[02:38] <sillav>  I think I have removed a package that was used by network-manager to show the current connection status. Currently, the icon showed in the notification area is a static icon of a missing icon, regardless of connection status. It still works fine, just looks ugly and isn't as useful. Here is what it looks like: http://tinypic.com/r/2s8ss61/7
[02:39] <pleia2> sillav: are you trying to make it not show up?
[02:40] <pleia2> in the panel near it right click and go to "properties" the networkmanager applet can be hidden
[02:40] <pleia2> (any of them can be by selecting in the checkbox)
[02:42] <sillav> No.. I find it quite useful. I just want it to show the status icons it used to. Just by looking at it I could see if I was connected, or not, or connecting.
[02:56] <sillav> I'll disconnect while I try something new
[06:30] <Tsagdai> Hi all, I'm having trouble finding a command that works for 10.10 to start the system without X
[06:55] <Tsagadai> no one can help with disabling X (the entire graphical desktop)?
[07:16] <Tsagadai> figured it out...
[09:44] <{C9}t00lsh3d>  have this xfwm4 folder that doesn't seem to be applying in Usr/share/themes/halcion-lime  all that seems to apply is the gtk-2.0 any ideas ?
[09:44] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I*
[10:22] <xubuntu851> Hi
[10:22] <xubuntu851> I'm switching to Xubuntu, because Ubuntu whill ship with Unity in 11..10
[10:22] <knome> hey
[10:38] <Ciemon_> soo xfce-panel is definitely hosed in Natty right now, it's the same on two seperate machines.
[10:41] <ochosi> Ciemon_: that's the side-effect of fixing a bug unfortunately, wipe/reset the panel config and restart the panel
[10:41] <Ciemon_> ochosi: tried and it's still hosed
[10:41] <ochosi> what you're describing only applies to existing installs btw, not to new installs after the bugfix
[10:42] <ochosi> Ciemon_: could you elaborate a bit, what do you mean by "hosed"?
[10:42] <Ciemon_> I have nothing in ~/.config/xfce4/panel so there's nothing to wipe
[10:43] <Ciemon_> sure, there are no panels showing, although xfce4-panel is running
[10:43] <ochosi> Ciemon_: log out, then "rm -f
[10:43] <ochosi> $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml" in a vt, then  log back in
[10:44] <ochosi> Ciemon_: this will restore the default config
[10:44] <Ciemon_> brb
[10:47] <Ciemon_> ochosi: you're a star, thank you
[10:47] <ochosi> Ciemon_: no problem ;)
[10:47] <Ciemon_> !panels
[10:48] <ochosi> this item should really be updated btw...
[10:48] <Ciemon_> yeah, I just wanted to make sure that I hadn't misread that page
[10:48] <ochosi> the blog-post on how to set a bg-image doesn't apply anymore to the 4.8 panel
[10:48] <knome> awwh
[10:49] <knome> !panels-#xubuntu is Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels
[10:49] <knome> äesch
[11:05] <knome> !panels
[11:05] <knome> ochosi, ^
[11:06] <ochosi> nice, thanks :)
[12:35] <mark761> Have you chaps heard the news about 11.10?
[12:35] <mark761> Ubuntu 11.10
[12:35] <knome> mark761, ?
[12:36] <mark761> They're dropping trad Gnome and having Unity as the exclusive Ubuntu desktop from Oneiric onwards
[12:36] <knome> yes?
[12:36] <mark761> Yep
[12:36] <knome> and? :)
[12:37] <mark761> Opportunity for Xubuntu/Sfce, perhaps?
[12:37] <mark761> Not everyone will want to switch to Unity
[12:37] <mark761> Xfce
[12:37] <mark761> Damn  it
[12:38] <knome> probably, but that doesn't mean we'll start running after the old gnome users
[12:38] <mark761> I'm sure you won't need to
[12:38] <knome> i suppose so yeah
[12:38] <mark761> Didn't Gnome pick up a lot of new users from KDE when that moved to 4.0?
[12:38] <knome> though i think a few can switch to completely other distros as well, and that's fine as well
[12:39] <mark761> Yeah
[12:39] <knome> i think, and xfce/xubuntu too with the broken kubuntu 8.04
[12:40] <knome> hungry. bbl :)
[13:33] <Core> hello! can anyone help me with a problem related to tightvnc?
[14:23] <l4ng1t> hi all
[14:23] <l4ng1t> how to mount iso file by right click in xubuntu?
