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smspillaz|zzzfta: you need to ping me at times that aren't 1AM02:26
smspillaz|zzzlike now :)02:28
djtorcaI have removed Evolution Mail as I use Thunderbird. I am unable to set it as my preferred email client and hence the Dash icon is inactive? How to fix?02:39
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didrocksgood morning07:42
AndreaAzzaronedidrocks, good morning :)07:57
didrockshey AndreaAzzarone! how are you?07:57
AndreaAzzaronedidrocks, fine thanks... what about you?07:58
didrocksAndreaAzzarone: I'm very good, thanks! beautiful weather there ;)07:59
AndreaAzzaronedidrocks, spring has arrived also in Italy! :)08:00
didrocksheh, *finally*… long winter :)08:01
AndreaAzzaronedidrocks, wintes is good for hacking! :)08:02
DaveDavenportstefano-palazzo: blekko?08:04
stefano-palazzoDaveDavenport, sorry, I hit tab to fast - that message was for someone else08:09
didrocksHum, jono's photo for me is so close to reality :)08:10
oSoMoNgood morning08:11
MacSlowgood morning everybody08:14
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stefano-palazzodavidcalle,10:20
stefano-palazzoSorry I often miss things in IRC, ping me when you're around10:20
davidcallestefano-palazzo, hi10:21
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, hey :-)10:22
davidcallestefano-palazzo, I'm experiencing a Lens bug. When it's launched at startup it only gets/displays half the results. Have you seen this?10:23
stefano-palazzowhat results are missing? a specific group or category or something like that?10:23
davidcallestefano-palazzo, half the results, no matter the group.10:25
stefano-palazzoInteresting, no I've not seen that before.10:25
davidcallestefano-palazzo, jcastro told me you had something similar in your Lens because it was "starting too fast". I'm trying to find the workaround in your code, without success.10:26
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, so, I suppose there is a timeout, when the callback is ignored and no more results are displayed, it could depend on the system load (which is very high when you're just starting unity)10:27
stefano-palazzoAre you flushing the model-queue somewhere in your code?10:27
davidcalleYes10:28
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, sorry, in that case, I've no idea what's causing it10:28
davidcalleI'm realizing I didn't try to launch it at startup since I'm flushing the model queue... :-)10:29
stefano-palazzoheh10:29
davidcalleAbout Blekko, I'm going to play with it tonight. It might be interesting.10:30
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, nice, please let me know how that goes - I'm particularly interested in the speed, i.e. response-time10:30
davidcallestefano-palazzo, me too, as I'm trying to cross check results with several API calls.10:31
davidcallestefano-palazzo, sure, I'll keep you informed.10:32
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, do you have a problem with filtering google results like "%s site:wikipedia.org"?10:33
stefano-palazzoThere's a comment in your code suggesting that's an issue10:33
davidcallestefano-palazzo, the issue is Wikipedia. It has lots of images on single pages and it's hard to get the good one with a Google search.10:34
stefano-palazzoOh right, I forgot you only get a few results back10:34
davidcallestefano-palazzo, site:somesite.org is not a problem, it works really welll, I'm doing it for OpenLibrary.10:35
stefano-palazzoyeah, using google is really, really nice10:35
stefano-palazzotoo bad their new API is astronomically expensive10:36
davidcallestefano-palazzo, that's why I have good hopes for Blekko.10:36
stefano-palazzohave you already looked at their terms of service?10:36
stefano-palazzojorge gave me a link, where it said something along the lines of "the ToS prohibits you from doing anything interesting"10:37
davidcallestefano-palazzo, they sent me a pdf doc, I will read it tonight, but the mail summarized it : "don't do more than a call per second".10:39
stefano-palazzooh10:39
