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leapy0yovlc has multithread enabled by default , right?00:00
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hachrefds2: did it work?00:00
kostas13wasup00:01
bobmanukhachre: its seems to have found boot images which is exellent00:01
hachrebobmanuk: awesome00:01
bobmanukhachre: many thanks, only problem is, windows wasnt one of them... any thoughts?00:02
test34mickster04, exactly unless maybe if they have a program installed on your computer..00:02
hachrebobmanuk: once your ubuntu boots again, do the update-grub again from within it should find windows too then00:02
mickster04test34: eitherway, why would they stop the ls?00:02
mickster04test34: it's highly unlikely that the two are related imo00:02
bobmanukhachre: okidoke, i shall be back in a bit :)00:03
MoryddI'm trying to use gddrescue to recover data from a corrupt SD card. ddrescue -r 3 /media/disk /home/sean/backup/phone/image /home/sean/backup/phone/log Output: http://pastoid.com/b4800:03
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test34mickster04, you are right00:03
ac7ssmortu, The only thing that the ISP can do is limit the port being called. (I am ssh to a comcast client now, all comcast will see is a connection between the two computers, no content.)00:04
ac7ssmortu, s/client/customer/g00:04
leapy0yovlc has multithread enabled by default , right?00:04
ac7ssleapy0yo, what do you mean multithread?00:05
mickster04leapy0yo: why does it matter? if you are streaming then it has to be...00:05
kingcheese26hello people00:05
[clay]is there any reason why a smb entry in my /etc/fstab wouldn't mount on boot, but mounts find when i do mount -a ?00:05
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leapy0yoI mean is it cpu multithreaded for local files, is vlc that?00:06
ac7ss[clay], perhaps the network interface is not fully up when the boot mount command is issued.00:06
[clay]possible. how would i get around this, stick mount -a in my rc.local?00:06
gunny17hello kingcheese00:06
test34clay, does it have auto00:06
ac7ss[clay], are you dhcp or fixed Ip. (Fixed IP would be faster if an option.)00:07
test34nevermind..00:07
[clay]dhcp00:07
hachreis it wired00:07
OsmodivsI have a problem with my McroSD memory card, Ubuntu wont mount the MC, it recognizes the MC adaptor, but not the memory card00:07
[clay]yes00:07
[clay]wired00:07
tr3ntondon't know if anyone can help me... I need to re-install ubu on another hdd as I think my current one is about to cark it. The issue is to get net, I need to install additional drivers, but the router is on the other side of the house, and I don't currently have a network cable that long; is there a way I can copy the drivers from my existing install, and install it whilst being offline on the new install?00:07
mickster04leapy0yo: that doesn't make sense, why wouldit need multithreading? what are you doing with these local files? if you are just playing it doesn't need to be?00:07
ac7ss[clay], changing it to static IP will make the connection quicker to establish.00:08
[clay]tr3nton, take pc to router?00:08
[clay]:D00:08
snake_how can I tie my external IP to my device on my computer (eth0)00:08
[clay]ok i'll give that a shot. it's "static dhcp" anyway00:09
induzwhy I can not open pd file from web browser mozilla00:09
[clay]now to figure out how to lol00:09
tr3ntonhmm.. yeah. its possible. but a bit of a huge hassle.. thought there might be a way to extract drivers somehow? lol00:09
ac7sssnake_, You have to port forward in the router.00:09
induzsome pdf webbrowser is just plain back00:09
ac7ss[clay], it would be part of the ifup setup.00:09
hachretr3nton: how would you install the drivers if you had net00:09
snake_ac7ss, oh I tried that... damn you VERIZON!00:10
sdimkovCan someone compare Mutter and Compiz for me? Which has stronger community and therefore more rapid development. Which is currently outperforming the other ?00:10
tr3ntonSYstem -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers (10.04)00:10
ac7sssnake_, what port are you attempting to use?00:10
mickster04!compare | sdimkov00:10
mickster04sdimkov: opinions are best found in !offtopic00:10
hachretr3nton: ah those.. which ones do you need00:10
snake_ac7ss, 80. My ISP blocks every single port, and I somehow can still use the internet..00:10
snake_ac7ss, Verizon makes it tough.00:11
OsmodivsDoes anyone knows how to make Ubuntu recognize my memory card? It only recognizes the adaptor, not the memory card, just a few minutes ago it was working well00:11
tr3ntonhachre: its broadcom b43 wireless driver00:11
ac7sssnake_, is 8080 blocked? (usually anything above 8000 is not blocked.)00:11
snake_Osmodivs, mabye it's in backwards :P00:11
Osmodivssnake, nah00:12
GaryDwhy isn't gimp recognizing my ps brushes?00:12
Horse7gay00:12
Horse7gay00:12
FloodBot1Horse7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:12
ac7sssnake_, I believe there is some service out there that will be a proxy for you. bet I cannot help more than that.00:12
snake_ac7ss, one moment, I'll check on canyouseeme.org00:12
berniecan anyone explain how to make compiz the default window manager for a gnome session in ubuntu natty?00:12
snake_PROXY! why didn't I think of that :P00:12
hachretr3nton: its quite complicated, you should really hook it up with a wired connection and install it like that00:12
snake_I used a proxy to get on youtube at school!00:12
snake_and I didn't think of it here, in real life.00:13
tr3ntonhachre: oh ok no worries. thanks :)00:13
berniethe custom tab for choosing the window manager in gnome-appearance-settings is gone...00:13
hachretr3nton: it needs to download several things also based on your exact hardware that it figures out while you look at that menu00:13
bobmanukhachre: no dice, still get no OS found00:13
snake_ac7ss, no luck on port 8080. BUt thanks for the proxy idea.00:13
hachrebobmanuk: even though update-grub ran?00:13
ac7sssnake_, thanks for that site. Beware, if you over-use the connection, verizon can charge you for excessive traffic.00:14
hachrebobmanuk: maybe you need to install grub then00:14
bobmanukhachre: yeah, found linux, memtest8600:14
bobmanukprobably00:14
tr3ntonhachre: yeah. just looking at some ubuntuforums post. does like quite an in depth process00:14
dale_ok im having a problem here with dpkg... it seems to continuously run, even when i can find no program using it.00:15
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Riakuubuntu software center says: waiting for dpkg to exit00:15
powerpc_hi00:15
powerpc_how do I remove all desktop/X packages from ubuntu so that I get the console screen to login and operate?00:16
hachrebobmanuk: you need to go back into live, select your ubuntu drive in the UI, check sudo mount again in the console, look at its mountpoint e.g. /media/ubuntu and then do: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ubuntu/boot /dev/sda00:16
powerpc_(like -server would give me by default)00:16
bobmanukhachre: thanks, just mounting now, hate this, the mount path randomly changes and is very... long lol00:17
hachrebobmanuk: you can copy and paste it in the gnome-terminal00:17
bobmanukhachre: in the process of now00:17
Nick0001Someone had sucess in running Firefox 4 + flash on amd 64 machines?00:17
evilHi all.00:18
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Brwahi00:19
zimm3rWhen I use Grub Xubuntu boots fine but with Windows Grub errors saying Unrecognized Command: 'drivemap' (same if I just use map)00:19
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Logan_!flash64bit | Nick000100:19
ubottuNick0001: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava00:19
hachrebobmanuk: wait00:19
hachrebobmanuk: do you use grub or grub2, do you know?00:20
bobmanukgrub200:20
hachreok then continue00:20
megalinuxgfgyf00:20
_3vi1Here's a stupid question:  I was just trying the latest daily of Ubuntu (I'm primarily a Kubuntu user) in virtualbox, and it doesn't look like it's using the Unity desktop.  Did they back off on that decision, or what?00:20
Nick0001Ubottu is a bot? With firefox 3.6 plugin works ok, but with the FF 4 it says that the plugin arent installed00:20
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:20
bobmanukhachre: ok, it says grub2 installed without errors00:20
hachrebobmanuk: you should use update-grub2 within ubuntu then to fix windows00:20
hachregood luck on this reboot ;)00:20
Riakui seem to have a problem with dpkg if anyone can help... im pretty newb, but software center says "waiting for dpkg to exit" continuously for over 12 hours if i let it, and i cannot find anything using it.00:20
bobmanukhachre: sudo chroot /dev ?!?00:20
hachreno00:21
bobmanukhachre: i forgot00:21
hachrejust reboot00:21
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bobmanukok00:21
bobmanukbrb00:21
ejvhow do you ignore based on hostmask in irssi? :)00:21
_3vi1So, my question is:  For 11.04, are they using Unity or Gnome Panel?  I get the Gnome Panel when I log in to a fresh install. of the daily.00:22
hachreejv: i wuold say /ignore *!*@*host*00:22
mickster04ejv: ask them, this is ubuntu support :p00:22
viking667trying to fsck a ext4 filesystem on a vm, but the journal appears to be causing the jbd module to lock up. how can I get this filesystem sorted?00:22
ejvperfect, thanks hachre00:22
buhmanI have contacts in my evolution address book, but when I try to compose a message, I can't seem to make it *see* the contacts, even when I enter the search dialog.00:22
viking667vmware server, on Vista host, with maverick client00:23
powerpc_how do I delete all packages pertaining to a meta package?00:23
Jordan_Uhachre: The grub-install command you gave bobmanuk was incorrect. If you pass --root-directory= it needs to point to the *root* directory, not the boot directory.00:23
powerpc_a simple aptitude remove <metapackage> only deleted that one package (ubuntu-desktop)00:23
hachreJordan_U: shouldnt it fail then?00:23
Darkenvyhow can I scp wildcard but without a folder(s)?00:24
Darkenvyscp xxx@xxx:~/* [minus folder/file]00:24
mjw3763exit00:24
viking667scp user@host:/place/* ./00:24
hachreJordan_U: well thanks, i will give him the bad news once he is back ;)00:24
Darkenvyso If I dont want folder "dynmap" to copy then:00:24
Jordan_Uhachre: No, because grub is still installed, it's just going to look for a grub.cfg in /boot/boot/grub/grub.cfg instead of /boot/grub/grub.cfg (which means that bobmanuk will just get a grub shell at boot since no grub.cfg will be found).00:24
Darkenvyscp user@host:/place/* ./dynmap00:25
hachreJordan_U: ahh right00:25
hachreJordan_U: ok00:25
viking667Oh. I see. You don't want directories as well. tricky.00:25
hachreJordan_U: thanks!00:25
viking667sftp00:25
ninwaIs it possible to use the Ubuntu 11.04 software center with the reviews and ratings inside of Ubuntu 10.10?00:25
Jordan_Uhachre: You're welcome.00:25
Darkenvywell dynap is so huge and has 10000 files00:25
viking667darkenvy: you'd be better off to use sftp00:26
Brwais there a text editor  supported RTL direction like notepad++ in windows?00:26
Darkenvysame with another folder "beta" is symlinked and is 2GB big00:26
WeThePeoplehow do i check what version of ubuntu i am using in the terminal00:26
Darkenvybetter off? as in yuo dont know?00:26
ninwaBrwa, gedit does.00:26
viking667WeThePeople: cat /etc/issue00:26
hachreJordan_U: so if /boot is on a seperate filesystem it would actually fail without a symlink back to itself?00:26
DarkenvyI know exclusion cant be too hard00:26
Brwahow?00:26
ninwaBrwa, it's under Applications -> accessories -> text editor00:26
ninwaright click on an open part of the document00:26
viking667DarkEnvy: I don't hink scp does exclusion00:26
ninwait's under unicode control character, then rtl00:26
ninwaor I guess it's in there as RLE00:27
Brwai know it does but only part by part00:27
Darkenvywhat about copy and pasting exculsion?00:27
ac7ssWeThePeople, uname or do you want the '10.4' type information.00:27
Brwai have a document with 500 parts00:27
Darkenvymake a new dir and copy everything but00:27
hachrebobmanuk: i gave you a wrong command, wb00:27
hachrebobmanuk: did you get a grub shell?00:27
Brwai mean 500 lines00:27
bobmanukhachre: i got a grub command prompt yeah00:27
Jordan_Uhachre: No. Grub determines the path that should be embedded into the core.img with "grub-mkrelpath" so mount points are taken into account. There is also a separate --boot-directory= option.00:27
ninwaBrwa, hm. :) Not sure.00:27
viking667darkenvy: what the heck are you using?00:27
hachrebobmanuk: heh, sorry bout that, Jordan_U pointed out after you left i had a mistake in my command00:28
Darkenvyserver ubuntu00:28
hachreJordan_U: ahh ok :)00:28
bobmanukhachre: im on a laptop so i can do it on my pc while im on here lol00:28
hachrebobmanuk: you need to repeat what we just did00:28
Brwaany other tip/solutions ?00:28
viking667darkenvy: then what's wrong with using sftp interactively?00:28
Riakulets see im attempting to add ubuntu to a laptop im working on, formatted the harddrive, ect... for it, i begin to install, and it freezes, occasionally on the menu after choosign the language/try it/install, occasionally on the steps afterward, but it never finishes the installer00:28
Darkenvyim not installing ftp00:28
bobmanukhachre: ok loading the livecd again00:28
hachrebobmanuk: but this time the command is (sec)00:28
viking667scp probably doesn't do exclusion. I know it does recursion00:28
Darkenvyso what about cp a dir and exlude then?00:29
Darkenvythen I can scp that new dir00:29
hachrebobmanuk: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ubuntu /dev/sda00:29
viking667darkenvy: sftp is a ftp client that connects to a remote ssh server and pulls the files through your normal ssh link.00:29
hachrebobmanuk: the difference is we had a /boot attached to the path before00:29
viking667darkenvy: hm? where does it think you are?  pwd tells you00:39
ac7ss[clay], did you see my post before the split?00:39
Brwais there a text editor  supported RTL direction like notepad++ in windows?00:39
[clay]saying use anacron?00:39
bobmanukhachre: finds a linux, initrd, memtest86. no windows00:39
viking667brwa: I thought kate or gedit supported that?00:39
Brwano they don't00:39
Darkenvyim using nautilus00:39
_3vi1So... does anyone know why I get the Gnome Panel when I install the daily's in virtual box.  Did I miss a memo?  Is Unity being passed for this release?00:39
viking667uh.00:39
ac7ss[clay], yeah, or something in etc/init00:39
hachrebobmanuk: you are in your ubuntu the one that we just made bootable now?00:39
[clay]ac7ss, thing is i don't even see anything in dmesg saying there was a problem00:39
viking667sorry. I don't use RTL00:39
Darkenvygoing to /home only shows "ftp" a folder that doesnt exist when I ssh00:39
[clay]it's like it doesn't even try00:39
th0r_3vi1: try ubuntu+100:39
DarkenvyRTL?00:39
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Brwain notepad++ there is an action called Change direction RTL00:39
viking667weird. did you use this:   sftp -l user host00:39
bobmanukhachre: yes, im in the actual "proper" installed version of linux00:39
Darkenvyno00:39
cipher_Hi I just installed ubuntu 10.10 and am able to access the internet with a usb ethernet card; however my internal card will connect to a network, get a icmp response, however I can not actually connect to websites.00:39
Darkenvyconnect to server from gui00:39
maharajaguys, i am struggling with nfs permissions it shows nobody/nogroup issue00:39
hachrebobmanuk: strange it tshould find it...00:39
ruanBrwa: what is the function of that?00:39
ac7ss[clay], if it mounts fine later, then the issue can be resolved with a delayed mount.00:39
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maharajaany pointers? i checked the idmapd configs as well00:39
hachrebobmanuk: is it on the same disk?00:39
bobmanukhachre: may have to google this one, i think the loader may have taken a wonder off of that partition00:39
viking667DarkEnvy: so did you use:    sftp user@host   ?00:39
sdimkovCan someone compare Mutter and Compiz for me? Which has stronger community and therefore more rapid development. Which is currently outperforming the other ?00:39
Darkenvyno00:39
DarkenvyI want a GUI00:39
Brwachanging direction00:39
bobmanukhachre: yes, same disk00:39
hachrebobmanuk: what windows version is it00:39
cipher_I cannot connect to any websites for assistance help would be very appreciated :p00:39
viking667DarkEnvy: then fire up nautilus.00:39
bobmanukhachre: 700:39
Brwafrom LTR to RTL00:39
Darkenvythat is what im in viking00:39
ac7ss!compare | sdimkov00:39
Darkenvyomg this split suuuuuuucks00:39
hachrebobmanuk: well i can tell you how to get windows back to a working state but then your grub will be gone again00:39
bobmanukhachre: the boot DVD wont repair the boot either00:39
viking667darkenvy: and how are you trying to connnect to the remote host?00:40
bobmanuki tried00:40
Darkenvyyes00:40
DarkenvyI can get in just fine00:40
Darkenvysee all my dirs inlcuing /home00:40
hachrebobmanuk: you have to go into the recovery options -> open the console and enter bootrec /fixboot and bootrec /fixmbr00:40
viking667*blink* *blink*00:40
bobmanukhachre: done that00:40
hachrebobmanuk: then grub will be gone and windows should start00:40
Darkenvybut inside /home does not exist "minecraft"00:40
ruanDarkenvy: ctrl h00:40
Darkenvyit should be located at ~/minecraft00:40
bobmanukhachre: it says it worked, but when i reboot, no OS00:40
hachrebobmanuk: then i would say your windows boot stuff is severly borked00:41
Darkenvydoesnt help ruan00:41
hachrebobmanuk: maybe thats why it isnt found by grub00:41
ruanDarkenvy: is it in root?00:41
Darkenvyit acts like the flder doesnt exit00:41
Darkenvyyes00:41
DarkenvyI work in root when I ssh00:41
hachrebobmanuk: is the windows important to you?00:41
Darkenvyits also the only account on this server00:41
ruani mean, root of the drive or in your home dir?00:41
Darkenvy(using a server host)00:41
bobmanukhachre: i was hoping it wasnt coming to this lol, it kinda was yes, i have access to files and what not00:41
_3vi1Found the solution to my problem myself:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171735200:41
Darkenvyroot@xxxx.com00:41
hachrebobmanuk: well you can partition a drive, if you have the space on the same disk00:42
_3vi1http://chrisblunt.com/2011/04/02/ubuntu-11-04-beta-how-to-test-unity-in-virtualbox-4/00:42
hachrebobmanuk: install windows into that partition00:42
_3vi1l8r all.00:42
hachrebobmanuk: the new bootloader should also see the old windows and boot it too00:42
ruandrive root = the first directory of a drive00:42
ruanwell00:42
Darkenvyyes00:42
ruanok00:42
hachrebobmanuk: but the bootloader will be on the new partition not the old one so you cant get rid of it easily00:42
bobmanukhachre: i just didnt want to have to go throguh the windows reinstall, assignments are due in a few weeks... grrr, oh well, needs must00:42
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[clay]ac7ss, stuck mount -a in rc.local. things seem to behave00:42
hachrebobmanuk: yea if the recovery commands fail to fix htis00:42
hachrebobmanuk: i see no other way :/00:43
Traineesysadminare there any ubuntu server edition (NO GUI) that will work on 64 mb ram?00:43
ruanDarkenvy: what exactly are you looking for?00:43
Darkenvyhow to I get to ~/minecraft through nautilus sftp? I tried: "sftp://root@xxxx.com:~/minecraft" with no avail00:43
Darkenvyin my home folder is a folder named "minecraft"00:43
ac7ss[clay], sounds great00:43
bobmanukhachre: yeah... at least i have access to my install iso, i needed to burn a new copy anyway lol00:43
bobmanukcheers guys, have a great day/night00:43
hachrebobmanuk: cya!00:43
ruanDarkenvy: are you looking for /.minecraft? or did you make the dir 'minecraft' yourself00:43
Darkenvybut inside the home folder (when viewed in nautilus) the home folde ronly has "ftp" folder00:44
Brwaany developer can give me 5 minute in PM00:44
DarkenvyI made it myself00:44
Darkenvyinside /home00:44
bobmanukccna exam in about 12 hours.... ffffff :(00:44
ruanright..00:44
Darkenvyas root00:44
ruanftp, hmm00:44
fisch246anyone know what file points to or asks for "/usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/libcanberra-ready-sound.desktop"?00:44
hachreim calling it a night too00:44
hachrebye guys :)00:44
roddHi, does anyone knows a good alternative to gparted? this one crashes all the time00:44
Darkenvy"Could not find "sftp://root@xxxxx.com/home/minecraft"."00:45
OmegaDarkenvy: what is the username?00:45
Darkenvythats when I went to /home and typed in /minecraft myself00:45
th0rrodd: fdisk from the commandline00:45
Darkenvyusername is root00:45
kruxTraineesysadmin, without gui the server edition should work..00:45
Omegasftp://root@xxxxx.com/home/root/minecraft00:45
DrGrovdpjuve0600:45
Darkenvysame message00:46
DrGrovOh, damn. What was that? LOL00:46
ruanlol00:46
viking667 DarkEnvy: does your sshd_config contain AllowRootLogin: yes00:46
OmegaDarkenvy: Are you sure it's in root's home?00:46
Darkenvyyes I am sure omega00:46
Darkenvy~/minecraft00:46
Darkenvyidk viking66700:47
DarkenvyI have never has issues sshing before this00:47
viking667Darkenvy: see if that's an issue.00:47
DrGrovSorry for off-topic00:47
Darkenvywhere is it located? /etc/???00:47
danielcg25Xgnokii just says connection. Is something wrong?00:47
viking667/etc/ssh/sshd_config00:47
ruanyeah. can be opened from ssh as well00:47
viking667DarkEnvy: and why on EARTH are you running minecraft as the root user?00:48
Darkenvypermitrootlogin  = yes00:48
fisch246i'll take to that as a no... alright i'll wait for a response on the forums then00:48
viking667surely it doesn't require a port open < 1024?00:48
Darkenvyviking this is irrelevent00:48
Darkenvyits a dedicated server with one purpose ><00:48
viking667no, it's pretty relevant to your security issues, actually.00:48
viking667I would have created a minecraft user specifically to use minecraft.00:49
Darkenvybut not relevent to this issue00:49
viking667that way, you could have sucked the files over without the permitrootuser getting in the way. Currently yours is set so you can suck files over. What path is your minecraft directory, absolutely? (not relatively)00:49
DarkenvyI do ssh root@xxx.com:~/minecraft00:50
leapy0yohow do i configure mplayer's config file  ?  lavdopt=threads=2 or what?00:50
Darkenvyits /home/minecraft00:50
viking667darkenvy: that's why it's failing.00:50
Darkenvya manual folder I created00:50
DarkenvyI have said its location over 5 times already00:50
viking667your home directory for root user is usually pinned to /root00:51
Darkenvyit...00:51
Darkenvy...it is?00:51
SomelauwWhen using urxvt accents only work when mouse is inside the terminal window?00:51
viking667just because root creates a /home/minecraft doesn't mean that's automatically root's home directory too.00:51
markitoxswhy when I do ssh root@server alsamixer it doesnt work?00:51
fennucciis there a limit to how many OS's I can instal and partition on win7 machine00:51
snake_markitoxs, are you running the openssh-server on your server?00:51
markitoxssnake, yes, i get: Error opening terminal: unknown.00:51
snake_markitoxs, sorry, I actually just got into ssh today.00:51
markitoxsor if I try ssh root@server screen -rr  i get instead:  Must be connected to a terminal.00:51
guyinmassHey guys I asked this in #fluxbox and #chromium-support but nobody anwered--- any idea how to start chromium in fluxbox on ubuntu 10.10? I dont have an option for it anywhere :(00:51
DarkenvyDAMNIT00:51
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markitoxsruan, but it doesnt... ?00:51
Darkenvyanother split?00:51
DrGrovPerhaps time to keep the computer screen on and not just type random words00:52
DrGrovHow can I check in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS if I have the SSH server turned on?00:52
DrGrovI would need to get my SSH set up at home so I can easily access it from on trips00:52
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viking667DarkEnvy: so, ~/minecraft would look at /root/minecraft00:52
th0rDrGrov: ps -ax | grep sshd00:53
viking667if you specify scp root@host:/home/minecraft    you'll get the files under /home/minecraft00:53
snake_why so many disconnections?00:53
ruannetsplit?00:53
Flannelsnake_: network issues it seems00:53
viking667ruan: I smell a bit worse... DDNS, perhaps00:53
ruanirssi says there is currently no netsplit occurring though00:54
paisanofedora will hack your selinux just to mess up your fonts00:54
snake_!netsplit00:54
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit00:54
ruanoh i forgot. i turned joins/leaves off00:54
Darkenvyviking667 thanks00:56
cipher_My internal wireless card can ping google successfully and apt-get works. however every website will not resolve. wget would just display 0.0.0.0 as the ip address and fail.00:56
Darkenvyviking667 I dont ever usually work in root00:56
viking667DarkEnvy: that's why I don't NORMALLY work in root. Saves mistakes like yours.00:56
Darkenvyviking667 its this server host that preloads linux, always needed to BE root... blah blah00:56
viking667there's no reason why you can't set up another user to actually ssh in AS.00:57
DarkenvyI jjsut never made a user, thus now all my backup cron scripts are pointed to root ><00:57
viking667just the same as there's no reason to make minecroft run as root unless it requires a port below 102400:57
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Darkenvyno00:57
Darkenvyit doesnt00:58
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KamakaziQuestion of the day, my ubuntu install seems to have a ton of bass when I am watching movies, I have a 2.1 setup and onboard Realtec audio, is there any way to change the bass settigns?00:58
viking667then that's what I'd strongly advise. If someone has some sort of exploit against minecraft that can make the server dump out to some sort of shell/python/perl executable, you're screwed, in effect.00:58
viking667if it's running as its own user, it's harder to elevate privileges to root.00:59
cipher_I have updated info for my question: Hi i am able to ping google successfully and use apt-get; however I cannot connect to any websites :(. I am on ubuntu 10.10. I am able to connect however through a usb card.00:59
DarkenvyI see01:00
ac7ssKamakazi, try the sound preferances on the volume icon. or look into using amixer to adjust settings.01:00
Darkenvyso....01:01
viking667Meanwhile, I think I'll have to kiss my darn VM goodbye...01:01
Darkenvyif the path is ~/minecraft this = /root/minecraft when in root. if im in a user though than is ~/minecraft = /home/minecraft?01:01
ruan /home/user/minecraft01:02
viking667correct.01:02
Darkenvythat makes my cron scrips easy to port over then01:02
viking667i.e. whatever user you create could probably be called "minecraft"01:02
Darkenvyhow to update cron? Im new to it. just reload my script as the user? or....01:02
Darkenvyremove the script first then laod under user?01:02
viking667but then you'd need to be pointing at /home/minecraft/minecraft01:02
kruxruan what irc client you using to set join/leave to not show ?...01:02
ac7ssDarkenvy, crontab -e01:03
viking667krux: irssi01:03
ruankrux: im using irssi01:03
kruxahh  i see cool thanks :)01:03
ruan /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS     right?01:03
ruansomething like that01:03
soreaucipher_: How are you trying to access websites?01:03
cipher_wget / firefox01:03
cipher_My internal card will not work, which is odd did ubuntu drop support for some drivers?01:03
soreaucipher_: What is in /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver(s)?01:03
cipher_i am trying to use googles 8.8.8.8 and my router is also there01:03
soreaucipher_: What chip is your internal wifi?01:03
cipher_How can i check that01:03
soreaucipher_: First what is in /etc/resolv.conf01:03
cipher_soreau, apparently network manager modified it... (sorry) # Generated by NetworkManager01:03
cipher_domain domain.actdsltmp01:03
cipher_search domain.actdsltmp01:03
cipher_nameserver 192.168.0.101:03
cipher_nameserver 205.171.3.6501:03
soreaucipher_: And you can ping 192.168.0.1 ok?01:03
soreaucipher_: (and this is your router)01:03
cipher_yes, yes01:03
kruxawesome thank you01:04
soreaucipher_: Can you pastebin the output of 'sudo route' to paste.ubuntu.com ?01:04
DarkenvyI have to leave this channel01:04
Darkenvyso much spam form the splits01:04
krux  //ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS01:04
Darkenvythanks guys for your help01:04
Darkenvy/ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS01:04
Darkenvy><01:04
ruanlol01:05
Darkenvybetter01:05
kruxoh i was just pasting it but paste it in the wrong channel01:05
ac7ss/ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +parts +quits01:05
kruxso i don't forget it for later :)01:05
DarkenvyI know I know01:05
ruanonly works on irssi01:05
cipher_soreau: the tables are from my external wlan1 device; not my problem eth1 card.. http://paste.debian.net/112890/01:05
Shawn727Hey all i need help01:06
soreaucipher_: That's not paste.ubuntu.com..01:06
cipher_:(01:06
soreaucipher_: You'd better head over to ##networking01:06
Kamakaziac7ss: Any suggestions for a mixer?01:06
cipher_:S01:07
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snake_How can I set up a Reverse Proxy on ubuntu 10.10 64-bit With Apache2 as a part of the latest LAMP01:07
aeon-ltdShawn727: don't ask to ask, just ask01:07
ac7ssKamakazi, amixer is the program.01:07
pooliehi01:07
Kamakaziac7ss: oh...lol01:07
ac7ssKamakazi, it is shell.01:07
pooliei just upgraded my laptop to natty01:07
pooliewhen i run it connected to an external monitor, both the internal and external screens go black01:07
ac7ssKamakazi, your player may have a mixer as well.01:07
ruanpoolie: natty support only in #ubuntu+101:07
* adilbenseddik hey!! many thx!! it works!!01:07
pooliethanks01:07
danileigh79hiya ruan01:07
ruanhi01:08
soreaucipher_: Or just try sudo route del default && sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.101:08
danileigh79wanna apologize to all from last night, i know i was being a pain01:08
Kamakaziac7ss: just using the default Ubuntu movie player, so no mixer there01:08
soreaucipher_: Not sure if that syntax is exactly correct..01:08
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soreauShawn727: Why are you pmming me?01:09
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pooliesoreau, he's pinging me too01:09
mrothh`anyone gotten logmein client, to work in any broswser in linux buntu 10.1001:10
starZany new about gdm2 on 10.10 ??01:10
soreau! pm | Shawn72701:10
ubottuShawn727: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.01:10
starZcan I start gnome sessions without gdm2 on 10.10?01:14
starZcan I start gnome sessions without gdm2 on 10.10?01:15
yuskhanzabhv anyone try the 11.04 beta release?01:15
ac7ssKamakazi, try qamix it may have a bass channel for your sound card.01:15
aeon-ltdstarZ: yes, you should be able to start any x session with startx and a .xinitrc file01:15
snake_yuskhanzab, my friend did, it broke his package system.01:15
danileigh79running 10.04, do i wanna dl gnuboy-sdl or gnuboy-x for a game boy emulator?01:16
yuskhanzab...01:16
snake_yuskhanzab, I would wait if you haven't updated yet. wait until it's a normal release.01:16
starZaeon-ltd: cool!! but what about my session settings?01:16
yuskhanzabi see, then ill have to wait too01:16
yuskhanzabthx snake_01:16
snake_danileigh79, you can use a windows emulator, with WINE.01:17
snake_yuskhanzab, yourwelcome, Jesus loves you.01:17
danileigh79snake_: I haven't been successfull with Wine, maybe doing it wrong?01:17
snake_danileigh79, oh... nvm, I only tried it with NoCa$h01:17
snake_which is GBA01:17
mrothhoh01:18
mrothh`anyone gotten logmein client, to work in any broswser in linux buntu 10.1001:18
danileigh79snake_: I usually use smygby for windows for gameboy and visualboy advnce for gba, but visualboy advance on linux doesn't play reg gb games right01:18
induzwhy canot I see some pdf on Mozilla01:18
induz all updates are uptodate01:19
induzi get a blank page01:19
danileigh79induz: I have that issue even with ff on windows01:19
snake_Ugh... I got kicked off of an Urban Terror server for friendly fire :P01:19
induzwhat does that mean01:19
danileigh79induz: try chrome?01:19
odio_danileigh79:  not sure exactly  but  try  the  sdl first and see if it is what you want01:19
snake_danileigh79, it's probly a bios problem.01:20
induzI have  midori01:20
danileigh79odio_: thx, just dl'd it through software center01:20
ruanis there an application like hamachi which works between a smartphone and ubuntu?01:20
danileigh79what is difference between sdl binaries and x binaries?01:21
snake_HAMACHI!!!!01:21
viking667sdl can be run on a framebuffer.01:21
snake_sorry.01:21
danileigh79viking667: thx01:21
ruanlol01:21
bob__I don't have any problem with pdfs with firefox - but I have 4G memory01:21
snake_Can someone point enlighten me on where to start with creating a Reverse Proxy server?01:23
cipher_soreau: the command did not work, #networking doesn't like me :-/. Thanks for your help anyway.01:24
phoenixsamprashelp!! what is the package name for the svn command ?01:24
cipher_one sec01:24
genii-around!info subversion01:24
ubottusubversion (source: subversion): Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.12dfsg-1ubuntu1.2 (maverick), package size 362 kB, installed size 1148 kB01:24
ruanyep01:25
daniel_hey anyone one want to help me conect my conect to the inertnet via eithernet its not detecting the cord and i know the cord works cause i use it for my 36001:25
induzdaniel3, thanks i got it working..but why this happen??01:25
soreaucipher_: What makes you think ##networking doesn't like you?01:25
induzi opened it on midori01:25
cipher_soreau; I personify everything.01:25
snake_is there an auto tune app for ubuntu linux?01:25
cipher_And they have not responded01:25
soreaucipher_: Some channels are not as busy as this one and you have to wait patiently after explaining your issue thoroughly01:26
soreaucipher_: Don't take it personal, just give them as much information as you can and explain what the problem is01:26
aeon-ltdstarZ: sorry for the late reply, but settings as in...?01:26
daniel_hello would anyone be bale to help me make my eathernet card work on my dell inspiron 1300 it wont detect the cord and i know the cord works because i use it for my 36001:27
soreauShawn727: This is your last warning. Quit pmming me.01:28
ruanis there an application like hamachi which works between a smartphone and ubuntu?01:29
mrothhsnake_ I knwo I can get hamachi, but logmein client (I need to get in to some systems)01:29
soreaudaniel_: What do you mean 'detect the cord'? You mean you can't ping whatever it's plugged into on the other side?01:29
tioxPeople just hurt for attention.01:29
bazhangtiox, pardon?01:30
tioxFlooding.01:30
mrothhruan hamachi runs on linux01:30
ruanmrothh: yes but not on my phone01:30
mrothhso if you have a droid, it linux based so I guess youc an por tit01:30
daniel_soreau, not sure what ping means but like when i conect the cord the networking tool doesnt change like when i conect to wifi on my other ubuntu computer01:30
mrothhruan open vpn will work on android01:30
ruanim not on an android, im on a nokia 523001:30
ruanwhich is on symbian s60v501:31
ac7ssruan, hamachi has a linux beta.01:31
tioxANyway, package "libreoffice-evolution" 1:3.3.1 wants to remove libreoffice 3.3.2; Requesting somebody capable to make a new release of libreoffice-evolution compatible with the most recent libreoffice update.01:31
soreaudaniel_: Did you set it to auto eth0?01:31
mrothhtry the hamachi for linux, and compile it on your phone01:31
ruanmrothh: impossible01:31
ruanmrothh: executables wont work01:31
daniel_soreau, how would i go about doing that ?01:31
soreaudaniel_: What is the cord plugged into at the other end? Your router?01:31
mrothhac7ss how do I get the logmein client, to work on some broswer in linux, right  only works in chrome, using flash (yuck)01:32
ruanmy phone will only execute packages installed by .sis or .jar or .sisx01:32
snake_shawn 727 is trying to get free xbox live from us for some reason, I told him to pray... but I'm not sure if he agreed to that.01:32
mrothhoh I see sorry ruan01:32
daniel_soreau, yes to my router01:32
soreaudaniel_: Do you know the IP of the router?01:32
mrothhruan try the open vpn app for yoru phone01:32
mrothhand open vpn on the ubunt ubox01:32
snake_I say kick him.01:32
ruanmrothh: where is that?01:32
tioxKick his @$$ into the next week.01:32
mrothhgoogle ruan01:32
daniel_soreau, no but isnt it easy to find idk how but i herd thats an easy thing to find01:33
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soreaudaniel_: Does ifconfig show an eth0 interface?01:33
daniel_soreau, should i run that in the terminal?01:33
soreaudaniel_: ifconfig is a command you run in your terminal, yes01:34
daniel_hmm ill connect the computer using my phone and pastebin it give me one sec caus ei have no clue what showed up01:34
soreaudaniel_: I have to run01:35
daniel_soreau, darn is there a  quick hting i can tell u off this ?01:35
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snake_netsplit?01:40
bullgard4Synaptic: "SQLite is a C library that implements an SQL database engine." What package contains this C library?01:42
EmuAlertI'm trying to input a directory with a space and a single apostrophe in it (like ~/joe's files). How do I properly escape it?01:43
DrGrovHow can I check in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS if I have the SSH server turned on?01:43
DrGrovI would need to get my SSH set up at home so I can easily access it from on trips01:43
FlannelEmuAlert: the easiest way to do it is to tabcomplete and let bash escape it for you.  If you want to do it manually, slashes.01:44
folornwhats the full address to this server ?01:44
folornis it irc.freenode.net?01:45
Flannelbullgard4: libsqlite0 is the library itself, the package 'sqlite' also contains the command line interface.01:45
Flannelfolorn: chat.freenode.net01:45
sackerDrGrov: /etc/init.d/ssh status01:45
Logan_folorn: yes01:45
folornso irc or chat works?01:46
russjr08folorn, yes01:46
rwwfolorn: correct, as does irc.ubuntu.com and various other aliases. The official one is chat.freenode.net, though.01:46
LewocoI'm using as xfwm4 as the wm instead of metacity but none of the xfce keyboard shortcuts work. Any suggestions?01:46
DrGrovsacker: How do I know there is no attempted hacking brute force attacks going on?01:47
DrGrovsacker: I wrote "ssh status" and it says it does not recognize host01:48
starZany topic about gdm2 ??01:48
SomelauwDoes anyone know how to scroll in urxvt without mouse?01:48
c001is the intel i7 640M quad core or dual core?01:48
DrGrovsacker: ssh status01:48
DrGrovssh: Could not resolve hostname status: Name or service not known01:48
SomelauwI already tried pageUp/Down.01:48
arandSomelauw: Maybe shift+pgup/dn01:48
arandSomelauw: Otherwise, using a pager, or screen, is convenient01:49
starZtry fn page up and down01:49
Somelauwarand, thanks shift pageUP/Down works01:49
starZany topic about gdm2 ??01:50
sackerDrGrov: Then you more then likely dont have openSSH installed01:50
SomelauwDo you also know how to fix that I can type accents when my mouse isn't inside the console window.01:50
Flannelsacker, DrGrov: just "ssh status" is calling the ssh client, trying to connect to "status", not checking the status of the server.01:50
sackerFlannel: Well I told him to type /etc/init.d/ssh status not just ssh status01:52
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EmuAlertCould someone point me to a good bash guide?01:53
PolahEmuAlert: You're in one. We can help you with any bash questions you may have01:53
danielcg25EmuAlert, Get a sledge hammer01:54
[V13]Axel I installed FGLRX on Ubuntu 10.04.2 with an ATI Radeon 4200HD Mobility, and performance became degraded, so I decided to revert to the bundled open source ATI drivers. I removed FGLRX, and now Ubuntu is trying to load the FGLRX module open boot. I installed the Radeon packages, but no avail. Anyone able to help?01:54
th0rEmuAlert: tldp.org01:54
EmuAlertWell, I mean one that explains all of the syntax and stuff. th0r: thanks01:55
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[V13]AxelRebeccaBlack: Lawl at your nick.01:56
danielcg25hahaha01:56
bullgard4Flannel: '~$ find / -name 'libsqlite0' 2>/dev/null; /usr/share/doc/libsqlite0.' This is obviously no library file. Did you make a mistake?01:56
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jtannenbaumis there a music manager for ubuntu that allows for multiple music libraries01:57
jtannenbaumrhythmbox only lets you have one01:57
Flannelbullgard4: libsqlite0 is the package file.  The actual library file is /usr/lib/libsqlite.so.0 and .so.0.8.6 (in maverick)01:57
Corehello! can anyone help me with a networking problem?01:57
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deathcatok first time chatting in this app01:58
Corehello! can anyone help me with a networking problem?02:00
folornwell dont ever go to ##blackhats all they do is destroy your computer... :(02:00
mickster04!details | Core02:01
ubottuCore: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:01
arupabhavacore:  what's your problem?02:01
induzwhat should be the standard font size for the mozilla browser02:02
induzIt used to be 18 now i its 1002:02
induzany one02:02
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arupabhavacan't that just be changed in the preferences?02:03
induzyes but what should be the standard size for visibility02:03
Coreok.. sorry .. so.. my problem is the following: I had xubuntu 8.04 and upgraded it to 10.4. My problem is that I connect to my linux computer via tightvnc (video chip burned) and I need to have 2 network connection: wired and wifi. The problem is that when I try to connect to a wireless network it disconnects from the wired network. I used network-manager and wicd02:03
induzis it trial an error way to set standard font?/02:04
arupabhavainduz:  my standard is serif size 16.02:04
arupabhavajust depends on what you want, i suppose.02:05
induzLET ME TRY 16??02:05
mrbraindeadwho has aops?02:05
induzSHOULD IT BE SAN SERIF OR JUST SERIF??02:06
induz sorry for tha cps02:06
induzcaps02:06
arupabhavamine is just serif02:06
Flannelmrbraindead: If you need to speak to an operator, you can always find them in #ubuntu-ops02:06
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induzarupabhava, 16 makes sense I mean its clear now02:07
induzbut i kept it to sans serif02:07
bullgard4Flannel: Thank you very much for your help.02:07
arupabhavareally, should just be what you like reading at.02:07
jiyonhello... need assistance with an new ubuntu 10.10 install02:08
Corecan anyone tell me please how can I have 2 network connections simultaneously (wired and wireless)02:08
mickster04induz: comic sans clearly :p02:08
bullgard4jiyon: This is given in help.ubuntu.com02:08
mickster04core how did you achieve that previously>02:09
mickster04?02:09
ssquirrelhai02:09
induzi am using segoe fonts mickster0402:09
Flanneljiyon: Your best bet is to just ask the question you have, and someone will answer if they can help.02:09
jiyonbullgard4... i've looked there and elsewhere on my issue and found nothing to help me out02:09
Coreno02:10
bullgard4jiyon: If so you better describre more precisely where exactly you got stuck.02:10
bullgard4-r02:10
CoreI have xubuntu 10.4 and using tightvnc to connect. If I connect to wireless wired gets dissconnected.02:10
ubudorkjoin /#ubuntu+102:11
mickster04Core: are you sure it gets diconnectde?02:11
mickster04Core: did you do ifconfig in terminal to check?02:11
ubudorkwhat is the join cannel command?02:11
Polahubudork: /j or /join02:11
ubudorktnx02:11
jiyonok... the install went fine... was using the install for a while... then i remember poking around and slecting an option that said "don't prompt me for password on login"  ... now after rebooting... i cannot login.02:12
Corewell I can no longer connect to my machine.. and i have to reset it manually. I can't   look exactly what's going on there because my video chip is fried02:12
Koritsahello, there's someone here?02:12
cool?02:13
induzI think 12 is better02:13
coolfirst time here02:13
Koritsahey, someone can tell me if ubuntu come's with c++ and java dev tools?02:13
cooljust need some help to install the sound card02:13
cooldriver02:13
mickster04Core: so you have a pc with no graphical device connected to a wired connection? you are ssh ing in or how are you using it?02:13
Koritsaor i need to download it after i download ubunto?02:13
Koritsaubuntu*02:13
mickster04Core: it should auto install? are you not getting any sound?02:13
coolyep. not sound02:14
mickster04!java | Koritsa02:14
ubottuKoritsa: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.02:14
jiyonwhen i choose my username on the GUI... after a while it says: Could not update ICEauthority file /home/jhsoper/.ICEauthority02:14
hachreI have just installed 11.04 and my USB Audio Headset has got a very low volume, is this a well known problem? Anything I can do? All the sliders are on max already...02:14
coolI just install the amarok02:14
coolto try a mp302:14
Coresound and everything is ok when I log with vnc02:14
coolnot hear anything.02:14
mickster04Core: are you sure your sound isn't muted?02:14
Corethe only problem is that I can't have both wired and wireless connection at the same time02:14
mickster04Coo: are you sure your sound isn't muted?02:14
coolI check the mixer02:14
mickster04cool: are you sure your sound isn't muted?02:14
coolno muted02:14
Koritsa:\02:14
mickster04sory Core wrong nick :/02:15
izinucscool: install ubuntu-restricted-extras ... vlc had the codecs built in.. amorak doesn't..02:15
Corenp02:15
invisiblekKoritsa, youll need to install them afterwards02:15
cooloh02:15
Koritsashould i download the new ubuntu (10.10 i think or something) or the 04?02:15
DarkStar1anyone virtualise ubuntu and know how I can retrieve files from the host OS?02:15
coolok02:15
coolI go and try it02:15
mickster04Core: ok so how sure are you that it won't connect to both?02:15
invisiblekKoritsa, probably 10.1002:15
russjr08Koritsa, It's recommended to do 10.04 or 10.1002:15
invisiblek11.04 will be out next month02:16
Koritsa:}02:16
coolthanks for help02:16
Koritsaso 10.10 or 10.04?02:16
invisiblekerr, this month already02:16
invisiblekhmm02:16
ssquirrelit is ? can you upgrade?02:16
russjr08Koritsa, yes, 11.04 comes out on the 28th02:16
izinucscool: did it work?02:17
Koritsalisn, i want a linux dis' that is user friendly and also comes with c++ and java dev tools (editor and compiler, also php, mysql and an http server) is ubuntu is up to it02:17
Koritsaor i'll need to download and install everything from scraps02:17
Koritsacuz' i remember slack and redhat used to come with everything when i used linux02:17
invisiblekKoritsa, ubuntu is perfect, you just need to install the packages for what you want to do02:18
coolstill downloaing02:18
Koritsabut that was years ago02:18
izinucsKoritsa: of course.. sudo tasksel then in the menu choose LAMP for php, mysql and apache .. sudo install build-essential for c++ stuff and other02:18
PolahUbuntu is up to it02:18
invisiblekubuntu runs mostly on binaries, so they dont include development stuff by default02:18
izinucsKoritsa: look in synaptic package manager for all the Java stuff02:18
hackblood^_^02:18
PolahYou might want to grab Sun Java instead of OpenJDK and you'll have to install Apache/MySQL/PHP yourself after installing the system02:18
mickster04Koritsa: ubuntu is a user system mainly, not a dev suystem, but it is more than capable.02:19
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Koritsadamn, so that will take hours or it will be easy? is there a pckg system or something like that which make everything shitly easy?02:19
izinucsKoritsa: easy.. how fast is your internet connection?02:19
Koritsa5mb02:20
Somelauwgcc is default in every distro as a C++ compiler02:20
izinucsKoritsa: you could download and install everyting through synaptic in less than 15 minutes probably02:20
SomelauwFor java, you want ubuntu-restricted extras02:20
Koritsayeah i know. is ubuntu comes with gcc/02:20
Koritsa?02:20
Koritsa*02:20
RedBallzHello!02:21
Danielcg25_iPod02:21
izinucsKoritsa: build-essential is a meta package containing compilers etc..02:21
RedBallzCan someone help me please ?02:21
izinucsRedBallz: just ask your question02:21
Core@mickster04 I know because when I connect to a wifi network it says dissconnecting active connections02:21
mickster04Koritsa: then it'll take you like 15 mins or so, you just have to work out what you need, that can be slightly ctime consuming, but just use synaptics package manager or apt-get interminal02:21
Koritsai should explain that i dont own an ubuntu right now, and i didnt touch linux for serveral years now02:21
linux_is_my_herohow do i convert pdf to doc?02:21
coolwell. I try vlc02:21
linux_is_my_hero*.pdf to *.doc?02:21
coolstill no sound02:22
SomelauwKoritsa: Editors and ides depend a lot on personal preference, but there is a lot to choose from.02:22
RedBallzI just installed BlackUbuntu. And my graphics card is not working well, so I downloaded the driver from the webpage. How do i run the extension .run ?02:22
Koritsai guess theres a app-manager like the android app or something in ubuntu now... yes?02:22
linux_is_my_herokoritsu: ubuntu software center02:22
russjr08RedBallz, you need to use the Terminal02:22
SomelauwCopy-paste everything from the pdf and put it into a doc.02:22
russjr08sudo ./filename.run02:22
linux_is_my_herokoritsu: and u can add ppa's and repositories to expand the list of software in the ubuntu software center02:22
RedBallzHow can I work with it ?02:23
viking667Gah. Disconnected, and I wasn't even aware of it.02:23
russjr08but first you probably need to chmod +x filename.run02:23
hachreI have just installed 11.04 and my USB Audio Headset has got a very low volume, is this a well known problem? Anything I can do? All the sliders are on max already... <- solved by upping the volume via alsamixer.... this bug also existed in 10.10 and 10.04 im gonna report this now02:23
Polahhachre: 11.04 is in Beta. We will/cannot help you. Ask in #ubuntu+102:23
mickster04linux_is_my_hero: uhm no, use open office or some other office program that can read and write to each02:24
Koritsaok. so what you guys says like thing - i should install ubuntu (i guess the 04 is better... right?) and then run the software center, install all the things i want (php, apache, java, cpp, mysql and my fav prog' editor that can handle all those prog' lang')02:24
Koritsaright/02:24
Koritsa?02:24
SomelauwOr ask the creator of the pdf for the source (although there are a lot of tools to create pdf's)02:24
hachrePolah: Yeah, but it also affects 10.10 and 10.0402:24
Polahhachre: Hardware issue then?02:24
hachrePolah: thanks for the advice though02:25
ssquirreldepends ... I have ubuntu server 10.10 and I installed everything from sources02:25
ssquirrelhehe02:25
Koritsa...02:25
hachrePolah: its a standard usb audio device02:25
ssquirrelhttp://shellbox.nvita.org02:25
ssquirrel:)02:25
mickster04linux_is_my_hero: i would try using open office, then file>save as02:25
hachrePolah: but no worries ill report this as a bug on launchpad in a sec02:25
Polahkoritsa: If you're running a webserver you won't (shouldn't) have the GUI and thus no software centre02:25
Koritsadamn lags02:25
coolgot to go.02:26
Polahhachre: Doesn't mean it isn't broken. Or your audio hardware for your PC02:26
coolfind out later02:26
linux_is_my_heromickster04: what character set? and what paragraph break?02:26
ezyhello folks, is there a command that gives the model of my graphics card ?02:26
bullgard4Why does Maverick need a »SQLite shared library« (package libsqlite0) and at the same time a »SQLite 3 shared library« (package libsqlite 3-0)?02:26
RedBallz I just installed BlackUbuntu. And my graphics card is not working well, so I downloaded the driver from the webpage. How do i run the extension .run ?02:26
hachrePolah: it isn't broken.02:27
bullgard4ezy: lspci02:27
Polahhachre: Does it work on anything before 10.04 or another operating system?02:27
hachrePolah: there are people on ubuntuforums.org with this same issue and posts from early 201002:27
mickster04linux_is_my_hero: uhm what? open office should just be able to open the pdf?02:27
viking667RedBallz: check it out with a text editor first.02:27
hachrePolah: it works on mac os and windows of course02:27
linux_is_my_heromickster04: it came out with jibberish.02:28
RedBallzviking667: Already done, and it's a lot of codes02:28
Polahhachre: driver issue with Linux/Ubuntu then most likely02:28
hachrePolah: the only problem is that the alsa volume is set to 1%02:28
ezythanks bullgard402:28
hachrePolah: and all the ui sliders in ubuntu dont handle the alsa volume02:28
mickster04linux_is_my_hero: have you googled pdf converter? and does it open the file ok? finally, why do you need to ocnvert it? can't you get a copy of the original?02:28
viking667what does the top part of it say? Is it like a shell script?02:28
Koritsawhat's the different betwn ubuntu 10.10 and 10.04?02:28
hachrepolah: since many others have usb audio issus with different headsets I would guess it is like that for all usb audio devices02:29
mickster04Koritsa: one is LTS02:29
Polahhachre: Look for a command to increase volume?02:29
hachrePolah: my original post stated that i have solved this02:29
viking66710.04 has support for ... five years?02:29
viking667(or is it two?)02:29
hachrePolah: I just posted it here because I asked it myself02:29
hachrePolah: and I included the question with the answer, thats all02:30
Koritsaok, and will 04 will upgrade auto when 11.o4 will comeout next month?02:30
sillavI think I have removed a package that was used by network-manager to show the current connection status. Currently, the icon showed in the notification area is a static icon of a missing icon, regardless of connection status. It still works fine, just looks ugly and isn't as useful. Here is what it looks like: http://tinypic.com/r/2s8ss61/702:30
trismbullgard4: sqlite3 introduced a new database format that isn't compatible with the new version, and some apps haven't upgraded02:30
sillavneed help figuring out what's broken02:30
russjr08Koritsa, Update Manager will ask you if you want to update02:30
Koritsabut it will right?02:30
russjr08If you click Upgrade, yes02:31
bullgard4trism: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.02:31
Koritsaand 10.10 wont do it?02:31
atari2600ahey, I need t oknow how to force the recovery console on bootup02:31
PolahKoritsa: Both of them will02:31
russjr08I think in 10.10 it will to02:31
Koritsaallright02:31
Polahatari2600a, hold shift in boot, then select recovery mode on the GRUB menu02:31
atari2600aI noticed you can do it via gdm now yay02:31
Koritsasorry for the dumb ques':}02:31
RedBallzviking667: Please help D:02:31
atari2600aPolah: tried that, never seems to work02:31
russjr08Koritsa, there is no such thing as a dumb question02:31
alishahhi, where can i download COLOR SCHEMES for gedit. I want IDLE's color scheme for gedit.02:32
Koritsarussjr08 :D02:32
izinucsKoritsa: you can't update from 10.04 to 11.04 but you can update from 10.04 the next LTS release02:32
atari2600aawakening: google02:32
bullgard4atari2600a: I presume you are using Grub. Grub offers "recovery mode". You may need to press the Shift key when booting up in order to see the "recovery mode" entry.02:32
PolahKoritsa, russjr08, Ubuntu will try to update to the latest version unless you set "Show New Distribution Releases" to Never or "Long term support releases only". LTS releases are set to LTS only by default and you'll need to change it to Normal releases to upgrade to non-LTS02:32
russjr08izinucs, if you run update-manager -d it will02:33
RedBallz I just installed BlackUbuntu. And my graphics card is not working well, so I downloaded the driver from the webpage. How do i run the extension .run ?02:33
atari2600abullgard4: again, I am, but shift never seems to pull up the menu02:33
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atari2600ameh02:33
Koritsawow, linux today is much more friendly than it was when i used to touch it02:33
atari2600athanks02:33
bullgard4atari2600a: What do you mean by "again"?02:33
PolahRedBallz, look at the contents with gedit or similar to determine what kind of file it actually is02:33
RedBallz.run file02:34
RedBallzPolah: where I have to look at.02:34
Koritsais there a way i will reach my ubuntu throught windows so i wont need to restart everytime?02:34
DARKGuyHey, could anybody help me in setting up a PAN (Personal Area Network) using Bluetooth ("Bluetooth PAN daemon version 4.91") with two computers running 10.10 ? I'm getting Connection Refused (111) and using blueman-applet doesn't work because it says that Network Manager couldn't set up the connection :(02:34
PolahRedBallz: Just open it in gedit, perhaps pastebin part of the contents (unless it's all garble and makes no sense)02:34
Polahkoritsa: You could install using WUBI02:35
union131hello02:35
excelsiorhey hey hey02:35
union131i need some help02:35
Polah!ask | union13102:35
ubottuunion131: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:35
bullgard4Koritsa: There is. But not to be recommended.02:35
union131ok sorry, I am experiencing some problems with my network connection02:35
excelsiorI thought wubi wasn't recommended02:36
union131It wont stay connected02:36
bullgard4! details | union13102:36
ubottuunion131: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:36
excelsiorBesides, doesn't it just run Ubuntu in a virtual machine in Windows?02:36
russjr08for long term use I don't think it is recommended02:36
Polahexcelsior, I wouldn't recommend it, a separate partition is better.02:36
RedBallzPolah: http://pastebin.com/hEaKtkeY02:36
russjr08I agree with Polah02:36
excelsiorThought so02:37
PolahRedBallz: Yes it's a .sh. change the extension to .sh, mark it as executable and run it02:37
adilbenseddikhi, how can I set automatic login with gdm2 on ubuntu 10.10?02:37
WXZI deleted a folder on an NTFS drive in lucid, what utility could I use to get it back?02:37
excelsiorgood night everybody!!!02:37
RedBallzPolah: Mark as exectutable? I am kinda new on this.02:37
bullgard4adilbenseddik: Not to be recommended for security reasons.02:37
Koritsais theres a way to reach ubuntu, after installed, from my windows, so i wont need to restart all the time?02:38
PolahWXZ: file recovery for NTFS in Linux isn't well supported. You'd be better using a Windows program for that02:38
* adilbenseddik hi, how can I set automatic login with gdm2 on ubuntu 10.10?02:38
WXZPolah: but I deleted the file through ubuntu02:38
PolahRedBallz: open up a terminal, navigate to the directory it is in, do "chmod +x <file>.sh", then do "sh <file>.sh"02:38
PolahWXZ: Look in your rubbish bin then?02:38
WXZPolah: no, it's not there. also, I didn't really delete it, I saved a file over the same location02:39
induzwhat is a good downloader like Delugde??02:39
induzDeluge02:39
alexUnderhas anyone tried global menu in ubuntu? =/02:39
PolahWXZ: I don't know about recovering files that way02:39
union131I am running on ubuntu 10.10, my laptop keeps disconnecting, it's kinda old(toshiba tecra 8000, 1990) i  bought a linksys wireless adapter, i have to keep unpluging the adapter then put it back in, it only stays connected for half an hour usually02:39
ruanhow do i pause i download in wget?02:39
ruana02:39
RedBallzUbuntu is so hard...02:40
RedBallzdamn02:40
PolahRedBallz, you'll get the hang of it02:40
WXZok, so does anyone know how to undelete that file?02:40
DARKGuyHey, could anybody help me in setting up a PAN (Personal Area Network) using Bluetooth ("Bluetooth PAN daemon version 4.91") with two computers running 10.10 ? I'm getting Connection Refused (111) and using blueman-applet doesn't work because it says that Network Manager couldn't set up the connection :(02:40
WXZI mean folder02:40
* adilbenseddik automatic login with gdm2 on ubuntu 10.10? control panel not working..02:40
union131got all that ubottu?02:41
adilbenseddikme :(02:41
* adilbenseddik :(02:41
WXZI saved a file in the same location as a folder, how do I get that folder back?02:41
Polahruan: I know you can use the -c switch to continue a stopped download. Perhaps just stopping it would work and then you can just continue it later. I don't really know though02:42
viking667sorry, got seriously distracted02:42
DiamondciteWXZ: It should be the difference between filename VS filename\02:42
Polah!ubottu | union13102:42
ubottuunion131: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots02:42
WXZDiamondcite: I don't understand you02:42
Polahunion131, he's just a robot (:02:42
induzsomething similar to Deluge02:43
DiamondciteWXZ: Unless it says something is over written it shoud be there.. how are you accessing it? Filemanager or console?02:43
WXZDiamondcite: I saved the file as /path/to/folder, and then the folder at /path/to/folder was no longer there02:43
union131oh02:43
union131crap02:43
union131he sounded like a jackass02:43
WXZDiamondcite: it wasn't there02:43
DiamondciteDARKGuy: Blueman-applet should share directly ignoreing network manager should it not?02:44
Polahunion131, the "don't ask to ask" question? I tripped that for you (:02:44
WXZDiamondcite: instead, there was a file called "folder" at the location /path/to/02:44
DiamondciteWXZ: Hold on.. let me experiment02:44
DiamondciteErr WHICH app/02:44
WXZDiamondcite: specifically I was downloading a torrent with opera02:44
DiamondciteWXZ: And how are you trying to get to it/02:45
cipher_Hey when ubuntu starts i have to edit the /etc/resolve.conf to get ride of my router and 2 other host names before it will work. I am curious to know if there is anything i can do to fix this02:45
cipher_before internet will work*02:45
WXZDiamondcite: get to what?02:45
DiamondciteWXZ: The said "folder"02:45
WXZDiamondcite: if you mean my folder, I'm trying to get to it through nautilus02:45
DiamondciteErr.. hrm.. it got over written x.x02:46
DiamondciteThe contents did not merge?02:46
union131Someone help me. Heres the question: I am running on ubuntu 10.10 on my toshiba tecra 8000 1990, i bought a wireless adapter for it and it only connects to wifi for about 30 minutes, can anyone explain why and help me fix this problem?02:47
DiamondciteWXZ:  And didn't opera claim it was over writting?02:47
WXZDiamondcite: no, they didn't merge. and no02:47
DARKGuyDiamondcite, I have no idea, it should, but it doesn't detect the NAP service unless I start PAND on one of the PCs, and when I do, blueman-applet detects the NAP service, but it doesn't connect because it says connection refused02:47
WXZDiamondcite: folder named "something", save in the same location as the "something" folder, now file in the same location called "something", folder gone02:47
DARKGuyDiamondcite, I've also tried using the NM plugins and the non-NM plugins on blueman-applet, and it's the same result02:48
LarsNdoes anyone have a link handy for how to install Ubuntu along side Windows 7 on an Intel Matrix Raid (aka FakeRaid) controller?02:48
LarsNI can see the 1.5tb array, but it doesn't detect any existing partitions on the array.02:48
DiamondciteDARKGuy: How odd.. I've managed to share a ubuntu netbook's network with something running arch just fine without network manager..02:49
union131Polah could you help me with that question?02:49
DARKGuyDiamondcite, I personally hate NM :P do you know how to do it without it?02:49
DiamondciteDARKGuy: I'm trying to say Blueman-applet it supposed to just work!02:49
DiamondciteDARKGuy: Assuming it's a paired device and is active02:49
DARKGuyDiamondcite, oh, yeah, it should, but I don't know why I get the connection refused error :/02:50
DARKGuyDiamondcite, they are :S02:50
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DARKGuyDiamondcite, I even try to remove them, start up pand on both comps and they ask to pair up before making the connection02:50
io_errorI have some really stupid noob questions I can't find the answers to because a large number of links on the ubuntu website are giving 404 errors. First is, if I have a "10.04.1" server CD can I install this and just apt-get update; apt-get upgrade?02:50
DiamondciteDARKGuy: I have never heard of pand personally.. it just kinda worked... *researches*02:51
van7huholla,I'll be an ubuntu developer :)02:51
van7hubut it's hard02:51
WXZDiamondcite: any ideas?02:51
DiamondciteWXZ: I'm stumped.. NON of my apps (firefox/vuze) ever pulled a stunt like that.02:52
LarsNio_error: without making changes to apt.  it'll upgrade you to the latest 10.04.x02:52
WXZDiamondcite: try opera02:52
io_errorLarsN: Thanks. I was wondering why I didn't see a '10.04.2' server CD download.02:52
DARKGuyDiamondcite, lucky you :P02:52
van7huanyone know a specification for ubuntu like LSB,POSIX or single Unix specification?02:52
io_error...and the download links are 404!02:52
LarsNio_error: you may need to do:  dist-upgrade rather than just upgrade however.02:53
io_errorLarsN: Wouldn't that put me on 10.10?02:53
LarsNio_error: only if you change apt to point at the 10.10 sources02:53
io_errorThanks... I have been using centos/RHEL for years now and much of this is new. but with centos near collapse I'm pretty sure I'm going to be winding up switching a lot of servers to ubuntu over the next year or so.02:54
LarsNio_error: I work in a primarily FreeBSD shop.  Our "handfull" read 5 or so...  CentOS installs are likely to become NetBSD02:55
induzis chrom and mozilla almost the same??02:55
van7huinduz: no!02:55
union131YO I HAVE ASKED A QUESTION 3 TIMES! AND HERES ANOTHER ONE, HOW CAN I MAKE A CHANNEL WHERE PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY HELP ME?02:55
union131FUCK THIS02:55
FloodBot3union131: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:55
LarsNinduz: in that they both allow you to browse the web, have tabs, and are extendable via plugins...  yes.02:55
induzafter downloading, lots of addson and others plugs ins I have to select/install chrom02:55
io_errorLarsN: haha, I've been using RH since right after they moved out of their garage.02:56
LarsNinduz: from a code level, unlikely.02:56
DARKGuyDiamondcite, brb!02:56
mickster04induz: fundamentally no02:56
van7huinduz: mozilla was belong to google also02:56
van7huinduz: but now,it's not02:56
induznot for coding POV, but as an end user02:56
LarsNvan7hu: no,  Google used to donate funds to Mozilla.02:56
nickorso i ran that terminal command to look for drive errors02:56
nickornot sure what happened02:56
LarsNvan7hu: not the same as being owned by. :)02:56
DiamondciteWXZ: After your experience maybe not =P02:57
nickorbut looks like my computer is trying to count to a billion in terminal02:57
induzsome searches i get better result on chrom then on mozilla02:57
LarsN<--- donates funds to FreeBSD.  BUt I don't own it. :)02:57
van7huinduz: why don't wiki?02:57
milamberio_error: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromLinux/RedHatEnterpriseLinuxAndFedora   this may be of interest to you02:57
io_errormilamber: Ah yes, that would be helpful.02:58
io_errorCome to think of it, a working download link would be even more helpful :P02:58
LarsNio_error: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org02:59
LarsNio_error: is always a favorite of mine.02:59
milamberio_error: to be honest, bit torrents are available02:59
io_errorThanks. Any ideas when the links on the ubuntu.com website will be fixed?02:59
LewocoHow exactly do I enable winbind4? I installed it but I still can't do netbios lookups...03:00
induzhas anyone used FReeFileSynch??03:00
milamberio_error: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/  this is working for me03:00
nickordoes the drive err checker built into terminal usually try to count to a billion?03:01
moondogthinking of dumping my Apple TV and switching to DLNA... anybody doing DLNA have any tips?03:01
bazhanginduz, that related to ubuntu?03:02
__lucio__anyone knows what happened to /dev/midi? how do i get that on maverick?03:02
induzI dont know but i want to synch files on ubunto to dualboot Xp03:02
bazhangmoondog, whats dlna03:02
moondogbazhang: look it up03:02
bazhangmoondog, how about telling us here, and how it relates to ubuntu03:03
ubuntuis the clam app i see in synaptic for  checking windows partitons under nix?03:03
moondogwell, I'd say if you don't even know what DLNA is, then you probably can't help me03:04
bazhangubuntu, not really, better to use windows stuff for that03:04
mickster04nickor: i assume if you have that many errors then yes.03:04
bazhangmoondog, what does it have to ubuntu, kindly03:04
egarffmoondog ps3 media player is DLNA03:05
moondogbecause DLNA requires a server.. that runs on a computer... which runs an operating system... possibly Ubuntu03:05
nickorill let it run03:05
miketomdoolDoes anyone know when Netflix is going to be linux compatible?03:05
tensorpuddingmiketomdool: not likely ever03:05
miketomdooloh :(03:05
egarffmoondog: http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/03:05
nickoryou cant just run netflix from firefox or chrome in a browser?03:05
nickorwhat about linux would prevent that?03:05
miketomdoolno nickor03:05
moondogI don't have a PS303:05
tensorpuddingi assumed you meant the silverlight streaming03:06
io_errormilamber: The page http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download has a dead link to a ubuntu-10.04.1-server-i386.iso.torrent (probably just a typo).03:06
egarffmoondog: as I already said, it's dlna03:06
miketomdoolwe have to have "Microsoft Silverlight"03:06
moondogok, thank you :)03:06
egarffmoondog: it was created to work with ps3, but it's a dlna server03:06
tensorpuddingit won't run on moonlight because moonlight won't/can't support the Microsoft DRM that netflix has to use03:06
mickster04nickor: i think netflix uses silverlight03:06
milamberio_error: yeah - it's been like that for a while. did the link i sent work?03:06
moondogalright egarff: thanks for the link03:06
io_errormilamber: and that page from switching from redhat is something i've been looking for for a long time+100003:06
egarffmoondog: good luck.03:06
asdiyantohai03:06
nickorsilverlight03:06
io_errormilamber: Yeah, I foudn the torrent from the osuosl mirror03:06
nickorfigures03:07
huddyhi. with regards to vlc how can ensure that a movie file that open vlc with is opened with the existing instance? rather than opening a new one each time which I find quite pointless.03:07
milamberio_error: excellent03:07
dajhornnickor: Only a very few grandfathered accounts can get the non-Silverlight stream.03:07
huddywould it be possible?03:07
egarffmoondog: btw, a little less attitude goes a long way... "look it up" is crap.03:07
io_errorNow if only KTorrent would stop making my router have a fit...but that's not an ubuntu thing :)03:07
milamber!info ushare | moondog03:07
ubottumoondog: ushare (source: ushare): lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1a-0ubuntu5 (maverick), package size 50 kB, installed size 232 kB03:07
egarffubottu: ushare is painful to configure.03:07
egarffahh.. is a bot.03:08
moondogegarff: I agree... but I was asking for help with X... if a person pipes up and doesn't even know what X is, then why are they responding?03:08
niles|iPodLol03:08
egarffmoondog: but if you'd said "It's a media server protocol", who knows, they might have at least had some pointers.03:08
moondogbut it was apparent that the responder was only intent on giving me crap thinking my question had nothing to do with Ubuntu03:09
moondoganyway03:09
moondogI appreciate the advice03:09
bazhangmoondog, lose the attitude03:09
nickorcheese with whine?03:10
moondogheh03:10
nickorthanks for free help?03:10
egarffmoondog: anyway, good luck.03:10
DaGeek247thanks for free os?03:10
nickorlol03:10
nickoryeah that too03:10
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moondogactually... bazhang... if you really are interested... I wished to run Ubuntu on my desktop machine. After I had it all installed I realized... no iTunes means no streaming music to my Apple TV.03:11
egarffIn the word of murphy from sealab 2021... AWAY!03:11
moondogso then I read a little about DLNA03:11
nickorheres a trick if you are impatient, open up 5 or 6 ubuntu chat rooms on multiple servers03:11
nickori do03:11
moondogthinking perhaps it could take the place of my iTunes/Apple TV setup.03:11
nickoranswers come faster that way if ppl are busy03:11
LarsNmoondog: there's a server that'll stream ala-itunes.  I can't remember the name though03:11
moondogneed something to run on Ubuntu03:11
LarsNmoondog: one second and I'll look.03:11
DaGeek247moondog, itunes should work under !playonlinux as it officially supports it.03:12
nickorman i hate itunes03:12
moondoglike wine?03:12
moondogyeah, I hate vendor lock-in... other than that I like iTunes ok03:13
DaGeek247ish. playonlinux uses wine but wine doesnnt officially support itunes.03:13
nickori am used to using rockbox and drag and drop03:13
moondogI see, ok03:13
nickorso much easier03:13
LarsNmoondog: the apple-tv functionality.  is it more like an airport express..  or more like an iTunes client (ala another laptop/desktop)03:13
moondogI believe the Apple TV uses what they now call AirPlay... for all practical purposes just like the airport express I think03:14
LarsNmoondog: google:  raoplay +ubuntu03:14
LarsNmoondog: iirc that's right.03:14
moondogawesome, thank you!03:14
LarsNraop play +ubuntu03:14
LarsNI was close03:14
LarsN:)03:14
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LarsN<--- doesn't have any apple networking hardware.  or windows machines running iTunes.  But a bunch of folks at the office do :)03:15
DARKGuyDiamondcite, back! ^^03:15
DaGeek247LarsN '/me' works fine...03:15
* DarkStar1 would like to Sell Apple to LarsN03:16
DiamondciteDARKGuy: Err it is broken foe me too03:16
LarsNDaGeek247: I like <--- though.  it's far more fun03:16
DiamondciteDARKGuy: Something changed, seeking03:16
DARKGuyDiamondcite, lol, that sucks big time03:16
DaGeek247meh03:16
DARKGuyDiamondcite, oki! =)03:16
hachrewhere can I change the sensitivity of the mouse scrollwheel?03:17
LarsNDARKGuy: I have a 13" MacBook Pro 5.5 that work gave me.  It currently runs Ubuntu 10.10 with DWM...  so... Dubuntu?  :)03:17
LarsNDarkStar1: ^^03:17
LarsNDARKGuy: sorry...03:17
DaGeek247!mouse03:18
ubottuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto03:18
DaGeek247awww03:18
DARKGuyLarsN, Lol, yay for your mac. No worries :P03:18
DaGeek247!mousespeed03:18
LarsNDARKGuy: when Kris Moore fixes PC-Sysinstall.  It'll likely run PC-BSD rather than Ubuntu.  (again with DWM)03:18
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beauty?????????????03:24
ArchangelSe7enbeauty, Iknowright!03:25
pr0xyHow can I make keyboard shortcuts to increase and decrease the backlight brightness on my laptop?03:25
alairockI have 10..10 netbook. Would I be okay to upgrade to 11.4 beta? Is the beta going to be more/less stable than 10.10?03:27
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viking667wow.03:27
SpitfireWPHoly...03:27
SpitfireWPalairock, probably less stable. That's why it's beta.03:27
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FloodBot2!netsplit03:28
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:28
alairockI understand beta being less stable than the RC's or finals, but it's newer than 10.10, so I might assume it's more stable than 10.1003:28
SpitfireWPUh, that wasn't a netsplit03:29
SpitfireWPThat was a server error :(03:29
pr0xyHow can I make keyboard shortcuts to increase and decrease the backlight brightness on my laptop?03:29
tensorpuddingalairock: this can be true, except in the case of brand-new software that isn't stable yet03:30
tensorpuddingwhich natty has a good bit of03:30
alairockAnyway to hide join's/quit's in IRC?03:31
LarsNalairock: depends on your client.  in irssi: /help ignore03:31
[thor]alairock: what client?03:31
alairockwebchat on freenode03:31
conniikem03:31
[thor]alairock: probably not.03:31
io_erroralairock: Don't think so. I believe you'll have to run IRC on your computer to do that.03:32
pr0xyclick the bubble that says IRC in the top left03:32
pr0xyand select 'Options'03:32
van7hudoes ubuntu use glibc?03:33
io_errorvan7hu: yes03:33
alairockTHANK YOU, no more annoying Join notifications03:33
pr0xyIKR?03:34
pr0xyHow can I make keyboard shortcuts to increase and decrease the backlight brightness on my laptop?03:34
ubudorki am having trouble with NVIDIA driver in ubuntu  11.04. And there is not mutch03:34
