=== kim0 is now known as Guest95923 === IdleOne is now known as excal_cheating === excal_cheating is now known as IdleOne === evilnhandler_ is now known as evilnhandler === Tm_T_ is now known as Tm_Tr === jussi01_ is now known as jussi === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [07:30] good morning [07:39] jussi, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :) [07:40] dholbach: thanks! [07:40] * jussi notes no ascii art :D [08:06] good morning all [08:07] hola dpm [08:22] hey dholbach! [08:56] Morning everyone o/ [09:23] oh netsplit .. good morning again then :) === daker__ is now known as daker [09:44] morning, *yawn* [09:45] In retrospect, sleeping at 5 am wasn't a great idea. === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === Joeb454_ is now known as Joeb454 [11:09] jussi: happy birthday! [11:09] :) [11:13] o_O [11:13] we share a birthday? [11:13] popey: happy birthday! [11:14] :) [11:14] _ _ _ ____ ______ __ ____ ___ ____ _____ _ _ ____ _ __ __ [11:14] | | | | / \ | _ \| _ \ \ / / | __ )_ _| _ \_ _| | | | _ \ / \\ \ / / [11:14] | |_| | / _ \ | |_) | |_) \ V / | _ \| || |_) || | | |_| | | | |/ _ \\ V / [11:14] c-c-c-combo breaker! [11:14] | _ |/ ___ \| __/| __/ | | | |_) | || _ < | | | _ | |_| / ___ \| | [11:14] |_| |_/_/ \_\_| |_| |_| |____/___|_| \_\|_| |_| |_|____/_/ \_\_| [11:14] sorry, I have to [11:14] [11:14] popey, jussi ^^ :) [11:15] sigh... :( You arent supposed to ascii on my birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [11:15] what! why not? [11:15] * jussi lets someone else explain... [11:15] its the _one_ day or the year you dont :) [11:15] s/or/of/ [11:16] normal service will resume tomorrow [11:16] * nigelb confused. [11:16] jussi: technically, as this isn't a core channel... ;) [11:16] :D [11:16] tsimpson: still :P [11:17] In other news http://immd.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/04/03/funny-win-story-rebecca-blacks-little-moment-of-win/ [11:17] ascii cake :D [11:32] ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪ happy birthdat to you ♪♪ happy birthday jussi and popey ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪ [11:34] :) [11:39] jussi: i sing you happy birthday even though you went to Disney World without me ;) [11:39] awww [11:39] hah [11:39] * nigelb counts down to AOL's lawyers talking to duanedesign [11:40] jussi: maybe UDS-P :) [11:40] qml is awesome. [11:40] I agree. I tried it out 2 weeks back. [11:40] jussi: it is. shadeslayer has been sharing some of the stuff he has been making [11:40] :) [11:43] last night's hacking \o/ http://yfrog.com/gy1fmuej [11:45] epic... http://9gag.com/gag/98870 [11:47] hahaha [11:48] nice [12:04] so with a bit more advertising and a +1 button I think we have all bases covered with Ubuntu [12:04] Should we have Ubuntubook? === Pici` is now known as Pici [12:37] nigelb: looks like you had a nice little turnout [12:39] duanedesign: heh, it wasn't the UGJ though. [12:39] duanedesign: It was a local hackathon for Hasgeek LLC [12:39] nigelb: cprofitt was a bit down yesterday. His Rochester event did not draw anyone despite his best efforts to publicise the event :( [12:40] Yeah, almost similar here. [12:40] my UGJ had 4 fsf people coming in [12:40] and they just talked [12:40] which meant I couldn't actually fix bugs that I planned to do at UGJ. [12:46] nigelb: you're much politer than I would have been. I'd have been in the back with my laptop working while they talked. [12:51] Pendulum: Oh, I'll probably do that next time. === greg_g is now known as greg-g === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === JayFo is now known as JFo [15:14] http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/ food for thought folks [15:35] When registering for UDS, the form asks "Who is your attendance requested by?". And the options are all OEMs. What are community members supposed to put there? [15:37] am I hidden for what? [15:37] laszlok: A bit dead here at the moment :/ Still, this is the best place to have