| cyberanger | chris4585lappy: do you still use openbox too? | 01:26 |
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| cyberanger | chris4585: | 01:27 |
| chris4585lappy | cyberanger, well, not currently, but its a love affair type thing | 01:28 |
| cyberanger | and unity isn't shifting that? or is it? | 01:29 |
| chris4585lappy | I don't think you can use openbox with unity, unity needs compiz | 01:29 |
| chris4585lappy | unity 2d could possibly use openbox I assume | 01:30 |
| cyberanger | I didn't mean at the same time, more of your preference | 01:31 |
| chris4585lappy | oh, I'd love to use openbox but compiz, unity, gnome... all appeal to me also | 01:32 |
| cyberanger | I've barely tried unity (between server work and repairs, just haven't gotten to it) | 01:32 |
| chris4585lappy | I can't wait for unity in 11.10 | 01:33 |
| cyberanger | I can't see myself using kde or gnome again, openbox and lxde just are too snappy | 01:33 |
| chris4585lappy | depends | 01:33 |
| cyberanger | unity at the last trial (month ago?) was buggy enough to be unsure where it fits | 01:34 |
| chris4585lappy | yeah, now its a bit different, It doesn't crash on me anymore like it did 3 weeks ago | 01:34 |
| cyberanger | I've used natty more recently, but my openbox build | 01:35 |
| chris4585lappy | I'm a bit sad to see no gnome in 11.10 but oh well | 01:36 |
| cyberanger | so I'll have to fire that back up | 01:36 |
| chris4585lappy | I kind of want to try the latest gnome 3 stuff on ubuntu, I'm sure someone will try making a remake with it | 01:36 |
| cyberanger | yeah, that'll be intresting, gotten so many used to the lucid feel | 01:37 |
| cyberanger | one of us at least | 01:37 |
| cyberanger | we seem to be the two doing custom builds the most here | 01:39 |
| chris4585lappy | thats the stuff I really enjoy doing, its like my hobby... | 01:40 |
| chris4585lappy | cyberanger OH! we're getting cable in ~2wks | 01:41 |
| chris4585lappy | for sure | 01:41 |
| cyberanger | yeah, same here, I'd do it more often if I could | 01:41 |
| cyberanger | I need to remaster a live disc of a few builds too | 01:41 |
| cyberanger | oh, cool | 01:42 |
| cyberanger | where's the hughesnet going after that then? | 01:42 |
| cyberanger | modem and such? | 01:44 |
| chris4585lappy | I'm not sure, probably going on craigslist or something | 01:45 |
| chris4585lappy | if I had openbox, I'd probably use awn with dockbarx, then for a launcher I'd use synapse or something | 01:49 |
| chris4585lappy | I'd still use nautilus, because well I love it lol | 01:49 |
| cyberanger | really, I love pcmanfm myself | 01:53 |
| chris4585lappy | its alright for the most part | 01:54 |
| cyberanger | what's the modem model? hn7000s or hn9000 or another one? | 01:54 |
| chris4585lappy | 9000s | 01:54 |
| cyberanger | ouch | 01:55 |
| chris4585lappy | why? | 01:55 |
| cyberanger | that's a harder one to sell | 01:55 |
| chris4585lappy | lol well then | 01:55 |
| chris4585lappy | it does the job just fine for me lol | 01:55 |
| cyberanger | hughesnet upgraded stuff, so called spotbeam tech | 01:56 |
| cyberanger | and locked it down | 01:56 |
| cyberanger | nobody but their techs can really do much with them | 01:56 |
| chris4585lappy | oh | 01:57 |
| cyberanger | and due to that lockdown, it's a nightmare | 01:57 |
| chris4585lappy | meh, I like the webui on it | 01:57 |
| cyberanger | can't switch transponders, use another satellite, or take it outside your grid | 01:58 |
| cyberanger | without calling them, getting approval | 01:58 |
| cyberanger | and sometimes pay a fee or two | 01:58 |
| cyberanger | it's the same (mostly) webui as the hn7000s | 01:59 |
| chris4585lappy | ah, well I don't really need to do anything like that and such, just need internet | 01:59 |
| cyberanger | but I can throw than in a truck, drive to seattle, vancouver, maine, flordia | 01:59 |
| cyberanger | no questions asked | 02:00 |
| chris4585lappy | ah | 02:00 |
| wrst | chris4585lappy: have you tried gnome shell? | 02:01 |
| wrst | lately | 02:01 |
| cyberanger | you might not do that, but that's troubleshooting I could do, as long as it wasn't locked to HN (which was a call to my boss at minimum) | 02:01 |
| chris4585lappy | I've never really tried it, just once for a few minutes over a yar ago | 02:01 |
| chris4585lappy | year* | 02:02 |
| cyberanger | and that's hassles reselling it will have too | 02:02 |
| chris4585lappy | I'd like to try gnome-shell on fedora whenever it comes out | 02:02 |
| wrst | chris4585lappy: i tried the gnome 3.0 live cd... i was unimpressed | 02:02 |
| cyberanger | not saying it can't be done, selling it, just that it was so much easier when I did this every few days | 02:02 |
| cyberanger | wrst: really, what was the downside on gnome 3 | 02:03 |
| wrst | just clunky and weird to me, unity makes much more sense | 02:03 |
| cyberanger | ah | 02:04 |
| cyberanger | well, can't see myself using it or kde anymore | 02:04 |
| wrst | could have just been me, but i do think they both make gnome 2.x show its age a little bit | 02:04 |
| cyberanger | but gnome is ubuntu atm | 02:04 |