io_errorI like it when people join. More people who might see my unanswered questions :)03:34
ubudorkrespone in #ubuntu+103:34
mickster04ubudork: yeah we can't help you for 11.04 though03:35
connii11.04 is avalaible ??03:35
pr0xyDownload drivers from the nVidia website, ubudork03:35
pr0xybeta, connii03:35
rwwubudork: don't do that, please.03:35
rwwubudork: #ubuntu is not for natty questions, regardless of where you ask for responses.03:36
conniisorry03:36
conniithx03:36
conniii'm waity for it03:36
mariosilvabrHi!03:36
io_errorpr0xy: Do you mean you want the brightness keys on your laptop to work, or you want to make new key combinations?03:36
mariosilvabr"Firefox had a problem and crashed. We'll try to restore your tabs and windows when it restarts"03:36
alexUnder11.04 is still a beta,i dont think we should expect it to be 100% stable like an LTS or even a normal release :/03:36
mickster04mariosilvabr: yes?03:36
ubudorkok thanks03:37
conniiok03:37
mariosilvabrI'm with a problem in my Firefox03:37
pr0xyio_error: yes, I have a laptop with brightness down and up control keys printed on f6 and f7. How do I make them work?03:37
mariosilvabr"Firefox had a problem and crashed. We'll try to restore your tabs and windows when it restarts"03:38
io_errorpr0xy: which model of laptop is it?03:38
ubudorkpr0xy: I tried that earlier in 10.10 but there is always trouble after updates in ubuntu03:38
pr0xyio_error: it's a Google Cr-4803:38
pr0xymariosilvabr: that's no problem. Just restart firefox.03:39
io_errorpr0xy: YOu're probably out of luck, unless Google wants to make it work03:39
alairockHP mini 210-1190NR multitouch help. Tried everything, Googled my eyes out. Anyone?03:40
pr0xyio_error: it's just an f6 or f7 key, but it has an icon printed on it. kinda like the Mac aluminum keyboards.03:41
mickster04alairock: it doesn't work? or what is the problem?03:41
io_errorpr0xy: so you hit Fn-F6 or Fn-F7 and nothing happens?03:41
alairockThe touch pad works, and right/left click seems to work okay, but mutlitouch/vertical scrolling doesn't work.03:42
mickster04alairock: have you treied different programs? are the settings right?03:42
pr0xyio_error: There's no fn key. I need to map a keyboard shortcut for f6 to be brightness down and f7 to be brightness up.03:43
alairockNot sure, even more so, I don't see the supposed touchpad settings that are supposed to be in the preferences.03:43
pr0xyio_error: I guess I want to make new key combinations03:44
io_errorpr0xy: haha, I had to go find pictures of the thing to see what you were talking about.03:45
pr0xyYeah, and the capslock key would be nice to make it do something...03:45
pr0xyIt does nothing at all.03:45
io_errorpr0xy: But Google doesn't WANT there to be a caps lock key :)03:46
pr0xySo? They also don't want it to run straight-up ubuntu, and guess what i'm running! Maverick Meerkat.03:47
moondogLarsN: DWM looks like a pretty neat deal03:47
io_errorpr0xy: Yeah I figured as much. Probably you'll have to dig into their ChromeOS stuff to see what they did. Something like those buttons I'd expect to be in hal/DeviceKit.03:48
pr0xyio_error: the brightness keys act as normal f1 thru f10 keys in ubuntu!!!03:49
pr0xyio_error: I want to map brightness up with a keyboard shortcut.03:49
ceohow to make my /var/www/ can used not need root acces03:49
BustardoI'm an idiot. I did a manual parttion when I installed Ubuntu 10.10 and I somehow managed to mess up the win 7 boot. When I try to go there it says "Geom Error"03:50
ceohow to i can make my /var/www/ that no need root acccess03:50
io_errorpr0xy: On a normal laptop those keypresses don't make it as far as GNOME, they get intercepted by hal and hal sends off the command to change the brightness. You're in for some work.03:51
BustardoSince I'm a linux/ubuntu noob I'm pretty stumped any ideas out there?03:51
BustardoI dont htink I messed up the partition just the bootloader or grub2 or whatever it is03:52
yagooBustardo, wubi installer is very safe to try out03:52
pr0xyio_error: I mapped sound keys and other stuff, already.03:52
yagooBustardo, you mean win7 doesn't boot?03:52
Bustardoyes03:52
io_errorpr0xy: OK03:52
BustardoUbuntu 10.10 im in now03:52
mickster04ceo: what do you mean need root access? you should bve able to view the files ragardless? but to edit them you want the security03:52
Bustardoit works fine03:52
yagooBustardo, what boots and what doesnt?03:52
Bustardot03:53
pr0xyio_error: can I map shortcuts for brightness at all, or not?03:53
vhdBustardo, sounds like your mbr is damaged03:54
ceomickster04, am can't install joomla or smthing cms, so many error, and if am need to edit file one /var/www am need be root first sudo gedit /var/www/index.php < that make me root>03:54
yagoook anyhoo03:54
yagoovhd, not it isnt.. he said he can boot ubuntu03:54
RussellAlanneed help with Start-Up Manager03:55
RussellAlananyone have experience?03:55
ceomickster04, am need do only $ gedit /var/www/index.php onlye not need :"sudo"03:55
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FloodBot3!netsplit03:55
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:55
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vhdyagoo, isnt the mbr seperated from grub though?03:56
fennuccianyone know a good book/guide to begin learning linux?03:56
fennuccicommand line03:56
fennuccietc..03:56
demonsporkI am trying to enable dolby and DTS passthrough on a c-media CMI8768 chipset and have had no luck. I can only get PCM 2.0 output and when I try to force xbmc to use a digital passthrough it fails to open the sound device. I also can't use VLC to do it either.  Any suggestions?03:56
mickster04ceo: well unpack them to your local folder the sudo nautilus to copy them across if thats easier?03:56
io_errorpr0xy: Of course you can. They did it in ChromeOS right?03:56
sangeethGot a great doubt... If I upgrade from my 10.10 to 11 for beta testing, would my 10.10 still remain or will it be removed?..03:56
mickster04sangeeth: if you upgrade it replaces it all03:57
DrakasXsangeeth: it would be removed, i just did it earlier this week04:04
io_errorpr0xy: The point is, none of us can help you since we don't have that laptop, and I don't have ChromeOS anyway. If you want this to work, it's going to be a solo project.04:04
pr0xyio_error: what do I do for the command?04:04
DrakasXIf you switch the desktop to Ubuntu Classic instead of Unity it works quite well for a beta04:04
sangeethmickster04: So, how do I try it, without getting my current version removed04:04
pr0xyMapping a brightness shortcut is a project?04:04
sangeethDrakasX: How is it?..04:04
ceoam have do that ide MichealH but still no good ide for used that04:04
DrakasXWell i haven't run across any hiccups04:04
sangeethDrakasX: How is 11?..04:04
DrakasXexcept with the pae kernel, but once i removed that it was smooth sailin04:04
DrakasXsangeeth: it's very usuable04:04
vhdBustardo, http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?t=47267 have a look at this.04:04
DrakasXsangeeth: if you want to have booth, make a seperate partition for the 11.04 install04:04
sysop3hey I have one big issue left with ubuntu as a desktop os. why doesnt the auto nvidia kernel driver updater work? it worked once, I saw it download the newer kernel driver. but it has not worked once since. is this just me or does everone have this issue?04:04
sangeethDrakasX: Completely forgot about that...:-D04:04
DrakasXsangeeth: 11.04 is very usuable though, I've been using it along side Mac OS X for about a week, pretty nice, the unity interface just needs speed improvements.04:04
tucemiux11.04 came out????04:04
sangeethDrakasX: Oh...04:04
sangeethtucemiux: Na... The beta is out...04:04
DrakasXtucemiux: it's still in beta, I'm testing04:04
tucemiuxahhh ok, i thought it was out already, when is it scheduled to be released?04:05
DrakasXtucemiux: Not sure.04:05
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pr0xyio_error: the applet works fine, but the brightness keys bother me because I can't think of a logical use based on the graphic.04:05
pr0xywhatever... bye.04:05
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Koritsahello, i installed ubuntu :D04:09
dfgasis there an archive manage that is like winzip where i can add and delete files easy from with in the archive like winzip or 7zip?04:09
Danielcg25_iPodKoritsa: Congrats, you are no longer stupid =P04:09
ArchangelSe7enKoritsa, cool , welcome in04:09
Koritsayeah. well, now, should i install java from the sn website or there's a faster way?04:10
PeterFAHow do I clean up all these extra kernels?04:10
Nicolas_Leonidashow do you remove a folder and all its contents with one damn command?04:10
Danielcg25_iPodKoritsa: Ubuntu Software Center04:10
Koritsa:\04:10
PeterFAnick_h, rm -fr04:10
Koritsaok04:10
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mickster04PeterFA: you can remove them in the synaptics package manager, just make sure you leave one behind :p04:11
PeterFANicolas_Leonidas, rm -fr04:11
Danielcg25_iPodApplications > Ubuntu Software Center04:11
RussellAlani'm having trouble running startupmanager ----- ImportError: libart_lgpl_2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:11
Nicolas_LeonidasPeterFA:04:11
RussellAlanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/589123/04:11
Nicolas_Leonidastnx04:11
tucemiuxdfgas, yes there is04:11
Nicolas_Leonidasmerci04:11
Koritsawell, i'm lookin for apache, but i dont find04:11
Koritsa(in the soft center).... why is that?04:11
RussellAlanI installed ubuntu 10.10 from pendrive, and when i try to do update it asks for cd/ how can i change that?04:11
mickster04Koritsa: look for lamp?04:11
dfgastucemiux, what is it?04:11
sianetradiohello04:12
Koritsamickster04, what do you mean? if i look for lamp it find me only "evolvotron"04:12
tucemiuxdfgas, it depends on how you want to compress files, there's tons of options04:12
dfgasi work with zip files for my roms on android04:13
sianetradioI'm trying to make a bootable ubuntu for a netbook using a mac04:13
ArchangelSe7ensianetradio, unetbootin04:13
mickster04Koritsa: ok so search for apache, what does it find?04:13
sianetradiobootable USB drive I should day04:13
sianetradiosay*04:13
tucemiuxdfgas, i suggest you use the forums then, you can do it two ways, using the command line or using a GUI, here's a thread that can get you started: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-577149.html04:14
root_hey everyone04:14
root_whoops04:14
dfgasyah i am looking at gui04:14
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Grey_Kingcan anyone in here help me with the "screen" program?04:15
mickster04Grey_King: the screen problem?04:15
Grey_Kingmickster04: glad to see you still here :)04:15
mickster04lol still here? i idle all the time04:15
mickster04:p04:15
Grey_Kingmickster04: All I need to know is how to switch out of one screen session and into another, then resume the first session04:16
Koritsahow do i install apache? or any other good workin http demon that can come with php?04:16
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mickster04Koritsa: in terminal type in sudo apt-get install apache204:16
rww!lamp | Koritsa04:16
ubottuKoritsa: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:16
FoolsRunHi, do you need an actual sound card in order to do HDMI audio?04:16
wapkoctrl+a then 'd' to detach your current session04:16
mickster04rww: oh i can't believe i forgot about that:(04:16
Jobesrandom question: can anyone here explain why I might use lightspeed over apache?04:16
ArchangelSe7ensianetradio, http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook04:17
tucemiuxJobes, maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic can be of more help04:17
mickster04Jobes: yeah, for opinions try there04:17
Koritsathank you :}04:17
sianetradiothanks archangel04:17
sianetradioI have the .iso on the usb drive04:18
sianetradiobut the netbook isn't recognizing it04:18
Jobestucemiux/ mickster04, thanks guys will do04:18
sianetradioI dont' know how to make it "bootable"04:18
Grey_Kingahh mission success04:18
PeterFADid anyone see my addition of w?04:18
Grey_KingI got it04:18
Grey_Kingthanks everyone!04:18
sianetradioit's a brand new HDD I put in04:19
mickster04Grey_King: well if you create a screen by going screen -S screen1 <do stuff here> then ctrl a and then ctrl d (without letting go of ctrl) then you log out or detach from that screen, then you can type in screen -r screen1 to get back to that specific one (if you have multiple open)04:19
ArchangelSe7ensianetradio, do you have another computer that you can use04:19
ArchangelSe7enother that the netbook I mean04:19
sianetradiounfortunately....and please dont' laugh.......I'm using a mac right now :P04:19
nickorman there is something so satisfying about cleaning up your technology04:20
nickorand putting it to good use04:20
Grey_Kingmickster04 ten four!04:20
sacarlsonsianetradio: you might look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick04:21
sianetradioso, my problem comes to this: using a mac, I'm trying to make a bootable .iso ubuntu so that I can put it on the netbook pc04:21
sianetradioooh....let me read that04:21
nickori did that with my netbook siantrado04:21
ArchangelSe7ensianetradio, fallow sacarlson 's link04:21
ArchangelSe7enwas looking of that04:21
FoolsRunI'm having a hell of a time with HDMI audio in Ubuntu. Do you need an actual sound card in addition to an HDMI audio capable video card in order to do HDMI audio?04:22
sianetradioyes, thank you.....I'm reading it now04:22
ArchangelSe7enokay04:22
ArchangelSe7enhave fun04:22
ArianHTI'm using ubuntu 10.10 on lenovo s10-3t, and the right click button on my touchpad isn't working, any ideas?04:22
sianetradioyes....do u have any tips nickor?04:22
io_errorIt says "Not currently possible" to make a USB stick installation media from a Mac OS X box.04:22
newnickHello guys, I think my previous nickname was banished.. how do I check it? Everytime I try to login using 'rodhash' in IRC I can't.. :/04:22
sianetradioI just read that :(04:22
alairockArianHT: I had that problem TOO! I fixed it, but it's been a while04:22
nickorsiantradio just download the iso04:23
sianetradioI got that04:23
nickorand make a bootable usb for mac04:23
nickorlike i did04:23
sianetradioit's on the USB drive now04:23
nickordid you try that yet?04:23
ArchangelSe7ennewnick, this not the right place to ask that04:23
sianetradioyes04:23
nickori have ubuntu on like 5 machines04:23
nickorwhat errs did you get?04:23
newnickArchangelSe7en: Ok, which channel should I join?04:23
sianetradioLet me restart and I can tell u04:23
nickorok04:23
sianetradioI was jus tlooking at the bios04:24
ArchangelSe7endonnow which channel is dedicated for freenode help on this server04:24
sianetradioPXE-E61: Media test failur, check cable04:24
ArchangelSe7enbut I'd guess #freenode :P04:24
io_errorFoolsRun: Go to System > Preferences > Sound, click the Hardware tab, select your HDMI device, and then look at the Profile displayed at the bottom.04:24
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nickorhmmmm04:24
sianetradioPXE-M0F: Exiting PXE ROM.04:24
sianetradioNo bootable device -- insert bood tisk and press any key04:25
ArchangelSe7enyup thats the place to ask that newnick04:25
sianetradioboot*04:25
nickorits like the mbr is missing04:25
nickoror not being seen04:25
sianetradioweird huh?04:25
io_errorFoolsRun: after that, go to the Output tab and make sure your HDMI device is actually selected there.04:25
nickori think one of these advanced ubuntu gurus should be able to help you04:25
nickoryeah it is04:25
sianetradiothe old drive gave me a Disk Read Error bla bla restart04:26
sianetradiothis is a clean drive....brand new04:26
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sianetradioit doesn't seem to matter if the usb is in or not04:26
sianetradioI get the same error...I made the USB the first boot as well04:27
nickordid you check all your physical connections?04:27
sacarlsonsianetradio: you can't just copy the iso file onto the usb disk you need to use the installer application that puts the iso on the flash drive to make it bootable04:27
sianetradioyes04:27
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nickoris that drive healthy to your knowledge?04:28
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sianetradioas far as I know04:28
nickoryes you have to use the installer to create a proper bootable usb04:28
nickordid you do that?04:28
sianetradiosacarlson where do I get an installer aplication?04:28
nickoron the ubuntu site04:28
sianetradioOH....yes, that's what I need04:28
sianetradiolooking for that now04:29
nickor:)04:29
sacarlsonsianetradio:  the link I gave you points to applications that can be ran from whatever platform you have avalable https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick04:29
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io_errorsacarlson: Except for OS X04:30
sianetradiocool04:30
sianetradiohaha04:30
sianetradioouch04:30
nickori think illsetup my logitech remote to work with my laptop thats doing hdmi to my flatscreen now too04:30
nickorthis will be interesting04:30
nickorbest of luck siane04:30
sianetradiogracias04:31
nickorde nada04:31
Koritsaok something is not makin sence04:31
sianetradioKoritsa what isn't?04:32
bc81hi. i have the power manager set to 'put display to sleep after 1 minute'.  when watching youtube video is there some way to autmatically disable this, because it's annoying to have to keep moving the mouse around04:32
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FloodBot1!netsplit04:32
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit04:32
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nickorbc81 change that setting?04:32
Koritsaok. something not makin sense04:33
Koritsai'm tryin to do su root04:33
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bc81nickor: i need that setting, changing it every time i watch a flash video is not user friendly option04:33
Koritsawait - is the user i entered at installation is the root?04:34
mickster04Koritsa: sudo su to become root user, but why not just do sudo <<command>>04:34
io_errorKoritsa: root is disabled by default, so if you haven't set a root password then 'su' won't work. Use 'sudo passwd' to set a root password and enable the root account.04:34
mltdwn@bc81 Search google for a package called caffeine, it disables the screensaver when watching flash videos04:34
Danielcg25_iPodKoritsa: Don't su root, its impossible04:34
mickster04!sudo04:34
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo04:34
bc81mltdwn: thanks, i will look for this04:34
Danielcg25_iPodKoritsa: Instead, put "sudo" before a command04:34
Danielcg25_iPod!sudo | Koritsa04:34
ubottuKoritsa: please see above04:34
Koritsaok. that you04:34
nickorman this room is awesome04:34
nickorlearning a bunch04:34
Koritsathank*04:34
Koritsacan someone tell me where i can see a list of app that i can download from apt-get?04:35
edbianKoritsa: open synaptic in System -> admin04:35
edbianKoritsa: It lists them ALL04:36
Koritsathank you04:36
Dammienyou can use the apt-cache search command as well04:36
mltdwnKorista: You can install any package in the repos from apt-get04:36
mickster04mltdwn: well read -_-04:37
io_errorSure, but if I already have synaptic open then I'll probably just use that :)04:37
Dammienyep... it's a little more graphic though....04:37
bradyWhat is the recommended way to install OOoLaTeX on ubuntu? I saw a post from 2007, but that is some time ago. It seems strange to me that ubuntu doesn't have it already since it has so much else.04:38
bradyThe post I saw was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33421804:38
io_errorIs Ubuntu not switching to LibreOffice?04:39
mltdwnUbuntu 11.04 should be Libre Office04:40
Danielcg25_iPodio_error: Are you ioerror on twitter?04:40
mltdwnI'm pretty sure it'll be the default04:40
io_errorDanielcg25_iPod: No, that's the other guy04:40
Dammienlatex is in the repos.... i use kile on ubuntu to wirte the documents....04:41
Dammienwrite**04:41
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dsnydersHi all!  Is there a good channel to chat about writing scripts?04:55
dsnydersI want to write a script that, when called, plays the next mp3 file in sequence.04:55
edbiandsnyders: So you call it and it plays the first song.  Then when that song ends it stops?04:55
dsnydersedbian, Yes, Then when I call it again it plays the next file.04:55
edbiandsnyders: What if you call it before the first song has finished playing?04:55
edbiandsnyders: You want it to play both of them at once or... ?04:55
dsnydersedbian, I wouldn't do that.  These are radio dramas.04:55
edbiandsnyders: ok.  I have no idea what a radio drama is.  Seems to me that it would be easiest to just load all the files into brasero or totem.  Is that not an option?04:55
bc81mltdwn, nickor:  thanks, caffeine works perfectly.04:55
dsnydersedbian, A radio drama is exactly what you think it is... a story played on the radio; like the Lone Ranger, or Buck Rogers.  In this case, it is the CBS Radio mystery theatre.04:55
edbiandsnyders: sure.  Why don't you load them up in totem?04:55
dsnydersedbian, totem would play them one after the other without stopping, no?04:55
edbiandsnyders: You want it to stop each time until you do something?04:55
canthus13I've got two different usb bluetooth adapters and neither will work suddenly.  one for sure worked yesterday.  Both adapters work fine on my wife's laptop.  I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/589127/ in syslog04:56
canthus13wow. I've *NEVER* seen it silent in here before.04:56
mickster04oo that was odd04:56
canthus13no kidding.04:56
dsnydersedbian, These are 45 minute to hour long audio clips.  (Also, I have some TV shows that I'd like to use this on.)04:57
canthus13I've got two different usb bluetooth adapters and neither will work suddenly.  one for sure worked yesterday.  Both adapters work fine on my wife's laptop.  I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/589127/ in syslog04:57
edbiandsnyders: I think I can whip something up real quick.04:58
dsnydersedbian, thanks.  That would be most helpful.04:58
fennuccihow come when I log out of root and log into my normal accnt it prompts me Run as root?04:58
fennucciheh04:58
fennucciam I to always run as root?04:59
linuxuz3rhekki04:59
linuxuz3rhello04:59
fennuccihi04:59
canthus13hekki.04:59
dsnydersedbian, btw, I use mplayer from the command line.  For some reason totem rubs me the wrong way.04:59
edbiandsnyders: no worries05:00
linuxuz3rhow do i backup so that i preserve ownership of my home folder and files?05:00
dsnydersedbian, The files are named sequentially, if that helps.05:00
edbiandsnyders: It does.  Example file name?05:01
Nicolas_Leonidashey I can ping google.com and other sites but firefox does not show anything, nor can I use the software center and stuff, I'm running ubuntu 10.10 in virtualbox05:01
danileigh79Nicolas_Leonidas: running vbox in windows?05:02
mickster04Nicolas_Leonidas: you can't go to google.com?05:02
linuxuz3rguys05:02
linuxuz3ranyone05:02
astropirateHas ubuntu modified the behaviour of ptrace system call? everytime i make it i get an "Operation not permitted"05:02
administrator你好阿05:02
Nicolas_Leonidasdanileigh79: yes05:02
Nicolas_Leonidasmickster04: no05:02
danileigh79astropirate: tried sudo?05:02
dsnydersedbian, "csbsrmt_0823_queen_of_palmyra.mp3".  The numbers are sequential, and the part after the number changes.05:02
astropiratedanileigh79, i did05:03
danileigh79Nicolas_Leonidas: Make sure the vbox can recognizee networking05:03
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danileigh79astropirate: nah, haven't tried it myself...05:03
edbiandsnyders: Are they all in the same folder?05:03
mickster04linuxuz3r: i don't understand, just zip up the folders? = backup :p and your folders record who the owners are as part of their properties?05:03
danileigh79astropirate: sorry try someone else05:03
dsnydersedbian, Yes.05:03
fennuccihey05:04
fennuccican someone point me to an online location to learn linux basics?05:04
fennuccicommand line especially05:04
fennucciive been running threw pdfs and stuff05:04
mickster04!cli05:04
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro05:04
fennuccibut all of it seems to assume I have some knowledge of linux already05:04
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mickster04fennucci: see that last link05:04
danileigh79fennucci: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php05:04
fennuccithanks05:05
edbiandsnyders: working...05:05
fennuccihow much difference is there between the distros?05:05
fennucciis ubuntu debian based?05:05
dsnydersedbian, gratefully waiting...05:05
galamarhow do i register my nick? i forgot...05:05
danileigh79fennucci: yes05:05
linuxuz3rhow do i backup so that i preserve ownership of my home folder and files?05:05
edwinkcwif there any method to build my own drop-box like server?05:05
fennucciso if I learn debian I should know ubuntu?05:05
danileigh79fennucci: this is what I first used to look for ubuntu help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-801404.html05:05
fennucciok05:06
edwinkcws/if/is05:06
mickster04edwinkcw: well the hard part would be to work out how to get the syncing to work05:07
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danileigh79afk, smoke break05:07
edbiandsnyders: private message!! :)05:07
edwinkcwmickster04: yes, but I think there are some existing packages to make it easy to achieve05:08
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edwinkcwmickster04: I realize that there is a software call sparklesharebut it is still in development05:09
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fennuccihas anyone dual booted with windows?05:10
successyea05:10
mickster04edwinkcw: yeah, why not just use ropp box?05:10
mickster04fennucci: i have?05:10
successmy laptop is xp i install 10.10 on it with wubi05:10
edwinkcwmickster04: do you mean drop box?05:11
mickster04edwinkcw: yeah05:11
edwinkcwmickster04: it has limited space05:11
edwinkcwmickster04: for free account, it only has 2GB05:12
fennuccido I have to do a clean instal of windows?05:12
fennucciI've backed everything up naturally, but Im wondering if I really have to put a clean instal, or can I just go from here? with enough room obviously.05:12
sysop3you see drop box's office? its sweet05:12
successyou don't have to clean anything05:12
oheligHello.05:12
successfennuci:what are you trying to do?05:12
successohelig:hello05:13
fennuccidual boot windows and ubuntu05:13
fennucci:)05:13
successwhat do you mean dual boot05:13
fennuccihave the ability to boot either of them05:13
successlike have the option between os's on startup?05:13
fennuccion the same computer05:13
fennucciyeah05:13
successyea05:13
successthats what i did05:13
successexcept i never use windows...05:13
mickster04edwinkcw: how many pc's do you sync ocross?05:13
fennucciwell I was reading one guide and it said to put a clean instal05:13
fennucciwell I use windows primairly now05:13
fennuccibut I'm hoping to change that, slowly migrating to linux05:14
oheligI find myself unable to enter my password when installing anything. I click "Authenticate", and nothing happens.05:14
fennucciI need to learn linux first05:14
mickster04fennucci: well dual boot is great, i use windows for games05:14
fennucciyeah i need photoshop to work05:14
arandfennucci: You don't need a clean install of windows no.05:14
mickster04fennucci: and with ubuntu, you don't really :p05:14
fennucciand illustrator05:14
edwinkcwmickster04: about 3-405:14
fennuccihow much do I need to have for a partion?05:14
mickster04fennucci: check out gimp, it has similar abilities,05:14
fennucciI have like 130gb free05:14
fennucciyeah i've seen gimp05:14
fennucciI do web design/dev05:15
mickster04fennucci: depends how much stuff you wanna install, i fyou wanna save your music etc into ubuintu as well (not neccesary, ubuntu can read windows partitions)05:15
arandfennucci: Rule of thumb 20G for the operating system and all applications05:15
fennucciand I'm really familiar with adobes suite05:15
oheligI personally find gimp to be very hard to use05:15
oheligafter using adobe for so long05:15
fennucciit can mickster04 ?05:15
mickster04fennucci: yeah, so maybe 20-40 Gb for ubuntu05:15
htatgimp is pretty much a photoshop clone >_>05:15
fennucciok05:15
arandfennucci: More if you plan on storing films/music etc. on there05:15
fennuccican I add more space later?05:15
mickster04fennucci: and yes it can05:15
mickster04fennucci: yes you may05:15
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fennuccimst my movies and music is on windows already, and backed up05:15
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fennucciok05:15
linuxuz3rhow do i backup so that i preserve ownership of my home folder and files?05:15
mickster04fennucci: assuming that the windows partition is ntfs?05:15
fennuccimaybe I'll try installing tonight then05:16
mickster04fennucci: actually if it's a wubi install that shouldn't matter05:16
fennucciwhy wouldnt it be ntfs?05:16
mickster04linuxuz3r: just copy the folders somewhere else?05:16
mickster04fennucci: iunno05:16
fennucciheh Ive never formated it or anything05:16
fennuccithis laptop is still fairly new05:16
fennuccirelatively*05:16
mickster04fennucci: you should be good then05:17
fennucciactually I just cleaned house, so now I have 249gb left05:17
fennucciok05:17
mickster04:)05:17
fennucciI'll give it a shot right meow05:17
fennuccii was just setting up bt4 on my other laptop05:17
fennuccibut I don't know much about linux at all, I was all excited that I logged in05:17
mickster04fennucci: yeah ubunbtu is easy, don't worry about learning 'linux'05:17
fennucciwhy does it ask me to run as root immediatly after loggin in?05:17
arandfennucci: I would recommend doing a normal dual-boot and not use wubi though, wubi can't be expanded once created, for one.05:17
fennuccino but I want to05:18
mickster04fennucci: describe the exact message?05:18
fennucciwell, I created an account, logged out, logged in as my other accnt, and after 'startx' it prompts me with05:18
fennucciRun as root, KDE su05:18
fennuccishould I just hit ignore?05:18
fennuccii that a standard message?05:18
fennucciis*05:18
oheligI find myself unable to enter my password when installing anything. I click "Authenticate", and nothing happens. What do?05:18
arandfennucci: For backtrack support, #backtrack05:19
danileigh79ohelig: have you tried sudo in terminal?05:19
oheligeverything works in the terminal05:19
fennucciwell I was just messing around in backtrack, I just figured that was a normal thing, was just wondering why it was asking me for that05:19
oheligonly using the gui is when i can't authenticate05:19
fennuccibut05:19
fennucciI'll log out and get on windows so I can chat with ya'll as I attempt a dual boot install ssession05:20
arandfennucci: If you are doing the dual boot, you would boot off the CD no? (unless you are doing wubi of course)05:20
oheligIf I recall correctly, I wasn't having this issue before the most recent kernel update.05:21
Maddogmohelig, I have that on one of my boxes, closing the auth window after nothing happens seems to work05:21
fennucciyeah arand05:21
fennucciI have a Ubuntu LTS 10.04 live cd05:21
fennuccihow do I shut down linux05:21
fennuccilol05:21
oheligsudo shutdown 005:21
fennucciI cant find it anywhere in the bt405:21
fennucciok05:21
oheligor hit the power button05:21
mickster04fennucci: click on the power button top right for ubuntu?05:21
arandfennucci: ctrl+alt+delete works oftentimes05:22
fennuccier my other laptop is in bt405:22
fennucciwas just messing around in it05:22
yagooanyone knows grub2 ? (chainload another bootsector 0 from another drive)05:22
syrinx_!grub2 | yagoo05:22
ubottuyagoo: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:22
oheligwell, I can only hope upgrading to Natty will fix the issue. I don't want to have to do a clean install D:05:23
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, sudo shutdown -h now05:23
arandyagoo: "set root=(hdX); chainloader +1; boot" ?05:23
* ohelig waits patiently for April 28th05:23
mimailhi05:23
Axlinohelig: somebody here the other day was having a similar issue. what's the output of: gconftool --get /apps/gksu/sudo-mode05:23
danileigh79fennucci: if sudo shutdown doesn't work try sudo reboot05:23
fennuccihrmm05:23
fennucciit says user is not in the sudoers file.05:23
oheligtrue05:23
Axlinwell that's a surprise. heh05:23
mimailanybody kown "failed load session"   for 11.0405:24
danileigh79fennucci: good grief05:24
yagooarand, thanks..05:24
fennuccilol sry05:24
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, there's a suedit or sudoedit util that I think you need to use...05:24
mickster04fennucci: halt might work?05:24
fennuccijust 'halt'?05:24
arandohelig: You can try just booting the old kernel I guess, though I assume it isn't related to the kernel...05:24
mimailI just upgraded to the Natty beta and I'm getting this error message every time I try to log in.05:24
mickster04!natty | mimail05:24
ubottumimail: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.05:24
mimailyes05:25
mimailFailed to load session "ubuntu"05:25
danileigh79mimail: join #ubuntu+105:25
oheligIt was a pretty large update that day, so it could have been anything05:25
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, I was gone a while, so I might be unclear. are you just trying to shutdown?05:25
mickster04Seven_Six_Two: yes he is05:25
oheliganyways, i'm off to bed05:25
mickster04fennucci: if you haven't installed it, just hard power down05:25
Seven_Six_Twomickster04, but he's not able to sudo?05:25
danileigh79ohelig: good night05:25
mickster04Seven_Six_Two: evidently05:25
mickster04ohelig: but it's only half 4 :p05:25
danileigh79Seven_Six_Two: says user not in sudoers file05:26
fennucciok05:26
oheligIt's 11:30 pm05:26
arandSeven_Six_Two: It's backtrack, anyways.05:26
ohelig:|05:26
mickster04ohelig:  monday afternoon for me :p05:26
oheligaustralia?05:26
danileigh79mickster04: hlf past midnight here, east coast us05:26
Seven_Six_TwoBT4 doesn't use sudo. He's likely root already05:26
tucemiuxits 12:26am o_O05:26
mickster04ohelig: NZ :D05:26
arand...This is the reason you ask backtrack people about backtrack stuff05:26
oheligclose enough :S05:26
mickster04ohelig: oooh no you di'nt :p05:26
danileigh79fennucci: u using backtrack??05:27
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, do you have a  $  or a #  for your prompt?05:27
mickster04ohelig: well i'm actually a pom but most kiwis hate being compared to Aus :p05:27
jason_562something's wrong here05:27
fennuccii just hard powered down05:27
fennucciI hope I didnt break anything05:27
danileigh79ohelig: u asking for it, nzer's hate being associated with australia05:27
fennucciit wasnt installed05:27
mickster04fennucci: just hard shutdown if you haven't installed backrtack, it's not gonna have written anything to the HDd anyway05:27
oheliglol, sorry05:27
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, just live, or live with usb?05:27
jason_562if the sudo says that the user is not available then it's another big deal05:28
fennuccilive usb?05:28
mickster04brb05:28
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fennucciok tho, I'm going to try dual booting05:28
Seven_Six_Twomickster04, some of the options at boot allow for storage05:28
dsnydersfennucci, live usually means cd-rom.  This means you won't be able to save.  Most live-cd distros now allow you to save stuff on USB.05:29
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, it's the lower options when you boot BT4. the "persistent" live options do use storage. so whether something went wrong depends on whether you used those and were in the middle of doing something when you powered off.05:29
fennuccioo ok05:29
jan247hi guys, how do i find out my ram speed and type (ddr2/3) from the command line? lshw and dmidecode both report it as unknown..05:30
fennucciso yeah was just booting from USB, no cd involved, it allowed me to create an accnt tho, does tha tmean its writing to my hd?05:30
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, no, it would write to usb.05:30
Diamondcitejan247: If you have an OEM system you can look it from from manufacturers?05:30
fennuccioo ok05:30
Seven_Six_Twofennucci, but those files could have been open, and could become corrupt.05:31
jan247Diamondcite: nothing from the command line might help me here?05:31
Diamondcitejan247: Well dmidecode is already going quite far... I guess you can try memtest86+05:31
fennucciwell worse comes to worse, I can just reformat and remake my usb right?05:31
jan247i see. thanks anyway Diamondcite05:32
Diamondcitejan247: That is a boot time memory checker, should help a little.05:32
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jan247yep, i was hoping to avoid the restart :)05:32
FennucciTWOok05:32
jan247was just lazy. haha05:32
FennucciTWOim wondering which laptop to tryt this on05:32
FennucciTWOhp or toshiba05:32
Diamondcitejan247: Err hrm.. As I said.. do you have an OEM system?05:32
mickster04fennucci: try both, you don't have to install to try it :p05:33
mickster04FennucciTWO: are you both of these guys?05:33
FennucciTWOyeah05:33
jason_562hahhaha05:33
FennucciTWOwell I've tried it , I like it05:33
Diamondcitejan247: If you have a brandname system, sites like crucial.com which sells ram, has a way for you to look it up.05:33
FennucciTWOI have an hp g60 and a toshiba a50505:33
mickster04FennucciTWO: you shouldprolly remove one...05:34
FennucciTWOI'm assuming one of these will go offline as I try to instal it , I need constant support05:34
FennucciTWO:P05:34
FennucciTWOok05:34
jan247Diamondcite: yep. oem. but hey, i'll just do a reboot. it's just a desktop anyway05:34
dhodgkinI used tasksel to switch from xubuntu back to ubuntu desktop.. tasksel removed everything aside from base server.. I did a fresh install of Maverick but now I have absolutely no window manager. I have search this online and the answer is always run 'metacity --replace &' which works until the term is closed. anyone know how I can fix this?05:34
FennucciTWOdo I need more ram and such? for a dual boot?05:34
mickster04FennucciTWO: you use ram for one OS at a time05:34
mickster04:p05:35
FennucciTWOshould I use the computer with lots of ram and HD space? is there much chance of things going bad? Corruption and what have you? all my stuff is backed up but I'm just wondering05:35
FennucciTWOright, so I guess ubuntu doesnt require tons of resources like windows05:35
mickster04FennucciTWO: edfinitely not05:35
mickster04!requirements05:35
ubottuHardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu05:35
FennucciTWOmaybe I'll use my slower laptop to indulge05:35
danileigh79Diamondcite: can't free scan on crucial through linux, it dl's an exe now05:35
FennucciTWODo I need to shrink my windows partition?05:36
FennucciTWOidk if I'm reading the right guide, this one seems to be making me do all sorts of silly things05:36
danileigh79FennucciTWO: I actually created a secondary partition cuz linux can still access my win files05:36
milamber!dualboot05:37
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot05:37
ljsoftnetFennuciiTWO what do you want to do?05:37
arandFennucciTWO: Just start the installer it will do everything automatically for you05:37
FennucciTWOreally? including the partitioning?05:37
mickster04FennucciTWO: usually05:37
arandFennucciTWO: Yes05:38
FennucciTWOi like this05:38
FennucciTWOok05:38
danileigh79FennucciTWO: yes, I keep all my reg win files on sda1, ubuntu on sda5, and I can still access my win files (music, vids, etc)05:38
fennucciok here goes05:38
fennucciI like ubuntus interface05:39
fennucciits all smooth and sexy like05:39
danileigh79fennucci: me too lol05:39
fennucciits come along way05:39
danileigh79fennucci: i'm smooth and sexy too lmao05:39
fennucciI think most peoples preconceptions of linux is like a black sceren with a white blinky score, like retro msdos style05:39
fennuccilol danileigh7905:40
fennucciim hairy and sexy05:40
mickster04!OHMY05:40
ubottuPlease remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.05:40
fennuccianyway05:40
Fudgeanyone know in gnome preferably a gtk app how to using one soundcard send voice outptut to headphones and music to rear jack for ext speakers?05:40
danileigh79mickster04: oh come on it wasn't that bad lol05:40
mickster04danileigh79: i dunno how bad things could have gotten tho...and no one wants to imagine that :p05:41
izinucsFudge: pavucontrol should let you do that05:41
danileigh79Fudge: No, but now that you mention it, that would be nice lol05:41
danileigh79mickster04: I'm a good girl *grins*05:41
danileigh79izinucs: can that work on lappys too?05:42
izinucsdanileigh79: probably.. you have to have the streams going first before adjusting.05:42
TechnicusHello, I am unsure which Nvidia driver is necessary for a HP Pavilion S7600N.  How do I figure this out?05:43
mickster04"the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the kids are fbi agents"05:43
mickster04Technicus: if you go to hardware drivers it recommends one for you05:43
danileigh79izinucs: what i mean is since lappy on has one jack, can i plug in mic/headset into jacks and still have sound come out of speakers or will the speakers be overridden by jacks05:44
Technicusmickster04: It does not recommend one.05:44
mickster04Technicus: at all? does it even list one?05:44
danileigh79Technicus: do ou see drivers at all for nvidia on hardware drivers screen?05:44
Technicusmickster04: I lists none.05:44
izinucsdanileigh79: actual plugs? I'm not sure.. worth trying. works with my usb headset05:45
mickster04Technicus: have you restarted since you installed?05:45
Fudgeill try it izinucs05:45
danileigh79izinucs: yeah I have an old boom set05:45
Technicusmickster04: Yes, fresh install.05:45
fennucciok mickster0405:45
fennucciim on step 405:45
danileigh79mickster04: don't you have to unlcok keyring to see hardware drivers?05:46
fennucciits asking me, Install Side by Side choosing between each startup, Erase disk and use entire disk,  Specify partitions manually(advanced)05:46
fennucciobviously I dont want option 205:46
danileigh79fwnn side by side in my opinion05:46
danileigh79fennucci: side by side in my opinion05:46
fennucciright but how much space will it partition?05:46
mickster04Technicus: well restart then do update/upgrade with synaptics package manager, then see again if thereis nothing listed05:47
TechnicusWhat is a command to querry the video hardware.05:47
danileigh79fennucci: u set it05:47
fennuccithats the third option05:47
izinucsTechnicus: lspci05:47
danileigh79fennucci: no do side by side, then it'll ask u how much to set05:47
itsnotabigtruckhey05:48
itsnotabigtruckanyone know the best way to work around this bug > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/43590605:48
ubottuUbuntu bug 435906 in linux (Ubuntu) "need to turn off extra "Switchable graphics" GPU" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:48
danileigh79fennucci: for an 80gb hd I set win 70 lix 10gb05:48
fennucciare you sure?05:48
fennuccicause the third option has a slider bar05:48
FrozenFireI have a LUKS-encrypted drive with a single ext4 partition inside, which I have the password for in my keyring. Each time I log in, I have to select it from the Places menu to mount it. Is there a simple way to configure my system to auto-mount that drive?05:48
fennucciand it shows05:48
danileigh79fennucci: that's only to manage existing partitions, you don't have any05:48
fennuccio05:48
fennuccibut it shows a ubuntu partition05:48
fennuccihrmpf05:48
fennucciok05:48
itsnotabigtrucki.e. the best way to invoke (echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch) sometime during startup, in order to avoid battery drain from turning on both gpus05:49
danileigh79fennucci: do side by side, choosing between them at start up, it will then ask you how much to set for linux05:49
Technicusizinucs: How can I get more specific?05:49
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izinucsTechnicus: sudo lshw05:49
danileigh79fennucci: trust me, I have just done it to 3 computers in the last 2 days05:50
fennuccinow after having done the first option it prompts with a thing saying Before you can select a new partition size, any previous changes need to be written to disck, please note that the resize operation may take a long time05:50
fennucciok05:50
fennucciso continue?05:50
danileigh79fennucci: yes05:50
ruanyes, i've partitioned my ntfs drive recently. was a success05:50
fennucciresizing partition... please wait ...05:50
ruanresized my partition at that05:51
danileigh79ruan: i did the gparted, gave ubuntu 2 extra gigs05:51
ruani gave my ntfs partition 99.999% of the drive instead of 99.99%05:51
danileigh79ruan: scares the crap outta me05:51
fennuccihow long will this take danileigh7905:51
ruandepends on the size05:51
danileigh79ruan: I had linux part at 8gb, gave it an extra 2gb05:51
ruandanileigh79: i had ntfs partition, gave it 10mb of unallocated space that windows didnt give05:52
Technicusizinucs: How can I get more specific with regards to finding out what the video card is?05:52
danileigh79fennucci: if you type danileigh79: I'll see it more clearly or just tyype danil then hit tab05:52
ruanin irssi, just hit the letter d05:52
ruanthen tab05:52
danileigh79ruan: i'm running low on space on sda1, didn't wanna take too much05:53
itsnotabigtruckanyone got any ideas? ^^^ basically i'm just asking about the best way to run a command (writing to a sysfs file) during boot time05:53
izinucsTechnicus: either command will/should give you exactly what it is.. nvidia <model #>, ATI, Intel etc.. what else are you looking for?05:53
danileigh79ruan: I don't think he's using irssi05:53
itsnotabigtrucki can think of a few ways to do it but not sure what the proper solution is05:53
ruandanileigh79: unlikely but im just saying05:53
Rehananyone good with statistical math analysis around here?05:53
ruani used irssi in my first week of ubuntu05:53
danileigh79ruan: lmao05:53
Technicusizinucs: Trying to find out what the Nvidia card is so that I can figure out what driver to use.05:54
danileigh79Rehan: huh??05:54
izinucsTechnicus: it will be in one of those lists.05:54
mickster04!who05:54
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)05:54
Rehandanileigh79: just wondering...need some help with a problem and figured i'd ask05:54
izinucsTechnicus: you should also have a driver waiting to activate in System>Admin>Hardware Drivers ..05:54
Technicusizinucs: Cool, I'll figure this out . . . thanks :)05:54
danileigh79Rehan: homework?? wrong channel, this is for ubuntu questions05:55
itsnotabigtruckTechnicus: there ought to be the name of the card in the output from lspci05:55
itsnotabigtruck(not sure if they had you do that already)05:55
Technicusizinucs: Sadly it does not show drivers in the list.05:55
itsnotabigtruckif it's non-ancient then the nvidia driver should do the trick05:55
Rehandanileigh79: not homework, but oh well05:55
TechnicusI will look throught the lspci more closely.05:55
itsnotabigtruckjust look for anything with nvidia in the name05:55
izinucsTechnicus: then you need to do your updates.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:55
danileigh79Rehan: sorry, my math skills are limited after geometry and a lil bit of calc05:56
itsnotabigtruckit ought to say something like "nvidia geforce 4 series"05:56
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: Technicus is in hardware drivers and nothing is showing up at all05:56
Technicusdanileigh79: Yes that I what I have been saying.05:56
danileigh79Technicus: i know, that's why i was letting him know05:57
itsnotabigtruckdanileigh79: well, it's possible that the driver manager app doesn't know what's up, it's not too difficult to install it manually05:57
Technicusizinucs: I am not familiar with dist-upgrade.05:57
colin_Hey I installed Ubuntu 10.1 and when I restarted all it shows me is a command prompt grub rescue> when i boot05:57
itsnotabigtruckthe question is whether it's appropriate05:57
izinucs!dist-upgrade | Technicus05:57
ubottuTechnicus: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper way to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu.05:57
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: that's what a few of us were trying to get him to do, but he doen't know which model of vid card05:58
itsnotabigtruckTechnicus: can't you just lspci in the terminal, then select everything and copypaste into this: http://pastie.org/ ?05:58
itsnotabigtruckalternatively do lspci > file.txt, then open file.txt in your home directory05:59
fennuccidanileigh79, how long will resizing take?05:59
ruanjust curious, but why does it show "translations for language English" in the update manager?05:59
danileigh79fennucci: could take a while depending on how much you set05:59
fennucciit didnt ask for me to set anything yet05:59
fennucciheh05:59
danileigh79fennucci: I set 10gb and it took near an hour05:59
fennucciok its asking for username05:59
fennucciit never asked me to set anything05:59
danileigh79fennucci: creat it05:59
itsnotabigtruckruan: probably because a lot of apps just consider english to be another language05:59
ruanright, but this is firefox05:59
danileigh79ruan: cuz firefox sucks lmao06:00
itsnotabigtruckisn't there a localization package for english for firefox?06:00
itsnotabigtruckthat would be it06:00
itsnotabigtruckTechnicus: any luck?06:00
ruanlol firefox doesn't suck06:00
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danileigh79ruan: prefer chrome, soryr06:00
izinucsruan: translations are basically labels, help files etc.. and sometimes they are updated.06:00
PullTwol06:00
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colin_:s anyone have any advice for me06:00
ruanyeah it just sounds wierd06:00
itsnotabigtrucki just set up a dual-boot with 11.04 earlier today and i'm kinda disappointed with firefox 4's appearance on linux06:00
fennucciok danileigh79 if I import music and stuff, will it actually copy it over? having dupes?06:01
itsnotabigtruckin fact fx 4 only seems to look proper on windows06:01
ruanitsnotabigtruck: i changed the gui before i could use it06:01
ruancan't use it with the default gui06:01
danileigh79don't import anything, you can access it from Places>(size)FileSystem06:01
fennuccio06:01
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fennucciok06:01
danileigh79fennucci: don't import anything, you can access it from Places>(size)FileSystem06:01
fennucciwhat about firefox?06:01
fennucciwill it import my bookmarks and what not06:01
ruanyes06:01
itsnotabigtruckfennucci: just put your music in the music directory06:01
fennucciok then dont worry bout it?06:01
itsnotabigtruckduplicate songs might be an issue06:01
itsnotabigtruckit probably can't magically tell what's a "duplicate"06:02
danileigh79fennucci: if u want it too, but only if u were using firefox before06:02
fennuccibut im just wondering if it copies it over, or if it shares the files06:02
fennucciyeah I was06:02
tucemiuxif you want firefox 4 you can probably install it manually?06:02
LewocoI installed a commerical program using their setup program and it created an entry in my start menu. I've since removed the program but the start menu entry is still there. How do I remove it?06:02
itsnotabigtrucki'm not sure what import feature you're talking about06:02
fennuccido I want to instal a bootloader?06:02
itsnotabigtruckLewoco: i think there's a menu editor under settings06:02
itsnotabigtruckgo and find the entry and nuke it06:02
fennucciwhat baout http proxy?06:02
itsnotabigtruckfennucci: well, you already have a bootloader06:03
fennucciright06:03
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: i was gonna tell him just to create a shortcut so he doesn't have dup copies of music06:03
fennuccianyone have a solid proxy server to use?06:03
Lewocoitsnotabigtruck, I tried the menu editor but strangely this particular entry doesn't appear in it.06:03
SikSo, I've downloaded the Minimal CD ISO, and I want to put it on a LiveUSB using usb-creator-gtk... but then I click "other", select the ISO, and then nothing happens. And if I use --img, it still insists that the USB isn't big enough (even though the Minimal CD ISO is less than 13MB). Help?06:03
itsnotabigtruckalso ruan: what gui is that?06:03
danileigh79fennucci: why proxy?06:03
fennucciidk just wondering06:03
fennuccibut it still hasnt asked me how much I want to partition danileigh7906:03
itsnotabigtruckfennucci: ehh, proxy servers aren't worth bothering with06:03
meltingpotfennucci, i use nginx. very easy to configure. very fast06:03
itsnotabigtruckalso most of them pass your ip on to the server06:03
fennucciI'm on the final step, before I instal06:03
itsnotabigtruckbe advisedof that06:03
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danileigh79Sik: using wubi? or pendrivelinux?06:04
itsnotabigtruckso they don't actually work terribly well to hide your address06:04
fennucciright06:04
fennucciI use Tor if I want to do something anon style06:04
itsnotabigtruckwell, if you don't care about anonymity there really isn't much of a reason to use a proxy then, is there :p06:04
meltingpotfennucci, nm, i was thinking somethign else.06:04
Sikdanileigh79: using the usb-creator-gtk that comes in the LiveCD :/ The CD drive isn't stable enough for the Ubuntu installer so I'm trying to install from USB instead06:04
itsnotabigtruckunless it's your only option, but then it's not under your control06:04
danileigh79pendrivelinux can create one06:05
meltingpotmy head is still in web development land.06:05
danileigh79Sik: pendrivelinux can create one06:05
fennucciit says int he summary, danileigh79 that The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition $5 of SCSI1(0,0,0) as ext4 partition $6 of SCSI1(0,0,0) as swap06:05
Technicusitsnotabigtruck: http://pastie.org/175311706:05
fennuccii hit instal06:06
fennucciYAY06:06
itsnotabigtruckGeForce 6150 LE06:06
itsnotabigtruckthere you go Technicus06:06
Sikdanileigh79: does it work on an Ubuntu LiveCD if I download it? :P06:06
itsnotabigtruckit's integrated nvidia graphics, not a separate chip/card06:06
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FrozenFireAttempt #2: I have a LUKS-encrypted drive with a single ext4 partition inside, which I have the password for in my keyring. Each time I log in, I have to select it from the Places menu to mount it. Is there a simple way to configure my system to auto-mount that drive?06:06
danileigh79Sik: pendrivelinux creates a live usb, works he same as CD06:06
itsnotabigtruckthat should be compatible with the latest nvidia driver06:06
danileigh79Technicus: GeForce 6150 LE06:06
Sikdanileigh79: I mean the program itself, not the LiveUSB :/ This LiveCD is the only bootable thing I have right now06:07
izinucs!fstab | FrozenFire06:07
ubottuFrozenFire: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:07
itsnotabigtruckdo sudo apt-get install nvidia-current06:07
FrozenFireizinucs: That's for on-boot mounts.06:07
itsnotabigtruckto load up the driver06:07
FrozenFireI'm looking for on-login mounts, because my keyring isn't available until then.06:07
ajuHai all, I need to create sitemap for my site. I am using ubuntu 10.04.Which will be tool for creating sitemap in my ubuntu machine06:07
danileigh79Sik: and it won't install from live cd?06:07
FrozenFireWhat does Nautilus invoke to mount a drive?06:08
itsnotabigtruckanyone know the best way to run a command during boot, to write a value to a sysfs file06:08
Technicusdanileigh79: That is awesome, how do you decipuer that out of all that?06:08
itsnotabigtruck(just repeating since i don't think anyone saw it)06:08
izinucsFrozenFire: the mount command06:08
Sikdanileigh79: like I said, I tried using usb-creator-gtk, but for some reason it refuses to use the ISO >_< (and is it me or the pendrivelinux boot creator runs only on Windows?)06:08
itsnotabigtruckTechnicus: just look through the output for "geforce"06:08
izinucs!mount06:08
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount06:08
itsnotabigtrucknvidia's line of graphics hardware is called geforce06:08
FrozenFireizinucs: Apparently it's a bit more than that, since it's somehow pulling the password from the keyring.06:08
danileigh79FrozenFire: try this http://johnny.chadda.se/article/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/06:08
ajuanyone can help me06:09
SikJust ask?06:09
fennuccianyone?06:09
itsnotabigtruckalso nautilus auto-mounting is probably dark magic06:09
danileigh79Technicus: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)06:09
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fennuccidark magic indeed06:09
fennuccisounds dirty06:09
Technicusitsnotabigtruck: HA!  Line 11, sharp eye!06:09
danileigh79Sik: I'm sorry, was doing a milliion and one things, lemme read what you said again06:10
ruani've got a 6150se and it's got drivers06:10
itsnotabigtruckSik: well, most people trying to make a linux boot stick are starting with windows06:10
itsnotabigtrucki think it might be possible to dd the iso image directly onto a usb drive06:11
Sikitsnotabigtruck: I need something I can run from an Ubuntu LiveCD to make the bootable USB :/06:11
ruandd?06:11
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: Sik says cannot install from live cd, and can only boot pc from live cd06:11
Sikdanileigh79: yeah, the installer eventually fails at some point06:11
ruanSik: what about an alternative cd06:12
ruan!alternative06:12
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal06:12
itsnotabigtruckruan: why not dd?06:12
danileigh79Sik: mine on my server machine did too, just kept trying :(06:12
userdelI have a usb drive - fat32 - where folder access is RW and File Access is nill. when i mount it locally i can create/delete files in it but when i remount it the space used is shown but again no file access!!! how do i change file access ?06:12
Sikruan: I'm trying to make a LiveUSB out of the minimal CD06:12
ruanright, l06:12
ruan    ^k*06:12
danileigh79FrozenFire: did yo utry that site I sent you too?06:12
Sikdanileigh79: tried like 10 times by now, and got partition table corruption several times already because it never finishes the install properly :| The fact it won't even give me the option to retry doesn't help either.06:12
FrozenFiredanileigh79: The problem isn't the keyring, it's getting the particular disk to mount on login.06:13
FrozenFireI don't want to enable auto-mounting entirely, I just want that one disk.06:13
FrozenFireIf I can determine what Nautilus does to mount it, I can script that and include it in my startup applications.06:13
danileigh79FrozenFire: good luck, i've been looking for weeks06:13
itsnotabigtruckuserdel: how are you mounting it06:13
danileigh79afk smoke break06:14
Sik...bus error! :| Now I'll have to reboot if I want to start a new process. Great (this is what I meant with the LiveCD not working properly, eventually Ubuntu will refuse to read from the CD)06:15
userdelitsnotabigtruck: sudo mount -t vfat -o defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000 /dev/sdb1 /media/fat_partition06:15
itsnotabigtruckit's probably that umask right there06:16
itsnotabigtruckwait, nm06:17
danileigh79FrozenFire: try this link, then I'll be bck in 5-10 minutes06:17
danileigh79FrozenFire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions06:17
FrozenFiredanileigh79: Actually, I'm just about to figure out how to do it.06:18
FrozenFireI'm inspecting Nautilus' dbus calls, which'll give me information on what to call to get it to mount the device.06:18
danileigh79FrozenFire: lmo ok, good luck, brb if u need anything you can pm me06:18
itsnotabigtruckSik: can't you go to another comp and produce the usb from there06:18
itsnotabigtruckclearly the comp you're on has issues, maybe a fubar cd drive06:19
Sikitsnotabigtruck: and half a motherboard dead, but I don't have money :P06:19
SikI still don't get why usb-creator-gtk would refuse to read the ISO though... Any ideas on why it might be doing that?06:19
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itsnotabigtrucki dunno...try dd'ing it like i suggested06:20
itsnotabigtrucki'm not sure if it'll work but i've heard of it working06:20
itsnotabigtruckafaik the bios will see that it's a disc image and emulate a cd drivre06:20
ceohow to remove all webserver packeg on my ubuntu 10.1006:20
itsnotabigtruckhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Putting_installation_media_on_a_USB_key#Arch_USB_images06:21
fennuccilol danileigh79 I rebooted after installation and now I get a black screen full of : [ 2497, 948221] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 505944"06:22
fennucciand subsequant errors06:22
fennucciwtf06:22
itsnotabigtruckceo: well, figure out which web server you have installed, then use apt-get/synaptic/software center/whatever to remove it06:22
fennuccimy live cd was in during reboot idk if that messed anything up danileigh7906:22
itsnotabigtruckfennucci: ...that's not good. what did you change?06:22
itsnotabigtruckand that isn't a problem06:22
sl33k_where would i find ~/.hgrc file to edit it?06:22
fennucciI didnt change anything, I installed ubuntu06:22
fennucciheh06:22
itsnotabigtrucki think danileigh79 is on a smoke break06:22
itsnotabigtrucksl33k_: that's where you'd find it :p06:23
itsnotabigtrucktry doing06:23
fennuccishould I reboot?06:23
itsnotabigtruckgedit ~/.hgrc06:23
itsnotabigtruckfrom the terminal06:23
FloodBot1itsnotabigtruck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:23
fennucciyou talking to me?06:23
fennuccigedit ~/. hgrc?06:23
itsnotabigtruckthat was to sl33k_06:23
ceoitsnotabigtruck, am have install wine, and am not found the menu? on bar menu Application > wine but application > ???06:23
fennucciwhat do I do06:23
fennucciheh06:23
fennuccishould I reboot?06:23
ceoand have have install wine06:23
itsnotabigtruckceo: i'm having a hard time understanding you06:24
fennucciwhat should I do itsnotabigtruck06:24
fennuccilol06:24
itsnotabigtruckfennucci: well, seeing that not rebooting isn't going to do you much good06:24
itsnotabigtruckmight as well06:24
fennuccihow do I do it ?06:24
fennuccishould I hard reboot or do command something06:24
itsnotabigtruckhit the reset button? :p06:24
fennuccipower button?06:24
itsnotabigtruckif you don't have a reset button, yeah, hit the power button06:25
itsnotabigtruckif that doesn't do anything, hold it for a few seconds06:25
itsnotabigtruckthen power it back up06:25
ceoitsnotabigtruck, am have install wine, and am need install windows application for work, how do i install it?06:25
fennuccishouldnt I try a command line first?06:25
jasonmchristoshow doo i install ffprobe06:25
fennuccior no?06:25
itsnotabigtruckceo: go to the terminal and do, sudo apt-get install wine06:25
jasonmchristosHow do I install ffprobe?06:25
itsnotabigtruckor go to the software center and search for wine, i think that'll work too06:26
ceoitsnotabigtruck, am have do it06:26
ceoitsnotabigtruck, what the next step, am have instal the wine sudo apt-get install wine06:26
FrozenFireAnyone familiar enough with dbus to tell me how to convert the following into a dbus-send invocation? http://pastebin.com/6ZzCc3VA06:26
jasonmchristosHow do I install ffprobe? apt-get install ffprobe says its mentioned but not found06:26
danileigh79fennucci: what's up?06:26
itsnotabigtruckjasonmchristos: fire up synaptic and search for it06:27
ayeceejasonmchristos: what is ffprobe?06:27
fennucciI rebooted after installation and now I have a black screen full of "[ 2497, 948221] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 505944"06:27
fennucciand subsequant errors06:27
fennuccidifferent sector numbers06:27
fennuccietc..06:27
ayeceefennucci: that's bad news.06:27
fennuccilol06:27
ceoitsnotabigtruck, am have install wine and if am 2x klik on application have error like this : The file '/media/9E80F9D280F9B0BF/Windows Applikasi/Winamp 5.33/winamp533_full_emusic-7plus.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.06:27
fennuccigood thing I did it with that laptop06:27
fennucciwhat happened ayecee ?06:27
itsnotabigtruckceo: don't use winamp on linux06:27
hublurple?06:27
itsnotabigtruckthere's plenty of good linux mp3 players06:28
danileigh79fennucci: remove cd, reboot, and either set boot device or chose boot partition (ubuntu or windows)06:28
ceoitsnotabigtruck, its sample06:28
fennucciomg06:28
fennucciit worked06:28
fennuccihaha06:28
ceoitsnotabigtruck, all application windows am can't run well on my ubuntu06:28
fennuccistupid live cd almost gave me a shitmypants attack06:28
IdleOne!language | fennucci06:28
ubottufennucci: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:28
gslackwine has always been a headache for me... I avoid it06:28
itsnotabigtruckceo: if you really have to use windows stuff, maybe you should use windows >_>06:28
bastidrazorjasonjang: ffprobe is found in the ffmpeg package06:29
pastorbelga#ebooks06:29
danileigh79fennucci: ya you gotta watch ur language here... I usually use the expressions from FarScape like frell, hezmana, mivonks, stuff like that06:29
bastidrazorjasonmchristos: ^^06:29
fennucciheh alright06:29
fennucciits working tho06:29
fennucci:D06:29
ceoitsnotabigtruck, no, am need instal windows office 2007 and am have install wine but have some error if am run exe : The file '/media/9E80F9D280F9B0BF/Windows Applikasi/ms office/Microsoft_office_2007/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.06:29
fennucciim ubuntu'ing06:29
danileigh79gslack: i agree about wine, I gave up on it06:29
jasonmchristosbastidrazor, ty06:30
danileigh79fennucci: good for u!! I'm proud of u06:30
gslackthe words from battlestar galactica work well too lol06:30
itsnotabigtruckugh, i hate these kinda channels06:30
itsnotabigtruckanyway, ceo: ok, running office on linux is a lost cause06:30
itsnotabigtruckuse libreoffice, or switch to windows06:30
itsnotabigtrucklibreoffice isn't as good as office but it's native to linux and it's good enough most of the time06:30
gslackgotta agree with itsnotabigtruck  on that one06:30
danileigh79dang it, I'm out of coffee.... gotta find me some Jolt!06:31
itsnotabigtruckthere's a few other office apps for linux too, like abiword06:31
ceowhat the libreoffice?06:31
gslackwindows proprietary stuff is like trying to push an elepahnt uphill06:31
itsnotabigtruckbut libreoffice is probably the best choice and it comes with ubuntu06:31
itsnotabigtruckceo: look around in the menu for "openoffice write" or "libreoffice write"06:31
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: ya I've had issues with openoffice.... can't get it to properly open up docs from my win part06:31
gslackopen office comes with ubuntu till 10.10. then it goes to libre as of 11.0406:32
fennuccidanileigh79, is there an easy way to setup wireless connections? or do I have to do it manually?06:32
itsnotabigtruckwhatever, different names for the same thing (more or less)06:32
ceohe, itsnotabigtruck that not good for edit some document, so bad i think, am need run ms offcie 200706:32
gslacktrue06:32
ceoitsnotabigtruck, please help me how to run it06:32
mltdwninstall libre office it opens ms office docs like a champ06:32
itsnotabigtruckmltdwn: he's already got it06:32
itsnotabigtruckit comes with ubuntu06:33
itsnotabigtruckceo: like i said, go through the menu06:33
danileigh79fenn go to system>administration>hardware drivers make sure you wifi card has the driver installed06:33
itsnotabigtruckit's under office i think06:33
mltdwnwell it depends on what version06:33
danileigh79fennucci: go to system>administration>hardware drivers make sure you wifi card has the driver installed06:33
HyphenexHowdy, has anybody here any experience mounting a RAID array on the live CD?  I've got nautilus showing up a 'Array', but it can't mount it, dmraid -l will return "no raid disks"06:33
itsnotabigtruckhttp://xkcd.com/627/06:33
itsnotabigtruck:)06:33
ceoam not found the menu of wine06:33
fennucciugh I get an error06:33
mltdwnhaven't been keeping up on the conversation so I don't know what version he's on06:33
ceobut am have isntall wine06:33
itsnotabigtrucknot wine, openoffice06:33
itsnotabigtrucklook for openoffice06:33
fennuccisaying something bout network connection most drivers wont be availble06:33
gslacknot trying to be captain obvious here but alot of this can be answered in Ubuntu online docs06:34
danileigh79fennucci: once that's done, all you have to do is click on the wifi symbol on the right of our panel06:34
itsnotabigtruckHyphenex: hmmm.06:34
danileigh79fennucci: did you go to sys>admin>hardware?06:34
ceoThe file '/media/9E80F9D280F9B0BF/Windows Applikasi/ms office/Microsoft_office_2007/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.06:34
fennuccilol danileigh79 yzyz06:34
fennuccishouldve just told me wifi symbol at first06:34
fennucciits connected!06:34
fennucci:D06:34
itsnotabigtruckceo: stop what you're doing and click the menu in the top left corner06:34
itsnotabigtruckand go to office06:35
danileigh79fennucci: most fresh installs with a win part require you to unlock the driver06:35
itsnotabigtruckthen openoffice writer06:35
gslacklol06:35
danileigh79fennucci: awesome06:35
itsnotabigtruckinstalling office 2007 won't work, wine or no06:35
gslackagreed06:35
ceohai, itsnotabigtruck am have install wine whare the wine configuration whare wine menu am not found it06:36
itsnotabigtruckdanileigh79: any idea about the ideal way to run commands as root during boot?06:36
ceothat a proble, of me.06:36
itsnotabigtruckthe google isn't providing much help06:36
fds2I'd like to backup my /home folder, so I "tar cvf /media/general/homebackup.tar /media/ubuntu/home".  When I "tar cvf /media/general/homebackup.tar /media/ubuntu/home", I get "tar: /media/general: Not found in archive" and "tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors".  /media/ubuntu/ is ext4, media/general/ is NTFS06:36
ceoam not found the wine menu06:36
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: in what context?06:36
ceoright now google can't help me06:36
itsnotabigtruckto write something to a sysfs file, it's to control vgaswitcheroo06:36
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: um... no idea, lemme see if my friend has any idea06:37
itsnotabigtruckfds2: that's...interesting06:37
itsnotabigtruckwhat happens if you do ls /media/general06:37
fds2itsnotabigtruck: it lists homebackup.tar06:38
itsnotabigtruckargh, compiz just crashed06:39
itsnotabigtruckfds2: try deleting/renaming homebackup.tar first06:39
itsnotabigtruck(just a shot in the dark)06:39
Technicusitsnotabigtruck: Excellant!06:39
itsnotabigtruckTechnicus: you got the new driver working?06:39
itsnotabigtruckyou should get an obnoxious nvidia logo before you log in, if it's operational06:40
Technicusitsnotabigtruck: Video is working great . . . thanks a lot!  After the update the the hardware displayed the drivers.06:40
ceoThe file '/media/9E80F9D280F9B0BF/Windows Applikasi/ms office/Microsoft_office_2007/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.06:40
milamberfds2: if you are using the c switch in both that is the problem06:40
itsnotabigtruckceo: we heard that the first time06:40
itsnotabigtruckand what we're saying is, you can't run setup.exe like that06:40
yagooceo, wrong channel to talk about windows viruses and how to protect windows06:41
itsnotabigtruckoffice won't run correctly, with or without wine06:41
kevdog!ubuntu06:41
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com06:41
itsnotabigtruckyou need to switch back to windows and install office there06:41
ceoyagoo, am not talk about windows, am talk  how to install windows application on ubuntu06:41
milamberfds2: tar -xvf to extract06:41
itsnotabigtruckor switch to something else other than office06:41
itsnotabigtruckyou can't run setup.exe06:41
fds2milamber: I only used c switch in first step to create archive, not in 2nd step to restore it06:41
gslackand make sure its a good copy06:41
gslackjus sayin06:41
yagooceo, you giving advice on where to get warez? sounds like you're having a problem understand what ELF is06:42
fds2milamber: oops, I typed that wrong.  Allow me to correct...06:42
itsnotabigtruckyagoo: no, he's trying to install office on linux06:42
itsnotabigtruckand won't listen06:42
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: I ound his link for editing commands as sudo during startup http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=287563206:42
itsnotabigtruck(or she's)06:42
ceohai am used the original ms office, am need  install on ubuntu with wine, but can't06:42
ceoi can't install it yagoo06:43
fds2I'd like to backup my /home folder, so I "tar cvf /media/general/homebackup.tar /media/ubuntu/home".  When I "tar xpvf /media/general/homebackup.tar /media/general/", I get "tar: /media/general: Not found in archive" and "tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors".  /media/ubuntu/ is ext4, media/general/ is NTFS06:43
yagooceo, so what? we all use openoffice here. what do i care about msoffice?06:43
xqvp43ceo, you can use crossover06:43
itsnotabigtruckand danileigh79: yeah, i found some stuff about rc.local, was somewhat wary about editing it though06:43
gslackceo,  do u dual boot windows and linux?06:43
danileigh79itsnotabigtruck: I don't blame you, me too06:44
OutofAnswershow'dya prep an old (secondary) NTFS windows disk for install?  Gparted or Startup Disk Creator, or...?  Cuz it locked up on install...06:44
itsnotabigtrucknm, i was looking at the wrong file (/etc/init.d/rc.local) which isn't meant to be edited, rc.local looks less scary06:44
itsnotabigtruck(in /etc)06:44
ceoopenoffice so bad, not good, you know that, msoffice is the best for office06:44
kevdogYo can edit rc.local06:44
* yagoo thinks ceo is trolling06:45
* gslack thinks yagoo may be right06:45
ceoyagoo, you say, the best is openoffice, kekekek that bad tool for office, am need work and am need ms office, couse that the pro one.06:45
danileigh79yagoo: be nice, doesn't sound like english is their first lanlguage, sounds like maybe even using an outdated translator06:45
gslackceo,  do u dual boot windows and linux?06:46
yagoodanileigh79, well they can leave here becuase i'm not entertained06:46
milamberfds2: if you are extracting to the same folder you can omit the second part of the command, so: tar -xvf /media/general/homebackup.tar06:46
ceoxqvp43, crossover em.. did you have the ilegal download or warez download for crosover.06:46
danileigh79yagoo: we're not here to entertain u06:46
yagoodanileigh79, read again.06:46
milamberfds2: and what do you have mounted there? (/media/)06:46
genesis__how can i install gnash on crapbuntu 9.1006:46
ceogslack, am not used dual boot06:46
UndiFineDceo, yes there are differences between openoffice and ms office, still,  if you need to use ms office I recommend runnind windows in virtualbox06:47
ceogslack, why ?06:47
yagoodanileigh79, soudns like u dont know what ceo is up to other than talking warez and stupidity06:47
itsnotabigtruckceo: maybe you should use windows06:47
tanathrunning wine uninstaller crashes every time. any help? http://pastebin.com/ACriZFvW06:47
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itsnotabigtruckif you absolutely have to use microsoft office06:47
itsnotabigtruckwindows is the best choice06:47
danileigh79yagoo: he needs to find out how to use msoffice in wine, because he needs to use msoffice pro for work06:47
tanathi installed a stupid app which doesn't even seem to have an uninstaller, and now i can't use the wine uninstaller06:47
yagoowow06:47
itsnotabigtruck^^^ ceo06:47
yagookids06:47
OutofAnswersceo: get a mac with iWorks... you sound like just the kinda user they make their stuff for... kekekeke06:47
ceoyagoo, you stupidity, fck. am just want install ms office06:48
gslackceo,  ok then you cant run an office install straight up in wine to my knowledge06:48
itsnotabigtruckceo: you want to do something that can't be done06:48
itsnotabigtruckat least without a lot of pain and suffering06:48
LinuxFetusHey I have an easy (I think) general question about Ubuntu Studio.  I asked in there and didn't get a response, so I'd thought I'd ask in here.  When I go to the download page, all of the files say "alternate."  Is that normal?  Thanks!06:48
* ruan prefers Openoffice over ms office06:48
xqvp43not tried yet. just learned from articles. I do not think it is necessary using ms office under ubuntu..06:48
ruanLinuxFetus: yes06:48
kevdognext topic??06:48
itsnotabigtruckLinuxFetus: hmm. well, the alternate installer lets you do a regular ubuntu install06:48
itsnotabigtruckit's just not quite as pretty06:49
