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dholbachgood morning07:30
dholbachjussi, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :)07:39
jussidholbach: thanks!07:40
* jussi notes no ascii art :D07:40
dpmgood morning all08:06
dholbachhola dpm08:07
dpmhey dholbach!08:22
kim0Morning everyone o/08:56
kim0oh netsplit .. good morning again then :)09:23
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nigelbmorning, *yawn*09:44
nigelbIn retrospect, sleeping at 5 am wasn't a great idea.09:45
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Pendulumjussi: happy birthday!11:09
jussi:)11:09
popeyo_O11:13
popeywe share a birthday?11:13
Pendulumpopey: happy birthday!11:13
popey:)11:14
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popeyc-c-c-combo breaker!11:14
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popeysorry, I have to11:14
nigelb 11:14
nigelbpopey, jussi ^^ :)11:14
jussisigh... :( You arent supposed to ascii on my birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:15
nigelbwhat! why not?11:15
* jussi lets someone else explain...11:15
popeyits the _one_ day or the year you dont :)11:15
popeys/or/of/11:15
popeynormal service will resume tomorrow11:16
* nigelb confused.11:16
tsimpsonjussi: technically, as this isn't a core channel... ;)11:16
czajkowski:D11:16
jussitsimpson: still :P11:16
nigelbIn other news http://immd.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/04/03/funny-win-story-rebecca-blacks-little-moment-of-win/11:17
czajkowskiascii cake :D11:17
duanedesign♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪  happy birthdat to you ♪♪  happy birthday jussi and popey ♪♪  happy birthday to you ♪♪11:32
jussi:)11:34
duanedesignjussi: i sing you happy birthday even though you went to Disney World without me ;)11:39
jussiawww11:39
nigelbhah11:39
* nigelb counts down to AOL's lawyers talking to duanedesign 11:39
duanedesignjussi: maybe UDS-P :)11:40
jussiqml is awesome.11:40
nigelbI agree.  I tried it out 2 weeks back.11:40
duanedesignjussi: it is. shadeslayer has been sharing some of the stuff he has been making11:40
popey:)11:40
nigelblast night's hacking \o/ http://yfrog.com/gy1fmuej11:43
jussiepic... http://9gag.com/gag/9887011:45
nigelbhahaha11:47
popeynice11:48
AlanBellso with a bit more advertising and a +1 button I think we have all bases covered with Ubuntu12:04
nigelbShould we have Ubuntubook?12:04
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duanedesignnigelb: looks like you had a nice little turnout12:37
nigelbduanedesign: heh, it wasn't the UGJ though.12:39
nigelbduanedesign: It was a local hackathon for Hasgeek LLC12:39
duanedesignnigelb: cprofitt was a bit down yesterday. His Rochester event did not draw anyone despite his best efforts to publicise the event :(12:39
nigelbYeah, almost similar here.12:40
nigelbmy UGJ had 4 fsf people coming in12:40
nigelband they just talked12:40
nigelbwhich meant I couldn't actually fix bugs that I planned to do at UGJ.12:40
Pendulumnigelb: you're much politer than I would have been. I'd have been in the back with my laptop working while they talked.12:46
nigelbPendulum: Oh, I'll probably do that next time.12:51
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czajkowskihttp://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/  food for thought folks15:14
laszlokWhen registering for UDS, the form asks "Who is your attendance requested by?". And the options are all OEMs. What are community members supposed to put there?15:35
shadow42085am I hidden for what?15:37
Picilaszlok: A bit dead here at the moment :/ Still, this is the best place to have that answered.15:37
Picishadow42085: No.  But no one knows the answer to your question elsewhere, hence: no answers.15:38
dholbachjcastro, can you answer laszlok's question?15:40
mhall119jcastro: ping15:42
czajkowskilaszlok: are you a member of a loco team15:42
czajkowskiI've seen some people say they are putting down representing their loco15:42
laszloki'm not part of a loco15:43
czajkowskilaszlok: so you're just going to UDS?15:43
laszlokczajkowski: Well I do more work upstream now than I used to. But yeah, is that still allowed?15:44
czajkowskilaszlok: yes of course. everyone is welcome15:44