that answered. [15:38] shadow42085: No. But no one knows the answer to your question elsewhere, hence: no answers. [15:40] jcastro, can you answer laszlok's question? [15:42] jcastro: ping [15:42] laszlok: are you a member of a loco team [15:42] I've seen some people say they are putting down representing their loco [15:43] i'm not part of a loco [15:43] laszlok: so you're just going to UDS? [15:44] czajkowski: Well I do more work upstream now than I used to. But yeah, is that still allowed? [15:44] laszlok: yes of course. everyone is welcome [15:45] let me have a look at the form [15:45] laszlok: put down other and then fill in the box [15:46] sorequested by either upstream or yourself [15:47] because of all the companies listed there is seems more like its asking for affiliation. So maybe I should just put my upstream project down? [15:48] could do aye. [15:52] okay all done. Thanks czajkowski [15:52] np [16:02] kim0, about ready? [16:02] jono: yeah anytime [16:04] kim0, one sec [16:05] hey jono [16:05] hey dholbach [16:05] kim0, ring ring :-) [16:06] jono: another ring [16:06] skype madness === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [16:26] kim0, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-translations-portal [16:27] kim0, you're going to work on translations portal now? good luck [16:27] dpm, ^ well done ;-) [16:29] jcastro: any further thoughts on etherpad for UDS? [16:30] continued laughter [16:30] * popey notes James hasn't replied (publicly) on that thread [16:34] popey: Happy Birthday [16:34] popey, it's your birthday today? [16:35] someone on twitter said so, so it must be true:) [16:35] my calendar said so too [16:35] it popped up at me at midnight [16:35] happy birthday popey [16:36] Happy birthday popey [16:36] * dholbach hugs popey [16:36] HAPPY BIRTHDAY [16:36] happy birthday popey [16:36] dholbach: hehe [16:36] * dpm joins the birthday fest - happy birthday popey! [16:37] popey: Happy Bday man [16:43] thanks everyone :D [16:43] if any of you haven't already.. could you please... (for fun, for UUPC)... [16:43] 16:38:40 #ubuntu-uk-podcast: < marxjohnson> It would be a massive help if you all fill this in before the next show (if you haven't already): http://tinyurl.com/uupcfortunes :-) [16:57] popey: done [17:25] jono, 6m? [17:26] dholbach, yep [17:26] dholbach, wrapping something and then ready [17:26] rock, just call whenenver [18:05] dholbach: I don't know why the form asks that [18:06] I call it a day - see you all tomorrow *hugs* [18:14] mhall119: ping [18:14] mhall119: I suppose the export to CSV didn't land? === daker is now known as daker_ [18:30] jcastro: for sponsors? [18:30] sponsorships rather? [18:30] yeah [18:30] no worries [18:30] it was just simple to c&p into a spreadsheet [18:30] I actually had a question about that before I even tried to implement it [18:30] I assume we don't want to make this publicly available [18:30] no [18:31] what I don't know is how exactly you want it restricted [18:31] let me ask another way [18:31] is there a way to just connect everything in the sponsorship part (all the fields, etc.) into a google spreadsheet? [18:31] so like, if someone fills in their email address [18:32] it just gets put in the spreadsheet? [18:32] does this mean applications are only just starting to be assessed, or that sponsorships are about to be announced? [18:32] or none of the above? [18:33] jcastro: keep them in sync? I have no idea [18:33] czajkowski: "doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/" is *jot* intended or a typo? [18:33] vish: jot is slang. it's the same thing as saying that something doesn't matter a bit [18:33] jcastro: it may be possible, but it seems like a lot of work. Why do you need this in a spreadsheet in the first place, is there a better end-to-end solution we can provide? [18:33] Pendulum: ah.. ok. :) [18:35] jcastro: I also wanted to ask if you would change the summit project ownership to the summit-hackers team [18:35] sure [18:35] can you link