[00:02] !liveusb [00:02] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [00:02] navatwo: i find using usb-creator to be the most sucessful/easiest [00:02] James147: I tried using both usb-creator *and* unetbootin [00:03] navatwo: what version are you on? [00:03] 11.04 [00:03] navatwo: are you sure your computer is capable of booting from a usb? [00:04] the mobo is < 1 year old and it booted windows :s [00:05] navatwo: it booted windows from a usbdrive? [00:05] yup [00:05] hmm [00:06] i wonder.. what if I format it to NTFS [00:06] i doupt that would make a differnce ^^ and a usb drive or usb cd/dvd rom? [00:06] thumbdrive [00:07] hmm, weird that both unetbotin and usb-creator fail then :S [00:09] that was my thought as well James147 [00:12] navatwo: you could try using dd to copy the image directly... but i cant remember if that works with kubuntu [00:14] I've tried that before too [00:16] navatwo: is this using nattys image? if so have your tried 10.10 or 10.04? [00:17] I have yet to try dd'ing directly with natty [00:18] but with mavrick it did not work [00:35] navatwo: i've always had good luck with multisystem. installed kubuntu 10.10 with it [00:35] navatwo: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ [00:40] Axlin: I'll give it a shot :) === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === jonathon is now known as Kaleidoscope [02:24] James147: You here? [02:34] hi. I have removed gedit, yet it still appear in the "open with" context menu in dolphin, how can I make it disappear? === kaiyin is now known as 14WAA1SYT [02:34] hi, how can I get kubuntu to keep the screen resolution set in System Settings? I tried the xorg.conf and the xrandr methods but none worked [02:38] <14WAA1SYT> The_Journey: I have no probem changing resolution settings in Kubuntu 10.10 [02:39] <14WAA1SYT> The_Journey: why do you need xrandr to do that. [02:39] hello [02:39] <14WAA1SYT> The_Journey: it can be done in System Settings >> Hardware >> Display and Monitor. [02:40] I was wondering: how can you change the background image? [02:41] 14WAA1SYT: I tried that but Kubuntu keeps going back to 1360x768 instead of 1024x768 [02:43] <14WAA1SYT> The_Journey: did you click Accept configuration? [02:43] 14WAA1SYT: yes... [02:46] The_Journey: You might have to set it from the Konsole Using sudo [02:46] It seems like it's not writing it to memory [02:46] Kaleidoscope: how might I do that? [02:47] Not sure, I'm still kind of a newb [02:47] Hold up, I might can find out [02:49] The_Journey: sudo xrandr -s 1024 768 [02:49] try that [02:49] Oh wait [02:49] The_Journey: sudo xrandr -s 1024*768 [02:49] like that\ [02:53] Does anyone know if I can boot a CD from grub? [02:54] I think booting from a CD Bypasses grub, Grub is used to boot only currently installed OS's [02:55] It's a boot manager [02:55] it should be able to boot anything that's bootable shouldn't it? [02:55] No, It manages whatever you have installed [02:55] 509 error [02:55] bitch [02:56] The Bios handles booting from the CD [02:56] comment rejected [02:56] And the USB drives and the Hard drives [02:56] all of which GRUB can handle [02:56] http://cutecomputer.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/boot-cdrom-through-grub/ [02:56] Wheee :) [02:56] lol, ops wrong channel [02:57] XD I was gonna ask [03:06] Maco energy [03:06] You will lead us to the promised land [03:06] lol [03:23] Hi guys! I am trying to upgrade into Natty, but the process stalls after fetching the new repos... any ideas? [03:24] Are you 100% sure it stalls? Sometimes it'll look frozen when it's not [03:26] I'm gonna guess by the intense silence, Problem solved? [03:26] =P [03:28] Kaleidoscope: #ubuntu+1 is for Natty [03:28] I'm guessing some of us are running it, but a lot of us not yet [03:29] I know a regular here, very helpful person, who is still using 10.04 [03:29] is 10.10 natty? [03:29] Kaleidoscope: The window does not react [03:29] natty = 11.04. 