stefano-palazzothanks for taking the time to tell me all this, I'm looking forward to your verdict :)10:40
davidcalleThough, I'm thinking of adding a Dash item "Search powered by SomeCompany" at the end of the results by default.10:42
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, I bet we're not the only people who are going to run into the problem of attribution, maybe it'd be a good idea to request a feature10:42
stefano-palazzoSomething like, an arbitrary image that you can put in the lower left of the dash10:43
davidcallestefano-palazzo, right.10:43
stefano-palazzoI can post something about it to the ayatana mailing list10:43
davidcallestefano-palazzo, someone asked me if there was a way to bookmark interesting searches. This could be another nice feature.10:44
stefano-palazzoyes that's a nice idea10:44
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, I'm doing these special searches for things I expect to be important. So, if you type "chat", it immediately gives you an icon for the Ask Ubuntu chat, similarly you can type "au" or "askubuntu" and hit enter, to go to the main site10:45
davidcallestefano-palazzo, I've seen it, it's clever.10:46
davidcallestefano-palazzo, I'm still a bit  worried about something: it's the uncertainty of the UX. When you click a Dash result, you don't really know what to expect, at least on my Lens. I've added a "Free Books" section so you can be sure to "have a book to read when you click", but I feel that's not enough.10:49
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, that's not a big problem for me, I always have much more results than I can display.10:51
stefano-palazzothe free books thing is a brilliant idea!10:51
vishjcastro: seen the Shell videos where they introduce new features? we could do something similar with didrocks or DBO or njpatel or bitesizers , for new Unity features , and make them movie stars ;)10:51
davidcallestefano-palazzo, thanks to Google, the API is very limited in term of things to ask, but at least, they have that. :-)10:52
stefano-palazzodavidcalle, I suppose you're going to get some feedback about it sooner or later, I would hypothesise that people are used to this uncertainty, as it occurs all over the web10:53
stefano-palazzoYou never really know what's behind any link10:53
davidcallestefano-palazzo, well, this shouldn't happen :b10:53
stefano-palazzotrue10:54
davidcalleI hope Blekko will give me a way to display some featured searches when the Lens is opened: like 50's Science Fiction or Italian Poetry. It's still clunky with Google.10:56
ftasmspillaz|zzz, hi10:56
ftasmspillaz|zzz, eheh, your "like now" was 3am for me10:56
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smspillaz|zzzfta: ok, now is a good time :)11:25
smspillaz|zzzfta: except that if it is a reminder to fix broken apps like xterm, just note that I need to work on slightly more important things right now but it *is* on my agenda11:26
ftasmspillaz|zzz, just wanted an update on this one. now, i have it, thanks11:27
mptdidrocks, hi, do you know why Mumble ended up on the notification area whitelist?11:34
didrocksmpt: was request in bug #73268211:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 732682 in unity "Whitelist mumble for systray" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73268211:36
didrocksrequested*11:36
mptthanks didrocks11:37
didrocksyw :)11:37
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Guest61007I would like to know how to install unity on ubuntu 11.0412:14
Guest61007I tried to add ppa:unity/ppa and then install with apt-get install unity12:14
Guest61007but no results12:15
stefano-palazzoGuest61007, this isn't the right place to ask for support, have a look at #ubuntu on this IRC server, the ubuntu forums at http://http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:17
chrisccoulsonmpt - i keep getting firefox bugs about not being able to right-click on bookmark entries in the menus and selecting "open in new tab" or "open in new window" - i'm not sure how i should respond to these12:58
chrisccoulson(i know it's not supported, but i guess having context menus in menus is undesirable isn't it?)12:59