me to the page? [18:35] we can't even do little things like add official bug tags without it [18:35] I am in the middle of a call [18:37] jcastro: https://launchpad.net/summit [18:37] Pendulum: those Brittons and they're funny language [18:38] we use 'jot' in New England too :) [18:38] or at least I've used it for agoes [18:39] y'all got some funny slang up there ;) [18:39] we will have the language back if you don't want it any more [18:39] AlanBell: you want it back from us? cuz it's not in real good condition anymore [18:40] it may have been dropped a few times, and we duct-taped over some of the cracks [18:41] should never have let you have it under the BSD license [18:45] :) [18:45] it's not like you wanted us to send changes upstream anyway === tubadaz___ is now known as tubadaz === akgraner` is now known as akgraner [19:22] has "featured applications" option landed in the Ubuntu Software Center yet? I'm not seeing it if it has... [19:23] updating now to see if I missed something since Friday [19:24] and I <3 the narwhals on the wallpaper :-) [19:27] hmmm seems like it was there in Alpha 3... [19:28] ahh I see it now :-) [19:31] there are some great backgrounds in the list! [19:31] hope one of them makes it to be the default [19:33] what are we calling the feature that allows you to drag a window to the side and have it snap to occupy half the screen? [19:33] Aero Snap [19:33] seriously! [19:34] no [19:35] AlanBell: just window tiling [19:35] - just (ofcourse) [19:48] there are some great backgrounds in the list!; « which backgrounds? [19:49] AlanBell: for Ubuntu 11.04 or..? [19:49] the ones with narwhals on [19:50] all the aubergine ones except for the one which is almost exactly the same as the maverick background are great [19:51] AlanBell: ah! they are the ones which have been chosen as part of the additional illustrative wallpapers. " hope one of them makes it to be the default" « confused me,those will be on the CD and the default wallpaper is the one with the minor modifications to the Maverick one [20:04] jcastro: ping [20:04] yo [20:04] could you please look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/auto-slots/+merge/56027 and provide feedback [20:05] :( the additional ones are much nicer [20:13] cjohnston: are the 15 minute breaks in there? [20:14] Not based on the code that he added that I can tell [20:14] 10:45 and 16:00 [20:14] am I correct that it should be standard? [20:14] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/2010-10-26/ [20:14] is what it should look like [20:15] ty [20:19] mhall119: ^^ [20:19] :( [20:19] hey does anyone in the channel right now mind their IRC Nick showing in a screenshot that may or may not be used in the official Ubuntu book? [20:20] gathering screenshots for using webchat now :-) [20:20] nope [20:21] I would like that very much! [20:22] not sure which screen shots they'll use and even though it's a public channel I thought I would ask... [20:23] akgraner: and now you've made sure that anyone who looks at the screenshot knows permission was given :P [20:26] I hope so :-) [20:27] they may only use the connection screen but I wanted to show what it looks like once you've connected to a channel using the webchat option [20:27] * AlanBell resists pasting ascii art [20:35] akgraner: only if you show my nick's right side:) [20:35] HAHA :-) [20:39] if you look in /usr/share/backgrounds there are some images space-01.jpg to space-05.jpg which don't appear in the list when you go to change the background [20:39] and the exif data on these reveals them to be some sabdfl holiday snaps [20:44] haha! i think the desktop team has found a way to not disappoint Mark by shipping the photos and not be made to look at those pics ;p [20:44] oh oops! hope that dint go into the webchat screenshot :s [20:45] internet needs a rewind button! BAD! [20:52] lol [20:52] immortalized! === 15SAAFJHR is now known as tubadaz [21:37] mhall119: man [21:37] I owe you all beers so badly [21:37] the crew thing