=== emma is now known as em [02:38] I think I have removed a package that was used by network-manager to show the current connection status. Currently, the icon showed in the notification area is a static icon of a missing icon, regardless of connection status. It still works fine, just looks ugly and isn't as useful. Here is what it looks like: http://tinypic.com/r/2s8ss61/7 [02:39] sillav: are you trying to make it not show up? [02:40] in the panel near it right click and go to "properties" the networkmanager applet can be hidden [02:40] (any of them can be by selecting in the checkbox) [02:42] No.. I find it quite useful. I just want it to show the status icons it used to. Just by looking at it I could see if I was connected, or not, or connecting. [02:56] I'll disconnect while I try something new === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === IdleOne is now known as excal_cheating === excal_cheating is now known as IdleOne === toga-blue is now known as toga === sarjuva_ is now known as sarjuva [06:30] Hi all, I'm having trouble finding a command that works for 10.10 to start the system without X === Tsagdai is now known as Tsagadai === jussi01_ is now known as jussi [06:55] no one can help with disabling X (the entire graphical desktop)? [07:16] figured it out... === TheSheep_ is now known as TheSheep [09:44] <{C9}t00lsh3d> have this xfwm4 folder that doesn't seem to be applying in Usr/share/themes/halcion-lime all that seems to apply is the gtk-2.0 any ideas ? [09:44] <{C9}t00lsh3d> I* [10:22] Hi [10:22] I'm switching to Xubuntu, because Ubuntu whill ship with Unity in 11..10 [10:22] hey [10:38] soo xfce-panel is definitely hosed in Natty right now, it's the same on two seperate machines. [10:41] Ciemon_: that's the side-effect of fixing a bug unfortunately, wipe/reset the panel config and restart the panel [10:41] ochosi: tried and it's still hosed [10:41] what you're describing only applies to existing installs btw, not to new installs after the bugfix [10:42] Ciemon_: could you elaborate a bit, what do you mean by "hosed"? [10:42] I have nothing in ~/.config/xfce4/panel so there's nothing to wipe [10:43] sure, there are no panels showing, although xfce4-panel is running [10:43] Ciemon_: log out, then "rm -f [10:43] $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml" in a vt, then log back in [10:44] Ciemon_: this will restore the default config [10:44] brb [10:47] ochosi: you're a star, thank you [10:47] Ciemon_: no problem ;) [10:47] !panels [10:47] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [10:48] this item should really be updated btw... [10:48] yeah, I just wanted to make sure that I hadn't misread that page [10:48] the blog-post on how to set a bg-image doesn't apply anymore to the 4.8 panel [10:48] awwh [10:49] !panels-#xubuntu is Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels [10:49] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [10:49] äesch [11:05] !panels [11:05] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels [11:05] ochosi, ^ [11:06] nice, thanks :) === Pici` is now known as Pici [12:35] Have you chaps heard the news about 11.10? [12:35] Ubuntu 11.10 [12:35] mark761, ? [12:36] They're dropping trad Gnome and having Unity as the exclusive Ubuntu desktop from Oneiric onwards [12:36] yes? [12:36] Yep [12:36] and? :) [12:37] Opportunity for Xubuntu/Sfce, perhaps? [12:37] Not everyone will want to switch to Unity [12:37] Xfce [12:37] Damn it [12:38] probably, but that doesn't mean we'll start running after the old gnome users === thermi is now known as Thermi [12:38] I'm sure you won't need to [12:38] i suppose so yeah [12:38] Didn't Gnome pick up a lot of new users from KDE when that moved to 4.0? [12:38] though i think a few can switch to completely other distros as well, and that's fine as well [12:39] Yeah [12:39] i think, and xfce/xubuntu too with the broken kubuntu 8.04 [12:40] hungry. bbl :) [13:33] hello! can anyone help me with a problem related to tightvnc? [14:23] hi all [14:23] how to mount iso file by right click in xubuntu? [14:23] please help.. :( [14:24] i can do easily in ubuntu but not in xubuntu [14:25] if you can't do it you propably just can't, but i think there's separate program(s) [14:26] what kind of iso [14:26] CD and DVD file [14:26] tutorial file [14:27] vlc [14:27] vlc multimedia player? [14:27] yes [14:28] let me try [14:28] ok [14:29] No suitable decoder module: [14:29] VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. :D [14:30] undf [14:30] i just wondering when i use ubuntu.. i just did right click and suddenly that iso mount auto [14:31] l4ng1t, got the w32codecs from medibuntu.org installed? [14:32] l4ng1t: what kind of format is the stuff on the iso? tutorial isn't really a file-type, is it? [14:33] bazhang: yes.. i have [14:34] l4ng1t, why not rip it then [14:34] or try gmountiso [14:34] !info gmountiso [14:34] gmountiso (source: gmountiso): This is Gmountiso, a PyGTK GUI to mount your cd images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-0ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 16 kB, installed size 176 kB [14:34] ochosi: my video tutorial.. mostly from trainsignal [14:34] l4ng1t: right, but what file-format is it? [14:34] try with ogmrip [14:36] ochosi: what you mean file forman?? Train Signal - ICND2.iso <= like this? [14:37] l4ng1t: no, the stuff that is contained by the iso, if it's a video, is it .avi, .mov, ..? [14:37] undf [14:38] right, i didn't know that video format [14:38] well.. undf file.. but i prefer to have virtual CD [14:38] bazhang: thx.. its working with gmountiso :D [14:38] i thought it simply means it's an "undefined format" because vlc couldn't detect the real format [14:38] what encodes in undf? [14:39] its an audio codec btw [15:58] sigue, you seem to be having some connectivity issues. can you try to fix them? [15:59] sigue, you seem to be having some connectivity issues. can you try to fix them? [16:41] What was the Natty-related beta channel? i always forget... [16:41] nicofs, #ubuntu+1 [16:41] sigue, please do something about your connection or i'll have to banforward you until it's fixed [16:42] knome, thanks... i found myself alone in #ubuntu-1 - close... [16:56] knome: just as soon have anyone with an IP such as that banned from here. If they are serious about needing help, they would not want to give that message [17:04] knome: +b *!*@stole.ur.cc-number.info$##fix_your_connection [17:04] if you want them to stop join/pinging out [17:04] fix the new ban [17:04] oh [17:04] never mind [17:09] IdleOne, i suppose the ident is enough really :) [17:09] IdleOne, it's just to ##fix_your_connection anyway [17:09] your first ban failed because it was to specific to nick!ident@host [17:10] but yeah since it is only for a redirect :) [17:10] IdleOne, yup, i noticed that, but before that, his nick didn't change [17:10] well at least not every time. my bad ;) [17:11] knome: yeah if when the client tried to rejoin while the server still thought the primary was in use [17:11] it will change [17:11] yep [17:12] i know, i still have traumas of having to use knome_ for some seconds! :( [17:12] haha [17:19] seems to be stabilized now [17:20] for how many seconds? :) [17:20] perhaps remove the forward if it happens again reset. Been 18 minutes now [17:21] yeah, sounds sensible [17:24] hi where is installed the apps like chromium cuz i want to make a new shortcut to the top bar [17:24] Chromium does not come pre-installed in Xubuntu [17:25] You can install it using Software Center or Synaptic Package Manager [17:26] just command is enough, chromium is iirc chromium-browser [17:26] Sysi: what do you mean by "just command is enough"? [17:27] * charlie-tca thinks Sysi is right [17:27] charlie-tca, tnks i already install it but i want to make a simple shortcut on the top bar like firefox [17:27] IdleOne: no path needed [17:27] no need to have entire path to /usr/bin/program [17:27] oh [17:27] ok I get it [17:27] canchis: then just add chromium-browser as the program [17:27] You don't need the stuff in front of it [17:28] If you really want all that, it is usually found in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin [17:28] canchis, right-click the panel and select "add new items" and launcher from the dialog... then add 'chromium-browser' as the command [17:35] knome, i open tht place untill add new item and launcer but i cant find where to add the chomium is only " name, desription, icon, comand, and home, and on the left place is new ite and a plus to add an item and ive try to find on the command line and even typing chromium and chromium-browser but didint work pls help me litle bit more im new wit linux [17:35] canchis, on the command-input box, you should type chromium-browser. is that not working? [17:37] How was it installed? [17:37] is not working [17:37] i install it in the ubuntu software [17:38] and is working by the aplication menu [17:43] go to /usr/share/applications and see if it is there, you can open the file by right-clicking and picking "open with... mousepad" [17:43] It will have all the information that is used for the menu [17:46] there is only kde and kde4 and screensavers [17:46] other place? [17:47] I don't use xubuntu but can't he just right click the menu item and add to panel? [17:47] Doesn't work until Natty, AFAIK [17:48] in ubuntu (gnome) it does [17:48] not in xfce [17:48] ah k [17:48] Drag and drop works in 4.8 [17:49] However, if only kde is in /usr/share/applications, I don't know where the menu files are. [17:50] I only use Xubuntu and Ubuntu, and try not to use Kubuntu [17:54] He maybe could use the locate command to find ubuntu-software-center.desktop [17:54] no, he wants to add the launcher for chromium [17:56] But that might find where all his .desktop files are (I