| chris4585lappy | cyberanger, I found someone in orlando selling it for $30 lol | 02:04 |
| chris4585lappy | another guy satellite + modem $100 | 02:05 |
| cyberanger | and that's what I give out (read: shoving down somebody's throat) | 02:05 |
| cyberanger | chris4585lappy: yeah, it's not price it's hassle | 02:05 |
| chris4585lappy | wrst, I'd like to try gnome3 fallback | 02:05 |
| cyberanger | unfortunately, if lubuntu doesn't shape up a little more, idk what I'll do down the road for low end rigs | 02:06 |
| chris4585lappy | for regular users? | 02:07 |
| wrst | cyberanger gnome on arch is good on low end machines | 02:09 |
| chris4585lappy | I agree with that, or lxde | 02:10 |
| cyberanger | lxde could be | 02:10 |
| cyberanger | chris4585lappy: new users really | 02:10 |
| chris4585lappy | well thats kind of what I meant | 02:10 |
| cyberanger | well, newer, using it for cost more than geek status | 02:11 |
| cyberanger | wrst: no......... not for a new guy | 02:11 |
| cyberanger | bbiab | 02:13 |
| wrst | no not for a new person at all unless you are admining it for them | 02:15 |
| wrst | chris4585: i think they need to do away with the black and orange | 02:45 |
| chris4585 | wrst, what black? | 02:49 |
| chris4585 | I only see purple and orange | 02:49 |
| chris4585 | and I love it | 02:49 |
| wrst | the panels and the window title bars | 02:49 |
| wrst | with the transparent dock seems like you would go transparent all the way | 02:49 |
| chris4585 | yeah kind of, personally I'd rather have true blur instead | 02:50 |
| chris4585 | that would be nice.. | 02:50 |
| wrst | yes i agree but transparency is an improvement | 02:57 |
| cyberanger | back | 03:04 |
| cyberanger | wrst: I would be, at first | 03:05 |
| cyberanger | end result is them doing it or not, and with ubuntu currently, it's too quick | 03:06 |
| cyberanger | xubuntu is also fast, getting someone to be enough of an admin | 03:06 |
| wrst | xubuntu seems about as bloated as gnome to me cyberanger | 03:07 |
| chris4585 | xubuntu has no purpose imo.. | 03:07 |
| chris4585 | why xfce was even born is beyond me | 03:07 |
| wrst | just seems strange to mee too chris4585 | 03:08 |
| cyberanger | my custom builds on openbox are a bit more automated, but not really faster than gnome (kinda a point where learning is learning) | 03:08 |
| cyberanger | true, it used to be better | 03:08 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, whats a good method for automating volume mounting in openbox? | 03:09 |
| cyberanger | part of that is due to the larger dependance now | 03:09 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: pcmanfm and nautilus make it as simple as clicking an icon | 03:10 |
| cyberanger | do you want it literally to automount? | 03:10 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, hrm ok, I guess I haven't really tackled this problem in 3 years | 03:10 |
| chris4585 | I always used rox fm | 03:11 |
| cyberanger | there might be a need for an underlying system like hal | 03:12 |
| cyberanger | pcmanfm doesn't afaik, nautilus might | 03:12 |
| cyberanger | crunchbang members had a few ways, not sure what got into the offical builds | 03:13 |
| cyberanger | I'm betting hal was what they did, for earlier builds | 03:18 |
| chris4585 | well when I get cable again I'll start doing more | 03:22 |
| cyberanger | and classes should be nearing their end | 03:33 |
| cyberanger | further helping | 03:33 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, I graduated HS back in Jan | 03:34 |
| chris4585 | lol | 03:34 |
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| cyberanger | chris4585: oh, uh.................. | 05:01 |
| cyberanger | a late Congrats is in order | 05:02 |
| cyberanger1 | chris4585: oh, uh.................. | 05:09 |
| cyberanger1 | a late Congrats is in order | 05:09 |
| === cyberanger1 is now known as cyberanger | ||
| chris4585 | its alright | 05:12 |
| cyberanger | it will be so much easier for you to bitorrent the internet now ;-) | 05:13 |
| chris4585 | mhm | 05:15 |
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| === west is now known as wrst | ||
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| === Xpistos1 is now known as Xpistos | ||
| Xpistos | hey er body | 16:16 |
| Xpistos | wrst | 16:16 |
| wrst | morning Xpistos what's up? | 16:20 |
| Xpistos | trying to track down a copy of joomla 1.0.0 | 16:21 |
| wrst | hmm | 16:21 |
| Juzzy | heh | 18:20 |
| Juzzy | wtf for | 18:20 |
| Juzzy | how many exploits are out for 1.0? ;/ | 18:20 |
| wrst | windows 8 anyone? http://www.withinwindows.com/2011/04/02/windows-8-secrets-windows-explorer-ribbon/ | 18:30 |
| Xpistos | yuck | 20:38 |
| wrst | ha ha thought that would be a well loved post | 20:46 |
| Mighty_Penguin | wrst, I got a funny message | 21:06 |
| Mighty_Penguin | I destroyed the server on which the site is hosted on. Please stand by while we ponder what to do next. In the mean time, you can read the Windows 8 articles on Paul's Supersite or even the Within Windows Facebook page. | 21:06 |
| wrst | ha ha | 21:07 |
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