[14:23] <l4ng1t> please help.. :(
[14:24] <l4ng1t> i can do easily in ubuntu but not in xubuntu
[14:25] <Sysi> if you can't do it you propably just can't, but i think there's separate program(s)
[14:26] <bazhang> what kind of iso
[14:26] <l4ng1t> CD and DVD file
[14:26] <l4ng1t> tutorial file
[14:27] <bazhang> vlc
[14:27] <l4ng1t> vlc multimedia player?
[14:27] <bazhang> yes
[14:28] <l4ng1t> let me try
[14:28] <bazhang> ok
[14:29] <l4ng1t> No suitable decoder module:
[14:29] <l4ng1t> VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. :D
[14:30] <bazhang> undf
[14:30] <l4ng1t> i just wondering when i use ubuntu.. i just did right click and suddenly that iso mount auto
[14:31] <bazhang> l4ng1t, got the w32codecs from medibuntu.org installed?
[14:32] <ochosi> l4ng1t: what kind of format is the stuff on the iso? tutorial isn't really a file-type, is it?
[14:33] <l4ng1t> bazhang: yes.. i have
[14:34] <bazhang> l4ng1t, why not rip it then
[14:34] <bazhang> or try gmountiso
[14:34] <bazhang> !info gmountiso
[14:34] <l4ng1t> ochosi: my video tutorial.. mostly from trainsignal
[14:34] <ochosi> l4ng1t: right, but what file-format is it?
[14:34] <bazhang> try with ogmrip
[14:36] <l4ng1t> ochosi: what you mean file forman?? Train Signal - ICND2.iso <= like this?
[14:37] <ochosi> l4ng1t: no, the stuff that is contained by the iso, if it's a video, is it .avi, .mov, ..?
[14:37] <bazhang> undf
[14:38] <ochosi> right, i didn't know that video format
[14:38] <l4ng1t> well.. undf file.. but i prefer to have virtual CD
[14:38] <l4ng1t> bazhang: thx.. its working with gmountiso :D
[14:38] <ochosi> i thought it simply means it's an "undefined format" because vlc couldn't detect the real format
[14:38] <bazhang> what encodes in undf?
[14:39] <bazhang> its an audio codec btw
[15:58] <knome> sigue, you seem to be having some connectivity issues. can you try to fix them?
[15:59] <knome> sigue, you seem to be having some connectivity issues. can you try to fix them?
[16:41] <nicofs> What was the Natty-related beta channel? i always forget...
[16:41] <knome> nicofs, #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <knome> sigue, please do something about your connection or i'll have to banforward you until it's fixed
[16:42] <nicofs> knome, thanks... i found myself alone in #ubuntu-1 - close...
[16:56] <charlie-tca> knome: just as soon have anyone with an IP such as that banned from here. If they are serious about needing help, they would not want to give that message
[17:04] <IdleOne> knome: +b *!*@stole.ur.cc-number.info$##fix_your_connection
[17:04] <IdleOne> if you want them to stop join/pinging out
[17:04] <IdleOne> fix the new ban
[17:04] <IdleOne> oh
[17:04] <IdleOne> never mind
[17:09] <knome> IdleOne, i suppose the ident is enough really :)
[17:09] <knome> IdleOne, it's just to ##fix_your_connection anyway
[17:09] <IdleOne> your first ban failed because it was to specific to nick!ident@host
[17:10] <IdleOne> but yeah since it is only for a redirect :)
[17:10] <knome> IdleOne, yup, i noticed that, but before that, his nick didn't change
[17:10] <knome> well at least not every time. my bad ;)
[17:11] <IdleOne> knome: yeah if when the client tried to rejoin while the server still thought the primary was in use
[17:11] <IdleOne> it will change
[17:11] <knome> yep
[17:12] <knome> i know, i still have traumas of having to use knome_ for some seconds! :(
[17:12] <IdleOne> haha
[17:19] <IdleOne> seems to be stabilized now
[17:20] <knome> for how many seconds? :)
[17:20] <IdleOne> perhaps remove the forward if it happens again reset. Been 18 minutes now
[17:21] <knome> yeah, sounds sensible
[17:24] <canchis> hi where is installed the apps like chromium cuz i want to make a new shortcut to the top bar
[17:24] <charlie-tca> Chromium does not come pre-installed in Xubuntu
[17:25] <charlie-tca> You can install it using Software Center or Synaptic Package Manager
[17:26] <Sysi> just command is enough, chromium is iirc chromium-browser
[17:26] <IdleOne> Sysi: what do you mean by "just command is enough"?