just randomly picked one) [18:08] and so where the app is installed? [18:11] canchis: can you open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb" hit enter, then "locate chromium-browser.desktop" [18:17] i foud it [18:17] but it say permise denied [18:22] tnks any way [18:44] you need to load the kernal first. [18:44] sery [18:45] I just installed xubuntu and got this error: error: cannot allocate real mode pages. error: you need to load the kernal first. Press any key to continue..._ [18:46] if i press a key it just says it over and over [18:46] help! [18:47] ugh... #linux [18:49] bad cd [18:49] or bad downloiad [18:49] what do you mean? cd has no errors, i checked [18:50] Either the cd burned wrong or the download is bad. [18:50] I know that every time I get that error, one of those is wrong [18:50] the pc is from 1996, 450 mhz processor, 300 mb of ram [18:51] should I install the xubuntu 11.04 beta on my laptop? [18:51] As long as you can afford to have it broken, yes [18:51] I want to get rid of archlinux to keep it simple :P [18:51] Beta is still not stable, no matter how many blogs say otherwise [18:51] ugh... this sucks. i have to wait 2 hrs for the hd to format again [18:52] charlie-tca: know of any really light weight os'es good for a server, it needs to support rsync and cron jobs [18:53] I know. but is it recommended since it's beta [18:53] Ubuntu server? [18:53] that isnt very lightweight [18:53] ? [18:53] fslima0: charlie-tca is helping lrussell [18:53] yes [18:53] i see [18:53] fslima0: It is only recommended for those who can afford to be broken and know how to fix things wrhn they break [18:54] if you mess things up, format hd with dban (google it) and just reinstall ur os [18:54] fslima0: If you need the system to work everyday for production use, do NOT install an unstable release. [18:55] lrussell: what do you mean, Ubuntu server is not lightweight? It does not use a GUI, it does not use much ram, it does not need much cpu [18:55] charlie-tca are you using it right now? [18:55] it's not far off from the stable version is it? [18:55] fslima0: yes, but I also can fix most things, and have a second system side-by-side running Xubuntu 10.04 [18:55] it isnt gui, great. will it support tightvnc [18:56] it will be my only access to the server. [18:56] April 28 [18:56] fslima0: a lot of issues yet with video, and the other day panels were gone for a day or so [18:57] lrussell: I believe it will support tightvnc, but I may be wrong. [18:57] cmd install: apt-get install tightvncserver [18:58] You can install any app with that command, that doesn't mean they work [18:58] ok [18:58] so xubuntu cd is corrupted? the one i downloaded [18:59] I can install gedit with sudo apt-get install gedit, but it won't run without a gui [18:59] lrussell: sounds like it, unless with a two-hour format, it just lost the image [18:59] what do ya mean, 2 hrs format [19:00] the format cleared the hd, partitions and all [19:00] ugh... this sucks. i have to wait 2 hrs for the hd to format again [19:00] ... [19:01] You might need the alternate image to install on that system [19:01] i used an alternative image [19:01] in the first place [19:01] what do u think about centos [19:02] I only use Ubuntu and Xubuntu [19:02] yea [19:02] I don't know anything about centos, really [19:03] well, it is a good server os [19:04] I installed Ubuntu Server, it works good for me [19:04] xubuntu 10.04, xfce 4.6: i have cairo-dock loaded at start up, but every time i reboot, i get an additional instance of cairo-dock. eg - first boot=2 cairo-docks, second boot=3 cairo-docks, third boot=4 cairo-docks... how can i fix this? [19:04] but I don't run headless, either [19:05] Stop saving the session each time? [19:05] lol [19:05] i've never not saved sessions [19:05] #linux [19:05] just_some_dude just don't restart the computer LOL [19:05] Check for duplicate files in startup [19:05] ha [19:06] no duplicates [19:06] fslima0: that isn't helpful [19:06] Got to be something spawning a new file every boot [19:06] j/k [19:06] is uninstalling and reinstalling cairo-dock worthwhile? [19:07] I don't know. I don't use it [19:07] but you are familiar with it? [19:07] There might be duplicates in ~/.config/autostart [19:07] checked that too. [19:07] I have heard of it [19:08] Nothing in Settings Manager -> Session and Startup? [19:08] just_some_dude: does it have settings to be autostarted when computer is started? [19:08] If it is in there, uncheck it [19:09] just the one instance is listed [19:09] rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and don't save session, if doesn't work, save [19:09] sysi, yes [19:09] ok, i'll try it [19:10] bbl [19:16] sysi, didn't work, still multiple instances [19:25] is there a difference between xubuntu and regular ubuntu with xfce installed? [19:25] ??? [19:26] i have a xubuntu 10.04 cd, and a ubuntu 10.10 cd. can i install