mpthmmm12:59
mptchrisccoulson, that seems like a good use case for modifier keys on menu items12:59
chrisccoulsonmpt - bug 748850 for example12:59
ubot5Launchpad bug 748850 in unity (Ubuntu) "Can't middle or right click on bookmarks to open in new tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74885012:59
mpte.g. if you can Ctrl click on a link in a Web page, you should be able to Ctrl click on a bookmark in the menu12:59
chrisccoulsonthat would probably be ok13:00
chrisccoulsonmpt - would you mind commenting on that bug?13:00
mptsure13:01
chrisccoulsonmpt - in fact, ctrl+click already does that in the firefox native menus13:02
chrisccoulsonwe'd need to plumb that in to unity though13:03
chrisccoulsonand shift+click opens in new window :)13:03
chrisccoulsonmpt - thanks for the comment13:07
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jcastrodidrocks: so what's up with super-s13:50
didrocksjcastro: what do you mean?13:50
jcastrois it supposed to be what it is?13:50
jcastropeople are asking how to get to the shutdown menu, which used to be super s13:51
didrocksfor workspace? right13:51
jcastronow it's something else13:51
jcastroer, not bound to anything at all13:51
didrocksit's for workspace mode, I referenced the bug on the changelog when doing the change13:51
jcastroright, but are we going to make a shortcut to the session menu?13:52
didrocksI don't know, it's more on kenvandine's plan, I really have no time to follow the indicators TBH13:52
jcastroah ok, ta13:53
didrocksstill dealing with last minute requests changing bunch of code…13:53
jcastrokenvandine: are we going to have a keyboard shortcut for the session menu?13:53
jcastrodidrocks: keep rocking!13:53
* kenvandine perks up13:54
kenvandinei thought we did!13:54
kenvandinelike last cycle...13:54
kenvandineoh... did that keyboard shortcut get hi-jacked?13:54
jcastroyes13:55
jcastroit was super-s13:55
kenvandinejcastro, is there a bug filed for this?13:57
jcastronot sure13:57
jcastroI can look13:57
kenvandinei am looking13:57
jcastrowhere would someone report that?13:57
jcastrokenvandine: F10-left arrow. :)13:58
jcastrobut still ....13:58
kenvandineyeah... we need to talk about that13:59
kenvandineif it was super-s in maverick14:00
jcastrokenvandine: indeed14:01
didrocksbug #72327314:02
ubot5Launchpad bug 723273 in unity (Ubuntu) "Super shortcuts for application place and workspace switcher conflicts with compiz keys" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72327314:02
jcastrokenvandine: njpatel what do you think?14:02
didrockslook at the conversation and all related bug14:02
didrocksI already argued on that14:02
kenvandinedidrocks, yeah, reading that14:02
jcastroso looks like the spec says one thing14:03
jcastroand we have something else14:03
didrockshum?14:03
kenvandinewell, ctrl-alt-del  works14:04
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SessionMenu says super-s14:04
kenvandinedoesn't let you logout14:04
kenvandinebut lets you shutdown, restart, and suspend14:04
jcastrooh, heh, close14:04
jcastroand you could say, if you want to suspend just close the lid.14:05
jcastrobut I don't buy that. :)14:05
jcastrokenvandine: who in design is in charge of keyboard shortcuts?14:07
jcastrook this doesn't make sense14:07
jcastrowe moved super-e to super-s14:07
jcastrowhat is now super-s should be super-e - we shipped that way for like 2 years14:07
jcastroand super-s should be the session menu right?14:07
kenvandineJohnLea_ i think14:08
jcastroJohnLea_: around?14:09
jcastrokenvandine: ok so if we just assign something to the session menu that should be fine right?14:09
jcastroand if not, f10->left arrow seems good enough to me14:09
kenvandineif people agree to it14:09
kenvandineand ctrl-alt-del14:09
kenvandineworks for most cases14:10
* jcastro nods14:10
kenvandinegetting people to agree on keybindings == hard14:10
jcastrowell, I was hoping JohnLea_ would just tell us14:10
kenvandinejust fyi :)14:10
kenvandinejcastro, that is fine too14:10
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om26ergood evening lamalex, How are you?14:12
