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| ikonia | heads up to the bug squard, this bug isn't a problem for me, but I was trying to work through a situation with a user with pretty much the same problem and found this bug | 09:20 |
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| ikonia | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/580206 | 09:21 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 580206 in yelp (Ubuntu) "gnome-help crashed (segmentation fault) while printing (affects: 5) (heat: 20)" [Medium,New] | 09:21 |
| ikonia | as the bug team, have a read through it, it's been handled pretty badly - from an end users perspective it looks like people are trying to find a reason to get rid of it, rather than deal with it | 09:21 |
| ikonia | it's still in a poor state | 09:21 |
| VladbIka | Hi All. Can I write about bugs in beta 11.04 here? | 10:52 |
| TeTeT | VladbIka: sure, though I don't know if it's of much use. Best is if you report and comment bugs on Launchpad and only if things are unclear you can discuss them here | 10:54 |
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| penguin42 | is there a reference bug for /usr/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/.mo clashing between gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ? There are a whole load of package instal fails for the same reason on the list of latest bugs | 14:05 |
| * penguin42 has duped 3 of them into bug 751264 | 14:07 | |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 751264 in gst-plugins-ugly0.10 (Ubuntu) "package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.17-1 failed to install/upgrade: Versuch, »/usr/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/.mo« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.21-1ubuntu10 ist (affects: 4) (dups: 3) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751264 | 14:07 |
| jpds | penguin42: I've been dupping them all into bug #751343. | 15:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 751343 in gst-plugins-ugly0.10 (Ubuntu) "package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.17-1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/.mo', which is also in package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.21-1ubuntu10 (affects: 37) (dups: 33) (heat: 282)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751343 | 15:06 |
| jpds | penguin42: Problem has been fixed though. | 15:06 |
| penguin42 | jpds: Yeh I just saw your message in -devels | 15:06 |
| somethinginteres | I got the following output on natty when running the update manager just now http://paste.ubuntu.com/589701/ I am not sure what package to report this against and what I should include in the report | 15:08 |
| jpds | somethinginteres: bug #751343. | 15:09 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 751343 in gst-plugins-ugly0.10 (Ubuntu) "package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.17-1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES/.mo', which is also in package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.21-1ubuntu10 (affects: 38) (dups: 34) (heat: 290)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751343 | 15:09 |
| somethinginteres | jpds: ah I see. Thanks | 15:10 |
| penguin42 | jpds: Nothing like a popular bug :-) | 15:12 |
| matsubara | hi there. I just updated to Ubuntu 11.04 and am using Unity. I'm seeing some font overlap issue in a terminal <http://ubuntuone.com/p/kzM/>. It happens on gnome-terminal and terminator with multiple tabs open. is this known? | 15:13 |
| penguin42 | matsubara: I'm not seeing that - what font are you using? | 15:14 |
| matsubara | penguin42, Ubuntu | 15:14 |
| penguin42 | matsubara: Is that fixed width? | 15:15 |
| matsubara | penguin42, yep, Ubuntu font for all my font settings including fixed width | 15:16 |
| penguin42 | matsubara: I don't think the ubuntu font is a fixed width font | 15:16 |
| matsubara | penguin42, thanks. that was it. I choose a fixed width one and it now looks fine. | 15:33 |
| matsubara | looks fine | 15:33 |
| penguin42 | no prob | 15:33 |
| somethinginteres | Am getting some crashes on Natty but the bug reports Ubuntu wants me to send are around 350MB each, far too large for my internet connection is there a way to send a smaller report, no smaller option is offered | 16:30 |
| MadCow108 | what crashes? | 16:33 |
| somethinginteres | MadCow108: the last case was Nautilus but another was aptd | 16:35 |
| MadCow108 | you can run the program under gdb or valgrind to get similar information | 16:37 |
| MadCow108 | gdb ./program, when it crashes, bt full | 16:37 |
| somethinginteres | MadCow108: I'm not familiar with gdb or valgrind will have to look into them, thanks | 16:37 |
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| MadCow108 | are you using natty? I always get the option to send a small report | 16:40 |
| somethinginteres | MadCow108: yep. Natty Beta 1 | 16:43 |
| hggdh | somethinginteres: have you updated your natty to current? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 16:44 |
| hggdh | since beta-1 we have had many updates | 16:44 |
| somethinginteres | hggdh: I ran the update-manager but will execute those commands to be sure | 16:45 |
