[00:22] <nhaines> sn9: German word for oneirick would be träumig.
[00:24] <sn9> no "ei" in that
[07:36] <nhaines> Unity is optimal for playing Minecraft: http://ubuntuone.com/p/kpO/
[16:52] <iheartubuntu> I only had time to pull off one Natty countdown banner idea. Its very simple and uses the Ubuntu orange. Wished I had more time. Will be working well in advance on 11.10 designs! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/NattyCountdownBanner
[17:19] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: I like the elegance of your design.  It's a real shame it doesn't qualify.  :(
[17:23] <pleia2> what's the trouble with it?
[17:24] <nhaines> pleia2: they basically said "no narwhals".
[17:25] <sn9> wtf
[17:27] <nhaines> Some of the designs there are a bit gaudy.... I think Anthony Scarth's design's probably the nicest, or Leandro Gómez's.  But iheartubuntu's is very clean, and that's something most of the others are lacking.
[17:28] <pleia2> ah, I knew they said they didn't want animals a few countdown banners ago, but I didn't realize it had continued (and they didn't include that on the guidelines)
[17:29] <pleia2> "it would probably be inappropriate to over-emphasize narwhal graphics"
[17:29] <pleia2> from the announcement
[17:30] <sn9> pink unicorns
[17:30] <pleia2> they should add that to the guidelines on the wiki, seems like a few people didn't realize
[17:30] <nhaines> Yeah, I was surprised not to find it on the wiki page.
[17:31] <sn9> "they" ? it's a wiki
[17:31] <pleia2> sn9: changing the guidelines for someone else's contest is not good form
[17:32] <iheartubuntu> well, i tried not make the narwhal stand out with any detail. just an outline.
[17:32] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: it's better than the aqua one with the dancing narwhal.  :)
[17:32] <iheartubuntu> there can always be exceptions :) (or not)
[17:33] <pleia2> hehe, I quite like the cartoony one ;)
[17:33] <iheartubuntu> so do i!
[17:33] <iheartubuntu> i tihnk its good to have more than just one or two designs.
[17:33] <iheartubuntu> a cartoon design would work great on, well, my cartoon site
[17:39] <iheartubuntu> DUH - i just figured out i can ftp into my servers right from a "places" folder
[17:41] <nhaines> Any Nautilus folder will let you ftp in.
[17:41] <nhaines> nautilus is pretty awesome.  :)
[17:41] <sn9> unity isn't
[17:43] <nhaines> Unity is awesome, too.
[17:43] <nhaines> It's perfect for playing Minecraft.
[17:43] <nhaines> Q.E.D.
[17:44] <nhaines> Unity's awesomeness is much more recent, though.
[20:14] <nhaines> pleia2: I just picked up the book "15 Minutes Including Q&Q: A Plan to Save the World From Lousy Presentations".  I'll let you know if it's any good.
[20:15] <pleia2> nhaines: thanks :)
[20:15] <nhaines> pleia2: the Slashdot review (plus the title) sounded promising and the $2.99 Kindle price was too good to pass up.  :)
[20:15] <pleia2> ah nice
[20:17] <pleia2> I was asked to submit a keynote talk for a little foss event back east last week, if I'm selected my stuffed animal audience will be well-used by the time I'm ready for it
[20:22] <nhaines> pleia2: oh wow, that's great!  :D
[20:22] <nhaines> Someday I'll give a keynote.  :)
[20:23] <pleia2> yeah, we'll see, it's just a little conference but I have to start somewhere :)
[20:29] <nhaines> pleia2: how many times do you practice a speech before you give it?
[20:36] <pleia2> nhaines: depends on the talk, 8 times is probably average though
[20:36] <pleia2> I always set aside at least 8 hours for just speaking prep
[20:37] <nhaines> pleia2: I'm always a little lazy on setting aside time.  I do a lot of talking out loud as I'm writing notes and creating slides.