ceoitsnotabigtruck, what i do/06:49
ruan!alternate06:49
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal06:49
itsnotabigtruckceo: install windows06:49
ruanceo: or use openoffice06:49
fds2milamber: ls /media results in "cdrom"06:49
LinuxFetusitsnotabigtruck, I could care less about using a GUI.  Thanks!  you too ruan.06:49
ceoUndiFineD, that have probel on virtualbox to, am can't used usb for install my ms office06:50
itsnotabigtruckanyway, i need some sleep, later, i'll mess with rc.local later :)06:50
gslackceo,  two sites to help u... http://www.winehq.org/help/06:50
ceoand am not have windows,06:50
danileigh79ceo: http://www.junauza.com/2010/04/how-to-install-microsoft-office-on.html06:50
UndiFineDceo, that is what backup images are for06:50
gslackand   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine06:51
OutofAnswersLinuxFetus: you get what I mean?06:51
{{localhost}}hi i am wondering why NFS will cause packets loss when playing any media files when i do ifconfig06:51
ceodanileigh79, thnks but that i have do, and work but am still can't install my ms office am used ubuntu 10.1006:51
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ayeceelocalhost: this happens only when you run ifconfig?06:51
milamberfds2: you are trying to extract files to a directory that doesn't exist. you have to switch to /media and then do a mkdir general; however i wouldn't do that as the /media/ directory is designed for just that - physical media. backing up to the same hard drive doesn't make much sense if that's what you are trying to do.06:51
ceogslack, you link nice, but that slove my proble to...06:51
danileigh79ceo: then if it doesn't work, it doesn't work06:52
gslack{{localhost}},  why are you running ifconfig while playing media files?06:52
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{{localhost}}because on the router it have a lot of dropped packets06:52
milamberceo: this doesn't really have anything to do with ubuntu, maybe #winehq could be of more assistance06:52
ceodanileigh79, what you mean, am have install the ms office on my windows at home, that  can istall it and good06:52
danileigh79ceo, if it doesn't work in wine, then you cannot install it on linux06:52
ceobut on windows am can't install it, am have used wine and pcon linx to.06:52
ceodanileigh79, all windows application can't run on wine, am have test it.06:53
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ceoall application can't i run it06:53
danileigh79ceo: no, not all windows progams work on wine06:53
{{localhost}}gslack, and on the NFS server ifconfig says: RX packets:40853292 errors:0 dropped:26947 overruns:0 frame:006:54
ceoyes all windows program,06:54
fds2milamber: I'm trying to backup /home so I can install 11.04 (long story), but my first pass using cp failed, assumingly because the target partition was NTFS and therefore did not retain file persmissions.   I want to tar /home with p to save permissions, then extract to an ext4 folder and then diff the two folders to make sure they are duplilcates06:54
ceoam have test it, one my  ubuntu, and milamber am have used ubuntu, and the probel on ubuntu not on wine develper.06:54
ceomy uubntu can't run wine app well06:54
danileigh79ceo: wine isn't perfect06:55
toaddanileigh79, I'm ubuntu'ing06:55
toadYAY06:55
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toadthis went rather smooth, I think I'll put it on my other laptop06:55
toadI have it all setup to my liking in like 5 minutes06:55
ceodanileigh79, what the perfect, am can't install ms office that mean perfect06:55
danileigh79ceo: nevermind I'm going to bed06:56
danileigh79adios all have fun06:56
danileigh79toad: fennucci ??06:56
danileigh79toad_: fennucci??06:57
FTWFTWFTWtoad: WHAT INSTALL?  What OS?06:57
gslack{{localhost}},  not sure I can help you on that without any particulars on your setup and distro/version06:57
toadubuntu06:57
ceohumf can't solve my proble, the ubuntu team is f*ck06:57
FTWFTWFTWoh..06:57
toadyeah06:57
toadubuntu YAY!06:57
toadheh06:57
danileigh79toad: congratz, I gotta go to bed though, look for me tomorrow06:57
milamberfds2: then create a directory for your backup: sudo mkdir /backup      then create your tar, copy your tar: sudo cp mybackup.tar /backup and then extract it: sudo tar -xpvf mybackup.tar06:57
FTWFTWFTWMacbuntu is what I have up right now...  Pretty cool.  The apple logos can go tho...06:58
UndiFineDceo, reread what we said06:58
toadwell danileigh79 I'm sure you'll be seeing alot of meh06:58
gslackceo, what u want is not logical nor possible in wine right now06:58
toadwell maybe not, so long as I dont incounter many problems06:58
toad:P06:58
FTWFTWFTWceo: you are fck...  \06:58
ceoUndiFineD, am have read all what you said guy06:58
ceoFTWFTWFTW,  you are fck ...\06:58
fds2milamber: Thanks.  Will do.06:58
FTWFTWFTWlol06:58
FTWFTWFTWkakakaka06:58
danileigh79toad: :) have fun with ubuntu, and read up on the forums, and don't be afraid to google something, just make sure you put linux or ubuntu in the search too06:58
UndiFineDso, install virtualbox, windows, ms office, done06:59
FTWFTWFTWlater all.. bst of luck06:59
milamberfds2: also, use the p switch when creating tar. i'll be around for a bit if you have any more issues06:59
gslacki really think ceo is trolling06:59
ceogslack, you mama trolling fck06:59
danileigh79gslack: i'm finally begining to agree with you06:59
gslacklol he likes me07:00
UndiFineD!language ceo07:00
milamberceo: have you set the executable bit on the file? is it on an ext3/4 partition?07:00
danileigh79seems like it lmao07:00
gslacki have a way with ....ppl07:00
danileigh79milamber: save your breath, he's been playing us from the moment he got here, he's not doing anything we've told him to do07:00
tanathany time i run the wine uninstaller or regedit they crash. can anyone help?07:00
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ceomilamber, yes07:00
milamberdanileigh79: breath saved then, thanks07:01
danileigh79good night!07:01
tanathor task manager07:01
ceoUndiFineD, am from indonesia  but on that chanel like fck chanel so fck fck on id ubuntu07:01
milambertanath: how did you install wine?07:01
UndiFineD!ops07:01
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tanathmilamber, repository.. using 1.307:01
UndiFineDI warned ceo for language07:02
UndiFineDthanks07:02
milambertanath: have you tried: sudo apt-get remove wine      ?07:02
gslackgood call07:02
tanathmilamber, i did reinstall it...07:02
gslackmay have to do a complete removal07:03
tanathmilamber, and i wouldn't be able to run them for sure if it weren't installed at all07:03
milambertanath: apt-get remove is the opposite of install, have you tried running it?07:03
tanathmilamber, as i said, i reinstalled it07:04
tanathmilamber, as in, aptitude reinstall07:04
tanathmilamber, if i uninstalled wine then i wouldn't be able to use wine.. how does that help me use wine?07:04
milamber(01:00:52 AM) tanath: any time i run the wine uninstaller or regedit they crash. can anyone help?07:05
operatorpliktolong07:05
tanathmilamber, task manager too07:05
vacanhaey07:05
milambertanath: then you need to be more specific on what you are trying to do. that seems to me like you are trying to uninstall wine07:05
gslacksame07:05
operatorplikada orang indonesia ngak07:05
Duhzawhen i install my ubuntu desktop on my mac osx it just says debian 4. something07:05
tanathmilamber, no... i'm trying to run various wine utilities, like regedit, task manager and uninstaller07:05
tanathmilamber, i didn't realize that was unclear07:06
tanathmilamber, they all crash07:06
Duhzamilamber when i try to install ubunutn desktop it just says debian 4. something else07:07
milambertanath: does anything work with wine then?07:07
gslacklol god im glad I dont screw with wine anymore lol07:07
genesis__how can i install gnash on crapbuntu 9.1007:07
tanathmilamber, winecfg runs fine07:07
gslackthe app "playonlinux" helps a great deal07:08
tanathmilamber, so do things like my diablo 2 mod07:08
ruangenesis__: you're not going to get an answer for 'crapbuntu', please stop using that word07:08
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tanathi installed a stupid game maker app that seems evil, so tried to uninstall it, but now i can't run various wine utilities07:09
DaPenguinhey, anyone ever run into the issue where an mpeg4 video just stops playing and no other mpeg4 vids will play? vlc still works so i'm thinking it's an issue with gstreamer.07:09
ruantanath: did you purge wine?07:09
ruantanath: it might've damaged wine's settings07:09
tanathruan, hm, no07:09
bonjoyeeis there a way to merge bootable cds into one disk keeping their individual menus intact?07:09
tanathruan, i just want to be careful, because i do have apps installed i don't want to lose07:10
ruantanath: back them up, delete everything and restore them07:10
genesis__ruan, I thought u people would be helpful but u dont care07:10
ruangenesis__: it's called 'ubuntu'07:11
bonjoyeeDaPenguin: try "rm  .gstreamer-0.10/registry.*.bin"07:11
Kimmengenesis__: 9.10 isn't a supported version anymore07:11
milambergenesis__: sudo apt-get install gnash07:11
gslackproper version of gnash should be in ubuntu repos07:11
milamber!9.1007:11
ubottuUbuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://goo.gl/UUTAB for details.07:11
DaPenguinbonjoyee, that the temp dir? hmm, kk, i'll take a look07:11
Kimmenoh look at that =)07:11
ruaneol is 1 day after natty is released07:12
toad_where can I find a dictionary of sorts to learn command line terminology?07:12
milamber25 days or so :)07:12
bastidrazor!terminal | toad_07:12
ubottutoad_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:12
bonjoyeeDaPenguin: inside your home folder07:12
ruantoad_: the command line itself is also a dictionary, if you use autocomplete07:12
ruantoad_: though that link is probably more helpful07:12
DaPenguinbonjoyee, yeah, just wondering exactly what that does. not all that familiar gstreamer07:13
ruanalso the 'help' command07:13
DaPenguin*with07:13
toad_how can I use the terminal as a dictionary?07:13
kevdogany thoughts on bodi linux ubuntu variant?07:13
bonjoyeeDaPenguin: just deletes the gstreamer codec registry..it recreates it when you play media files07:14
ruantoad_: the command 'help' and with autocomplete07:14
gslackkevdog,  its a nice looking distro07:14
DaPenguinbonjoyee, kk, and no joy, ugh07:14
gslacktried the live cd once liked its looks but e17 is still too buggy for me07:14
kevdoganyone ever use it -- I dig e17 for my way older computers07:14
ruantoad_: tab is autocomplete, pressing it twice shows all commands that it can autocomplete to07:14
bonjoyeeDaPenguin: any error message while playing the videos?07:14
gslacki run an ATI card so... lol07:15
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DaPenguinbonjoyee, checking now, doing it from the gui just kills the window07:15
kevdogoh ok -- intel graphics for older computer07:15
ruantoad_: i'd also suggest that link07:15
gslackwell the base i tried was from ubuntu 10.0407:16
gslacke17 is still considered beta07:16
nyRednekquestion, where is the menu.lst for grub config?07:16
gslackgood rule of themb is how well your ssytem runs that version of ubuntu main07:17
DaPenguinnyRednek, it's grub.cfg on ubuntu, or /etc/defaults/grub to edit the auto generated cfg file07:17
ruantoad_: there are programs for the terminal which can do tasks such as browsing, downloading, irc, and video/audio playing07:18
kevdogactually I think e17 isnt even alpha yet07:18
Strykeri think opendic does something with terminal toad07:18
nyRednekDaPenguin: so no menu.lst?07:18
gslacknah pretty sure its hit beta just recently but then again i could be wrong07:19
gslacklol 8 years at alpha i think07:19
DaPenguinnyRednek, nope, same file is stored in grub.cfg07:19
toad_well I want to learn command line07:19
Strykeranybody know how to reverse a track in ardour?07:19
cipherWill reverting to an older version of GDM (no more themes) potentially mess anything up?07:19
gslackits fast and unique tho07:20
ruancipher: usually downgrades mess things up if programs are dependent on a newer version07:20
nyRednekDaPenguin: where is that? in /boot?07:20
ruancipher: im not sure about gdm07:20
tanathruan, ok, i purged wine and installed again, and it still crashes >.<07:20
Strykertoad_, you could use elinks to go to a dictionary site from terminal07:20
cipheralright thanks, i suppose I will just avoid it until i hear other words :p07:21
tanathruan, was really hoping to avoid losing stuff07:21
milambertoad_: if you hang out here, you will learn lots of command line stuff. anything in particular?07:21
ruantanath: can wine config launch?07:21
DaPenguinbonjoyee, hmm, getting an integer parameter out of range error, http://pastebin.com/awzKEBAj07:21
tanathruan, yup07:21
tanathruan, but regedit, taskmgr and uninstaller crash. uninstaller is the one i want at the moment07:22
tanathruan, revo won't run either07:22
DaPenguinnyRednek, /boot/grub/grub.cfg07:22
ruantanath: looks like a corrupt registry07:22
tanathruan, i deleted the folder for the app i installed and want gone.. couldn't trust the uninstaller to run it... might that have done it07:23
ruansince all of those apps read from the registry to get data07:23
nyRednekDaPenguin: then just reboot from that?07:23
ruantanath: you might need to remove the registry07:24
colin_I edited my grub to run windows 7 as my default OS but it still wont do it07:24
colin_any advice?07:24
tanathruan, are not cdkeys & such typically stored there?07:24
tanathruan, i don't want to have to reinstall apps07:25
ruantanath: yeah :/07:25
ciphercolin_, why don't you just format any ntfs partitions?07:25
DaPenguintanath, it's config information for windows apps07:25
cipheroh wait, sorry lol07:25
ruantanath: some apps are portable and work without reg keys, but some need to be regged in the registry to work07:25
tanathruan, actually, i found the registry file and am looking through it now... doesn't look like it does have cdkey info.. so far07:26
Strykeranybody know how to reverse a track in ardour?07:26
tanathruan, mhm07:26
ruantanath: try to remove registry keys related to that app07:26
tanathDaPenguin, among other things... like cdkeys, often07:26
genesis__whyu07:26
tanathruan, looking for them..07:26
DaPenguintanath, sometimes, yes07:26
colin_cipher, format to what? I have about 3 partitions that are ntfs07:26
ruantanath: and the uninstaller key for that app07:26
gslackcolin did u run update grub?07:27
genesis__why the guys that made ubuntu doesnt do suport for gnash07:27
colin_gslack, i just used the application but no i didnt run that07:27
ruan!info gnash07:27
ubottugnash (source: gnash): GNU Shockwave Flash (SWF) player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.8-5ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 176 kB, installed size 492 kB07:27
Strykeryou can make ubuntu genesis__07:27
ruangenesis__: does sudo apt-get install gnash work?07:27
gslackwell sometimes the app fails to do that07:27
gslackgo to terminal and sudo update grub07:28
ruansudo update-grub07:28
colin_okay i just did that so i'll restart and see then07:28
gslackty ruan07:28
gslackyep try it07:29
DaPenguinugh, thinking this is probably a fglrx issue with the movie players07:29
milamberruan: already told him to do that ~ no response07:29
ruanno response here either07:30
gslackmaybe hes ceo's friend07:30
gslacklol07:30
maxhello all07:31
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Guest10828how is everybody?07:31
tanathruan, well, that doesn't belong.. "[Software\\Classes\\adbanner.adbanner] 1267492447"07:31
Guest10828could anybody help me wit backtrack?07:32
LewocoWhen I run 'nautilus' nothing seems to happen. Does anyone have any ideas why not?07:32
cipheri am curious, when i was in the login screen i hit cntrl-alt-f1 and then logged in as rooted. exported screen to 0.0. and ran gnome control center. however the screen did not spawn in the login screen?07:32
cipher(i have looked for an answer for a hour or so btw)07:32
ruantanath: addbanner o_O07:32
ruanad*07:32
tanathruan, yeah... i knew after going through the installer it was a bad app... no close button, no uninstaller shortcuts, etc07:33
tanathruan, buddy says it's great though :P07:33
ruantanath: lol07:33
ruantanath: maybe it works better on windows itself.. or maybe its a virus07:34
Lewococipher, Can you start other gui apps like gnome-terminal?07:34
cipherlewoco: I did it before on another ubuntu machine :p07:34
ruanLewoco: can you run 'gksudo nautilus'?07:34
ruanjust a random check07:35
tanathruan, yeah, it didn't work. said click here to start but did nothing. works on windows apparently. but yeah, it seems to be bundled with malware07:35
ruantanath: adware too, it seems07:35
rodhashHey guys, I just formated an external disk with mkfs.ntfs and latter it's mounted as fuseblk.. any idea why it's not ntfs as FS type?07:35
Lewocoruan, Cool that works.07:35
ruanLewoco: though it runs as root07:35
tanathruan, as far as i'm concerned adware is malware07:35
ruantanath: it's all malicious, yea07:35
mah454I eed java plugin for firefox .07:35
tanathruan, if i don't want it there and it insists on anything against my will, it's evil07:36
ruanmah454: install icedtea07:36
Lewocoruan, Why on earth does nautilus need root? Isn't it just a file browser?07:36
ruanLewoco: i guess it just failed without it. it doesnt need it though07:36
ruanLewoco: might be some permission error07:36
theoshi! what would be an easy to use remote desktop application for ubuntu?07:36
ruantheos: teamviewer07:37
tanathruan, FYI it was something called "mario worker" and it's available on download.com (cnet)07:37
theosso that i can configure my friend's pc remotely07:37
theosruan, thanks :)07:37
tanathruan, so much for their so-called reliability07:37
ruantanath: hmm07:37
Sonnetheos, actually there should be a menu entry already for it07:37
tanathruan, more: [Software\\Classes\\AMtoolbar.AMtoolbar.1\\CLSID] 126749244707:38
Sonnetry system -> preferences -> remote desktop07:38
theosSonne, by what name?07:38
theosoh07:38
ruantanath: looks like an ie toolbar07:38
tanathruan, installer offered some things all of which i deliberately unchecked.. but i've learned it's pointless. it does stuff anyway. and i'm being proven right07:38
ruantanath: i bet an antivirus would've went off at that07:38
tanathruan, not likely. i've seen enough comps infected without alerts..07:38
ruanyes but behaviorical detection07:39
tanathruan, and it's not a virus, but other malware07:39
jiltdilhow to on off my speaker sount through terminal?07:39
Lewocoruan, What can I do to figure out where the problem lies?07:39
ruaninstalls ie toolbar, modifies registry07:39
tanathruan, well other apps may have, but likely not an antivirus07:39
ruanLewoco: you could check the logs07:39
Lewocoruan, Where are they?07:39
ruanLewoco: /var/log/07:39
kumar_hi i am new to irc07:39
kumar_can anyone get me?07:40
jiltdil how to on/off my speaker sound through terminal?07:40
lariousruan: am tired about my ubuntu... I need Java .deb so that i can have sun java on my linux07:40
Sonnejiltdil, alsamixer, M07:40
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Sonnekumar_, hello07:41
lariousruan: am tired about my ubuntu... I need Java .deb so that i can have sun java on my linux07:41
ruanlarious: sudo apt-get install -d sun-java6-jre07:41
jiltdilsonne: but in this i have to mute the sound i want something like that when i enter a command the speaker off07:41
ruanlarious: then look in /var/apt/cache for the downloaded .deb07:42
ruanlarious:sorry i meant  sudo apt-get -d install sun-java6-jre07:42
kumar_Ya07:42
Sonnejiltdil, throw a man amixer - i'm sure you can find a way by poking a bit07:42
kumar_How to use IRC?07:42
theoskumar_, join #help07:43
tanathruan, so glad i know about clsids07:43
larious<ruan: I dont have internet for my Ubuntu I use .deb that I download with another os, like using xp to donw it from the net07:43
kumar_#help07:43
theoskumar_, type /join #help07:43
jiltdilSonne:thanx i will study it07:43
ruanlarious: ohhh07:44
ruanlarious: packages.ubuntu.com07:44
lariousnot getting package for lucid07:44
ileacan somebody help me?07:45
bonjoyeelarious: still struggling?07:45
ruanlarious: do you need sun java or can you use openjdk java?07:45
tanathi "love" microsoft. looked up help for something on their site, and got this: "This article applies to a different operating system than the one you are using. Article content that may not be relevant to you is disabled."07:45
ileai downloaded the new firefox and it is in tar.gz format07:45
gslacklol07:45
tanathi'm using ubuntu..07:45
ileacan someone help me install it07:46
tanathwhy would they assume they know what os i need help with?07:46
ruantanath: they check your browser's useragent07:46
gslackactivex07:46
bonjoyeedid you follow these http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting ?07:46
bonjoyeelarious: ^^^^07:46
tanathruan, oh, i know HOW they do it07:46
ruantanath: lol07:46
lariousruan: am new to linux and want to do it carefully, if you can give me the one that is compactible, I wnt to complie a program and this program need java07:46
tanathruan, just not why.. i'll often be looking up something for someone else..07:46
gslackthey do it cause mr gates wills it so07:46
tanathruan, it's stupid to hide info based on something like that07:47
ruantrue07:47
gslackthey fear u will run off make a new windows clone07:47
ruanlol07:47
tanathgslack, that'd be ballmer actually. gates is off saving the world07:47
gslacksell it for a hundred less07:47
gslacktrue lol07:48
masterhello every body07:48
tanathgslack, yeah, it's called linux :P07:48
xqvp43hi there,  is there a symantic ghost of like to backup/restore ubuntu partitions?07:48
xqvp43reinstall on system broken is a hard ting07:48
gslackwell all we have to do is start charging and we can be just like em07:49
gslackwell.. that and usurp all others in our area07:49
bonjoyeexqvp43: clonezilla.org07:49
lariousruan: am new to linux and want to do it carefully, if you can give me the one that is compactible, I wnt to complie a program and this program need java07:49
arandxqvp43: Look into clonezilla or systemrescuecd/fsarchiver07:49
ruanlarious: go to the link that bonjoyee gave you07:49
gslacki only caught the linux bug 5 years ago. but two things I keep handy at all times is grb rescue disk, and system rescue CD07:50
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 5 could not be found07:50
gslacksaved me from myself a geat deal07:50
ruanlol07:51
gslackanyone here ever messed with PC-BSD?07:53
xqvp43thank you bonjoyee and arand. I am checking on clonezilla.07:53
arandgslack: Offtopic, mind you.07:54
gslacktrue sorry just happened to see it listed on distrowatch07:55
kumar_clear07:55
kumar_TIMER07:57
home-alonehi...how to mount ntfs drive...???? My ntfs drives are read only07:57
gslackhome-alone,  easiest way is to use ntfs configuration tool07:59
gslacku can get it through software center or synaptic easily enough07:59
home-alonewhat is it called..???07:59
gslackpretty simple and straightforward to use as well08:00
gslackntfs configuration tool08:00
r1tz:D :D :D08:01
gslackit enables/disables read/write in ntfs partitions08:01
lariousruan & bonjoyee: I have .bin file there how do I do it with that?08:02
gslackhome-alone,  as soon as u install it it will be in administration under ntfs configuration tool08:03
gslackonce u run it it will mount all your ntfs partitions for u08:03
ruanlarious: when you put it on the ubuntu pc, open a terminal08:03
gslackwell so long as u enable read/write on them in the app08:03
halpbatmancan ubuntu handle more than one display?08:04
ruanlarious: then type chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin08:04
jiltdilhow to create iso image from terminal?08:04
ruanlarious: put the file in home08:04
bonjoyeelarious: folloe the steps i gave you...08:04
halpbatmanping08:04
ruanhalpbatman: ubuntu can handle more than one display08:05
ruannot sure how though08:05
lariousruan & bonjoyee: Thank you bros, I will get back to you soon08:05
XATRIXhi guys, is it possible to run 2 jobs at the same time via cron ?08:06
XATRIXi did it like this08:06
XATRIXbut it's not working08:06
leapy0yohi08:06
XATRIX*/60 * * * * screen /home/xatrix/games/arma2oaserver sync && screen /home/xatrix/games/arma2oaserver repo08:06
ruanXATRIX: && does it after another08:06
leapy0yois there a way to have two users attach the same screen istance?08:07
ruanXATRIX: a solution is to run 2 scripts, or run one in the background by using &08:07
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r1tz&& does the second one if the first passed08:08
ruanyes08:08
ruan; does it regardless if it failed or not08:08
* r1tz renames channel to #bash ;)08:09
ruanlol08:09
introubleHello?08:10
introubleSorry, I'm so desperate. Is anybody willing to help me? It's urgent08:10
_drag0nzhey guys, im trying to apt-get install lynx but it just stays on this: Get:1 http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main lynx-cur i386 2.8.8dev.3-3 [1,211kB] - 0% [1 lynx-cur 0B/1,211kB 0%]08:11
Al-Bawihi there , can i upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 32-bit to 11.04 without erasing my current applications and games ?08:11
_drag0nzit doesnt download the packages.. any idea why its doing that?08:11
gslackintrouble,  whats the emergency,08:12
ruan_drag0nz: switch the dl mirror08:12
introubleMy netbook keeps booting to a shell. It says it can't mount sys nor dev nor another thing. When I try to safely reboot with reisub, it goes into kernel panic!08:12
introublePlease, somebody help me.08:12
ruan_drag0nz: system > administration > software sources08:12
introubleI would be so grateful.08:13
XATRIXguys need to run 2 commands by cron one after one finished08:13
XATRIXhow can i do it ?08:13
_drag0nzruan, this is ubuntu server, where are they located?08:13
ruan_drag0nz: oh08:13
_drag0nzruan, and where can i find mirror addresses?08:13
ruan_drag0nz: you need to change the place where ubuntu downloads its software from08:13
ruannot too sure how to do that in terminal08:13
syn-ackyou edit the sources.list directly is all08:13
introubleCan anyone help me? It won't load my operating system, I don't know how to fix it on my own.08:14
syn-ackthere used to be a list of servers on the ubuntu site. Not sure if it's still there.08:14
nickalshow do i install everything after the installation is complete? i mean, i want to do like "apt-get install everything-humanly-possible"08:14
nickalsfor a desktop08:14
ruanintrouble: run a fsck on the drive, it seems to not be able to mount08:14
ruan!fsck08:14
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot08:14
nickalsnon-server08:14
gslackintrouble,  do you have a live CD/DVD media disk of your OS?08:14
syn-acknickals, You can't, really08:15
introubleYes, that's what I'm running now08:15
syn-acknickals and you really don't want to do that in the first place08:15
introublei don't even think I have enough space to back up my files.08:15
nickalssyn-ack, any ones that would knock out a large amount of the stuff you would want on a desktop?08:15
ruanintrouble: you could do online backup08:15
introubleWith what service?08:15
syn-acknickals, many.08:15
ruanintrouble: i use mediafire08:15
gslackintrouble,  not sure i follow u here. u ran a live cd and thats what happened?08:15
introubleI can't afford to pay for anything08:15
nickalssyn-ack, im installing it for someone else, im use to slackware which comes totally loaded outta the box for the most part, i know ubuntu lacks a lot in comparision08:15
introubleNo08:16
ruanintrouble: it's free08:16
syn-acknickals, define lacks a lot.08:16
nickalslike it only has gnome08:16
nickalsno kde08:16
nickalsand like08:16
introublegnome-battery-moniter was freaking out over my power chord, it was being fickle about its position08:16
nickalsonly a couple web browsers, not all 25 of them08:16
introubleand then my pc died08:16
syn-acknickals, They're in the repos...08:17
introubleand I finally get it to accept the chords power and it loads to shell08:17
nickalssyn-ack, yea but i dont wanna spend all night apt-get'ting each thing one by one08:17
introublesaying it couldn't mount anything08:17
introubleAlthough it looks to me like the files are still there08:17
syn-acknickals, well, that's about the only way you can do it, tbh08:17
gslackintrouble,  i would first go int obios and do some checking08:18
nickals:/08:18
gslackgo into bios make sure nothings fried if u can08:18
introubleWhat should I be looking for?08:18
introubleHow would I be able to tell?08:18
introubleI used the boot drive to check for errors, but it couldn't come up with anything08:18
syn-acknickals, and to be honest, Slack really is a bad example of "what's lacking" since they don't even have an effective package manager. but that's neither here nor there08:19
gslacksee if ur drives are all listed and all.08:19
introublealthough the boot drive carries an older distro08:19
introublethey are!08:19
gslacknot sure how u get into bios from urs depends on ur bios08:19
nickalssyn-ack, you obviously havent used slack recently08:19
introubleNo, I'm telling you, my hard drive is there and I can access it from this boot drive.08:20
nickalstry being up-to-date before making such comments08:20
gslackwith u losing power like u did u could have lost a lot of system files08:20
introubleIt checked for errors08:20
introubleIt came up nothing08:20
nickals(cause it does have a package manager now, thats very similar to apt-get)08:20
Tyrnisplop all08:20
introubleIt said my drive was fine08:20
gslackok then its a os error. if u have live media u can try and fix the corrupt or missing files08:20
nickalssyn-ack, and slackware comes a lot more loaded "out-of-the-box"08:20
ruanintrouble: when you boot, can you boot in recovery mode?08:20
nickalssyn-ack, just sayin08:20
syn-acknickals, That's not always a good thing.08:21
introubleRecovery mode?08:21
ruanintrouble: yes08:21
gslackty08:21
introubleFrom the bios or the shell?08:21
introubleI wouldn't know how from the shell08:21
ruanintrouble: shell08:21
gslackinsert ur live disk08:21
ruanintrouble: well, i mean ubuntu recovery mode08:21
ruan!recovery08:22
ubottuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"08:22
nickalssyn-ack, in the case of having a small hd, only way i can see it being bad. embedded systems and such08:22
gslackgot ya08:22
ruanintrouble: ok, that too08:22
introubleI didn't see an option for a recovery mode type of thing in my boot drive08:22
introubleAnd the shell's commands are basic08:22
syn-ackintrouble, it's there08:22
XATRIXguys, how can i restrict any operations (except reading) of file for every user ?08:22
introublewhat would I put?08:22
ruanintrouble: startx08:23
QuestPCHi! Can someone copy/paste me php 5.3.2 configure string from phpinfo() for latest LTS (10.04)? I've misconfigured php and apache is broken. Tried to upgrade 5.3.2 to 5.3.6 via compiling.08:23
ruanintrouble: what type of shell is it though08:23
ruanintrouble: is it a shell you can login to?08:23
XATRIXi mean, it shouldn't be moved, renamed,... by anyone08:23
introublestartx won't work in lucid08:23
introubleruan: Not that I know of. But I'm not familiar enough with bash08:23
gslackok a lot of info we dont have yet08:23
QuestPCthey've changed DNS and I ran configure with old freebsd 6.3 options instead of ubuntu 10.04 lts.08:23
gslackdo u use grub for one thing08:23
introublegslack: yes08:24
QuestPCnow I cannot get configure string, it is stored in PHP of any LTS installation08:24
introubleI tried start gdm, didn't do anything08:24
syn-ackintrouble, it's not in bash, it's in the bootloader.08:25
syn-ackintrouble, you reboot, hold shift after the bios init and it's in there08:25
gslackok then do u have a grub rescue disk?08:25
syn-ackmake sure you use the left shift.08:25
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introubleEr, wait. Hold shift after bios, recovery mode comes up?08:25
introubleThat's what I should do?08:25
syn-ackmmhmm08:26
ruanyep08:26
introubleAnd other than that, anything else I should try before I come back here?08:26
gslackbetter than my plan lol08:26
ruanif it works, after logging in, then type startx08:26
ruanit will start up the gui and should work afterwards08:26
QuestPCCan someone copy/paste phpinfo() configure string for 10.04 LTS, anyone? It is a matter of 5 seconds for anyone who runs LAMP. I don't need complete phpinfo only configure string.08:27
gslackone quick thing, if it works get yourself a grub rescue disk ASAP08:27
introubleDo I have to run any command to login? The shell it's been presenting me doesn't ask on its own.08:27
ruanintrouble: the recovery mode should ask to login08:27
introubleOkay08:27
introubleAwesome08:27
ruani hope it works08:27
introubleIf it works, I'm coming back to thank you guys08:27
introubleIt's 3am and I have to leave at 708:28
introubleWish me luck08:28
ruangood luck08:28
gslacksorry guys i thought he said he was running from live media08:29
jackdamielsSmbdy know how to install daily releas of unity 3d in 10.10?08:29
gslacknot me i hate unity08:29
gslackthe interface not the concept lol08:30
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vadimkiselev#php08:30
syn-ackjackdamiels, you don't.08:30
QuestPCAnyone has 10.04 LTS installed?08:30
Keshi`QuestPC: No.08:30
QuestPCKeshi`: Why?08:31
jackdamiels@syn-ack : what do you mean by, you don't08:31
syn-ackjackdamiels, first off, they don't have a ppa for that particular repo in 10.10 so if you want it, you will have to install the older version that comes with UNR and second off, PPAs are not supported08:31
Keshi`It is old.08:31
Keshi`I only use it on my server.08:31
QuestPCKeshi`: I also have it on my server.08:31
syn-ackjackdamiels, to install the daily, you'd have literally upgrade your entire DE upto and including the X server08:32
QuestPCKeshi`: Can you look for phpinfo() configure string for me, please?08:32
jackdamielssyn-ack now I understand, thank you very much08:32
Keshi`I am not at home and my server does not have sh...can later on if you like.08:33
syn-ackyeah, jackdamiels if you want to check out Unity, either install 11.04 to a VM or just upgrade to it on your live system08:33
jackdamielssyn-ack I tried to installing 11.04 on virtual box, but with no sucess08:34
QuestPCKeshi`: Ok, thanks. I'll try to ask at ubuntu forums. If nobody would reply there, I'll come here again. Thank you.08:34
introubleI love you. I love each and every single one of you.08:34
gslack11.04 A2 didn't like my system at all08:34
syn-ackjackdamiels, how long ago?08:34
introubleLove love love. I want to marry you.08:34
jackdamiels2 days ago08:34
gslacklol08:34
syn-ackjackdamiels, I've been running it for 6 weeks now, no major issues. Starting to stablise it's self real nice08:35
introubleWe're getting married, living in a quaint cottage, and having 8 penguin babies.08:35
introubleThank you thank you thank you thank you08:35
introuble!!! <3 <3 <3 XOXOXO08:35
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:35
syn-ackjackdamiels, did you do an online upgrade or a fresh install from one of the daily installers?08:35
gslacksyn-ack,  fixed ya08:35
syn-ackgslack, come again?08:36
ruan!yay | introuble08:36
ubottuintrouble: Glad you made it! :-)08:36
gslacksorry syn WAS TELLING HIM U FIXED HIS ISSUE08:36
gslack sorry08:36
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jackdamielssyn-ack I am talking about virtual box installing from beta 11.04 live cd08:36
introubleruan: It was pretty easy, too. Thank GOD you guys were here.08:36
introubleI don't know what I would have done without you <308:36
syn-ackgslack, ah.08:36
jackdamielssyn-ack I don't know other way to install it on virtual box08:37
shiftingcontrolthunderbird is fetching only 2 mails when i click get mail,but i have few thousands of mails to be fetched08:37
syn-ackintrouble, I'm glad you made it.08:37
ruanlol08:37
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McQueenHi, is there any website like logmein for linux?08:38
totohi there08:38
pestodear all, I have some problem with cpu frequency scaling. The acpi-cpufreq module is correctly loaded and the ondemand governor is active. However, cpufreq-info gives the following:  current policy: frequency should be within 3.40 GHz and 3.40 GHz.                   The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use                   within this range.08:38
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introubleOkay.... Time to sleep.08:38
introubleThanks so much, really.08:38
introubleI hope y'all have really incredible lives.08:39
Guest82426i installed ubuntu in a netbook, the netbook remix.08:39
introubleNight!08:39
Guest82426this netbook is from our school.08:39
gslacknight introuble08:39
Guest82426we have wifi. i do not want the students to see the wpa key. how should i do?08:39
shiftingcontrolGuest82426:means you want to hide the network on  scan ?08:40
Guest82426shiftingcontrol, no, the network is seen and known by everyone.08:40
Guest82426i just want to avoid the students to click and see the key to copy it and use their smartphones08:41
Guest82426cause if i right click properties under gnome, i can see everything.08:41
ruanGuest82426: gnome stores it, it doesn't give it out08:41
Guest82426they should use these computers.08:41
Guest82426ruan, right click and you see it08:42
mokte:)08:42
ruanGuest82426: yes but you're on the network, it stores the key for it08:42
Guest82426i know, i d just like for them not be able to see the key08:42
ruanthey can't see it externally08:42
Guest82426mmmmm yes they can08:42
ruanGuest82426: hmm08:42
Guest82426once they re connected,08:43
ruanGuest82426: they can't connect without the key08:43
Guest82426they can just right click and see the wpa key08:43
{C9}t00lsh3dHe's saying the students will be using the computer, and on the computer than can see they key, he doesn't want them to be capable of that.08:43
ruanohhhhhhh08:43
ruanright08:43
Guest82426ruan, ok:08:43
{C9}t00lsh3dMan what I just typed made no sense08:43
{C9}t00lsh3dlol08:43
Guest82426that s it. i don t want them to COPY the key for other devices08:43
ruanlol08:43
moktehi ppl08:43
gslacklol08:43
Guest82426is there a way?08:43
gslackwouldnt that be a aministrator only type of thing?08:44
ruanGuest82426: there should be, im not sure if wicd does it08:44
ruan!info wicd08:44
gslackor root vs user08:44
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.0+ds1-5 (maverick), package size 40 kB, installed size 88 kB08:44
Guest82426gslack, you mean create a user with restricted rights?08:44
Guest82426or change permissions of the file?08:45
{C9}t00lsh3dI can't seem to find a way to see the key in xubuntu maybe if you use xubuntu's network manager ?08:45
gslackwell do ur students all have separate usernames?08:45
Guest82426(which one)?08:45
Guest82426gslack, no, on e account could be created.08:45
{C9}t00lsh3dOne sex08:45
{C9}t00lsh3dsec*08:45
Guest82426:)08:45
pretenderrunning ubuntu lucid have a directory of .doc files wanting to convert to PDF files. how do I do this08:45
Guest82426{C9}t00lsh3d, easy though: you click on  the wifi antenna icon, right click, properties, modify, etc...08:46
{C9}t00lsh3dah I see now08:46
Guest82426another one: it supposed to ship unity... (10.10 netbook) but there s nothing here...08:47
Guest82426I just want something "easy": i know they could get it, by chrooting or liveCD ing... but they do not know nothing on this.. :)08:47
{C9}t00lsh3dJust don't leave I'm curious of how to do this as well so if I find a way I'll let you know08:48
ruanyou could use a different network manager, which is why i suggested wicd08:48
sunch这时哪里的论坛08:49
gslackwould have assumed this would have been limited in a regualr user account08:49
gslackwow08:49
Guest82426gslack, i ll create a user then... but i d like confirmation cause in such a small netbook, adding and adding won t do good08:49
sunch哪里?08:49
ruan!cn08:49
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk08:49
gslackyeah wait and see i may be wrong08:50
Guest82426{C9}t00lsh3d, i ll be there around.08:50
{C9}t00lsh3dI don't even know how to make limited accounts because I'm awesome like that08:50
Keshi^pretender: Print them to a pdf printer or open them up in openoffice and export them.08:50
gslacklol08:50
{C9}t00lsh3dAt that I hardly know how to make another account lol08:50
gslackjust create one user account for students08:51
Guest82426gslack, that s it?08:51
Guest82426System - Administration - Users and Groups08:52
gslacki have no idea to be honest if it will work08:52
gslacknot sure what would be limited08:52
gslacklet me run through users andf groups on here real quick08:52
gslackadministration/users and groups08:53
{C9}t00lsh3dIt's stalling on creation of a new user, SAD FACE08:53
brontosaurusrex_how can i choose mirror for natty download?08:53
gslackhmmmm08:53
icerootbrontosaurusrex_: #ubuntu+108:54
pretenderkeshi:  dont have a pdf printer installed how can i install one08:54
gslackwell i know u can manage what a user can access from there but not sure about ur particular situation08:54
llutz_pretender: apt-get install cups-pdf08:54
arazillahey, i just rebooted into linux, and suddenly my track pad does not work, tried a restart, and that didn't work, nor did the hardware enable/disableing of the track pad. any ideas?08:55
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Guest82426gslack, well, i click on advanced properties:08:55
Guest82426question is: if i give them the user privilege of accessing wifi and ethernet networks...08:55
Guest82426...08:55
gslackalso ubuntu is not as robust on this as Debian is.. so not sure how much u can limit effectively and still allow net access08:56
Guest82426gslack, ... :(08:56
gslackprolly better what on toolshed08:56
Guest82426i give a try08:56
ruanGuest82426: does the wicd connection manager show the key?08:57
gslacksorry man its a issue i never had08:57
gslackgot 3 kids and none of em want to use linux lol08:57
Guest82426ruan, i don t use it right now: they just have to run the default one, ... easy trick08:57
gslackso only one user08:57
zer0sgslack, why not?08:57
gslackah they like gaming08:57
zer0seh08:58
Guest82426gslack, it s a test. cause if i can avoid windows 7 and antivirus etc on these small poor things...08:58
gslacku know kids08:58
ruanGuest82426: yes but if you remove the default one and use wicd08:58
llutz_Guest82426: use wpa_supplicant to configure your wifi-network, set the conf to 600 and nobody except root will see the key08:58
zer0seventually porno addiction will win out gaming addiction08:58
ruanGuest82426: ok listen to llutz_08:58
gslacklol zer0s08:58
gslackyeah my boys at the age08:58
Guest82426llutz, ruan: easy to remove ONLY the gnome tool? don t even know the name...08:59
gslackwell guys im off for the night goodluck guest08:59
zer0sgnite08:59
llutz_Guest82426: networkmanager? no need, if you configure wifi in /etc/network/interfaces, it will ignore that interface (theoretically)08:59
arazillahey, i just rebooted into linux, and suddenly my track pad does not work, tried a restart, and that didn't work, nor did the hardware enable/disableing of the track pad. any ideas you can give me?09:00
zer0snetworkmanager is the better option for people who don't know what they're doing09:00
visual1cehi09:00
ruanyeh09:00
visual1cekeyserver.ubuntu.com down?09:00
zer0smessing around in /etc is going to be nothing but headaches09:00
{C9}t00lsh3dxD, just an idea Guest82426 remove the icon tray ?09:01
{C9}t00lsh3dThey could just put it back but maybe they wont know how09:01
ruanis there a way i can make my fullscreen login password invisible?09:03
ruanfullscreen login09:03
ruani mean09:03
ruanconsole09:03
visual1cetrying to add mozilla ppa for ff 4 but keyserver.ubuntu.com is timing out - not responding to ping either09:03
visual1cecan anyone verify?09:03
ruanFrom eth0.chenet.canonical.com (91.189.88.133) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable09:04
ruanyep visual1ce09:04
visual1ceya - me too09:04
{C9}t00lsh3dsame here09:04
visual1cethx09:04
ruani wonder hmm09:05
ruanhow could canonical's keyserv be offline09:05
visual1ceweird right?09:05
ruanyeah09:06
ayambitI do start-stop-daemon --chuid vbox --start --exec /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxwebsrv -- --background -H 194.85.195.183 -F /srv/log/vboxwebservice09:06
ayambitand it says vboxwebsrv: error: could not get base directory for logging: VERR_ACCESS_DENIED09:06
ayambitAny ideas?09:06
ayambitI granted ownership to vbox user on /srv/log09:06
ruanayambit: what happens if you do it with sudo?09:07
ayambitI'm doing this as root.09:07
ruanright09:07
Guest82426removing the icon is useless.09:08
visual1cewell now its just refusing connections - maybe DoS?09:08
ruanno it isnt09:08
ruan3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms09:08
ruanvisual1ce: it's back online here09:08
{C9}t00lsh3dSame here09:08
ruanvisual1ce: try adding the ppa again09:09
visual1cei did - twice09:09
{C9}t00lsh3d16 packets transmitted, 14 received, 12% packet loss, time 15013ms09:09
{C9}t00lsh3drtt min/avg/max/mdev = 165.098/169.835/180.234/3.966 ms09:09
BartzyHi09:09
BartzyI need to delete LOTS of files, I have their names (no name pattern, I just have a file list to delete). Some of those files may not exist - I need to verify that.. that all files on my list WON'T be in the filesystem. Looping through the file list and doing `rm -f $file` without checking if the file exists - Is that the fastest way ? Or it will be faster to check if each file exists before trying to delete it ?09:09
{C9}t00lsh3dIt was down for me at first ?09:09
visual1cemaybe the ppa is no more... im trying to add ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable09:09
ruanvisual1ce: it isnt09:09
ruan!ff409:09
ubottuFirefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox09:09
Guest82426zer0s, i d prefer avoiding modifying those files: otherwise i would not choose ubuntu as a distro.09:10
ruanmy ppa is: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu09:10
Guest82426i know it s possible theoretically, i did it a long time ago: and it was painful.09:10
Guest82426those times wifi was still obscure09:10
Guest82426zer0s, so i d prefer avoiding this.09:10
zer0si assume you're desperate?09:10
Guest82426there must be a way: can  t we find the conf file where the password is stored and don t give read access to it?09:10
ruanwhy not use wicd and remove default network manager?09:10
llutz_Bartzy: cat file|xargs rm -f09:10
brontosaurusrex_is ff 4 any faster that 3.x series?09:11
ruanbrontosaurusrex_: yes09:11
ohsixlawl @ removing something that gets millions of eyes for something that doesn't09:11
brontosaurusrex_especially startup09:11
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visual1cethx ruan - that worked09:11
Guest82426oh, by the way, the touchpad is not working well: two finger is not supported at all, it messes everyting09:11
visual1cebye for now09:11
Bartzyllutz_: Yep - I know how to do it, I'm asking if it's faster to check if the file exists first before executing rm -f on it09:12
llutz_Bartzy: unlikely09:12
ruani remember some linux distro was on our school computers, though all i remember was a transparent 'widget' which showed the time09:13
ohsixGuest82426: you should state all that you want to do, from what i've read of the backlog network-manager can do it fine09:13
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Bartzyllutz_: Thanks, appreciated.09:14
ruanmost definitely not gnome09:14
RahulNMHow can I reset my server's root password?09:14
ohsixGuest82426: for connections that aren't "system connections" the password is stored in the users keyring09:15
ohsixGuest82426: thankfully theres a checkbox to make it one automatically (as a bonus it'll get you on your wifi before you login) the file is managed for you as well, permissions and stuff09:16
ohsixas to permissions: # ls -al /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/HOME09:16
ohsix-rw------- 1 root root 350 2011-02-09 17:35 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/HOME09:16
ohsixfeel free to ask me personally about anything else09:17
ruanis there a way to get fullscreen console to censor my password when i type it?09:21
ohsixruan: what fullscreen console? one of the ttys?09:21
SikOK, so: installed Ubuntu through the minimal installer (took the minimal CD ISO and made it run on an USB), and it goes all fine... yet I go boot from hard disk, and it doesn't get past a blinking cursor. Huh, what? (and ctrl+alt+del reboots, so I guess the BIOS interrupts are still in effect)09:21
ruanohsix: ctrl alt f109:21
ohsixruan: and what do you mean censor, it's getty and has configuration, but i don't know if it'll do what you want; it doesn't sho wanything here09:21
llutz_ruan: tty login won't show password here at all by default, not even asterisks09:22
ohsixdid you change your terminal type in your login scripts?09:22
ruannope09:22
ruansomehow it shows the password when i type it09:22
ohsixif you did, the termattr to change the mode might be broken09:22
ohsixwhat's $TERM?09:22
ohsixsomething unknowningly might have changed it09:22
ruanxterm09:22
ohsixwell there you go09:22
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FloodBot3!netsplit09:23
ruanwhat's it meant to be?09:23
ruandid ubottu have a netsplit?09:23
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:23
ohsixsomething changed it in the wrong place, or without checking if it was a real tty09:23
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ohsixruan: "linux", check all your profile & login scripts for garbage09:23
ohsixdon't just set it back09:24
ruanok09:24
offsenseanyone knows to install fortinet ssl vpn client in ubuntu?09:24
ruanodd09:24
ohsixruan: best to check /etc/profile & profile.d first; then you'll know if it's from a package immediately09:24
jasonmchristos_How do I save all of the packages I have downloaded from apt repos since I booted this live CD?09:24
ruanwow09:25
ohsixjasonmchristos_: they're in /var/cache/apt/archives09:25
ruanoh..09:25
rmz_rmz_09:25
ruanit shows the password if i typed the password wrong the firs time09:25
ruan>_<09:25
ohsixruan: hah nice, lemme try that09:25
vagvafhow can i list which packages have i installed on top of the default ones?09:25
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{C9}t00lsh3dIs there a way for me to check my Xfce version ?09:25
ruanthat's what i want to get rid of09:25
ohsixruan: it doesn't do that here, are you using mint or something?09:26
llutz_ruan: just type it correct 1st time :)09:26
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ruannope, ubuntu09:26
ruanllutz_: i made a typo the first time :c09:26
ruanhold on, im gonna try again09:26
ohsixruan: well first thing, find out whats changing $TERM09:26
ruangaahh09:26
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ruanit was my 'login' not my password09:26
ohsix.09:27
ruani got confused between the two again09:27
ohsixso you were expecting it to ask for your password repeatedly09:27
ruanyep09:27
ohsixinstead it fails once, asks for user and pass again09:27
llutz_try reading the screens output09:27
ruanyeah i failed at reading09:27
ohsixk, not a bad mistake to make ;]09:27
ohsixmost people might, but it's done that way; and with the delay in order not to leak any information about whether the login name was valid, or any other information09:28
ruanyea09:28
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ohsixruan: do you use wicd? did you know about network-managers system-connections capability09:29
ohsixllutz_: ^ you too09:29
visual1cehi09:29
visual1celibreoffice ppa?09:29
ruanhavent used wicd or network manager09:29
llutz_ohsix: no/yes09:29
ruansince im on ethernet09:29
ohsixalrighty09:29
visual1cealso i have no firefox apparmor profile09:29
visual1ceis there a ppa bot?09:30
ohsixwell please dont' suggest using anything that needs to be installed over whats there already, that's whats supported09:30
jasonmchristos_ohsix, so how do i tell the next boot to load them ?09:30
visual1ce!ppa libreoffice09:30
ruanppa isnt a command :P09:30
visual1ceruan you know what i need :P09:30
ruan!google ppa libreoffice09:30
ubottuI have no google command, use http://www.google.com/09:30
ohsixjasonmchristos_: well for a live cd you'll need to do it every time ... for an install they're just cached packages, after they're installed you don't need them anymore09:30
llutz_ohsix: so is ifupdown/wpa_supplicant ;)09:30
ohsixllutz_: you know what i mean09:31
ruanvisual1ce: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-gets-3-3-0-stable-version-released-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html09:31
ruanvisual1ce: old guide, newer ppa09:31
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visual1ceya - im getting old ppas too09:32
visual1ceis there a "ppa list"?09:32
ohsixit goes without saying that if you think network-manager sucks, or you don't like the name; or whatever you can think of, it's not on topic to carry on like that, people are here to solve the problems with their most immediate tools, manual configuration or obfuscation of their installed files and configuration is a last resort09:32
llutz_ohsix: yep and i still won't agree. usually there is more than one way to get things working, thats how unix is.09:32
ohsixvisual1ce: well they're all on launchpad, so if you're searching them start there09:32
visual1ceactually that ppa looks good09:33
ohsixllutz_: that's a red herring, it's not about what can get it done, it's about supporting the one people use and will change to fit the user09:33
visual1cethx ruan and ohsix09:33
ohsixvisual1ce: np09:33
visual1cealso, i don't think i have a firefox apparmor profile - isn't that a bit strange? i installed apparmor-profiles09:33
ohsixllutz_: if it were about getting things done most directly, driven by opinion; it would be practical to mention windows very often, but that isn't the point of this channel09:33
llutz_ohsix: nonsense09:34
xwx09:34
xwx新手请教个问题09:34
ohsixvisual1ce: i don't see one either; i'm on natty though, it's just not loaded09:34
cynicaloptimistCan anyone help me recover some space on my drive? I deleted files in my file manager (pcManFM) and that program doesn't have a recycle-bin. The files are gone, supposedly fully deleted, but it hasn't freed-up any space on my harddisk at all.09:34
ohsixvisual1ce: aa-status will list the active & enforced profiles09:34
jasonmchristos_ohsix, What I meant to ask is after I save the cache how do i tell the live cd to install them?09:35
ohsixllutz_: if you've missed the point that much you might not proffer any advice and we'd all be better off09:35
xwxabout irc09:35
ohsixjasonmchristos_: well you can copy them back and use dpkg -i, or copy them back and reproduce the steps you use to install the software the packages were fetched for09:36
tsimpson!cn | xwx09:36
ubottuxwx: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk09:36
ohsixjasonmchristos_: dpkg -i will be messy if there are a lot of packages, the latter is best09:36
jasonmchristos_well dpkg -i is what yum does after it fetches them correct? ohsix09:37
ohsixjasonmchristos_: if you use software-center it will automatically enable the universe repos and other things that'd need to be done if you did it the other way09:37
ohsixyum? rh09:37
visual1cethx ohsix09:38
visual1cebye again09:38
ohsixjasonmchristos_: apt you mean?09:38
llutz_ohsix: feel free to ignore me if you don't like my way of support or correct me if i'm wrong or breaking the guidelines09:38
malvincan some one help me..? because im a beginner and i have some big problems09:38
xwxoh thanks09:39
ohsixllutz_: i will correct you; why do you think i spoke up? telling someone to install other software when the default software will do as they ask is not a good idea09:39
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llutz_ohsix: which i have done when?09:40
pipoguys, i want to modify grub: i d want to make it HIDDEN and also take off some lines of it09:40
ohsixllutz_: they might take it and run with it and tell other people to use less well supported software, that all comes back to people that support ubuntu when it goes wrong09:40
SikDoes anybody know why if Ubuntu installs correctly, then when I try to boot from hard disk the computer hangs at a blinking cursor?09:40
pipoas there are no lines at all in /etc/Default/grub, ,.... how can i do it?09:40
ohsixllutz_: you setup a strawman with ifupdown & /etc/networking, and you know it09:40
pipo(i mean no entries i could comment)09:40
jasonmchristos_ohsix, the point is i do not want to have to redownload them09:41
pipo(i d like to comment the memtest and the recovery modes, only leaving the windows 7 and the ubuntu present kernel)09:41
ohsixSik: are you using an ati or nvidia card? the drivers installed might not do kms, or the login manager isn't able to restart09:41
llutz_ohsix: no its a well known way to configure things, with software being already installed. and now pls drop it09:41
ohsixjasonmchristos_: i know, i've done the same myself09:41
Sikohsix: S3 Chrome09:42
jasonmchristos_ohsix, so i need to use dpkg -i ?09:42
ohsixllutz_: you're still reading past what i'm saying, there is a preferred and default tool for things to be done, if it's ubuntu-server you are right, but in practice it rarely is09:42
SikIn any case, ctrl+alt+del still reboots, so the BIOS interrupts are still in effect... which means it's failing EARLY09:42
ohsixjasonmchristos_: it's ugly, it's easier to copy the files to the cache, then just go through the motions installing the software again that used those packages, it will use them automatically09:42
ohsixSik: that might be a real problem09:42
ohsixSik: s3 devices are kind of a tough thing in linux09:43
Sikohsix: any idea of what might be causing it? It literally hangs before it even boots :|09:43
jasonmchristos_ohsix, oh i see what you are saying now09:43
ohsixSik: ok, do you get a grub menu to pick the boot label?09:43
SikNo09:44
SikIt's the only OS in the hard disk, if that helps09:44
SikI made a clean install wiping everything on it09:44
ohsixhmm09:44
ohsixif you boot with a livecd can you mount the hard drive it installed to?09:44
SikYes09:44
SikMounted =P09:45
ohsixis /boot/grub there with all its files? also, what filesystem are you using for /09:45
habananyon ubuntu beta :)09:45
SikGimme a sec09:45
SikOK, definitely /boot/grub has all its files09:45
ohsixhabanany: chances are if you have a question you'll need to ask in #ubuntu+109:46
SikAlso, whatever the minimal CD installer formats it to (ext2? ext4? lemme check)09:46
habananysmooth09:46
n8w..09:46
n8whey09:46
habananylove the sidebar09:46
n8whave u guys tried gnome 3 on ubuntu 10.10?09:46
Sikohsix: ext409:46
ohsixSik: if you hold shift when it boots does it show a grub menu?09:47
SikUm, will try that09:47
SikBRB09:47
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jasonmchristos_ohsix, when you use su to run as another user where does it store that bash_history? or does it?09:49
jasonmchristos_ohsix, when you use su to run bash as another user where does it store that bash_history? or does it?09:49
shiftingcontroljasonmchristos:after logging in as su give cat ~/.bash_history ,it will reveal all the things which yu did as root09:50
ohsixjasonmchristos_: wherever $HOME is, if you use a login shell it should be changed to /root iirc, but if you don't it just appends it to the local one09:50
shiftingcontroljasonmchristos:it stores in /root09:50
ohsixyou can also do sudo echo $HOME09:50
ohsixor not, thats a fun one to quote09:51
ohsixsudo sh -c 'echo $HOME'09:51
ohsixi've got to get back to what i was doing before i saw such horrid advice being given here ;]09:52
jiltdilany channel for shell-script please tell ?09:52
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llutz_jiltdil: #bash09:52
ohsix(if that is your shell)09:52
jiltdilllutz_:thanx09:52
ohsixthe bash man page is quite huge and searchable as well09:52
cynicaloptimistCan anyone help me recover some space on my drive? I deleted files in my file manager (pcManFM) and that program doesn't have a recycle-bin. The files are gone, supposedly fully deleted, but it hasn't freed-up any space on my harddisk at all.09:53
jasonmchristos_i cant acess /root09:53
jasonmchristos_i su to ubuntu09:53
jasonmchristos_and the commands arent in the /home/ubuntu/.bash_history09:54
ohsixjasonmchristos_: they wont be until the shell exits09:54
jasonmchristos_i guess it doesnt store them in either when you su to another user09:54
ohsixuntil it does they're stored in memory09:54
jasonmchristos_oh oh ok exit the shell first09:54
cynicaloptimistOh, ignore me. Stupid, stupid PcManFm. It did stick the files in the deleted files folder, just doesn't have any option for displaying that folder, or deleting it's contents pemanently. Sigh09:54
ohsixif they were written to the file immediately people could spy on commands as they were executed ;]09:54
shiftingcontroljasonmchristos:/root/.bash_history where all root 's bash history lies09:55
ohsixthat is to say, the file can't normally be read by anyone but the owner unless theres a severe cockup, but if a server were hacked it'd be salt in the wound09:56
habananythanks ohsix09:57
jasonmchristos_ok so now can i just append .sh to the history and it will run all of the commands over again when i call it09:57
ohsixbbl09:58
ohsixjasonmchristos_: no, you need to add #!/bin/bash at the top09:58
llutz_jasonmchristos_: no need to append an extension09:58
Sikohsix: tried what you told me to do, no GRUB menu (or anything for that matter)09:58
ohsixjasonmchristos_: not a great idea though; even if you edit stuff out, you should do a normal install to removable media or something09:58
Sikohsix: also tried using doing it wiht the LiveCD and the LiveUSB, just to make sure I was doing it right (GRUB command line appears on those)09:58
habananyrunning on 11.04 smooth :)09:59
Brwahi09:59
Sonjahalp. my mouse disappeared.09:59
r_a_veni might have reached the wrong room09:59
Sonjai have to resort to keyboard commands09:59
ohsixSik: well, if it doesn't show grub theres a problem with it; i don't have the time at the moment to troubleshoot what, i _think_ that can happen when the bios map at install time for the drive is wrong09:59
Brwais there a program like notepad++  ,supported with changing direction to RTL ?10:00
ohsixbbl!10:00
jasonmchristos_ok thanks for the help10:00
SikSo, does anybody here know how to get GRUB get a proper map of the partitions? >_>10:00
SonjaBrwa: i love notepad++!! i use gedit... thre´s lots of extensions to pimp it up10:00
Sonja¨pimp my gedit´10:00
ohsixBrwa: there is gedit, and anything gtk supports ime's for rtl languages, and you can even switch it for ones that don't10:00
Sonjamight want to check out Cream too10:00
Brwai have tried Gedit10:00
Sonjai don´t like out of box gedit, but it´s easy to customize gedit for all the extra features you want in it.10:01
BrwaGedit only support RLM not RTL10:01
Sonjaif you browse the web for gedit addons10:01
ohsixSik: i didn't intend for you to ask directly, merely to give you a lead; you'll probably need to google around :\ (people here are good at fixing small simple things, that sort of problem isn't)10:01
Sonjartl = right to left? (arabic, hebrew, etc.) ?10:01
Brwayes10:01
ohsixBrwa: right click and pick insert unicode control character10:02
Sonjabrwa: vim is a much more mature linux text editor, but the learning curve is higher. check out Cream as a more accessible front-end for vi10:02
Brwai know that but its not RTL10:02
ohsix... it is10:02
ohsixafter that entering text is going to need an IME10:02
antonpiatekAnyone heard of issues with dbus not starting in natty? My boot hangs because dbus appears not to have started10:02
ruan!natty10:03
ubottuNatty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.10:03
Sonjai lost the mouse in natty10:03
ohsixso install arabic or whatever with the language options and use the ime10:03
SonjaBrwa:  is it for arabic or hebrew specifically?10:03
Brwaits for kurdish actually10:03
Sonjawow cool10:03
Sonjaarabic script then, i guess. even if not arabic language.10:04
BrwaI'm Translating phpBB3 into kurdish ,so i need a program support RTL direction just like notepad++10:04
Sonjayou might want to try asking in an arabic-language linux/ubuntu forum10:04
Sonjaif you know arabic10:04
Sonjapeople who don´t use rtl languages everyday prolly don´t have the same needs you do10:05
Brwathats right10:05
BrwaIm trying Cream ,let's see10:05
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Sonjafor all the advanced features in cream, you basically need to learn vi/vim10:06
Sonjabut for the basic everyday stuff, cream adds a more modern layer with all the ¨modern´ keyboard shortcuts and user experience most people have come to expect10:07
Sonjavi/vim is oldskool :)10:07
visual1cehi again10:08
pipoguys, i d like to comment the memtest and the recovery modes, only leaving the windows 7 and the ubuntu present kernel in the grub menu, but how?10:08
jasonmchristos_higen10:08
llutz_pipo: /etc/default/grub should have lines to change for that10:09
visual1ceanyone here running ff 4? the default apparmor profile does not allow /usr/lib/firefox-4.0/firefox.sh10:09
llutz_pipo: edit it and run "sudo update-grub" then10:09
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qwertyhi there, how can i list packages thats depends on some package ?10:13
jpdsqwerty: apt-cache rdepends <package>10:13
qwertywhat about installed packages ?10:14
Sean____hello, I've tried ubuntu 11.4 and my mouse does not work on it.10:15
Sean____absolutely no response when using it10:15
Sean____tried using a corded mouse, same issue.10:15
llutz_!11.04 | Sean____10:15
ubottuSean____: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.10:15
Sean____thanks ubottu10:15
pipollutz_, well, there are no entries in it,... so i can t comment them10:16
pipollutz_, this file only has default options, can t see the menu entries as before10:16
llutz_pipo there is at least GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY="true"10:16
qwertyjpds, what about installed packages ?10:16
pipollutz_, ok, but for the other kernels, memtest,etc?10:17
mag1cI am having yo trouble with RTL8111D, can anybody recommend a cheap nic that will work out of the box with all ubuntu versions?10:17
llutz_pipo: it also should contain a line with MEMTEST too10:17
daniel_I think he's indifferent ;)10:18
llutz_pipo: remove old kernels if you don't need them. you'd also try to use a custom grub-config file, there should be a sample in the wiki (i don't have www here atm, can't provide you with a link)10:19
pipollutz_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1502793.html10:19
pipothank you10:19
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pipohttp://ubuntu-install.blogspot.com/2009/11/grub2-title-tweaks.html10:20
Kevin1aI realize it's not supported by Cannonical, but is there a medibuntu repository for 11.04b1 Natty Narwahl yet?10:22
fatbrain_hi, I have a file with paths to zip files, is there a way I could batch-unzip those into a folder using 7z? :S10:22
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pipohttp://ubuntu-install.blogspot.com/2009/11/grub2-title-tweaks.html  > llutz: this can t be real... so complicated! why did they do this!?10:23
fatbrainKevin1a: what do you need medibuntu repo for? (curious)10:23
mag1cI am having yo trouble with RTL8111D, can anybody recommend a cheap nic that will work out of the box with all ubuntu versions?10:24
llutz_pipo: i don't know what grub2-dev smoke....10:24
Kevin1a@fatbrain win32codecs, I realize they aren't free, but I have some media from my pre linux days that is still encoded in restricted formats10:24
loquaceHello10:25
pipollutz_, i succesfully removed the memtest executable  script and the recovery ones, this should leave one kernel, and windows vista (??????)   and windows seven10:25
fatbrainKevin1a: like video and what not?10:25
gedOHello10:26
gedOIS there any book which writes about Windows VS Ubuntu or Windows vs Linux10:26
Kevin1afatbrain: mostly music, though there are probably some video files in there too, yes10:26
Kevin1aged0: you will find the most up to date info on the web.  I recommend just running a search, books tend to be out of date by the time they are published10:27
llutz_pipo: doesnt W7 use 2 partitions (1 100mb + 1 real system-partition)? seems one is found/listed as vista. idk, i don't use it10:27
fatbrainKevin1a: I use VLC for all my video/audio files. But that's just me :O10:28
Kevin1afatbrain: it's great for video, I agree, but I prefer rythmbox for my music, though I'm contemplating giving amorok a try.  I don't want to clutter up the channel with chatter because it is a support channel, so if anyone can tell me if there is a Medibuntu repo for Natty, that would be very helpful10:30
llutz_Kevin1a: why don't you just check medibuntu.org?10:31
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catphishi am having a problem where ssh appears to be trying to start before network initialization has finished10:31
catphishcan anyone suggest why it would be doing that?10:32
gedOKavinla: Thx, I will look for it10:32
Kevin1allutz: I did.  There isn't anything listed, but since it's in beta, I wouldn't necessarily expect it to be listed on the frontpage.  Considering the release is only a little ways out, I assume there is something out there, I just need to know how to access it.10:32
exclusive37hi10:35
llutz_catphish: try to change /etc/init/ssh.conf: start on (filesystem and started network)10:35
catphishllutz_: i was just looking at that10:35
catphishthanks10:35
exclusive37anyone to help me pls10:35
Kevin1aged0: Is there any particular aspect of comparability you are interested in?10:36
llutz_Kevin1a: btw: natty-support in #ubuntu+1, mabye ppl there know more10:36
exclusive37how can i hide window border on fx4?10:37
Kevin1a@llutz: thanks, I'll check over there, that's helpful10:37
exclusive37any ubuntu geeks help me?10:38
Kevin1a@exclusive37: State your question10:39
epzil0nwhat's your problem exclusive37?10:39
exclusive37on fx4 with 'tabs on top' feature i want to hide window border?10:39
FloodBot2!netsplit10:40
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit10:40
chewyguys, i m using 10.10 netbook remix. unity is cool! but where do i change themes and backgrounds?¿10:41
epzil0n@exclusive37, are you talking about compiz?10:42
exclusive37kevinla n epzilon, got my ques?10:42
epzil0njepp exclusive37 but i'm not into compiz stuff.. sry10:42
linusoleanderI'm trying to run a script, but get this error.10:42
linusoleanderIt works under OS X10:42
linusoleanderusr/bin/env: ruby -w: No such file or directory10:43
exclusive37maybe i dont know.ijust dont wanna see window border on top fx410:43
linusoleanderAnyone knows what the problem may be?10:43
Kevin1a@exclusive I got it, what do you mean by window border?  Are you saying you want to lose the title bar?  Try toggling fullscreen with F1110:43
llutz_linusoleander: you have ruby installed?10:43
epzil0nexclusive37: ok, should not be that hard10:43
exclusive37window border occupies extra space on top of fx410:43
linusoleanderllutz_: Yes10:43
exclusive37so how?10:44
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Kevin1a@exclusive hit the F11 key and tell me if it fixes your problem10:44
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linusoleanderAnyone got an idea?10:45
foo-nixI installed lucene-core.jar in /usr/share/java , but when I import stuff from org.apache.lucene.*  java wont find it. When I download the jar from the site and include it with the -cp option, it will. Why wont it find the package when it is installed using apt-get ?10:45
catphishwhat do those floodbots do?10:45
Kevin1a@catphish apparently nothing :D10:45
iqpilinusoleander: whats your problem?10:45
catphishare they just supposed to silence the join / split messages10:46
epzil0ncatphish: prevent flooding maybe :P10:46
exclusive37thats ok but i wanna fix that settingson it10:46
catphishthey fail :)10:46
epzil0nhehe10:46
linusoleanderiqpi: I'm getting this error when trying to run a script that works under OS X.10:46
linusoleanderusr/bin/env: ruby -w: No such file or directory10:46
iqpilinusoleander: put the / before usr10:47
linusoleanderiqpi: My IRC removes the line when adding the slash :)10:47
linusoleander*IRC client10:47
exclusive37cscm window settings i ll try some modifications10:47
Pumpkin-_linusoleander: in that case, its almost certainly that you need to install ruby10:47
linusoleanderiqpi: The slash exists in the file10:48
catphishlinusoleander: maybe osx doesn't have /usr/bin/env10:48
chalcednydo i need to do something if i want to run znc on my ubuntu 10.04 box for other computers on my lan, either wired or wifi?10:48
Kevin1a@exculsive37, you mean have it start like that all the time?  I'm not sure if that's possible.  If you use a window decorator like Emerald, you can use a theme with really thin boarders.  If you know the max/min/close keyboard shortcuts, it'll save you a few pixels of space10:48
iqpilinusoleander: oh, then look if you have installed env, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install env10:48
linusoleanderYes, i've installed Ruby, and it works in Os X10:48
chewyguys, anyone knows the keyboard shortcut for expo plugin in unity netbook remix?10:48
catphishhmm10:48
catphishthat should work10:48
chewyand how do i change background and theme?10:48
FilopeHi !!! How can I install Java JRE 1.5 for Ubuntu Lucid?10:49
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Kevin1a@exclusive37 which window decorator are you using, you should be able to see it in CCSM under "window decorations"10:49
llutz_chalcedny: just specify the port znc listens and create your user. configure your irc-clients accordingly10:49
vlt_____1Hello. I installed hugin on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but when I start it I get a "memory access error" after closing the tip of the day popup. How to make it work?10:49
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exclusive37compiz10:50
exclusive37i think10:50
chalcednyllutz_, mmm i set it up as 127.0.0.1/6697 - but now i need to connect to it from the laptop too.. and it won't.10:50
llutz_chalcedny: 127.0.0.1 is localhost just use "6667"10:50
Filopellutz_: !10:51
chalcednyllutz_, would that make a difference if the laptop knows it's ssl?10:51
llutz_chalcedny: to use ssl, you need to add a "+" in front of the port, like: Listener4    = +666710:52
exclusive37thanx10:52
alketHi, How do you submit a commercial gamte to Ubuntu Software Center ?10:52
llutz_chalcedny: and your irc-client has to be configured to use ssl10:52
chalcednyllutz_, hmmmmmmmmm then how come it works from the computer it's on?10:52
chalcednyxchat does do ssl you just tick the box10:52
lzdzhywhat is  netbook remix10:52
llutz_chalcedny: are you sure it uses ssl?10:52
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chalcednyllutz_, do i need to have it as 192.168.1.1 ?10:53
llutz_chalcedny: nop10:53
llutz_chalcedny: just specifying a port makes it listening on all devices10:54
llutz_chalcedny: killall -HUP znc after changing the config10:54
chalcednyllutz_, so maybe i need to edit it to have the + because that is the ssl port10:54
chalcednyllutz_, i was told i can /znc rehash10:55
FilopeHi !!! How can I install Java JRE 1.5 for Ubuntu Lucid?10:55
Kevin1a@exclusive37 the only solution I can offer you is to use a different window decorator within compiz to get a theme with very thin boarders.  I recommend emerald.  Once you add the packages and the theme you want, you'll have too replace the line in CCSM>>Window Decorations with "emerald --replace" or something like that.  It takes a little research and work, so if you go that route, I just recommend running a web search for instructions.  Shor10:56
Kevin1at of that, you only have a month until 11.04 comes out, and unity moves the title bar into the taskbar at the top of the page.10:56
llutz_chalcedny: if you're already connected, yes10:56
chalcednyllutz_, i like how it works i just want to get my laptop connecting to it10:57
llutz_chalcedny: theres a configuration-howto in the wiki on znc.in10:57
chalcednyllutz_, ok thanks a lot!10:57
Filopellutz_:  only you can help me in that situation10:59
llutz_!info sun-java5-jre lucid11:00
ubottuPackage sun-java5-jre does not exist in lucid11:00
Filope:'(11:00
llutz_Filope: you need to find a repo holding java511:01
linusoleanderIf I start a deamon on a server and log out, will the deamon still be alive?11:01
Filopeyes11:01
