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wgrantYou fail at apostrophes.00:00
lifelessyes, yes I do.00:01
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poolieis there a ui for changing branch privacy, if you have access to use private branches?00:11
lifelessyes00:13
lifelessyou can unhide a private branch00:13
lifelessyou can't hide a public branch00:14
pooliehow do you create a private branch then?00:15
lifelesstwo ways00:16
lifelesseither a privacy policy for a team you are in that says private-by-default [or always-private] or00:17
lifelesscreate an empty branch and ask a losa to privatise it00:17
lifelessthese are both a bit awkward00:17
lifelesswe may overhaul this during the upcoming disclosure and privacy work00:17
ftawgrant, hi, did you have a chance to look at the stats problem yesterday?00:18
lifelessone of the challenges is bzr not being deeply integrated here - if you have a context where you /might want/ privacy, it would be nice to say '--private' or add a fake path element or something to get it private and tell LP what privacy group to grant access to the branch00:18
ftawgrant, btw, i fixed my script. should work with both ff4 and ch now00:19
pooliethat would be nice00:19
lifelessremember that we permit different groups to have private branches in the same namespace - and they can either have partitioned membership or overlapping - both are supported00:19
poolieif there was an api to control it, we could add a ui for it00:19
wgrantfta: Sorry, lots of other stuff came up :/00:19
wgrantfta: I'll try to get to it today.00:19
lifelessthe experience of pushing to a branch that lp 'knows' about but doesn't exist is pretty poor at the moment00:19
lifelessso I think it would be nice to have a create-branch verb that knows how to talk about this00:20
poolieare losas involved because they do direct db access; or because they're a human sanity check; or ...?00:20
lifeless(as well as not requiring launchpadlib chatter during initial push)00:20
lifelesspoolie: ... [I don't know]00:20
Chexlifeless: you are on RC mode, with DEVEL closed now.00:20
ftawgrant, ok, n-p. do you still see the long legend in my page?00:20
lifelessChex: right, we want to be unrc'd00:20
wgrantfta: Ah, that's much better. Yesterday it showed *every* package in the one graph.00:22
ftawgrant, weird, i should have been like that for only a few minutes 2 days ago, maybe you had the old js in cache or something00:24
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marvin2Hi, is the launchpad site down? I'm getting timeouts.04:32
wgrantmarvin2: Which pages?04:35
wgrantIt's working OK for me.04:35
EvilPhoenixworks fine for me too04:37
pooliewhat's the deal atm for getting spam removed?05:20
pooliei saw some bug updates from jcs05:20
poolieask a losa still?05:20
wgrantpoolie: Bugs we (or you) can do.05:21
pooliedo you mean, removing the whole bug?05:21
wgrantQuestions still needs a LOSA, but the necessary DB changes are being rolled out tomorrow night.05:21
wgrantBug comments.05:21
poolieah, quite clearly it's an existing valid account that was compromised05:21
spmquestions can't be done at all atm05:21
wgrantWhich account?05:21
pooliewgrant, oh, how?05:21
wgrantpoolie: There's no UI yet, but the API is there and accessible to ~registry.05:22
wgrantAnd will be for comments in a week or so too.05:22
poolieis there a cli to drive it?05:22
pooliehttps://launchpad.net/~starplant is the troublesome account05:23
pooliehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-windows-installers/+bug/341465 is an example05:23
ubot5Ubuntu bug 341465 in Bazaar Windows Installers "bzr linked version of msvcrt.dll is missing" [High,Invalid]05:23
wgrantThere's no common script, no.05:23
wgrantI think I saw a question about that account...05:23
wgrantOh.05:23
poolie>  will be for comments in a week or so too.05:23
wgrantNo, I hid all his comments last week, I thought.05:24
wgrantAre there more?05:24
poolieso what is there an api for now?05:24
pooliethere are05:24
wgrantpoolie: Will be for *questions*, sorry.05:24
pooliehe did make some valid comments a year ago05:24
EvilPhoenixwhat're the requirements to run an instance of the launchpad source?05:24
wgrantpoolie: Hmm, no comments since the 1st AFAICT.05:24
pooliegreat peace of mind05:24
poolieEvilPhoenix, also, see dev.launchpad.net/Running05:24
poolienup, but several that day05:24
wgrantpoolie: Are any of them still there?05:25
poolieyes, there's one on the page i just sent you05:25
wgrantI disposed of 12 of them last week, and I see no more now.05:25
poolieunless you removed it just now05:25
wgrantHmmm.05:25
pooliealso bug 23566805:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 235668 in Bazaar GTK+ Frontends "seahorse crashes on import" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23566805:25
wgrantOh.05:25
wgrantIt would help if I looked for *all* his commented bugs, not just the open ones.05:25
poolieheh05:26
wgrantFixing, thanks.05:26
pooliehaha05:26
pooliei'd actually rather learn how to fish in this case05:26
pooliehow are you fixing them?05:26
EvilPhoenixpoolie:  thanks05:26