[20:38] <nhaines> I even manage to convince myself I'll sound more ad-libbing and off-the-cuff.  :)
[20:38] <nhaines> Even though I know that even when I was an instructor and giving the same 7-hour Excel lesson week after week, my "spontaneous" jokes were all well-planned in advance.
[20:43] <iheartubuntu> so  thats what the stuffed animals are for!
[20:45] <iheartubuntu> pleia2 is going to have lucid dreams of talking to life sized furry humans. i would be worried when they start chasing you
[20:47] <pleia2> cute fluffy things are never aggressive :)
[20:47] <iheartubuntu> :D
[20:49] <iheartubuntu> im going natty on this computer. be back in a few
[20:49] <iheartubuntu> (minutes? hours?)
[22:08] <iheartubuntu> natty still installing on my desktop. doing all the updates
[22:11] <nhaines> pleia2: it was a pretty good book.  :)  Not 100% applicable to every talk I'll give, but definitely had some good ideas in it.
[22:13] <iheartubuntu> 14 min to go for natty. i notice on the desktop im installing with nvidia, the topbar didnt work
[22:15] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: during the Ubiquity installer?  It doesn't work on ATI either.
[22:15] <iheartubuntu> yes
[22:16] <iheartubuntu> i didnt experience that on this laptop with built in graphics
[22:16] <iheartubuntu> but it will work one installed? :)
[22:16] <iheartubuntu> (gulp)
[22:17] <nhaines> Yes, for me there's a missing icon and the top panel is only about 4px high.  It's really annoying.
[22:19] <iheartubuntu> yes, thats exactly what it looks like right now
[22:21] <nhaines> Aww, UDS-S is in Orlando.
[22:21] <iheartubuntu> i saw that. did anyone here go to it last yr?
[22:22] <kdub> wasnt it in orlando last time?
[22:22] <iheartubuntu> yah
[22:25] <kdub> shuttleworth must like florida i guess
[22:27] <pleia2> apparently it was a 2 year deal
[22:32] <broder> UDS-S is, what, 13.10?
[22:33] <broder> ah, the rumor is UDS-P not -S. that's...slightly less absurdly in advance
[22:46] <iheartubuntu> OMGubuntu mentioned it could be in FL again for budget reasons. dont know if they had a source to that or just speculation
[22:48] <broder> I don't have anything to compare against, but I thought the Caribe Royale was nice
[23:12] <iheartubuntu> woohoo! 3rd place in countdown banners!
[23:13] <pleia2> oh, did they announce them?
[23:16] <iheartubuntu> shhh! i didnt finish reading the email. im not supposed to tell anyone!
[23:16] <iheartubuntu> dang
[23:21] <pleia2> hah
[23:39] <iheartubuntu> this station is for nhaines... http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=1280187
[23:40] <iheartubuntu> "Melodien aus den Bergen"
[23:40] <iheartubuntu> :D
[23:46] <kdub> internet
[23:47] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: congrats!  Your banner is definitely the cleanest.  :)
[23:49] <kdub> whats a banner for?
[23:54] <iheartubuntu> actually, i need to clean up the narwhal. its a bit ragged. i did it this morn early. first time doing all inkscape and i had just imported a jpg. need to trace it and clean it up
[23:54] <iheartubuntu> Countdown Banner... 28 days until Ubuntu 11.04, 27 days, 26 days, etc
[23:55] <iheartubuntu> finally getting a chance to work with unity here
[23:55] <pleia2> kdub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/NattyCountdownBanner
[23:55] <iheartubuntu> so far i like it
[23:55] <iheartubuntu> couple things im not a fan of
[23:55] <iheartubuntu> like the menu options being in the top panel
[23:55] <iheartubuntu> switching workspaces is an extra step
[23:55] <kdub> sure are a lot of banners...
[23:56]  * crashsystems <3 global menus
[23:56] <iheartubuntu> but unity sure is much improved since SCaLE9x