[17:27]  * charlie-tca thinks Sysi is right
[17:27] <canchis> charlie-tca,   tnks i already  install it but i want to make a simple shortcut on the top bar like firefox
[17:27] <charlie-tca> IdleOne: no path needed
[17:27] <Sysi> no need to have entire path to /usr/bin/program
[17:27] <IdleOne> oh
[17:27] <IdleOne> ok I get it
[17:27] <charlie-tca> canchis: then just add chromium-browser as the program
[17:27] <charlie-tca> You don't need the stuff in front of it
[17:28] <charlie-tca> If you really want all that, it is usually found in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[17:28] <knome> canchis, right-click the panel and select "add new items" and launcher from the dialog... then add 'chromium-browser' as the command
[17:35] <canchis> knome,  i open tht place untill add new item and launcer but i cant find where to add the chomium is only " name, desription, icon, comand, and home, and on the left place is new ite and a plus to add an item and ive try to find on the command line and even typing chromium and chromium-browser but didint work pls help me litle bit more im new wit linux
[17:35] <knome> canchis, on the command-input box, you should type chromium-browser. is that not working?
[17:37] <charlie-tca> How was it installed?
[17:37] <canchis> is not working
[17:37] <canchis> i install it in the ubuntu software
[17:38] <canchis> and is working by the aplication menu
[17:43] <charlie-tca> go to /usr/share/applications and see if it is there, you can open the file by right-clicking and picking "open with... mousepad"
[17:43] <charlie-tca> It will have all the information that is used for the menu
[17:46] <canchis> there is only kde and kde4 and screensavers
[17:46] <canchis> other place?
[17:47] <IdleOne> I don't use xubuntu but can't he just right click the menu item and add to panel?
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Doesn't work until Natty, AFAIK
[17:48] <IdleOne> in ubuntu (gnome) it does
[17:48] <knome> not in xfce
[17:48] <IdleOne> ah k
[17:48] <mark76> Drag and drop works in 4.8
[17:49] <charlie-tca> However, if only kde is in /usr/share/applications, I don't know where the menu files are.
[17:50] <charlie-tca> I only use Xubuntu and Ubuntu, and try not to use Kubuntu
[17:54] <Unit193> He maybe could use the locate command to find ubuntu-software-center.desktop
[17:54] <knome> no, he wants to add the launcher for chromium
[17:56] <Unit193> But that might find where all his .desktop files are (I just randomly picked one)
[18:08] <canchis> and so where the app is installed?
[18:11] <Unit193> canchis: can you open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb" hit enter, then "locate chromium-browser.desktop"
[18:17] <canchis> i foud it
[18:17] <canchis> but it say permise denied
[18:22] <canchis> tnks any way
[18:44] <lrussell> you need to load the kernal first.
[18:44] <lrussell> sery
[18:45] <lrussell> I just installed xubuntu and got this error: error: cannot allocate real mode pages. error: you need to load the kernal first. Press any key to continue..._
[18:46] <lrussell> if i press a key it just says it over and over
[18:46] <lrussell> help!
[18:47] <lrussell> ugh... #linux
[18:49] <charlie-tca> bad cd
[18:49] <charlie-tca> or bad downloiad
[18:49] <lrussell> what do you mean? cd has no errors, i checked
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Either the cd burned wrong or the download is bad.
[18:50] <charlie-tca> I know that every time I get that error, one of those is wrong
[18:50] <lrussell> the pc is from 1996, 450 mhz processor, 300 mb of ram
[18:51] <fslima0> should I install the xubuntu 11.04 beta on my laptop?
[18:51] <charlie-tca> As long as you can afford to have it broken, yes
[18:51] <fslima0> I want to get rid of archlinux to keep it simple :P
[18:51] <charlie-tca> Beta is still not stable, no matter how many blogs say otherwise
[18:51] <lrussell> ugh... this sucks. i have to wait 2 hrs for the hd to format again
[18:52] <lrussell> charlie-tca: know of any really light weight os'es good for a server, it needs to support rsync and cron jobs
[18:53] <fslima0> I know. but is it recommended since it's beta
[18:53] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu server?
[18:53] <lrussell> that isnt very lightweight
[18:53] <fslima0> ?
[18:53] <Unit193> fslima0: charlie-tca is helping lrussell
[18:53] <lrussell> yes
[18:53] <fslima0> i see
[18:53] <charlie-tca> fslima0: It is only recommended for those who can afford to be broken and know how to fix things wrhn they break
[18:54] <lrussell> if you mess things up, format hd with dban (google it) and just reinstall ur os
[18:54] <charlie-tca> fslima0: If you need the system to work everyday for production use, do NOT install an unstable release.
[18:55] <charlie-tca> lrussell: what do you mean, Ubuntu server is not lightweight? It does not use a GUI, it does not use much ram, it does not need much cpu
[18:55] <fslima0> charlie-tca are you using it right now?