lamalexhi om26er14:18
lamalexi'm really good this morning14:18
om26erlamalex, glad to hear ;)14:19
JohnLea_jcastro, kenvandine; bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/723273 takes prescience over session menu spec14:20
ubot5Ubuntu bug 723273 in unity (Ubuntu) "Super shortcuts for application place and workspace switcher conflicts with compiz keys" [Medium,Fix released]14:20
jcastroJohnLea_: ok, so super-s definately belongs where it is now14:21
jcastroso we're just missing a shortcut to the sessionmenu, do we want one or do we go with f10->left arrow and ctrl-alt-del as workaround?14:22
kamstrupdidrocks: my French friend. I need your domain expertise in the French language!14:22
didrockskamstrup: bien sûr! :)14:22
kamstrupdidrocks: so I have https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/74645014:22
ubot5Ubuntu bug 746450 in unity (Ubuntu) "Impossible to search word after apostrophe" [Medium,Triaged]14:23
kamstrupdidrocks: Xapian doesn't seem good at handling this out of the box14:23
kamstrupdidrocks: so I am considering a hack, adding a custom stemmer that removes prefix letters from words like d'argent14:23
kamstrupmaking it just argent - only in the index of course (not user visible)14:24
kamstrupthat way the queries d'argent and argent would both match d'argent14:24
kamstrupbut would the rule CHAR APOSTROPHE WORD --> WORD  screw up something else in french?14:25
didrockskamstrup: make sense, as d' or l' is just like "du, le la les", they are meaningless14:25
aruizdidrocks, I'm trying to build the compiz bzr branch and the CMakeLists.txt points to unity/unity_window_decorator as a subdir, however the directory doesn't exist14:25
aruizdidrocks, am I missing something?14:25
kamstruparuiz: you're native spanish speaker right?14:25
aruizkamstrup, yup14:25
didrocksaruiz: look at our packages, we have patches in debian/patches/14:25
aruizdidrocks, cheers14:25
didrockskamstrup: so yeah, sounds reasonable to me :)14:26
aruizkamstrup, why?14:26
kamstruparuiz: I guess you use apostrophes to join words in spanish as well?14:26
aruizno we don't14:26
kamstrupphew14:26
kamstruparuiz: i love spanish then :-D14:26
aruizhah14:26
aruizhow come?14:26
kamstruparuiz: ^^ my discussion woith didrocks14:26
kamstruparuiz: In french ppl expect the query "argent" to match "d'argent"14:26
didrockskamstrup: so, you mean, you don't like language with ' ? ;=14:27
jcastrodidrocks: njpatel: also have a new person submit code if you guys wanna look at that14:27
kamstrupdidrocks: hehe almost14:27
aruizkamstrup, french is weird14:27
kamstrupdidrocks, aruiz: the danger here may be English where they use apostrophes in odd places14:27
didrockskamstrup: :p so l' is just like "le" (==the)  but there is a vowel starting the word after it ;)14:28
didrockssame for d' -> de, and so on…14:28
kamstrupdidrocks: yeah, I have some very bassic French knowledge14:28
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kamstrupdidrocks: afaics French won't break under my rule, but maybe other languages14:29
kamstrupAny Dutch speakers here?14:29
didrocksheh, kamstrup is looking for people ;)14:30
kamstrupmhr3: ! so you speak Czech and Slovak14:31
kamstrupmhr3: can you look at my comment #1 on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/746450 and tell me if that'll break some apostrophe usage in any of those languages?14:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 746450 in unity (Ubuntu) "Impossible to search word after apostrophe" [Medium,Triaged]14:32
JanCkamstrup: I speak dutch14:33
kamstrupJanC: My saviour!14:34
kamstrupJanC: any comment on the question I just asked mhr3 ^^?14:34
kamstrup(for Dutch of course :-D)14:34
didrocks"hunting citizen of the world"14:35
didrocksshould blog about that :)14:36
Kaleodidrocks: I need your help :)14:43
Kaleodidrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/75005814:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 750058 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Default application entry for banshee has incorrect executable" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:43