10.10 = maverick [03:29] And nothing is printed to the console [03:29] Anyway, im doing it the old dist-upgrade way :D [03:30] Oh damn [03:30] Alright Drknzz [03:30] Kaleidoscope: Hope it suffices... i really look forward to enhancements in KDE/Gnome integrations brought in by Natty [03:31] I oughta upgrade, I'm runnin Maverick [03:31] =P [03:32] How do I upgrade? [03:33] Do I have to actually DL And burn a new disk and install that? [03:34] Kaleidoscope: Just run kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade [03:34] It may work [03:34] no, you can always try upgrade [03:34] plus, burning to a flashdrive is better [03:34] But if it freezes after repos, just run apt-get dist-upgrade [03:34] quicker [03:34] etc. [03:35] If I had a flashdrive, Then yes, But I don't <.< [03:35] valorie: No need to download ISO using my method [03:36] right [03:36] Hey there, I got a notification that I have updates and it says three of them are blocked. I did a bit of research and came up with http://paste.ubuntu.com/589509/ but still don't know how to get the updates. Any help is appreciated. [03:37] littlegirl: run aptitude upgrade [03:37] It will tell you why they are blocked [03:37] Will do. Hang on.. (: [03:38] Aptitude is a more verbose version of apt-get so treat it as such... dont use it all the time [03:38] Oi, I'll have to upgrade later, Can't dl atm [03:39] Drknzz: It does the same thing. Here's the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589510/ [03:40] Maybe you don't need those? [03:40] I won't. (: [03:40] No idea, but it's odd that it's mentioning them if it won't give them to me. (: [03:40] Mind you, as far as I can tell (and you can see in my first paste, I don't even actually have ffmpeg installed. (: [03:41] I also tried installing ffmpeg and kpackagekit told me ffmpeg wouldn't let ffmpeg get installed. [03:41] I prolly wouldn't worry about em then, Shouldn't affect you any [03:41] So just let it have those errors and ignore them? [03:41] Yea [03:42] Works for me, thanks! (: [03:42] Drknzz: What are the integrations in Natty? === AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan [03:45] Allen_: Better looks on gtk apps running on kde [03:47] Drknzz: Ah I see. oxygen-gtk ? [03:47] How do I upgrade to the latest java in Konsole? === SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC [03:57] Can I upgrade my java in Konsole? [04:16] I hate this channel at times.... [04:21] Someone seriously needs to clean out all those dead bodies in here XD [04:23] Kaleidoscope: What's the name of the Java you installed? [04:23] Which version do you want to upgrade to? [04:23] !java [04:23] To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [04:24] Oh good grief [04:25] Well It says I currently have version 6 update 20 installed, And I'm trying to get Update 24 [04:27] hi [04:27] can someone please tell me why my windows won't let me move them? :( [04:27] That's a new one =P [04:27] And Thanks for that liunk Allen, Think I got it workin now [04:27] Link* === sresu is now known as sre-su [04:42] so, anyone? any ideas? X_X [04:43] oh there's a move function in the toolbar that lets me move it [04:43] is still pretty annoying to not be able to drag+drop though [04:50] can someone please tell me why my windows won't let me move them? :( Try holding the alt down at the same time [04:52] soph1e: none of your windows will move? [04:52] i can't simply drag them, no [04:52] soph1e: can you press alt+F2 ? [04:52] sure, sec [04:52] and a box appears? [04:52] yes [04:53] what happens when i try to drag a window is that it makes it fullscreen [04:53] soph1e: ok in that box type kwin --replace [04:53] then press enter [04:54] what was the purpose of that? [04:55] soph1e: kick start your window manager [04:55] it's what allows you to move windows [04:56] well it didn't do anything [04:56] other than open all the windows i have [04:56] it just let me nudge the window a couple of times [04:56] but it always lets go after the same small length :/ [04:57] i can't drag windows to change their size either [04:58] i'm just going to restart and see if that fixes the problem :S [05:18] back [05:18] restart didn't help at all [05:18] only lost my tabs in chrome -_- [05:19] now it will let me drag windows [05:19] WTF? D: [05:20] and now not [05:20] fml === sresu_ is now known as sre-su === weecol_ is now known as weecol [06:04] hi i am new to kubuntu [06:05] help needed >>> http://paste.kde.org/8950/ [06:26] How do I update KPackageKit? [06:26] did you use sudo? [06:26] I don't know what command to use at all [06:26] I know I have