czajkowskilet me have a look at the form15:45
czajkowskilaszlok: put down other and then fill in the box15:45
czajkowskisorequested by either upstream or yourself15:46
laszlokbecause of all the companies  listed there is seems more like its asking for affiliation. So maybe I should just put my upstream project down?15:47
czajkowskicould do aye.15:48
laszlokokay all done. Thanks czajkowski15:52
czajkowskinp15:52
jonokim0, about ready?16:02
kim0jono: yeah anytime16:02
jonokim0, one sec16:04
dholbachhey jono16:05
jonohey dholbach16:05
jonokim0, ring ring :-)16:05
kim0jono: another ring16:06
kim0skype madness16:06
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jonokim0, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-translations-portal16:26
dholbachkim0, you're going to work on translations portal now? good luck16:27
dholbachdpm, ^ well done ;-)16:27
AlanBelljcastro: any further thoughts on etherpad for UDS?16:29
popeycontinued laughter16:30
* popey notes James hasn't replied (publicly) on that thread16:30
Technovikingpopey: Happy Birthday16:34
dholbachpopey, it's your birthday today?16:34
Technovikingsomeone on twitter said so, so it must be true:)16:35
macomy calendar said so too16:35
macoit popped up at me at midnight16:35
macohappy birthday popey16:35
PiciHappy birthday popey16:36
* dholbach hugs popey16:36
dholbachHAPPY BIRTHDAY16:36
mhall119happy birthday popey16:36
kim0dholbach: hehe16:36
* dpm joins the birthday fest - happy birthday popey!16:36
kim0popey: Happy Bday man16:37
popeythanks everyone :D16:43
popeyif any of you haven't already.. could you please... (for fun, for UUPC)...16:43
popey16:38:40 #ubuntu-uk-podcast: < marxjohnson> It would be a massive help if you all fill this in before the next show (if you haven't already): http://tinyurl.com/uupcfortunes :-)16:43
Technovikingpopey: done16:57
dholbachjono, 6m?17:25
jonodholbach, yep17:26
jonodholbach, wrapping something and then ready17:26
dholbachrock, just call whenenver17:26
jcastrodholbach: I don't know why the form asks that18:05
dholbachI call it a day - see you all tomorrow *hugs*18:06
jcastromhall119: ping18:14
jcastromhall119: I suppose the export to CSV didn't land?18:14
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mhall119jcastro: for sponsors?18:30
mhall119sponsorships rather?18:30
jcastroyeah18:30
jcastrono worries18:30
jcastroit was just simple to c&p into a spreadsheet18:30
mhall119I actually had a question about that before I even tried to implement it18:30
mhall119I assume we don't want to make this publicly available18:30
jcastrono18:30
mhall119what I don't know is how exactly you want it restricted18:31
jcastrolet me ask another way18:31
jcastrois there a way to just connect everything in the sponsorship part (all the fields, etc.) into a google spreadsheet?18:31
jcastroso like, if someone fills in their email address18:31
jcastroit just gets put in the spreadsheet?18:32
AlanBelldoes this mean applications are only just starting to be assessed, or that sponsorships are about to be announced?18:32
AlanBellor none of the above?18:32
mhall119jcastro: keep them in sync? I have no idea18:33
vishczajkowski: "doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/" is *jot* intended or a typo?18:33
Pendulumvish: jot is slang. it's the same thing as saying that something doesn't matter a bit18:33
mhall119jcastro: it may be possible, but it seems like a lot of work.  Why do you need this in a spreadsheet in the first place, is there a better end-to-end solution we can provide?18:33
vishPendulum: ah.. ok. :)18:33
mhall119jcastro: I also wanted to ask if you would change the summit project ownership to the summit-hackers team18:35
jcastrosure18:35
jcastrocan you link me to the page?18:35
mhall119we can't even do little things like add official bug tags without it18:35
jcastroI am in the middle of a call18:35
mhall119jcastro: https://launchpad.net/summit18:37
mhall119Pendulum: those Brittons and they're funny language18:37
Pendulumwe use 'jot' in New England too :)18:38
Pendulumor at least I've used it for agoes18:38
mhall119y'all got some funny slang up there ;)18:39
AlanBellwe will have the language back if you don't want it any more18:39