Kaleodidrocks: comment #1 indicates the fix is very very simple :)14:43
didrocksKaleo: uno memento :)14:43
Kaleodidrocks: un ;)14:43
Kaleodidrocks: momento ;)14:44
Kaleodidrocks: whatever :)14:44
Kaleodidrocks: thans :)14:44
Kaleothanks*14:44
lamalexdidrocks, did you run your script?14:46
didrockslamalex: yes14:46
didrocksKaleo: ok, looking :)14:46
lamalexdidrocks,  i really need it to run twice a day or something. it's really disheartening to have it skyrocket like it does when you run it less frequently14:46
didrockslamalex: I have the usual list of "status to sync manually"14:46
lamalexand now i have a backlog of 170 bugs i have to try and burn through14:46
didrockslamalex: I didn't run it yesterday because you didn't answer if it needs to be run or not14:47
lamalexdidrocks, can i run it myself?14:47
didrocksthe backlog wasn't 0 anyway14:47
didrockslamalex: I prefer to target and that we put somewhere for automatic checking14:47
didrocksthere is still some web errors I have to deal manually14:47
didrocksKaleo: ok, I'll check with Laney, he's uploading and syncing it14:48
didrocksKaleo: to not diverge from debian14:48
JanCkamstrup: currently the only possible issue I find in Dutch is things like "m'n" and "d'r", but I'm still thinking14:49
Kaleodidrocks: thanks a lot14:49
Kaleodidrocks: just for info, that bug breaks Unity 2D's dash14:49
didrocksbreaks? how? :)14:50
Kaleodidrocks: the home page basically misses Banshee14:50
kamstrupJanC: in cases like that I guess we should just leave the word as is, right?14:50
didrockskamstrup: oh yeah, when you parse this14:50
kamstrupwe'll index both the original and the "reduced" form14:51
JanCkamstrup: yes, and/or index them as they should be written formally (those forms are not official spelling AFAIK)14:54
kamstrupJanC: ok so it's not two words joined into one like in french, but one word contracted?14:55
JanCthese two are14:55
kamstrupok...14:56
JanCkamstrup: one other thing is if you use a possesive 's at the end of a 1-letter name (but that's a very uncommon corner case of course)14:56
kamstrupJanC: you have one letter names in Dutch?!14:56
JanClike in English: "X's manpage"14:56
didrockskamstrup: uploaded14:56
kamstrupah like that14:56
kamstrupdidrocks: ?14:56
JanCcompany names could be 1 letter in theory  ;)14:56
didrocksKaleo: fixed14:57
didrockskamstrup: really, weechat should have a way to configure stop on completion, sorry! :)14:57
kamstrupJanC: hmmm the one-letter names is a good point indeed14:57
kamstrupdidrocks: is the prefix char ever a CAPITAL letter in French or is it always lowercase14:57
didrockskamstrup: ahah, interesting question ;)14:58
kamstrupI guess one could start a sentence with D'Argent or something?14:58
didrocksyeah, even if it doesn't really make sense14:58
didrocks(I see that you match É <-> é, nice! Only good OS does that!)14:59
* kamstrup was just hoping the rule could be lowercase_char prefix word --> word, but it appears not14:59
JanCI found some others in Dutch: A'pen, A'dam, R'dam are short for Antwerpen, Amsterdam and Rotterdam14:59
ogra_hmm, am i supposed to have a calendar in the datetime indicator ?14:59
JanCso again not 2 words14:59
kamstrupJanC: ah blast14:59
didrocksogra_: if evolution is installed, yeah15:00
ogra_didrocks, and if evolution isnt installed (like on all arm images)15:00
didrocksogra_: then, ask to klattimer and tedg ;) I think it's stolen from evo15:00
ogra_hrm, that sucks15:01
ogra_the applet had it even without evo installed15:01
klattimerogra_: you can see the calendar without having evo installed anymore15:01
kamstrupdidrocks: we do? :-) I was actually just wondering how exactly xapian performed trnaliteration15:01
kamstruptransliteration even15:01
ogra_klattimer, thats a massive regression15:01
JanCI would also suggest you check african languages, some of them have extensive use of apostrophes IIRC15:01
didrockskamstrup: sshhhhhhhh, just tell "yeah, we took that into account ;)"15:01
tedgogra_, There was a bug.15:03
