users to attempt operations it knows will fail [16:09] maxb: There can be problems if you try to use a disallowed name, but otherwise it's a bug and please report it. [16:09] sinzui: sounds fine to me, not sure how long the pastebin will last though, so you might want to copy the content to an attachment or so [16:12] abentley: nautilus says: Cannot display location "sftp://jdahlin@bazaar.launchpad.net/%252Bbranch/stoqlib" [16:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/747066 [16:12] Ubuntu bug 747066 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy crashed with SIGSEGV in _empathy_marshal_VOID__OBJECT_OBJECT_UINT_STRING_BOOLEAN()" [High,Triaged] [16:12] set it as dup of #748535 [16:13] you'll get the error [16:16] johan: It appears you need to use the true URL: sftp://jdahlin@bazaar.launchpad.net/~stoq-dev/stoqlib/master [16:18] bcurtiswx: It worked for me. I think you experienced a cold cache timeout. Since the bugs other duplicates were in cache, I was able to do it [16:18] johan: actually, the other URL works too, but you have to use % not %25 for the percent sign. [16:18] sinzui, great then. thx :) [16:19] bcurtiswx: you hit bug 691352 [16:19] Launchpad bug 691352 in Launchpad itself "BugTask:+duplicate / Bug:EntryResource timeout when marking a bug with duplicates as a duplicate of another bug" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691352 [16:19] abentley: thanks! [16:19] Ok thx === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === oubiwann` is now known as oubiwann === kiko` is now known as kiko === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === mdz` is now known as mdz [17:33] If there's a LOSA around not embroiled in other matters: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/117193 is a request to accept a ssh host key as importd@{pear,russkaya,neumayer,galapagos}. [17:33] I'm binging about it because it accidentally got marked Answered, and no one noticed for several months, until the original reported privmsged me recently. === lamont` is now known as lamont === TheEvilPhoenix is now known as EvilPhoenix === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [18:16] sinzui: I just got a 504 gateway timeout [18:16] micahg: doing what? [18:16] sinzui: converting to question [18:17] micahg: That is a common timeout. You can try a few times [18:17] sinzui: yes, but it doesn't show an LP timeout page, but just text [18:17] micahg: which question [18:18] sorry bug [18:18] bug 741173 [18:18] Launchpad bug 741173 in Ubuntu "package libqt4-network 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: package libqt4-network is already installed and configured" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/741173 [18:19] wow. I cannot even get the bug to load without a timout [18:20] I wish I was on maintenance for another month so that I could work on this bug [18:21] A video about source package builds: http://youtu.be/_bG-SXNX9Ww?hd=1 [18:22] sinzui: is there something for me to file? [18:23] I do not think so [18:23] well, is there an issue for LP timeouts not showing an LP page, but a plaintext page? [18:24] No there is not [18:25] sinzui: is that worth filing? [18:28] micahg: I wouldn't If you report it, someone may treat it as a separate bug. Since timeouts showing me the correct page, I think the issue is not in launchpads code so the bug will with be invalidated and/or it becomes an rt to look at server setups [18:29] I'm just worried if i'm getting them, other users might be as well === zyga is now known as zyga-dinner [18:30] file the bug then [18:30] ok [18:31] I'll attach a screenshot so it's more clear [18:32] * micahg will ask a question instead since it's not clear it's a bug in code [18:33] err, no images on questions :( === zyga-dinner is now known as zyga [19:08] Unknown confirmation code. [19:08] thats what i get when i put in a field, im trying to create a new account, any ideas? === tubadaz___ is now known as tubadaz === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === 15SAAFJHR is now known as tubadaz === rockstar is now known as rockstar` === rockstar` is now known as rockstar [21:30] Hi all, is there a way to export translation-suggestions from launchpad to a .po file? [21:38] trijntje: no [21:39] sinzui, to any other kind of file? [21:39] No. Lp exports what is accepted, not suggested [21:40] and there is no way around this? [21:40] trijntje: Suggestions are global to Lp, not to a project/package/template. An export needs to match what is in a template to all Lp [21:41] trijntje: I cannot think of a way. [21:43] sinzui, I think launchpad knows what package a suggestions belongs to, because it displays 'suggested by personX for projectY' when showing suggestions [21:44] Suggestions do not "belong" to a package. They are shared [21:45] trijntje: I do not see any bugs about this. I think you are the first to request such a feature [21:48] I also tried searching the web for this option but got no results [21:49] well, Ill ask around for a bit and see if there are other people who would like this feature [21:49] if not, I'll have to live with it ;) [21:49] thanks for your time sinzui === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [23:19] hmm - not sure I'm in the right area... anybody willing to help sort out an apt sources problem? === JasonO is now known as Guest72019 [23:26] marcster: did ya try #ubuntu yet? [23:28] EvilPhoenix, nope - saw people with a similar problem recommend this channel. But I'll give it a look. Thanks [23:37] hi [23:37] jcastro was just looking at https://launchpad.net/unity/+series [23:38] it shows 805 bugs as fix released [23:38] but looking at an advanced seach https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED shows 1049 [23:39] is there a reason for this discrepancy? [23:39] lifeless: ^^ a little help? :) [23:41] nigelb: maybe some aren't milestoned to a series [23:41] micahg: argh, right. [23:41] that does sound right [23:44] yup [23:44] targeted vs untargeted [23:44] thanks micahg :) [23:44] mm [23:44] may also be a bug [23:44] lifeless: I blame the early morning for not figuring that out earlier :) [23:44] *earlier myself [23:44] in that untargeted bugs are meant to be accounted for on the default series [23:44] aha [23:45] this is a hangover from when we permitted projects *without a default series* [23:45] so please file a bug [23:45] against lp? [23:45] yup [23:45] doing that now :) [23:45] yeah - https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/trunk [23:45] There are currently no bugs filed against trunk [23:46] which is wrong? [23:46] kindof [23:46] there is a Big Picture Refactoring underlying this [23:46] I'm still gathering data - which your bug report will go towards [23:46] we may be able to simplify the DB, make things faster, by getting rid of untargeted bugs. [23:47] something like: all bugs start targeted on the default series; can be moved to another series, or targeted additionally to another series. [23:47] the discrepancy you are seeing would go away [23:47] so now we have a bunch of orphans which go no where [23:47] as would things like 'nominate to trunk' being a special case. [23:49] lifeless: bug 750819 [23:49] Launchpad bug 750819 in Launchpad itself "Fix Released bugs totaled on /+series doesn't total to total number of fix released bugs for Unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750819 [23:49] thanks [23:50] Also, the prompt which I get post bug filing has a small error [23:50] If you want to you can help fix the bug you are reporting. See for more information. [23:50] Shouldn't it be "reporting, see" [23:53] it can go either way [23:53] two sentences is fine AFAICR my grammar rules [23:54] I had to google AFAICR, gosh :p [23:56] It's OK as it is. I'd maybe say "to, you", or "reporting; see" [23:59] its editable if you feel the urge [23:59] I've already fixed it twice :)