mhall119AlanBell: you want it back from us?  cuz it's not in real good condition anymore18:39
mhall119it may have been dropped a few times, and we duct-taped over some of the cracks18:40
AlanBellshould never have let you have it under the BSD license18:41
mhall119:)18:45
mhall119it's not like you wanted us to send changes upstream anyway18:45
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akgranerhas "featured applications" option landed in the Ubuntu Software Center yet?  I'm not seeing it if it has...19:22
akgranerupdating now to see if I missed something since Friday19:23
akgranerand I <3 the narwhals on the wallpaper :-)19:24
akgranerhmmm seems like it was there in Alpha 3...19:27
akgranerahh I see it now :-)19:28
AlanBellthere are some great backgrounds in the list!19:31
AlanBellhope one of them makes it to be the default19:31
AlanBellwhat are we calling the feature that allows you to drag a window to the side and have it snap to occupy half the screen?19:33
mhall119Aero Snap19:33
AlanBellseriously!19:33
mhall119no19:34
vishAlanBell: just window tiling19:35
vish- just (ofcourse)19:35
vish <AlanBell> there are some great backgrounds in the list!; « which backgrounds?19:48
vishAlanBell: for Ubuntu 11.04 or..?19:49
AlanBellthe ones with narwhals on19:49
AlanBellall the aubergine ones except for the one which is almost exactly the same as the maverick background are great19:50
vishAlanBell: ah! they are the ones which have been chosen as part of the additional illustrative wallpapers. " <AlanBell> hope one of them makes it to be the default" « confused me,those will be on the CD and  the default wallpaper is the one with the minor modifications to the Maverick one19:51
cjohnstonjcastro: ping20:04
jcastroyo20:04
cjohnstoncould you please look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/auto-slots/+merge/56027 and provide feedback20:04
AlanBell:( the additional ones are much nicer20:05
jcastrocjohnston: are the 15 minute breaks in there?20:13
cjohnstonNot based on the code that he added that I can tell20:14
jcastro10:45 and 16:0020:14
cjohnstonam I correct that it should be standard?20:14
jcastrohttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/2010-10-26/20:14
jcastrois what it should look like20:14
cjohnstonty20:15
cjohnstonmhall119: ^^20:19
mhall119:(20:19
akgranerhey does anyone in the channel right now mind their IRC Nick showing in a screenshot that may or may not be used in the official Ubuntu book?20:19
akgranergathering screenshots for using webchat now :-)20:20
cjohnstonnope20:20
jcastroI would like that very much!20:21
akgranernot sure which screen shots they'll use and even though it's a public channel I thought I would ask...20:22
Pendulumakgraner: and now you've made sure that anyone who looks at the screenshot knows permission was given :P20:23
akgranerI hope so :-)20:26
akgranerthey may only use the connection screen but I wanted to show what it looks like once you've connected to a channel using the webchat option20:27
* AlanBell resists pasting ascii art20:27
Technovikingakgraner: only if you show my nick's right side:)20:35
akgranerHAHA :-)20:35
AlanBellif you look in /usr/share/backgrounds there are some images space-01.jpg to space-05.jpg which don't appear in the list when you go to change the background20:39
AlanBelland the exif data on these reveals them to be some sabdfl holiday snaps20:39
vishhaha! i think the desktop team has found a way to not disappoint Mark by shipping the photos and not be made to look at those pics ;p20:44
vishoh oops! hope that dint go into the webchat screenshot :s20:44
vishinternet needs a rewind button! BAD!20:45
mhall119lol20:52
mhall119immortalized!20:52
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jcastromhall119: man21:37
jcastroI owe you all beers so badly21:37
jcastrothe crew thing especially will be very useful21:37
mhall119jcastro: it's just LP nicks, is that okay? Summit doesn't have a process for retrieving full names from LP21:38
jcastrothat's fine21:39
_ioHi can someone confirm that my email to the mailing list has been recieved and I'll recieve a reply? :-)21:45
pleia2what mailing list?21:47