wgrantWell, it could be far more automated, but I just have a script a couple of lines long that takes a bug and comment number, shows it, asks for confirmation, and calls bug.setCommentVisibility(comment_number=n, visible=False)05:27
poolieok05:28
pooliei know i could rewrite that script but how about if you put it into say the lp tree?05:28
poolieor a new lp-admin-clients project or something05:28
pooliei'll suspend the account i guess05:30
poolieor deactivate it?05:30
lifelesssinzui was going to get this in the web UI05:30
pooliethat would be nice05:31
wgrantpoolie: No need.05:31
wgrantIt was a one-off email spam incident.05:31
wgrantAh, already done I see.05:32
wgrantAt least we can unsuspend them now.05:32
wgrantI'll set it back to deactivated.05:32
wgrantSince we can't reactivate it like this.05:32
wgrantBut this will let the user log in.05:32
poolieoh i see05:33
pooliehow do you know it was email spam?05:34
wgrantWell, I don't know for sure, but it was a single incident all at the one time, and hasn't happened again.05:35
wgrantI don't think suspending for that is useful.05:35
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pooliei guess if it was ongoing it would continue until the account was suspended05:40
wgrantRight.05:40
wgrantIf it's ongoing then we should suspend.05:40
wgrantpoolie: Anyway, that's all of them gone, for real this time.05:42
pooliehow can the 'tags' portlet show a tag and then find no bugs?07:57
spivpoolie: maybe it's an official tag?07:58
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lifelesspoolie: it shows tags from all bugs ever08:17
lifelesspoolie: which is why its so busy and useless08:17
pooliei see08:26
poolieif i scratched an itch by making it show in huw's simpler layout just the official tags do you think that would be accepted?08:26
poolie(this is a bit hypothetical as my queue is already in train)08:26
pooliei mean full08:27
lifelesspersonally08:30
lifelessI value the emergent nature of tag clouds08:31
lifelessI would not like to see officil tags onlyt08:31
pooliehow about showing, in a decent layout, all the in-use tags then?08:43
pooliei guess, those in use on open bugs08:43
poolieperhaps truncated to say 5008:44
lifelesspoolie: if I had time to hack on it, the first thing I'd do is measure how long it takes to determine 'in use tags' on e.g. Ubuntu08:53
lifelesspoolie: and use that to guide further decisions about what to do08:53
pooliegood idea08:55
mok0ls09:01
lifeless. ..09:01
mrevellMorning09:09
mok0mrevell: Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!09:29
mrevellheh :) Thanks mok009:29
mok0(cf. Truman :-)09:29
mrevellSuperb film.09:29
mok0mrevell: indeed :-)09:36
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EisNerdmoin10:34
EisNerdsomeone here who can have a look for my lp account?10:35
EisNerdthere is something wrong10:35
EisNerdwgrant: according to topic maybe you?10:35
wgrantEisNerd: What's your Launchpad username?10:35
EisNerdgot the message?10:36
wgrantYeah.10:36
wgrantThat account has never been used.10:36
EisNerdbecause I can't login10:37
EisNerdand can't reset password10:37
wgrantOh?10:37
EisNerdit exists since when?10:37
wgrantWhat happens when you try?10:37
EisNerdyesterday or longer10:38
wgrantWhere are you trying to log in? What does it say if you try to log in?10:38
EisNerdbecause I tried to create it yesterday but never got this verification mail10:38
EisNerdhttps://login.launchpad.net/10:38
EisNerdsays "Passwort stimmt nicht überein"10:39
wgrantCould you ask at https://forms.canonical.com/lp-login-support/?10:39
EisNerddamn javascript sides10:39
EisNerdok10:42
EisNerdhm ok where is this member of the gsst?10:45
wgrantWhat do you mean?10:46
EisNerd;)10:46
EisNerdthe message after submitting the request10:46
EisNerd "A member of the Global Support Services team will be in touch shortly to discuss your needs."10:46
wgrantAh, right.10:46
EisNerdso where is this member I have to discuss this with10:47
EisNerdok afk10:48
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purpleKarrotHi, I have a question about binary-indep packages in PPAs. The packages are built on i386 only (which is intended). But the generated packages then should be available on all architectures.11:48
purpleKarrotAnd they are not.11:49
purpleKarrotDo I have to configure somehow that the packages are copied to other architectures?11:50
wgrantpurpleKarrot: Are the packages you generate in binary-indep set as Architecture: all?11:50
purpleKarrot(checking)11:51
purpleKarrotno, they are set to 'any'. should I set them to 'all'?11:52
sorenyes11:52
wgrantYes, or they will be built for i386 only.11:52
purpleKarrotOK, thanks! I will try that.11:52
bigjoolsany/all is so damn confusing11:55
wgrantNot so much confusing as badly named.11:55
bigjoolshence confusing :)11:56
bigjoolsI still keep getting them the wrong way around after 4 years11:56
EisNerdwgrant: still noone contacted me12:00
wgrantEisNerd: It's only been 90 minutes...12:00
EisNerdoh yesterday when I tried to reset the password I got already a message that it was recorded and will be handled asap12:03
wgrantOh, really? That sounds worse than I thought.12:03
EisNerdwgrant: I could try to reset it again and gove you detailed informations if it occurs again12:04