to use sudo [06:26] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [06:26] ok thanks [06:26] sudo makes you "super user" for those tasks [06:27] How'd that term come about anyway? [06:28] I'm not sure [06:28] I'll definitely have to look that up later [06:28] probably because computers used to be 8-bit [06:29] and there wasn't a lot of space for extra letters [06:29] now you can use --debug instead of -d [06:29] they usually mean the same thing in a console or bash command [06:31] brb [06:32] oh, I forgot -- in kpk, just use the update button === kozz_ is now known as kozz [06:53] hello === Freejack is now known as Guest75633 === WindPower_ is now known as WindPower [07:22] o.o [07:22] ktorrent won't let me use anything [07:22] i'm trying to download another torrent client so i can get the stuff i need, but it won't let me download that -_- [07:23] everything i try to download, it says 'illegal token: #', # referring to some number instance of the falsely perceived issue [07:26] anyone? :/ [08:06] hi [08:15] Good morning ;} [08:23] good morning taz [08:23] how re you === chalced is now known as chalcedony [09:07] o.O [09:38] !netsplit [09:38] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === Freejack is now known as Guest60699 [09:49] Hi. When I start my Kubuntu installation it goes to this blue screen with the progress bar dots and it's running for minutes. I can't go to another terminal and I wonder how I can find out what's happening. [09:55] ysis: does the F1 button get you the text display? [09:56] moetunes: yes [09:57] ysis: and does that get you want you want [09:57] ? [09:59] moetunes: At least I can now switch to a terminal. Why the boot screen takes so long (maybe forever) is still unclear. Thanks, didn't know about this F1 thingy. [10:00] np [10:08] Buenos aires [10:09] isn't that a town? or a country? [10:18] lool [10:22] :P [11:04] hi, does anyone here have knowledge of php and perl programming? [11:04] if so, please take a look at http://forum.excito.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2898 === bLuCiFeR is now known as blu === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:18] hello what are the package needed to develop a kde app ? === beagleOCS is now known as faLUCE [12:31] gillesM: kdevelop [12:31] gillesM: qt-designer [12:38] peace I have that but kde-dev etc ... [12:54] i need to move a file in dolphin into home so i can use it, how to do so? ;d [13:03] hi there, since today I have troubles letting chromium run === mren|off is now known as mren [14:44] Hiyas folks [14:58] dbus-daemon using 98% of cpu??? [14:58] can I kill it? [14:59] htop shows it is dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print -address 7 --session ... [15:00] never mind, seems to have taken care of itself [15:15] hello, i need help with an internet problem in kubuntu 10.10 [15:16] !ask | juan_ [15:16] juan_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) === c is now known as Guest82448 === Guest82448 is now known as Rhizome === Rhizome is now known as Rhizomatic [15:18] ok, when i try get more content like wallpaper i get "Network error.(1)" === dark is now known as Guest31922 [15:25] hi everyone, i get some messages related to akonadi when i start Kontact: I get a dialog saying that "There have beed repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An application may be misbehaving". Also i get a dialog of akonadi's status. There i can see the last two lines of text having a red x-box next to them. The text lines are: 1) Current Akonadi control error log found, 2) Previous Akonadi control error log found. If i start [15:25] manually Akonadi before i start Kontact i get NO messages/dialogs. Is this some kind of wrongly configured scripts or anything that doesn't start Akonadi before Kontact opens up? Has anybody have any suggestions? Lot of ref in google but no conclusion so far. Can anybody help? [15:27] i solved that problem either, droping the content of a file, but i remember what file [15:28] juan_: what was the file? === meganerdca is now known as meganerd [15:30] i dont remember [15:30] anyone else? [15:31] 246 users! Are you all in the US? [15:32] no [15:33] i didn't think so :) [15:34] hello world! [15:35] Where can i post a screenshoot? [15:35] naftilos76, are