_iocommunity-team@lists.ubuntu.com21:47
pleia2hmm, does that exist?21:48
_iocommunity-council@lists.ubuntu.com*21:48
pleia2I don't see any new emails in the archives21:48
_ioyou're on the community council? :-)21:49
pleia2yes21:49
czajkowskihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zbtC3-hIw21:53
akgranerCheese is awesome...it just worked...the things I learn each day...:-)22:04
paultagheyya akgraner22:04
akgranerpaultag, hey!22:05
paultags'new?22:05
akgranerummm nothing except I am getting caught up with work and getting my office organized...just realized I need a USB hub now..:-)22:06
akgranerwhat's new with you...22:06
paultagakgraner: stress! Other then that, not much. I'm preparing a huge patch to fluxbox as we speak, but that's all the fun i've had this week :)22:07
akgranerMy talk about why should I care about your project was well attended this weekend at Texas Linux Fest...and I even handled a troll/semi rude person with ease and didn22:07
paultagakgraner: wooo! :)22:07
akgranerdidn't even show how aggravated I really was...22:07
paultagakgraner: win :)22:07
akgranerpaultag, that stress will kill ya.... I had to re-arrange some things so I wouldn't be so stressed22:08
akgranerand even say not right now to things I really love working on22:08
paultagaye22:09
akgranerI hope it gets better for you!  Please let me know if you need an ear...I can at least listen....22:09
paultagakgraner: thanks for the offer :)22:09
paultagright now I'm just blasting Rachmaninoff in this super awesome room coding22:10
paultagseriously, this room in my uni's science building is boss22:10
paultagthere's no one in here, and it's huge (and couches!)22:10
akgranersweet!22:11
* czajkowski hugs jcastro 22:21
Pendulumjcastro: askubuntu.com is an official resource, right?22:21
czajkowskinatty is  finallly behaving22:21
jcastroPendulum: ask jono22:26
jcastroPendulum: are you talking about luca ferretti?22:26
jcastroI sent him a mail22:26
Pendulumjcastro: yeah22:26
Pendulumokay22:26
Pendulumthen I won't bother replying :)22:29
jcastrodid he send you a mail?22:29
czajkowskihttp://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/  folks may enjoy a read, it's been on my mind for some time22:29
jcastroI liked it!22:29
czajkowskithanks22:30
czajkowskinow I just need to get it through to some teams and let the community bit kick in  abit more22:30
czajkowskinever underestimate the going for a bite to eat or a drink or a game of bolwing over a conference.22:30
Pendulumjcastro: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2011-April/005105.html22:30
Pendulum(for the record that was copied to the Orca list as well22:31
Pendulum)22:31
jcastroI sent him a response like last week, he didn't mail me back yet though22:31
Pendulumwell that was today22:31
Pendulumso it may just be his personal crusade or something now22:31
jcastrowell if he didn't respond I figured he shrugged and was ok with it22:32
nigelbmorning22:32
AlanBelldidn't I respond to him recently on that very point?22:32
AlanBellI did22:37
czajkowskijono: I have to say, I find your fb photo rather disturbing22:37
PendulumAlanBell: yeah, I think that makes it a crusade22:37
AlanBellhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/01/%23ubuntu-website.html22:38
AlanBellelleuca22:38
nigelbAlanBell: oh nice response22:42
AlanBellalmost exactly the same as Pendulum's email response and we didn't collaborate!22:42
nigelbGreat minds think alike.... ;)22:42
jonoczajkowski, lol22:47
jonojcastro, around?23:09
jcastroJoeb454: yep23:12
Joeb454jono: jcastro is around ;)23:13
nigelblol23:13
jcastrooh sorry!23:13
jcastrojono: hi23:13
Joeb454jcastro: it's easily done, I'm used to it23:13
nigelbalso, hey Joeb454 :)23:13
Joeb454hi nigelb23:13
nigelbhaven't seen you around much lately23:14
jcastromaybe you should rename yourself to notjono-reallyjoeb45423:14
jcastrothat would be way easier to autocomplete23:14
macoi wonder if marco is used to being me23:14
macoim pretty used to being mako23:14
Joeb454nigelb: I've been around, just not overly active on IRC23:15
Joeb454jcastro: would that fit with freenodes nick limit?23:15
nigelbJoeb454: Ahh :)23:15
Joeb454jcastro: if it's easier, I have CptSerious or Shrubby on my freenode account23:15