EisNerdif not and all is fine I would also be satisfied12:05
wgrantEisNerd: login.launchpad.net is actually maintained by the Ubuntu SSO (login.ubuntu.com) team, not the Launchpad team, so I can't really help you directly. I'd wait for a response to the form you filled in earlier. If you don't have one within a day or so, poke me and I'll poke them for you.12:06
EisNerdok thx12:07
EisNerduh is there another way to login into launchpad?12:07
wgrantNot yet.12:08
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dbmmy bad13:00
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idnarhey, I thought Launchpad accepted DKIM signatures in lieu of OpenPGP; am I confused, or am I doing something wrong? (my mail to new@ bounced)13:56
wgrantidnar: Only from some domains for now (gmail.com being one), and it's not precisely bug-free yet.13:57
idnarah, I'm using a Google Apps domain :(13:58
jmlidnar: bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bugs?field.tag=dkim13:58
wgrantidnar: We'll probably open it up a bit more once we've ironed out the bugs.13:59
wgrant(and worked out what a sane policy is)14:00
idnarI read some tickets, but I guess I missed the part where only explicitly-whitelisted domains were accepted14:01
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ftauh? is this new? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/68312726/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.compiz_1%3A0.9.4git20110322-0ubuntu6~fta2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz16:07
ftait worked last week16:08
jcsackettone second, fta, i'm looking at the log.16:11
ftait's a log checker16:12
ftabut i didn't touch those files16:12
maxbThat has definitely existed for some time16:17
micahgjcsackett: bug 750528 was filed due to the plain text nature of the timeout, not the fact that it timed out16:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 750528 in Launchpad itself "Got a plaintext 504 timeout (dup-of: 438116)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75052816:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 438116 in Launchpad itself "Timeout when converting bug into question (BugTask:+create-question)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43811616:21
jcsackettmicahg: dig, correcting.16:21
micahgjcsackett: thanks16:21
ftamaxb, but it didn't impact my previous upload, nor does it impact the official builds, why?16:21
micahgjcsackett: sorry, I should've been more verbose in the description :)16:22
jcsackettmicahg: no worries. it's fixed now, and updated to indicate the actual issue more strongly. :-)16:23
maxbfta: Well, the relevant compiler warnings did not appear in your build that succeeded.16:50
maxbSince your package has not changed, I would be inclined to investigate possible toolchain changes in natty in the time between the builds16:50
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leoquantafter a revoke ui which is in the terminal revuid the uid key is revoked, but after a serverupload/synch. the revoked uid is still present in launchpad18:46
leoquantis there a solution for this?18:46
leoquantseahorse gives the same results....imo there no way to remove revoked uids from launchpad18:47
jcsackettleoquant: i'm afraid i may be a little confused. you're trying to revoke a gpg key on launchpad? (i'm assuming, based on seahorse reference)18:54
leoquantjcsackett, via terminal and seahorse a uid can be revoked from the man key/emailadres18:56
leoquantbut after syncht that to the server the revoked emailadres is still visible18:57
geserleoquant: do you try to "delete" an uid from your key?18:57
leoquantrev oke geser18:58
leoquantyes18:58
geser"revoke": mark the uid as no longer in use18:59
geseryou can't remove that uid from your key completely only mark it as invalid (revoke)18:59
leoquantyes, but i expected the emailadres/uid to be removed as weel in launchpad19:00
leoquant(nwe keyboard sorry)19:00
geserah, you marked your uid as revoked, uploaded that key and expected that LP removed that uid from your LP page automatically? I don't know if LP can do it19:01
leoquantseahorse has a "remove" option, even enigmail19:01
leoquantyes indeed19:01
leoquantok geser19:02
geserleoquant: you can remove a uid from your (local) key, but that doesn't work for keys on keyservers as keyservers have no auth so only can merge new key information19:02
leoquantok, understood.19:04
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jcsackettleoquant: if you want to remove/edit email address data on lp, you can use launchpad.net/<yourusername>/+editemails19:04
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leoquantjcsackett, yes but i dont want to remove the complete string of emailaderesses, that  should remove my main pgp key19:06
leoquantonly one which i do not use19:07
leoquantbut that adress is revoked19:07
leoquantthe only thing is to remove the pgp key completely which is  linked to my ubuntu.com/launchpad account19:09
leoquantbut its ok now19:09
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mantyhi!19:45