especially will be very useful [21:38] jcastro: it's just LP nicks, is that okay? Summit doesn't have a process for retrieving full names from LP [21:39] that's fine [21:45] <_io> Hi can someone confirm that my email to the mailing list has been recieved and I'll recieve a reply? :-) [21:47] what mailing list? [21:47] <_io> community-team@lists.ubuntu.com [21:48] hmm, does that exist? [21:48] <_io> community-council@lists.ubuntu.com* [21:48] I don't see any new emails in the archives [21:49] <_io> you're on the community council? :-) [21:49] yes [21:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zbtC3-hIw [22:04] Cheese is awesome...it just worked...the things I learn each day...:-) [22:04] heyya akgraner [22:05] paultag, hey! [22:05] s'new? [22:06] ummm nothing except I am getting caught up with work and getting my office organized...just realized I need a USB hub now..:-) [22:06] what's new with you... [22:07] akgraner: stress! Other then that, not much. I'm preparing a huge patch to fluxbox as we speak, but that's all the fun i've had this week :) [22:07] My talk about why should I care about your project was well attended this weekend at Texas Linux Fest...and I even handled a troll/semi rude person with ease and didn [22:07] akgraner: wooo! :) [22:07] didn't even show how aggravated I really was... [22:07] akgraner: win :) [22:08] paultag, that stress will kill ya.... I had to re-arrange some things so I wouldn't be so stressed [22:08] and even say not right now to things I really love working on [22:09] aye [22:09] I hope it gets better for you! Please let me know if you need an ear...I can at least listen.... [22:09] akgraner: thanks for the offer :) [22:10] right now I'm just blasting Rachmaninoff in this super awesome room coding [22:10] seriously, this room in my uni's science building is boss [22:10] there's no one in here, and it's huge (and couches!) [22:11] sweet! [22:21] * czajkowski hugs jcastro [22:21] jcastro: askubuntu.com is an official resource, right? [22:21] natty is finallly behaving [22:26] Pendulum: ask jono [22:26] Pendulum: are you talking about luca ferretti? [22:26] I sent him a mail [22:26] jcastro: yeah [22:26] okay [22:29] then I won't bother replying :) [22:29] did he send you a mail? [22:29] http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/ folks may enjoy a read, it's been on my mind for some time [22:29] I liked it! [22:30] thanks [22:30] now I just need to get it through to some teams and let the community bit kick in abit more [22:30] never underestimate the going for a bite to eat or a drink or a game of bolwing over a conference. [22:30] jcastro: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2011-April/005105.html [22:31] (for the record that was copied to the Orca list as well [22:31] ) [22:31] I sent him a response like last week, he didn't mail me back yet though [22:31] well that was today [22:31] so it may just be his personal crusade or something now [22:32] well if he didn't respond I figured he shrugged and was ok with it [22:32] morning [22:32] didn't I respond to him recently on that very point? [22:37] I did [22:37] jono: I have to say, I find your fb photo rather disturbing [22:37] AlanBell: yeah, I think that makes it a crusade [22:38] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/01/%23ubuntu-website.html [22:38] elleuca [22:42] AlanBell: oh nice response [22:42] almost exactly the same as Pendulum's email response and we didn't collaborate! [22:42] Great minds think alike.... ;) [22:47] czajkowski, lol [23:09] jcastro, around? [23:12] Joeb454: yep [23:13] jono: jcastro is around ;) [23:13] lol [23:13] oh sorry! [23:13] jono: hi [23:13] jcastro: it's easily done, I'm used to it [23:13] also, hey Joeb454 :) [23:13] hi nigelb [23:14] haven't seen you around much lately [23:14] maybe you should rename yourself to notjono-reallyjoeb454 [23:14] that would be way easier to autocomplete [23:14] i wonder if marco is used to being me [23:14] im pretty used to being