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llutz_linusoleander: depends on the daemon and how you start it, usually: yes11:02
BajKAny ideas why Flash is constantly crashing in Chromium? Whenever I open a page that contains any flash element, "The following plugin crashed: Shockwafe Flash"11:02
BajKit works fine in FF and Chromium does this for a few days11:02
linusoleanderllutz_:  I'll give it a try11:02
ruanflash works fine here11:04
ruanhavent tested flash in chromium though, only java11:04
JenkHow do I delete all png files in a series of folders which are all contained in one folder ? Is there a command that I can use ?11:07
tsimpsonJenk: "find /some/folder -name '*.png' -exec rm {} +" will delete all .png files it finds under "/some/folder" and sub-directories11:08
llutz_Jenk: find dir/ -type f -iname *.png -exec rm {} +11:08
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Jenktsimpson, llutz_ Thanks a million ! That solved it ! Where do I learn these skills ?11:11
tsimpsonexperience (and "man find") ;)11:11
Jenktsimpson, :) I thought that needed some bash skills...11:13
ruanbash is awesome11:13
tsimpsonyou probably could do it in pure bash script, but why bother if you have "find"11:13
llutz_ruan: so you never used zsh :)11:13
Jenktsimpson, I'll keep that in mind !11:14
llutz_Jenk: imho there are a few tools one definetly should know: find, grep, awk, sed11:15
Traineesysadminhey guys im using ubuntu server edition with no gui, im using the VI text editor but it doesnt function right? insert is all wrong and i can some times not delete and it types differant letters some times? its wierd11:15
Jenkllutz_, K, and all you use to learn them are the manual pages ?11:16
Pumpkin-_Traineesysadmin: do you know how to use vi, and you know it isn't working right. Or do you not know how to use vi ?11:16
llutz_Jenk: as a start. google for more advanced use ;)11:16
TraineesysadminPumpkin-_: i assume i know how to use it11:16
Jenkllutz_, Allright ! =]11:17
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asadeddinhey all... I m having trouble connecting my desktop machine to the internet. I m at the office, and all the computers are able to connect to the intenet, so is my other ubuntu machine11:22
asadeddinmy machine can see the network and can browse it, but it can't actually surf the net11:23
asadeddinany help?11:23
ruanasadeddin: have you tried wicd?11:23
asadeddinwicd? isnt that for wireless?11:23
asadeddini m desktoping it11:23
ruan!info wicd11:23
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.0+ds1-5 (maverick), package size 40 kB, installed size 88 kB11:23
ruanw & wl11:23
asadeddinso wicd may solve the problem?11:24
asadeddinthe thing i dont udnerstand why i have to use wicd, because it's clearly an issue with settings11:24
ruanits possible11:24
ruani mean its just worth a try11:24
asadeddini can even host www.google.com11:25
asadeddinbut it doesnt ping11:25
ruanhmm11:25
asadeddinany ideas? i tried looking at firefox settings but they're all good. my IP and DNS settigns seem to be right11:25
asadeddini even checked if the ethernet cable was bust, but it worked on my Ubuntu laptop11:26
asadeddini dont thnik it's the router11:26
Pumpkin-asadeddin: smells a lot like a lack of default route. Checked for that ?11:26
asadeddindefault DNS?11:26
asadeddindefault route11:26
asadeddinit matches the one on my ubuntu laptop11:27
asadeddinthis is what is annoying11:27
thevishyhow do I remove softwares I dont need11:27
ruanthevishy: what don't you need? it's a user decision11:27
Pumpkin-asadeddin: does "netstat -nr" have a line that starts 0.0.0.0 ?11:27
rigvedthevishy: sudo apt-get autoremove  <--- handle with care. you have been warned11:27
thevishyI mean so I need to do each software manually ?11:28
thevishyIs there a way to select some 10 packages and remove it11:28
ruanthevishy: with synaptic11:28
ruanthevishy: yes11:28
asadeddinyeah11:28
thevishyright synaptic11:28
asadeddindestination 0.0.0.0 is the last one11:28
thevishyWhat about removing this Kubuntu-desktop thing11:28
thevishyI know its a meta package , now I need to remove everything11:28
ruanthevishy: remove a core kde lib and then autoremove11:29
thevishyhow do I remove a core kde lib ?11:29
Pumpkin-asadeddin: can you ping the gateway address for that (from both the faulty machine and a working one) ?11:29
ruanlibqt4-script for example11:29
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ruanthevishy: wait..11:29
ndxtgls -l gives this results "drwxrws---   7 22168   sgc  512 Apr  3 10:13 sgc.git" <---- does anyone know what "s" stands for in the permission?11:29
ruanthevishy: search 'KDE' in synaptic11:29
ruanthevishy: then select all and remove/purge11:29
asadeddinyeah can ping11:30
asadeddinfrom the broken one11:30
thevishyright thanks11:30
alex88ndxtg: http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml section 6.211:30
thevishyruan, i Hope it oesnt end me witha  bothched gnome menu ?11:31
asadeddinwhat do u mean by gateway address? Default route?11:31
ohsixderp11:31
ohsixndxtg: sticky11:31
ohsixndxtg: nevermind, sticky is t, thats sgid, which has special meaning for directories (but i don't remember what they are)11:32
ohsixndxtg: theres a rundown on them in "man chmod"11:33
totohi guys,11:33
ljsoftnethello toto11:34
alex88ndxtg: if someone will run it, it will be run as the group that owns the file11:34
ruanthevishy: gnome doesn't need kde libs11:34
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thevishyI mean the Menu11:34
ruanthevishy: my menu works after removing kde11:34
ndxtgthanks alex8811:34
thevishyMenu works but would it still display the kde apps11:34
ruanthevishy: no11:34
thevishythanks11:34
ruanthevishy: if its removed properly, it will disappear from menu11:34
ruanthevishy: besides, there's always the main menu editor11:34
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thevishyyes11:34
totoi am trying to set wifi for a user, without him to be able to see the password11:34
thevishyin synaptic what should I chose ruan11:34
ruanthevishy: kde libs11:34
thevishyI searched for kde and lists lot of things11:34
ruanthevishy: anything with kde in the name, sort by installed11:34
alex88asadeddin: what's the problem?11:34
totoi am trying to set wifi for a user, without him to be able to see the password11:34
thevishyis there a single package I can remove11:34
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ndxtgohsix: got it, np ty :D11:34
Guest91648cause right clicking on properties, one gets the password, and i don t want the user to see it. just use THIS computer with wifi connection11:35
ruanGuest91648: add it to system connections. someone described it earlier11:35
ohsixthat was me11:35
ljsoftnetGuest91648 i dont think users who wants to connect to your router, can see the password11:35
alex88ndxtg: was that linkcorrect?11:35
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ohsixGuest91648: click on the checkbox at the bottom, "Available to all users"11:36
ndxtgalex88: yea, but i didnt understand the article so... better live it there, I guess my git repo problem is not caused by that11:36
thevishyI installed this beautiful Macubuntu theme11:36
alex88ndxtg: don't think so11:36
JohnHeikkilaHeyy, if I want to install Ubuntu (11) on an external HDD, but keep the data that are inside still available, do I just install it from a live-cd and modify some partitions?11:36
ohsixGuest91648: admittedly the things i mentioned are all side effects of a checkbox that doesn't seem like it would do that; but that's what it does :D (it also makes it available to everyone, and will bring up the connection before login, since the information to connect need not be in the user keyring)11:36
Guest91648ohsix, i don t get your point11:37
ohsixi wasn't making a point11:37
ohsixi was alliterating about what i said earlier11:37
alex88JohnHeikkila: yup, resize the old one and install in other..11:37
Bartzyrsync  -avzhR --del --no-r --dirs /home/user/* rsync://remote_server/root11:37
BartzyThis rsync command gives me "no such file or directory", /home/user/ is indeed empty. But why it gives me that error and not just exit ?11:37
JohnHeikkilaalex88: Okay. What if later on, I want to delete Ubuntu from it? Will I be facing trouble deleting it?11:38
Guest91648ohsix, i did it11:38
Guest91648you mean it s OK now?11:38
Guest91648let me try (log out) and log in as a new user :)11:38
ohsixBartzy: try ls /home/user/*, the shell expands it to nothing, and rsync has no way of knowing that, to rsync it looks like you passed "--dirs rsync://rem..."11:38
alex88JohnHeikkila: nope..you can just restart with live-cd, delete ubuntu partition and then resize the old one to full hdd11:39
lvhHi!11:39
JohnHeikkilaalex88: Okay, thanks.11:39
alex88JohnHeikkila: np :)11:39
Bartzyohsix: So I need to use /home/user/ instead ?11:39
lvhIs there something available in Ubuntu 10.10 that has working MSN webcam support?11:39
JohnHeikkilaalex88: BTW, is there some sort of problem with Startup disk creator, for i can't format a USB stick with it O.o11:39
ohsixBartzy: well, with "--no-r" it isn't going to do much given a directory11:40
ljsoftnetlvh you dont like skype or google talk?11:40
mrstockshello, i just realised i got my partioning wrong, my /boot is 10mo not 100mo, can i resize it effortly?11:40
zhangchao?11:40
alex88JohnHeikkila: try unetbootin11:40
JohnHeikkilaokay11:40
zhangchao 有人吗,11:40
zhangchao新手,11:40
zhangchao我是11:40
FloodBot2zhangchao: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:40
ohsixJohnHeikkila: it needs to be able to unmount it first, if you tell it to format the drive it will do that for you11:40
fi8er1!register11:40
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode11:40
ohsix!cn | zhangchao11:41
ubottuzhangchao: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk11:41
zhangchao这个怎么用,是什么意思11:41
itali-chanlol zhangchao  xD11:41
itali-chante estas burlando de nosotros xd?11:41
xqvp43ubottu11:41
Traineesysadminhow can i change my screen res to 1024x768 on ubuntu server edition (no gui)11:41
zhangchaowhat11:42
ruanchanging res in console?11:42
ruan!cn11:42
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk11:42
Traineesysadminyea11:42
zhangchaomy god11:42
xqvp43zhangchao, 你输入 /join #ubuntu-cn11:42
Bartzyohsix: Why ?11:42
ohsixTraineesysadmin: you can set a resolution on the kernel command line, theres also a command to do it while its running; but i forget the name, if all you want is more lines you can use the console tools to set the number of rows and forget about video modes, you can also change the font if you want more still11:42
kmieciuhej11:42
ohsixBartzy: it's in the manual11:42
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Traineesysadminohsix: thanks11:42
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Bartzyohsix: --no-r is just don't send relative paths11:43
paddi23hi all11:43
kmieciumozektos podac palska strone linux ubuntu?11:43
lvhljsoftnet: I use those and like those, but I'm trying to get *MSN* support specifically working now11:43
paddi23I am looking for a channel, that copes with comparing different notebook models. Is there something like that?11:44
ohsixBartzy: that would be --no-R11:44
ruanthere is ##hardware for hardware discussion11:44
alex88paddi23: never heard about that..11:44
ohsixBartzy: little r with abbreviation is recursion11:44
ljsoftnetlvh sorry i dont know any, maybe someone migth know11:44
MaRk-Ilvh:  aMSN or emesene11:44
Bartzyohsix: Oh. So giving rsync a directory won't copy only the files under that directory ?11:45
ohsixBartzy: not as you wrote it, no11:45
rileypam i visible11:45
paddi23alex88, ok. I just need a notebook comparable to the lenovo x301 which is not being produced, any longer.11:45
ljsoftnetpaddi23 try this website www.notebookcheck.net11:45
ohsixlvh: you'll have to use a speciality client for that i think, telepathy might do it though11:46
Bartzyohsix: But I don't want it with -r...11:46
ohsixBartzy: then make your file list with find, rsync can accept lists from stdin11:46
lvhMaRk-I: aMSN doesn't actually work with the latest version of Windows Messenger or Live messenger or whatever it's called these days11:47
Bartzyohsix: Really ? rsync can't just accept a directory and only copy its direct files ?11:47
ohsixBartzy: it probably can be convinced to; but find is really the proper tool to do it11:48
ohsixBartzy: as a bonus, empty output from find will have rsync just exit with nothing to do11:48
MaRk-Ilvh:  then no idea i dont use msn for video... maybe pidgin is working now11:49
bournehey i m using mysql query browser....how to connect to to Mysql server??11:49
ohsixlvh: supporting it is problematic since stuff breaks like every other day :[ though as of late i don't know why there isn't support in the various messengers11:49
Bartzyohsix: find /home/user/ -type f -maxdepth 1 | rsync ....... ?11:50
paddi23ljsoftnet, thank you11:50
ohsixlvh: http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/MSNAudioVideo info on it in telapathy, they really want that stuff to work there so that's where i'd keep my attention11:50
ljsoftnetpaddi23 your welcome11:50
lvhohsix: thanks11:50
dr3mrois there an open source project needs help in python |:)11:51
ohsixlvh: its threadbare but at least shows who you could ask11:51
ohsixlvh: it looks like progress on farsight will land in pidgin too; so they'll both end up working when it works there11:53
ohsixlvh: if you can live with google talk or xmpp(jabber) the protocols for video are wide open and work almost universally11:54
ohsixgoogle talk is jabber so they get to cheat ;]11:54
mylistoI'm trying to find out how to copy some of my pictures from a chip to my laptop..11:54
ohsixlvh: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/vv this page says something for msn video has been released in farsight11:55
mylistomost of the move  except for one folder...I'm getting "Error splicing file: Input/output error"11:55
ohsixlvh: but the page on their wiki is blank/doesn't exist, seems like the definitive way of figuring out if it works is to try empathy or pidgin with msn11:56
ohsix(empathy  is the thing that comes with ubuntu and powers the chat in that little mail widget in the notification area)11:57
hipitihopI'm occasionally seeing  a mission control segfault, What's mission control ? kernel: [451205.225631] mission-control[1420]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000431ee6 sp 00007fff7880be30 error 4 in mission-control-5[400000+4d000]11:58
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ohsixhipitihop: its part of telepathy/empathy; the messenger for ubuntu, oddly enough i was just talking about it :]11:58
sacarlsonhipitihop: what application do you run to get that?11:58
ohsixhipitihop: for future reference, dpkg -S can search packages for things, so you can find out what owns something11:59
ohsixfor example: telepathy-mission-control-5: /usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-511:59
hipitihopohsix, thanks11:59
Bartzyohsix ? :)11:59
rodhashHi guys.. After my ubuntu starts to use SWAP it becomes little slow.. is there any way to improve the performance? Sometimes the SWAP has just 100MB (2GB RAM).. and my ubuntu works slow..11:59
hipitihopsacarlson, meaning ? this was in /var/log/syslog12:00
hipitihopsacarlson, or do you want to know what alerted me12:00
sagacihow do I go about increasing the lines scrolled when I scroll with the middle mouse wheel12:01
hipitihopohsix, so should I be reporting that segfault ?12:01
bournehelp me guys12:01
sacarlsonhipitihop: with segfault I would assume you were running something that crashed and you would see it12:01
ohsixBartzy: well convention is - is stdin when given as a file, but i dont see --files-from= accepting it directly in the manual, i'll have to look and see if it does12:01
hipitihopsacarlson, nope, no ui indication that something has failed in this case12:01
ohsixhipitihop: if you want to report crashes you can enable apport in /etc/default/apport, then it'll pop up when it does crash12:01
ohsixi think mission control crashing is harmless though12:02
ohsixit'll just get restarted12:02
mr_boo_ltprodhash: how big is your swap partition?12:02
ohsixBartzy: doh my eyes, yes it says - will read from stdin with --files-from12:02
NijaboOdd problem - I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a partition, but it can't find my wifi network. It finds other networks in the building but not mine, and I can find my netowk without a hitch on my Windows sytem.12:03
hipitihopsacarlson, I'm actually running HIDS, it alerted me12:03
Kartagis!find nslookup12:04
JohnHeikkilaalex88: Thanks for the help, earlier. Apparently ohsix was right, I had to un-mount it, lol (didn't remember the command xD)12:04
ubottuFile nslookup found in dnsutils, kaptain, manpages-ja, openvas-plugins-dfsg, procmail-lib, rbot, scrollz, zsh, zsh-beta12:04
alex88JohnHeikkila: np :) glad to help12:04
* JohnHeikkila thinks: Karma +112:04
ohsixNijabo: natty support is in #ubuntu+112:04
Nijaboah12:05
ohsixJohnHeikkila: unless you mounted it by hand usb-creator will unmount it when you try and format it12:05
JohnHeikkilaohsix: Nah, just plugged it in and had kubuntu 9.10 installed on it, earlier12:05
ohsixJohnHeikkila: right it's an automount, then usb-creator would have been able to unmount it for formatting ;]12:06
Bartzyohsix: Not working: find /tmp/src/ -maxdepth 1 -type f | rsync --files-from=- /tmp/dst12:06
ohsixBartzy: with files-from i think it expects more than just the source12:07
ohsixso add | paste "dest" in the middle :D12:07
Kartagishow can I force removal of a package?12:07
JohnHeikkilaohsix: Well, yeah. Just umounted sdd1 and I was able to start startup disk creator12:07
Bartzyohsix: Got it: find /tmp/src/ -maxdepth 1 -type f | rsync --no-R --files-from=- / /tmp/dst12:08
ohsixBartzy: hm it's not paste12:08
ohsixBartzy: ok nice12:08
Bartzyohsix: Thanks a lot. really weird that it cannot be done with simple rsync...12:08
paisanomorning12:08
ohsixBartzy: it probably can, like i said; it's just easier/cleaner to use find, especially since you can do things like limit the depth12:08
rakshasacan somebody help me with this12:09
JohnHeikkilarakshasa: What's up?12:09
rakshasausb pendrive doesnot show up in fdisk -l12:09
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rakshasabut shows up in lsusb12:09
rakshasasg_modes /dev/sg1      USBest    USB2FlashStorage  0.00   peripheral_type: disk [0x0] device not ready12:09
alex88Kartagis: what does apt-get purge packagename says?12:09
ohsixrakshasa: look at dmesg after you plug it in12:09
rakshasadmesg*12:10
Kartagisalex88: Errors were encountered while processing:12:10
Kartagis dovecot-postfix12:10
KartagisE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:10
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alex88Kartagis: tried dpkg -a12:11
rakshasascsi6 : usb-storage 1-7:1.0 [26636.429372] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access     USBest   USB2FlashStorage 0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [26636.431709] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 [26636.433604] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk12:12
_drag0nzi need some help, how can i change the address for the sourcelists ?12:12
cyozhello, there's an option for a windows installer there on the ubuntu site.. does this install ubuntu "for real" or just within windows?12:12
FloodBot2!netsplit12:12
erUSULdr3mro: aqplications>ubuntu software center. Edit>software Sources12:12
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cyozgreat12:12
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit12:12
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cyoznetsplit ate my comment12:12
cyoz:/12:12
erUSUL!wubi | cyoz12:12
ubottucyoz: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe12:12
_drag0nzhey guys, i need some help, how can i change the address for the sourcelists ?12:13
_drag0nzfrom a swiss one to another one?12:13
sacarlsonhipitihop: I guess it's this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-mission-control/+bug/11955712:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 119557 in telepathy-mission-control (Ubuntu) "telepathy segfaults if MSN is not available" [Low,Fix released]12:13
cyozerUSUL, so I couldn't boot it, right?12:13
Kartagisalex88: dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq [!] dovecot-postfix12:14
Kartagisdpkg: need an action option12:14
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erUSULcyoz: you can boot into it yes.12:14
DuderinoHello i installed a load of packages after resetting my ubuntu installation. Now the display shows a weird error after booting: http://www.bilderload.com/bild/99589/bildHK7ZX.jpg has anybody seen this before? is it the video drivers? how can i fix it? command line is working on tty112:14
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erUSUL_drag0nz: already told you12:14
JohnHeikkila_drag0nz: You can open System|Administration|Software Sources, then pres "other"12:14
trancegeekcan anyone tell me what the bar is on the bottom of this screen? http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/136789-1.jpg12:14
_drag0nzthis is server not desktop12:14
trancegeeklike what application12:14
_drag0nzerUSUL, when did you tell me?12:14
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cyozerUSUL, excuse all the noob questions... so is there any downside as opposed to installing ubuntu from say an usb stick / dvd?12:14
erUSUL_drag0nz: sorry tab completion error aqplications>ubuntu software center. Edit>software Sources12:15
erUSULcyoz: wubi installs ubuntu in a disk image file inside windows. personally i d not like it12:15
alex88Kartagis: dpkg --force-remove -P dovecot-postfix12:15
Duderinohow can i check if my video drivers are working?12:15
ndxtgnoob question here, I installed vim but when in Insert mode, I press left arrow key and it behaves like insert a new line with D (exactly like how vi works). How to fix? I dont want vi, I want vim.12:15
erUSUL_drag0nz: but if you are in a server with no gui you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand12:16
ohsixcyoz: wubi installs ubunto to a loopback file on ntfs, it works, and can be preferable if you don't want to shrink/move partitions on a disk, but theres some overhead cuz there are 2 filesystems involved while its running12:16
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_drag0nzerUSUL, yeah i know, but where can i get the new address to replace what i have now?12:16
cyozI see12:16
cyozI'll try the usb-stick again then12:16
ohsixndxtg: did you invoke it as vim or vi?12:16
Kartagisalex88: still this: Errors were encountered while processing:12:16
Kartagis dovecot-postfix12:16
erUSUL_drag0nz: you just put another country prefix instead of the one you have now or just remove the country prefix to use the main repos12:17
_drag0nzerUSUL, so replace this http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?12:17
thevishyruan, once again in synaptic I am seeing a bunch of kde items12:17
coz_ good day all12:18
erUSUL_drag0nz: yes; that would work or use de or it or fr12:18
thevishywhich one to remove specificially12:18
thevishysame coz_12:18
coz_thevishy,  hey guy thanks12:18
mhdpierohi12:19
ohsixthevishy: you can uninstall the virtual; then all the stuff that wasn't manually installed will be removed12:19
Duderinowhat is an easy to use package manager for the shell?12:19
alex88Kartagis: can you pastebin the full output?12:19
thevishyvirtual ?12:19
ohsixDuderino: they're all easy; but the real question, and the answer to it is probably aptitude12:19
thevishyhow is virtual related to kde ohsix12:20
Duderinoty12:20
ohsixthevishy: the packages wouldn't be on there if not for the virtual (kubuntu-desktop)12:20
_drag0nzerUSUL, cool that worked12:20
_drag0nzso far atleast its updating12:20
thevishyso can I remove kubuntu-desktop ?12:20
_drag0nzi wonder why the ch doesnt work12:20
_drag0nzmayb it doesnt support ipv6 or something12:20
mhdpierocan you help me for add desktop gadget to backtrack 4 kde desktop?12:21
thevishyi thought meta packages like kubuntu-desktop only removes the kunbutu-desktop package and not the underlying ones - so I was told12:21
thevishysudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop woul not remove my KDE I guess12:21
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Duderinowhich problem could cause this: http://www.bilderload.com/bild/99589/bildHK7ZX.jpg during startup?12:21
Duderinoshell is working fine12:22
ohsixthevishy: well removing it doesn't remove the underlying ones, it just takes away the reason all those packages are installed, so autoremove will remove them12:22
Logan_mhdpiero: /join #backtrack-linux for BackTrack Linux support, please12:22
ohsixDuderino: ati or nvidia?12:22
coz_thevishy,    sudo apt-get remove akonadi-server akregator amarok amarok-common amarok-utils apport-kde apturl-kde ark bluedevil cdparanoia cdrdao docbook-xsl docbook-xsl-doc-html dolphin dragonplayer gdebi-core gdebi-kde gnupg-agent gnupg2 gtk2-engines-qtcurve gwenview hal hal-info ibus-qt4 icoutils jockey-kde k3b k3b-data kaddressbook kamera kate kcalc kde-config-gtk kde-config-touchpad kde-window-manager kde-zeroconf kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdeba12:22
coz_se-runtime kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdegraphics-libs-data kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-groupware kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepim-wizards kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdesudo kdm kdoctools kfind khelpcenter4 kinfocenter klipper kmag kmail kmix k12:22
FloodBot1coz_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:22
thevishyso how to autoremove then ohsix12:22
Duderinoati12:22
Kartagisalex88: http://pastebin.com/82ZyAfU012:22
Duderinoohsix: ati12:22
thevishyok thanks coz12:22
Duderinoohsix: hd385012:22
ohsixthevishy: it should be done automatically, but you can do it yourself with apt-get autoremove after purging kubuntu-desktop12:23
coz_apologies all,,, that was a slip up12:23
thevishycan I usse it ?12:23
ohsixDuderino: well, it's the kms portion, what driver are you using?12:23
Duderinoohsix. i dont know really, how can i check this?12:23
alex88Kartagis: have you tried to solve that /etc/postfix/main.cf problem?12:23
thevishyah so ...the commands like sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and sudo apt-get autoremove would do the trick for me ?12:23
ohsixDuderino: do you recall using the "Additional drivers" applet to install anything?12:24
ohsixthevishy: it should12:24
ohsixthevishy: make sure ubuntu-desktop or something else is installed before you do it12:24
thevishyit is12:24
Duderinoohsix: i reinstalled my system and used http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/19/ubuntu-tricks-how-to-generate-a-list-of-installed-packages-and-use-it-to-reinstall-packages/ this method to regain my apps. Therefore i have installed a lot of apps, but i cant really say which ones12:25
ohsixjust had to be said ;]12:25
thevishyo I have to make my desktop manager GDM from KDM , or does apt-get remove take care of that12:25
mylistoI'm trying to figure out how to transfer images from my chip to my laptop...12:25
mhdpierologan:I went but no body in it I hear backtrack4 desktop similler ubuntu please help me12:25
mylistoI'm getting a "Error splicing file: Input/output error"12:25
thevishymylisto, what Chip ?12:25
thevishyis  that a USB stick you are refering to12:26
mylistonot a usb...12:26
ohsixthevishy: i'm not sure, but they do things so systems don't break; do i assume update-alternatives or something is used to switch between login managers, and it'll get a default when packages are changed12:26
mylistomicrosd12:26
thevishyit does all that ohsix but just a thought12:26
ohsixright12:27
mylistothevishy: its a microsd...12:27
Duderinowhat is the normal ati-graphics package to install?12:27
ouyeshi I can not open ibus , I set the short key ctrl + space, but I press both then nothing happens12:28
ohsixDuderino: i don't know personally12:28
Kartagisalex88: that's not my concern right now12:29
ohsixDuderino: theres fglrx and the "radeonhd" and "radeon" drivers; though their selection should be automatic, you probably want the fglrx drivers, at least until your device is better supported by the others, and kms might not work with them12:29
alex88Kartagis: it would solve the problem12:29
thevishyso mylisto how do you connect the microsd ... is it using a USB ?12:29
mylistothevishy: no, I slip it into the onboard card reader12:31
Duderinoohsix: xserver-xorg-video-ati is installed at the moment, fglrx aswell. is there any command to view the actual graphcs settings?12:31
thevishyright12:31
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ohsixDuderino: well theres glxinfo which will give you a good indication of what the driver actually is without having to dig through logs12:32
Duderinoohsix: error unable to open display12:32
ohsixare you logged into a desktop session? it needs to talk to the X server12:32
thevishymylisto, any idea if its working with other OS ? could it be a problem with a non working microsd12:32
gnugr!fglrx12:32
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:32
mylistothevishy: I can access it and see some pictures...12:33
mylistoI think its a permission issue, but I'm not quite sure12:33
sl33k_what is the shortcut to take screenshot in ubuntu?12:33
ouyesI am such a fool, just follow the software pop up tips, you will get the ibus work12:34
ohsixbbl12:34
MaRk-Isl33k_: printscreen key12:34
ohsixsl33k_: printscreen12:34
magpiiecan someone tell me the correct command line to use for resetting my toolbars? when i minimize a window, it doesnt appear on my bottom bar12:35
ohsix!resetpanels | magpiie12:35
ubottumagpiie: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »12:35
socram_after locking my desktop for two days, im now having high IOwait.. how can i know what's causing it?12:36
ohsixsocram_: you can look for programs waiting in io in top12:36
ohsixsocram_: or use iotop and see directly what programs are doing with the disk12:36
ohsixtop can be convinced to show wchan so you can even see where a program is sleeping12:36
magpiieubottu thanks, was doing my nut in not being able to see the windows12:37
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:37
MaRk-Iwow12:37
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Pici!netsplit12:37
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit12:37
ohsixi wish the freenode guys would just disconnect servers getting ddos instead of letting this crap go on and on12:38
soreauohsix: Ans we wish you would complain in the appropriate channel12:38
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magpiieso its not just me thats seeing everyone disconnect at the same time then12:39
ohsixsoreau: pardon me when theres nobody to read what i'm saying, particularly the people i was talking to12:39
iroello12:39
magpiiehi12:39
coz_magpiie,  no it was most likely a net split12:39
ikoniaohsix: #freenode is the correct place to discuss it, please.12:39
manieko lol12:39
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iromaniek nie spamuj\12:39
magpiienet split?12:39
manieki like cumshot on the face12:40
ikoniamagpiie: don't worry about it12:40
ikoniamagpiie: that topic is NOT apporpriate in this channel12:40
ohsixikonia: no discussion12:40
ikonia!guidelines | magpiie12:40
ubottumagpiie: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines12:40
maniekfive minutes ago i will rape little child.12:40
maniekand eat them.12:40
axscodehow to upgrade a specific apps?12:40
ohsixikonia: you guys turn one statement into 15 lines ogff garbage12:40
manieki like it.12:40
ikoniaohsix: ok "comments" on it, please12:40
mylistogod, stupid floods12:40
ohsixnoted12:40
coz_magpiie,  one of the servers probably , temporarily, went down12:40
jribaxscode: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE12:40
magpiiedont need me to look at guidlines, i was only responding to someone on this channel12:40
ikoniaohsix: thanks, appreciated12:40
magpiiea simple question12:41
ikoniamagpiie: the the guide lines where for maniek sorry12:41
markskilbeckmagpiie: you've got to be careful in this totalitarian environment.12:41
ikoniamagpiie: totally my fault, apologies12:41
The_Endhey12:41
magpiiecoz cheers, i have recently jumped onboard the ubuntu train and tech speek is still a bit over my head lol12:41
markskilbeckSalut¬!12:41
magpiieikonia no worries12:42
ohsixmarkskilbeck: it's not totalitarian, and there is a topic12:42
Logan_markskilbeck: completely unnecessary; please do not antagonize12:42
Duderinoohsix: Thank you. Got it working with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch12:42
markskilbeckSee what I mean ;)12:42
ikoniaguys,12:42
ohsixDuderino: keen12:42
magpiiehow do i send someone a direct message? am i doing it right by just starting my topic with there name?12:42
ForceDestroyerI have a hunch that I'm having problems with some kind of power saving that kills my network adapter12:43
ikoniamagpiie: just say the persons name who your talking to12:43
ikoniamagpiie: eg: as I'm doing to you now12:43
markskilbeckmagpiie: /msg user message12:43
magpiieikonia is this right?12:43
ikoniamagpiie: perfect12:43
ForceDestroyerI'm relatively new to Linux, how do I turn off or manage power saving features that might relate to the ethernet adapter?12:43
ohsixForceDestroyer: is it something you can force with mii-tool/ifconfig or some driver stuff in /sys?12:43
ForceDestroyerI'n mew enough to Linuy to have no idea what you're talking about... ^^;12:44
ForceDestroyer*new12:44
magpiiesweet, as you might be able to tell, i am fairly noob with computer language, as for ubuntu, i have been with this system just over a month, and its perfect(ish)12:44
markskilbeckForceDestroyer: you probably mean GNU/Linux, but whatever.12:44
ohsixForceDestroyer: well i dunno if you can if the driver doesn't support it; trying to force it at least gives you enough information to report a bug, when you talk about power management do you mean when your laptop isn't on AC or something?12:44
sipiormarkskilbeck: that's enough.12:44
* markskilbeck has been muddied by RMS12:44
ohsixmarkskilbeck: trolling is offtopic on freenode, not just here12:45
ForceDestroyerNo, I mean it is known that this Laptop has ACPI issues and I need to reboot 5-10 times to get the network adapter to work every day o.o12:45
Logan_!ot | markskilbeck12:45
ubottumarkskilbeck: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:45
markskilbeckYou're welcome!12:45
knoppiesI just accidentally shift-deleted a folder. Can somebody please advice me how to get it back (ubuntu 10.10), I need a quick fix, not something that is going to take me 4 hours to complete. I deleted it a few minutes ago, I haven't done anything since (except open IRC)12:45
insanity99where is python folder? i need to find 'site-packages'12:45
ohsixForceDestroyer: ah, is your bios version current?12:45
jrib!recover | knoppies12:45
ubottuknoppies: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel12:45
Kartagisalex88: to my surprise, it solved the problem12:45
jribinsanity99: why?12:46
insanity99to add a python module12:46
knoppiesjrib, thanks, but I was hoping for a suggestion more directed at my problem. I will have a look.12:46
hipitihopsacarlson, sorry, tep possibly the one12:46
jribknoppies: what python module?12:46
ohsixForceDestroyer: it's really all up in the air if you have other problems :\12:46
jribknoppies: I am also looking for a machine to turn aluminum into gold but unfortunately there are things that do not exist :)12:47
ForceDestroyerWell... I don't have other problems, I just read other people said the ACPI was strange12:47
cyclobianhi there.. does anyone know the name of the project that tries to make Gimp look like Photoshop?12:47
ikoniacyclobian: try the guys in #gimp12:47
Logan_cyclobian: GIMPShop12:47
nickorhi guys12:48
knoppiesjrib, I said nothing about a python module. Does it have to be aluminium?12:48
cyclobianah thnx (kinda logical)12:48
cyclobian;)12:48
insanity99jrib?12:48
jribinsanity99: what python module?12:48
ohsixForceDestroyer: do you know what driver is used for your ethernet? like is it a marvell & uses the tg3 driver?12:48
nickori ran the hard drive diagnostic from terminal yesterday12:48
ForceDestroyerohsix: bios version? Uh, I don't know... does BIOS play a role after the bootloader? The network adapter dies during booting of ubuntu, and then sometimes is re-enabled when the login screen appears (green lights on the switch turned off/on again)12:48
nickorand im very confuised with the results12:48
MaRk-IForceDestroyer: that usually happens when the laptop goes into suspend or hibernation mode you have one of them enabled?12:48
nickorit ran all night12:48
sipiorinsanity99: usually under "/usr/lib/python2.6", or "/usr/local/lib/python26", chaning version numbers as appropriate.12:48
nickorand is still goin going upward12:49
ohsixForceDestroyer: acpi problems originate from data in the bios and persist the entire time it runs, so if you have a problem with it being current on your bios can help12:49
insanity99jrib, swampy for the book think python, been trying for ages and cant continue till i do it12:49
jribinsanity99: it's unlikely that you should need direct knowledge of these paths to install a python module though12:49
ohsixForceDestroyer: it being the computer, not the bios12:49
nickor8430214512:49
ForceDestroyerokay... I'll look for a current bios first then... mom12:49
nickoretc....12:49
nickoris this normal behavior?12:49
Logan_!enter | nickor12:50
ubottunickor: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:50
fillayuhi, a quick question. how to change the php version from 5.3 to 5.212:50
rileypam i invisible?12:50
ohsixForceDestroyer: best case scenario, it is related and is fixed by the update, otherwise we can look further12:50
nickorill try to be more concise Logan12:50
Picirileyp: we can see you.12:50
markskilbeckfillayu: 5.2 is no longer supported, BTW.12:50
Kronushello all12:50
Kronusneed assistance please12:50
rileypah ok thanks12:50
markskilbeckBut you would checkout the source from svn.php.net, and compile it yourself.12:50
Pici!ask | Kronus12:50
ubottuKronus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)12:50
Kronusok12:51
jribinsanity99: see: http://docs.python.org/install/index.html especially "the home scheme"12:51
ohsixForceDestroyer: also the lights might not have anything to do with what you think, networkmanager brings the interface up and down, and your networking problem could be entirely outside the driver12:51
KronusI'm wondering on how I can disable the "nouveau kernel" so that i can install my nvidia driver12:51
ForceDestroyerohsix: there might be a new BIOS verion, though it says nothing of ACPI. I'm afk for a bit, I'll download and try it asap. Thanks.12:51
mhdpierohi12:51
coz_Kronus,  that should disable when you install the nvidia driver from  /system/administration/additional drivers12:52
ohsixForceDestroyer: they never list the important/embarassing things ;]12:52
coz_Kronus,  and you have to do a reboot for that to take effect12:52
Kronusi tried blacklisting it already but the nvidia installer keeps complaining12:52
Kronusand im on Lubuntu btw12:52
coz_Kronus,  are you downloading the driver from nvidia.com?12:53
Logan_!lubuntu | Kronus12:53
ubottuKronus: lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.12:53
Kronusyes12:53
insanity99ok thanks12:53
coz_Kronus,   open a terminal   and type   jockey-gtk12:53
coz_I think that should be on lubuntu12:53
Kronusand next?12:53
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coz_Kronus,  ok when that opens,, look for the   nvidia_current dirver and click to hightlight and then activate12:54
ohsixKronus: if you need a newer driver than ubuntu includes, after following coz's instructions you should check out the x-updates ppa12:54
coz_Kronus,  let that download and install,, then  reboot the system12:54
Kronushmmm... im using the comp at work right now12:54
ohsixKronus: f.e. if you need the 290 driver12:54
coz_Kronus, ok take notes :)12:55
Kronusand another thing the install keeps complaining about a "script" at the beggining of installation can't remember what it's called12:56
Kronusbut it prompted me to install anyway12:56
Kronusand that's when the nouveau kernel prob kicks in12:56
ohsixusing the vendor driver installer for distros with a package manager is bad juju12:56
Kronusim using legacy drivers for nvidia geforce 2 mx 40012:57
Kronusdownload from nvidia.com12:57
Kronus*downloaded12:57
coz_Kronus,  the legacy drivers should also be in  jockey-gtk12:57
Emilhello :) new to linux. trying to install a lib. getting that i dont have permission. how do i 'make install' with admin privileges?12:58
ohsixyea you don't want to do that, let jockey do it for you12:58
PiciEmil: put sudo in front of it.12:58
coz_Emil,  where are you installing this library from and how?12:58
Emilthanks!12:58
Logan_!sudo | Emil12:58
ubottuEmil: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo12:58
nickorfor new users id recommend #ubuntu-beginners aswell12:58
fillayuhi12:58
Kronusand guys im ashamed to say this i don't have internet at home too :(12:59
Kronusthe connection was cut off a month ago12:59
Logan_!ot | Kronus12:59
ubottuKronus: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:59
ohsixLogan_: heh12:59
fillayumarkskilbeck  a cakephp project can be used in php 5.2, but not used in php 5.312:59
ohsixLogan_: given the context i'm sure hes meaning to ask how to find the files he needs to take home12:59
coz_Kronus,  you might be able to download the requires packages under synaptic package manager and save them..then take that home and install13:00
Kronusso that means no apt-get or synaptic for me13:00
coz_Kronus,  are you on linux at work?13:00
ohsixyea, synaptic will let you create state bundles13:00
Kronusnope they use WinDOZE13:00
axscodeanyone happen to know how to transfer multiple layers to other page on gimp?13:00
hrvojevHello. How can I join other server?13:00
cyozlast time I tried to install ubuntu 10.10 from my usb-stick I got an error during the setup and googling the issue seemed to show that this an unfixed issue in ubuntu. Not an expert but apparently the installer is confused by a different file system on the stick as compared to a cd. Does anybody know anything about that?13:01
cyozI'm trying it again today..13:01
Kronusthat's probably the most awful part... >.<13:01
ohsixaxscode: do the copy from the layers window?13:01
zvacetKronus:  see if http://keryxproject.org/ can help you13:01
set_Hi13:01
axscodeohsix: how about multiple layer at once?13:02
Kronushmmm... let me check it out...13:02
_marixany hardcore users of rdesktop that have found a way to type scpecial chars like Ø (alt+0216) to a windows host?13:02
ohsixcyoz: the file could be damaged on disk, computers don't get confused; they do what you tell them :P13:02
set_I dont have a lot of time. I need to create live version ubuntu booting from pendrive with installed the third softwares13:02
nickorwhats the terminal command to check the disk for errors?13:02
nickorfcsk -v is that right?13:03
ohsix_marix: whatever you do to enter them like that in windows should work13:03
steveireHi. I have just upgraded to natty. I have two monitors in a 'double wide screen' setup, which used to work, and now doesn't. I think I was using drivers downloaded directly from the nvidia website before, but I'd prefer to use distro stuff instead. My second monitor is blank, but I seem to be able to move my mouse in there.13:03
steveirelspci | grep VGA13:03
steveire01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300 GE] (rev a1)13:03
Picisteveire : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.13:03
cyozohsix, well I forgot the exact wording but it looked like the ubuntu installer does expect something different when using a flash drive13:03
cyozI just can't find the post again...13:03
Kronushmm... I'll try this Keryx out...13:03
Logan_!natty | steveire13:03
ubottusteveire: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.13:03
set_How i can do this? I found instructions howto make bootable pendrive with ubuntu buth without third software like: nvidia drivers, benchmark of graphic card and cpu...13:03
zvacet!natty | steveire13:03
Kronusbut can someone tell me how to disable that nouveau kernel?13:03
_marixohsix: no, the rdesktop disables tha alt efter the first number pressed, so in notepad, you get 216 written instead of the char13:04
Kronusjust in case13:04
ohsixzvacet: thanks for the link13:04
ohsix_marix: interesting13:04
Logan_Kronus: /join #nouveau13:04
zvacetohsix:  np  ;)13:04
ohsix_marix: if theres no setting to affect that for rdesktop i'id say that it was almost certainly a bug13:05
Kronusok thnx for all those who helped ill keep those in mind13:05
Kronus:013:05
Kronus:)13:05
_marixohsix: no setting that i have found that would affect it, not sure if its the default desktop in 10.10 that does some anti hold magic13:05
ohsix_marix: well alt is a key press/up event like anything else, but it sounds like its just bundling the alt state with one character, instead of a complete down, n sym, up sequence13:06
_marixohsix: pretty much yes13:07
mylistoargh...13:07
mylistocan't find out why I can't move my files from my microsd to my desktop...13:07
Corehello! I have the following problem: I connect to my linux computer via tightvncserver (burned video chip) and I am unable to connect both to my wireless and wired network at the same time. When I try to connect to wireless it says: Dissconnecting active connections and I lose my vnc connection and I have to restart manually to connect again. If anyone could help me it would be really appreciated13:07
mylistogetting these errors when I do a dmesg13:07
mylistohttp://pastebin.com/vCHUhE8713:07
ohsix_marix: you could try the character map applet if its not needed to enter it very often13:08
ferengeemylisto, your fat on your microsd is corrupted13:08
RobinHoodYankDownUnder : you there?13:08
mylistoah...13:08
mylistoferengee: anyway to fix it?13:08
_marixohsix: its needed to often, already tried that route :)13:09
ohsix:\13:09
ferengeemylisto, not that i know13:09
ferengeemylisto, I would recommend testdisk and / or photorec13:09
ohsixwell i'm pretty sure its a bug, you should report it; if its expected to work like that and wont change, at least someone will tell you that when they close the bug13:09
_marixohsix: its the small things noone thinks about when they get the bright idea to do thin clients13:10
axscodeis there a way to install gimp 2.7.1 via apt?13:10
ohsixshrug13:10
_marixohsix: will do13:10
ohsix_marix: you could also try the windows imes13:10
x0zrlHi... does somebody knows the best way to restrict a user with sudo... i mean the main idea is to the user to witre and delete only in his /home/ and use aptitude and sudo only for networking and viewing logs...13:10
ohsixit'd be awkward but i think theres a unicode ime for easy entry of that stuff, like ubuntu has13:10
_marixohsix: will look into it13:11
ohsixx0zrl: thats what sudo does, theres no best way to edit the configuration file & read the manual to suit your preferences ;]13:11
miyamotocan we install ubuntu in macbook pro or older ver13:12
miyamoto????13:12
Sean____Is there a way to open the internet configuration(wifi specifically) window via a keyboard shortcut or terminal command?13:12
ohsixSean____: try win+b13:12
ohsixSean____: to my surprise it selects the notification area :D13:13
Corehello! I have the following problem: I connect to my linux computer via tightvncserver (burned video chip) and I am unable to connect both to my wireless and wired network at the same time. When I try to connect to wireless it says: Dissconnecting active connections and I lose my vnc connection and I have to restart manually to connect again. If anyone could help me it would be really appreciated13:13
ohsixor did, before natty; cant seem to make it do it now13:13
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ohsixCore: do they connect to the same network?13:13
zvacetaxscode:  see https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn13:14
miyamotoany suggestion plzzzzz.....how to install ubuntu in macbook13:14
ohsixCore: 802.1x (with wpa) on the wifi connection makes doing that a bit odd; i don't think you'll be able to do it in a useful way, actually13:14
aeon-ltd!mac | miyamoto13:14
ubottumiyamoto: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages13:14
RobinHoodmiyamoto : whaddya need to know ... I've got it on an old jellybean-shaped iMac.13:15
axscodeErr http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick/main Sources                                                      404  Not Found  <-- this is on apt-get update is this the same on launchpad.net?13:15
Sean____ohsix: hmm, not sure, not having much luck with win+b13:15
ohsixSean____: i could be mistaken about it being b, let me look around a bit13:15
Coreohsix: i connect to different networks. Actually wired is WAN and wireless to a ad-hoc network13:16
number-onehello how to disable the #ubuntu autojoin ?13:16
Sean____ohsix: thanks, just having troubles with my mouse atm so have to rely on keyboard shortcuts and commands :)13:16
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ohsixCore: that won't do what you expect13:17
zvacetaxscode:  go to the site with a link and there will be instructions13:17
sss314I've compiled a C program using gcc. I can run it using the terminal but I also want to be able to run it by double clicking it in nautilus. any help?13:17
ohsixCore: but you can set network-manager to share the ad-hoc network, then it might13:17
aeon-ltdsss314: chmod +x nameoffile13:17
ohsixsss314: it is running when you double click on it13:17
aeon-ltdsss314: that will make it executable to run13:18
ohsixsss314: you just won't see any output if it has no gui13:18
ohsixsss314: or if its not run in a terminal13:18
sss314aeon-ltd ohsix I can run it by writing "./my-prog" in the terminal but not by double-clicking13:18
ohsixsss314: it is running, you just can't see the output ...13:19
sss314ohsix aeon-ltd So how I make it run in the terminal by double clicking? (don't have GUI in prog)13:19
Emilusing synaptic package manager. keeps complaining about files not found. how to resolve this issue?13:20
ohsixsss314: theres no way for nautilus to know you want to run just that one in a terminal, you'll have to create a wrapper that starts the shell for you, or install the nautilus extras that will let you right click and run it in a terminal13:20
aeon-ltdsss314: create a script that does 'xterm(or name of whatever terminal you use) -e nameoffile'13:20
aeon-ltdsss314: then run that script instead13:21
sss314ohsix aeon-ltd Thank you.13:21
xgt001my laptop doesnt calm down after getting noisy13:21
xgt001any ideas13:21
aeon-ltdxgt001: whats the cpu like? if its process that still maxing out near 100% (or 80>) then the fan won't calm down - it needs to cool13:22
xgt001no its not 100%13:23
ohsixsss314: i think the package with the right click thing is in nautilus-actions13:23
aeon-ltdxgt001: around...?13:23
xgt001barely 12 %13:23
aeon-ltdxgt001: what were you running before?13:23
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xgt001actually initially it keeps quiet once it gets noisy13:23
zvacetEmil:  what are you trying to install13:23
xgt001it takes ten minutes to calm down13:23
aeon-ltdxgt001: old laptop?13:24
xgt001any hacks to reduce the spin down time ???13:24
aeon-ltdxgt001: you can force the fan to slow down, but i wouldn't out of risk of overheating13:24
xgt001no13:24
xgt001just one month13:24
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elfranneis there a way to stream video without having to reencode them ?13:25
aeon-ltdxgt001: i've got no solutions then. sorry13:25
xgt001no in windows it calms down immediately after login13:25
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xgt001how to decrease the time taken for the hardisk to spin down13:26
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royale1223!info uck13:27
ubottuuck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 194 kB, installed size 672 kB13:27
ohsixxgt001: have a look at /etc/hdparm.conf13:28
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Emilhello anybody here? i want to install eclipse-cdt on my ubuntu but it says that some of the files are missing. do i continue or not? if not, where do i get the missing files? this seems to be happening for a lot of software for me. isnt it a good idea to remove the softwares from the list if files are missing?13:31
Emil(synaptic package manager)13:31
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Sean____Is there a way to get the GUI window of internet configuration up via terminal or anything?13:32
BluesKajHiyas13:32
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Sean____my mouse is giving me issues, so I can only use my keyboard to do stuff atm.13:33
ohsixSean____: you could use nmcli13:33
ohsixSean____: setting up new connections like nm-applet does is quite hard though13:33
rob_pEmil: At a minimum, I'd think you will need a functional development environment for eclipse or some of it's plugins.13:33
Sean____hmm13:33
rob_pEmil: Did you take note of which packages are claimed to be missing?13:34
Sean____I'm not too competent yet so nmcli probably would be beyond me, its just I cant click on the little wifi icon because my mouse is having problems with ubuntu.13:34
ohsixSean____: if the connection is already configured you can use nmcli to connect to it13:34
TheUrossomeone from french here ?13:34
ohsix!fr13:34
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:34
ohsix!ir13:35
ubottu#ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.13:35
TheUrosfrance yes13:35
ohsixhshs13:35
ohsixalright the help desk is closed (for me at least, /afk)13:35
Corehow can I make tightvncserver start all the apps that normal login starts?13:36
Sean____actually the connection is already configured, so I just need to work out how to properly use nmcli to connect to my setup :P13:36
Sean____yup displayed current status, I see my thing there, so how do I go about connecting to it13:37
zvacetEmil:  under ubuntu software center check all except source and cdrom and under updates check first two reload and then try to install ahain13:37
Koritsahey, i did a sudo passwd and defined a root password and i want to undo this action so that i wont be able to get into the root account just use the sudo, is this possible?13:37
ohsixSean____: nmcli con up13:37
ohsixsee nmcli con help for proper usage13:38
PiciKoritsa: sudo passwd -l   will re-lock the root password.13:38
BluesKajSean____,  wifi ?13:38
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Sean____yeah, wifi blues.13:39
DarkSector_hello, I have my id_rsa with me taken from another machine and I just put it into my .ssh folder, but I am unable to ssh to my server, how to make it work ? I have the complete backup of my $HOME from the other machine13:39
UBuxuBUi want to have a ubuntu page on my site...13:40
Koritsahello, i did a sudo passwd and change the root account pswd so i could get into it. but now i want to undo this so i wont be able to get into the root account like before and have to use the sudo cmd...13:40
BluesKajtry sudo dhclient wlan0 , Sean____13:40
Koritsasomeone know how i do it?13:40
PiciKoritsa: I told you a moment ago.13:40
ohsixBluesKaj: he's trying to tell nm what profile to bring up from the console13:41
BluesKajohsix,so he has an ethernet option as well then?13:41
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Koritsapici i know but i have lags13:42
ohsixBluesKaj: i could tell you the situation but suffice it to say he's got a firm grip on how to rectify it13:42
PiciKoritsa: Do you need me to repeat it?13:43
Koritsayes plz13:43
Sean____nah says no such device for wlan013:43
Sean____:(13:43
aciculaDarkSector_: you have to put your public key as authorized key on the server first13:43
DarkSector_acicula: its already on the server, the previous machine I was able to connect to it using ssh13:43
DarkSector_acicula: and I have copied those exact keys13:43
ohsixSean____: stick with nmcli, also the "id" is the uuid from the nmcli con list output13:44
aciculaDarkSector_: could try being explicit by specifying -i /path/to/your/.ssh/id_rsa13:44
Koritsapici?13:44
DarkSector_acicula: did that, public key permission denied13:44
aciculaDarkSector_: -v enables the verbose flag so you get some more output13:44
PiciKoritsa: Nevermind.  Let me know if you need more help with that.13:44
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KoritsaPici - can you plz tell me agian how to do it. becuz of my lag i missed your answer13:45
haqe17Sean____: sudo apt-get install xautomation ; while true ; do  xte 'mousermove 1 1'; done13:45
aciculaDarkSector_: connecting as the proper user also?13:45
PiciKoritsa: To lock the root password, use: sudo passwd -l     (thats a lowercase L)13:45
DarkSector_acicula: exactly the same as on previous machine, exactly13:45
haqe17Sean____: cntrl-c when u reach the wifi icon13:45
aciculaDarkSector_: try -v13:45
BluesKajnmcli , could be an interesting option,, ~/.ssh/known_hosts , perhaps , Sean____ ?13:46
KoritsaPici this dosnt seems to work13:47
PiciKoritsa: What happens?13:47
ohsixman you guys have awful suggestions ;] esp. when nmcli is trivial13:48
shane2hi guys13:48
Koritsapici  i found it. it's sudo passwd -l root13:48
Koritsathank you13:48
shane2how we can give specific permssion to specific group13:48
shane2?13:49
shane2please help me13:49
porgToshiba Tecra M3 with Ubuntu 10.10 : How can I create power profiles in order to reduce fan noise / CPU speed ?13:49
ferengeeDarkSector_,  you can start the ssh server in debug mode in a terminal on a different port to see what is going on13:49
BluesKajohsix, do you use nmcli ? is it worth configuring vs the aplet ?13:50
porgWithin Windows Toshiba offers a utility for power managment, but I haven't found the equivalent within Ubuntu.13:50
RobinHoodHowdy, I'm a noob at using window managers other than the usual...I accidentally ran openbox-session from inside gnome, and nothing happened except that gnome got awfully sluggish. Now, in GDM (appropriately named, incidentally, considering it's pretty close to the swear word I've been usinf for the past two days) ...13:51
RobinHood...in GDM, there's no GNOME option like there used to be, but GNOME/Openbox...13:51
RobinHoodAnd GNOME/Openbox still uses metacity, it's just that openbox is constantly running, being killed, and respawning in the background.13:52
RobinHoodAny ideas on how to get back to using metacity by default?13:52
ohsixBluesKaj: if your mouse doesn't work it will get you buy13:52
ohsixBluesKaj: by13:53
Sean____sec, guys. btw haqe, I'm not connected to the internet on my laptop which is the one with the problems, hence I can't get xautmoation via sudo apt-get heh.13:53
ohsixBluesKaj: adding keys to seahorse and connections is very hard without using keyfile though13:53
ohsixSean____: good point13:53
ampont/server dalnet /join #aceh13:54
ohsixno thanks13:54
wtCoderIs chinese firend here?13:54
ampontid13:55
Sean____haha, thank you though, ohsix, I'll install it when I get the wifi connected :P13:55
RobinHoodAnybody?13:56
amponthelp13:56
ampontmt ubuntu is not connect wifi13:57
reganahi all13:57
amponthi13:57
ohsixSean____: nmcli still too hard? heh, look at the output of nmcli con list, plug it into nmcli con up id <id>13:57
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amponthellme13:57
ohsixSean____: you can use the name too13:58
ohsixerr, up id is for the name, up uuid is for the uuid13:58
reganasee you all...13:59
Guest93845I'm doing a "ssh -x myserver" and running a gnome command like gedit, but I get this error: GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash.... Any help?13:59
PiciGuest93845: Its -X not -x for X11 forwarding.14:00
Guest93845yeah I mean -X14:00
ohsixeh14:01
ohsixno gconfd?14:01
Guest93845ps -ef  | grep gconfd reveals two gconfd processes running14:02
dirkGgenerally speaking, when doing a drive (re)format, all the data is still there right?  i'm not talking about nsa wipes or anything, just a regular from-the-disk reformat14:03
Guest93845if its a quick format dirkG then yes I think so14:03
ohsixdirkG: a regular format just writes the bare fs structure to function as an empty volume; what it does to clobber thigs depends on the fs14:04
xgt001 my laptop is noisy only when it runs on ac power but runs quietly in battery... pls help out14:05
ohsixformatting with fat then leaving it alone will barely change the disk at all, for example14:05
knoppiesdirkG, well, I think the partition tables are overwritten, but yes, on a quick format, I think most of the device is untouched.14:05
knoppiesxgt001, noisy? could it be a fan?14:05
xgt001no idea... if i unplug it it becomes quiet,,14:05
ohsixtestdisk can search for partitions and readd them14:05
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xgt001knoppies: now sure its the fan14:06
IronHalikhello14:06
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knoppiesxgt001, try clean the dust out of it, and if the fan seems unbalanced, try balance it (not sure how to do that, except maybe replace it (or clean it))14:06
IronHalikhow can i connect to windows workgroup/homegroup from my ubuntu box? :>14:06
ohsixIronHalik: Places -> Connect to server14:07
dirkGohsix, does testdisk know how to handle ntfs?14:07
xgt001knoppies : the same thing runs quietly even in ac power in windows14:07
knoppiesIronHalik, if you are using GNOME, then click PLACES -> connect to server14:07
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BluesKaj!samba | IronHalik14:07
ubottuIronHalik: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.14:07
ohsixdirkG: yes, but the partition table is different than the filesystem14:07
IronHaliktried that ubottu, ill try adding a server14:07
IronHalikthx14:07
dirkGi see14:07
ohsix.14:07
Guest93845xgt001 you should be able to tell what the noise is coming from...14:08
ohsixBluesKaj: way to clobber the useful information14:08
BluesKajohsix, uhmm , so samba isn't an option ?14:09
xgt001Guest93845: its the fan noise.... very irritating ... now its only in ac power.... on battery runs quietly14:09
Guest93845maybe you have a power saving setting that causes your fan to run when plugged into ac14:09
Guest93845like "high performance" when ac plugged in14:10
IronHalikffs - whats my workgroup password? :D14:10
xgt001i just turned it off in ati14:10
ohsixBluesKaj: just don't be so quick on those factoids, the "windows shares permanently" does not do whathe's asking and is a huge distraction from getting it done14:10
xgt001should i reboot and check14:10
IronHalikI mean, whats the default passworkd when I dont have one? :>14:10
zhanghjno; iyhyg[    ghy8o '14:11
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ohsixIronHalik: you need one on the account on the windows share to connect to it, unless you use simple file sharing or enable guest access14:11
Guest93845if you've made a change to power settings then maybe just wait a few minutes and the machine will cool down and switch the fan off14:11
ohsixGuest93845: did you check and see if it was actually heat?14:11
IronHalikohsix, oh, thx14:12
Guest93845if the fan is _really_ noisy then it might need replacing14:12
xgt001the fan is noisy only in ac and only in ubuntu14:12
RobinHoodGuest93845 : noisy fans seem to be a pretty common problem in buntu (especially on Mac hardware, find that a bit odd...)14:13
RobinHood*apple14:13
BluesKajohsix, oh so you're the arbiter of what should or should not be posted here ? Well ,excuse me, but I don't think I need your permission to post here . I fyou don't like it , then take it up with the ops.14:13
Dr_Willistheres so many differnt ways these mbs can controll fan speeds.14:13
dom96Anyone else getting a "Partial Update" thing in the update manager today?14:14
Guest93845maybe the noisy fan is caused by a bios setting that causes ubuntu to think the cpu temperature is maxing out14:15
ohsixBluesKaj: if you distract people from solving their problems in such a way then you are making trouble, you understand? i can't control what you say, but that isn't the intent of the channel14:15
bazhangohsix, lets move on please14:15
ohsixagreed14:16
xgt001Guest93845: how to fix tat14:16
BluesKajohsix, so the factoids are a distraction in your opinion.,...inyeresting14:16
ohsixBluesKaj: read what you offered as "advice" for solving his problem14:16
ohsixBluesKaj: and what two other people told him to do ..14:17
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ohsixno need to be antagonistic, but personally i'm interested in helping people14:17
MaRk-Ixgt001:  check settings on power management options on AC like "spin down hard disks when possible"14:17
trancegeekhow would i go about installing ppa packages for maverick in natty? (i asked in the +1 room but nobody answered so i'm curious if anyone in here knows)14:17
BluesKajoshi I did , no one mentioned samba which is is viable option , so I did.14:17
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xgt001i just removed the cord and it became very very silent immediately14:17
FloodBot2!netsplit14:17
porgAs I mentioned the fan noise is also very uncomfortable on my Toshiba Tecra M3.14:17
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit14:17
RobinHoodohhhh, poo...14:18
xgt001Mark-i : i have selected that option in both ac power and in batteries14:18
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porgAnd the same fan noise also plagued me when I used Ubuntu on my MacBookPro14:18
RobinHoodOh, hey, still 1503 users.14:18
ohsixBluesKaj: that is not "samba", that is an article on how to do something with smbfs, the first class way to do  what he asked was Places -> Connect to server14:18
ForceDestroyerOkay, for some reason the Asus BIOS flashing tools either don't like me or I didn't find the right one... can I flash BIOS safely from within Ubuntu?14:18
porgSo, any hints on how to imrpove power/cpu/fan settings?14:18
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Guest93845googling for noise fan ubuntu gives lots of hits like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AA1/Fixes - search down for fan control14:19
ohsixtrancegeek: well you make sure its getting the mav packages then pin them if theres a conflicting version; if there isn't then theres nothing to do after the first step14:19
porgThe Ubuntu preference pane "Power Management" offers only few options.14:19
xgt001porg: agreed......14:19
Guest93845I suggest googling around and spend some time reading up on solutions14:19
ohsixtrancegeek: rarely, mixing versions can be a problem though; if its just a user program and nothing to do with running the system you should be ok though14:19
trancegeekohsix, it's an icon pack14:20
trancegeekthere just isn't a version built for natty, i doubt there are compatibility issues14:20
porgGuest93845: Your URL was for an Acer14:20
porgI already googled for about 50min w/o success...14:20
ohsixtrancegeek: icon names change pretty regularly between releases, it might not work14:21
trancegeekhmm14:21
trancegeektrue14:21
trancegeekdammit14:21
porgHence i wanted to ask what's the general Ubuntu power/fan approach14:21
BluesKajohsix,, I disagree with your estimation of the the importance of his windows share options. Let's just leave it at that.14:21
Guest93845hehe I even found a page targeted towards silencing the vaio fan for my ubuntu vaio laptop :)14:21
ohsixtrancegeek: but add the ppa, then go to software properties & change the release for the ppa to maverick, then reload packages14:21
ohsixBluesKaj: i at least read what you offered as a solution, i suggest you do as well14:21
BluesKajohsix, suggest all you want :)14:22
ohsixBluesKaj: so you are providing information you don't even read or know the contents of ... i'm pretty sure thats deliberately misleading people14:23
bazhangohsix, BluesKaj lets stop it now14:23
BluesKajohsix, I did read it hbtw , the samba option was neber mentioned , if you would have read it thoroughly14:23
Guest93845it seems to me, unfortunately that fan control is a case-by-case issue depending on your hardware14:23
ohsixbazhang: please review what he provided and speak to the situation14:24
Dr_WillisMB makers love to have their own fan control standards.14:24
Dr_Willismy AAO netbook needed some special deamon i recall.14:24
BluesKajbazhang, I'm being chatstized for suggesting viable options here14:24
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ohsixBluesKaj: try clicking on Places -> Connect to server, you'll find that it offeres "Windows share" among many options, they need not even know how it works or what its name is14:25
Guest93845Anyone newly logged on got a solution to this: GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash......14:25
robbit10!offtopic > robbit1014:25
ubotturobbit10, please see my private message14:25
Dr_WillisGuest93845:  are you using NFS?14:25
BluesKajbazhang, scuse the pun , chatstized :)14:26
Guest93845nope, I just logged into the server like "ssh -X myserver" and issued gedit14:26
ohsixGuest93845: did you mangle the distro to the degree that there is no gconf?14:26
xgt001Guest93845: i tried it14:26
xgt001but dint work sadly14:26
Guest93845ps -ef | grep gconf reveals to processes running14:26
BluesKajohsix, I'm on kde14:26
Dr_WillisGuest93845:  you may need to run some of the gnome-settings deamons.14:26
ohsixGuest93845: hm14:26
ohsixBluesKaj: my condolences14:26
Dr_Willisporg:  all i know on fan contrioll is it depends on the MB maker/chipset. and my AA1 needed a server to get it to have any controll.14:27
porgDr_Willis: So the preinstalled Ubuntu SW cannot handle it?14:28
Dr_Willisporg:  for 3 out of my 4 laptops. ive not needed to mess with fan speeds/controlls at all. they work fine out of the box.14:28
chalisthi all. i have a problem with apache. session_start() error. i think my apache have not permission to write. any body can help me how i can fix it?14:28
Dr_Willisporg:  it totally depends on the specific chipset/mb/pc.14:28
xgt001my problem is so weird..... the moment i take the power cord off it becomes innocently quiet!14:28
* DrManhattan clears his throat14:28
ohsixxgt001: it can be down to your bios/acpi situation14:29
Dr_Willisxgt001:  sounds like some powersaveing settings are incorrect.if it can in fact controll the fan sopeed.14:29
porgYes, but what would be the user interface for accessing these settings then? Is their a common abstraction GUI for this?14:29
ohsixxgt001: windows often just walks past those while linux actually trusts them to work to some degree14:29
ForceDestroyerOkay, how is it that I repeatedly feel like an idiot when trying anything... how do I flash my bios? Using Google repeatedly returns that I need a floppy drive... who the hell has a floppy drive these days?!? Ô_ô;14:29
ohsixxgt001: theres a fancontrol package you can look at the configuration of14:30
ForceDestroyerDoes the procedure depend on manufacturer, or is there some common tool to do it?14:30
Dr_Willis porg  thers always the various apci and /proc/* settng you can play with - if the gui dosent have settings for it. and theres numerous make/model specific tools14:30
ohsixForceDestroyer: you can make a cd or usb stick with dos on it to accomplish the same thing14:30
xgt001ohsix: can u pls tell the package14:30
shadow420!free-dos14:31
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  many MB's these days can read the new bios froma  flash drive. they dont even need to boot from a floppy.14:31
BluesKajForceDestroyer, what are you trying to do , first of all ?14:31
ohsixDr_Willis: more /sys as of late14:31
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  check your MB docs.14:31
NaseMkhow do i install my usb pc camera in ubuntu 10.1014:31
NaseMk?14:31
porg$ toshset returns: required kernel toshiba support not enabled.14:31
Dr_WillisNaseMk:  plug it in.. see if it works.14:31
Dr_WillisNaseMk:  install/run cheese. see if it works :)14:31
ohsixForceDestroyer: Dr_Willis is right, special name on cd or usb & holding a special key will do it for most things14:31
NaseMki did install cheese14:31
NaseMkbut does not work14:32
ohsixxgt001: fancontrol ...14:32
{C9}t00lsh3dThen your screwed.14:32
Guest93845a search for "fan control" in synaptic package manager lists a variety of packages that might be useful14:32
Dr_WillisIve heard of MB's that can even (somehow?) connect to the internet with no OS and update their bios. Not seen one of those yet.14:32
{C9}t00lsh3da lot of webcams don't seem to work :P lol14:32
Dr_WillisMost all webcam drivers have been done by a small set of coders. They can only do so much.14:32
porgI already searched for "toshiba, fan, control, etc" within Synaptic, and installed those CLI apps.14:32
porgAnd tried to run them.14:32
NaseMkso no sollution for my problem14:33
Dr_WillisI never noticed my Toshiba needing any special fan control stuff. but i work in a very noisy enviroment with it. so i souldent hear it if it was as loud as a lawnmower. :)14:33
chalisthi all. i have a problem with apache. session_start() error. i think my apache have not permission to write. any body can help me how i can fix it?14:33
NaseMkit is sonix web cam14:33
ohsixthe usb camera class ones work; and a lot of cameras are that14:33
Dr_WillisNaseMk:  check google and the forums. there may be some work arounds.14:33
porgacpitool -f    returns Fan :  on, not forced14:33
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shadow420porg get free-dos and install it onto a flash drive and put the bios flash onto it14:33
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NaseMkok Dr_Willis14:33
ForceDestroyerThe old BIOS indeed says something of the kind... but... lol I'll quote it: "Start Easy Flash / Doesn't support: CDROM / USB HDD / Secondary HDD"14:34
ohsixDr_Willis: those extra acpi modules are bound + pulled in by specific models; chances are you don't need one ... until you do :]14:34
porgshadow420: How would that help?14:34
Dr_Willisporg:  if your MB maker even has a 'dos' bios flash utility. see 'freedos'14:34
NaseMkthanks14:34
xgt001can we turn off the fan/ slow down the fan using acpi14:34
porgSo i need to alter the BIOS?14:34
BluesKajsometimes updating the bios breaks the system , ForceDestroyer , be careful14:34
porgIn order for this to work?14:34
ForceDestroyerWell, if I can't use USB, CD-ROM or the HDD slot, what CAN I use? -_-14:34
Dr_Willisporg:  thers often differnt apci/fancontrol settings in the bops's14:34
porgBut on windows proper power management and fan, already works14:35
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  elven magic?14:35
ForceDestroyerWell, the BIOS is official from ASUS, and I have enough trouble as is, it's worth a shot14:35
shadow420are you on a tower or laptop14:35
porgAnd I have looked at the fan settings within BIOS, and they seemed to be right14:35
ForceDestroyerBut. Yea. Elven magic? I do not understand, maybe USB HDD does not include smaller USB sticks?14:35
BluesKajForceDestroyer, were jujst trying change the boot sequence or ?14:35
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  some older pc's cant boot from flash. some have issues with some flash. CDROM should work.14:35
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* BluesKaj checks batteries in KB14:36
shadow420and make sure the flash drives mbr is setup right14:36
ForceDestroyerI can change the boot sequence, but what do I use to update BIOS then... the easy flash utility is started from within the BIOS14:36
porgSo what do you say regarding my fan noise on my Toshiba?14:36
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  if the bios has a flash utility. You just put the bios file on a usb stick. and use the utility... i think14:36
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  you dont boot from the flash.. the bios has it all built in.14:37
ForceDestroyerIt says "doesn't support USB HDD" ... maybe USB sticks don't count? I'll try it *shrugs*14:37
ohsixporg: "proper", by your own language you seem to prefer and use windows, do you need any help with ubuntu?14:37
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  theres BOOTING from the usb.. then theres the bios reading files from the usb to use to flash with.. 2 differnt thangs.14:38
Dr_WillisForceDestroyer:  if the bios cant read the flash. copy the file to a cd i guess.14:38