[18:55] <fslima0> it's not far off from the stable version is it?
[18:55] <charlie-tca> fslima0: yes, but I also can fix most things, and have a second system side-by-side running Xubuntu 10.04
[18:55] <lrussell> it isnt gui, great. will it support tightvnc
[18:56] <lrussell> it will be my only access to the server.
[18:56] <Unit193> April 28
[18:56] <charlie-tca> fslima0: a lot of issues yet with video, and the other day panels were gone for a day or so
[18:57] <charlie-tca> lrussell: I believe it will support tightvnc, but I may be wrong.
[18:57] <lrussell> cmd install: apt-get install tightvncserver
[18:58] <charlie-tca> You can install any app with that command, that doesn't mean they work
[18:58] <lrussell> ok
[18:58] <lrussell> so xubuntu cd is corrupted? the one i downloaded
[18:59] <charlie-tca> I can install gedit with sudo apt-get install gedit, but it won't run without a gui
[18:59] <charlie-tca> lrussell: sounds like it, unless with a two-hour format, it just lost the image
[18:59] <lrussell> what do ya mean, 2 hrs format
[19:00] <lrussell> the format cleared the hd, partitions and all
 ugh... this sucks. i have to wait 2 hrs for the hd to format again
[19:00] <lrussell> ...
[19:01] <charlie-tca> You might need the alternate image to install on that system
[19:01] <lrussell> i used an alternative image
[19:01] <lrussell> in the first place
[19:01] <lrussell> what do u think about centos
[19:02] <charlie-tca> I only use Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[19:02] <lrussell> yea
[19:02] <charlie-tca> I don't know anything about centos, really
[19:03] <lrussell> well, it is a good server os
[19:04] <charlie-tca> I installed Ubuntu Server, it works good for me
[19:04] <just_some_dude> xubuntu 10.04, xfce 4.6: i have cairo-dock loaded at start up, but every time i reboot, i get an additional instance of cairo-dock. eg - first boot=2 cairo-docks, second  boot=3 cairo-docks, third boot=4 cairo-docks... how can i fix this?
[19:04] <charlie-tca> but I don't run headless, either
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Stop saving the session each time?
[19:05] <fslima0> lol
[19:05] <just_some_dude> i've never not saved sessions
[19:05] <lrussell> #linux
[19:05] <fslima0> just_some_dude just don't restart the computer LOL
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Check for duplicate files in startup
[19:05] <just_some_dude> ha
[19:06] <just_some_dude> no duplicates
[19:06] <Sysi> fslima0: that isn't helpful
[19:06] <charlie-tca> Got to be something spawning a new file every boot
[19:06] <fslima0> j/k
[19:06] <just_some_dude> is uninstalling and reinstalling cairo-dock worthwhile?
[19:07] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I don't use it
[19:07] <just_some_dude> but you are familiar with it?
[19:07] <charlie-tca> There might be duplicates in ~/.config/autostart
[19:07] <just_some_dude> checked that too.
[19:07] <charlie-tca> I have heard of it
[19:08] <charlie-tca> Nothing in Settings Manager -> Session and Startup?
[19:08] <Sysi> just_some_dude: does it have settings to be autostarted when computer is started?
[19:08] <charlie-tca> If it is in there, uncheck it
[19:09] <just_some_dude> just the one instance is listed
[19:09] <Sysi> rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and don't save session, if doesn't work, save
[19:09] <just_some_dude> sysi, yes
[19:09] <just_some_dude> ok, i'll try it
[19:10] <just_some_dude> bbl
[19:16] <just_some_dude> sysi, didn't work, still multiple instances
[19:25] <just_some_dude> is there a difference between xubuntu and regular ubuntu with xfce installed?
[19:25] <lrussell> ???
[19:26] <just_some_dude> i have a xubuntu 10.04 cd, and a ubuntu 10.10 cd. can i install ubuntu 10.10 and just use xfce for the desktop?
[19:29] <just_some_dude> re: cairo-dock. i'm going to just try removal and reinstall and see what happens.
[19:29] <charlie-tca> just_some_dude: you can install Ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <cree> Hi
[19:33] <cree> I must say, beta xubuntu 11.04. is pretty fast and great x]
[19:37] <just_some_dude> re: cairo-dock. i used synaptic to "completely remove" cairo-dock. I rebooted and installed cairo-dock, and it loaded automatically (even though I didn't tell it to). Just for kicks, I rebooted again, and am still getting multiple instances of cairo-dock.
[19:38] <just_some_dude> This makes me think there is some non cairo-dock config file somewhere. I've searched my home directoy for references to cairo-dock, but where else might config files be located?