kamstrupdidrocks: Ah, i missed your accent on the E. I actually meant whether É <-> é <-> E <-> e was working. Which I expect it doesn't15:03
tedgogra_, Where if you didn't have evo there was no calendar15:03
tedgogra_, It's fixed in trunk15:03
tedgogra_, You'll still have the calendar, just no events.15:04
ogra_tedg, ah, great, thats what i wanted15:04
didrockskamstrup: tbh, you should match é, è, ê <-> e15:04
Kaleodidrocks: you rock!!15:04
didrockskamstrup: most of softwares are doing that in search15:04
ogra_i dont care about the events but having *a* calendar to look up dates is really a core feature for me15:04
kamstrupdidrocks: I know. But xapian is not really fitted to do so out of the box... Had we used Lucene otoh.... Sweet bliss :-)15:04
didrockskamstrup: just something to take into consideration for the future if we can merge the result to widespread the request or whatever :)15:05
ogra_tedg, hmm, though looking at natty-changes it appears in the latest changelog, shouldnt i have it already ?15:05
kamstrupdidrocks: transliteration is not a simple thing. Fx. in Danish we have å <--> aa15:05
didrockskamstrup: or build that into xapian so that we can have that with USC15:05
didrockskamstrup: who care about weird languages? :p15:06
didrocksoupsss ;)15:06
* didrocks runs…15:06
JanCI think the Unicode standard has transliteration tables or something like that?15:06
tedgogra_, Hmm, I don't think it's gotten to Natty yet...  kenvandine?15:06
didrocksJanC: oh really? that would be sweet to build that into Xapian15:06
ogra_* Uninstalling Evolution removes calendar from clock applet (LP: #691953)15:06
ogra_0.2.1-0ubuntu115:06
didrockskamstrup: I think xapian has already some bugs in debian about those?15:06
kamstrupdidrocks: very likely15:07
ogra_(which is also what i have installed)15:07
kamstrupJanC: I think you're right15:07
lamalexdbarth_, i remember seeing some discussion about this a while ago, but i don't remember what the resolution was. https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/74456515:07
ubot5Ubuntu bug 744565 in unity (Ubuntu) ""Help and Support" not available in Natty" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:07
JanCOTOH transliteration is language-dependent, so I'm not 100% sure  ☺15:07
kamstrupJanC: it is, but you can apply some almost-always correct rule for a big range of the "simple" cases15:09
kamstrupfx Lucene has ASCIIFoldingFilter15:09
JanCkamstrup: http://cldr.unicode.org/index/cldr-spec/transliteration-guidelines  ☺15:09
kenvandinetedg, ogra_: not yet... but i am hoping we'll do an upload today15:09
ogra_kenvandine, weird changelog entry then :)15:10
JanChttp://cldr.unicode.org/ --> Unicode Common Locale Data Repository15:10
kenvandinewhich changelog?15:10
ogra_thanks for the info though, looking forward to it15:10
kenvandinemaybe i didn't read far enough back... :)15:11
* kenvandine is in a meeting atm15:11
kamstrupJanC: yeah, and libicu has pretty comprehensive support for it as well15:11
ogra_kenvandine, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2011-March/010417.html15:11
ogra_kenvandine,  * Uninstalling Evolution removes calendar from clock applet (LP: #691953)15:12
kenvandinehummm15:12
kenvandinethen it was in the upload, although i didn't test that specifically myself15:13
kenvandineogra_, tedg: perhaps that was merged after you rolled the tarball?15:16
tedgkenvandine, ogra_, one was that it didn't work.  The new one is that it doesn't work at startup.  So if you had evolution and then removed it, we're still good.  Now, with the next release you could have never had Evolution and be okay.15:17
tedgkenvandine, ogra_, basically teh first fix was only half way.15:17
ogra_ah, perfect15:17
kenvandineok15:17
ogra_i'm on armel here, and all our images fall into the last category15:17
tedgogra_, You guys should fix that ;-)15:18
ogra_(we just install a mime handler for desktop-webmail on arm images)15:18
ogra_if evo learns to run in 512M without tearing down firefox at the same time we might consider fixing it15:19
ogra_;)15:19
tedgogra_, My phone now has 1GB of RAM... think bigger!15:19