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ohsixxgt001: you can guide what acpi will do with the fan, but it cooperates with the actual cpu state & temperature, disabling it would be unwise, and a lot of work too ;]14:38
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chriseWhat is the current default filesystem for new Ubuntu 10.10 installations?14:39
porgext414:39
ohsixchrise: ext414:39
chriseThanks.14:39
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Dr_Willisive not heard much about that other FS. (btrfs?) in ages..14:40
porgohsix: I am a mac user by default. And I got a Windows laptop as a present, which I want to use with ubuntu, but I d prefer silent operation14:40
ForceDestroyeroh what lol14:40
Dr_Willisporg:  test it with a 11.04 live cd. if it has issues. be sure to file a bug on it.14:41
ForceDestroyerThe USB stick doesn't work, but some secret thing can read NTFS14:41
ForceDestroyerfrom the Hard drive. I think I can flash using that *shrugs*14:41
ohsixporg: like i suggested to xtg, you should check the actual temperatures, and if they're higher than normal find out why before you crowbar it off14:41
porgohsix: I ran acpitool, and even though it seems to have the setting most appropriate for silent operation (on, not forced) it is still too loud for my taste14:41
ohsixporg: unless you look more into the circumstances you'll probably have to get used to it14:42
Franticguys, should the integrated graphics on H67 boards work in 10.10?14:42
porgSo how far does the OS interfere with the fan settings, how far the firmware (BIOS?) ?14:43
ohsixFrantic: people won't know what that is :D do you mean intel/snb?14:43
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ohsixporg: try and rule out anything else first, or you are on a fools errand14:43
Franticyes, I mean the new Intel sandy bridge H67 mobos, which have on-CPU graphics. Should they work?14:43
porgCan the OS overrule its "subsystem's fan recommendation" hence overheat the CPU? Or will the subsystem defend itself against dangerous fan instruction from the OS?s14:44
Dr_WillisFrantic:  ive herad they can have some issues14:44
ohsixFrantic: yes, but in what capacity i do not know; expect to file bugs14:44
HeroinHey14:44
porgHeroin: On rehab?14:44
Dr_WillisI think with most new pc's the  hardware can prevent overheating14:44
ohsixporg: you overheat the system by doing work14:44
RobinHoodHowdy, I'm a noob at using window managers other than the default...I accidentally ran openbox-session from inside gnome, and nothing happened except that gnome got awfully sluggish. Now, in GDM (appropriately named, incidentally, considering it's pretty close to the swear word I've been using for the past two days) ...in GDM, there's no GNOME option like there used to be -- it changed to GNOME/Openbox, which still uses metacity14:45
RobinHood-- and openbox is constantly running, being killed, and respawning in the background.  Any ideas on how to get back to using metacity by default?14:45
porgOr by not giving proper cooling14:45
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ohsix2004+ intel processors have 2 thermal throttling modes, but you don't even ge4t to think about them unless there are other, multiple failures14:45
FranticI have just installed a few systems on H67 and the max resolution I can get is 1280xXXX, while I can understand this, I can't seem to find too much chatter or solutions for this on google. So I'm wandering, do they usually work but with bugs, or are people just ignoring them?14:45
frank_I'm having a network problem. Yesterday, my wired internet connection worked fine. Today, the network manager says eth0 is disconnected. I can't find anything addressing it in the forums (Ubuntu 10.1)14:46
frank_any help would be appreciated14:46
ohsixFrantic: check dmesg for invalid edid information messages14:46
Koritsahello, is theres a way to run my allready installed ubuntu inside my vista?14:46
dirkGneed a syntax check here:  sudo ddrescue -r 3 /dev/sda /dev/sdb/disk_image.img /dev/sdb/rescue_log.txt    .   i'm running it off a livedvd, sda is bad drive, sdb is good external.  or is it sda1 and sdb1 ?  both only have the one partition....14:46
ohsixFrantic: if present & valid the native modes should be used immediately and automatically14:46
Franticohsix: will check, thanks14:47
ohsixdirkG: you need to mount sdb, then use the path where its mounted14:47
dirkGhow would that look?14:47
sipiorfrank_: you can't reselect it in the Network Manager applet? is the cable seated properly, at both ends?14:48
ohsixdirkG: you also want to do udisks --inhibit before you plug in the bad drive; so nothing tries to read/mount it14:48
dirkGi'm getting i/o errors on bad drive... would i still need to do the udisks --inhibit?14:48
ohsixdirkG: in summary, clean boot, plug in sdb, open it in nautilus to see where it mounts in /media; run udisks --inhibit in a console, plug in the bad drive14:48
dirkGok14:48
frank_sipior: I've checked the connections a dozen times, everything looks good. When I click on Network Manager "Wired Connection" is grey and says "disconnected"14:49
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ohsixyes, if its getting mounted or read it could cause futher damage, and what you are copying could be changing while you do it14:49
sipiorfrank_: what does ifconfig report?14:49
frank_sipior: the wired connection works fine on the laptop (which I'm using now14:49
frank_)14:49
ohsixwhich is _bad_ ;]14:49
hikenboothello i am trying to get the terminal server client to connect with rdp 5.1 to a windows server 2008 R2 terminal server it keeps giving me unable to connect error the same laptop is able to connect when booted to windows using the windows terminal server program ...anyone know why?14:49
porglearner has recommended powersaved14:49
porgMaybe a good daemon for power management14:50
porgI ll have to look into this.14:50
ohsixporg: don't try any of those extra daemons until you figure the temperatture thing out14:50
ForceDestroyerThe bios flash utility sees the file, but immediately says "Read File Error!loading and validating BIOS binary file..." with the loading message blinking and the error message just sinning there...14:50
porgohsix: What shall I figure out? My current CPU load and temperature sensor data?14:51
ohsixporg: at best they'll interfere with the magic that happens with the default software, and only hack around the problem14:51
ForceDestroyer*sitting14:51
porgohsix: Did not quite understand you, back then.14:51
hikenbootForceDestroyer: is the file read only perhaps14:51
ohsixporg: the thermal zones for the fan that is loud and what the temperature zone is for (presumably cpu & chipset, which would have separate temperatures)14:51
ohsixForceDestroyer: probably wrong name / wrong file for your board14:52
ForceDestroyerhikenboot: it's on an NTFS partition... I got the file in a zip from ASUS... wat14:52
frank_sipior: ifconig: eth0: link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 18:a9:05:1f:21:cd, UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metrick:1, RX packets: 0errors: 0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0, TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0, collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000, RX bytes:0 (0, 0 B) TX bytes: 0 (0, 0 B), Interrupt: 42 Base address 0xe00014:52
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porgXsensors tells me 57 Celsius14:52
Jafarhi ! is it possible to repackage his own Ubuntu based distro by specifiny automatically the mount tables?14:52
ForceDestroyerIt's a laptop, they only provide this file for the laptop... weirf14:52
ForceDestroyer*weird14:52
porgohsix: Where can I read this data?14:53
sipiorfrank_: odd that it's not running. try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up", and then "sudo dhclient eth0".14:53
ohsixporg: been a while, i'm looking14:53
porgohsix: Thank u very much!14:53
hikenbootsorry without being there i cant tell you why...excpet that maybe its not made for that system perhaps its miss posted call the support channel for the laptop...they would surely be able to help14:53
hikenbootanyone have an idea about my problem14:54
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porghikenboot: Was this addressed towards me?14:54
ohsixporg: /sys/devices/virtual/thermal and thats also where the knobs are if you were to change the thermal zones or fan behaviour14:54
hikenbootno ForceDestroyer14:55
ohsixporg: its a bit incomprehensible & assumes a bit about knowing what a thermal zone is and stuff; i can't remember the name of the make-nice tool14:56
frank_sipior: I ran both commands, "sudo dhclient eth0"  did a bunch of DHCPDISCOVER's to 255.255.255.255, then said, "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping."14:56
porgI do not even know what this directory structure is. Is it a mapping to a device?14:57
ohsixporg but linux takes the bios&acpi's word for things, if the idle temp & default values say fan on then fan is on14:57
sipiorfrank_: just assign an address manually.14:57
ohsixporg: several; one sec14:57
frank_sipior: how do I do that?14:57
sipiorfrank_: sorry, try "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" (or whatever is appropriate for your network)14:57
porgohsix: Ok, to go into private chat for this, to not pollute the pubchat?14:59
frank_sipior: I did it, nothing seems to have happened14:59
dirkGohsix, if sdb (the good, external drive) is registered as /media/disk  then i'll use /media/disk/disk_image.img for the destination of ddrescue?14:59
dirkGafter the udisks --inhibit of course14:59
lariouswhat is different between open jre and sun jre14:59
sipiorfrank_: does ifconfig report the new address correctly?14:59
hikenbootubuntu 10.10 does not have a built in firewall ...is this correct?14:59
craigbass1976I'm trying to get perl running on a LAMP (with php) server.  Is this the best way? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-apache2-webserver-with-phpcgi-and-perl-support-in-ubuntu-server.html14:59
sipiorhikenboot: no, it's not.14:59
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ohsixdirkG: sounds right, put the .log with the image too15:00
BluesKaj!jre | larious15:01
ubottularious: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.15:01
bastidrazor!firewall | hikenboot15:01
ubottuhikenboot: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.15:01
ohsixporg: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt;h=b61e46f449aa1e0bf376de21ddf2eec55c196a39;hb=HEAD#l15215:01
craigbass1976!perl15:01
Jafarhi ! is it possible to repackage his own Ubuntu based distro by specifiny automatically the mount tables?15:02
dalekleaderdoes home encryption only work if home is on it's own partition?15:02
ohsixporg: that should suffice for reading and changing the settings, i'll keep looking for the tool that makes this less ugly15:02
porgohsix: Thanks. I ll read that. But before that a question. Is this the interface for accessing fan control? (Not very GUI user friendly...)15:02
ohsixporg: you haven't changed the cpu governor or pinned it to an operating speed have you?15:03
porgohsix: I would not even know how...15:03
ohsixporg: it controls the thermal zones and the cooling devices for those zones; so yes15:03
porgohsix: I know nothing about Ubuntu and power management so far...15:03
ohsixporg: well if you don't know then you probably haven't ;]15:03
sipior!paste > frank_15:04
ubottufrank_, please see my private message15:04
porgohsix: Is there no easier way...? I really should spend mz time differently. Reading hours of manpages, complicatedly accessing settings through  /sys/devices, all this only for power management... Is there no easier way?15:05
ohsixporg: the important reason to look here is because it expresses almost directly what the bios/acpi says is the proper arrangement15:06
sr_hello15:06
JoeCoolDeskI'm trying to transfer friles from one machine to another over the network.  First attempt: SSH-FTP.  What's the default password for the liveCD?15:06
ohsixporg: well, there are easier ways but they wont find, and probably wont solve your problem15:06
bastidrazorJoeCoolDesk: there is no password on the liveCD15:07
ohsixJoeCoolDesk: there isn't one, and you won't be able to ssh without one, so set one :]15:07
craigbass1976JoeCoolDesk, I dont' think there is one.  I'm also pretty sure you'd have to first install openssh-server on the one giving out the files15:07
frank_sipior: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 18:a9:05:1f:21:cd15:08
frank_          inet addr:192.168.1.3  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.015:08
frank_          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:115:08
frank_          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:015:08
frank_          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:015:08
frank_          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100015:08
JoeCoolDeskI have installed openssh-server.  How do I cahnge the pass?15:08
frank_          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)15:08
Jafar:s15:08
frank_          Interrupt:42 Base address:0xe00015:08
uahow can i know if iam in 32b or 64b? thank you15:08
frank_lo        Link encap:Local Loopback15:08
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ohsixJoeCoolDesk: passwd15:08
sipiorfrank_: that's not a pastebin :-)15:08
Jafarhi ! is it possible to repackage his own Ubuntu based distro by specifiny automatically the mount tables?15:08
Raydiationwhy does apt-get update fail on lucid? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/i18n/Translation-de.bz215:08
JoeCoolDeskohsix, will try15:08
ohsixJoeCoolDesk: or the applet in the Administration menu15:08
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bastidrazorua: type uname -m15:08
ohsix(Users and Groups)15:08
Picifrank_: You didn't. Please paste your data on http://paste.ubuntu.com  and then give us the link15:08
sipiorJafar: the mount tables of what, exactly?15:09
terryfrank_: install pastebinit15:09
frank_sorry guys, here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589279/15:09
porgohsix: Ok, cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp  : 5700015:09
* alex88 nice to have ignored joins/part in this chan xD15:09
Jafarsipior: then the user boots on my own cd, it creates the partitions as I specified (for example 5GB for /, 1GB for swap etc..) without asks the user15:10
ohsixporg: its important to remember that you shouldn't ever be expected to be looking at, or messing with this; but bios bugs exist15:10
porgThe same what the GUI Xsensors reports15:10
sipiorfrank_: odd that the interface is not running. do you happen to have another network interface on that machine?15:10
ohsixporg: you're interested in the trip points and what they do with the cdevs (cooling devices)15:10
porgohsix: So is 57 C enough that this fan rotates like an aircraft???15:10
sipiorfrank_: also, is it possible to ping that interface from the machine itself (ping 192.168.1.3)15:11
Dr_Willisporg:  that # may not be a direct Degrees C reading.15:11
terryfrank_: is that the server or the client?15:11
bastidrazorporg: 57C is fairly warm.. i wouldn't want a box running that hot. a gpu maybe but not processor15:12
terryfrank_: never mind.... wrong nic15:12
porgDr_Willis: But very likely, would be to much of a coincidence that the /device stuff and xsensors read not both 5715:12
frank_sipior: no other interfaces on the machine. I just had it ping itself and it seems to be endlessly pinging15:12
frank_sipior: the pings are just scrolling through the terminal window15:13
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sipiorfrank_: that's good. now, let's get your route set up.15:13
porgOk, now I know the temp is 57, and you say that the fan runs for a good reason, so next step is to determine why it gets that hot.15:13
ohsixporg: look at this for an example of what i mean;  "passive" is when my fan is off http://paste.ubuntu.com/589280/15:13
porgAnd look at the system load15:13
sipiorfrank_: what's the address of your router on this network?15:13
ohsixporg: yep :] it is a good reason15:13
ohsixbut at 57 mine would still be passive, given my example15:13
porgCPU runs between 10 and 20 percent15:13
terryfrank_: Ctrl-c  to stop the pinging15:14
ohsixporg: that is a LOT15:14
frank_sipior: not sure abou tthe address of the router15:14
terryfrank_: route -n15:14
frank_terry: thanks for the tip15:14
terryfrank_: route -n  | pastebinit15:14
ohsixporg: install htop (sudo apt-get install htop) then run it and sort by cpu usage (F6 then pick cpu%)15:15
sipiorfrank_: does "ping 192.168.1.1" return anything?15:15
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frank_destination: 192.168.1.0, gateway:0.0.0.0, Genmask: 255.255.255.0, Flags: U, Metric: 0, Ref: 0, Use Iface: 0 eth015:15
ohsixporg: this is also from a terminal, you could use System Monitor if you wish15:15
terrysipior: Yes, he said it pings itself fine.15:15
sipiorterry: 192.168.1.1 is not "itself".15:15
ohsixporg: System -> Administration -> System Monitor15:16
porgohsix: System monitor processes sorted by CPU usage give firefox 5%, and the monitor itself 8%15:16
terrysipior: Ok yea I see.15:16
frank_sipior / terry: seems to be able to ping itself15:16
ohsixporg: do you have like an old 1.2ghz pentium-m?15:16
porgohsix: wait a momemt, i ll determine15:16
ohsixthanks15:17
frank_sipior: when I ran route -n the destination was: 192.168.1.015:17
porgohsix: m processor 2 ghz15:17
sipiorfrank_: does 192.168.1.1 answer?15:17
terryfrank_: What is the gateway IP address?15:17
porgohsix: Thanks for all this detailed assessment, but i think it's going into the wriong direction15:17
ohsixporg: ok, so that is still high but not alarming, your cpu might be running at its lowest speed; since it changes to suit the load15:17
frank_sipior: gateway said: 0.0.0.015:18
ohsixporg: do you use flashblock?15:18
porgohsix: Right15:18
sipiorfrank_: does 192.168.1.1 answer?15:18
terrysipior: He said it pinged.15:18
porgohsix: Please stop all this details. I can assure you. Even when the laptop is totally idle, the fan runs wild.15:18
frank_no15:18
sipiorterry: he did not. stop confusing the issue. you're in the way.15:19
porgohsix: I certainly value your kind effort! I do not want to be inpolite!15:19
ohsixporg: or does firefox take more than 60% of the physical memory of the machine in the output of smem (you'll need to install that too)15:19
porgohsix: But let s speed evaluation up a bit.15:19
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Dr_Willisporg:  how old is this laptop anyway?15:19
ouyesis there any fast file search tool? the tool comes with the distro is too slow15:19
porgohsix: 5 years15:19
IronHalikhow can i supply my ssh connection via terminal any different username then my ubuntu box username? :>15:19
popeyssh user@host15:19
IronHalikah got it15:19
IronHalikthx15:19
popeynp15:19
Dr_Willisouyes:  locate - is  commonly used15:19
pcpowerfind / -name 'somefile'   is as fast as you're probably going to get15:20
Pici!netsplit15:20
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit15:20
sipiorthis is getting decidedly tedious.15:20
pcpowerwithout a database (ala locate)15:20
Jafarhi ! is it possible to repackage his own Ubuntu based distro by specifiny automatically the partitions (size) ?15:20
ohsixporg: if firefox is usin that much cpu you have a huge session & not much memory for it, or something else is going on; firefox can keeo your hd awake & active quite a bit in that situation too; raising hd & overall system temperature15:20
frank_sipior: 192.168.1.1 does not answer15:20
Dr_Willisouyes:  depends on what you are searching for and how often the 'fileysstem' changes. :)15:20
Dr_Willispcpower:  time to use find then.15:20
sipiorfrank_: thank you. could you pastebin "arp -a"?15:21
terryfrank_: what is listed as a gateway address?15:21
frank_sipior: 192.168.1.0 (the destination in route -n) does not answer either15:21
trancegeekdoes the aero-like window snapping that ubuntu 11.04 has work in 10.10?15:21
sipiorfrank_: sorry, make that "arp -an"15:21
frank_terry: gateway address is: 0.0.0.015:21
trancegeeki believe it's a feature of one of the recent versions of gnome, so i guess i'm asking if 10.10 has that version of gnome yet15:21
sipiorfrank_: 192.168.1.0 is not a host address, i didn't expect an answer :-)15:21
Dr_Willistrancegeek:  i think its tecnically a compiz setting/feature. so in theory you could get it going in 10.1015:21
ohsixporg: well the laborous discovery is just so you see what i was considering when you were wondering what it was and waxing idiotic about powersaved and ubuntu "the OS" bing a problem :P15:21
porgohsix: firefox does not constantly use 9%. Mostly 0, only occasionally jumpts to 9%15:21
trancegeekdr_willis, i don't have compiz15:21
ohsixporg: ok15:21
Dr_Willistrancegeek:  i dident notice it working when  i had compiz disabled.15:21
trancegeekat least i don't think i do, and if i do, i haven't set it up15:21
terryfrank_: that is not a valid gateway address.  Look again.15:21
JoeCoolDeskohsix, had to create a new user to have a password, but that worked.15:21
terryfrank_: Bottom line.15:21
terryfrank_: route -n15:22
ohsixJoeCoolDesk: weird, but ok, i had no problem settin the pass for "ubuntu" last time i needed to do it, but that might have changed15:22
porgohsix: I think it is much more related to the setting balance between endurance/performance15:22
trancegeekhow would i check if compiz is installed? i'm on a pretty clean version of 11.0415:22
trancegeeki know i didn't install or configure it, and i haven't seen the menus that are normally there, nor do i have restricted drivers enabled15:23
popeytrancegeek: 11.04 comes with compiz, but you could "dpkg -l "*compiz*"15:23
Dr_Willistrancegeek:  its installed by default. and used by default if you ot hte drivers setup. See #ubuntu+115:23
trancegeekso i have a feeling it's part of gnome15:23
terryfrank_: What happens when you run dhclient eth0  ?15:23
porgohsix: which under windows with toshiba s utilitys can easily be set, and the noise reduction can be heard immediately15:23
ohsixporg: those are windows terms they made up to gloss over their power management settings :\15:23
ohsixthe toshiba utility might be lowering the cpu voltage too15:23
trancegeekmy question isn't about 11.04 though really, otherwise i'd ask in +115:23
terry frank_ sudo dhclient eth015:23
popeytrancegeek: it's installed by default, you have it whether you're running unity or not15:24
trancegeekok popey15:24
trancegeekidc about compiz really15:24
Dr_Willistrancegeek:  disable compiz/ see if it still works..15:24
BluesKajJoeCoolDesk, I'm  considering doin the same  ..so you're saying the existing pw on the source drive wasn't acceptable ?15:24
ohsixporg: momento, there are ways to tell the cpu governor to do what you ask as a tradeoff for performance15:24
trancegeeki just want to know if the aero-like window snapping that works in 11.04 by default works in 10.10 now, whether with compiz, gnome, or whatever enables it, and i don't want the hacked together way that's on ubuntu forums, that one didn't work well for me15:24
frank_sipior / terry: I'm dumping all that into a pastebin, one sec15:25
porgohsix: Yes, no we are going into the direction...15:25
Jafarhi ! is it possible to repackage his own Ubuntu based distro by specifiny automatically the partitions (size) ?15:25
porgohsix: eventually!15:25
Dr_Willistrancegeek:  its a feature that i imagine is not going to get backported any time soon.  so i would say 'no'15:25
ohsixtrancegeek: i did not see the plugin to do that on 10.1015:25
trancegeeki see15:25
trancegeekdarn15:25
trancegeeklol15:25
ohsixtrancegeek: on 11.04 it was added to the snap plugin15:25
Dr_Willistrancegeek:  You could perhaps find updated/ppa/backports of compiz and gnome for  the older release that have the feature.15:25
trancegeeki see15:25
CombatjuanI'd like some help building a .deb.  I'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete.  But the .deb I create doesn't appear to contain the actual files (it's too small).15:26
trancegeeki guess i'd rather stay on 11.0415:26
trancegeekjust want to use classic instead of unity15:26
ohsixit might be in 10.10 but i def overlooked, install compizconfig-settings-manager and look around15:26
sipiorJafar: you'll want preseeding. have a look here for examples: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/powerpc/appendix-preseed.html15:26
Dr_Willistrancegeek:  i imagine there will be a LOT of people that perfer the classic.15:26
PiciCombatjuan: Try #ubuntu-packaging for packaging specific help :)15:27
yura__any 8-16 bit radio stream for 64kbs?/mobile15:27
CombatjuanPici: Awesome.  Thanks.15:27
ohsixporg: have you tried powertop? it tells you whats waking up the cpu & what voltage / p/c-state the cpu is in15:27
Jafarsipior: thx for the clue15:27
PiciCombatjuan: Its not as busy as here, but you're more likely to have your question answered.15:27
frank_sipior / terry: Here's the pastebin address: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589284/15:27
trancegeekyeah willis15:27
ohsixDr_Willis: unity is a bit better than the old netbook stuff with maximus :P15:27
trancegeeki liked unity at first15:27
trancegeekbut...15:27
trancegeekidk15:27
frank_sipior: arp -an didn't seem to do anything15:28
trancegeekit's too clunky?15:28
sipiorfrank_: you have other machines on this network?15:28
Dr_Willisohsix:  thats like saying   the a broken leg is better then a broken arm. :)15:28
rigvedhi everyone...can anyone tell me how to make a 3g call using the PC, which is connected to a 3g network via a 3g data card? is there some software available for this?15:28
trancegeekdr_willis, no15:28
trancegeekit's more like saying a broken arm is better than a broken leg15:28
frank_sipior: the computer I'm using now is running through the same router. Usually, I don't use a router, I plug the desktop directly into the cable modem. I just set up the router so I coudl troubleshoot15:29
trancegeekbecause a broken leg is worse than a broken arm in my eyes, but it still sucks15:29
shadow420I am trying to setup a mailserver using postfix/dovecot but when I telnet into it and test it and don't see auth login and auth=login any ideas?15:29
* Dr_Willis breaks a move.15:29
sipiorfrank_: get the network information from the computer you're using now.15:29
porgohsix: It all leads to nothing. The same I tried back on the MacBookPro, which has far more processing power. Really this evaluation is tiring me. I am close to give up, and just accept the truth to me that Ubuntu is quite nice for many thing, but regaridngg supporting individual computers specific power settings, it s a pain in the ar**15:29
frank_will do15:29
sipiorfrank_: the 192.168.1/24 network is clearly not correct.15:29
ohsixporg: well this toshiba tool could be doing a lot of things, you'll need to approximate whatever it _is_ doing to expect the same15:30
porgohsix: There is no workload problem. I tell you that my suspicion is that the fan runs far faster than what would be necesarry, and that I only want to set some limit values eomwhere.15:30
terridHi all15:30
abahkaiyisahhi terrid15:31
frank_sipior: how do I fix that?15:31
ohsixporg: those limits are in the thermal zone trip points for "passive" and the zone above it15:31
Evanescencehow to install package live-initramfs ; I can not find it in apt-get15:31
sipiorfrank_: still waiting on the network information from your current machine.15:31
terridI have just tried to downgrade my PHP version from 5.3 to 5.2 using the script here: http://mrkandy.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/install-php-5-2-x-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/15:31
ohsixporg: but those thermal zones are picked by the manufacturer, it would not be wise to change them for this15:31
abahkaiyisahhow can , internet reach my virtual box server15:31
porgohsix: toshset  returned: required kernel toshiba support not enabled.15:31
ente1hey,  (ubuntu 8.04) "/etc/init.d/networking restart" throws me an error "/etc/init.d/ntp: 76: cannot open /dev/console: Permission denied" -  to restart the ntp process directly is possible - any idea, why the error occurs?15:31
ohsixporg: toshset does other things15:31
terryfrank_: It is possible you have a hardware problem.  Is the cat5 cable ok?15:32
terridbut whenever i try using apt-get i get the following error: E: Invalid record in the preferences file /etc/apt/preferences.d/php, no Package header15:32
terriddoes anyone have any ideas?15:32
porgSo maybe the kernel or its extension need some toshiba specific modification?15:32
ohsixporg: powertop will tell you why its not at the lowest voltage/frequency15:32
frank_sipior: pastebin for working computer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589288/15:32
laszlokAnyone know what community members are supposed to put under "Who is your attendance requested by" for registering for UDS?15:32
frank_sipior: i've tried more than one cable, none work15:32
terryfrank_: How are you connected to this machine?15:32
porgohsix: ok, i ll give that a try. would be impolite not to take your greatful help15:33
shadow42085hey I am trying to setup a mailserver using postfix/dovecot and i can't seam to set auth login and auth=login in telnet showing up15:33
ohsixporg: no, you'd change the frequency governor to do what that toshiba tool does, but it will not lower the voltage; you need to look for another tool to do that15:33
Picilaszlok: I don't remember that field, you may want to try asking in #ubuntu-community-team15:33
laszlokthanks Pici15:33
porgohsix: generous i meant15:33
sipiorfrank_: well, the network information looks fine here. leaning towards a problem with the card itself, i'm afraid.15:33
alex88Evanescence: ubuntu version?15:34
frank_terry: The problem computer (desktop) is usually plugged into the cable modem. Since it's not working, I set up a router and plugged my laptop into it, so both machines could be wired at the same time15:34
Evanescencealex88: yes15:34
frank_sipior: it worked fine yesterday, any idea what could have caused that?15:34
Evanescencealex88: Is there other way to install this package ?15:34
alex88Evanescence: no, sorry..what's the ubuntu version? :)15:34
ohsixporg: i don't think you can undervolt without a kernel patch to do it :[15:35
shadow42085hey I am trying to setup a mailserver using postfix/dovecot and i can't seam to set auth login and auth=login in telnet showing up15:35
frank_sipior: when I plug a the cable into the ethernet port in the computer, the green light on the ethernet card comes on, it seems to know there's a wire in there, but Ubuntut doesn't get the message15:35
terryfrank_: So the laptop is connecting to the internet and you are on it now?15:35
Evanescencealex88: 10.1015:35
frank_terry: yes15:35
sipiorfrank_: ethernet cards usually have a very long life, but dodgy power could cause problems. also, have you checked that the card is seated firmly in its slot?15:35
febinyes15:35
LeaoXam not connecting ?15:35
shadow42085hey I am trying to setup a mailserver using postfix/dovecot and i can't seam to get auth login and auth=login in telnet to show up  any ideas?15:36
frank_sipior: haven't checked the card's slot yet15:36
JoeCoolDeskBluesKaj, I'm using a LiveCD to access a dual boot system.  The default user on the livecd wasn't workign so I created a new one with a password which I used to SSH into.15:36
porgohsix: powertop output http://paste.ubuntu.com/589289/15:36
sipiorfrank_: ah, the connection light is blinking. hmm, so much for that theory.15:36
terryfrank_: And you can connnect to the other computer from the laptop?15:36
alex88Evanescence: maverick right?15:36
Evanescencealex88: yes15:36
MoMo2I have a large amount of .rar archives.  Is there a way to enumerate all their contents into a file so i can see everything that is archived, but not actually unpack anything?15:36
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porgohsix: Shall I run the test over a longer interval?15:37
niles|iPodMoMo2: Dont use rar :)15:37
frank_terry: I havn't tried to connect to the other computer with the laptop, I just plugged it into the router so I could get online15:37
MoMo2=P15:37
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alex88http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=live-initramfs you're true..there is no package only in maverick.. you shuold try lucid and if don't work try natty15:37
alex88package version15:37
ohsixporg: ok, it probably should run a bit longer to get more accurate statistics15:37
ayecee_MoMo2: rar/unrar almost certainly has a "test" option that will show the contents and verify the package integrity, does that help?15:37
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MoMo2ayecee_: i might be able to make some magic from that -- thx15:38
BluesKajJoeCoolDesk,  ok thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll keep that in mind when I backup my /home dir when I have to install W7.15:38
meganerdMoMo2: from the command line "for each in *.rar ; do unrar l "$each" >> list_of_files.txt ; done"15:38
ente1hey,  (ubuntu 8.04) "/etc/init.d/networking restart" throws me an error "/etc/init.d/ntp: 76: cannot open /dev/console: Permission denied" -  to restart the ntp process directly is possible - any idea, why the error occurs?15:38
terryfrank_: How were you able to send this info?:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/589279/  &  http://paste.ubuntu.com/589284/15:38
frank_using the laptop15:38
Evanescencealex88: I do not know, just install that package15:38
MoMo2meganerd, lol you took all the fun out of it -- nice fu though15:38
ohsixporg: try powertop -d -t 120, it will wait for 2 minutes then generate a report15:39
frank_terry: my laptop is plugged into the router right now. I usually don't use a router, I just go straight from the cable modem to the desktop15:39
Evanescencealex88: why different ubuntu version has different package version ?15:39
porgohsix: I did -t 60 but the bastard ignored my argument and simply used the defauolt 5 sec, but i try again with -d15:39
ohsixente1: the user you're restarting it from apparently can't access the console; or ntp as its user cant15:39
Dr_Willisente1:  try using the 'service' command. not the init.d/ method15:40
meganerdMoMo2: that assumed that all rar files are in the same directory, an alternative approach would be to use find: "find /path/to/search/ -iname \*.rar -exec unrar l \{\} >> /path/to/index.txt \;"15:40
porgohsix: Test runs, while this I only use that chat and open/close some tabs15:40
porgohsix: Looking fwd to that stats15:41
alex88Evanescence: that's normal..older ubuntu version doesn't use lastest packages.. just if needed by security.. just download the lucid one and try..why you need that?15:41
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meganerdMoMo2: heh, I spend a lot of time in the CLI.  You can take it a lot further if you want some fun :)15:41
MoMo2meganerd: this worked awesome -- i aspire to have your skills, mine would have looked worse15:42
Evanescencealex88: I am searching some package about initram , then install them , then check the dependence15:42
BluesKajDr_Willis, for some reason the service command won't work with my wsb wifi adapter, but the init.d does15:42
meganerdMoMo2: just lots of practice, nothing magical.  I have had a Unix CLI since '94...15:42
alex88Evanescence: you can just click to the distro in that page and see the deps15:42
PiciEvanescence: live-initramfs is a virtual package,15:42
BluesKajwsb=usb15:42
ohsixporg: even with that small sample, it's pointing at the lack of undervolting :\15:43
EvanescencePici: what is that ? virtual package ?15:43
alex88Pici: why it's included in all distro but not in maverick?15:43
Picialex88: I don't know.15:43
ente1Dr_Willis: "-bash: service: command not found" ;-) its ubuntu 8.0415:43
frank_sipior / terry: any other ideas? is there any way to just reset all of Ubuntu's network connections entirely?15:43
meganerdMoMo2: one thing to remember is that that the >> just appends to the text file, if you are putting this into a cronjob, you may want to zero out the file or move it out of the way.  There are lots of examples on the net for this.15:43
Evanescencealex88: that package is included at other distro ?15:44
MoMo2yeah i just got to get the for loops -- i really blame lack of projects =P15:44
ohsixalex88: all ubuntu distros? or what, you can probably find the reason it was removed in its removal request, you might have to go to debians BTS to find it15:44
frank_is there any way to reset all of Ubuntu's network connections?15:45
benzaldehydefrank_: maybe /etc/inti.d/networking restart15:45
benzaldehyde*init.d15:45
frank_benzaldehyde: thanks15:45
benzaldehydefrank_: your welcome15:46
benzaldehyde*you're15:46
VilinyHello, is it possible to flip a 32-bit ubuntu installation into using 64 bits? like replacing all applications with 64 ones and flipping the kernel?15:46
BluesKajfrank_, just curious , what kind of wifi device are using for your internet interface with the laptop ?15:46
nascentmindHi. How do I make fluxbox get the background set by styles? Right now I am getting the background set by kdm.15:46
sipiorfrank_: out of curiosity, have you tried plugging the cable that is currently plugged in to your desktop, into your laptop?15:46
sipiorViliny: not easily, i'm afraid. vastly simpler to install again.15:47
frank_sipior: yes, I tried that, didn't work15:47
Vilinyalright, thank you sipior15:47
porgohsix: The test run into the terminal stdout, the buffer to small to read all, so currently i repeat, and redirect output to a file15:47
sipiorfrank_: ah, that's interesting! are there multiple ports on this router of yours?15:47
ohsixporg: ok15:47
frank_BluesKaj: right now I'm using a wired connection. The wireless card in the laptop is whatever came with it. It's a Dell E170515:47
porgohsix: some patience, soon finished15:47
frank_sipior: yes15:47
sipiorfrank_: try another one :-)15:48
sipiorfrank_: or have you done already?15:48
porgohsix: Stats are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589297/15:48
terryfrank_: So you are connecting to the internet via wifi?  (on the laptop?)15:48
alex88ohsix: well it's included in pre-maverick and natty..15:48
alex88Evanescence: it is in debian15:48
alex88afaik15:48
ohsixalex88: in sid?15:49
Evanescencealex88: Oho.... So can I download it with *.deb , then install it in ubuntu ? then apt-get build-deb live-initramfs to complete the dependence ?15:49
porgohsix: Interesting suggestions from powertop...15:50
ohsixEvanescence: not a good idea ...15:50
BluesKajfrank_, no I mean to what wifi device is the laptop wifi connecting ?15:50
ohsixporg: you can't trust the suggestionis from powertop 1.x much anymore15:50
terryfrank_: What kind of rotuer is it?  Is the cable modem plugged into the router's WAN port?  Is the router conneced to a wireless router?  Is this another wireless router? Or YOURS?15:50
Evanescenceohsix: so tar.gz ? do you have some good idea ?15:50
alex88Evanescence: sure, in that page i've linked you, you can download the deb after selecting ubuntu version and architecture..15:50
alex88ohsix: dunno..probably..i haven't searched.. it's Evanescence that need it :)15:50
MarconMhow i can to be invited to channel #openbox ??15:51
ohsixalex88: right, i was speaking to finding out why it disappeared :]15:51
porgohsix: Ok, what essence do you read from this report?15:51
ohsixalex88: which was your query15:51
ohsixporg: sec,15:51
porgohsix: What must we change to have less fan noise?15:51
porgohsix: Ok, I wait.15:51
alex88ohsix: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=live-initramfs15:53
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porgohsix: You are a nice person! Btw is "ohsix" a phonetic alias to "(Mac) OS X" ?15:53
Kartagis!find telnet15:53
ohsixporg: thats a lot of syslog writes for the test period, but that all looks fine15:53
ubottuFound: libnet-telnet-perl, telnet, dcap-tunnel-telnet, heimdal-clients, heimdal-servers, inetutils-telnet, inetutils-telnetd, krb5-clients, krb5-telnetd, libnet-telnet-cisco-perl (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=telnet&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all15:53
terryI think we lost frank  He is probably plugging things in differently.  I think his problem is that he did not have things plugged in right.15:53
porgohsix: It is a fresh ubuntu install with almost no sw additions so far (only vlc, smartmontools, some games)15:54
ohsixporg: nah, my old nick was O_6, like a face; when i started using multiple irc clients while i was transitioning to screen/BX (irc client) i needed an alternate name, this is less confusing and people can actually say it one way15:54
frank_sipior: i was just disconnected, so I missed anything you might have said, could you repost?15:54
sipiorfrank_: hadn't said anything. have you tried using another router port?15:55
frank_sipior: yes and I also tried going directly from the modem to the computer15:55
ohsixporg: i think any real temperature difference is in that toshiba tool undervolting the cpu; which is a dead end :\15:55
terryfrank_: What kind of rotuer is it?  Is the cable modem plugged into the router's WAN port?  Is the router conneced to a wireless router?  Is this another wireless router? Or YOURS?15:55
porgohsix: Nice nick. Ok, back to the topic.15:55
ohsixporg: can you paste the output of tail -f 100 /var/log/syslog to a pastebin?15:55
BBgamerHey, can i get some help here?15:56
andrey_woodhi Guys, i would need an advice. I have a script running on ubuntu that generates a 6 digit number each minute, trying to find a way to make this number available for some users who are not in my network, was thinking on posting on dpaste or similar service but did not find one that can have a static url and be updatable. also was thinking of a mailbox to send this number but have no configured mailserver in the environment. any 15:56
frank_terry: right now, the cable modem is plugged into the router (a Linksys BEFSR41), and both comptuers are plugged into the router15:56
terryfrank_: You need to describe the connections and equipment that you have.  It is possible that you have something miss-configured in the netwrok connections.15:56
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BBgamerAnyone?15:56
BBgamerWell15:56
ohsixporg: er not -f, sec15:57
sipiorBBgamer: we're waiting to hear a question, i believe.15:57
* alex88 *facepalm*15:57
ohsixporg: tail -n 10015:57
frank_terry: yesterday it all worked fine, suddenly today it doesn't work15:57
DJonesBBgamer: Ask your question, if somebody can help, they'll jump in if they've got time15:57
terryfrank_: But yet, the laptop is connected via wireless connection.  Right?15:57
ActionParsnipandrey_wood: could echo it to a file, then rsync it to the users needing it. Or you could use dropbox ;)15:57
frank_terry: no wireless. The laptop is wired into the router15:57
porgohsix: already encountered the error, was looking in manopage for correct arg, thx 4 ur hint15:57
frank_terry: I don't have a wireless connection here15:57
terryfrank_: Oh ok15:57
Krupteinwhat's the best:  upgrading to the ubuntu beta now and then update any additional packages afterwards or waiting for the official to be released somewhere today?15:58
andrey_wood<ActionParsnip> tnx will give it a try ))15:58
PolahGet latest stable and upgrade to 11.04 when it is release15:58
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BBgamerI am currently running Ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop PC, and sometimes when I reboot, I can see all local networks except mine. It sometimes sees it if I keep waiting for a while, but not instantly. (About 5 mins).15:58
terryfrank_: What is the laptop's IP information?  i.e. IP address, gateway, nameserver15:58
sipiorKruptein: unless you're planning on submitting bug reports, wait for the final version in a few weeks.15:58
Krupteinhm okay15:58
frank_terry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589288/15:58
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porgohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589300/15:59
ohsixporg: ah-ha15:59
cipher_Is the ubuntu kernel still 100mhz?15:59
porgohsix: What is it? Found the troublemaker?15:59
BBgamerQuestion: I am currently running Ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop PC, and sometimes when I reboot, I can see all wireless networks except mine. When I first installed, it saw it every reboot, but now I have to wait 5 minutes or so just for Ubuntu to even see it in the first place. I have a Linksys WUSB54GS v2.15:59
ohsixporg: no solution to your temp problem, but that bluetooth message indicates another problem15:59
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alex88is just me or freenode is slow? after a bit of no msg i get lot of msg in few secs... or you guys just type at lightspeed? :)16:00
terryfrank_: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf16:00
cipher_alex88, yes it is16:00
Elfixalex88: seems freenode's been lagging for a few hours16:00
Picialex88: freenode is having some issues today.16:00
cipher_lol16:00
ohsixporg: postfix is also running commands fast enough, producing errors, that its restart is being throttled16:00
cipher_Well i just want to know if i can safely move to a 1000mhz kernel16:00
porgohsix: Let's focus on the fan issue16:00
benzaldehydefrank_: it's probably your internet service provider being picky about the MAC address, unplug the router and modem then put them together. sometimes i open up a firefox location directly to my router 192.168.1.1 change the MAC address, save, open up another tab to the modem 192.168.100.1 restart it and get a new ip, then go to your device sudo ifconfig eth0 up, sudo dhclient eth016:01
Picialex88: You may want to try re-connecting to get a better linked serve16:01
terryfrank_: Try this (on the PC with problem):  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.101 ;  ping -c 192.168.1.116:01
BBgamerQuestion: I am currently running Ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop PC, and sometimes when I reboot, I can see all wireless networks except mine. When I first installed, it saw it every reboot, but now I have to wait 5 minutes or so just for Ubuntu to even see it in the first place. I have a Linksys WUSB54GS v2.16:01
alex88Pici: i'll do thank you..16:01
porgohsix: Just want to remind you that this is a totally fresh Ubuntu, so all faults are there far all users! Not my custom fuckup...16:01
terryfrank_: Try this (on the PC with problem):  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.101 ;  ping -c 3 192.168.1.116:02
frank_terry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589304/16:02
porgohsix: BT is set to off in the menu bar icon16:02
BBgamerCan someone help me?16:02
terryfrank_: Sorry first one was typo16:02
ActionParsnipporg: are you fully updated?16:02
IdleOneporg: Please keep the language family friendly16:02
ActionParsnipBBgamer: when the wirelesses are finally availabel, run:  dmesg | tail     it may give clues16:03
porgohsix: If the backend fails, then that's not a "user land problem"16:03
ohsixporg: theres no postfix installed by default16:03
terryfrank_: Is your laptop connected to the cable modem?16:03
porgto all: Sorry for my inappropriate term usage... ;-) Back to Oxford English mode.16:03
BBgamerActionParsnip16:03
frank_terry: the laptop and the desktop are both plugged into the router16:03
BBgamerben@iforge-ubuntu:~$ dmesg | tail16:03
BBgamer[  831.515943] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Add. Sense: Incompatible medium installed16:03
BBgamer[  832.531491] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Unit Not Ready16:03
BBgamer[  832.616143] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Add. Sense: Incompatible medium installed16:03
BBgamer[  832.679621] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Unit Not Ready16:03
FloodBot2BBgamer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:03
BBgamer[  832.679624] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense Key : Medium Error [current]16:03
IdleOne!paste | BBgamer16:03
ubottuBBgamer: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:03
porgohsix: I m telling you, it s a fresh install, plus some very few additions.16:04
BBgamersorry ;d16:04
coz_porg,  what was the original issue?16:04
BBgamerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/589305/16:04
ActionParsnipBBgamer: is that immediately after the wireless access points become available?16:04
porgcoz_: Fan noise on Toshiba Tecra M316:04
BBgamerNo, I'm on my network now16:05
frank_terry: this may be a dumb question, but in my network manager, my wired connection is labeled as: "Auto eth0", but I've been running these commands with eth0, would that make a difference?16:05
ohsixBBgamer: do you have power saving stuff enabled for your router? or reduced beacons, or is it wireless n16:05
porgcoz_: in almost idle mode16:05
ActionParsnipBBgamer: did you even read what I wrote or did you just see the command and get excited????16:05
deepak_frank: how to change ubuntu usplash image16:05
terryfrank_: So the router is a Linksys BEFSR41 ?16:05
BBgamerIt's Wireless N16:05
deepak_how to change ubuntu logo16:05
porgActionParsnip: In the Ubuntu Software center, i think i am up to date? Or shall I update anywhere else?16:06
ActionParsnipBBgamer: doesn't matter16:06
ohsixBBgamer: some channels don't allow direct probes from clients, if you are on one the client will have to wait and see a beacon, if you have ssid broadcasts off, it may take a very very long time16:06
cipher_i take it no one has any idea about replacing the kernel safely :(16:06
ohsixActionParsnip: it does matter for what i was asking16:06
ActionParsnipporg: run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade; sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade16:06
sipiorcipher_: what's keeping you from replacing the kernel?16:06
terryfrank_: And the Linksys BEFSR41 is connected to the cable modem?16:06
BBgamerI've got SSID broadcasts on.16:06
frank_terry: yes, that's the router. Though, it wasn't working when I went straight from the cable modem either.16:06
deepak_heeeloo how to change ubuntu logo16:06
ohsixBBgamer: do you have mixed wireless b, n hardware?16:07
benzaldehydefrank_: eth0 is the wired device, wlan0 is the wireless. if you take a look at /etc/network/interfaces you can set the wireless manually and all that16:07
frank_terry: yes, the router is connected to the cable modem right now and this computer I'm currently using is plugged into the router16:07
ActionParsnipBBgamer: reboot and the SSID will not be seen, when it suddenly becomes available, run the command I gave16:07
porgActionParsnip: System > Administration > Update Manager: There are no updates16:07
frank_benzaldehyde: i see, thanks16:07
Dr_Willisdeepak_:  which logo where..16:07
BBgamerOhsix: My router or my adapter?16:07
deepak_heelo  frank how to change ubuntu logo16:07
terryfrank_: Some of the cable modems need to be restarted when a different PC or router is plugged into it.16:07
ohsixActionParsnip: theres also a log for networkmanager with the same information16:07
frank_terry: yea, I did that a few times already this morning, restarted the modem and the router every time I moved cables around or tried something new16:08
porgActionParsnip: Also uptodate within CLI16:08
ActionParsnipporg: I always use cli, especially in IRC a it is a text based environment :)16:08
BBgamerActionParsnip: Will do now, thanks!16:08
ohsixBBgamer: devices on the same network/router; are you mixing b, n (g can matter too, but not like this)16:08
ActionParsnipohsix: not aware of that, I can only advise what I know :)16:08
porgohsix: So what do we know so far from powertop and the sys log ?16:08
terryfrank_: Ok here is your problem.  The Linksys BEFSR41 is a Cable Modem router and the way you are using it is as a switch. The cable modem will only allow one connection.16:08
ohsixActionParsnip: ok he claimed you for his helper :]16:08
leszekx16:08
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ActionParsnipohsix: fine with me :D16:08
leszekklxa16:08
ActionParsnipporg: so what is the issue again please?16:09
porgohsix: I still am loyal to you! ;-)16:09
ohsixActionParsnip: feel free to pm if you need a hand16:09
ohsixporg: like i said, no problem16:09
porgActionParsnip just did some nice crosstalk.16:09
ActionParsnipohsix: thanks16:09
frank_terry: okay, but earlier this morning, the computer was plugged directly into the cable modem with no router in between, and it still didn't work16:09
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porgI think I should stay with ohsix, we are very close to the solution i think16:09
benzaldehydefrank_: had an ethernet cable take a dump on me two days ago, fiberoptics is a bunch of glass strands or so am under the impression16:09
ohsixporg: but that stuff in your syslog isn't free, its keeping your harddrive on16:09
BBgamerIt worked instantly when I rebooted.16:10
ohsixporg: i have no clue about the bluetooth message though16:10
benzaldehydefrank_: i.e. cables fail16:10
porgOk, that for sure is not nice, and worth solving, but first i am about to solve the fan issue.16:10
frank_benzaldehyde: yea, that's happened to me in the past too. I've tried three different cables this morning and none work16:10
BBgamerActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589309/16:10
ohsixBBgamer: want to know a neat trick? click on "available to all users" in the connection properties and it will connect way before you log on16:10
terryfrank_: Now you can replace your cable modem with the Linksys BEFSR41 and use it correctly and then both machines will be able to connect. But the way you have it connected now, you will only be able to connect one machine at a time.  And the cable modem will need to be restarted if you switch.16:10
porghi, test? is my inet connection still active?16:11
BBgamerOhsix: Thanks, but I've already done that.16:11
benzaldehydefrank_: are all the lights on16:11
ActionParsnipBBgamer: that's only the drive being detected, no network info :(16:11
porgtest ended. inet connection seems ok. sorry.16:11
benzaldehydefrank_: specifically, modem lights16:11
ohsixBBgamer: keen, i just want everyone to know it ;]16:11
frank_benzaldehyde: all the modem lights are on16:11
terryfrank_: If you unplug the laptop from the router, the other machine will more than likely be able to connect but you will probably need to unplug the cable modem's power supply and re-connect it again.16:12
benzaldehydefrank you are connected then, it is just a matter of getting dhclient to issue you an ip16:12
benzaldehydefrank if the system sees the device16:12
frank_terry: that makes sense, the lights on the front of the router are only lit up for the port the laptop is plugged into to. But that doesn't explain why the desktop wouldn't work when I went straight from the modem to the computer with no router16:12
terryfrank_: In other words, disconnect the laptop's cable, power cycle the cable modem and try again (with the other PC).16:13
porgohsix: 1) How intense is my CPU load in relation to only using one user process? I think ok 2) How is the temp in relation to CPU usage? 3) How is the fan? Must we set any "tripoints", "govern  the cpu", etc?16:13
porgohsix: I want to come to a conclusion. Is it possible with our knowledge, or do we need to assess further facts?16:14
ohsixporg: your powertop indicates all is normal; except there is something keeping your hard drive on all the time, writing to syslog very fast16:14
ohsixporg: every 5 seconds even for that bluetooth message16:14
terryfrank_:  Your present configuration will not work. You have  2 choices:  1) Replace the Linksys BEFSR41 with a router.  2) Replace the cable modem with the Linksys BEFSR4116:14
BluesKajfrank_, how many input ports on the router ?16:14
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frank_terry: okay, i'll try that. Do you have any thoughts on the situation I had before I set up the modem? Usually I go straight from the modem to the desktop with no router. It was working fine yesterday. Yesterday, it was fine16:15
parkdriverHi everyone. Is there a special Ubuntu Server edition IRC channel?16:15
bazhangparkdriver, #ubuntu-server16:15
frank_terry: sorry, typo, "Before I set up the router." Prior to this, it went Modem > Desktop, with no router and still didtn' work16:15
terryfrank_: Again.  Try it again but restart the cable modem.16:15
benzaldehydefrank_: it might actually, your modem is running from a MAC address given to it by the router and you switch things around sometimes all that needs to reset to the new MAC16:15
MK`Can I use things for Lucid on Maverick? The PPA I added gave me an error when I used apt-get update16:16
parkdriverbazhang: thank you!16:16
terryfrank_: Some cable modems will not connect to a different machine untill it is re-started.16:16
bazhangMK`, no16:16
porgohsix: Ok, So workload is quite usual (besides this BT and mail stuff, which is another issue, not necessarily causally related)16:16
MK`Thank you16:16
bazhangMK`, whats the ppa link16:16
MK`I'll wait until the guy updates I guess :P16:16
frank_Blueskaj: the router has 4 or 5 ports, I've tried them all, nothing works16:16
terryfrank_: In other words, disconnect the laptop's cable, power cycle the cable modem and try again (with the other PC).16:16
porgohsix: So does the fan "run more than necessary" ?16:16
ohsixfrank_: odd router -> computer should work; i've seen two people reporting that it doesn't in the last few days though16:16
porgohsix: And if so, how can we change it?16:17
MK`W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/loell/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found16:17
mneptokfrank_: you're trying to connect a computer to the cable modem that is not usually connected?16:17
MK`there16:17
* BluesKaj thinks the router should be the connection device for all pcs . which then connect to the modem ...that's what i did with my old linksys16:17
terryfrank_: The way you are  using the Linksys BEFSR41 now is as a switch.  So what you have is a switch not a router.16:17
ohsixporg: the hd being on all the time will generate a lot of useless heat, remove/fix postfix and figure out how to kill that bt message16:17
terryfrank_: And it will not work that way.16:17
ohsixterry is right about the mac address/modem restart too16:18
frank_mneptok: I typically don't use a router. I go straight from the modem to the comptuer. I never had a problem, but today the desktop wouldn't recognize the wired connection. So I set up the linksys so I could wire in my laptop and get online16:18
porgOk, so maybe it's not high CPU load, but high disk rotation / heat generation? But then again, why does it work better on Windows, where the disk spins all the time?16:18
ohsixit's up to the isp to say how many cpe's there are and they go by mac; oce it's seen that number it'll ignore any more16:18
frank_terry: I'll take yoru advice and give it a try, thank you for your help. I'll be back if it doesn't work.16:18
ohsixporg: spinning is fine, writing every 5 seconds isn't16:19
frank_I appreciate all the time and help, thanks guys16:19
terryfrank_: Ok.16:19
BluesKajyeah terry , router us a misnomer , a hub probly the correct name16:19
terryNP16:19
porgohsix: Always bear in mind (as a contextual relation) that in Windows the fan works more silent with the proper power profile!16:19
ohsixfrank_: you have me curious though, can you check something for me?16:19
terryBluesKaj: Correct16:19
porgohsix: Ok! So that's a qualitative difference!16:19
mneptokfrank_: power off everything. call Comcast and ask them to clear the MAC address associated with your modem and its circuit. tell them you want to set up a router. they may help you, they may not. but you deifnitely want that circuit bound to the MAC address of the WAN interface of the BEFSR41.16:19
ohsixporg: well you can write to syslog more often andmake it worse, what are you saying?16:19
porgWhere does this postfix issue come from? I have a fresh Ubuntu setup, and no mail account set up so far. Could that be the cause?16:20
ohsixporg: that is a bug/problem that needs to be fixed16:20
* BluesKaj sees too many cooks in this network kitchen , and backs off :)\16:20
terrymneptok: The Linksys BEFSR41  does not have a WAN interface16:20
ohsixporg: mine is a fresh install too, and there is no postfix16:20
terrymneptok: The Linksys BEFSR41  is a cable modem.16:20
porgohsix: What I meant is that 5sec interval disk write access within my currently faulty Ubuntu could in deed be the causal difference for more heat, hence more fan rotation16:21
mneptokterry: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683312400116:21
benzaldehydemneptok: you can set your router to any MAC address and the internet service provider would never see that address, it's your intranet not internet. just saying they might not accept that as an excuse to do what you ask16:21
* BluesKaj wonders how many input ports on the cable modem ..frank?16:21
terryfrank_:  frank_ has 2 choices:  1) Replace the Linksys BEFSR41 with a router.  2) Replace the cable modem with the Linksys BEFSR4116:22
ohsixfrank_: try sudo mii-tool -r eth0 in a terminal while it is connected to the cable modem16:22
benzaldehydemneptok: though not being about to connect they may just work with you either way16:22
porgohsix: How can I fix it manually for me know. Of course this fix should make its way into the main distributuion one day. But for now, how can i help myself?16:22
kostantinoshi16:22
terrymneptok:  frank_ has 2 choices:  1) Replace the Linksys BEFSR41 with a router.  2) Replace the cable modem with the Linksys BEFSR4116:22
benzaldehyde*able16:22
mneptokbenzaldehyde: if the modem is in bridged and no router mode, the ISP will definitely see the MAC address of any interface connected to it16:22
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darkwingduck_anyone ably for the naked programmer job in london???16:22
darkwingduck_apply16:22
kostantinosblaka16:22
terrymneptok: It is a cable modem. THe way he is using it, it is only a switch.16:22
bazhangdarkwingduck_, no. please stop16:22
mneptokterry: look at that Newegg link. the BEFSR41 is a router with 4 port switch.16:22
ohsixporg: well its a problem with toshiba_bluetooth, if you can make it shut up ... post the output of lsmod to a pastebin please16:23
kostantinosfak16:23
darkwingduck_any good chatrooms on irc16:23
kostantinosfack16:23
darkwingduck_just to talk about the news16:23
terrymneptok: Oh yea, it is a router.16:24
Pici!alis | darkwingduck_16:24
ubottudarkwingduck_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*16:24
ohsixdarkwingduck_: you could ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, i don't think there are many political channels on freenode (and "discussion" about news is generally people waxing idiotic about their own bent)16:24
terrymneptok: Well, maybe frank only needed to restart the cable modem.16:25
bluenemohi guys. i installed the recent 10.10 netbook edition in kvm and it wont start, telling me no required driver detected for unity.. please help me :)16:25
ohsixif frank would speak up :]16:25
porgohsix: lsmod http://paste.ubuntu.com/589314/16:25
tklafkao16:25
tklafkak16:25
mneptokterry: MAC address bonding can survive a modem reboot. the critical thing is that the modem be placed in bridged mode, not routed mode.16:26
Spikehead777Hello everyone16:26
ohsixporg: sorry, another dead end, no way to tell toshiba_bluetooth to be quiet16:26
fifischeHa16:26
mneptokterry: AFAIK, Comcast is still shipping modems in routed mode by default.16:26
ohsixporg: it is now time to file a bug16:26
porgohsix: What I see BT is used by nobody16:26
Spikehead777I have a question regarding screen resolutions with nvidia drivers16:27
ohsixporg: that just counts kernel use & dependent modules, not that it isn't being used16:27
darkwingduck_thx16:27
terrymneptok: Yea I suppose it could have been in bridge mode.16:27
porgOk, so I have encountered 2 bugs: BT permanently re-enables on Toshiba for no clear reason + postfix writes to logfile for no known reason16:27
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mneptokterry: it *should* be in bridged mode, if a user is going to use their own router behind the modem.16:27
terrymneptok: Yea ok...16:28
porgohsix: Still, in relation to the 57 C, is that CLEARLY audible fan speed ok? Btw, how can I read the fan rotation speed?16:28
ohsixporg: postfix will do that if its installed and not configured; i do not know why it is installed on your computer16:28
terrymneptok: It is very difficult to solve someone's network configuration problems remotely.  There are too many possibilities.16:28
porgCan I see whether anything is dependent on postfix? Else I could simply uninstall it. Ok?16:29
ohsixporg: typically the fan rpm is not visible unless read directly from the controller ic, you could try lm-sensors but it will alost certainly not be shown16:29
ohsixporg: you will be told what depends on it when you attempt to remove it16:29
bluenemocan i install 10.04 netbook edition in kvm?16:29
porgohsix: Whats the cmdlkine for removing a package?16:30
terrymneptok: There are too many possibilities, and it is easy to get confused.16:30
jpdsporg: apt-get remove <package>16:30
jpdsporg: To see reverse dependencies: apt-cache rdepends <package>16:30
Spikehead777I'm just going to throw this out there: I have two screens: a 1440x900 monitor hooked up via DVI, and a 1360x768 monitor hooked up via VGA. Both monitors are hooked up to my NVIDIA GeForce 240 GT.16:30
frankterry: I'm back, here's what I did. (A) Unplugged the laptop from the linksys so the Desktop was the only computer plugged into it. Restarted the both the modem adn the router, still didn't work. (B) Removed the Linksys and plugged the computer directly into the cable modem (which is my usual setup). Restarted the modem. Still didn't work. (C) Connected my desktop to the modem using a USB and it picked up the internet connection right aw16:31
frankay. So right now, I'm on the problematic desktop computer, connected via USB. It still will not recognize an ethernet connection16:31
benzaldehydemneptok: that still has nothing to do with what the ISP sees, they only see the MAC of your modem16:31
porgohsix: The following packages will be REMOVED:   bsd-mailx postfix16:31
porgso bsd-mailfix depends on it16:31
ohsixporg: sounds fine16:31
frankterry: not sure if the entirety of that message posted. I took your advice, and it still didn't work. I plugged the comptuer directly into the cable modem, restarted it, nothing worked.16:31
porgor came along wiht it?16:31
frankterry: then I connected the computer to the modem with a USB and it picked up the internet immediately. Right now, I'm using the problematic computer that is USBed tot he modem16:32
ohsixbsd-mailx is installed for local mail delivery, but you have to go out of your way to install postfix with it (its offered as an option)16:32
Spikehead777The problem is that my tv is receiving a 1280x768 from ubuntu instead of the proper 1360x768, even though the NVIDIA settings page is set up correctly. This is my first time working with ubuntu, so bear with me. How can I fix this if16:32
frankterry: it still won't pick up anything with the ethernet16:32
terryfrank: I was wrong.  The Linksys BEFSR41 is a router.16:32
porgohsix: This removal will not cause other apps to trouble? I mean there must have been a reason why it came in the default installation? Or was it merely there as a bug?16:32
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frankterry: that's fine, I'm not using the LInksys right now anyway, the problem seems to be with my computers ability to recognize an ethernet connection16:32
ohsixfrank: can you try doing sudo mii-tool -r eth0 while its connectted by ethernet?16:32
frankterry: since a USB connection to the modem seems to work fine16:33
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terryfrank:  mneptok pointed out that the cable modem has two options bridge mode and router mode and that may be the problem.16:33
ohsixporg: if it says its just removing those you're fine16:33
phoenixsamprashelp!! how to set an ipaddress manually on ubuntu? via command line permanently?16:33
bluenemowhy the hell is a graphics adapter required to install unity?? what sence does that make if you use it on netbooks? which netbook has a good graphics adapter?16:33
frankohsix: I'll try that. Right now, boht the USB and the ethernet cables are connected, though it doesn't see the ethernet. I'm not sure if that will affect hte results of the command16:33
sukimaWhy does apt-get rubygems say it is uptoday whena gem -v clearly shows an out of date version. Most gems need a newer version.16:33
bluenemophoenixsampras, via /etc/network/interfaces16:33
macosukima: because it's up-to-date as of the ubuntu repositories16:34
terryfrank: I was confused because you were never able to tell me whether or not the cable modem was plugged into the WAN port of the router.  Was it?16:34
porgohsix: Is postfix needed for mail server applications only, or also for mail clients?16:34
phoenixsamprasbluenemo: is there any sintax for it?16:34
macosukima: what is on your system is the newest in the repos. that's all apt-get can tell you16:34
sukimamaco is there something wrong with it that ubuntu repositories are not being updated?16:34
porgohsix: Or in other words, will the default mail app from Ubuntu get troubles?16:34
bluenemophoenixsampras, yes google for it. its not to hard to understand. you can enter static ip's and gateways there16:34
benzaldehydeterry: bridge mode has not a thing to do with the modem16:34
ohsixfrank: it wouldn't, but it also wouldn't confirm what i'm wondering, if yyou could do ethernet only; see if it works affter, then post dmesg to a pastebin i'd be grateful16:34
benzaldehydeterry: you have it reversed16:34
frankterry: the modem was plugged into the router port labeled "internet", but I'm not using the router rihgt now16:34
macosukima: new versions of upstream software go into new versions of ubuntu. only bugs are fixed in stable ubuntu releases16:34
porgohsix: I was referring to Evolution mail16:35
frankohsix: will do, one sec16:35
macosukima: you could perhaps request a backport of the newer version for an older ubuntu release. there's a separate repository just for that16:35
ohsixporg, no, it's for local mail delivery, you picked postfix when you installed smartmontools16:35
sukimaI could understand using older versions of software for end user stuff but something like system libraries should probubly be updated especially since it at 1.3 and the web site says it's up to 1.716:35
terryfrank: as benzaldehyde says, maybe you only need to configure the router probably.16:35
sukimamaco: can up upgrade my ubuntu?16:36
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ohsixfrank: this is the second time i've heard of this problem and i'm suspecting autoswitching or negotiation16:36
sukimamaco: err can I upgrade my ubuntu release. I'm currently at 10.0416:36
benzaldehydefrank: i think you pretty much isolated the problem though, it was the cord was it not16:36
terryfrank: Might just set the router to factroy defaults and try again.16:37
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ohsixterry: one problem at a time, you're probably right though16:37
HypoglybeticAny KVM Experts? I'm using AQEMU and the darn SPARC VM won't start in any way.  Can anyone help me?16:37
frankohsix: I ran the command, all it said was "restarting autonegotiation"16:37
ohsixterry: at least that will sidestep it16:37
porgohsix: Now I see where postfix came from! smartmontools! I guess for their email alerts! So I will file the bug with smartmontools. Correct?16:37
ohsixfrank: was eth usable after?16:38
frankohsix: nope16:38
LeaoXhave a good night,every boys.16:38
porgohsix: Now to toshiba_bluetooth . Is this a kernel module/extension/whateveryoucallit ?16:38
benzaldehydeLeaoX: thanks16:38
benzaldehydeLeaoX: you too16:38
BluesKajterry, what if frank just uses the router directly to the internet , with no cable modem ?16:38
ohsixporg: no, you picked postfix as a mailer when it asked to configure bsd-mailx, just leave it at default16:38
franknot sure if it's relevant, but the light on the modem that says "PC Activity" is blinking (as it should be) when I'm connected with USB, but with ethernet, it's off16:38
frankit seems like the problem is that the PC jsut isnt' seeing any ethernet connections all of a sudeen16:39
ohsixporg: a module, after you report the bug you can blacklist it temporarily to get it to shut up16:39
terryBluesKaj: He can't do that.  It is not a cable modem, just a router.16:39
ohsixfrank: ok, one more thing to try16:39
frankokay16:39
benzaldehydeBluesKaj: are you joking16:39
macosukima: system -> admin -> software sources -> updates. set it to allow normal upgrades (instead of just long term support (LTS) releases), then open up update manager16:39
milen8204How can I check how many partition have my computer in Ubuntu ?16:40
rumpel_milen8204, sudo fdisk -l16:40
ohsixfrank: sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-HD eth0 then try connecting with networkmanager, its important to keep the cable connected between mii-tool and trying to connect16:40
porgohsix: toshiba_bluetooth is a driver component of the kernel. right?16:40
benzaldehydefrank: new ethernet cable16:40
BluesKajbenzaldehyde, nope , http://tinyurl.com/3dcyu7w16:40
sukimamaco: thank you. How do you do that command line I'm running server16:41
milen8204rumpel_, does it show partition which are not using by Ubuntu ?16:41
porgohsix: How can I disable it? And where shall I file the bug appropriately?16:41
macosukima: ah ok. just a second16:41
benzaldehydefrank: comcast includes it with service they ought to send you one or pick one up16:41
rumpel_milen8204, yes16:41
milen8204rumpel_, thaks a lot16:41
rumpel_milen8204, or gparted.. if you like a gui16:41
benzaldehydeBluesKaj: i'm in shell16:42
milen8204no thanks i will be ok whit terminal16:42
porgohsix: I can work without BT, I do not need it.16:42
terrybenzaldehyde: He said at one point that he tried switching cables.16:42
macosukima: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades    <-- modify that file to "normal" instead of "lts"16:42
frankbenzaldehyde: the ethernet calbe I'm using now is the same one I was using witht he laptop a few minutes ago, it worked perfectly16:42
frankohsix: will do, brb16:42
macosukima: then "sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade"16:42
ohsixporg: re component, yes; file the bug & give me the url then i will tell you how to blacklist it16:42
terryfrank: I would first try setting the router back to factory defaults.16:42
benzaldehydeterry: i recall, but how often does one have 2 extra good cables, usually you have 3 cables when the first two have gone wonky16:43
milen8204rumpel_, how I can see its volume ?16:43
sukimamaco: thank you!!!!!16:43
porgohsix: ?16:43
codemagicianhow I spawn the basic photo viewer using the command line please?16:43
BluesKajbenzaldehyde,theLinksys BEFSR41i s a EtherFast Cable/DSL Router16:43
bernzcodemagician: i think you're probably using 'eye of gnome', so it's "eog"16:44
rumpel_milen8204, should be mentioned somewhere16:44
porgohsix: I am asking for measures to fix this on my computer. By blacklisting I guess you mean something global (for all Ubuntu users).16:44
bernzcodemagician: that is, "eog <name_of_pic_file>"16:44
milen8204rumpel_,  oo its montioned start end :D16:44
ohsixporg: no, just for you; until the bug is fixed, but you need to report the bug first16:44
porgohsix: Sounds to me as if you want this module to get disabled for all users then!? I am not competent enough to cause this.16:44
milen8204i noticed later16:44
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porgohsix: Why must I report the bug first?16:44
ohsixporg: just for you; file the bug16:44
c1eanis there a beta of ubuntu netbook edition?16:45
c1eanor should i just wait until the 18th or whenever natty is due oiut16:45
ohsixporg: assume you're the owner of unique version of your notebook and nobody else ever will16:45
bernzcodemagician: also, tack on ampersand to get your prompt back (i consider executing and spawning to be two different things; spawning launches a process, and then returns to whatever you were doing)16:45
porgohsix: Simply for didactic reasons? ;-) (Exchange: Your knowledge / my FLOSS participation) ?16:45
ohsixporg: as i'd like to see it fixed, you need to report it16:45