mako [23:15] nigelb: I've been around, just not overly active on IRC [23:15] jcastro: would that fit with freenodes nick limit? [23:15] Joeb454: Ahh :) [23:15] jcastro: if it's easier, I have CptSerious or Shrubby on my freenode account [23:15] Joeb454: I see you more on twitter anyway :) [23:15] :) [23:15] I'm yet to find a 'tab-mate' :( [23:16] I occasionally get confused for people, but usually only by the really lazy tabbers who only type a first letter [23:17] jcastro: lol, re:comment about techcrunch :) [23:18] jcastro, how many bug fixes on average have we had in Unity since FF? [23:18] fix released? [23:18] let me see [23:19] jcastro, yup [23:19] thanks [23:20] ~400 [23:20] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/unity-stats/ [23:20] we're sitting at about 1050 total right now [23:21] jcastro, I mean in each release - it is ~70 bugs fixed per release ,right? [23:22] oh [23:22] hmm [23:22] * jcastro thinks how to do that [23:22] jcastro, actually, don't worry about it [23:22] wait, it's not so hard [23:22] jcastro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1721585 [23:23] jono: yargh, each milestone only shows what's targetted [23:23] https://launchpad.net/unity/3.0/3.8.2 [23:23] wed need to ask launchpad which of those 82 bugs are fix released [23:24] but it's pretty close [23:24] jono: aha, do this [23:24] go to launchpad.net/unity [23:24] zoom out on "series and milestones" a bit using those +/- symbols [23:25] jcastro, how does tha thelp? [23:25] then middle click on the last few milestones (the black dots) [23:25] right [23:26] "0 blueprints and 62 bugs targeted" on each milestone page [23:26] this doesnt seem right [23:26] minus the onesies and twosies which remain Triaged [23:26] 1 Invalid, 8 Fix Released [23:26] for 3.2.2 [23:26] more than 8 bugs were fixed [23:26] drag the milestone thing to the right [23:26] you want 3.6.x [23:26] ahhh [23:27] 3.2.2 is like when it was all crap [23:27] I am a muppet [23:27] no, the slider is so nonobvious [23:27] it's awesome, I just kind of figured this out, would have been nice to know before writing a report a week for half the cycle [23:27] (lol) [23:27] lol [23:28] FF was 24 March [23:29] jono: ok, so add up every release after (and including 3.6.6) [23:29] my calibrated eyeball on the graph tells me ~400 [23:32] jcastro: https://launchpad.net/unity/+series might help [23:32] !!!! [23:32] dude [23:33] I guess it helps :) [23:33] that makes no sense [23:33] the graph says over 1000 bugs fixed [23:33] this says 525 [23:33] this is bugs, the graph might be tasks [23:34] a bug can have more than one task [23:34] (that's my only guess for the moment) [23:34] hrmph [23:35] does the graph show 1049? [23:35] about that yes [23:35] actually, yeah [23:35] hrm, that's what I see on the bugs page [23:37] status.qa says ..... 784 [23:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED [23:37] based on that [23:38] but that's counting old mutter junk I don't care about [23:38] I'm asking in #lp for you [23:39] this is strange [23:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED [23:40] err wrogn one [23:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED [23:40] this one shows 1049 [23:41] but then I don't know wwhat's wrong with series? [23:41] jcastro: oh, were there bugs not targetted to a series or milestone? [23:42] perhaps [23:42] jcastro: that's it! there are a bunch of bugs not targtted, but fixed, so it doesn't get counted in /+series [23:42] aha [23:42] so they're just in a normal pile [23:43] yeah, though this makes numbers a bit more challenging [23:43] i.e., getting the number of bugs fixed in a milestone [23:45] jcastro: heh, filing an lp bug now. apparently, it was supposed to total correctly :D [23:48] oh, handy! [23:50] for future reference, bug bug 750819 [23:50] Launchpad bug 750819 in launchpad "Fix Released bugs totaled on /+series doesn't total to total number of fix released bugs for Unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750819