ogra_we'll get there :)15:19
ogra_currently our low end is 512M, our average platform is 1G though15:20
tedgOkay, I'll revise: think average!  ;-)15:20
ogra_lol15:21
JanCEvolution should be split up into separate applications, that would be a start...15:25
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\shcan someone explain how to get the old "Places -> Bookmarks" back to action with Unity ? Or is there a new way to add e.g. Network SSH Server Bookmarks somehow to the launcher?15:49
\shdidrocks: bug #621884 reappeared in 3.8.2-0ubuntu115:54
ubot5Launchpad bug 621884 in unity "Doesn't parse Favorites (gtk bookmarks) well" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62188415:54
didrocks\sh: this is for kamstrup :)15:55
\shdidrocks: should I set it to new or incomplete for the three projects/packages?15:56
didrocks\sh: wait for kamstrup first, he'll debug it15:57
\shk15:57
\shbtw...good work on unity..dist-upgraded my main workstation today, no breaks even dual window setup is working...the only glitch is how to disable the second panel on the second display...or at least autohide it or let the window (in this case rdesktop) overlap the panel15:59
didrocksnice to know! ;) yeah, that happens16:00
lamalexom26er, cdbs, there are an assload of new unity bugs- what are you guys currently working on?16:06
om26erlamalex, incompletes16:07
om26eri looked into the NEW queue a few hours ago, the incompletes(with response) queue is nearly at end so will start on NEW after that, lamalex16:08
lamalexoh awesome!!16:09
lamalexyou rule!16:09
jcastroyou know what jason noticed on the compiz bugs16:14
jcastropeople were out of date16:14
jcastroand the system lets them report bugs anyway16:14
jcastroso they fixed a ton of  crashers with 3.8.216:15
jcastroand then over the weekend got a bunch of  dupes for bugs that were fixed already16:15
jcastroit would be cool if apport could say "ok so your unity crashed but you're behind, please update and then holla at me if it crashes" kind of thing16:16
kenvandinejcastro, i thought it did16:16
jcastroare we sure if it does or not?16:17
jcastrohmm, UDS question I guess16:17
\shjcastro: http://www.piware.de/2011/03/new-apport-feature-custom-bug-duplicate-identification/16:18
om26erjcastro, the same seems to be happening for nux crashers16:18
om26ercrashes fixed in nux 0.9.38 and people are still reporting them for 0.9.3616:19
jcastroright16:20
jcastroso basically, those just tie you guys up with junk16:20
om26erdidrocks, it seems unity --reset is broken(?) on two different machines I have seen unity --reset disabled unity plugin and returned only the wallpaper16:26
mhr3kamstrup, no worries there are no apostrophes in czech nor slovak :)16:27
didrocksom26er: oh really? I'll give it a try, if you relaunch compiz then, what happens?16:27
om26erdidrocks, compiz runs but not unity, have to re-enable the plugin in ccsm16:29
om26erthis happens in 'Desktop' session16:29
didrocksom26er: "Desktop" as Ubuntu session, the one which runs unity, right?16:30
om26eryes16:30
didrocksthat's really weird, I'll give it a try16:33
didrocksbut that shouldn't change16:33
kenvandinekamstrup, i figured out that startup problem with the gwibber lens16:45
kenvandineif it blew up trying to get a connect to gwibber over dbus, it never setup the sections model completely16:46
kenvandineor it did but whatever on the other end in unity didn't get the changes...16:46
kenvandinekamstrup, so it only broke if you tried to open the lens before the gwibber-service was running16:47
kenvandinei added a bunch of error handling code and fixed all that up16:47
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kamstrupkenvandine: haha, nice detective work :-)16:49
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jcastrodidrocks: did we ever hook up installing ccsm to about:config?17:26
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cdbslamalex: hey there! I am actually working on fixing bugs today, will be back to triaging tomorrow18:55
lamalexok18:55
zniavregood evening19:04
zniavrehow to clean the alt+f2 history please ?19:04