| hggdh | somethinginteres: be careful that no needed package gets removed | 16:45 |
| somethinginteres | hggdh: how can I prevent that from occuring? | 16:45 |
| hggdh | somethinginteres: after you issue the dist-upgrade, read the output to see if anything will be removed. If it appears so, pastebin the whole command output here | 16:46 |
| somethinginteres | hggdh: appears there's nothing being removed just 13 package upgrades. Thanks for the heads up. Should I always run from the terminal or would update-manager also find these upgrades normally and they just appeared after I last refreshed the package information? | 16:48 |
| hggdh | somethinginteres: updating on a devel release should always be done with care; update-manager would also find these updates after an apt-get update | 16:49 |
| somethinginteres | hggdh: OK, thank you | 16:50 |
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| gnomefreak | ok what package do i file a bu on for preffered apps dialog. i know that each package should have a setting to be placed in there but on the browsers/email tab it doesnt offer custom so i was going to file a separate bug for the "custom" bug and the package bug | 17:43 |
| gnomefreak | s/bu/bug | 17:43 |
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| charlie-tca__ | gnomefreak: it Ubuntu, the package is gconf | 17:49 |
| charlie-tca__ | but it is different for each distro. | 17:50 |
| seb128 | gnomefreak, don't open that bug | 17:53 |
| leoquant | after a revoke ui which is in the terminal revuid the uid key is revoked, but after a serverupload/synch. the revoked uid is still present in launchpad | 17:57 |
| leoquant | seahorse gives the same results....imo there no way to remove revoked uids from launchpad | 17:58 |
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| om26er | which package should this bug be assigned to ? | 18:03 |
| om26er | bug 748151 | 18:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 748151 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) ""Safely Remove" USB drive works great, but is remounted immediately (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/748151 | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca__ | om26er: udev, I think | 18:07 |
| om26er | moved thanks charlie-tca__ | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca__ | You are welcome | 18:09 |
| somethinginteres | Ubuntu isn't respecting prefered web browser. I set it to Chromium in Chromium Preferences and upon exit the prefered app returns to the default setting of Firefox. Where should I report this? | 18:13 |
| micahg | somethinginteres: already reported, looking for number | 18:14 |
| micahg | somethinginteres: bug 670128 | 18:16 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 670128 in xdg-utils (Fedora) (and 4 other projects) "gnome-open uses firefox while it's not the preferred browser (affects: 23) (dups: 6) (heat: 155)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670128 | 18:16 |
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| somethinginteres | micahg: no problem. I try to use my search foo but it's just not up to par :) | 18:20 |
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| gnomefreak | seb128: dont open a bug on that problem? | 18:27 |
| seb128 | gnomefreak, what about that? | 18:27 |
| gnomefreak | this isnt for me someone else was wanting info on it so an already standing bug would be great | 18:27 |
| gnomefreak | seb128: preffered apps not listing apps nor custom | 18:27 |
| seb128 | gnomefreak, what is your question exactly | 18:27 |
| seb128 | right, that's a GNOME design decision | 18:28 |
| gnomefreak | seb128: he wants to know why thunderbird isnt listed in preffered... | 18:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ^ | 18:28 |
| seb128 | why is that still not fixed? | 18:28 |
| gnomefreak | seb128: oh, afaik we added something to the tb3.3 package to list it in there and it is listed | 18:28 |
| seb128 | so what are you saying? | 18:28 |
| gnomefreak | but not the default tb package | 18:28 |
| seb128 | what is the default package and why is it not fixed? | 18:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i just haven't done an upload with the fix in yet ;) | 18:29 |
| gnomefreak | seb128: only the 3.3 package of tb is listed. that is from daily PPA | 18:29 |
| seb128 | gnomefreak, ok, known issue then, it will be fixed for natty | 18:29 |
| gnomefreak | thanks seb chrisccoulson | 18:29 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no, tb 3.3 uses gio I think | 18:29 |
| micahg | whereas tb 3.1 still uses gnome-vfs | 18:30 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: well i remember tellioong chrisccoulson about it and within a few days it was listed | 18:30 |
| gnomefreak | telling | 18:30 |
| gnomefreak | ok i will tell fool.... about it. thanks guys | 18:30 |
| chrisccoulson | note, that setting the default client from *within* thunderbird is unlikely to work in natty. i just don't see how i'm going to get time to backport all of the gio changes to make that work properly | 18:30 |
| chrisccoulson | but setting it from gnome-default-application-properties will work | 18:31 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: probably not worth it since in ~2-3 months we'll be updating to 3.3 | 18:31 |