Picic1ean: There is no netbook edition anymore. See the release notes in the topic of #ubuntu+116:45
rumpel_milen8204, well.. as i said... if you want something more convenient, use gparted in system->administration (if its installed)16:45
porgohsix: I see, you mean for the common good! ;-)16:46
bernzanyone know of a nice way to execute a command in response to a TCP connection being made?16:46
benzaldehydefrank: does ifconfig see it16:46
milen8204rumpel_, I used it but I think there are less partition16:46
porgCan you nevertheless tell me how to blacklist it locally first, and i promise to file the bug later that day, when I have nerves for it.16:46
ohsixporg: that and its a real bug16:46
terryfrank: Press the Reset Button and hold it down until the red Diag LED on the front panel turns on and off completely.  THis iwll restore factory defaults and clear all the router's settings.16:46
bernzi noticed that compiz doesn't work over VNC (composited graphics aren't transfered), so i want to switch to metacity when a VNC client connects on a specific port16:46
porgOk, which bugtracker is appropriate?16:47
ohsixporg: in my scenario theres no element of me needing to trust you; and launchpad.net16:47
sukimamaco: I'm sorry to bother again. it said no new release found16:47
ohsixporg: you can try ubuntu-bug linux in a terminal if you want to try automatic filing, and if there is an appropraite category16:47
frank_ohsix: okay, so here's what happened. I unplugged the USB, made sure the ethernet was the only thing plugged in, restarted the modem, then ran sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-HD eth016:48
macosukima: after changing it to normal and then doing apt-get update?16:48
porgohsix: Nevertheless, all this has very little to do with my fan noise, nevertheless after 3 hours of talking i am still with the problem16:48
c1eanPici: it's listed here though: 11.04 netbook: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta16:48
frank_ohsix: after I did, the computer still did not recognize the ethernet. The applet is still gry and says "Wire Network disconnected", however, I noticed that16:48
macoc1ean: you mean where it says "Ubuntu Netbook Edition and Ubuntu Desktop Edition have been combined into a single Edition called simply "Ubuntu" (with no "Edition")."16:49
ohsixporg: your computer/cpu might run in the 30s after your hd cools down ...16:49
frank_ohsix: the PC Activity light on the cable modem came on and started blinking, which only happens when there is a connection. I also opened Network Tools, selected Aut0 and it said it was active16:49
c1eanoh i see16:49
c1eanUbuntu Netbook Edition and Ubuntu Desktop Edition have been combined into a single Edition called simply "Ubuntu" (with no "Edition").16:49
webPragmatistwith ufw can i specify an interface?16:49
c1eanUbuntu Server Edition has been renamed to simply "Ubuntu Server" (again, the "Edition" has been dropped).16:49
sukimamaco: Sorry how do I change it to normal?16:49
c1eanmaco lol16:49
ohsixfrank_: very informative; thank you16:49
frank_ohsix: but the network manager still won't recognize the connection and says it's disconnected16:49
c1eanweird that it's still listed though16:49
Picic1ean: Yes, thats why I pointed you there :)16:49
c1eanmeh16:49
porgohsix: ubuntu-bug wow, that s a great tool! I file it. Be back later.16:49
macosukima: sudo vi ...that file i said...16:49
c1eanthanks16:49
codemagicianbernz, thanks16:50
maco<maco> sukima: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades    <-- modify that file to "normal" instead of "lts"16:50
_Neytiri_ever since i was told to do a apt-get upgrade by someone i have been gettting this issue perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:LANGUAGE = (unset),LC_ALL = (unset),LANG = "en_US.utf8"  are supported and installed on your system.  perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").16:50
ohsixfrank_: are the modem lights on when you just plug it in and don't use mii-tool?16:50
BluesKajfrank , sudo dhclient eth016:50
benzaldehydefrank_: wish i knew your lan was not seen on the system, yeah, cable is probably alright16:50
macosukima: big comment explains what different values for the variable mean, then at the end the variable is set to "lts" ...you need to change it to "normal"16:50
bernzcodemagician: no worries, took me a bit to figure out the name when i was first looking, because its title bar is "image viewer" :-)16:50
terryfrank_: You can test your nic by creating a connection between the laptop and the pc.  Connect both to the router's LAN ports.  On router do: ifconfig eth0 192.168.5.5   On the pc do sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.5.6 ; ping 192.168.5.5  #If it pings   it works, if not you have a problem with NIC.16:50
porgohsix: Shall I file it within "Kernel Config" or better "Other" ?16:50
sukimamaco: I'll try that thanks16:50
Picic1ean: Only because that is compiled for ARM16:50
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macoc1ean: still listed *where*?16:51
terryfrank_: You can test your nic by creating a connection between the laptop and the pc.  Connect both to the router's LAN ports.  On laptop do: ifconfig eth0 192.168.5.5   On the pc do sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.5.6 ; ping 192.168.5.5  #If it pings   it works, if not you have a problem with NIC.16:51
terry#I said router and I mean to say laptop16:51
Picimaco: We're addressing it in #ubuntu+116:51
_Neytiri_same with this error when i try to start apache   * Starting web server apache2     Warning: SuexecUserGroup directive requires SUEXEC wrapper.  Syntax error on line 19 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/****.********.com.conf:  Invalid command 'FCGIWrapper', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration16:51
frank_ohsix: prior to using mii-tools, all the modem lights were on except PC Activity, after running mii-tools PC Activity came on16:52
porgohsix: Regarding your recent comment: Would it be best if i give the laptop a little rest to have the chance to cool down, then resume, and see if that reduced HD access has effect on the fan?16:52
sukimamaco: that fixed it16:52
ohsixporg: other, and its not a regression that you know of, and be sure to mention the message comes up every 5 seconds, and post part if your syslog with the message when you can16:52
sukimamaco: thank you for dealing with my idiouscy16:52
frank_terry: right now the router isn't set up, but I will try that shortly and see what happens16:52
ohsixporg: it should cool down rather quickly after it stops being written to16:52
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macosukima: it's not idiocy, just inexperience. everybody has to ask for help first time through doing something new!16:52
ohsixfrank_: OK, so it could be that autoneg is busted, what ethernet card do you have? (lspci)16:53
bernzhm... looks like iptables might be what i need to trigger a command when a certain port connects16:53
porgohsix: Then I have to dissapoint you. postfix was uninstalled already 15min ago, hence the HD must have had enough time to your logic, but fan still unchanged16:53
frank_terry: are you saying to runa n ethernet cable directly from the desktop to the laptop?16:53
porgohsix: Can I recreate the bug?16:53
porgohsix: That's what i am asked16:54
ohsixporg: yes16:54
sukimamaco: I'll be sure to pay that forward. thx again16:54
porgohsix: I would say no, as it is a bug which occurs without user internevtion.16:54
ohsixporg: the bluetooth module is still writing evey 5 seconds ...16:54
frank_ohsix: lspci > http://paste.ubuntu.com/589323/16:54
porgOr is the menu icon BT off considered my reproductuion steps?16:54
ohsixporg: the question means can it be done on demand, so tests can be done if needed16:55
BestKeptSecretis the dict utility down for anyone?16:55
ohsixBestKeptSecret: yes, i noticed that earlier myself16:55
weecolhello anyone talk to me about jobs here16:55
lightahoi guys is there a way to rsync a folder without taking .svn dir too ?16:55
egarfflighta: --exclude I believe is your flag16:55
loculinuxpñss16:55
ohsixfrank_: ok, are you running maverick? (10.10)16:55
Pumpkin-lighta: yeah, --exclude16:56
frank_ohsix: yes, 10.1016:56
lightathx guys, working on resurive ?16:56
weecolhow do you create a hw profile in ubuntu16:56
weecolfor tech guys to be contacted about16:56
egarfflighta: -r is recursive16:56
weecolie cp -r16:57
egarfflighta: if you did something like 'rsync -r --exclude=.svn it would exclude anything named .svn in the rsync.16:57
lightayeah yeah why asking if exclusion was working with recrusive sry for bad expression16:57
lightaok perfect thx =)16:57
tgalalis it possible to move /etc to another location then create a symbolic link to it in its original location ?16:57
egarfflighta: happy to help.16:57
MTeckI'm having some troubles... I installed Ubuntu on my mac mini and it works great, but now I need to also install mac on it again; I'm trying to install mac along side my current ubuntu install but mac doesn't seem to want to see any valid partitions available and I specifically left one partition open for this and created an empty partition. I know this isn't the right place to ask for help, but the best place I can think of. Any point16:57
guampa1is there a way to add items to the volume indicator/sound indicator/whatever is it called?16:57
BestKeptSecretis the dict terminal utility servers down or somethign?16:58
murats16:58
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muratsasss16:58
ohsixfrank_: one moment16:58
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OMGUbuntumurat: !spam16:59
Picimurat: thats enough.16:59
frank_ohsix: no problem16:59
BluesKajguampa1, type alsamixer in the termina, you'll fins all available ctrls there16:59
milamber!dualboot | MTeck16:59
ubottuMTeck: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot16:59
maheanuuHow can I stop media player from trying to open all files and folders?16:59
liuchong大家好16:59
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PiciBestKeptSecret: dict.org seems to be very slow/down.16:59
guampa1BluesKaj: i want to add an item to the sound indicator, not needing alsamixer16:59
murathi17:00
BluesKajguampa1, what item ?17:00
MTeckmilamber: i found those already, but they didn't help me with this17:01
guampa1want to launch some audio related program from that indicator "menu", i did once something similar with pidgin and the messaging indicator17:01
OMGUbuntuIf any of you guys want to improve gaming on linux, you should consider this  http://bit.ly/hXjE7Y17:01
OMGUbuntuthey could use some help17:01
guampa1but i can't recall how is it done17:01
ruanguampa1: what do you want to add to it>?17:01
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vivek200912how to edit the side pannel of ubuntu 10.10 notebook edition17:02
vivek200912how to edit the side pannel of ubuntu 10.10 notebook edition?17:02
guampa1ruan: i want to add an audio program, in the same way i had added pidgin a "IM program" to the messaging indicator17:02
guampa1is there a way?17:02
macoguampa1: there's a separate indicator for audio apps, i think, but i also think they way they get in there is by patching them17:03
porgohsix: I filed the bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/75042817:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 750428 in linux (Ubuntu) "toshiba_bluetooth re-enables every 5 secs even though BlueTooth is set to off in the Ubuntu BT menu Icon" [Undecided,New]17:03
rodhashHello guys, when my ubuntu starts using SWAP it gets very slow.. even when swap has only 100MB (2GB RAM) my system becomes slow.. any idea how to handle it? Is there any way to avoid this slowness?17:03
ohsixporg: ok thank you, one moment17:03
ohsixfrank_: can you post the output of lsmod too17:03
porgohsix: Could you now please tell me how to temporarily disable toshiba_bluetoothh17:03
lariousI want to know if installing fresh Ubuntu on a system, Will java be included as a defaut?17:03
ohsixlarious: it will not17:04
OMGUbuntularious: if you mark the checkboxes17:04
bittyx-laptopi'm having a bit of trouble with my dvd drive. i use ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop. i've previously burned a dvd on my windows machine, and when i try to place it in my laptop's dvd drive, i get a message: Unable to mount (dvd name); Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock17:04
BluesKajlarious, only if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras17:04
bittyx-laptopis this a badly burned dvd or is it something on my laptop?17:04
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lariousI want to know if installing fresh Ubuntu on a system, Will java be included as a defaut?17:04
bittyx-laptop(i don't have another system to try the dvd on at the moment)17:04
frank_ohsix: lsmod > http://paste.ubuntu.com/589325/17:05
guampa1maco: thanks, not feeling too friendly towards whoever has designed this POS17:05
rodhashlarious: no17:05
rodhashHello guys, when my ubuntu starts using SWAP it gets very slow.. even when swap has only 100MB (2GB RAM) my system becomes slow.. any idea how to handle it? Is there any way to avoid this slowness?17:05
ohsixporg: first, sudo rmmod toshiba_bluetooth, that should remove it temporarily, i will tell you the rest in a moment17:05
trismguampa1: you can add an item that will launch the app to the menu, but if you want further integration, the app needs to be patched (to add it to the menu, create a file in /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/ with a single line that is the path to a .desktop file, sure as /usr/share/applications/liferea.desktop)17:05
guampa1trism: that's just great to read17:05
guampa1thanks17:05
lariousI want to know if installing fresh Ubuntu on a system, Will java be included as a defaut?17:05
kundanhi.. seems like I've messed up my apt tree.. while running aptitude upgrade I get a message like open: 30107; closed: 40629; defer: 227; conflict: 1160 where the number of open and closed packages keeps increasing forever [ 6-7hrs at least ]17:05
ohsixrodhash: only way to avoid it is get more ram or do less with the system, swap means your working set has exceeded your capacity17:05
kundanHow do I fix this?17:06
maheanuuI just installed a new hard drive and a fresh Ubuntu 10.10 all went well until last night when media player decided to be the default file manager???  How do I remedy this?17:06
ohsixrodhash: unintuitively, increasing swap to way more than 100mb can help alleviate the problem17:06
vivek200912larious: no, if u r installing from live cd.17:06
czardoznope17:06
czardoz(i think)17:06
ohsixrodhash: more swap = more storage for programs doing nothing17:06
benzaldehydeczardoz: i did that once, thought, gaveme a migraine17:06
rodhashohsix: Thanks, but any idea if there's any customization for swap? I mean, to increase a little the performance? Actually my swap has 1GB and my RAM has 2GB17:07
rodhashohsix: Sorry, my SWAP has 4GB17:07
Polahohsix: I've not seen swap being used for sleeping programs with things in memory17:08
Chousuke_on most modern systems swap is pretty much unused17:08
ohsixrodhash: there are a lot, but none that do what you are asking for to the degree that i'm sure you're expecting17:08
Chousuke_because there's enough RAM for everything17:08
czardozbenzaldehyde, ok17:08
Chousuke_in general, you don't WANT to use swap, anyway17:08
frank_ohsix: any ideas?17:08
ohsixPolah: anonymous pages that aren't touched are migrated17:08
lariousvivek200912: have a problem, i hav a program that required java and having a problem to install it17:08
ohsixfrank_: looking at mavs kernel changelog still17:08
ohsixfrank_: do you have a timeframe?17:08
Brwais there a text editor with supporting change direction to RTL (letft to right) ?17:09
porgohsix: That BT msg is logged every 5 secs, hence the disk is active all the time still. Or is this console it buffered in RAM and only writen to disk in longer periods?17:09
Chousuke_the best optimisation you can do to your swap space is to buy more RAM :P17:09
bernzfor anyone digging the log of this channel, here's what i discovered: there's no simple way to react to an incoming connection; essentially, you set up iptables to emit a line of recognizable trigger text to a log (e.g. syslog), and then tail that log (with -f) and grep/awk/etc for the trigger text (and launch your command)17:09
rcmaehlO_o both my routers use linux17:09
guampa1trism: though that works ok with messaging indicators, doesn't seem to exist an equiv path for sound indicator :/17:09
rcmaehlIS there a way to ssh into them if sohow?17:09
Brwais there a text editor with supporting change direction to RTL (letft to right) ?17:09
ohsixporg: syslog is for important messages, so it syncs its output file for every write17:09
rodhashohsix: Ok, what do you think? Should I take easy with my ubuntu? I mean, using less programs?17:09
lariousvivek200912: have a problem, i hav a program that required java and having a problem to install it17:09
iceroot_bernz: inetd is what you are looking for17:09
rodhashohsix: Or changing the RAM or SWAP helps?17:09
erUSULbernz: you may want to ask in #netfilter it may be a better way17:09
iceroot_bernz: its calling program when a connection is incomming on a specific port17:09
trismguampa1: yes, the sound indicator would likely require patching indicator-sound (unless something changed recently)17:09
bernziceroot_: oh, cool, i will check that17:09
guampa1allright17:10
porgohsix: Ok, so after we "blacklisted" BT mod, there should be far less disk access17:10
frank_ohsix: forgot to mention, I'm running 64bit, not sure if that matters. No real timeframe17:10
bernzerUSUL: that's a good tip, thanks17:10
quiescenstail will of course probably break each time logs are rotated17:10
iceroot_bernz: maybe its xinetd now17:10
ohsixrodhash: install smem and give a good look at program memory use, you could have a genuine memory leak situation17:10
sipiorBrwa: yep, vim handles that just fine (and i assume emacs does as well)17:10
Brwais there a text editor with supporting change direction to RTL (letft to right) ?17:10
ohsixporg: yes, far less17:10
porgohsix: So plz, let's start blackmailing the mod.17:10
erUSULbernz: iceroot_ gave the best answer if that's what you want...17:10
bernziceroot_: that sounds like just what i need, thanks17:10
ohsixfrank_: i meant has it been a problem since the first time you tried it or has it ever worked17:10
vivek200912larious: sorry, I am not the expert, please repeat your question in detail so that some experts will help you.17:11
porgohsix: I would be proud, if I have contributed solving a bug, from which many other Toshiba users would benefit, by getting a more silent laptop.17:11
ohsixporg: indeed17:11
ylmfossz17:11
rodhashohsix: Thanks :)17:11
porgohsix: So now I start to understand why you have gone through that long evaluation!17:11
porgohsix: blackmail instruction plz.17:11
ohsixporg: ok17:12
frank_ohsix: I've never had a problem before today. It's always plugged directly into the cable modem. It worked fine yesterday, then this morning there's a problem.17:12
vivek200912larious: by the way which program?17:12
ohsixporg: in a terminal, sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-tosh-bt.conf17:12
frank_ohsix: the only thing I can think of is, yesterday, I set up my LInksys router for about two hours so I could plug in my laptop, when I was done, I disconnected the router, restarted the modem, and plugged it back into the desktop (as it normally is)17:13
frank_ohsix: and it worked fine17:13
ohsixporg: insert "blacklist toshiba_bluetooth" save the file and exit17:13
frank_ohsix: then I woke up this morning and it won't see the ethernet17:13
ohsixporg: then run sudo update-initramfs -c -k all, and you're done17:13
benzaldehydeping please17:13
ohsixfrank_: i see17:14
ohsixfrank_: tru sudo rmmod r816917:14
ohsixthen sudo modprobe r816917:14
porgohsix: Ran well.17:14
frank_ohsix: should I disconnect hte USB before trying that?17:14
porgI will monitor syslog now closely17:14
ohsixfrank_: i see lots of negotiation related problems and workarounds for that thing, i'm looking for current info17:14
lariousI want to know if installing fresh Ubuntu on a system, Will java be included as a defaut?17:14
ohsixfrank_: you don't need to, after you do it you might want to test it though17:15
lariousthe program is Y17:15
frank_okay i'll test it, brb17:15
lariousYf17:15
ohsixporg: monitor _powertop_ it'll tell you such things :P17:15
lariousvivek200912: the program is YF17:15
porgWIth the underscores?17:15
porgpowertop tells about disk i/o as well?17:16
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ohsixporg: btw rmmod removed it for now, and what you just did assured it will stay removed; when you want to try a fix just move the file away or delete it17:16
ohsixporg: yes, and no underscores, that was for emphasis17:16
rodhashohsix: Thanks for the tip, with smem I can see Firefox 4 using most of SWAP.. :-/17:17
porgohsix: Damn, that module still talks into the log.17:17
ohsixrodhash: thats how it goes :\ are you using adblock & flashblock? it can help, bartab can _REALLY_ help17:17
CreateISOHello. I extract the content of an Ubunto image. I just want to recreate the iso (bootable) of this content but if I try to install it it tells me "No bootable medium was found"17:17
ohsixporg: yes, but look at the timestamps17:17
rodhashsorry, but what's adblock / flashblock and bartab?17:18
leg3ndmorning guys, anyone know how to change default window manager via CLI in 10.10?17:18
sss314What application can I use to download YouTube videos? I tried youtube-dl, FatRat, slimrat File Downloader and gPodder, but none of them worked for me.17:18
lariousI want to know if installing fresh Ubuntu on a system, Will java be included as a defaut?17:18
ohsixrodhash: firefox extensions17:18
vivek200912larious: so sorry I cant help.17:18
ray24my dictionary that came ubuntu isn't working/searching for definitions anymore17:18
rodhashohsix: Thanks.. let me take a look17:18
Polahlarious: OpenJDK is17:18
leg3ndlarious, no you have to install it17:18
leg3ndlarious, yea openJDK is but not JRE17:19
ohsixrodhash: it'll be night and day; you'll be surprised :]17:19
PolahOpenJDK JRE is, Sun Java 6 JRE isn't17:19
frank_ohsix: A couple odd things happened. When I ran "rmmod r8169" while connected with USB, nothing happened. I disconnected USB, restarted modem, and ran it again with the ethernet plugged in17:19
benzaldehydeohsix: you should tell frank that he ought to clone his computers mac address inside his router control panel17:19
ohsixfrank_: there should be no output for rmmod17:19
porgohsix: Of course i looked at the timestamps. The are live! tail -f /var/log/syslog17:19
frank_ohsix: it said: "ERROR: Module r8169 does not exist in /proc/modules." Then I ran ifconfig and eth0 did not show up17:19
lariousleg3nd: you mean I install JDk or Jre?17:19
CrawfordComeauxI need to install libsfml-audio1.5 in maverick, but only libsfml-audio1.6 is showing up in apt-get...how can I install the one I need?17:19
ohsixbenzaldehyde: that is pretty irrelevant if his media settings are wrong17:19
porgohsix: So, BT still is active.17:20
frank_ohsix: though,t he PC Activity light on the modem was still on17:20
leg3ndlarious, listin ti Polah he seems to know more then i17:20
leg3ndlarious, *to17:20
ohsixporg: did you run sudo rmmod toshiba_bluetooth?17:20
benzaldehydefrank_: when you took your thing and setup the router the modem could be using the MAC of the router still, that you can get a usb connection could mean that it handles it differenyl than ethernet17:20
ohsixfrank_: ok, and when you reloaded it and plugged the  cable back in?17:20
lariousPolah: dont understand you17:21
porgohsix: No, not yet. You only told me about sudo update-initramfs -c -k all17:21
Polahlarious: If you're just running Java programs, you want JRE. OpenJDK comes with 10.10 by default, Sun Java 6 requires the Canonical partners repository to be installed17:21
ohsixbenzaldehyde: please, we're trying to diagnose something17:21
ohsixporg: well i told you about rmmod earlier; do it  now17:21
porgohsix: So is it ok now? Under the current state?17:21
trismguampa1: there is information on how to add support here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SoundMenu and depending on the app someone may have already written a plugin, like for exaile here http://sunng.info/blog/2010/11/exaile-sound-menu-integration/17:21
porgohsix: ok. thx17:21
Polahlarious: If you're not developing Java problems, you don't need the JDK17:21
frank_ohsix: when I only had the ethernet connected, rmmod gave me the error above and eth0 didn't show up in ifconfig. It still did not recognize the connection, thought he PC activity light on the modem was blinking as it normally would17:21
ohsixPolah: problems :d17:21
Polahohsix: What?17:22
porgohsix: rmrod ran without returning anything, so seems to have worked.17:22
porgohsix: next step?17:22
frank_benzaldehyde: how would I correct that (sorry I didn' tnotice your PM till now)17:22
ohsixfrank_: right, i mean after modprobe, rmmod, modprobe; plug cable in17:22
lariousPolah: I am install this offline and I was ask to install it into /usr/java, but there is no directory called java in the usr directory17:22
frank_ohsix: right now, the ethernet is still plugged in, but I'm connected with USB17:22
ohsixPolah: read what you said :D17:22
guampa1trism: i was just getting to that link, i'll see if i can get the app integrated (pulseaudio global eq), just not very happy with the scheme, but thats other story. thanks a lot dude17:22
vagvafif i install gnome-shell upon unity, will it break ?17:23
lariousPolah: I am install this offline and I was ask to install it into /usr/java, but there is no directory called java in the usr directory17:23
kompkomp17:23
cdavisWhere does alien save the created .deb file? It says "iseriesaccess_6.1.0-2.2_i386.deb generated" but I can't find that file anywhere?17:23
benzaldehydeohsix: modprobe would make sense if it weren't working before17:23
odiocdavis:  did you look in the home directory?17:24
frank_ohsix: sorry, I'm a little confused. WHen I plugged hte USB back in, it picked up the internet connection with no problem. I never ran a "modprobe" command, only "rmmod r8169"17:24
benzaldehydeohsix: it was working now it's not, so it must be someth he did17:24
ohsixbenzaldehyde: no, it's not17:24
frank_ohsix: at no time did it recognize the ethernet, though the modem seemed to get some PC Activity17:24
porgohsix: Don't know whether there is a next step involved, but i can tell you that syslog now remains unchanged, BT finally shuts up ;-)17:24
cdavisodio: Yes, of both my local user and root. I did a find / | grep iseriesaccess_6.1.0-2.2_i386.deb and it found nothing17:24
CreateISOHello. I extract the content of an Ubunto image. I just want to recreate the iso (bootable) of this content but if I try to install it it tells me "No bootable medium was found"17:24
Polahlarious: Ohhh, you're that guy who couldn't install Sun Java because you were using some tunnelling thing or something ridiculous. There's /usr/bin/java to actually run the java programs..17:25
lariousPolah: I am install this offline and I was ask to install it into /usr/java, but there is no directory called java in the usr directory17:25
odiocdavis:  gnome yes?17:25
cdavisodio: yes17:25
ohsixfrank_: ok, modprobe r8169, plug the ethernet cable in; you missed that step :P (also see if it works, ie no usb)17:25
ohsixprog: you're all done, now check temps in a half hour17:25
odiocdavis:   well try something simple  open Places/search for files,,, File system   and the name of the .deb package17:25
frank_ohsix: sorry about that. Okay, I'll (A) disconnect USB, (B) run modprobe r8169, (C) plug in ethernet and see if it works?17:26
Polahlarious: I don't know about manually installing Java.17:26
ohsixbenzaldehyde: he's the second person i've seen with the media/negotiation problem, and the first to run the tests to check17:26
ohsixfrank_: correct17:26
odiocdavis:  did you look in the directory of the files you turned into deb17:26
liwenjinjjjjj'17:26
agronholmhi, does anyone know how to get dead keys to work in Qt apps?17:26
frank_okay one sec17:26
cdavisodio: yes, seems very strange17:26
lariousPolah: Yah but in the site that I study http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting/ It want putting into the /usr/java17:26
lariousPolah: but I found the java folder in /usr/share17:27
Polahlarious: Hang on let me look at Sun Java on my serve.17:27
ohsixagronholm: good question, you probably will need to ask in a kde/qt user channel where there are users with dead keys, it's over my head at least (insofar i do not know why they would not be working, if its not a keymap with dead keys)17:27
benzaldehydeohsix: second person to have it working fine one minute then not at all the next. seems unlikeyl but i will take your word on that17:28
Polahlarious: Yeah I see no /usr/java. I can't help you, sorry.17:28
truepurpleFor radeon cards, would you guys recommend using the linux drivers off of amds website?17:28
rodhashohsix: adblock works on any advert.. flashblock works on flash in the websites.. will they help to protect my memory / performance?17:28
ohsixbenzaldehyde: computers are only deterministic by chance17:28
agronholmohsix: it's apparently only a problem in a gnome environment17:28
PolahTruepurple: How else would you do it?17:28
agronholmand dead keys work fine in gtk apps17:28
sipiorohsix: that's a lovely expression. mind if i steal it?17:28
agronholmbut if I press ¨ and a I am supposed to get ä but I only get ¨a17:29
ohsixrodhash: yes, ad images won't be loaded, which is significant; but bartab will save the most17:29
abahkaiyisahhelp, i lost my lubuntu username and password. what should i do ?17:29
ohsixsipior: sure17:29
genii-aroundlarious: Usually somewhere like /usr/lib/jvm/<specific-jave-versionnamehere>/bin17:29
ohsixsipior: or no, go ahead; agh, picking up my dad answering negativesw wrong17:29
frank_ohsix: I did what you said, still nothing, though eth0 showed up in ifconfig again. This time, there was no "PC Activity" light on the modem.17:29
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truepurplePolah: well perhaps there might be a better more unofficial driver?17:30
ohsixfrank_: ok thanks17:30
ohsixfrank_: no clear solution for you, but it confirms my suspicions17:30
frank_ohsix: what are your suspicions?17:30
agronholmohsix: I don't think #kde has much incentive to help with qt issues on gnome17:30
rodhashohsix: thanks... but firefox 4 has a native tab manager, hasn't it?17:30
lariousPolah: on your server where did you find java folder17:30
agronholmand I have no clue which channel I should be asking on17:30
truepurplePolah: Some people have said ATI doesn't have much for drivers17:30
Polahlarious: I have a /usr/share/java17:31
ohsixfrank_: problem with negotiations with that driver & some cable modems17:31
ohsixagronholm: "on" gnome?17:31
frank_ohsix: could I resinstall the driver or something?17:31
agronholmohsix: I have the stock ubuntu 10.1017:31
agronholmnot kubuntu or anything17:31
truepurpleHow do you alt-tab/switch between programs with ubuntu?17:31
frank_ohsix: i could probably get a new modem from Comcast and see if that helps17:31
lariousPolah: in the folder java, what and what do you find there17:32
porgohsix: Only DHCP loggs about every 30 min to syslog, besides this, nothing anymore. Fan still unchangedly loud.17:32
ohsixrodhash: it does, but it wont do what bartab does by default, and bartab lets you unload tabs manually; and it will shade the tab, all things the one in ff won't17:32
porgohsix: What shall we do now?17:32
sipiortruepurple: alt-tab doesn't work for you?17:32
ohsixporg: tell me the temp in a half hour17:32
ohsixfrank_: its not the modem17:32
truepurplesipior: Not when in battle for wesnoth for example17:32
frank_ohsix: can I resinstall the driver?17:32
porgohsix: Ok, I pause the machine, give it some time to cool off, then resume, then return to the chat. Ok?17:33
ohsixfrank_: you basicaqlly just did for all intents and purposes17:33
truepurplesipior: Is there a alternative command to alt tab?17:33
ohsixporg sure17:33
sipiortruepurple: try running the game in windowed mode17:33
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porgohsix: That Xsensors is reliable, isn't it?17:33
frank_ohsix: Do you think I sould get a new card?17:33
truepurplesipior: No good, ubuntu has a window sizing issue. I have to run things on a higher resolution due to my tiny monitor17:33
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sipiortruepurple: oh well.17:34
promehello17:34
ohsixfrank_: nah17:34
truepurplesipior: And so I can't see the full game if I have it in windowed mode17:34
porgohsix: Only a frontend to the CLI device data stuff we read, anyway? Right?17:34
promebrb17:34
wildc4rd_evenin all17:34
truepurplesipior: Is there a alternative command to alt tab?17:34
frank_ohsix: Okay, well thanks for your help. I'll jsut us a USB for the time being17:34
sipiortruepurple: not to my knowledge, no.17:34
lariousPolah: in the folder java, what and what do you find there17:34
frank_benzaldrehyde: thanks for your help too17:34
ray24My dictionary is broken17:34
porgohsix: Yes, I can confirm, they both now show 56 C.17:35
frank_Thanks everybody17:35
porgOk, see you in 30min. I really hope u r still here then, otherwise this long odysee would miss its good end!!!17:35
genii-aroundlarious: They have been gone from the channel for a while now17:35
porgohsix: Ok, see you in 30min. I really hope u r still here then, otherwise this long odysee would miss its good end!!!17:35
ray24I get this message when I search for words "Connection failed to the dictionary server at dict.org:2628"17:35
truepurplesipior: Ok I have download the driver of radeon 6xxx off of ATI website, how do I install it?17:35
ohsixfrank_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/714732 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/690730 contain recent changes in the driver for your ethernet card17:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 714732 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "Maverick update to 2.6.35.11 stable release" [High,Fix released]17:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 690730 in linux (Ubuntu) "Maverick update to 2.6.35.10 stable upstream" [Undecided,Fix released]17:36
monkeyDhey guys, I am looking fro an easy snapshot system tool like deep freez for linux but where you also can change the homefolder17:36
lariousgenii-around: can you help me please, having a java problem  on my system17:36
ohsixagtryfugiojok[p17:36
ohsixtoo bad he left17:37
ohsixoh well, there will be a third17:37
porgohsix: Will you be here then?17:37
lariousubottu: if I am installing Java, where can i find the dictory17:38
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:38
truepurpleHow do I install a driver?17:39
yoh_test17:39
benzaldehydelarious: ubottu is a bot17:39
lariousbenzaldehyd17:39
ohsixporg: yes17:39
lariousbenzaldehyde: ok but he talked to me yesterday17:39
BlackDragonTechyThe bot doesn't talk to you. It gives scripted responses based on triggers.17:39
ActionParsnipmonkeyD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17237417:40
nickordoes anyone have a  chess game recommendation for ubuntu?17:41
truepurpleHow do I install a ATI video card driver under ubuntu?17:41
benzaldehydeohsix: he has a habbit of doing that, almost makes the entire thing not worth talking to him about17:41
genii-aroundlarious: When you install a different java than the default, put it somewhere like where i told you. eg: usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/ or so. Then tell the system to use that instead of the usual one by adding it to the list of possible java choices. eg: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java 1       tells there is a new possible java binary now in that  /usr/lib/jvm path. Then : sudo update-17:41
genii-aroundalternatives java     to be able to tell the system to use that specific one17:41
iceroot_truepurple: depending on the driver17:41
iceroot_!ati | truepurple17:42
ubottutruepurple: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto17:42
truepurpleiceroot_: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English17:42
iceroot_truepurple: use the link from ubottu17:42
genii-aroundlarious: The last command given should be: sudo update-alternatives --config java    , sorry17:42
PusluskaHello! I'm having trouble with mye cable connection! I have an external IP, but I can't ping, can't get http, but I can stream web-TV. anyone knows what might be wrong?? *desperate*17:42
sjh518168大家好哦啊17:43
erUSULPusluska: what error do you get from ping?17:43
erUSUL!cn17:43
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk17:43
Pusluskaunknown host17:43
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benzaldehydePusluska: external ip?17:44
ohsixbenzaldehyde: that wont fix r816917:44
ohsix[5~17:44
nickorbrutal chess seems coo17:44
monkeyDhey guy, do you know a system snap shoot tool ?17:44
Craig`hey guys i just bought a tv to pc sound cable17:44
BluesKajI was away for a while checking on my old linksys router/modem ...I assumed most routers had modems but it seems now anything with ethernet ports qualifiies as a router , now I understand why benzaldehyde asked if I was joking ..we used to call them hubs , but I'm old so I'd better buck up on the new device definitions17:44
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krylhi17:45
Craig`when i plug it in i hear no sound on my tv (though when i plug my speakers in i hear the sound), i've went in volume control and assured i'm using the corrcet port etc but i'm not sure what else i should be doing. thanks.17:45
krylI don't know why but I have thousands of errors lines with : "[11638.308068] NVRM: os_raise_smp_barrier(), invalid context!"17:45
Pusluskayes, I've got an IP17:45
krylin syslog of course :)17:45
ohsixBluesKaj: hubs switches and routers are all different things, and they all have ethernet ports17:45
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BluesKajethernet hub then , ohsix17:46
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Rb_hi every117:46
ohsixBluesKaj: no, router; and a router has-a switch17:47
BluesKajheh, I still have a usb hub somewhere too17:47
benzaldehydeCraig`: you bought a tv to pc, card?17:47
Rb_is there anyone whose using 11.04 beta??17:47
fosterdvWhat you trying to do Rb_ ?17:47
benzaldehydeRb_: me17:48
llutz!11.04 | Rb_17:48
ubottuRb_: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems.17:48
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ohsixBluesKaj: a hub is an old piece of kit that broadcasts anything recieved at any port, a switch learns mac addresses and sends them to the right port directly, fewer collisions and way less traffic for computers you don't really care about17:48
Rb_i have a lost the sidebar ! how it back ?17:48
Craig`benzaldehyde: so i havent bought a card, only a sound cable, before i had the same setup (vga to vga and then a sound cable), though this time i needed a longer one so i've got dvi to dvi (which works fine) and a sound cable, though no sound is coming from it.17:48
SandossHello17:49
SandossAnybody here who can help me with a problem with installing Ubuntu Netbook?17:49
PiciRb_: Support for Natty is in #ubuntu+1, not #ubuntu17:49
Craig`benzaldehyde: http://www.logicsupply.com/images/photos/cables/RCAAudio_big.jpg is the cable17:49
webbHi guys.. Anyone here care to help me with WEBMIN?17:49
kamenSandoss: What's your problem with Ubuntu Netbook?17:49
lrussellhi17:50
truepurpleDang it, its downloading and installing a program, and I want it to stop, but its not respecting cancel or clicking the x17:50
Sandosskamen: When I install it from a usb drive I get an error when selecting 'install alongside other OS'17:50
monkeyDdoes anybody know deepfreez, there is a linux alternative called ofris, but I am looking for a tool that is more editable, with other word where you also can unfreez your homefolder17:50
benzaldehydeCraig`: why would you want the sound from your tv to go to your computer?17:50
truepurpleHow do I stop a program?17:50
lrussellwould ubuntu server run with a processor under 300 mhz?17:51
lrussellabout 280 mhz17:51
truepurpleSomeone, please help me quick17:51
ohsixlrussell: it would be quite a slog, but yes17:51
benzaldehydeRb_: join #ubuntu+117:51
Sandosskamen: I select install now which gives me an error "An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. The resize operation has been aborted.'17:51
Craig`benzaldehyde: i dont, i want the sound to go from my computer to my tv, fine a pc -> sound cablet hen.17:51
Craig`..17:51
lrussellI meant 450 mhz17:52
truepurpleHow do I stop a program from installing?17:52
lrussellyes, it would work fine i would think17:52
rodhashohsix: Just to let you and all know.. I just deactivated / reactivated the swap and it cleaned it up.. I'll try it when my SWAP takes lot of memory.. :)17:52
truepurpleHow do I stop a program from installing?17:52
slarikanslm17:52
benzaldehydeRb_: they can help you with natty17:52
kamenSandoss: Hmm, I see. You're trying to install a dual-boot system, right? Which partition are you installing Ubuntu on?17:52
llutztruepurple: sudo apt-get remove package17:52
kamenSandoss: i.e., sometimes (especially on Macs) you'd need to install Ubuntu in the second partition, so that the MBR is still available for the "official" OS.17:53
Pusluskawhy won't  http work on network cable when I can stream web-TV?17:53
ohsixrodhash: did you check with smem how much less memory it takes with adblock & bartab?17:53
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rodhashAnyone here knows if there's any problem deactivating / reactivating the swap? Does it harm my data or programs ?17:53
truepurplellutz: No, how do I stop it from installing in the first place??17:53
rodhashohsix: Yes, it was firefox17:53
Sandosskamen: I'm just installing it on a win7 netbook, and I wouldn't have a clue which partition. I haven't changed anything to factory settings if that helps17:53
kamenSandoss: Still, that shouldn't be giving you any trouble until you reboot after the installation. It sounds like you're having a problem with resizing partitions. Tricky. Is a clean install fully out of the question?17:53
truepurplellutz: Hurry please, else it will be too late17:53
CarlFKhow do I tell what repo these are coming from?  http://dpaste.de/oatE/   libjack-dev : Depends: libjack0 (= 1:0.118+svn3796-7ubuntu1) but 6:1.9.6~dfsg.1-3ubuntu2+fixes1~maverick2 is to be installed17:54
mancoHi people17:54
benzaldehydeCraig`: S-video can do picture and sound17:54
Sandosskamen: If by clean install you mean erasing the disc, it is indeed out of the question as I only want it for sporadic use\17:54
ohsixrodhash: i know, you mentioned that, i was just wondering if you did before & after and saw an appreciable difference17:54
CarlFKbenzaldehyde: S-video can do sound?17:55
Craig`benzaldehyde: as can hdmi.. i'm not asking for alternatives i'm asking what's wrong.17:55
promehello17:55
promei have a network issue17:55
Craig`this has worked before but with different sound cable, so i dont know if it's the cable or what.17:55
promeinternet connecting issue17:55
kamenSandoss: Hmmm, yes, then it might be a bit more complicated. To be honest, I've only done dual-boot installs on an old PPC Mac. Wouldn't know what the issues can be on a Win7 netbook. Can anyone else chip in with some advice?17:55
benzaldehydeCarlFK: well maybe not sound, i don't remember17:55
mancohey prome, know someone who can tell me where can i find crash logs ?17:56
lrusselldo you think a pc from 1996 with a 6gb main hd, 450 mhz processor,and a 1TB usb hd could run an ubuntu mirror? xD17:56
maheanuuwhat is the name of the ubuntu beginners channel?17:56
promemanco i didnt get u?17:56
CarlFKbenzaldehyde: "S-Video carries standard definition video (typically at 480i or 576i resolution), but does not carry audio on the same cable."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svideo17:56
aeon-ltdmaheanuu: just ask here....17:56
bamabige_join #gentoo17:56
ohsixmanco: /var/log; the apport crash reports are stored in there too17:57
promeI am unable to connect to the internet through DSL. I can use it in Windows 7 easily. I use a Broadband PPPoe with an user name and password along with a service name. I have set up a DSL in ubuntu and I have placed the required user name and password there and I have also entered the service name in the field between the username and password. But it shows to be disconnected every time i try17:57
prometo dial the connection.17:57
promeI have also tried with the "sudo ppoeconf" command and "setpppoe 1.0 software" and failed.17:57
sipiorlrussell: ram is likely the principal bottleneck.17:57
lrussellit has 384 mb of ram17:57
manco@prome: im also with a network issue, but it will crash/freeze the whole box.. i was wandering where i can find the logs for asking help in a more acurate way :)17:57
maheanuuI did several times and didn't get an answer, I am having a problem with media player trying to open any and all files and folders it is acting like file manager and I cannot seem to get out of this mode17:57
nickoris there website that shows ratings of ubuntu apps / games ?17:57
promehow to get the log17:58
sipiorlrussell: the server install should run fine on that, depending on what sort of paces you want to put it through...17:58
ohsixnickor: software-center has ratings17:58
promewhat is the command17:58
benzaldehydeCraig`: audio out seems to me that it would be just a matter of telling the audio where to go17:58
promeis it plog?17:58
monkeyDhey guys, nobody here who can help me ?:(17:58
bonjoyeeprome: does "sudo pppoe-discovery" give any output?17:58
promeOK17:58
sugoruyohi folks, anyone ever have trouble starting mysql on an ubuntu 10.10 server?17:58
syrinx_!ask | monkeyD17:58
ubottumonkeyD: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:58
promeBUT I WILL BE Late17:58
nickorwhere are the ratings located ohsix?17:58
wollexre17:59
mancosomeone, im having a network issue, but it will crash/freeze the whole box.. i was wandering where i can find the logs for asking help in a more accurate way :)17:59
ohsixsugoruyo: no more than regular, could your database need repaiting/checked?17:59
Seven_Six_Twomanco, /var/logs17:59
monkeyDsyrinx_: do you know a system snap shoot tool, or a system freez tool for linux like deepfreez, but where you also can unfreez your homefolder or where you can make snapshot of your system and loead them when ever you want18:00
lrussellwhat is better for a server, xubuntu, or ubuntu server.18:00
syrinx_lol18:00
syrinx_monkeyD: no, but ill check google18:00
manco@762: thanks, should i look for some file in particular ?  (i know its a wifi related issue, since it only crashes when im connectign or even with the wcard up)18:01
ikonialrussell: both are fine18:01
bonjoyeelrussell: server..if you dont need the gui..18:01
Seven_Six_TwomonkeyD, you want a backup solution? There are a bunch of ways.18:01
maheanuubeing a beginner, I would very much like to find the Ubuntu beginners group on freenode18:01
lrussellI wanted the gui, easier to work with18:01
sugoruyoohsix: maybe... how would i check? all i know how to do to check it is sudo service mysql status which says it's in "post-start/respawning" and a look at /var/log/mysql.err and .log shows them both empty18:01
bluenemoi have a black wallpaper and my text on my icons is also black. how to change it?18:02
bluenemoi want white text :)18:02
manco@762: thanks, should i look for some file in particular ?  (i know its a wifi related issue, since it only crashes when im connectign or even with the wcard up)18:02
bonjoyeelrussell: then you could try ubuntu server+ lxde ...its way lighter than xfce...18:02
Seven_Six_TwomonkeyD, dd is a command line utility that you can use to create an image of a partition. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem18:02
nickorohsix ive throughly explored the software center, it might be my bad eyes but I dont see ratings, is it possible I turned off the ability to see the ratings?18:02
lrussellhow do i conbine them?18:02
BluesKajCraig`, if you have hdmi connected to your tv and don't have audio , in some cases the graphics card with hdmi also requires a connection from the soundcard out to the graphics card audio input , if so equipped18:02
monkeyDsyrinx_: I didnt find something usefull, but I dont want to make an image of my partition18:03
monkeyDI want to lock my system18:03
monkeyDand unlock it if I want18:03
monkeyDsyrinx_: do you know deepfreez ?18:03
ruanbluenemo: edit your theme?18:03
ohsixnickor: and my eyes might be colored by natty; if they aren't there in mav they're on the way :D18:03
rodhashGuys is there any way to highlight messages sent to me? I'm new in IRC and sometimes I got lost with too many messages18:03
manco@monkeyD>  ctrl+alt+L  ?18:03
bluenemoruan, where can i find that?18:03
ruanbluenemo: right click desktop, change background, themes, customize18:04
nickordouble reference i didnt get, thats rare18:04
ohsixsugoruyo: there are tools w/mysql to check the tables & the manual is pretty great, but if the logs are empty it could be any number of things18:04
nickorno edbian today :(18:04
syrinx_monkeyD: yea, we had it at my high school18:04
s3rri just chown 777 / and fucked everything up18:05
ohsixwow18:05
s3rrssh wont even accelt connections18:05
monkeyDsyrinx_: its a great tool, and you can choose with partitoons or folders you want to freez18:05
s3rraccept*18:05
Seven_Six_TwomonkeyD, well any normal user can't make system troubles, but if you want to create a template for new user directories (the only part that can give trouble), there is a skel directory somewhere. maybe /etc18:05
syrinx_monkeyD: you could just lock your home folder18:05
sipiors3rr: time to consult your backups...18:05
ohsixmonkeyD: what you're looking for can probably be done with lvm, or one of the filesystems with it built in18:06
monkeyDsyrinx_: I want to lock all the folder and unlock my homefolder, with otherwords I want only be able to save files but nothing on my system18:06
s3rrsipior: no way to restore even with physical access to the server?18:06
Craig`BluesKaj: i said that hdmi would have worked.. i didn't say that i was using hdmi18:06
sugoruyoohsix: there is another log file in /var/log/mysql/error.log which has some entries with today's date, but they're three hours ahead of current time, i'm worried it might have something to do with it18:06
ruan!language18:06
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:06
sipiors3rr: sure. set every permission set by hand. have fun.18:06
ohsixs3rr: not completely18:06
syrinx_*facepalm*18:06
Craig`as i said i have a pc -> tv sound card, showed in the link i provided18:07
monkeyDmanco: what is ctrl+alt+L  ?18:07
ruanubottu, wake up18:07
bluenemoruan, thank you got it18:07
s3rrawesome..18:07
sugoruyothe server is hosted in a vm (host Ubuntu 10.10, guest Ubuntu Server 10.10, vmware)18:07
lrussellhi18:07
lrusselllol18:07
Seven_Six_TwomonkeyD, and if someone trashes their account, that's the logical place to have a template.18:07
ohsixs3rr: debsums might be able to do it, but i don't think so; you'd need to reinstall every package and manually fix hundreds of directories18:07
lollrussell: yes?18:07
ruanubottu: why are you sleeping :(18:07
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:07
mancoSeven_Six_Two: which file should i look into on /var/log after a crash.. ?  (i think is network related.. )18:08
Seven_Six_TwomonkeyD, what do you mean by "nothing on the system"?  If you don't want system changes, don't do anything requiring root.18:08
lrussellhow do i use rsync to mirror a ftp server, automaticly18:08
ohsixsugoruyo: it might, ntpdate a time server & try andget it close to real time18:08
ikonialrussell: depends if your ftp site is anonymous18:08
lrusselland lol, bad name.18:08
lrussellit is anomas18:08
lollol18:08
ikonialrussell: just treat it as rsyncing a website then18:09
hwildewhen using apt-get with --download-only option, is there a way to change the location where the files are downloaded?  or to have them wrapped up in a nice tar file?   (for when there are 100 dependencies)18:09
ruanlol: lol18:09
lrusselllol: lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol18:09
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ikonialrussell: please don't18:09
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ohsixhwilde: you'd need to use -o to set one of the APT:: options, specifically the archive location18:09
lrussellikonia: how do i make it automaticly download changes?18:10
Seven_Six_Twomanco, it depends on what you were doing. If your system crashed or froze, it could be logged elsewhere. try dmesg  before reboot. look in /var/logs/messages  in console, go to /var/logs and type  ls -lrt     most recent files should be at the bottom of the list. check them all18:10
sugoruyoohsix: i have done that, the vm's clock seems to be pretty crappy for some reason... maybe 'cause i start/supsend it all the time18:10
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ikonialrussell: just set it to run on a regular basis, it will pickup the changes18:10
lrussellhow though?18:10
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weecolany i have help finding a work organisation18:10
hwildeohsix, yes, -o to set options... any idea how which example?18:10
ikonialrussell: crontab for running at a regular basis, and rsync is the tool to use18:11
lrussellim gonna use xubuntu18:11
hwildeohsix, I need to just download the .debs and move them to another machine without internet, but this one has about 100 dependencies...18:11
syrinx_for a server?18:11
ohsixsugoruyo: maybe, ntpdate should be ran on resume if its really bad, and ntpd in between18:11
Seven_Six_Twomanco, hard disk troubles can do bad things for you too, but might only appear when you're downloading (trying to write to bad drive)18:11
ikonialrussell: that's fine, xubuntu is fine18:11
WobsAnyone got a second to answer a quick question? I am installing Ubuntu for the first time ever because I keep hearing from friends how awesome it is. I have this weird problem where the installation get's stuck at "updating the list of avalible packages" :|18:12
ruanhwilde: download em all and dpkg *.deb18:12
lrussellis there a tutorial anywhere that can guide me through setting up the server, rsync, and everything18:12
ohsixhwilde: you might try this instead of doing it manually http://keryxproject.org/18:12
syrinx_Wobs: is your internet plugged in?18:12
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, did you opt to connect during the install, or after the reboot? are you on wireless?18:12
ikonialrussell: tons of info on the web, and "man rsync" for the options18:12
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mancoSeven_Six_Two: yes, it will crash/freeze completly (not only GUI, but console also) so no dmesg aviable before reboot. I narrowed it to a network issue, Only while connected via Wifi.. not ethernet, nor with wifi card down...18:12
sugoruyoohsix: i might just set up ntpd and not supsend but poweroff instead18:12
arosenHello, I'm running 10.04 and right now I'm getting the following error message on boot up. /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)  Any idea's how to fix this?18:13
lrussellikonia: what is "man rsync"18:13
monkeyDSeven_Six_Two: ok here we go :)  well, deep freez is a tool that creates a "copy" of your system but you dont notice it, you can choose a partition that you want to freez, for exampe c:\, if its freezed I can delet all folders, put a virus on it and make any bad things with it that you can imagine, after a reboot you will get the same system that you freezed, because it deletes the virtual copy of your system and creates a new one, but other par18:13
ikonialrussell: a command to see the options for rsync18:13
sugoruyoohsix: for now i just need to get mysql back up so i can get on with things...18:13
lrusselloh18:13
syrinx_lrussell: man is the manual18:13
Seven_Six_Twomanco, do any keyboard lights flash when it freezes?18:13
ohsixhwilde: as for the option, i'd have to look it up too, but its in the apt documentation18:13
WobsSeven_Six_Two: It checked my internet connection at the start and said everything was ok. I keep waiting for a timeout to happen or something, but it ain't :|18:13
lrussellis rsync automaticly installed on xubuntu18:13
monkeyDSeveas: I know ofris but it freezes your whole system :(18:13
ohsixsugoruyo: i can't offer much more, i haven't used mysql in some time18:13
ikonialrussell: if not, it's easy to install with the package manager18:14
mancoSeven_Six_Two: yes, bloqnum does blink..18:14
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, it might be that there is a server issue. I know that Waterloo (canada) had hardware issues recently18:14
rodhashGuys what IRC client do you suggest me? Actually I'm using pidgin18:14
lrussellok, thanks for all the help! :D you guys are the greatest. im a linux newbie.18:14
WobsSeven_Six_Two: Would it not time out thought? been like this for about 15 minutes, should I just pull the internet plug and hope it times out?18:14
mancoroadhash: im using xChat... quite pleased..18:14
ohsixrodhash: irssi, grit your teeth and bear it18:14
Seven_Six_Twomanco, I'm not sure what bloqnum is, but if it's caps lock, scroll lock, or num lock, then you are likely having a kernel panic. Bad driver.18:15
rodhashhehe18:15
rodhashthanks18:15
ohsixrodhash: it's a workhorse, and you can screen it18:15
sugoruyoohsix: i was wondering if perhaps you (or someone else reading this) might be able to point me to a way to monitor mysql's startup process to see where it hangs18:15
Wobsohsix: What ya mean grit your teeth? Irssi is awesome, alternatively you can use quassel18:15
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, can you go back?18:15
BluesKajSeven_Six_Two, I'm on the Waterloo repos ...haven't had a prob so far.18:15
rodhashohsix: Does it accept other protocols like msn, xmpp, etc?18:15
ohsixWobs: it is, but theres a learning curve not present with things other people would suggest18:15
WobsSeven_Six_Two: It's stuck on "installing the base system" 73% "updating the list of available pacakges" i did a disk check and this is hte second tiem trying18:15
lrussellis there a good vnc server for xubuntu, it will be my only way to change settings on my server18:15
monkeyDSeven_Six_Two: so any ideas ?18:15
iceroot_rodhash: irssi is not what you are looking for i guess (but its the best client out there) i guess you want a gui client like xchat18:15
Seven_Six_TwoBluesKaj, oh, then they're fixed. that was a few days ago18:15
ohsixrodhash: no, but you can use bitlbee & connect to it like an irc server18:16
rodhashok, let me try18:16
monkeyDSeven_Six_Two: I heared that there is a snapshot tool for linux18:16
sipiormonkeyD: LVM2 gives you that sort of functionality (filesystem snapshots)18:16
mancoSeven_Six_Two: sorry, i was looking a spanish keyboard, yes, its Num lock. Kernel panic.. ok.. so that should be on the kern.log right ?18:16
s3rrsipior: false alarm, got into shell after a reboot.  looking at history i did: sudo chown 777 -r /18:16
Seven_Six_TwomonkeyD, not exactly. that sounds like a live cd to me. almost.18:16
lrusselloh, sorry wrong channel18:16
ohsixrodhash: theres online help and its all rather comprehensible18:16
monkeyDsipior: going to try it mate :)18:17
s3rrsipior: i do now instead get sudo: must be setuid root18:17
catphishi am having a problem with sshd not starting on boot because the interface it's listening on isn't ready18:17
Dice-Mani believed the sudo cmd was prohibed18:17
lrussellim still here... xD18:17
catphishis there any way to delay the start of sshd a little?18:17
catphishor continually attempt to spawn it18:17
Travis-42_Empathy is telling me that the facebook certificate is "self-signed" Has anyone else noticed this? Or might something fishy be going on?18:17
WobsSeven_Six_Two: I will just try pulling the internet wire :p18:18
Seven_Six_Twomanco, a panic might happen before a log write can happen. look at the most recent logs, esp kern.log and I think the otherone is messages. I thought there was a kernel oops log.18:18
mancocatphish: you can use de "wait" command..18:18
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, are you 100% sure it's not working? it might take a while18:18
ohsixcatphish: it should depend on networking being up first, how are you starting networking & sshd, letting the init scripts do it?18:18
fosterdvQuestion, does anyone know of any good methods to make the logs rotate?18:18
llutzfosterdv: logrotate ;)18:18
catphishohsix: manco: i'm using upstart18:18
ohsixfosterdv: they already rotate18:19
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, can you get to a terminal?  Alt+ctrl+F118:19
catphishand it seems that even though sshd depends on networking, it runs too soon18:19
ohsixsugoruyo: you could try starting it manually18:19
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ohsixsugoruyo: i've had luck with running "set -x" before running the script to start it too18:19
WobsSeven_Six_Two: 15 minutes :|18:19
WobsSeven_Six_Two: The hard drive working light is not being lit either18:20
mancocatphish: strange.. im running it on 10.04 server with no issues on boot.. (sorry, dont know upstart)18:20
mkanyicywhen I joined this channel I just went to #ubuntu-regged, should I be concerned?18:20
catphishmanco: you're probably not using sshd with a listen address18:20
Dr_Willismkanyicy:  if you dont identify your nick fast enugh you can get sent there.18:21
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hwildehow to change software sources mirror from command line   (like gksu software-properties-gtk  but in ubuntu server)18:21
Dr_Willismkanyicy:  its a anti-spam feature18:21
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, sorry, I have to go to school. If it's downloading it might take a while. see if you can open a terminal and make sure you have an ip and that you can ping. if you can, I'd give it a while longer than that. It's downloading everything that is newer than what's on the disc18:21
mancocatphish: mm.. no, just seted on a particular port.. and for the inbound i use dyndns..18:21
llutzcatphish: how do you configure network, network-manager or ifupdown?18:21
ohsixhwilde: those files are in /etc/apt/sources.list(.d)18:21
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, and if you can get a terminal, check dmesg to see if there are any errors reported.18:21
unobuenas18:21
Wobsno.....could it be it has just frozen? :O18:22
mancocatphish: good luck with that.. :)18:22
mancouno: hola..18:22
fosterdvohsix: currently, my logs aren't rotating.. my logs are the same logs that I started with in November, and all new entries are appending to them18:22
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, what version are you installing? Where did you get the cd?18:22
WobsSeven_Six_Two: Weird if it has frozen at the exact spot 2 times in a row. I cna't get to terminal seems frozen18:22
ohsixfosterdv: hm odd18:22
mancoSeven_Six_Two: will search those logs.. thanks a lot18:22
catphishseems the solution was to set "start on started network-interface", "start on started network" didn't work18:22
ohsixfosterdv: did you change the syslog daemon or anything?18:22
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, does Alt+ctrl+F1 do anything?18:22
catphishsleep might be a good idea too though18:22
Seven_Six_Twomanco, no problem.18:23
fosterdvohsix: no sir, I haven't made any changes.. but, would I look there to make changes?18:23
ohsixfosterdv: well its related18:23
WobsSeven_Six_Two: I can try a third time, and this time without installing LVM (not completly sure what it was but from the wiki it seemed useful)18:23
fosterdvohsix, okay.. I'll look into that. Thank you.18:23
ohsixfosterdv: do you want to rotate by date or size? default seems to be size18:23
hwildeohsix, and how do I run the utility to change them nicely18:24
fosterdvohsix: I am trying by date.18:24
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ohsixhwilde: on server i don't think there is one18:24
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, I don't use it, for that reason! That's a good idea. and I had issues with mixing ext3 and ext4, so I would recommend using one or the other.18:24
ohsixfosterdv: ok you'll need to do that manually then, one sec18:24
hwildeohsix, why can't I run gksu software-properties-gtk  over ssh -X?   I can run xclock and things like that and it pops up the display remotely18:24
mkanyicyDr_Willis, ok, thanks for that18:24
iceroot_hwilde: what about "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list"?18:25
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, if it's download disc, make sure to md5 the iso, and also check disc for defects18:25
fosterdvohsix: Thank you18:25
porgohsix: The very good news: Fan rotates on mid or even silent level contrary to the loud level observed before!!! The bad news: I cannot surely isolate a causal event/reason, and hence help other Toshiba users, as multiple things happened: a) With your help I removed the toshiba_bluetooth kernel module, hence have far less syslog activity, hence less disk access. Sensor remains at 52C now compared to previously 57C! But besides this I al18:25
WobsSeven_Six_Two: No ctrl + alt + f1 does nothing.18:25
hwildeiceroot_, I need the cool little applet that searches for the fastest mirror18:25
porgohsix: Abort reading. I paste this into a box.18:25
WobsSeven_Six_Two: Thanks for the help dude! I already did a disk check and it was fine. Terminal is frozen and no lights from the comp. Eve3rything seems dead. I will just install normall18:25
WobsSeven_Six_Two: Thanks for the help again! :D18:25
iceroot_hwilde: wget or ping :)18:26
ohsixfosterdv: look at /etc/logrotate.conf and /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog18:26
porgohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589348/18:26
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, no problem! Come back if you have any questions!18:26
Erixhi18:26
fosterdvohsix: Thank you for that, I'll do it right now.18:26
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hwildeiceroot_, why can't I run it remotely over ssh -X ?   I can run stuff like xclock and it pops up the display just fine18:26
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WobsSeven_Six_Two: Yeah I might just stick aroudn til leverything works. ALthough I dbout hte disk is broken as i assume the whole "updating" thing is based from the web18:26
rodhash_hi18:26
iceroot_hwilde: i dont know18:27
WobsSeven_Six_Two: That was some horrible spelling...sorry T.T18:27
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, it's easier on you if you don't update during the install too, as there are more options if something goes wrong18:27
rodhash_ohsix, I'm in (irssi) but that's weird I can't find you with 'tab'..18:27
ohsixporg: if thats all you did then it would have no impact18:27
ohsixrodhash_: theres an ohzie, type more :D18:27
WobsSeven_Six_Two: ok thanks. I pulled the plug on the net, going to install without the LVM. I just read on a forum thread that I would hate myself if i needed it later but did not have it :P18:28
rodhash_ohsix, yep.. ohsize I found.. is it you too?18:28
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rodhash_ohsix: oh I got it..18:28
porgSo neither "GPU driver update", nor share "WLAN device" were the cause for 5C temp drop. We can surely say that the lower disk write has caused that temp drop?18:28
maheanuuWhy has music player taken over as "file manager in my ubuntu 10.10  machine, I try to go to my external hard disk and music player wants to open and load everything18:28
rodhash_hehe18:28
rodhash_:P18:28
Dr_WillisWobs:  ive never needed lvm :)18:28
ohsixporg: paste the output of smartctl -x /dev/sda (it will be long)18:28
porgohsix: So neither "GPU driver update", nor share "WLAN device" were the cause for 5C temp drop. We can surely say that the lower disk write has caused that temp drop?18:28
ohsixmaheanuu: you have a mime type problem18:29
ohsixporg: indeed18:29
WobsDr_Willis: Yeah I am completly new to ubuntu and going to use it as a server cause i kept hearing how awesome it was. It just seemed usefull :p18:29
rodhash_ohsix: This is a very cool client heim.. Thanks for the advice :-)18:29
Dr_Willismaheanuu:  i bookmarked a URL with info on fixing that  - its at my http://delicious.com/dr_willis page. its like one of the 3 most recently bookmarks18:29
maheanuuoshix, how do I get this dilemma solved?18:29
ohsixmaheanuu: you picked "folder" to only open with media player, you can do it again and set it back to nautilus18:29
rodhash_help18:30
porgohsix: I guess u r onbly interested in the HD temp sensor. Right?18:30
ohsixmaheanuu: theres also a file you can edit but i can't remember the name18:30
rodhash_sorry, ignore my previous msg18:30
Dr_WillisWobs:  i doubt if you need lvm.  Unless you are going to be doing some big fancy server stuff.18:30
ohsixporg: i'm interested in the output of that command, it will include the temperature18:30
porgohsix: HD is at 43 C18:30
porgI know smartmontools by heart ;-) I use it a lot on various platforms (as I am a sysadmin too)18:31
WobsDr_Willis: nah just peronsla use for SVN and voice servers, maybe a game server18:31
porgohsix: I don't want to show other output, as i m kind of ashamed for the HD (reallocated blocks etc)18:31
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, that does look pretty handy, but I've never needed anything like that. I manually set my partition sizes to what I want, and they've stayed.18:31
ohsixporg: don't be, but msg if you like18:32
porgohsix: So is that temparature value enough for you? It is 43 C.18:32
ohsixporg: the smartctl output contains temperature history and other info i want to see18:32
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, and I'm running a web server and a diaspora node.18:32
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maheanuuIt doesn't seem to matter whether or not I left or rt click on any folder it automatically brings up music player...   docs , drives anything is brought up in music player18:33
WobsSeven_Six_Two: Dude go, don't be like me. Always late for uni! :P18:33
porgohsix: Ok but i ll anonimize it by removing the serial nr18:33
rodhash_Now in xchat, :P18:33
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, lol. you're right.   ;)18:33
Seven_Six_TwoI'm a junkie!!!18:33
ohsixporg: as you wish18:33
rodhash_test18:33
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Travis-42_Ubuntu doesn't seem to have the digicert CA installed in ca-certificates. Is this on purpose?18:34
ohsixrodhash_: i don't mind, but this isn't really a place to try out the fit :P18:34
ohsixTravis-42_: if it were i'm sure you'd want a much more authoratative answer than you can get here18:35
Dr_Willismaheanuu:  did you look at -> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/18:35
porgohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589351/18:35
maheanuuorsix, How do I get to folder?18:35
Travis-42_ohsix, true, but maybe someone would know where to look. it's odd because it means that core Ubuntu software like Empathy can't authenticate facebook chat and some other things18:36
alecbenzerhttps://gist.github.com/902032 why does that happen? if a .so is in my path shouldn't binaries be able to find them?18:36
porgohsix: 44 (Lifetime Min/Max 4/55)18:36
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Dr_Willisalecbenzer:  in your PATH or in your LIBPATH?18:36
WobsSeven_Six_Two: stuck on 73%....again18:36
Dr_Willisor was it LIB_PATH18:37
WobsSeven_Six_Two: I dont think i fixed the harddisk ext stuff though gonna do that properly now .P18:37
porgohsix: But the max could have been anytime within the 8791 Power_On_Hours18:37
alecbenzerDr_Willis: both LIBPATH and LIB_PATH are empty for me... I didn't know there was such a thing... checking it out18:37
ohsixporg: i knoe :P thanks for the info, i have nothing new to add18:37
ohsixporg: theres one more thing you might want to do18:38
nickorsomeone woke up on the snarky side of the ubuntu help channel today. :p18:38
porgohsix: Just wanted to show myself as a little smarta** ;-)18:38
cdavisIs there a torrent for the nightly build?18:38
porgohsix: No, but joking aside, maybe that 55C indeed happened just before, would fit together somehow with that reported 57C.18:38
mbeierlDr_Willis: did you mean LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? :)18:38
ohsixporg: the output of sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda please18:39
porgohsix: FYI the HD is in the lower right, the airslot in the mid left of the case (laptop case seen from above)18:39
r0ute-hoI've just stuck a second video card into my machine (two monitors connected to original one). I've manually edited xorg.conf like so : http://pastebin.com/PsFnE7yy - However I can still only get display via one card at a time. If I comment out the second "Device" display comes via the 3rd monitor, if left as it is I only get the original two monitors via the first card. Anyone got any pointers?18:39
ohsixporg: i've had recent problems with disks temps and ubuntu; this might help lowert things even further18:39
truepurpleohsix: or someone: HELP please, I shut down my PC during installation of some video card installation and now the desktop is all messed up18:41
porgohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589356/18:41
oldos2ertruepurple, can you boot into reovery mode? what make/model video card?18:42
renzo_sabayonhi everyone18:42
cdavisIs there a torrent for the nightly build?18:42
porgohsix: Power Management feature set. If you wanted to look on this...18:42
Dr_Willismbeierl:  that sounds about rght. :) i know the libs have a differnt path then exe's18:42
porgohsix: I already start to think like you ;-)18:42
porgohsix: Searching for similar evidence...18:43
Dr_Williscdavis:  i think there is. but the nightly build may not even boot ptoperly since its not as tested.18:43
mbeierlDr_Willis: I thought that might have been what you were aiming for, but didn't want to jump in if I misunderstood.  Good stuff18:43
maheanuuDr Willis, thank you ever so much ....   I have been looking for hours for that, I followed your advice and things now seem to be great, I did an open with and somehow it decided to take over completely18:43
truepurpleoldos2er: I don't know how to try to boot into recovery mode. Radeon 685018:43
porgohsix: FYI this laptop was in use within my uncle's company and solely used under WinXP18:44
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renzo_sabayoni'm having a little problem with access on my windows7 partition...i mount it in a folder (/media/windows) whose owner is my user (and ls -l gives me rwx on my user), and in my fstab i wrote ntfs as type (it's windows 7) and defaults,users as optiions! i can browse it, but i cannot move files in it, either if i'm user or root!! can you give me some hints,please?18:45
oldos2ertruepurple, choose reovery mode from the grub menu. If you don't see a menu, hold down the left Shift key after POST18:45
ohsixporg: ok one last suggestion18:45
maheanuuDr Willis, I am sorta located over the end of the world, I have no linux users closer than 150 air miles from me and that is 150 miles of open ocean pretty hard to get help in english also18:45
r0ute-horenzo_sabayon: Is it an NTFS partition?18:46
Dr_Willismaheanuu:  theres a check box thta is checked by default.. watch out for it. :)18:46
renzo_sabayonyes of course18:46
renzo_sabayonr0ute-ho, yes18:46
ohsixporg: in order to benefit most from this you'll have to watch it for a while after you change it, add this to /etc/hdparm.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/589357/18:46
Dr_Willisrenzo_sabayon:  you want to use ntfs-3g not ntfs.18:46
Dr_Willis!ntfs-3g | renzo_sabayon18:46
ubotturenzo_sabayon: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions18:46
r0ute-horenzo_sabayon: I haven't mounted an NTFS parition for a while but it always used to be read only, use this instead http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/18:47
truepurpleoldos2er: I still don't see any menu, just a command prompt18:47
ohsixporg: and what you have to watch out for for a while is 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   065   065   000    Old_age   Always       -       35027418:47