nigelbJoeb454: I see you more on twitter anyway :)23:15
Joeb454:)23:15
nigelbI'm yet to find a 'tab-mate' :(23:15
PendulumI occasionally get confused for people, but usually only by the really lazy tabbers who only type a first letter23:16
nigelbjcastro: lol, re:comment about techcrunch :)23:17
jonojcastro, how many bug fixes on average have we had in Unity since FF?23:18
jcastrofix released?23:18
jcastrolet me see23:18
jonojcastro, yup23:19
jonothanks23:19
jcastro~40023:20
jcastrohttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/unity-stats/23:20
jcastrowe're sitting at about 1050 total right now23:20
jonojcastro, I mean in each release  - it is ~70 bugs fixed per release ,right?23:21
jcastrooh23:22
jcastrohmm23:22
* jcastro thinks how to do that23:22
jonojcastro, actually, don't worry about it23:22
jcastrowait, it's not so hard23:22
Technovikingjcastro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172158523:22
jcastrojono: yargh, each milestone only shows what's targetted23:23
jcastrohttps://launchpad.net/unity/3.0/3.8.223:23
jcastrowed need to ask launchpad which of those 82 bugs are fix released23:23
jcastrobut it's pretty close23:24
jcastrojono: aha, do this23:24
jcastrogo to launchpad.net/unity23:24
jcastrozoom out on "series and milestones" a bit using those +/- symbols23:24
jonojcastro, how does tha thelp?23:25
jcastrothen middle click on the last few milestones (the black dots)23:25
jonoright23:25
jcastro"0 blueprints and 62 bugs targeted" on each milestone page23:26
jonothis doesnt seem right23:26
jcastrominus the onesies and twosies which remain Triaged23:26
jono    1 Invalid, 8 Fix Released23:26
jonofor 3.2.223:26
jonomore than 8 bugs were fixed23:26
jcastrodrag the milestone thing to the right23:26
jcastroyou want 3.6.x23:26
jonoahhh23:26
jcastro3.2.2 is like when it was all crap23:27
jonoI am a muppet23:27
jcastrono, the slider is so nonobvious23:27
jcastroit's awesome, I just kind of figured this out, would have been nice to know before writing a report a week for half the cycle23:27
jcastro(lol)23:27
jonolol23:27
jcastroFF was 24 March23:28
jcastrojono: ok, so add up every release after (and including 3.6.6)23:29
jcastromy calibrated eyeball on the graph tells me ~40023:29
nigelbjcastro: https://launchpad.net/unity/+series might help23:32
jcastro!!!!23:32
jcastrodude23:32
nigelbI guess it helps :)23:33
jcastrothat makes no sense23:33
jcastrothe graph says over 1000 bugs fixed23:33
jcastrothis says 52523:33
nigelbthis is bugs, the graph might be tasks23:33
nigelba bug can have more than one task23:34
nigelb(that's my only guess for the moment)23:34
jcastrohrmph23:34
nigelbdoes the graph show 1049?23:35
jcastroabout that yes23:35
jcastroactually, yeah23:35
nigelbhrm, that's what I see on the bugs page23:35
jcastrostatus.qa says ..... 78423:37
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED23:37
jcastrobased on that23:37
jcastrobut that's counting old mutter junk I don't care about23:38
nigelbI'm asking in #lp for you23:38
nigelbthis is strange23:39
nigelbhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED23:40
nigelberr wrogn one23:40
nigelbhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED23:40
nigelbthis one shows 104923:40
nigelbbut then I don't know wwhat's wrong with series?23:41
nigelbjcastro: oh, were there bugs not targetted to a series or milestone?23:41
jcastroperhaps23:42
nigelbjcastro: that's it! there are a bunch of bugs not targtted, but fixed, so it doesn't get counted in /+series23:42
jcastroaha23:42
jcastroso they're just in a normal pile23:42
nigelbyeah, though this makes numbers a bit more challenging23:43
nigelbi.e., getting the number of bugs fixed in a milestone23:43
nigelbjcastro: heh, filing an lp bug now.  apparently, it was supposed to total correctly :D23:45
jcastrooh, handy!23:48
nigelbfor future reference, bug bug 75081923:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 750819 in launchpad "Fix Released bugs totaled on /+series doesn't total to total number of fix released bugs for Unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75081923:50

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