| chrisccoulson | well, it doesn't work there either ;) | 18:31 |
| chrisccoulson | although, it needs less patches to make it work | 18:31 |
| * micahg thought 3.3 was using gio, guess not | 18:32 | |
| chrisccoulson | it can, but it doesn't work properly | 18:32 |
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| Tetsuo55 | can't anything be done to speed up the retraces? | 21:20 |
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| yofel | Tetsuo55: I think you'll have to ask pitti that | 21:33 |
| Tetsuo55 | he comes onlin ehere? | 21:38 |
| Tetsuo55 | the retraces are almost always to late for my bug reports, resulting in a close because the retracer got updated | 21:38 |
| yofel | Tetsuo55: nope, he's in #ubuntu-devel | 21:46 |
| yofel | and yeah, that does happen rather frequently :/ | 21:46 |
| Tetsuo55 | ok thanks | 21:49 |
| ali1234 | does installing the debug symbols packages from ddebs make valgrind traces more useful? (ie less '???' in them?) | 22:47 |
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| hggdh | ali1234: yes indeed. Actually, not more powerful, but _useful_. Without the symbols, valgrind's output is worthless | 23:35 |
| ali1234 | i never said powerful :) | 23:36 |
| ali1234 | actually you just reminded me to kill the leaky program before it totally overwhelms my system | 23:36 |
| hggdh | ali1234: I beg your pardon. 'powerful' came from my deranged imagination ;-) | 23:36 |
| ali1234 | totally forgot about it | 23:36 |
| ali1234 | leaking 2GB in 20 minutes is bad right? | 23:36 |
| hggdh | er. bad is a delicate way of saying it sucks to high heaven | 23:37 |
| hggdh | it is BAD | 23:37 |
| ali1234 | this morning i had 7GB of swap in use, plus all of phys mem | 23:38 |
| hggdh | heh. Who is the culprit, and what version of Ubuntu? | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | probably would have been more if page faults didn't cause a 1.3 second iowait | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | the culprit is gvfsd/gnome-system-monitor/libdbus and the version of ubuntu is at least lucid, maverick and natty | 23:40 |
| ali1234 | i can reproduce on a clean install on any of those, haven't tried others | 23:41 |
| ali1234 | as usual it's the intersection of two or more bugs that's causing it | 23:41 |
| ali1234 | gvfsd has a small leak that's made much worse because gnome-system-monitor hammers it constantly with requests sometimes | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | i haven't figured out yet what "sometimes" means | 23:42 |
| hggdh | yeah, sounds like it, and --right now, without any firm position-- I would say g-s-m plays a part | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | g-s-m also likes to exceed the limit on active dbus watches | 23:43 |
| hggdh | cuz I do not have this problem (and I am not running /have not run) g-s-m so far since I installed this natty | 23:43 |
| hggdh | and which programme you see eating up memory? | 23:43 |
| ali1234 | gvfsd | 23:43 |
| hggdh | ugh! | 23:43 |
| ali1234 | hang on, let me get the bug number :) | 23:43 |
| ali1234 | bug 751523 | 23:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 751523 in gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) "gnome-system-monitor spams dbus with requests for volume information (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751523 | 23:44 |
| ali1234 | if you follow the 3 steps you'll see ever increasing mem use by gvfsd on any ubuntu system | 23:44 |
| ali1234 | on a clean install it's like 1mb every minute | 23:45 |
| ali1234 | on my main workstation it's more like 1mb per second | 23:45 |
| ali1234 | but it happens everywhere to some extent | 23:45 |
| ali1234 | hmm still missing some debug symbols | 23:48 |
| ali1234 | um... where are the symbols for libdbus-1 and libglib-2? | 23:49 |
| hggdh | IDK, let me try to find out | 23:50 |
| ali1234 | this is what i got so far: http://pastebin.com/W3BbvKf8 | 23:51 |
| hggdh | for libglib2.0-- you can install libglib2.0-0.dbg | 23:52 |
| ali1234 | ah is that in the main repos? | 23:52 |
| hggdh | it will carry all needed debug symbols for all packages derived from the source libglib2.0 | 23:52 |
| hggdh | yes | 23:52 |
| ali1234 | bet dbus is same :) | 23:53 |
| hggdh | but not all packages have a .dbg (or even .dbgsym) | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | hmm... can't find anything for libdbus | 23:53 |
| hggdh | it's in dbus-1.dbg | 23:54 |
| ali1234 | ah cheers | 23:54 |
| hggdh | ali1234: the valgrind excerpt you showed me is for which of them? This one really has a problem... | 23:55 |
| ali1234 | gvfsd | 23:56 |
| ali1234 | that's the only one that actually spirals out of control re memory use | 23:56 |
| ali1234 | g-s-m just fills .xsession-errors with crap | 23:56 |
| ali1234 | and only after it exceeds the limit, which takes a few hours | 23:56 |
| hggdh | I think 1 second is too short a period. *BUT* still, this should not happen | 23:58 |
| ali1234 | it's just to make the problem happen quicker :) | 23:58 |
| hggdh | (this is also called 'testing for boundary conditions') | 23:58 |
| ali1234 | on my workstation where i first noticed the bug this morning it's all on defaults | 23:59 |
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