fisixcan anybody suggest chat clients other than pidgin that support custom emoticons for msn/wlm?18:47
ohsixporg: if it increases more than a few times a day undo the changes18:47
monkeyDI dont have xorg.config in my X11 folder, why and what does it means ?18:48
oldos2ertruepurple, if you see a command prompt, grub has already loaded the OS.18:48
Dr_WillismonkeyD:  xorg.conf is not needed by many systems these days.18:48
renzo_sabayonmmmm....strange...i remember that i used to move files in there with only ntfs, but there was a windows XP before...not a 718:48
r0ute-homonkeyD: the latest versions of Ubuntu don't have an xorg.conf by default18:48
alesanhi18:48
oldos2erreboot and try again18:48
ohsixporg: but only if you've had it on AC the whole period, cuz on battery it is expected that the4 drive spin down18:48
zertyuihello there18:48
renzo_sabayonso, has 7 changed ntfs protocol?18:48
alesanwhat is the latest stable version of thunderbird I can install?18:48
r0ute-horenzo_sabayon: no, NTFS has always been read only18:48
truepurpleoldos2er: Ok so now what?18:48
Dr_Willisrenzo_sabayon:  ntfs-3g is the next generation of ntfs fs drivers.. use it.18:48
zertyuiis there any ncoherence  when you mysql and PostgreSQL on ubuntu lucid ?18:48
zertyuii18:49
renzo_sabayonwell....probably i have bad memory :) thank you so much guys!18:49
zertyuihello18:49
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zertyuiis there any incoherence  when you mysql and PostgreSQL on ubuntu lucid ?18:49
oldos2ertruepurple, run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'18:49
wasutton3does anyone know of a well supported usb tv tuner taht also has an fm radio?18:49
monkeyDDr_Willis: ok, but I have an old system with a sis vga and it flicks and I have to edit the xorg.conf18:50
zertyuii mean on a same machine18:50
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, does it say what it's doing when it stops?18:50
ibrahimhi may any body help me to solve sound problem?18:50
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DMDeanis there any way of making 2 video files into one but having them as a split screen video? I read that you can use avisynth but not entirely sure how to get it lol18:50
ohsixporg: those settings will cool your hd off even more though :D18:50
WobsI don't get it...I just don't get it. Why is it stuck on 73%!? :(18:50
porgohsix: I have applied your changed to the config file. I will monitor Load_Cycle_Count maybe with a script regularly triggered by cron18:51
Seven_Six_Twoibrahim, you only have to ask your question. people here are here to help or to get help. no need to ask if you can ask.18:51
truepurpleoldos2er: Someone in the linux channel suggested dpkg-reconfigure -a, what is the difference between that and what you suggested?18:51
ohsixporg: just note the value and check in a week :] though smartd can be configured to tell you when that parameter has changed18:52
Seven_Six_TwoWobs, what step is it stuck on? You might have to download the other install disc. Extras, or something like that. Or if you have the option, do a text mode install18:52
ohzieohsix: I dear.18:52
ohzieOh dear*18:52
oldos2ertruepurple, dpkg-reconfigure -a reconfigures all packages. the command I gave you only reconfigures xorg18:52
ohsixonoes18:52
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truepurpleoldos2er:  And what is xorg?18:52
porgohsix: I m still not sure whether I can trust your estimation relating to the heat cause being mostly HD related. Because: When i ran the GParted from UBCD, and this runs entirely from RAM and should not access HD at all, the fan also ran like wild. I still think Linux cannot optimally handle the fan...18:53
Dr_WillismonkeyD:  you can make an xorg.conf if you wanted to.  every time i hear 'sis'  mentioned...  its always a disaster in linux. :)18:53
ibrahimSeven_Six_Two : i have a problem in sound such that nothing is muted and no sound18:53
ohsixporg: well ubcd isn't a known quantity, it could be broke there as well, but we can't exactly fix it18:53
Seven_Six_Twoibrahim, sorry, I'm on my way out...no time right now18:54
ibrahimSeven_Six_Two: ok18:54
ohsixporg: its important to note that "ubuntu" doesn't have the problem, it contains software that does18:54
porgNo UBCD booted GParted, I definetely choose "run from RAM", then it ejected the optical disk. So it only runs on RAM. But I check again, maybe my memory is clowded...18:54
porgohsix: No UBCD booted GParted, I definetely choose "run from RAM", then it ejected the optical disk. So it only runs on RAM. But I check again, maybe my memory is clowded...18:55
ohsixporg: right but ubcd could actually have a bug that runs the fan all the time, thats what i meant18:55
oldos2ertruepurple, xserver-xorg is the software that enables your graphics18:55
truepurpleoldos2er: What is xorg?18:55
porgohsix: Maybe you can give me a little explanation how Linux handles PM.18:55
truepurpleoldos2er: Is there a possible disadvantage of reconfiguring all?18:56
ohsixporg: well what we've been dealing with is entirely acpi & its knobs, "power management" is something else and altogether boring18:56
porgohsix: UBCD is only used to start other environments such as FreeDOS or Linux, etc. After calling your particular OS, there is no more UBCD running"18:56
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ohsixporg: theres documentatin in the kernel tree, Documentation/power18:57
oldos2ertruepurple, usually not, but I don't know anything about your system18:57
porgohsix: I ll read some wikipedia on ACPI, and come back in a few mins ;-)18:57
ohsixporg: that link i gave you earlier about the interface is all you need to really know18:58
kundanHi, i am getting a dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.10.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):18:58
kundanhow do I fix this18:58
truepurpleoldos2er: With this, would you know of a way to cancel the process? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172139118:58
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just_some_dudexubuntu 10.04, xfce 4.6: i have cairo-dock loaded at start up, but every time i reboot, i get an additional instance of cairo-dock. eg - first boot=2 cairo-docks, second  boot=3 cairo-docks, third boot=4 cairo-docks... how can i fix this?18:59
mehdihey guys how can i use app store?19:00
truepurpleoldos2er: It says it must be run as root19:00
zertyuihello tehre19:01
zertyuiis there anyone here19:01
zertyui?19:01
porgohsix: ohsix , u mean http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt;h=b61e46f449aa1e0bf376de21ddf2eec55c196a39;hb=HEAD#l15219:01
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oldos2ertruepurple, put 'sudo' in front of the command to run it as root19:01
zertyuibullshit what is this19:02
zertyuiwhy floodbot spaming ?19:02
royale1223How do i fix deleted /home/ folder?19:02
botcity!language zertyui19:02
erUSULroyale1223: recover the files?19:02
zertyuiyes i speak english ?19:03
erUSUL!undelete | royale122319:03
ubotturoyale1223: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel19:03
mehdiwat can i do with my ipot touch to dl apps from app store? while i cant use iTunes?19:03
oldos2erroyale1223, google 'testdisk'19:03
zertyuiwell19:03
zertyuihow to install postgresql ?19:03
truepurpleoldos2er: Ok I did it, but nothing seem to happen other then it asking for my password. Restart anyway?19:03
zertyuiPostgreSQL and -dev package too ?19:03
erUSULzertyui: sudo apt-get install postgresql19:03
royale1223EruSUL: no, just make the installation usable, i have no hope of recovering files19:04
oldos2ertruepurple, try rebooting. Sorry I don't know much about ATI cards, I use Nvidia19:04
zertyuiand for postgresql -dev package ?19:04
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tomatobrosroyale1223:  why u don't try to create a new user if don't care about recovering files ?19:05
promehey19:05
porgohsix: Without to much techtalk in simplified words, on the Mac PM works like this: There s a dedicated unit inside the mac ("computer in the computer"), which measures and controls, and which does "as much cooling as necessary". The OS can communicate with that device, and instruct it to use "more cooling if desired", but if it attempts to instruct less cooling then what would be healthy, that PM-device rejects that instruction from th19:05
promei m back19:05
promeremember with the pppoe-discovery command19:05
truepurpleoldos2er: It didn't work19:05
royale1223Tomatobros: just adduser?19:05
17SAAAJUWhi all19:05
erUSULroyale1223: jusr recreate the home folder « sudo mkdir /home/ » then create the user's home folders « for user in user1 user 2user3; do sudo mkdir /home/"$user" && sudo chown "$user:$user" /home/"$user"; done »19:06
tomatobrosyes add a new user that's it if don't remove any system files there is no problem19:06
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oldos2ertruepurple, maybe your forum post will generate some responses19:06
promehello19:06
swietlica5hejo19:06
promei have internet connecting problem19:06
zertyuifloobot flooding unbeliave,  i can't work in this condition19:06
porgohsix: And another conceptual question: Is the BIOS only running at boot time, and then disploaced by the OS which boots, or does the BIOS run constantly? Is the BIOS some sort of firmware?19:06
jason^i deleted a repo from my sources.list file and ran apt-get update, but it seems like it still thinks the repo exists, is there a way to purge the old repo information out?19:06
promethrough DSL19:06
zertyuiwhere are the moderator19:07
zertyuican't believe it19:07
porgohsix: As said, the PC world is very unknown to me, I m on the Mac platform since 1992.19:07
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promeI am unable to connect to the internet through DSL. I can use it in Windows 7 easily. I use a Broadband PPPoe with an user name and password along with a service name. I have set up a DSL in ubuntu and I have placed the required user name and password there and I have also entered the service name in the field between the username and password. But it shows to be disconnected every time i try19:07
prometo dial the connection.19:07
porgohsix: Gone through all the changes. Enjoyed UNIX functionalities since OSX, and then later developed interest in Linux.19:08
promei have used the pppoe-discovery command19:08
bonjoyeejason^: try /var/lib/apt/lists19:08
ray24Hi, my ubuntu dictionary seems to be broken19:08
bonjoyeejason^: look into that folder..19:08
tomatobrosprome is your modem connect with usb ?19:08
erUSULroyale1223: where user1 user2 etc are the actual usernames... then you may want to copy /etc/skel/ contents to each folder19:08
DueliI closed my computer by holding the power button - the wrong way. Now ubuntu boots to busybox, initramfs. I can't access ubuntu the normal way. What can I do?19:08
leapy0yohi19:08
porgohsix: Was it that GIT kernel doc page u were referring to as "the only source I need to know" ?19:08
||arifaXI need a second cups-pdf printer with its own configuration file. How can I achieve this? I need 2 differend postprocessing scripts to work.19:09
promeno19:09
truepurpleoldos2er: I tried the -a trigger, it is asking if I want system wide reasable home directories. Do I?19:09
promeits lan card19:09
prometomatobros i have tested the command19:09
Duelihttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1244466.html I have the same problem, but I don't find the answers very helpful.19:09
tomatobrosprome:  what command ? lspci ?19:09
promeits the internal lan card with the motherboard tomatobros19:09
promeno19:10
kundancan someone give me the sources.list for 11.04 beta please??19:10
kundanI deleted mine19:10
promepppoe-discovery19:10
erUSULkundan: ask in #ubuntu+119:10
bonjoyeekundan: google for "ubuntu sources generator"19:10
kundanerUSUL, thanks19:10
ohsixporg: yes sysfs-api.txt19:10
kundanbonjoyee, well i would but no browser atm and w/o sources.list nothing installs19:10
erUSUL||arifaX: just add it in System>Admin...>Printers?19:11
DueliI have also tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 again, but it freezes once I press "install" etc. Why?19:11
oldos2ertruepurple, I've never seen dpkg ask for 'system wide reasable home directories' before. Don't know what to tell you.19:11
ohsixporg: heres the awful boring power documentation http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=Documentation/power;h=3f02d605f47a910a32d1d38002d10732925b457c;hb=HEAD19:11
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bonjoyeekundan: ok then head to #ubuntu+119:11
||arifaXerUSUL: I am on Ubuntu Server without desktop. I think the result will be a second printer using the same config-file which won't work19:11
prometomatobros r u there?19:11
erUSUL||arifaX: use the cups web interface? really dunno ask in #cups19:12
ohsixporg: thermal is separate from power19:12
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ohsixporg: the bios is callable any time after boot, theres some code from it always running in SMM mode, and acpi tables in the bios are for a virtual machine that can be run in the host and in the bios to accomplish many hw/power/thermal things in a device independent manner19:13
ohsixporg: theres basically a lot of defined "do stuff" and informational queries, defined by acpi; the virtual machine instructions are there to actually do that with the hardware19:14
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porgohsix: But thermal is RELATED to power19:14
porgohsix: So is ACPI similar like the mac stuff i mentioned19:15
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woltermy touchpad got disabled all of a sudden, how could I re-enable it?19:15
porgDoes the machine shut itself of in an emergency? Or can the OS "burn" it?19:15
ohsixporg: its related to power in the cpu; but not much else, "power" is used to talk about what state a driver is in so it can respond to changes in power state19:15
porgohsix: Thanks for your term clarification regarding power.19:16
ohsixporg: intel cpus have tm1 & tm2 that do clock gating and power throttling in extreme cases, crash19:16
ohsixporg: but acpi is expected to be interpreted and used to contol the cooling devices so that won't happen19:17
joaovrmaiateste19:17
porgOk, so i can mess around in the OS but the intel chip defends itself if necessary.19:17
jmdAfter doing an upgrade, my ubuntu PC is unusable.  How do I downgrade again?19:17
ohsixporg: thats why it has tables to tell the host os how to control the fan and what temperatures are ok19:17
porgso the HW sends ACPI "instructions" to the OS, and the OS is then responsible for making the rifvht conclusions and adapt the thermal devices appropiately?19:18
ohsixporg: don't quote me on the thermal stuff, there are definite lower bounds, like having a heatsink; the data sheet will tell you about them if you ever need to know though19:18
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porgohsix: Please carry on! That s interesting, now u explain the principle, that s what i was longing for!19:18
ohsixporg: the acpi tables are in memory at boot time, the OS copies them somewhere safe then uses the code when the os needs something it asks from acpi19:19
ohsixlike how to control the cpu frequency and voltage19:19
truepurpleWhat does this option mean? http://dandelion-patch.mit.edu/afs/athena.mit.edu/service/scratch/kcr/srvd-7.2/usr/var/lib/dpkg/info/byobu.templates Its asking me if I want to launch byobu at shell login for all users19:19
macotruepurple: it means if anyone (not just you) logs in using a terminal (instead of login screen), should byobu run for all of them?19:20
erUSULtruepurple: well do you want? ask yes or no19:20
ohsixporg: the rest is probably more important to read, even if it is kind of idle in here19:20
truepurpleI don't have a clue what byobu IS19:20
ohsixtruepurple: its a bunch of screen scripts for haxors19:20
porgohsix: Now u told me a lot of singular statements. I have one inquiry to you. Could you schematically tell me how this system basically works in an: A monitors B, informs C, C decides, gives feedback to A. In such a manner.19:20
paisleyrobI want to build a package that is essentially just the output of tar -xf tarball with a few minor exceptions.  dh_make --native seems to require I create a make file explicitly listing all the files in question.  What simple thing am I missing?!19:20
porgohsix: Or tell me under which keywords I find explanations on the net.19:21
erUSULpaisleyrob: #ubuntu-packaging may be of more help19:21
truepurpleohsix so probably not?19:21
erUSULtruepurple: is a modified GNU screen19:21
erUSUL!screen | truepurple19:21
ubottutruepurple: screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen19:21
porgohsix: And probably not 100ed page long low level tech talk, but maybe some 10 paragraph article.19:21
jmdAfter doing an upgrade, how do I login?19:22
ohsixporg: well acpi will handle emergencies by itself, but it basically tells the OS how to contro the fans and the cpu, so the os can decide if its appropriate instead of having a fixed power policy in the bios, different for every vendor19:22
truepurpleI still don't understand any of it, I guess I will say no19:22
TeckniXAnyone know how I can view the priority status of a message in Evolution 2.3?19:22
slakcphilso i need a cmos battery for an old IBM 380ed thinkpad... has anyone ever tried buying a replacement battery at a local drug store, would that work if it was the same size and voltage?19:23
crit3rionhow do I get my apps to stop using the top panel for the "File Edit View..." menus?19:23
crit3rionThis is ubuntu 11.0419:23
porgohsix: Ok, so in easy words ACPI informs and gives "recomenndations (tables)" to the OS, gives it a chance to decide, receives its decisions, but if none or dangerous one come, ACPI decides itself.19:23
erUSULcrit3rion: ask in #ubuntu+1 please19:23
truepurpleugh, this is asking me about all sorts of stuff I dont understand, better cancel out19:23
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crit3riongotcha19:23
foobar_after installing gobi-loader and the apropriate firmware the networkmanager asks me everytime I login for the PIN of the SIM card. How do I fix this ?19:23
ohsixporg: linux knows what is safe for the fan for example, informed by acpi, so it can control it based on the temperature, and the os knows when theres not much work to do in the near future, it can ask acpi how long it takes for the cpu to transition into some power saving state and decide if the expense is worth it; then ask acpi to do it19:24
slakcphili will put ubuntu server 8.04 on it and just run the cli (really just using it for minicom)19:24
ohsixporg: they're law, not just recommendations; they're whats "ok" so says the person building the computer19:25
truepurpleCould I please get some help with possibly messed up video card? details here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172139119:25
porgporg: Yes, the OS has far more intelligence and predication capabilities as it is self-aware, hence can give efficient control commands, but in case the OS fails, ACPI still has its "rough emergency plan"19:25
ohsixporg: in that way it encapsulates any arrangements of fans and cooling devices, like it does with other hw19:25
leapy0yowhat sh code will delete the prefix  prefix - lots of files ...?19:26
porgAnd ACPI is a part of the bios ?19:26
erUSULleapy0yo: in ubuntu you can use prename19:26
porgAnd my previous question: Is the BIOS firmware? Does it run all the time? Or only while boot time?19:27
erUSULleapy0yo: in the folder with the files --> prename 's/^prefix//' *19:27
Dr_Willisporg:  acpi is a feature of the bios yes.  power management subsystem.19:27
porgohsix and Dr_Willis : I should have done some art this afternoon, but now I did mainly IT engeneering stuff, but I don't regret, I have learned a little now.19:28
ohsixporg: it's complicated when the bios runs, but i already answered that19:28
Dr_Willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface19:28
porgohsix: My simplification kind of described the system?19:29
ohsixporg: i wouldn't agree with the use of "self-aware", but sure; and the emergency plan isn't part of acpi persay, smm is, but smm uses msrs in the cpu to do its job, since its just for emergencies & doesb't need the wealth of information19:30
porgACPI -- law -> OS --> OS monitors its activities, gets sensor readings, concludes best ACPI settings, sends them --> ACPI runs input through "emergency treshhold". If the "law" is contradicted it intervenes, else it takes the OS control data and implements it into reality.19:31
ohsixporg: acpi tells the os what it can do with the things its interested in, like fans and changing the frequency of the cpu19:32
rodhash__test19:32
ohsixit does _so much_ more but it can all be categorized as such19:32
porgAnd SMM is the "emergency brake" ?19:32
ohsixit has stuff for ambient light sensors and stuff19:33
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porgAnd none of this is a seperate physical unit, but only high priority code (firmware) ?19:33
ohsixsmm is emergency everything: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode19:33
porgOn the mac this Power Stuff is in deed an independent unit inside the system19:33
ohsixporg: right, they are tables of instructions the bios and the  os can execute, and extra information19:34
CarlFKis there something that will graph memory usage of a process as it is running?  trying to track down a memory leak that takes about 10 min for oom_killer to kick in, and watching top for that long is getting annoying19:34
porgBut on the PC they seem to have implemented this to run on the CPU (C as in CENTRAL, so not separate), only given a "code priority"19:34
ohsixporg: i dunno about mac but it is impractical to make it an external module19:35
porgohsix: I see a weakness in this system. If the CPU flaws, it could hurt itself. If the emergency break is a physically separate unit, it s more fail safe.19:35
ohsixCarlFK: you can log the output of smm and diff it ...19:36
fisixhey does anybody know a chat client for msn/wlm that supports custom emoticons other than pidgin?19:36
ohsixCarlFK: smem, argh ;]19:36
porgohsix: Someone drawning cannot safe him/her-self...19:36
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porgohsix: A life belt is an external system to your body, and could help you.19:36
ohsixporg: they can stop operating, ie. crash, but there are other concerns with drowning19:36
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porgohsix: So it was an inproper comparison (metaphor) i used?19:37
ohsixin most cases malfunctioning is very bad, while crashing is ok19:38
porgohsix: You seem to be very well informed. I too in some areas, but concerning PC HW on olow level, I know not that much, hence am very greatful for your hints.19:38
vbajpaihello19:39
porgYes, and if heat control in not separate, but integrated, malfunctioning could occur, and overheating a result. That s the conclusion i made.19:39
ohsixlike it's not ok for an atm machine to accept transactions it doesn't have money for, it's preferable it fail, even if you need the money very badly19:39
neverbluehi guys, i want to setup a co-worker to have access to my Ubuntu VM via ssh. I would like to allow them access to install, does that require me only adding them to the sudo group? or am I being too generous and concrned?19:39
ohsixporg: yep, but lots of things can happen19:39
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adikhelp19:40
ohsixneverblue: if you add them to the admin group they'll be able to do anything they desire as root19:40
huroot19:40
neverbluewhich might be an over-requirement19:40
neverblueis there a group I can put them into, so they can install applications ?19:40
ohsixneverblue: but you can configure sudo to allow individual commands and other things (you have to be exceedingly careful, it is easy to allow them to execute things in ways you didn't think of in maintaining this whitelist)19:40
porgporg: Ok, thanks for all the info you gave me! To finish our conversation: Are u in any way affiliated with Ubuntu?19:40
klaneverblue: you can add a sudo rules to only allow them to run specific commands (apt-get, etc..)19:40
ohsixporg: no, i just file bugs and help19:41
porgohsix: Or did you do all your counseling to me now in your spare time?19:41
aaron_chi, when my screensaver comes up, my password isn't working.  i have to click on switch users and then log back in from there.  anyone know what might be going on?19:41
DueliI have a huge problem, and I would appreciate any help. I shut my computer down by holding the power button and now I can't boot to ubuntu. It just goes to busybox, initramfs. When I boot ubuntu with an USB drive and go to Computer -> 120GB Hard Disk: 117GB Filesystem, it says "Unable to mount location. A job is pending on /dev/sda1". I am not able to reinstall Ubuntu either.19:41
ohsixporg: spare time ... but the world is quantifiably better when information is distributed ;]19:41
porgohsix: I also spend a lot of time in making software feature suggestings, bug reports, etc, but I never gave 3 hours IRC counseling. My RESPECT MAN!!!19:41
porgohsix: Or LADY?19:42
ohsixDueli: is it an ocz ssd?19:42
neverbluekla/ohsix, in the User/Groups GUI ?19:42
RussellAlanhow do i verify the md5sum?>19:42
porgohsix: Sorry for that indirectly implied sexism of myself.19:42
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ohsixneverblue: in /etc/sudoers, it has its own man page; it can get quite complex19:42
Dueliohsix, what is that?19:42
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DueliI'm not too familiar with ubuntu.19:42
porgohsix: ohsix is of course gender neutral, you could be both!19:42
ohsixDueli: is the drive an ocz ssd, i take it it isn't :D19:42
porgI m male 27 from Vienna btw.19:43
rww!asl19:43
ubottuMost of us don't speak American Sign Language, please try English instead. ✌19:43
Dueliprobably not, then.19:43
neverblueohsix, so will it just be editing a conf though, just to allow aptitue and not allow everything else ?19:43
ohsixporg: this is all pretty offtopic :D19:43
mister2hey, is there a better driver than what i'm using for my grahics card? http://pastebin.com/V0nvr2C319:44
Dueliohsix, are you able to help?19:44
ohsixneverblue: well you can't be sure they wont find something to do with aptitude that would allow them to execute arbitrary commands; it's a catch22, you basically have to trust them anyways, trust but verify19:44
porgohsix: NO, I think praising your great help is really WORTH it, and PART of the topic!19:44
neverblueohsix, ill look at the man, thanks19:44
ohsixDueli: sure but my ace in the hole one line solution was dashed with it not being an ssd :D19:45
ohsixDueli: you should look at the output of dmesg in a terminal after you try and mount it, it will tell you about errors it has attempting to do so19:45
erUSULneverblue: only allow him to run apt-get install19:45
nit-witaaron_c, is the default to another user, say the admin19:45
erUSULneverblue: there is only admin group... is all or nothing via groups. but you can use sudoers19:45
erUSUL!md5sum | RussellAlan19:45
devurandomHello!19:45
devurandomWhen is clementine-0.7.1 coming to (K)Ubuntu 10.10?19:45
porgohsix: I just wanted to correct my possible gender disciminating expression! (Before it was too late) ;-)19:45
devurandomIs someone working on it already?19:45
ubottuRussellAlan: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:45
DueliCan you give step-by-step instructions, ohsix?19:46
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ohsixporg: it's ok19:46
porgohsix: Thanks!19:46
porgohsix: Are you here regularly?19:46
rodhash_:)19:46
ohsixDueli: applications -> accessories -> terminal, type in dmesg after it is open, copy the contents to paste.ubuntu.com19:46
rodhash_:-)19:46
ohsixporg: yea19:46
neverblueso to allow a user to do: sudo aptitude search bob, that user must be administrator or sudo ?19:46
ohsixneverblue: no, they can do that as a normal user19:47
neverblues/administrator/admin/19:47
porgohsix: You know PC people have to be PC *LOL*19:47
red2kicadmin is short for administrator19:47
ohsixneverblue: aptitude will use sudo when it needs to do elevated operations19:47
porgohsix: Figure out that abbreviation puzzle yourself ;-)19:47
neverbluered2kic: obviously :)19:47
jmdHow do I recover a messed up system?19:47
porgohsix: Just came to my mind ;-)19:47
neverbluejmd, find the issue19:47
ohsixjmd: the only answer to that question as it was asked is to reinstall it19:47
ohsixor throw it out, if a computer malfunctions in the woods is it messed up?19:48
jmdohsix, Then I'll rephrase it.  How to I recover from a messed up ubuntu system without reinstalling it?19:48
red2kicIt all depends on how you messed it up in first place.19:48
ohsixjmd: well that' doesn't help your question, important information like how it got messed up is appropriate19:48
jmdohsix, I thought I explained that.  I did an upgrade.19:49
OsmodivsI know Ubuntu 11.04 is in abeta state, but, is it safe to upgrade now, I mean, it doesn't come with fatal bugs or something that can damage my sys?19:49
ohsixjmd: oh that was 30 minutes ago19:50
ohsixjmd: you won't be able to downgrade as easily as you will be able to fix whatever is keeping the update from finishing19:50
jmdSo how do I do that?19:50
Dueliohsix, I copypasted everything heres what I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589383/19:51
ohsixOsmodivs: nothing _too_ bad,  but i'd save myself the aggravation if i were you19:51
porgTo all: I am leaving, thanks for all your support! My fine is not loud anymore, only mid loud, sometimes even silent!19:51
ayrusHi, how to know the installed Ubuntu is installed as 32 bit or 64 bit?19:51
erUSULayrus: uname -m19:51
ohsixayrus: or -i19:51
ayruserUSUL, Let me check.. Thanks19:51
ohsixDueli: bad news, io failure during a _write_19:52
ayruserUSUL, its telling i686.. so it means 64 bit?19:52
Dueliand that means...?19:52
leapy0yowhat is wrong with this perl expression , i am trying to batch rename :   `s/$2Pac*/2Pac*/`19:52
ohsixDueli: the drive probably isn't completely dead yet, but its quickly on its way19:52
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DueliHow can that happen?19:53
erUSULayrus: no; 32 bits19:53
DueliJust like that?19:53
erUSULayrus: x86_64 is what you get in a 64 bits install19:53
ayrusohsix, its showing "unknown" on your command uname -i19:53
ohsixayrus: try -m then19:53
DaraelGot an interesting one here: Latest kernel (2.6.35-28-generic) refuses to acknowledge my wifi card's existence - it doesn't even appear in lspci.  Reverting to 2.6.35-27, it works fine.19:53
erUSULleapy0yo: the $ is special in a regex... do you want it to be taken literally? also are you sure what * means in a regex?19:53
ohsix-i works here, might be because i've got a variant, my mistake19:54
red2kicayrus: -a will tell everything.19:54
erUSULDarael: report it as regression in the kernel...19:54
ohsixDueli: who knows, and it's often not just like that; you can try e2fsck to sidestep the kernel oops during log playback19:54
DaraelerUSUL: Will do.19:54
ohsixDueli: e2fsck should give you more information than just "io error" too19:54
Duelishould i copypaste?19:55
ayruserUSUL,  I want to install Google chrome, so I need to know which repositories should I download either 32 bit or 64 bit.. that's why I'm asking...19:55
ohsixDueli: no need19:55
Dueliohsix, how so?19:55
ohsixayrus: find a chrome ppa, it'll install the right arch for you19:55
ayrusohsix,  ok thanks...19:55
ohsixDueli: what do you mean?19:55
DueliWhy is there no need?19:56
ohsixDueli: e2fsck -v /dev/sda119:56
ohsixDueli: because theres unlikely to be an error19:56
ohsixyou just get to watch it for a while while it works19:56
erUSULayrus: ok19:57
ayruserUSUL,  Thanks for the help...19:58
erUSULayrus: no problem19:58
Dueliohsix, "device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1. Filesystmen mounted or opened axclusively by another program"19:58
Duelisystem, exclusively*19:59
erUSULDarael: fsck needs to be run with the fs umounted. a livecd is handy for that19:59
DueliIs there nothing I can do about my drive getting wrecked, other than watch?20:00
ohsixDueli: pastebin the output of fuser -v /dev/sda120:00
Dueliok20:00
erickcionhi20:00
ohsixerUSUL: he said earlier he was on w/a livecd, since the system just goes to busybox in the ramfs20:00
erUSULohsix: ok20:00
erickcionsomebody here knows how to connect via XDMCP with GDM ???20:01
lucid_jI need some help20:01
erUSUL!ask | lucid_j20:01
ubottulucid_j: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:01
jmderickcion, I think there's an option in the gdm.conf file20:01
gh0stcan I apt-get install py2exe?20:01
lucid_jWhen I boot I get a message, before loggin' in, that says that a secondary disk I have cannot be mounted20:01
ohsixerickcion: i don't think you can anymore, if you could it'd be an applet running in gdm, not gdm itself anymore20:02
Dueliohsix, "cannot stat file /proc/4323/fd/36: Stale NFS file handle, cannot stat file /proc/4323/fd/38: Stale NFS file handle, cannot stat file /proc/4323/fd/42: Stale NFS file handle"20:02
erUSUL!find py2exe20:02
ubottuFile py2exe found in python-serial20:02
lucid_jHow could i check where is the problem?20:02
erickcionjmd: that is already configured... but now what i have to do to connect? or try to connect??20:02
ohsixDueli: you have a serious situation, you need to find a way to get to it before it oops's20:02
erUSULgh0st: < ubottu> File py2exe found in python-serial20:02
ohsixDueli: like booting the livecd in single user mode20:03
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Duelihow do I do that?20:03
jmderickcion, As I recall, it comes up with a menu giving all the other machines on the network.20:03
aaron_chi, when my screensaver comes up, my password isn't working.  i have to click on switch users and then log back in from there.  anyone know what might be going on?20:04
erickcionohsix: so, what i have to do to try XDMCP?20:04
lucid_jany advice?20:04
erickcionohsix: i have the server configured (i hope) but i dont know how to connect to it20:04
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DueliOhsix: how do I boot the livecd in single user mode?20:05
ohsixerickcion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/68998820:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 689988 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Login screen does not allow logging into remote systems using XDMCP" [Medium,Triaged]20:05
ohsixDueli: same way you boot any linux system into single user mode D: hold shift to get the language selector when the livecd boots, press f6 remove "quiet splash" add single20:06
ohsixor the quick and dirty init=/bin/bash20:06
Dueliwhat is a livecd? *_*20:07
DueliAs I said, I'm not familiar20:07
ohsixit's the thing you're using right now to be in ubuntu20:07
Dueliokay20:07
ohsixbbl20:07
lucid_jI did "$ cat /var/log/boot.log"20:08
lucid_jand the error is:20:08
lucid_jThe device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.20:08
lucid_jMaybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a20:08
lucid_jpartition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?20:08
erickcionis necessary a command to conect to XDMCP server??20:09
erickcionjmd: but where is that menu?20:09
erickcionjmd: what i have to do to see it??20:09
erickcion:(20:09
ohsixerickcion: i do not know of any xdmcp choosers that are standalone applications, so theres not much luck in lookking for one to run in the gdm session D:20:09
Dueliohsix, F6 doesn't respond20:09
lucid_jmountall: mount /mnt/disk2 [747] terminated with status 1220:09
lucid_jmountall: Filesystem could not be mounted: /mnt/disk220:09
lucid_jinit: ureadahead-other main process (756) terminated with status 420:09
jmderickcion, It's been several years since I'20:09
ohsixDueli: pick the language then look at the bottom20:09
jmdhave used it. So I can't tell you.  All I can say is it was pretty obvious once configured.20:10
Dartis it possible to make launchers for key combos? I want to make one for ALT+TAB so that I can switch to woindows fast20:10
BGM_hello!20:10
Dueliso which one do I select at "other options" (f6), ohsix?20:11
murderertoysorry. somebody know how i can change the memory_limit from php on ubuntu???20:11
BGM_so my mistake instead of typing fg %emacs, I started emacs again, so now I have two emacs processes and when I say fg %emacs it says "ambiguous job spec". I tried killall emacs, and also just kill with the PID, but they are still there...20:12
BGM_by*20:12
BGM_btw I am ssh-ing via putty on a Windoze machine, in case that is relevant20:13
Dueliso which one do I select at "other options" (f6), ohsix?20:14
rocktophow to check which hdds type instaleld on my box satta or scsi ?20:16
raj-kDoes anyone know how to enable Flash on Chromium (not chrome)?20:18
ileahow can i check using linux how big is the procesor and how mutch ram i have o a computer?20:18
raj-kI can't find the plugins folder for chromium20:18
raj-kI've checked /usr/bin/lib/chromium; I put it in that directory as well as a plugins directory I created myself; neiter worked. Also tried running with chromium --enable-plugins option20:19
raj-kthe .so, that is^20:19
ohsixDueli: not to be rude but i'm very tired and at the tail end of a 4 hour blitz helping people, i phrased my answers/suggestions to be easily google'able so i wouldn't have to fill in the blanks :[20:19
bonjoyeerocktop: sudo lshw20:19
ohsixilea: free -m and cat /proc/cpuinfo20:19
rocktopbonjoyee : -bash: lshw: command not found20:19
ohsixrocktop: you can look at dmesg too20:19
Jibadeehais there an easy way in ubuntu to encrypt an individual directory20:20
bonjoyeerocktop: sudo apt-get install lshw20:20
rocktopohsix: how  ?20:20
ileaohsix i dont understand please write a little difrent20:20
DueliThanks for all the help, ohsix.20:20
ilealike i have to enter in terminal?20:20
gurra72hello20:20
kizehola!!!!20:20
DueliI'll try to google my way to victory, even though the chance is small20:20
raj-kilea: yes20:20
snake_How to configure apache2 for use on port 8080, and binded to my external ip.20:21
snake_?20:21
ohsixilea: you can also open System Monitor from System -> Administration20:21
ohsixilea: sorry, i was breaking my own rules telling you to use the console :D20:21
gurra72just testing irssi20:21
snake_hmmm apache2!20:21
qwebirc93887I am trying to enable ACPI in Ubuntu but it's not working. I've tried sudo modprobe acpi (and acpid), installed acpi and acpid, added acpi and acpid to /etc/modules, added "acpi=force" to grub... What else can I do? I am desesperated.20:22
dtcrshrsnake_, #httpd20:22
bernzsnake_: you mean to set apache2 to listen on 8080, or to forward outside traffic from 80 to 8080?20:22
ileawhat rules if someone haves to help another its normal to say what to do20:22
ileai now only 1 rule and that is that there are no rules20:22
ilea:P20:22
ohsixqwebirc93887: what makes you think you had to do anything?20:23
andaiHow do i install the virtualbox extension pack?20:23
ohsixilea: well i had an argument with someone earlier about not telling people to use stuff that is not part of the desktop first, the most direct and correct answer under that rule is System Monitor, not anything having to be done on a terminal20:24
nrabettsnake_ locate the apace2 config files - I think they are in /etc/. I assume you could also install Webmin in order to get a GUI20:24
qwebirc93887ohsix: because it's an old motherboard.20:24
nrabettApart from that, you should search Google for a tutorial. One would have to write a small essay here20:24
Pumpkin-if you always have to give desktop answers before command line answers, I'm going to answer like 0 questions :)20:25
jiltdilwhat is firestarter and what is ufw?20:25
LarsNilea: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1  stick within the guidelines there and you'll do well.20:25
stefg!firestarter20:25
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.20:25
bonjoyeejiltdil: both are front ends to the linux firewall "iptables"20:25
ruskCan anybody help me to fix broken gnome fonts?20:26
jiltdilbonjoyee:which is better as use?20:26
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ruskit looks like this: http://itmages.ru/image/preview/161241/df5fe4a420:26
stefgjiltdil: so firestarter is a gui frontend for ufw, which in turn is a simplified cli interface to iptables20:26
TraeI've got an old box that's 9.04 is there a way I can upgrade it to 10.10 via command line?  or even just from 9.04->9.10 ?20:26
bonjoyeejiltdil: i prefer ufw..20:26
jiltdilstefg:bonjoyee:thanx20:26
TraeI don't have X on this box in question.20:27
ruskfonts, used in gnome-settings after some time are broken...20:27
qwebirc93887ohsix: what made you ask that question in a agressive way?20:27
ohsixqwebirc93887: i meant who gave you such advice, or is it rote, old motherboard force acpi?20:27
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ohsixqwebirc93887: i think the acpi epoch was in 2005, it's older than that?20:27
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ohsixmay have been 200220:28
jiltdili also have a question at sometime when icheck events in firestarter something like scanning on my port 80 happens and under serious there is 1 or 2 or more written what is that and how to prevent that ?20:28
stefgTrae: for updating purposes there's still some repos .... that involves fiddling with the sources.list. I wouldn't recommend it. you'll have to climb the adder through every release, and that will cost you more bandwidth than a simply new install.20:28
andaihow do i change this: andai@andai-System-Product-Name:~$20:29
jmdWhere is the kernel in ubuntu?20:29
qwebirc93887ohsix: Ubuntu forums and a lot of other websites where I found other users having same problem than I:  when I sudo shutdown -h now or sudo poweroff the computer will not poweroff, it hangs and shows "system halted" message.20:29
qwebirc93887Any tip?20:29
stefgjmd:  on top of the hardware  :-)20:29
Traestefg: would one simply grab say the sources.list for 9.10 and apt-get dist-upgrade   then 10.04  etc...?20:29
bonjoyeeandai: change it in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and then reboot20:29
andaity20:30
ohsixqwebirc93887: first, check if acpi is even being used and for what reason, look at the output of "dmesg" run in a terminal, if it's not obvious to you please post it to paste.ubuntu.com20:30
Logan_!kernel | jmd20:30
ubottujmd: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages20:30
nyuszika7hHi, should I install the 32-bit or the 64-bit Ubuntu for an x64 system?20:30
nyuszika7hs/for/to20:30
rwwnyuszika7h: 64-bit works fine.20:30
red2kicnyuszika7h: Roll a dice.20:31
andaibonjoyee: i edited /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts was updated automatically!20:31
* nyuszika7h rolls a dice20:31
stefgTrae: no... the problem is taht you have to point your sources.list in jaunty to another URL... i think soemthing like old-releases.ubuntu.com. But seriously: forget it. save your /home and reinstall.... quicker and cleaner.t20:31
* neckoox sneezes20:31
stefg!clone | Trae20:31
ubottuTrae: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate20:31
rww!eol | Trae20:31
ubottuTrae: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:31
nyuszika7h1, 2, 3: x64 4, 5, 6: x8620:32
nyuszika7hYayy, 1! :D20:32
warlock_hey guys, using natty since a day ago, can't find any equivalent of gnome-panel-monitors in the current interface. should I just fire up gnome-panel ? or is there another way to monitor stuff now ?20:32
qwebirc93887ohsix: yes, I did check dmesg | grep acpi and shows "[    0.000000] ACPI: BIOS age (1997) fails cutoff (2000), acpi=force is required to enable ACPI" so I added acpi=force "[    0.000000] ACPI: acpi=force override"20:32
nyuszika7hFloodBot?20:32
rwwwarlock_: natty discussion and support are in #ubuntu+120:32
Traestefg: heh it's got a trac setup on there I really don't want to mess with.20:32
rwwnyuszika7h: what about them?20:32
warlock_rww: thanks20:32
ohsixwarlock_: you can use the "Classic Desktop" session if you want, and do everything like you used to20:32
Traebut thanks mate20:32
Logan_!floodbot | nyuszika7h20:32
ubottunyuszika7h: FloodBot1,2,3, and 4 are all bots, please direct your questions to the channel.20:32
ohsixqwebirc93887: and does it find a DSDT?20:32
ayeceenyuszika7h: how much memory?20:32
nyuszika7hayecee: 3 GB20:33
qwebirc93887ohsix: but lsmod lsmod does not show anything acpi related20:33
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qwebirc93887lsmod sorry20:33
stefgTrae: who tells you that it won't break anyway during upgrades?20:33
ohsixqwebirc93887: that's not what i asked20:33
Traestefg: don't say such words!20:33
Logan_!away > THEBRODOZER|WORK20:33
ubottuTHEBRODOZER|WORK, please see my private message20:33
ohsixqwebirc93887: there isn't here either (lsmod | grep acpi)20:33
Trae:)20:33
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qwebirc93887ohsix: I was not replying to what you asked. What do you mean with DSDT?20:33
qwebirc93887ohsix: how do you check if acpi is working?20:34
Dueliohsix: could you just help me with booting ubuntu into single user mode20:35
DueliI can't find it20:35
sukimaHow do you set your preffered wm on an ubuntu server via command line?20:35
ohsixqwebirc93887: well, you ask it to do stuff for you, but checking if it found a DSDT is a good start, as it wont do anything without one (dmesg | grep DSDT)20:35
erUSULDueli: in the grub menu chooes recovery mode20:35
qwebirc93887ohsix: ps aux |  grep acpi root       511  0.0  0.1   1792   608 ?        Ss   20:30   0:00 acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket20:35
stefgTrae: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:35
bonjoyee!find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.020:35
ubottuFile libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 found in ia32-libs, libgtk2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0-dbg20:35
ohsixDueli: i've got to pack up the laptop and get out of here D:20:35
Dueliok20:35
Traestefg: thanks mate, I do appreciate the time and effort to help.20:35
erUSULsukima: wm? window manager? a server does not have gui by default20:35
qwebirc93887ohsix: dmesg | grep DSDT empty output..20:36
ohsixqwebirc93887: not it, sorry if i was rude earlier but i've got to go; and it sounds like theres no ACPI20:36
ohsixqwebirc93887: you'll have to try the "platform" shutdown mode20:36
ohsixqwebirc93887: one sec i'll find you the appropriate config file20:36
DuelierUSUL, it brings me to busybox, initramfs just like in normal mode20:36
qwebirc93887ohsix: It is enabled in the BIOS20:36
qwebirc93887hm20:36
qwebirc93887ok20:36
ohsixqwebirc93887: maybe i'm mistaken and very very early acpi impls didn't have a DSDT, but i doubt it20:37
sukimaerUSUL: I know I install one for playing around20:37
sukimaI start it with startx20:37
stefgTrae: i bet your box will break in one way or the other anyway... but keep in mind that you can't directly upgrade... you have to go step-by-step 9.04>9.10>10.04 (should stay there) and possibly > 10.1020:37
ohsixqwebirc93887: the file has documentationa nd the settings in it, /etc/default/acpi-support gl, and bye20:37
erUSULDueli: what error do you get befors landing in initramfs promt?20:37
Traestefg: yeah, make sense, I've been around a wee bit, I was just wondering if there was a way to upgrade via command line from one distro to the next without having to have X installed20:38
erUSULsukima: and what do you want to change exactly? what wm is launched with startx? do you have more than one installed?20:38
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dashxhey gang.20:39
sukimaerUSUL: yup, fluxbox and icewm20:39
Dueli"mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed : no such file or directory" "mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory" "mounting /proc on root/proc failed: no such file or directory", erUSUL.20:40
sukimaI can switch back and forth. Just want a way to pick which is default20:40
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dashxI have a relatively simple (probably) question, has to do with grub. Anyone here wanna take a stab?20:40
erUSULsukima: startx uses ~/.xinitrc as config file20:40
Duelitarget filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init20:40
DueliNo inir found. Try passing init= bootarg20:40
Dueliinit*20:41
erUSULDueli: if you pass "init=/bin/bash" it boots? did you succeed in passing a fsck to the partition ?20:41
dashxAfter installing a second OS on a partition I had to reinstall grub, however the new install placed grub in /boot/boot/grub instead of /boot/grub. So whenever I have a kernel update, or what not, it writes to the /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then I have to manually copy the file to /boot/boot/grub, anyone have a long term solution for this?20:41
sin8h+ folks20:42
DuelierUSUL, "init=/bin/bash" does nothing20:42
erUSULDueli: you have to edit the kernel manu entry to add it to kernel options20:43
erUSULDueli: in the grub menu20:44
DueliAnd how do I do that?20:44
erUSULDueli: press "e" in the grub menu that enters edit mode in grub menu iirc20:44
DuelierUSUL, what should I do then?20:45
erUSULDueli: replace "quiet splash" with "init=/bin/bash"20:45
stefgdashx: what version of ubuntu / grub?20:45
DuelierUSUL, there isn't "quiet splash"20:46
BGM_hello!20:46
erUSULDueli: well in the recovery mode entry there is not.20:46
Duelioh, okay20:47
BGM_I tried looking this up on the net but to no avail: how do I launch emacs and not xemacs?20:47
* stefg thinks the Floodbots are jutifying their names... flooding the channel with +o's and -j's20:47
tj2 /part20:47
erUSULBGM_: emacs -nw20:48
BGM_orly?20:48
BGM_thx erUSUL20:48
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BGM_oh wonderful! :)20:49
erUSULBGM_: also xemacs is not the same as the gui of gnu emacs. is a "different" editor ( a fork from a years ago )20:49
BGM_erUSUL: umm, ok. I just don't like xemacs because I want to do all my work in my shell, which is why I like macs.20:50
BGM_but now I will use -nw!20:51
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erUSUL!info emacs23-nox20:51
ubottuemacs23-nox (source: emacs23): The GNU Emacs editor (without X support). In component main, is optional. Version 23.1+1-4ubuntu7.2+maverick1 (maverick), package size 2670 kB, installed size 8500 kB20:51
jmdBGM_, chsh /usr/bin/emacs20:52
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sukimaDoes anyone know where looking glass 3d went? http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian doesn't work anymore20:53
BGM_jmd: umm, it says that "user" DNE20:53
leapy0yocan you guys help me with this: rename -n `s/^*2Pac*$/2Pac*$/` *.mp320:53
Welshy-RobHello. i have tried to open a folder in my home dir and the file browser just closes, i have tried to cd into it but apparently there is no such file, but it shows up when i ls -a ? can anyone help?20:53
jmdWhat does "plymouth main process" mean?20:53
sin8h#me heloo20:53
DuelierUSUL, with init=/bin/bash, booting brings me to root@(none):/#20:53
erUSULDueli: so it booted. « ls -l /sbin/init »20:54
erUSULDueli: what does it say?20:54
erUSULleapy0yo: do you know what * means in a regex? it is not like in a shelll glob20:55
jmdBGM_ try "chsh -s /usr/bin/emacs <yourname>"20:55
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* sin8h pink bunny20:56
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erUSULDueli: ?20:56
BGM_jmd: You may not change the shell for 'myname'.20:56
BGM_hu?20:57
DuelierUSUL, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108164 Jan 22 04:04 /sbin/init20:57
BGM_also jmd, what are you trying to get me to do?20:57
erUSULBGM_: do not think that using emcas as login shell is a good idea20:57
erUSULDueli: then why it complains it can find it? /me confused20:57
DueliI'm slow because I have to manage with a US keyboard layout but my keyboard is finnish20:57
BGM_erUSUL: umm, k20:57
DuelierUSUL, I have no idea20:58
erUSULDueli: i duno if you answered before... did you managed to pass the fsck to the partition from the livecd? or mount it?20:58
Pumpkin-valid login shells have to go in /etc/shells20:58
BGM_hey guys I'm writing an OS and it has three commands: EXIT, VERBOSE ON, and VERBOSE OFF lol!20:58
BGM_well so far. It's an assignment :320:59
Dueliwhat command, erUSUL?20:59
Dueliin terminal, right?20:59
erUSULDueli: you have to do it from the livecd...20:59
Dueliyeah, I know21:00
DueliHow?21:00
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erUSULDueli: « e2fsck -p /dev/sdxx » where xx is replaced with the actual letter number pair21:01
delinquentmeso if when i restart my computer ( ubuntu 10.04 ) .. and it doesnt make it GRUB .. is this most likely a MBR error?21:01
leapy0yoerusul, how do you do wild card in regular expression?21:01
delinquentmemake it _TO_ GRUB21:01
hou5tonAny notifications I get (like email, friend logged on, etc.) are coming up off the screen of my laptop. You can see the very bottom of them, and I can't figure out how to make them show up in the actual screen where I can see them.21:01
meerahi hi, whats better linux on xp or xp on linux?21:02
delinquentmemeera, install XP then install linux21:02
delinquentmemeera, ubuntu *21:02
bonjoyeemeera: you mean virtualisation?21:02
meerathink so21:02
erUSULleapy0yo: i think you want ".*" . is any char and * is 0 or more21:02
LinuxFetusWhat are the default fonts and settings for natty?21:02
LinuxFetus*font settings.21:02
jmdWhat are the default runlevels in ubuntu?21:02
erUSUL!runlevels21:03
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.21:03
erUSULjmd: but it is 2 for legacy things21:03
DuelierUSUL, it somehow works again...21:03
erUSULDueli: congrats then :)21:04
delinquentmeSo yeah i rebooted again .. and without making it to GRUB .. it hands on the second screen .. which would be the one that displays my mobo brand ( abit ) and the options to press TAB for POST screen .. and DEL to enter SETUP21:04
Duelii reboot in normal mode, it suggested fixing some problems, rebooted again and now I'm at the regular desktop21:04
abstraktleapy0yo, i sent you a msg, i guess you didn't get it?21:04
DueliSo, I guess there's nothing to worry about anymore, erUSUL?21:04
erUSULDueli: dunno; you will find out if something is missing21:05
Dueliokay21:05
Duelithat's when I'll come back, if necessary21:05
erUSULDueli: good luck21:05
DueliThanks for all your help, erUSUL.21:05
erUSULDueli: no problem21:05
erUSULdelinquentme: sata cable got loose the bios dos not find the hard disk to boot? hard to say21:06
jmdWhy is there no /etc/inittab file?21:06
erUSUL!upstart21:06
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/21:06
erUSULjmd: ubuntu does not use  Sys V init system anymore21:07
delinquentmeerUSUL, so i can get into BIOS no problem .. i just threw in a bootable disc into the tray ..and disabled all boot options other than the CD .. and im still getting hanging21:07
erUSULdelinquentme: well if you do not get past the bios -> is a bios problem21:08
delinquentmeerUSUL, well i can get INTO the bios .. and change things .. as well as save them and reboot21:08
delinquentmeit doesnt get to grub so i think thats where ill start?21:09
erUSULdelinquentme: the bios does not complain about "no boot disk found"? or something like that? do you see the disk detected in the bios screen ?21:10
* delinquentme ** rebooting **21:10
jmdSo how do I change the runlevel?21:11
Jibadeehais it possible to encrypt a folder on an external hard drive using ecryptfs21:11
erUSULjmd: why do you want to change runlevel? all of them are the same21:11
erUSULjmd: except 0,1 an 6 of course21:12
terryjmd: Ubuntu now uses upstart21:12
erUSUL!xy21:12
ubottuThe XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.21:12
terry!upstart : jmd21:12
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:12
terry!upstart | jmd21:12
ubottujmd: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/21:12
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delinquentmeWELLLLL there we go ...detecting IDE drives .... annnnd nothing21:13
terryjmd: But to answer your question:  telinit 3  #Will change to runlevel 321:13
delinquentmeso busted HD?21:13
delinquentmebad HD sector?21:13
erUSULdelinquentme: so i say hardware problem. something is wrong with the disks: chech the cabling21:13
erUSULdelinquentme: and yes it can be that disk just died21:14
jmdtelinit: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused21:14
skullboyok i hate the changes to ubuntu 11.04 how do i make it look the same as ubuntu 10.1021:14
brightsparkskullboy: specifically what changes?21:14
erUSULskullboy: ask in #ubuntu+121:14
jmdterry, According to that url you posted, there should exist a /etc/inittab21:15
skullboy#ubuntu+121:15
erUSULjmd: it may be outdated21:15
erUSULskullboy: /join #ubuntu+121:15
ScaroDjHello! Somebody help! :) If I google it I get the location in the menus, but my problem is that I lost the task bar and Alt+F2 and am trying to fix it. The question is: Where is the terminal binary?  I need to acces it throug Nautilus...21:15
LinuxFetusHey I'm running Ubuntu Studio 10.10. Right now when I open windows, they minimize to the top panel.  I'd like them to minimize on a panel that I added at the bottom of the screen.  How do I do this?21:15
skullboyerusul i know21:15
terryjmd: sudo telinit 221:16
erUSULLinuxFetus: add the window list applet to the botton panel21:16
erUSULLinuxFetus: remove the one you have in the top panel21:16
bercik_Hello all21:16
slipstreamHi, I've got a really annoying error. Whenever I log in to ubuntu the whole interface freezes, the mouse still moves but nothing happens, sometimes the panels and desltop load but are unresponsive, sometimes not. Everything works fine if I log in under safe mode. All users are affected. I've removed and reinstalled xorg and removed all the programs I can think of which were set to run at login but no effect. Any idea where to look next?21:16
bercik_Are there any numbers of how many Linux users there are worldwide?21:16
brightsparkScaroDJ: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal if I'm not mistaken21:17
erUSULbercik_: no source is completly accurate21:17
PwrSurgei'm getting a distribution upgrade for some reason21:17
PwrSurgeis 11.04 out?21:17
r1tz1bercik_: http://counter.li.org/21:17
erUSULPwrSurge: no21:17
bercik_thanks21:17
delinquentmeerUSUL, yeap all connections look good21:18
delinquentmeHDs spinning21:18
LinuxFetuserUSUL, I added it to the bottom one and then they both disappeared.21:18
LinuxFetuserUSUL, Both panels, I mean.21:18
fosstuxHi! I today bought a Logitech Harmony One Remote control and I'd like to set it up via linux. I installed concordance and congruity, but when starting congruity I get an error: ERROR: Precisely one filename argument is required21:18
skullboycan someone tell me how to make the ubuntu 11.04 gui look like 10.1021:18
erUSULdelinquentme: the disk died? can you check it as secondary in another machine?. boot into a livecd21:18
terryjmd: ubuntu no longer uses /etc/inittab21:18
erUSULLinuxFetus: :/21:18
terryjmd: Eactly what is it you are wanting to do?21:18
erUSULLinuxFetus: alt + f2 run  « gnome-panel »21:19
terryjmd: And what url are you refering to?21:19
botcity!11.04 | skullboy21:19
ubottuskullboy: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems.21:19
LinuxFetuserUSUL, That didn't work; it behaves as if they're both there.  Like if I click where something should be, its options show up.21:19
ScaroDjbrightspark: yes, it is, thank you very much21:20
erUSULLinuxFetus: most weird21:20
LinuxFetuserUSUL, I'll try loggin out brb.21:20
delinquentmeerUSUL, yeah i can but i gotta take a bus ride for that ... so yeah i get em hooked up .. and whats the procedure after that? 1. see if they're readable 2. run some disk checking util? 3. see if they're bootable?21:20
skullboycan someone tell me how to make the ubuntu 11.04 gui look like 10.10 the chan is not supporting me21:20
brightsparkScaroDj: You're welcome.  Glad to help.21:20
erUSULdelinquentme: yes. you can not use a liveCD21:21
erUSUL?21:21
jmdterry, I'm wanting to boot my ubuntu system.21:21
terryjmd: Is this a fresh install?21:21
delinquentmeerUSUL, yeah i put in a live CD .. and told the bios to *ONLY* use the cd drive as bootable .. and it hangs before that21:21
erUSULjmd: it is not booting normally?21:21
LinuxFetuserUSUL, Got it working.  THanks.21:21
mihaita99hello; my HDD used to heat up incredibly while running Ubuntu 10; they told me that was a bug; did they solve that bug in newer versions?21:21
erUSULdelinquentme: weird.21:21
jmdNo it's not booting normally.21:21
erUSULLinuxFetus: no problem21:21
terryjmd: What do you see on the screen?21:22
erUSULjmd: what is the error/behavior you get?21:22
jmdand no its not a fresh install, but a fresh upgrade.21:22
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terryjmd: from______?  to________?21:22
bonjoyeemihaita99: only you can answer that for yourself...21:22
bercik_Guys, when i use Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition liveCD i cannot easly connect to any WiFI network. Simply no network is detected. Will it work automaticaly when I stall the system to my HDD?21:23
terryjmd: Has the upgrade process been interrupted?21:23
jmdterry, I have no idea.  For weeks I had been pestered with a menu saying "updates available" so this morning I clicked on it and let it upgrade.  Now it doesn't work.21:23
bilalcan any body tell me the name of any vedio to audio converter??????????21:23
Starminn!wireless | bercik_21:23
ubottubercik_: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:23
ibrahimhi, ihave a sound problem in my computer?21:23
datzillaHi, I have a problem where I can't ssh into my non-local box from one local pc and not the other21:23
mihaita99bonjoyee: I am now on windows and I was waiting for the new version, I thought you new21:23
jmdSo far as I'm aware it wasn't interrupted.21:23
brightsparkbilal: try mencoder21:23
nit-witbercik_, run lspci find the wireless card and post it21:23
botcitybilal: ffmpeg21:23
Nick_Meisterguys21:23
Nick_Meisterall of my icons on the desktop are missing, and i cant right click on it21:24
Nick_Meisterhow do i get all this stuff back to the way it was before?21:24
slipstreamHi, I've got a really annoying error. Whenever I log in to ubuntu the whole interface freezes, the mouse still moves but nothing happens, sometimes the panels and desltop load but are unresponsive, sometimes not. Everything works fine if I log in under safe mode. All users are affected. I've removed and reinstalled xorg and removed all the programs I can think of which were set to run at login but no effect. Any idea where to look next?21:24
bercik_nit-wit: sadly I am on my Desktop at the moment21:24
erUSULNick_Meister: alt + f2 run « nautilus  »21:24
datzillaer.. and now I can...21:24
terryjmd: So when you trun the computer on,  tell us what happens?  Does it get past post?  How far...?21:24
Nick_MeistererUSUL, its running21:24
bercik_nit-wit: should be supported. Realtek built in Toshiba NB50021:25
nit-witbercik_, check the card then go to google or come back here, if it isn't working now it may be a broadcom neding a hack21:25
jmdterry, I get the grub menu.21:25
terryjmd: Do you have a choice of kernels to load?21:26
terryjmd: Which one do you choose?21:26
jmdNo.  Just one kernel.21:26
terryjmd: Ok, what happens when you try to boot that kernel?21:27
jmdUbuntu, with Linux 2.6.35-23-generic-pae21:27
terryjmd: Ok, what happens when you try to boot linux-2.6.35.23?21:27
jmdIt all seems to boot ok.  But the login screen has lost all its users, and the mouse doesn't work and has no login box.21:27
ibrahimhi, sound has vanished from my laptop and nothing was muted21:28
jayanthow can i update my system from terminal ?21:28
blundakat_Hello, I am having issues making a bios flash cd. I attempt to make an iso of the IMG file but it tells me Size of boot image is 2884 sectors -> genisoimage: Error - boot image 'F1B.IMG' has not an allowable size. any ideas? why would the floppy boot image be 4 sectors too big?21:29
fosstuxHi! I today bought a Logitech Harmony One Remote control and I'd like to set it up via linux. I installed concordance and congruity, but when starting congruity I get an error: ERROR: Precisely one filename argument is required21:29
jmdI just have the Ubuntu logo,  the computer name (and the date in the bottom right hand corner)21:29
fosstuxWhat am I doing wrong?21:29
brightsparkibrahim: have you recently run any programs that fiddle with sound settings?21:29
nit-witbercik_, I believe this is your card Realtek RTL8188CE and here is a link regarding it.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604101  the more information the better as I see it.;)21:29
brightsparkibrahim: as in, do you have an idea of the cause or are we just trying to address symptoms?21:30
terryjmd: Ctrl-Alt-F621:30
blundakat_Hello, I am having issues making a bios flash cd. I attempt to make an iso of the IMG file but it tells me Size of boot image is 2884 sectors -> genisoimage: Error - boot image 'F1B.IMG' has not an allowable size. any ideas? why would the floppy boot image be 4 sectors too big?21:31
bercik_nit-wit: thank You. I would like to be able to repay21:31
terryjmd: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade21:31
ibrahimbrightspark , this was after updating21:32
jmdterry, And how do I get a shell in order to do that?21:32
botcityfosstux:  is it a command line program ? have you tried the man pages21:33
terryjmd: Ctrl-Alt-F621:33
jmdand then?21:33
terryjmd: Ctrl-Alt-F6  (Hold Ctrl and Alt keys while hitting F6)21:33
jmdNo shell appears21:33
blundakat_Hello, I am having issues making a bios flash cd. I attempt to make an iso of the IMG file but it tells me Size of boot image is 2884 sectors -> genisoimage: Error - boot image 'F1B.IMG' has not an allowable size. any ideas? why would the floppy boot image be 4 sectors too big?21:34
warrenhej21:34
terryjmd: Ctrl-Alt-F5  (Hold Ctrl and Alt keys while hitting F5)21:34
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Guest38131yo21:34
brightsparkibrahim: did you change from 10.04 to 10.10 or similar?  or was it just an update of software packages?21:34
ibrahimbrightspark , this is not the first time the sound vanish , every time i do update it vanishes uptill now two times21:34
Guest38131somebody polish?21:34
ibrahimbrightspark , this is not the first time the sound vanish , every time i do update it vanishes uptill now two times21:34
jmdterry, No. that doesn't work either.21:34
terryjmd: Was it a distribution upgrade that failed?21:35
ibrahimbrightspark_ no, software package21:35
Starminn!polish | Guest3813121:35
ubottuGuest38131: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.21:35
jmdI don't think so.21:35
administratorjuh21:35
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Guest9018521:36
terryjmd: What version of Ubuntu did you have installed before all this happened?21:36
Guest90185ciao21:36
root__hi21:36
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jmdI really forget.21:36
terryjmd: Was it 9.04 ?  Do you still have the CD?21:37
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djazzhi, im having trouble installing 10.04.2... it works just great from the liveCD, but after install some error messages shows and I only see the desktop bg :/21:37
makaveli0129anyone know how to get netflix working under ubuntu without using virtualbox?21:37
cognac-gammadjazz: drivers ok?21:37
Starminndjazz: What are the messages? (If they're long, use http://paste.ubuntu.com )21:38
terryjmd: I'm afraid you are goint to have to start over.  (ReInstall Ubuntu).   I would suggest getting a copy of 10.04 and installing that version.21:38
Axlinmakaveli0129: you're out of luck on that one, unfortunately21:38
blundakat_Hello, I am having issues making a bios flash cd. I attempt to make an iso of the IMG file but it tells me Size of boot image is 2884 sectors -> genisoimage: Error - boot image 'F1B.IMG' has not an allowable size. any ideas? why would the floppy boot image be 4 sectors too big?21:38
io_errormakaveli0129: Not seen anyone do that successfully. Your best bet is to complain to Netflix.21:38
jmdterry, I was afraid you were going to say that.21:38
djazzdont have the errors nor the machine here atm21:38
nit-witmakaveli0129, no netflix in open source other then virtual21:38
nit-witvirtual ms21:38
djazzsomething like command 'terminal' was not found21:38
terryjmd: Well, there you go. You don't have to be afraid any more, I said it.  ;)21:38
makaveli0129axlin: thanks that what i thought i tried googling but no luck :-( guess that sucks now i have to boot into windows21:38
fosstuxbotcity: well - congruity is a pygtk tool as a frontend for concordance...21:38
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brightsparkibrahim: try alsamixer and see if one of the levels is really low21:39
fosstuxthe error comes from concordance.21:39
quuxmanthis is interesting: `sudo apt-get install upstart-job sysvinit` ... "upstart : Conflicts: sysvinit but 2.88dsf-13.1 is to be installed"21:39
jmdIt's a shame that ubuntu is getting more like windows every day.21:39
djazzit works from live boot but not from hdd? :/21:39
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terryjmd: How is that?21:39
quuxmanshowpkg shows upstart-job depends on sysvinit but no specific version21:39
Starminnjmd: I disagree. More like Mac.21:39
io_errorI switched to KDE.21:40
jmdReboot, Reinstall ...21:40
Starminnjmd: But that's off-topic.21:40
Tupladhow do I download an extra language for ubuntu gnome ? I can't get Dutch (nl_NL or nl_BE) installed21:40
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dragonkeeperis it possible to make any selected window semi-transparent ?21:40
Starminnjmd: What have you had to reboot for? Other than kernel updates, nothing I'd say.21:40
io_errorjmd: I missed your original issue21:40
quuxmanwhat this means is I can't install mysql-server without removig sysvinit, which I can only do if I type "Yes, do as I say" which makes me nervous21:40
neckoox_sorry i got disconnected ... so : I installed manually a deb package ( sudo dpkg --install myprogram )  , but an old version already existed of that program on ly computer . the deb installed the myprogram without errors ... but when i launch it from command line , i'm still on the old version . any idea ?21:41
gekko_i've got a serious problem with my pc: i turn it on, then i choose ubuntu from grub menu and after a few seconds, it abruptly shuts down. but if i stay in the grub menu, it doesnt shutdown :\21:41
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terryjmd: My ubuntu system has been running for years. The original install was 6.0621:41
gekko_same with windows (i've got dual boot)21:41
blundakat_Hello, I am having issues making a bios flash cd. I attempt to make an iso of the IMG file but it tells me Size of boot image is 2884 sectors -> genisoimage: Error - boot image 'F1B.IMG' has not an allowable size. any ideas? why would the floppy boot image be 4 sectors too big?21:41
waynerrterry, my fresh ubuntu 10.10 just crashed out of no reason ( that i can find yet ), the same system ran windows day in and out :p21:42
krukhi, how to disable the ubuntu read - only?21:42
Starminnkruk: Where is the file located?21:43
ibrahimbrightspark nothing is low21:43
Starminnkruk: If it's outside of /home/YourUser then it's because you don't have write permissions. You have to be root (i.e. use sudo) to manipulate those files, then.21:44
Starminn!permissions | kruk21:44
ubottukruk: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions21:44
fosstuxbotcity: As I checked here, my remote is not supported: http://phildev.net/concordance/supported_models.shtml21:45
neckoox_Hi guys ! i have a problem here ...21:45
neckoox_I installed manually a deb package ( sudo dpkg --install myprogram )  , but an old version already existed of that program on ly computer . the deb installed the myprogram without errors ... but when i launch it from command line , i'm still on the old version . any idea ?21:45
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io_errorneckoox_: I suggest you remove both versions, and then reinstall the version you want21:45
dragonkeeperhow do you make any selected window semi-transparent ?21:46
neckoox_<io_error> : i did ! but , didn't seem to work . the old version was installed from the rep . the second from a downladed deb21:46
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Tupladhow do I download an extra language for ubuntu gnome ? I can't get Dutch (nl_NL or nl_BE) installed21:46
terrywaynerr: You probably hava a hardware issue.21:47
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roothi21:48
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JernejLwhen was 2.6.35-28-server kernel for ubuntu released?21:48
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krukWhat file? I am a beginner.21:48
terrywaynerr: If you are trying to suggest that MS Windows has a more stable system, well, all I can say is, you've got your work cut out for you.21:49
Starminnkruk: What do you mean? I was just asking what file was "read-only"21:49
waynerrterry, i run debian/centos servers since years and no microsoft product comes near the stability but when it comes to desktops ...21:49
xiamxProblem using sudo -u cherokee /usr/bin/python -v [...]manage.py runfcgi proto.  Returns manage.py': [Errno 13] Permission denied.. can anyone help?21:50
macoJernejL: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux  there's a 28.49 and a 28.50, but theyre both linked on here21:50
mgolischxiamx: manage.py is not executable?21:50
mgolischoh you run it with python sorry21:50
mgolischprobably not the problem then21:51
JernejLis 2.6.35-28-server upgrade able to be applied at runtime?21:51
krukX does not load21:51
JernejLrebootless patches?21:51
xiamxmgolisch, manage.py has -rwxr-xr-x21:51
krukUbuntu Studio 8.0421:51
macoJernejL: no, kernel upgrades require a reboot to take effect, so if you have uptime worries, read the changelog and see if the changes even apply to you21:51
mgolischxiamx: is that user the owner? id asume it actualy need r to read the python code21:51
xiamxmgolisch, cherokee is the webserver, the owner is my nickname21:52
terrywaynerr: It is the same with desktops.21:52
macoJernejL: for example https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.35-28.50 shows it's mostly changes to EeePC support with a graphics driver change and one change to Xen. so if you're on a non-Xen server, you don't actually need the upgrade and so don't need to reboot21:52
JernejLit is giving me high performance timing problems21:52
souheilhi21:52
JernejLis there a way to check times whenever server was booted up?21:53
krukloads only the initial and validating partition21:53
xiamxit's really frustrating.. idk why even i set the file premission to 777 , it gives the same error anyway21:53
macoJernejL: the"uptime" command21:53
Starminnterry: Although because there is a lot of user interaction and more applications, there is greater potential for something to go wrong in server vs. desktop (Murphy's Law)21:54
JernejLno21:54
JernejLi need previous times when server was booted up21:54
Starminnterry: But still more stable than Windows OS, yes.21:54
macoJernejL: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.35-28.49 for this one, there's a few security bugs which may be relevant to you21:54
macoJernejL: oooh hmm21:54
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ibrahimbrightspark _ hey sorry it i disconnected it was an error , so nothing's low21:55
_SebastianHi guys, someone here who is familiar about smbus and intel 82801dbm?21:55
mgolischxiamx: it might not have access to the directory or something21:55
JernejLso i want to know when this kernel was put up on the server21:55
macoJernejL: i dont think so21:55
teagehow do i run a command automatic on every reboot?21:55
_Sebastianteage: try /etc/rc.local21:56
xiamxmgolisch, directory is readable to the world21:56
JernejLso there's no boot-up times?21:57
blundakat_Hello, I am having issues making a bios flash cd. I attempt to make an iso of the IMG file but it tells me Size of boot image is 2884 sectors -> genisoimage: Error - boot image 'F1B.IMG' has not an allowable size. any ideas? why would the floppy boot image be 4 sectors too big?21:57
JernejLis it possible to easily downgrade the kernel easily?21:58