[19:39] <charlie-tca> look in /etc
[19:39] <just_some_dude> ok
[19:39] <charlie-tca> Did you uncheck it in Session and Startup?
[19:40] <just_some_dude> no, but wouldn't uninstalling it remove it from session and startup?
[19:41] <charlie-tca> and reinstalling put it back?
[19:42] <just_some_dude> maybe, but i didn't start it up. there must have been some file somewhere that still had a reference to cairo-dock from before I uninstalled it.
[19:42] <just_some_dude> i should check i log, i think.
[19:45] <just_some_dude> is there an easy way to grep for "cairo-dock" in a bunch of log files all at once?
[19:50] <just_some_dude> /usr/share/applications looks like it might have something
[19:50] <charlie-tca> That would be the file used to put the menu entry in the menus for it
[19:51] <just_some_dude> ok
[19:59] <just_some_dude> does this sound like what sysi suggested i do: "You can also try to quit Cairo-Dock, enable the XFCE option to remember running applications on startup, restart your session and disable this previous option."?
[20:08] <Sysi> pretty much
[20:18] <just_some_dude> re: cairo-dock. i retried not saving the session. i rebooted and had only one instance of cairo-dock (that's good), but the bars at the top of programs (the ones that have the minimize, maximize and close buttons) disapperared (that's not good). so i restarted with the save session box checked, and things appears to be working normally.
[20:19] <just_some_dude> in other words, i have no idea what happened, but the computer seems to be working ok now.
[20:30] <james> Hey
[20:31] <james> I am BRAND new to xubuntu and I was wondering how to set up XChat IRC so it will go to this channel
[20:32] <just_some_guest> maybe a start up script
[20:32] <james> Anyone?
[20:33] <charlie-tca> Under Xchat, network list, edit the network,
[20:33] <charlie-tca> add #xubuntu to favorites
[20:33] <charlie-tca> Network is usually freenode
[20:33] <Guest49981> I am BRAND new to xubuntu and I was wondering how to set up XChat IRC so it will go to this channe
[20:34] <charlie-tca> Then read what I just typed
 Under Xchat, network list, edit the network,
 add #xubuntu to favorites
 Network is usually freenode
[20:36] <just_some_dude> yep, it works.
[20:36] <just_some_dude> just right click the channel name in the upper left of your screen, and click add to favorites
[20:36] <just_some_dude> of course, he's gone, isn't he?
[20:37] <charlie-tca> YUP
[20:37] <just_some_dude> oh well.
[20:37] <charlie-tca> sorry, didn't mean to use caps
[20:37] <just_some_dude> np, i gotta get gone too.
[21:57] <Imagus> Hey
[21:58] <Imagus> Can someone help me?
[22:19] <charlie-tca> Imagus: Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[22:21] <mark761> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_%28band%29#Improvisation.2C_recording_and_live_shows
[22:21] <mark761> WHoops
[22:21] <mark761> Ignore
[23:09] <ImagusXXII> Hey
[23:10] <knome> hello
[23:19] <ImagusXXII> How are you?
[23:19] <ImagusXXII> I have a question about Parole Media Player. When I put in my dvd it now says could not read from resource.
[23:20] <knome> have you tried any other player?
[23:22] <bazhang> !find parole
[23:22] <bazhang> get libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org
[23:23] <knome> bazhang, isn't an installer script copied to /usr when you install libdvdred or sth?
[23:23] <bazhang> knome, libdvdread4 iirc
[23:23] <knome> mmh
[23:23] <bazhang> !find libdvdread
[23:23] <knome> it's been a while since i installed those packages
[23:24] <bazhang> I just get the dvdcss2 from medibuntu, but that works too
[23:24] <knome> i suppose that's the same, but with the installed script you don't need to add additional ppa's
[23:26] <bazhang> no need for the repo, just get the package
[23:26] <knome> mm, right
[23:27] <knome> aren't those packages pulled in with *-restricted-extras, or are they even outside that?
[23:27] <bazhang> outside
[23:28] <knome> any specific reason?
[23:28] <knome> they can't be even in the repositories?
[23:29] <ImagusXXII> I got it.
[23:29] <bazhang> working?
[23:29] <ImagusXXII> I didn't install the second step after you install the restricted media formats
[23:36] <ImagusXXII> I just installed Jack the Ripper and I cant find it now that I have installed it
[23:38] <bazhang> ImagusXXII, installed from where, and what are you trying to do
[23:38] <bazhang> !find juicer
[23:39] <bazhang> !info sound-juicer
[23:39] <ImagusXXII> sudo apt-get install john is how i installed it