you concerned about the error because you use akonadi , or just because it's an error period ? [15:36] i am concerned because i get dialogs informing about things that should normally not happen but they do happen === petete_ is now known as petete === bipolar_ is now known as bipolar [15:59] List Channels === petete_ is now known as petete [16:24] ор === petete_ is now known as petete [16:42] gwenview is not previewing svgz files (thumbnail view). How do I fix this? [16:43] Sounds like a compressed Scaled Vector Graphics file format. Perhaps Gwenview doesn't do vector graphics, maybe only raster graphics. [16:48] Amarok volume control problem. http://imagebin.org/146430 [16:56] DarthFrog: thanks. Gwenview handles vectors fine. The compressed vectors even display - just not the thumnails. [17:00] sgrover: Hmm, works for me. I see thumbnails of the svgz files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kword/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions/ === petete_ is now known as petete [17:03] #picasa [17:15] DarthFrog: so the question is why it doesn't work for me. What's different? (other than I don't have kword installed) [17:15] I did a ubuntu install then apt-get install kde4-desktop [17:15] So, I *should* have everything needed... [17:16] can the ubuntu one client be installed in kubuntu? [17:16] ayush_: any application in ubuntu can be install on kubuntu [17:16] sgrover: Try this "sudo updatedb". Once that is finished, do "locate svgz", which will fine all the svgz files on your system. Try gwenview on those svgz files *other* than the ones you have already been trying. [17:16] nice. thanks James147 [17:16] s/fine/find === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T [17:16] btw is 11.04 going to have its own versions of an ubuntu one client and the ubuntu software center? === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [17:16] ayush_: kubuntu uses kpackagekit ^^ dont think its going to get a port of the software center [17:16] James147: so if I install the ubuntu software center on kubuntu, will it work? [17:17] ayush_: yes ^^ though i have to ask whats wrong with kapckagekit or moun? === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal [17:19] DarthFrog: ok. looking at the svgz oxygen icons for an installed app (kdenlive) works. So why not the raw svgz oxygen icons from the subversion repository? Odd. [17:19] DarthFrog: maybe it's cuz I'm looking at em over an smb connection.. I'll try copying them local. [17:19] sgrover: It seems the problem is not with Gwenview. [17:19] agreed. [17:21] James147: correct me if i am wrong but kpackagekit is a kde version of synaptic, right? ubuntu software center has additional things such as the ability to add reviews, paid apps etc.. === Riddelll is now known as Riddell === petete_ is now known as petete [17:23] ayush_: hmm, didnt know software center did paided apps yet ^^ [17:38] DarthFrog: so the problem seems to be when viewing files via a network connection. Local files work fine. Noted and I can move on now. :) Thanks for the support. === petete_ is now known as petete === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [17:44] sgrover: You're welcome. And thanks for reporting back, it might help others. [17:45] :) that's the way you're *supposed* to do things... report the solution so others can benefit.... === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [17:54] OK, I'm braindead this morning. I want to rename all files in a directory from to . Being braindead (for tax reasons, you understand), I can't figure out how to do this. Any suggestions? [17:56] Hmm, it looks like the rename command will be useful. How surprising. :-) [17:57] DarthFrog: also look at krename ^^ a very advanced renaming too l:) [17:57] James147: Tnx. [18:11] James147: OK, I like krename. :-) === Phoenix][ is now known as Specialist [18:15] does anyone know how I can get flash player working in kubuntu natty? [18:17] frank: Doesn't it work [18:17] !natty | frank [18:17] frank: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [18:18] nope, it says I have to download the plugin, while I have flash-plugin-nonfree installed in synaptic [18:18] I know... could wait [18:18] I couldn't sorry [18:19] frank: :) [18:19] frank: Which browser? [18:19] firefox [18:20] frank: Weard. It should work. I'm not on Natty, so I wouldn't know for sure [18:21] frank: You tried "flasplugin-installer"? [18:21] *flashplugin-installer [18:21] is already installed..... [18:21] o.o [18:21] Try installing the flash-aid plugin for firefox [18:22] there is an option on the flash site to install a linux version through a tarball but i don't know how [18:22] ok! [18:24] hmmm cannot find it in synaptic, is there a website or something? [18:25] frank: Firefox plugins = google it, it's in firefox plugins [18:25] /extensions/w/e === petete_ is now known as petete [18:28] hmm, strange, i installed it but the site with the video keeps me forwarding to the flash site to download the tarball [18:29] frank: Weeard [18:31] Hello, I'm copying a large amount of data, and wonders why the disk write speed of my hard drive peaks like showing on this image? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/502768/Disk%20IO.png [18:31] anybody got a clue? [18:31] ok, so the tarball contains a .so file, anyone knows how to install that? [18:32] frank: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/ [18:33] howtoo: because writes are buffered [18:34] you write X amount of bytes, and the kernel periodically flushes to the disk [18:34] ok, so it's nothing to worry about then? [18:34] it's exactly what should happen :) [18:34] ah, okay, thanks =) === petete_ is now known as petete === meganerdca is now known as meganerd [19:11] does somebody know when the bug in kmail that when you copy some test you actually copy the html code of the mail, gets fixed? [19:13] asraniel: there's a work around, if you're not already aware [19:13] i'm not! please tell me :) [19:13] marxjohnson: because its really annoying.. [19:14] asraniel: Just trying to fidn the setting... [19:15] Settings -> Configure Kmail -> Security -> Prefer HTML To Plain Text [19:15] untick it === petete_ is now known as petete [19:17] Hello [19:18] I have installed Kubuntu on my Lenovo laptop. It works pretty ok, but when I try to log out, it gives me just black screen... [19:18] What could be the problem? [19:20] image [19:20] !image === s is now known as Guest40485 === petete_ is now known as petete [19:42] !it| Peace- [19:42] Peace-, please see my private message [19:46] is there way to sync rekonq bookmarks to a cloud? [19:47] http://www.delicious.com/ [19:49] ayush_: delicious is a nice service =) [19:50] epzil0n: delicious has a rekonq extension? === amichairo is now known as amichair [19:53] something seems to be eating cpu, and then backing down, it is driving me crazy, I took this screen shot a few minutes ago, when htop didn't report heavy cpu usage, but the widget was reporting very high cpu usage, and the computer was sluggish [19:54] where can I post a screenshot? [19:54] ayush_: don't know, there is one for firefox tho [20:00] shane4ubuntu1: there is a pastebin widget [20:00] anyway [20:00] !imagebin [20:00] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [20:01] Peace-: ahhh, imagebin! great, thanks! [20:08] http://imagebin.org/146760 ok, if someone wants to take a look and let me know what you think. [20:10] htop, and top both report low cpu, while that widget thing on the desktop, reports high cpu usage, and the computer gets sluggish, I thought this AM when happened, it was an update or something (hadn't rebooted in 6 days) so I rebooted, but it happened again. [20:11] shane4ubuntu1: what does ksysguard report? === petete_ is now known as petete [20:12] Daskreech: howdy! :) where is ksysguard again? the alt-f2 thing clicking on the graph thing? [20:12] That didn't report anything when I had the problem, since then the cpu has dropped back to a normal usage level. [20:12] yeah or typing kysysguard [20:12] Or system monitor [20:13] calling it explictly gets you more options [20:13] yeah, it is weird to have this going on. [20:13] ahh, yeah ,that does give more options. [20:13] CTL-Esc === mirppc is now known as Mir_ppc [20:15] I don't know what the widget is reporting in the screen shot, but seems to have picked up the problem, just doesn't seem to give any details. [20:18] shane4ubuntu1: So Ksysguard is reporting the same as htop etc? [20:19] Daskreech: yep, same, no real