teage_Sebastian, would that be /etc/rc.local and then the command i wish to execute?21:58
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_Sebastianteage: take a look in /etc/rc.local and paste your commands inside.21:59
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blundakat_Hello, I am having issues making a bios flash cd. I attempt to make an iso of the IMG file but it tells me Size of boot image is 2884 sectors -> genisoimage: Error - boot image 'F1B.IMG' has not an allowable size. any ideas? why would the floppy boot image be 4 sectors too big?22:00
lrussellcan i put a vnc server on ubuntu server 10.10 without gui22:00
teage_Sebastian, oh ok ic.22:00
teage_Sebastian, Thanks22:00
Guest63197 /EXEC cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh22:01
th0rlrussell: no22:01
joshwhatI deleted my removed my eth0 wired connection when I wanted to only use wireless, but after manually adding it back, I can't connect.  Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!22:02
skomorokhAny idea how to install firefox 3.6 at the same time as the firefox 4 from the firefox-stable ppa? I would just put the tarball in /opt but unfortunately there is no binary tarball for 64bit arch on account of moz being weird22:02
soultekkiei usually found my only windows machine when i selected places>network, but after samba was installed the windows machine is no longer visible but i can still access it trough smb://ip.of.the.machine22:03
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soultekkieany way to make it auto show?22:03
ActionParsnipskomorokh: the daily ppa installs firefox 4 as a seperate app, don't run upgrade though or it will make your 3.5 to the daily build too22:03
bonjoyee!info java22:03
ubottuPackage java does not exist in maverick22:03
ActionParsnip!java22:03
ubottuTo install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.22:03
bonjoyee!java22:03
souheilhi22:04
Jon--Is it a bad idea to mix package updating through apt-get, aptitude and/or synaptic package manager, or will they each know which packages the other(s) have installed?22:04
j_ayen_greenwhat's a good cli ftp package that will let me easily create ftp logins pointed to a particular directory?22:04
ActionParsnipskomorokh: remove the ppa after you install so your upgrades don't get pulled down22:04
skomorokhActionParsnip: I want to upgrade it when new versions are released. That is exactly the problem---firefox-4.0 becomes firefox. Which would be fine, I just apt-get install firefox-3.6 ... except firefox-3.6 is actually some weird alias for firefox-4.0 instead of an actual package.22:05
th0rJon--: they all use the same database, so you can use them all without worry22:05
ActionParsnipj_ayen_green: ftp as a command in terminal is default installed22:05
Jon--th0r, Thanks. Saw some forum posts from 2005 that said that mixing was a bad idea. I infer from this that once it WAS a bad thing to do?22:05
ActionParsnipskomorokh: the daily will give you 2 binaries so you can run either22:05
skomorokhActionParsnip: I use firefox 4 as my primary browser and want updates for it. I'm just looking for a 64 bit ff3 package.22:05
th0rJon--: to my knowledge there has never been any issue with using them all on the same machine, but you can only use one at a time since they all access the same database22:06
ActionParsnipskomorokh: as far as i know, the ppa has both arches22:06
nicolaciao a tutti22:06
skomorokhActionParsnip: Yes, the packages are in 64bit. But they're all called firefox so I can't install both at the same time.22:07
souheiljuste une question comment voir les partiton de ton disque dur apartir du bat4r2 in virtual box22:08
skomorokhActionParsnip: The arch comment was regarding Mozilla only offering binary tarballs in 32bit.22:08
gedOhey, whene ubuntu 11.04 will be reliced?22:08
skomorokhActionParsnip: Otheriwse I'd just untar it in /opt.22:08
gedOhey, whene ubuntu 11.04 will be relised?22:08
teage_Sebastian, Well this is something, i have no rc.local. I have rc0.d, rc1.d , rc2.d , all the way to rc6.d and a rcS.d. I see no rc.local22:08
Starminn!11.04 | gedO22:08
ubottugedO: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems.22:08
j_ayen_greenActionParsnip, I've been doing dev on ubuntu for a year now, but still feel like a noob. I've used ftp cli forever for transport, but never for admin...it will let me set up users?22:08
ActionParsnipskomorokh: the daily build has 64bit builds and will give you a firefox-4.0 which will run version 4, firefox will run 3.622:08
neckoox_souheil : it's an english irc here . you might find help on the french one22:08
souheilwhere22:09
skomorokhActionParsnip: Ya, but those are daily builds.  I just want stable 4.0 and 3.6 :)22:09
gedOthx22:09
teage_Sebastian, Im an idiot. I found it22:09
ActionParsnipskomorokh: thats al I can advise22:09
th0r!fr22:09
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:09
neckoox_souheil : i don't know , never been there !22:09
skomorokhActionParsnip: Ah well, thanks for trying.22:09
usuariooyeeeeeeeeeee22:09
souheilhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh22:09
souheilthinx help found22:09
usuarioken ers22:10
ActionParsnipskomorokh: the daily build is pretty good22:10
j_ayen_greenActionParsnip, basically want to create newftpuser who logs in and ends up in /www/thisdir/this_sub_dir  ... if so, I'll go read the man entry22:10
usuariodddddddddd22:10
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usuarios22:10
FloodBot1usuario: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:10
usuarioeeeeeeeeeeeeee22:10
ActionParsnipj_ayen_green: you could scipt with ssh and if you use GPG keys and you can script ssh22:10
erUSULusuario: stop22:10
usuarioken ers22:11
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usuarioes enserio22:11
gianni_ /load .xchat2/budus.so22:11
erUSUL!es | usuario22:11
ubottuusuario: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.22:11
usuariocomo te yamas22:11
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usuariode donde eres22:12
usuarioeeeeeeeeeeee22:12
erUSULusuario: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.22:12
ActionParsnipskomorokh: or you could compile and make a deb ;)22:12
usuariowenooo22:12
usuariohello22:12
bazhangusuario, ubuntu support question?22:12
usuariohello mi name is mari22:13
hellslinger5by522:13
usuario-''''''''''''''''22:13
EyesAnyone here willing to help me out with my bcm4312?22:13
skomorokhActionParsnip: Daily builds or compiling from scratch? Wonderful options.22:13
erUSULEyes: what do you need help with?22:14
erUSUL!find b4322:14
ubottuFound: b43-fwcutter, firmware-b43-installer, firmware-b43-lpphy-installer, firmware-b43legacy-installer22:14
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx   Eyes22:14
ActionParsnipskomorokh: well the compiled debs aren't to your taste so what else can you do.22:14
erUSULEyes: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer22:14
erUSULEyes: and reboot22:14
skomorokhActionParsnip: Both mozilla and ubuntu are so silly about this... Usually I could just extract the binary or install two packages and use /etc/alternatives but mozilla killed the first one and the ubuntu packagers the second.22:15
ActionParsnipskomorokh: its one of the disadvantages of packaged systems22:15
gianni_ /load .xchat2/budus.so22:15
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Jon--skomorokh, Use chrome. ;)22:15
tbruff13I need help how do i use the Ubuntu Music Store22:15
skomorokhJon--: To debug my firefox extension?22:16
THEBRODOZER|WORKLogan_ , my problem is my stupid laptop was hibernating after 10 minutes22:16
Jon--Yes. Of course.22:16
THEBRODOZER|WORKlol22:16
THEBRODOZER|WORKI fixed it, so I shouldn't have any problems22:16
ActionParsnipJon--: skomorokh: +1 for chrome 9well chromium daily ;))22:16
EyeserUSUL: yeah its not as simple as that, already installed, did a purge to be safe my card was misdetected as non lpphy. reinstalled b43-fwcutter, b43-lpphy, modprobe reports modules are loaded, no entries in iwconfig or ifconfig22:16
ActionParsnipor arora :D22:16
Jon--ActionParsnip, Is chromium-daily more recent than google-chrome-unstable?22:16
Jon--I guess it must as google's package is not updated daily. Quite often still.22:17
ActionParsnipJon--: its a daily build, compiled by a bot once a day. It has lots of bleeding edge features which are being considered for the stable. fun times22:17
Jon--Interesting22:17
gianni__ /load .xchat2/budus.so22:17
Jon--google-chrome-unstable is up to 12.0.712.0 dev22:17
erUSULEyes: sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 then do « dmesg | tail -n25 » paste that in pastebin22:17
ActionParsnipJon--: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa22:17
tbruff13Can someone help me use the Ubuntu Music Store22:18
neverbluei just installed Proftpd on Ubuntu, running from inetd, rather than stand alone, how do I restart the server ?22:18
Jon--ActionParsnip, No thanks. ;)22:18
ActionParsnipJon--: 12.0.724.0 (80289)22:18
EyeserUSUL: one moment please22:18
roodwhat does port forwarding mean?22:18
Jon--Oh dear22:18
gianni__ /load .xchat2/budus.so22:18
erUSULneverblue: well if it is managed by inietd you can not restart it as it is only running when there is a connection22:18
Jon--You're .012 sub-sub versions ahead of me22:18
Jon--I'm so behind :O22:18
neverblueerUSUL: so when I edit the config, save, the changes should be applied on my next connection attempt22:19
roodlike, if someone tells me to "forward port 5900"  what are they telling me to do?22:19
hachreneverblue: all you can do is kill the current clients22:19
ActionParsnipJon--: sure but mine gets updated on a literally daily basis :D22:19
hachreneverblue: yes22:19
Jon--ActionParsnip, But yours doesn't have Google code that is only in Google chrome ;)22:19
erUSULneverblue: i expect so22:19
gianni__ /load .xchat2/budus.so22:19
neverbluehmmm22:19
ActionParsniprood: it tells your router to allow connections on your WAN interface and be pushed through to the internal network as you setup. Without it the connection is simply dropped22:19
Jon--Wait22:19
ActionParsnipJon--: what's that?22:20
Jon--I may be wrong about that22:20
neverblueweird, I get a connect/closed immediately22:20
ActionParsnipJon--: what's google code?22:20
Jon--Google Chrome might contain no code that isn't in Chromium. Someone care to clarify?22:20
tbruff13Ok I installed Rhythmbox so that I could use The ubuntu music store but I do not know how to access it can someone please help22:20
Jon--I've heard mixed reports22:20
hachreJon--: Chrome contains code that is not in Chromium22:20
red2kicGoogle Chrome is based on Chromium, no?22:20
chipmenkwhy does openoffice spreadsheet go grey then white then grey and take 5 min to open 42k file?22:20
Jon--hachre, Which code? Is it script rendering, PDF rendering, etc?22:21
hachreJon--: The integrated flash for example, or the PDF viewer are only in Chrome but not Chromium22:21
Jon--Nailed it. ;)22:21
ActionParsnipred2kic: the bug reports in chromium get used and a snapshot made to make chrome (as well as them adding more tracking stuff if that stuff bothers you)22:21
EyeserUSUL: reloading the module seems to have done it, why does it need to be reloaded after boot though22:22
erUSULEyes: no idea22:22
tbruff13Ok I installed Rhythmbox so that I could use The ubuntu music store but I do not know how to access it can someone please help does anyone know how to help me22:22
ActionParsnipchipmenk: thats compiz showing the app is hanging22:22
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Jon--Was Chroimum around before Google Chrome?22:22
red2kicActionParsnip: OMG! :P22:22
Malinawow, that new natty doe snothing but crahs,22:22
Jon--Chromium*22:22
chipmenkI've had larger files load faster in lotus 12322:22
chipmenkon floppies22:23
hachreJon--: Chromium is basically the open source basis for Chrome22:23
Malinaif I skip install files during install, at elats it wont throw errors however compiz loves ot just fail a lot22:23
erUSULMalina: beta software is beta news at 11 :)22:23
Malinaye true22:23
neverblueerUSUL: i want any user that logins to have read/write access into their ~, upon connection. Do you know the syntax to toss into the .conf ?22:23
erUSULMalina: ask in #ubuntu+1 please22:23
Jon--hachre, Separate developers then?22:23
Malinabut fact was, if it's beta, it should be quit einstallablke, I couldn't install any natty flavour for ages22:23
jdeslauranyone using squid with single sign on?22:23
erUSULneverblue: no sorry.22:23
hachreJon--: No, but separate licenses22:23
neverbluenp22:23
Jon--I see22:24
MalinaerUSUL, Thx and sorry22:24
neverbluelooking in the Ubuntu Guie22:24
neverblueGuide*22:24
ActionParsnipMalina: remember to MD5 test the ISO you download (probably explains missing files), but support is in #ubuntu+122:24
macoJon--: i think the difference is in who builds the final product. official builds being Chrome, and unofficial-to-google ones being chromium22:24
hachreJon--: Chromium is free, Chrome is not22:24
Jon--hachre, Did Google start the Chromium project? This is the only thing I'm unclear on.22:24
macoJon--: yes22:24
Jon--Chrome is free, just not FOSS22:24
hachreJon--: Yes22:24
Jon--I understand now22:24
Jon--Thanks22:24
erUSULMalina: no problem :)22:24
EyeserUSUL: after trying to connect: wlan0: direct probe to AP [routers MAC] timed out (3 tries)22:24
hachreJon--: It's free as in free beer but not as in freedom ;)22:24
hachreJon--: Chrome that is22:24
speedxcorecan you use ubuntu one cloud service, with other dists, like debian and mint?22:25
Jon--hachre, I understand what you meant, I just don't like it when someone goes "not open source is equal to not free". That's not really true ;).22:25
* Jon-- hopes Richard Stallman isn't here22:25
hachreJon--: True, but I didn't say those two things in the same sentence ;)22:25
Jon--Haha22:26
Starminnspeedxcore: Probably. You can on Windows and mobile devices so I'd say so22:26
Jon--True :P22:26
Seven_Six_Twospeedxcore, I believe you can. I read about a new client for windows, so another distro shouldn't be a problem.22:26
Jon--I gotta go eat, thanks for clearing the whole Chromium/Chrome stuff22:26
ActionParsnipspeedxcore: i'd ask in their channels to check22:26
hachreJon--: cya ;)22:26
Malina:)22:26
speedxcoreActionParsnip: which channel?22:26
ActionParsnipspeedxcore: wel debian's channel is #debian22:26
speedxcoreActionParsnip: ah you mean like that.22:26
Malinaby the way, this is a mix question.. can I lock down gome2, so any upgrade or when I do dist upgrade form 10.10 I won;'t get unity or G3 (gnome3)?22:26
EyeserUSUL: b43-phy0 ERROR: Fatal DMA error: 0x0000080022:26
speedxcoreActionParsnip: I check it out22:26
ActionParsnipspeedxcore: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org is the mint channel22:27
speedxcoreActionParsnip: mkey thaks22:27
Malinaelse, my ubuntu times have come to an end for a bit till either it is more modular, cusomtisable or altogether lockable :p22:27
hwildeanybody have insight with nvidia quadro 600?  nvidia-xconfig bricks the system.  I've tried installing all of the drivers.  nvidia-settings says it's not in use, but it is.22:27
StarminnMalina: Those are shells so you'll keep GNOME222:27
Seven_Six_TwoMalina, you can lock packages in synaptic, and there's also a file (don't remember where) that sets the "upgradable" flag22:28
Malinaok thank god22:28
Malinathanks Starminn  Seven_Six_Two22:28
ActionParsnip!pin22:28
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto22:28
erUSULEyes: 50243322:28
Malinabut pinning is just about priority isnt it?22:28
tr3nton!gnomeshell22:28
erUSULEyes: sorry https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/50243322:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 502433 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lucid: b43 fatal DMA error on Dell Mini 9" [Medium,Triaged]22:28
erUSULEyes: try with newer drivers ? « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-$(lsb_release -cs)-generic »22:28
Seven_Six_Twothat's what it's called. I once did a pinned downgrade against the advice of people in irc. I think that was etch->woody22:29
EyeserUSUL: apparently this DMA error isnt uncommon hahaha22:29
erUSULEyes: no; not at all22:29
Seven_Six_TwoMalina, pinning will stop a package from upgrading or downgrading, but isn't fun because of dependency hell22:30
Malinaye I thought with pinning, I would only set priority of which reps to use22:30
jayanthello everybody. Can somebody tell me which package provides the command "who" ? Thank you22:31
Malinalike pinning 700 repo universe , 600 multiverse then multiverse would be preferred or aso22:31
Malinabut as long as I can lock in synaptic or so, but will that lead to dependency hell as well?22:31
Seven_Six_TwoMalina, it can be if you add a ppa but need to keep an older library that would otherwise update it.22:31
Malinaok Seven_Six_Two , so hmm, basically dep hell or leave ubuntu?22:32
MK`oh! I forgot. Does ubuntu have full ipv6 support?22:32
Seven_Six_TwoMalina, it depends on what you try to keep, and what needs a newer version to work. The lower level the package you try to pin (like libc6) the more likely you'll have trouble.22:32
Malinagah.. well.. it was fun whilst it lasted.. great diustro but seems I will fall back to either squeeze or go rolling release but which is more modular (eg. arch)22:32
Malinaye but holding back unity / G3 surely to keep gnome 2 surely will be as you say22:33
Malinadep hell :/22:33
Seven_Six_TwoMalina, I'm sorry, I interjected and I don't even think I know what your issue is22:33
Malinaunity isn't "terrible' but it just is too inefifcient a desktop layout for me22:33
yulerI want to move my /home to a different partition (same ext4 filesystem), but getting inexact copies using "diff -r".  http://linuxmafia.com/faq/VALinux-kb/copying-directory-trees.html indicates the --sparse switch may be the reason.  Can anyone clarify what that does and why I would or would not want to use it?  Do I really need to copy all /home files over, or will some be rebuilt?22:33
Fireblastoadd #ubuntu22:33
Seven_Six_TwoMalina, only if the new packages are replacements for what you have.22:33
Malinano Seven_Six_Two , your advice is accurate22:33
ActionParsnipMalina: just log into the traditional desktop. It is present in Natty....22:34
Malinait is precsiely what I need to get a picture of to know if I a to hack in my new natty release and 'lock it down' or if im in worse trouble than i hoped22:34
erUSUL!separatehome | yuler22:34
ubottuyuler: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome22:34
Fireblastoadd #ubuntu22:34
Seven_Six_TwoMalina, if unity and g3 are just shells, it's likely you'll be able to keep your current desktop22:34
MalinaActionParsnip,  oh? is it ? :$ jpw?22:34
ActionParsnipMalina: yes, just log out of unity, then click username then choose the desktop from the session drop down.22:35
GuyCanadagood god, is there a way to revert back to the interface from 10.10, just installed 11.04 beta and its fucking terrible22:35
Malinaah well, I mean ok I thought Gnome 3 was more than just22:35
yulerI've read psychocats page.  It produced a difference with "diff -r", hence further research and IRC.22:35
bazhangGuyCanada, no cursing22:35
GuyCanadakk sorry22:35
ActionParsnipMalina: you need to research before making such ridiculous statements22:35
iceroot_GuyCanada: #ubuntu+122:35
Malinaah ok, so I can have unity AND gnome 3 (I knew I can have like the xfce kde etc but i thought unity was a spawn of G3 which would update gnome 2)22:35
MalinaActionParsnip, I just came in to ask, not to claim, and I didn't know :/22:35
Seven_Six_TwoGuyCanada, log out and log back in, choosing another desktop from the session dropdown22:35
GuyCanadakk22:35
erUSULyuler: a difference means? a file not matching? copy that file again22:35
MalinaI bnee truggling with a non OS comp for 2 days since I wiped my disk abnd the natty isos wouldnt install, thank you very much22:36
ActionParsnipMalina: so why the "i'm going back to squeeze" stuff then....22:36
Malinano 'back to'22:36
MalinaI been on ubuntuy fior 2 yrs22:36
Malinafor*22:36
yulererUSUL:  hundreds or files22:36
Malinabecause I thought that I didn't have a choice to keep gnome which i have used for yrs ahead of unity, which I thought was a ubbuntu versiion of new gnome or something22:36
Malinaand it sounded like if I wish to keep gnome 2 without unity I can get dep hell22:37
ActionParsnipMalina: linux touts choice so taking it away would be against everything linux is22:37
StarminnMalina: By default, Natty will have the choice to use either Unity or "classic" (GNOME 2)22:37
erUSULyuler: :( you used the exact command? the find cpio combo ?22:37
MalinaGREAT Starminn , sorry I didn't have a feeling it was like that22:38
StarminnMalina: They're different, so it's okay. :) You can also use GNOME 3 if you'd rather, instead of one of those.22:38
FrankFurterhello, I'm thinking of switching my ventrilo server to ubuntu server edition.  How do I download the .tar.gz file from the command line?22:38
Malinaya, I was looking forward to gnome 3, I will like it in time but am waiting till customisation is more de fact available I think :)22:38
macoFrankFurter: wget22:39
FrankFurtermaco where do I find the path to the file?22:39
braxtonIs there a 64-bit version of ubuntu?22:39
macoFrankFurter: no idea. i assumed you knew what .tar.gz you wanted...22:39
macobraxton: yes22:39
Seven_Six_Twobraxton, yes22:39
ActionParsnipFrankFurter: you can use lynx to web browse to the file22:39
erUSULbraxton: yes22:39
ActionParsnipbraxton: yes22:39
MK`I am using ubuntu 64-bit now :)22:40
braxtonI am running a 32 bit version, but apparently my computer has a 64 bit width processor.22:40
yulererUSUL: yes.  After "diff -r",  I notice the --sparse switch on cpio and found it may be why there is a difference, but being rather new, I'm not entirely certain.22:40
hwildebraxton, yes22:40
* hwilde just wanted to fit in22:40
FrankFurterI know which one I want22:40
FrankFurterActionParsnip, thanks22:40
Seven_Six_TwoI'm 64 bit too!22:40
ActionParsnipbraxton: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/22:40
Fireblastoadd #ubuntu22:40
macoActionParsnip: im confused now. isnt that just full of isos?22:40
fennucciomg hi22:41
MK`what advantages are there to having your /home on a separate partition?22:41
Seven_Six_Twohey fennucci22:41
ActionParsnipmaco: read the 2nd link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso22:41
luis__hi22:41
GuyCanadaok so im back on the ubuntu classic interface but now google chrome has a window border where it didnt used to22:41
macoActionParsnip: oh sorry i thought you were responding to the tarball thing22:41
GuyCanadacan i fix this?22:41
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Seven_Six_TwoMK`, your home files won't cause the system to run out of space for important stuff like logs22:41
ActionParsnipMK`: easier backups, easier reinstalls as you just have to set the partition as /home and the settings are retained22:41
red2kicMK`: You never have to back up your home directory.22:41
macored2kic: not true22:42
StarminnMK`: If you have to reinstall, your files will be preserved.22:42
red2kicMK`: Better advantage to have /home on different hard drive. :)22:42
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MK`Ah.22:42
drozdakany obenbox users in here?22:42
red2kicmaco: Well, only if the hard drive failed.22:42
macored2kic: using a separate partition is no guarantee against a disk failure.22:42
Seven_Six_TwoMK`, that's the most important! you can reinstall and keep all of your personal files and settings and emails etc22:42
drozdak*openbox22:42
macored2kic: right, which is why i thought people usually had backups....22:42
ActionParsnipdrozdak: on my server I use LXDE + openbox22:42
GuyCanadahow do i restart compiz?22:42
Malinabraxton, how much memory (RAM) do you have?22:42
braxtonMalina: What's the command for that?22:42
Malinafor all 'modern' /new computers, 4 GB ram is pretty uch the minimum, so 64 is becoming a de facto arch more and more now in the desktop worold, whne that happens, those last pesky plugins will soon enough suddenly materialise ;p22:42
Malinabraxton, ytype22:42
Malinatop22:42
FloodBot1Malina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:42
MK`so / holds the base installation and /home holds all the configs for it?22:42
macoGuyCanada: compiz --replace22:42
Fireblastoadd #ubuntu22:42
erUSULyuler: it may be if you had many files with 0's if i am reading the cpio manual correctly22:42
macoMK`: /home holds per-user configs22:42
ActionParsnipGuyCanada: alt+f2:  compiz --replace22:42
braxtonMalina: I dont' have ytype installed.22:42
MK`ok22:42
macoMK`: systemwide configs are in /etc22:42
GuyCanadathanks guys22:43
Malinastop trolling braxton22:43
Malina,,!,,22:43
MK`I wonder if I should separate them22:43
MK`I'll test it out on my other PC where I *just* installed Ubuntu22:43
braxtonMalina: Do you want a screenshot? And no, I'm afraid I'm not a troll.22:43
MK`and /home is empty22:43
ActionParsnipMK`: yes, or you can have /home as just a folder in /22:43
braxtonMalina: Just give me a second.22:43
drozdakActionParsnip i have problem with hinting on openbox + xfce panel at ubuntu 8.0422:43
Malinait's a bloody typo:22:43
MalinaTYPE22:43
Malinatop22:43
Malinain22:43
Malinaconsole22:43
FloodBot1Malina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:43
bazhangMalina, stop that22:43
Fireblastoadd #ubuntu22:43
hwildebraxton, type "free" how much memory does it say total22:43
bazhangFireblasto, thats not how to add22:43
LjLFireblasto: what are you trying to do?22:43
ActionParsnipdrozdak: wassup?22:44
Seven_Six_TwoMK`, separate home is definitely the way to go for a desktop. I do a separate /var for my server, for similar reasons22:44
Fireblastobazhang and LjL, script going wrong, fixing right now actually22:44
Fireblastodon't panic ;)22:44
bazhangFireblasto, okay22:44
braxton2836232 k total.22:44
MK`This is a laptop, so can I get away with having them the same here?22:45
drozdakits the hinting i have it in any gtk apps but on openbox window decoration fonts doesnt semm to have it22:45
leapy0yoone of my external hard drive constantly spins down then up again. How can i fix that22:45
yulererUSUL: I thought the same thing, seeing how there's a few unstarted torrents in /home/Downloads.  Rather than clean /home to minimize zero stringed files, I just want to copy the files as-is and sort it out after I've mounted the new /home.22:45
drozdakits good on newer ubuntu installs but i dont wanna upgrade right now22:45
braxtonMalina: Why does my RAM matter?22:45
hwildebraxton, what is your question?22:45
MK`actually... On the old PC I installed Ubuntu on an old harddrive. I think it'd be more wise to install /home and swap on the old HD (like, 10 years old) while putting /home on the younger one22:45
Seven_Six_TwoMK`, yes. by laptop, I mean a normal machine for a normal user or 1022:46
MK`er22:46
Fireblastowww.ubuntu.com22:46
MK` / and swap22:46
MK`ok22:46
braxtonWell earlier I asked if there was a 64 bit version of ubuntu, which there is, and then Malina asked me how much ram I had.22:46
Fireblastomhm22:46
Fireblastogood22:46
Fireblastono reaction from the script22:46
erUSULyuler: use another copying method? cp -a ?22:46
hwildebraxton, we answered your question now what do you want22:46
DrekAlotsFrom the CLI and hafter setting up a PPTP tunnel what command can you use to verify the tunnel is up?22:46
LjLi can't get wireless (using network manager) working with my eeepc 901 at the moment, it's probably something i did, but i last used it long ago and right now i can't pinpoint what it is. can you help me troubleshoot? i'm on maverick22:47
braxtonhwilde: I would like to have better performance and I think I would like to change to the 64 bit version, but I'm not sure if I should.22:47
Seven_Six_Twoyuler, if you just want a verbatim copy, that's what dd is for.22:47
drozdakActionParsnip i propably just need a good copy of configuration file from newer ubuntu/openbox release for proper font hinting22:47
MK`Running ubuntu 64 with xchat and several instances of pidgin, I am currently at 588 MB ram22:47
hwildebraxton, 64bit version lets you use more ram.  if you have a 64bit machine then go ahead and try 64bit version and more ram22:47
Axlinbraxton: i think his/her mindset was that if you had, say, less than 4 GB of RAM, then there's not much need to worry about switching to the 64 bit version22:47
Seven_Six_Twoyuler, it will copy regardless of file states22:47
erUSULLjL: you have wlan0 in iwconfig? can it scan? « sudo iwlist wlan0 scan » ?22:48
StarminnHow can I tell if my machine is 64-bit compatible?22:48
LjLerUSUL: Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down22:48
erUSULLjL: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up22:48
ActionParsnipStarminn: check your CPU architecture and see what it is, 64bit or 32bit22:49
braxtonhwilde: Well, when I divided the total amount of memory I had in top by 1024, I got a non-integer, which is weird.22:49
hwildebraxton, you have 3Gigs22:49
fennucciStarminn,22:49
fennucciwhat kind of processor you have?22:49
StarminnActionParsnip: I know that. :) I was just wondring where I could find that information ;) I don't think it is, as it's old, but I'm just curious.22:49
MK`XD I think I found a bug22:49
red2kicStarminn: Run "lscpu"22:49
ActionParsnipbraxton: you can use:  free -m  to express it in Mb instead, easier to read22:49
MK`I checked the size of / and it says 128 TB.22:49
ActionParsnipStarminn: well, what CPU do you have?22:50
neverblueanyone able to help me get my proftpd server running, I can connect, but the connection drops immediately ?22:50
LjLerUSUL: Operation is not possible due to RF-kill.      now i remember i got this the other day and tried to mess with rfkill, and there is both an "eeepc-wlan" and a "phy5" Wireless LAN there, if that's of any importance. i also have eee-control installed (wifi is enabled on it), thinking that might be related.22:50
StarminnArchitecture is i686,  but CPU op-mode(s) are 32-bit and 64-bit. (What is an op-mode?)22:50
red2kicStarminn: You probably can use 64bit.22:50
erUSULLjL: « sudo rfkill list all » output shows something blocked?22:51
braxtonhwilde: So switching to 64 bit wouldn't help me at all? That sucks.22:51
Seven_Six_Twohow do I request a chanop?22:51
Starminnred2kic: Even though it's not an AMD64 architecture?22:51
hwildebraxton, espeically if your performance is not currently ram-limited.22:51
LjLerUSUL: yes, phy5 is soft blocked.22:51
fennucciis there anyway to setup a quick way to change screen brightness without going into the actual preferences panel?22:51
Starminnbraxton: There's always PAE kernel22:51
red2kicStarminn: amd64 or intel64 or whatever64 is really samething.22:51
braxtonhwilde: Well, for some reason I can't run minecraft and firefox at the same time.22:51
ActionParsnipStarminn: yes thats the arch of ubuntu,what is the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model | grep name22:51
hwildebraxton, try google-chrome22:51
fennuccihow much ram you has braxton22:51
braxtonhwilde: Well, I can, but with severe frame rate cuts in mft.inecra22:51
fennucciget more maybe22:52
erUSULLjL: « sudo rfkill unblock all  » or phy5 instead of all22:52
braxton*minecraft22:52
macofennucci: 3gb22:52
braxtonfennucci: I'm on a laptop.22:52
fennucciI have 8gb of ram, and a i7 and I can do like million things22:52
red2kicStarminn: AMD came up with cpu64 first so we name it amd64.22:52
braxtonStarminn: What?22:52
fennuccime too22:52
hwildebraxton, get a desktop, get a better video card, duhh22:52
fennucciI heard there were issues with i7 and ubuntu?22:52
StarminnActionParsnip: Oh. It's an Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz22:52
fennucciI'm about to try installing ubuntu on my toshiba a50522:52
fennucciwith i722:52
ActionParsnipStarminn: then its 32bit22:52
fennuccidual boot22:52
Starminnred2kic: I know AMD64 == 64-bit. :)22:52
neverbluemy FTP client receives 'PORT command failed'22:52
LjLerUSUL: ok, network manager sprang to life. now i don't know whether this will happen again next time i boot, but at least i know how to solve it temporarily, thanks22:52
StarminnActionParsnip: What gave it away?22:52
macobraxton: PAE= Physical Address Extensions ... it's a 32bit extension that lets > 4GB of RAM be addressed by the OS, but each program is still limited to 4GB22:52
red2kicStarminn: The worst scenario? The amd64 disc stopped you from installing because it's incompatible.22:53
jjleeI have an apple trackpad which worked fine for me some months ago.  Now when I pair it I get a udev remove event a second or two right after the udev add event.  Any idea what's causing that?22:53
Starminn!pae | braxton22:53
ubottubraxton: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info22:53
ActionParsnipStarminn: there are no 64bit P4s ;)22:53
sitihye22:53
hwildebraxton, here is the solution for you:   get a desktop, get a better video card.  end of story bro22:53
braxtonhwilde: The problem occurs on chrome too, which now makes me think that the problem isn't related to the browser.22:53
erUSULLjL: no problem. the least i can do for someone like you :)22:53
StarminnActionParsnip: :) Aha. That would do it, haha22:53
hwildebraxton, minecraft is eating all your video card.22:53
Belial``ActionParsnip, the Pentium DC is based on prescott which is a core for the p4.22:53
MK`When I boot Ubuntu I always get this error: "init: Failed to spawn smbd main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory" but it boots up properly. What causes this?22:53
Phoenix_Silverhi guys22:53
red2kicMK`: Samba.22:53
Belial``ActionParsnip, or i'm sorry. DC is based on core duo, the D is based on the p4.22:54
erUSUL!find b4322:54
MK`Is that maybe why my internet light is on when I am not connected? :P22:54
ubottuFound: b43-fwcutter, firmware-b43-installer, firmware-b43-lpphy-installer, firmware-b43legacy-installer22:54
red2kicMK`: I don't know. Internet light? Do you have samba installed?22:54
ActionParsnipBelial``:  but that is all was outputted so its an old P4, maybe I was wrong about the 'all' bit :D, the cpuinfo points to a 32bit chip22:54
fennucciubuntu has fucked up my wireless light on my laptop22:54
iTails1Hello, I came in here yesterday to inquire on how to get my wireless working on my Acer Aspire D250. I tried some things and the wireless drivers still wont work. I've tried both of the proprietary drivers for Ubuntu.22:55
fennucciit blinks from red to blue making it look purple22:55
bazhangfennucci, no cursing22:55
Belial``ActionParsnip, yeah, you're definitely right in this situation.22:55
fennucciI cursed?22:55
fennuccio22:55
fennuccisorry22:55
MK`I have xsmbrowser22:55
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MK`but not Samba22:55
Phoenix_Silveranyone tried ubuntu 11.04 works like a charm very promising desktop22:55
bazhangPhoenix_Silver, discussion in #ubuntu+1 please22:55
b1llyis there a way to check my sound drivers cuz my sound doesnt work22:56
ActionParsnipPhoenix_Silver: works fine here. natty  support and discussion in #ubuntu+122:56
b1llyubuntu 10.1022:56
Phoenix_Silverho sorry :)22:56
iTails1Hello, I came in here yesterday to inquire on how to get my wireless working on my Acer Aspire D250. I tried some things and the wireless drivers still wont work. I've tried both of the proprietary drivers for Ubuntu.22:56
red2kicMK`: Ubuntu tried to start a process/service that does not exist. If Samba isn't installed, that's what occur. Either you ignore it or you remove the startup script or you install samba.22:56
MK`go to System > preferences > sound, in hardware check the speakers billy22:56
ActionParsnipb1lly: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh    Thanks22:56
MK`I never installed Samba... hm.22:56
red2kicMK`: Right-click and share a folder. See what happen.22:57
b1llyActionParsnip: just type that entire thing?22:57
neverbluecan someone allow any user to access their FTP site, i am using proftpd and trying to conf all system users to connect, i get an immediate dropped connection, after any user connects?22:57
Phoenix_Silveranother question there is ubunjtu 64 bits ubuntu laptop but is there a ubuntu laptop 64 bits ?22:57
ActionParsnipb1lly: copy and paste the entire command22:57
fennucciAnyone know whyh ubuntu would mess with hardware lights?22:57
MK`"Sharing service is not installed" asks me if I want to install the sharing service22:57
iTails1Hello, I came in here yesterday to inquire on how to get my wireless working on my Acer Aspire D250. I tried some things and the wireless drivers still wont work. I've tried both of the proprietary drivers for Ubuntu. Can I have some help?22:57
red2kicPhoenix_Silver: amd64 is for computer/laptop.22:57
erUSULfennucci: to make them work ?22:57
Phoenix_Silverho oki red2kic it's what i have installed :)22:58
red2kicMK`: That's Samba. People use it to share stuffs (with other computer locally).22:58
fennuccino22:58
ActionParsnipPhoenix_Silver: you can install the 64bit on a lappy if you wish22:58
fennuccifor instance my laptop has a wifi light22:58
chadwinhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii guys22:58
MK`Ah. Sounds useful22:58
fennucciblue is on red is off, anbd they are blinking22:58
MK`I'll install it22:58
fennucciso it looks purple almost22:58
nonoola22:58
fennuccihow come my toshiba laptop wont boot from ubuntu live cd22:58
fennucci:(22:58
b1llyActionParsnip: should i upload the info ?22:58
ymasoryis there something like kcolorchooser that doesn't rely on kde?22:59
Phoenix_Silveri have installed 64 bits on this laptop ActionParsnip22:59
spyder49ubuntu22:59
spyder49ubuntu22:59
Phoenix_Silverworks like a charm :)22:59
b1llyActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cd6a69c0d843287904b568c4e726dd796e53617422:59
xjerxsometimes22:59
ActionParsnipb1lly: please, i gotta jet but it will help others to help you ;)22:59
MK`thank you red2kic22:59
MK`This will allow me to share with windows?23:00
red2kicMK`: No problem. Yes. It will allow you to share with Windows.23:00
nonothis is a suck23:00
MK`Awesome23:00
red2kic!samba | MK`23:00
ubottuMK`: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.23:00
red2kicMK`: Here you go. :)23:00
MK`I was using xsmbrowser to access a windows share23:00
MK`maybe that installation added the smbd script23:00
Phoenix_Silveryou can use ssh23:00
red2kicMK`: You can use Places --> Network23:01
Seven_Six_Twonono, that's not a helpful sentence. if you need help, ask a question.23:01
yasmin_*!list*23:01
MK`!23:01
MK`When did that happen? or is that Samba now23:01
MK`Before when I clicked there it didn't show anything for windows heh23:01
red2kicMK`: No. It have been there since. You just don't know. :)23:01
MK`Amazing23:01
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MK`Thanks man23:01
achrafhi23:02
snake__I'm using rhythmbox, and all of my songs are an unknown time range. Can this be fixed? (mp3 format)23:02
BajKwhy doesnt Kubuntu ahve an context menu optiomn "Run as root" while ubuntu does?23:02
fennuccianyone reason the live cd wouldnt boot?23:02
Seven_Six_Twosnake_, do you have a digital stopwatch and 2 wires with alligator clips?23:03
Phoenix_Silverwhich live cd fennucci ?23:03
snake__Seven_Six_Two, lemme search my couch cussions.23:03
fennucciLTS 10.04 Phoenix_Silver23:03
fennuccion a toshiba a505, i7, etc..23:03
Seven_Six_Twosnake_, lol. do you see the time in other programs, like amarok, audacious, etc?23:04
Phoenix_Silverno reason fennucci always booted for me23:04
Phoenix_Silverhave you set the vesa mode at boot fennucci ?23:04
fennuccisorry?23:05
fennucciI pressed esc23:05
fennucciand all that was presented was WIndows 723:05
fennucciI opened cd drive23:05
fennucciand closed it again23:05
snake__Seven_Six_Two, yes actually. it does.23:05
fennuccithikning perhaps that would do something, but with no luck23:05
fennucciI'll try again23:05
FloodBot1fennucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:05
FloodBot2fennucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:05
siti hello everyone23:05
lxuserhello?23:05
Phoenix_Silverhello23:05
ayeceehi23:05
fennuccihi23:05
lxuserI need some help if possible23:06
fennuccigar23:06
fennuccithsi is annoying23:06
Phoenix_Silverdon't ask to ask .... ask :)23:06
Gulfstreamhow do I find my encryption key?23:06
Starminn!ask23:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:06
Phoenix_Silverlol23:06
meganerdGulfstream: for which service?  PGP, ssh, etc?23:07
Seven_Six_Twosnake__, well, unfortunately I can't help, but at least you know it's only rhythmbox. I never liked rhytmbox anyhow. MPD is the way to go, especially if you have a large collection and/or multiple computers23:07
StarminnPhoenix_Silver: It was driving me batty too.23:07
Random_Dude\exit23:07
Gulfstreammeganerd: umm... hard drive23:07
lxuserjust installed a DVD and it will only play the audio with Movie player with the error... No URI handler implemented for "dvd"23:07
cmykifyI can't run any apps on 10.10, not even terminal or synaptic... any ideas?23:07
Phoenix_Silverold old irc precept :)23:07
macocmykify: if you ctrl+alt+f1, can you login? if so, can you type "mount" and see if it says "ro" in the / row?23:08
meganerdcmykify: you can't run apps, or you can't install apps?23:08
KamiKazeKenjiDoes anyone know where the config file of totem is?23:08
erUSULKamiKazeKenji: probably uses gconf23:08
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Gulfstreamthe encrypted private directory23:08
mouseIs there a way to change the default login sound without moving/changing the desktop-login.ogg file?23:08
Gulfstreamhow do I find the key for it?23:08
Seven_Six_TwoKamakazi, IIRC, totem uses a backend, either xine or gstreamer.23:08
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lxuserdid anybody see my message, there are a lot on here I see. ??23:09
MK`When i am not connected to the internet my internet light is stuck in the "on" position, how can I fix that?23:09
meganerdGulfstream: did you write it down when it prompted you too when you first logged in?23:09
Seven_Six_Twolxuser, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras23:09
Gulfstreammeganerd: no, but it said I could use a command to get the key23:09
fennucciDoes anyone use Gdesklets?23:09
fennucciis desklet like a widget?gadget?23:10
meganerdGulfstream: are you logged in as that user?  That command only works if you can still log in as that user23:10
KamiKazeKenjiWhen I press the arrow keys to rewind or fast-forward while playing audio files, it jumps 15 seconds at a time, and I found that annoying. I wanted to reduce this to five seconds. Is it possible?23:10
Gulfstreammeganerd: I am logged in as the user, do you know what the command is?23:10
neverblueproftpd help: can someone link me to their folder shared portion of the .conf? I want to see how someone else setup the ~ folder shares.23:10
lxuserhow, with symantic package thing?23:10
Starminnfennucci: Widgets23:11
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GatunoRoxhello o/23:11
Phoenix_Silveryes like android widgets23:11
Phoenix_Silverhi GatunoRox23:11
lxuserit's installing, thank you.23:12
StarminnPhoenix_Silver: Or KDE, or newer Windows, etc.23:12
linusoleanderAny one knows how to get the PID out of a nohup running process?23:12
fisixhow can i tell if encryptfs is already enabled and acting when i log in?23:12
Gulfstreammeganerd: nevermind. I found it.23:12
GatunoRoxI'm a newbie linux user, and I have a couple doubts, if it don't bother anyone I'd like you people to answer them23:12
mickster04GatunoRox: just ask away23:13
GatunoRoxthx23:13
GatunoRoxfirst, is there some good advice as to where should I start learning the insides of linux?23:14
meganerdGulfstream: np,23:14
neverblueproftpd help: can someone link me to their folder shared portion of the .conf? I want to see how someone else setup the ~ folder shares.23:14
zvacetGatunoRox:  see http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html23:14
GatunoRoxthx23:15
Phoenix_Silverlinux from scratch GatunoRox23:15
zvacetGatunoRox:  yw  :)23:15
GatunoRox2nd: ifI install Ubuntu on an USB HDD, Full installation, with grub installed on the external hdd, can I boot it from another computer other than the one I used to install?23:16
Gulfstreamis it worth encrypting the hard drive? will it slow it down?23:16
Phoenix_Silverof course GatunoRox23:16
meganerdGatunoRox: yes23:16
erUSULGulfstream: yes23:17
erUSULGulfstream: encryption is cpu intensive23:17
tim167hi, i had to restart pulseaudio, but i don't get my audio back, what can i do ?23:17
GatunoRoxthen, how can I set the different hardware settings ?23:17
hiexpo? did ubuntu 10.10 switchto extlinux ?23:17
GatunoRoxcan I make hardware profiles?23:17
Gulfstreamthanks erUSUL23:17
meganerdGatunoRox: most of it should get autodetected23:17
Phoenix_Silverusually it's automatic GatunoRox23:18
habananyubunru 11.04  beta< where is the irc?23:18
habananythe address ?23:18
GatunoRoxwhat about proprietary drivers? lile GPU23:18
bazhanghabanany, #ubuntu+123:18
erUSULGulfstream: the 2nd question answer's is yes. you can boot your external install in different computers23:18
hwildeanybody have insight with nvidia quadro 600?  nvidia-xconfig bricks the system.  I've tried installing all of the drivers.  nvidia-settings says it's not in use, but it is.23:18
habananythankssss23:18
mr_orange_Is there a file in Ubuntu 10.10 netbook where the firewall configurations are kept?23:18
meganerdGatunoRox: you will get more ethernet devices (eg. eth1 eth2) as it remembers the MAC addresses of all the cards that it sees, but it should still work.  I have 10.10 on a USB hard drive that I carry with me23:18
bazhangmr_orange_, you mean iptables?23:18
Phoenix_Silversame thing here in a usb stick23:19
mr_orange_bazhang, i mean a file where I can edit my firewall settings23:19
gilles__where can i go to post a pic about my issue  ?23:19
mickster04!paste23:19
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:19
GatunoRoxstrangely, when I tried too boot on my desktop, I got to the grub screen np, and when I selected Ubuntu it went black screen forever23:19
MK`Is there a non-pain-in-the-ass way to get Ubuntu to hibernate?23:20
neverbluewhen running an FTP server, what ports are required? just 21 or both 21 and 22 ?23:20
krylhi23:20
krylI have a problem with ubuntu (maverick) I don't understand why since last upgrade I can't mount ntfs partition and I have no error logs ! that's curious ! do u have any return ?23:21
hachreneverblue: just 21, 22 is ssh...23:21
mouseIs there a way to change the default login sound without moving/changing the desktop-login.ogg file?23:21
meganerdneverblue: 20 and 2123:21
neverbluei meant, 20-2123:21
StarminnMK`: Power menu->hibernate?23:21
Phoenix_Silver20 and 2123:21
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meganerdneverblue: 22 is for ssh, scp, and sftp (not to be confused with ftps)23:21
neverblueso 20 -needs- to be open ?23:22
hachreno23:22
hachrenot imo23:22
hachreonly 2123:22
neverbluei connect, but then I am dropped immediately23:22
neverblueFTP client quotes PORT command failed23:22
mr_orange_Is there a file where I can edit my firewall settings for Ubuntu 10.10 netbook?23:22
GatunoRoxanyway23:22
neverblueso the communication server -> client seems to fail23:22
meganerdneverblue: yes, 20 should be open23:22
Starminn!firewall | mr_orange_23:23
ubottumr_orange_: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.23:23
neverbluePORT assigns the communication port23:23
yasmin_*ubuntu*23:23
terry_mr_orange_: Have you created a firewall?23:23
meganerdneverblue: ideally you would not use ftp at all.23:23
slakcphilhttp://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-fall-2008/video-lectures/lecture-2/23:23
slakcphilthis stuff is awesome!23:23
GatunoRoxI quit using my 16GB usb stick when trying to boot, it took as long as 10 boots and it started corrupting itself23:23
terry_mr_orange_: Or are you wanting to...?23:24
neverblueugh23:24
Starminnslakcphil: And is also off-topic. Please continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic23:24
neverbluenot working23:24
mr_orange_terry_ wanting too23:24
slakcphil<Starminn> sorry man23:24
neverbluerestarting the Server, this doesn't seem to be working23:24
terry_mr_orange_: use ufw or install firestarter23:24
trismmouse: the login sound is played by the GNOME Login Sound line in Startup Applications, so just replace the arguments to canberra-gtk-play with -f /path/to/file/to/play23:24
macois there a way to make grub 2 use vi-style commands like grub 1 did? or can it only do nano-style?23:24
Starminnslakcphil: No problem.23:24
mr_orange_terry_ ok thank you23:24
neverbluemeganerd, FTP has it purposes23:25
eshannonhello everyone I need a little help with 2 new drives I installed. I used gparted to create partitions and format. I can access them but not able to add files or create folders23:25
terry_mr_orange_: ufw should be already installed.23:25
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fennucciugh my toshiba is being the lame, I should just uninstal windows and put ubuntu on23:25
fennuccithe live cd wont boot for some reason23:25
mousetrism, Does that work with non-.ogg files?23:25
terry_eshannon: How are they mounted? mount23:25
fennucciI dont know if its a problem with my laptop or something else23:25
mr_orange_terry_ do i need to enable it23:25
terry_mr_orange_: Yes23:25
trismmouse: I don't know, you'd have to test it23:26
terry_mr_orange_: ...only if you want to, or find some need for it.23:26
mousetrism, Okay thank you.  That helps a lot.23:26
mr_orange_terry_ is there a way to view the default settings23:26
eshannonterry_ they mounted themselves. I can see them under places23:26
terry_mr_orange_: There is nothing blocked by default, but yes...  iptables -L23:26
pooltablehelp looking for a way to convert ccd img sub to iso ?23:26
zvacet!md5sum | fennucci23:26
ubottufennucci: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows23:26
terry_eshannon: mount | pastebinit23:26
eshannonterry_ I do see a reference for media23:27
bercik_is Schockwave plugin availble for Linux?23:27
jessdog9001Hello, I have a fairly serious issue with Ubuntu 10.10. I used the alternate CD to do a normal installation, and on first boot I get a completely blank screen that just stays blank. After some poking around, I got it to boot using the boot parameters "single nomodeset".23:27
MK`Hehe wow. I asked: "MK`> Is there a non-pain-in-the-ass way to get Ubuntu to hibernate?", then closed my screen for a second after locking it, and when I reopened it the screen did not reenable. I had to cut power.23:27
MK`So it's not just hibernation that's broken for me :/23:27
Phoenix_Silverfennucci:  have you tried F6 ? safe graphics mode ?23:27
hwildeanybody have insight with nvidia quadro 600?  nvidia-xconfig bricks the system.  I've tried installing all of the drivers.  nvidia-settings says it's not in use, but it is.23:27
terry_eshannon: mount | pastebinit  #and send us the resulting URL.23:27
jessdog9001But then I have no graphical acceleration. The problem appears to be related to my graphics card: Radeon 9600.23:27
jessdog9001I am currently running Ubuntu 10.10, but with VESA driver which really stinks.23:28
pooltablehelp looking for a way to convert ccd img sub to iso ?23:28
SomelauwHi, I tried installing cake. So I downloaded cake then typed sudo ln -s bin/cake /bin/cake and then I tried typing "cake", but it says cake is not installed23:28
fennuccif6? nope, Phoenix_Silver my toshiba boots so fast, that I dont even get the initial screen where it says press escp for setup and what not23:28
GatunoRoxanyone knows if there's a known reason why after grub, boot would stall at black screen?23:28
SomelauwWhat did I do wrong probably?23:28
fennucciI've been reading lots of bad things on the buntu forms Phoenix_Silver about people having lots of trouble dual bopoting with toshiba laptops23:28
lmojzisHi all... I have weird problem. I press volume up on my Gigabyte i1520M and it "stucks" even if it's not pressed... Instead of "Vol+" it does "Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+" until swiched to another TTY and returned to TTY 7... Do you know how to solve it?23:28
fennucciHow does a virtual box work?23:28
terry_eshannon: What filesystem is on them?  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL.23:28
zvacetjessdog9001: did you tried to install driver from system>additional hardware drivers23:28
jessdog9001GatunoRox: sounds like the problem I'm having.23:29
fennucciI have 8gb of ram on my toshiba maybe I should just use a virtual box instead of dual booting23:29
yagooGatunoRox, grub wasnt installed.. otherwise u'd see the 'Grub' characters showing stage1 loading23:29
SomelauwSince everythin in /bin can be launched by typing it, can't it?23:29
terry_fennucci: Like a charm....23:29
yagooGatunoRox, or u installed grub the wrong location23:29
jessdog9001zvacet: No proprietary drivers are available for my card (too old), so it has to use the open source drivers. But they stopped working with 10.1023:29
mickster04fennucci: this isn't really the place to be asking for help with virtual box, we can help with ubuntu specific problems23:29
bercik_is Schockwave plugin available for Linux?23:29
heslamhey guys. not sure if this is the right place. i'm having problems setting up my network (using ubuntu on my desktop - relevent enough? :P) and my gateway is is 192.168.0.1 and it's giving my PC an internal IP of 192.168.0.100. they're not the same, right? is 192.168.0.1 shorthand for 192.168.0.001 or 192.168.0.100?23:29
eshannonhttp://pastebin.com/zXFFh9uC23:30
Logan_!shockwave | bercik_23:30
ubottubercik_: shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave23:30
jessdog9001GatunoRox: what kind of graphics card do you have?23:30
lmojzisHi all... I have weird problem. I press volume up on my Gigabyte i1520M and it "stucks" even if it's not pressed... Instead of "Vol+" it does "Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+Vol+" until swiched to another TTY and returned to TTY 7... Do you know how to solve it? (BUMPing)23:30
neverbluestill, no FTP connection23:30
zvacetfennucci: if you trying to install ubuntu in vbox it should work23:30
bercik_Logan_: thanks23:30
Logan_bercik_: you're welcome23:30
nit-witGatunoRox, can you run this script and pastebin it.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/23:30
neverbluei thought the proftpd config would be straightforward O_o23:30
yagooSomelauw, /bin is by default in $PATH.. that ln command makes no sense23:30
marcsterdoes anyone else have the problem with a --natty.list being created in sources.list.d ? Causes 404 errors on updates23:30
zvacetjessdog9001: I don´t know maybe try to install radeon driver from synaptic23:31
gregLjessdog9001, Try System administration and additional drivers and see if there is a more current driver..23:31
terry_eshannon: What filesystem is on them?  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL.23:31
yagooSomelauw, you don't need to make symlinks in /usr/local/bin .. u can make sure ~/bin is in PATH if this is what u want23:31
zvacet!natty | marcster23:31
ubottumarcster: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems.23:31
terry_eshannon: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL.23:31
pooltablelook a way to convert to standard iso?23:32
KamiKazeKenjiDoes anyone know how to edit totem's keyboard shortcuts?23:32
Logan_heslam: you may get more help in ##networking23:32
eshannonhttp://pastebin.com/Xc84WReC23:32
jessdog9001gregL: just tried that, no drivers are available. My card is too old to use the ATI proprietary driver23:32
yagoolmojzis, try another keyboard..23:32
neverbluecan someone help with proftpd setup, the #proftpd channel is dead ?23:32
marcsterubottu: ok - sorry about that. Thanks for the redirect23:32
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:32
heslamLogan_: thanks :) i'll hop on over there23:32
Phoenix_Silverlol23:32
Logan_!sorry | marcster23:32
ubottumarcster: It's ok, I am only a bot so I cannot stay mad at you. For apologising to humans though, take a read of http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2009/07/20/on-apologies/23:32
jessdog9001zvacet: Which radeon driver were you thinking of?23:32
lmojzisyagoo: This is built in KB in Gygabyte i1520M23:33
DroidDestroyeris ubuntu supporting the new development of a XOrg Replacement?23:33
SomelauwI want to install a manually downloaded program and its instruction was to symlink a file to the path.23:33
Phoenix_Silveryes Somelauw23:33
mr_orange_If I enable logging on ufw does that information get saved somewhere?23:34
neverbluemy user auths, but then I get diconnected immediately, client gives the error: "Apr 04 22:28:55 ubuntu proftpd[1840] ubuntu (mail.customhouse.com[64.251.77.169]): FTP session closed."23:34
neverblue"PORT command failed Error loading directory..."23:34
jessdog9001The strangest thing is that the video drivers work perfectly in the latest Linux Mint (based on 10.10). What on earth is Mint doing differently that makes my video work?23:34
detrix42hi. how do I take an .iso of a bootable cd and make it a bootable SD?23:34
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neverbluethe second post is the actual error, the first "" was a mistake23:34
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zvacetjessdog9001: find in system>synaptic >xserver-xorg-video-radeon and install it and see if it works for you23:35
yagoolmojzis, sometimes bios updates patch issues related to ps/2..23:35
yagoolmojzis, did u try updating the bios?23:35
mickster04detrix42: unetbootin23:35
jessdog9001zvacet: Oh, yeah I've already tried that one. It gives me the nasty black screen.23:35
DroidDestroyerwhat's the release date for ubuntu 11.04?23:35
detrix42mickster04: thankx23:35
MK`April 28 I think23:35
Pici!natty | DroidDestroyer23:36
ubottuDroidDestroyer: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems.23:36
mickster04!11.0423:36
terry_eshannon:  Looks like 3ea dirves?  2 are 20g and one is 15g  Right?23:36
zvacetjessdog9001: sorry that is all I can think off23:36
yagoodetrix42, maybe a related usb-boot howto document can be applied to sd23:36
DroidDestroyercool :)23:36
jessdog9001zvacet: thanks for the help anyway23:36
Phoenix_Silverunetbootin23:36
mr_orange_If I enable logging on ufw does that information get saved somewhere?23:36
jessdog9001zvacet: I am now considering which distro to try next since Ubuntu isn't working out23:36
zvacetjessdog9001: well, I was not much of help23:36
yagooDroidDestroyer, 10.10 just cameout.. so i'm guessing like in 6 months23:36
terry_eshannon: They are plugged in via USB adapters / cables?23:36
xanguadetrix42: try unetbootin, i supose it works the same way usb boot23:37
GatunoRoxnit-wit: http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/iqwpgetMaz23:37
lmojzis!ping23:37
ubottuHere I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to respond to factoid requests. Call that job satisfaction? Because I don't.23:37
zvacetjessdog9001: stick with mint if that works for you23:37
Phoenix_Silveryes detrix42 unetbootin works fine23:37
Mamo_yamm23:37
TimRmr_orange_, yes, in /var/log/ufw.log23:37
eshannonno they are all plugged insata and the 2 I am looking for are 2 TB23:37
MK`when my laptop is plugged in and I click to look at the battery percentage, it says "Estimating..." but never updates. How can I fix this?23:37
MK`the moment the battery begins discharging it is fixed23:37
jessdog9001zvacet: well, I left Mint because I disliked many things. and it was too slow on my hardware. Ubuntu seems faster, even without the graphic acceleration, but then other things don't work23:37
KamiKazeKenjiDoes anyone know how to edit totem's config?23:38
mickster04MK`: well if you are plugged in it won't work out how lon gis left because it will be infinite as long as the power supply is good?23:38
mr_orange_TimR what kind of information will that show me exactly?23:38
eshannonterry_ I Have 1.5 TB, 400Gig, 2 2 TB drives on this Box plugged in sata23:38
nit-witGatunoRox, hold on I see the paste23:38
yagooMK`, it sounds more like a problem with the gui app.. i bet the battery starts charging even if the gui icon doesnt imply it is23:38
Jon--Does ubuntu handle batteries well? If I leave a lithium ion battery at 100% with the AC adepter plugged in, am I losing charge cycles or is it smart enough to then use pure AC power?23:38
MK`Maybe. I wanted to know how close it is to being full. The icon tells me when it's full, heh23:39
TimRmr_orange_, as far as I can tell, it shows you what ufw has blocked23:39
MK`just not the dialog23:39
mickster04Jon--: thats a physical thing, nothing to do with the OS usually23:39
yagooJon--, it's a hardware thing..23:39
sionehello, an external monitor is plugued into my laptop, when I start my laptop when the lid is closed, with ubuntu, something detect automaticly that the lid is closed, then it choose the external monitor as a principal screen... but not with archlinux23:39
sionesomeone knows something about that ?23:39
lmojzis!ping23:39
ubottuHere I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to respond to factoid requests. Call that job satisfaction? Because I don't.23:39
Jon--The acpi drivers don't impact this?23:39
StarminnKamiKazeKenji: A 2-second Google search revealed the location of the files: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305738 if that's what you're looking for (which iirc is what you asked about earlier)23:39
mickster04MK`: the dialog shows you how much time is left roughly23:39
MK`Ah.23:39
Starminnlmojzis: Stop that.23:39
MK`I see.23:39
mr_orange_TimR, does it show ip address and port and type of packet?23:39
Jon--I asked because I burned through my last battery fast..23:40
sionewhat can detect if the lid if closed before the boot, then choosing the external monitor as a principal monitor on ubuntu ?23:40
sioneis*23:40
yagooJon--, acpi helps Oses what is in the devicetree23:40
mickster04Jon--: yeah no, it is a hardware thing23:40
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nit-witGatunoRox, do you have the sdb hd dfirst to be read in the bios23:40
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GatunoRoxyep23:40
TimRmr_orange_, it sure does, just try looking at the file, it is rather neatly formatted23:40
KamiKazeKenjiThank you, Starminn, but gconf does not provide what I am looking for.23:40
stolen_nickexit23:40
mickster04sione: so nothing is wrong with ubuntu?23:40
Phoenix_Silveryou can use reiserfs with hdd > 2 teras23:40
GatunoRoxnumber 1 priority, you mean23:40
yagooJon--, if u dont have powerthrottling for ur pc, or hd then ur laptop will run at full speed23:41
mr_orange_TimR thank you, I haven't enable it yet23:41
TimRI see23:41
DrekAlotsDoes pptp in ubuntu require pppd?23:41
Jon--yagoo, That wasn't my question, but thanks ;)23:41
KamiKazeKenjiWhat I am trying to do is change how much seconds it jumps when I press the arrow keys.23:41
neverblueproftpd issue, can someone please help, my clients gets this error: "PORT command failed" ?23:41
nit-witGatunoRox, boot a live cd and reload grub to the mbr with this link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202  the script loks good so I think grub2 just got borked in there somewhere23:42
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pooltablehelp need a way to convert to iso?23:42
yagooJon--, sometimes u need to type a modprobe.. what laptop is this?23:42
lmojzisyagoo: In Windows it works nice... Bios should be latest (the only one released)23:42
yagooneverblue, ftp takes two ports23:42
Phoenix_Silver20 and 21 neverblue23:42
yagoolmojzis, is this for X or for console?23:43
Slideyive got an ion330, bought a new hard disk (same model as previous one), and installed latest ubuntu (previously had 9.smth), and now i seem to be getting random network drop outs where its fine, then i get connection reset by peer, and then when i try and ssh (or indeed any other protocol it seems) back in its giving connection refused23:43
Slideyanyone seen that?23:43
dbdii407Why doesn't ubuntu have Python 2.7.1?23:43
lmojzisyagoo: somebody from ubuntu-cz adviced patching /lib/udev/rules.d/95-keyboard-force-release.rules... How to do it?23:43
lmojzisdmidecode model is i1520M23:43
terry_eshannon: fsck -N /dev/sdb23:43
terry_eshannon: And tell us what it says23:43
yagoolmojzis, the patch -p1 command ?23:44
yagoolmojzis, make a backup of course23:44
Slideyi can ping the interface, but i get connection refused when trying to connect23:44
yagoolmojzis, what about the bios version?23:44
eshannonterry_ [/sbin/fsck.ext2 (1) -- /dev/sdb] fsck.ext2 /dev/sdb23:44
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Somelauwyagoo, I put everything in ~/bin for the ease instead of making symlinks23:44
fxfitzHello! I just installed 10.10 and I am noticing that firefox is extremely slow with Javascript/AJAX. Has anyone else experienced this?23:45
terry_eshannon: Also fsck -N /dev/sdd  and fsck -N /dev/sdc23:45
yagooSomelauw, well the "ln" command is for making symlinks..23:45
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yagooSomelauw, you mentioned u were using the ln command no tme23:45
mr_orange_TimR, do you know what the LEN is in the ufw.log file is?23:45
lmojzisStarminn: What?23:45
eshannonterry_ [/sbin/fsck.ext2 (1) -- /dev/sdd] fsck.ext2 /dev/sdd23:46
TimRmr_orange_, I would assume it is the size of the packet23:46
yagoolmojzis, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3363#bios < u should be able to update the bios to 009 from windows easily23:46
eshannonterry_ [/sbin/fsck.ext2 (1) -- /dev/sdc] fsck.ext2 /dev/sdc23:46
mickster04pooltable: from what? and for what purpose and what23:46
kdubinternet23:46
pooltablei got it23:47
mr_orange_TimR, do you know if its in KB MB or just B23:47
lmojzisyagoo: look at that file... I just need to add line like this:23:47
pooltableto run a game on wii23:47
lmojzis+ENV{DMI_VENDOR}=="Dell Inc.", ATTR{[dmi/id]product_name}=="Studio 1557", RUN+="keyboard-force-release.sh $devpath dell-studio-1557"23:47
lmojzisbut with my model23:47
SomelauwI think that when using ln the paths need to be absolute whereas I was symlinking a relative path.23:47
pooltableuse acetoneiso23:47
mouseI have a concern with the linux/unix file system.  With how file naming works and new software coming out everyday isn't it just a matter of time before one program installs it's files over another's and messes things up?  For example two programs writing different executables to the same location with the same file name?  That's obviously a rookie mistake but isn't that cause for concern?23:47
yagoolmojzis, can u paste the source document to this site? (just the url)23:47
terry_eshannon: Looks like sdd1 is mounted rw /dev/sdd1 on /media/2tb disk2 type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks), and so is sdb /dev/sdb1 on /media/232dd3b4-f56b-4007-ac29-3f9ca1fbc60d type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks), sdc doesn't seem to be mounted.  So, you tell me why you can not write to them.  Have  you tried?23:47
Jessica632errr... i just loaded ubuntu 10.??.  Do I need VNC4SERVER or is there already a VNC server built in?  Gnome remote desktop server?23:48
mouseThat was longer than I thought it would be.23:48
Somelauwyagoo: I think that when using ln the paths need to be absolute whereas I was symlinking a relative path.23:48
mickster04mouse: how likely is that?23:48
PatrickC_Ubuntuhow do i install vbox on 11.04?23:48
TimRmr_orange_, that would be in bytes23:48
yagoolmojzis, i worded that badly.. just the url u can paste.. so i can see what that udev stuff is23:48
PatrickC_Ubuntuis it supported yet?23:48
pooltablewhere in 11.4?23:48
Phoenix_Silverone thing i never found in ubuntu in which files do i have to put interface bridges ?23:48
pooltablelikw to try slao23:48
mickster04mouse: that is just as likely in windows?23:48
kdubmouse: the package manager can detect that, and its up to the package maintainers to resolve anything like that23:48
pooltablealso23:48
SomelauwSo the symlink was actually invalid.23:48
mr_orange_TimR ok thank you for your help23:48
PatrickC_Ubuntupooltable: what do u mean?23:48
kdubplus, like mickster04 said, its unlikely23:48
mickster04!who pooltable23:48
Jordan_Umouse: There are already pieces of software that have the same name normally but whose binary has been renamed when they were packaged for Debian/Ubuntu to avoid conflict.23:48
mickster04!who | pooltable23:48
ubottupooltable: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:48
terry_eshannon: As we can see on: http://pastebin.com/zXFFh9uC  they are mounted rw (read/write), so I don't see why you can not write to them.23:48
pooltablewhere is 11.4  ?23:49
Gaming4JCAnyone mind helping me with setting up stunnel4? I just installed it, edited the stunnel.conf and set it uncommented out the clien=1. It's now giving me error... SSL tunnels disabled, see /etc/default/stunnel423:49
neverblueyagoo,Phoenix: ports are open, 20and21 and a range 41000-4110023:49
mickster04!11.0423:49
ubottuNatty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems.23:49
Picipooltable: #ubuntu+123:49
PatrickC_Ubuntuthanks23:49
Jordan_Umouse: That's the nice thing about having one repository managed by a single pseudo organization to be sure things play nice together.23:49
dmachinehi23:49
neverblueyagoo, Phoenix: any other ideas ?23:49
pooltablepici not beta23:49
yagooneverblue, the NAT server needs to allow it.. problem is the nat server23:49
Picipooltable: Yes it is.23:49
lmojzisyagoo: It was guy from #ubuntu-cz who told be this...23:49
neverblueyagoo, could you explain further ?23:49
Phoenix_Silvergroup problem neverblue ?23:50
lmojzis*me23:50
pooltablepici no sorry i looking for final version23:50
Picipooltable: It will be out on April 28th.23:50
mouseJordan_U, Ah I didn't think of that.  Still though that could end up being an awful large workload if it had to be done manually.23:50
pooltablepici ok thanks23:50
neverbluePhoenix_Silver: i can connect, but it drops the connection immediately. I am not able to isolate what the issue is exactly. How could I -see- it that is the issue ?23:50
pooltablepici and you run beta in VB ?23:50
Jessica632does gnome remote desktop use or need vnc4server?  Is it it's own VNC server?23:50
Picipooltable: I believe so23:51
Phoenix_Silverhave you seen in the logs neverblue ?23:51
mohamed-ragabi have an error "sudo apt-get -t testing install php5=5.2.14" get "E: Version '5.2.14' for 'php5' was not found"23:51
red2kicJessica632: vino (name of VNC server for Gnome Desktop)23:51
neverbluePhoenix_Silver: seen what ?23:51
MK`Hm, even after I restart, looking at / properties says the disk has 128 TB on it. Is this a (known) bug?23:51
pooltablepici is the release always at the end ot the month i thought 10.10 was in the start of the month ?23:52
yagoolmojzis, do u get "reset" in dmesg ?, try hitting the key.. then after in another tty do "dmesg" .. see if anything "reset" is related to the keyboard23:52
Jessica632red2kic, so, is having vnc4server running as a process just redundant?23:52
PatrickC_Ubuntusorry, i have another question...23:52
Picipooltable: Usually, 10.10 was special, they wanted to do 10.10.1023:52
gary_inNYCis there a way to block IM spam in Empathy?23:52
eshannonterry_ yes I have tried if I right click to create a folder the option is greyed out. I tried to copy a file over and says error23:52
PatrickC_Ubuntuhow do i install a tar.gz?23:52
pooltablepici i see23:52
Jordan_Umouse: It's probably one of the least common and easier to solve problems with integration.23:52
red2kicJessica632: I'm not sure. I don't use VNC myself but I knew vino/vinagre is VNC packages for Gnome.23:52
PatrickC_Ubuntuim use to windows....23:52
Phoenix_Silvershould be written in the logs neverblue the error sorry bu23:52
MK`.tar.gz is an archive, like .zip23:52
Phoenix_Silvershould be written in the logs neverblue the error sorry but i don't use proftpd23:52
xangua!compile | PatrickC_Ubuntu23:52
lmojzisyagoo: let us go PM, this is jungle...23:52
ubottuPatrickC_Ubuntu: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)23:52
terry_eshannon: What error?  (What does it say?)23:52
gary_inNYCI want to block every IM except those coming from my contact list in Empathy.  Can this be done?23:52
Jessica632red, tyvm23:53
dwarderhow do i change default editor23:53
dwardersudo update-alternatives –config editor23:53
dwarderdoesnt seem to work23:53
mouseJordan_U, Now I'm curious.  What's the most common?23:53
neverbluePhoenix_Silver: there is no error in the logs, as the user connects23:53
pooltablepici what the channel for beta again ?23:53
Picipooltable: #ubuntu+123:53
red2kicdwarder: You copied and pasted. Try --config23:53
xanguagary_inNYC: pidgin can with privacy please plugin23:53
neverbluePhoenix_Silver: the error is only displayed to the client23:53
Logan_!pm | lmojzis23:53
ubottulmojzis: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.23:53
dwarderred2kic: same23:53
Phoenix_Silverand what is the error in the client ? neverblue23:53
dwarderred2kic: update-alternatives: error: unknown argument `–-config'23:54
gary_inNYCxangua: ic, thx23:54
lmojzisLogan But this is very hard to read...23:54
red2kicdwarder: My usual method (Gnome). Right-click a file and change properties.  Also, two dash, not that weird long dash.23:54
Jordan_Umouse: I don't know off hand.23:54
sioneWhen I plug an external monitor into my laptop, then start ubuntu live CD, ubuntu seems to give priority to the external monitor instead of the monitor of the laptop, why ?23:54
Gaming4JCJessica632: I don't use VNC myself, but this is the software installed on ubuntu. http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/remote-desktop.html23:54
neverbluePhoenix_Silver: i belive we are just going in circles, I post the error, to which you initially replied, it was 'PORT command failed'23:54
* Gaming4JC struggles with stunnel423:54
dwarderred2kic: i want my svn to open vim instead of nano :|23:55
pooltablepici i not sure if you can anser this i might add 2gb of ram total 4gb in my computer will i need to instal 64 bit version of ubuintu ?23:55
mouseJordan_U, Well thank you.  I've been curious about that for a little bit.  It's good to see you're still around btw.23:55
neverbluePhoenix_Silver: as you don't use proftpd, i am unsure why you are helping, if you have no idea what Ia m talking about, allow me the opportunity to discuss my issue with others23:55
navatwoHi, I'm trying to create a live usb for upgrading my desktop, but every way I've tried, its failed to boot off of it. It does not go to a prompt, but just says "Loading operating system...\nBoot Error."23:55
red2kicdwarder: Try "export EDITOR=vim"23:55
eshannonterry_ an error while copying permission denied23:56
krylI have a problem with ubuntu (maverick) I don't understand why since last upgrade I can't mount ntfs partition and I have no error logs ! that's curious ! do u have any return ?23:56
red2kicdwarder: If that worked, add that to ~/.bashrc23:56
EmuAlertThis is a kind of weird question, but what's the hexadecimal color usually used for brackets?23:56
cipher_EmuAlert: Google it :p23:56
StarminnEmuAlert: In what program? It probably varies for each one.23:56
dwarderred2kic: thanks23:56
cipher_EmuAlert: {0\color} ?23:57
terry_eshannon: Try from CLI.  i.e. touch /media/2tb/testfile23:57
cipher_\0*23:57
neverbluecan someone else help me troubleshoot proftpd, i have a PORT command failed error, i have the required ports configured in the .conf and open23:57
eshannonterry_ touch: cannot touch `/media/2tb/testfile': No such file or directory23:58
pooltableemualert hexadecimal number, using #RRGGBB format ... while the brackets on the rgb() are regular brackets.23:58
Phoenix_Silverin my idea neverblue you have to forward your passive ports in the firewall :)23:58
Phoenix_Silver40000 something neverblue23:58
neverbluePhoenix_Silver: which I have done23:58
Phoenix_Silvererf oki neverblue23:58
cipher_how can i set a directory to be +rw for any user?23:58
EmuAlertpooltable: Well I meant that when you see text  with syntax highlighting, if the brackets are colored, they're usually some shade of green23:59
neverbluecipher_: perhaps you mean all users?23:59
neverbluenot any user23:59
cipher_Indeed23:59
terry_eshannon: mount |grep 2tb23:59
eshannonterry_ I can create a folder if I use root23:59
Phoenix_Silverhave changed the mode active or passive neverblue ?23:59
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terry_eshannon: but it said "No such file or directory...23:59

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