ftadbarth_, yt?19:08
didrockszniavre: we use the same than gnome-panel, it's a gconf key (so with gconf-editor): /apps/gnome-settings/gnome-panel/history-gnome-run19:09
lamalexcdbs, what are you working on fixing?19:13
om26erlamalex, unity's NEW queue have been touched but tomorrow i'll try to tackle most of it.19:26
zniavredidrocks,  thank you (i did not know the trick for gnome-panel)19:26
lamalexom26er, yeah  im going to keep working on new for the rest of today19:27
lamalexthanks for rocking SO hard om26er19:27
om26erlamalex, so i'd be going to bed now ;)19:28
om26erthank you lamalex19:28
lamalexgoodnight19:29
cdbslamalex: There was 1 bug in unity-place-applications about apt: urls, working on it right now19:56
cdbslamalex: as well as:19:56
cdbsbug #74169919:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 741699 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher is inactive when the dash appears" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74169919:56
cdbslamalex: tomorrow I'll work fully on the new queue, as well as I'll try tackling 20-30 bugs by today night itself19:57
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cdbsjaytaoko: Hi, could you help me in fixing a bug? Looks like nux' Geometry structure isn't well-documented, and I am unable to get whether nux::BaseWindow's OnMouseDownOutsideOfView gives X and Y values offset from the start of the screen or offset from the beginning of the BaseWindow itself20:56
cdbsI am trying to fix bug #74169920:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 741699 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher is inactive when the dash appears" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74169920:57
jaytaokocdbs: hello21:08
cdbshi jaytaoko21:08
cdbsjaytaoko: I just want to know whether the X and Y values provided by OnMouseDownOutsideOfView are offset from the beginning of screen or from beginning of BaseWindow itself21:09
cdbsI got lost in the Nux source code while searching and the docs aren't helpful21:09
jaytaokocdbs: let me check that for you...21:09
cdbsthanks21:09
jaytaokocdbs: if signal OnMouseDownOutsideOfView is emitted from the an area inside a BaseWindow, then  (X,Y) correspond to the position of the mouse inside the BaseWindow21:15
cdbsjaytaoko: but,, if its outside?21:15
cdbsjaytaoko: let me explain the scenario21:15
cdbsjaytaoko: Here I am dealing with the Dash21:15
cdbsjaytaoko: I want to detect in the  OnMouseDownOutsideOfView whether the click area is inside the Launcher or not. The BaseWindow here is the Dash21:16
cdbsThe launcher is behind the dash in such a case21:17
cdbsand this doesn't seem architecturally possible with nux21:17
jaytaokocdbs: in the case of the Dash (which is a BaseWindow), the (X, Y) correspond to the position on the screen21:18
cdbsjaytaoko: okay, then. But with that respect I don't understand what the last 2 arguments mean in this contructor:21:18
cdbsnux::Geometry geo (_monitor_rect.x, _monitor_rect.y, _launcher_size, PANEL_HEIGHT)21:18
cdbsagain not explained in the docs at all21:18
cdbslooks like the Geometry class isn't in the docs21:19
jaytaokocdbs: so if you receive a signal OnMouseDownOutsideOfView from the Dash BaseWindow, (X, Y) are relative to the top left corner of the screen21:19
jaytaokocdbs: the Geometry class is a typedef of the Rect class21:19
jaytaokocdbs: the last 2 arguments are the width and height of the rectangle21:20
jaytaokocdbs: check this file in NuxCore\Rect.h21:21
cdbs:O21:21
cdbsjaytaoko: ah thanks, now I get it completely21:21
cdbsthanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks21:21
jaytaokocdbs: no problem, sorry about the confusion21:21
cdbsjaytaoko: no probs, I know writing docs is a boring job ;)21:21
jaytaokocdbs: I am rewriting some docs that will be made available shortly21:21
coz_ good day to all21:42
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didrocksjono: re your post yesterday: when did I give you my photo? :-)22:45
jonodidrocks, LOL!22:45
jono:-)22:45
didrocks:-)22:45

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