ubuntu 10.10 and just use xfce for the desktop? [19:29] re: cairo-dock. i'm going to just try removal and reinstall and see what happens. [19:29] just_some_dude: you can install Ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop [19:33] Hi [19:33] I must say, beta xubuntu 11.04. is pretty fast and great x] [19:37] re: cairo-dock. i used synaptic to "completely remove" cairo-dock. I rebooted and installed cairo-dock, and it loaded automatically (even though I didn't tell it to). Just for kicks, I rebooted again, and am still getting multiple instances of cairo-dock. [19:38] This makes me think there is some non cairo-dock config file somewhere. I've searched my home directoy for references to cairo-dock, but where else might config files be located? [19:39] look in /etc [19:39] ok [19:39] Did you uncheck it in Session and Startup? [19:40] no, but wouldn't uninstalling it remove it from session and startup? [19:41] and reinstalling put it back? [19:42] maybe, but i didn't start it up. there must have been some file somewhere that still had a reference to cairo-dock from before I uninstalled it. [19:42] i should check i log, i think. [19:45] is there an easy way to grep for "cairo-dock" in a bunch of log files all at once? [19:50] /usr/share/applications looks like it might have something [19:50] That would be the file used to put the menu entry in the menus for it [19:51] ok [19:59] does this sound like what sysi suggested i do: "You can also try to quit Cairo-Dock, enable the XFCE option to remember running applications on startup, restart your session and disable this previous option."? [20:08] pretty much [20:18] re: cairo-dock. i retried not saving the session. i rebooted and had only one instance of cairo-dock (that's good), but the bars at the top of programs (the ones that have the minimize, maximize and close buttons) disapperared (that's not good). so i restarted with the save session box checked, and things appears to be working normally. [20:19] in other words, i have no idea what happened, but the computer seems to be working ok now. [20:30] Hey [20:31] I am BRAND new to xubuntu and I was wondering how to set up XChat IRC so it will go to this channel [20:32] maybe a start up script [20:32] Anyone? [20:33] Under Xchat, network list, edit the network, === james is now known as Guest49981 [20:33] add #xubuntu to favorites [20:33] Network is usually freenode [20:33] I am BRAND new to xubuntu and I was wondering how to set up XChat IRC so it will go to this channe [20:34] Then read what I just typed [20:35] Under Xchat, network list, edit the network, [20:35] add #xubuntu to favorites [20:35] Network is usually freenode [20:36] yep, it works. [20:36] just right click the channel name in the upper left of your screen, and click add to favorites [20:36] of course, he's gone, isn't he? [20:37] YUP [20:37] oh well. [20:37] sorry, didn't mean to use caps [20:37] np, i gotta get gone too. === Thermi is now known as thermi [21:57] Hey [21:58] Can someone help me? [22:19] Imagus: Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know. [22:21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_%28band%29#Improvisation.2C_recording_and_live_shows [22:21] WHoops [22:21] Ignore [23:09] Hey [23:10] hello [23:19] How are you? [23:19] I have a question about Parole Media Player. When I put in my dvd it now says could not read from resource. [23:20] have you tried any other player? [23:22] !find parole [23:22] Found: browser-plugin-parole, parole, parole-dev [23:22] get libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org [23:23] bazhang, isn't an installer script copied to /usr when you install libdvdred or sth? [23:23] knome, libdvdread4 iirc [23:23] mmh [23:23] !find libdvdread [23:23] Found: libdvdread-dbg, libdvdread-dev, libdvdread4 [23:23] it's been a while since i installed those packages [23:24] I just get the dvdcss2 from medibuntu, but that works too [23:24] i suppose that's the same, but with the installed script you don't need to add additional ppa's [23:26] no need for the repo, just get the package [23:26] mm, right [23:27] aren't those packages pulled in with *-restricted-extras, or are they even outside that? [23:27] outside [23:28] any specific reason? [23:28] they can't be even in the repositories? [23:29] I got it. [23:29] working? [23:29] I didn't install the second step after you install the restricted media formats [23:36] I just installed Jack the Ripper and I cant find it now that I have installed it [23:38] ImagusXXII, installed from where, and what are you trying to do [23:38] !find juicer [23:38] Found: sound-juicer [23:39] !info sound-juicer [23:39] sound-juicer (source: sound-juicer): GNOME CD Ripper. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.31.6-0ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 1699 kB, installed size 4820 kB [23:39] sudo apt-get install john is how i installed it