indication, but the computer drags, and music skips. [20:19] * Daskreech is always amused that the CPU meter drawing in SVG is normally the highest CPU using process [20:19] yes, I know, that always amazes me too, wish they would make a light weight cpu usage monitor, that was visual. [20:24] htop? :) [20:24] doesn't seem to report it either [20:24] wait, it is ksysguard is now reporting virtuoso-t as the culprit. [20:25] as now is htop, but that wasn't the case before, or didn't seem to be. [20:28] now, ksysguard is still reporting virtuoso and htop is not??? [20:28] must be that virtuoso, I enabled it because I heard it was fixed, but it drags my cpu to a slow crawl, I even lowered the memory usage of it. [20:30] why doesn't nepomuk and strigi know to work when no one is using the cpu [20:32] shane4ubuntu1: It probably does. [20:33] well, it should be that is two or three times since I re-enabled it a few days ago, that it drags my desktop to a crawl, and music skips while I'm setting here working. [20:53] shane4ubuntu: how much is it crawling? [20:54] how much data, or how much cpu? 41% of cpu [20:54] I have a lot of junk on my disk. [20:54] I just disabled it. [20:55] shane4ubuntu: ah having junk might explain that :) [20:55] Daskreech: well, a lot of files, pictures, mp3 etc. [20:56] Yah it's pulling metadata from all of that I would suppose === meganerdca is now known as meganerd [21:00] does anyone have any experience with BIOS set up? My MOBO has stopped working wrt LAN networks... :( === petete_ is now known as petete === massimo is now known as Guest69585 === petete_ is now known as petete === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [21:36] will the gnome ubuntu one client work in kubuntu (the same way as it does in ubuntu)? === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === meganerdca is now known as meganerd === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === meganerdca is now known as meganerd === millun_ is now known as millun [23:09] ok, when i try get more content like wallpaper i get "Network error.(1)" <<< i was solved that [23:10] droping the content of this file : /etc/network/interfaces === mren is now known as mren|off [23:37] I have a silly question. I'm running 11.04 (ubuntu) and I'm really hating the new look and feel. Can I switch from Ubuntu 11.04 to Kubuntu 11.04 without having to re-install from the CD? And without breaking a bunch of stuff? [23:42] xptical: install kubuntu-desktop and you will have gnome and kde installed ^^ and 11.04 questions should really be directed to #ubuntu+1 [23:42] hey everyone! [23:42] oops. sorry. I figured it was that easy. Just switch at the login screen? [23:42] xptical: though its beta and thus may or may not break horribally :) [23:43] yeppers [23:51] I really think I'm just going back to Debian and LXDE or IceWM. I loved KDE, then GNOME. As of late, I'm just really hating Ubuntu overall. [23:51] ubuntu loves you [23:52] I know. And *so* much stuff just works [23:52] But I really hate the way the 11.04 release feels [23:53] I've not gotten it. Why's it so bad? [23:54] I cant speak for Kubuntu, but the vanilla release just feels...distant [23:55] anyone know is it possible to backup my grub configuration?? [23:55] Like it doesn't want me around anymore [23:55] It's strange [23:55] xptical: then try kubuntu :) [23:56] My first install was RedHat back in the late 1990s. And now I just feel like I'm not in control anymore [23:56] I've built LFS and Gentoo, used Solaris, RedHat, Mandrake, Fedora, Debian, Slack, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, etc... [23:57] And I feel like a complete noob here with 11.04 [23:57] *shrug* there's lots of distros for a reason [23:57] I'm downloading Kubuntu now. Haven't seen a KDE desktop in years. Maybe it'll work out [23:58] S74rk7: grub configuration resides here: /boot/grub/grub.cfg but why would you do that? If you lose your partition you should have somting else to worry about than grub :3 [23:58] * James147 notes that kde has improved ALLOT in the last few years :) and he see no sign of it slowing yet [23:58] I really just want my desktop to get out of the way and let me work. I think 10.10 was almost perfect for that [23:59] Last KDE I saw was, maybe 2.something