mantyI'm trying to subscribe on launchpad with my debian.org email address but I'm not getting any mails from the system, any problems there?19:45
jcsackettmanty: what's your username on launchpad?19:48
mantyyou mean my email?19:49
mantymanty@debian.org19:49
jcsackettah, manty, i think i misunderstood. you do not have an account on launchpad, you're just trying to subscribe to a list?19:50
mantyI wanted to register on launchpad to comment on a bug19:50
mantyI don't think they asked me for a login for that19:51
mantyjust my name, the email and a password I seem to remember19:51
mantyit was a while ago, I've been trying to see if the mail had been locked in any of my servers since then19:51
jcsackettmanty: how long ago?19:53
mantyjcsackett: well, about 15 minutes or a little more maybe19:54
jcsackettand are you waiting on mail related to the bug, or related to registering?19:54
mantyto registering19:54
mantythe system says that I've been sent an email to my debian.org address to verify that it is mine19:54
mantythe mail with the code to fill in the web19:55
jcsackettmanty: it may have been lost in spam or something on your end then; there shouldn't be any problems.19:56
jcsackettmanty: you can also use https://forms.canonical.com/lp-login-support/ for support with registering/logging in to launchpad.19:56
mantyjcsackett: could be but then grep launchpad.net /var/log/mail.log19:57
mantyshould return something19:57
mantyand it doesn't19:57
mantyunless debian.org is rejecting launchpad.net mails19:57
mantyor launchpad.net is having problems in sending them19:58
jcsackettmanty: i was just able to get a confirmation email sent to me, so i don't believe launchpad is having any problems sending the email out.20:01
jcsackettmanty: i'm seeing if there's anything else on our end that might be an issue.20:02
mantyI think I'm going to mail feedback@launchpad20:02
mantyjcsackett: can you see if mail has been sent to manty@debian.org recently?20:02
mantyand if it was rejected or something?20:03
mantyI can try to subscribe with my personal address but I'd rather use debian's20:04
jcsackettmanty: you can add different addresses once you're signed up, and change which email is your preferred.20:05
mantyI see20:05
mantyjcsackett: I'll try that then, but it looks to me that if there is a problem mailing debian.org now I'll have the same problem later on20:05
jcsackettmanty: true; but at least in the interim you'll be able to be involved in the bug you were interested in.20:06
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mantyyes20:08
mantythis one arrived20:08
mantywithout any problem20:08
jcsackettmanty: excellent.20:08
mantyand the machine receiving it is the same one as the debian.org mail20:08
mantyexcept for it traversing the debian.org systems20:08
mantyI know debian.org is working as I got mail recently20:09
jcsackettmanty, i see also that there is a ~manty that was created automatically a package was initially imported, with your email address. https://launchpad.net/~manty20:09
jcsackettis that likely to be you?20:09
mantymaybe20:12
mantyI was trying to add the debian.org mail address20:12
mantyand it told me that it was in use20:13
mantythe weird thing is that it didn't told me so when trying to create the debian.org account before20:13
sinzuimanty: the address could have been imported from a changelog20:13
sinzuimanty: You can search https://launchpad.net/people for the address. You want to merge that user into you current profile20:14
sinzuiLp will send an email to that address to confirm you control it20:14
mantysinzui: I have already changed the password and gathered control to the debian.org account20:15
mantybut I'd say it's a bug not to inform the guy after all the process that the email already has an account for it20:16
mantyand instead tell him that a mail has been sent20:16
mantywhen it hasn't20:16
sinzuimanty: yes. We are working on changing the merge rules this week so that users can reliably do this.20:17
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vadi2My import of a git branch failed for a funny reason (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/68344638/vperetokin-mudlet-trunk.log). Did I provide it the wrong URL? The UI did accept it...20:43
maxb_"The remote server unexpectedly closed the connection.20:58
maxb_could just be a transient remote problem20:58
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askhlHi.  I'm trying to copy a PPA from Maverick to Natty within same PPA.  I get "The following source cannot be copied:" and "gpaw 0.7.6974-1~ppa1 in maverick (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)".  It's here: https://launchpad.net/~campos-dev/+archive/campos/22:01
askhl(In this case I chose 'rebuild binaries', but I get a similar error, something about 'already has binaries', if I attempt 'copy binaries')22:02
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timrcwgrant: Thanks, for working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/75064022:18
ubot5Ubuntu bug 750640 in Launchpad itself "If the source version differs from the binary version, it is not specified in the Package index for that binary" [High,Fix committed]22:18
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